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Veepstakes: Process of Elimination

UPDATE, 11:20 p.m. ET: A report by ABC News that Secret Service agents had been dispatched to Biden's home to begin protecting the Delaware Senator seems to affirm the sense that Biden would be the pick.

ORIGINAL POST

Slowly but surely the identity of Barack Obama's vice presidential nominee is coming into focus. That is, we may not know who the pick is but we know who it isn't.

Neither Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh nor Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine will be the number two man for Obama, according to the Associated Press. Both men were considered finalists for the job -- numbers two and three on The Fix's latest Veepstakes Line.

Earlier in the night, CNN's Jessica Yellin reported that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) was officially out of the running to be Obama's vice president. That report came after Politico's Mike Allen noted in a piece earlier in the day that Clinton had never been vetted by Obama.

With Bayh, Kaine and Clinton seemingly out of the picture, talk over the next few hours (if there is talk that late!) will center on Sens. Joe Biden (#1 on the Fix's Line) and Jack Reed (#5).

The chatter is now that Obama's much-vaunted text message announcing the pick won't come until tomorrow morning -- a likely scenario given that it is approaching midnight on the east coast.

Biden must now be considered the strong favorite for the job given the seeming eliminations of his top two competitors for the job. Of course, the veepstakes is entirely unpredictable so until we get that text message, nothing is certain.

By Chris Cillizza  |  August 22, 2008; 10:50 PM ET
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OBAMA BIN BIDEN 08

This really sounds like a winning ticket - now which state were they supposed to carry?


.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

What would you think if I picked Diane Feinstein? Now there's an idea.

...And send $10 to my half brother, please.

Posted by: B.O. | August 23, 2008 6:48 AM | Report abuse

Well at least the Hillary-Or-No-Woman-Ever nutters can rest easy, Obama didn't pick McCaskill or Sebelius.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe all of the obviously McCain backers or Obama haters (is there a difference?) are so interested in who will be the Democrat VP candidate that they have stayed up late to read this late-nite "The Fix" and slam the probable pick as quickly as they can.

I doubt seriously that even those who say they "were" for Obama but not if he picks Biden are telling the truth about which side they are on. Biden must be a great pick judging by the rapidity and silliness of the anti-Biden comments by you whose comments show what you really are.

And, did anyone really believe that Gen Clark ever was a serious contender? He seems to be a good man but a real lightweight at this level. Biden is not perfect but does seem to be EASILY the best all-around choice of the entire bunch.

Posted by: Byron | August 23, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

At least Biden is good at trash talk, which Obama is obviously unwilling to partake in no matter what McCain says.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Will Obama really pick Biden, or could it actually be Chet Edwards? Both have national security bona-fides, but the liberal left brought Obama to the dance...and they prefer Chet Edwards as the VP. The text messege should be interesting & surprising if the pick is Edwards!

Posted by: reason | August 23, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad it's not Kaine. He seems like a nice guy, but with a name like that . . . He's clearly descended from the original murderer.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

At least Biden was accepted to law school. Bush was rejected and McCain's no Einstein. He finished in the bottom of his class. I'll take the Harvard lawyer.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden may be a decent guy by some standards. However, I cannot forgive him that twenty years ago or so he did not hesitate attempting to make up his college resumé. Joe Average would certainly be marked — deservedly — for his whole life for doing it, but SENATOR Joe Biden would be "honored" for the same "youthful indiscretion" by vice-presidency of the U.S.. This is our democratic America, and even a realization of a kind of an American dream, is it not? Most of us could only dream of such forgiveness. Small liars must pay for a life if caught, big liars must be rewarded. This is why our 'correctional facilities' are overcrowded by unskilled liars, and most of our political leaders are corrupt or morally rotten, and sitting in safe positions. Congratulations, Democratic Party! If this Biden game is true, you would certainly save me gasoline by not even considering to drive to the polling place. This makes the elections greener two-fold: (1) saving gas and reducing air pollution; and (2) saving green bucks, too.

