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Byrd's death triggers special election...but when?



Sen. Robert Byrd's death will trigger a special election. But, when? AP Photo.

The death of West Virginia Sen. Robert Byrd (D) will trigger a fierce battle to replace him, although the timing of that race remains an open question.

West Virginia law states that if there is a Senate vacancy more than 2 1/2 years before the incumbent's term ends, a special election would be called for this November. That 2 1/2-year mark is July 3 -- four days from now.

But, as the Post's Paul Kane notes, the language of the law is unclear as it sets up a schedule that would begin the special election process after the "primary next." That means, according to Democrats, in the spring of 2012. Such a schedule would place the special election in November 2012, when Byrd's ninth term would have ended anyway.

The decision of how to read the law will almost certainly come down to Gov. Joe Manchin, a Democrat and the person seen as the most likely long-term successor to Byrd in the Senate.

And, either way, Manchin will be required to appoint someone to serve out Byrd's term -- whether it is determined that the term ends this fall or in the fall of 2012.

Manchin ruled out appointing himself this morning although he remains the Democratic frontrunner if and when the special election is called, which, of course, he is in charge of.

Among the names being mentioned for that caretaker appointment are former state Democratic Party Chairman Nick Casey and state Senate President Earl Ray Tomblin.

In an e-mail, Casey said he was being considered for a federal judgeship and was "not comfortable" commenting on the possibility of being appointed to the Senate seat.

Republicans would almost certainly like to see the special election occur this year, a good one nationally for their party. And, Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, who was recruited to challenge Byrd in 2006 but ultimately decided against it, would be at the top of the GOP list and would likely be the best candidate the party could field.

Capito has held the central West Virginia seat since 2000, when she won an open seat with 48 percent. The district has moved more toward Republicans in recent years as Sen. John McCain carried it with 55 percent in 2008. Capito has been reelected easily in recent years.

While Republicans have a candidate in waiting, so do Democrats in Manchin. First elected in 2004, Manchin won a second term in 2008 a whopping 70 percent of the vote.

Since that time, he has worked to raise his national profile -- starting a federal leadership political action committee and, just this past weekend, headlining the Virginia Democratic Party's Jefferson-Jackson Dinner.

A shortened special this fall would allow Manchin to take advantage of his name identification and popularity in the state. But, Manchin has no federal money in the bank and would have to raise cash in a hurry. Capito had $529,000 on hand as of April 21.

"If it's a 2010 special, I don't see Manchin leaving his position to run for that Senate seat," said West Virginia radio host and political analyst Hoppy Kercheval. "Manchin has given every indication that he would serve out his term."

If Manchin chooses against running in 2010 or, more likely, 2012, which seems unlikely, then both Rep. Nick Rahall and former Byrd aide Anne Barth are mentioned. Rahall has held the 3rd district since 1976 while Barth lost a 2008 race to Capito, 57 percent to 43 percent.

With Aaron Blake and Felicia Sonmez

By Chris Cillizza  |  June 28, 2010; 11:04 AM ET
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Posted by: kaixindian | June 29, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Drindl wrote,
"check out his 12:37 post -- don't read it, it will be mindrot -- I'm sure it's the usual swill. Insight? Don't kid yourself. But look how long it is, how much time he hwas to waste, every single day. sad and sick."

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Talk about irony. You are 100% right Drindl; its swill and mindrot from a sad, sick individual. What you failed to notice is that 99% of that post consisted of Noacoler's rants. LOL. What a case.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"Rest in peace Senator Byrd, thank you for your decades of service and for the deplorably rare example you set by having the courage to admit your past errors and repudiate the racism of your youth."

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The usual Noacoler hogwash. Robert Byrd was 47 years old when he helped orchestrate a filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Racism of his youth? LOL.

Like George Wallace, Al Gore Sr., and so many others, Byrd only saw the error of his ways when his political fortunes depended on capturing the black vote. Praise him for all the wonderful things he did for West Virginia if you like, but let's not pretend this guy was anything but an unrepent racist who sacrificed his Klan membership on the altar of political expendiency. He got into trouble just a few years ago for uttering the "N" word in public. To claim that he was reformed only makes one look ignorant and gullible.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

12Bar


Organizing a group of people to restrict the Freedom of Speech a poster is NO DIFFERENT from organizing a mob to stop blacks from voting.


It is a civil rights violation.

Are there any other parts of the Bill of Rights you would like to trample ???


.

Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

12Bar


Are you applying all those rules equally - or are you reserving your complaints only to Conservatives ???


and your rules are so vague, they are impossible to know what is in bounds and what is out.

Add to that the multitude of liberals who are violating the rules on a daily basis - and no one knows what the rules are.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I sent my email to wpni-comments@washingtonpost.com

detailing the moniker, thread, posts. And a statement that 37th was banned last week by C Cillizza for abusive behavour according to the rules of the blog.

37th not only continues the abuse, now he openly tells Chris Cillizza that he has no right to have these blog rules.

37th is saying he has a RIGHT to be on this blog regardless of the rules and regardless what the owner says.

Now, that is POWER.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"be attentive for the all my re-registrations that are sure to follow."

Thanks for declaring your intent to violate site rules. Good to have that on record.

Posted by: mattintx | June 28, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The moderators can be reached at wpni-comments@washingtonpost.com.

You should give them the thread link and the post time as well as the moniker of the offender. The trolls will of course send mail of their own but won't be able to back their assertions with actual posts and offenses.

Don't bother with the "Report Abuse," it just goes to /dev/null

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 3:12 PM
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Repost this every so often as it will be the top question of the day.


Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Moderators, a number of us are trying to have a discussion here but the comments are being spammed by the newest incarnation of 37thand0street and the hydra-headed king_of_zouk. Please ban these nuisances and delete all their posts, and be attentive for the re-registrations that are sure to follow.

