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MN-Senate: Franken Claims Victory

UPDATED, 5:00 p.m. ET: Al Franken declared himself the winner of the Minnesota Senate race moments ago just hours after the state's canvassing board certified a final vote tally that put him 225 votes ahead of Sen. Norm Coleman.

"After 62 days, after the careful and painstaking hand inspection of nearly 3 million ballots, after hours and hours of hard work by elections officials and volunteers across the state, I am proud and humbled to stand before you as the next Senator from Minnesota," Franken told supporters today.

He added that the win was "incredibly humbling" and offered an olive branch -- of sorts -- to Coleman. "Norm has worked hard for this state and this country," said Franken before adding (although not saying directly) that he hoped Coleman would bow out of the race gracefully in order that "Minnesotans can continue to count on receiving excellent constituent services from their two Senators without interruption."

Coleman, as expected, will file a formal election contest within the next 24 hours.

"This process isn't at the end; it is now just at the beginning," said Coleman counsel Tony Trimble in a statement following the state canvassing board meeting. "We will contest the results of the Canvassing Board -- otherwise, literally millions of Minnesotans will be disenfranchised."

Trimble decried the "serious problems" in the recount process, citing the inclusion of 150 (or so) allegedly double counted votes and the counting of 133 ballots cast on election night but unable to be located in the recount process; he added that the "utter lack of uniformity" in deciding which rejected absentee ballots should be included and which should not invalidate the current result.

Should Franken ultimately win the race, Democrats will control 59 seats in the Senate -- just one short of a filibuster-proof majority that constitutes true governing power in the chamber.

Original Post

The Minnesota state Supreme Court has turned down Sen. Norm Coleman's plea to include 654 rejected absentee ballots in the final vote count in his race against entertainer Al Franken, a major setback for the GOP incumbent who is seeking to make up a 225-vote deficit.

The Court -- in an opinion issued this afternoon and signed by Chief Justice Alan Page (a member of the Purple People Eaters) -- said that Coleman's attempt to include these rejected absentees did not meet the criteria for counting ballots laid out in a previous ruling, specifically that both sides had to agree for any additional ballots to be counted.

"Because the parties and the respective counties have not agreed as to any of these additional ballots, the merits of this dispute (and any other disputes with respect to absentee ballots) are the proper subject of an election contest," wrote Page.

This ruling comes just hours before the state Canvassing Board is expected to officially declare Franken the winner, twin developments that are likely to add to the momentum the Democrat has been building for the last week or so.

As we detailed earlier in the Monday Fix, Coleman's options are dwindling. With today's Court ruling, the incumbent must now put all of his hopes on an election challenge.

That challenge is likely to have three main prongs: that the 654 absentee ballots have been wrongly excluded, that roughly 150 ballots have been double-counted, and that 130 ballots that disappeared from a church between election night Nov. 4 and the manual recount should not be included in the final tally.

Democrats insist that even if all three of those challenges are resolved in Coleman's favor, he still does not have the votes to make up his current deficit.

"The state canvassing board is set to certify Al Franken the Senator-Elect from Minnesota, and it's time for the Republican Party to face the facts: Al Franken won this election," said Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee communications director Matt Miller.

That overstates the case somewhat. Although Franken now stands in a commanding position, the race is not over. Coleman still retains the legal right to appeal the result of the election and, assuming he does so, Republicans have pledged to filibuster any attempt to seat Franken.

"Today's ruling, which effectively disregards the votes of hundreds of Minnesotans, ensures that an election contest is now inevitable," said Coleman counsel Fritz Knaak. "The Coleman campaign has consistently and continually fought to have every validly cast vote counted, and for the integrity of Minnesota's election system, we will not stop now. The Minnesota Supreme Court has made sure that an election contest will need to be filed quickly in order to ensure that an accurate and valid recount can be achieved."

But, today's ruling brings Franken a major step closer to eventually representing Minnesota in the Senate.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 5, 2009; 1:05 PM ET
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This Republican congratulates Al on finally making it where he belongs he will be a breath of fresh air in the Senate. Hope they can continue to clean out all the rest of the Stale Arlen Specter Sewer in 2010 and 2012. I don't understand why so many folks voted for SENATORS (for President etc ...) aren't these the same people in the House and Senate who got this country in the mess its in? New people deserve to be in gov't ... good riddance to Norm and his ilk.

Posted by: ppoads | January 7, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Norm Coleman is a shameful, hypocritical piece of scum. After trying to bully Franken into conceding when HE was "ahead," he now whines and cries like a baby AFTER a recount!

And all these republicans cheering him on, not to mention the nutjobs on this board: they were the ones calling democrats "whiners and crybabies" over challenges to Bush v. Gore. Now that it's THEIR guy, of course, they can't fall on the floor and start kicking and screaming fast enough.

Hey coleman: YOU LOSE.

To quote yourself: "deal with it."

Posted by: monk4hall | January 6, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

So Norm Coleman will sue to try to hold up this outcome? Where is his GOP "patriotism", what about all of his previous comments? Ex-Sen. Coleman is just one more GOP sore loser-maybe if he yells war or gay marriage or guns quick he could stay in?????

Posted by: gm467 | January 6, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, a few more days like this and there may not be a Republican left in DC.....

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 6, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.

Posted by: hclark1 | January 6, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Go DEMS!!!!! PAYBACK FOR ELECTION 2000
Gre vs Bush Show those Republicans who's Boss Now!!

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | January 6, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"If no extra post-election votes were found then stop the lawsuits and Franken wins. Extra votes, then fraud occurred."

That's faulty logic. There are numerous other ways to account for it, more likely human error than fraud (few people thought before the polls closed that it would be THIS close, 1-2%, sure, but not in the hundreds of votes, so fraud on that small a scale is unlikely because of the risks v. rewards).

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 6, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Not since Rick Santorum was sh!t-canned have I been so elated to see a republican crash and burn!
Coleman was an embarrassment EVEN by GOP standards
LOL LOL

Posted by: kase | January 6, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Ventura being an independent Chefra was a good thing I agree. I wish we had 3 parties instead of two polarized parties. You read things from both sides and don't know what to believe. If you take sides you might miss the boat all together. If no extra post-election votes were found then stop the lawsuits and Franken wins. Extra votes, then fraud occurred. You can gloat or whine calling each other names all day, but it doesn't change that fact.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 6, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Let me see here! Minnesota takes its time and painstakingly handcounts every vote followed up with a careful review of questionably rejected absentee ballots overseen by a bi-partisan canvassing committee and a few mindless Palinites cry "ACORN?" Colemans court options are few and none and all this delay is just another desperate delayng tactic from the party of Hoover and Bush willing to do anything to distract from the mess they have left this country in as a result of Republican stewardship.

Posted by: nysteveo2 | January 6, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

If you're going to plagarize the WSJ Opinion page, at least give the link. I have a few problems with their opinion, namely:

1. No precinct in Minnesota to this point has reported ballots above and beyond the voting total, this seems to be one of those rumors circulated through the conservative pundits like the ballots "discovered" in someone's car.

2. If this did happen, there is unfortunately no recourse. If they are not labeled as duplicates, they are indistinguishable from other ballots. This was, however, challenged in the courts and ruled on already- just as duplicates must be labeled, so must originals. In most cases, any ballots in the recount labeled original were thrown out (unless agreed to be counted by both parties). Thus, the only way to have a double vote is if both the original and the duplicate were not marked, greatly reducing the probability of this error from what the Coleman side says. Still probably happened, but in much lower frequency

3. Who estimates 80-100 for Franken, the Coleman camp? Most other experts see no reason to suspect these duplicates would favor one or the other, as they arre random and not systematic errors.

4. Let's assume this did happen, and let's assume those most Republican leaning estimates, 100 votes. That still leaves Coleman 125 votes short. Throw on top of that the 133 votes Coleman wants thrown out because they couldn't be located for the recount, a net of 37 for Franken. Subtract those, Coleman is 88 votes short. If he then gets the courts to force the count of those 600+ cherry picked ballots he wants counted, he needs to win close to 60% of those ballots to gain the lead, which is a steep proposition because the ballots counted in the last batch broke 52-48.

All in all, lots of excuses, but not much really there to go on. Coleman needs to get every ruling left to go his way, and catch a few breaks on top of that. Doubtful.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 6, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Two words Norm
MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rationalthought11 | January 6, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Under Minnesota law, election officials are required to make a duplicate ballot if the original is damaged during Election Night counting. Officials are supposed to mark these as "duplicate" and segregate the original ballots. But it appears some officials may have failed to mark ballots as duplicates, which are now being counted in addition to the originals. This helps explain why more than 25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote. By some estimates this double counting has yielded Mr. Franken an additional 80 to 100 votes.

Posted by: leapin | January 6, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

It's interesting to see so many of the individuals taking shots at Al Franken here are also taking shots at former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura, lumping them together as "celebrity candidates" or somesuch. One could probably make the case that Franken has been more of a pundit than an actor or comedian for the last few years, but that's semantics and I won't go down that road.

The offhand dismissal of Ventura, though, is more interesting. Aside from his governorship, most people know Ventura best from his time as a competitor and an announcer in the world of pro wrestling. Of course, as someone earlier on this thread pointed out, he was a Navy SEAL before he was a pro wrestler. But I think the greater omission Ventura's detractors make is ignoring the fact that he served as mayor of Brooklyn Park for four years.

Hm ... he did a turn as mayor of a city before becoming governor. Does that sound like anyone who might be beloved by the average Al Franken detractor?

Posted by: GJonahJameson | January 6, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse


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MN-Senate: Franken Claims Victory
UPDATED, 5:00 p.m. ET: Al Franken declared himself the winner of the Minnesota Senate race moments ago just hours after the state's canvassing board certified a final vote tally that put him 225 votes ahead of Sen. Norm Coleman.

"After 62 days, after the careful and painstaking hand inspection of nearly 3 million ballots, after hours and hours of hard work by elections officials and volunteers across the state, I am proud and humbled to stand before you as the next Senator from Minnesota," Franken told supporters today.

He added that the win was "incredibly humbling" and offered an olive branch -- of sorts -- to Coleman. "Norm has worked hard for this state and this country," said Franken before adding (although not saying directly) that he hoped Coleman would bow out of the race gracefully in order that "Minnesotans can continue to count on receiving excellent constituent services from their two Senators without interruption."

Coleman, as expected, will file a formal election contest within the next 24 hours.

"This process isn't at the end; it is now just at the beginning," said Coleman counsel Tony Trimble in a statement following the state canvassing board meeting. "We will contest the results of the Canvassing Board -- otherwise, literally millions of Minnesotans will be disenfranchised."

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Coleman just give it a break. You agreed to the rules of the recount and now that you lost you want to change the rules. No way Jose! Just concede and let the duly elected winner (Al Franken) go and represent the people. Any more wrangling is just putting the representation of the people in jeopardy for your vulgar vanity and self serving greed. Just give it up and be a man Coleman.

Congratulations to Al Franken!!!

Posted by: TimeforChange | January 6, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"election officials have approved an election count where in a number of MN jurisdictions, there were more votes than people legally registered."

Please name one. It didn't happen.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 6, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

This is the latest of several items I have read in the Post and the NY Times that quote the Democrats as saying that a challenge cannot prevail because even if all ballots are counted Coleman cannot win: "Democrats insist that even if all three of those challenges are resolved in Coleman's favor, he still does not have the votes to make up his current deficit."

Yet, not one journalist has actually written about whether this claim is true. Is there any merit to this claim? That piece of information is absolutely crucial to knowing whether or not Coleman's challenge is legitimate or a waste or taxpayer time and money. Simply reporting what each side says without providing independent facts is not journalism--it's being a human dictation machine.

Posted by: rosepetals64 | January 6, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Given the subject of Al Franken's so-called victory, I think this column is appropriately titled, "The Fix." George Soros and a number of ethically challenged MN judges and election officials have approved an election count where in a number of MN jurisdictions, there were more votes than people legally registered. But hey, that's OK if it advances the democrat agenda.

Posted by: jedsil | January 6, 2009 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Congrats to Senator Franken on his hard fought honorable battle to represent the good people of Minnesota. The US Senate will a better place now that Al Franken is on board and the Republicans have deservedly lost yet another seat. I know some may have heard this before somewhere.. but, Al Franken, is as qualified and as able as anyone in the political scene to be president. I'd like to see him run, I'd like to see him be president some day.
As president, it's about service, service for the greatest country on the face of the Earth and the honor that goes with it. I think Al Franken fits that description.

Posted by: Hillary08 | January 6, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Now is a good time to remember what crooked Norm Coleman said about this exact situation two long months ago:


"Yesterday the voters spoke. We prevailed," Coleman said Wednesday at a news conference. He noted Franken could opt to waive the recount.


"It's up to him whether such a step is worth the tax dollars it will take to conduct," Coleman said, telling reporters he would "step back" if he were in Franken's position.
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http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/287606/36/
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Republican Hypocrisy. It comes with the party ID card.


Coleman and his briefcasers might also be on the receiving end of sanctions for filing frivilous claims, the MN Supreme Court has already warned them about it. Coleman seems to be on his way to an Alamo style legal bunker. With no bullets, and not enough ballots


The key difference between Franken and Coleman: Franken won, and he did it without a cherry-picking legal strategy. At this point, Coleman is a sure loser, his only flicker of a hope is dependent on the success of a "count my votes, but not his" legal strategy that is doomed to failure.

Posted by: DrainYou | January 5, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

"Somewhere, Paul and Sheila Wellstone are smiling."

Posted by: jprice2

I don't know about that. Aren't they dead?

Posted by: cletus1 | January 5, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I must agree with elvischannel. The beauty of this country is that anyone can step up and represent the people, no matter what his or her background.

(Hey, just look at Jim Bunning.)

Posted by: dognabbit | January 5, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

MatthewAvitabile - Nice sourcing! Why not just go to Hannity's blog?

All "found" ballots were legitimate ones, mostly wrongfully rejected in the original count. None mysteriously appeared in people's cars or any nonsense like that.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"Coulter's book is very insightful and full of truthful observations."

Interesting seeing this in print, I don't know that I could possibly say it with a straight face...

One of her "insightful" observations:

"Her (Michelle Obama's) obvious imitation of Jackie O's style - the flipped-under hair, the sleeveless A-line dresses, the short strands of fake pearls - would have been laughable if done by anyone other than a media-designated saint."

Classy, makes me hope her jaw is still wired shut.

But for more on Coultergeist, let's turn to Senator Franken:

"I know, you think the title of this chapter is a little harsh, but believe me, in Coulter's case, "nutcase" is more than justified. I should know. You see, Ann and I are friends.

