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Harry Reid's dismal poll numbers (and why he will be the Democratic nominee)



New polling suggests Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is in deep trouble as he faces re-election this fall. Photo by Joshua Roberts of REUTERS

A new independent poll commissioned by the liberal Daily Kos blog shows Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) continuing to struggle badly in advance of his re-election race this fall.

But, unlike Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), who retired in the face of numbers that suggested he couldn't win, or Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), who is the subject of retirement rumors amid desultory poll numbers, there appears to be little talk that Reid might step aside.

While some within the party have said that if Reid wasn't on the ballot the seat would be a win for Democrats, some of the data in the Kos poll suggests otherwise.

First off, there is only one "Democratic" candidate tested who leads both businessman Danny Tarkanian and former state party chairwoman Sue Lowden -- the co-favorites for the Republican nod.

That candidate is Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman who leads Tarkanian 44 percent to 41 percent and Lowden 44 percent to 40 percent. The only problem? Goodman isn't a Democrat, having switched his party affiliation to independent last December.

And, according to Jon Ralston, the best political reporter in Nevada, state law prohibits anyone who has switched party affiliation to be a candidate for a major party nomination in the same election cycle.

Goodman, too, seem far more interested in the possibility of running for governor as an independent amid polling that shows he would be a serious contender in a three way race.

Assuming Goodman is a non-starter, the other Democrats tested by Kos -- Secretary of State Ross Miller, the son of a popular former governor and Rep. Shelley Berkley -- trail both Lowden and Tarkanian although, in truth, none of the candidates are well known and the polling at this point amounts to a name identification contest.

And, it's also clear from the poll that the state, which went for President Obama by a 12-point margin in 2008, is moving away from Democrats -- making the idea that simply replacing Reid with a generic Democrat will secure the seat for the party somewhat far-fetched.

Forty five percent of the Kos sample had a favorable opinion of President Obama while 55 percent had an unfavorable one; his numbers were slightly worse among independents -- 43 percent favorable toward the president, 54 percent unfavorable.

At the same time, the Kos numbers paint a detailed picture of just how bad off Reid is as he prepares to face the state's voters in less than ten months time.

Reid trails Tarkanian by 10 points and Lowden by nine points in hypothetical general election matchups but that is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of his political problems.

Roughly one in three (34 percent) Nevada voters have a favorable opinion of Reid while 55 percent view him in an unfavorable light. Independents are deeply sour on Reid (26 fav/61 unfav) and even Democrats are far from sold with nearly one in three expressing an unfavorable opinion of him.

What the Kos poll shows is that national Democrats could be headed for a no-win situation in Nevada -- trapped between a candidate who voters have clearly decided needs to be replaced and a group of potential replacements that represent nothing close to a sure thing.

Reid has proven himself to be a politician with nine lives and we never discount his ability to find a way to fundamentally change the dynamic of the race. But, to date, he has struggled to do despite spending considerable sums of money on television ads that make clear how he is making his clout in the Senate work for the state.

These poll numbers suggest he might be the best Democrats have in the state but that isn't saying all that much.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 25, 2010; 12:52 PM ET
Categories:  Senate  
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At least Noacoler won't post again on 1/26/10 (he "insists" he doesn't post here more than 6 times per day).

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh well,so even WAPO the new Official Voice
of the Messiah Barack Hussein Obama's Socialist Newspaper should be able to grasp
the simple facts here,that Democrat Senate
Majority Leader Horrible Harry Reid is the
Worst Democrat US Senate Majority Leader in
US history. And,that Democrat Speaker of the House Botox Nancy Pelosi is the Worst
Speaker of the House in US history along
with the Worst Democrat House Majority Leader Slimey Smiley Steny Hoyer and that
Reid is part of the Absolute Worst Congress,Democrat or Republican in history.
And WAPO you expect the Dimwit Socialist
Democrat Liberal Party to do anything that
will help the American people,after all that do you now then? If so,please go get
jobs flipping hamburgers at McDonalds as
your WAPO staff is far better qualified for
employment there,than as a newspaper.