@drindl: again, it's wpni-comments@washingtonpost.com

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm right and you know it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No need to post all that other, utter refuse Ped. we are all painfully aware that every idea in your tiny head boils down to this single imperative.

the rest is similar to the amusement in watching a cat chase its tail. although, at some point the cat tires and quits, clearly a superior intellect to a liberal.

We will continue to dismantle the socialism wall that 60s kooks built on the left flank, one RIGHT at a time. and I expecially mean those fake rights found in penumbras and loony hearts everywhere.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

@"noa,

What is the email address of the IT blog people? You posted it a few days ago, but I can't find it."

yeah, i'd like that too. you go away for hours and find the 2 dueling morons have been spamming all day, per usual.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman

You should be banned for all your abuses on this board.


Asking that someone be banned is a violation of their civil rights - just as if you organized a mob to stop blacks from voting.

Leichtman - what is your problem ?


Is it because someone called you deceptive?

Well you were being dishonest and deceptive - the manly thing to do is admit it when you are called out. Instead, you have shown weeks of outrage because someone called you out.

That is pathetic.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Let's ask what is the MOST IMPORTANT THING to the bloggers on this board


1) The economic crisis - the biggest recession since the 1930s


2) The Oil Spill - and the income to millions of people in the Gulf region


3) The Immigration crisis - half a million illegal aliens in Arizona alone


4) Obama's failed military strategy in Afghanistan - which Leon Panetta today said was unwinnable.


5) The threat of terrorism in America - with the Times Square bomber, bombs on planes, and the Fort Hood shooting


6) The European debt crisis - threatening the US economy as well


7) The Violence in the Inner Cities


8) The Suppression of the Freedom of Speech of 37.

To hear these bloggers this week Suppression of ALL DISSENT is the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY.


What say you - bloggers who know so much ??


.

Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

37th=Sunlight=Heatwave

How long will this nonsense be allowed CC?

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

you might try taking your own advice noa... you always engage with him when he's 'Brigade."

also, ain't your board.

==

snark ignored.

And no, I don't always engage zouk's brigade moniker, I favor the poor dumb brute with maybe one of two short replies in a week. The "always" is yours.

Quit battling me on this. We're on the same side. What I told you in the post is the straight dope and you know it. Zouk is a bully, judging by the acreage of the chip on his shoulder he's probably between 5'1" and 5'2" tall and has a penis smaller than his thumb. So he comes here and harasses people to get the only satisfaction he can find, but that reqiures our cooperation and you are, for all intents and purposes, the only one giving it to him. You think he recoils from your insults? You think you've caused him any hurt? Get real. By giving the poor sod some attention you've as good as disrobed for him. Quit it.

No, he can't be ignored away, but he'll keep amping up his offensiveness until he finally gets noticed and gets expelled. Work with me on this, would you? And never mind the "it ain't your blog" crap. I'm right and you know it.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

One 'real' right at a time. Now that we have firmly established number two, we may have to circle back to number one it seems:

Free Press & the Left Have Had At Least
Thirty 'Behind Closed Door' 'Sellout'
Meetings with the FCC


While Free Press pitches a (staged?) hissy fit about one with AT&T, Verizon – and Google and Skype Chairman Julius Genachowski and his Federal Communications Commission (FCC) have been for quite some time seeking to drastically increase their regulatory control over the internet.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse


Another day in which the liberals are more concerned about suppression of dissent - rather than the real issues of America.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The moderators can be reached at wpni-comments@washingtonpost.com.

You should give them the thread link and the post time as well as the moniker of the offender. The trolls will of course send mail of their own but won't be able to back their assertions with actual posts and offenses.

Don't bother with the "Report Abuse," it just goes to /dev/null

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Another day. Another handle for Fake 37.

Posted by: JakeD3 | June 28, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Ped making up her own facts as usual:

Advocates of gun control will not be swayed by the Supreme Court’s holding in McDonald. No matter the evidence, the rallying cry will continue: If gun control “saves just one life” it will be worth it. This plea ignores the irony of crusading for individual safety by disarming all of society. That logic can now be squarely turned on the advocates of gun control. If it saves just one life — or many, since jurisdictions with more legally owned (and carried) guns tend to have less violent crime — we should create a sensible legal framework for gun ownership that does not hamper the right of individuals to exercise self-defense.


since jurisdictions with more legally owned (and carried) guns tend to have less violent crime

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


If those are far likelier uses of hand guns - then why doesn't all the States wish to restrict handguns ?


Why is it only the innercities which want to restrict handguns - where all the gangs are running wild ???

We need a strong and visible police presence in the inner cities where the gangs are selling drugs and shooting innocent people - Send in the troops too - National Guard and the regular Army too as need be.

It has to stop - the gang violence has to be addressed - forcefully.

We need a SURGE in our inner cities.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

What is the email address of the IT blog people? You posted it a few days ago, but I can't find it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


You lead in number of comments - all-time

So for you to make such a comment is dishonest and silly.

Someone listed some of your quality jems over this weekend.

You have even accused Chris of being racist in his private communications.


You have broken all the rules - can continue the bad behavior - so how is anyone to know what is acceptable here - when you are around?


.

Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

A pity the "stare decisis" court of John Roberts saw fit to deprive Chicago of the means to get some control over gun violence. Predictably as sunrise we see the trumpeting of outlier cases of home defense, appeal to the swaggering self-reliance of American conceit, and neglecting the reality that accident, suicide, and domestic murder are likelier uses of handguns in the home.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Bumblingberry


At least 28 people were shot in Chicago over this past weekend - 3 dead.


If you have been following this, you might feel a sense of relief - because a few weekends ago 52 people were shot - so 28 people shot represents a reduction in violence.

