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Sarah Palin become an issue in KY-Senate primary

Updated, 5:10 pm
Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson said today that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was not currently qualified to be president, an admission that his Republican opponent immediately moved to exploit in advance of their May 18 intraparty squabble.

"Not today," Grayson said when asked about Palin's qualifications for the nation's top office in an editorial board meeting with the Louisville Courier-Journal. "I think she had the position to be the vice president," he added. "She wasn't running for president, she was running for vice president."

The campaign of ophthalmologist Rand Paul, who has been endorsed by Palin, immediately sent the clip around far and wide -- believing that Grayson's too-frank-by-half admission would erode his support among conservatives in advance of their May 18 Senate faceoff. (Paul got another boost late today when outgoing Sen. Jim Bunning endorsed, calling him a "strong, principled conservative".)

The question -- and Grayson's answer -- speak to what is almost certain to be a growing problem for establishment Republicans as they seek office.

The simple truth is that behind closed doors most establishment Republicans and party poobahs don't believe that Palin is currently qualified to be president of the United States.

But, they also recognize that Palin is -- without question -- the symbolic leader of the Tea Party movement and speaking ill (or anywhere close to ill) of her creates the possibility that the most enthusiastic piece of the GOP base will turn on them and, in doing so, jeopardize their chances at winning.

And so, few -- if any -- leaders within the party will answer the question as directly as Grayson. Instead, they will say things like "that decision isn't up to me, it's up to the voters" and other sorts of rhetorical obfuscation that keeps them from getting crosswise with the former governor of Alaska.

(A useful counterpoint: In a February Washington Post/ABC News poll, 52 percent of self-identified Republicans don't think Palin is qualified to be president while 46 percent said she is qualified.)

Expect Democrats to use that closeness to Palin against Republicans in general election fights in swing states where the 2008 vice presidential nominee is something short of popular -- particularly with independent voters.

By Chris Cillizza  |  April 14, 2010; 4:40 PM ET
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Grayson merely said what many Republicans, including me, think. I wouldn't have said it, however. Grayson needs the Republican base in the primary against Rand Paul. In the state of Kentucky, Palin's endorsement is considered a positive think in the GE and an extremely positive thing in the R primary. I think this race is dead even right now and Palin's involvement in this race and Bunning's could determine this primary.

Posted by: reason5 | April 16, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I am still wating for 37thand0street to make one single intelligent, well thought out comment, and waiting and waiting...

Posted by: Franktheliberal | April 15, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

37- You don't seem to understand compound sentences. Obama said, "Whether we like it or not, we remain the dominant military Superpower AND when conflicts break out, one way or another we get pulled into it."

We have an obligation to safeguard the world, whether we like it or not. That's hardly weak or anti-American.

BTW, kudos to Trey Grayson for saying what anyone with half a brain should know. Sarah Palin is a dynamic personality with a future in entertainment. She won't pass up those bucks just to apply for a silly little job like, POTUS.

Posted by: Uncle_Joe | April 15, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Grayson's admission and correction of her past run for VP is correct. She wasn't qualified to be a viable VP even though her supporters said otherwise. A woman who ran for Governor, and quit, midstream, in a State that's complex problems are small, isn't qualified to run for President, either. She's a good looking cheer leader. Same for Ms. Bachman. I hope they both go on record now on this issue, because when they do, they split the Right Wing of the Right Wing Party.
The risks for the GOP amount to walking a very sharp bladed razor blade. Tell the truth, alienate some of the actual Republican voters .. not independents who typically vote Republican. The core of the Republican Party may see as much as 10% of it's supporters vote for Rand Paul -- the Tea Party candidate. If that happens, then perhaps the GOP will essentially amount to a circular firing squad.
The Democrats may not do as badly as everyone thinks when these two ideological elements of the GOP fire on each other. There is, in fact, an ideological struggle under way in the GOP and Right Wing. If that "must pass test" that some floated -- required answers for a list of "are you really a conservative" questions becomes a fundamental litmus for gaining voter support, there will be many Republicans who will answer in the affirmative.
All of this shifts the entire GOP farther right, whether moderate Republicans want that or not. If Rand Paul wins, that will be quite a story.
Only when Third Party candidates win at the local or State Level, will people on the sidelines make up their mind on what that Third Party amounts to.
So far as Sarah Palin is concerned, she's a loser. She will have to convince millions of Americans she's just interested in glorification of herself and of making money.