I personally wasn't aware of that myself until I read it in the New York Observer. They did a profile on Coulter when her bile-filled, relentlessly ugly bestseller Slander topped the New York Times list. And for some reason- I guess to establish her bona fides as just a lovable gal about town- she told the writer from the Observer that she was "friendly with" Al Franken.

I found that odd. I have met Ann Coulter once. At a Saturday Night Live party. When she introduced herself to me, I made what was in retrospect a terrible mistake. instead of saying, 'Ann Coulter! You're a horrible person. Oooh, I just hate you!' or something along those lines-instead, I was cordial. For maybe a minute or two.

That is the sum total of my personal interaction with Ann Coulter. And yet, to her, it was enough to include me on a very short list of people she's 'friendly with.' Pathetic, to be sure, but no more dishonest than every other word that comes out of this woman."

- Lies, p. 5

Good read from that point, tearing into glaring lies in her previous book (my favorites are the ones ripping the New York Times for not publishing stories, followed by printouts of the Times with those supposed blocked stories having front-page treatment. Typical of Coulter's "insights."

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

It appears that Franken won after many ballots were "found" after the election.

What a joke.
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/01/franken-wins-in-minnesota.html

Posted by: MatthewAvitabile | January 5, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

If it keeps him from displaying his "humor", then I'm glad he won. The safest place for him is to be is a Jr. US Senator. He'll have to refrain from humor in the beginning, though I'm not sure how anyone would really be able to tell the difference.

US elections are wallows in the sewer, so who really cares about whether either one pulled dirty tricks. The recount process appeared pretty open, and Republicans certainly have no business complaining about things like that.

It would have been good to get one more check on the congressional democrats and Obama, though.

Posted by: cletus1 | January 5, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Coulter's book is very insightful and full of truthful observations.

Franken is the equivalent of a wart on a Hippopotamus.

Obama acts like the chimp(just look at the dude) that libs tried to accuse Bush of being. Bush never held the resemblance that Barry naturally has.

Harry Reid doesn't want a black Senator--He is on tape saying this to Gov. Blago.

Posted by: charko825 | January 5, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

allenridge wrote:
******** Breaking News****************

Oh my, a Fox News viewer for sure...

allenridge wrote: "NBC (NAZI Broadcasting Corporation ) is going to begin "censorsing the news" Here you go: "NBC BANS COULTER FOR LIFE; CUT FROM 'TODAY' SHOW OVER BOOK'S CLAIMS, NO MORE CABLE
Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET"

Well, I'm not sure I understand you because if cutting Coulter was news, NBC reported it. Just what "news" is NBC censoring?

allenridge wrote: "The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT."

You are way off if you think banning an author from a show on NBC is censorship. Please look up the definition. NBC also banned David Letterman, someone with more newsworthy points to make than Coulter, yet no one is calling that censorship.

allenridge wrote: "Banned for life!"

Life is not long enough for that woman.

allenridge wrote:"We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over," a top network source explains."

As is their right. Coulter does not produce news and she is insulting. Why should NBC be required to have her on its show anymore than any other insulting person with a book to sell?

allenridge wrote: "NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked. But executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE."

So it was overbooked. But its still not censorship anymore than cutting Star Trek in 1969 was censorship though I'm still a little upset about it. You need to calm down a little and maybe read a little bit of law. Ask yourself which is a right; NBC's right to put anyone they want on its shows; or Coulter's right to be on any show she wants to be on? If Coulter has that right then so do you and I. But I think you'd agree NBC would be within its rights to not have either of us on its show.

allenridge wrote: "Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY."

Ah, the real reason to be upset. There is money to be made off of spreading more hate through FUD.

allenridge wrote: "But one network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist."

Again, that is NBC's right. If you go around calling everyone who dis-invites Coulter to a talk show a 'censor' you will just look silly. Its a show. Get over it and learn what censorship really is.

Posted by: bevjims1 | January 5, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

One bit of errata to correct: Alan Page is not the Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court; Eric Magnuson, a member of the State Canvassing Board, is.

Otherwise, well done reporting this tricky story.

Posted by: justmanj | January 5, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Those denigrating Al Franken as a clown need to realize that the beauty of this country is that it has never let one's past determines one's future. Laughing at Truman as a haberdasher, Reagan as a B movie actor, or Obama as a community organizer may be done with ease but with no predictive validity. I recall Newt Gingrich finding Sonny Bono, the dorky half of Sonny and Cher, to be one of the most astute political thinkers and promising congressmen he had ever encountered before his tragic death. Save your laughs--or praise--for the moment Al Franken's senatorial performance can be assessed.

Posted by: elvischannel | January 5, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I have not read an intelligent comment from a republican in these comment boxes since the election (well ok, there were damned few before that, but still)

Posted by: officermancuso | January 5, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

officermancuso wrote:
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Kurthunt wrote, "With a degree and a fellowship from Harvard, Franken is undeniably 'smart'."

Eh, um, no. Franken may be many wonderful things, but smart *by virtue of a Harvard degree* is not one of them.

Posted by: officermancuso | January 5, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I guess you're right. After all, Bill O'Reilly graduated from Harvard as well. And Ann Coulter graduated from the University of Michigan's law school (one of the best).

I guess, what I meant to say, is that Franken is smart, by virtue of his arguements. Pure and simple.

Posted by: kurthunt | January 5, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere, Paul and Sheila Wellstone are smiling.

Posted by: jprice2 | January 5, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Conservative republicans should ask themselves why the MN & SC vote was so close.

What's a coulter??????????

Posted by: knjincvc | January 5, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I am not surprised that a State that would seat an ex- wrestler in Jesse 'The Body' Venture now has elected Al "The Charlatan" Franken. What an absolutely ridiculous Senate this will now be full of incompetent children. Poor Minnesotans will now and evermore be seen as the dimwits of the Great White North.

Posted by: mtnmanetje | January 5, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Al Franken is one of the leading roles in "Barry's Freak Show Goes to Washington Tour"!!

Posted by: charko825 | January 5, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse


THE OBAMA FREAK SHOW IS REVVING UP!!


Well, it looks like the Obama Administration is going to be the most corrupt Administration in the history of the country....The guy isn't even in office yet and he has scandals all around him!!!

Last week he was questioned by the FBI for over two hours!!
WHERE WAS THE PRESS COVERAGE???!!!

The funniest so far that just keeps on giving laughs upon laughs upon laughs is Caroline (dumbo) Kennedy....There are literally hundreds of Youtube videos of Caroline saying her favorite word--
ya know!!??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YF_pN8pWvg

Posted by: charko825 | January 5, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that the party of Ronald Reagan, Sonny Bono, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Fred Thompson are making such an issue of Franken's celebrity status. So what?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

The republotards are just mad because Franken's two GREAT books:

1. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them; A fair and balanced look at the right.

and;

2. Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot

are such GREAT books! Boy does Franken know how to slice and dice the reptards!!!"

Again. Neither book is even in the same ballpark as Loose Cannons and Other Weapons of Mass Political Destruction which dead-on skewered both sides of the American political scene. If you're an independent and tired of both parties, this is an awesome read.

Posted by: politicalchampionshipwrestling | January 5, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

If anyone gets this far, to read my comment, they are most certainly crazy. Al Franken is an intellectual with a sense of humor. Norm Coleman is not characterized by either of those labels.

The open (same day) registration process in MN is commendable and I have not yet seen any comments that would weigh-in on how this would affect a runoff, if MN allowed for it. Since MN doesn't have a runoff provision, I don't see how anyone can claim the election is invalid.

Those on the Canvassing Board who also served on the MN Supreme Court who needed to - did recuse themselves. Even a unbalanced U.S. Supreme Court is unlikely to take up this case if grounds for it could be entertained.

No one in this blog or elsewhere has shown any impirical reason that the results should be entertained. Let Coleman appeal. If he fails, so be it. The voters will have spoken. The courts will have worked, and reviewed under the rules of evidence on appeal, and spoken. Those of us who believe in such things will take solace. Those of you who remain sceptical will have something to blather on and prattle on about.

Posted by: morgangale | January 5, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

TORRO WROTE:
"My home state of Minnesota - Where only Jews can run for Senate. No matter how bad they suck, the dems and repubs prefer a Jews to any black, asian or hispanic"

___________________________
Hey El Torro,,heh torro, ahaa,,,,ahaa!
And el Matidor does a "MAGNIFIQUE", BRAVO,,,BRAVO!

Posted by: mudbone | January 5, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

I,MUDBONE, welcome you as the Senator from Minnesota(did I get that right?). It takes a lot to make people laugh when they are crying. You do your darndest Al,,a high IQ is not a disqualification for public office yet--even after the BUSH ELITIST YEARS!

Posted by: mudbone | January 5, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Give up Coleman, you were beaten by a clown!

Posted by: Bob22003 | January 5, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

My home state of Minnesota - Where only Jews can run for Senate. No matter how bad they suck, the dems and repubs prefer a Jews to any black, asian or hispanic

Posted by: torro67 | January 5, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

******** Breaking News****************

NBC (NAZI Broadcasting Corporation ) is going to begin "censorsing the news" Here you go:

"NBC BANS COULTER FOR LIFE; CUT FROM 'TODAY' SHOW OVER BOOK'S CLAIMS, NO MORE CABLE
Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET

The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

Banned for life!

"We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over," a top network source explains.

NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked.

But executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE.

Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY.

But one network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist.


Posted by: allenridge |
___________________________________________Great news! It's about time NBC caught up to what most of America is doing: censoring and censuring the right wing nut jobs. She's a loon with no credibility, she doesn't deserve to be heard. She'll still have a spot on Fox, though, at least until Rupert kicks the bucket soon and that little house of cards will tumble as well.

Posted by: md83 | January 5, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

star_key2

How did you feel about Ventura? He was a pro wrestler before he became a public servant. Maybe its an indication of what was before Franken was worse.
---------------------------------------------------

Actually, Ventura was a Navy SEAL before a wrestler...just goes to show you that the new gen Republican will pick and choose the facts..if Ventura was a republican they would have fallen all over themselves in support of him.

I actually found it to be a breath of fresh air that an Independent was voted into the Govs office when Ventura won. We need more independents and less of the same old...

Posted by: chefra | January 5, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans have pledged to filibuster any attempt to seat Franken."

One interesting bit of parliamentary gamesmanship I've seen suggested- put u Franken's name as the first Senator in the class. If Republicans filibuster it, they'd be filibustering the whole class (to include leader McConnell), not just Franken. Aned, with 66 Senators seated, only 39 are needed for cloture, with Dems holding 38 of those seats...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Incorrect. The Canvassing Board is comprised of two members of the state Supreme Court, two district court judges, and the secretary of state.
Just following up...on Minnesota's Canvassing Board, the SoS can only vote in case of a tie vote, so considering this is a Republican dominated board, not a overly large amount of influence.
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SoS Mark Ritchie is DFL. Chief Justice Magnuson and Associate Justice Anderson were appointed by Pawlenty, a Republican.

Make up your own mind about Chief Judge Gearin (2nd JD, Ramsey). Assistant Chief Judge Cleary wrote "Beyond the Burning Cross," a book that detailed a case he made against the St. Paul hate crime statute. Hardly a liberal, I'd say.

Posted by: dvparrothead | January 5, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Born Again Bigot Idiots Pro Life Serial Killing Mass Murdering War Criminals lose again!

Enablers of War Criminals are War Criminals. Have fun in Eternal Hell, Born Again Bigot Idiot Killers!

Posted by: MoronCons | January 5, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I am both happy for Al and worried.

One thing is to be a defender of good causes from the bleachers, another is to be inside the power machinery that creates the problems.

POWER CORRUPTS. Period.

Now, Al will be tested. Will he get drunk with political power, or will he remain true to his believes?

Time will tell. I just don't trust politicians any more. NO ONE. NOT EVEN ONE.

You just have to take them as they go. One day at a time.

Posted by: coqui44 | January 5, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Kurthunt wrote, "With a degree and a fellowship from Harvard, Franken is undeniably 'smart'."

Eh, um, no. Franken may be many wonderful things, but smart *by virtue of a Harvard degree* is not one of them.

Posted by: officermancuso | January 5, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

As far as filibusters go - Read the opening remarks of Sen. Joe Biden (Committe Chair) toward Justice Thomas during his confirmation hearing. At the library of congress. His remarks are like a High Schoolers debate/tirade. Its boring reading, but it is a clear display of completely partisan behavior on supposedly non-partisan committee. Yes -Republicans do the same, but it doesn't make it right.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

just heard Kentucky Senator McConnel... like a perfect storm. He is such a goof you want him to go, but he so perfectly what is wrong with the repugs... you want him to stay. And the fact that he won his race by a few 1000 votes means he is a 100 lb. weakling, trying, gasping for credibility.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | January 5, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Incorrect. The Canvassing Board is comprised of two members of the state Supreme Court, two district court judges, and the secretary of state.

SoS Mark Ritchie is DFL. Chief Justice Magnuson and Associate Justice Anderson were appointed by Pawlenty, a Republican.

Make up your own mind about Chief Judge Gearin (2nd JD, Ramsey). Assistant Chief Judge Cleary wrote "Beyond the Burning Cross," a book that detailed a case he made against the St. Paul hate crime statute. Hardly a liberal, I'd say.

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And most of the members of the Minnesota state canvassing board are Democrats. But they can be fair—right?

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 5, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"I can predict how this moron's votes will go:"

I eagerly await your bizarre, otherworldly reasoning.

"I wish to not only vote for the amendment but protest against it in the strongest terms. this is Lib intelligence on display.
I declare victory and wish to redeploy in defeat."

Since you're in your lovely stream of consciousness mode, I'll follow in suit. ~We're in iraq because of saddam, to take away the WMD that doesn't exist to liberate the people by killing their children and torturing innocents, pass the klenex box I'm getting worked up~


"I wish to frugally apply an enormous stimulus."

I wish to frugally invade iraq that will pay for its self, only cost 250 Billion at most, cost several trillion to my friends at KBR its worth it to liberate all these people only in death are you truly free.

"I am going to award non-taxpayers a tax refund."

I am going to award companies that keep two books on profits and make lots of money but don't pay taxes huge incentives to do stuff they are already doing because they are my buddies.

"I guess all Libs suffer this problem. Depends on the word "is" doesn't it?"