Posted by: Bekaku | August 23, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

rtfanning--

McCain's accomplishments:

Crashed 5 planes

Cheated on his wife

Took bribes from Charles Keating

Votes against veterans

Old and Senile

Is a REAL elitist who doesn't even know how many homes he owns

I'll take Obama any day of the week.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Would You Hire Barack Obama?


For what?

Positives: He is pretty. He can read well.

Negatives: No experience. No accomplishments. Lacks common sense. Lacks basic morality. Basically ignorant in many areas. Cannot think on his feet. Poor choice of friends.

No. I don't anything he could do. Maybe he could be a tour guide to take high school kids through the plant.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/452yoxdo.asp?pg=2

Posted by: rtfanning | August 23, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Whenever McCain accuses Obama of using bad judgement, he needs to have the Keating 5 thrown in his face. He can't hide behind his veteran status on that one.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:31 AM

YES
HE
CAN!


He's like Giuliani but with less humility.

Posted by: Aleks | August 23, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Obama will lose whoever he picks for V.P.

Posted by: Toby | August 23, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Governor or Senator, it doesn't really matter. Bush has screwed this country over so bad ANYONE could do a better job...except maybe John McAncient.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Cindy McCain has always said she was an only child and now it's discovered she has multiple half-sisters and brothers who live near poverty and she refuses to help out. You're going to see a LOT of dirt on Cindy McCain in the coming weeks.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:50 AM | Report abuse

"A ticket with two senators....ugh."

Agreed. I really was hoping for a Governor as the VP.

Posted by: DDAWD | August 23, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

McCain is the xerox of George Bush. There is no change with McCain. He put the word 'change' into his campaign for about 5 seconds and realized it was yet something else he had ripped off. Now he'll take whatever Obama says and trys to rework it to make it sound like he came up with it. His story about the cross in the dirt at the prison camp has been debunked and he knows he can't claim to be a champion of the working class because he's had a privileged life. He claims he gets high ratings from veteran's groups when he really gets low ratings. The military supports Obama 6-1. Veterans can't stand him!

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Just keep on waiting for the text message, folks. And send $10 to my half-brother, please.

Posted by: B.O. | August 23, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY

You'll see what McCain really looks like in public. He's just a rambling, confused, old fool.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA and Biden CHANGE THAT YOU CAN XEROX.

Posted by: bpower | August 23, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Whenever McCain accuses Obama of using bad judgement, he needs to have the Keating 5 thrown in his face. He can't hide behind his veteran status on that one.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Jay Rockefeller as VP!

Justifications:

-He was cited on the 15th as a speaker on Tuesdays DNC convention, but on the AP wires today his name does not show up (hmmmm...)

-Jay's wife is resting from cancer treatment that she had on the 5th, hence the delay in announcing- Obama was going to announce on Monday

-Jay has fully supported Obama since Feb 29th *A LUCKY DAY*

-Jay is of the JFK democratic spectrum ideals, the same type as Obama

-Jay compensates for all of the international relations, old tradional values, and CIA intelligence that Obama is weaker in

-Jay has hosted more than 3 dinners at his personal house for Obama, they KNOW-KNOW each other

-Jay will further the excitement for the ticket!!!!

A ROCKEFELLER on a Presidential ticket with experience beyond McCains?!


its Rockefeller.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Great. The only thing the American public finds more tiresome than George Bush is Congress. So let's go THERE for the VP.

This stinks of an overreaction to the whole "confidence to be Commander in Chief" thing. It means they've given up winning on that score head to head.

The only thing I can see out of this, and Biden hardly strikes me as the type to play this role, is to have someone who has been at McCain's side for the last 25 years calling him out on everything.

So, if he's on board to take down McCain, great. If he's on board to provide "gravitas," then this is a disaster.

Posted by: Dave | August 23, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Simple:

check youtube for 'Obama making fun of Bible'

everytime it gets taken down someone puts up another one

Posted by: InTheKnow | August 23, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Remember! Gen. Clark IS a Rhodes Scholar! In all seriousness, (as much as I can muster at the moment!) Gen. Clark is not really a bad choice for a running mate, I'd say! But another SENATOR? WHAT, ARE YOU ALL JOKING?