Posted by: zennheadd | April 15, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Another (one of many) problem for the "establishment republican" is that a much less qualified candidate (than Former Gov Palin) won the last presidential election.

Posted by: awunsch | April 15, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 15, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

but, but , but the Tea Party says' their not republicans....

Posted by: newagent99 | April 15, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

why the pidgin title?

Posted by: Noacoler | April 15, 2010 3:36 AM | Report abuse

She is a bit of fluff, a piece of lint, on the fabric of democracy, to be brushed off and forgotten in the annals of history except as an artifact of a failing 'movement.'

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I think a more apt metaphor would be some kind of phage virus. Palin is simple and stupid but she *is* dangerous, for the same reason a virus consisting of a few strands of RNA and a protein coat can take out a vertebrate at the pinnacle of evolution, by exploiting an unsecured mechanism in the vastly more sophisticated eukaryote.

Palin has the brains of a guppy but that nastiness resonates with a lot of really deplorable people and overpowers the reasoning of much smarter people with appeals to the reptiliian brain. It's long overdue for the press and the GOP to abandon the pretense that she's in some way important. Dangerous, yes, important, no.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 15, 2010 3:21 AM | Report abuse

The squirrel eater from Alaska reminds me of Ross Perot only Ross Perot did not need the money.

Posted by: Geopolitics101 | April 15, 2010 2:47 AM | Report abuse

@bsimon: "The Emperor's New Clothes"

Give Grayson credit for having the courage to speak the evident but unpopular truth. A rare GOPper who has a nodding acquaintance with reality

Posted by: Noacoler | April 15, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Earlier in the day, you were actually trying to post some thoughts that, while not exactly coherent, were at least ATTEMPTING to make a little sense.

And now you've returned to form.

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"I knew bit was too good to last."
-- King Marchand (James Garner) "Victor/Victoria"

Posted by: Noacoler | April 15, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

"The simple truth is that behind closed doors most establishment Republicans and party poobahs don't believe that Palin is currently qualified to be president of the United States."

Currently? ROFLOL. I mean seriously, people, can we get real here? She is a bit of fluff, a piece of lint, on the fabric of democracy, to be brushed off and forgotten in the annals of history except as an artifact of a failing 'movement.'

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Unless the surgical procedure in "Flowers for Algernon" becomes reality, that "currently" is a superfluous and misleading word.

Palin really is stupid, it's not a manufactured impression.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 15, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

37--

why do you hate our soldiers?

Posted by: apesca | April 14, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

apesca


No - one one is saying anything about that


Obama said "Whether we like it or not, American is still the dominant military power"

That has nothing to do with putting soldiers in harm's way - or our allies pulling their own weight.

It has to do with Obama's PERSONAL CONVICTIONS.


It has to do with whether Obama is OUT-OF-TOUCH WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.


Obama has NO BUSINESS BEING PRESIDENT IF HE THINKS AMERICA SHOULD NOT BE THE DOMINANT MILITARY POWER ON EARTH.

OBAMA should resign immediately.

Obama should be impeached - this is getting out of control with him.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

apesca


No - one one is saying anything about that


Obama said "Whether we like it or not, American is still the dominant military power"

That has nothing to do with putting soldiers in harm's way - or our allies pulling their own weight.

It has to do with Obama's PERSONAL CONVICTIONS.


It has to do with whether Obama is OUT-OF-TOUCH WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.