Posted by: carleen09 | January 26, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1001/1001.3964v1.pdf

Fascinating article on the unification of General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics.  The abstract:

Abstract. A new kind of duality between the deep structures of spacetime and matter is proposed here,
considering two partial orders which incorporate causality, extensity, and discreteness. This may have
surprising consequences for the emergence of quantum mechanics, which are discussed.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 2:02 AM | Report abuse

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1001/1001.3887v1.pdf

This article is a bit of a hoot.  Not as sober as the previous one, entirely speculative, but the author talks about using spaceborne gamma-ray lasers to create attometer-sized artificial black holes to be used as energy sources.  For those who don't read much physics, black holes "evaporate"; as a direct result of the Uncertainty Principle, the formation of particle-antiparticle pairs in the vicinity of the event horizon can lead to one particle being absorbed and the other escaping, but since information is lost in the absorbed one, the other has indeterminate energy, hence randomness, hence heat.  Stellar-mass sized BH's are actually cooler than the anisotropic background radiation, but smaller ones would be *quite* hot, and artificial ones as described would radiate intensely at extremely high frequencies, power sources lasting for a century or more even without being "fed" with any random matter.

Short article, easy reading, certainly better reading than the trolls.  Since political discussions are no longer possible here with carpet-posting by nitwits, I propose to make better use of the space.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Remember Pioneer 10 and 11?  These two spacecraft were sent to the outer reaches of the solar system.  Their locations were measured with more precision than any remote objects in human history, down to a few molecular diameters.   Since the positions of every object of any significant size in the solar system are already very well-known, scientists could predict the trajectory of the two spacecraft with extreme precision.  Doppler measurements of the crafts' velocity and acceleration were made, and in both cases it was discovered that the two craft were not exhibiting quite the accelerations expected.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1001/1001.3686v1.pdf

In both cases, beginning about 27 AU out, both spacecraft showed a sunward acceleration (that is, a deceleration in their outward trajectories).  The effect, now known as the Pioneer Anomaly, has been measured as about eight atomic diameters per second.  Doesn't sound like much, but it's well within the margin of error.  The paper referenced above examines several dozen candidates for the anomalous acceleration and shows that non of them, not even all of them combined, can account for the anomaly.

THIS IS FASCINATING STUFF.

It would be one thing if it were just an uncharted object in the solar system, but then the effect would have been brief.  It wasn't.  It increased over time, the further from the sun the two craft traveled, the more pronounced was the unaccountable acceleration.  Every scientist interested in some fringe idea like string theory or triply-special relativity (in which the Planck length and the Planck mass are constant in all inertuial reference frames as well as the speed of light) weighed in with their own ideas.  Perhaps the Hubble expansion is manifest even in gravitationally-bound systems like the solar planets.
Thought someone might like some interesting reading, 'cause that sure as hell does not describe the comment sections of this blog.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Jake and Moonbat


I think there were just 2 or 3 people on here posting pro-Obama stuff under multiple multiple screen names.


The way they come in and out - it has to be a coordinated group.


Amazing, that 2 or 3 people can do that to a board.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

This is what I don't get from the stimulus bill:


787 Billion Dollars - divided by let's just say $30,000 per job


Is 26 MILLION JOBS.


The economy has lost 7 million jobs in the recession - and there are only 15 million people out of work total.

What did Obama and the democrats do with the money ????

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Harry the horse's asp Reid will be ousted from the Senate in 9 months from now.

Mark my words.

Posted by: screwjob2 | January 25, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so stupid that getting hit by that MA Truck wasn't enough..that it has to back up and run over these clueless morons again.

Dem leaders unite on health care strategy
Washington Post - Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar

-- Democratic congressional leaders are uniting around their last, best hope for salvaging President Barack Obama's sweeping health care overhaul

Posted by: JWx2 | January 25, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Noacoler, but that's your self-imposed limit of SIX POSTS per day. Perhaps tomorrow you can try to convince us that no one ever referred to Bush as "pResident" or, even beter, "chimp" again.

