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The Fix, the "Newshour" and the Massachusetts Senate race

As part of a partnership with PBS's "Newshour" program, we spent some time breaking down the Massachusetts Senate special election and its various and sundry implications for the political world.

Here's that Skype conversation:

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 15, 2010; 5:00 PM ET
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What does Mr. Willis singing "Under the Boardwalk" have to do with Croakley vs. Brown?

Posted by: JakeD | January 16, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Box Red Sox Fans for Democrat Martha Coakley for Senator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2JbRYrmf74

Courting all Independent Voters
Under The Boardwalk - Bruce Willis and the Temptations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKtt5oeKa8w

Vote Democrat 2010!

Posted by: cooday | January 16, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

GOPer Teabagger Scott Brown Not Paying Taxes!


It is an entirely inappropriate avoidance of responsibility by Brown to stiff the gov't on payroll taxes and unemployment compensation contributions. Anyone who has ever employed others knows that there are specific requirements to be considered an independent contractor. With the exception of a contracted consultant, it is very unlikely that anyone other than the highest level staff members would qualify. This isn't about health insurance. It's about tax evasion.


Mass law is one of the TOUGHEST in the country against the practice of misclassifying employees as contractors, far tougher than the federal government . There's no question in my mind that if all of the staffers are being treated as contractors that they are breaking the law.


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/in-ma-sen-race-thats-all-about-health-care-is-goper-brown-providing-coverage-to-staff.php?ref=fpa

Posted by: DrainYou | January 16, 2010 3:53 AM | Report abuse

Won’t take too many more days like today before the last of the good posters bail out.  Bad enough we have the sanctioned trolls, now we have this gaggle of awesomely dumb people posting stuff even more childish than the usual armpeg / leapin / JakeD trolls.  “DEMOCRUDS,” I mean really, who’s going to come her to read that?  Nobody I care to read.  And nobody with an actual functioning mind is going to try to outshout the sort of foghorn posting we get here now.
 
So, butt-kisser and butt-kissee, you’ll probably have your wish pretty soon, all-GOP comments to match the GOP-booster blog entries.  A nasty-triumphal alternate universe where the news is always bad for Democrats and Republicans are always “rising.”  Who cares if it’s true or not?  Just toss out the polls and that don’t match what you prefer to believe, and partay.  How ‘bout that TPaw, huh?  “Love it!!!”
 
Impressions count *so* much more than facts, right, Chris?  And you’ll always be there, yesSIR, ready as Mickey Mouse in Fantasia to carry that water for the Republicans, with no regard to how very bad it would be for the country if those clueless Neanderthals got back into power.  We’ll get rid of that troublesome middle class and put things back like they’re supposed to be, with a few dozen families, all good Republicans, holding all the wealth in the country.
 
One by one the good contributors drop away.  Outshouted, sickened, disgusted, exhausted, leaving only the two-digiteers like Jake and Zouk and the democrap guy.  You guys will have the ideological purity in this eviscerated blog that you’ll never get in the country.
 
What happened to you, Chris?  Did you spend a few weeks doing PCP?  Major head trauma in a motorcycle accident?  Or did Hiatt call you in when they fired Dan Froomkin and tell you to toe the line?  I’d be interested in knowing, mildly anyway, only because I miss the good work you did in 2008.  Haven’t seen a hint of it since, and I’ve given up looking for it.
 
And by the way, if you care, periods and commas go inside quotes and outside parentheses.  The direct object of “he” is “him,” of “who” is “whom.”

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

YOU turn on your TV. I haven't played a potted plant since Reagan's first term.

Why do you post the sane thing over and over? Us writing a post too great an effort for your feeb brain, so you have to extend the mileage by repeating it?

Or IS this blog your whole life? You bedbound?

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler

Go turn on your tv - and everytime you see a commercial repeated go call the company and complain.

Get back to me when you are done with that.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 15, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Any special reason you need to post the same thing in multiple threads? Only you "and" JakeD do that. Are you afraid someone might not read it otherwise? What would be the consequence of that?
Or is it just a cry for attention?

Is this blog your only human interaction?

