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Does Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin have that elusive "Teflon" quality? (AP Photo/Jack Dempsey)

The two most successful politicians in recent political history -- former presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton -- had one very important thing in common: negative stories rarely stuck to them.

This so-called "Teflon" quality allowed both men to weather political storms that would have destroyed most politicians and to emerge at the end of their political lives beloved by large swaths of the American public.

In the three weeks since Sarah Palin was introduced by John McCain as his vice presidential running mate, the little-known Alaska governor's ability to remain popular with voters even while being pilloried in the press over a series of missteps large and small has baffled and mystified Democratic strategists who have wondered privately whether she has that Teflon quality all politicians covet.

A series of national polls conducted since the Palin pick in late August have revealed sterling favorabilty ratings that have -- by and large -- held up through her public vetting.

A sampling of polls conducted this month bears out this phenomenon:

Newsweek: 52 percent favorable/32 unfavorable
Fox News/Opinion Dynamics: 54 percent favorable/27 percent unfavorable
NBC/Wall Street Journal: 49 very or somewhat positive/ 27 somewhat or very negative
Washington Post/ABC: 58 percent favorable/28 percent unfavorable

The national survey of the most recent vintage, however, suggests that some of the shine around Palin is wearing off. Forty percent of the sample in the poll conducted by the New York Times and CBS News viewed Palin favorably while 30 percent saw her in an unfavorable light. And, with Palin now taking audience questions and freelancing a bit more, her image is certain to change -- for good or bad remains to be seen -- over the next few weeks.

For today's Wag the Blog question, we want to know whether you think Palin truly is Teflon and will remain that way all the way through the election or whether her honeymoon with the public is coming to an end. As always, the why behind your opinion is what we are truly interested in so make sure to show your work (an homage to The Fix's many math teachers of yore) in the comments section below.

The best and brightest of the comments will be featured in a separate post later this week.

Go to it!

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Teflon is a great way to describe Sara..However one cannot be a politician without a teflon coating...That is for sure

Posted by: carol stanley | September 22, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Earlier this week I posted that John McCain supported W's plan of privatizing Social Security and what a big deal that was considering the meltdown of Wallstreet this week. Can you just imagine if seniors had been allowed to put their social security money into Wallstreet and needed to liquidate on Tuesday. It was a dumb and risky proposal when W proposed it and if McCain truly supported it as I have read today, it should cost McCain the states of Florida and Pa and their electoral votes(states with the oldest populations), if Obama's team has any sense. That message should be run nonstop in Florida and Pa. for the next 44 days imho. That is precisely how W won in 2004 by repeating his message ad nauseau, like McCain and privatizing Social Security should be done by O.

Posted by: Leichtman | September 20, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Retired Sen. Phil Gramm, McCain's CHIEF ECONOMIC Advisor. Gramm is the MAIN person responsible for the current economic collapse. Gramm is responsible for sneaking legislation through on 12/15/2000 (ref. NPR Fresh Air 4/3/08 podcast), that deregulated Complex Derivatives. Complex Derivative allow banking & insurance industry to make billion dollar bets, OFF THE BOOKS. And now the American Tax Payer must PAY or the country goes bankrupt. Sure, vote republican, let the corporation's and super rich get richer on our dime. Let them off Scott free.

Gramm's Wife served on the ENRON BOD, during the time Gramm pushed through additional deregulation on Oil & Gas & Banking industry. McCain is a long time friend and supporter of GRAMM.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 20, 2008 4:01 AM | Report abuse

LISTEN to Palin's Speech When she returned to Alaska two weeks ago. When she exited the plane she spoke to the people. LISTEN CAREFULLY to her pronunciation of "REGIME" Change, when talking about foreign policy. READ her LIPS. She does NOT KNOW THE WORD. She just Memorized the word from the Speech writers. She said REGINE. That UNEDUCATED?! Be very Scared of McPain.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 20, 2008 3:51 AM | Report abuse

Palin and McCain want an oil well on every corner. I don't care if all Alaskans want to drill oil. Most humans are greedy and only care about money. Don't let Palin ruin Alaska. Alaska belongs to all Americans, leave Alaska pure, get rid of Palin and McCain before they destroy the last remaining pure nature in the US. Pipelines leak and ships sink, sink Palin and McCain before Alaska is destroyed.

Posted by: Ray | September 19, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Some crazy Australian writes:

"[Apparently, Americans don't enjoy the privilege of wagering, I am led to believe. Aside from on equities they don't understand and homes they can't afford, I mean.]

All one-sided action for Obama despite polls showing a toss-up or small McCain electoral win.

Posted by: DexterManley"

Apparently your belief is that beer drinking gamblers are in tuned with what American voters want. Seems like you got kicked in the head by one kangeroo too many.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 19, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

winger1 wrote (in common Obamite lying fashion):

1) Idiot claim one: Her "My son is in the army. If necessary, I'm ready to handle the Defense Department"

She never made that connection in the slightest. Her son in the army connection had to do with personal connection with somebody who has loved ones in the military. Why the hell you think it is handled to her ability to work with the defense department is beyond me. That is headfake red-herring number one from another dumb lying Obamite.

2) "I can see Russia from my front porch. I'm prepared to handle our country's foreign affairs"

Again, she never made that connection, why do you assinine Obamite liars insist upon such blatant deception.

Her connection to seeing Russia was one of constant awareness of the Russians being there, as in, Russia can actually be seen from Alaska.

In no wise did she claim or imply that being able to see them means she is more prepared. The implication is that being able to see them makes one more keenly aware of their existence. Generally seeing them would logically lead to a stronger concern of knowing what they are up to as opposed to maybe being in Chicago. But even that is not the issue.

3) Very unfortunately a huge chunk of the GOP votes its tax bill

You mean the main base of the dem party voters looking for handouts, cheap loans, more tax money coming to them are not voting based on their pocketbook? Yeah right. Dream on. As for republicans, were are multi-tasking. We vote based on military, tax issues, country protection, abortion, smaller government, less handouts, more fairness, better competition, states rights, private rights, etc, etc.

Just bacause you cant think past the last TV ad means that we reps cant too.

Posted by: KMichaels | September 19, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

She's young, she's pretty, she arrived on page 1 above the fold. McCain's medical file is thick and heavy. As a replacement she 's no more qualified than I am.

Her "My son is in the army. If necessary, I'm ready to handle the Defense Department", and "I can see Russia from my front porch. I'm prepared to handle our country's foreign affairs" are 1) equally preposterous and 2) insults to the intelligence of the American people. My mother had a son in the army. She was, God love her, no Harry Truman. I can see the I-10 freeway from my backporch. I hope to God that McCain wouldn't hire me to head up Transportation.

Very unfortunately a huge chunk of the GOP votes its tax bill, and too many of the rest of us vote as television, deliberately or not, causes us to vote. If television does a half-way decent job of making clear what the pretty lady truly is, skillswise, she who came in on page 1 above the fold will be on page 10 of a fish wrapper by election day.

Posted by: winger1 | September 19, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

WE GOT HOSED!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin appears too Vogue on the outside ($2500. 00 top) and too vague on the inside (real issues).

Posted by: Bob Medford | September 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The very fact that the campaign is doing a Friday drop of the news that Todd Palin and the rest of the Governor's subpoenaed staff will not be testifying is a sign that her image is already at the breaking point.

The very real fear of exposing her to the media and of viciously snapping sexist at anyone who attempts to question her record or her personality (including the clearly feminist and nationally beloved Tina Fey)are signs from the campaign itself that they are doing more than wiping grease off of teflon. It's more like a team of scrubbing bubbles trying to fight off rust creeping up the side of a pan in a unkempt sink.

Posted by: Militantsatire | September 19, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't care whether she's made of Teflon or jizz-on-Kleenex.

About 20 million pounds sterling has hit the US Presidential Election cash and futures markets outside the US for Obama since Australians were sipping their morning coffee last Monday.

You could lay 11/10 with Obama Sunday night. You can find better than Obama laying 9/5 anywhere in the world where such things are done as of a few hours ago.

[Apparently, Americans don't enjoy the privilege of wagering, I am led to believe. Aside from on equities they don't understand and homes they can't afford, I mean.]

All one-sided action for Obama despite polls showing a toss-up or small McCain electoral win.

Posted by: DexterManley | September 19, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I hope that Mr. McCain care about policy of immigration, specially for Iraqis whom works with US Forces and their families such like parents, brothers & sisters.
God bless USA.
From inside Iraq

Posted by: Writer Sohel Ahmed Bahjat | September 19, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Given that Palin has been hidden away from the media, there's hasn't been too much that could tarnish her image. The diehards that have learned about her already had strong opinions. The average voter is going to wait for soundbites, which won't come until she exposes herself to the media. What's interesting is to think that McCain might keep her hidden until election day, only speaking to the republican base so she stays out of the news. That would let her serve her purpose of firing up the base without facing any media coverage to tarnish her image. The questions in that case are whether her image might tarnish despite her low profile and whether voters will accept her if they don't know anything about her.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/19/AR2008091900620.html?hpid=topnews

This is simple. All the Obama campaign needs to do is create and extensively run a commercial that concisely details Depression era financial safety valves the the Democrats created so many decades ago. The commercial can then contrast everything McCain has personally done to undo these safeties. Next, we flash to the current financial crisis and demonstrate how regulators have saved the economy by abandoning their McCain-Bush hand's off approach in favor of the tools put in place by the Democrats.

They don't build 'em like they used to... Give me some more of that New Deal magic baby!

Posted by: Nick Collins III | September 19, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"TROOPERGATE" "TROOPERGATE" "TROOPERGATE"

TODD AND SARAH? PLEADING THE 5th WOULD BE MORE CEDIBLE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!

WHAT IS IT YOUR NOT WANTING TO SHARE WITH THE PEOPLE YOU WERE GOVERNING?

DON'T THE PEOPLE OF ALASKA HAVE A RIGHT, AND DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT EVER TRUTH, COMES OUT OF THE TROOPERGATE INVESTIGATION?

YOUR RUNNING AROUND THE COUNTRY WAVING LIKE SUPERSTARS AND SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS.

COME HOME TO ALASKA AND SIGN FOR THE "TROOPERGATE" INVESTIGATION TO CONTINUE.

Posted by: THE FULL BLOODED ESKIMO IN IGLOO | September 19, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

JOE "WHAT?'KINS" WATKINS (R) STRATEGIST CLASS CLOWN NUMBER 1...DUDE NEEDS TO REFORM HIS DENTAL CARE PLAN...DID'NT YOUR BOSS TALK ABOUT REFORM? HAVE HIM REFORM YOUR DENTAL PLAN DUDE!

Posted by: MCGRUFF | September 19, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has the sarcasm of Major Guiliani, the leadership abilities of Governor Huckabee, the same ideas and policies of Governor George W Bush, the honest of Dick Cheney, the same depth of understanding the economy as John McCain, a campaign staff of former members of the Bush Adminstration, washington lobbyists, and former members of Karl Rove's staff, and the intellect of Rush Limbuagh. Sarah Palin is the first truly Authentic Celebrity Politician.

Posted by: N Pfotenhauer | September 19, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Ah,
Those infamous defenders of the "TRUTH". First G Gordon Liddy, then Oliver North, and now Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Del3 | September 19, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin folks try to have a open mind and watch MSNBC. You will get more truth there.

If your better half want allow it, you have laws that allow you to be your own person.

Do you know how pleasing it is to watch FOXNEWS with BILLO and HANNITY every night sticking their foots...lol in their mouths!

Posted by: SLUGO | September 19, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Senator, Chuck Hagel (R) has less confidence in Palin and McCain ticket.

Republicans are saying behind closed doors that McCain is an butt with lip stick for not picking a smarter, experience, seasoned, credible VEEP.

Do you believe those other potential V.P. picks are happy. Do you really believe this?

COME ON QUOTE "I CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM MY HOUSE" WHEN SHE WAS ASKED ABOUT "INSIGHT"

How women can put false hope into PUMA is beyond my comprehension. OH WELL...you go guuuuuurls.

Posted by: MINNESOTA | September 19, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Ms.RockyMountain, WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU. YOU SHOULD'NT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE DISCOMMUNICATED. WE ARE SOOOOOOO PROUD!

Posted by: THE MORMONS | September 19, 2008 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi reminds me of a little old lady who carries a BIG ass BAT! lol...

derailing the REPUBLICANS stone walling on off shore drilling.

Posted by: the fish around the rigs | September 19, 2008 7:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm an independent proudly supporting McCain and now Palin. The CNN/MSNBC media smear has only made me support her even more. Gov Palin is a minority in when it comes to DC politics. She's likeable, has guts, and more "the right kind" of experience than Obama. Besides, Obama and the new Dem party are too far left for my tastes or trust.

Posted by: MsRockyMtn | September 19, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

hav'nt you nimrods heard? the republican party is falling apart at this time. I recommend you up date to Windows XP.

Bush/Rove threw McPalin ticket under the BUS. There's another program you can get but you have to contact Palin for that one.

Posted by: COMPUTER GUY | September 19, 2008 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Hey key phrase,

can you get some new material already. your post is in the past tense.

we've moved on to the economy "my friend" and I say that the ECONOMY is sound.

can you turn over Palin's email pass word please. we need to send out some emails.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

> PRES. CLINTON/DEMOCRATS HAD NO REGULATIONS DURING THE 90'S WHICH CAUSED MANY INTERNET COMPANIES TO GO BANKRUPT.

Didn't a lot of businesses ( and Internet Co.) go bankrupt because of lax (or NO) corporate regulation during Pres. Clinton/Democrat rule. So, how could Sen. Obama/Dem. call the Rep. stink when the same exact thing happened to them during the Clinton/Dem. rule.

> SEN. OBAMA HAS NO SOLUTION TO ECONOMIC PROBLEMS!

I watch Sen. Obama speech about fixing economy. Frankly, he has no solution. He babbles on and on about Rep. cause recession; therefore, Sen. McCain is responsible for making companies bankrupt, and Americans should remove all Rep. and place him in charge. However, he does not have an intelligent solution which will solve our problem. His energy proposal stinks, his wealth shifting tax policy stinks, and he has no economic exp.; but most importantly, he does not have a specific fix for bad corporate practices and regulation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

Sherry in Mclean,

you and a small boat load of refugee's off the coast on GALVASTINE are the only folks who have that same sentiment.

your post is the corniest I have read yet!

Posted by: a fish off the coast of galvastine | September 19, 2008 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Here's the key phrase:
"...the little-known Alaska governor's ability to remain popular with voters even while being pilloried in the press..."

Even while being PILLORIED in the press.

Yes, we're all still waiting for Barack Obama to get pilloried in the press, instead of producing that famous tingle up the legs.

We now know that the media picks its favorites, and goes after anyone who threatens that. The problem is, Americans hate the media.

btw, I see that some readers don't know what "elitist" means.
It's not about how rich you are.

It's about how you campaign in PA telling voters that you feel their pain, and then you go behind closed doors in San Francisco and make fun of them.

It has nothing to do with how much money you display. It has to do with showing arrogance towards other people.

Obama shows arrogance towards other people, especially behind closed doors, when he thinks he's alone with other elitists, like Nancy Pelosi.

Obama wants to tell us how much Cindy McCain's outfit cost -- a woman who does big time charity work all over the world.
Why doesn't Obama publish how much Barbra Streisand or Susan Saradon's outfits cost?

Why not? Because he's an elitist.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey ANN ...WHATS YOUR POINT MY FRIEND. CAN YOU SEE ALASKA FROM YOUR BACKYARD?

Posted by: John McCain | September 19, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin...are you jelling yet?

Posted by: FOOT ODOR | September 19, 2008 6:48 AM | Report abuse

wowee ka zowee mcbush and palin my side acts...lol

Posted by: bozo the clown | September 19, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

There's some truth to this article. Palin constantly calls Obama "elitist" while herself wearing $350 designer glasses. The press comes up with an article about . . . how popular those designer frames have become! Imagine the caterwalling on the right if Obama wore $350 glasses, or McCain's $500 shoes?

Palin's higher education career reminds me of the John Belushi line from Animal House: "Expelled! That's seven good years down the drain."

Posted by: Observant Guest | September 19, 2008 4:44 AM | Report abuse

Both Reagan and Clinton weathered 8 years as president. Palin hasn't yet served 20 days as a running mate...get a grip on yourselves.

Posted by: socalgal59 | September 19, 2008 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys, take it easy on the poor girl, especially taking 5 years to get a degree in journalism...I too worked my way through college and was a very poor, single-parent! It took me 14 to get my degree...oh yeah, I have a Masters degree...and it actually contains a rigorous emphasis on Social Policy...hey, maybe I could be the next VP choice!

Palin? Teflon? Not anymore!!

Posted by: Ann | September 19, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Some ventriloquist is missing his dummy.

Posted by: Not impressed | September 19, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Having returned just yesterday from a week in Alaska, I am more confident than ever that Palin has that Teflon quality I thought I saw the first time I heard her speak to a national audience. She is the REAL DEAL--a person of character, integrity, and depth of experience to produce real change in Washington. American history, rich with strong leaders from small beginnings, teaches the value of offering sons and daughters a microcosm of how the varied parts of our world work together--a concept those considering themselves more sophisticated may overlook in an experience unlike their own. As I talked with a myriad of Alaskans, my confidence in Palin's Teflon ability to shake off critics and lead real reform soared. She completes the dream ticket the American people have longed for to clean up national politics. While McCain's reform efforts may have alienated in the past, her successful Alaska leadership produced high bipartisan approval ratings. I predict her Teflon coating will rub off on McCain, causing their "clean up" in Washington to gain high approval ratings across this country.

Posted by: Sherry in McLean | September 19, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Truth is the best defense, and Gov. Palin has truth as her shield against the scurrilous lies of the Dishonest Liberal Media. But please, DLM, by all means continue with your campaign against her. We see right through you and you just don't get it. Every time you open your mouths, every time you run another hit piece against her, you help the GOP and shred your own credibility. Soon you will have none left at all, and your influence over the American people will disppear like The One's power to lower sea level. Speed the day.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Bounce Over? Obama Regains Lead In Polls
National polls in recent days show that Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama has moved ahead of his Republican rival.
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McCain's Childish Act Is Enough To Outsmart Media
Because Obama hasn't agreed to McCain's unprecedented town hall proposal, McCain is telling us Obama deserves what he's getting. John McCain's argument isn't just nonsensical. It's petulant.

Posted by: atl | September 18, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

BLUBBER GATE SCANDLE!

HEY PALIN'S..WHY DON'T YOU AND WOULD HAVE BEEN "FIRST DUDE" JUST PLEAD THE 5th ON THE "BLUBBER GATE" SCANDLE? YOU WOULD SOUND JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CREDIBLE!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I WOULD RATHER STINK THAN BE A HOG WITH LOP STICK...WHO CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM MY BED WHILE I'M HUMPING HAHAHHAHAHAHAA

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

WHO CAN TRUST THIS HANNITY AND PALIN INTERVIEW...I DON'T. HANNITY WORKING ON HIS CAREER THAN HE WILL THROW THE DISH UNDER THE BUS VERY VERY SOON.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | September 18, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

PRES. CLINTON/DEMOCRATS HAD NO REGULATIONS DURING THE 90'S WHICH CAUSED MANY INTERNET COMPANIES TO GO BANKRUPT.

BTW, didn't a lot of businesses (Internet Co.)go bankrupt because of lax (NO) corporate regulation during Pres. Clinton/Democrat rule. So, how could Sen. Obama/Dem. call the Rep. stink when the same exact thing happened to them during the Clinton/Democrat rule.

Posted by: Dem AlsoStinks | September 18, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS HOWARD COSELL AND MCCAIN GOES BACK TO PASS. HE HAS A PLAYER WIDE OPEN IN THE END ZONE, HE THROWS DEEP, OH MY A HAIR MARY PASS. OH MY GOD...SHE DROPPED THE BALL. DEMOCRATS WINS A LITTLE TO ALOT.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I believe that Palin does not truly have that "teflon" quality. Reagan and Clinton each had something definite that they could offer their respective bases, and something that actually appealed to moderates on both sides of the aisle. But for both Reagan and Clinton, each man ran at a time that was quintessentially right for their particular "gifts" to shine through.

For Reagan, he was a tough talking cowboy who appealed to America's "Hollywood" side. In the midst of the '80 campaign, American hostages were being held by terrorists in Tehran, and Jimmy Carter's efforts to resolve that situation just weren't working. America wanted results, and they wanted them immediately. I believe that Reagan won over the hearts of Americans when the dramatic release of the hostages came during his inaugural address and, thereafter, Reagan could do no wrong in the eyes of many Americans.

For Clinton, his appeal was more about Americans wanting a change from the hard line Republicans that had begun to emerge in Congress. Men such as Newt Gingrich were already starting to wear thin on the nerves of many moderates and liberals, and Clinton had exactly the right chemistry to make liberals believe that there was still a good fight left in the Democrat party. Combine that with Clinton's "gift for gab," and he connected with a great many Americans, who were willing to overlook any personal faults he possessed so long as he kept doing a good job.

Palin -- through no fault of her own -- is running at the worst possible time for any Republican to run. Eight years of the Bush Administration, the Iraq War, an economy that the average American is doubtful of, Hurricane Katrina, and a mostly disconnected president have made for a hostile playing field for most Republicans. That means that Palin will get the rough treatment by the vast majority of liberals and a great many independents ... and that doesn't bode well for Governor Palin.

Posted by: Kay Decker | September 18, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

KARL ROVE TRYING TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM MCPALIN...WTF...THESE REPUBLICANS THROWING EACH OTHER UNDER THE BUS. MCCAIN THREW THE PRESISENT UNDER THE BUS YESTERDAY WITH HIS RHETORIC ABOUT THE ECONOMY. HE FLIPPED FLOPPED IN THE SAME SENTENCE ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

absolutely not. things are already starting to stick- namely troopetgate.

Posted by: Hannah D | September 18, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

KARL ROVE SAY'S "WE HAVE THIS FRESH NEW FACE WITH PALIN" OH NO, KARL! NOT FRESH ANYMORE NOT FRESH AT ALL!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

NEWT GINGRICH AND SEAN HANNITY STILL TRYING TO GET VOTERS FOR PALIN.

FACT OF THE MATTER, OBAMA LEADS WITH WHITE WOMEN 47% OBAMA 43% FOR MCCAIN. PALIN HAS ACCUALLY MADE IT WORSE FOR MCCAIN.

PRESIDENT BUSH HAD A HIGH NUMBER OF WHITE WOMEN VOTERS IN 2004 THAN MCCAIN HAS NOW!

SARAH PALIN DISINVITED TO PROTEST IN N.Y. BECAUSE JEWS DON'T TRUST MCBUSH/PALIN OR WANT HER THERE PERIOD...EXPLAIN THAT REPUBLICANS?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Teflon will wear off, then she will be relagated to speaking to small christian womens groups, the same way that "w" is cannot speak outside the VFW.

Posted by: Just a matter of time | September 18, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Republicans didn't know how starved and depressed they were for someone who looked young and healthy, until they saw Palin. Now they are thinking Thank God! They will stick with her no matter what.

Independents, maybe not.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I can’t believe were in such an importent election and the Liberal Media has been surpassing my Ann Coulter. She such a smart girl and has so many importent things to say. I love her in that mermaid movie from years ago. Splash I think it was. She is a best selling author now, and next to Sarah Palin, she’s one of the smartest women in our great country. Everyone always thinks if you’re an actor you should be a liberal, but my girl Ann doesn’t go along with that Hollywood stuff. She’s like the only true conservative hollywoods got. They should be asking Ann every day what she thinks about how Barrack Oblama has been lying about poor John McCain, instead they been surpassing her. That’s a red baron! The Democrats and the Liberal Media are always doing that, trying to take tension off people who really have things to say. I’m tired of it! Oblama’s not smart at all. Real people like me can see through people like him. The liberals are like the snobs that always bring the sandwich back and say it’s not good enough. Like I have anything to do weather the breads gone stale! The only story I found about Ann talking about Sarah when I searched Google was from Newsmax.com in Florida. Well thank God for you! I will pray that when the next hurricane hits there that you will be spared! She was asked there what she thought about John McCain’s septance speech, Ann said she turned it off because she already heard what she needed to hear when he picked Sarah. I turned McCain’s speech off too but I was pretty tired. Had the second job. Ann was right when she said that Sarah proves all the feminist wrong. She said the feminists are bitter, dried up hags and Sarah’s a major hottie. I think they’re all dried up and bitter too. After a certain age you don’t have much left in you. Some days I wake up and I’m like a bear. Ann said there just jellus of Sarah. I think that’s true.

Posted by: Lulu from Ohio | September 18, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

THE NERVE...THIS DISH SAID..

A PALIN AND MCCAIN TICKET...HAHAHAHAHAHHAA

Posted by: MCCAIN | September 18, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me to be a telling statement on Palin that the McCain campaign have been so over-eager to shield her from the media. Obviously this has fed into their anti-MSM narrative, but if they were really confident about her abilities they would have her out in the public eye. It doesn't matter if you're teflon or cast iron if you never cook eggs. To stretch the metaphor even further is Palin one of those cheap pans you buy in Wal-Mart - non-stick for the first two weeks, before the lining starts to peel off?

Posted by: Matt | September 18, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

NOT THE MAKAKA GUY?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

amazing, the media can't figure out why their attacks on behalf of their candidate, Barry Obama aren't working. I guess it is because the american people think the american media is a joke. By the way, when is Barry going to get asked the tough questions? Why is it we have to go to overseas news sources to actually hear about Barry's lies?

Posted by: jwbe | September 18, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

GWequalsWPE, someone used "dognabbit" who isn't dognabbit. (I'm guessing Chevy?) I don't want Sarah Palin for VP. Which is to say I don't want her for Prez, either.

Someone's tarnished my name.

Hey, washingtonpost.com! Make people register to use this message board!

The real dognabbit

Posted by: dognabbit | September 18, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, I don't find Palin appealing, but unfortunately many do.

In selecting Palin, McCain chose style over substance (packaging and not content), and the need for a Campaigner In-Chief over someone who can govern the country going forward. So far, that strategy seems to have worked and the jury is still out on whether her poor performance in interviews and reviews of her record are substantially sticking, despite me wanting that very much to happen.

Here's the appealing package that some see, that should not be under-estimated:

She looks great in designer suits. Can read a prepared speech real well. Emphasizes the zingers and one-liners with a smile, nod and determined fist. Delivers the maverick and fighting mantra with conviction. A regular small town gal who's made it to the big leagues. Working mom of 5.

I'm trying to be hopeful (an overused word these days) that most Americans will acknowledge the severe and complex problems this country has, and that we need the best and the brightest to face them.
It is a bit hard though, considering how many people voted for Bush, twice!


Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

[The] Alaska Women Reject Palin rally was to be held outside on the lawn in front of the Loussac Library in midtown Anchorage. Home made signs were encouraged, and the idea was to make a statement that Sarah Palin does not speak for all Alaska women, or men. I had no idea what to expect.The rally was organized by a small group of women, talking over coffee. It made me wonder what other things have started with small groups of women talking over coffee. It's probably an impressive list. These women hatched the plan, printed up flyers, posted them around town, and sent notices to local media outlets. One of those media outlets was KBYR radio, home of Eddie Burke, a long-time uber-conservative Anchorage talk show host. Turns out that Eddie Burke not only announced the rally, but called the people who planned to attend the rally 'a bunch of socialist baby-killing maggots,' and read the home phone numbers of the organizers aloud over the air, urging listeners to call and tell them what they thought. The women, of course, received some nasty, harassing and threatening messages.I felt a bit apprehensive. I'd been disappointed before by the turnout at other rallies. Basically, in Anchorage, if you can get 25 people to show up at an event, it's a success. So, I thought to myself, if we can actually get 100 people there that aren't sent by Eddie Burke, we'll be doing good. A real statement will have been made. I confess, I still had a mental image of 15 demonstrators surrounded by hundreds of menacing 'socialist baby-killing maggot' haters.It's a good thing I wasn't tailgating when I saw the crowd in front of the library or I would have ended up in somebody's trunk. When I got there, about 20 minutes early, the line of sign wavers stretched the full length of the library grounds, along the edge of the road, 6 or 7 people deep! I could hardly find a place to park. I nabbed one of the last spots in the library lot, and as I got out of the car and started walking, people seemed to join in from every direction, carrying signs.Never, have I seen anything like it in my 17 and a half years living in Anchorage. The organizers had someone walk the rally with a counter, and they clicked off well over 1400 people (not including the 90 counter-demonstrators). This was the biggest political rally ever, in the history of the state. I was absolutely stunned. The second most amazing thing is how many people honked and gave the thumbs up as they drove by. And even those that didn't honk looked wide-eyed and awe-struck at the huge crowd that was growing by the minute. This just doesn't happen here.Then, the infamous Eddie Burke showed up. He tried to talk to the media, and was instantly surrounded by a group of 20 people who started shouting O-BA-MA so loud he couldn't be heard. Then passing cars started honking in a rhythmic pattern of 3, like the Obama chant, while the crowd cheered, hooted and waved their signs high. So, if you've been doing the math… Yes. The Alaska Women Reject Palin rally was significantly bigger than Palin's rally that got all the national media coverage! So take heart, sit back, and enjoy the photo gallery. Feel free to spread the pictures around to anyone who needs to know that Sarah Palin most definitely does not speak for all Alaskans nor the women. The citizens of Alaska, who know her best, have things to say.