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 23, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Is John McCain a Crook?

In early 1987, at the beginning of his first Senate term, McCain attended two meetings with federal banking regulators to discuss an investigation into Lincoln Savings and Loan, an Irvine, Calif., thrift owned by Arizona developer Charles Keating. Federal auditors were investigating Keating's banking practices, and Keating, fearful that the government would seize his S&L, sought intervention from a number of U.S. senators.

At Keating's behest, four senators--McCain and Democrats Dennis DeConcini of Arizona, Alan Cranston of California, and John Glenn of Ohio--met with Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, on April 2. Those four senators and Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich., attended a second meeting at Keating's behest on April 9 with bank regulators in San Francisco.

Regulators did not seize Lincoln Savings and Loan until two years later. The Lincoln bailout cost taxpayers $2.6 billion, making it the biggest of the S&L scandals. In addition, 17,000 Lincoln investors lost $190 million.

In November 1990, the Senate Ethics Committee launched an investigation into the meetings between the senators and the regulators. McCain, Cranston, DeConcini, Glenn, and Riegle became known as the Keating Five.

(Keating himself was convicted in January 1993 of 73 counts of wire and bankruptcy fraud and served more than four years in prison before his conviction was overturned. Last year, he pleaded guilty to four counts of fraud and was sentenced to time served.)

McCain defended his attendance at the meetings by saying Keating was a constituent and that Keating's development company, American Continental Corporation, was a major Arizona employer. McCain said he wanted to know only whether Keating was being treated fairly and that he had not tried to influence the regulators. At the second meeting, McCain told the regulators, "I wouldn't want any special favors for them," and "I don't want any part of our conversation to be improper."

But Keating was more than a constituent to McCain--he was a longtime friend and associate. McCain met Keating in 1981 at a Navy League dinner in Arizona where McCain was the speaker. Keating was a former naval aviator himself, and the two men became friends. Keating raised money for McCain's two congressional campaigns in 1982 and 1984, and for McCain's 1986 Senate bid. By 1987, McCain campaigns had received $112,000 from Keating, his relatives, and his employees--the most received by any of the Keating Five. (Keating raised a total of $300,000 for the five senators.)

After McCain's election to the House in 1982, he and his family made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, three of which were to Keating's Bahamas retreat. McCain did not disclose the trips (as he was required to under House rules) until the scandal broke in 1989. At that point, he paid Keating $13,433 for the flights.

And in April 1986, one year before the meeting with the regulators, McCain's wife, Cindy, and her father invested $359,100 in a Keating strip mall.

The Senate Ethics Committee probe of the Keating Five began in November 1990, and committee Special Counsel Robert Bennett recommended that McCain and Glenn be dropped from the investigation. They were not. McCain believes Democrats on the committee blocked Bennett's recommendation because he was the lone Keating Five Republican.

In February 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee found McCain and Glenn to be the least blameworthy of the five senators. (McCain and Glenn attended the meetings but did nothing else to influence the regulators.) McCain was guilty of nothing more than "poor judgment," the committee said, and declared his actions were not "improper nor attended with gross negligence." McCain considered the committee's judgment to be "full exoneration," and he contributed $112,000 (the amount raised for him by Keating) to the U.S. Treasury.

Next question?

http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/

Posted by: Scott | August 23, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

I just love all the 'pubs posting: "I was going to vote for Obama, but not now if he puts Biden on the ticket!"

Can we be just A LITTLE more original?

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Biden FTW

Posted by: Geoffrey | August 23, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA NEEDS A MILITARY MAN-BADLY! BUT THAT'S STILL NOT GOING TO HELP HIM.

HEY, WAIT A MINUTE-NOW I DO LIKE GEN. WESLEY CLARK-I SUPPORTED HIS CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT BACK IN THE DAY-IS HE BEING GUARDED BY THE SECRET SERVICE YET? HA HA HA!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 23, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Spring rain-

Ever get to the South much? Or the Mid-West? There's a reason they call it The
Bible Belt.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember, about 10-12 years ago I think, when it was learned that Biden had misrepresented his law school transcripts, claiming to have had a GPA higher than he had actually recieved? I do. I thought the world of Obama. But if he picks Biden, I'm out. Biden cannot be trusted and has no credibility in my book.

