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Can Harold Ford win?

With former Rep. Harold Ford Jr. moving aggressively toward a bid for the Democratic Senate nomination in New York, a central question arises: Can he win?

The reasons why the race is something of a fool's errand are easily ticked off: Ford's only experience in elected office is in the conservative-minded Tennessee, appointed Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand would start the contest with a wide fundraising edge, Ford's stance on abortion rights is anathema to many primary voters and the Democratic establishment has made very clear that they will stand behind Gillibrand.

The White House went out of its way to dissuade Ford on Monday. "The White House is quite happy with the leadership and the representation of Senator Gillibrand in New York, and as many are in the DSCC, we're supporting her reelection," said press secretary Robert Gibbs.

The case for how Ford can win is tougher to make but, here at the Fix, we like to take on the tough challenges. Below you'll find four ways that Ford could make a race of it although, to be crystal clear, we continue to think that this is a very difficult lift for the former Tennessee Congressman, and his interest is more aimed at positioning himself for a statewide opening in the future than winning this contest.

* The City: New York City is the dominant force in a Democratic primary in the Empire State with roughly 50-55 percent of the vote coming out of the Big Apple and up to 70 percent coming out of the area reached by the city's media market in past contested intraparty fights. Gillibrand, who represented the Albany-area 20th district for two terms before being appointed to the Senate by Gov. David Paterson (D) in 2009, is a virtual unknown to voters in New York City. And, some of her issue positions -- particularly on guns -- are non-starters to the strongly liberal constituency in the city. (Of course, Ford's positioning on guns is not much different from stances Gillibrand took in the House; "The only vulnerability Gillibrand has is the gun issue and Ford has exactly the same position," said Democratic media consultant Steve Murphy. "What's his argument?") The sense that Gillibrand doesn't share the world view of the residents of the city was the main reason that Rep. Carolyn Maloney seriously considering challenging the appointed Senator before backing out -- daunted by Gillibrand's financial prowess and her aggressiveness. Ford, more so than even Maloney, has the potential to be a darling of the New York City smart set, a young, affable, handsome African American candidate who knows how to move easily in those progressive circles.

* The Black Vote: One in every five votes cast in a New York Democratic primary -- roughly -- come from African-American voters. Ford would have an obvious appeal to those voters that Gillibrand would struggle to match. And, the dynamics at the top of the ticket -- where the White House and other establishment Democrats are trying to push out Gov. David Paterson, who is black, out in favor of state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who is white, could make for an energized -- and angry -- African American electorate. At issue is whether black leaders in the state would either line up behind Ford's candidacy or stay neutral. Gillibrand already has an impressive list of prominent black supporters including former state Comptroller Carl McCall as well as Reps. Greg Meeks, Yvette Clarke and Ed Towns and the Rev. Al Sharpton. Paterson, for his part, offered a mixed message when asked about Ford's candidacy, telling reporters that "it's OK for anyone to challenge anybody in the primary this year," before adding paradoxically: "I would suggest that [Ford] might look for another state to run a primary in." Informed Democratic strategists in the state argue that simply coalescing a significant majority of black voters wouldn't be enough to put Ford over the top, noting that he would also have to find a way to appeal to Latino voters and -- as we mentioned above -- progressive whites living primarily in New York City.

*The Outsider: In his previous political incarnation, Ford was beloved by the party establishment. But, if he did make the race against Gillibrand, he would be lining up on the opposite side of the White House, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and powerhouse New York Sen. Chuck Schumer to name just a few. In a normal election cycle, that level of opposition would be determinative. But, in an election where voters are bitterly anti-incumbent -- see former Nassau County Executive Tom Suozzi's (D) stunning loss in 2009 -- the idea of the party powers-that-be trying to dictate who should represent the people of a state as diverse as New York might not sit well. "In New York there's a sense of a government hijacked -- four appointed and unelected statewide officials -- and an out-of-control state government run for the benefit of the politicians not the taxpayers," said New York Democratic media consultant Hank Sheinkopf. Gillibrand isn't doing herself any favors in reinforcing the insider versus outsider dynamic; she told the New York Daily News' Liz Benjamin today that "If you haven't run an election -- I was appointed, I wasn't elected -- you didn't have the benefit of a statewide media campaign."

