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Reid Prefers Senate Appointment to Special Election



Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), shown here delivering remarks at the opening ceremony for the new U.S. Capitol Visitor Center, has called on Blagojevich to resign, in order to avoid a special election. (Photo by Brendan Hoffman/Getty Images)

Updated, 5:56 p.m. ET: The entire Senate Democratic caucus has signed the Reid letter to Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

Original Post

The momentum for a special election to replace President-elect Barack Obama ran into a major hurdle late this afternoon in the form of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) who penned a letter today to scandal-tarred Gov. Rod Blagojevich making clear he would prefer the incumbent step aside and let Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn make the appointment.

"It is within the authority of the Illinois legislature to remove your power to make this appointment by providing for a special election," wrote Reid in a letter obtained by The Fix. "But a decision by you to resign or to step aside under Article V of the Illinois Constitution would be the most expeditious way for a new Senator to be chosen and seated in a manner that would earn the confidence of the people of Illinois and all Americans." (Full text of letter after the jump.)

Reid adds that his preference for an appointment by Blagojevich's successor rather than a special election is driven by his belief that it is "imperative" that a new senator from Illinois be seated as soon as possible. An appointment by Quinn, a Democrat, also avoids the possibility that Democrats could lose the seat in a shortened special election campaign.

The timeline being floated in Illinois political circles would be for party primaries to take place on Feb. 24 with a general election on April 7 -- a schedule that would leave the Senate seat vacant for at least three months.

In the letter, which Reid is circulating among the Senate Democratic Caucus for signatures, the Majority Leader also makes clear that if Blagojevich sought to name a Senate replacement, which remains within his legal right to do, the Senate would not necessarily seat that pick.

"Please understand that should you decide to ignore the request of the Senate Democratic Caucus and make an appointment we would be forced to exercise our
Constitutional authority under Article I, Section 5, to determine whether such a person should be seated," wrote Reid. (The Senate has ultimate decision making power over seating its members.)

Reid's desire for an appointment rather than a special election puts him at odds with Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.) who proposed the idea of a special just yesterday, as well as Illinois state House Speaker Mike Madigan and Illinois state Senate President Emil Jones Jr.

Full Text of Reid Letter

Dear Governor Blagojevich:

We write to insist that you step down as Governor of Illinois and under no circumstance make an appointment to fill the vacant Illinois Senate seat. In light of your arrest yesterday on alleged federal corruption charges related to that Senate seat, any appointment by you would raise serious questions.

It is within the authority of the Illinois legislature to remove your power to make this appointment by providing for a special election. But a decision by you to resign or to step aside under Article V of the Illinois Constitution would be the most expeditious way for a new Senator to be chosen and seated in a manner that would earn the confidence of the people of Illinois and all Americans. We consider it imperative that a new senator be seated as soon as possible so that Illinois is fully represented in the Senate as the important work of the 111th Congress moves forward.

Please understand that should you decide to ignore the request of the Senate Democratic Caucus and make an appointment we would be forced to exercise our Constitutional authority under Article I, Section 5, to determine whether such a person should be seated.

We do not prejudge the outcome of the criminal charges against you or question your constitutional right to contest those charges. But for the good of the Senate and our nation, we implore you refrain from making an appointment to the Senate.

Sincerely,

Harry Reid

By Chris Cillizza  |  December 10, 2008; 5:20 PM ET
Categories:  Senate  
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Bank of America and Mr. Higgins missing $millions, It can happen to you, my fellow Americans


More info: http://mrhigginsbank.blogspot.com/

Posted by: srmaxhiggins | December 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"After Chambliss in GA and the two congressional seats in LA, that would be the 4th setback for the Dems since Nov 4th... where's the coattails?"
ReaganRepublican
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It was always expected that Chambliss would win, the only thing here is that he had to have a run off to do so. LA?, another deep-south state, it would be unexpected if they didn't win. So these are more in the category of "saves" rather than gains.

The coattails?, try Alaska, and Obama showed his coattails when he swept in 8 new Senators and many more in the house on election day.

The guy isn't even in office and you think it's over?, or the tide is turning? the Repubs got spanked bad the last two election cycles.