Apparently what it depends on is if you completely willing to overlook EVERY SINGLE FAILURE OF YOUR SIDE OF THE AISLE IN THE HOPES THAT NO ONE WILL NOTICE. I guess you were wrong, but you should be used to that by now. I wonder what its like to have eight year of every single policy fail in profound and awesome ways. To have your leader whom you worship as some sort of near-god tyrant reduced to a mumbling stumbling idiot he always was. The source of your madness is clear. What are you going to do about it? That's right, project your failures and the failures of your leaders on others. Good going hero, you're now officially the problem. Prepare to be solved.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone care what the Coultergeist says anymore? Maybe that's the real reason she's off NBC- the market.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

"BTW is there any word on how many times ACORN registered Mickey Mouse in Minnesota? I wonder how many times Mickey voted for Big Al? I’m sure all of them were counted."

You tell me, the rolls of who showed up to vote or cast absentee ballots can be searched, did Mickey Mouse vote anywhere in the US this year? Doubtful. Just another Republican distraction to cover up the fact that they lost.

"Obviously elections officials don’t arbitrarily reject absentee ballots. Ballots are typically rejected as a result of some inconsistency."

Actually sometimes they do, and sometimes they do because they misunderstand the election law (like in the case where a witness signed with a different date than the voter). In the case of the improperly rejected ballots, it was all based on election official error, which makes your statement, which was an ad hominem attack because it was based on false logic solely to smear a political opponent.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

If Mike O'Leary is right than those underserved counties should have the same voting machines and process that the rest of the state has. What kills me is that states like Florida had multiple types of ballots. MN and FL and many states have the lottery and manage to record all those number tallies multiple times a week without any problem. There is no reason that in this day and age votes can still be found after an election. I think that this will continue to be a problem every time an election is under a 5-10,000 vote margin.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

******** Breaking News****************

NBC (NAZI Broadcasting Corporation ) is going to begin "censorsing the news" Here you go:

"NBC BANS COULTER FOR LIFE; CUT FROM 'TODAY' SHOW OVER BOOK'S CLAIMS, NO MORE CABLE
Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET

The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

Banned for life!

"We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over," a top network source explains.

NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked.

But executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE.

Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY.

But one network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist.

Posted by: allenridge | January 5, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe the Kennedy cat could keep the seat warm until the rapist gets out of jail. or is it rehab this month?"

Hey, man, I have no idea what Mark Foley is doing with little boys these days. That's something that your side of the aisle likes to keep up on.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

With 59 seats, the only real question is whether there is one sane republicon in the senate?

Posted by: John1263 | January 5, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

The narrative is pretty clear. Coleman and the goops tried their level best to cheat then declare victory and demand the actual winner concede. A page right out of the bush playbook. Franken and Democrats have been burned enough times to know the name of the game and he fought back. He fought for the people of Minnesota and the United States, stopping yet another stolen election. Go Al! And btw - you were right, rush limbaugh is a big fat idiot, and fox et al are full of lies, and they are the lying liars who tell them.

Posted by: John1263 | January 5, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me republicans need to decide once and for all if they're in favor of all votes being counted, or not.

This would clear up a lot of confusion among the population.

Posted by: binkynh | January 5, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

AWESOME! The wingnuts are going to hate Al Franken, because he's smart, and a real fighter, unlike the previous set of Democratic stooges, many of whom still hold office and who can't roll over fast enough for their GOP masters (coughharryreidcough). I can't wait to see him in action! CONGRATULATIONS, AL!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | January 5, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

"'Yesterday the voters spoke. We prevailed,' Coleman said Wednesday at a news conference. He noted Franken could opt to waive the recount. 'It's up to him whether such a step is worth the tax dollars it will take to conduct,' Coleman said, telling reporters he would 'step back' if he were in Franken's position."

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/287606/36/

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Actually, part of Franken's success in the recount owed to the fact that some rural precincts use some pretty outdated voting machines. The recount brought a few more votes to the DFL.

But really, the recount produced a swing of 440 votes. Considering the fact that over 2,900,000 votes were cast, a margin of error of just .015% seems reasonable. Hard to call shenanigans when we're dealing with such a small number.

I said it when Coleman was announced the winner, and I'll say it again now that Franken has been declared the winner. There should be a runoff.

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The only logical conclusion one could draw from this phenomenon is that the overwhelming majority of illiterates and imbeciles are Democrats.
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No.

It was because the Republicans arbitrarily challenged a lot more ballots than the Democrats. They knew it too, which is why Coleman did not want a recount and orignally said that Franken should concede.

When the recount was done the Coleman challenged ballots were accepted. The recount was done in public and observed by members of both parties and shown on the web. You can see many of the disputed ballots and their resolution at this site.
http://senaterecount.startribune.com/ballots/

It was a very open recount that both parties accepted. Now that Coleman lost, he wants a redo even though he originally accepted the rules for the recount.

Lately, the Republicans and their party have become a party of whiners. Grow up and try rebuild the party. Put a some decency back into the party. You're not going to win elections by whining.

Posted by: MikeOLeary | January 5, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

My impression was a of a pretty well run count. I don't expect there to be too many legal problems with it because of that.

If Coleman had won, Franken would be the one going to court, so it's not fair to get too upset over the prerequisite beating of the dead horse.

This was a very close election and I have been impressed with how well behaved the participants have been. With both of them at times facing potential losses, they didn't take Floridian shots at one another, or embarrass the entire country with uncivil disruptions to the electoral process.

Posted by: timscanlon | January 5, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

When claims that Bush stole the election were made, they mocked and sneered. When Democrats threatened filibusters, they whined and cried and threatened the "nuclear option"

Remember the battles a few years ago over the Democrats filibustering Bush's judicial nominees? When Republicans howled in outrage at the terrible unfairness of not allowing every single judicial nominee an up or down vote?

Remember the rantings of Sen. John Kyl, a conservative Republican from Arizona in 2005, who grandly declared that not only must such filibusters be stopped, but pledging to never, ever change his mind when a Democrat is in the White House:

"Republicans seek to right a wrong that has undermined 214 years of tradition - wise, carefully thought-out tradition. The fact that the Senate rules theoretically allowed the filibuster of judicial nominations but were never used to that end is an important indicator of what is right, and why the precedent of allowing up-or-down votes is so well established. It is that precedent that has been attacked and which we seek to restore....

My friends argue that Republicans may want to filibuster a future Democratic President's nominees. To that I say, I don't think so, and even if true, I'm willing to give up that tool. It was never a power we thought we had in the past, and it is not one likely to be used in the future. I know some insist that we will someday want to block Democrat judges by filibuster. But I know my colleagues. I have heard them speak passionately, publicly and privately, about the injustice done to filibustered nominees. I think it highly unlikely that they will shift their views simply because the political worm has turned."

So what do they do now? They threaten to filibuster a senator elected BY THE PEOPLE?

Incredible, even for this crew.

Posted by: monk4hall | January 5, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Hahahaha. Oh my god. How funny is it to see these republicans--and the blogger nutjobs -- falling on the floor and kicking and screaming over this. Seems they've spent the last eight years, mocking, and sneering at what was a clear election theft. You know, the one that put us into Iraq, left a great american city to die, left us with a shredded constitution, a destroyed economy and zero prestige in the world.

But nooooooo ......... When it's THEIR guy, they'll mock and sneer. When it's the OTHER side, no lawsuit is too trivial, no amount of whining too much, no tactic --including filibuster! -- to extreme.

SICK, DISGUSTING HYPOCRITES.

Posted by: monk4hall | January 5, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

"When I say people I mean all of us."

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Now define "us."

Posted by: mattintx | January 5, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Republicans made no secret of their wish to suppress the vote, since Obama's chances of winning rested on getting people Washington ignored to vote.

Now the GOP champions the right for every vote to be counted. Like hell it does.

Posted by: falasifa | January 5, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Is there room for compromise here? Why not let Illinois name Franken as the replacement for Obama and then everybody would be happy. No need for stuff like the economy and Gaza.

Regardless, here is one of Franken's great political speeches, from SNL Weekend Update 1979:

Jane Curtin: Well, the 1970's are in their final month, and with some thoughts on this decade and the one we're about to enter, here's Weekend Update's Social Sciences Editor Al Franken.

Al Franken: Thank you, Jane. Well, the "me" decade is almost over, and good riddance, and far as I'm concerned. The 70's were simply 10 years of people thinking of nothing but themselves. No wonder we were unable to get together and solve any of the many serious problems facing our nation. Oh sure, some people did do some positive things in the 70's - like jogging - but always for the wrong reasons, for their own selfish, personal benefit. Well, I believe the 80's are gonna have to be different. I think that people are going to stop thinking about themselves, and start thinking about me, Al Franken.

That's right. I believe we're entering what I like to call the Al Franken Decade. Oh, for me, Al Franken, the 80's will be pretty much the same as the 70's. I'll still be thinking of me, Al Franken.

But for you, you'll be thinking more about how things affect me, Al Franken.

When you see a news report, you'll be thinking, "I wonder what Al Franken thinks about this thing?", "I wonder how this inflation thing is hurting Al Franken?" And you women will be thinking, "What can I wear that will please Al Franken?", or "What can I not wear?"

You know, I know a lot of you out there are thinking, "Why Al Franken?" Well, because I thought of it, and I'm on TV, so I've already gotten the jump on you. So, I say let's leave behind the fragmented, selfish 70's, and go into the 80's with a unity and purpose. That's what I think. I'm Al Franken. Jane?

Jane Curtin: Thank you, Al. That's the news. Good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Posted by: snlive | January 5, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Justice is Served!

Gonna be fun - Franken elected and the whole Illinois thing - which will end up with him being seated anyway, since the Constitution trumps all, even Executive Orders.

Posted by: WillSeattle | January 5, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Franken is no e. murphy, j. carey or any other A-lister. Even so there is no background in his case to be a US senator anymore than any of you posters or me. Again ask why it took lawsuits to settle this. If you did your duty as a voter in MN you should be mad that the state botched it up like this.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Greatest minds of the 21st Century: "I am proud and humbled..."

Antonyms.

You gotta love the "smart is in" crowd.

Yes, George Bush 2.77 GPA, John Kerry 2.76.

They are all idiots, both parties.

But after a wrestler, a comedian!!!?????

Oy.

Minnesota's so nice
Their votes count twice.

Big Al. The "smarter" alternative.

Posted by: theeasypartsover | January 5, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm amazed to see that so many people don't really know about Al Franken at all. I keep seeing posts describing him as a comedian, a clown, or a celebrity lightwight like Jesse Ventura.

I've seen a most of Franken's Comedy, from SNL sketches to 'Stuart Smalley Saves his Family'. I have read all his books, and I listened regularly to his radio show. Franken is no Carrot Top, No Jesse Ventura, no Ronald Reagan. If anyone who has actually read his books or listened to his radio show thinks otherwise, then I politely say to them, 'you just don't understand - he's a bit too sophisticated for you, or maybe you jsut don't have the gene that understands satire'.

With a degree and a fellowship from Harvard, Franken is undeniably 'smart'. But beyond that, he has consistently demonstrated a wisdom and a compassion, and integrity that too many of our politicians lack, including Norm Coleman.

He certainly did not enter this race for fame, money or validation. He has all three in spades. I might even say that 'Sentaor' is a step down for Franken if I did not believe, as Franken certainly does, that public service, at a practical level, is a virtuous endeavor.

Thanks for your efforts on our behalf, Al. I know the regular guy has a real champion in you.

Posted by: kurthunt | January 5, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

CONGRATS SENATOR FRANKEN! YOU'VE DONE GOOD! THE US SENATE NEEDS MEN LIKE YOU! COLEMAN IS A SORE LOSER! LOOK AT HIM WHINING LIKE A LITTLE GIIIIRRRRRRL! FRANKEN FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: Hillary08 | January 5, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

When I say people I mean all of us. Republicans want republican power, democrats want democrat power. We should want representation first, but that is too idealist in this worl I guess. Ventura did seem to set the stage for such a candidate in MN I guess.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Talk about bitter grapes. Some posters claimed that Franken is/was a mediocre comedian. I guess they forget those early SNL years 1975-1980 that most fans consider their best seasons. Those years when the Franken & Davis duo were original writers for the show and often appeared in skits.

Posted by: lbcentaur | January 5, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Rarely is the question asked: Is our trolls learning?

- - -

"This will comeback three fold on the demo-rats, and bite in there arse's."

Posted by: mattintx | January 5, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Why are votes ever missing or not counted in any election should be investigated aggressively by the public in all cases, but never will if the results suit them.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Which "people" does star_key2 presume to speak for?

Posted by: mattintx | January 5, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

star_key2

How did you feel about Ventura? He was a pro wrestler before he became a public servant. Maybe its an indication of what was before Franken was worse.

Posted by: ged0386 | January 5, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Franken-N-Clown, is just more piece of liberal scum, finding his way to the hill.

This will comeback three fold on the demo-rats, and bite in there arse's.


Posted by: dashriprock | January 5, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Everyone likes to paint this as partisan, but I will say again that it should not take law suits to solve an election. Reform is obviously needed here. Even if you like Franken.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

The GOP was hoping to steal this seat themselves. Darn, if they could just have gotten the recount under the jurisdiction of the Oklahoma Supreme Court instead of cranky old Minnesota...

Posted by: Samson151 | January 5, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

people don't vote for representatives. they vote for power only. Why did it take this process to finally elect someone? even if you like the outcome you should continue to ask questions. Maybe your new senator will be compelled to make election reform his top priority. Given his personal experience in the matter he should. If he doesn't he's going to be lame.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

tharper1 writes
"The Dems say he won."

Actually, its the state canvassing board that says he won.
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And most of the members of the Minnesota state canvassing board are Democrats. But they can be fair—right?

BTW is there any word on how many times ACORN registered Mickey Mouse in Minnesota? I wonder how many times Mickey voted for Big Al? I’m sure all of them were counted.

It all comes down to trust. If we the people don’t have any faith in the fairness of our elections, our democracy is id deep trouble.

The election games in Minnesota don’t give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Posted by: bobmerz47 | January 5, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

59 in 2008.
63 Senate Seats in 2010
The GOP continues its devolution into a regional party, based in the South.

Posted by: bobnsri | January 5, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

star_key2 wrote:
"Big victory? Now a certified clown will be in office."

I think there's plenty of precedent for that.

Posted by: presto668 | January 5, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm far from bitter about Franken. I think Arnold stinks as governor in CA. Besides being a democrat what is/are the past merits of a senator Franken? I am no defending Coleman as voters chose another. Why Al Franken. Did he ever hold any other office or even run a business?

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

DOMESTIC TORTURE VIA RADIATION WEAPONRY:

The nationwide evil that Obama must end.


Read the story that SOMEBODY took down from Politico.com on Friday (with 29 of the author's recent posts). And now he can't access the site (waiting for a call from John Harris...)