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Harry Reid is smart enough to know any poll by the Wash Post is a laugh.

Posted by: pkbishop1 | January 25, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse


OH sorry - add to that list that Reid sent 30 more Senate staff that we do not have the names for.


then ask yourself

WHY

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Here is a list of the people Pelosi and Reid sent to Copenhagen - after the global warming emails came out stating that the data has been faked -


All at a cost of over $ 1,000,000 to the American Taxpayer -


Then you can ask yourself why - why anything

Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Pelosi's husband
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer
Rep. George Miller
Rep. Henry Waxman
Rep. Ed Markey
Markey’s wife
Rep. Charles Rangel
Rep. Bart Gordon
Rep. James Sensenbrenner
Sensenbrenner's wife
Rep. Sander Levin
Rep. Joe Barton
Barton daughter
Rep. Fred Upton
Rep. Earl Blumenauer
Rep. Diana DeGette
Rep. Jay Inslee
Inslee's wife
Rep. Shelley Moore Capito
Rep. Moore Capito husband
Rep. John Sullivan
Rep. Tim Ryan
Rep. GK Butterfield
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords
Gifford's husband
Rep. Marsha Blackburn
President Obama
Sen. James Inhofe
Sen. John Kerry
Stacee Bako
Don Kellaher
Wilson Livingood
Brian Monahan
John Lawrence
Karen Wayland
Drew Hammill
Kate Knudson
Bridget Fallon
Bina Surgeon
Mary Frences Repko
Nona Darrell
Tony Jackson
Josh Mathis
Phil Barnett
David Cavicke
Lisa Miller
Peter Spencer
Andrea Spring
Lorie Schmitt
Greg Dotson
Alex Barron
Christopher King
Shimere Williams
Tara Rothschild
Margaret Caravelli
Gerry Waldron
Ana Unruh-Cohen
Jeff Duncan
Eben Burnham-Snyder
Joel Beauvais
Michael Goo
Tom Schreibel
Harlan Watson
Bart Forsyth
Ed Rice
Steve Rusnak
Carey Lane
Matt Dempsey
Dempsey wife
George Sugyama
Tom Hassenbohler


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

So,looks like the Neveda Voters are going to turn that Democrat relic of the long ended dinosaur age fossil Harry Reid into
a pre-historic relic in some natural history dinosaur display...I bet the Botox
Beauty Queen Nancy Pelosi and Smiley Slimey
Steny Hoyer will soon be added to that same
display right along with RINO Arizona GOP
US Senator Amnesty John McCain and soon
after when election 2012 rolls around that
brain dead empty suit teleprompter reader
from Kenya currently in the White House,
unless off another vacation or out playing
golf Barack Hussein Obama will be stuffed
and added to the African Display as well...
Vote all Incumbents Out Democrat & GOP!..
Elect Sarah Palin President in 2012!

Posted by: Jan1977 | January 25, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

So,looks like the Neveda Voters are going to turn that Democrat relic of the long ended dinosaur age fossil Harry Reid into
a pre-historic relic in some natural history dinosaur display...I bet the Botox
Beauty Queen Nancy Pelosi and Smiley Slimey
Steny Hoyer will soon be added to that same
display right along with RINO Arizona GOP
US Senator Amnesty John McCain and soon
after when election 2012 rolls around that
brain dead empty suit teleprompter reader
from Kenya currently in the White House,
unless off another vacation or out playing
golf Barack Hussein Obama will be stuffed
and added to the African Display as well...
Vote all Incumbents Out Democrat & GOP!..
Elect Sarah Palin President in 2012!

Posted by: Jan1977 | January 25, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't take any conspiracy or coordination for all the non trolls to move on. The immaturity of posts like "pResident" is simply overpowering for people with education and jobs. You guys want to post childish nonsense, party on, I'm sure CC is wriggling with delight watching you guys pissing all over the blog.