Obama has NO BUSINESS BEING PRESIDENT IF HE THINKS AMERICA SHOULD NOT BE THE DOMINANT MILITARY POWER ON EARTH.

OBAMA should resign immediately.

Obama should be impeached - this is getting out of control with him.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Bondosan


Obama said that "Whether we like it or not, America is still the dominant military power."

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

37:

What happened?

Earlier in the day, you were actually trying to post some thoughts that, while not exactly coherent, were at least ATTEMPTING to make a little sense.

And now you've returned to form.

Is it the meds? Do they wear off after a few hours?

Maybe it's time for bed. Tomorrow you can try again (but please limit yourself to only one or two posts per thread, okay?)

Thanks!

Posted by: Bondosan | April 14, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Is it because that as a dominant military power, it is our responsibility to spill the blood of OUR own soldiers so that we may ensure the security our allies?

Is it because you enjoy seeing American soldiers die?

Posted by: apesca | April 14, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

37, I understand that you find it unpatriotic. I'm just trying to figure out exactly why you find it unpatriotic?

Posted by: apesca | April 14, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

apesca


So you are implying that Obama's position is that the country should CUT its military budget to the point at which we are NOT the dominant military power ???

Is this Obama's real objective???

Does FOREIGN AGENT SOUND FAMILIAR ???

Sure doesn't sound like the Obama who made commitments to the nation in the debate on foreign policy.


AGAIN - IF THAT IS OBAMA'S OBJECTIVE, HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE IMMEDIATELY.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

apesca


Fine - you can say that - but I still find it to be unpatriotic - and certainly NOT something the President should be saying.

I can't wait to hear that soundbite in commericals.

The problem with Obama is that he appears to confirm everything people say about him.


Next thing we are going to hear is that Obama himself saying he was born in Africa, but "natural-born" doesn't mean what everyone thinks it means - and he should remain in office.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Hate to break it to you, 37 but the tenuous connection between the quote you tout and the conclusion you draw rings false.

Maybe you could explain exactly how love of one's country equates to a love of the overwhelming responsibility and cost that comes of being a dominant military superpower?

Posted by: apesca | April 14, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Rick Perry made one comment one day - saying that the Federal government should not trample on the rights of Texas - that statement also put him ahead in the polls - for good.

There is probably a great deal about Rick Perry that you won't like - you might even hate.

Well anyway - you can complain all you want about the idea of electing Jefferson Davis to be President of the Union - but hey - it works.

Rick Perry is going to run for President

Rick Perry is going to run an extremely strong campaign - and given the field he can probably beat Romney. Ron Paul is going to be strong, but his support is limited. Of the other candidates, they really are not exciting the Republican primary electorate in a way that could build momentum.

So there you have it.

You can dream on.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Congrats, 37. You ran everyone off. Mission Accomplished. So it's up to me, I guess, to turn off the lights. I'll leave you with this.
____________

"The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own. But as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over. Now you will find peace for eternity."

Out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

One prob, 37. Gov. Perry is a avowed secessionist. He is vying to be the President of the United State of Texas. And most would disagree with his 1861 idea for achieving "full employment" for minorities.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

So broadwayjoe


Instead of responding to Obama's statement that appears to indicate that he doesn't like that American is the dominant military power,

you decide to come up with some racist statment ?

OH well - I guess I have to take your silence as you agree with Obama - and therefore you are UNPATRIOTIC JUST LIKE OBAMA.

Obama should resign immediately - he is a disgrace to our country.

The soundbites are going to be amazing from this one -


I have one question for you: what is wrong with this guy ???

Is there ANY OTHER PERSON IN THE COUNTRY WHO WOULD SAY SUCH A THING???

YES, WE HAVE TO QUESTION WHETHER OBAMA IS AN AMERICAN.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Broadway,


Over the past two days, I have given some thoughts on the nomination.


So you can look back at those posts.

I think Rick Perry is going to be the guy.


Ron Paul has real strengths - and the health care debate logically falls into his issues of significantly smaller government.