Posted by: A.K. | August 23, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

For all those that mention Biden as plagiarist that was back when John McCain was working for the Savings and Loans in the Keating 5 scandal. John McCain is owned by big money.

Bring on the plagiarist charge, it gives more reason to bring up what McCain was doing at the time pandering for failed Savings and Loans in the Keating 5 scandal. Love to talk about McCain's scandals.

Posted by: Scott | August 23, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama + Jay Rockefeller = jOy

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Bill-contrary to what YOU want to believe, the vast majority of Americans DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT.

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 23, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Spring Rain - hold your laughter until election day.

Posted by: Justin | August 23, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Jay Rockefeller > biden

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Obama = Tepid
Obama + Biden = Cold
Obama chooses Biden, he loses my vote

Posted by: yawning | August 23, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm just Biden my time, so I Kaine write in Hillary's name on the ballot. Bayh, Bayh.

Posted by: clemskids | August 23, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

The fact the a lot of right wingers are saying Biden's a horrible choice really means exactly the opposite. They're worried about the foreign policy creditials and tough talking Biden brings with him. McCain's only logical choice now is Romney and he's not exactly embraced by the Christian right. Pawlenty, the only other prolifer available, is a social liberal that won't fly with the republicans. Romney brings the economic experience, but he knows you have to bring in revenue to pay bills and McCain has promised not to tax big oil of the rich. You can't have it both ways.

Posted by: Bill | August 23, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

you read it here first:

Sibelius!

Posted by: jayheg | August 23, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama=lukewarm
Obama+Biden=chilly
Net result: Obama chooses Biden, he loses my vote

Posted by: logicmagic | August 23, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

You're right, Mr. A-Joe Biden IS a blowhard, which covers up his lack of insight about foreign affairs-he's actually a real lightweight when it comes to foreign policy, much as he wants you to think to the contrary! He frequently gets it wrong-frequently. But for the tiny state of Delaware, as their Senator, he'll continue to do just fine!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 23, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I'm just hoping y'all will send $10 to my half-brother living in a shack. I don't want to be bothered by the inconveniece of it, so we should all together help him out.

Posted by: B.O. | August 23, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a "socialist Muslim"? Some of you wacko right-wingers really are pretty out there. If you really believe that you are too stupid to be allowed to vote.

Of course, if stupidity really made you ineligible we would never have had another four years of Bush (hmmm...I guess it makes sense for you to be represented by a stupid man).

Biden is a solid pick. The man knows foreign policy backward and forward, and I like what I've heard him say on energy policy. He brings experience and say what he thinks (hopefully this won't get him in trouble).

Posted by: Smarter Than You, Fool | August 23, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

@ spring rain - getting scared?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party is extremely misguided - they are deceiving themselves into believing that they can make up for history by voting for Obama - what a joke.

The democrats want to nominate a black so badly - Jim Crow happened, slavery happened - voting for an underqualified cocaine snorting empty suit slimy fish Obama is not going to help race relations.

If ANYTHING, Obama's campaign tactics have HURT RACE RELATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY.

Obama is not even a descendent of slaves.

Obama is simply trading off the REAL SLAVE DESCENDENTS - Obama comes from a BLACK MUSLIM SOCIALIST FAMILY.


The Democratic Party is jumping and gushing at Obama who has no experience in running anything not even a dog catching department and no economic experience except for buying cocaine -


Can anyone please explain this CLEAR DELUSION?


The democrats have not noticed yet that Obama is a Black Muslim whose father was a Socialist and Obama is probably a great deal closer to being a Socialist himself than most people imagine.

.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Please, trolls, stop posting ad hominem attacks. (Look it up if you need to). If you disagree with Obama or McCain's policies please state it and why, or else quit wasting our time. I want our next president to be chosen on his cred, not because he scared you into voting for him.

