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John Cornyn: I won't be talking policy with Sharron Angle

National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn on Wednesday downplayed the importance of new Nevada Senate nominee Sharron Angle's conservative issue positions, saying the race will continue to be a "referendum" on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Angle's positions have began to draw some attention as she emerged as the frontrunner in the Senate race over the past two weeks but Republicans haven't been anxious to talk about them. Cornyn said on the ABC/Washington Post "Topline" program that when he gets in touch with Angle, they won't be talking about issues but rather mechanics.

"We're going to talk about do you have the campaign manager that you need, do you have the pollster, and those sorts of things," said Cornyn. "Winning an election is not rocket science, but it does take some discipline and it does take some organization. That's what we will hope to add value to."

Asked about the fact that the NRSC had helped to recruit former state GOP Chairwoman Sue Lowden into the race, Cornyn said the committee supports the will of the voters.

"Now that they have spoken, we were solidly behind Sharron Angle," Cornyn said. "In the most recent public opinion polls, she's actually leading Harry Reid. So I don't think that this is any day for Harry to be giddy or popping champagne corks. I think he's in very deep trouble."

Much like Kentucky Senate nominee Rand Paul, Angle has taken several out-of-the-mainstream positions on issues like guns and foreign policy (The Fix's colleague Paul Kane has a great list of her greatest hits http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/06/five-ways-harry-reid-might-att.html).

Republicans hope that, unlike Paul, Angle will be able to avoid getting drawn into in-depth discussions of her views -- particularly on any national cable chat shows.

--Aaron Blake

By The Fix  |  June 9, 2010; 3:00 PM ET
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"since the economy continues to improve, and even here in Ohio..."

April 2010-unemployment rate in Ohio was 10.9%.
Obviously for idiotic Obots, that counts as a successful economic turnaround.

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 10, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

@kenpasadena: Obama "the most liberal president?". You're an idiot. A brass-bound monkey-suited idiot.

Obama is to the right of Nixon, for chrissake.

And the TP is extreme, neck and neck with late 30s Germany.

Anyone who talks about "the left" in America should be force fed hot asphalt. Go away, go read your comics.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 10, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Im actually rooting for Alvin Greene to win.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Im actually rooting for Alvin Greene to win.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Im actually rooting for Alvin Greene to win.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

The media fascination with all things Tea continues. The establishment media and the left want Americans to believe the Nazis are about to take over. They tried to do the same thing to Ronald Reagan.

Anything to the right of Barney Frank or Nancy Pelosi is "extreme."

Voters don't really care about those labels anyway or they wouldn't have elected Barack H. Obama (because he's the most liberal president elected in recent memory - hopefully the last).

The key factor is the economy and jobs. The May jobs report showed last month that no one is jumping for joy except census workers. Not even Obama is very optimistic that the jobs picture will turn around.

The country is in miserable shape. The Democrats are crazed with power.

The voters will have their revenge this fall. Maybe the headline can be "Voters stage bloodless clue."

Posted by: kenpasadena | June 9, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse


"No Excuses"- President Obama to Graduating High School Class

For those who believe otherwise, the BP well was approved and started on President Obama's "watch":

About.com-
"U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) won his bid to become President of the United States of America on November 4, 2008. He was sworn into office on Tuesday, January 20, 2009"

Wikipedia-
"February 2009 - BP files a 52 page exploration and environmental impact plan for the Macondo well, located in Mississippi Canyon Block 252 in the United States sector of the Gulf of Mexico about 41 miles (66 km) off the Louisiana coast, with the Minerals Management Service (MMS), an arm of the United States Department of the Interior that oversees offshore drilling. The plan stated that it was "unlikely that an accidental surface or subsurface oil spill would occur from the proposed activities".[7] In the event an accident did take place the plan stated that due to the well being 48 miles (77 km) from shore and the response capabilities that would be implemented, no significant adverse impacts would be expected.[7] The Department of the Interior exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling operation from a detailed environmental impact study after concluding that a massive oil spill was unlikely.[8][9]
February 15, 2010 - Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, owned by Transocean, begins drilling "

7. Burdeau, Cain; Mohr, Holbrook (2010-04-30). "Document: BP didn't plan for major oil spill". ABC News. Associated Press. Retrieved 2010-04-30.
8. Eilperin, Juliet (2010-05-05). "U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study". The Washington Post (The Washington Post Company). Retrieved 2010-05-16.
9. Jones, Jeffrey; Mason, Jeff. "RPT-BP's US Gulf project exempted from enviro analysis". Reuters. Retrieved 2010-05-16.