Romney is just not catching on - his best move is to be the man behind Scott Brown - and try to get Scott Brown elected - I don't know whether his ego will allow him to do that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Broadway,


Over the past two days, I have given some thoughts on the nomination.


So you can look back at those posts.

I think Rick Perry is going to be the guy.


Ron Paul has real strengths - and the health care debate logically falls into his issues of significantly smaller government.

Romney is just not catching on - his best move is to be the man behind Scott Brown - and try to get Scott Brown elected - I don't know whether his ego will allow him to do that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Broadway,


Over the past two days, I have given some thoughts on the nomination.


So you can look back at those posts.

I think Rick Perry is going to be the guy.


Ron Paul has real strengths - and the health care debate logically falls into his issues of significantly smaller government.

Romney is just not catching on - his best move is to be the man behind Scott Brown - and try to get Scott Brown elected - I don't know whether his ego will allow him to do that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

To answer your question, 37, I don't know whether or when Mr. Gregory Charles Royal will respond to his country's call to get Phalin to waive her "policy" and then to, er, "qualify" her for higher office. But please have faith and patience.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


You yourself have complained that Sarah gets way too much attention.


And you continue to use sexual slurs to refer to her.

At this point, I would have to say that YOU AGREE THAT YOU BROADWAYJOE AND OBAMA ARE BOTH UNPATRIOTIC.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


You yourself have complained that Sarah gets way too much attention.


And you continue to use sexual slurs to refer to her.

At this point, I would have to say that YOU AGREE THAT YOU BROADWAYJOE AND OBAMA ARE BOTH UNPATRIOTIC.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

"The simple truth is that behind closed doors most establishment Republicans and party poobahs don't believe that Palin is currently qualified to be president of the United States."

Really? 37, what do you have to say about what Fix said there? Fix's slight of la Phalin deserves at least another 34 carpet-posts from you, no?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama said -


"Whether we like it or not, we remain the dominant military power."

NOW OBAMA SHOULD RESIGN.

This means that Obama is not proud of America.

Obama has actually become a disgrace to this country.


If you don't believe American should be the strongest country on Earth, you have no business being President.

It has now become UNPATRIOTIC to support Obama - and that means every person - personally - on this blog who supports Obama who apparently thinks the US should not be the dominant military power.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe

waiting for your response

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe

waiting for your response

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe

waiting for your response

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

37, I didn't get it the first 23 times you posted your message. Say again.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse


Do you like it that American is the dominant military power ???

Sure sounds like Obama is pretty unpatriotic to say something like that.

America is the strongest country on Earth -

And OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE IT ???

Oh boy - Obama should RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.

Obams should be impeached.

You guys have nothing to say about this.

Obama has to go.... you guys can't still support this guy after this one.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse


Do you like it that American is the dominant military power ???

Sure sounds like Obama is pretty unpatriotic to say something like that.

America is the strongest country on Earth -

And OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE IT ???

Oh boy - Obama should RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.

Obams should be impeached.

You guys have nothing to say about this.

Obama has to go.... you guys can't still support this guy after this one.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse


Do you like it that American is the dominant military power ???

Sure sounds like Obama is pretty unpatriotic to say something like that.

America is the strongest country on Earth -

And OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE IT ???

Oh boy - Obama should RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.

Obams should be impeached.

You guys have nothing to say about this.

Obama has to go.... you guys can't still support this guy after this one.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

You can see, just on this blog, why Palin is a media darling.

Chris writes posts and they get 60 or 70 responses. He writes about a local election and he might have just 15 or 20 responses. He mentions Palin and he goes over 400 responses. Fast. The fact that it descends into flaming and name calling. Meh. People logged on and thats what counts tot he press.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 14, 2010 6:02 PM
_____________

The ultimate goal is for the Mothership (Drudge) to link to Fix. That's like hitting the lottery. LOL.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

DDawd


Do you like it that America is the dominant military power ????

Yea, this DOES question Obama's patriotism.