The liberals on this blog are concerned solely with how this violence makes their failed and bankrupt liberal idealogy look.

NOT ONE liberal on this blog ever stated any feeling or remorse for those who were shot - or their families.

Instead, all we have heard is charges of racism - in reply to only mentioning the violence.

These issues have to be addressed - what has Obama done for inner city violence - ever.


Obama was a State Senator, US Senator - what has he ever done for inner city violence ???


The very people the democrats claim to care about - their issues in the inner cities are not being addressed by the democratic party.

And yet everytime there is an election - the democrats tell us that they care about the inner cities and the Republicans do not -

Yet everytime the democrats take office, nothing serious is done for the inner cities.

We actually need to take a list of the largest US cities - and find out how many people were shot last weekend - it will certainly add up into the hundreds - far more than those shot in Afghanistan.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

The metaposts outnumber the posts several to one. And it looks like the nuisance is back yet again under yet another moniker.

Rest in peace Senator Byrd, thank you for your decades of service and for the deplorably rare example you set by having the courage to admit your past errors and repudiate the racism of your youth. If only some of your surviving Republican colleagues were capable of owning up to the florid excesses of their own mistakes, or, imagine that, repudiating their own contemporary bigotry.

But that isn't who they are.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Bumblingberry


The leftists do not want any honest evaluation of Obama - they want to ignore every criticism of him - hoping that the American people will not notice how horrible Obama's policies have been.


It is truly a sad commentary that the left has created an echo chamber for themselves when they were out of power and now that is all they want - an echo chamber.


The leftists want to silence any opposing views - they will not compromise - they believe the solution is to go further to the left - signaling that they are completely out-of-touch with the American People as well as reality.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Three times in the last month, Chicago residents have defended their homes or businesses with “illegal” guns. In the first, an 80-year-old Navy veteran killed a felon who broke into his home. In the second, a man shot and wounded a fugitive who burst into the man’s home while running from the police. In the third, the owner of a pawn shop killed one of three robbers in self-defense, sending the other two running.

A generation from now, legal and policy discussions will look back and see gun control for the sham that it has always been. The real shame is that it took decades of political action, millions of dollars in litigation, and thousands of lives lost to end the preposterous idea that governments can reduce the number of victims of violent crime by first taking away their means of resistance.

Now can we get on to the 10th amendment please?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Let's ask what is the MOST IMPORTANT THING to the bloggers on this board

1) The economic crisis - the biggest recession since the 1930s

2) The Oil Spill - and the income to millions of people in the Gulf region

3) The Immigration crisis - half a million illegal aliens in Arizona alone

4) Obama's failed military strategy in Afghanistan - which Leon Panetta today said was unwinnable.

5) The threat of terrorism in America - with the Times Square bomber, bombs on planes, and the Fort Hood shooting

6) The European debt crisis - threatening the US economy as well

7) The Suppression of the Freedom of Speech of 37.


To hear these bloggers this week Suppression of ALL DISSENT is the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY.

What say you - bloggers who know so much ??

.

Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I thought the quote was:

"there are 10 kinds of people, those who can count in binary, and those who can't."

In the next election, there will indeed be two kinds of people, those who still want Obungler and his corrupt crew still running things and those who don't.

I suppose there may be a sliver of "none of the above" but they are not really participating, are they?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

bumbling wrote: . I resort to my oroginal conclusion that most liberals are not really that interested in any point of view that does not make them feel good about their warped perspective of the world, a perspective that is ruining this country day by day, and that fact is not escaping the voters, BTW.
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I give you a compliment and you reject it. Ok.

While you are determined to break the world down into two kind of people--your type and the evil liberals, I would remind you of St. Augustine.

He said "there are two kind of people: those who think there are two kinds, and those who don't".

My limited quote of the day. No link, done from memory.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

LOUISVILLE, KY (WAVE) - GE CEO Jim Campbell was rushed to a doctor after he collapsed just before 11:30 a.m. Monday as Vice President Joe Biden was speaking. Campbell, who was seated on a stool at the end of the stage, fell from a stool and off the stage as Biden was nearing the end of his remarks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so it IS possible to be bored almost to death.

As soon as this guy gets better this will be the joke of the week. I mean other than Obimbo's leadership of course.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying I'm more interested in what you think than I am in Victor Davis Hanson's thoughts.

Posted by: 12BarBlues


clearly twisted priorities. He could teach you much more than I ever could. I resort to my oroginal conclusion that most liberals are not really that interested in any point of view that does not make them feel good about their warped perspective of the world, a perspective that is ruining this country day by day, and that fact is not escaping the voters, BTW.

I would venture to say that all but the 20% population that are avowed leftists, the rest of the country is sorely dissappointed in how Obungler squandered his opportunity.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

It's not a very challenging legal situation, actually. This is the actual West Virginia statute:

If the unexpired term of any office be for a longer period than above specified, the appointment shall be until a successor to the office has timely filed a certificate of candidacy, has been nominated at the primary election next following such timely filing and has thereafter been elected and qualified to fill the unexpired term.

The next primary election in West Virginia is in 2012. Regardless of what Republicans might want, there is no provision in state law for holding a special election this year. Barring some interesting interpretation of 'vacancy' by the West Virginia Secretary of State, there should be a special election in 2012 on the same date as the general election in 2012, with the general election determining who holds the seat until the 2018 elections, and the special election determining who holds the seat from November 2012 to January 2013.

Posted by: notreallyhere | June 28, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I don't know where West Virginia Governor Manchin spoke last weekend, but it was not at the Virginia Jefferson Jackson dinner. That event was held last March, and Senator Amy Klobuchar spoke.

Posted by: jeffersonian1 | June 28, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

When U.S. President Barack Obama stepped off his helicopter in Huntsville on Friday, the first thing he said was,

“You’ve got a lot of golf courses here, don’t you?”