Posted by: CrazyMe | September 18, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

PROVOKED...ATLEAST IT WOULD HAVE MADE HER LOOK REAL AND PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE AFTER ALL SHE IS ONLY A "HOCKEY" MOM...HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

PALIN COULD HAVE RESPONDED WITH..WELL CHARLIE I'VE BEEN READING THE NEWS PAPERS AND IT SEEMS THAT ACCORDING TO (AP) REPORTS... RUSSIA HAS INVADED GEORGIA UNPREVOKED! "INSIGHT" REPUBLICAN MOOSE STEW EATERS!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

PALIN'S IGNORANCE HAS BEEN EXPOSED...WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT. I CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM MY HOUSE!

HELLO HELLO HELLO!

WHAT HAVE I MISSED HERE? I THINK NOTHING!

THE QUESTION WAS I QUOTE "WHAT INSIGHT DO YOU HAVE ON FOREIGN POLICY AS IT RELATES TO RUSSIA?"

PALIN "I CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM MY HOUSE"

INSIGHT , INSIGHT, INSIGHT..NOT WHAT IS IN YOUR SIGHT AS*H*LES.

INSIGHT AS INTO THE BOOK OF "DICK AND JANE".

INSIGHT INTO THE MOVIE "THELMA AND LOUISE" DO WE UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF INSIGHT?

ARE YOU AS DUMB AS PALIN?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST:

TUCKER BOUNDS AND RON CHRISTIE..DUMB AND DUMBER PART III

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

No mystery here at all. She remains popular because she has been shielded from the press. How many interviews has she given? How often has she campaigned alone? How many reporters are allowed to ask her questions while traveling with her?

She remains popular because all that some people know about her is what she said at the GOP convention. And you know, she repeats the same message on the campaign stump.

Posted by: cortez | September 18, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

She is "teflon" because the media does not call her out for all her lies!!!!!!

Posted by: Tell the truth media | September 18, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

WHAT? REPUBLICAN PARTY UNRAVELING. COME ON MCCAIN YOU SAID OUR ECONOMY WAS SOLID AND SOUND. NOW WE'RE SELLING OUR ECONOMY TO FOREIGN INVESTORS!

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT WATCHING FOXNEWS. BILLO, HANNITY DON'T JUMP PLEASE DON'T JUMP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

PALIN!!! IT'S THE SECRETARY OF STATE WHO TALKS TO RUSSIA AND ABOUT WAR..NOT A MCCAIN V.P. PICK.

STICKING YOUR NOSE WHERE IT DON'T BELONG.

TELL US ABOUT SOMETHING MORE COMPREHENSIBLE LIKE OUR ECONOMY YOU GOOF!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

WAL-MART MOM GIVING MCCAIN THE MIDDLE FINGER SALUTE....POOR....PUMA...YOU BUNCH OF DISGRUNTLED IDIOTS! PO THANGS!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse


I'm looking forward to the vp debates between Biden and Palin. "Now, just a minute, Joey" and "What bridge to nowhere, Joey?"

Posted by: joe turner | September 18, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

REPUBLICAN SENATOR CHUCK HAGEL IS FINALLY COMING OUT AND TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT MCCAINS VEEP!

WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY PEOPLE LIKE ROMNEY AND OTHER REPUBLICAN VEEP'S ARE'NT COMING OUT AND CALLING MCCAIN A BONEHEAD.

AFTER ALL MCCAIN IS SAYING AMERICA FIRST!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

BEFORE HILLARY LEFT:

MSNBC=HILLARY/OBAMA

CNN=HILLARY/MCCAIN

FOXNEWS=MCCAIN/HILLARY

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AFTER HILLARY:

MSNBC=OBAMA/HILLARY

CNN=MCCAIN/HILLARY

FOXNEWS=MCCAIN/HILLARY

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INTRODUCTION TO PALIN PRE-INTERVIEW:

MSNBC=OBAMA/MCCAIN

CNN=MCCAIN/PALIN

FOXNEWS=MCCAIN/PALIN

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AFTER PALIN INTERVIEW:

MSNBC=OBAMA

CNN=UNDECIDED

FOXNEWS=MCCAIN

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FINANCIAL CRASH, MCCAIN CLAIMS ECO. IS SOUND!:

MSNBC:OBAMA

CNN=OBAMA

FOXNEWS=UNDECIDED

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

How many Wal-Mart moms , buy suits at Sacs in New York ($2,500 dollar tops) . Cindy MaCains account , maybe ?

Posted by: Begga | September 18, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I think it's primarilly the fact that Palin's a new face and has excited a lot of people that's preventing attacks from sticking her, but I don't think that it's going to last. It seemed to be the same way for Obama for a while- once he started surging just before the Iowa caucuses, he seemed untouchable until right before the March 4 primaries. Palin's probably going to be able to coast for a little while longer and not have to worry about attacks on her having much effect, but after a while, I think that the people who keep pointing out her negatives are going to start to get noticed.

Posted by: Largo833 | September 18, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

YES CHARLIE, IN WHAT WAY CHARLIE, CHARLIE I CAN SEE RUSSIA CHARLIE, CHARLIE HI CHARLIE, OH WAIT CHARLIE, CHARLIE, CHARLIE, CHARLIE, WON'T SECOND GUESS THEM CHARLIE, SECOND GUESS CHARLIE, GUESS CHARLIE, GUESS WHAT CHARLIE, I CAN SEE CHARLIE RUSSIA FROM MY HOUSE CHARLIE, CHARLIE, CHARLIE!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

One was complaining because it took her six years to get her degree. That's called working your way through college, pal. Try it some time.

Posted by: Mike K | September 18, 2008 5:39 PM
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OK fine.
So what was her work?

Posted by: :-) | September 18, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Can you put some teflon tape on her mouth? sqeaky ass voice gotta go!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

While it's interesting to hear what parochial Europeans mistake for American polity, in the end it makes no difference.

Posted by: James Beam | September 18, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

As an American ex-pat who has been living in Switzerland for many years, I don't know much about Teflon; I do know how people here are generally reacting to McCain's choice: either with shock and disbelief or with an 'I told you so' attitude: The tale told is that Americans have not yet shaken off their frontier, gun-slinging past. The country was conquered through exploitation of the land and 'suppression' of native Americans. If people admire Sarah Palin, it is because she mirrors their own love of guns, wasteful disregard of the environment and unreflective, from my perspective, un-Christlike evangelicalism. I am very sad and worried.

Posted by: Betty Gerson | September 18, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

the belle in beehive captures the "surprise me" zeitgeist as David Brooks would have it..but unless there is substance her sarcasm will sink her.

Posted by: joyce simon | September 18, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

JUST LOOK AT THE CROWDS OBAMA KEEP'S BRING TO HIS CAMPAIGN PALIN LOVERS...ARE YOU BLIND? YOU CAN'T SMELL THE PORK FAT? BISCUITS AND GRITS? COME ON COOTER! LETS GO BASS FISHING AND TALK ABOUT THIS!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin is basking in the "Keesha" (Big
Brother" type glow for the moment. Wake up America, this is not a "most polular" award! In considering this view of her as a candidate, i would suggest it appears from a distance being understood in the same context as one would consider the pretty blond beauty contestent, otherwise who could be known as "like as!" from her televised gaff. If only they would permit the "Barracuda" to take the bait and make even her first unscripted remark.

Posted by: phillidr | September 18, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

As an American ex-pat who has been living in Switzerland for many years, I don't know much about Teflon; I do know how people here are generally reacting to McCain's choice: either with shock and disbelief or with an 'I told you so' attitude: The tale told is that Americans have not yet shaken off their frontier, gun-slinging past. The country was conquered through exploitation of the land and 'suppression' of native Americans. If people admire Sarah Palin, it is because she mirrors their own love of guns, wasteful disregard of the environment and unreflective, from my perspective, un-Christlike evangelicalism. I am very sad and worried.

Posted by: Betty Gerson | September 18, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

The teflon analogy obscures the distinction between Republican and Democrats. The former run on "values" they fail to uphold. Not so the Dems.

Posted by: jhbyer | September 18, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

REPUBLICAN PARTY NOW DEPENDING ON WAL-MART MOM...DID YOU KNOW MINORITY GROUPS OUT NUMBER THE WHITE WOMEN VOTES. YOU PEOPLE KEEP GRASPING AT STRAWS. SPEAKING OF STRAWS. I'LL TAKE A STRAWBERRY SHAKE WAL-MART ASSOCIATE!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

MIKE K SAY'S STUPIDER...MIKE DO YOU LIVE IN A TENT HALF BETWEEN ALASKA AND RUSSIA?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

RES, SAY'S PALIN IS UNSCATHE, APPEALLING PACKAGE...WHAT??? RES...ARE YOU THE ONLY PERSON WHO DIDN'T SEE PALIN'S INTERVIEW WITH GIBSON. ITS SEEMS RES...YOU ARE SHOWING RESPECT FOR PALIN.

YOU CAN REMAIN ANONYMOUS!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

We don't know yet if she is teflon coated because the attempts to attack her have been so crude and obnoxious. The "troopergate" story is ridiculous since no police agency would hire that idiot. The bridge was canceled by her when she could have continued it as Murkowski planned to do. The rest are just smears. A few of the comments here include some of the stupider attempts I've heard. One was complaining because it took her six years to get her degree. That's called working your way through college, pal. Try it some time.

Posted by: Mike K | September 18, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO YOU MCBUSH VOTERS, BUT TO GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP IS RETARTED.

Posted by: MAMMIE | September 18, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Chevy:

I don't believe you. You're a LIAR. JUDAS

Posted by: Pontius Pilate | September 18, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

PS: Favorables for Palin among independents in the aforementioned poll were 53 percent. Biden had 52 percent favorables among that group.

Posted by: sfcpoll | September 18, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

bardgal, ScienceMan, McRumi - excellent comments - thank you.

Posted by: rkrenke | September 18, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

To answer your question, unless something very major occurs that's related to Palin (e.g., said by her, or revealed by the MSM) that causes her to very publicly scorch and burn, I think her teflon coating will remain relatively unscathed. However, there may be more salient questions to be posed.

First, how much does she, and her appealing packaging (not necessarily the questionable contents) play in influencing the outcome of the election? According to some pundits and pollsters, this may be with the constituency of white women, and more specifically, non-college educated moms.

Or, given the geo-political climate, and extremely volatile and unprecedented economic environment, will perhaps, one or more other factors trump the Palin effect?

Unfortunately, its taken the financial crisis that's hopefully peaked in the last few days, to get both candidates back to talking about substantive issues (from lipstick to liquidity). One can only hope that this trend will continue in the remaining weeks and Americans afford themselves the opportunity to truly realize the need for real change and that Barack Obama is much more equipped to effectively do so.

Posted by: RES | September 18, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

From the outset, views of Palin have been largely driven by partisanship: ABC's poll less than a week after her selection had her with 85 percent approval among Republicans but only 24 percent among Democrats- a very short period for partisan views to come to bear on a new personality.

I think that as the campaign goes on, the partisan gap will grow even further simply because Democrats and Republicans will see and hear what they want to hear.

Independents are the group to watch (though cliche). If McCain continues to push her into the traditional VP role of attack dog, she could suffer among that group. Nonetheless, it seems Obama will have less to do with it if her ratings go down: he seems much more focused on attacking McCain directly.

Posted by: sfcpoll | September 18, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

1. this is not the 19th century.

2. Lincoln, even in the 19tb century, was a brilliant lawyer, brilliant debater and extremely well-read.

3. Palin is none of the above. She has a certain elemental charisma, but so do any number of car salesmen.

4. it is telling that you can even ask such a question. this is nothing less then blind hope...hoping against the evidence, which exists, that Palin can lead this nation and deal with a multitude of domestic and international problems. Any person who is afraid of the Press and the public in general shouldn't even be considered.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 5:03 PM

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Would you buy a car from Obama? BTW, he is not a brilliant lawyer, lousy at debates and is good at writing his biography.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

women can't lead

Posted by: think progress | September 18, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin = Spiro Agnew, John McCain = ????

CAN YOU SAY - PRESIDENT PELOSI?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

She is a "cartoon character."

Posted by: royals1 | September 18, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Lincoln who is considered the greatest President was not Ivy League educated in fact he was very much self educated on the frontier. He was not from a highly populated area and he was definitely not considered to be part of the elite.
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1. this is not the 19th century.

2. Lincoln, even in the 19tb century, was a brilliant lawyer, brilliant debater and extremely well-read.

3. Palin is none of the above. She has a certain elemental charisma, but so do any number of car salesmen.

4. it is telling that you can even ask such a question. this is nothing less then blind hope...hoping against the evidence, which exists, that Palin can lead this nation and deal with a multitude of domestic and international problems. Any person who is afraid of the Press and the public in general shouldn't even be considered.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl posted:

I have an idea... all those liberal arts graduates, who studied useless things like English, History, and Philosophy, should be lined up and herded into a giant meat processor, and once ground up, used to feed pets and the more useful foreigners. Feed the hungry, work on the population crisis, get rid of liberals and smart people - it's win-win.

What do you all think of my "Modest Proposal"?

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Sounds good HitlerGirl, Bush 43 was a history major.

See this is what happens when the uneducated mouth off, they inevitably stick their foot in it.

A world without smart people- no teachers, or engineers, or physicists, wow you're brilliant.

"It's got electrolytes, It's what plants crave"

Posted by: AMERICA | September 18, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

She is one of life's energetic little cheerleaders, slightly above average in IQ, journalism/poli-science major (took 6yrs to get a degree from a 3rd tier university ) has the stage presence of a newsanchor from a small city. Made her fame by being a whistle-blower against the good-ole-boys in Alaska. (not hard to do since they were so corrupt). She seems just like a normal, likable, PTA mom, until you ask her how old the earth is and she replies 6000 yrs, or you ask her about dinosaurs and she replies that they are satan's lizards, and the anti-christ will some be coming to earth! This person was brainwashed by Pentacostal holy rollers throughout her youth and underneath all that gee whiz, aw shucks, likable personality, there may be a hard core rreligious zealot. How can a person who takes the Bible literally know anything about fossil fuels, which were formed over 300 million years ago, when she accepts the fact that the earth is only 6000yrs old??? If she denies the literal interpretation of the bible she will alienate the religious right crowd who love her. The press needs to ask her some basic questions about science and her stong belief in creationism and whether it should be taught in biology, geology, and astronomy classes. Otherwise the American people will find themselves with another anti-science administration like we have had for the past 8yrs.

Posted by: ScienceMan | September 18, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Requirements?

You need to be the smartest person in the room - ANYWHERE. I don't want some idiot with no education, with zero understanding of economics or foreign affairs, or anything else for that matter, selling our assets and our future (energy, water supply, pick anything....) to the highest bidder like China - who already holds most of our DEBT.

I don't want to have a BEER or a Cosmo with my president. I don't want to hang out at the mall or at my kid's soccer game with my president! I want my president to know when to NOT bring their kids to work. I want my president to out-wit and out-maneuver every other world leader while brokering the peace, and strengthening our economy.

Since when did education, knowing the law, and having a brain become a bad thing???? When the Rs became less-than-qualified? If Sarah Palin were the Dem VP pick, you'd have come after her with torches and pitchforks.

Posted by: bardgal | September 18, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Teflon? Wrong question. But she certainly failed the VP IQ test. She should have, but apparently didn't, understand that she is not qualified to be VP, but then she doesn't know what a VP does. She _should_ have turned down McCain's generous, but foolish, offer to become his running mate...a sign that would have indicated that she _some_ intelligence. Her selection turned me further against McCain and towards Obama. With any luck, she'll soon be back in Alaska being a hockey mom. But I fear the worst...that McCain/Palin will be elected.

Posted by: koyaanisqatsi | September 18, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm curious. What are the requirements of being qualified for being or a heart beat away from being the President?

Do you have to have an ivy league education?

Does being the Governor of Arkansas or Georgia make you more qualified than being Governor of Alaska?

Do you have to be an attorney?

Do you have to be from a highly populated area?

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Lincoln who is considered the greatest President was not Ivy League educated in fact he was very much self educated on the frontier. He was not from a highly populated area and he was definitely not considered to be part of the elite.

Why is it so beyond the realm of belief that Sarah Palin could not make an excellent President if something happened to McCain? Why are people looking down their noses at her? She has governed successfully. She has accomplished more in 18 months than her predessor did in twice the amount of time. The people love her. I can only think that it is sexism at it's worst. One term governors have become President before without all this skepticism about their qualifications. The only difference was that they were male. Or is the problem that she is Governor of Alaska as if Alaskans are somehow less or more out of touch or less patriotic than those of us who are from the lower 48? Either way, it stinks and is not fair.

Posted by: Wren | September 18, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin is Teflon, and she very well may be, it's more of a reflection of our culture--and the citizens of that culture--then it is of her. I do not think she is qualified in any sense of the word, but we have become a nation of people who believes in spin, in fluff, in pablum. We don't want to do the hard work of thinking through the issues; we don't want to do the hard work of thinking through the merits of any particular candidate. We don't want to do the hard work of demanding excellence from our leaders. If we get Sarah Palin as President one of these days (pre-2012), we'll only have ourselves to blame. Seriously.

Posted by: Susan Meyer | September 18, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin came on the scene when republicans were desperate for a candidate they could get excited about. They got excited beyond reason without knowing anything about her. Other people got excited too. The far right will cling to her because it's all they have. Other people like independents and moderates will continue to move away from her because she is a zealot and very radical. As more is learned about her and reported, the two thirds of the country who disapprove of Bush will come to see that Sarah is Bush---only more so. Americans really do prefer a president who lives and works within the law and who doesn't govern in secrecy and shadows. Palin depends on secrecy. There's a reason for that. People won't choose it.

Posted by: karela | September 18, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Leslie Morgan Steiner said

I hear lots of women (and men) rejoicing over Sarah Palin. Her optimism and feisty attitude have strong appeal. McCain definitely has hit a home run with her as his choice for VP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I have an idea... all those liberal arts graduates, who studied useless things like English, History, and Philosophy, should be lined up and herded into a giant meat processor, and once ground up, used to feed pets and the more useful foreigners. Feed the hungry, work on the population crisis, get rid of liberals and smart people - it's win-win.

What do you all think of my "Modest Proposal"?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

If you believe in censorship; abstinence-only sex education; no abortion under any circumstances; the senseless and inhumane slaying of animals large and small; placing your unqualified high school friends in leadership positions; quelling investigations; lying to the electorate; drill baby drill; or that seeing Russia from your home state is all the preparation you need to go one-on-one with Putin; then Palin's a teflon candidate.

If you don't, then she isn't. Palin's views are extreme to say the least and many voters are just starting to pay attention.

When all is said and done, I think the majority will agree that she's no Clinton (Bill or Hillary - take your pick) or Reagan. Americans are ultimately going to reject her in large numbers.

Posted by: rkrenke | September 18, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE FIRED IS MCCAIN'S CAMPAIGN TEAM...I'LL START WITH BOZO THE CLOWN, THE PENGUIN, THE JOKER, DAVEY AND GOLIATH, WONDER WOMAN, 6 MILLION DOLLAR MAN OH AND LETS NOT FORGET MR. T. ALL WOULD BE OFF MCCAINS CAMPAIGN TEAM.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

You can put all the lipstick you want on a pitbull; hey, even add a dress!
it's still a dumb dog!

You'd think that she would at least come to California to thank the california citizens for allowing her welfare state, Alaska, to have one of the lowest tax rates in the nation.

California is the 7th highest tax rate in the nation. Californians contribute 289 Billion dollars annually to the federal budget, but we only get 80 cents on every federal dollar back.
Alaskans, who pay virtually no taxes are getting $1.80 cents back for every dollar they contribute.
The Alaskan welfare freeloaders at least owe Californians a 'thanks'.

Posted by: Steve Osterday | September 18, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I just got an EMAIL saying Palin being smeared..attacked! ANNNNNNDDDDDDD!

MCBUSH DON'T NEED YOUR CRY BABY EMAILS.

TELL US HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WAR?

TELL US HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIX OUR ECONOMY?

TELL ME, ARE WE GOING TO PAY OUR P.O.W.'S WHO SERVED IN THE IRAQ WAR.

MCBUSH YOU GOT PAYED FOR BEING A P.O.W. NOW CAN WE PAY THE U.S. P.O.W.'S WHO SERVED IN THE IRAQI WAR WE FOUGHT AGAINST SADDAM "WAR OF ALL WARS" A U.S. DICTATOR?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin is not teflon. The lady is kevlar. Bullets are shot at her and she is still standing. She is like a Timex watch, takes a beating but keeps on ticking.
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An American Eva Peron.

Equally illusory.

Don't cry for me, America.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Much too early to say. As a fresh face she is bound to have some initial goodwill and that's reflected in polling. Teflon is about the marathon, not the sprint.

Even your examples of Teflon, Clinton and Reagan, went through long periods of terrible polling with unfavs at or above fav ratings. I don't think fluctuations in polls are the measure, it's the ability to then bounce back and restore previous high numbers despite what your opponents considered mortal wounds.

Even in the 24-hour news cycle, there isn't enough time for Palin to go way down and then bounce back like that. But win or lose, she will be on the national stage at least until the 2012 election, so maybe we will have a chance to test her Teflon later on.

Posted by: Joey | September 18, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin is not teflon. The lady is kevlar. Bullets are shot at her and she is still standing. She is like a Timex watch, takes a beating but keeps on ticking.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

A typical comment by a Palindrone (from the Chicago SunTimes):

"Sarah is that standard God has raised up to stop the flood. She has the anointing. You can tell by how the dogs are already viciously attacking her. But they will not be successful. She knows the One she serves and will not be intimidated.

Back in the 1980s, I sensed that Israel's little-known Benjamin Netanyahu was chosen by God for an important end-time role. I still believe that. I now have that same sense about Sarah Palin..."


I believe in God and all that too, but this kind of medieval mind-set is what gets people killed and civilizations tanked. Bush is one. So is Palin.

God made us rational beings for a reason...to use our brains, not to count on divine intervention for an oil pipeline.

You want to return to the Middle Ages, vote McCain/Palin.


Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Her Teflon may remain for Republican partisans, although even many of them realize she was a political choice who isn't qualified to be President. I guess she must have some Teflon qualities if 40% of the people still view her favorably, despite her consistent lying about her record, her extremist views, her abuses of power in office, and her total lack of qualifications to be a heart beat away from the presidency. In the long-run, her cynical, "Country Be Damned" selection by McCain will come back to haunt him in November.

Posted by: UTMark | September 18, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Chris of the Fix...Palin like Teflon? No.

Palin is like glue. The reason why nothing has stuck on her is because nothing has been thrown at her. Most of the stuff has been throw around her.
Palin will quickly become the joke of this campaign.

Comments like "I can see Russia from Alaska" as a means of demonstrating foreign policy will cause moderate-leaning Republicans and Republican-leaning Independents to cringe for voting for the McCain/Palin ticket.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 18, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

As media access increases, as it must, she will show she's out of her depth, as the Gibson interview last week largely revealed. The "shiny new thing" factor is what she was benefitting from in the initial polls.

McCain's unexpected choice of Palin created understandable interest and some excitement among many middle-class and working-class female voters who don't follow politics especially closely and weren't really aware of her politics and views. She resonated with many of them as a working mother without an elite educational background or a high-powered lawyer or business background. But as her shallowness, her rather extreme right-wing views on many issues, and the lingering controversies surrounding her in Alaska have come to the forefront, she's becoming just another politician.

She clearly excites the far-right Republican base, which is what the pick was designed to do. In picking Palin, McCain was trying to invigorate his base, in hopes of running a "base" election as in 2004, re-running the Culture Wars, which is what the campaign has been about since Rove disciple Steve Schmidt essentially took over the campaign.

He was hoping for some gravy with the white female vote and early polling showed he might get some of that, but now that real events, in the form of the financial crisis, have usurped the attention and reshaped the race, making it clear that this election will be about real, consequential issues and policies and not about the silliness that the McCain campaign has focused on, the luster has worn from Palin. Her lack of preparedness is becoming obvious to most.

This is an important election, and it demands seriousness, as the problems and challenges that face the U.S. are serious. While Obama does indeed lack experience, he has demonstrated during the heat of a lengthy nearly two-year campaign that he is calm amongst discord and events---that he's not easily rattled, unusually intelligent, capable of inspiring others, conversant with and knowledgeable about a wide range of issues in considerable depth, and that he may indeed have a real long-term vision for the country. There is nothing that prepares one better for the Presidency than the actual campaign for the Presidency, as there is no other job like it.

Obama is "scary" to many on the far right because they sense that he indeed is a uniquely gifted politician. He may be a transformative political figure of the kind Clinton held the potential for being, but who unlike Clinton, will be smart enough not to squander his credibility through unprofessional behavior. A successful Obama presidency, combined with the population trends with growing minority populations, will likely result in a fundamental political/electoral realignment. Obama is likely to win a close election in 2008, which could be followed by a landslide in 2012, which could redraw the electoral map and put in place Democratic majorities for a generation or more. This is the 21st-century "New Deal" election.

Posted by: OHIO CITIZEN | September 18, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Palin is an empty suit,media creation in the Obama mold-only to the other extreme of the aisle.Thank god she is not running for the president though where as Bark the Chosen one is-thats scarier if you ask me.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Teflon? I say she is more like glass, easy to see through.


What is troubling about Palin is her severe lack of experience and knowledge. Just today at a rally in Iowa Palin proposed more transparency in the federal government by putting the federal checkbook online. But somebody’s already done it and his name is Barack Obama.

In 2006 and 2007, Obama teamed up with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to pass the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, also known as “Google for Government.” The act created a free, searchable web site – USASpending.gov — that discloses to the public all federal grants, contracts, loans and insurance payments.

Palin really scares me.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 18, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse


PALIN IS AN INVENTED PERSONALITY
....A PHONEY, A FAKE.

GOD HELP AMERICA IF THIS LOONEY BECOMES YOUR PRESIDENT !

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Have you looked at the emails? There was not public business going on in her emails. This is illegal to get hacked, and they should jail these punks.

Posted by: genennene | September 18, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Teflon: Yes, and she deserves it. The Democratic ticket is another loser for America. The panicked liberals epousing in these pages have never been a mayor, or governor; and likely to never get elected to the positions either. "Move ON" to Hollywood with your peers.

Posted by: Bob Raby | September 18, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

It's hard form us common folk to hold a negative opinion of someone we'd like so much to be like. A mom first woman who'd forgo hotels and room service to commute to the job and stay home to cook for her family. A successful self made woman with a husband and and a family she considers, at a minimum, to be as important as the job. Bill Clinton was a guy that brought himself up from a difficult beginning and became our President. He may have done some questionable stuff, but hey haven't we all?

It's hard to think negatively about someone you like so much. The connection Sarah has with the public will remain and we'll keep liking her because she seems so much like us. That doesn't necessarily mean we'll vote for her. We can say "I like her, but I won't vote for her." We'll see what we see in November. For now it's "You go Girl."

Posted by: Norconian | September 18, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Teflon. I would say more like Flubber. She bounces around with her talking points in a sort of folksy way; quoting many different anecdotes on the shape of the economy "Yeah its bad and we will do something about it.", foreign policy "I can see Russia from my house.", etc. There is nothing incorrect in anything she says, but the content is noticeably shallow and banal. Wait until she is pressed for some real facts on her next interview and watch the teflon or flubber or whatever other deflective metaphor fall right off.