This is worse than Michelle's "first time I was proud of my country" statement.


Ouch - Obama just held the MOST MORONIC SUMMIT IN THE HISTORY OF EARTH. check.


He got photo ops with 46 world leaders. check


He got a bump in the polls. check

AND ONE MAJOR BLUNDER THAT OBAMA WILL NEVER EVER LIVE DOWN.


Check

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe - I want you to answer this question


Since the entire Obamafest crew seems to be here let me ask you directly


Do you like it that American is the dominant military power ???


OR do you not like it ???


Because it SURE APPEARS THAT OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE IT.


What do you say, O Obamaheads?


Please tell us.

America deserves a patriotic President - and yes, I am - oh wait - Obama himself is questioning his patriotism.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Shrink. McConnell referred to it as a taxpayer bailout. It's actually a bank funded dissolution. So not taxpayer funded and not a bailout. Do two lies cancel each other out?

Republicans are disgusting. They will pay in November if they keep this up.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 14, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Margaret thank you for comparing me to a cartoon hero.

Broadwayjoe again - would you please stop with the sexual slurs - if you continue, I guess the n-word is OK with you.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

MM, I'll take it from here.

Hey, 37, look into a mirror and say "Candyman" three times. Then just wait around for awhile...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Gregory Charles Royal, your country needs you! You must take one for the team. Come back and give "it" another try. Pleaaaaase save us from more Phalin.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

It's like in those cartoons where the character spins faster and faster until he screws himself into the ground. That's what I picture when I see 37th posting frenzied thought after frenzied thought.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 14, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse


Since the entire Obamafest crew seems to be here let me ask you directly

Do you like it that American is the dominant military power ???

OR do you not like it ???

Because it SURE APPEARS THAT OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE IT.

What do you say, O Obamaheads?

Please tell us.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse


Since the entire Obamafest crew seems to be here let me ask you directly

Do you like it that American is the dominant military power ???

OR do you not like it ???

Because it SURE APPEARS THAT OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE IT.

What do you say, O Obamaheads?

Please tell us.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama at the nuclear summit:


"Whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower."

This is an impeachable offense - NO US PRESIDENT SHOULD EVER SAY ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

One really has to wonder.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

How good is Kevin Durant? Great player, reminds me of Gervin. Sorry for the interruption, 37. You were saying you respect the President and will do what you can to promote his agenda...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"Whether we like it or not, America is the strongest country on Earth."

Obama, are you proud of America???

Is Obama even an American ??? Americans are proud of their country.


Case closed.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama is...[that kid, sure he beat me but, but the whole time, I wished I was the one doing it!]...you beat up on the playground.


Warning!
The 37th guy might have overdosed!

Chris, maybe tonight is the night.
Put him to sleep, he needs it.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Whether we like it or not, America is strongest country on Earth.

What a wonderful soundbite for 2012.


Obama is a moron - he is the kind of kid you beat up on the playground.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Gotta focus on the positive. Today, on the other thread, we had the second positive mention of the 44th President of the United States in the last TWO years.
Hoo-ray!

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

37th and crazy is here! Obessessed with President Obama isn't he? Can't even stick to the topic which is "Conservatives eat their own."

I thought all the birthers had tucked tail and slunk away in humiliation.

Posted by: arancia12 | April 14, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

We...[something about the black people]...them.

Republicans just can not figure out why colored people don't like them.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

There is definitely a racism in the black community - many of them had to vote for Obama on the basis of the color of his skin - not on policy support.

This is a problem.

Whites are not allowed to do that - that amounts to a double standard which is nothing but racist.

This is why broadwayjoe is clearly racist - he supports these actions.

What is worse, is broadwayjoe uses the racism in the black community to try to smear the Tea Party Movement - and falsely accuse them of racism.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Good for Grayson ... and Rand Paul just shot himself in the foot.

Posted by: knjincvc | April 14, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

We really should do a survey of the black community - and find out how many of them really do believe in smaller government.