Posted by: Jon | August 23, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Biden is a relatively good choice- he compliments Obama because his strengths (foreign policy, legislative experience, genuine, from working class PA) are opposite Obama's weaknesses (no relevent experience or legislative record, disingenuous, aloof, from HA) and his weaknesses (poor at rhetoric, anticharismatic often, prone to slip ups) are opposite Obama's strengths (all rhetoric, total charisma, disciplined to not slip up- in fact able to dismiss allegations that would end other candidacies)

Leon

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

All people posting saying they are "dems" and would vote for obama unless his vp is biden" are clearly not democrats. Oh nose Biden talks for a long time because he knows the issues...what a horrible person.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Please be Jay Rockefeller: he will bring THE VOTE. New promise and hope politics matched with old traditional experienced politics. My God. That is the ticket that can't be beat! If Clinton didnt run in 2002, Jay would have... and would have won! Peace Core, Harvard, seasoned democrat since 1966, head of Intelligence Committee/Terrorist/International buff, AND his family is the coal industry. The coal industry is what is going to bring us out of this recession with China's growth and requirements for steel. Rockefeller was a avid pedawan of JFK in the 60s, what a better way to start 2009 than with master Rockefeller sculpting the image he supports.

AHHH! I want my text message!

Posted by: CL | August 23, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Umm. Having not drank the koolaid: Who Cares!?!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

If it is Biden, I truly cant wait for the VP debate.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is a great guy,
I always admired him.
He would be a good choice.
I think many still feel
their might be better choices?
Gephardt,Gore,Kerry,McCaskill,
to name a few.Clinton is not one for me.

Posted by: Pennsylvania Born | August 23, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is a great choice. Seems to me McSame supporters are getting a little scared.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

TOO BAD DEMS. DON'T HAVE MITT ROMNEY -I'M VOTING FOR MCCAIN, AS A DEM. SOLELY BECAUSE OF MITT ROMNEY-THIS MAN IS BRILLIANT, AND HE HAS HUGE POLITICAL AND BUSINESS ACUMEN AND EXPERIENCE-WHERE HAS HE BEEN ALL THIS TIME, HUH? I WANT HIM TO BE PRESIDENT IN FOUR YEARS! WE'LL GET 4 YEARS TO GET TO KNOW HIM-BECAUSE MCCAIN IS STRICTLY A ONE TERM PRESIDENT!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 23, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

What ever happened to not going with a story unless you had two confirming sources?

Betting here is that this is another trial balloon and the gullible media, including our boy CC, is just being played once again...

Posted by: Old School Journo | August 22, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Biden is a great fighter! That mouth of his will be slamming McCain-Romney in the coming weeks. He will trounce Romney in a debate too.

Biden gives iffy white voters that extra security blanket to vote for Obama.

Posted by: JC | August 22, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Let me put this as succinctly as I can: JOE BIDEN WOULD BE AN UNQUALIFIED DISASTER FOR OBAMA, BUT I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING; ERIC HOLDER AND CAROLINE KENNEDY ARE ON THE VETTING COMMITTEE-OOPS! ALL BETS ARE OFF! MY GUESS IS THAT THEY WILL CHOOSE SOMEBODY AS OFF THE WALL AS THEY ARE (WELL, ERIC IS OKAY, A NICE GUY, BUT CAROLINE? SHE'S LIVED THIS RAREFIED IVORY TOWER EXCLUSIVE EXISTENCE HER WHOLE LIFE-SHE DOESN'T KNOW CRAP ABOUT WHAT "REAL PEOPLE" GO THROUGH IN LIFE-AND SHE, RATHER LIKE OBAMA, HAS NEVER EVEN HELD A JOB IN HER ENTIRE LIFE-YEAH, A REAL GOOD CHOICE TO VET THE VP CANDIDATE-SHE!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Biden is a blowhard, who can't ask a question without spending 25 minutes talking. I have never seen anyone so impressed with the sound of their own voice. I was going to vote for Obama-but if he picks Biden-no way.

