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MA-Senate: Markey Out, Field Solidified

Update, 9:12 p.m.: Jmart is reporting Card is out.

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As my colleague Paul Kane is reporting, Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Ed Markey has decided against running in the special election for the seat of the late Sen. Ted Kennedy.

Markey, the senior member of the state's House delegation, would have been a major player in the special -- due in large part to the $3 million he could have transferred into a Senate account -- and, without him in the running, the Democratic field is close to set.

State Attorney General Martha Coakley, the first candidate in the contest, is regarded as the current favorite -- spurred by her statewide name identification and her status as the only woman in the race. (EMILY's List endorsed her candidacy yesterday.)

Reps. Stephen Lynch and Michael Capuano are also running. Lynch will run as a son of South Boston while Capuano is already trying to lay claim to the Kennedy legacy. Both men will try to run as the "Boston" candidate.

Two candidates -- Rep. John Tierney and City Year co-founder Alan Khazei -- continue to ponder bids. But, neither would likely be in the first tier of candidates.

On the Republican side, former Bush White House chief of staff Andy Card wants to run but it remains unclear whether he will ultimately pull the trigger. State Sen. Scott Brown is interested but has said he will defer to Card.

The special primary is set for Dec. 8 while the general election will go off on Jan. 19.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 11, 2009; 7:19 PM ET
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Well when you have an entire political wing whose whole sense of self-worth is based on being white and in the majority, and who see the country turning brown, it's not hard to forecast that those losers are going to be angry and scared.

The R stands for Racist now.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 14, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

God help any WASP getting sick in Mexico as WASP's are terrified of Mexicans in USA getting any health care. They used to do that to blacks but now the Mexicans are their whipping boy. On economic terms WASP's are barely ahead of Hispanics. Terrified of falling below Hispanics WASP's are mounting a full scale assault on Hispanics and especially Mexicans. That tactic in California by dumb Gov Pete Wilson (R) changed California from a solid Republican state into a very solid Democrat state.

Posted by: mascmen7 | September 14, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | September 14, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Not as "gutsy" as someone carrying a pro-life sign in Michigan:

http://www.ncregister.com/daily/pro-life_advocate_shot_in_michigan/

Posted by: JakeD | September 14, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q7XH8lfGMc

Wow, this is gutsy. Someone carrying a "Public Option Now" sign through the DC tea party.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 14, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Unless, of course, the earth IS less than 10,000 years old.

Posted by: JakeD | September 14, 2009 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Between lovesick Governor Moonbeam and Congresscaveman Wilson, South Carolina displaces Kansas as the State of Disgrace. Teaching Christian cosmogeny fables in high school barely budges the meter compared to these clowns.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 14, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Stephen T. Colbert would be proud.

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/wilsons-outburst-merely-peep.html

Little history on South Carolina's history of trying to thwart progress going all the way back to the Rev War

Posted by: DDAWD | September 13, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

They would if it just wasn't So communist. And barry wasn't So weak.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Again, this would be funny if it were a different country. You Dems have a larger majority in Congress than GWB ever did. Pass Obamacare then!

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

There is only one kind of person whose opinion is of less concern to anyone than a Republican, and that would be a Republican in a mental institution.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

If Barry was tough enough, or smart enough, or clever enough, or deceptive enough he would already have his bill. But he is a wimpy rank amatuer. It seems he has surrendered or apologized to everyone but the repubs. Stand by.
You can repackage the lies and the spending but the stench can't be disguised.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

People who think that all divisions are reconcilable need to grow up. It all sounds well and good to speak of respecting opponents and keeping open minds and eschewing "eliminationist" rhetoric but really this is naive conceit.

Like those who offer bright-eyed happy-face reconciliations of creationism and evolution, that because some people refuse to give up supernatural beliefs we need to interleave aboriginal animism in with physical science.

President Obama still entertains bipartisan get-long-with-everyone notions months past conclusive evidence that this is pure folly.

Get over it, Mr. President. Give a speech telling Republicans to go screw themselves and get on with the nation's business.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

@G&T: I re-read Frank Rich's incredible column. BHO needs to have a Let-Bartlett-be-Bartlett staff retreat real soon and put Rich's column on the overhead projector for the staff. And he MUST shake up his monochromatic communications team; they ain't makin' it so far. Bring some grey beard out of retirement: the Kalb brothers, Rather, Moyers...some reality-based adult with journalism experience.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 13, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

The Rich column is a must-read. I hope President Obama has read it. He needs to show more anger and he needs to forcefully tell the GOP that they have had their shot at governance and cooperation, they've blown it, and now they too are vomit on the sidewalk and will be ignored from now on.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 2:54 PM
____________
That was MoDo's take as well today. She seems to think his male and pale aides are shielding BHO from the real-world dynamics. When they say: I will vote against anything you're for, regardless of its merit, because you're a _________, I'd kinda take their word for it. I still believe BHO cannot allow Faux News and hate radio to freely attack him 24/7 with bigotry and lies about his policies; some pushback is mandatory. If he doesn't know how, bring in the Hillarians. They know.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 13, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Confederate flags?!? How out of touch is that? Racist iconography from 140 years ago!