* The Money: The heaviest lift for any challenge to Gillibrand is her financial might. With the exception of her home state colleague Schumer, Gillibrand has gained a reputation as the most voracious fundraiser in the Senate Democratic caucus -- a very good thing when one considers the massive cost of running a statewide television campaign in the state. In 2009 alone, Gillibrand raised $7.1 million and banked $5.1 million, the third highest total behind Schumer and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.). While Ford couldn't hope to match those sorts of sums, he is well-connected to the donor world in New York City and nationally from his 2006 Senate race, and would likely be able to put together enough cash to ensure that voters knew they had an alternative to Gillibrand. Need evidence? Check out the lead quote in the New York Times story last week revealing Ford's interest in the race. It came from financier Steve Rattner who, along with his wife, Maureen White, comprises one of the biggest Democratic donor couples in the country.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 12, 2010; 12:07 PM ET
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I think Harrison Ford has a better chance of becoming Senator from New York and unseating Kristen Gillibrand, than Harold Ford does at attempting that very same task. Who the the heck is Harold Ford?

Robert Kennedy was nationally known as US Attorney General, and people loved the Kennedys,and then when Kennedy entered the race, it was a couple months after the President, his brother, had died before his time. And there was a 20 minute interruption of applause and shouting for RFK at the Convention of 1964. Likewise, Clinton is the wife of a popular then president, and has similar circumstances. And I think eack RFK and HRC worked their butt off to show they were serious about their candidacies. Right now Harold Ford's candidacy is a media creation, he's a beltway insider, head of the Democratic Leadership Council and is mostly seen in Manhattan. Like Kennedy, he comes from a political dynasty, unlike Kennedy, his family is in jail. Joe Kennedy Sr. was at least a Wall Street operator and moved to New York in 27, thereby while not having a residency as an adult, RFK could claim he grew up in NY. I think Ford is relying more on the media circuit than establishing a statewide campaign.Its interesting to note the successful carpetbagger, Clinton had the backing of Sen. Monihan, Kennedy had the backing of local bosses and the political establishment. Ford is being told not to run by Schummer and Obama from his own party. Not quite friendly endorsements. I also think, there's a curse about this kind of candidacy of Harold Ford, a frontrunner with name recognition heir to a dynasty . Maybe he should talk to his old colleague Rep. Jim Moran , on how his brother Brian Moran is going to change things as the nonexistent governor-the governor that he should be? Or the president that Hillary Clinton should be? Or the President Rudy Guiliani should be, or Bill Bradley, Al Gore? Watch Ford follow the same tradition, or at least be a stalking horse for someone else-someone actually from New York.

Posted by: bflaherty5 | January 15, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, Ford is attempting to change his political stripes to fit his new landscape. Hillary did it so he assumes he can.

Don't assume that Black New Yorkers will support this guy because he is "black". In addition, Black women are fed up with well educated and high salaried professional black men who dump them for white women, particularly those of lower socio-economic standing. Ford's pallid, blonde wife was no where to be seen during his last political mishap. Did he keep her hidden from the white racist TN electorate and does he assume that black New Yorkers will embrace her?

Al Sharpton no longer has the pulse of the Black electorate. If he assumes it will fall in line behind his endorsement of this fraud, he should really stop perming his hair.

In addition to his anit-abortion and immigration and pro-gun record, Ford was absent on two votes regarding the genocide in the Sudan, and the child custody protection bill.

I resent the reference to albino looking Ford as an attractive African American man; dark skinned black men never receive such a compliment in the media.

Posted by: israelgetty | January 14, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

My question after reading half of these comments is what do you really know about the candidates. I don't think many of you people know what you want your chosen candidate to even do for you! This country is pretty diced up with your oppinions as to who you want but do you really know what you want from government? Spout off but we'll see who wins this one.

Posted by: rcdavisgtx | January 13, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

It's apples and oranges.. Ford is a smart politician who could add to NY's long line of big players.. and well.. what's her name is just an appointee.. I can't understand why some of the Democratic brain trustees don't get it (or say that they don't).. I'm just a dumb Floridian and I figured it out.

Posted by: newbeeboy | January 13, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Ford could not win in Tennessee and he cannot win in New York. It is very presumptuous of him to try to muscle in on Senator Gillibrand.