But, you see what you want to see I guess.

Posted by: JRM2 | December 11, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

"Is it possible for corrupt IL politicians to buy the Cubs entry to the World Series? This is entirely possible with BHO in the White House.

Posted by: leapin | December 11, 2008 11:20 AM |"
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It wouldn't be possible if God was in the white house.

Posted by: JRM2 | December 11, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

There is another way. Have someone (say Quinn), or some group (the IL Dem party), make a selection and then just have HotRod rubber stamp it. It would be clear he 'only did the paper work' and the Dems can get all their Senators seated before the real legislatin' commences.

Posted by: caribis | December 11, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Is Reid insane? Do the Democrats (other than me) want him to have any real power? Gawd!

Posted by: newbeeboy | December 11, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse


all senators have preferences 4succesors.
dejanew.
the faceless octopus eager to keep transfering wealth from the poor to the morbid rich making business out of corpses
of civilians children and troops.
savage indeed.
let's celebrate looks+brains
and give change a chance.
yeswecan

Posted by: tabita | December 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Reid prefers an appointment over a special election? Of course he does. Everyone I know in Illinois has flat out had it with the various Democratic machines and would welcome the opportunity to vote in a reasonably clean Republican. The polls indicate the same thing. This is rather like in reverse - given a chance, the voters will throw the rascals out.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | December 11, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The continuous puerile mewling and puling over Obama's birth certificate suggests that someone's aluminum foil hats have sprung a leak.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | December 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

37th and O, your tin hat has a few holes in it. These crazy "charges" against Obama have been shot down again and again, but you (speaking for the lunatic fringe) apparently cannot accept proof as, well, proof.
And you'll keep on wasting this space with your demented rants.
But keep on going-- I enjoy a good laugh.

Posted by: dbitt | December 11, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Is it possible for corrupt IL politicians to buy the Cubs entry to the World Series? This is entirely possible with BHO in the White House.

Posted by: leapin | December 11, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

It amazes me that that just 2 short years ago, Blags ran a campaign against Judy Topinka on ethics. Blags suggested that Topinka was too close to former gov. George Ryan and showed her on tv dancing with him. Now who is corrupt? Perhaps Ryan and Blags could share time in the penetentry together. What an adjustment that must be: from the governor's mansion to the prision cell.

Posted by: reason5 | December 11, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Who cares what Dingy Harry wants... he's afraid a Republican would nab the seat in an actual Democratic election, so of course he favors appointmen by another shady Illinois Democrat. After Chambliss in GA and the two congressional seats in LA, that would be the 4th setback for the Dems since Nov 4th... where's the coattails?

WHY did Obama lie about discussing the seat with Blagojevich?

WHO from Team Obama offered Blago a corporate BOD position for his wife?

HOW OFTEN was Emanuel in touch with Blago's people?

WHAT did they mean on the FBI wiretap when Blago's advisers said Obama had to "suck it up" for the next couple years? Temporarily refrain from cheating, bribing, and stealing Chicago-style?

And, Blago's (convicted) bagman was Rezko... you know, the guy that helped Barack buy that nice house? And raised tons of money for both Barack and Blago?


Wake up, pollyanna Obamaphiles... the dream is over already. When reality hits, it hits hard... especially when suppressed for so long.

I guess you won't be getting that Senate seat now either, Chris Matthews- should have just bought this one from Hot Rod when you had the chance, LOL

Let the truth be told... the de-programming of the Obama Cult is desperately needed, and seriously overdue.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | December 11, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

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To All the Obamaniacs

Are you all blind to Rezko and Blagojevich??? These are the people close to Obama. Are you so blind that you don't see these people are in the same circle as Obama ??? It is clear that Obama's people were willing to make a deal with Blagojevich - so what does that tell you about Obama ???


AND where is Obama's birth certificate?


What kind of passport did Obama travel on in 1981 when Obama traveled to Pakistand and at least three other countries??? This country deserves to know if Obama has claimed in the past that he was a citizen of another (Muslim) nation.


The two possibilities are INDONESIA AND KENYA.