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

The noun version of "inept" is "ineptitude," not "ineptness." Use a dictionary if you don't know even ONE language.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The Rich column is a must-read. I hope President Obama has read it. He needs to show more anger and he needs to forcefully tell the GOP that they have had their shot at governance and cooperation, they've blown it, and now they too are vomit on the sidewalk and will be ignored from now on.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Signs yesterday included Obama riding a white baby, as a terrorist, as a murderous dictator {Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao] as a 'bloodsucking alien,' and many, many confederate flags.

As I said, biggest KKK meeting ever.

Posted by: drindl | September 13, 2009 1:41 PM
________
@d: Goes w/out saying the Washington Post reported on none of that. I have to agree with MoDo, Frank Rich, and Congressman Clyburn (who saved BHO in SC during the primary): BHO has to pushback...hard. The summer was a total loss for 44.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 13, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

If only you liberals could discredit any and all protesters as much as dem politicians. You got a long way to go.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Signs yesterday included Obama riding a white baby, as a terrorist, as a murderous dictator {Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao] as a 'bloodsucking alien,' and many, many confederate flags.

As I said, biggest KKK meeting ever.

Posted by: drindl | September 13, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Frank Rich today on why BHO needs to pushback against the hate:

Excerpt:

"THE day before he gave his latest brilliant speech, Barack Obama repeated a well-worn mantra to a television interviewer: “My job is not to be distracted by the 24-hour news cycle.” The time has come for him to expand that job description. His White House has a duty to push back against the 24-hour news cycle, every 24 hours if necessary, when it threatens to derail his agenda, the nation’s business, or both. This was a silly summer, as wasteful in its way as the summer of 2001, when Washington dithered over the now-forgotten Gary Condit scandal while Al Qaeda plotted. The president deserves his share of the blame. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13rich.html?_r=1

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 13, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

ROFLOL!!!

Posted by: drindl | September 13, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

No doubt there are some racists, but I am not.

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

It has nothing to do with me: Most RESPECTED mainstream journalists (MoDo, Frank Rich, Gene Robinson, Bob Herbert, et al.) say the issues raised by the tenthers, birthers, 9/12ers, teabaggers, secessionists, 2d Amendment-ers, and deathers are racial proxies for direct racist attacks on our 44th President. [This space, described in a Columbia Journalism Review article as a Drudge "imitator," sadly to my knowledge, has not weighed in on this important matter.]

A teaching moment from the NYT's Frank Rich:

"“IT is time to water the tree of liberty” said the sign carried by a gun-toting protester milling outside President Obama’s town-hall meeting in New Hampshire two weeks ago. The Thomas Jefferson quote that inspired this message, of course, said nothing about water: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” That’s the beauty of a gun — you don’t have to spell out the “blood.”

The protester was a nut. America has never had a shortage of them. But what’s Tom Coburn’s excuse? Coburn is a Republican senator from Oklahoma, where 168 people were murdered by right-wing psychopaths who bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995. Their leader, Timothy McVeigh, had the Jefferson quote on his T-shirt when he committed this act of mass murder. Yet last Sunday, when asked by David Gregory on “Meet the Press” if he was troubled by current threats of “violence against the government,” Coburn blamed not the nuts but the government."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/23/opinion/23rich.html?_r=1

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 13, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

After he gives free Obamacare to illegal aliens, how about free cars and plasma TVs?

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

P.P.S. to whomever I was discussing the new Government Motors money-back guarantee:

You can check out the full terms and conditions (none of the limitations you lied about are included ; )

http://www.gm.com/guarantee

You can even do this and then have someone you know buy it for real as a USED car. Talk about losing money every way possible. I am seriously thinking about doing this -- hopefully, lots of people who would have rented a car within the next two months instead take full advantage of this program -- how much more money will pResident Obama need to borrow from China to keep GM afloat?

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

P.S. to scrivener50:

if that's true, I certainly hope it can shoot down ICBMs too : )

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Maureen Dawd "seems?" to forget that Sen. Reid DID call President Bush a "liar". Like snowbama said, this would be funny if it were a different country.