Posted by: Kansas28 | January 13, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I have carefully observed Harold Ford over the years he was a Congressman and now political analyst for MSNBC. Early in his political career he impressed me with his abilty to analyze issues objectively without giving way to partisan politics. We need more Senators like him, Senators who will speak and vote their mind on issues and not succumb to pressures from the White House or their party caucus. We need more candidates for the Senate like Harold Ford and Joe Sestak of PA who are willing to take the political risk of throwing their hats into the ring despite pressures from the White House and state political leaders to stay out.

Finally, I believe that in the not-to-distant future, Harold Ford will make a great U.S. President. He is highly intelligent, thoroughly versed in issues, principled, and effective.

Posted by: emjay1 | January 13, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

why should Ford even have a chance here? He is more conservative than Gillibrand and even less urban in his background- so why is would he be the darling of the liberal establishment- for the same reason that very moderate Barack was- the liberal establishment apparently is racist in that they only see the skin color of the person running, rather than policy positions or voting history. This is really not much better than the conservative establishment. Meanwhile- they are willing to throw any women under the bus- apparently they didn't read that women gained the right to vote 55 years after African American men did or that women, who make up 52% of the population, are what 12 or 100 senators?, maybe 7 of 50 governorships? Maybe they should simply go for the more qualified person with the better policy agenda- in this case neither is ideal, but Ford clearly has the worse policy (reproductive rights, immigration, gay marriage, etc) agenda and voting history

Posted by: NYClefty | January 12, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Ford should muscle in on Gillibrand. I don't like his DLC style. Gillibrand is plenty conservative enough for me. I think Ford is not authentic.

Stay in the south, Mr. Ford.

Posted by: sandnsmith | January 12, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Well as a democratic candidate, Ford is qualified.
He has the right skin Hue additionally he speaks quite well.

Posted by: dashriprock | January 12, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Has Harold Ford ever been to Staten Island ???

Does he realize that New York State is different from Manhattan ???

Does Harold Ford KNOW ANYONE UPSTATE???

Seriously, how can he run seriously if he has practically zero contacts around the state???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 12, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand this. Of all the 2006 Senate Democratic candidates, Harold Ford and Jim Pederson of Arizona were my favorite in what was a VERY, VERY strong group. The one I was most disappointed about was Ford. I thought he had a great future and I hoped he would run for national office in the future. I am a moderate Democrat who likes his views, but they are not that much different than Gillibrand's. My questions: why this state? Why now, when the Dems will have a hard enough time keeping the Senate? Do they really need a bruising primary fight?

I would hope Harold Ford finishes up his tenure at the DLC successfully, and moves back to Tennessee or another state to run with the support of the Democratic establishment. Ford is strong enough, easily, to topple a Republican incumbent. This is not his time, and Gillibrand is more than adequate.

Posted by: gander87 | January 12, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Ford is way to the Right of NY Democrats. It's not just a matter of abortion and Gay Rights, Ford is a Republican clone on economic policy. It's no wonder he is being promoted by Wall Street financiers, including Mayor Bloomberg--not exactly a man with the best interests of the Democratic Party at heart. It's also no suprise that Ford announced his candidacy today in the New York Post! Think about it. The last thing that New York liberals want is to be represented by a tool of Wall Street, and the last thing the Democratic Party needs is an unnecessary primary fight that reopens the wounds created by African Americans running against Women, and that threatens to sacrafice the newly won loyalty to the Democratic Party of Upstate voters. A terrible idea promoted by people with selfish interests only as motivations.

Posted by: rjoff | January 12, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Ford is way to the Right of NY Democrats. It's not just a matter of abortion and Gay Rights, Ford is a Republican clone on economic policy. It's no wonder he is being promoted by Wall Street financiers, including Mayor Bloomberg--not exactly a man with the best interests of the Democratic Party at heart. It's also no suprise that Ford announced his candidacy today in the New York Post! Think about it. The last thing that New York liberals want is to be represented by a tool of Wall Street, and the last thing the Democratic Party needs is an unnecessary primary fight that reopens the wounds created by African Americans running against Women, and that threatens to sacrafice the newly won loyalty to the Democratic Party of Upstate voters. A terrible idea promoted by people with selfish interests only as motivations.

Posted by: rjoff | January 12, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Harold Ford's positions on the major social issues - including gun control, abortion, and marriage equality - have consistently been to the right of Kirten Gillibrand's. When he was in the U.S. House of Representatives, both times the Federal Marriage Amendment was brought to a vote, Harold Ford voted for the amendment (that is, he voted to write the prohibition against gay marriage into the U.S. Constitution). His sudden Today Show 'conversion' reeks of insincerity and expediency.