Posted by: hayden1 | September 18, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Teflon, or no Teflon, this one should stick:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7623771.stm

Thanks for the honesty, Senator Hagel, although -- what took you so long? But then again, better late than never.

Posted by: Sticky Slicker | September 18, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

HANNITY CAN TREAT HER WITH KID GLOVES. V.P. WILL NOT HAVE THAT EASY OF A TIME WHILE IN OFFICE.

HANNITY IS NOT DOING PALIN ANY GOOD. PLUS HANNITY WAS HELPING PALIN COMPLETE HER SENTENCES. THANKS SEAN, I FOR ONE BELIEVE YOU ARE ENVIOUS OF PALIN. WE WANT BE FOOLED AGAIN HANNITY!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I've voted Republican since 1980. State, local, and national. But there is no way I can support someone stupid enough to use, and then get caught, breaking the law with an easily hacked Yahoo email account:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703304.html?hpid=topnews

The VP, who can become the P in a heartbeat, should not be the primary security threat our nation faces.

Posted by: Reagan4Life | September 18, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I suspect that as long as it is perceived by the public that Palin is being unfairly portrayed - right or wrong - nothing much will tarnish her image except possibly her own gaffes. Unfortunately, the media and the left way over played their hands, Obama looked, for the first time, to be bumblefooted in his response and made the rookie mistake of comparing resumes with the bottom of the opposition's ticket.
One more thing, I worked my way to a four year degree and it only took me seven years - not counting two spent pursuing the wrong field. I paid my own way and worked full time during all but the last semester. Not all that unusual.

Posted by: Clif G | September 18, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Teflon simply another way of saying, "why don't you fools agree with me/us?"

To Joe T.
While I agree with you that Obama is not the man for the job, it is wrong to use the term Fuhrer in reference to him or any other American politician. I walked through one of Hitler's death camps at Dachau back in 1964, studied the Nazi rise to power and therefore understand there's a big difference between being an incompetent phony like Obama and a mass murderer on a scale most of us cannot imagine.

To Anonymous,
Under what rock did you find the "facts" you stated about John McCain while in North Vietnam? Let's see some attribution, if you have any, which I doubt.

Posted by: Bill Baldwin, Jr. | September 18, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Not Teflon -- more like the grill at a diner that over time gets disgustingly greasy and slimy no matter how often they scrape it off.

Posted by: Sarah Palin is Harriett Miers with a nice rack | September 18, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

mcrumi: Chris' question has nothing to do with me or my gayness. The question is about Palin's teflon-ness (sic).

Thanks for proving my point and "showing" more math re: Chris' inquiry.
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And you're about as gay as Tom DeLay (although God only knows about that one...shudder).

Puh-lease!

Posted by: McRUmi | September 18, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I think, she is a phenom for sure, I think ironicly it's being mismanaged. I think that the Republicans are being a little too closed lip with her. They should just face troopergate head on, if there is nothing to hide they shoulden't have anything to worry about. They should also have just quit talking about the bridge to Nowhere - I'm sure there are other reasons for calling her a "Mavrick" like the corrupt people she took out of office. They should have just let the bridge alone. Also she should be speaking more and just be direct about things. They had something that worked organicly, if they would have just let it evolve that way I think she would still have high favorabily ratings, but the tendency of the Right is to controll and use up the organic and the natural occuring resources and try to use it to there advantage as much as possible. The Palin thing was something they tried too hard to controll. I don't think it's going to work in this case.

Posted by: The Sarah thing was mismanaged | September 18, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Someone mentioned that Obama struggled in high school. So have many of us, and some us have gone on to better things. Did the color of his skin result in the portion of his record noted here? Get serious: Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review; he graduated with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991; he taught, in addition to doing other things, constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004. That is, he has an actual record of legal knowledge at the national level. (That it was in "school" makes that all irrelevant, though.)

Posted by: Phillip | September 18, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

No, she's not Teflon - she's Revlon. She is not as she appears on the surface...

Posted by: freedom5 | September 18, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I agree, she has definitie teflon potential. I haven't seen anything like her since Ronald Reagan (The Teflon King). The amount of attacks by the MSM and others (even hacked her email!) on her has been just incredible, BUT yet she maintains a very high approval rating. If Obama had just 1% of the same scrutiny as Palin has gotten, his approval rating would be in single digits.

Posted by: Hillary voter for McCain | September 18, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

No she isn't Teflon coated. It just that all of the stupid and petty smears tried by the WP and the other liberal fascists have been disregarded by Americans. I think for the first time in this election the true fascist nature of the left and its stooges in the MSM is becoming increasingly apparent. The conduct of the left is a combination of leftist lunacy, socialist propaganda and Daley machine thuggery. Today BHO is urging his supporters to get in the faces of those who oppose him. Palin's email has been hacked and the WP and MSM blame her. Just how low is the left ready to go and how much of their intelligence and freedom are they willing to surrender?

The MSM cannot understand why their Furher, a corrupt leftist ward heeler from Chicago, is not way ahead in the polls despite their massive, hypocritical and dishonest election coverage. Intelligent and fair minded Americans though can easily see the obvious difference in how McCain and Palin are treated as opposed to BHO and the Hairplug and Americans just love the underdog. By the way WP is Amtrak Joe paying for those train rides out of his own pocket?

Posted by: Joe T | September 18, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I say she is teflon. Rasmussen, the only pollster who daily tracks Favorables/Unfavorables on each candidate with a signifant sample finds that Palin is still the most popular of the 4 candidates (net approve-disapprove rating). Her "Strongly Approve" rating is an astonishing 40%, higher than both McCain and Obama.

Posted by: Independent voter | September 18, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

At Today's Town Hall Meeting, read this exchage. Someone asked Palin this question:

“Give us some details and examples of your strategies and plan for economic empowerment for women,” she said.

McCain signaled for Palin to answer the question.

“Well first let me take a shot at that, and I’ll tell ya, I’m a product of Title IX in our schools, where equal education and equal opportunities in sports really helped propel me into the—I guess into the position that I’m in today where,” Palin said.

McCain then interjected, “Could I mention she was a point guard on a state championship basketball team.”

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Basketball? A heartbeat away from the presidence... and McCain selects a basketball...

Here, read it yourself!

Source:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/17/politics/fromtheroad/entry4456592.shtml

Posted by: Pissed Off | September 18, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

So long as Sarah Palin remains John McCain's newest eye candy, she has a chance of remaining "teflon." Remember, Ronald Reagan demanded his advisors distill any problem (from nuclear disarmament to funding for a bike trail in a city he visited for a campaign stop) to a one page bullet point memo. He was a million miles broad and two inches deep. But he surrounded himself with great handlers and knew how to play his role to perfection. And kept his mouth shut otherwise.
The recent polls you're referring to have come after her only sit down interviews, where people got a chance to see how painfully unprepared she is for the presidency. This is a woman who had to go to 6 schools in 6 years to find someone to give her a degree, who didn't have a passport until 2007 and thinks being able to see Russia from Alaska qualifies as foreign policy experience. As her own naivete shows in public appearances, people will be more open to give credence to these other negative accounts. The McCain campaign has "jumped the shark" on its claim of honesty and honor -- as Sen. Claire McCaskill said on MSNBC, there can be no honer without honesty. When that message begins to be the narrative, teflon is out the window nad the smokin' hot frying pan will follow shortly.

Posted by: straight talk my a** | September 18, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Will her shine continue through the election is not the same thing as her being Teflon. Reagan and Clinton were eight years of Teflon, not two months. Keeping her shine for the next forty-some days is completely up to her: don't do something that the majority of people see as patently stupid.

The key to being Teflon is having a rabid pack of detractors, maintaining a modicum of competence and seeming reasonable to a majority of people. When people view the attacks as coming from a group that will never recognize anything you do as positive, their attacks are cheered by the choir and ignored by everyone else. Only when the attacks are seen as having merit, mainly when the reasonable majority question her competence or consider her actions too extreme, will the shine, or Teflon, wear off. If they win, then it will only be a matter of time.

Posted by: muD | September 18, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has eepy creepy energy. I think the teflon won't last. Many women are worried about someone as arch right wing as her becoming President. I think women will vote against McCain's VP if anything to keep her from becoming #1 should something happen to McCain. McCain should have picked a moderate centrist like himself to win.

Posted by: ingrid | September 18, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Palin is not teflon. She seems more like Velcro. Her favorability ratings have gone way down as people learn what she's about. Aerial hunting of wolves. Abuse of power and having staff ignore subpoenas. Lying about the Bridge to Nowhere. Nope, she's like flypaper.

Posted by: Beth in VA | September 18, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin IS Teflon!
The United States Environmental Protection Agency's scientific advisory board found in 2005 that perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), a chemical compound used to make Teflon, is a "likely carcinogen."

The Bush Administration has blocked EPA from regulating PFOA.

Sarah Palin, toxic substance protected by Republicans. Teflon!

Posted by: DDS | September 18, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Correction...Bill Baldwin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Bill Barton...Wasn't George Bush supposed to have been a "uniter" too?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?

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John McCain has the ability and integrity to overcome the debilitating partisan atmosphere that has virtually strangled Washington since Clinton's second term.

Barack Obama looks nice in a suit.

Or to put it another way, if your boss said your career was on the line and that you could bring one person into a meeting who would speak for you, and the impression your superior came away with in terms of that person's knowledge, expertise and sincerity would be sole determining factor as to whether you were promoted or fired, who would you choose.....Barack Obama ( no teleprompter allowed) or John McCain?

And if you still aren't quite sure, then crank up the DVD player and treat yourself to a couple of Sunday sermons by Rev. Wright and contemplate spending the last 20 years with your family assets glued to one of Wright's pews. That ought to do it.

Posted by: Bill Baldwin, Jr. | September 18, 2008 2:21 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl..Do you earn more than $250,000.00 a year. If not, don't worry.

What you should worry about is the fact that you will be paying for the Wall St. recovery, which is not finished unraveling yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has the ability and integrity to overcome the debilitating partisan atmosphere that has virtually strangled Washington since Clinton's second term.

Barack Obama looks nice in a suit.

Or to put it another way, if your boss said your career was on the line and that you could bring one person into a meeting who would speak for you, and the impression your superior came away with in terms of that person's knowledge, expertise and sincerity would be sole determining factor as to whether you were promoted or fired, who would you choose.....Barack Obama ( no teleprompter allowed) or John McCain?

And if you still aren't quite sure, then crank up the DVD player and treat yourself to a couple of Sunday sermons by Rev. Wright and contemplate spending the last 20 years with your family assets glued to one of Wright's pews. That ought to do it.

Posted by: Bill Baldwin, Jr. | September 18, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

It's WAY too early to talk about "teflon." It has only been 3 weeks since most Americans first heard of her- and for most of that time, there has been only one narrative from her camp with very little engagement with any potential troublemakers. I suspect that her popularity will wane- it is unlikely there will be any stunning revalations showing her to be a sint,but likely there will be a raft of smaller things which cumulatively will tarnish the shiny finish any new personality has.

Posted by: jhherring | September 18, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I studied through spring break, I have a real degree and a lot to offer. If I want to go to work, even in this economy, I can.

I do not want the lazy, incompetent and useless left-wing liberal arts flunkees who can't find useful work to tax me to take what I have and what I earned, to support their utopia.

If you need a helping hand, take out a student loan, go back to school, and learn how to do something useful this time around, like word processing, computer repair, car mechanics or nursing.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Her teflon melted when I saw the photos of the animals she shot dead for fun. this lady is a human monster. a vote for her is a vote for Jeffrey Dahmer. Palin lost all of the women voters who love animals; who hate Obama, and were going to vote McCain wen they saw those photos.
http://www.vegansoapbox.com/a-closer-look-at-palin/
Obama is lucky McCain picked such a disgusting sub human as his V.P.

Posted by: Pat | September 18, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

The nomination of Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate surprised many, if not most, Americans. Coming on the heels of the Democratic Primaries which saw the possible nomination of Hillary Clinton narrowly defeated by Barack Obama, McCain's choice of a Palin capitalized on the dissapointment of many who supported Sen. Clinton because she is a woman. The excitement of being surprised by the Palin choice, gave many folks an almost adrenaline-like political rush, and created an aura of history-making change, and a coating of Teflon.
Yet as we learn more and more of Palin's history (the attempt to bring censorship to her town's public library, her cronyism in making official appointments, the "Troopergate" investigation, the secrecy of her Administration and attempts to hide her policymaking from the public eye through the use of "private" email accounts used for state business), the Teflon will wear off as we begin to see the blemishes.
Another factor that will surely contribute to the end of her Teflon period, will be how she reacts to the humorous depiction of her. Given her political attitudes and the tightly controlled view of herself that we've been able to glimpse so far, it is very likely that she doesn't know how to laugh at herself. And if the voters can't laugh with her, the voters will laugh at her. A few more appearances by Tina Fey should do the trick . . .

Posted by: daveden | September 18, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

mcrumi: Chris' question has nothing to do with me or my gayness. The question is about Palin's teflon-ness (sic).

Thanks for proving my point and "showing" more math re: Chris' inquiry.

Posted by: gays4palin, west hollywood, ca | September 18, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

TIME TO FIRE YOUR VP MCCAIN, MORE INFO LEAKING OUT TODAY ABOUT THE SARAH PALIN AFFAIR. http://www.hotpres.com

IS PALIN PREGNANT AGAIN??? CAN WE HAVE A PREGNANT VP? http://www.veeppeek.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

>>"If you took a moment and got off your "I HATE OBAMA because I didn't get to go to the Carribean for Spring Break" soapbox (We're on to you, angry girl!)"

MY ORIGINAL POST ABOUT "SPRING BREAK PARTYING LOSERS" FROM AUGUST:

The biggest turn-off to the Democrats this year is all the Jimmy Carter revivalists who, along with Obama, are crying about financial injustice and who want to tax me to support their utopia. What is the big turnoff is that the people in the media, liberal arts and ivory tower left-wing who are the cultural base for Obama are the same people who didn't study in college, who went on spring break, and who took whole weeks off to get involved with boyfriends and girlfriends while in college.

Meanwhile, I was studying day and night, during breaks and had no summers in Europe. Only now, I can make money while Obama netroots on DailyKos whine that they should tax me because: "how can someone with a liberal arts degre get a job in this economy"?

All the useless, feel-good and partying, cool people in college are the same kinds of people pushing Obama now, and sneering down and "low information" blue collar workers, businessmen and small business people. They want to tax the same electricians with six figure small businesses whose butt cracks they laugh at in their condescending way when talking about "Clinton voters", to correct the "social injustice" of their having a hard time getting a job with a liberal arts degree and a C average from a 4th rate state school.

They say when you're young if you have a heart you're a Democrat and if when you get older if you have a brain you become a Republican. Well, I think the transition point comes when you realize that all the people pushing all the perfect-worlder, fatuous social programs politics are the dim-bulb, affected losers who never worked as hard as you did. The ones who are too stupid to realize that with a C-average liberal arts degree from a no-name school they have to be ready to sell insurance, strap on an apron, or carry lumber from place to place to support themselves.
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My "I studied through spring break" post back in August was about how I got somewhere and don't want to be taxed to death to support your useless existences!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Teflon? NO
IF she were truly Teflon, then her 'handlers' would allow her to be interviewed freely, and answer questions freely, and express her opinions freely, and participate in the 'Troopergate' investigation.

It's not about what sticks or does not stick. It's about getting the facts out there so that thinking Americans can choose wisely about the future of our country.

Thank you to the Washington Post for publishing facts about Palin as mayor of Wasilla and governor of Alaska. Keep the facts coming.

Posted by: Kelly | September 18, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Nah.. maybe she was for a little while. She was invincible for the first two weeks, but it looks like that has started to wear off. The voters are getting tired of 'poor me', and they're starting to demand answers. Palin still doesn't seem to be offering them much, and as predicted, her popular support is now starting to fade as a result.

This is bad news for the McCain campaign, which was hoping her star power would carry them through November. For a while, it was looking like it might, but I think the recent market news has broken their spell.

Obama picked the right strategy with regard to Palin -- ignore her until she becomes irrelevant. If he'd gone on the attack, everything he'd said would still be haunting him now, and it would all have been for nothing.

Posted by: Joe | September 18, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

If she wasn't teflon coated when McCain chose her she is now. Thats a direct result of the scurrilous,hysterical and manifestly idiotic attacks on her by Obama's liberal media groupies. They have the collective credibility of telemarketers and the public simply believes nothing that they say.Its as simple as that

Posted by: Jay | September 18, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Any political attack on Sarah Palin is an attack on middle class America.
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If ever there were a facist, totalitarian statement, that would be one.

And a clear revelation of Palindrones and their mind-set.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Gallup just came out and Obama is back up by 4%, now statistically significant. The teflon is gone to the tune of a 10% swing since her selection. The stories are sticking, it's just that the time horizon is so short that her rise and fall are overlapping one another, so the appearance of teflon is more ephemeral than real.

Posted by: JoeT | September 18, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"Our candidate is quite capable of giving an answer. Unfortunately, some (yourself included) want their answers in tidy little soundbites that remove the need to think."

Your candidate is incapable of giving clear answers. If you were able to decode glib pseudo-sophisticated babble, you'd know that.

>>"If you took a moment and got off your "I HATE OBAMA because I didn't get to go to the Carribean for Spring Break" soapbox (We're on to you, angry girl!) and LISTENED, you still won't like what you hear, but at least you'll see that there is an answer being given."

You are some bizarre person to keep dragging up that old statement of mine. Let me remind you what my Spring Break comment was:

I don't want to support economically incompetent losers like the kind of liberal arts flunkees who lurk on dailyKos, who post things like "how can someone with a liberal arts degree get a job in this economy". My response to that was there is no economy in which someone with a c-average liberal arts degree from a 3rd tier college can easily get a job in any economy. I got a real degree, I studied during Spring break, and worked every week of every semester I was enrolled. I'm not working right now, but I get calls every week or so from some recruiter.

Most of the people on dailykos and other Obama supporter sites are the same breed of immature, intellectual incompetent liberal arts student with low averages who can't get real jobs, can't get into grad school and who talk about people like me as being the rich pigs who got life handed to me on a silver platter and I deserved to be taxed so that they can get some boost to their useless existence.

I didn't get a real degree, studying during Spring Break and transferring to better schools whenever I could, so that some halfwit flunkee English major can accuse me of being some wealthy white pig who should be taxed to rectify some social injustice. The crap on dailyKos is even more painful because of how painfully stupid the liberal arts flunkees are on there. In case anyone was wondering where all the non-stellar liberal arts grads go who don't get straight-A's and don't have great talents, they can go straight to dailykos or other liberal blogs where these losers sit in their parents' basements and blog rants about republicans and demand social justice and people who keep them down. If you want to find out how some of those party-hardy students ended up who laughed about cramming for every test every semester, go to those liberal blogs where those slobs are screaming about how the rich are feeding off the poor. They are the same people, talk the same way, and use the same lame thinking as those clique-minded dim bulbs.

I didn't study through my Spring breaks to have my stuff taken away from me to be redistributed to some left-wing liberal arts loser who doesn't have enough personality to sell insurance and doesn't want to strap on an apron or carry lumber from place to place to earn their way in the world.

That is what my "studying through spring break" comment was about. I have what I have because of what I worked to accomplish. I work when I choose to work and I take time off when I choose to do so. And what I have is not for a horde of flunkee left-wing liberal arts losers to take to support their useless existences with.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

The short answer is Yes. Sarah Palin IS Teflon. I thought Hillary will have a good chance in 2012. But if McCain wins, Hillary will face a formidable opponent in Sarah.

Posted by: Hillary voter | September 18, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Any political attack on Sarah Palin is an attack on middle class America. The Democrats want to give us lip serfvice but do notwant usto participate in governing this great nation of which us middle class Americans have built.

America does not need a thugish socialist revolution that uses strong arm tactics to attack their opponents cxharacter, steal their opponent's email accounts and besmirch the families of their opponents.

Posted by: Right-minded Frank | September 18, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"Did Hillary every scrub toilets, cook a meal, mend a curtain...at the same time she pursued a career? No, and neither have the other "talky" TV females who only care about the "glass ceiling" when most women are worrying about keeping a roof over their family's head."-Marilyn

Marilyn...Have you had personal direct contact with either woman and actually watched them do house chores? When did you watch Sarah clean the toilet?
Pure conjecture.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

My example of Palin's teflon is that she obviously does not agree with any objectives of the Gay Rights Movement, but I am voting FOR HER because she is an All American (frontier) Woman. I believe she believes what she is saying. And that is saying a lot about any politician.
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You either about as gay as Dick Cheney or a truly self-loathing homosexual. No other explanation for supporting a woman who believes that homosexuality can be "cured." Nice try.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I believe Obama is smart and charismatic guy but he did show appalling judgment in his unfortunate remark about clinging to guns and religion.

Posted by: Phil R | September 18, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Did Hillary every scrub toilets, cook a meal, mend a curtain...at the same time she pursued a career? No, and neither have the other "talky" TV females who only care about the "glass ceiling" when most women are worrying about keeping a roof over their family's head.

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You are wrong. She did. Many do.

Your blanket and incorrect condemnation only reveals your own ignorance, bitterness and elitism. You think you are better than "they" because you are more "real."

Well, you are not. Scrubbing a toilet is not the indicator of humanity or "realness" and certainly not of political leadership. Tolerance and understanding is. You and Palin lack both.

Pride works both ways.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

When Senator Obama goes on with his litany of lobbyists in the McCain campaign, he fails to mention that he is closely associated with one of the worst: James Johnson, the former Fannie Mae CEO, the guy he selected to oversee his vice presidential vetting process. What hypocrisy! Fannie Mae is the entity blamed for the current world financial crisis. And to make things worse, he got hundreds of thousands in contributions from the failed institution.

The audacity of cynicism!

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com

Posted by: DCfred | September 18, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

As a gay man living in West Hollywood, CA, I know my vote for McCain/Palin doesn't "count" because the 55 electoral votes are going to BxO, but I will now enthusiastically cast my vote for the Republican ticket because of Palin.

My example of Palin's teflon is that she obviously does not agree with any objectives of the Gay Rights Movement, but I am voting FOR HER because she is an All American (frontier) Woman. I believe she believes what she is saying. And that is saying a lot about any politician.

Gay Rights is sixth or seventh on my list of priorities. National Security, Economy and Energy are my top three issues and she and McCain are able to wrap all three together, explaining how they are intertwined AND how each helps secure our nation.

As long as the Dynamic Duo stay on message and the MSM/liberal bloggers continue to lie through their condascending attitude towards Heartland USA via Palin, the room the elephant will be sitting in will be the Oval Office and she'll be wearing cool glasses in a couture skirt/jacket made of teflon.

Thanks and God Bless America!

--gays4palin08

Posted by: gays4palin, west hollywood, ca | September 18, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin is not Teflon. She fires up both the conservative and progressive bases, and she is turning off the majority of independents. The honeymoon is ending.

Posted by: spotfoul | September 18, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

GOVERNMENT TARGETING OF U.S. CITIZENS:
A ROOT CAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis

Posted by: scrivener | September 18, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm an Alaskan. That makes me one of the the 0.2 percent of American's who have lived under a Palin Administration. In the words of the campaign. I've got "experience." At her best Sarah is smart, engaging, and tactically brilliant. At her worst she is mean, snide, and exhibits "faith unemcumbered by fact". She is resilient and extraordinarily driven while possesing has an amazing combination of luck, Q factor, and the ability to throw underlings and friends under the bus when it serves her purposes. Some of the negatives that have been thrown her way are completely untrue, but most have a signficant grain of truth to them. Unfortunately, the untrue just thickens the layer of teflon against the truth. Another importact factor is the consistent iability of a large percentage of voters to put their political leaning aside and actually try to interpret the information coming out of Alaska and to seperate the true and untrue. The greater a percentage of the people that are unwilling to listen to the facts (or sort through them) because it's goes against what they want then the thicker Palin's (or any politicians) teflon coating becomes.

Posted by: Just an Alaskan | September 18, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Woo hoo, Palin gives an answer! "Governor Palin, what are your specific foreign policy credentials?" Palin: "I'm prepared."

sigh.

Posted by: StickAFork | September 18, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I hereby, with great pomp and circumstance, declare AsperGirl the new Pontif of the Holy See!

Hail Pope AsperGirl I!

....Not.

"Negative framing does stick to Michelle Obama because she's ugly in side."

AsperGirl: I strongly suggest you take a very deep look in the mirror and find out who -you- are inside before blithely judging others. You are proof-positive of the conceited nature of the American extreme right.

Hm. I wonder if the 'Asper' here stats for Aspergers' Syndrome...that'd explain a lot.

Posted by: Vatican Official Kaz | September 18, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Teflon accrues, it's not pre-existing. You get more the better you do in crises, and as people become more accustomed to cutting you slack. Palin burst upon the scene with chirpy one-liners, delivered a great speech, and changed the campaign narrative. But her charm is slipping--she has proven herself incapable of admitting the truth on the Bridge to nowhere, despite being called on it by such non-liberals as Karl Rove, David Brooks, and the Wall St Journal. She tells meaningless lies--the failing teleprompter story, which was easily debunked; the strong immediate yes response to the VP job offer has now morphed into a carefully considered family decision; the battle against earmarks when her requests for same routinely reach the 200 million mark. Her interview with Gibson showcased her shallow grasp of foreign and domestic policy. The Troopergate investigation threatens to reveal the same kind of executive abuse that the current administration has practiced--thus the McCain campaign wants it shut down totally or at least until the election is over. The people who demanded investigations into all things Clinton, even Christmas card lists are now braying about the politization of investigations. Whatever she might have HAD--it seems to be peeling off layer by layer.

Posted by: bklyndan | September 18, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Do the math, huh? Well, it goes like this:
100% of real woman plus 100% of real woman equals 200% of real woman.
As a newspaper reporter in the early years of the so-called "women's movement", it was hard (and still is hard) for me as an average, educated woman to identify with the leaders of this effort because they live lives so unlike a real woman. Did Hillary every scrub toilets, cook a meal, mend a curtain...at the same time she pursued a career? No, and neither have the other "talky" TV females who only care about the "glass ceiling" when most women are worrying about keeping a roof over their family's head.
Sarah Palin doesn't just talk, she gets it done. Family AND career - yes, it is possible. So the criticism should flake off her Teflon hide, she represents the women's movement better than any other female in politics today.

Posted by: Marilyn Adams | September 18, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

"Top Republican says Palin unready

Senator Chuck Hagel could be influential with independent voters
Senior Republican Senator Chuck Hagel has voiced doubts about Sarah Palin's qualifications for the vice-presidency.

John McCain's running mate "doesn't have any foreign policy credentials", Mr Hagel told the Omaha World-Herald.

Mr Hagel was a prominent supporter of Mr McCain during his 2000 bid for the US presidency, but has declined to endorse either candidate this year.

He was opposed to the Iraq War, and recently joined Mr McCain's rival Barack Obama on a Middle East trip." BBC

Posted by: WHAT TEFLON? | September 18, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

If Palin is "teflon" it will because the media makes her so. The more shrill the attacks by the main stream press, the more one sided the debate becomes by a press that decries her lack of experience while praising Obama's, the more attacks on her family while they ignore others, the more "teflon" she becomes. Americans are basically a fair people and the more unfair the "balance" in the media becomes, the more the attacks, valid or not, will be ignored.

Posted by: Teflon Bill | September 18, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Well said Espi. Thanks.

Posted by: crux | September 18, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Just an observation, but when your most vocal supporter is Aspergirl, I'd say you're not teflon -- more like a cast iron skillet.

Posted by: Toodles | September 18, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Forums and participants in forums like this are a snap shot of everything that is "wrong" with our Nation.....
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And then you proceed to spout the Repub talking points and pan the Dems. LOL. From your own words, you are obviously another major virus in our national disease. Physician, heal thyself!

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

You can put Teflon on a pig ....

Posted by: FoolintheHoller | September 18, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The woman may have Teflon, Pyrex and Corning Ware all at once, but she has entirely too much drama and unresolved baggage as well. ...To much of a small-town bully... She has no business being considered for Vice President and President of the Senate all at once. IMHO.

Posted by: aaldea | September 18, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Teflon? Nah, just plastic.