Leave it to the trolls.

Better polish up your resume, Cillizza.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 25, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

walterndebby don't know the difference between disagreeing with someone and calling them a traitor. Grow up.

Posted by: newageblues | January 25, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

walterndebby don't know the difference between disagreeing with someone and calling them a traitor. Grow up.

Posted by: newageblues | January 25, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Reid, Dude,
You have taken a real a..-kickin' this year - not that you haven't deserved it. Old age requires a good deal of dedicated time set aside in which you contemplate your own mortality...and learn to accept the inevitable.

Let it go - pass that baton.

Posted by: easttxisfreaky | January 25, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Our country as well as the good people of Neveda will be so much better off without Senator Reid. He has been part of one bad decision after another and doesn't deserve to be reelected.

Posted by: tonyretartha | January 25, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

The Daily Kos Blog shows the flagging fortunes of Dingy Harry with the NV voters. I don't suppose a poll on approval rates for back room politics, 4 hours to read and vote on a 2000+ page bill, multiple bribes paid in taxpayer funds to get an onerous bill passed in the Senate, and on ad nausium will weigh more heavily on the voters minds come November. I'd run such a poll very publicly the 1st of November.

Posted by: PRRWRITER | January 25, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The Daily Kos Blog shows the flagging fortunes of Dingy Harry with the NV voters. I don't suppose a poll on approval rates for back room politics, 4 hours to read and vote on a 2000+ page bill, multiple bribes paid in taxpayer funds to get an onerous bill passed in the Senate, and on ad nausium will weigh more heavily on the voters minds come November. I'd run such a poll very publicly the 1st of November.

Posted by: PRRWRITER | January 25, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cilliza must be crazy to use information obtained from the Daily Kos. The Daily Kos is a arch-leftist, treasonous outfit that has no credability at all. However, Harry Reid is toast. He has no chance in Nevada and deserves none.
This guy is stooge for Obama and a fool.

Posted by: walterndebby | January 25, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If that's the case, then they can stand right in line behind Fox and Rush when they go to court for charges of treason.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | January 25, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse


Jake and Moonbat


They all left - they have moved in unison again - They are working together - perhaps out of one room


What do you think ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street
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otherwize called the Vagina Monologues...

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 25, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: walterndebby,

"Mr. Cilliza must be crazy....."
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Silly sounds better than crazy.....Silly Cilliza.....See what I mean!

Posted by: kishorgala | January 25, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Jake and Moonbat


They all left - they have moved in unison again - They are working together - perhaps out of one room


What do you think ???


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cilliza must be crazy to use information obtained from the Daily Kos. The Daily Kos is a arch-leftist, treasonous outfit that has no credability at all. However, Harry Reid is toast. He has no chance in Nevada and deserves none.
This guy is stooge for Obama and a fool.

Posted by: walterndebby | January 25, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cilliza must be crazy to use information obtained from the Daily Kos. The Daily Kos is a arch-leftist, treasonous outfit that has no credability at all. However, Harry Reid is toast. He has no chance in Nevada and deserves none.
This guy is stooge for Obama and a fool.

Posted by: walterndebby | January 25, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cilliza must be crazy to use information obtained from the Daily Kos. The Daily Kos is a arch-leftist, treasonous outfit that has no credability at all. However, Harry Reid is toast. He has no chance in Nevada and deserves none.
This guy is stooge for Obama and a fool.

Posted by: walterndebby | January 25, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I inflated my car tires today so all will be right in the world soon.

Barry O.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 25, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RobT1 | January 25, 2010 5:17 PM
".......Also, did everyone see the picture of Obama using his telepromters to talk to a group of 6th graders. Funny."
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Comparatively, George Bush cheating in the 2004 debates with a receiver/transmitter sticking out his back, trying to decipher what the Handlers were ordering, was not funny. Sad, but not funny! Ok, may be sadly funny.