Amazingly, if Obama was traveling on an INDONESIAN PASSPORT, it would indicate that his parents had renounced Obama's rights to US citizenship because dual citizenship between Indonesia and the US was not allowed by treaty. So Obama would have needed a VISA to re-enter the country.


ok

IS OBAMA IN THE UNITED STATES ON A STUDENT VISA - AND HAS HE OVERSTAYED HIS VISA -

HAS OBAMA EVER HELD A JOB IN WHICH HE HAD TO PROVE HE WAS A US CITIZEN ??? OBAMA'S EMPLOYMENT HISTORY INDICATES THAT PERHAPS HE WAS ILLEGAL.


CLEARLY THE WASHINGTON POST SHOULD ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND INFORM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.


THE NEW YORK TIMES ISN'T GOING TO DO IT.

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Posted by: 37thandORules | December 11, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Illinios could make up some of their deficit by auctioning off the seat to the highest bidded ( plus 10% for costs)

of course reid doesn't want an election... the people might not opt for a democrat.

Posted by: newagent99 | December 11, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

What a boring day it is without 37thandO to fill the page with innuendo and speculation.

Be sure to look outside today and let us all know if the sky is falling...thanks so much. How much does the RNC pay you to write this tripe? Are they hiring?

Posted by: Thatsnuts | December 11, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

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Ladies and Gentlemen:


Obama and Blagojevich come from the same crew in Illinois - the fundraisers like Rezko raise money for both. Obama endorsed Blagojevich for both his terms as Governor and served on his Campaign in Advisory capacities.


You all can not be that blind.

"Birds of a Feather Flock Together" this crew has known each other for years - they may not like each other much however they still work together.


The Obamaniacs are in for a cold dose of reality.

Obama's people and perhaps Obama himself were in the middle of dealmaking with Blagojevich - it is only the price that got too high - if the price was lower, would there have been a deal? There are serious questions here which go directly to Obama's fitness for office. And clearly the man is not qualified.


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Posted by: 37thandORules | December 11, 2008 6:39 AM | Report abuse

npyati,

The Senate could still refuse to seat any Blago appointee, but such a refusal may be subject to a legal challenge. Unlike in Powell v. McCormack (where Powell was undoubtedly corrupt but legitimately elected), the Senate could challenge an appointee's right to serve on the grounds that the appointment was improper pending any moves by the IL legislature. Even if the Senate was unsuccessful in refusing to seat the appointee, they could easily expel him/her with a 2/3 vote, and it would probably not be difficult to get 67 senators to oppose anyone dumb enough to accept a Blago appointment right now

Posted by: jasinderbrand | December 11, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

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Freedom of Speech or Freedom to Whitewash??


Obama and his people HATE FREEDOM OF SPEECH


We have been saying this all year.


Read this from Politico today.


President-elect Barack Obama's Transition today launched "Open for Questions," a Digg-style feature allowing citizens to submit questions, and to vote on one another's questions, bringing favored inquiries to the top of the list.

It was suggested when it launched that the tool would bring uncomfortable questions to the fore, but the results so far are the opposite: Obama's supporters appear to be using -- and abusing -- a tool allowing them to "flag" questions as "inappropriate" to remove all questions mentioning Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich from the main pages of Obama's website.

The Blagojevich questions -- many of them polite and reasonable -- can be found only by searching words in them, like "Blagojevich," which produces 35 questions missing from the main page of the site.

"Given the current corruption charges involving Blagojevich, will 'serious' campaign finance reform that takes money completely out of politics through publicly funded elections be a priority in the first term?" asked Metteyya of Santa Cruz, California.

"This submission was removed because people believe it is inappropriate," reads the text underneath it.
Also removed as "inappropriate":

"In light of the recent corruption scandals (Blagojevich, Rangel, Jefferson, Stevens, etc) that have dominated the political scene,is there any ethics legislation being crafted to actually curb corruption and prevent another wave of nixonian cynicism?", a question from "lupercal," of Gainesville.