Posted by: tom | September 18, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Forums and participants in forums like this are a snap shot of everything that is "wrong" with our Nation.

"Liar! Scum! Nazi! Homophobe! Right Wing! Racist! Socialist! Class War! and etc"

These have become the "talking points" of partisan ideals among VOTERS.

Luckily, it's not the HARDCORE Liberals or the HARDCORE Conservatives that decide elections in this country.

It's the people that think BOTH sides are completely insane that decide the elections.

So, while we all sit here and scream at each other via keyboard (which is in itself absurd) the Candidates are fighting for the Middle Ground.

Governor Palin, certainly is not teflon, she has flaws. Though she is holding up remarkably well under the circumstances.

If the question is "Will Palin help the McCain campaign more than Biden helps the Obama campaign?" The answer (to any reasonable observer) is "yes". Simply because Biden is a non-factor (fundraising and public attention wise) comparatively speaking to Palin.

I would estimate that for every "I was going to vote for McCain, but then he picked Palin, so I'm voting for Obama." voter in America, there are 4 or even 5 "I wasn't sure who I was going to vote for, or if I was even going to vote at all, but I'm taking a second look at McCain now." voters out there.

So what does that mean?

We'll some polls suggest that 10 to 15 percent of the voters that are likely or somewhat likely to vote are undecided.

Let's take the lower number (10 percent).

Estimates are that 110 to 120 million voters will particpate this year.

So there are 10 or 12 million "undecideds" out there, if the polls are correct.

If McCain COST himself 1.2 million votes by selecting Palin, he stands to POSSIBLY gain double or triple that with the selection of Palin.

I'm not talking about "Hillary" supporters either. I would be shocked if more than a fraction of them voted for McCain/Palin. Maybe a few hundred thousand as a "protest", but McCain was NEVER targeting those voters (no matter what the commenators say) when he selected Palin.

He's going after the voters (men and women) that were ready to sit this one out (for whatever reason) and trying to dip into the pool of "unlikely" voters by getting them to pay attention.

It's probably working. America is (in general) a place where fairness still matters. I can't say that the Media attention on Governor Palin has been "fair". Again, I don't think any reasonable (non-partisan) observer would say that it was remotely fair.

And there's the rub. The more frantic the attacks and attempts to discredit Governor Palin have been, the more people "tune in".

40 million viewers for a Vice-Presidential acceptance speech? Absurd. Unheard of. "Game Changing."

At the end of the day, she'll stay on the ticket, she'll smile and take the shots thrown her way. She probably won't do anything completely embarassing or disqualifying and she'll "weather" the storm.

For every "rumor" about her past that turns out to be false. For every snide attack about her background or the number of children she has. For every comment like the one posted above with things like "maybe that's why her son twig is a retard". She'll stand a FRACTION taller in the publics mind.

You know how Clinton and Reagan became "teflon"? It's not something you're born with, it's nothing a politician can "have" naturally.

It's resiliance. The public gets tired of people with agendas screaming "Wolf, Wolf, WOLF!" at the top of their lungs only to find the substance of the cry is less than what was made out. The next series of attacks are less effective (even as the shrillness increases), and the next is even less and etc and etc. When it's all said and done, America knows that no one is perfect. No one shares ALL their ideals. No one can "fix" everything regardless of his/her promise.

What they expect is character. What demonstrates character better than standing in the middle of a blizzard naked to the World (which is what running for office is now, every tiny flaw exposed, every dirty secret aired) and saying "I can deal with this, because the PEOPLE matter the most and I want to serve the people."

Agree with Republicans or agree with the Democrats, if you're honest, you have to admit that the more someone is attacked (without a "real" scandal behind it) the more the public is inclined to cut the person being attacked "a break".

Unless I'm mistaken, Hillary Clinton's "favorables" went up substantially the longer the primary campaign went on. The longer she held in there against the "Why doesn't she quit?" chorus and the attacks of her opponent, the better people "liked" her on some fundamental level.

The Liberals and Democratic Party should be careful here. Palin isn't "teflon" yet, but if there is an effort to destroy her credibility and no COMPELLING case is made (criminal acts, crystal clear abuses of power, etc.) she may get that "teflon" status.

So even if Obama wins this fall, he may "lose" in the larger sense because if they TRY to destroy Palin and fail, she'll be back in 2012 with the entire established Right behind her (and tons of money) and the swing voters will say:

"Wow, she took all that when she ran for VP and they couldn't break her. Heck, look at that, she waded through that mess and is BACK, saying she wants to lead the government by serving the people. Hey, I'll vote for that because that's what our elected officials are supposed to do."

In this day and age, if you try to knock down someone in the other party you had better knock them OUT, because overall the American people want a fair shake and one sided destruction doesn't sit well on Main Street. McCain is unlikely to win the Presidency at this point, but Sarah Palin will (most likely) emerge from the battle stronger, wiser and with unbeatable favorables.

Just my view.

Posted by: just a voter | September 18, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Things don't stick well to Palin because the negatives being thrown at her are false. It's hard to tag someone with negatives when they are good people inside.

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Ah! Finally, AsperGirl reveals herself. She's God! Yes, she knows exactly what we all are "inside." No more waiting for that second coming! She's already here! I'm so relieved!

Asper, you make Obama look positively groveling in humility. You give new meaning to "hypocrisy."

Pontificate on!

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous said, "As a black woman, I am torn between voting my skin color and voting my genitals."

Leave your genitals alone and vote your brain, baby. Or else we all get screwed.

Posted by: Think Tanker | September 18, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl writes: at least she gives a response!
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Huh. Like this, at the town hall meeting?

Question “Gov. Palin, there has been quite a bit of discussion about your perceived lack of foreign policy experience, and I want to give you your chance,” the questioner said. “If you could please respond to that criticism and give us SPECIFIC SKILLS that you think you have to bring to the White House to rebut that or mitigate that concern.”

Answer: “As for foreign policy, you know, I think that I am prepared,’’ Ms. Palin said at an enthusiastic town-hall-style meeting she held alongside Mr. McCain. “And I know that on Jan. 20, if we are so blessed as to be sworn into office as your president and vice president, certainly we’ll be ready. I’ll be ready. I have that confidence. I have that readiness. And if you want specifics with specific policy, or countries, go ahead and you can ask me. You can even play stump the candidate, if you want to.’’

But before anyone could take her up on the offer, Mr. McCain stepped in to praise Ms. Palin’s qualifications, saying that she understands energy issues.
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So I guess in your world aspergirl, that's answer the question. Except she didn't. And never does. Why? because she CAN'T.

At least she's not saying she can see Russia from Alaska anymore.

Good god.

Posted by: Monk | September 18, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Much worse than mere teflon: Sarah Palin is the *devil*. And i didnt even believe in the devil until she convinced me otherwise. And if anyone in the audience has a better scientific explanation, the pls enlighten us.

Posted by: Anna P | September 18, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, no longer trust the polls, as I believe that many organizations use methodologies that skew the data to fit their point of view. Obama had 500,000 new donors to his campaign in August and when last I looked Democrats had a huge lead in voter registrations - to the tune of 11 million new registered voters and that effort is still in full swing. I think we can safely argue that pollsters have yet to receive this information so it’s unlikely that these individuals will be included in polling data for this November’s election. Then there’s the landline vs. cell phone issue – I have yet to decide whether I think this is relevant as I have read differing opinions on this subject.

Palin may have reinvigorated the base but I feel Independents and Moderates are uncomfortable with her extreme views and believe that she’s too inexperienced to step in for McCain should something happen to him while he’s in office. I also feel that many voters don’t pay attention until a couple of weeks prior to the election, so I think the vetting process is far from complete.

Based on my views regarding the polls, the mood of the country, Bush and the Republican Party’s favorability ratings, the fact that the electorate’s number one concern is currently the economy, and that Palin doesn’t possess the oratory skills of Clinton or Reagan, I believe that Obama’s going to win this thing with huge numbers.

However, always the pragmatist, with news cycles being what they are and the fact that the electorate has the attention span of gnats, a lot can happen in the next few weeks that may completely turn this election on end.

Posted by: rkrenke | September 18, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Those two individuals you mentioned had another characteristic that I think Gov. Palin should have - they were president. People loved them (understandably with Reagan, less so with Clinton) and didn't care about perceived personality flaws. Gov. Palin seems to have the same connection with voters. That's why I don't want her to be the VP, I want her to be the president. I'm going to write her in instead of voting for McCain. She might not win, but it might launch her to the White House in 2012. That's what happened with Ronald Reagan in 1976 - the write in votes he took from Gerald Ford sent him to victory in 1980.

Posted by: Angela from NH | September 18, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The only teflon coating Palin has is the one the MSM is giving her by discussing moose burgers instead of these facts:

*She has no experience. Mayor of a 5000 pop town and rookine governor is not eough experience. Obama has decades of legislative experience and sits on the Senate foreign relations commitee, and has sponsored over a hundred bils in his legislative career.

*Is under investigation in the midst of an Alaska State Constitutional crisis she caused by ordering the State atty general not to cooperate with the Alaska legislature in the investigation over the illegal firing of state employees she personally didn't like, over the illegal use of non gov't email for official business, and for sharing priveledged documents illegally with her unelected husband who is not cleared for such duty, nor is he on the gov't payroll.

*She believes women who are raped must be forced to have the child.

*She appointeda stay-at-home mom who's only stated qualification for an environmental position on her resume was "I've loved cows since I was a little girl" to Alaska's top environmental position.

*Her campaign advisors are the Bush team that insists the executive is above the law, and have precipitated the Alaska State consitutional crisis.

*She has ZERO foreign policy experience

*Her husband was a mamber of the US hating, secessionist Alaska First Party (AKIP) from 1995 -2002 when Palin first started running for office. Palin video taped an official welcoming address to the AKIP party convention. Why would a sitting US Governor be playing footsie with a secessionist political party? Why would her family be former members of such a wack-o group?

WHEN THE MSM STARTS DISCUSSING THESE IMPORTANT AND WEIGHTY ISSUES INSTEAD OF THE MODEL OF HER EYEGLASSES THE TEFLON COMES OFF.

But of course you guys are far more interested in a "hot candidate" than the vapid brain said candidate owns, or the reality that her policies, past history, current serious legal troubles, and personal beliefs are DANGEROUS FOR AMERICANS

So are you gonna discuss the hard reality? ...or are we back to moose burgers?

Just remember you'll be the laughing stocks of journalism if you don't discuss REALITY.

Posted by: REALITY | September 18, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse


Teflon?

Oops.
--Is Hurricane Sarah a spent force? Latest opinion polls suggest that the boost to the Republican campaign that came two weeks ago with the surprise announcement of Governor Sarah Palin as John McCain's vice-presidential pick has all but disappeared.

Oops.

--Obama Regains Lead in Latest Quinnipiac Poll
Easha Anand reports on the presidential race.

Barack Obama is back where he was a month ago, a new poll by Quinnipiac University finds, leading John McCain by four points, 49%-45%, just outside the poll’s margin of error.

Oops.

--Republican presidential nominee John McCain's post-convention bounce appears to be fading as the presidential campaigns settle into the final stretch before the Nov. 4 election, according to the latest round of national polls.

Oops.
--Despite an effort to distance himself from the way his party has done business in Washington, Sen. John McCain is seen by voters as less likely to bring change to Washington than Sen. Barack Obama.

McCain is widely viewed as a "typical Republican" who would continue or expand President Bush's policies, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.


Posted by: Monk | September 18, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl Wrote>> At least she gives an answer! Your candidate is incapable of that.

Our candidate is quite capable of giving an answer. Unfortunately, some (yourself included) want their answers in tidy little soundbites that remove the need to think. More than a three syllable answer and you get confused. If you took a moment and got off your "I HATE OBAMA because I didn't get to go to the Carribean for Spring Break" soapbox (We're on to you, angry girl!) and LISTENED, you still won't like what you hear, but at least you'll see that there is an answer being given.

Now, off to your therapist, you angry little girl!

Posted by: Aspergirl = Poster Child for Psychoanalysis | September 18, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm a former Republican who considers himself an Independent. I like Senator McCain, but I'm very concerned with Governor Palin. It is very possible that Senator McCain may not last the first four years and she may become our President. This is something the country cannot possibly risk.

I think the novelty of her selection will wear off as the weeks pass by. The serious concerns raised by Senator Hagel and Senator Chafee will begin to raise questions with the Independents and more moderate Republicans.

In the end, reasonable and concerned Americans will realize the threat her lack of preparation poses to our executive institution and either chose not to vote or to vote for the Obama/Biden.

Times are to tough to elect someone like Gov. Palin.

Posted by: US Navy | September 18, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Not Teflon. The bloom is off the rose. Interviews and focus groups with suburban women show concern for her lack of depth as possible sucessor to a not very healthy looking 72 year old.

Posted by: sabta | September 18, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Most definitely not teflon. Think about it. While a lot of people view her character favorably (she's definitely popular, definitely has personality), she's still being thoroughly challenged by the electorate and the media regarding her competency. People thinking she is 'nice' isn't going to win her ticket the election. People are seeing how she has run Alaska with her opaque governing style, and now they are witnessing here repeated gaffes when asked to speak extemporaneously.

Someone who has held the largely ineffectual position of commander of the state national guard/reserve is not in a position to make the claim that they have the foreign policy experience to defend a nation.

Her numbers are beginning to slip in conjunction with the new town halls, her repeated evasion of press interviews and when she DOES submit to one, (Read, Charlie Gibson), the results are highly unfavorable. The honeymoon's over now that she's not being led by a scripted set of remarks.

Posted by: Kaz | September 18, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin lies too easily... that's extremely troubling...

besides, a lying Christian is an oxy-MORON

Posted by: nerakami | September 18, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Is Sarah Palin teflon coated? No, not really, just human and naturally able to commnicate without the usual political "speak". She shows herself and is accessible so negatives are more understandable by ordinary people if not the press, who are constantly looking for a gottcha to enhanse their ratings and careers. The press must think we are stupid to accept all the negative and sexist so-called reporting done on Palin and her family compared to the reverence shown the Democratic candidate. It makes us pretty skeptical of those negatives about Palin that the press are relentlessly and unprofessionally "reporting".

Posted by: Kate | September 18, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

With the financial world crumbling around us, does Palin even matter anymore?

Posted by: LPLT | September 18, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public.

-- H.L. Mencken

Posted by: incredulous | September 18, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's popularity is mainly due to her feisty nature and never say die frontier spirit. She is no quitter. The gilded "ladies" from big media are her harshest critics (these very same Maureen Dowd, Gail Collins, et al hounded Hillary and cooed at Obama) who are far removed from the world of the ordinary white working class families particularly those from small town America.

It is clear this is no Republican - Democrat divide. To women journos, Sarah Palin evokes the worst insecurities. In contrast to their dismal family lives and high living life styles sustained through artificial glamor, Sarah Palin has shown how a woman of substance with guts can take on well entrenched politicos from her own party and succeed. Her approval rating of 80% is the highest for any Governor in the US.

Why did no long lasting damage afflict Reagan and Clinton? Because they had the uncanny ability to connect with ordinary people, identify with their aspirations and run fairly efficient administrations. Sarah Palin has the same ability!

In contrast Obama is an elitist who looks down upon ordinary folks and has shown contempt for their lives. His supercilious comment about "folks clinging to their guns and religion as they are bitter" says it all! He is no teflon jack for sure!

Posted by: Espi | September 18, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Many people in this thread are very uniformed. Palin has been trashed by the main stream media, the nuts on the left on the internet, and all their lies have been debunked. Go to newsbusters.org, or factcheck.org to learn the real truth. Be seekers of truth. Many of you have weak minds. McCain/Palin is our best choice for real change and real reform. McCain has proved it through the years, Obama has not.

Posted by: hawaiirod | September 18, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin proved yesterday in the town hall that she is clueless about national security. Let me qualify my response for a moment. As much as the argument has been that Obama has no direct experience, he is well studied. She wasn't at minimum that. What is going to happen when McCain is not there to answer for her. Even he didnt say what the qualifications were. Beening the head of the national guard is not it. Sorry dude!!! I think that really came through. The questions will get tougher and it will become CLEARER that she doesnt help him. All women can hear and her inability to answer such a basic question wont go over well with women.

Posted by: golfgurl | September 18, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

The alternative to Sarah in the Naval Conservatory is Michelle in the White House. In terms of likability, I think that's enough said.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse


Does anyone on here care in the least that Palin had lied again and again and again about a variety of subjects, with no qualms whatsoever? Repeat. Do. You. Care?

Posted by: Incredulous | September 18, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

No one of sound mind considers Sean Hannity a journalist. He's a talking head who receives his talking points daily and never steps away from the Republican message.

He makes good money spouting the propaganda. I doubt even he believes half of the nonsense he is given to sell to the American public.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

If the media would start showing the same number of clips from speeches for Joe Biden as they do for Sarah Palin, you'd see her teflon start to wear off.

But for some reason YOU seem to think SHE's newsworthy every single day for every screechy word that comes out of her mouth.

Quit being so fascinated by her and start covering both campaigns equally.

Posted by: And a pit bull would make a better Vice President, too. That's TWO things. | September 18, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

>>Monk wrote: "Does any of you stepford republicans care that the woman is lying through her teeth. That she continues to offer as her only insight into foreign policy that "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska!""

Yeah, and you have a candidate who loads up every answer to every Q with so much equivocating verbiage that he fails to give a straight answer on anything. does he think the surge failed or succeeded? We still don't know! When does he think a baby acquires rights? We don't know because "Mr. Constitutional Law Lecturer" says that having an opinion is above his "pay grade".

At least she gives an answer! Your candidate is incapable of that.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and a hockey mom?

PitbullBS.

I like this site for the irreverent way they knock down all the Palin myths: http://tunc.biz/Race%20For%20President.htm

Or as Republican Chuck Hagel said today: "I think they [McCain-Palin] ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia. That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."

Posted by: Arianna | September 18, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie?
In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie?
In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie?
In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie? In what respect Charlie?
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!
The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks! The Bridge to Nowhere, thanks but no Thanks!

Somebody, anybody, check her batteries now!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/palins-bridge-to-nowhere_n_127423.html

Posted by: Andrea D | September 18, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse


It just goes to show you that these republicans don't care about the country, only if their candidate wins.

The country is hurtling toward ruin and they like her because she's a hockey mom! She's spunk! Good god. They deserve what they get.

Check this out from the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/palins-bridge-to-nowhere_n_127423.html

Text:
Hey, you know that speech Sarah Palin gave at the Republican National Convention? That she kept on giving, over and over again, every time a camera alit on her visage these past two weeks? There was a time that I thought the cable news networks were never going to stop giving that same speech wall-to-wall coverage, every single day. But then, two days ago, while Palin was giving the speech, one by one, the networks dropped coverage! And that's when I realized -- I NEEDED THAT PALIN SPEECH. Needed it like a junkie needs his fix. I just had to have a daily taste of those eerily uniformly intoned Palinisms. Well, our in-house pranksters at 23/6 have come to my rescue with this video, which will allow everyone to have a daily -- if not MINUTELY -- dose of Palin saying "thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere ... thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere ... thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere ... thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere ..."

Now, I just want someone to do the same with that "I put it on eBay" line, and I'll be able to sleep tonight.--------

Except she DIDN'T say "thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere," she DIDN'T say "thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere,"she DIDN'T say "thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere."

Posted by: Incredulous | September 18, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

One cannot answer the question "Is Palin Teflon?". It is like answering the question, "Should you build a house with a green hammer or a red hammer?" To answer that question is to accept a false reality where such a question is relevant.

Gov. Palin is NOT the top of the ticket. The McCain campaign wants it to look like she is, but as will become clearer as the debates occur, she's not. This is a choice between Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain, and that's how the election will be decided.
Do not waste even one second wondering whether the vice presidential nominee is "Teflon". Who cares?

Posted by: howlless | September 18, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Things don't stick well to Palin because the negatives being thrown at her are false. It's hard to tag someone with negatives when they are good people inside.

Negative framing does stick to Michelle Obama because she's ugly in side. It's hard to avoid being smeared when you're a bad person.

Michelle Obama puts on ropes of pearls and acts privileged, but she went around saying ugly things like "Americans cynical, slobs and downright mean". It's not hard to tag that person with the "Mrs. Grievance" label because under her affected elegant surface, she's been ugly.

Palin was being bashed for mocking Obama in a critical way, but she was basically fully of wit and funny when she said it. So it's hard to tag her as "mean". Obama supporters can make fun of her accent, her provincial hair style, the hunting & her family & other surface stuff, but the substance of her is not ugly like Michelle Obama is ugly under her pearls & designer dresses is ugly.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Most of the media need to stop being pansies for Rick Davis. The polls don't take certain things into consideration anyway. Obama will win by a landslide. McCain is on the defense because he was branded as a liar along with his parter Palin. Karl Rove knew the "liar brand" was sticking to Palin and McCain and started pandering to you guys, the media and you took the bait. Now he and Rick wants the controlled focus back on Palin.
You guys take Americans for granted and you think there're stupid. The biggest protest thus far against any candidate was held in Alaska. Women, demos and repubs came out against Palin and BBC had the story before any network or news paper. An NBC affiliate KTUU in Alaska did the story and it wasn't even shown on the NBC network. You can't believe everything on the internet but I thank God for it. It fills in the blanks while you guys spend valuabe resources on lipstick and pigs.
The "Liar Brand" on Palin- McCain is working because they earned it. Rick and Rove like to throw "flash bang grenades" at the press. BOOM! I feel one now. BOOM! Someone (I wonder who?) supposely hack Palins's email. Come on Rick and Rove you've got to do better than that.
10 to 1 the hacked emails aren't worth anything.

Posted by: The Lying Game. | September 18, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Nowhere in that post is the word "Republican".

With all the other inferences, it wasn't necessary. Taking lessons from McCain?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

"I no longer use teflon. Folks are supposed to use it with plastic, soft, cheap looking utensils to preserve the finish -- never treat it with anything harsh, like steel utensils, because the teflon peels off and exposes the cheap pot underneath. It not only looks ugly, but it isn't usable -- everthing sticks. Have to eventually throw it out."

This is one of the best analogies Ive ever seen!

Posted by: sbjones8 | September 18, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Does any of you stepford republicans care that the woman is lying through her teeth. That she continues to offer as her only insight into foreign policy that "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska!"

Even a republican calls this "insulting" to the American people: "I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people," said Chuck Hagel,
a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Can you imagine if Palin actually became president? She would command ZERO respect.

My god.

This reminds me of the dimwits who voted for George Bush because he's the guy you'd rather "have a beer with."

Have we learned NOTHING?

Posted by: Monk | September 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Robin | September 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

DickeyFuller wrote:
"Too bad that the Washington Post didn't spend 1/10 of the time they've spent investigating Palin in the last 2 weeks, on vetting The Annointed One over the course of the past 16 months. Get real people. Obama is the one who's teflon.
I still can't figure out what you people see in him."

The difference of time "vetting", as you call him, The Annointed One, is that Senator Obama has been in the public eye, and has participated in numerous primaries (as have Senators McCain, Clinton, and Biden, Govenors Huckabee and Romney, and others); the public saw their records and voted for or against them over an extended period of time. Governor Palin, on the other hand, was hand selected and announced as Senator McCain's choice with little time before the convention, and with little time for the American public, the voting public, to find out what they might think is essential, more so than in many other elections, because Senator McCain is older than other presidential candidates, he has a medical history of significance, and the public record - including that of "experience" (a determining criteria according to Senator McCain) is limited. We, the public, are being asked to select as the first in line to the Presidency, a person leading a relatively unpopulated state, with limited breath of responsibility, someone who's primary experience is as mayor of a city smaller than many communities or housing projects in other cities, the major of a city smaller than many minor league ball parks.

I don't have any problem with thinking that she needs to be vetted quickly and in depth. The others have over a long period of time; we don't have the luxury of a long period of time for her to be vetted, let alone completely vetted (beyond the three hour and 70 item questionaire she provided to Senator McCain's vetting team, virtually immediately before she was announced as the candidate).

Posted by: Washingtonian | September 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

After watching Fox's Hannity interview with Palin, every real journalist ought to be upset.
I think all Journalist need to go to school and be licensed. This has to be the worst year for the National Press whose only questions to Palin is about Palin-Tina Fey look alike contest.

After the campaign is over the media jerks are going to question themselves at a roundtable, maybe at the National Press Club and talk about how they were used and abused by Rick Davis and Karl Rove.
"Lipstick And Pigs" Press Corps Conference"

Posted by: Journalist should be licensed | September 18, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

NBC ran a story on the evening news yesterday (and repeated it on the "Today" show this morning) debunking the stories Sarah Palin has been telling. Bridge to Nowhere? She killed it only after Congress did, she kept the money, and she still has bridge proposals to the same town using federal earmarks. Visited Iraq? The Alaska National Guard says she didn't cross the border from Kuwait. Visited Ireland? Not if you don't count a refueling stop at the airport. Overseeing her state's production of 20% of the nation's energy? Actually, 3.5%. The mainstream media is getting around to these "reality checks." On "Today," Meredith Vieira pressed Bill Bennett about Palin's trustworthiness and qualifications. The objective truth is finally coming out, and the novelty is wearing off.

Posted by: Tom | September 18, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

There is no Teflon durable enough to prevent stick if you are a candidate with a (R) before your name.

(R) Bush
(R) McCain
(R) Palin

Shame on you Bush, shame!

Posted by: alan | September 18, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Nowhere in that post is the word "Republican".

Posted by: crux | September 18, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I've voted Republican since 1980. State, local, and national. But there is no way I can support someone stupid enough to use, and then get caught, breaking the law with an easily hacked Yahoo email account:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703304.html?hpid=topnews

The VP, who can become the P in a heartbeat, should not be the primary security threat our nation faces.

Posted by: Reagan4Life | September 18, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Wren, the only thing interesting about Sarah Palen is the reason she was chosen and the fact that she was something new and unknown to most. She wasn't McCain's first choice for VP, and it's becoming clear as to why he would rather have had Lieberman.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

BTW, when's her daughter getting married? Or was that just window dressing for the conservative masses. It's a lot different than in Sarah's day when she had to elope.

Posted by: trustynailz | September 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

ziggy1 writes: "I hope Obama gets elected so the left wing media scum can suffer like the rest of us."

Um, have you looked at what's happened the last month? Record budget deficit, skyrocketing unemployment, misery index off the charts, and now, black monday,

Topping that off were the failures of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, and AIG, as well as new worries over Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. "What we are witnessing may be the greatest destruction of financial wealth that the world has ever seen -- paper losses measured in the trillions of dollars," writes the Washington Post's Steven Pearlstein today

And you want four more years of Republican "leadership?" The country is plunging down the road to ruin. And you want more of the same.

Incredible.

I suppose we'll see you, toothless, in the bread line, saying how glad you are another republican is in office.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Monk | September 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

We are not so easily manipulated?

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LOL. Palin's been manipulating us all along.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

HA HA

Posted by: AYC | September 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin is teflon and will be through election day. Her must powerful emotional resonance is as a mom and small town American. Both moms and small town Americans have powerful memes centered around not being given created for their accomplishments by either an old boys network or coastal/urban elitist respectively. For any voter who identifies with Palin these memes allow an easy means of deflecting both valid and invalid criticisms as just another example of the old boys club or coastal/urban elitist trying to put down women and Middle America. Palin also has handled herself with a great deal of skill (much like Reagan and Clinton) in preventing the various criticisms of her from gaining traction by keeping her cool and focusing on voters while everyone else is focusing on her.

Posted by: jw | September 18, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Its probably not just Governor Palin who seems to shed negative information like a duck sheds water; the contrast between image and reality is just a little more obvious in her case. Politics has become so divisive that many partisans (on either side) will ignore all the warts, once they have decided that a particular politician is "on their side". This lack of intellectual honesty, as we elect government officials, can only be harmful to our nation.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | September 18, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

chrisd is gay

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"An important poll shows Obama up significantly and winning with white women."
Please either:
1) provide source
2) share with us some of whatever drugs you are taking
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http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Sep08b-Elec.pdf

page 3

White Women:

10/17 (post Palin interview):
Obama 47% McCain 45%

from:

09/03 (post Palin choice):
Obama 34% McCain 53%


Women came, saw and rejected.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

As a black woman, I am torn between voting my skin color and voting my genitals.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is no Dwight Eisenhower any more than Sarah Palin is the caliber of Margaret Thatcher so if she proves to be 'Teflon’ coated, it would only go along way to certify the intellect or lack thereof of her supporters. What she and McCain are proposing, until the last few days, is the same, the same mistakes that Herbert Hoover did to worsen the effect of 'the great depression' of the 1930's. How many times does one have to hit their thumb with a hammer to conclude, yes, it really does damage and hurt?