Industry Minister Tony Clement told the National Post in an exclusive interview.

“I told him, ‘We would really recommend and love it if you could come back here with Michelle and the kids at some point — we think you’d really love it here,’” Minister Clement said on the sidewalk of Huntsville’s Main Street, in his home riding. “I think I’ve planted a seed in the President’s mind.”

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Anarchists" rage in Canada

It seems that Canadian police, wrapped in body armor and heavily beweaponed, stood by and watched while "anarchists" at the G8 (or G20 or whatever they're calling that place Bammy went to play golf and tell other leaders of the world's semi-capitalist economies to spend money as recklessly as he is) summit in Toronto smashed windows, burned cars, and otherwise behaved like the thugs the police in civilized countries are supposed to protect civilized people from. Apparently because the police were afraid that if someone videoed them interfering, it might end up on YouTube and draw angry comments in ALLCAPS.

I can't help but notice that you never see scenes like these at Tea Party rallies.

I put "Anarchists" in quotes because that's what they're called by media and the progressives who insist "They're not with us." But these "anarchists" are burning and pillaging in the name of higher taxes, more government spending, more regulation. They're not anarchists. They're progressive fascists who are a little impatient that leaders like Obama have their boot on the throat of capitalism but haven't stomped down yet.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

We may never know for sure if Obama is staggeringly incompetent, or if he's skillfully executing a plan to destroy the country on purpose. If the objective of his Deepwater Horizon fumbling is to guarantee maximum damage to set the stage for Tax & Charade or nationalizing the energy sector, or just to advance the overall economic policy of pushing the country toward a depression that would be used to justify still more government expansion, Chairman Zero is nowhere near as dumb as he sounds off-teleprompter.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Things You Don't See at a Tea Party

Although Chrissy "Tingles" Matthews and the rest of the Obama Fanboys desperately wish they were, these are not the scenes of right-wingers protesting for lower deficits and smaller government.

broken windows, burnt cars....

And while the "anarchists" were running amok in the streets, the Toronto Police were apparently busy threatening, punching, and arresting reporters who were trying to cover the G20 disturbances.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

So is it the content or the poster that you find objectionable?

I noticed that drivl posts ONLY regurgitated slop and nothing else yet not a single person ever complains about that. So I must conclude, that like most liberals, you refuse to consider any ideas that do not cleave to the narrow and mindless view of the world that is socialism and worse.

But it is so typical of liberals to go silent when they are running things. Lobbyists, special interests, deficits, war, corruption, all now missing from headlines everywhere since liberals came to town to run things.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

ddawd writes
" some people claim that the governor can wait 10 days before officially declaring the seat vacant.

I can see why Democrats might want to avoid a special election, but if there's any ambiguity, and there seems to be plenty, the preference should be towards a special election."


Based on what the Fix writes, it seems the ball is in the governor's court. Where I live, it would not reflect well on a governor to avoid the 2010 special election in order to clear one's own path to the seat in 2012. However, based on the small sample of West Virginians I met last week, perhaps it wouldn't make a difference to voters there.

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 28, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Do these conservatrolls really think that misspelling the handle will make drindl go away?

Posted by: mattintx | June 28, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Take a gander at the "insighful" commentary over the weekend. Then get back to me.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:06 PM
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Since I was here over the weekend, I'll get back to you. I enjoyed the calm tone of the commentary. I learned some things, for example, and there was opportunity for posters to straighten out some misunderstandings. BWJ has been posting some thoughts about Nikki Haley, and until this weekend, I had misunderstood some of his points.

Speaking for myself, I don't enjoy the anger and combativeness.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

@bumbling,

so who gets to decide?
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No one. You can post the copies if you like. I was just giving you my opinion.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't think people come to the Fix to read lengthy posts from loony out-of-their-mind leftists about how wonderful Obungler is, although even drivl and the Ped can't come up with anything anymore. so instead it is a wall of insult 24/7. there is simply nothing left in the loon quiver.


so who gets to decide?

Ped has been banned multiple times with no effect. banning was invented for her. the blog took a decided turn down when she arrived.

so who is to blame?

Take a gander at the "insighful" commentary over the weekend. Then get back to me.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

It's not that hard to just copy and paste the damn link. That's even better than citing the source.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

about writing your own thoughts

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Aimed at drivl.
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No, it was written to you because you had chummed about 5 posts from other authors.

I think everyone, including you, me and drindl, should be careful when copying the writing of others. Maybe a phrase or two is ok, and certainly crediting the original author is just good manners.

I don't think people come to the Fix to read lengthy posts from other sources. If people don't read the lengthy copies, what is the point in doing it?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

translation

drivl found some change in the couch cushions again. slushy for lunch today.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Tortured tense correction:

HAS the paid cabal of liberal posters secretly met to develop today's strategy?

[note to scriver: don't read the above]

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

check out his 12:37 post -- don't read it, it will be mindrot -- I'm sure it's the usual swill. Insight? Don't kid yourself. But look how long it is, how much time he hwas to waste, every single day. sad and sick.

Now, I'm off to play outside. Bore yourself with his brainless spamming all day, if you wish.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

about writing your own thoughts

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Aimed at drivl.

Laugh of the day on two levels. first the notion of "thoughts" from the queen moonbat who gets every fleeting idea in her puny head from hate websites.

this obviously shows the other giggle of "her own".

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Enough seriousness...

How about some fun?

Have the paid cabal of liberal posters secretly met to develop today's strategy?

[note to scriver: don't read the above]

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

actually not in his [nut] case.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 12:29 PM
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Oh, I don't know about that. There is something about writing your own thoughts, that over time refines your ideas and brings insight. And that happens even if no one reads it. When people read and respond to your own writing, you learn about simplifying and clarifying.