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

WTC TOWERS, BUILDING 7 CAME DOWN AS THE RESULT OF A 'STAR WARS'- TYPE DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPON, NOT FROM THE FIRE OR THE PLANES, SAYS NOTED MECHANICAL ENGINEER

My attempts to post the following link to the scientist's web site were blocked earlier, leading me to give more credence to the theory that a massive cover-up continues. So I will try again. Here is the link:

http://drjudywood.com

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 13, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

What Obama spent is minuscule compared to Bush

aRe you really that fact challenged. Barry spent more already than the sum total of US history

why do you think everyone already knows Barry is a liar, just like the dem exec before him. When the truth comes out, dems lose elections.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Barry is going to have to apologize or surrender now to north Korea. Anyone left?

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Nice try Joe. If you can only fake out the journos
into thinking that anyone who disagrees is simply a racist. End of discussion. No need to cover cost, liberty, choice, abortion, illegals.
You know the hard stuff which confounds fools.
But ultimaty it shows how weak you are, how the promise of hope, change, post racism and bipartisanship is empty.

But this blog is hardly the place to point out liberal idiocy.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I am with you GoldandTanzanite-- if this demonstration were really about taxes and the deficit, then where were these people over the last eight years of GeorgeWBush? He is the one who blew all the Clinton surplus. What Obama spent is minuscule compared to Bush's wars, tax cuts, prescription drug benefits and his own bailout. Where were the protests then? Who do they think is the one whose policies brought on the recession?

I really think this is all just hatred. I don't think any other Democrat who proposed the same policies (even Hillary) would get this same vitriol. And the Republicans who are egging this on are irresponsible at best.

Posted by: msame | September 13, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Maureen Dowd, in Pulitzer Prize fashion, sums up the summer dominated by anti-BHO sociopaths today and urges BHO to pushback:

Excerpt(s):

"Surrounded by middle-aged white guys — a sepia snapshot of the days when such pols ran Washington like their own men’s club — Joe Wilson yelled “You lie!” at a president who didn’t.

But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: You lie, boy!
***
The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.

***
I tended to agree with some Obama advisers that Democratic presidents typically have provoked a frothing response from paranoids — from Father Coughlin against F.D.R. to Joe McCarthy against Truman to the John Birchers against J.F.K. and the vast right-wing conspiracy against Bill Clinton.

But Wilson’s shocking disrespect for the office of the president — no Democrat ever shouted “liar” at W. when he was hawking a fake case for war in Iraq — convinced me: Some people just can’t believe a black man is president and will never accept it.

***

Now he’s at the center of a period of racial turbulence sparked by his ascension. Even if he and the coterie of white male advisers around him don’t choose to openly acknowledge it, this president is the ultimate civil rights figure — a black man whose legitimacy is constantly challenged by a loco fringe.

***

Clyburn had a warning for Obama advisers who want to forgive Wilson, ignore the ignorant outbursts and move on: “They’re going to have to develop ways in this White House to deal with things and not let them fester out there. Otherwise, they’ll see numbers moving in the wrong direction.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13dowd.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 13, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Regardless of numbers or motivation, liberals still in campaign mode are missing the essential legislative heft.

The voters have seen the enemy and it is bho. The spending, the takeover, the abortions, the illegals, the death panels, the lack of tort reform, the paucity of real choice- state regs.

You simply can't continue on empty lies and campaign promises when your short tenure is already so revealing.

Barry is now in the gutter with pelosi and Reid accusing, blaming, lying, spinning, dealing, anything but leading and including. Some hope and change.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Now that we have the definition of paucity cleared up we can say the following about yesterday's demonstration in DC:

It was sparsely attended
Freedomworks’ paucity of membership was displayed
TEAbaggers revealed the meagerness of their numbers
The number of demonstrators was mingy
The disparate turnout exposed an alarmingly jumbled agenda
The event was too meager to gain much attention
The dogs do bark, but the dearth of numbers failed to impress
Fox scared an insufficient number of people
The small crowd was, indeed, blessedly peaceful.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 13, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Joe replies racism and lunacy. Avoids actual debate. Is it 4th and 40 deep in your own territory with seconds in the game, two scores needed? Time for the hail Mary Joe.

Even with 20 people on the field, liberal ineptness has lost the game already. Fumbles and interceptions on every play. Maybe if bho had qb'd before?

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Margerat probably thinks msdnc is dominating the ratings and is fair and balanced.

The us mall full of peaceful
protesters is worthy
of a sneer.