Posted by: kishorgala | January 25, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RobT1 | January 25, 2010 5:17 PM
".......Also, did everyone see the picture of Obama using his telepromters to talk to a group of 6th graders. Funny."
=======================================
Comparatively, George Bush cheating in the 2004 debates with a receiver/transmitter sticking out his back, trying to decipher what the Handlers were ordering, was not funny. Sad, but not funny! Ok, may be sadly funny.

Posted by: kishorgala | January 25, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

When Harry Reid ponders either his defeat or his retirement, he can reflect on his and his fellow Democrats support for these decisions:

1. Decision - Ignore previous Republican crimes, misdemeanors and profligacy – tax cuts for the wealthy: Constituencies - Republican voters and Republican Senators and Representatives he hoped would become 'bi-partisan'.
2. Decision - Support a stingy stimulus that was half of what was needed and included one-thirds tax breaks, increasing the deficit and further reducing the stimulus to one-third of what was needed: Constituencies – Wealthy investors, special interests.

3. Decision - Kill the only option that would have slowed the cost of health care & led to universal coverage – $ 753 Billions : Constituencies - Health insurance and pharmacy industries.

4. Decision - Accelerate the Bush bailout, $ 4.3 Trillions in bailouts, guarantees and purchasing assets from the private sector at well above market value: Constituency - Financial industry and banks.

5. Decision - Escalate a meaningless and fruitless war, $600 Billions: Constituencies - military and corporate mercenaries.

6. Decision - Gut real financial reform and substitute finger wagging and silly taxes and fees, while banking fees continue up, lending freezes and credit tightens - $UNK Billions: Constituencies - financial industry and the wealthy.

7. Decision - Not help people with bankruptcy and mortgages remediation – accelerating middle class decline: Constituencies - financial industry, banks and wealthy.
and 

8. Decision - Fiddle around and not pass a jobs bill – accelerating middle class decline (Already spent to much money, cut taxes and increased the deficit – so, sorry, no money for the middle class and American voters, and time for a 'deficit commission'' to be sure you never get anything !): Constituencies: Wealthy and Republicans.

Well, Harry, you seem to have stopped governing in the public interest. When did you stop? Too bad for all of us you did. But it's time for you to go - and , here's the destructiveness of American in a nutshell - Max Baucus will remain.

Posted by: theworm1 | January 25, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Barring any big improvements in the economy in the less than 10 months before the 2010 midterms the Republicans are looking likely to gain 8 seats. That means they need to win two seats that no one counts right now to get the majority. Can you say Evan Bayh.

Also, did everyone see the picture of Obama using his telepromters to talk to a group of 6th graders. Funny.

Posted by: RobT1 | January 25, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I've seen the Democrats self-destruct so many times over the years I have come to expect it.
Reid couldn't even get his own party together for THE most important vote since they gave GW Bush the O.K. to invade Iraq.
They could have got away with there ineptitude for a few more election cycles but Obama raised the bar so high during his election that the subsequent failure to execute any of his major "Changes" has made the the ineffectiveness of the Democrats glaringly clear and we independents, progressives and populists, having no leader to rally around, are turning away in disgust.

Posted by: thestoryplease | January 25, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Wonderful, please run Dingy Harry! Obama will be going to Nevada to stump for him, and they both will be humiliated, Obama even more so than Dingy Harry. Can't wait! The delusional Obama still thinks that he's a positive force behind a candidate... I guess he missed VA, NJ and MA. That's ok! A bad day for him is a good day for me!

Posted by: Nico7 | January 25, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line ....... "Dingy Harry" is going down, as are MANY other elitist, uber-liberal Democrat politicians!
☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂☂

Does it go without saying that they would be joining the debris left over from Bush Cheney?

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 25, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

More like lemmings over a cliff.

Posted by: drivl | January 25, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Either way, it's like leading the cows to slaughter ...