Posted by: Thinking Analyst | September 18, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, I've read through these comments, and all I have to say is that, although there are many thoughtful posts, an awful lot of them are just pathetic, no matter whose side you're on.

Grow up! If you don't have anything but insults to contribute, please don't bother.

Posted by: chrisd | September 18, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Teflon? No. Kevlar, yes.

She's a water walker. No question 'bout that!

Short of a sex scandal, the Republican base will back her to hell and back.

She's passed the evangelical test: She's pro-Life.

She passed the Bush Doctrine test: She doesn't know what it is but she believes Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

What takes the cake is, journalists are unwilling to take her on.

That includes Charlie Gibson and 60 Minutes.

So, what else is there?

Posted by: Butterfly | September 18, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

She can do the laundry for The Chosen One.

Posted by: Bill | September 18, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Drill, Baby, Drill!"

Boy, you can say that again.

Because nutty boy and the Zero are getting drilled in the polls.

Baby.

Posted by: DrillBabyDrill | September 18, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is showing all the traits of a teflon-coated politician. I wish it weren't so.

Today in North Carolina, Michelle Obama discussed issues including the economic and health care challenges facing families at a much greater depth than either McCain or Palin have to date. Throughout the audience Q&A she referenced specific policy positions, their implications for working families and never once attacked or went negative on McCain/Palin. Further, she encouraged voters to read each of the candidates postions, think about what is important to them and then get out and VOTE.

Her depth of knowledge is impressive and as a potential first lady Michelle Obama is demonstrating a much greater grasp of the issues than either McCain or Palin.

Posted by: NW Reader | September 18, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Whether you are a democrat or republican, there is something fascinating about this woman. I've been trying to put my finger on what attracts people to her and here are some of my thoughts. I've listened to interviews with friends, family, voters of Alaska and Palin herself. It wouldn't be enough to be attractive to explain her popularity. The attributes that I keep hearing subscribed to her are smart, energetic, down to earth (humble), sincere and driven. It's interesting that even while she is running for Vice President, she continues at evey opportunity to advance the State of Alaska. It makes me feel that she takes her oath of office very seriously. I also think that if she is elected Vice President, that she will do everything in her power to do the best she can for America. I think that this is the real secret to Sarah Palin. She is passionate about making government for the PEOPLE and that means all the people from the Harvard educated to the regular lovable blue collar workers. She's also a tough fighter with the confidence to not let the powerful stop her from doing what is in the best interests of the PEOPLE. For those of us who feel that Washington has let us down for years and years and looked after their own interests instead of the PEOPLE'S interests, she brings hope that she just might make a difference. She also has a David fighting Goliath quality. Americans love the underdog succeeding. She doesn't claim to be any better than anyone else. She doesn't use her position to gain riches or fame. She sees herself as a servant of the PEOPLE. And we believe her because she lives her values in her actions. I believe that Sarah Palin is grounded, smart and a quck learner and her heart is in the right place. I don't agree with all her positions, but I understand why she has those beliefs and I don't see any evidence that she has tried to force her beliefs on the people of Alaska. We need new leadership in Washington. Leadership that can move this country forward during a difficult period. We need to look outside the box and think about what we've always said as Americans "In America, anyone can grow up and be whoever they want to be. It doesn't matter if they are female and it doesn't matter if they are the mother of 5 children, a hockey mom and living in Alaska. If you work hard, act as a servant of the PEOPLE, fight special interests and powerful entities, you can be Vice President." And you can do this not because you are Harvard educated or because you make great speeches. You can do this because you love your country and are willing to fight for the PEOPLE. This is what Sarah Palin is tapping into. She represents the average people, you and me. She gives us hope that we are not helpless. We can fight to take our government back and make it work for the PEOPLE. Sarah Palin has a teflon quality because nothing that she has been accused of doing has been proven to be true. In fact the facts behind the investigations pass the common sense test. We are not so easily manipulated?

Posted by: Wren | September 18, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Crux, the Republicans don't own family values. No one does. There are good and bad people on both sides. The very idea that you can lump an entire group of people in such a negative light just shows your ignorance. You need to get out more and meet more people that are not "just like you". Whatever that might be.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Can you say Katherine Harris?
Can you say Fred Thompson?

Posted by: Losercuda | September 18, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

check the polls. her favorable / unfavorable numbers are eroding from hi fav and lo unfav to the reverse ... she doesn't wear well once her positions are better known ... especially among women. she will probably remain strong with the conservative religious base but begin to increasingly fade out of favor with moderates and independents, e.g., chuck hagel has gone on the record questioning her readiness to become v.p.

Posted by: dadahorse | September 18, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The more we get to know her, the more we don't like her.

Her best chance at solidifying support and gaining credibility from moderates will be at the debate.

Posted by: Chris K | September 18, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I am an Independent White Woman from Florida voting for Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Never would I vote for a women just because she is a women with a rabbit or a critter up her sleezy politics. Also Palin cut half the Alaska budget for the Special Olympics now isn't that something to look closely at for the compassion on one hair on Sarah's head is just too strange. What a human being.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

But does she know the price of arugula?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: Kristi | September 18, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

dislike of Bush stems not from his Ivy League education, but from his inability to LEAD. Let's run down the few decades of American Presidents.

Regan - Actor, no formal advanced education

Bush 41 - graduate Yale with Bachelor's degree in economics

Clinton - Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service, Georgetown University; Rhodes Scholarship to University College, Oxford where he studied Government; Yale Law School and obtained a Juris Doctor

Bush 43 - Yale University, Bachelor's degree in history

now the candidates:

McCain - United States Naval Academy graduated 894 of 899

Palin - Hawaii Pacific College but left after her first semester, transferring in 1983 to North Idaho College and then to the University of Idaho. She attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term, returning to the University of Idaho to complete her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism *from wikipedia (I'm not retyping all of that mess)

Obama - Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard

Biden - University of Delaware where by his own later description he was a lazy student. graduated with a double major in history and political science ranked 506th of 688 in his class. J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law in 1968, where by his own description he again underperformed and ranked 76th of 85 students.

One of these people has an education, two got educated but were slackers, and one is suited only for light duty. Journalism is a real slacker's major, right up there with art history.

Where did this culture of ignorance come from? And why/how has it taken root in our country? Our leaders should be intelligent, not just clever.

Posted by: anon | September 18, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

What is Ms. Palin's policies on the economy? Gas prices? Health care? Does anyone know? All of you who support her, do you know? All these people that are flocking to see her, are they really that tone deaf? This vacuous "beauty queen" says nothing of substance. She doesn't answer any question directly or with any heft. She just spews repub talking points. What exactly is a maverick? A horse, what? These stupid people don't know a hill of beans about this woman who's mind-numbingly unqualified to be VP and now I'm thinking Gov as well. She's been caught in lie after lie and they don't care. On the stumps, she's just repeating her convention speech over and over again! Word for word. Notice the Dems don't try to hide Biden, or try to make sure he's thoroughly briefed before speaking to the MSM. This woman is a joke to appeal to those low information voters that don't vote on platform or policy but on sound bites and spear ads. As for women who think she's a sub for HRC, they are too stupid to see she is the antithesis to Hillary. These "low education" voters just like her because of her "big hair", her looks, and her "God and" guns stance. If they get in, you will regret it because this woman is truly scary.

Posted by: TM | September 18, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I can imagine the outrage of the left wing media Obama water carriers if Obama's email was hacked. It would be called emailgate and parallel watergate. When is the left wing media clowns going to grow some gonads and get after a presidential candidate who has past associations that resemble america's most wanted. Is it conscience or fear of being labeled racist? There is only one racist in this election and he happens to be the black candidate. He and he alone has injected race and set back race relations in America that will take years to heal whatever the outcome of the election may be.

I hope Obama gets elected so the left wing media scum can suffer like the rest of us.

Posted by: ziggy1 | September 18, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The voting public often decides on a candidate for extremely stupid reasons . . . he's a good old boy, I'd sure like to have a beer with him . . . or she & I could go hunting moose, with high powered rifles, from a plane so them critters wouldn't have a chance . . . however women are beginning to look at her record and wondering why this "reformer" has been against extra funding for special needs children (who can't afford the programs she can) and now reportedly says she fired the state commissioner not because he wouldn't fire her ex-brother-in-law but because the guy went to the US Congress looking for government funds to create programs to help victims of rape and incest -- The crime rate in Alaska is the highest in the nation for crimes against women and children. She's more interested in oil, in supporting groups that urge Alaskans to withdraw from the US (her husband has been a member and just this year she gave a speech urging the group to continue their great work).

This election cycle the main stream media is doing their job. MSNBC is a breath of fresh air to counter the carefully correct network news and the propaganda of Fox. No one blinks at the last 8 years of lies and Democrat beating - truth be damned. MSNBC with Olbermann and Maddow (and Matthews) sometimes are too obvious in their support but have yet to hear them lie -- they do tend to mention things that are unimportant (lipstick on a pig) but so did the rest of the media -- and they did go with revealing how unimportant it was rather than do as Fox did bringing in pig experts to explain how this was a slur.

Posted by: MarleneS | September 18, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Mr. De-regulator is so insincere that he couldn't even admit, when he said the fundamentals of our economy are strong, that he had misspoke. Instead, he tries to redefine the meaning of fundamentals. It's about the people. The people who are ultimately going to have to pay for this mess. Pretending he's an outsider. What a joke.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Crux writes: "The phenomenom that is Sarah Palin is because she is the embodiment of the conservative American story. She worked her way through school, she's independent, hard working, loves her family, and honors God and country."
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You forgot she lies through her teeth, with no qualms, again and again.

Posted by: Monk | September 18, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

What's scary to think about is how much McCain doesn't know and what's he already publicly said he'll have to lean on his VP to 'handle.' If you remember in the first CNN/You Tube Debate during the Republican primary season, McCain let slip a fairly stunning admission. He assured viewers that he wouldn't need to lean on his vice president in George W. Bush-style for national security expertise, but might "rely on a vice president' for help with less important issues such as 'information technology' which is the future of this nation's economy."

Less important issues? What could be less important than the underpinning of our country infrastructure -- especially in the aftermath of our country's most serious financial meltdown? And to think he'll be leaning on Gov. Palin to manage our technology strategy is frankly scary and highly irresponsible.

See if this one will 'stick.'

Posted by: Elaine C | September 18, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Given the devastation he's brought to the American people, his ability to operate above the law and the generally favorable (fair and balanced) media coverage he received through his disastrous first term, I would argue that G.W. Bush is the true man of Teflon. As the media struggles to investigate a woman who came to national prominence in just the last month, it's much too early to judge whether she has the Teflon quality. It took more than his first term for the press and bloggers to really get anything negative to stick to our 43rd president.

Posted by: Alex | September 18, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

The phenomenom that is Sarah Palin is because she is the embodiment of the conservative American story. She worked her way through school, she's independent, hard working, loves her family, and honors God and country.
She resonates with MILLIONS of people who have watched with incredulity and disdain the direction our culture has gone in the last decade.
The liberal, culturally depraved folks in America do not get it. They do not understand that the term "family values" or "traditional values" actually mean something.
All the mud slinging and the frantic searching to find something illegal in her past is a desperate attempt to justify the amoral path our culture has taken.
Those on the extreme left cannot believe that there are people who live what they say. I once heard a "right to chooser" say, "50% of American women believe in abortion." That also means that 50% of American women DO NOT believe in abortion. They conveniently forget that.
Those of us who have silently endured the derision and contempt of the left extrememists, FINALLY have someone who embodies the other side, and it is driving the mud slingers nuts.
It's not teflon. It's true metal.

Posted by: crux | September 18, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Are you loser libs so desperate that you must concentrate on our choice for 2nd to compare to your messiah? Who cares about the VP choice. you picked the oldest blowhard fossil who manages to be wrong on every issue he finds over an incredibly long period of time. Only fleeced dick can match that failure rate.


today is a day to celebrate. the Yankess are out of the playoffs and Obama is sinking like a stone for lack of any valid bona fides. the one poll says it all - talker or doer. I think the voters plainly see the difference. that won't stop the victims from voting for THE ONE, but the rest of us are happy to make (or break it) it on our own.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 18, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

"So she was forced to only attend college in spurts. This is also why she started doing beauty pageants -- for the scholarship money (the same reason many girls do)."

The delusion of the rightwing continues.

Palin didn't attend college in "spurts." She went to school continuously. She just transferred a lot, including two stints at community colleges, which tends to indicate she needed to beef up poor grades at UI by returning to JC in Alaska, then finally going back to Moscow to get her degree.

And as for the working class claim, if she truly were short on funds, she wouldn't have tranferred from Hawaii to Idaho to Alaska back to Idaho. It takes money to make those many moves.

Were she truly working class and financially strapped, she would have gone to college in Alaska and stayed there.

Posted by: castanea | September 18, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Teflon? Less and less. The Palin bubble is bursting. Today, from Chuck Hagel, channeling Joseph Nye Welch exposing Joseph McCarthy:

Finally, a Republican says what everyone else --from Will to Krauthammer -- know in their heart of hearts:
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McCain and other Republicans have defended Palin's qualifications, citing Alaska's proximity to Russia. Palin told ABC News, "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska!"

Hagel blasted that argument. "I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."


Posted by: Monk | September 18, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Your question is very telling. As you said, it's what people ask when they've tried every possible smear and none of them work.

And you thought you had to ask the question.

Posted by: Common Sense | September 18, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Even Karl Rove has said her rock star glow can't be sustained very much longer.

Posted by: Bill | September 18, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Here is what I feel , if you were old enough to vote for Nixon and you enjoyed the lies and rediculous cover-up Your voting for the McCain/Palin ticket is what you have to look forward to. Neither people really are all that smart so the tricky dicks can pull the wool over these republicans eyes, right out of their own party favorites. If you liked Bush You will get Bush again in doubles. If you liked Cheney you will be able to find him somewhere in the picture. For me, I like Obama and Biden they have a decent track record.

Posted by: BROOK | September 18, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"An important poll shows Obama up significantly and winning with white women."

Please either:

1) provide source
2) share with us some of whatever drugs you are taking

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

To all you Obama supporters out there who say Obama is not getting the support because he is black. Please!! Enough already about race, let's focus on the real issues at hand. Yes Obama graduated Harvard magna cum laude and was president of the Harvard Law Review (although he never wrote or contributed any articles) this makes him qualified to be president how? Let's also look at his record in office as an Illinois Senator (a part time job by the way) where again his record of achievement essentially amounts to nothing. Moving onto his first term (which is half over) in the US senate he has again accomplish zero other than running for president since he took office. His resume is so paper thin making him no more qualified to serve as president than anyone else.

I wish that the left leaning media would do its job with the journalistic integrity of likes of Walter Cronkite or Edward G. Murrow. Unfortunately, today, what we have for so called journalists are nothing but mere biased sensationalists and they have lowered themselves to the standards of the tabloids. Were they true journalists, desiring to portray an true picture of who Obama is they would be pursuing Obama's relationship with Ayers, Rezko, and Wright. Understanding these relationsip will reveal who the true Obama is. These are the types of individuals who have influenced to form his character and make no mistake about it, this is ALL about character.

But I know that neither the left leaning liberal Obama loving media nor any liberals out there will want to do that since you are enamored and mesmerized by Obama. Should he win the election you will have no one to blame but yourselves when you finally realize who is in office.

Posted by: kk_denver | September 18, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

it is hard to admit, but facts are facts. in spite of her obvious shortcomings and lack of any real qualifications the polls show that the Mccain ticket is ascending while Obama/Biden are stuck at 45%.

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Ascending? LOL. What, backwards?

All the latest polls show Obama surging ahead and McCain dropping.

An important poll shows Obama up significantly and winning with white women...this is a huge shift and proves what a poor choice Palin was and is...the more and more we read about her extreme views, the less we women support her...unless you are an extreme right-wing Xtian woman, that is, but thankfully, they are not in the majority.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"Secondly it is well known that there is an innate conservative polling bias because people of a liberal persuasion dont exactly fall over themselves to participate in polls."

To Reality (or lack-thereof): Um no, the opposite is true. There is a liberal bias in polls because conservatives don't trust pollsters and keep their opinions close to the vest. That is why Kerry was "up" in so many polls and lost. You think it was bad then?? Lol, that in combination with the "Bradley effect" should have every Obama supporter shaking in his boots until Obama is 10 points ahead. Otherwise, mark my words, he will lose, and big.

Posted by: Um no | September 18, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Her numbers are falling. I think you answered your own question.

Posted by: Perry | September 18, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The Teflon question is premature.

New frying pans are non-stick. The true Teflon quality comes after several uses and time.

The same is true of politicans. The Teflon qualities of Reagan and Clinton came after many tests. We won't know about Palin's Teflon qualities for a while. She's just a new frying pan right now.

Posted by: Ryan | September 18, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"Q: Is Palin Teflon?
A: No (Data from Research 2000 via DKos):"

LOLOLOL. Kos!!!! That explains quite a lot - thanks for the laugh!

Posted by: Kos? | September 18, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"The Real Scoop On Palin’s Staged Town Hall Meeting — Another Pretend Moment!

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

So, what was the catch? Unlike most town-hall events, which are open to the public, include diverse crowds, and no one needs an advance invitation, this event was for ticket-holders only. And the only way to get a ticket was through the local Republican Party, after an advance RSVP. No wonder Palin was prepared to play “stump the candidate” — it was a very friendly crowd that had no interest in testing her.

It doesn’t exactly sound like a vote of confidence in the candidates’ ability to answer tough questions, does it?"

How long will the GOP continue to get away with lying, cheating and deceiving the American people?

Posted by: Angelllight | September 18, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Q: Is Palin Teflon?
A: No (Data from Research 2000 via DKos):

Approve Disapprove No Opinion

9/11: 52 35 13 +17
9/12: 51 37 12 +14
9/13: 49 40 11 +9
9/14: 47 42 11 +5
9/15: 47 43 10 +4
9/16: 45 44 11 +1
9/17: 44 45 11 -1
9/18: 42 46 11 -4

Posted by: Laryb | September 18, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Tick Tock Tick Tock - Sarah Palin's 15 minutes of fame are ticking away. In four years her name will be a trivia question on "Jeopardy!" Tick Tock Tick Tock

Posted by: dre7861 | September 18, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

it is hard to admit, but facts are facts. in spite of her obvious shortcomings and lack of any real qualifications the polls show that the Mccain ticket is ascending while Obama/Biden are stuck at 45%.

All of this has occurred in spite of a blitz of questions and legitimate inquiry into her behavior as Mayor and Governor including decisions which fly in the face of her created personna as reformer and change agent.

Instead of continuing to erode her standing Obama and Biden need to go after the new weak link in the Repulican armor: John McCain's lack of understanding about what caused the current financial meltdown and his historic bias against regulation. It is, on the face of it, inconsistent that anyone can go to Washington calling for "reform" without believing in the power of government to reform through lesislation and, subsequently, regulation and oversite. If you really want to take on Wall Street you have to grab it by its
----- and squeeze!

How does McCain propose to "clean up" Wall Street? By wishing it would conduct its business differently? Or by significantly revising how power is deployed by government to recify problems which are obcviously the result of both bening and intentional neglect.

Both McCain and Palin, as well as all their top tier of trusted advisors and confidants are true believers in less government and regulation will produce better results. If that theory hasn't been disproved in spades in the past few months, then nothing can persuade the American voter to vote his/her economic interests over personality and spin. And, if that does occur then we, the people, deserve what we get for the next four to eight years.

Stop worrying about Sarah Palin; she is a distraction to the real problem: John McCain and a continuation of the policies and people who just brought you the greatest disappearing act of wealth and prosperity in American history. Herbert Hoover looks like a piker compared to these guys.

Posted by: bobfbell | September 18, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Chevy, your stats are old. You are just like John McCain... outdated.

Latest polls show McCain and Obama neck and neck in NC..

A Time/CNN/Opinion Research Corp., poll released Wednesday showed the race virtually tied at 48 percent for McCain, 47 percent for Obama.

You are a putz.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 18, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I've voted Republican since 1980. State, local, and national. But there is no way I can support someone stupid enough to use, and then get caught, breaking the law with an easily hacked Yahoo email account:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703304.html?hpid=topnews

The VP, who can become the P in a heartbeat, should not be the primary security threat our nation faces.

Posted by: Reagan4Life | September 18, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

News Flash! September polls dont mean anything. First of all lets wait for the debates. Secondly it is well known that there is an innate conservative polling bias because people of a liberal persuasion dont exactly fall over themselves to participate in polls. Additionally most conservatives I know just can't wait to tell you exactly how they feel (usually with a total lack of tact). So try again on Oct 30th.

Posted by: Reality | September 18, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Chevy wrote:

"Take your hating somewhere else"

H.S. Dropout?

How bout you taking an English course to avoid further embarrassment.
****

Chevy, this is proper English. The word "hating" is a gerund - it's a noun. Go to the dictionary and look up "gerund." I'll wait.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"BTW NObama is losing N. Carolina, a must win state."

Since when is NC a must win?

Posted by: DDAWD | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

McShame & Pallid '08

Posted by: anon | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Is Palin Teflon? No.

Yes, she does great when speaking to a friendly audience in a controlled environment, but put her under an objective light, and her so-called Teflon scratches. (Case in point: Gibson's interview. He wasn't even that hard on her, and she still choked.)

Reagan and Clinton, on the other hand, could woo folks from all walks of life and from both sides of the aisle.

The more we learn about Palin, the less the majority like her. (Evangelicals and staunch conservatives are in her corner.)

Posted by: scj, anytown, usa | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

It's not teflon when the charges are all false, it's the triumph of truth and reason against the demonstrable biases of the media (just look at the slant of this post).

All of you calling Palin unqualified must think Obama doubly so, else the cognitive dissonance must keep you up at night. And that Ivy league edumacation - I thought you hated Bush and his IVY LEAGUE education.

The appeal of Sarah Palin is that America is ready for change and no inside boys like Tax-us-more-Biden and Get-in-their-faces-newstyle=oldstyle-Obama is going to achieve that. We need an outsider and GOVERNOR Sarah Palin is our gal.

She's not teflon, it's just that your lies are being fact checked. (Troopergate was Clinton's use of AR state troopers to skank-hunt for him) Don't look now but Tasergate the faux scandal in AK (started by Hollis French-D) is not going anywhere.

Just like all the other lies. The media has followed the raTHergate style of reporting on elections this year and no matter who loses the biggest loser is the Washington Post and others.

Most of America just doesn't believe you anymore.

If you had spent any time investigating the Rezko mortgage assist to Obama's housing purchase, the $126,349 he received in campaign contributions from Fannie Mae, that Jim Johnson of Fannie Mae fame is one of his advisors, that an unrepentant terrorist William Ayers launched Obama's career using the funds from the Annenberg Challenge to curry favor with various political factions including recipients Rev. GDAmerica Wright, and Father Pflegher, and that the organization Obama was community organizing for was ACORN now caught up in several states charged and investigated for fraud.

Nope, you guys want to knock down Sarah Palin because she is IN YOUR WAY.

Stay classy.

Posted by: HRPKathy | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

If Palin is "teflon" then we are simply stupid or too lazy to care about real morals, real values, principles, ethics, etc. that we have demanded of everyone else but somehow seem to be okay with not asking the same of her.

Posted by: Sean | September 18, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

H I L L A R Y - S U P P O R T E R S - 18,000,000

Vote McCain hoping he wins so Hillary can run 2012

If Obama wins Hillary can't run. There's 18 Million of us, please spread the word.

We can live with McCain for 4 years and don't forget republicans can't stand him and that's fine by me.

Regards,
Belair

__________________________________________


Belair this may be the most selfish and idiotic attempt at logic i have ever seen. You are willing to subject my family and your family to another four years of the a Bush-like administartion so that your candidate can have another shot at being president 4 years sooner. Thats unbeleivably selfish and short-sighted. Do you know why Hillary is currently supporting the Democratic Nominee? Because she actually cares about the issues she was speaking about. She cares that your kids get healthcare; she cares that you make equal pay as your male counterpart. She doesn't want your children to be shipped off to fight in another easily avoidable war. What do you care about??

I beleive that Hillary is smart enough to give her career ambitions a backseat for the better of this country. Hillary wants to see America get back on track more than she wants to see a woman in the White House. Do You??

Posted by: Wally | September 18, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

BTW NObama is losing N. Carolina, a must win state.
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He's actually gaining. MCain should be at least 5 points up in NC and he's only up by 2.

Come on, Chevy, we're waiting for more of your hi-octane thoughts.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"can a McCain Palin supporter answer a question for me? Why did it take Sarah 6 years and 5 colleges to get 1 degree???!!!???.... in journalism???!!!???
My guess is that she just isn't very bright, but I would love to see how you spin that."

Because she's not a pampered, effete, spoiled East-Coast liberal brat like you are. Like many working-class people, she had to actually work her way through school and her parents could not afford to send her. So she was forced to only attend college in spurts. This is also why she started doing beauty pageants -- for the scholarship money (the same reason many girls do).

Sanctimonious idiot.

Posted by: To Wally | September 18, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

What we are starting to hear is that Sarah Palin is a small town crook, someone who has abused her elected offices in the past to the extent that it is impeachable. If she somehow squirms her way into office, it will be as the Spiro Agnew of the 21st Century. I look for her to either be removed from office or resign in disgace. Then, given John McCain's health, all of you good right wing nuts get a woman President, all right, but ot will be President Nancy Pelosi!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 18, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Biden is talking about people earning $250,000.00 and over. I think you're safe Chevy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act...

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He's right. As anyone with the slightest knowledge of a democratic republic knows. Not only a patriotic act but a moral duty.

"Taxes are what we pay for living in a civilized society."

-Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

You're out of gas, Chevy.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

It's very easy to be Teflon if you control and choreograph all of your public appearances. She is a poised and polished speaker, especially before pre-selected crowds, but she is assiduously avoiding any tough questions. What is it you'd actually like to change? What do you mean by reform? Are you for or against more regulation? Are you for or against the bailouts? How does that square with your party's platform? Why did you say you were going to cooperate with your state's bipartisan investigation and then refuse to do so? Given the safety net you are providing for your daughter, why did you cut funding for other unwed teens? None of these are sexist or disrespectful quesions.

Posted by: fmjk | September 18, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

The Republican's choice of a little known Governor from one of the most outlying provinces of the empire, has seemed to me to be purely strategic, and has little or nothing to do with governance. In this time of social and economic upheaval, such a move will surely backfire in the end, as more and more of this house of cards comes crashing down, and people look to our leaders for some reassurance and signs of stability. Palin appears to be on the ticket only because of her gender, it did not work for Mondale, and it will not work for McCain. You can only fool all of the people some of the time. And times are tough and getting tougher. Palin is HRC lite, this is transparent, and seems motivated by pure cynicism. I do not believe that American woman are that easily fooled. Surely her star appears to be fading. Quickly.

Posted by: Pete | September 18, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Fair question, If NObama gets all the black vote is that racist?

BTW NObama is losing N. Carolina, a must win state.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Biden pulls another Biden


Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act...

Posted from DRUDGE

What an idiot

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Teflon is great when new but like any cook knows--does not last long and wears out quickly if not handled with "kid gloves"--Unlike most responses--I do not blaim Ms Palin for her lack of knowledge-and let's be honest here--she does not have a law degree(I think knowledge of the constitution is very important)-MBA-international degree--economics degree--extensive knowledge of any subject matter that we need right now--WAKE UP AMERICA--we are involved in a war-our national security is at risk--we have an economy meltdown--and we have her playing I quote "stump the candidate"-she has lied on every subject because HIS staff wrote the script-- John McCain has shown the people of this country how bad his judgement is--he had Romney and a host of experienced-knowledgeble indiviuals he could have chosen to help lead this country in period of need and he taps her for a culture war--shame on him!!!