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR members.NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 5, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kreuz_missile
“It was those absentee ballots that were improperly rejected (not by the fault of the voter, but by the fault of election officials) that were added back into the count (as agreed to by both sides) that gave Franken his biggest surge in votes. So, once more your ad hominem attacks fail.”
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So using logic has become has become an ad hominem attack?
My statement was an attempt at humor. Obviously elections officials don’t arbitrarily reject absentee ballots. Ballots are typically rejected as a result of some inconsistency.

Posted by: dcn1 | January 5, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Mere words cannot express just how gratifying it is to see the GOP (Greedy Old Pharts) feasting on sour grapes and whine. Best wishes and good luck to Senator Franken!

Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | January 5, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Big victory? Now a certified clown will be in office. He was a mediocre comedian, worse talk show host and now Senator? I know he was the Democrat candidate, but they couldn't find anyone good in Minnesota to run for this? His best qualification was name recognition I guess? Well I don't live in MN and can't claim him accept his federal role. Let's just see how much landmark reform he comes up with. If he can do it Caroline can.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 5, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

The best thing about Franken's victory is the amount of stupid comments that issue forh from the Republicans.


Fo that alone, WAY TO GO AL!

Posted by: edlharris | January 5, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Correct;

Coleman's campaign originally protested EVERY ballot that included votes for both magoo and Franken under the delusion that nobody could possibly have voted for both.

Apparently, ole' Crooked-@SS-Coleman, they CAN vote for both!

HA HA (nelson muntz voiceover from Simpsons).

Posted by: Heerman532 | January 5, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Pretty hilarious seeing all the wimpy whiny Republicans "stamping their feet in anger" here. Looks like the party of TOTAL incompetence and COMPLETE failure are sore LOSERS too. LMAO.

Posted by: wilder5121 | January 5, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Rush Limbaugh; Franken's book was the first to provide sound investigations of ole' lard@ss Limbaugh:

1. Fatboy used to be on welfare;
2. Fatty bought all his food at the local quick-e-mart for years - and that's ALL he ate - no wonder he's such a lard@ss;
3. Tubby didn't clean his house, or cut his lawn or bathe or wash his clothes, so his wife left him;


Yes, no wonder the drug-addled windbag just HATES Franken!!!

Posted by: Heerman532 | January 5, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"The only logical conclusion one could draw from this phenomenon is that the overwhelming majority of illiterates and imbeciles are Democrats."

The real swing dind't come from the "recount," which yielded very little change from the election night returns. The point of the recount was also about getting those votes that were improperly rejected added back into the count, which can only occur during a recount process. It was those absentee ballots that were improperly rejected (not by the fault of the voter, but by the fault of election officials) that were added back into the count (as agreed to by both sides) that gave Franken his biggest surge in votes. So, once more your ad hominem attacks fail.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

The republotards are just mad because Franken's two GREAT books:

1. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them; A fair and balanced look at the right.

and;

2. Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot

are such GREAT books! Boy does Franken know how to slice and dice the reptards!!!

No wonder they hate him.

Posted by: Heerman532 | January 5, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Wonderful. An SNL comedian in the US Senate. What's next, Will Ferrell as US Ambassador to the UN or Mike Myers as Secretary of State?

Oh well, what did you expect from the state who elected Jesse "The Body" Ventura governor? It is hard to believe that this represents the most experienced public statesman that the people of Minnesota could select to represent them in the most important legislative body in the world. What is wrong with the people up there? Do they think that our government is one big joke?

Posted by: hisroc | January 5, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

So, how is Coleman going to win when he has fewer votes? Seems like a sore loser to me. Let him exhaust all the legal recourses if he wishes, that is his right, but courts don't like to overturn a majority decision by the people. Nor should they. Look what happened when they appointed George W. Bush. It was a disaster for the country. It will be a disaster for the country if Coleman wins after losing the vote.

Posted by: bghgh | January 5, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Slow down, zouk, you have eight years of an Obama Administration to get through. Pace yourself!

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 5, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

JohnInMPls writes
"I said it when Coleman was announced the winner, and I'll say it again now that Franken has been declared the winner. There should be a runoff."

That may be an appropriate change to make for future elections. I also like the IRV proposal that we get to try in 2010.

If we go with run-offs though, I would impose them the way many other states do: if nobody wins the majority, hold a runoff between the top 2. We haven't had a Gov win a majority since Carlson; Coleman didn't win a majority in his first Senate race either.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Senator Al Franken will take Joe Biden's job in the senate as being Condescendor - in - chief. It a perfect fit of liberal elitism and comedy.

Posted by: ohmd | January 5, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Actually, part of Franken's success in the recount owed to the fact that some rural precincts use some pretty outdated voting machines. The recount brought a few more votes to the DFL.

But really, the recount produced a swing of 440 votes. Considering the fact that over 2,900,000 votes were cast, a margin of error of just .015% seems reasonable. Hard to call shenanigans when we're dealing with such a small number.

I said it when Coleman was announced the winner, and I'll say it again now that Franken has been declared the winner. There should be a runoff.

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The only logical conclusion one could draw from this phenomenon is that the overwhelming majority of illiterates and imbeciles are Democrats.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 5, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

"Millions... disenfranchised" if Franken won?

It's called a democracy. A close vote doesn't equal disfranchisement. You voted... you lost. Deal with it.

Funny how the Republicans didn't mind a too-close-to-call vote count so much when they had to call in their Supreme Court buddies to make the first Dumbya term a reality... now the shoe's on the other foot and they're screaming and yelling. Whatever. They dragged this country down the toilet with the help of borderline-fraudulent election practices in Florida eight years ago. If they are now on the losing side of that equation, all I have to say is, where is my tiny violin?

Posted by: jamshark70 | January 5, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Remember Florida 2000! The RepuliSCUMS now know how it feels, ROTF-LMAO. These last two years have been absolutely dreadful for the RePUKElicans. They keep losing seats left and right. The loss control of the house and senate. The resoundingly got thumped in the presidential election. Aslong as they keep producing candidates like GW and Palin, the losses will continue. I guess Rove was wrong about the perpetual RepubliKLAN majority. ROTF-LMAO!

Posted by: jabreal00 | January 5, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Franken will fit right in. his vast experience at running businesses into the ground, not paying taxes, spending mountains of other people's money, trying hard to be funny and failing, stealing and cheating, cursing and vulgarities and basic non-sensical statements make him a perfect representative of the PeLousy/spineless congress. this clown will not even stand out. just another one of the group of clowns.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Actually, its the state canvassing board that says he won.
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Bah, a mere technicality :P

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

tharper1 writes
"The Dems say he won."

Actually, its the state canvassing board that says he won.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

PROUD - feeling pleasure or satisfaction over something regarded as highly honorable or creditable to oneself (often fol. by of, an infinitive, or a clause).
2. having, proceeding from, or showing a high opinion of one's own dignity, importance, or superiority.


or

HUMBLE - not proud or arrogant; modest: to be humble although successful.
2. having a feeling of insignificance, inferiority, subservience, etc.: In the presence of so many world-famous writers I felt very humble.


I can predict how this moron's votes will go:

I wish to not only vote for the amendment but protest against it in the strongest terms. this is Lib intelligence on display.
I declare victory and wish to redeploy in defeat.

I wish to frugally apply an enormous stimulus.

I am going to award non-taxpayers a tax refund.

I guess all Libs suffer this problem. Depends on the word "is" doesn't it?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

johnbsmrk writes
"Coleman should do the decent thing. If he doesn't it will just be to prevent Franken being seated for a few months and thereby curtailing the Democratic majority. It's hard to believe this is going to do him much good in MN."


Rumor II in local media has Coleman becoming the new chair of the RNC.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Now Coleman can go to court to contest the election at the same time he faces the music for illegal campaign contributions. Maybe he will win the election and be convicted on the same day! Republican Senators make great convicts.

Posted by: branfo4 | January 5, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

A failed comedian is the perfect face for the new Democfrat party. The guy could't even make it as a talk show host on a Soros subsidized radio satation.

Now he wants to be a senator. The Dems say he won.

Just don't look too closely at the ink on the "ballots" it's not quite dry yet.

So much for free elections in the USA. Maybe we do need observers from the EU to certify fairness.

Posted by: tharper1 | January 5, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

"I am proud and humbled "


and apparently confused and idiotic.

Posted by: king_of_zouk
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Why are we talking about your biography?

Posted by: LABC | January 5, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

dcn1 elicited a hearty laugh here with this comment:

"It seems to be a recurrent theme. Whenever state elections officials attempt to decipher botched ballots filled out by voters who can’t follow simple instructions (vote for only one, punch one etc.) it always seems to work in favor of the Democrat party.

"The only logical conclusion one could draw from this phenomenon is that the overwhelming majority of illiterates and imbeciles are Democrats."

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There's a ring of truth to that, but a person who'd come to that conclusion might have to change their mind if they began reading comment boxes on the Washington Post.

Posted by: officermancuso | January 5, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

The only logical conclusion one could draw from this phenomenon is that the overwhelming majority of illiterates and imbeciles are Democrats.
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Yes, because Florida obviously went in favor of the Democrats. Perhaps its more of a sign that the current voting system is flawed, and has been for years? Maybe we should think about retooling the way voting is done? I mean we are a world where technology rules, and yet we still vote in archaic methods? Doesn't seem right to me. Yes, I know that there are multitudes of potential problems with the electronic age, but the benefits outweigh the problems in my opinion.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"I am proud and humbled "


and apparently confused and idiotic.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Franken's won this. The recount was hand checked every step of the way with monitors from both sides. Conservatives are essentially reduced to arguing the MN SoS is a crook along with several members of the MN supreme court. They are not. Coleman should do the decent thing. If he doesn't it will just be to prevent Franken being seated for a few months and thereby curtailing the Democratic majority. It's hard to believe this is going to do him much good in MN.

Posted by: johnbsmrk | January 5, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

edcoleman wrote, "Correction - the Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court is not Alan Page, it's Eric Magnuson (who sat on the State Canvassing board)"

I'd find the whole litigious mess more amusing if the Chief Justice were Julia Sweeney in her role as Pat.

Posted by: officermancuso | January 5, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

It seems to be a recurrent theme. Whenever state elections officials attempt to decipher botched ballots filled out by voters who can’t follow simple instructions (vote for only one, punch one etc.) it always seems to work in favor of the Democrat party.

The only logical conclusion one could draw from this phenomenon is that the overwhelming majority of illiterates and imbeciles are Democrats.

Posted by: dcn1 | January 5, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

He's barely coherent

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how else could Libs follow along? I tried to make sense but all the Libs looked vacant. Maybe umm, you know, like Caroline, could, you know,like, umm, well, you see, treat us to her, you know, analysis, on the like, topic.

Maybe the Kennedy cat could keep the seat warm until the rapist gets out of jail. or is it rehab this month?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk can't even fill an alphabet with his list of "crooks". I can fill a DICTIONARY with Bush/GOP criminals, without even thinking hard.

Anybody that wants to see what the Republican Party has become just needs to look at republicanoffenders (dot com)...only about 400 Republican "crooks" listed - so it's obviously a work in progress - and all nicely organized by category ("Pedophilia", "Rapists", "Murder", etc.) for your convenience.

Posted by: wilder5121 | January 5, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

The repubes are in high voice today!! Yes, it would be nice to see LimbauOreillCoultHaninsertyourfavneoconhere's head explode!!! Except that I never watch or listen to any of them...I'm sure Olberman will have highlites..

Posted by: JoePantes | January 5, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

that was not the ______________ I thought I knew.

(a) Zoukmeister
(b) Zoukeroonie
(c) Zoukalastic
(d) Zouktastic
(e) Dianne72
(f) Diannne72
(g) Dian7211
(h) 36th & Q Avenue
(i) 37th & O
(j) JakeA
(k) JakeB
(l) JakeC
(m) JaneD
(z) None of the above

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 5, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Fun to watch? He's barely coherent (and even that much is subject to debate) - unless he's posting something he found on some wingnut site. Seriously, if they ban him, I'll pretend to be him, only funnier and a lot more original. How's that?

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He's going to be so much fun to watch over the next eight years (provided he doesn't keel over from a rage-induced stroke or coronary).

Posted by: Bondosan


>>>>>>>>>>>


Watching you mad-Libs try to govern is like a toddler making waffles. I can't wait for Spineless to block the Senate floor tomorrow. the next day, hopey Mcchange will announce he has formed an opinion. details to follow. then of course another Lib will be caught stealing the following day. then nancy will force through trillions in spending with no debate and no vote. then hopey McChange will appoint the guy from Boston Legal to commerce. then the press will declare it all brilliant beyond belief. Libs, being gullible and uncritical, will go along merrily.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"The Coleman campaign has consistently and continually fought to have every validly cast vote counted, and for the integrity of Minnesota's election system, we will not stop now."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Coleman campaign the one begging the Franken campaign to stop the recount back in November when they were narrowly ahead, even though it was state law that the recount had to continue, and there was nothing that Al Franken could have done about it? When are people going to learn that in this day of Google, your remarks live forever?

Posted by: SteveFromWV | January 5, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

According to local reports, the Coleman campaign announced within minutes that they would file a lawsuit within 24 hours.

In other reports, the former Senator's offices have been closed.
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So they're basically saying that, although they know they've already lost, that they're still going to waste the courts and taxpayers time and money?

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

XanderB writes
"And there you have it. They have officially announced that Al Franken is the victor. Now, place your bets for how long before Coleman tries to take it to court."

According to local reports, the Coleman campaign announced within minutes that they would file a lawsuit within 24 hours.

In other reports, the former Senator's offices have been closed.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Correction - the Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court is not Alan Page, it's Eric Magnuson (who sat on the State Canvassing board)

Posted by: edcoleman | January 5, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"uhmmmm...o.k. You haven't let go you poor baby. You still think republican's (you know, the ones that got us in this mess) are popular in regard to the real people of America that "overwhelmingly" voted for President Barack Hussien Obama!"

Did you even bother to read my post? We're on the same side genius.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"It must be hard finding a Lib with intelligence."

Considering that the wingnuts thought there was WMD in Iraq, and couldn't find any, its quite comforting that you feel you can't find an intelligent *ah* 'Lib' as you would put it. Of course, I also believe you couldn't find your way out of a paper bag based on what I've seen so far.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans cannot afford to filibuster, the economy gets worse, and they will inhibit the change we need, we will all know its their fault. Bush let his cronies run the country and they screwed the government all up, and there is no doubt many of our problems are somehow his fault. If the Republicans filibuster, their filibuster privileges will definitely go away by January 2011, and it looks very possible it will even if they act their best based on the mess they made for the past eight years.