That's right Obama's fledgling administration's MMS took it upon itself to declare that the BP Deepwater Horizon well had a low probability of causing a massive oil spill....

Posted by: thecannula | June 9, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Just throw the lousy socialist out on his rear end, then do the same with the rest of the politbuto....Pelosi, Frank, Schumer, Dodd, Waxman, Boxer etc. And of course the tag team equivalent of Lenin / Stalin... Obama / Biden.

Posted by: jhr1 | June 9, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

"Since Obamacare isn't getting any more popular, and the economy continues to suck, Ms. Angle has a shot. Posted by: Azarkhan"

Of course, since the economy continues to improve, and even here in Ohio where we had despaired of a jobs turn around in our lifetimes the picture is looking better, that desperate Republican Hope is rapidly sinking. AND, note that Repeal and replace is disappearing as a war cry as people learn what they got in the package, and what they lose if we put the republicans back in charge. RAND Corp is out with an analysis that says, in effect, Harry and Nancy and Barry got about the maximum bang for the buck possible in the current political situation.

Tomorrow Discovery Channel will be out with a report on what really has been going on in the war room dealing with the blow out.

The truth is coming out, and it isn't good for the republican strategy of Obama must fail!.

Republicans will vote R, of course, but 65% of the electorate isn't R, and just maybe they will be able to Remember the 31st of October come election day. If B isn't a failure on 31 Oct, The Republican party is toast and marmalade for tea.

Posted by: ceflynline | June 9, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Angle: Let's see a pic of her and hear her state her positions in any media forum. Clearly, a pass go, collect $200 for Harry Reid.

Posted by: dudh | June 9, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

If the race becomes a referendum on Harry Reid, Obamacare, and the economy, Reid loses.
If the race becomes a referendum on Sharron Angle, she loses.

Since Obamacare isn't getting any more popular, and the economy continues to suck, Ms. Angle has a shot. But it's a slim one. Obviously the Democrats will pull out all the stops and pour in as much money as necessary to save the Senate Majority Leader's seat.

Posted by: Azarkhan | June 9, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

she'll put her foot in her mouth somewhere along the line......
or get an open mic she never expected...

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | June 9, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

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Hey, GOOD LUCK! "I've been instructed by my party leadership to say northing about policy and legislation but to adhere to uttering empty platitudes. Freedom, freedom, freedom, blah blah blah." Like hell. She's going to shoot off her idiot mouth with unhinged right-wing hate-crazed junk and free-market fundamentalism. If Reid wasn't already in the office he'd be ordering the drapes. Posted by: Noacoler"

To get that out of Angle, she would need a whole lot more personal discipline than she has ever shown. She is as likely to take off and wing it on a friendly sodden softball question from a docile crowd as she is to go for a high and tight brush back pitch from the outside world press.

Just one true believer asking her how much thhe t party can expect her to reduce taxes, or hopw soon she will be able to abolish medicare ought to do it. Short of locking her in a cell in a Discalced carmalite Convent somewhere in Tibet, she will have many a chance to say outrageous things, and since it will be a cheering, friendly crowd, she won't know how bad it was until days later, so when she zings out one throat slitting platitude, she is most likely to follow up with a dozen more to show that the first one wasn't a mistake.

But Cornyn is sure Harry can be had.

Posted by: ceflynline | June 9, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's hard to make the argument that America wants the teabaggers if they have to trick the voters into electing them. A guy like Bob McDonnell is perfectly happy running away from the right in order to get elected, but he wasn't selling a philosophy. The teabaggers are and they can't sell the philosophy by pretending not to have said philosophy in the first place.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

@LoveWaPo:

The whole ethos of the teabaggers is to be itching for a fight. Within 24 hours of winning nomination Rand Paul was giving rhetorical two-handed shoves to the chest, blasting out the most offensive notions he could think up, unable to refrain from desrtoying his chances, determined to shock and offend and outrage. This isn't in-cid-den-tal, it's systemic, and we can count on Angle to do the same.