Also, writing your own stuff slows you down, which is almost always a good idea.

I never respond to the chumming. What's the point? The real author isn't present.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Some examples of The Ped ignoring others:

(this is the kind of swill drivl and Ped wish for the blog year round)

Some Noacoler nuggets:

Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh. (june 25)
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I guess zouk the the other uh conservatives think he (Obama) should be the caddy, right? Thought so. (june 25)
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@BWJ: anyone NOT think that CC's private communications refer to "ni66ers" and "sp|cs?" (june 25)
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Yeah how low would his approval have to be before any of those nutbags and snoozelords could have a shot? (june 25)
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@BWJ, do you really think that bigotry against dark-skinned people would carry as much career peril as dissing Matt Drudge? I do t think so.
Surely the post has to know the slant here and approve it, surely the coddling of racists and homophobes in this blog can't have gone unnoticed, not this long. My guess is that it's known and sanctioned.
(june 25)
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well there goes the neighborhood, now comes a firehose of sewage from brigade-zouk (june 25)
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Way to bat your eyes, brigade, and pretend to miss the point. But then that's all you have, the turnaround shtick. You and half the sixth graders who see shrinks in the country,. . .
EVERY Muslim convert takes a Muslim name, it'd be strange if Clay hadn't. Grow one, would you? (june 25)
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matter of fact I think libertarians should be gassed (june 25)
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Suit yourself, BB, I have solid justifications if I choose to be angry .. as it turns out you're misreading derision as anger. (june 25)
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You lie like aveug. The only poster here who didn't date he wanted 37th gone was you. Birds of a feather. (june 26)
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Thanks Brigade but you've enough lies in the archives already, you didn't really need to corroborate my post with a fresh batch. (june 26)
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Go away, don't come back, go bother someone else. (june 26)
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I've gone to bed with Indian men, which I wouldn't do with a people I'm prejudiced against. Anyway. (june 26)
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What does he (CC) have to do before you notice, call Obama by the N-word? Not a big jump to believe he does, in private. (june 26)
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Armpeg, you are a fool. (june 27)
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I might regard him as the long-sought Conservative Contributor were I still willing to go on believing in that Grail quest, which I'm not. And Mike cheesed me off right away with the "social conservative" stuff. Sorry, I'm gay, and social conservative is a six-syllable pseudonym for bigot. (june 27)
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The regular posters seeking to make this an unpleasant place are zouk, brigade, and you, 37th aka sunstroke. (june 27)
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There's more, but you get the idea. No one contributes more raw sewage to this blog than Noacoler, and he has the audacity to call for the banning of someone else. Not one postive or interesting or relevant post in the lot.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

breaking...

some exciting political news -- I will scoop CC on it!

(CNN) - Mitt Romney endorsed three fellow Republicans Monday, bringing to 100 the number of candidates the former Massachusetts governor and 2008 GOP presidential candidate has backed so far this election cycle.'

and every one of the mentioned here.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

@zouk et al

Since you must be a fisherman, you'll know what I mean. Chumming the waters isn't that interesting. If you wrote your own ideas it would be a lot more interesting.'


actually not in his [nut] case.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Liberal solution to almost every problem - simply rename it:

While the oil is moving ever closer to the beaches and wetlands, the Obama Administration has decided to fix MMS by renaming it. Not once, but twice. Within a week.

The new name of the Agency is - or was: the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation, and Enforcement (BOE).

This, from an official Department of the Interior press release: A Secretarial Order that [Ken] Salazar has signed renames the Minerals Management Service the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement ("Bureau of Ocean Energy" or "BOE")

Note the "BOE" business. It seems that the old MMS would be the new BOE, a couple of million of our tax dollars in letterhead, and signage and all would be well.

Except all was not well. At about the same time a robotic submarine was knocking the collection cap off the top of the well, someone at "BOE" got the word that MMS would NOT be known as "BOE" but would, instead be known by the full acronym for its new name the "Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement" or BOEMRE.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, these are the people whom Barack Obama has chosen to replace the first group of morons he had appointed to run the off-shore drilling program.

I am told that there are BOEMRE employees who have done nothing since the change from "BOE" but try and figure out how to pronounce it.

BOOM-ray has gathered some fans, if only because it has something of a creole flair. Others have cut to the chase and begun referring to the organization they work for as "Bummer."

Why the screeching halt to "BOE?" Maybe the folks at the Department of Energy (DOE) were afraid there would be confusion amongst the multitudes as to who to blame for the lack of any leadership in the Gulf of Mexico.

Maybe it's because people like me would suggest it stands for "Barack Obama's Error."

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

@zouk et al

Since you must be a fisherman, you'll know what I mean. Chumming the waters isn't that interesting. If you wrote your own ideas it would be a lot more interesting.

Chumming is a fast way to get a lot of blood in the water to attract the sharks, but it's hardly finesse.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

more braindead tea bagger cr*pola...

'The Tea Party-backed candidate for the Republican nomination in the Dem-held AL-02 district is up with a new ad in which he declares that the modern system of taxation and social safety nets is a form of "slavery" -- and he is using an Abraham Lincoln impersonator to back him up.

Rick Barber's new ad follows up from his previous spot, in which Barber promised to seek President Obama's impeachment, and a George Washington impersonator told viewers to "gather your armies" against the tyranny of the Obama administration.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I find it rather goulish that Sen Byrd has
been deceased less than 12 hours and rather
than praising his 50 years of service to
his country conservatives are busy DEMANDING
how West Virginia replaces him in the Senate.
Can't even wait for his body to get cold;what
great patriots you guys are.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

If Post editors really thought Weigel was a conservative, then their cluelessness is truly remarkable. Amusingly so: When Politico's Ben Smith reported that Weigel says he is a registered Republican but "has voted for the Democrat in every presidential election," the conservative blogger Erick Erickson inferred that Weigel had voted for Gore, Kerry, and Obama. Weigel sent Erickson a quick correction. He had actually voted for Nader, Kerry, and Obama. And that was the Post's "conservative" blogger.