Wonder why the angry liberal is on the outs, even with all three branches, can't force it.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

It's sad the Washington Post decided to give these lunatics front-page coverage today. Of course, the article suggested they were to protest "taxes" and the federal deficit. Yeah, right. HuffPo's reporting was far more informative: it included a photo of some sociopathic "tax protester" wearing a hooded black sheet. Fox's live coverage was comical--they cut in tight on their reporters (including one guy who provides a "news" service) so you couldn't see the hate antics and signs of the mentals standing behind them. Don't care what they call themselves--tenthers, birthers, deathers, teabaggers, 9/12ers--it still just the same ol' "stormfront"/VonBrunn crowd.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 13, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

pau⋅ci⋅ty
  [paw-si-tee] Show IPA
Use paucity in a Sentence
–noun
1. smallness of quantity; scarcity; scantiness: a country with a paucity of resources.
2. smallness or insufficiency of number; fewness.
Origin:
1375–1425; late ME paucite < L paucitās fewness, deriv. of paucus few; see -ity


There is so much liberals THINK they know.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Liberals actually think disputing the meaning of words solves the inability to confront the issues. Sound familiar. The meaning of is. This magic trick is to draw your attention from the other lies. Remember these : pro life, global warming, culture of corruption, stimulus, cap and trade, government takeover, low unemployment, close gitmo, no illegals, competence of bho, voting present, leadership, surrender and appeasement, downright mean, new era, bipartisan, pay go.

It would be funny if it was a different country.

Posted by: snowbama | September 13, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

After yesterdays demonstration in DC everyone has seen how small this noisy disruptive crowd really is.

Fox, Glenn Beck and Freedomworks couldn't pull bigger numbers than that? Freedomworks has exposed its meager and disparate membership for what it is. There wasn't any local groundswell of conservative Virginians or South Carolinians willing to get in their cars and drive up for the day? The couple of folks who came in from Kansas and Texas must have felt kind of foolish. Where was Jaked?

Now, can the calm majority realize they really are in control here and get back to legislating and leading?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 13, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

"Liberals acually beleive that any dissent whatsoever to the gigantic takeover of liberty by the forces of socialism can only be as the result if
racism
stupidity
ignorance
lunacy
evil
partianship"

Only if the premise is false.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 13, 2009 2:02 AM | Report abuse

""paucity" refers to a fortuitous lack, not a deprivation.

"A paucity of smallpox incidents"

"A paucity of mortgage foreclosures."

Use a dictionary when you're trying to be cute

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite"

Does it need to be fortuitous? I thought it's just a small quantity.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 13, 2009 1:58 AM | Report abuse

"paucity" refers to a fortuitous lack, not a deprivation.

"A paucity of smallpox incidents"

"A paucity of mortgage foreclosures."

Use a dictionary when you're trying to be cute

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Liberals acually beleive that any dissent whatsoever to the gigantic takeover of liberty by the forces of socialism can only be as the result if
racism
stupidity
ignorance
lunacy
evil
partianship

the fact that they avoid any actual debate on cost, abortion, illegals, state regulation, law suits or honesty is a true indication of the paucity of thier positions.

Posted by: snowbama | September 12, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Non-billionaire Republicans are *defined* by their disconnect from their own self-interest. That the teabaggers are shooting themselves in the feet is unremarkable, acting against one's own best interests is the whole attraction.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

The Taxed Enough Already crowd needs to look at their pay stubs 'cause they are confused. My Federal taxes went down this spring under Obama's stimulus package. I get an extra $90 a month -- GWB was never so nice to me.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 12, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

It didn't take long for the liberal bungling and socialist agenda to emerge. Just this week we evicted a truther czar from office, removed a propoganda officer from the national arts and pegged acorn for the criminal enterprise they are. Also the cradle of bho. Today thousands protest the arrogance and ignorance. Earlier the present edent held another long boring sermon on hate and blame. All the campaign promises are revealed as empty. The sky high ratings of the inexperinced bho have gone down the well. All his questionable friends are now czars. Never before has such ineptitude been foisted on the country. The liberal base responds with insults and hate. They called protesters domestic terrorists on 9 11. I hope you learned your lesson.

Posted by: snowbama | September 12, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

They sacrifice time and effort (money in the case of Rep. Wlison). Yesterday, a pro-life activist gave the ultimate sacrifice.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

And I think we can agree that these people are not about to sacrifice a damn thing.

==

Gullible lunatics who scream about taxation on the wealthy when their own taxes have been REDUCED.

And who scream about deficits incurred to avoid a Depression yet had nothing to say about greater deficits incurred for no good reason at all. Tax cuts for parasitic billionaires and for vanity wars.

Idiots. Right wingers belong in cages.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

MoveOn.org is a CORPORATION (albeit "non-profit").