Posted by: liz1234 | September 18, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

H I L L A R Y - S U P P O R T E R S - 18,000,000
Vote McCain hoping he wins so Hillary can run 2012
If Obama wins Hillary can't run. There's 18 Million of us, please spread the word.
We can live with McCain for 4 years and don't forget republicans can't stand him and that's fine by me.
Regards,
Belair

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If McCain wins, Hillary will never see the White House. Obama's supporters will never vote for her since her supporters voted for McCain and Palin will be elected in 2012.

Hillary's only chance is if Barack is elected. Biden will never be elected. So Hillary wins in 2012 if Barack fails to deliver or in 2016 if he does.

A McCain victory guarantees Hillary never gets to be President.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Teflon is the wrong description - "new car smell" is better and it is fading fast and as we all know once that is gone there is no getting it back.

Her new Favorable/Unfavorable Ratings are 42/44 down from 58/34 a week ago, the lowest of all 4 national ticket candidates.

I think what we are seeing is the national media field dressing, I mean vetting, Mooselini and the mythology, lies and out and out exaggerations of her record coming home to roost. And heck the obstruction around Troopergate is just getting interesting!

Posted by: John Nail | September 18, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is Annie Oakley in ANNIE GET YOUR GUN. Apparently she can "get a man with a gun."

Posted by: lrcwbrown | September 18, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Ha! She's teflon all right, until she actually has to stand up and speak without the Rethuglican ventriloquist's arm up her back.

Only the true rednecks will still be in love with Ms. American Idol after the VP debate.

Nice try, McSame!

Posted by: BigRoy | September 18, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history." -- Vice President Dan Quayle

Posted by: Roy | September 18, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

can a McCain Palin supporter answer a question for me? Why did it take Sarah 6 years and 5 colleges to get 1 degree???!!!???.... in journalism???!!!???

My guess is that she just isn't very bright, but I would love to see how you spin that.

Posted by: Wally | September 18, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Government Office is Not Graduate School

I think Gov. Palin’s Teflon quality, if she has any, comes from her resolute belief in her own abilities, and from her determination to win. These qualities lead her to repeat what she views as truth regardless of facts and other views.

In this country, we look up to people who are self-confident and driven. Remember the children’s book “The Little Engine That Could”? “I think I can. I think I can.” When asked about “her perceived lack of foreign policy experience”, she answered, “I think that I am prepared.” “I’ll be ready. I have that confidence. I have that readiness.” I have no doubt that she really meant it. It will be hard not to be affected by such positive attitude.

Unless we recognize the preposterousness and danger in her blind faith, the Teflon quality will stick. Meanwhile, the country will be on a slippery slope to somewhere we don’t want to be.

Posted by: Wei | September 18, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

can a McCain Palin supporter answer a question for me? Why did it take Sarah 6 years and 5 colleges to get 1 degree???!!!???.... in journalism???!!!???

My guess is that she just isn't very bright, but I would love to see how you spin that.

Posted by: Wally | September 18, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Only one ticket for me in November

McCain/Palin 2008

Posted by: DCMOMS | September 18, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

H I L L A R Y - S U P P O R T E R S - 18,000,000

Vote McCain hoping he wins so Hillary can run 2012

If Obama wins Hillary can't run. There's 18 Million of us, please spread the word.

We can live with McCain for 4 years and don't forget republicans can't stand him and that's fine by me.

Regards,
Belair

Posted by: Belair | September 18, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

As usual, your analysis is wanting. In fact, Palin's favorability has plummeted recently.

As far as the "best and brightest" commentary on the issue of Palin's Teflonicity is concerned, why don't you read this post by Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight and get back to us:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/state-of-race-is-mccain-in-trouble.html

Posted by: FiveSecondRule | September 18, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON - Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party's vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and called it a "stretch" to say she's qualified to be president.

"She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything."

Could Palin lead the country if GOP presidential nominee John McCain could not?

"I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said.

Ah truthiness!

Posted by: toritto | September 18, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"I've voted Republican since 1980. State, local, and national. But there is no way I can support someone stupid enough to use, and then get caught, breaking the law with an easily hacked Yahoo email account:"

I'd LOVE it if it turned out to be phished.

Incidentally, can anyone get to the wikileaks website?

And as I said it, the page loaded it.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 18, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

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Palin is teflon?

Too bad that the Washington Post didn't spend 1/10 of the time they've spent investigating Palin in the last 2 weeks, on vetting The Annointed One over the course of the past 16 months.

Get real people. Obama is the one who's teflon.

I still can't figure out what you people see in him.

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Posted by: DickeyFuller | September 18, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Wow some of the racist remarks on thispost is not surprising, but disappointing. It goes to show it dosen't matter about truth, integrity, and the real issues, but vote for the naive, extermist party that is telling yu that it's okay to raise the average Americans taxes, and keep minimum wage at $7.25 an hour, so that the rich can have more tax breaks. I am shocked that American's can be so ignorant. The racial attack on Michelle Obama was disgraceul, you bigots are all the same, this woman could be your first lady, and you will have to show her some respest. As a matter of fact she is more educated thatn Sarah Plain, and John McCain, and also raises a family. But you know I did read, and I am not neing fuuny, in a very credible source that McCain does better with non college eductated people so this ignorance does make a little sense to me. Thank God America is waking up, let's look at the issues, and decide on that, and not who's glasses you would like to buy, or hairstyle you want to imitaite.

Posted by: Ajudge | September 18, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I agree with "someonethatreallycares" that the only reason Obama isn't winning is because people are looking for a reason not to vote for him, simply because he is black. A large percentage of people in this country do not want a black president. Not even a Harvard educated black man who graduated magna cum laude from the number one law school in this country and was the president of the Harvard Law Review. Which other presidential candidate has that on their resume? Many people want to think he got there on affirmative action, but NO ONE graduates MAGNA CUM LAUDE based on affirmative action. What else does he have to do? Become white?

Palin gives them that reason. How else can we even begin to compare Obama to a woman who who went to college on a beauty pageant scholarship, attended multiple different schools, none of which are nationally ranked, and then took greater than 5 years to do so? And, who, by the way did not graduate at the top of anybody's class. This is the person we are considering for the second highest office in the country? Are you kidding me?

For those of you who can't see through the hype, let me help you. Palin is the type of woman who disregards women and people who are not like her. She believes she is the best thing since sliced bread and if you don't think the way she does your opinion doesn't count. Typical beauty queen mentality. What kind of woman believes that rape victims should pay for their own rape kits? They type of woman who thinks that rape could never happen to her. What type of human being believes that gun education for youth is more important than sex education? Statistically speaking, a teen is more likely to find themselves in a situation where they may engage in intercourse than one in which they may accidentally find a gun. Hello!?! What type of woman states that another woman should have to carry a child that is the product of rape or incest but may abort in the instance of harm to the mother's health. Any intelligent individual knows that health is not only physical but also mental/psychological. Rape and incest impact a woman's mental health! Hello!?!
What type of human being pretends to be a reformer when in actuality they back stab and distort the truth to bring themselves to power. Perhaps a former beauty queen who has an extremely elevated opinion of herself despite the education and life experiences to back it up.

Woman who rally behind Palin for some twisted reason wish they could be her, and think they have something in common. They would love to live vicariously through her for the next 4 years and watch her every step. That is an absolutely appalling reason to vote for an unqualified, ill-prepared and objectively poorly educated person who could one day run this country.

As a woman and women's health care physician, I hope to never have anything in common with her. And I pray every day that people come to their senses and make a decision based on facts not emotions - before it's too late. Do not underestimate this woman's desire to be in the spotlight. Remember, that's what beauty queens live for.

Posted by: Reallyreallyconcerned | September 18, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a Joke. i don't know if you have read any news lately Cillizza but her appeal fading like the view of Russia from Alaska in fog. I think back to the Charlie Gibson interview when she declared that she would bet Obama is wishing he picked Hillary. And already you are starting to hear from some conservatives that Romney would have been a better pick that this idiot from Wassilla. (see Morning Joe)

BTW- I am tired of hearing that Democrats should stop insulting her because that will fire up Republicans. I call a spade a spade. And if she sounds like an idiot ("In what respect Charlie"; Calling for a TrooperGate investigation and the squashing it, saying that her foreign policy experiance is that she can see Russia from her house) She is an idiot. Not only do I think she is way over her head in running for VP (recently a lot of conservatives are starting to agree), I personally think she is not qualified to be the Governer of Alaska. i mean thats the closest state to Russia. We need a serious leader up there.

Posted by: Wally | September 18, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm stunnded at the attacks on Sarah Baracuda.
Just proves one thing, DEMS hate SUCCESS.
And they hate it because truth be known they're failures.
Chevy
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LOL. I guess that's why you attack Rachel Maddow? Your tires are all flat, Chevy.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Personally I'm going to vote against her 'cause I couldn't stand listening to her fukkin accent for the next four years.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 18, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Teflon, yes: she is being judged not as a leader or politician, or for issues and integrity, but in terms of personal likeability and novelty. WHY this is true is perplexing. Seems to me that either (1) Americans, molded by media, now tend to judge most things in terms of entertainment value (example: OJ Simpson trial); or (2) she provides cover for people who have a vague discomfort with Obama -- those who, on a gut level, don't really want to support him -- for reasons they maybe don't want to admit, even to themselves.

Posted by: Layla | September 18, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

dognabbit, clean out your ears. She said Why'd he as in Why did he? But feel free to clip it, use it out of context, try to make it sound like something else and try to make it reverse racism. It's Republican Politics, as usual. So much for change.

Posted by: GWequalsWPE | September 18, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm stunnded at the attacks on Sarah Baracuda.

Just proves one thing, DEMS hate SUCCESS.

And they hate it because truth be known they're failures.

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Amy Pohler said it best on Saturday Night Live last week when she called out the media to grow a pair or they could borrow hers. The Teflon is wearing off, no thanks to the MSM but thanks to a lot of outside sources such as political satire. The McCain/Palin team is not giving the public enough credit this time around. In the past you could get away with repeating the same lies over and over before they would be accepted as truth but the American people are paying attention this time with the help of 24/7 sources. McCain and Palin have not moved into the 21st century and Ms. Palin’s repeated lies are not going to become truth no matter how many times she repeats them. Going back to my Saturday Night Live reference Tina Fey said it best when Amy Pohler (Hillary) said she believes global warming is man mad and Tina Fey (Palin) said I believe it is just god hugging us closer. Ms. Palin’s shine is wearing down fast!

Posted by: kayT | September 18, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Maybe this is why her son twig is a retard.
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I really pity your soul. What a sad life you must be living.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON - Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party's vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and called it a "stretch" to say she's qualified to be president.

"She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything."

Could Palin lead the country if GOP presidential nominee John McCain could not?

"I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said.

Ah truthiness!

Posted by: toritto | September 18, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Yes Palin is teflon. Teflon emits a dangerous chemical when heated called PFOA, a human carcinogen known to induce testicular and mammary cancers. Maybe this is why her son twig is a retard.

Posted by: Ace | September 18, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I've voted Republican since 1980. State, local, and national. But there is no way I can support someone stupid enough to use, and then get caught, breaking the law with an easily hacked Yahoo email account:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703304.html?hpid=topnews

The VP, who can become the P in a heartbeat, should not be the primary security threat our nation faces.

Posted by: Lifelong Republican
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You're such a liar! I'm glad you're terrorized by a successfull woman who did it her way.

Have you no shame at all?

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to that Joe Biden guy? Is he still alive?

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Someone needs to hold a mirror to his face to see if he's breathing, to see if in fact there is a reflection.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

She is genuine and authentic like most Americans and that is what scares the hell out of the artificial effetes in the media and in politics.
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Guess that's why she installed a tanning bed in the Governor's mansion? Nothing artificial about that, huh?

Get off the Kool-Aid, Mr. Authentic American.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Well, she's certainly plastic. Maybe not teflon though.

Posted by: Gasmonkey | September 18, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Only one ticket for me come November


MCCAIN/PALIN
All the way

Posted by: DCMOM | September 18, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I've voted Republican since 1980. State, local, and national. But there is no way I can support someone stupid enough to use, and then get caught, breaking the law with an easily hacked Yahoo email account:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703304.html?hpid=topnews

The VP, who can become the P in a heartbeat, should not be the primary security threat our nation faces.

Posted by: Lifelong Republican | September 18, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Picture it, Trinity Church 2006.

Michelle Shiniqua Obama speaking from the pulpit.

Hair flooded with Afro Sheen,

Her prominent nostrils flared wide open in anger breathing fire,

Brow furrowed, and a scowl of hate written across her face.

With blinding fury she's "Fist Pumping" the air in an absolute rage".

All the while ranting against "Whiety" and how they keep raising the bar!

The congregation is worked into a frenzy "SCREAMING" You Go Girl" Bring it Home Sister Obama, etc.

This, my friends is what we will see in October when they release her "whitey-gate" tapes on YouTube.

dognabbit

Posted by: dognabbit | September 18, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

A Florida Obama Worker:

Many of the things you mentioned,as far as preparing and surrounding him self with people are concerned can be said about any candidate that gets close to nomination.That by no means can compensate for the experience obtained from years of toil-any one who had to work hard to reach where they are now will agree with me.
You are too blinded with partisanship or identity factor to see that.I am not.Good luck.

Posted by: Inde | September 18, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

The "teflon"- if it ever existed- is wearing off as the American people learn about Palin. She was chosen as a blank cipher without proper vetting. The McCain campaign looked only at Alaska news archives. They didn't know enough about Alaska politics to realize that after Frank Murkowski the Alaska media were thrilled to have a new person- with a self-promoted story and image- and stopped doing their job.

In addition, in a case of hypocrisy (Hillary Clinton did not get the same consideration) and sexism, she was initially not held to the same standard that a man would have been. Criticisms were characterized by McCain and surrogates as attacks on her as a woman.

Now that the national media is finally doing the job that the Alaska media and McCain campaign should have, one "lie to nowhere" after another is coming out- and Palin's favorability numbers are falling. We have heard about: (1) her phony story about elopement (the NY Time reported she was 6 weeks pregnant- further proof that the abstinence-only sex education she touts does not work); (2) her record on the bridge to nowhere- she was for it while campaigning, Alaska got all the money anyway before she was governor, so she never told Congress "thanks but no thanks"; (3) her charging, when mayor, of sexual assault victims for their rape kits; (4) her efforts to ban library books- according to the McCain campiagn, her inquiry was hypothetical- they can't say why she had to ask 3 times; (4) Troopergate involving abuse of power, government secrecy, evasion of public disclosure laws (with additional proof from the hacked emails showing Rovian deception); and (5) finally her self-promotion as a fiscal conservative, when in reality she increased the state budget by over 30% in just 2 years!

One thing that Americans share, whether liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican, are some core values such as honesty. As Americans realize that Palin is dishonest both personally and politically, they will- with the exceptions of scoundrels like Karl Rove and Pat Buchanan and other idealogues- turn away from her.

In addition, the 18 million cracks in the ceiling will not support Palin when they realize that she believes that "life begins at rape"- that she opposes abortion even in cases of rape and/or incest and opposes all forms of birth control; that she supports charging victims of sexual assault for their exams- in sum that she is an extremist well outside the American mainstream.

As Americans realize again that "it's the economy, stupid" they will clearly understand that Keating 5-McCain and Palin do not have the skills or desire to change the way Wall Street and Washington operate.

That is why the Teflon- if it ever existed- is falling off. That is why the McCain campaign is still trying to keep her "under wraps" until she memorizes her script.

If the American people see through the McCain/Palin efforts to have a reality show for 2 months- and focus on the facts instead- they will learn that the Empress has no clothes.

Posted by: ratfishtim | September 18, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

The teflon starting peeling off Palin about a week ago. She's in big trouble.

Posted by: Dave | September 18, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not Teflon. She is durable cast-iron like a skillet in the hands of Klondike ruffian from Robert W. Service.

She is genuine and authentic like most Americans and that is what scares the hell out of the artificial effetes in the media and in politics.

That is why I would vote for Sarah Palin, even if all she ran was a failed bait shop. She did not. She ran an American State vital to this country's strategic interest and ran it with great honesty and transparency.

As for Olbermann and Maddow - the Doublemint Twins of Snobbery - they have contributed greatly to the landslide of McCain/Palin over Obama/Biden. God bless the two eedjits.

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccainpalin-obama-v-we-few-we-happy-few.html

Posted by: Pat Hickey | September 18, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Talk about teflon, Barack Obama has weathered, racist ministers, bomb throwing pals, slumlords, 300 foreign advisors, an anti-American wife, and a inability to talk without a teleprompter.

Posted by: keepingitreal | September 18, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I'll tell you what....I took a while to check out my options before I made a decision on who to support. I liked John McCain in 2000 and I like Obama but he strikes me as a little green. But after I saw Palin interviewed on ABC my decision was clear. I literally can't afford McCain Palin right now. They sound like Bush desciples spreading the same BS that Bush was in 2000 spreading. it would be nice if I could afford to vote a Republican this year, but my wallet, my 401K, my truck, and my wife tell me that Obama is who we need right now. So here is one more vote for Obama/ Biden in PA.

Posted by: Tom | September 18, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Sit back and laugh, Chevy. Press all the Liberal Buttons and laugh, laugh, laugh. Oh, yeah, it's funny as hell.

You got not respect, dude. No honor. You're un-American. You give the USA a bad name.

Take your hating somewhere else.
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"Take your hating somewhere else"

H.S. Dropout?

How bout you taking an English course to avoid further embarrassment.

Chevy - Educated Redneck
Posted by: dognabbit

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps the reason that some of the news stories don't stick is because they contain a large degree of opinion and falsehoods instead of facts.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts"
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

Posted by: Jim Ret | September 18, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

If Palin was actually shedding these attacks, maybe she'd be teflon. But instead she's just ignoring them - the trick to being teflon is to shed the attacks and not be harmed in the polls. Unfortunately the McCain/Palin ticket just ends up looking like Bush/Cheney with their secrecy and media arrogance, and it's causing them great damage in the polls.

Posted by: Brian | September 18, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"Enormity means evil or sinister. Not large or numerous."

Enormity has both definitions - You know there ARE dictionaries on line, right?

Posted by: Daniel | September 18, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

It scares me that someone so unqualified as Obama could be running our country. I think Obama has been getting a "pass" by the press and public and hence the adoration and Teflon effect. The race card has been played very effectively by his campaign - crying foul and racism on any criticism of her.

Posted by: kettle you're black | September 18, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

i think she is teflon to the extent that she appears likeable with a quirky family history, but she is becoming irrelevant outside the base. the focus will be on the presidential candidates so she can run out the clock on troopergate and any other issues. the teflon will only go away if she stumbles and makes inappropriate remarks about obama or biden.

Posted by: james p | September 18, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Teflon is deceiving. It's only non-stick until its surface is scratched - then you may as well toss it away because it is useless and also dangerously toxic. McCain and Palin are quickly and finally beginning to show their inability to slide around the pan and how hazardous they are to our health.

The media needs to take a bold, "courthouse steps after the verdict" approach to ferreting out Palin & McCain, putting them on the spot personally and then broadcasting their inability to do more than pose and wave - they're bound to catch many deer in the headlight moments and finally expose the truth - that neither of them have a single intelligent answer for our future economic safety or preventing WWIII.

The McCain/Palin/Bush/Cheney ticket created their own stuck-on mess - Americans shouldn't have to be the ones to scrub it clean for them.

Posted by: Peakmom | September 18, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I am a registered Republican and a woman. It scares me that someone so unqualified as Palin could be running our country. I think Palin has been getting a "pass" by the press and public and hence the adoration and Teflon effect. The gender card has been played very effectively by her campaign - crying foul and sexism on any criticism of her. Let's get back to issues, policy, economy. For those Hilary supporter who still have a grudge, don't play into the Republican hands by voting Palin. Think of the dire consequences if you support Palin, think which ticket is the lesser of the two evils. The same for those who are charmed by Palin - where are the issues? Vote the candidate who will do the least damage. We have enough damage for the last 8 years. I don't believe in celebrity or ugly attacks. Let's stick to the economy and people's lives. I am voting for the more educated, knowledeable and experienced team Obama/Biden that can run this country.

Posted by: N Chu | September 18, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Palin has been well hidden by the media for years - Posted by: Ken
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Whayt planet do you live on? Vogue Magazine did a feature story on her in DEC. Didn't you get your copy at walmart payout counter?

It was right there.

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Teflon? Isn't that stuff bad for you, when heated? I use good ole Cast Iron...Ms. Palin is all shine and NO substance...why is she running so hard from coming clean about her Gov. record? Maybe she could qualify for the next Olympics, where her true talent can be seen- running! OR, maybe she can go to Hollywood- they could always use good +40 actresses, who can learn their lines quickly!

Posted by: Ann | September 18, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I think she is Teflon.

My why:

She is attractive, charming, a relatively smooth talker, and people want to be friends with her. All qualities that have nothing to do with the substance of policy positions, but for better or for worse (ok, for worse), these qualities will endear many of the public to her. These qualities served Reagan and Clinton very well.

http://www.politicswithagrin.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Kristen | September 18, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

>>A democrat wrote: "Rachel Maddow is incredibly irritating, as is Keith Olberman. Two peas in a pod. And you don't have to be a genius to see that."

You have something there. Both of their faces twist up in a peculiarly self-loathing, unhappy expression when they launch on a partisan attack. There is an almost perverse masochistic vibe they both give off.

Hard to verbalize what's so weird about those two...

One might say that both Rachel Maddow & Keith Olberman appear to be so personally frustrated and twisted up by their political aggravations that it's hard to image that they could let go of their angst, relax and enjoy themselves even when stimulating themselves in the privacy of their own homes.

The only other newsperson I can think of who gives off vibes of being so politically bent in their expressions of aggravation that they appear to be sexually frustrated & perverted is Maureen Dowd.

I have a theory that Dowd is secretly a psycho gay man in drag who has a basement pit with a series of female victims chained in it, from whom she hacks off some symbolic body part from time to put on and help her twisted mind maintain the delusion that she is a woman.

For all of these three journalists, it seems that they are the "failed mean girls" of their school. I.e. the mean-girl wanna-bes whom everyone hated, and no one ever kissed, but listened to out of morbid fascination.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Controlling the narrative is key to being teflon. Palin's losing that control. The new revelations - troopergate, earmarks - fall into the bigger narrative of Republican failures and malfeasance. Saying one thing and doing another, failing to maintain ethical standards of maintaining the public trust. The new narrative will overwrite the narrative provided during her introduction.

Posted by: Utec | September 18, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I bet that McCain wished he had chosen Romney instead of the Zero. He would have appealed to the moderates of the GOP who are probably going to vote for Obama now because they can’t believe that McCain has sold out to the zealots.

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True enough. I was going to switch from Obama to McCain until he picked Palin. But that choice gave me no choice but to return to Obama. No way I'm putting an inexperienced right-wing Xtian zealot in the White House. Both McCain and Obama made poor choices for VP...McCain's was just way worse.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand MSNBC's business model, it's a failure yet they keep going left.

I doubt they're doing the DEM party any favors. Overbite's behavoir is borderline insane and Matthews is so bad you just can't watch him. He never lets anyone talk, he's so arrogant

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Palin has been well hidden by the media for years - Alaska can do that to local politicians. That and going to a beauty shop from the 50's allows Palin to enter the race "fresh". No major positions on any major issue. Makes it easy for speech writers to pump her up for the public.

Troopergate might have been a problem, but the Republicans WILL keep that under wraps until after the election. If McCain/Palin win the election it will be covered up permanently.

There is, however, the risk that Palin will actually speak her mind, like she did when she said that war with Russia is possible. Moments like those display just how poor that mind is. Can anyone seriously consider the woman has the intellectual ability to be a decent President if McCain doesn't last 4 years?

War with Russia! Wow! Maybe Wonder Woman thinks it will be an easy one - like Bush/Cheney thought Iraq would be easy.

Posted by: Ken | September 18, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

She's telegenic and ethereal. The two interviews in which I've seen her answer questions give me serious pause, however. She tends to repeat phrases in response to different questions (i.e. "not blinking" in the war on terror and in accepting McCain's VP invitation, and "ruffling feathers" while attempting to reform different "good ol' boy" establishments). There seem to be inconsistencies in her message of "openess" in government and her apparent penchant for secrecy. She originally indicated she would cooperate with the trooper investigation, but now seems to be obfuscating the procedure. Such behavior is disturbingly reminiscent of Bush administration tactics. There are reports she ordered her staff to use private e-mail rather than that provided by the state of Alaska to better avoid potential subpoenas. The fact that her Yahoo! e-mail account was hacked, while unfortunate and despicable, nevertheless further illustrates her naiveté, for it should be commonly known that web-based e-mail is less than secure. In short, I think Governor Palin is easy to look at and pleasant to listen to, but she is not yet Vice Presidential material.

Posted by: Ralph Peyton | September 18, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"Even an enormity of things with the grain of truth to them can diffuse the impact of the messages the public hears."

Enormity means evil or sinister. Not large or numerous.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 18, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Johna and Ben I imagine many more Republican houses will burn before this economic crisis ends. Too bad the Republican run commission in my county cut money for the fire department. Hope a garden hose will work for them.

Posted by: Ace | September 18, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

She WAS like teflon... the super slick teflon you get on a brand new pan. You baby it a bit... but, with use, it gets a bit scratched here and there... things start to stick a little. Before you know it, nothing slides off that teflon anymore. That's Palin. She's getting scratched up a bit now. In a few weeks, particularly after the debate with Biden, her teflon will be trashed.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 18, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Joe Scar.. took a shot at Keith Overbite this AM.

MSNBC is really out of control

It was Andrea Mitchel who had Overbite and the drooler "Matthews" demoted.

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Anyone (well, almost) can be Teflon for a few weeks -- it's only when there's a serious scrape that the toughness of the Teflon is really seen. Can she avoid such a scrape in the next 6 weeks? That's the McCain gamble. Will she be Teflon for the length of an administration? That's a much shakier bet.

Posted by: Tom Dolan | September 18, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Exactly. He was even in the polls when he picked Palin. If he had picked Romney they could have campaigned on a solid platform instead of a silly gimmick that can't be maintained to November. I have to tell you, I work in the Obaba campaign and we are ecstatic. This may end up being closer then we thought it would be but I think we have it in the bag. Something interesting,. You know, in a casino Mccain goes to the crap tables thats all he plays, thats true. Obama is a world class poker player, he could play in those tournaments you see on TV. They are just totally different men in every way.
Mccain is a constant accident waiting to happen.

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Wow, I bet that McCain wished he had chosen Romney instead of the Zero. He would have appealed to the moderates of the GOP who are probably going to vote for Obama now because they can’t believe that McCain has sold out to the zealots. In addition, he would have been probably the best candidate on the planet to discuss the economy and how to get out of this mess. Instead, McCain went for the stunt…..a stunt, in fact, that is hurdling down to earth with every passing hour. Too bad.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Sit back and laugh, Chevy. Press all the Liberal Buttons and laugh, laugh, laugh. Oh, yeah, it's funny as hell.

You got not respect, dude. No honor. You're un-American. You give the USA a bad name.

Take your hating somewhere else.

Posted by: dognabbit | September 18, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

The reason Palin appears to be Teflon is because she is being kept away from the media. Biden is not afraid to go before the media. However, the McCain camp's handlers seem afraid to to put Palin before the media because something unknown might come out.

Posted by: Louis | September 18, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I no longer use teflon. Folks are supposed to use it with plastic, soft, cheap looking utensils to preserve the finish -- never treat it with anything harsh, like steel utensils, because the teflon peels off and exposes the cheap pot underneath. It not only looks ugly, but it isn't usable -- everthing sticks. Have to eventually throw it out.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

A liberal journalist referred to Sarah Palin as looking like a "porn actress" that only appeals to "white trash"-- you can read her article in my blog. I guess the femanazis seem to think that a female VP candidate should look like an overfed lesbian mule with hairy armpits?
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She's Canadian. So what?

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

>>A democrat wrote: "Rachel Maddow is incredibly irritating, as is Keith Olberman. Two peas in a pod. And you don't have to be a genius to see that."

You have something there. Both of their faces twist up in a peculiarly self-loathing, unhappy expression when they launch on a partisan attack. There is an almost perverse masochistic vibe they both give off.

Hard to verbalize what's so weird about those two...