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that the reason Harry Reid will be the Democratic nominee for re-election is that it is one thing for a regular Senator like Dodd to resign in order to avoid losing his Senate seat to the Republicans, for the Senate Majority Leader to do so would be viewed as an act of surrender by the Democratic Party and would probably significantly increase the Republican gains in the November elections.

Posted by: bot_feeder | January 25, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that the reason Harry Reid will be the Democratic nominee for re-election is that it is one thing for a regular Senator like Dodd to resign in order to avoid losing his Senate seat to the Republicans, for the Senate Majority Leader to do so would be viewed as an act of surrender by the Democratic Party and would probably significantly increase the Republican gains in the November elections.

Posted by: bot_feeder | January 25, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Liberal science seems idiotic:

Many deaths have been reported as extreme winter conditions return to Europe. Meteorologists forecast that the latest cold snap is here to stay. (Snip) The thermometer showed a record minus 34.4 degrees Celsius in the north-eastern Polish town of Bilaystok in the night of Sunday to Monday. 12 people died in Poland on Sunday alone. The highest number of casualities was reported in Romania, where 23 people have frozen to death


Liberal politics seems wacky:

A question about Barack Obama is starting to take shape in the American mind: where does this stop? The “this” is the collective hodgepodge of delinquent policy, administrative incompetence, a bottomless capacity for self-delusion, hubris, and the vetoing of American opinion. The “this” is comprised of attempts to harness populist disaffection in order to create a diversion, the presidential campaign that never ends, the 24/7 up-and-down-the-dial interview blitz, the hyper-partisan “post-partisanship,” and, foremost, the compulsion to lay all blame at the feet of the previous president.

Posted by: drivl | January 25, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

What do liberals do to wealth and markets:

Existing-home sales took their biggest tumble in at least 40 years last month as the impact of a buying spree spurred by a tax credit for first-time buyers waned, according to industry data released Monday. Buyers who rushed to meet the original November deadline to take advantage of a $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers caused a surge in sales earlier in the year but left the market wobbly by the end

Posted by: drivl | January 25, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

A moron, a clown, and a nitwit.

Same old Ace McNumbnuts.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 25, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

A moron, a clown, and a nitwit.

Same old Ace McNumbnuts.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 25, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama, Reid and Pelosi - is it possible that they are that out-of-touch ???


Pelosi - she spends all day Wednesday saying she is going to press ahead with the health care bill -

Then she goes into a meeting with her own members on Thursday - and comes out and says she does not have the votes - THE THING IS: NANCY SHOULD KNOW WHAT HER MEMBERS ARE GOING TO SAY BEFORE THEY SAY IT.


Nancy should understand the political positions of the segments of her conference - and understand where they are going to be coming from.


BEFORE THE MEETING. - that's what I am astonished at - the democratic leadership simply does not understand their own conferences. Maybe Reid is much better at this than Pelosi - but CLEARLY THERE IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM HERE.

I can not believe there is not a movement to replace Pelosi right now.

This is the kind of point at which most Speakers get replaced - the only thing that is probably saving her is that most of the blame belongs with Obama - and Obama's decisions this year have been so bad that it is hard to blame Pelosi.

Pelosi hasn't been setting records either - she has not been working with Reid - and she has UNREALISTICALLY been caving in to her left wing all year long.

A Speaker should not be caving into the left - a Speaker should have an eye on the overall picture - and know what can get through get the Senate - and keep everything in acceptable ranges.

It just seems like the whole process within the democrats has been a mess - very little leadership - very little idea about what it will take to finally get this legislation passed - just overall horrible performance all around.

Reid and Pelosi were not negotiating all year - getting to a place where they could pass a bill ? Why aren't these two bills closer together ???

How in the world did Stupak have this big compromise - they brought in the bishops as well - and then that Stupak compromise is NOT in the Senate bill ???

The whole attitude all year was - let's get the bill through this step or this committee - tell them whatever it takes - but that isn't going to be the final bill - it was like they were going through the motions but not really doing anything.