Posted by: hp7fab4MOdem | January 5, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

that was not the ______________ I thought I knew.

A) Rev Wright
B) tony Rezco
C) bill ayers
D)Louis Farakhan
E) Bernadine dohrn
F) Rahm Emmanual
G) Hot Rod Blagojovich
H)Frank davis
I) Rashid Khalidi
J) Michael Phleger
K) ACORN community
L) Jim Johnson
M) Eric holder
N) Marc Rich
o) bill Richardson
P) all of the above

gonna need a new alphabet soon considering all the klinton krooks coming back.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

And there you have it. They have officially announced that Al Franken is the victor. Now, place your bets for how long before Coleman tries to take it to court.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Xander, can't say I'm rattled..........it's just a pain to scroll through all zouk's idiotic comments to read the intelligent ones.
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Oh you'd have far more than just Zouk's posts to scroll through if you're looking for intelligent posts :P

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Xander, can't say I'm rattled..........it's just a pain to scroll through all zouk's idiotic comments to read the intelligent ones.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 5, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Awww, c'mon Anthony. Needling the likes of Zouk and Diane72111111 is way too much fun. Besides, all we'd be left with then is Scrivener's conspiracy theories. Way too convoluted to be fun.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 5, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

another week in Neocon typography:

In a mistaken effort to filibuster the web, Zouk's modem melts down in a pool of sludge.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 5, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Zouk the Puke is really off the wall today. His mom must have grounded him until he cleans his room.
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I love it. Zouk does nothing but post things that are meant to rattle people's chains, and inevitably it always works.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, please people! Stop responding to the unpatriotic king-of-zouk! He is a troll, and like all internet trolls loves to see others react to his drivel. Just remember that in his world the only true Americans are Republicans, and that everyone else is stupid/a traitor/ a communist/ corrupt/ etc, and you will see why it is pointless even attempting a discussion with him.

Posted by: anthonyrimell | January 5, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Zouk the Puke is really off the wall today. His mom must have grounded him until he cleans his room.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 5, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

His reason for not wanting the recount was OBSTENSIBLY to save the taxpayers money. But now he wants the taxpayers to spend MUCH more money to have another election.
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Indeed, and it just goes to show the mentality of today's Repubs. What they say only applies to others, and not themselves.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

First Coleman was a sore winner, criticizing Franken for not conceding so that there would be no recount. Now he is a sore loser, demanding that more ballots be counted or that there be another election.

His reason for not wanting the recount was OBSTENSIBLY to save the taxpayers money. But now he wants the taxpayers to spend MUCH more money to have another election.

Posted by: dotellen | January 5, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

The Democrates will seat Burris and Franken because they need the votes. Caroline Kennedy will also be the next Senator from NewYork. This will be payback to the Republicans from Election 2000 Gore vs Bush. The Republicans will do themselves in by rejecting our popular president OBAMA stimulus package and soon to be Attorney General Eric Holder. Republicans need to shut up and get out of the way!!!!!!1

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | January 5, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

another week in Lib governenace:

Frank offers free parking on Capitol hill to anyone who will still sleep with him.

Maher is cancelled after his last two viewers who still think "George Bush is dumb" jokes is worth watching, forget to breath.

Murtha accuses the Army of killing people. Informs us he is a racist like everyone else up north.

cynthia McKinney is declared sane, cured with baclava.

congress votes to pay the first lady $3 trillion per year, to spread around as she sees fit.

Ted Kennedy redraws his will, bequeths his senate seat to a pack of barabuda monkeys, who have demonstrated more intelligence than the rest of the chamber. his relatives begin campaigning in governor offices nationwide.

Obama's birth cerfiticket is found somewhere in Indonesia. Press refuses to report this rumor.

economy melts down entirely. Hopey Mcchange leaves on extended hwaiin triup, tells congress to call him if they need him. he has not decided yet......on anything. girls still waiting for puppy. "It's complicated" reports the NYtimes in its final edition before McCain's lover takes ownership.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Harry Reid and the democrats are behaving like Republicans. It is very sad, They should seat the appointee in the senate and let IL State legislature and the US Attorney in Chicago do what their duties demand.
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As long as Burris is properly vetted beforehand, I see no problem with this. But just allowing him to take the seat without checking up on him really worries me.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't use the term "lib" if I shilled for the party of Randy Cunningham and Bernard Kerik. Just saying.

Posted by: mattintx | January 5, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

We the American take pride in abide by the law of the land and claim no one is above the law. We also brag about no one is guilty until proven guilty in a court of law.

I have two issues.

1. Gov of Illinois is not guilty. He is not charged and a case pending. The prosecutor wants more time to bring it the court. That means he is still innocent. I am law enforcement official and I see these the way the process is define to work.
2. Since the Gov is leally in office and signing all the bills and checks the state expects him to do his duties. Under that he has the right to appoint a person. That person is a qualified and not an idiot. So he should be seated.

Harry Reid and the democrats are behaving like Republicans. It is very sad, They should seat the appointee in the senate and let IL State legislature and the US Attorney in Chicago do what their duties demand.

No point of going back. Its Done.

Posted by: LoganKalay | January 5, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

hey king_of_zouk....why do you hate America so much?

Posted by: patrick69_69 | January 5, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I really enjoyed Olbermann in the beginning but he became something of a "one trick pony" for me. I wish the wingnuts would have the same discernment about Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Orally.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 5, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

thoughts from a famous Lib editor:

""Um, this is a fairly unique moment both in our, you know, in our country’s history, and, and in, in, you know, my own life, and um, you know, we are facing, you know, unbelievable challenges, our economy, you know.""

SNL couldn't write this any funnier. Maybe if they had a Senator on the writing staff - or two.


which is more amusing, a barrel full of monkeys or the Lib legislature?

Trick question.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

the following week in Lib news:

Clinton holds fundraiser in Gaza hospital.

Hopey McChange prepares for big speech, Press declares it a marvel. Federal government is given the month off with pay to celebrate.

al gore pleads for global warming initiative, spectators frozen indoors, unable to attend.

PeLousy suspends rules of House, declares Repubs out of place.

spineless harry declares all 41 Repubs are out of order and will be removed. Later he admits someone fed him esspresso and showed him his photos from gilbert and sullivan reruns.

Dodd admits he had no idea what a mortgage was.

Wrangle confesses to tax fraud. Promises to pass many laws prohibiting what he did.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Zouk...Sometimes your nicknames are evil but sometimes they are just confusing...Who is Hopey McChange? I get Obambi...more stupid than evil, but Hopey McChange? Sounds like the New Product Development VP at McDonalds.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 5, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

McChange will appoint the guy from Boston Legal to commerce. then the press will declare it all brilliant beyond belief. Libs, being gullible and uncritical, will go along merrily.
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Could you imagine William Shatner as the house speaker? I would watch Cspan everyday!

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Coleman was attempting to stop the accurate counting of votes in Minnesota---in classic "Bush-Baker-Harris Florida 2000" style way back in early November. Luckily, he wasn't able to get away with it.

Coleman lost this election. And now, conservatives are typically looking for someone else to demonize and blame for this. Can't Republicans take any personal responsibility for anything at all?
Posted by: snesich | January 5, 2009 3:36 PM -----------------------------------------
They won't. Both parties agreed to the recount rules but now that Norm has lost he wants to go to the courts to change the rules.

The Republicans constantly decry judicial activism. But when they want something, then very quickly they run to the courts and expect the courts to be "active" on their behalf.

Lately, they have shown us that they have become the party of whiners.

Instead of constantly whining, I suggest they rebuild and try to put some decency back into their party.

Posted by: MikeOLeary | January 5, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

This has been a long drawn out process but the confusion has been generated by the political parties and the news media. The election officials have methodically hand counted each legal ballot, one by one, while observed by members of each party. The event was triggered because the error rate of the optical scanners was greater than the differences between the vote totals of Coleman and Franken. The State of Minnesota has set a high standard for the rest of the nation. The State of Florida especially should take notice.

Posted by: Thependulumswings | January 5, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

ummm....."closing the window" touched me off on a tangent...not so relevant to the subject of this report.

But it just seems that the courts and the political parties are increasingly "augmenting" the vote of the public.

Posted by: paultaylor1 | January 5, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Xander, I can't make it through more than 5 minutes of watching Olbermann or listening to Limbaugh.

I respectfully disagree with you and I'll leave it there.

Posted by: politicalchampionshipwrestling | January 5, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

a spine of jello:

Reid, who once said the Senate would never seat anyone appointed by Blagojevich, is now saying, "anything can happen." Another bold and adamant pledge, looking shaky.

My governor, Democrat Tim Kaine, has taken a part-time job running the DNC. Some of us thought running a state was a full-time job, but maybe Blagojevich made the case that a governorship just isn't lucrative enough.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Zouk...Thank you for reinforcing every irrational, hateful, over-the-top, negative stereotype I cherish about Republican extremists.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 5, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

He's going to be so much fun to watch over the next eight years (provided he doesn't keel over from a rage-induced stroke or coronary).

Posted by: Bondosan


>>>>>>>>>>>


Watching you mad-Libs try to govern is like a toddler making waffles. I can't wait for Spineless to block the Senate floor tomorrow. the next day, hopey Mcchange will announce he has formed an opinion. details to follow. then of course another Lib will be caught stealing the following day. then nancy will force through trillions in spending with no debate and no vote. then hopey McChange will appoint the guy from Boston Legal to commerce. then the press will declare it all brilliant beyond belief. Libs, being gullible and uncritical, will go along merrily.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Keith Olbermann, Ann Coulter = pre-law, pre-med same thing. And don't kid yourself, having Keith Olbermann anchor MSNBC's political coverage is no different than Fox News letting Coulter or Limbaugh anchor their's.
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This is true, but Olbermann does not have the same mentality of the latter two you noted. He tries to be as non-partisan a liberal as possible. Limbaugh and Coulter, rather than try to be forthcoming, decide rather to attack with anything they can come up with just for the sake of ratings (read "Coulter the Fashion Consultant). Could you imagine if they were calling this last election? It would have been pure pandemonium.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Otto4...I have reported Zouk several times and referenced dates and times of some of his posts...Give it a try. Maybe if enough people cry foul, he will be removed.

I reported him for racist comments. His childish rant just proves his lack of intelligence. Some of his comments prior to the election were blatantly racist.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 5, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Logorrhea. Did someone wake up on the methamphetamine side of the bed today?

Posted by: mattintx | January 5, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Reps. Reid and Pelosi helped "close the window" on Hillary Clinton in the primary. They decided not to count the primary votes of Michigan and Florida. It never did make much sense why they did it, or why their primary rules don't allow states to have a voice in when they hold their primaries.

Now they are closing another window. This window seems to be a rather drafty one, with the leaky air putting a chill on the political system, again, like it did when they gave the primary election to Sen. Obama.

It seems rather weak that the Democrats would hold up the appointment of a clean, capable candidate simply because the Governor who legally drafted him, is accused of misconduct, maybe illegal conduct, in bartering positions and money through the auspices of his office.

Yes, Gov. Blagojevich is under investigation. But that investigation will not turn up anything of a payoff in the case of seating Roland Burris in the Senate. And the Democrats are not considering such a scenario. They simply say the Governor is morally bankrupt; therefore his appointments should be rendered null and void.

Well, this governor has not been impeached, nor even convicted of an impeachable offense, to date. So we have to wonder how far can the Democrats can run with this logic. Will they reject every decision and act this governor will make? Can they? Can they even get away with rejecting his Senate choice?

Posted by: paultaylor1 | January 5, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

97% of the American people don't give a hoot. 2% (one state in fifty), and the 1% that are American second to their party. Ok make that 96% that don't give a hoot.

It was fun when Florida did it, with the Supreme Court and all. This is a pathetic. Let’s secede them to Canada until they come up with something original.

Posted by: DonJasper | January 5, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Crooks and clowns:

It doesn’t matter that Tammany and its mini-Tammanys across the country perfected a system of graft and corruption under the guise of helping the “little guy.” It doesn’t matter that, at various times, a coalition of gangsters, criminals, and Democratic politicians has seized, held, and operated whole states as criminal enterprises:

Louisiana, where from Jean Lafitte to Huey Long to Edwin Edwards, crime has paid handsomely in this formerly one-party state. Laissez les bon temps rouler!

New Jersey, where the cozy relationship between the Mob and Trenton is well documented, and where former senator Bob Torricelli — the Torch — loudly proclaimed his innocence in a fundraising scandal right up to the moment he flamed out and quit his reelection race.

Arkansas, whose governors and U.S. senators were for many years on the gangland payroll run out of Hot Springs by transplanted Tammany gangster Owney Madden, acting in concert with Frank Costello and Meyer Lansky.

Illinois, where, in a fit of affirmative action, we’ve brought both Republicans and the Jake Lingle Memorial Media into the fold, so that they can go to jail just like Democrats on the rare occasions they’re caught and convicted.

None of it matters. We keep on peddling the same shtick and the suckers keep on buying, and the bigger Big Government gets, the more adherents we garner. Pretty soon, if it hasn’t happened already, the Party of Take will be bigger than the Party of Give and then the Party really will be over. I just hope I’m long retired to my Countrywide-financed estate in Bayonne before it happens.

Which is why this Fitzgerald character has me a little worried. We loved him when we thought he was going to take down Darth Cheney, and even though all he threw us was the scalp of Marc Rich’s lawyer, Scooter Libby, we took our Fitzmas where we could find it. But now that he’s knee-deep in Blagojevich, we’re beginning to change our tune, and the deeper he digs, the more he’s starting to resemble Thomas Dewey. There are even rumblings that, having requested a three-month extension to bring an indictment against Hot Rod, Paddy Fitz might be looking at a Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) beef against the whole darn Combine. Mother of Mercy!

But not to worry: BO Jr., can always do what his Democrat predecessor, Bill Clinton, did and fire every single one of the federal prosecutors, P. J. Fitzgerald, Esq., most certainly included. Luckily, folks will still be too busy sleeping off their hangovers and beginning the gestation period of their new babies to notice.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Send in the clowns:

We are the party of Barack Obama and the Daley Machine; the party of the Clintons and their amazing alchemistic Library, which turns Saudi dross into altruistic gold; the party of Tony Rezko and Norman Hsu; the party of vaporizing fundraisers, absconding bagmen and sitting New Mexico governors (and a recent presidential “candidate”) currently under federal investigation for allegedly steering a state contract in the direction of one of his big backers, David Rubin of CDR Financial Products in Beverly Hills. Now comes word that Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state-designate, Congress and the Emoluments Clause willing, got millions of dollars for a mall in Syracuse shortly after the developer coughed up a hundred grand for the Bill Clinton “Foundation.” That’s what I call commerce!