Posted by: mr a | August 22, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Now I'm worried. McCain leads Obama in houses 10 to 1. If McCain picks Romney that brings the GOP presidential house total to 13. Looks like Obama's only hope now is to pick Oprah or Donald Trump. Just like a Democrat to be so far behind in what counts.

Posted by: Countdown | August 22, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

It's Delaware's U. S. Senator Joe Biden. All indications point to him!

http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/08/breaking-news-unofficially-barack.html#links

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | August 22, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Remember the Place Holder Theory...

And vote HILLARY.

Then it will all be "a storybook, man!"

Posted by: "Clean and articulate" | August 22, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

If it is indeed Biden, this would be the most intelligent pick Obama could have made. The reassurance factor matters A LOT to Democrats who were lukewarm about Obama to begin with. After all, a lot of these Democrats were torn between Biden, Dodd, and Richardson during the primaries. After they dropped out, Clinton probably got most of their votes even if they didn't like her so much. But if Biden is on the bottom half of the ticket, I think they'll feel a lot more comfortable (and perhaps enthusiastic) about Obama's candidacy.

http://www.theseventen.com

Posted by: theseventen | August 22, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey! Maybe Obama can impress us by getting on an army tank and putting on a helmet? What do you think?

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

oh, please! My stomach is cramping with laughter!-GOOD ONE! DUKAKIS/BENTSEN-OH THAT'S PERFECT-THAT'S OBAMA/BIDEN ALL RIGHT!

OH THAT WAS A GOOD LAUGH!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama/Biden reminds me of Dukakis/Bentsen.

Posted by: Justin | August 22, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

A. I'm not an Obama supporter, just a political fanatic who is following the election process closely.
B. I don't know who would be SO MUCH BETTER than Joe Biden.
C. I went to a Biden campaign appearance last year (as a reporter) and was thoroughly impressed. He's quick on his feet, knowledgeable, witty and not afraid to call a spade a spade when he sees something that should not be. Plus, he's been in Washington for 30+ years and he knows where all the skeletons are buried.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Hard core Dems will be mesmerized by another phony blowhard on their ticket with Joe Biden. Really gotta wonder about the judgement of the Chimp now. Such a blowhard might be for making the BS case for invading Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, as MoveOn.org has been imploring liberals to do, but after beating the drums to go to war against Iraq for a dozen years then advocating surrender I can't imagine the plagarizing liar gaining Obama anything.

Posted by: rpatoh | August 22, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow this anonymous is so crazy.

Posted by: Hmmm | August 22, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

OH PLEASE! BIDEN IS STRICTLY ONE-NOTE-CONGRESS IS ALL HE HAS, ALL HE EVER HAD-AND HE'S NOT REALLY ALL THAT SWIFT ON FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES EITHER-I'M SORRY TO SAY!

BUT YOU KIDDIES THINK WHAT YOU LIKE-YOU'LL SEE!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party is extremely misguided - they are deceiving themselves into believing that they can make up for history by voting for Obama - what a joke.

The democrats want to nominate a black so badly - Jim Crow happened, slavery happened - voting for an underqualified cocaine snorting empty suit slimy fish Obama is not going to help race relations.

If ANYTHING, Obama's campaign tactics have HURT RACE RELATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY.

Obama is not even a descendent of slaves.

Obama is simply trading off the REAL SLAVE DESCENDENTS - Obama comes from a BLACK MUSLIM SOCIALIST FAMILY.


The Democratic Party is jumping and gushing at Obama who has no experience in running anything not even a dog catching department and no economic experience except for buying cocaine -


Can anyone please explain this CLEAR DELUSION?


The democrats have not noticed yet that Obama is a Black Muslim whose father was a Socialist and Obama is probably a great deal closer to being a Socialist himself than most people imagine.

.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

What is Biden's issue? He talks too much? Big deal, he's a politician so of course he talks too much. Nobody has ever even seen Jack Reed unless they closely follow national news, he's about as anonymous as they come. Biden is overqualified to be the vice president, not that Reed isn't but Biden is a much better choice in my opinion.