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

What is interesting in the reporting of this event is how little is reported. From all the major news outlets, they report that this circus is sponsored by 'FreedomWorks,' as if it were a grassroots org funded by individuals, like MoveOn is. But in truth, the whole thing is funded by corporations. First of all, Fox News, with Glenn Beck, a major organizer, and then these sponsors:

"– Gold Sponsor Our Country Deserves Better is a Republican PAC that also operates the Tea Party Express, a bus tour arriving in DC for the 9/12 march. Our Country Deserves Better/Tea Party Express, which has ran an advertisement comparing Obama to Hitler, is managed by the GOP consulting firm Russo, Marsh & Rogers.

– Bronze Sponsors The Heartland Institute and the Competitive Enterprise Institute are phony think-tanks dedicated to churning out academic-appearing reports to discredit global warming. Like FreedomWorks, both organizations are funded by David and Charles Koch of the Koch Industries oil empire, one of the largest privately held companies in the world.

– Bronze Sponsor American Conservative Union is run by David Keene, a lobbyist for a firm that represents private health care companies, including the insurer HealthFirst."

Oil and insurance companies funded this whole thing -- what a surprise. With help from militia organizations that advocate violence against Democrats, and specifically, Obama.

Posted by: drindl | September 12, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

This country has survived because of Democracy, ultimately we fight at election time.

A both insignificant and very important number (paradox is reality!) of people have died here trying to fight in between elections.

There have been violent mobs, there will be more violent mobs. There was violence from union members, violence from the mine owners, violence from the Army after the San Francisco quake&fire, violence from the Panthers, looters abound once in awhile, there was violence from the Klan, domestic violence may be a protest, gay killers, summary police shootings...

Maybe Chris should do a political chaos piece, examples of extrajudicial violence.

Nah, too many examples and yet, strangely, irrelevant.

Some minor members of the armed wing of the Republican party have and will commit murder soon (like those "Real IRA" killers) and we, the people who voted for this government, best be ready. It is not a time to act liberal.

You want to fight? Get elected. You want to kill people? America has always had an answer.

There was only one organized insurrection. It was put down, maybe a million lives were lost. These bigots threatening our country's Democracy better remember what happened.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 12, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

"I am thinking these peoples' blood might be the water the tree of liberty needs."

The quote mentions the blood of patriots as well as tyrants. This means that there is some self-sacrifice involved. Being willing to die for country and stuff.

And I think we can agree that these people are not about to sacrifice a damn thing.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 12, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, and Rep. Cao? Dead representative walking. The voters of his district will thank him for his service, then vote him out by a wide margin.

Posted by: koolkat_1960"

I think so too. He's done good stuff, but I think people are kind of mad at his going against the stimulus and his lack of support for the public option. Plenty of people voted for him just as an anti-Jefferson vote.

But it's kind of a win-win. It would be nice to have a Democrat, but I can't imagine a Republican I'd rather have than Cao.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 12, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

What a loser. There are so many ATF/Homeland Security people dreaming of a domestic firefight (Potomac Coast Guard exercise on 9/11, for example).

I am thinking these peoples' blood might be the water the tree of liberty needs.

Come back with your AR-15 blazing next time, Shaun, see what happens. Die for the Fox cause, idiot.

==

Flash cut to the dead jerk's car bumper, "they kin take mah weppins when they pries them frum mah COLD DED FINGERS"

Looking forward to some mass arrests of these loudmouths. A few months detention will expand their experience into involuntary homosexual servitude, and if they're lucky they can tell their grandkids how thrilling it is to service six nonwhite men every night.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"DDawd! 4 am and full of likker is when you start playing cribbage. That's a game you can play drunk or sober.

Posted by: margaretmeyers"

Haha, that's a fun game. 3AM(central time) and full of beer is when I go to sleep.

Was yesterday a tea party day? I saw a group of like 20 white people standing on a street corner. One was holding a sign that said "Say no to stupid ideas" I just assumed it was some anti-Obama thing. They didn't look angry, but I wasn't exactly eager to get out of my car either.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 12, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

All fashion-forward Klan know you don't wear white after Labor Day.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

How about the sociopaths carrying corporate signs wishing on "Obamacare" the same fate as Ted Kennedy? And of course, again, there's the "tax policy expert" wearing a black sheet over his head. Was his white one left in the trailer? And how about the CNN reporter who was drowned out on the air by these racist mentals. Unreal.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 12, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

What Would Judge Judy Do? She'd give Joe Wilson a schoolin'

http://jezebel.com/5357787/comic-confrontations-judge-judy-vs-joe-wilson/gallery/

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 12, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

We'll see.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Just one comment for now, for joked.