These uh people seethe with hate, they can't contain it, they want to burn the store down and are all ready to say so.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Angle is already angling to avoid revealing her views in in-depth interviews! That is a huge red flag! I suspect the people of Nevada, over time, will learn enough about the woman voted by her colleagues as "Worst Legislator" and then Angle will become Reid's Angel in November.

Posted by: jim32 | June 9, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

One thing political consultants will be surprised at this year: people have already made up their minds.


Obama's "in your face" attitude has lost the country -


No one wants to give Obama a second chance - time and time again Obama was told that the American People DID NOT WANT HIS FAR LEFT POLICIES -


Anyway.


No one cares about Obama - they just can't wait for their chance to vote against the democrats - and then against Obama.


The democrats are responsible for Obama.


The democrats are going to be surprised that NO ONE in the country wants to give the democrats a second look either.

The democrats do NOT UNDERSTAND that government should be FOR THE PEOPLE.

Not for some left-wing wacko agenda.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Good luck getting the Paultard Nevadans that think they got Angle elected to shut their pieholes.

The Paultards in Nv, bought and paid for by Harry Reid.

Posted by: LoveWaPo | June 9, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

there are alot of conservatives


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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

ROFLMAO!! It's true. Brigade is very efficient in his meltdowns.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

drindl doesn't do a dozen posts in a row, briggy.

you show up and post like someone's holding a gun to your head

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

He's getting even more frantic as "Brigade," posting every two minutes. What a busy life.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:57 PM
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But compare the hour I've been here to the last 18 hours that you've been here. LOL.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

fbutler1 wrote,
"Democrats usually jump at the chance to explain how they come to their views."
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LOL. Like the Big O citing Jeremiah Wright as his mentor and later throwing him under the bus, saying he hadn't heard a mumbling word in all those 20 years. LOL. Can't we find one single liberal with a functioning brain?

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

He's getting even more frantic as "Brigade," posting every two minutes. What a busy life.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

So presumably, she will be all in favor of shipping Calfornia jobs to India too.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:07 PM
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Cheaper to leave them in California and let the illegals do them, just like under all the Dems.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

All my bullion is in those Chinese ounces and I was looking forward to a hunk of gold big enough to club someone with.

Instead, I watch my current holdings just going up and up in value.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 5:45 PM
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You'd better let someone drill your bullion and test it. You've been warned about those Chinatown pawn shops. Same place you got the deed for your hut . . . er, I mean palace . . . on the Ho Chi Minh trail.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"Not a single liberal I know personally or remotely would endorse that sentiment. Many, including me, would endorse a trial for war crimes and would view a death sentence from that trial as just . . ."

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BHO only, or uncle Joe, too?

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, if you don't like being called racists then stop waving signs showing the President with a bone in his nose.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 5:20 PM
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Everyone who has ever waved a sign showing the President with a bone in his nose, raise your hand.

Now, everyone who has ever said or implied that Republicans are racist, raise your hand.

Equivocation? Another liberal argument collapses.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

"LOL. Lib speak for Republicans can't win unless they win.

Posted by: Brigade "

One thing I love about Republicans. They really know how to squeeze the talking points out of a victory. After the win in Hawaii, you'd think they were the ones on a huge special election win streak.

Oh yeah, they also won the special election yesterday for GA-9. Congrats goes out to Republican Tom Graves for his victory over Republican Lee Hawkins.

I know it was a R v R election, but I think props should be given to the RNC to somehow not turn the seat over to the Dems.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Or the bales of $100 bills dropped in Iraq to bribe local people? Or the trillion that has been spent in Iraq so far, for what?

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 5:15 PM
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Still there aren't we?

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"These guys seem to think they can manipulate perceptions and change minds by posting on Internet blogs. As though anyone is going to be convinced to give the GOP another shot after reading but emotionally sick drivel loaded with childish name-calling. Like it doesn't have the exact opposite effect."
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Actually, the idea isn't to manipulate perceptions or change minds in the way you mean. The idea is to study some diseased minds at work, yours being the most seriously ravaged. Your rants go in the drawer marked Abbie Normal.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Like Cornyn said, getting elected isn't rocket science. Hell, he got elected, didn't he? And if there's enough know-nothing in Texas to elect THAT dummy, surely, there are enough in Nevada to do the same for Angle. It's very telling that Republicans want "discipline", that is, for their candidates to shut up about their views and potential policy ideas. Democrats usually jump at the chance to explain how they come to their views. It becomes ever more crystal clear how repulsive Republicans and their tactics are. Their audacity knows no bounds.