Posted by: Oh Please | August 22, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I agree Todd, that's EXACTLY what Obama is looking for-someone to do the job for him, so he can keep to his own schedule, and give his famous empowerment SPEECHES-oh, that would get old REAL QUICK! THOSE DAMN LECTURES OF HIS WHERE HE'S TRYING TO LEAD US TO THE LIGHT! PUH-LEEZE-IT MAKES ME LAUGH!

BIDEN WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER FOR OBAMA! OH, THAT MAKES ME LAUGH-BIDEN HELPING OBAMA-YOU ALL REALLY HAVE NO POLITICAL SENSE OF THINGS, DO YOU?

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

BIDEN FOR REAL... OR A "PLACE HOLDER"?

Go over to ABC News.com and read Jake Tapper's blog...

This has got to be a trial balloon. Obama's people can read...

If this happens, remember the veepstakes "Place Holder Theory." Perhaps Obama's VP pick will turn out to be a "place holder" for the REAL VP pick, who will be...

Barack Obama... chosen by:

Hillary Clinton. Or Al Gore.

Read that ABC News blog, think about the above, and tell me where I'm wrong.

Posted by: Outside the Box | August 22, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

What would be hilarious is if Obama-Biden faced the same fate as Gore-Lieberman did in 2000 - the election goes to a recount and then all the way to the Supreme Court, and then Clarence Thomas gets to cast the deciding vote against Biden - the guy who smeared him - becoming VP. I wouldn't be able to stop laughing if that happened. Biden deserves it.

Posted by: Sandy | August 22, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

The democrats have so much white guilt - they are deceiving themselves into believing that they can make up for history by voting for Obama - what a joke.

they want to nominate a black so badly - Jim Crow happened, slavery happened - voting for an underqualified cocaine snorting empty suite slimy fish Obama is not going to help race relations.

If ANYTHING, Obama's campaign tactics have HURT RACE RELATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY.

Obama is not even a descendent of slaves.

Obama is simply trading off the REAL SLAVE DESCENDENTS - Obama comes from a BLACK MUSLIM SOCIALIST FAMILY.

The democratic party has jumped at Obama who has no experience in running anything not even a dog catching department and no economic experience except for buying cocaine -


AND the democrats have not noticed yet that Obama is a Black Muslim whose father was a Socialist and Obama is probably a great deal closer to being a Socialist himself than most people imagine.


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Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Excuse, me, I meant RI, not NH!-but that kind of experience, he has a LOT of budget experience, military, foreign policy-a real guy, someone who has no "issues' is EXACTLY WHAT THE NO-EXPERIENCE DOING NOTHING OBAMA NEEDS-SO REED WOULD BE A GOOD CHOICE THERE!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Biden also has a very compelling personal narrative. If you haven't heard it, read up on him. Besides that, he's from Scranton, pretty blue collar if you ask me. That's Middle America.

Posted by: Nobody | August 22, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse


POLITICO IS CALLING THIS THE OBAMA STRIPTEASE

ISN'T THAT TRUE


MORE OBAMA DRAMA


JUST WHAT WE NEED ???

THE MARKETING CRAPOLA


THE PROBLEM IS - OBAMA IS PICKING SOMEONE - PER HIS THURSDAY STATEMENT --- FOR THE FOLLOWING TOP CRITERIA


1. THE VP MUST BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER (HELLO? YEAH? NO BRAINER)

2. THE VP MUST BE ABLE TO HELP HIM GOVERN. (HELLO? CAN'T WE ELECT SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T NEED HELP?)