We are also the party of Charlie Rangel, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, who’s currently under “investigation” by the House “Ethics” Committee for a myriad of dubious practices, including using campaign contributions to pay his parking tickets.

Best of all, we are the party of the ineffable Christopher Dodd (D., Countrywide), another recent “presidential candidate” who in appearance and demeanor is a throwback to the great days of Tammany mugs. It was Dodd, the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, who got a sweetheart mortgage deal as a “Friend of Angelo” Mozilo, the disgraced former head of Countrywide Financial; Dodd who steadfastly denied that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in trouble — perhaps his status as the No. 1 recipient of their campaign largesse had something to do with his unshakeable faith in them; and Dodd who has promised to release the paperwork concerning his hinky mortgages but, of course, hasn’t.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"Of course the Dems have been just as bad. Look at all the hate-filled speeches they're had at rallies. Wait...Ok, umm...Well how about those political ads they used that showed people as Atheistic and evil?....oh, right...ok...umm...I'll get back to you on this one."

Let's see:

Air America, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly = pre-law, pre-med, same thing.

Keith Olbermann, Ann Coulter = pre-law, pre-med same thing. And don't kid yourself, having Keith Olbermann anchor MSNBC's political coverage is no different than Fox News letting Coulter or Limbaugh anchor their's.

Or in another analogy:
Florida vs. Oklahoma in the big money bowl system that's exclusionary against non-BCS schools...errr...I mean the BCS championship game = Republicans vs. Democrats.

Unbeathen Utah = Regular people who don't have the cash to play in our political system.

And Loose Cannons and Other Weapons of Mass Political Destruction is light years better than anything Franken, Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly et al has written.

Posted by: politicalchampionshipwrestling | January 5, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Heerman wrote this...I can't wait to see Rove, Miers, Addington and Yoo sitting in a jail some where for ignoring subpoenas!!!

Heerman...Here's the bad news. The NY Times gave Yoo and that blowhard Bolton space to opine about the potential misuse by Obama of the treaty approval system as provided by the constitution. If any apparatchick has done more to undermine the constitution than John Yoo, I don't know who it is. The Republicans are shameless...Limbaugh and Co. have derided the "victim mentality" of their opponents for years. They never hesitate top play the victim card when the shoe is on the other foot. Fat doper Limbaugh constantly skewers fat dopers. Torture Yoo lambasts those that might undermine the constitution. Election stealers extraordinairefrom the GOP decry a "stolen" election.

If nothing else the GOP is clearly the party of the double standard.

I've got your "family values" right here.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 5, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Minnasota the amazing.

Minnesota is apparently about to be the only state in the union to be represented in the US Senate by a very unfunny comedian.

It must be the cold in the winter. It freezes their brains.

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | January 5, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm still confused by the math of this recount. how can the dems claim that Coleman still wouldn't have enough votes to overtake Franken's 225 vote lead even if all of his (Coleman's) challenges were upheld. for starters, there's the 654 excluded ballots. how is it not feasible (even if unlikely) that a 225 vote margin could be erased if that many extra ballots were added to the equation? am I missing something?
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I think that they are calculating that even if the majority of those were in Coleman's favor, there would still be enough in Franken's favor to keep the scale tipped in his favor. Not all of the 654 would obviously be in Coleman's favor.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, please don't ban Zouk.

I love him.

His psychopathic derangement make my day.

He's going to be so much fun to watch over the next eight years (provided he doesn't keel over from a rage-induced stroke or coronary).

Posted by: Bondosan | January 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Dennis Miller used to be SO funny when he was on Saturday Night Live.

Who knew his "true" colors?

Poor guy, funny no more. ANYTHING for a buck, huh?

He's finally made the big-time. Kind of like that Howie guy who found HIS niche selling boxes with prizes in them.

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

If the Republicans can just get a lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court, then Clarence Thomas & Co. will assure that Coleman holds onto his seat, regardless of the vote count.

Posted by: HughBriss | January 5, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

even the state's most famous "ultra-liberal paper, the Minnesota Star Tribune", endorsed his opponent, Senator Norm Coleman.

once again you prove that you Know Nothing zouk. The Star Tribune and is published in conservative St.Paul.They said absolutely nothing when Congresswoman Bachmann vowed a McCarthy investigation of Congress.


"Newsroom cutbacks make it more difficult to provide smart, in-depth election coverage. Perhaps more telling at the Strib, though, has been the long-running war conservatives have waged against the paper, led by bloggers such as Ed Morrissey, Hugh Hewitt, and those at Power Line.

Their relentless cries of liberal media bias appear to have paid off. As one Strib veteran put it last year:

The right-wing blog voices that were bashing the paper a couple of years ago, Hugh Hewitt and the rest, have gotten pretty much everything they wanted. They wanted to get rid of people like [editorial board members] Jim Boyd and Susan Albright and their editorial policy, and they've succeeded at that. Now there won't be editorials about the war and global warming; they'll write about local issues like zoning conflicts in Coon Rapids instead. They wanted the paper to hire a conservative columnist, and they got that. From here on out, it looks like the Strib becomes the conservative, suburbs-oriented paper."


Posted by: leichtman | January 5, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

This is so great!! Minnesota is cool, electing former wrasslers and comedians to lead their State. Yes, Al is as far left as they come, but think of the entertainment value! And think of how he balances out people like Helms and the other righties. What? Helms is gone, you say? Wee, even better! Go Al! Go Israel!!
Go USA!!! Go Eagles!!!!

Posted by: JoePantes | January 5, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

It must be hard finding a Lib with intelligence.
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Well that depends on your definition of the word "intelligence".

Now where's Monica?

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Coleman was attempting to stop the accurate counting of votes in Minnesota---in classic "Bush-Baker-Harris Florida 2000" style way back in early November. Luckily, he wasn't able to get away with it.

Coleman lost this election. And now, conservatives are typically looking for someone else to demonize and blame for this. Can't Republicans take any personal responsibility for anything at all?

I do relish the thought of Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and Dennis Miller types reading this news. It's going to be such fun, knowing they have to swallow a very, very bitter pill.

Congratulations Senator Al Franken! You won a hard battle fair and square. You deserve this seat. Godspeed to you in your new job!

Posted by: snesich | January 5, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm still confused by the math of this recount. how can the dems claim that Coleman still wouldn't have enough votes to overtake Franken's 225 vote lead even if all of his (Coleman's) challenges were upheld. for starters, there's the 654 excluded ballots. how is it not feasible (even if unlikely) that a 225 vote margin could be erased if that many extra ballots were added to the equation? am I missing something?

Posted by: eomcmars | January 5, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

How can the party of Sonny Bono, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ronald Reagan complain about "celebrity" candidates?

Funny, Ann Coulter and Al Franken basically do the same thing and yet he's a US Senator and no state in the union would elect Coulter and she stuck ragging on Fist Lady Michelle Obama's fashion style on Fox & Friends (any 40-something woman in a ridiculously high miniskirt shouldn't be throwing stone).

Quick question, are those 150 ballots truly counted twice or is it a Coleman supporter talking point similar to the debunked myth of the car trunk ballots that Governor Pawlenty was falsely spreading on Hannity & Colmes?

Posted by: Corey_NY | January 5, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

In the name of Paul Wellstone, may this be a Democratic seat once again! Paul Wellstone was such a good man. The antithesis of the nastiness that characterizes the right-wing hate goons.

Posted by: pcc7407 | January 5, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"Fairness doctrine" is the new "war on Christmas."

Posted by: mattintx | January 5, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON – Two Democratic officials say President-elect Barack Obama has chosen former Clinton White House chief of staff Leon Panetta to run the CIA.

Panetta was a surprise pick for the post, with no experience in the intelligence world.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Experience, we don't need no stinkin experience. we are contributors.

It must be hard finding a Lib with intelligence.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Why "worry" about "Zouk?"

He (or she) is more than likely some lonely person, who is gatting a kick out of "pushing your buttons." Obviously he is a fool and should not be taken seriously.

He is just one of many fools out there. You certainly know that.
Let him whine, rant and "giggle" in front of his computer.

He REALLY could not be THAT dumb. He is just playing with your mind. Don't let him.

Sounds like he is about twenty. A mere kid.

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Otto4...I have reported Zouk several times and referenced dates and times of some of his posts

>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wahhhhh, hopey, hopey, please use the fairness doctrine and force people to ignore sane ideas and listen to our leftist moonbat drivel. we stand no chance if left to struggle with Lib platitudes.

Signed - a clueless Lib.

PS - throw some money my way. I contributed. Or if you have a spare Senate seat availalble, I edited a book once and would be very grateful ($$$) , know what I mean ;)

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, obviously I meant 'the Democrats haven't been as nasty, vicious, ...."
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Of course the Dems have been just as bad. Look at all the hate-filled speeches they're had at rallies. Wait...Ok, umm...Well how about those political ads they used that showed people as Atheistic and evil?....oh, right...ok...umm...I'll get back to you on this one.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, look forward to seeing Bill O'Reilly's head explod when he has to say the words "Senator Al Franken."

The people who ACORN and other voter registration organizations of fraud are simply mad that their efforts to suppress the vote have failed. Even with a republican justice department and all of the wiles of Karl "the traitor" Rove, ACORN comes out clean. That's because they follow the law.

I wonder if Al will get involved with The Capital Steps?

Posted by: bizecology | January 5, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

tweldy:
Progress the conversation? Kind of like "kids," huh?

ACTUALLY, "kids" will usually stand up and fight IF they think they have a chance. At the very least they will try to get even.

It is adults, after years of "brainwashing and civility" (hee-hee), and the prospe t of going to prison- who opt to "turn the other cheek."

Hence the MESS we are in as a nation. Why run with your tail between your legs, in the course of conversation? why be politically correct, or try not to "step-on-the-other's-toes?"

If you are disgusted with a comment or disgree with a particular point of view or mind-set, why not VOICE that position?

Maybe if MOReE people were not afraid of showing their contempt, for things they see as wrong or mismanaged, MAYBE "those in power" will improve the conditions for us all?

No, I disagree with the concept of discussion (if it diverges)as being "childish." I will however, suggest that some folks on these sights are RATHER BASIC, in terms of conversations and therefore revert to a "more childlike" way of conversing, merely because they are usually uneducated, narrow-minded, and have no verbal skills to really bwe proud of.

I say, "attack and YEE shall be attacked." "Show respect and be accorded the same."

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"tweldy-

Sorry, you're not going to convince me or any fair minded, unpartisan biased person that the Democrats have been just as nasty, vicious, and hateful as the Republicans over the past 8 years."

Sorry, obviously I meant 'the Democrats haven't been as nasty, vicious, ...."

Posted by: politicalchampionshipwrestling | January 5, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Hip Hip Hooray.

Posted by: blakesouthwood | January 5, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Another stolen election. The era of change is non-change.

Posted by: GloomBoomDotcom | January 5, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats needed one more seat,60 in the Senate to stop a filibuster, maybe next election. I guess we will just have to live with 59 seats for awhile.

Posted by: shipfreakbo214 | January 5, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Otto4...I have reported Zouk several times and referenced dates and times of some of his posts...Give it a try. Maybe if enough people cry foul, he will be removed.
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I wish you the best of luck in your venture. You are correct, if enough people report then he will be removed...in 4-6 months. The Report Abuse button is so overused that the moderators have to constantly sift between the real reports and the "I don't like this guy so I'm going to report him in hopes he will get banned" ones.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"She also came out in favor of censoring her political opponents via the Fairness Doctrine."
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Just curious, if conservatives believe in the "Liberal Media" (I hear them crying about it all the time) then I would think they would all be in favor of reinstating "The Fairness Doctrine" but instead they've turned it into some kind of grand conspiracy to silence their drug-addled superstar Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 5, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

It looks as if the only difference that Hopey McChange is going to bring to Washiington is that honesty and integrity is a thing of the past. From now on, it is line your pocket while the stealing is good.

the chairman of the ways and means is a Lib tax cheat.

the pork king accuses Marines of murder.

PeLousy fills the family pockets.

Spineless harry heads over to zoning for his kids.

Dodd is busy getting preferred loans.

Barney is sleeping his way to Fannie's favor.

hillary is selling silverware, pardons, jobs, influence....

biden is not sure what day it is???

Byrd is not sure what century it is???

Johnson can't quite make out what country this is?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Otto4...I have reported Zouk several times and referenced dates and times of some of his posts...Give it a try. Maybe if enough people cry foul, he will be removed.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 5, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"The republotards are just mad because Franken's two GREAT books:

1. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them; A fair and balanced look at the right.

and;

2. Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot

are such GREAT books! Boy does Franken know how to slice and dice the reptards!!!"

Sorry, '

Loose Cannons and Other Weapons of Mass Political Destruction' is better than both of Franken's books combined.

I especially love the part where the main character takes out both Franken and Limbaugh with a steel folding chair.

tweldy-

Sorry, you're not going to convince me or any fair minded, unpartisan biased person that the Democrats have been just as nasty, vicious, and hateful as the Republicans over the past 8 years. It doesn't remotely come close to passing the smell test.

Again, the country needs a viable third party to stem the big money special interest groups who has the ear of the Democrats and Republicans.

Posted by: politicalchampionshipwrestling | January 5, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes, I CANNOT WAIT for the congressional investigations to START!!!

I can't wait to see Rove, Miers, Addington and Yoo sitting in a jail some where for ignoring subpoenas!!!

Funny how the law works when you ENFORCE IT!!!

This IS GOING TO BE FUN FUN FUN!!!

Posted by: Heerman532 | January 5, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Coleman was an accidental senator and like most accidental senators who turn out to be mediocre at best and inept at worst (one exception: John Warner of VA) he should go home graciously and enjoy his pension.

I expect Franken to be a competent policy wonk and far more boring than many people seem to expect.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 5, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

thomasmc1957:

Elucidate us as to "why YOU don't like Franken?"

Let us hear your opinion (based on facts we would hope.

Maybe we can learn something. From your perspective (quite magnanimous I might say) you would rather "pick the lesser of two evils?"

Tell us about your rationale, so we can get an idea of the way TYPICAL folks make a voting decision.

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Today from Coleman counsel Fritz Knaak. "The Coleman campaign has consistently and continually fought to have every validly cast vote counted, and for the integrity of Minnesota's election system, we will not stop now."