And: "Is Barack Obama aware of any communications in the last six weeks between Rod Blagojevich or anyone representing Rod Blagojevich and any of Obama's top aides?", a question from Phil from Pennsylvania.

Declaring a question "inappropriate" is different from merely voting it down; it's calling foul on a question, not just disapproving of it.

Community reporting systems like this are often vulnerable to abuse from committed partisans -- YouTube has wrestled with a parallel problem -- and the only solution is conscious efforts to remedy it.

So far, Obama's team does not seem to have stepped in to allow uncomfortable questions to rise to the top, and instead is allowing his supporters to sanitize the site.


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Posted by: 37thandORules | December 10, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

That election might be worth the $30 mil just to put aside any hint of improprieties.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | December 10, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Reid's probably wrong on the law. The Senate can expel but likely not exclude whomever Blagojevich were to choose. Powell v. McCormack, 395 U.S. 486 (1969).

Posted by: npyati | December 10, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Contray to Reid's desires, I think this is a thing that should be settled between the people of Illinois and their current government. That excludes Reid, and Obama as well for that matter.

Durbin has suggested Illinois legislature action to remove his power to appoint the seat. That is basically saying that is focusing only on his one act of corruption (alleged, but taped).

Madigan and others have suggested impeachment. That should happen, and quickly. Monday would be the first day they are able to apparently.

Beyond that, there should be a special election. At some point I do hope we find out who the five candidates were, and how involved each of them were. Whether it was the candidates themselves (probably not) or their spokespersons. I do not believe the people of this state should have to put up with the question of whether they are voting for someone involved with this, or if the person appointed was. There needs to be transparency, and if it hurts political a few political careers, to bad, we need a cleaner government.

Posted by: win1 | December 10, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

It turns out the June 2008 post on the Hillarians was an excerpt from a much longer (but just as hilarious) "future news" post at:
http://www.correntewire.com/future_news_lost_tribe_of_hillary_holdouts_discovered

The Hillarians may well be losers and mentals but you have to admire their unhinged total devotion to their blond pants suited leader.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who might know:

Is Blago a Serb or a Croat?

Us I-talians have a hard time telling them apart,

:-)

Posted by: toritto | December 10, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Jesse Jackson, Jr., said "He had earned the seat," Reid seems to have the same mentality that we citizens of Illinois should have no say in who is going to sit in the senate. What difference does it make if there is no one in that seat inasmuch as Obama, in his four years, NEVER, EVER, warmed that seat. I'm for a special election. Who cares what Reid or Pelosi think. And, they should be worried that this senate seat will go to a Republican.

Posted by: marine2211 | December 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

So this is the political system that spit out Obama.

Posted by: AG1231 | December 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

----------------------------------------- Yes, it is. I have long had suspicions about which orifice Bush, Cheney, and Rove made their exit into this world from. And it did involve two ply paper.

Posted by: dennissuper | December 10, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

JJ MAY NOT BE AT FAULT; FOUND: THE ORIGINAL HILLARIAN POSTING FROM JUNE:

Jesse Jackson may not be involved after all.

Disagreeing with the MSM, Smokinggun.com is reporting Candidate 5 is some older AA State Senator named Jones, who has the kind of huge campaign war chest that would be needed to pay Blags 500K. JJ does not have those resources. The Blags complaint also indicated O didn't care for whoever Candidate 5 is: O likes JJ but not this character Jones. So chances are it's Jones not JJ.

SPECIAL ENCORE POSTING FROM June 2008!!!!
This is the greatest post I have ever read on the past election. It says "cokecan" is the poster, but I believe "angriestdog" also posted this gem at some point. [I have tried to continue to write about the legend of the Hillarians (just as Kingsley Amis continued James Bond after Ian Fleming), but I can't match the brillance of the original posting about those hapless losers and mentals.] Now, from June of 2008, the Hillarians --

"Lost Tribe Of Hillary Holdouts Found

- BREAKING NEWS -

The first contact in several years with remnants of a holdout band of Hillary Clinton supporters took place yesterday, with a helicopter flyover identifying the handful of survivors. Unwilling to concede that the 2008 Democratic presidential primary had been fairly conducted, the hardy but dwindling tribe became increasingly isolated during the Obama/Leahy administrations, eschewing television and rumored to be surviving only on moss, pant suit juice and the occasional squirrel.