I realize he's probably senile, so he can't remember what happened when another sports hero, Lynn Swann, ran for statewide office as a Republican, in a state is much more balanced than Massachusetts, Pennsylvania. He got crushed.

Very few sports heroes win election in states where their politics are not in line with the state in general. People are not as stupid as joked seems to think.

Oh, and Rep. Cao? Dead representative walking. The voters of his district will thank him for his service, then vote him out by a wide margin.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | September 12, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"Shaun Bryant, 40, a leadership trainer, was among eight people who flew in from Salt Lake City. They fashioned a sign with a drawing of an AR-15 assault rifle and the words "We came unarmed from Montana and Utah...this time!"

This guy is not kidding. He wants to kill somebody, really, he does, he wants an excuse. But he represents no one and he calls himself a "leadership trainer".

What a loser. There are so many ATF/Homeland Security people dreaming of a domestic firefight (Potomac Coast Guard exercise on 9/11, for example).

I am thinking these peoples' blood might be the water the tree of liberty needs.

Come back with your AR-15 blazing next time, Shaun, see what happens. Die for the Fox cause, idiot.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 12, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

@s2: co-sign.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 12, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday we went over this.
Bobby CW was saying hate speech is ok because you let them do whatever they want and then you know who is who and what is what, etc.

I said no, for example, the Germans know about this kind of thing and there are very careful and very serious about its prohibition.

Meanwhile, the American downwardly mobile, white, bigot fringe is increasingly going public, but their numbers are steady, they are a fixed fraction. They should not be ignored, they should be vilified as the hate merchants they are.

There is no risk of organized violence though, the right has no Hitler (though some are trying, they are too pathetic); there is no huge number of demobilized, traumatized, WWI veterans looking for meaning in a blood soaked context.

There is a high risk of individual violence from one or another of these "revolutionaries", however. Tim McVeigh took the time to load a truck bomb, after all.

He killed a passel of little blond kids: the right to life people are absurd. They would be laughable if they were not so deadly.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 12, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

HuffPo now has pictures of the "tax protesters" on its site. Needless to say, not one of their signs concerns "tax" policy, supposedly the focus of the rally. One of the "tax policy experts" is wearing...a black sheet over his head.
1930 all over again? Sad. Out.

/www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/12/taxpayer-march-on-washing_n_284477.html

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 12, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"Taxed Enough Already" (TEA Parties) applies to the CBO estimate of $220 BILLION added to the federal deficit and illegal aliens being covered by Obamacare. If any lurkers want to discuss that please email jaked832@gmail.com.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

The "teabaggers" had indicated they were in DC to protest "taxes." But when they were actually interviewed, their real agenda was disclosed:

"(AP) WASHINGTON — Tens of thousands of people marched to the U.S. Capitol on Saturday, carrying signs with slogans such as "Obamacare makes me sick"...."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/12/taxpayer-march-on-washing_n_284477.html

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 12, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

So, I guess no one else is going to discuss the thread topic today.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

@d: We haven't seen anything like this KKK-style rally since the 1930s when they openly marched right down Pennsylvania Avenue. What's disappointing is the lack of pushback by the MSM, except for scattered commentators, e.g., Dr. Maddow, Colby King, Gene Robinson, Frank Rich. I am looking at this "coverage" on Beck (who now is down to self-sponsorship) and one guy, Breitbart, is featured who I presume is the Breitbart "news" service affiliated with Drudge. This guy is providing a legitimate "news" service to subscribers? What's coming out of their mouths is stormfront.com-level scary: their message is NOT coded; it is clear as a bell.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 12, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Questioning everything the government does is only OK when the Republicans are in charge ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I just can't beleive what this country is turning into. It's so sick.

Aboard the Tea Party Express (CNN) -- From the stage, Deborah Johns is the angry conscience of the tea party movement.

"Question everything your government is doing," she tells a crowd of about 100 from the bus's stage in the parking lot of the Winners casino in Winnemucca, Nevada.

Under a setting sun on the steps of the state capitol in Little Rock, Arkansas, Johns says: "Our men and women took an oath when they put on the uniform to defend and protect this country from enemies both foreign and domestic. I think we've got some domestic enemies in the White House."

On a sunny afternoon in Louisville, Kentucky, Johns works the crowd of about 2,000 into a frenzy.

"The men and women in our military didn't fight and die for this country for a communist in the White House," she says, and the crowd erupts in a chant of "U-S-A, U-S-A!"

Posted by: drindl | September 12, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

As opposed to Sen. Robert Byrd being an actual member of the KKK?