It was like they were telling everyone that they weren't taking the initial steps in the legislative process seriously.

Well - wasn't that a part of the problem ??? Those steps are there for a reason - and they weren't going through the steps properly.

It comes down to Obama and the critical errors.


Obama's address to Congress in September was a mistake - I believe it is clear to everyone that they were lying about what was in the bill - AND that prompted the famous "You Lie." outcry.

Now, if the focus groups are saying on set of things, that the Obama people believe they need a set of cover lies- what is the use of the whole thing ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

A ped, a sped and a stooge.

same old Fix.

Posted by: drivl | January 25, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line ....... "Dingy Harry" is going down, as are MANY other elitist, uber-liberal Democrat politicians!

Posted by: BillBren | January 25, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

how about you focus on your racist directional objective and allow me to make my point, fighting the good fight and going out with dignity. That is what history remembers more so than minions of destruction.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 25, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Romney is a plastic creep in a three-piece suit. His phoniness is palpable. And concerns about his religion certainly are germane, Mormonism is an abusive cult that doctrinally opposes the separation of church and state.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 25, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

drivel, can't you at least credit whoever you are cutting and pasting your garbage from?

Whoever you stole that from sounds like an ingrate.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 25, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

JakeD


I think we can sit here all day and state the obvious -


AND still turn on the tv and see Obama or the White House saying something completely out-of-touch with their political position.

It is amazing - Obama said that he didn't spend enough time last year "speaking to the American people about what their values are."


I know this didn't get much attention - however Obama is not going to tell the American people what their values are.

We have Rev. Jeremiah Wright for that !


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"It's not as if they paid any attention when Mitt Romney was running for president. Oh, that's right, they did not care about ANYTHING except his religion."

So the mainstream media was able to exert mind control over GOP primary voters? Interesting theory. Maybe Mittens is just a flip-flopping, dog-abusing loser, regardless of his religion.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 25, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

(Not that I want to do drindl's job, but I guess that someone has too):

"In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process. It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated."

-- Jim Webb (D-VA)

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/health-care-comes-to-screeching-halt-sen-webb-no-hcr-votes-until-brown-seated.php

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Lose a Senate seat but gain a majority leader with a spine? Sounds like a win to me. Reid has caved to Republicans again and again. Why wait till November? Give the SML post to soneone ready to aggressively and unapologetically pursue Obama's agenda, not a weak sister like Reid. Give it to Jim Webb, he's no shrinking violet.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 25, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, what made you think that anyone in the media cared about whether Harry Reid was a Mormon? It's not as if they paid any attention when Mitt Romney was running for president. Oh, that's right, they did not care about ANYTHING except his religion.

Posted by: JBaustian | January 25, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

angriestdogintheworld:

You realize that Sen. Ensign (R-NV) isn't even up for re-election this November, right? How about we stick with the topic of one Senator per thread?

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

better to go out proposing Healthcare for 30 million Americans than like the other Senator, Christian reicht winger bought to power using vice, embroiled in a sex scandal and silent about prostitution and gaming....

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 25, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

A great deal can change between now and election day - I guess Reid is simply saying, if he quits now, he can't win. If he stays in, he still has a chance.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 25, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

This may be one area where Buisness' new unfittered access to political cash donations may help the democrat. Reid has been a HUGE opponent of online gambling and other things that would take away from Nevada's hold on gambling. And due to his place as the senate majority leader he has a very prominent and powerful position to protect those entities. With Ensign relegated to the political wastelands Reid is really Nevada's best advocate in Washington.

Not that I approve of Reid as the Senate Majority leader and the job he has done, but I wouldn't count him out in anyway shape or form. Plus he plays dirty and he will find ever little thing either of these folks have done wrong and pummel them with their skelatons. In addition, as I have said many times the success or failure of the democrats will depend on the unemployment number in August. If it is around 8% the losses will be at a minimum if it is still around 10 then the incumbents of all grains will be in trouble. This is all reliant on the Tea-Party wing of the GOP not taking over with extreme candidates becasue if that happens they will shoot themselves in the foot.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 25, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

mbcnewspaper:

He DOES have a huge financial head-start on opponents though ...