One might say that both Rachel Maddow & Keith Olberman appear to be so personally frustrated and twisted up by their political aggravations that it's hard to image that they could let go of their angst, relax and enjoy themselves even when stimulating themselves in the privacy of their own homes.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Met a born again, "said he wasn't voting for McCain but that he is voting for Palin. Certainly not all, but a majority, simply look the other way, as long as they can vote for "one of Theirs" It is so obvious why not come out and say it?

Posted by: bob | September 18, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Wheres the story Nobama behind America's back was attempting to delay the return of America's soldiers?

It's all over the net and NO response from the NOBama camp

Once again NOBama proves he's not the person he claims he is.

How dare him play politics with American lives.

Try him under the Logan act, and then string his sorry azz up.

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Wait a minute! If you go to YouTube, you can find video of a rally of ANCHORAGE WOMEN AGAINST PALIN--why on earth hasn't the MSM picked this up?

Posted by: Katy Carlitz | September 18, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON - Rep. Charles Rangel has been using a House of Representatives parking garage for years as free storage space for his old Mercedes-Benz - a violation of congressional rules and a potential new tax woe for the embattled lawmaker, The Post has learned.

The 1972 silver sedan is registered to Rangel, who is already under investigation by the House Ethics Committee, and is parked in a coveted section of an indoor lot, near elevators that lead to his office.

The car is covered with a protective tarp and has no license plates. Rangel's registration on the vehicle expired in 2004, state records show.

House rules forbid use of the garage for long-term storage more than 45 days - and congressional aides told The Post that Rangel's car has been sitting there for years.

The veteran Harlem Democrat, who is chairman of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, is under fire for numerous lapses.

He has asked that the House ethics panel examine his possession of four rent-regulated apartments; his tax liability stemming from his ownership of a vacation home in the Dominican Republic; and his use of House stationery to solicit donations for a "center for public service" he is launching.

Rangel's woes first began last year, when The Post reported that he wanted permission from the Federal Election Commission to use $64,500 from his "leadership" political-action committee and campaign account to commission an elaborate portrait of himself to hang in the Ways and Means Committee room.

This summer, Rangel was hit with a series of wallops about his ethics.

It was revealed that he had four rent-stabilized apartments in Harlem, including one he had been using as a campaign office. He has since agreed to give up that office.

He was then hit with a flood of questions after The Post reported that he had failed to disclose in his federal filings income that he'd earned from renting out the luxury villa in the Dominican Republic, which he has owned for 20 years.

He was forced to admit that he never paid taxes on $75,000 in rental income he'd received on the property over 20 years.

He has also admitted his past two decades' worth of returns were riddled with errors, and has hired a forensic accountant to examine them.


He writes the laws for you and me. not for himself. typical Dem crook. that's why he is the chair and the leader of the culture of corruption under her wickedness Mdm Pelosi.

Posted by: we b crooks | September 18, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Becoming "Teflon" is both an internal and external thing. First, the candidate has to be able to unflinchingly look into the cameras and wave the criticism off as ridiculous ... and do it with a smile on their face. If they complain or get defensive, the public picks up on it and they are doomed.

Externally, the "Teflon" is made almost permanent by overly critical or truly baseless accusations by the opponent or the press. The greater the volume of these, the better. That way, when the public hears another accusation (true or not) they are inoculated and discount it based on all the other ridiculous stuff.

Even an enormity of things with the grain of truth to them can diffuse the impact of the messages the public hears. A singular Watergate and the Teflon is pierced ... a series of "gates" (troopergate, travelgate, etc...) and nothing penetrates the Teflon.

Posted by: Thom Scott | September 18, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

A liberal journalist referred to Sarah Palin as looking like a "porn actress" that only appeals to "white trash"-- you can read her article in my blog. I guess the femanazis seem to think that a female VP candidate should look like an overfed lesbian mule with hairy armpits?

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: DCfred | September 18, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

She is not Teflon. She has merely been so well protected and carefully scripted that no one of substance in the news media has had an opportunity to ask her any questions that would be viewed as difficult, or as some Republicans would refer to as "gotcha questions". She's still taking her crash course in, oh I don't know, everything, but time is running out. In spite of McCain's best efforts, she is rapidly loosing her luster and people are growing bored. The "folksy" act is wearing thin.

Where do you get these ridiculous questions?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Where does the media find these FREAKS?

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 10:52 AM

At the DNC or Kos convention.

Posted by: freaks R us | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM
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LOL I'll buy that

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Quote:
Palin and Obama are very similar.
Both are media stars with thin resume and a lot of hype.
The difference is-one is running for President and other-for vice president.
I would rather take a chance with the vice-president than the president.

Posted by: Inde | September 18, 2008 11:02 AM

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Really Palin compares to Obama, hardly
Harvard law review, practiced law and taught constitutional law. His professor at Harvard said and I Quote, "Obama is one of the most brilliant students I have ever taught, he may know constitutional law as well as I do.

Palin hardly got through high school and did manage to get a degree in journalism after 6 years most get in 2. Knows little or nothing outside her little world in Alaska. Even sayng she didn't know much about Iraq and really had not thought much about it. That was only 2 months ago. then you can add to this, what Obama has been up to for more then a year.

THE EXPERIENCE MYTH OF OBAMA

I have worked with the Obama campaign on a local level since December and have met and spoken with Obama numerous times. Anyone who thinks Obama is not prepared for the office of president does not know Barack Obama. I don't think the campaign has spoken about it, although there have been articles written, maybe because it may have seemed kind of presumptive doing all this so many months before he even had the nomination, but that is not how Obama works.
Little is left to chance. So here is what the deal is:

Does Obama have the experience to be president, is he ready? It would be hard to say anyone is ready to be president, but what prepares one for the job?

Obama has been getting ready when his nomination was still no more then a dream. Obama has an advisory staff of over a 300. Most all are the top people in their fields. 4 of his staff are the top people on middle east politics in the world. He has numerous people on pretty much everything you could think of from global warming to world economics to energy and foreign policy to the military. Generals to scholars you name it, he has been working with these people for more then a year. Obama is a brilliant man, who easily knows more right now then any candidate who ever ran for the office of president. He is so up to speed it is astounding. John Mccain does not know or grasp a fraction of what Obama does. Mccain is in effect, a dinosaur, compared to Obama now. Mccain has no real practical experience or understanding in many of these areas at all. Just being in Washington for many years does not necessarily make you an expert nor knowledgeable in "Anything".
Bill Clinton said it best when he said,
"No one is really prepared to be president".
He was right and Obama understood that better then anyone long before he even began his journey for the presidency. So for over a year he has been quietly preparing. Like anything such as being a doctor or lawyer or any profession, your first introduction is academic, you go to school. Obama will by no means be learning on the job, he has been in school for more then a year. When enters office, Obama will be the most well prepared and ready president to ever walk into the white house.
He will also be surrounded by the finest staff ever assembled by any president in history.

If you do not want to vote for Barack Obama I can respect that, but by no means think he is not ready to be president. He will be the most ready man to ever win the office.

Thanks for listening
A Florida Obama worker

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"What's mainstream America watching...."

LOL. Mainstream America is out working, watching their kids play soccer, taking the dog for a walk.

Do-nothing right-wingers who think "God" will solve all their problems are Fox's biggest demographic.

Obama will do just fine. You can tell by the desperate McCain Palindrones on the blog. We can feel your fear.

It'll be ok, really. It's hard to remember after 8 long disastrous years, but having a competent President is a GOOD thing!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse


Speaking of Rush:

He's the typical conservative:

Drug abuser or closeted homosexual
or both.

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Any professional chef will tell you that teflon is not the material of choice. Professional chefs take the time to season their pans over time and in that way do not have to use teflon, which is a toxic, manufactured material. Professional kitchens do a lot of high heat cooking and use a lot of metal utensils as these can be sterilized readily. The Teflon coating is not made for high heat use and the coating does not hold up over time.If you are using a culinary metaphor, I would describe Palin as teflon in this sense: wholly manufactured, toxic, and a poor choice over time, especially in heated situations.

Posted by: Margaret | September 18, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Troopergate probe appears to be unraveling
Major false charge going south. 572 more to go.

Posted by: the truth if you can handle it | September 18, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I bet that McCain wished he had chosen Romney instead of the Zero. He would have appealed to the moderates of the GOP who are probably going to vote for Obama now because they can’t believe that McCain has sold out to the zealots. In addition, he would have been probably the best candidate on the planet to discuss the economy and how to get out of this mess. Instead, McCain went for the stunt…..a stunt, in fact, that is hurdling down to earth with every passing hour. Too bad.

Posted by: Losercuda | September 18, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I believe the bloom will be seriously off the Palin rose over the next few weeks. She has lied too often, too repetitiously, and the facts of those lies will continue to catch up with her.

There will most likely never be another politician who can be as Teflon coated for an extended period in the way Reagan and Clinton were - because of the internet. It is no longer possible to go to every burg and hamlet and repeat the same lies over and over and not be caught - the truth will be posted over and over and over in blogs and posts all over the country. In fact, all over the world.

Posted by: Dorothy | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I thought Palin came off as very personable during her convention speech. Nice, funny AND tough (and cute to boot).

Posted by: A democrat | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

The problems is not that Palin is Teflon, but that the polarization of the country has made the voting public STUPID. The vast majority wil not or can not accept the truth about ______ (fill in the blank).

The middle class and lower economic class that voted for the Bush administration did so at the peril of their own finanical security. It now is even more apparent that their furture and their childrens' and grand childrens' will be trying to pay for the "smaller government" and deregulation of GOP and McCain.

Now many of those same people will vote for McCain, Palin because she looks like them! HOW STUPID.

Posted by: lonenoncon | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Where does the media find these FREAKS?

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 10:52 AM

At the DNC or Kos convention.

Posted by: freaks R us | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse


With all that said:

Obama's going to win.

Conservatives are essentially
corrupt and inept at running
companies or governments.

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I love it when Rush Limbaugh plays that song "Barack...The magic Negro"

LOL to funny

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will never have the Teflon image of Ronald Reagan. One of the things that made Reagan Teflon was that he was viewed as a nice man. Sarah Palin was introduced to the American people as a tough, sarcastic attack dog. In other words, not a nice woman. Therefore, she will never elicit any of the sympathy that Reagan did when her foibles are exposed.

Posted by: Mary | September 18, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

Your question is so last week. Check out the polls. Even if she bounces back (she may well) clearly she is not teflon....

Posted by: DC | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Rachel Maddow is incredibly irritating, as is Keith Olberman. Two peas in a pod. And you don't have to be a genius to see that.

Posted by: A democrat | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

For the conservative values voters who have qualms about McCain, Palin is coated in Teflon. For the rest of us, though, the bloom is off the rose. She's an intriguing person, but I wouldn't trust her with the Presidency. She also makes McCain look old.

Posted by: Heron | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I prefer to run against the chick. the old man is simply too much for me.

Posted by: snObama | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

DEMS in here still spewing the bile over Palin.

LOL poor Sarah Baracuda, the all American woman. Libbies hate success.

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Johna the same thing happened to my sister. Here house was burned down the night of black Monday. She is also a Republican. She had a McCain/Palin sign on her lawn.

Posted by: Ben | September 18, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I am, as always, and ever will be, LOUD and DUMB.

Posted by: sphinctator2 | September 18, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/state-of-race-is-mccain-in-trouble.html

"McCain's other problem is that Sarah Palin may no longer be an asset to the ticket; in fact, she may be a liability. Averaging the candidates' favorability scores across four recent polls -- as one should always try and do when looking at favorability numbers since they can vary greatly depending on question wording -- Palin now has the worst net scores among the four principals in the race:

Palin's average favorability score is now a +7 -- about 10 points behind Joe Biden's numbers. Perhaps more importantly, these numbers are 10-15 points behind where Palin's numbers were just a week or so ago. If voters come in not knowing very much about a candidate -- and the more they see of the candidate, the less they like of the candidate -- this is a major concern."


I can't copy and paste the table, but you can go to the link to see it.

I know polls aren't perfect, but a 10-15 point drop is a lot. I think her people are thinking of her less as someone who gave the dynamic speech at the RNC and more as someone who stumbled through the Charlie Gibson interview.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 18, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Proo NObama is going to be Hammered election day.

What's mainstream America watching.

HANNITY/COLMES 3,136,000
O'REILLY 3,060,000
GRETA 2,908,000
HUME 1,977,000
COOPER 1,828,000
RACHEL MADDOW 1,801,000
SHEP SMITH 1,724,000
KING 1,710,000
OLBERMANN 1,635,000
GRACE 1,166,000
DOBBS 1,156,000
HARDBALL 821,000

LOL Poor Little Libbies

Here Libbies, have a bone

((_)##############################D

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"Palin is all sizzle and no steak. She is like the perky weather girl TV stations used to hire to read the weather with a smile without knowing a thing about what she was reading. She would make a great living as an actress selling detergent in TV commercials.

She has charisma and presence, which we value in our society. Attractive, articulate people have a way of moving up fast in the world, even if they don't necessarily have the smarts, education, or experience of their peers. People want to like her.

I personally find her non-answers and repetitive use of her convention speech lines very unimaginative and indicative of an ordinary intellect."

This is all true. But the really scary thing is that if you take the name "Palin" out of this paragraph, and replace it with "Obama", the paragraph is still true. And Obama, unfortunately, is on the top of the democratic ticket. Oh well, at least Biden has experience.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Palin's newly minted bubble is already leaking based on recent polls and revelations dejour about her visions that troops going to fight in Iraq are fighting God's War (it appears that anything Palin wants is God's Will in Palin's opinion and she tells people what he wants "in His name" in case you don't readily comply)...

I suspect if God wanted his "Will" done, he would direct Palin to use secure e-mailing systems, be less vicious and more Jesus-like...but I digress...

Unlike Presidents Clinton and Reagan, Palin's bubble is fragile, based on inexperience. President Clinton and Reagan's bubbles were well seasoned to withstand the various winds of politics...I suspect Palin's bubble will not sustain a gentle breeze of inquiry from the press and we, the people...

Posted by: scvoter | September 18, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

She broke the law, according to today's Washington Post. Game over for these clowns:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703304.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: Illumination | September 18, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Palin and Obama are very similar.
Both are media stars with thin resume and a lot of hype.
The difference is-one is running for President and other-for vice president.
I would rather take a chance with the vice-president than the president.

Posted by: Inde | September 18, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Chevy, I think MSNBC found Rachael Maddow at Oxford University where, as a Rhodes Scholar, she was working on her PHD in Political Science. What do you have to back up your opinions?

Posted by: Dave T. | September 18, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Right before our eyes, you do the thing that eanbles the Teflon Pols to skate when they ought to be pilloried..

It is articles like this one, that tout Palin as untouchable even as her party'spoll numbers tank, that promotes the delusion that she's got a teflon coating.

Give it up, Chris, Palin's failin' one day at a time, she had her 15 minutes of fame, and now the reality of her past is creeping up to eventually silence you and the rest of the MSM enablers.

Once again, you put the "O" in "Poundits..."

Posted by: JEP | September 18, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

No, the New York times as well as several Alaskan papers who chimed with something that can only be compared to a reaction of "WTF". It is like they are reading about someone they never heard of before. They actually know her.

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"That 80% is as phony as the rest of her resumé." Right.

Please enlighten the rest of American. Sarah Palin really isn't Governor of Alaska? She didn't defeat the incumbent Republican governor nor the previous Democratic governor? Wow! That is some scoop? She didn't report her former boss for corruption and leave her positiion in protest, huh? Phony, ri...ght. Governor Palin didn't cut spending from the previous administration as reported by the Anchorage News?

Looks like someone been spending too much time at the Daily Kos and needs to give up the kool-aide? Rewriting history isn't going to get Obama elected
Posted by: LogicalUS | September 18, 2008 10:55 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

"I'm dying, McCain is litterally blowing NObama away in NY.

Chevy"

Put down the crack pipe. Step away from the crack pipe.

Latest (right-leaning) Rasmussen poll has Obama up by 13 in NY. Nice try, fool!

Posted by: Spectator2 | September 18, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

In today's column, Nate of fivethirtyeight.com averages the latest five national polls measuring favorability ratings of the presidential candidates and shows Palin to be dropping fast in popularity. In fact, she ranks last among the four candidates for president and VP. The luster has worn off, and she will prove to be just a fad.

Munir

Posted by: Munir | September 18, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

The main reason I think the honeymoon will soon be over for Mrs. Palin is that when she starts taking questions --from friendly audience members and real journalists alike--she loses her confidence, which is inextricably intertwined in her appeal. Yesterday at the town hall, she kinda shrunk and took a few steps back in the face of a friendly question about her foreign policy experience. She looked like she mighta soiled her designer suit in the Charlie Gibson interview. (Or as Bill Maher said, she looked so much like a deer in the headlights that her husband Todd almost came out and shot her.) She delivers a great speech but it seems that in the face of questions, she's pretty nervous, manages to sound even more scripted than she does in her speeches, and just doesn't display the same confident warrior woman appeal that she has when there's a teleprompter in front of her. I say by the debate, it's a wrap for the governor.

Posted by: J, NYC | September 18, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

She is teflon inside and out...And that is no good, you get an empy american idolesque VP (with a gun, a bible and 5 kids.

Posted by: Palin´sTeflonPot | September 18, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps a majority of the American electorate will actually realize that truth doesn't need teflon to prevail. Gov. Palin is the "real thing", and whether she has teflon to "protect" her or not, the truth of her character and core beliefs will remain unchanged, in my humble opinion.

Posted by: Jim | September 18, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

The widely respected Chuck Hagel says the empress has no clothes (not that I wouldn't mind a peek):

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_el_pr/hagel_palin

Posted by: Spectator2 | September 18, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

She is a Rhode Scholar and maybe one of the brightest commentators on TV. I guess the fact you never saw her before tells us where you stand. Your are a dope.

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Just saw Rachael Maddow on MSNBC

Is that a boy, girl, what the hell is it?

Is it even Human?

Where does the media find these FREAKS?

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 10:52 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Chevy, did you really say that about Rachel Maddow. Get off this blog! Just go! I don't want to know that someone like you exists!

Posted by: dognabbit | September 18, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"That 80% is as phony as the rest of her resumé." Right.

Please enlighten the rest of American. Sarah Palin really isn't Governor of Alaska? She didn't defeat the incumbent Republican governor nor the previous Democratic governor? Wow! That is some scoop? She didn't report her former boss for corruption and leave her positiion in protest, huh? Phony, ri...ght. Governor Palin didn't cut spending from the previous administration as reported by the Anchorage News?

Looks like someone been spending too much time at the Daily Kos and needs to give up the kool-aide? Rewriting history isn't going to get Obama elected

Posted by: LogicalUS | September 18, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Her bubble has been bursting for days now. She's over, man. Unqualified, lying about her record, autocratic, vapid...I could go on. The American people are realizing that if she's Veep and McCain passes away, we're stuck with Bush in a skirt. So when Joey B debates her, the ghost of Cosell will be screaming "Down goes Palin! Down goes Palin!"

Posted by: Soonerthought.blogspot.com | September 18, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Chris, listen to TW! The polling does not support what you are saying *at all*. Her fav/unfav is trending negative and as the confluence of information permeates and Americans have more time to ruminate, we'll probably see her fav/unfav ratings drop to at or worse than 40/50. This would be significantly below all three of the other candidates.

First rule of the VP pick is "do no harm." McCain's gimmick seems to be wearing off and is now turning into a liability.

Posted by: NHB | September 18, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm dying, McCain is litterally blowing NObama away in NY.

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Just saw Rachael Maddow on MSNBC

Is that a boy, girl, what the hell is it?

Is it even Human?

Where does the media find these FREAKS?

Chevy

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Where I'm from, the great State of Utah, if you say that you are a Republican you get laughed at or beat up. We have to call ourselves conservatives of the Republic. When we speak in public we have to hide our support for the party. The Republicans are like the early Christians, which the Romans fed to the lions for sport. We have a new family living in our church this week. Their house was burned down. They are Republicans. We have to be strong and endure this abuse from the American public. If we are strong McCain will become our president and we can quicken the destruction of America. Lord have Mercy. Hear our prayers.

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Johna The Christian Nihilist | September 18, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Oh Hello. Sorry this is not the Racism blog. I believe you'll find that a couple doors down.

Posted by: Stop Racism | September 18, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Palin is only Teflon in terms of how she is seen in the eyes of the Republican base.

The media has finally debunked many of her stump speech applause lines, such as the "thanks but no thanks" line about the bridge to nowhere, and the quip about selling the former governor's jet on eBay for a profit, both of which have been exposed as completely untrue.

But despite these revelations, Palin and the campaign has embraced the mentality of the Civil War Admiral David G. Farragut by declaring "Damn the truth! Full speed ahead!" and has been continually repeating these lies at every campaign stop.

The bottom line is that the base of the GOP, for which Palin was tapped to court, doesn't care if what she says is untrue. They are simply too infatuated with the idea of a pro-gun, pro-choice, anti-tax, and very religious vixen on the Republican ticket, to be bothered by such trivial things like facts. In other words they’ll buy the pig, lipstick and all.

Posted by: Irish Bruin | September 18, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Teflon a Likely Carcinogen?

Palin's advisor's need to update this analogy.


FYI:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/28/AR2005062801458.html

Posted by: Pat | September 18, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

"Philadelphia columnist threatens race war unless Obama wins.."

Threatens? LOL. My God, you Pubs are becoming such drama queens!

What the columinist wrote was:
"If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!"

That's not a threat, that's a (also overly-dramatic) prediction. And it's about race and class. And the columinist may be right. Or not. But hardly a threat.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I have a better question for ya Gizzilla

Why does NObama HATE America?

William Ayes does (NObama's close friend)

OBama's church Curses America

NObama Pastor curses America

Nobama refused to wear an American flag pin on his lapel, only Senator to take that stance.

Nobama refused to cross his heart during the pledge of alligiance.

NOBama's wife is always ranting against America "1st time i can be proud of America"

Need more examples idiot?

NObama makes me SICK, only an animal would support this America-Hating-Racist

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

It says here that Palin is not really Teflon, and that her favorability ratings will decline only modestly between now and November.

To "show my work," I'll tell you my main reason is that the attacks on her have tended to be petty, personal, and mean-spirited, and the public will tend to sympathize with someone who's being treated unfairly. Being a pretty woman here will help her, but being conservative and white will hurt her.

The hacking of her private e-mail account is a petty and mean-spirited attack. The public will sympathize. Calling her unqualified because her teenage daughter got pregnant is a similar story.

The complaint that she's *lying* about representing a state with nearly 20% of the nation's oil and gas supply is also petty and mean-spirited. The public knows Alaska has "a lot" of oil, which is used to make "gas", and if they ever learn that Alaska has over 15% of the nation's proved oil reserves as of 2006 (45% if you count ANWR); the complaint will appear desperate.

She's not going to ban library books as president, much less vice president; that line of attack is a loony non-starter.

Substantial complaints about her would be something like she would support a conservative anti-Roe-v.-Wade judicial appointment or that she advocates drilling for oil that is somehow bad. You don't hear those arguments much at all.

Her modest decline will occur because her convention speech was so strong there will be nowhere to go but down. Overall she'll do fine, not because she's Teflon but because the public will see the arguments made against her are so weak.

Posted by: The Angry One | September 18, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

FLASH

Released just a few minutes ago.

Obama now leads by 4 among likely voters. Remember Mccain was up by 10 only a week ago on the same poll.
Mccain and Palin may set a record for flaming out in the shortest time. The Pailn effect is dropping like a rock. I bet Mccain wishes he had taken Romney now with all the financial stuff going on. Gimmicks only work in the very short run. With almost two months to the election he was nuts to try this and think he could ride it to November.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Just saw Rachael Maddow on MSNBC

Is that a boy, girl, what the hell is it?

Is it even Human?

Chevy

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Why does Palin hate America? Her and her husband both were in favor of Alaska seceding from the rest of the country? How is that patriotic? Man, I might have to sit home this election year or even worse, vote for a democrat.

Posted by: Chris | September 18, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Palin is all sizzle and no steak. She is like the perky weather girl TV stations used to hire to read the weather with a smile without knowing a thing about what she was reading. She would make a great living as an actress selling detergent in TV commercials.

She has charisma and presence, which we value in our society. Attractive, articulate people have a way of moving up fast in the world, even if they don't necessarily have the smarts, education, or experience of their peers. People want to like her.

I personally find her non-answers and repetitive use of her convention speech lines very unimaginative and indicative of an ordinary intellect.

Regardless of experience, I'm just not comfortable having our country run by a ticket composed of a president who was practically last in his class at the Naval Academy and a VP who bounced among 5 different schools just to get an easy bachelor's degree. I don't think we need to apologize for demanding that our leaders be among our best and brightest. Look at what we got with Bush...and I voted for him.

Posted by: Cynic1960 | September 18, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Palin if you were Hillary. I'd vote for you--but you are not.

Not at all.

Posted by: Former Hillary | September 18, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

JP Vanderbilt wrote: "Palin has had 2 EXECUTIVE postions. That means she has run governments."

As pointed out by none other than Karl Rove (except he was dissing Governor Tim Kaine at the time), Palin has 20 months of executive experience managing a population 2/3 the size of...Aurora, Colorado? Instead of capitalizing "executive", you should make it a footnote.

There's no logic to her teflon coating...but that's America for you.

Posted by: amaikovich | September 18, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

I love you, man, but what polls are you reading. Her approval ratings are dropping like a stone. Did you get this question from Drudge?

Posted by: Evil | September 18, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Chris, here's your answer:

McCain's other problem is that Sarah Palin may no longer be an asset to the ticket; in fact, she may be a liability. Averaging the candidates' favorability scores across four recent polls -- as one should always try and do when looking at favorability numbers since they can vary greatly depending on question wording -- Palin now has the worst net scores among the four principals in the race:

Palin's average favorability score is now a +7 -- about 10 points behind Joe Biden's numbers. Perhaps more importantly, these numbers are 10-15 points behind where Palin's numbers were just a week or so ago. If voters come in not knowing very much about a candidate -- and the more they see of the candidate, the less they like of the candidate -- this is a major concern.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/state-of-race-is-mccain-in-trouble.html

Posted by: TW | September 18, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Teflon? No, I'd say she's more like Corning Ware. White, pretty, and liked by the church casserole crowd. But prone to crack under direct heat...always has bits of dirt clinging on.

Obama? Cast iron. Black, strong, indestructible, but needs a little oil to prevent corrosion. Takes the heat and distributes it evenly.

McCain? An old crock pot. Has given years of good service but now prone to short-circuiting.

Biden? Old shiny tea kettle. Still gives a comforting cup of tea but there's that shrill whistle that someone else always has to turn off.

Posted by: McRumi | September 18, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I have a better question for ya Gizzilla

Why does NObama HATE America?

William Ayes does (NObama's close friend)

OBama's church Curses America

NObama Pastor curses America

Nobama refused to wear an American flag pin on his lapel, only Senator to take that stance.

Nobama refused to cross his heart during the pledge of alligiance.

NOBama's wife is always ranting against America "1st time i can be proud of America"

Need more examples idiot?

NObama makes me SICK, only an animal would support this America-Hating-Racist

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh, please. She has been in the public eye for all of three weeks. (She is brand new to at least 95% of Americans.) Let's please just let the dust settle before deciding if it sticks to her or not.

Posted by: m913 | September 18, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse


Spectator2 says, "Palin is irrelevant."

HA! Have you been living on Mars?

Palin is the reason that McCain has surged in the polls and will win this election.

Want to talk "irrelevant"?

Whatever happened to that Joe Biden guy? Is he still alive?

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

wonder if t here is any truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of issues and polls?

provided there is an election considering how the economy may put a stop to it or another Bush/Cheney orchestrated war with Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, etc.

apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy, exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

wonder how would they bump off mutual opponent?

will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time waiting? BTW, OJ is available as his trial is underway today.

will GOP use a Guiliani-like mob ties as used by his protege, ex-NYPD commissioner and was indicted for and may be doing up to 140 years of jail time? or use Gotti, Jr. who is also available as his trial is underway today too?

will both parties employ the popular law enforcement practice of 'sweetheart exchange deals' where convicts commit crime/murders in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits not suspected?

as this information is given, do we too have to worry about our personal safety? For example, should my diabetic husband worry about his health/life while doing his routine jog after work around 4-4:15pm in the Hackensack, Bogota and Teaneck, areas in NJ today? Do I have to worry about my own safety as I commute to the city via Port Authority bus this afternoon?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

She'd BETTER be Teflon...
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Philadelphia columnist threatens race war unless Obama wins..
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Fatimah Ali: We need Obama, not 4 more years of George Bush

By Fatimah Ali
Philadelphia Daily News

AMERICA is on the brink of a long, harsh and bitterly cold winter, with a looming recession that the GOP won't even admit to.
The policies of the current White House have brutalized our economy, yet the wealthiest think that everything is fine.