Posted by: nevermore2 | January 12, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Politics in New York is a blood sport. Let Ford run. He doesn't have my vote now, but if he can survive a primary, he'll earn it in the general election.

Posted by: NYCchris | January 12, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The lure for the "light skinned" remark has gone unnoticed by most. So here it is.

Yes, Harold Ford can win in NY. And his speech is refined, too.

Posted by: kishorgala | January 12, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

My answer to your question "Can Harold Ford win in New York?" No.

Posted by: fable104 | January 12, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

What the Virginia governors race showed me that a conservative white candidate playing hick politics will not bring the Democratic base out. A liberal black candidate with firm ideals WILL. Virginia has gone from being known in one thought Thomas Jefferson and UVA to Pat Robertson and Liberty Babtist. Who would locate High Tech in that swill?

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 12, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The demographics are with him... as Tennessee proved, racism and the Civil War are still being fought 150 years later... i.e. States Right to have all white majorities.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 12, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Harold Ford, Jr. can definitely win in New York -- most definitely.

Posted by: Jax1 | January 12, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Gillibrand was a GUN NUT and that is also an anathema to New York voters. She is getting away with switching positions by many but not by me. Jonathan Tasini would be the best candidate by far. Ford and Gillibrand are the same.

Posted by: nivbri21 | January 12, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse


After all the RACIAL INTIMIDATION POLITICS BY OBAMA, Obama has got to be kidding that he wants to give Harry Reid a pass.


It really is a laugh.


Obama is a COMPLETE FRAUD. Obama only cares about race in as much as it can give him a political advantage.


What has Obama done to improve racial relations ??? NOTHING.


All Obama has done is inflame the situation.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 12, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I hope Ford runs, just because it would drive Chuck Schumer absolutely nuts.

Posted by: JBaustian | January 12, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Ford doesn't stand a chance he's been in New York for three years and has contributed zilch to the political scene and now he wants the grand prize of a senate seat no way New Yorkers are not that gullible.

Posted by: onewt1 | January 12, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Ford doesn't stand a chance he's been in New York for three years and has contributed zilch to the political scene and now he wants the grand prize of a senate seat no way New Yorkers are not that gullible.

Posted by: onewt1 | January 12, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Ford doesn't know the first thing about New York politics -


He has little experience in New York


He has little or no contacts throughout the State - New York is a huge state.

Ford is not going to be able to do anything.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 12, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

You've very ably laid out the scenarios in which Ford might win.

It makes me wonder, though, if the ill will it creates might not backfire against him when he runs for something that's truly a likelihood.

Actually, I think Ford is far more able than Gillibrand, but he's just too new to NY--esp. suburbs and upstate (the 'carpetbagger factor' notwithstanding), he's got the WH and the entire D. establishment against him, and even though he ran a near-perfect campaign against Corker in TN, he'd laid the groundwork so much better than he possibly could have by now.

If he's wise, he'd do better to wait until the next cycle.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | January 12, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Ford is way foolish to think he can beat Gillibrand. If anything, his primary challenenge would help her get better name recognition downstate and in the western part of this huge state. In central NYS people like her spunky, smart way and her family life that has GOP roots in Albany.

That she is not from the city is a big plus upstate, and Ford would then be running against the prejudices of upstate which are less favorable to an African American than downstate. Another (statewide) bias is against southerners, who are not much appreciated for their religious Baptist fervor, disregard for women's equality, anti-union convictions, and general xenophobia and homophobia. Gillibrand has none of these problems anymore since moving to a more liberal stance on most issues to better conform to the views of her statewide constituency.

I saw a piece today suggesting that Ford would possibly switch parties and run as a Republican. After he sees how poorly that would play out in NYC, he had better consider moving back south of the Mason-Dixon line where God, guns and grits are supreme.

Posted by: enough3 | January 12, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I REALLY BELIEVE SOME CONTEXT IS DESERVED HERE WITH THE HARRY REID DOUBLE STANDARD.

In 2008, we had vicious democrats ready to POUNCE on anyone who said anything about race.


Bill Clinton was attacked in South Carolina


Gerry Ferraro was attacked over her comments.