On November 5, Coleman asked Franken to concede because "the prospect of overturning 725 votes is extremely, extremely, extremely remote" and a recount would cost taxpayers the ungodly sum of $87,000. "I just think the need for the healing process is so important."

Just sayin'...

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | January 5, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Offer the Republicans a compromise: the Democrats won't seat Franken until after the court case has been handled if the Republicans will join the Democrats in refusing to seat Burris.

After the Republicans snuff the Democrat's attempt at bipartisanship, try to seat Franken, let Republicans filibuster, show Minnesota that Republicans only care about themselves and do not care about if Minnesotans are represented in the Senate, let Coleman throw his tantrum in court, then seat Franken once Coleman is kicked to the curb.

Posted by: paulflorez | January 5, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"At the rate we are going, with a new Lib being investigated almost every day, most of the Dem elected officials will be in jail before the next election."

Just wait until the justice department is in Obama's hands. You'll suddenly see a ton of Republicans going down, and I don't mean in airport restrooms. Of course, that's how the Republicans wanted it, having the justice department be a political tool, so we can expect no complaints when that is how its used...

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Otto, you don't understand. If this site banned them, the rightwing lunatics would have nothing to fill their days--they'd have to go back to scrawling obscenities on restroom walls [while madly tapping their feet, of course].

Posted by: cassandra13 | January 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't like Franken, but the idea of yet another Republican trying to steal another election disgusts me.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | January 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

This is the GOP's worst nightmare...an accurate and legal election with every vote counted. Looks like they'll be forced to figure out some new ways to steal elections now.

Posted by: wilder5121 | January 5, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I think it is pretty funny that those who claim Al Franken is a clown probaly voted for Reagan - Bedtime for Bonzo anybody?

Posted by: Limey51 | January 5, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Dept. of Justice confirms:

"PAIN BEAM" RADIATION WEAPONS HEADED TO YOUR LOCAL POLICE

A nexus between "radiation weapons" and domestic torture?

Victims of state-sponsored "community stalking" say YES.

Will the Civil Rights Division of D.O.J. now investigate?

Trying to effort an FBI response from Asst. Director John Miller.

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR http://members.NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 5, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong, Franken will make a great Senator, much better than Coleman, but something about this whole thing stinks. Given the machinations by both camps, the involvement of the courts, the politicization of the various voting oversight boards, the utter contempt shown by all concerned for the integrity of the mythical voter, there is no possibility of determining who actually won this race. The next time someone tells you "every vote counts", have a good laugh.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | January 5, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

"Minn was one of the states targeted by ACORN in their massive voter fraud efforts that helped the marxist drug addict steal the election"

Yeah, 365 electoral votes and an 8% raw vote margin, all thanks to a small nonprofit group of community organizers and election fraund......

59 Democratic-aligned senators, over 250 Dem representatives, and a Democratc president, clearly a good sign for Republicans because Dems clearly are unpopular (just look at the polls!!). It had to be fraud, it just had to!

You wing-nuts will believe anything, won't you?

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uhmmmm...o.k. You haven't let go you poor baby. You still think republican's (you know, the ones that got us in this mess) are popular in regard to the real people of America that "overwhelmingly" voted for President Barack Hussien Obama!

Posted by: not-me | January 5, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

King_of_zouk and impeachNOW:

Please refer to the rules of posting on this site. Rule number one states that "you agree not to submit inappropriate content" which includes libelous or defamatory material. Libel is a written defamation of character made by using falsehoods and misstatements to insult or degrade a person. It is not only the bastion of the unintelligent ideologue but also against the law.

Other posters have detailed your factual inaccuracies and outright delusions. I only hope the comment moderators understand your defamatory postings and deny you further access until you agree to abide by the rules of this site.

Posted by: otto4 | January 5, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"Progress the conversation... any child can hurl an insult."

Now this is all well minded, but seriously, have you been around for the past 8 years? The right wing has accused people who disagree with them from being unpatriotic to being a traitor. Why would you ever speak to these people except to mock them? They are school yard bullies and the appropriate treatment is to beat them like a circus monkey.

You see, they calm down a bit when they realize there's a new sheriff in town. Its like castrating a bull. There is no reasoning with such a beast when it gets out of control - it doesn't have much of a mind, you castrate it and it gets in line. This is what must be done with the wingnuts. Then they will fall in line and start behaving like civilized people.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The republotards are just mad because Franken's two GREAT books:

1. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them; A fair and balanced look at the right.

and;

2. Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot

are such GREAT books! Boy does Franken know how to slice and dice the reptards!!!

No wonder they hate him.

Posted by: Heerman532 | January 5, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

TheProFromDover thinks he's being clever in writing
"I'm puzzled by Knaak's reference to "the integrity of Minnesota's election system."

Isn't this the state that elected Jesse Ventura governor AND Norm Coleman to the Senate?

Something has GOT to be wrong."


One thing that could be wrong: In MN, you can win an election with a plurality of votes. In this election, Franken & Coleman each won about 42% of the vote, with former Senator Dean Barkley coming in at 15 or 16 percent. Gov Ventura won the same way - I forget the percentage that voted for him, but it was well below 50%. Gov Pawlenty has likewise never won a majority.

So, one solution might be for replacing the plurality rule with a run-off election - as was done in GA this year in their senate race. Another option is instant run-off voting, which will be implemented in Minneapolis for the 2010 election.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The comments about Reagan are absolutley right, yet-here is an example- the lackeys who follow in blind-step, and the Media supported by big business, SOMEHOW managed to suggerst (and continue to do so) that "everyone should be like Reagan" becasue he was "so great."

A TOTAL distortion of evidence, facts, history and truth.

This would be an example of quite effective propaganda and the "lemmings" willing to jump cliffs if told to do so.

A lie is bad enough, but to suggest and DEMAND that the lie be perceived as truth, is just plain EVIL.

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

At the rate we are going, with a new Lib being investigated almost every day, most of the Dem elected officials will be in jail before the next election.
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Lol, that is so sad. What's even more sad is it could be true :P

Who knows, maybe we'll get a Government-wide crackdown on "unethical behavior" and we'll get to start over from scratch.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"Minn was one of the states targeted by ACORN in their massive voter fraud efforts that helped the marxist drug addict steal the election"

Yeah, 365 electoral votes and an 8% raw vote margin, all thanks to a small nonprofit group of community organizers and election fraund......

59 Democratic-aligned senators, over 250 Dem representatives, and a Democratc president, clearly a good sign for Republicans because Dems clearly are unpopular (just look at the polls!!). It had to be fraud, it just had to!

You wing-nuts will believe anything, won't you?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | January 5, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

some loon wrote: Minn was one of the states targeted by ACORN in their massive voter fraud efforts that helped the marxist drug addict steal the election, so it is not a surprise that these criminal efforts are having an effect on the Senate race.

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Tut tut. Such Irrational Obama Hatred will give you irritable bowels. Unclench your tiny fists, take a deep breath, and take up a hobby for the next 8-16 years.

Posted by: icoleman | January 5, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The same folks who were perfectly happy to let the 2000 presidential election in Florida get stolen are now throwing fits about a Minnesota recount? (done under rules to specifically account for a Florida-type fiasco)

Suck it up. Coleman lost. If they has a run off like they have to do in Georgia, 90% of the 3rd party voters would go to Franklin anyway. Coleman only got his seat the first time because Paul Wellstone died in a plane crash and Walter Mondale is 130 years old.

Posted by: tcryer | January 5, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

your political party will be in the minority for at least the next two decades

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

At the rate we are going, with a new Lib being investigated almost every day, most of the Dem elected officials will be in jail before the next election.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Hee, haw. Seems Senator Coleman was against counting every vote until he was for it. Concede and bring that GOP count down one more notch, for the good of the country. You've done enough harm already.

Posted by: SarahBB | January 5, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Those continuous comments about "pinko-liberals" suggest to me that either YOU learned those comments from your uneducated parents (more than likely) and you merely now "parrot" the same for effect, OR you are an "old Cold Warrior" who has seen better times. Hopefully you are the latter. If that is the case your time-line SHOULD be winding down.

Bye and good luck in heaven

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I congratulate my fellow Democrat/Progressive commentators. It is about time YOU stood up to the usual racist, sexist, narrow-minded tirades from the other side, you know the uneducated, opinionated folks who assume "their world" is logical, fact-based and non-judgmental, when in reality they have NO CLUE what they are talking about and usually have an angry, baseless, comment anytime, they are found to be wrong or downright unaware of the evidence (maybe because they don't read?).
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Yes, isn't it amazing how this past election has awoken the sleeping lefties from their comas? Hell, I will be the first to admit that I have never cared about politics AT ALL my entire life until this past election. It was energizing. But it also opened my eyes to see a world of ignorant morons who have nothing better to do than to parrot their favorite commentators lies and spread negative (and hateful/racist at times) slander. Even now, they would rather tear down the President-Elect than actually put their hat into the circle to fix this nosediving Country of ours. True Patriotism lies in those who are willing to work for the betterment of their country, not their party.

Posted by: XanderB | January 5, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

This is the most childish forum I've yet to see talk about this subject. I can't read more than two posts before someone attacks those "silly Liberals" or "crazy Republicans." Progress the conversation... any child can hurl an insult.

Posted by: jnmanfredonia | January 5, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"You pinko liberals are pathetic. You should be EMBARRASSED!!!!"
—jim000122

Actually, Jim, we were embarrassed when a B-movie actor began the process of bankrupting our nation, and are embarrassed now that the current administration has nearly completed the job.

"The fiscal shift in the Reagan years was staggering. In January 1981, when Reagan declared the federal budget to be "out of control," the deficit had reached almost $74 billion, the federal debt $930 billion. Within two years, the deficit was $208 billion. The debt by 1988 totaled $2.6 trillion. In those eight years, the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the largest debtor nation."

—Washington Post, June 9, 2004

Posted by: Bondosan | January 5, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

As always, it's nice to see that Democrats are just as ignorant, intolerant, and bigoted as they claim the Republicans are.

Its true, despite their best efforts, the Democrats claims about the ignorance, intoleranance, and bigotry of the right wing are far beneath the mark. I don't blame the Democrat entirely, the English language has its own limitations as to describe the epic ethical, moral, and professional failure of the Republican party.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by ImpeachNOW: Minn was one of the states targeted by ACORN in their massive voter fraud efforts that helped the marxist drug addict steal the election, so it is not a surprise that these criminal efforts are having an effect on the Senate race.

Haven't you run out of KKKool-Aid yet?

Posted by: bdunn1 | January 5, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Way to steal an election. You pinko liberals are pathetic. You should be EMBARRASSED!!!!

Posted by: jim000122
*****************

I think you mean WINNING an election. I'll try not to be too embarassed on Inauguration Day. Maybe you can be embarrassed for the both of us. A comedian kicked your ethically challenged repuke's a$$!! HOW 'BOUT THEM APPLES?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: LABC | January 5, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

>>

Your petulant squeals of outrage are but sweet music to our ears. Oh, what a great, great eight years this is going to be.

Squeal, boy! Squeeeeeeeealll! HEH.

Posted by: icoleman | January 5, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm puzzled by Knaak's reference to "the integrity of Minnesota's election system."

Isn't this the state that elected Jesse Ventura governor AND Norm Coleman to the Senate?

Something has GOT to be wrong.

Posted by: TheProFromDover | January 5, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

jim000123 writes
"Way to steal an election."

Please include citations of how, exactly, the MN election was stolen.

I recall one claim by the Coleman team that there was double counting of some votes. Their logic, as I understand it, sounds quite reasonable. But when put before a judge, he said they didn't offer any evidence of double counting. What are we supposed to do, just take their word for it?

Now the Coleman strategy seems to be modelled on the Gore strategy in FL in 2000 - selectively recount in districts that should be favorable. This is unlikely to be a winning strategy - as it wasn't for Gore.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

The GOP filibuster will only accomplish one thing... it will only delay the day when Bill O'Reilly's head explodes when he's confronted with the reality of having to say "Senator Al Franken". I can't wait!

Posted by: PrattleinSeattle | January 5, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Minnesota sent a CLOWN to the senate!!!!

After freakshow Coleman, the dimwit half-man who could tell no truth, they didn't want to offend the circus worker contingent.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

King of puke - that political wilderness you losers are in? Could you move it further out of our line of vision?

Senator Franken - gosh darn it, people do like him!

Posted by: LABC | January 5, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Let me explain why this is not nitpicking:

Your readers are reading this article because they want to know "What's the status of the MN recount?"

So you say, "Well, you know this Democrat says Franken's ahead; but this other guy who's *not* a Democrat is saying it's much tighter."

So your average reader is left thinking, "Hmm... Party hack says 'franken' but non-affiliated says 'too close to call'."

The end result of the reader having read your piece is that he or she is left coming away actually *less* informed than they were going in...

This sort of stuff is why people are reading reputable hybrid blogs like Josh Marshall's TPM. Because they're not constantly blowing smoke up our azzes about this kind of stuff.

Posted by: icoleman | January 5, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

As always, it's nice to see that Democrats are just as ignorant, intolerant, and bigoted as they claim the Republicans are.

The Democrats represent ordinary people no more than the Republicans do. What we really need is a viable third party who will actually represent the interests of ordinary people instead of the big money special interest groups who bankroll the Democratic and Republican parties.

Posted by: politicalchampionshipwrestling | January 5, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how the moonbats will overlook anything when their own power is at stake:

pay for pardons
pay for play
usurp states rights
stealing elections
and don't even start on charlie wrangle

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I would like to apologize for my previous comment, I realize it is far too narrow to claim that the wingnuts listen to only Rush Limbaugh. I would take my previous post and interchange his name with any of the following (I wouldn't want to give the impression that the wingnuts are too narrow minded):

Sean Hannity (for the complete idiots), Bill O'Reilly (for the screamers), Ann Coulter (for the burning haters), Michael Savage (for the bat**** crazy freaks), and Paul Weyrich (for the old school, I hope it was nothing painless...)

And, just in case you're still wondering, which would seem impossible, but nothing is beyond the wingnuts, I've learned: we're laughing AT you, not with you.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Minnesota sent a CLOWN to the senate!!!!

A CLOWN!!!!! Hahahahahaha Show's you wha the senate has become under democrat rule.

Way to steal an election. You pinko liberals are pathetic. You should be EMBARRASSED!!!!

Posted by: jim000122 | January 5, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I looked up "zouk" on Conservapedia. It means "loserville."

Posted by: mattintx | January 5, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Zoukmeister:

The fact that your political party will be in the minority for at least the next two decades has really sent you over the edge, hasn't it?

And your efforts to pin all of Bush's failures on Reid and Pelosi are laughable.