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Right now, Reid's in the worst of both worlds. Despite a number of his public statements, Reid's not an idiot. He knows he's in trouble, has known it for some time, and knows that a good bit of his trouble is tied to his handling of the healthcare bill. A sympathetic view of Reid would be that he believed so deeply in the need for healthcare reform that he was willing to do anything and everything to get it passed, knowing full well it would likely result in the end of his own political career. But even if this falling on his own sword narrative has some legitimacy, it now seems pretty certain that the bill he was willing to sacrifice himself for will not get passed. It's the worst of both worlds.

Barring a huge misstep by Nevada Republicans, Reid will need to point to something very substantial and very popular that's happened this year in the Senate in order to survive. Otherwise, he'll be trying to ride a very big wave with no surfboard.

Posted by: mbcnewspaper | January 25, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to believe us though. Here's an article from someone who voted for Obama "How to Squander the Presidency in One Year / Hey, Conan Obama: How About Now? Can You Hear Us Now?"

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-7

"... Obama has now, in just a year's time, become the single most inept president perhaps in all of American history, and certainly in my lifetime. Never has so much political advantage been p*ssed away so rapidly, and what's more in the context of so much national urgency and crisis. It's astonishing, really, to contemplate how much has been lost in a single year ...

... Of course, I don't give a sh*t about Barack Obama anymore, other than my desire that really ugly things happen to him as payment in kind for the grandest act of betrayal we've seen since Benedict Arnold did his thing ..."

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

jtemple1:

The relevance is that Obama is a reverse-King Midas (everything he touches turns to cr@p ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Nice story, sounds like rw bs to me but it has nothing to do with the subject being discusse.

Posted by: jtemple1 | January 25, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I thought that Dingy Reid was Mormon, not Jewish?

Posted by: JakeD | January 25, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Did you happen to read the poll in it's entirety, or even the summation on the Kos frontpage?

"Incidentally, we're now polling the favorabilities of the two political parties:

Democratic Party
Favorable: 39
Unfavorable: 52

Among independents: 34/57

Republican Party

Favorable: 36
Unfavorable: 57

Among independents: 30/61

Both parties are looking rough right now, suggesting that whatever anti-Reid sentiment there is, it's not a pro-Republican one. It's an anti-establishment one."

Posted by: thecorinthian | January 25, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

A tale of two Presidents – I had the fortunate opportunity to attend six White House Holiday parties – five of them celebrating Hanukkah.

Entrance under President Bush was via tight WH security. After the coat check, you would follow the corridor to a stairway for ascension to the main foyer. The greeting there was by the music of the U.S. marine band playing music of either Christmas or Hanukkah. At each Hanukkah party I would remind the leader of the band that Jews love Christmas music also.

After exploring the many rooms of the first floor, we would be invited to the photo op line with President Bush and the First Lady. Military personnel confirmed the correct pronunciation of our name and then escorted us and introduced us to the First Couple. A brief, but very warm greeting would precede the photo and then good bye and back to the festivities. While the process is efficient and swift due to the sheer numbers, we never felt rushed and always felt much appreciated. The Bushes spent hours individually greeting their guests like this during every one of their 20 holiday parties each year.

Flash forward to the new Administration. Entering the main floor there is no greeting by the U.S. Marine band and very little element of music at all. All of the guests are herded up into the central area of the main floor only to wait more than 30 minutes for the President and the First Lady to descend the stairs and where the President reads a “heart-warming” message from a teleprompter. They then descend into the crowd and work the rope line for a short period before departing for the evening.

What a difference a year makes. It certainly could be construed as a prime example of the gracelessness of this President and indicative of his focus on himself versus others.

Posted by: drivl | January 25, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

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