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

More on sponsors of the 9/12 KKK rally:

In addition to calling for open, armed revolt against the Obama administration, Ewart and NARLO have produced videos such as the one below, which indulges a number of ugly racial stereotypes in attacking President Obama as "the essence of evil" and a man who intends to "destroy America."

"Unless we organize and continue this fight, unless we get angry, unless we take action, without a doubt, the Republic that we know and love and what the founding fathers envisioned, is going to die a slow, agonizing and wrenching death. It's already showing tell tale signs. Unless we come together in a cohesive fighting unit, our freedoms and liberty shall fade into the dark chasm of socialism and radical environmentalism. Unless we come together for awhile and set aside our individualism and total independence, or our apathy and be willing to join with others who are fighting this WAR against Government excesses, our children and grandchildren will have to live in the invisible chains of the New World Order, perpetrated on all of us by internationalists who want our money and our land. Make no mistake, they are well on their way to getting it. Are we going to stop them, or are we going to just sit there and let them do it? We here at NARLO know how to stop them. Do you?"

Posted by: drindl | September 12, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic, if Andy Card is out then Scott Brown is in.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Threats to Obama's life are up 400%, Joe. We should write to our congressional weinies to up the funding for the Secret Service. Those poor people are up to their necks in arseholes.

That rally in DC is the biggest klan meeting I've ever seen. Wonder where they are storing their sheets?

Posted by: drindl | September 12, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

drindl:

You should be happy, at least, that a pro-life activist was murdered yesterday.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

@d: obviously I totally cosign. King's oped today was a homerun. We ignore what he's saying at our peril: the agenda of these sociopaths is quite obvious. Of course, BHO and his family are in our prayers.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 12, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Colbert King today:

"On Aug. 16, pastor Steven L. Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Ariz., told his congregation that he prays for the death of President Obama. In a sermon titled "Why I Hate Barack Obama," Anderson preached: "I'm not going to pray for his good, I'm going to pray he dies and goes to hell."

Anderson is not the only man of the cloth to wish widowhood upon Michelle Obama. In June, the Rev. Wiley Drake of First Southern Baptist Church in Buena Park, Calif., said he was praying for the president's death.

Anderson, however, was explicit in his wish. "I'd like him to die of natural causes. I don't want him to be a martyr; we don't need another holiday. I'd like to see him die, like Ted Kennedy, of brain cancer."

I pray God will not answer their petitions. While I'm at it, I'm going to send up one for the men and women of the Secret Service who endeavor to protect the nation's 44th president and his family.

There's something loose in the land, an ugliness and hatred directed toward Barack Obama, the nation's first African American president, that takes the breath away. The thread of resentment is woven through conservative commentary, right-wing radio and cable TV shows, all the way to Capitol Hill.'

Posted by: drindl | September 12, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

For those of you living in DC -- the asylum inmates are coming, hide your children. For those naive enough to think there is anything 'grassroots' about this conclave of crazy, there's this:

– Gold Sponsor Tea Party Patriots is a website run by FreedomWorks staffers. When Tea Party Patriots list serv members objected to the 9/12 march symbol, they were rebuffed and told that all final decisions were made by FreedomWorks.

– Gold Sponsor Our Country Deserves Better is a Republican PAC that also operates the Tea Party Express, a bus tour arriving in DC for the 9/12 march. Our Country Deserves Better/Tea Party Express, which has ran an advertisement comparing Obama to Hitler, is managed by the GOP consulting firm Russo, Marsh & Rogers.

– Bronze Sponsors The Heartland Institute and the Competitive Enterprise Institute are phony think-tanks dedicated to churning out academic-appearing reports to discredit global warming. Like FreedomWorks, both organizations are funded by David and Charles Koch of the Koch Industries oil empire, one of the largest privately held companies in the world.

– Bronze Sponsor American Conservative Union is run by David Keene, a lobbyist for a firm that represents private health care companies, including the insurer HealthFirst.

– Bronze Sponsor The Senate Conservatives Fund is a Republican Party PAC run by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC).

Many of these groups — each of which paid up to $10,000 to FreedomWorks to participate as sponsors — were pivotal in providing assistance (talking points, event lists, signs) to attendees of rowdy town halls in August and anti-Obama tea party protests. Encouraging anger and intimidation against lawmakers supporting health care reform was part of the strategy.