Posted by: fbutler1 | June 9, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

That's a slanderous misrepresentation, Briggy.

There are TWO conservatives posting here using many different names.

You don't vary the style anywhere near enough for anyone to believe you.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

'Just imagine if all your impressions of conservatives were based on what you read here in posts *from* conservatives.'

That they are all insane/simple minded/can't spell or reason.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:24 PM
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If you're drindl or Noacoler, you'd also have to imagine that all conservatives are really just one person using many different names.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh, look, now Brigade is going to respond to every post since the beginning of the thread, excepting only the ones he wrote under his other nom du plumes.

With a grade-school level insult at the end of each.

If there are any lurkers, take note, this is exemplary of the conservative maturity level.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

It certainly shows, doesn't it? Republicans can't win a Federal level election unless they split the vote or have a candidate much more liberal than the rest of their party.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 4:15 PM
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LOL. Lib speak for Republicans can't win unless they win.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

"Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle earlier in her career spoke out strongly against fluoride, the substance known alternately for improving dental health and as a Communist plot to undermine Western democracy."

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

precious:

"The peculiar ideology of Sharron Angle, the Republican nominee challenging Sen. Harry Reid in Nevada, is perhaps no better illustrated than by her embrace of the patriot group Oath Keepers, whose membership of uniformed soldiers and police take an oath to refuse orders they see as unconstitutional -- including enforcement of gun laws, violations of states' sovereignty, and "any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps."

Back in April, Angle told TPMDC she was a member of the Oath Keepers at a press gaggle in Washington. "

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

If Reid wasn't already in the office he'd be ordering the drapes.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 3:47 PM
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If looks mean anything, they should be measuring the old goat for a box.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans hope that, unlike Paul, Angle will be able to avoid getting drawn into in-depth discussions of her views -- particularly on any national cable chat shows."


In other words, if they can just get her to shut up and not talk about what she might actually do in office she might get elected.

Good plan.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 3:39 PM
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Better stay away from Rachel Maddow unless she's into really kinky sex.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

What's the Republican party's message to Sharron Angle, their freshly minted Senate candidate in Nevada? Get disciplined. Quick.

"When you're running statewide like this, you know, it is a different level," Sen. John Ensign (R-NV) told me this afternoon after a policy meeting with the Republican caucus. "And especially to the extent there's going to be a lot more scrutiny because you're running against the Majority Leader, so she's going to have to exercise really severe discipline.... She and her team are going to have to really think about that."

Something Ensign should know about...

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Don't they have debates or anything in Nevada?

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 3:26 PM
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No one can stay awake during a debate involving Dungy Harry.

Posted by: Brigade | June 9, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"Gresham Barrett, who is campaigning against Nikki Haley for the Republican nomination for South Carolina governor, released the first ad in the runoff election today. Called "Shake Up Columbia," the ad features a drill sergeant who claims his "grandma could run that place better."

The drill sergeant also calls Barrett a "Christian family man who won't embarrass us,"

hehheh.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

How considerate of our newest CEO-to-public office wannabe to write her own attack ads.

That stuff is just toxic.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Carleton on jobs:

'Fiorina has a long history of having callous views on the job security of working-class Americans. During her time as HP CEO, she was a fierce defender of off-shoring American jobs, referring to the practice as “right-shoring.” In 2004, she proclaimed that “there is no job that is America’s God-given right anymore.”

So presumably, she will be all in favor of shipping Calfornia jobs to India too.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

6PM and methboi is just waking up.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

One thing political consultants will be surprised at this year: people have already made up their minds.

Obama's "in your face" attitude has lost the country -


No one wants to give Obama a second chance - time and time again Obama was told that the American People DID NOT WANT HIS FAR LEFT POLICIES -

Anyway.

No one cares about Obama - they just can't wait for their chance to vote against the democrats - and then against Obama.

The democrats are responsible for Obama.