But even if the Post really believed Weigel was a conservative, there is still the question of why they hired a (presumed) conservative to cover the conservative movement. Why not have some of the many liberals already on staff cover that and hire a conservative to cover liberals? Or maybe -- gasp -- hire two conservatives to cover liberals. After all, there are a lot of liberals in powerful positions these days. If the Post is going to practice opinion journalism, having the perspective of a couple of conservative journalists couldn't hurt, could it?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

No, the language doesn't provide an excuse to hide behind, claiming the primary period had already passed. It requires a special primary to be held, and a new senator from W VA to be elected this November. It's common knowledge that the W VA dems are trying to wiggle out of this, but they'll have the mother of all lawsuits brought against them, if they try that. The people of W VA are hopping angry about this attempt at corruption.

Posted by: jenn3 | June 28, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

you might try taking your own advice noa... you always engage with him when he's 'Brigade."

also, ain't your board.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

On the Afghan war, the oil spill, immigration, global warming, and more, Obama seems a captive of events and other, more forceful individuals, like Gen. David Petraeus. Unwilling to act boldly, Obama looks for Goldilocks solutions that split the difference between diametrically opposed ideas. The result is lukewarm mush.

Obama may have surfed on the wave of history to get elected, but Obama now seems swamped by events.

Obama's second drop in public estimation has come from the understanding that not only is he an ordinary politician, but also not a very good one.

Chris Stirewalt

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of guns...

True story: where I grew up, each fall people would go hunting from the highway. Yes, they would ride up and down the highway, and when they saw something interesting, they'd slow down and blast away from all four windows. Every year a few fellow motorists got mowed by accident, especially on the ranch frontage roads.

We used to say "if you could make it through hunting season in one piece, the rest of the year is a breeze".

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

poor lonely no-life zouk. 11 am, time to change his moonbat identity, while still posting the exact same idiot obssesion with me.

i guess he doesn't realize how easily everyone can see through him, and what a laughingstock he is.


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See, dirndl, that's just it, we do see through him, and if we didn't know with certainty that he's an unemployed isolated loser living in a fantasy world of success and models and yachts, we certainly know it since model mania.  And we know that he's a bully who comes here to get attention from strangers as the only human contact he has.  Yes, dirndl, we do know this, which is why we all ignore him.

Except you.  Except your dutiful and daily responses to a hate-crazed mental case the rest of us regard as unworthy of our time or attention.  And since you allow him to bully you, he goes on doing it, keeps coming back here to do it, when in the absence of such attention he would work his way up to a meltdown that even fellow Obama-hater Cillizza couldn't ignore, just like Jake.

So why don't you just quit responding to him.  Let him dash himself impotently against the immovable wall of your disdain until he cracks and the moderators see fit to block him as they are finally doing with 37th.  When he goes over the top just forward his threats to the the FBI and to the moderators at wpni-comments@washingtonpost.com and let them deal with him.  

Want to get zouk's goat?  Ignore him.  He thrives on insults like a hypochondriac thrives on anal thermometers and tongue depressors.  Please get this clue once and for all.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Are you a CEO? Obama thinks he can fire you — and he will.

Are you a car dealer? He will take away your franchise and all the investments you’ve made in it.

Did you put your money into a safe investment like senior corporate bonds? Sorry, but the president has decided that you and all other senior creditors of Chrysler are expendable in bankruptcy, because he wants to help the UAW stave off the extinction it has earned through greed and irrelevance. (Oh, and to add insult to injury, the bailed-out Chrysler will use the leftover money to hire Obama fundraisers as lobbyists so that they can raise and contribute even more in 2012.)

Are you a small businessman? Obama will rig the rules to force you into binding arbitration with a labor union.

Are you an employee trying to save for retirement? Obama wants to make it easier for a union to seize your shop, make your employer cut off your 401(k), and turn you into cannon fodder for some currently under-funded union pension plan from which you will someday collect pennies for every dollar you are owed.

Are you an energy company that signed leasing contracts with the U.S. government in good faith, then drilled responsibly and safely offshore for years with a perfect safety record? He’ll give your business the death penalty; and all because BP, a major Obama donor and strong supporter of his climate initiatives, for whom the brother of his top advisor lobbies, was apparently careless and caused a disaster.

Are you a dentist (or an oral surgeon)? Obama has an opinion on whether you should take that kid’s tonsils out, and you’d better listen if you want to be paid for your work.

Are you a doctor? Obama will tell you what kind of pill to prescribe, because you are either too greedy or too incompetent to choose the right one. Oh, and he’s setting up yet another federal panel to tell you whether you should be recommending mammograms and to women of what age.

Are you a living, breathing human being residing within the United States of America? Obama says you have to purchase government-approved health insurance (sorry, your current plan probably doesn’t qualify), and your only ways out are to commit suicide, move abroad, or become a Christian Scientist.

-Freddoso

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

This president, who has been hopelessly sluggish and excessively deferential to BP in performing his actual, legitimate duty of keeping federal waters clean, has no legitimate legal role in arranging the settlement of third parties’ restitution claims by arbitration. But he’s done such a poor job at the former, and he apparently feels he can make up for it with the latter. At best, Obama is a showman, merely taking credit for something BP was going to do anyway. At worst, he is using the power of the United States government’s executive branch to interfere in a restitution process for which the rule of law prescribes other remedies — courts of law, fines, penalties, deprivation of future leases, and settlement agreements arbitrated under terms worked out with the victims themselves, not with the President of the United States.