Then we should do some calculations.

Because at least some of them have to be concerned about seeming anti-Obama if they go to the Tea Party events.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

William Bennett-style thought experiment:

Would America be burdened today by Phalin and her madness if black trombonist Gregory Charles Royal had been able to get her to waive her "policy"?

As William once said, it's just a thought experiment.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 14, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Jake


Can you call the health department in Hawaii and ask them if a "certificate of live birth" is issued to American mothers who have babies outside the country.


Someone told me this is the case.


If it is the case, then what we have seen proves nothing.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

"It's an Obamafest here tonight."

Another example of East Coast bias.
Out here on the other side, we are still hardly working!

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

It's an Obamafest here tonight.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Palin isn't qualified to be dog catcher.

Posted by: vztownes | April 14, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

dawd, I got it,
makes sense,
thank you.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

has anyone bothered to tell her that the 2008 election is over and guess what Sarah your side got creamed 365 electoral votes to 173. It wasn't even close. Can't imagine what the media would be saying today if was a guy lets say Ron Paul running around the country raking in $12 million and being unaware that they got slammed in the POTUS election 1 1/2 years ago. Most Americans frankly are uninterested in a 4 year POTUS Campaign/Book tour by Ms. Palin and have more important things to worry about then lining her pockets.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 14, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

"The simple truth is that behind closed doors most establishment Republicans and party poobahs don't believe that Palin is currently qualified to be president of the United States."

Currently? ROFLOL. I mean seriously, people, can we get real here? She is a bit of fluff, a piece of lint, on the fabric of democracy, to be brushed off and forgotten in the annals of history except as an artifact of a failing 'movement.'

Posted by: drindl | April 14, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

CBS reported this evening that 62% of TeaBaggers support the socialist programs
Medicare and Social Security. They claim they
have paid 100% of the cost of Medicare which is utter nonsense. I understand that 80% of them are Medicare age, but why can't they understand the hypocrisy of supporting our nation's largest socialist programs Medicare and SS, while at the same time railing against and carrying signs urging ending Obama's so called socialist HC plan. In otherwords government HC for Teabaggers and none for the rest of us. How about just asking the 38% of TeaBaggers who oppose Medicare and SS to simply forfeit their benefits.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 14, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/FinancialReformSummary231510FINAL.pdf

Start at page 3. It's about dealing with systemic risks. Part of it is about discouraging banks to get too big in the first place. Part of it is about disallowing these banks to make risky transactions as well as place stringent limits on liquidity, capital, and risk management.

The part I was talking about is about something called "funeral plans" Basically, these big companies would have to submit plans for conducting an orderly shutdown. The cost of the shutdown will be placed on the shareholders and the management is fired. The money for it will come from other financial firms, I believe. The point is that the money won't come from taxpayers.

You can probably muddle your way through it better than I can, shrink (or just about anyone else)

Posted by: DDAWD | April 14, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

yes, shrink, that's exactly what I meant, haha.

I'm just trying to come to grips with what the bill is trying to do, but I think a part of it is to manage the failure of these mammoth institutions. This will be done in a way in which the too-big-to-fail banks will be allowed to fail, but done so in a way that will prevent them from taking the economy down with it.

I might be completely misunderstanding what's going on here, so don't go and repeat what I'm saying to your bar buddies, but that's kind of my rudimentary feeling about this.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 14, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

dawd, I'm trying to keep up. Bear with me, please. You are joking about the evolution and disintegration of financial cells into membrane-bound particles that are then eliminated by phagocytosis or shedding?

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Please let the Politics of Hopeful delusion hold up until about August, so that when CC's Republican resurgence falls flat on its face there is no chance for the Party to come to its senses and begin looking for politicians who can at least spell reality.

Then again, if the realists want to bail now, and Grayson, Thompson, and Pataki are a start, that's OK by me.

I'd LOVE to see the Tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, and the Great Pumpkin and friends occupy prominent places in the RNC for the next few years.

