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It's Official -- Davis Won't Run

See Chris's new post on this race above.

By Editors  |  October 25, 2007; 10:36 AM ET
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Judging by the fall car ads, horsepower is the sexy new thing, bsimon.

My wife and I are waiting for the new crop of diesels, and we test drove a Saturn Aura with a hybrid engine. It was very pleasant, but my wife thinks 2 engines means double the maintenance. The predicted mpg was not exciting, either.

We each have 6 cyl cars. Hers gets a real 22/30 and mine gets 20/27. We each drive 15k/yr. Our daughter has a conventional small manual tranny 4 cyl that gets 27/36.
She will only drive about 8k/yr.

What I am getting around to is saying that
our only real solution to a huge uptick in fuel price is probably to telecommute three days a week.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 25, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

New US sanctions against Iran helped push the price of oil over $90/barrel. The financial markets are full of rumors that the fed will lower the benchmark interest rate again next month, which could further weaken the dollar. A weaker dollar will drive oil prices up more.

Is $100 barrel the nightmare its made out to be, or will US consumers shrug & fill 'er up anyway?

Posted by: bsimon | October 25, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Taking bsimon's invitation to post off thread, this is for USMC_Mike:

I think I see 4 Dem sub-categories and 5 Rep sub-categories, according to their
pet issues.
1. FDR big gov social initiative "liberals", for whom Ted Kennedy still speaks.
2. The DLC - inspired by Bill Clinton. They are pronounced internationalists and free traders.
3. The "blue dogs". They may be all over the lot on other issues, but they are strong for the military and vets. Sen. Webb could fill the vacancy in leadership left by Breaux, Nunn. They have a caucus of @30 in the House.
4. The populists. Anti free trade protectionism binds them. Pro-union. I do not know who speaks most authoritatively for them. Dean? Edwards?
1. Big gov big biz globalist free traders. John Connally was the first avowed member but now it is very strong in the party. I do not know who speaks most authoritatively for them. Giuliani might take this role? Cheney thinks GWB is one.
2. Military Reps - like Blue Dog Dems, they are strong for the military and vets, first. Powell is the conscience, but McCain, Warner, and Graham are the leaders. Zinni. Generally support civil liberties and believe in a nation of laws.
3. Neo-cons - a leadership cadre of mainly former Wilsonian liberals whose dream is the liberation of the world while the USA remains dominant. They are relatively new to the Rep [thus "neo" con] Party and have confused it to the point that it cannot develop a coherent foreign policy in this Administration. Is Richard Perle the spokesman? Paul Wolfowitz? Pres. Bush?
4. Social Conservatives - god, gays, abortion - Huckabee could become their most compelling voice as he also believes that life does not end at birth and that stewardship of the planet is a Christian virtue.
5. Small gov small biz social moderates - Main Street Reps - Lugar, Hagel; perhaps Schwarzenegger; Voinovich and Grassley? Can be anti free trade like populist Dems, but unlike Ds, are anti-union. Historically, were isolationist; now not so much, but wary of interventionism.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 25, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

dctoast writes
"Just because Bush drove us into the ground does not mean that all republicans are bad, which seem's to be what is driving the polls at this point."

Fear not, dctoast. The Newt is preparing to be the leader of a reborn Republican party following the 2008 elections. Extensive short term losses are just the medicine the Republican party needs in order to return to their roots. The likely Dem sweep will set them up for a similar, if not more rapid, fall from grace.

Posted by: bsimon | October 25, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I hereby declare this thread as open-season for any topic, since Chris has made it redundant with the Redux post. Rufus, please note the new thread, to which there is a link above. To the thoughtful off-topic posters, this thread is OPEN!

Posted by: bsimon | October 25, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Tom Davis is a good guy, we need more people like him in politics.. Now that he is out, we need to turn to Mark Warner and see what his plans are for those of us who live in Virginia and to see if that is what we really want.. What we don't need is an election where the canidate is determined by his political party, Just because Bush drove us into the ground does not mean that all republicans are bad, which seem's to be what is driving the polls at this point. I hope that for my childs sake that people like Tom Davis, and Mark Warner stay in the race and try to fix what what our generation has so badly botched. We are a generation of failure. Now let's try to get back on track and elect politicians who are going to make this world a better place for our kids.