By the way, it currently looks like the Democrats will pick up a minimum of three Senate seats in 2010, with four or five a distinct possibility.

Enjoy your time in the wilderness.

Posted by: Bondosan | January 5, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

And so, as is typical, when a Republican poster on threads like this cannot win on the facts being discussed, they start trying to smear Democrats in general, and go off topic.

Too bad they haven't yet all realized the folly of that behavior. It's too bad for our nation that they haven't figured out that it is that exact behavior that, in part, caused them to lose so many races in 2006 and 2008.

Stop being jackasses. Admit when your side lost a fair fight. Stop trying to change the subject to Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid on a thread that's about the Minnesota Senate race!

Posted by: slouise217 | January 5, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The Senate Democrats can fix at least one of the problems caused by a delay in seating Al Franken(assuming he's the one eventually ratified by a Minnesota/federal court decision). This is the problem that the Minnesota senator will lose seniority for committee slots, etc., if not seated with all the other newcomers.

Just count Al Franken's seniority from the same date as all the other freshman class: this is something that lies wholly within Democratic leadership hands.

Otherwise, it's fine if this drags on just a bit longer: we can enjoy watching Republicans weasel around trying to explain why all the arguments underlying the appalling Bush v. Gore decision don't apply in this case.

We are being treated to a 'Cirque de Soleil' display of philosophical agility! It's hardly recompense for the disasters of the last eight years but it's as much as we're likely to get. As a famous Republican once said, "Let them twist slowly in the wind." A trapeze will serve for the scaffold or whipping post that is really deserved.

Posted by: scotsbrian | January 5, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The Coleman campaign has pushed to ensure every vote is counted. Really? Was that before or after they tried to get Franken to ask that there be no recount in the first place?

Posted by: 33rdStreet | January 5, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Republican Dictionary, an Excerpt

Fairness: When a Republican wins.
Unfairness: When anyone else wins.

Justice: When anyone else gets prosecuted.
Injustice: When a Republican gets prosecuted.

God: Rush Limbaugh (formerly GWB).
Satan: Anyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh.

Truth: Whatever Rush Limbaugh says.
Falsehood: Anything related to science, knowledge, study, learning, education, enlightenment, intellectual(ism), evidence and evidence based, history, economics, philosophy, and *ESPECIALLY* reasoning and logic.

Posted by: tweldy | January 5, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I congratulate my fellow Democrat/Progressive commentators. It is about time YOU stood up to the usual racist, sexist, narrow-minded tirades from the other side, you know the uneducated, opinionated folks who assume "their world" is logical, fact-based and non-judgmental, when in reality they have NO CLUE what they are talking about and usually have an angry, baseless, comment anytime, they are found to be wrong or downright unaware of the evidence (maybe because they don't read?).

Unfortunately it would appear that the typical Republican has morphed into a "yes-person" for anything that is contrary to the betterment of society as a whole. Purely a party of reactionaries and lackies.

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, wrong thread:

Interesting article on the Coleman/Franken race today. Though I thought this was a little odd:

Says Cilliza:

"'The Coleman team has laid the groundwork for a real, substantive challenge in front of the Minnesota Supreme Court,' said Vin Weber, a former member of Congress from Minnesota and now a lobbyist in Washington. 'The race is still a ways from being over.'"

Wow, sounds like things are still up in the air! Strange, though, that pretty much every knowledgeable commentator is saying the race is essentially over. I wonder who this Vin Webber character is, who is quoted without any characterization?

From wikipedia: "Weber is a former Republican Congressman from Minnesota".

Oh...well, I guess Chris just kind of overlooked that part.

Wait there's more: "Weber served as the Bush-Cheney '04 Plains States Regional Chairman."

Oh, so Weber's your typical right-wing aparachick/hack. That would have been nice to know.

Way to inform your readers there, Chris! (If this was left on the cutting-room floor by the editors, I apologize. Let them know they're embarassing the Post).

Posted by: icoleman | January 5, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I congratulate my fellow Democrat/Progressive commentators. It is about time YOU stood up to the usual racist, sexist, narrow-minded tirades from the other side, you know the uneducated, opinionated folks who assume "their world" is logical, fact-based and non-judgmental, when in reality they have NO CLUE what they are talking about and usually have an angry, baseless, comment anytime, they are found to be wrong or downright unaware of the evidence (maybe because they don't read?).

Unfortunately it would appear that the typical Republican has morphed into a "yes-person" for anything that is contrary to the betterment of society as a whole. Purely a party of reactionaries and lackies.

Posted by: looieR | January 5, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

slouise217 writes
"Franken didn't "lose the election". The vote on Election Day was so close that a recount ensued to determine the real winner - the results on Nov 4th were not necessarily accurate."

The word is 'provisional'. The Nov 4 results were provisional. At the time, former Senator Coleman said the right thing to do, for the loser, would be to recognize the results and concede the election. Now that the results are certified & the canvassing board is ready to declare a winner, the former Senator does not seem so keen to follow his own advice. Strange how the rules change when the shoe's on the other foot.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: asd2 | January 5, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Head of the clowns:

Harry Reid: When the Senate Majority leader wasn't bizarrely declaring that we had to grind our economy to a halt by refusing to continue to use fossil fuels...


" That is, coal makes us sick, oil makes us sick, its Global Warming, its ruining our Country, its ruining our World. We have got to stop using fossil fuel." -- Harry Reid

...or causing stocks to plunge by popping off at the mouth,


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is getting credit for sparking a blistering sell-off in insurance stocks.

MetLife Inc., Hartford Financial Services Group and Prudential Financial Inc. all fell by double-digit percentage amounts [yesterday] after Reid on Wednesday said the financial-system bailout plan was crucial because a large insurer was at risk of failing.

...A statement from his office said that Reid was "not personally aware of any particular company being on the verge of bankruptcy" and that "he has no special knowledge about nor has he talked to any insurance company officials," Dow Jones reported.


...Little Lord Harry was declaring that he was offended by the very stench of his constituents.


Defining quote: "My staff tells me not to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway. In the summer because of the heat and high humidity, you could literally smell the tourists coming into the Capitol. It may be descriptive but it's true." -- Harry Reid

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere a Republican is weeping, alone and unloved. They call it sadness. But I call it gladness.

It's so nice to see bad people washed up.

Posted by: Dolmance | January 5, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Lib leaders:

Nancy Pelosi: What a year it was for the first female speaker! Under her leadership, the deficit exploded, corruption in Congress increased, the political atmosphere became even more poisonous, and the economy fell apart while she did nothing -- well, to say she did nothing is unfair.

She did funnel money to her husband's PAC. She also came out in favor of censoring her political opponents via the Fairness Doctrine. That's in addition to the fact that she gave credit to the Iranians for the success our troops fought, bled, and died to achieve in Iraq,


"And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians-they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities-the Iranians."

Of course, what else could you expect from General Pelosi, a military genius who said,


Defining quote: "...twice...that Iraq 'is a failure,' adding that President Bush's troop surge has 'not produced the desired effect.'"

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama: This is the best way to sum up Barack Obama's campaign, why his supporters voted for him, and how the media covered him.

Ahem...


Who can take a rainbow,
Wrap it in a sigh?
Soak it in the sun and make the stra'bry lemon pie
The candyman? The candyman can
The candyman can 'cause he mixes it with love
and makes the world taste good

The Candyman makes
everything he bakes
Satisfying and delicious.
Talk about your childhood wishes.
You can even eat the dishes!

Who can take tomorrow,
Dip it in a dream?
Separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream,
The candyman? The Candyman can, the candyman can
The candyman can 'cause he mixes it with love
and makes the world taste good
And the world tastes good
'cause the candyman thinks it should

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Let the Republicans fight this tooth and nail. They lost, and they will lose this one, as will Coleman.

In the meantime, Senator Reid should drop his opposition and seat the Senator-Elect from Illinois.

Yep, that would be a stalemate - but in the end, as in the vote, the Repos lose. As four (counting NY and CO) new Democratic Senators are heading towards the Hill.

Which is a win, win for me. As for the country.

Posted by: CaptainJohn2525 | January 5, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Franken didn't "lose the election". The vote on Election Day was so close that a recount ensued to determine the real winner - the results on Nov 4th were not necessarily accurate. The rules written before the election were followed, not tossed out. "Mysterious votes have not appeared out of nowhere - the reason they have a recount is to make sure no legit vote was missed, and some were! There have been allegations that there may have been some duplicate votes counted. There's not a shred of evidence that it happened, but Coleman supporters pretend that it's guaranteed that it did happen! Nonsense! There was one instance where votes were logged but cannot be found now, so to protect the rights of those voters, they used a secondary source to document those votes - Coleman supporters allege some wrongdoing in trying to make every legit vote count!
Why can't Republicans honor the facts and respect reality?

Posted by: slouise217 | January 5, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Who cares . . . the senate has become a joke. Besides, every court needs a jester and with Franken they now have one.

Posted by: rplat | January 5, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

One interesting thing about this recount has been the media's propensity to report on it as if it were a second campaign. Describing the results of the last two weeks as "momentum" for Franken is like describing a roulette player who bet on red as having momentum because the ball just bounced off a red number as the wheel slows to a stop. They are just counting ballots.

Posted by: miket000 | January 5, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

ROFL ImpeachNOW...

You should try getting your facts from someone other than Hannity or Limbaugh. The whole ACORN "scandle" never involved any allegations of voter fraud, but rather voter registration fraud. There have been no claims that one vote was cast fraudulently in any state in the country due to ACORN. Additionally, most media (with the possible exception of FOX News and some right-wing bloggers) have debunked this alleged scheme for what it really was: a bunch of minimum-wage workers who would rather invent names in the warmth of their living rooms rather than go door to door.

The whole ACORN red herring notwithstanding, I find it interesting that Coleman is now refusing to do exactly what he told Franken he would do if thier roles were reversed: give up. Ain't hypocracy grand?

Posted by: kennethk | January 5, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

ImpeachNow: facts would be nice. Acorn was the victim of registration fraud, that is, paid workers who got money for registrations of folks who didn't exist. It duly reported these frauds to the states, who really didn't need much help rejecting these registrations anyway. And in any event, Mickey Mouse and the Dallas Cowboys did not fly to Minn and try to vote. There was no VOTER fraud associated with ACORN, just registration fraud, which, while serious enough, could not result in a single fraudulent vote.

Posted by: JoeT1 | January 5, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations, Al. Please take the lead in investigating the transgressions of the past 8 years. Our Democracy needs it.

Posted by: Jhale1 | January 5, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

the O'Bambi admin is already so corrupt, at least two of his cabinet have already been exposed as crooks, not even counting hillary.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Coleman is under investigatiopn and is likely an unendicted criminal.

Is THAT why the republicans are STILL all behind him?

Coleman is days from being endicted for political crimes and is unfit to serve in the Senate!

Posted by: onestring | January 5, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cilliza, your article this morning was fascinating, and in more ways than one.

In the first paragraph, where you are describing the dwindling chances for Coleman, there's an icon next to Coleman's name. If you click on the icon it shows Coleman's photo and says he's the next Minnesota Senator.

I know you didn't make this mess but can you fix it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/04/AR2009010401308.html?nav=hcmodule

Posted by: mlscha | January 5, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans have pledged to filibuster any attempt to seat Franken."

In other words, behaving as usual. The heck with the voters, we want it our way! Glad they're gone.

Posted by: fluxgirl | January 5, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Al Franken: Franken was so snide, combative, and downright "un-senatorial" that even the state's most famous ultra-liberal paper, the Minnesota Star Tribune, endorsed his opponent, Senator Norm Coleman.

Franken lost the election, then with the help of Democratic officials, began a hamhanded attempt to steal the Senate seat that would be over-the-top even for Hugo Chavez. The rules written before the election were thrown out, mysterious votes have appeared out of nowhere, duplicate ballots for Franken have been counted, and at times they've chosen to ignore the results of the hand count and go with numbers from election night in districts where it will help Franken.


Defining quote: "Republicans are asleep at the wheel while another close election is being openly stolen by the man whose contributions to western civilization include the 'Planet of The Enormous Hooters' sketch on SNL." -- Ann Coulter

Posted by: king_of_zouk | January 5, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

ImpeachNOW:

How's everyone doing over at your Idaho white-supremacist compound?

Is it cold this time of year?

Posted by: Bondosan | January 5, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

It's so ironic that Coleman didn't want to count any of the absentee ballots county officials found had been wrongly rejected, claiming that none were wrongly rejected, yet now he says that over 600 absentees rejected under state law should be counted.

Actually, it's not ironic, it's just an obviously bogus argument.

Posted by: mainer2 | January 5, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

FYI, Alan Page is not the Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court. He is the senior Associate Justice (serving on the Court since 1993), and Eric Magnuson is the Chief Justice. Chief Justice Magnuson, of course, recused himself from this order because he is on the Canvassing Board (along with Justice G. Barry Anderson, who also recused himself).

Posted by: BlueOx | January 5, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

"window closing" Chris? The window is closed and barred, the house empty, and soon it will be leveled!

This race is over, and only Norm and a few deluded and angry Republicans can have any hope anymore of an eventual Coleman win.

Posted by: wagonjak1 | January 5, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The Moron Con lost, just like McWarCriminal. LMAO

Posted by: MoronCons | January 5, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Very interesting stuff. Shows how messy democracy can be.

Posted by: dbitt | January 5, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Fritz Knaak. "The Coleman campaign has consistently and continually fought to have every validly cast vote counted."

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Only when they're behind and then they the validity criterion goes out the window. The record speaks for itself.

Posted by: jimkahan | January 5, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Minn was one of the states targeted by ACORN in their massive voter fraud efforts that helped the marxist drug addict steal the election, so it is not a surprise that these criminal efforts are having an effect on the Senate race.

In a perverted sense, one must admit that franken, if the ACORN fraud prevails, could become the best symbol of the d-crat party: a pathetic, non-funny clown. He'll also provide a new and even better justification for their jackass symbol.

Posted by: ImpeachNOW | January 5, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

For the junkies that can't get enough of the ins & outs of the MN race, Eric Black wrote a must-read piece for today's MN Post:

http://www.minnpost.com/ericblack/2009/01/05/5572/senate_recount_outlook_here_are_some_real_lollapaloozas

He delves deeply into the minutae of MN election law & arcane Senate rules to enumerate a litany of plausible next steps for all parties involved.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 5, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Seems like there's a lot of shenanigans going on there but I think Coleman's initial reaction on election night tells it all. He didn't want all the votes to be counted because his advisors knew and told him it would come to this.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 5, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

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