But for the 9/12 march, there appears to be a shift towards a more radical coalition. The official sponsorship list reveals a subterranean, extreme element of the American right in attendance. The National Association for Rural Landowners, a bronze sponsor, references the incidents at Waco and Ruby Ridge to call for attacks on “government entities” and liberals. In a YouTube video posted in July, the group makes the case for a secession, followed by a violent civil war. Similarly, another 9/12 cosponsor, FreeRepublic, is a forum for various radical right causes. As ThinkProgress reported, the shooter at the Holocaust museum found a welcome audience for his writings on the website.

Despite the inclusion of such anti-government extremists, Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN), Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA), and Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) plan to attend and speak."

I remember a time when even republican politicans weren't scummy enough to speak at events sponsored by groups that encourage killing the president and other democrats.

Posted by: drindl | September 12, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Lurkers (I apologize for the off topic post):

God does answer prayer with "no". I accept that. But others are trying to infer something different by only talking about one part of my prayer. If you have any questions on that or any of my prior posts, please email me jaked832@gmail.com. Keep in mind if someone prays for A, B, C, D, and E (if it is God's Will), it is not accurate to claim that I only prayed for E.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

@G&T: Welcome back! We are ALL glad things went well...all except for one Hall of Fame troll who shall remain nameless.

While you were gone, good news (er, I guess): Fix received formal recognition in the current Columbia Journalism Review as one of "Drudge's heirs" and a part of Drudge's "legacy." Mission accomplished?
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"The Columbia Journalism Review features an interesting piece on Matt Drudge, and the apparent declining fortunes of the Drudge Report now that Republicans do not control the White House.

Drudge is in part a victim of his own success. He spawned imitators and emulators, who in turn have only further splintered the media world. ...While The Fix, put together by Chris Cillizza of The Washington Post, and Playbook, put together by Politico’s Mike Allen, are often referred to as Drudge’s heirs, neither has the influence that Drudge once had, nor do they display the kind of naked ideological bias that was Drudge’s hallmark. Of course, their existence is a testament to Drudge’s legacy as a trailblazer in the field of Internet newsgathering and gossip mongering. But increasingly, a legacy is all the Drudge Report has to offer.

The article also notes the opposite being true for the Huffington Post, which has a healthier ongoing dose of visitors."

http://www.examiner.com/x-23185-Seminole-County-Democrat-Examiner~y2009m9d10-Drudge-Report-loses-traffic-unlike-the-Huffington-Post
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Again, you and Tornado get some rest. :)


Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 12, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

DDawd! 4 am and full of likker is when you start playing cribbage. That's a game you can play drunk or sober.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 12, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

G+T!! You're alive. I am too!

1) Thanks, nodebris for the good luck. I ended up winning like $450 which goes to Louisinana military families. It was really tough tonight because there was a guy with terminal liver cancer who was playing with money he won off a settlement. Normally he would be winning a lot of money from me that I would be winning from others, but I was playing for charity. Ugh.

2) I agree, G+T on what you said about the most important number post. Now I don't take the "most important" part that literally, but the protection issue has been such a non-issue for such a long time now. It's more apt as the LEAST important number.

3) I think the fact that G+T and I both are posting kind of debunks the notion that prayer has any value.

40 free alcohol at the casino is just teh shiites. I'm not close enough to walk, but close enough for cheap taxi.

5) Shrink2's comments on Obama's handling the health care issue the last few days just make me smile. If we had a poster-of-the-week award, he would win it. (I win last week's for my last minute entry on the Joseph Cao Town Hall)


6) I'm drunk and mentally exhausted. This has been a looong week at work. Hope you all got to do something rewarding for 9/11. If not, there's a whole weekend.

Good night!

Posted by: DDAWD | September 12, 2009 4:11 AM | Report abuse

Darn.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

The most educated state in the union isn't going to elect anyone from the neanderthal party. This will go to a Democrat, only question is which.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Did you already make the point about how important Martha Coakley's gender and "working class" roots in Western Massachusetts matter?

I mean looking back at the 2008 Democratic presidential primary: Sens. Kennedy and Kerry plus Gov. Patrick endorsed Sen. Obama and Massachusetts is considered a very liberal state with a lot of wealth and also a lot of college kids (Obama's primary bread and butter), yet Hillary Rodham Clinton won the primary by a rather significant amount. In an analyzing how Obama lost worthwhile in seeing how Martha Coakley might win?

Posted by: Corey_NY | September 11, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I still think that Curt Schilling will get into this race : )

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, Tim Cahill hammers Deval Patrick if he allows the law to be changed again for clearly partisan gain.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Martha Coakley ties to Western Massachusetts will so be a factor in her favor since she's the only candidate so far with any ties outside the Boston area?

Posted by: Corey_NY | September 11, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Very interesting news. Any updates on whether the Dems will change the law so that a (non-Republican now) Governor can name an interim Senator?

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

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