No idea why that isn't againt the rules, but it should be.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

We will have to see how things develop this year - there is a sense of anger and betrayal at Obama which I have never seen before.


Obama really has over-read his election.


The premise that the democrats were going to pass health care "early" so that everyone would forget it by November is really going to be put to the test this year.

Obama would have been wise to hold off on the health care bill - or to compromise with the Republicans and pass a bill with widespread bipartisan support.


Too many democrats are looking to get some partisan advantage from the health care legislation - they have poisoned it. Obama simply does not understand WHY people voted for him - which is amazing because he was the one giving the speeches.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 15, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I seriously doubt you're reading the liberal press, 37th. Your pointed little head would explode

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how few of the liberals want to say good things about Coakley. She has few defenders, even here.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 15, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

.... he said, responding to one of my posts.

You're a laff riot, Jake

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

No, I think our host's request to ignore your (many) posts is clear enough.

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

"Noacoler and moonbat,

Still don't understand why after being banned multiple times under different names (and IP addresses) you guys keep coming back.

It would seem that moving to some other blog/message board on which to post would make sense since you refuse to follow the rules on this one.

For those regular posters who want to punish these repeat offenders, I would ask you simply ignore their (many) posts.

Since they are committed to end-running our good faith efforts to ban them due to their bad behavior, I think it is our best recourse.

Thanks,
Chris"

Posted by: Chris_Cillizza | January 15, 2010 12:04 AM

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/cook-rothenberg-move-mass-sena.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Lawsuits that will get as far as Oily Tits' lawsuits. Frivolous wastes of time by immature sore losers.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Any version of Obamacare that gets purportedly "signed into law" will have immediate lawsuits filed against varied provisions. Hopefully, at least one of those lawsuits raises the Quo Warranto argument. If anyone ELSE wants to discuss that, let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Well when you watch "Obamacare" passing by 51 votes and you're needing a bedpan and a pacifier to deal with it just think back to ol' "Coach" Hastert shouting down Democrats while you goons smirked.

It's called payback and you better get used to it. You'll have plenty of time.

Palin-Pawlenty 2036

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else wants to discuss the reconciliation process, let me know. Keep in mind that it is a legitimate tool. For instance, Congress used reconciliation to enact President Bill Clinton's 1993 (fiscal year 1994) budget. (See Pub.L. 103-66, 107 Stat. 312.) But, Clinton wanted to use reconciliation to pass his 1993 Hillarycare plan, and Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) insisted that such a healthcare plan was out of bounds for a process that is theoretically limited to budgets. Any Senator will be able to raise a procedural objection to each and every provision believed to be "extraneous" to purely "budgetary" matters.

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Naked Scotty Brown knows all about deficits. If it wasn't for Republican adminstrations from the past 25 years wouldn't have a deficit problem right now.


Republicans Delivered the Worst Decade in Modern U.S. History !


The Republican Party of No and Obstruction, at least where sending any kind of economic lifelines to the American people are concerned, sure had no problem with turning over our national treasury to the fat cats on Wall St. And the GOP's blind faith in a unfettered free market economy did nothing other than make a handful of wealthy folks much richer while the majority of us grew much poorer. The Reagan/Bush/W. Bush's legacies of failure brought this once great nation to its knees.


At least when W. ran his companies into the ground Daddy's friends would step up and bail junior out. But Daddy's buddies are nowhere to be found now that W. and his GOP drove the country straight to hell. Tragically for the American taxpayers, we, our children, our grandchildren and great grandchildren will have to clean up the squalor. It will take generations to undo the GOP's financial carnage.


A recent article published in the Washington Post reveals that the American worker lost big time during the past decade.


This news should come as no surprise to any hard working middle class American. We have been living the pain for 10 long years.


"The past decade was the worst for the U.S. economy in modern times, a sharp reversal from a long period of prosperity that is leading economists and policymakers to fundamentally rethink the underpinnings of the nation's growth. It was, according to a wide range of data, a lost decade for American workers. The decade began in a moment of triumphalism -- there was a current of thought among economists in 1999 that recessions were a thing of the past. By the end, there were two, bookends to a debt-driven expansion that was neither robust nor sustainable."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/01/AR2010010101196.html


The Washington Post also reveals that there has been zero net job creation since December 1999. Conditions have not been this grim for decades. Essentially, the American worker has not had a raise in a very long time.