Following the merger of the Republican and Democratic Parties and repeal of the 22nd Amendment in 2015 which allowed Beloved Leader Obama's election to a third term by an unprecedented Electoral College vote of 538 - 0, the tribe disappeared and has not been heard from for several years. Until this sighting, the continued existence of the "Hillarians" was doubted and their story had passed into the realm of urban legend.

Posted by: pubichaironmycokecan | June 4, 2008 11:04 PM"

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 10, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

It's not only the economy that's shaky, it is our system of government. It was Ryan recently, then Craig (him of the wide stance- at least he did not get caught in corruption, but was caught with his pants down, much like Clintin!) then Congresw'man Musgrave (but she was smart enough to fool everyone though she was elected most corrupt rep) then Paylin and now BlugBlug'oBlugee. Then somewhere in there the guy from NY running a prostitution service etc etc. Obviously, the legislature won't legislate professional behavior for the members of the house or senate. that is expected only from us plebs who visit the house or senate! But these bozos work for us and we need to demand professional and ethical behavior and impose penalties (not just "we won't vote for you" or "kick the bums out") that will deter criminal behavior. The US gov't used to be looked upon as a beacon in the world. Now it looks like a den of criminals. (Yeah, I know, BlugBlug has yet to be convicted so he is innocent until....buwahhahahahahaharhardehar.)

Posted by: yard80197 | December 10, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

This isn't the Boss of All Bosses. Da Mayor, Dick Daley, calls the shots from Chicago and he is still the boss which no others may operate in this state with out kissing his ring. Daley may not be able to spell La Cosa Nostra but the boys in Sicily could learn how to run a real organization from our officials. When we see him do the Perp Walk justice will be taken seriously in Illinois... go Peter!

Posted by: Michael57825 | December 10, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

As for the topic at hand. I'd like to see Jesse Jackson Jr. appointed to the seat vacated by Obama.

The citizens of Illinois who voted Obama to the Senate trusted him and therefore its only right and fitting that someone who Obama feels would support his interests(ending Black Self-hatred and White Supremacy) should hold his vacated seat.

And don't forget that Obama raised over 750 million dollars and still has a huge surplus. There was no way he was going to be involved with selling his seat for 500 grand.

As for Obama granting a pardon to Blago, that's possible but he would have to have been tried and convicted first which would negate any leverage he would have in terms of implicating anyone Black in this scheme.

So I doubt if a pardon would be fourth coming.

TKCAL


Posted by: Realbrother86 | December 10, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

This guy from Ill. who is Govenor will not, unless he is proven guilty of crimes he comitted, which could take years, give up his position as Govenor. It cost him too much to get there and there he will and intends to stay. So everybody save their breath and stop carrying on.

As far as this country is concerned, there doesn't appear to be ONE ELECTED SENATOR, CONGRESSMAN, REP OR DEM. WHO IS NOT ON THE TAKE AND THEY ALL ARE CROOKS.

MY QUESTION IS: when does jeb bush get into the act. i understand he is being primed for senator of fla., which is the beginnings of a climb to thr white house and here we go again!

Posted by: LOONYBIN2000 | December 10, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

[God help me, that post just made my day. Even Racists and White Supremacists get capital letters, but Black man hating lesbians march in lower case for Real Brother.I thought of Realbrother when I heard that Jesse Jr. might be implicated in this fiasco - thinking that surely he will see the hand of black man hating lesbians at work.The joke's on you, brother. You've got 2/3 of an argument, and 1/3 of a neurosis that begs mockery.]

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Mancuso stop that. Racists and White Supremacists are proper titles and as such receive Caps. Black man hating lesbians not being capped is because these aren't titles just descriptive of lesbians who hate Black men.

As for your claim that I have 2/3 of an argument by correctly pointing out how Racists and hard core White Supremacists do indeed oppose Obama because he's Black and seems to eschew White Supremacy you would be hard pressed to make the case that Black man hating lesbians overwhelmingly support Barack Obama.