Goldilocks is well ensconced in that itty bitty bears bed right now.

Posted by: ceflynline | April 14, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

You can see, just on this blog, why Palin is a media darling.

Chris writes posts and they get 60 or 70 responses. He writes about a local election and he might have just 15 or 20 responses. He mentions Palin and he goes over 400 responses. Fast. The fact that it descends into flaming and name calling. Meh. People logged on and thats what counts tot he press.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 14, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/14/AR2010041402763.html?hpid=topnews

I guess I'll be link monkey for a bit.

But I think McConnell is going to stick to his claim that Dodd's bill will result in an endless stream of bailouts.

But I think we're seeing the evolution of financial apoptosis.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 14, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

God, this is funny.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | April 14, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

"I've never seen the words "off the hook" used in such a serious, analytical manner"

Steele really should have said "off da hook" to get more street cred.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 14, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Well color me confused.
I find the GOP's public relations highly offensive.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

"...O’s watch has alongggggg ways to go..."

More bipartisan agreement.
Obama's plan is working!

"...So are those Wall Street stock brokers good or bad..."

The economic disaster had nothing to do with stock brokers or the stock market, except that it crashed in the wake of the Bush/Cheney lost decade and is now coming back.

You see, the stock market is a place where people make bets. Brokers are just bookies.

Our equity markets are among other things, a direct measure of world wide confidence in the American economy.

As for the cause(s) of the lost decade, how we lost confidence in American business and economic leadership, that would be off topic.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Huh? What? Black people aren't flocking to the GOP because of a black figurehead? What is this world coming to??

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/14/AR2010041403104.html?hpid=topnews

Steele falling behind on pledge to woo more minorities to GOP

The best sentence...

"Beyond a handful of speeches by Steele before minority audiences, there is little evidence the GOP has launched an "off the hook" public relations offensive that would take the party to "urban-suburban hip-hop settings," as Steele promised in an interview with the Washington Times shortly after taking the RNC reins."

I've never seen the words "off the hook" used in such a serious, analytical manner.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 14, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

leapin: "Um shrinky..O’s watch has alongggggg ways to go. The D bagger free luch party lambasts Wall St for economic collapse but praises the rising stock market as proof Comarade Berry’s success. So are those Wall Street stock brokers good or bad NeoCom statists?"

There really should be a requirement that posters have to be proficient in the English language.


Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 14, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Republicans should stop predicting disaster on Obama's watch (didn't happen) and start talking about sustainability. They should worry not just about the 47% of Americans who don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. They should worry about the 40% of people who work full time jobs who have no retirement accounts.
Remember Republicans, the people who make you rich are not the same people you somehow get to keep voting for you.
Posted by: shrink2
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Um shrinky..O’s watch has alongggggg ways to go. The D bagger free luch party lambasts Wall St for economic collapse but praises the rising stock market as proof Comarade Berry’s success. So are those Wall Street stock brokers good or bad NeoCom statists?

Posted by: leapin | April 14, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, duh!

Posted by: hoser3 | April 14, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Trey Parker ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 14, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Is a Bunning endorsement even a boost? Isn't the whole reason there even is a primary is that Bunning was forced out due to his unpopularity?

Posted by: DDAWD | April 14, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin, the Wasilla monster attacks the zoo keepers...I can't stop laughing at Republicans!

Meanwhile, the economy better not heat up too fast. The whole sustainability thing is the Next Big Question. So far this is only a borrowed recovery.

Republicans should stop predicting disaster on Obama's watch (didn't happen) and start talking about sustainability. They should worry not just about the 47% of Americans who don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. They should worry about the 40% of people who work full time jobs who have no retirement accounts.

Remember Republicans, the people who make you rich are not the same people you somehow get to keep voting for you.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 14, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

What's the name of that fable? Nevermind; its not important. But Grayson is playing the role of the boy at the end of the story.

Will anybody listen to the boy?

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 14, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

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