The democrats are going to be surprised that NO ONE in the country wants to give the democrats a second look either.


The democrats do NOT UNDERSTAND that government should be FOR THE PEOPLE.


Not for some left-wing wacko agenda.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

One thing political consultants will be surprised at this year: people have already made up their minds.

Obama's "in your face" attitude has lost the country -


No one wants to give Obama a second chance - time and time again Obama was told that the American People DID NOT WANT HIS FAR LEFT POLICIES -

Anyway.

No one cares about Obama - they just can't wait for their chance to vote against the democrats - and then against Obama.

The democrats are responsible for Obama.

The democrats are going to be surprised that NO ONE in the country wants to give the democrats a second look either.


The democrats do NOT UNDERSTAND that government should be FOR THE PEOPLE.


Not for some left-wing wacko agenda.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey zouk, I'm really disappointed.

You said that gold was going to drop to $800. That made me postively wet, I was hoping it would happen so I could snap up a kilo bar. All my bullion is in those Chinese ounces and I was looking forward to a hunk of gold big enough to club someone with.

Instead, I watch my current holdings just going up and up in value.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Here is the differnce, leap ol' beanie.

Maybe someone waved such signs, I have no idea, I've never seen one but let's assume for the sake or argument alone that some alleged liberal somewhere waved a sign calling for Bush's execution (with 300 million in this country, half of them with IQs under 100, you can probably find just about anything).

Not a single liberal I know personally or remotely would endorse that sentiment. Many, including me, would endorse a trial for war crimes and would view a death sentence from that trial as just, but a call for his assassination? Entirely beyond the pale. Anyone who carried such a sign at any liberal gathering I've ever been to would have it torn from his hands and smashed and the sign holder shunned.

ON THE OTHER HAND the tea party cretins with the bone-nose signs and the swastikas and hammer&sickles and the ni66er signs seem quite accepted, quite tolerated, and, dare I say it QUITE WELCOME.

You can call that tolerance of diverse viewpoints and make some noise about "PC," but it looks to me and others like racists are perfectly comfortable in the Tea and Republican Parties.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Didn't bumble used to post a lot about the Man Boy Love thing?

yeeeesh.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 9, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Awww

Ped found the one person on the planet who will tolerate her for a couple of minutes.

then's its back to the emptiness, the watching and waiting. the stalking. the gym. the showers. the longing for a foreign country where she can start all over again and no one will know........

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

wow, zouk is positively *frantic*!

Let's see if we can Salieri him into a nice public meltdown, maybe even a coronary!

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, if you don't like being called racists then stop waving signs showing the President with a bone in his nose.

Posted by: Noacoler
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Do I call ALL liberals murderers because I can show dozens of pictures of signs calling for the death of GWB ????

Posted by: leapin | June 9, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

hahahahaha

drivl thinks anyone actually takes her idiocy seriously.

you are a laughingstock old goat, a cartoon of a loony liberal leftist stuck in some time warp where Obungler saved the planet.

It's like teaching a cat calculus. there is simply no there there. all the years of scrolling through "Think Progress" have obviated both.

you can't even support yourself without intervention. you "go" to work every day transfering all that liberal knowledge from think progress to The Fix, what a special gift that is.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

No no drindl, tyhat isn't fair, don't say the Iraq war was for *nothing*

http://tinyurl.com/ycop5bl

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

'drunken liberal spending' -- like the $500 million bush spent on having Halliburton install tennis courts, saunas, batting cages and golf courses for the staff at Guantanamo?

Or the bales of $100 bills dropped in Iraq to bribe local people? Or the trillion that has been spent in Iraq so far, for what?

Posted by: drindl
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Yes Bush is guilty of drunken liberal spending.

Posted by: leapin | June 9, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"We don't hear that conservatives want to perserve the rightful role of the constitution."

Becuase that would be false. You guys don't care about the Constitution any more than fundamentalist Christians care about the New Testament, preferring teh juicy bits in Timothy and Leviticus. You guys talk about the Constitution as though you've studied it and really you're just naming it to give credence to unhinged ideas that in no way derive from it.

Not the mention that the world has changed in lots of fundamental ways that the Constitution in no way foresaw. Do you still run DOS?

"We don't hear that conservatives are concerned by drunken liberal spending. We hear "racist".