Sure, many Black lesbians like the crowd of straight an bisexual Black women who support Obama but they are feigning support only to get next to the women who are drawn to him.

No neurosis or mockery at all.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother86 | December 10, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Realbrother86 wrote, "its only slightly surprising that the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians didn't give up after Obama so severely defeated them in the election."

God help me, that post just made my day. Even Racists and White Supremacists get capital letters, but Black man hating lesbians march in lower case for Real Brother.

I thought of Realbrother when I heard that Jesse Jr. might be implicated in this fiasco - thinking that surely he will see the hand of black man hating lesbians at work.

The joke's on you, brother. You've got 2/3 of an argument, and 1/3 of a neurosis that begs mockery.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 10, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

AG1231 wrote, "So this is the political system that spit out Obama."

If this is intended as a criticism of the president elect, you might want to fill in some blanks, unless your argument is of the form, "The communist party had members in Hollywood, Zero Mostel worked in Hollywood, therefore Zero Mostel was a communist."

Posted by: officermancuso | December 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Again, its only slightly surprising that the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians didn't give up after Obama so severely defeated them in the election.

Its why we couldn't allow the guilt by living in the same State that the Conservatives and Hillary Supporters wanted to level against Obama.

The slippery slope that began with nonsense like Obama rhyming with Osama and other such silliness would be too difficult for anyone to follow.

There is no question that the White Supremacists in the State Department(Obama as President-elect is briefed daily) told him about this and Obama had to take time out of saving the Nation to deal with this crap.

Those that see Obama's brilliance and genius and supported him won't think any less of him as a result of this, while the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians who have always been opposed to him for being born a Black man will still despise him.

Obama will continue to look forward.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother86 | December 10, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Cometboy is right—any hint of any remote possibility that Obama could possibly pardon Blagojevich is simple delusion.

But as long as we're indulging in delusional speculation, what might be the result were Pres. Bush (for a few more weeks at least) to Pardon him? Blago's already shown he's ready to deal—perhaps he'd trade freedom for Bush's choice of Ill. Senator.

...and as long as we're still describing a cartoon, how about the Obama's last Senatorial opponent (and true cartoon charactor), Alan Keyes? Think of Bush, Cheney and King o'Zouk getting warm tingles up their legs just thinking of that.

OK, Kouk, you can take it from here—should generate enough posting material to keep you busy for days.


Posted by: malis | December 10, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Just one more question: What the hell is this:

Tag in Del.icio.us

Been seeing it all year & don't know what it is.

Posted by: AsperGirl | December 10, 2008 6:02 PM |
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uhh, if you have your own site on delicious or whatever you can automatically post on both sites.

So... any question this throws a monkey wrench into how Rodham Clinton is going to pay off that campaign debt.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | December 10, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Of course he prefers it - he's more likely to be able to wheel and deal if it's an appointment than an election.

That said, it's amusing hearing the whining from the Permanent Minority of the Socialist Republicans. Guess they forgot how many of their comrades are in jail or should be ...

Posted by: WillSeattle | December 10, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

So this is the political system that spit out Obama.

Posted by: AG1231 | December 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

The Senate's ability to exercise its
"Constitutional authority under Article I, Section 5, to determine whether such a person should be seated" is not as straight forward as Reid appears to assert. The Supreme Court has ruled that under Art. I section 5 Congress has only the ability to judge whether a member-elect meets the exclusive standing requirements of age, citizenship and residency.

So, if Blagojevich appoints someone who is at least 30 years old, has been a US citizen for at least nine years, and is currently a resident of IL, then the Senate has to seat the person. The Senate's only option for prohibiting that person from actually serving as a Senator is to expel him or her by a 2/3 vote.

Synopsis with link to full opinion is here:

http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1968/1968_138/

Posted by: mtl2 | December 10, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl:

The ONLY way Obama would pardon him is if Blago has absolute proof of his direct involvement in the pay to play scheme. Otherwise the new President would be opening his tenure by rolling in Blago's scandal, thereby covering himself with it. He'd need a very personal reason to do it.