Posted by: dctoast | October 25, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

""Obama: Gore to be 'involved in our administration in a very senior capacity'... ""

Whooa. Obama is starting to step up. yesterday has said he will not sign on to the federal crimes of this administration. He will not sign on to a bill that allows for retroactive imunity on telecoms. Yeah. How do you hurt people who only care about money? Also, this was and still is a federal crime. Bush and gonzales and whoever else was involved should be gettign jail time for this. I'm glad Obama is not legalizing that. Still waiting for clinotn. Biden is with US.

On the gore statement. Good for Obama. Gore WILL endorse Obama. The Man is not gone yet. Now if he would just get on the right side of immagration he would be unbeatable. He would go right past clinton.

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

"This is hardly the first time this has happened. After right-wing blogs loudly complained for months about the supposedly Terrorist-sympathizing journalism of Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein in Iraq, the U.S. military in Iraq detained him with no charges (and, just by the way, continues to detain him for a year-and-a-half now with no charges). While the military refused to talk to A.P. or any other press outlets about its photojournalist, they leaked the story of his detention to Michelle Malkin -- one of the principal agitators who had spent months calling Hussein a Terrorist-lover and calling for his arrest -- and then, with her military-delivered scoop, she excitedly announced his detention.

Gen. David G. Petraeus is the Most Honorable Man ever to live. Saying otherwise merits formal condemnation by the U.S. Congress. But perhaps someone writing endlessly about the gossipy, catty parts of this story -- such as "media critic" Howard Kurtz -- might want to examine the fact that the behavior of our "apolitical military" in Iraq is becoming indistinguishable from every other arm of the Bush/Cheney right-wing noise machine. The overt politicization of our military in Iraq -- working closely and in secret only with Drudge, The Weekly Standard and right-wing blogs -- seems at least as important as the monumental issue of what Franklin Foer knew and when he knew it.

-- Glenn Greenwald

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"I look forward to reading your response. I guess I'll have to wait until the next post, when you make your one allowed comment."

Well done, Blarg.

Posted by: judgeccrater | October 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"As the Beauchamp/TNR "story" demonstrates, the U.S. military is using the standard GOP/right-wing model for trying to shape the news in politically beneficial ways -- feeding supposedly secret and classified documents to Matt Drudge; using The Weekly Standard as its primary propaganda outlet, and working hand-in-hand with their apparent comrades in the most extremist precincts of the right-wing blogosphere. From the beginning, the U.S. military has refused to answer questions from the press, cut off The New Republic, cited classified and secrecy doctrines to suppress information, and all the while, worked secretly through selective leaks and back-channels with the most rabid right-wing partisans to shape the story in the most politicized way possible. Doesn't that merit at least some commentary? "

Glenn Greenwald

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"The growing link between the U.S. military and right-wing media and blogs
I realize there is nothing more important to the American Republic than Franklin Foer's editorial judgment in the Scott Beauchamp matter. But there is a secondary issue in this story that is being ignored -- how the U.S. military, like everything else, is becoming rapidly politicized, fully incorporated into and following the model of the Republican right-wing noise machine.

Throughout this year, the U.S. military in Iraq has become staffed with pure Republican political hacks -- including long-time Bush/Cheney P.R. hack Steve Schmidt and former White House aide Gen. Kevin Bergner. These are the most partisan and politically-motivated people around shaping U.S. military conduct. And it shows, as the Army's behavior in the Beauchamp case is exactly what one would expect from an increasingly politicized, Republican-controlled division of the right-wing noise machine.

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

fascists. do what you will. make any exuses you must to justify you fascism. it is the gop way. I may be forced to post all day, if it's going to be "silence the internet day."

You know I won't let the fascists win. you know I won't let you silence the internet. you can't win. It's impossible. think about your arguements for a second. Only the right has free speech? How do you justify your double think? THe gop is done. I'm not feeling to good today. Please don't play games today. Post your posts. No one is stopping you. If you are a propogandist and scared to be called on it, go elsewhere. Easy fix for the coward fascists. The cowards who like to attack children and indoctrinate the children. Not on my watch. Not while I'm still alive and kicking. You cannot silence the internet gop. You see cc, give then an ince they take a foot. CAve into the bullies once and now they think they can make all the rules on your blog. Eventually there would be no blog.

Freedom is better than slavery cc. don't become a slave to them. Give and inch they take a mile. They are fascists. Tehy will never be satisfied. Until only they can speak and the left are silenced. They will never be happy until everyone in the world are ronald reagan clones. To give in to them only emboldens them,cc. Stop caving in to the fascist bullies.