Well, if you don't like being called racists then stop waving signs showing the President with a bone in his nose.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

'drunken liberal spending' -- like the $500 million bush spent on having Halliburton install tennis courts, saunas, batting cages and golf courses for the staff at Guantanamo?

Or the bales of $100 bills dropped in Iraq to bribe local people? Or the trillion that has been spent in Iraq so far, for what?

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I gave up trying to piece together even one intelligent thought from drivl.

Looks like Ped is haeding down that road too. Just day after day of 'evil repubs' amd 'loony taxpayers' and other assorted kookiness that doesn't even merit attention from the white coat guys.

Was it preordained or did the embarrassing utterly inept Obungler precipitate the launch?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Various racist and ignorant rants

E

Don't think the Ped has a third idea, again.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

@GJJ: I don't think offending the stalwarts is a consideration. Conservatives are accustomed to seeing their hatreds acknowledged in dog-whistle, knowing full well that their views can't win out in the open and hoping to get them in by stealth.

So we don't hear about "Latinos are filthy subhuman beasts," we hear about "porous borders." We don't hear about "blacks get all the breaks because liberals want their votes," we hear about "quotas." You can bet that the nutjobs are getting the message loud and clear, and you can bet that Angle will be tooting at 30 KHz for the next five months.

Posted by: Noacoler
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We don't hear that conservatives want to perserve the rightful role of the constitution. We don't hear that conservatives are concerned by drunken liberal spending. We hear "racist".

Posted by: leapin | June 9, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

@GJJ: I don't think offending the stalwarts is a consideration. Conservatives are accustomed to seeing their hatreds acknowledged in dog-whistle, knowing full well that their views can't win out in the open and hoping to get them in by stealth.

So we don't hear about "Latinos are filthy subhuman beasts," we hear about "porous borders." We don't hear about "blacks get all the breaks because liberals want their votes," we hear about "quotas." You can bet that the nutjobs are getting the message loud and clear, and you can bet that Angle will be tooting at 30 KHz for the next five months.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

@GJJ: motes and beams.

I don't see hardly anything coming from liberal posters here or elsewhere that comes close to the "Obungler" and "democrap socialist" and feminizing name-calling that we get from the GOP trolls.

Yeah we get one or two who write "Rethuglican" and stuff like that, which is childish, but it's clearly exceptional while the "Obimbo" stuff is clearly the rule.

And then there is the comparative reasoning power, utterly absent in almost all the conservatives.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

yeah, he talks an awful lot about hanging around playgrounds with toys and candy...
and was fantasizing about bestiality on another thread.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

@drindl: Funny you should mention, Charles Blow at the NYT had a column a few days ago about the rapid decline in viewing gay sexuality as immoral, especially among men. One of the reasons he speculated on is that so many prominent national virulent homophobes have turned out to be closet cases . Ted Haggard and that guy at FRC and his "baggage handler" he found at that site that, yup, zouk seems to be familiar with. Smirk.

Men who are actually heterosexual usually have their work cut out for them getting laid, little time left over to worry about what gays might be doing in bed. Yet zouk seems overwhelmingly preoccupied with it, and thinks about much more and in more graphic visualization than I do.

He's probably a coprophage.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler, I would endeavor to say that your impressions of any group would be bad if you take everything you know about that group from an anonymous online message board.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | June 9, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

If efforts are being made to strip Sharron Angle's campaign of some of her more controversial positions, and it sounds like they are, it will provide an interesting study. For now, of course, it makes sense; John Cornyn and his committee are, I would imagine, going to evaluate Angle's principles and see what they can use and what they can't. At least in the days following the primary, this looks less like a scrubbing of Angle's positions and more like downtime as some re-evaluation is done. The more interesting stuff comes later.

We all realize, of course, that none of the examples given -- abolishing Medicare and the U.S. Department of Education, etc. -- was even remotely realistic as a campaign promise, because Angle would never get the votes in the Senate to move forward on any of them. So even if Angle is dead-set on doing those things, it won't make a lick of difference. So what does the Republican Senatorial Committee eventually do? If those proposals are determined to be popular with the electorate as a whole, does the RSC give Angle's campaign the go-ahead to put them back on the website, knowing they'll never happen? And if those proposals are determined to be unpopular with the electorate as a whole, does the RSC ask Angle to leave them off her website -- thus risking offending her most stalwart supporters, the Republican base, all the while knowing that they'll probably come out eventually anyway when somebody tracks down the archived version of the website?