So far it seems that Obama is untouched by this and even looks good for his refusal to play along with the sale. We'll see where it goes from there. If he pardons Blago for any reason, that will change. It will LOOK like a coverup and destroy his presidency before it gets going.

Posted by: cometboy | December 10, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Senate Majority Leader wants a vacant seat likely to be filled by a member of his own party to be filled as soon as possible. This is especially important to him as the first 100 days of a new administration after a change of party in the White House typically see an onslaught of legislative proposals that won't have a prayer of passing after another 100 days have passed and pretensions of bipartisanship give way to reality.

Additionally the special election option obviously introduces an element of risk, however small, that disgusted Illinois voters might elect a Republican.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 10, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

bsimon1:

Don't be deceived.

He can cause a LOT of mischief with the seat. He could still appoint himself to it, which would tie up the senate for months while they justify expelling him and then do it. Half of the next congress would be tied up with it and the resulting special election.

He could also threaten to put in a republican as well, though Keyes would be a dumb choice. While there isn't a dem in the state stupid enough to take a Blago nod for the senate, the GOP would most definitely take the chance given their situation.

The value of this as a bargaining chip is that he has FULL power to do what he wants, but only until the legislature takes it away. So, you can bet he's already let it be known that he wants things worked out before that happens.

Posted by: cometboy | December 10, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Congress making the selection is just more "politics as usual." You can be assured it will be a selection made by political power. Enough already.
It is time for NEW blood in Congress and certainly out of the circle of Chicago style politics. The people of Illinois need to vote on the now open US Senate seat. And hopefully we can trust them to put into office someone outside the old style Chicago politic circle. This is not a state seat but a UNITED STATES seat, meaning this individual represents ALL the people, not just Chicago and or Illinois. Leave it in the hands of the Illinois VOTERS. Hols a special election.
Illinois Voters, stop the pattern and put in someone that Illinois and all Americans can trust.

Posted by: Texan2007 | December 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"If you're Blago, you have to be thinking that the senate seat and your ability to name names are your ONLY bargaining chips at this point."

Not sure how the seat works for him, unless you're thinking as a defensive position; i.e. "do this for me, or I appoint Alan Keyes". But that really makes his position worse, given that extorsion is still a crime. So: his last chips are his ability to name names. If the Feds have tapped his phones for long, he might not be able to add much they don't already know, unless you mean to go back a number of years.

Posted by: bsimon1 | December 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"So I'm sure Blago's working a plea deal right now where he gets reduced sentences in exchange for providing full documentation on every crooked deal he can prove (the Illinois dems must be shaking in their boots over this) and also resigning in time for Quinn to pick the new senator before the next congress sits. That combination could keep his years in jail down in the single digits. Otherwise?..."

Posted by: cometboy | December 10, 2008 6:00 PM

Obama could always pardon him, if he plays along and acts nice. Since the stuff was all talk but no pay.

Posted by: AsperGirl | December 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

That's cool... the senate can reject an appointee who is being appointed by someone who was selling the seat. That actually makes sense.

Just one more question: What the hell is this:

Tag in Del.icio.us

Been seeing it all year & don't know what it is.

Posted by: AsperGirl | December 10, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

If you're Blago, you have to be thinking that the senate seat and your ability to name names are your ONLY bargaining chips at this point. Fitzgerald will surely be interested in shining a light on all his previous deals. He probably couldn't care less about the timing for filling the senate seat, but his soon to be new bosses in DC most definitely DO.

So I'm sure Blago's working a plea deal right now where he gets reduced sentences in exchange for providing full documentation on every crooked deal he can prove (the Illinois dems must be shaking in their boots over this) and also resigning in time for Quinn to pick the new senator before the next congress sits. That combination could keep his years in jail down in the single digits. Otherwise?

Bottom line. Expect a deal BEFORE anything else gets settled.

Turns out the senate seat may be golden after all, just not in the way he originally thought!

Posted by: cometboy | December 10, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

maybe blago will just appoint a republican and thus screw everyone over royally.

Posted by: cprach | December 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

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