3. THE VP MUST BE ABLE TO TELL HIM WHEN HE'S MADE A BAD DECISION. (WHY?? CAN'T HE MAKE HIS OWN?)


MR. OBAMA WANTS A BABYSITTER - SOMEONE TO DO THE JOB FOR HIM

LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN HIS LIFE

GOD HELP US... NO,

SMALL TOWN BITTER WHITE FOLK ARE GOING TO HELP US

THEY HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS THAN THIS DONE NOTHING

AND THEY ARE CLINGING TO THEM


HERE IS AN AWESOME AND INFORMATIVE LINK TO MR. BS BAIT AND SWITCH OBAMA'S GAME - AMY GOODMAN - A REAL JOURNALIST FROM DEMOCRACY NOW - NOT THIS CHRIS CRAP WANNA KISS OBAMA MAN

BE INFORMED -THIS PODCAST IS REAL INFORMATION NOT MARKETING JAZZ
http://ia311204.us.archive.org/1/items/amy-goodman-column-20080724/Pod_ConventionsMoney_1-2.mp3


Posted by: Todd | August 22, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Obama will carry Delaware's electoral votes - woohoo. What a sloppy choice for VP !!!

Posted by: REAGAN 2008 | August 22, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

To Anonymous - Jack Reed is not a Senator from New Hampshire, he proudly hails from the Ocean State (Rhode Island). I don't see Reed bringing in middle America voters, though he is respected for his military experience, his West Point education, and his knowledge of foreign relations, the poor guy is very short. I love Jack Reed, he is my senator, but I just don't see America accepting a short guy, as sad as that is.

Posted by: Jenna | August 22, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

I love Joe Biden. Sure he'll bring a little baggage, but he'll bring a ton of charisma and unparalleled foreign policy experience!

Posted by: Emmy | August 22, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

ha Ha Ha! Although I'm a Dem. I wouldn't be caught dead voting for the no-account, done nothing in his life whatsoever to prepare him for president Obama-and as for Biden? Well he does have his "issues" now doesn't he? But even if he didn't have THOSE issues, he brings absolutely NOTHING to the table-what, foreign policy experience? You think that's what Obama needs? THINK AGAIN-HE NEEDS EVERYTHING-SOMEBODY WHO HAS HAD EXPERIENCE IN THE REAL WORLD-NOT JUST IN CONGRESS-AND CONGRESS IS ALL JOE BIDEN KNOWS!

Posted by: SPRING RAIN | August 22, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Very nice, if it is Biden. A plagiarist and the ultimate in identity thiefs, he should make a great vice-president candidate.

Posted by: Friday Knight | August 22, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I love Joe Biden. Sure he'll bring a little baggage, but he'll bring a ton of charisma and unparalleled foreign policy experience!

Posted by: Emmy | August 22, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I find the choice of Biden to bizarre and a mistake for Obama's campaign. Biden is a loudmouth who called Obama "clean and articulate."

Biden is a very intelligent guy but he is also very undisciplined and kind of a wacko to put on the national ticket. Maybe the Obama people don't really know what they are doing.

Posted by: Jan | August 22, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Very nice, if it is Biden. A plagiarist and the ultimate in identity thiefs, he should make a great vice-president candidate.

Posted by: Friday Knight | August 22, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Very nice, if it is Biden. A plagiarist and the ultimate in identity thiefs, he should make a great vice-president candidate.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

A ticket with two senators....ugh.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

P.S. I think that Obama's more likely choice, and CLEARLY a stronger choice, would be SEN. JACK REED of NH-REED COULD ACTUALLY BE OF REAL USE TO OBAMA-AS FAR AS THAT GOES, WHERE BIDEN WILL BRING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT OBAMA NEEDS TO THE TABLE-CERTAINLY NOT MIDDLE-AMERICA VOTERS!

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Senator Biden would be a good choice: he has the credentials in foreign policy.

Posted by: DL | August 22, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I love love love the Biden choice, if it's him. He has experience, something McCain says Obama doesn't have. He has foreign relations experience, something Obama doesn't have. He's an attack dog, something Obama needs. The whole thing with this pick is that Obama had to choose someone who is "ready for prime time" and that is Joe Biden. Good choice,

Posted by: John | August 22, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

ABC is reporting the Secret Service is at Biden's house now.

Posted by: Justin | August 22, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

So, it looks like it will be SEN. JOE BIDEN-whoopee. He'll bring absolutely nothing to the table that Obama needs, and is himself, quite "tired."

Posted by: Spring Rain | August 22, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to get that text.

Biden's a solid choice.

Posted by: KD | August 22, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

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