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Jim, what do you think the purpose of this site is? Your rule would eliminate any possibility of discussion, whether on-topic or off-topic. If you aren't going to allow people to actually discuss the article, there's no point in even having a comments section.

I look forward to reading your response. I guess I'll have to wait until the next post, when you make your one allowed comment.

Posted by: Blarg | October 25, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I hope that the optimism about Mark Warner and about Gilmore's slim chances proves crrect. It would give me confidence that the growing wisdom of Virginians in the past few years (electing M. Warner, T. Kaine and J. Webb) is here to stay. Btw, although I am reluctant to sign on to the one-comment-per-poster approach, it is precisely the sort of redundant drivel posted by RUFUS11 et al that makes such a suggestion plausible.

Posted by: conleyma | October 25, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"Davis "said this morning that he will not make a run for the U.S. Senate next year, in part because of what he sees as the Republican Party's increasingly narrow focus on candidates who pass conservative litmus tests on taxes and abortion."

Wow, for an R that's both brutally honest and heretical at the same time! Wouldn't it be nice if that opinion was contagious? I don't know the man at all but my estimate is that his character is considerably stronger than most of the R candidates for POTUS. The subtext, that nobody can beat Mark Warner, goes without saying.

Posted by: judgeccrater | October 25, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Eventually, the Republican Party (and even the RPV) will have to track back to the center and the median voter with candidates like Davis if they want to win elections. But it might take a few hard "thumpins" for that to sink in, and in the meantime the purists are pummeling the pragmatists.

Still think we should be pushing the rumor that Pat Buchanan will challenge Gilmore for the nomination. Just think how exciting that could be. Run, Pat, run!

And CC should limit the comments threads to one complaint post per IP address about how chatty hijacked comments threads can be.

Posted by: novamatt | October 25, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

One entry per blog. You people are wackos. What are you scared of? I know you hide from truth and love propoganda. This is getting ridiculous. See what I was saying CC? these people don't want to blog and get to the heart of matters. They want to propogate. They want to lie. They don't want anyone to call them on it. Cowards. The gop is done. No amount of silencing the internet or paying off ews companies will save your party. We are not a nation of dittoheads. We are free. only dittoheads and the elderly buy the gop's fascist garbage. Normal americans see you for what you are. the american people will not stand idolly by like the germans in 30's germany. This time we nip the fascism in the bud before it's to late. You lost Jim. Your party is done for 30 years. Stopping people from speaking will not save you, though it is your only hope. This is america.

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Might as well give Warner the seat now. Gilmore represents the old republicans when the state is clearly starting to shift. Not to mention he made a joke of himself running for president, and broke the state trying to remove the car tax

Posted by: riff_raff17 | October 25, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse


One entry per blog? Wow. What ar eyou scared of. I know you republcians hate freedom. CC already set teh blog up for registration, for pete's sake. Let people breath. Frickin republcains these days. Your way or the highway. Why? In the marketplace of ideas, you need a monopoly to compeate. You must make imaginary rules to have the smallest of chances. It doesn't work that way. This is america. We WERE a free nation. We get our coutnry back from the fascists 08

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

"Obama: Gore to be 'involved in our administration in a very senior capacity'... "

Posted by: RUFUS11_33 | October 25, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

CC, Please limit the comment section to one comment per IP address per story. The comment section in each story you write is hijacked by around 5 to 7 users who take over the comments section with an ongoing discussion that degenerates into a chat room. In each of your articles, I usually see a few attempts at the beginning for people interested in politics to respond to your particular story and then the ongoing chat takes over with these people who are using the large following of your column to get their remarks and discussions read by a wide audience. When an interested reader goes to the comments section and see that instead of intelligent (or even stupid) reactions to your column they have entered a closed world of a few who are having a long running conversation that extends from Fix column to Fix column, the reader rightly infers that his/her comment will be lost in the ongoing insular discussion. These regular posters would still be able to post a comment on each article. I'm sure they'll call me names and you too if you go ahead with this, but it's your blog and the comments should be helpful to you in terms of feedback, and to the readers trying to see if there are other opinions that enhance or undermine your position, not a quasi-blog for those who can't get an audience otherwise.

Posted by: JimSheridan | October 25, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

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