Our presidency has a limited role which has grown disturbingly beyond its constitutional scope in recent decades. It’s painful to watch this president’s cheerleaders go shamelessly silent about Obama’s role in trampling the rule of law and furthering this dangerous trend, especially after hearing them complain for eight years, at times correctly, about his predecessor’s role in the same.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

since no-life zouk/bumblingberry will be spamming this blog for the rest of the day, I urge anyone left on here to look elsewhere for signs of intelligent life.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

SCOTUS Just Barely Affirms Right to Bear Arms

Today's ruling means that the four liberal justices of the Supreme Court don't believe the 2nd Amendment really means it when it says "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

You have to shake your head and marvel. Liberal judges can make up "penumbras" and "emanation" when they want to find a "right" --- like privacy or abortion --- that is nowhere to be found in the language of the Constitution. And then they can turn around and just ignore or invalidate language in the Constitution that could not be more plain.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Either you are in the raptured-up group, in which case you can't take your gun with you.
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I guarantee that no guns are allowed in heaven. Our heavenly father believes in gun control.

Maybe the right to carry crowd ought to rethink this gun, brick, rapture meme.

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse


tsk. Gynophobe, doncha know.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 28, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

A father of three who got out of his car after a minor car crash not far from his home in the Heart of Chicago neighborhood was shot and killed early Saturday, becoming one of at least 26 people shot over the weekend, police said.As of early Sunday evening, three shootings were fatal.One weekend earlier, more than 50 people were shot and at least eight died.Ray Ressler, 26, and a friend got out of their car in the 2100 block of South Wood Street at about 4 a.m. Saturday following the crash.

Here is the ultra violence that the Liberals are warning you about. Notice it is located in the place that likes to ban handguns. and where do we find the most lawless shooters? Right in downtown liberal land.

when The fix gets done banning all the people they don't like, it will be the same here. free speech, not anything of value available.

already over the eeekend, we can observe the new liberal intelligence. Ream oafter Ream of The Ped declaring his superiority to no one in particular and his animosity to everyone, bragging about sordid affairs, carpet insulting and general idiocy. Drivl is sick about missing all the fun. Imagine a hate fest with no drivl.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

"We're definitely in the end times," Hammond continued. "The rapture, in my opinion, has to be sometime this fall."
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Fall is only a few months away. So, why invest in the guns? To say nothing of the impossible-to-get ammo.

Either you are in the raptured-up group, in which case you can't take your gun with you.

Or, you are in the left-behind group, well... that's it. They are planning to be left behind. So much for being one of the righteous.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

here's your tea party of today:

Nice quotes from the gun rally in alexandria:

"Let me hang out my shingle," Mike Vanderboegh shouted to the 75 armed men and women at Fort Hunt Park in Alexandria on Monday morning. Vanderboegh, leader of the "Three Percent" movement, a gun-owners' rights group, slammed down a brick on the stage bearing the Roman numeral III.

This was a reference to his call for his followers to "break the windows of hundreds, thousands of Democrat Party headquarters" after health-care legislation passed. Some of them did as they were told.

"I was trying to get the attention of people who are pushing this country toward civil war, that they should stop before somebody gets hurt," Vanderboegh said of his brick-throwing campaign."

The armed citizenry cheered. "This is what the other side doesn't understand!" Vanderboegh shouted. "We are done backing up! Done! Not one more inch!"

The demonstrators brought their guns to Virginia from New Mexico, New Hampshire, Florida and elsewhere. Among the group was Tim Hammond, who carried two pistols, a rifle and plenty of ammunition as part of an all-black outfit that included a black tricorn hat. Hammond, who said he flew in from California, told another demonstrator he believes that President Obama is the antichrist.

"We're definitely in the end times," Hammond continued. "The rapture, in my opinion, has to be sometime this fall."

'He recounted for the crowd his successful calls for bricks to be thrown into Democrats' offices. "I hope to make them understand that the situation was coming to a fundamental break when people innocent and guilty alike were going to begin dying for their own stupid failure to comprehend the real situation that we are all in," he warned.

He then led the crowd in chanting what he called a Southern "battle cry" of "Oh hell no!" Explained the Alabaman: "When you hear it, where I come from, you know that somebody's going to get beat, stabbed or shot, and the guy that takes the beating, the knife blade, or the bullet undoubtedly deserves it."

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Although Barack Hussein Obama may not have pulled the trigger on the BP Gulf oil rig explosion, his abrogation of sand berms and virtually all other means to minimize the damage from the toxins and protect this US coastal region places him the position of destroyer-in-chief. Through his actions involving apparent criminal mischief leading to the destruction of entire ecosystems and their attendant wildlife—including but, not limited to human life and livelihoods—Obama has placed himself firmly in the position of the most destructive and vicious leader of the USA that America has ever witnessed.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

poor lonely no-life zouk. 11 am, time to change his moonbat identity, while still posting the exact same idiot obssesion with me.

i guess he doesn't realize how easily everyone can see through him, and what a laughingstock he is.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

As a proud West Virginian, I can say that I'm NOT proud of how Manchin "lead the state" through the mining disaster a couple months ago. In fact, it is Manchin who is responsible for their deaths. It was the 2nd disaster during his time as governor, and in order to be in power you must kneel to the altar of King Coal. Manchin is owned by the Coal companies and would be a horrible Senator for my state. He has waited for this moment and will NOT allow a special election and will be pressured by Obama/Pelosi to NOT call for one. They know the Rebublican candidate (Shelley Moore Capito, most likely) would win, especially since the state is leaning more and more Republican of late. Instead, Manchin will name a replacement to fill out the term, and then he will run for the seat in 2012.