Posted by: GJonahJameson | June 9, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

'Just imagine if all your impressions of conservatives were based on what you read here in posts *from* conservatives.'


That they are all insane/simple minded/can't spell or reason.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Probably the strain of maintaining different posting styles in his stealth monikers is taking a serious toll. Ever read "A Scanner Darkly?" It's like zouk is Arctor / Fred on Substance D.

He's gonna pop any day now.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I think he's a closet queen, noa, what do you think?

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

These guys seem to think they can manipulate perceptions and change minds by posting on Internet blogs. As though anyone is going to be convinced to give the GOP another shot after reading but emotionally sick drivel loaded with childish name-calling. Like it doesn't have the exact opposite effect.

Just imagine if all your impressions of conservatives were based on what you read here in posts *from* conservatives.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's do the nation a favor and find Angle's archives, what say?

Yeah, he seems to be getting perilously close to the edge, noa. Getting more frantic every day.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Ped's dirty little desires always manage to bubble up to the surface.

I'll tell you what I told the other girls - no thanks, take your obsession over to rentaboy. I don't do ugly or stupid but expecially AND stupid.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

zook lost it when that survey came out a month or two ago saying that Americans overwhelmingly blame Bush for the state of the economy.

It certainly shows, doesn't it? Republicans can't win a Federal level election unless they split the vote or have a candidate much more liberal than the rest of their party.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

looks like zouk is getting ready to blow

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Direct link to drivl's "brain"

skip the dingbattery and head straight to the source:

http://thinkprogress.org/

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"The historical revisionism is starting already:

'The original policy positions touted on Sharron Angle’s campaign website throughout the Nevada Republican Primary were removed less than 12 hours after her victory. Up until this morning, the site contained dozens of radical statements, including Angle’s desire to abolish the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Education, to withdraw the U.S. from the United Nations, and to privatize Social Security and abolish Medicare.'

Posted by: drindl"

Like certain Model Mayhem sites, I'm certain the original Angle site must be archived somewhere.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

And more Lisa Murkowski:

"In a startling speech given to the Oil and Gas Association Board of Directors on May 7, 2008, Murkowski asked the oil industry to “mobilize all your resources” for a massive campaign to “beat[] back legislation and regulations.” To combat “the growing hysteria over fossil fuel use,” Murkowski suggested that the oil industry “fund a major campaign to open areas of America to environmentally sensitive oil and gas exploration.”

Murkowski commended the oil industry for “fight[ing] off efforts” to “add more red tape to gain drilling permits” and made clear that although she is facing “considerable and growing opposition” from Alaskan fishermen and whalers, her allegiance is with the oil industry in opening new drilling."

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Liberals, the envy of families everywhere:

One week after former Vice President Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, dropped their separation bombshell, friends of the family quietly confirmed to PEOPLE on Wednesday that the eldest of the couple's four children, daughter Karenna Gore Schiff, is separated from her husband of 12 years. Karenna, 36, and Andrew "Drew" Schiff, 44, "have been separated for a couple of months and in marriage counseling," says a friend of the couple, who live in New York and have three small children: Wyatt, 10; Anna, 8; and Oscar, 3.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

And here's Carly Fiorina's positions:

"Today on Capitol Hill, Americans for Prosperity, the corporate front group founded and funded by David Koch of the oil conglomerate Koch Industries, hosted an event to urge the passage of Sen. Lisa Murkowski’s (R-AK) resolution to gut the Clean Air Act’s power to regulate carbon emissions. Several Republican Senators came to the AFP event to encourage support for the resolution, which was drafted by lobbyists from the coal and oil industry.

After the event, ThinkProgress spoke to one of the speakers, Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK), about his support for Carly Fiorina (R-CA), the U.S. Senate candidate to emerge from the primary last night. Inhofe gave Fiorina an early endorsement, and his nephew, Fred Davis, created the infamous “demon sheep” ads for Fiorina’s campaign.