"Middle-income households made less in 2008, when adjusted for inflation, than they did in 1999 -- and the number is sure to have declined further during a difficult 2009. The Aughts were the first decade of falling median incomes since figures were first compiled in the 1960s."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/01/AR2010010101196.html


It's not surprising that the Republican party would be trying to blame their failures on Pres Obama after only 11 months, they're a bunch of sociopathic losers who aren't exactly known for taking responsibilty for their actions.


Posted by: DrainYou | January 15, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

WhyWEnt shouldn't they? Straight majority vote is how it's supposed to be. Nothing at all venal about that.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

The Dems are threatening to use "reconciliation" again re: Obamacare.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPg2UfFaCh9c&pos=9

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Wiggle it, Jake!

Posted by: Noacoler | January 15, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The Boston Tea Party took place at the corner of Dorchester and Congress.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 15, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

So in the aftermath of worst terror attack in American history, Scott Brown put his right-wing vision of fiscal austerity ahead of helping the nation's recovery efforts. That's pretty much the definition of radical conservativism -- and it reflects the exact opposite of the values that Ted Kennedy fought for his entire life.

Posted by: DrainYou
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Teddy put his left-wing vision ahead of a recovery effort at Chappaquiddick.

Posted by: leapin | January 15, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Please cut him some slack, he has been away for awhile. BTW: that bright light behind your right side has got to go!

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

DrainYou:

Careful with the ad hominem "personal attacks". Since you've been gone, Mr. Cillizza has been banning people for that.

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Why was bleeding heart Coakley lax on the prosecution of that Somerville police officer living in Melrose who raped his 23-month-old niece with a hot object, most likely a curling iron?

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/06/some_saw_coakley_as_lax_on_05_rape_case/

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah JakeD,
I remember when the Bushco Republicans were keeping us safe by ignoring that memo that said:

BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE INSIDE US!


Yeah, you Wingnutters did a "great" job of keeping us safe.....NOT!


Get a life you loser.

Posted by: DrainYou | January 15, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Because it cost too much.

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Why did Teabagger Scott Brown vote against aid to 9/11 recovery workers?


One month after the September 11th attacks, Scott Brown was one of only three Massachusetts State Representatives to vote against a bill to provide financial assistance to Red Cross workers who had volunteered with 9/11 recovery efforts, we’ve learned.
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http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/scott-brown-voted-against-giving-help-to-911-recovery-workers/


So why did Brown vote against 9/11 workers?


The Brown campaign acknowledged the vote to us, claiming the measure would have taxed already-strained state finances.
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http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/scott-brown-voted-against-giving-help-to-911-recovery-workers/


So in the aftermath of worst terror attack in American history, Scott Brown put his right-wing vision of fiscal austerity ahead of helping the nation's recovery efforts. That's pretty much the definition of radical conservativism -- and it reflects the exact opposite of the values that Ted Kennedy fought for his entire life.


Posted by: DrainYou | January 15, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

At least SOMEONE is serious about defending America against terrorists, because Obama sure ain't!!!

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

@Drain: this guy's not going to win. No teabagger is winning in Massachusetts. Let the mythologists punch themselves out on this false narrative.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 15, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Naked Teabagger Scotty Brown endorses Cheney's torture program.


"The Naked Senate Republican Candidate (Scott Brown) (NSC) told reporters yesterday that he endorsed the use of "enhanced interrogation techniques" on terrorism suspects, including waterboarding"
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http://bostonist.com/2010/01/05/naked_senate_candidate_scott_brown.php
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Posted by: DrainYou | January 15, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

GO SCOTT BROWN.

The pollsters simply do not know who is going to show up to the polls - so I have no idea what they are utilizing for the demographic going in.


The last week has been a disaster for Obama - Obama has not been doing well lately.

Obama would be well served to listen to the American people - who he has been ignoring all year.

The American people do not want this version of the health care bill.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 15, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, Chris!!!

Posted by: JakeD | January 15, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

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