As for Senator Byrd, his past is certainly something no one should be proud of. There is no place in this world for hatred and racism. What he did do was look out for his state and give a very impoverished state funds and projects to help its citizens. He too was owned by King Coal, but he at least provided for other jobs in the state when those coal mines shut down. Even though I am a conservative, I am proud that Byrd was the ONLY Senator to have voted AGAINST the war in Iraq, unlike Dems like Kerry and Clinton who "voted for the war before they voted against it."

Posted by: aldena1 | June 28, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree, Mr. Cilizza. Advocating the assination of Democratic politicians IS grounds for you to inform the FBI of this poster's IP... most assasins today DO generally post this sort of thing on blogs before they kill, and the FBI is looking for this kind of info.

"This is advocacy of assassination. Moderators, pease forward the IP and registration of this poster to the FBI."

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Drindl, if Byrd had passed away a month ago, the cost would still be the same, but there would definitely be an election. The law is about the practicality of having an election for a truncated term. The lawmakers delineated 30 months as a reasonable distance from the end of the term to warrant a special election. Yeah, its arbitrary, but that's the law. It's pretty clear that having the election is consistent with the spirit of the law. The state should finance it the same way they would have financed it if Byrd's death were a month ago.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

there is also a significant cost to holding a special election, dawd. since there is ambiguity, perhaps a referendum could be held to inform voters of the cost to taxpayers, and let them decide if they want to pay for it.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Handguns for all !!

Now we will be prepared when the liberal criminals come calling. The politicians and the criminals. But I repeat myself.

==

This is advocacy of assassination. Moderators, pease forward the IP and registration of this poster to the FBI.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Handguns for all !!

Now we will be prepared when the liberal criminals come calling. The politicians and the criminals. But I repeat myself.

==

This is advocacy of assassination. Moderators, pease forward the IP and registration of this poster to the FBI.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Handguns for all !!

Now we will be prepared when the liberal criminals come calling. The politicians and the criminals. But I repeat myself.

==

This is advocacy of assassination. Moderators, pease forward the IP and registration of this poster to the FBI.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

bsimon, the state law puts the cusp of determining whether there's a special election on 30 months before the end of the term. If the vacancy is more than 30 months to the end of the term, then hold an election, if its less than 30 months, then the appointee hold the seat until the end of the term. Byrd's death occurred like a week before the 30 day term. Although some people claim that the governor can wait 10 days before officially declaring the seat vacant.

I can see why Democrats might want to avoid a special election, but if there's any ambiguity, and there seems to be plenty, the preference should be towards a special election.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Chris Cilizza -- Advocating murder is not political speech, it is inciting violence. Why do you allow this stench of rightwing hate on your blog?

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

"A planned "unity" convention for tea partiers is being pushed to the fall, with organizers scrapping a major gathering with just 19 days before it was scheduled to go off. They cited heat and not being professional event planners, but the abrupt change in plans without a new date firmed up doesn't bode well for the fledgling group."

If you can't stand the heat... stay out of politics. Looks like these folks are falling apart before they ever got togeter. Awww, too bad.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

There must be a special election in 2010!!!

We'll fight it all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to!!!

Posted by: Gatecrasher | June 28, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

mwhoke said: "It is time for the politicians to allow the voters to select who represents them . . ."

Actually, it is time to respect the rule of law, not ignore it because of your personal opinion. If that means special election this fall, so be it. If that means appointment until 2012, so be it. If you don't like the law, you can take steps to change it. But you can't be allowed to ignore it on a whim!

Posted by: tomguy1 | June 28, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Nanny (State) Pelosi has seen it before.

She knows the type.

Old, white, racist, violent.

Yes, the communists, radicals, and anarchists of the Left at the G20.

Violent, dangerous Dbaggers.

Posted by: leapin | June 28, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

In Illinois the politicians ignored the voters and appointed Roland Burris.

This is a great example of why the voters should make the selection and not a career politician!

Posted by: mwhoke | June 28, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"a Manchin adviser tells First Read that he doubts there will be a special election in November."


Which is pretty stupid. There's a vacancy & there's an upcoming election, with plenty of time to hold a primary in the interim. NOT filling the seat by special election in Nov would be ridiculous. (Yes, appoint a seat-warmer in the interim)

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 28, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

'WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Consumer spending rose more than expected in May even as savings touched their highest level in eight months, a government report showed on Monday.'

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

"Update: Politico notes "the law is silent on when, exactly, a vacancy occurs -- at the time of death, when the Senate informs the state or when the governor declares it? -- and the law for calling a special election is written in a way that suggests that it couldn't be held until the date of the next regularly scheduled election in 2012."

In addition, a Manchin adviser tells First Read that he doubts there will be a special election in November."

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Let's see the Democrats re-write legislation over a November election and "deem" that he didn't die when he died and that the regulations don't say what they say.

November 2010.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | June 28, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Manchin did an outstanding job of leading the stae and its people through the tragic mining disaster last year. Can he , in fact , appoint himself? Or does he have to resign and be appointed by the "new " governor? would he prefer to stay in WVA during the post census reapportionment?

Posted by: jmsbh | June 28, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

One of the many harsh realities of politics is that when a storied senator's heart stops beating, we almost immediately look toward his or her replacement. That's just the way it is, to quote Bruce Hornsby.

Now, I'm not implying that there's any heartlessness here on the part of The Fix, because it's politics that brings us to this blog. In fact, I will be interested to read the accounts of what other politicians say about Sen. Byrd.

Posted by: dognabbit | June 28, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

It is time for the politicians to allow the voters to select who represents them and not one individual.

Therefore let the voters decide!

Posted by: mwhoke | June 28, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

I suspect the governor will wait for the "special election" until 2012.

He probably won't appoint Byrd's successor until after July 4th.

Posted by: maritza1 | June 28, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

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