Obama even made a speech in which he said that the Republicans haven't said anything yet, but they are "going to."

IT WAS VICIOUS INTIMIDATION POLITICS.

ALL for political gain, not motivated by improving racial relations.


NOW OBAMA HAS THE ATMOSPHERE WHICH HE CREATED.


And he wants to give a pass to Harry Reid.

THIS IS A DISGRACE - OBAMA IS A HYPOCRITE.

THERE IS NO WAY OBAMA OR HARRY REID SHOULD BE LET OFF THE HOOK ON THIS ONE.

OBAMA SHOULD BE CALLED OUT FOR THE FRAUD HE IS.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 12, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Of course he can win.

He's light-skinned without a Negro accent, isn't he?

signed,
Harry R.

Posted by: Opinionator | January 12, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

The buck starts here would be more accurate.

All three trillion of them.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 12, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

that's exactly it, Ddawd. You can call it agility or just politics. She understands who her constituency is and what they want. I don't see Ford getting that at all. He isn't going to win by being charming.

Posted by: drindl | January 12, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

that's exactly it, Ddawd. She understands who her constituency is and what they want. I don't see Ford doing that.

Posted by: drindl | January 12, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"As a New Yorker, I'm disgusted with Chuck Schumer and the White House and their (apparently successful) attempts to strong-arm logical candidates like the two Carolyns (McCarthy and Maloney) into not running against our gun-toting, homophobic, politically-dynastic appointed junior Senator whose name nobody south of Albany can even spell. But I'd be equally disgusted with a carpetbagger like Harold Ford."

Her positions have changed a lot since being appointed to the Senate. Her positions are a lot more in favor of gun control now. She is a very strong supporter of civil unions nationally and gay marriage in NY. She also opposes DOMA and DODT. Hell, she was like one of five Senators to vote against stripping ACORN of funding. (a courageous vote, in my opinion)

In short, Senator Gillebrand is quite different from Congresswoman Gillebrand. Perhaps you can be critical of her willingness to switch positions, but and progressive should be very happy with the positions she has switched to.

Posted by: DDAWD | January 12, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

You should ask Bush since he created it.

Posted by: angie12106
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Time for the buck to stop at the POTUS. Or is that just another lie?

Posted by: leapin | January 12, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

moonbat wrote>>>Who thought we wanted higher unemployment, lousy economy and mountains of debt?

You should ask Bush since he created it.

Posted by: angie12106 | January 12, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

He should change his name to Edsel.

Posted by: leapin | January 12, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

NO - power-hungry Ford can't win.
But as you suggest, he'd run just to make himself known for a future NY seat.

Posted by: angie12106 | January 12, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Drindl, what I meant was that nobody wanted to support Gillibrand or likes the idea of voting for her. Of course most Democrats will vote Democratic in this race no matter who is running. I, however, plan to cast a blank vote for the Senate if she's on the Democratic ticket.

Posted by: Itzajob | January 12, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Since Maloney dropped out, every progressive I know [and I know plenty] in Westchester and Manhattan supports Gillibrand. Ford doesn't have a chance upstate or downstate either. He has no constituency here. As the Memphis poster put it, he was not even liked by progressives down south.

Posted by: drindl | January 12, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Can Charlie Crist win?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/12/us/politics/AP-US-Florida-Senate-Straw-Poll.html?_r=1

Apparently not in his hometown, where he lost to Rubio by 2:1 in a recent straw poll.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 12, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Corey_NY, many downstaters don't really know who whats'er-name is; she garners so little coverage in the NYC news outlets.

But those who do tend to oppose her stands on the issues, especially her longstanding anti-gay and pro-gun positions. (Her recent decision, as she was being considered for the Senate apppointment, not to hate gay people so much after all, doesn't really cut it down here.)

I can't really think of anyone I know who supports her.

Posted by: Itzajob | January 12, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Any wonder why Barry is dithering again with confronting the American people about the state he has rendered our union?

Meanwhile Charlie cook says the past weeks have been gruesome and psychologically devestating for democrats. He predicts a six seat pickup for Rs in the Senate. Could be more if Barry dares show his face on the campaign trail.

All that change he promised has backfired. Who thought we wanted higher unemployment, lousy economy and mountains of debt?