Inhofe, who has been described as Washington’s “the last flat-earther” for his strident denial of climate change, said Fiorina “is supporting what I am supporting.” He elaborated that Fiorina both supports eviscerating the EPA’s ability to enforce the Clean Air Act, and that she is supportive of his beliefs “in terms of the whole global warming hoax.” He then added that he is “very proud of her."

Sounding a lot like Sharron Angle, hmm.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The historical revisionism is starting already:

'The original policy positions touted on Sharron Angle’s campaign website throughout the Nevada Republican Primary were removed less than 12 hours after her victory. Up until this morning, the site contained dozens of radical statements, including Angle’s desire to abolish the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Education, to withdraw the U.S. from the United Nations, and to privatize Social Security and abolish Medicare.'

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"Finally! A picture of 37 has been found:

http://gawker.com/5559349/finally-obamas-british-past-connected-to-scandalous-british-present


Posted by: Bondosan "

One thing I'll give the teabaggers. They always surprise me with their knowledge of random bits of history and trivia. Who knew that Kenya was a Brit colony in 1961?

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Another Day of Ped BINGO

Economics is spooky and scary

P

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like what John Kasich is doing in Ohio -- offer as little as possible in the way of ideas, and hope you can sell voters on a message of "Vote for the guy who isn't in office already." Not a bad idea after the backlash against Rand Paul and the suspicions on the Republican side that, given enough airtime, Sharron Angle will torpedo her candidacy by saying something stupid. Harry Reid is a polarizing figure right now, and in theory, Angle could stand a good chance of winning just by being the person in the race who's not Reid.

But that strategy can backfire. It's contingent on the candidate not being defined beyond his or her status as "the other guy," and the candidate is not the only one who can provide that definition. The strategy has been backfiring for Kasich in recent weeks here in Ohio; absent any significant degree of self-definition on Kasich's part, Gov. Ted Strickland's campaign has been working to define Kasich, and obviously, it's not been defining him in a very nice way.

The same thing could happen to Angle. Reid is already a known commodity in Nevada, and Angle's not going to be able to tell voters much about him that they don't already know. But Reid is savvy, and if Angle doesn't define herself, he'll do the defining for her -- and she won't much care for what he comes up with.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | June 9, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"I love that sea-foam"

That reminds me; I have a stuck lifter in the Jeep.

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 9, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bondosan | June 9, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey, GOOD LUCK!

"I've been instructed by my party leadership to say northing about policy and legislation but to adhere to uttering empty platitudes. Freedom, freedom, freedom, blah blah blah."

Like hell. She's going to shoot off her idiot mouth with unhinged right-wing hate-crazed junk and free-market fundamentalism. If Reid wasn't already in the office he'd be ordering the drapes.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 9, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Don't they have debates or anything in Nevada?

Posted by: DDAWD


you should ask Democrats if they have town halls. why are they ducking voters all summer?

duh, even DDAWD can answer this one.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans hope that, unlike Paul, Angle will be able to avoid getting drawn into in-depth discussions of her views -- particularly on any national cable chat shows."


In other words, if they can just get her to shut up and not talk about what she might actually do in office she might get elected.

Good plan.

Posted by: drindl | June 9, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Cornyn is so fashion forward! I love that sea-foam, silvery tie; it says summer. I bet he got that at Neiman's.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

How in the world will she be able to avoid discussion on her views until November anyways? Don't they have debates or anything in Nevada?

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

If I were a Democrat, I would not want to get pulled into discusssing any of Obunglers policies. that is certainly a sure fire way to lose an election. Unless you lie of course.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 9, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama thinks he is Professor-in-chief


Completely out-of-touch in his ivory tower


Completely out-of-touch in his thinking about legal frivolities in the world of terrorist incidents


Completely out-of-touch about the federal deficit


Completely out-of-touch when he said he was in Louisiana a month ago talking to fishermen in the rain.


It is just horrible for this nation to have such an INEXPERIENCED AND UNQUALIFIED person in the White House.


One who appears interested only in his ego and his far left-wing agenda -


Instead of actually governing the nation - which is the job.


Just another person who doesn't want to do his job.....

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 9, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

If adding organization is Cornyn's goal, he might get an especially big bang for his buck. Angle's organization is supposedly woefully lacking with very little in the way of staff.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 9, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

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