I hope he knows what he's doing. I hope we don't get blown up. I hope our children will forgive us for electing this bozo.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 12, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

There are a couple of points that make no sense to me, but I'll just pick out one.

"Gillibrand... is a virtual unknown to voters in New York City."

One, New Yorkers know who Gillibrand by now and she can't be both unpopular and unknown at the same time.

But serious, if you don't even know who Kirsten Gillibrand is yet then you're likely to vote in a Democratic Primary.

Posted by: Corey_NY | January 12, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed at all the hype surrounding Harold Ford, Jr. He is all style and no substance. He was my undistinguished congressman for 10 years and only got the seat because his daddy was his predecessor. Does anyone know if he's passed the bar exam yet? He is a little twit who is only interested in promoting himself. His father was a great progressive legislator so Jr. went the other way. He did not represent the citizens of Memphis very well. I can't believe anyone would vote for him. I never did.

Posted by: MemphisWoman | January 12, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Cyberfool, absolutely! Ford would be a carpetbagger, Clinton was a carpetbagger, and so was RFK.

And I cannot believe they renamed a perfectly good bridge over the latter carpetbagging piece of work. It, and all of this, is an insult to all Democrats (and indeed, people of all political persuasions) who have lived in New York for more than 5 minutes.

Posted by: Itzajob | January 12, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

IN NY, FORD IS AN EDSEL

New Yorkers have accepted carpetbaggers before, of course -- but Ford lacks the cachet of a Hillary Clinton or Bobby Kennedy.

And he's from Tennessee. The only things from Tennessee that sell in New York are whiskey and Elvis. To borrow a line, in New York, Tennessee Harold Ford is an Edsel.


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Posted by: scrivener50 | January 12, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

'Ford, more so than even Maloney, has the potential to be a darling of the New York City smart set, a young, affable, handsome African American candidate who knows how to move easily in those progressive circles."

No. He's a blue dog, and we're not stupid here.

Please do not infer that black voters will vote for him simply because he is black. They will vote for whomever best represents their interests.

I would have preferred Maloney, but I will certainly go for Gillibrand over Ford, and so will most progressives.

Posted by: drindl | January 12, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I get that you and Ford are both onn MSNBC and everytime I see this brought on MSNBC, everybody plays coy about it.

But this article really could have just then the title and one word, "One."

Posted by: Corey_NY | January 12, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight; The seat that Hillary Clinton who had no real connection with the state till she moved there and before that RFK, who also had no real ties to NY State, now is being sought by Harold Ford, but Ford is being called a carpet-bagger? Excuse me, but this sounds fishy to me.

I think another angle on this whole issue is that with Patterson getting nudged out that the state's Democratic leadership will (or ought to) look a bit more favorably at a Black candidate for Senate.

Posted by: cyberfool | January 12, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Harold Ford has NO IDEA what New York politics is all about


Has Ford even driven north of the city?


This is a complete joke. Has Ford even been to some of the neighborhoods in Queens ??? There are 100 ethnic groups there.

You need a little experience to run in New York.


Forget it - does Harold Ford even realize he has to campaign in Buffalo ????

Let's see Ford drive to Buffalo, and then when he gets back, let's see if he is still running.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 12, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

As a New Yorker, I'm disgusted with Chuck Schumer and the White House and their (apparently successful) attempts to strong-arm logical candidates like the two Carolyns (McCarthy and Maloney) into not running against our gun-toting, homophobic, politically-dynastic appointed junior Senator whose name nobody south of Albany can even spell. But I'd be equally disgusted with a carpetbagger like Harold Ford.

Why can't Reps. McCarthy and/or Maloney just back out of whatever oaths not to run they were forced to swear? (If they were coercive, they're not enforceable!)

The whole thing is just disgusting. Especially Chuck Schumer. Disgusting, disgusting, disgusting.

Posted by: Itzajob | January 12, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party (i.e. White House) does not want competitive primaries in congressional races. That is what democracy is all about, letting the people choose who should receive the nomination. The White House thinks we are back in the time of "King Caucus" when party hacks decided who will run for what office. If the Democratic Party is the "progressive party" then let them have open, competitive primaries.

Posted by: rogden71 | January 12, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, he does run.

Posted by: JakeD | January 12, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

old Ford is the strongest candidate in New York. The Dems need to swallow their pride and back the best candidate in that race.

Harhttp://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | January 12, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

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