Rich Republicans just don't understand that millions are suffering. But many of their working class do, and they're beginning to abandon their own party.

When lifelong Republican Barney Smith told the Democratic convention that he'd vote for Barack Obama for president, he gave pause to even the most conservative members of his party.

Smith, like many disgruntled working-class Republicans, is ready to turn his back on his party because he's having such a hard time providing for his family. Like others, Smith fell victim to the loss of 3.2 million American jobs as factories closed or their work was outsourced to cheap labor markets overseas.

Poet Langston Hughes once wrote, "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, Life is a broken-winged bird that cannot fly, Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams go, life is a barren field, frozen with snow."

Many wealthy folks live in a dream state and ignore people like Smith, whose tale of personal woe preceded Obama's acceptance speech.

He opposes John McCain because, he says, America can't afford another four years of failed GOP policies that have extended $200 billion in tax cuts to big corporations but not to the nation's 100 million families.

Our national debt has soared from $5.6 trillion to $9.6 trillion under Bush. The Republicans have overstayed their welcome and dragged us into a nightmare that must end soon, or this nation may be headed for chaos.

Obama tugged on the nation's heartstrings when he challenged McCain's tough talk and told the truth about the current policies.

Critics of the GOP believe that a four-year extension of the Bush administration will be disastrous. People are struggling, and the privileged are so out of touch they pretend it's OK that children go hungry.

Over the last eight years, we've lost 3.2 million jobs, and started a war that's cost trillions. The lies and deceit that got us into Iraq in the first place are just the tip of the iceberg and have ruined America's reputation across the globe.

Meanwhile, our economy continues to crumble, while crime, homelessness and poverty continue to soar.

Despite the fact that thousands of immigrants risk their safety to come here because this country may offer them better opportunities, the truth is that poverty lives right here in our own backyard.

Suffering is widespread as the gap between rich and poor widens. The Bush administration doesn't get it and neither does McCain. He is so out of touch that he hasn't a clue how many homes he owns, while the working class struggles to hold on to one.

The Democrats desperately need many more voters like Smith to cross party lines in order to secure the White House. Obama says electing him to the nation's highest office will not only help restore America's moral standing globally, but will lift the nation's low morale and improve our declining economy.

He promises to cut taxes for 95 percent of American workers and ease the burden for millions of families. And I believe him, although his critics say he's out of touch with the working class and blast him for not having a lineage that includes slavery.

But just because his ancestors never wore shackles, and he has paid off the student loans from his elite education doesn't mean he doesn't have compassion. Or that he doesn't understand the pain of those who live in dire poverty, who've lost their homes, who want yet can't afford college, and who lack health insurance.

His acceptance speech indicated that, unlike McCain, Obama gets it because hard times aren't so far behind him that his memory's been erased.

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Plenty of Americans would rather stay in their dream state than to recognize the poverty sweeping across the country, right here, right now.

Obama understands that people are suffering. Every week, prices go up at the supermarket, and people are unable to feed their families. It already is dark and stormy for millions, who can't even afford pencils, book bags and lunch money for their children.

But when Obama wins the White House, we may just see a revolution that can turn the tide and improve this nation for everyone, not just a select few.

And I expect him to keep his word.*

Fatimah Ali is a regular contributor. E-mail her at fameworksmedia@yahoo.com.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I absolutely love Sarah Palin and I cannot wait to vote for her and Mr. McCain.

Posted by: Keith Wright | September 18, 2008 10:25 AM
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I hate to burst your bubble but
REMEMBER SPIRO AGNEW?

Am I the only one who sees what is going on here with Palin? We all know she has no qualifications and she was just picked as window dressing and as a stooge to say what ever they put in her mouth. No candidate in their right mind would really want her on their ticket. This is what I think will happen and may already be secretly in the plan.

If Mccain manages to get elected, they will get rid of Palin as soon as they can, using all of the scandal surrounding her as the reason. There is already information of drug use by her son and both daughters and Enquirer has eluded to something coming out about Palin and her husband are regular drug users. Once rid of her, Mcain then will put in Lieberman like he wanted to all along and that is how it will play out. What do you think, make sense?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I don't see the Teflon, just a Newt Gingrich level of polarization. I'm one of those who helped contribute $10 million to Obama in the 24 hours after Palin's convention speech (the Obama site was noticeably slower that day as it processed all the donations). For those like me, what we have here is the polar opposite of Teflon. God forbid this extremist should get anywhere near control of our nation's government.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | September 18, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Teflon? Try fly paper. Her scandals and lies are pretty inescapable.

You're reporting last week's story, Chris.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

PALIN IS A GORKY.

Posted by: KrisC | September 18, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

What Palin is, is irrelevant.

Obama is back up by 2. The Palin -- and therefore the McCain -- boom is over.

Posted by: Spectator2

-- He's up 5 and the true conservatives are abandoning there party.

Author of Citizen McCain Jumps ship.

How John McCain lost me
By ELIZABETH DREW

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13541.html

All that's left are the invited guests.
The Racists, Neo-Cons, Gun Nuts, and Jesus Freaks.

Anyone who is still supporting McCain belongs to one of those groups.

That's all they got left.

Posted by: Langx | September 18, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse


Uh, are we talking about the same Sarah Palin? see below.
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To me Gov. Palin represents the "wild west meets city slicker". She brings enthusiasm, love of family, and a deep respect for civic responsibility to the table. She does not appear to have that jaded, "hate America" and "whoa is me, we need to act like France" attitude that you find with Eastern liberals.

And isn't it great that she actually looks like a woman .... not those pinch-faced, sarcastic women that have come to represent women in politics.
Posted by: Oh yeah, she's Teflon | September 18, 2008 10:35 AM
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FROM THE FOLKS WHO BROUGHT JOHN EDWARD'S, THEY NOW BRINGS YOU: "TRACK PALIN"
THE COKE HEAD WHO BEAT GOING TO JAIL BY GOING IN THE MILITARY AND HIS WONDERFUL PARENTS WHO RAISED SUCH A FINE FAMILY.


The NATIONAL ENQUIRER’S exclusive ongoing investigation of GOP VP Nom Sarah 'Barracuda' Palin’s goes far beyond a mere teen pregnancy crisis this week!

The Enquirer’s team of reporters has combed the Alaskan wilderness to discover the hidden truth about Gov. Palin’s family, which has become a central part of her political identity.

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that Sarah's oldest son, Track, was addicted to the power drug OxyContin for nearly the past two years, snorting it, eating it, smoking it and even injecting it. And as Track, 19, heads to Iraq as part of the U.S. armed forces, Sarah and her husband Todd were powerless to stop his wild antics, detailed in the new issue of The ENQUIRER, which goes on sale today.

THE ENQUIRER also has exclusive details about Track's use of other drugs, including cocaine, and his involvement in a notorious local vandalism incident.

“I’ve partied with him (Track) for years,” a source disclosed. “I’ve seen him snort cocaine, snort and smoke OxyContin, drink booze and smoke weed.”

The source also divulged the girls would do anything for Track and he’d use his local celebrity status to manipulate other guys “to get them to steal things he wanted.”

“He finally did what a lot of troubled kids here do,” the source divulged. “You join the military.”

And as Gov. Palin has billed the state of Alaska for various expenses related to her children, as reported by The Washington Post, The ENQUIRER's investigation reveals that she was so incensed by 17-year-old Bristol's pregnancy that she banished her daughter from the house.

Another family friend revealed pre-prego Bristol was as much of a hard partier as Track was.

“Bristol was a huge stoner and drinker. I’ve seen her smoke pot and get drunk and make out with so many guys. All the guys would brag that the just made out with Bristol.”

When Sarah found out the teen was pregnant by high schooler Levi Johnston, she was actually banished from the house. As part of the cover-up, Palin quickly transferred Bristol to another high school and made her move in with Sarah’s sister Heather 25 miles away!

And the ENQUIRER also learned that Levi Johnston, the baby mamma’s future wedded dada, who was glad handed by John McCain at the GOP Convention, isn’t too happy about his impending shotgun nups either.

“Levi got dragged out of the house to go to Minnesota,” Levi’s friend told The ENQUIRER. “Levi realizes he’s stuck being with Bristol because her mom is running for Vice President.”

The friend also confided that both Bristol and Levi “broke up a few times and they definitely messed around with other people.”

Meanwhile, as members of the Palin family’s war viciously over “Trooper-Gate” and claims of Sarah’s extramarital affair have turned the political race into a chaotic arena of threats, denials and vicious attacks by political black ops, The ENQUIRER has discovered shocking new details about the red-hot affair scandal!

For the full story of the secrets Sarah Palin is trying to hide – pick up the new ENQUIRER!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Teh Bell Man, That was hilarious, i was spitting coffee out of my nose after reading your post. Great one...

Posted by: American First | September 18, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Have you ever heard any one say "whoa is me, we have to act like France"

And you know, you hit upon something - here's the difference between your wild west and your city slickery - In the city slicker's America, there's room for the wild west - in the wild west's America, if you disagree with them, you're unpatriotic and elitest

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 18, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse


Spectator2 says, "Palin is irrelevant."

HA! Have you been living on Mars?

Palin is the reason that McCain has surged in the polls and will win this election.

Want to talk "irrelevant"?

Whatever happened to that Joe Biden guy? Is he still alive?

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

That 80% is as phony as the rest of her resumé. It is like 60% and dropping with every poll. Actually it never was 80% that was just made up like much about her.


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Don't we all just love the site of liberals railing against a Governor who has a 80% approval ranking and actual accomplishments for VP using terms like inexperienced, vindictive, shallow and slim record when they have nominated a state senator with absolute no accomplishments for the Presidency!! That takes some audacity to borrow a phrase from their messiah.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin credentials:
-Graduated Idaho college(Journalism degree).
-Mayor of Wasilla(pop 5500(Budget $6,000-53 employees,won with 58% of votes:616), from 1996 to 2002, represents the bulk of her political experience.
Mayor:-approved funds to upgrade the public well
-issuing a restaurant permit and taking up a measure forbidding residents from operating bed-and-breakfasts in their homes. After a lively debate, the bed-and-breakfast measure lost, 4 to 1.
-Palin limited her duties further by hiring a deputy administrator to handle much of the town's day-to-day management. Her top achievement as mayor was the construction of an ice rink, a project that landed in the courts and cost the city more than expected.
-Fires a librarian.
-Rehires librarian after public outcry.
-In September 2002, she presided over her last City Council meeting. The council took up an ordinance to ban sex shops.
-Elected Governor of Alaska in 2006.
-sold a jet from previous from administration on EBAY.
-promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska.
-while initially supporting $223 million in federal funding for the "Bridge to Nowhere", Palin backed off when Alaska's share of the cost increased. Alaska did not return any of the $442 million to the federal government

Posted by: BLUTO | September 18, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

"Think about it."

I thought about it. You're wrong. Executive experience means jack compared to good judgment, intelligence, and knowing something about the issues. The polls have shifted back toward Obama. McCain loses.

Posted by: obama wins | September 18, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Let's see - small town mayor, small state governor - hired a city manager to actually run the small town - 6 colleges, then a sports broadcaster before hand - vs. Harvard, President of Law Review, community orgainzer, several term member of one of the most turbulent state legislatures, which has to balance the needs of a large city with downstate rural populations, 4 years of a term in the federal senate - running a hugely successful nomination campaign, creating a successful plan to derail a widely favored challenger - yeah, I'm going to take my chances with Obama.

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 18, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

When I hear women say they love her and will vote for her because she is a mom just like me (and I infer from that that they don't really care about anything else about her and so the "teflon" quality) I want to ask them this question:
"You have been offered a new job opportunity. But in order to interview for the job (not necessarily get it) you would have to humilitate your 17 year old daughter in front of millions of people. Would you do it?

I suspect most moms wouldn't do that and maybe, just maybe, if and when those women start thinking instead of reacting they would admit that that is a part of her character that they don't relate to.
And then her "teflon" coating will start to wear thin. (And, yes, I am a mother and yes, I would also question a male candidate's character under the same circumstances.)

Posted by: June | September 18, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Some of Obama's accomplishments:
-Graduated with a law degree(magna cum laude) from Harvard in 1991.
-First African-American president of the Harvard Law Review.
-Civil rights lawyer teaching constitutional law.
-Illinois State Senate, where he served for eight years.
-Illonois state senate:
-help working families get ahead by creating programs like the state Earned Income Tax Credit, which in three years provided over $100 million in tax cuts to families across the state.
-Pushed through an expansion of early childhood education.
-After a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

-In 2004, he became the third African American since Reconstruction to be elected to the U.S. Senate.
U.S. Sentate:
-His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent.
-Hada lead voice in championing ethics reform that would root out Jack Abramoff-style corruption in Congress.
-As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan.
-Recognizing the terrorist threat posed by weapons of mass destruction, he traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.
-knowing the threat we face to our economy and our security from America's addiction to oil, he's working to bring auto companies, unions, farmers, businesses and politicians of both parties together to promote the greater use of alternative fuels and higher fuel standards in our cars.

Posted by: BLUTO | September 18, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

To me Gov. Palin represents the "wild west meets city slicker". She brings enthusiasm, love of family, and a deep respect for civic responsibility to the table. She does not appear to have that jaded, "hate America" and "whoa is me, we need to act like France" attitude that you find with Eastern liberals.

And isn't it great that she actually looks like a woman .... not those pinch-faced, sarcastic women that have come to represent women in politics.

Posted by: Oh yeah, she's Teflon | September 18, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

NotaWPelitis: I think you wrote a typpo.

You meant to say that the press is seeing through the hypocrisy of the Republican Party.

Posted by: NotaWPelitis- Typo | September 18, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

It's the politicians who attain celebrity status that gain what gets called the "Teflon coating" that movie stars, rock musicians, and other People Magazine or Rolling Stones cover subjects have. But I'm not so sure that the Teflon analogy really captures what's going on. It's not so much that gritty dirt simply slides off them. The grit first gets rubbed on and polishes them, like a fine sandpaper might, and THEN slides off. They have to have the right surface quality for that. Non-celebrities have surfaces that just get dirty.
Ronald Reagan entered politics as a polished celebrity, with little going on below the surface. Clinton acquired a celebrity surface while actually having some depth to him. I don't really understand just how he did it. Palin just naturally looks and acts the part. Had she wanted to she could have gone the acting route. I have no idea whether her celebrity status will translate into enough fan votes for McCain/Palin to win. I am pretty sure, though, that if they lose we'll be seeing more of her. Celebrities are come-back kids.
Interesting that McCain tried to paint Obama as a celebrity. Didn't work.

Posted by: Phil | September 18, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if she's teflon but I do know she stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night.

So she's ready to lead. LOL

Posted by: Teh Bell Man | September 18, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but Jim, you've forgotten that in the current climate, the President's threat to veto anything he does not agree with leads to a stalemated congress, as Republicans would not vote to override a veto for most things, even if they made sense, so congress is stalemated by the inabiltiy of the current minority party to govern outside of their own narrow political goals.

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 18, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

What Palin is, is irrelevant.

Obama is back up by 2. The Palin -- and therefore the McCain -- boom is over.

Posted by: Spectator2 | September 18, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin Knows Foreign Policy

Look how close Alaska is to Russia!

Sarah Palin Knows Ireland

She had a layover there once.

Sarah Palin Knows the Bush Doctrine

Isn’t it about shaving down there?

Sarah Palin Knows Iraq

She got close once and saw it.

Sarah Palin Knows Education

She’s been to 6 colleges in 6 years!

Sarah Palin Knows Executive Decisions

Having run a state with a population the size of Anaheim, CA for less than two years.

Sarah Palin Knows Government Waste

She collected 27 million dollars in earmarks while mayor of a 9000 person town in Alaska.

Sarah Palin Knows The Bridge to Nowhere

She said yes before she said no, and then kept the money!

Sarah Palin Knows Scams

And paid herself thousands of dollars to live at home.

Sarah Palin Knows State Business

And apparently so do her children, to the tune of a $50K+ travel and expenses tab picked up by the taxpayers.

Sarah Palin now knows Abstinence Only education doesn’t work.

Well, maybe she doesn’t. But she does think it’s the only sex education your children should learn.

Sarah Palin Knows Sexism

It’s sexist when it’s applied to her, but its not when it’s applied to Hillary.

Sarah Palin Knows Creationism

And wants to teach it to your children as an equally plausible alternative to the theory of evolution

Sarah Palin Knows Books

And wants to ban the ones she doesn’t like from your local library.

Sarah Palin Knows Rape and Incest

And believes the victims should be forced to bear the child.

Sarah Palin Knows Welfare

Alaska receives more money from the Federal Government than any other state of the Union.

Sarah Palin Knows Country First

But she believes in Alaska First and supports a group that wants to secede from the Union.

Sarah Palin Knows George Bush

And wants to continue his policies for 4, 8? 12? 16? more years.


Sarah Palin

One 5-time face cancer, 72-year-old man heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Think about that when you go to the polls.


Posted by: GWequalsWPE | September 18, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse


bondjedi,

You were actually foolish enough to say that Palin has a "skimpy resume."

HA! Ever look at Obama's resume? It's even skimpier! At least Palin has had 2 EXECUTIVE postions. That means she has run governments.

With Obama, we don't even know if he could run a Taco Bell.

Think about it.

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

PALIN'S ALREADY HAD HER "15". NOW LET'S ASK:

WHAT'S REALLY BEHIND THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN?


There's an old adage in journalism: Once someone's picture appears on the cover of Time magazine, you know they're on their way down the other side of the mountain.

Posters here already have made the point: If you pay attention, you'll see that the Palin shooting star reached its apogee about a week ago. The polls are starting to tell the story. The economy has replaced lipstick on a pig as the leading indicator as to what's relevant in popular culture.

The poster who said it best is the one who liken Sarah Palin to Sajaya of "American Idol". Simon knew the score from the beginning, and the audience willingly played along with the joke -- until it became a tiring cliche.

Sarah Palin has become a tiring cliche -- from her screechy voice and her inane utterances to her comestically tanned gams, her librarian bun, and her Kowasaki eyewear.

CNN's running a story about a Palin-mania- inspired run on Kowasaki frames. Now watch how the price starts to plummet along with Palin's political stock.

Would YOU want to be seen with a woman whose style sense is as passe as her social views? I think not!

Now, here's a question for you and your readers that's truly relevant to what's roiling our world:
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GOVERNMENT TARGETING OF U.S. CITIZENS:
A ROOT CAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis

Posted by: scrivener | September 18, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Hello!!! Her popularity is declining overall and pretty sharply, too.

People are taking a second look and not liking what they're seeing.

Its been reported that Teflon maybe a cause of cancer.

Posted by: Palin's 15 minutes | September 18, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"Teflon" = easy to dismiss what the media shovels up about her

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Don't we all just love the site of liberals railing against a Governor who has a 80% approval ranking and actual accomplishments for VP using terms like inexperienced, vindictive, shallow and slim record when they have nominated a state senator with absolute no accomplishments for the Presidency!! That takes some audacity to borrow a phrase from their messiah.

Inexperienced...Presidential candidate Obama loses to Vice-President Palin as his only executive experience involves chairmanship of the Annanberg debacle which wasted 45 million dollars with no results. She has lead a city and a state along with numerous agencies.

Vindictive....Presidential candidate Obama loses again to Vice-President Palin as this is the very first campaign in which Obama is going to let the voters decide the outcome because in every other elections he has forced all his opponents off the ballot using lawyers including a long time mentor and friend. Nice character Obama is!

Shallow....Presidential candidate Obama wins this one as his entire campaign has been based on two words...HOPE and CHANGE...experience, health, legislative record, associations, religion, and education are all things which Obama has refused discuss or release information to the voters concerning. Obama has called them all distractions from his HOPE and CHANGE.

Slim Record....Obama major accomplishments, aside from those he has erroneousily attributed to himself with no evidence, mainly consisted of funnelling money to his slumlord friends in Chicago and protecting the Golden Rule of liberalism, abortion, by allowing live born babies to die without medical care. If a few babies have to die for the cause, too bad, can't infringe on radical feminists ability to discard inconvenient babies.

Despite the best efforts of the MSM to spread the lies of the nuts from the Daily Kos, Obama will lose in November to John McCain and Governor Palin will be Vice-President.

Posted by: LogicalUS | September 18, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Chris, please why don't you do some reporting about Sen Obama's and Sen Biden's record or lack thereof. One example, with all the analysis of Gov Palin's earmark requests why no analysis of the Obama and Biden earmark votes -- how much, to whom, and who was lobbying them. Why has Obama received so much money from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac? Why has Sen Obama not released a list of his advisors so we can gauge which of them are lobbyists and former lobbyist, since that is one of his signature issues. We know more about Gov Palin's teenage daughter's relationship with a young man than we know about Senator Obama's financial relationship with Rezko or the money he is alleged to have steered to many who are now his financial backers while in the Illinois senator for renovation of low-income housing that was misused. Only the blogosphere bothers to discuss such things, which leaves one unclear of the veracity of much of the information.

Posted by: jrterrier | September 18, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Was teflon, but once or twice through the wash, it's starting to wear off.

The reason she wants to "drill, baby drill!" is so John McCain doesn't run out of fuel to keep his pants on fire.

Posted by: LIAR!! | September 18, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is like a popular TV show ("Sarah!"), featuring a great script and a personable lead character. Over time, the scriptwriters have to keep coming up with new stories and the character has to evolve. Like all popular TV shows, Sarah Palin is going to jump the shark. Will she do it before or after the election? Stay tuned...

Posted by: dognabbit | September 18, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse


15 Minutes said,

"Palin won't answer a question without a script."

Well, Obama can't talk (even at a Rodeo) with out reading a script on a teleprompter.

HA! HA! HA!

GOTCHA!

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

To the writer of this blog. You seem to have left out Barack Obama as one of the few that seem to escape negative issues.

If you compare the issues the press is making of Palin most are just rumors generated to create havoc. Where as you have a real story of politics as usual coming from a candidate preaching change, that hasnt changed anything in his career, hasnt led any major legislation with the state or US senate, has successfully run a non-profit into the ground (annenburg), yet the MSM refuses to even do their due diligence on any of BHO's past.

Please dont insult our intelligence by claiming this latest witch hunt on the Rep. VP candidate is an issue of negative claims falling by the wayside, when they are either fabricated or insignificant, AND when the same vetting hasnt been applied to the Dem's Pres Candidate.

Get a new job.

Posted by: Jim | September 18, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I absolutely love Sarah Palin and I cannot wait to vote for her and Mr. McCain.

Posted by: Keith Wright | September 18, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

send in old bonershrinker

Posted by: dick cabesa | September 18, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

She can thank the biased media,Obama's sexist,dismissive and hateful comments and his vile supporters(have you ever seen huffpost,kos,MSNBC etc?)for the teflon coat.Most people I know,say common,give her av break.Dont wonder where all these people were when Obama started to run for president 2years ago with even less experience?Did they ever ask him any of these questions?Why did they initially ignore all the stories that they where forced to cover later-like serious flows including his associations with anti-Americans?Its true that he has become better known and better informed about issues after 18 months of primary campaigning but why this hesitancy to give Palin the time it took Obama to be what he is today?Double standards? Sexism?Fear of the race card being flashed(which is already happending)?

Posted by: S | September 18, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

No Palin is not Teflon.

Her popularity is declining in large numbers since 9/11.

Why would anyone vote for a candidate with a vp nominee who won't answer questions without a script.

I don't care if the vp nominee was superman or superwoman if you're not going to answer questions. I wouldn't vote for you.

It really bothers me.

This is a democracy right?!

Its just not right. Its actually really unnerving that people would vote for someone who they don't really know anything about off the script.

I might be more open to her if she took questions, but since she decided to take a few over 3 weeks later--it seems like she is take cramming for the presidency.

Oh well Americans voted George Bush in for a 2nd term. They'll be responsible for running their own country into the ground.

Posted by: Palin's 15 minutes are up | September 18, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Chris, I'm amused by this notion of Bill Clinton as a Teflon president, who negative stories never stuck to. Have you ever heard of a gal named Monica Lewinsky?

Even Reagan was termed Teflon before the days of Iran-Contra, my point being that dirt and mud sticks to all politicians, but for some pols people don't care. Reagan, Clinton, and Palin are all essentially likable, and likability was what enabled Bubba and The Gipper to appeal to a broad portion of the electorate (with the exception of the always unreachable wing nuts).

After McShame/Palin lose in November, she'll get four years to bolster her skimpy resume, and will be a force to be reckoned with for the GOP nom in 2012.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 18, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Jim: Plenty will pass when we have 60 votes in the Senate.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | September 18, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

When is she going to release her taxes? No one is pressuring her to do so even though McCain, Obama, and Biden have already released theirs. I myself wonder if her per diems were reported accurately.

Posted by: mydog2 | September 18, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

MORE HAS CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT PALINS ALLEDGED AFFAIR.
http://www.theveep.com

MORE PEOPLE SET TO TESTIFY IN TROOPER GATE
IS PALIN DONE? http://www.hotpres.com

DID PALIN VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE PRIMARIES?? http://www.BarrPaul08.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

If you have no values, you have no value.

Palin ain't teflon...just ignored.

Valueless, how can you take her seriously as an effective leader?

Posted by: The Far Side | September 18, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Ken in Dallas

Apparently you've forgotten that both houses for the past two years are controlled by Dem's. And have not only not passed any legislation of significance ( not mention doing the bare minimum in regards to budget), but have gone out their way to prevent even the fundamental act of legislative debate.

Might I add that the current financial crisis though influenced by many factors, stems in major part by the lending practices of Fannie May and Freddie Mac which lined the pockets (deeply) of BHO, and other Dems while the Republicans, back in 2005-2006 (including John McCain) voiced their warnings against the practices of these two sleezily run organizations, and tried to pass legislation to enforce some sort of accountability which was defeated by dems, which ultimately was spearheaded by BHO and company. So the problems we are facing today are caused by the Dems not the republicans as you so adamantly argue.


do some homework please before you rant.

Posted by: jim | September 18, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

She's a typical undereducated narrow minded provincial waiting for jesus moron.

Oh yeah! I want her near the Presidency.

(Maybe SHE's the anti-christ!)

Posted by: toritto | September 18, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Any criticism of Palin is an assault on congenitally resentful gun owners who have mothers, drive pickups with religious bumper stickers, watch sports, catch walleyes, but whose eyes glaze over at mention of Wall Street, that "alley of perdition." Better to elect, they think, people who know nothing of money, or think of it as lotto-manna to build bridges to nowhere, than the Obama-Biden pair: "Heck, they'd fall off a snowmobile from the get-go. Neither one 'o 'em can shoot. Just like Rush and Sean say, 'Can't trust the nation to them.'"

Add the 25 percent of the electorate with those views to the 30 percent "well to do" crowd that fear taxes and regulation more than a market meltdown, and the GOP has all the votes it needs.

Don't be surprised if, against all the pundits' odds, the McCain-Palin ticket wins. If their Treasury Secretary Phil Gramm does badly enough, maybe they'll be a one-term adminisration, but don't count out another play on populist resentment, or maybe a fresh war.

Posted by: jkoch | September 18, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse


Brian,

You can cry all you want, because your precious Obama, and his Euro-socialist beliefs are going down like the Titanic. Seen the polls? HA! HA! HA!

The truth is, while campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

WHY DOES THE WASHINGTON POST HAVE A BLACKOUT ON THIS STORY???

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

do people KNOW WHA the Keating 5 issues were about and why John Mccain was involved!

DEREGULATION AND HIS CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE LOBBYING FOR IT

and now Phil gramm the king of the deregulation lobby is writing his economic platform as the bull is coming out in the opposite direction from his mouth.

how many times can we have a collapse after John mccain has such a tight relationship and votes and creates economic policy based on this lobby's words and we say ...he is innocent...or at minimum even LOOK at this guy to take care of our economy.

go read the details of the Keating 5 people!!!!!

we have been here before and John mcCain was at the center of the issue.

Posted by: dl | September 18, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Drudge tell you this?

Posted by: Daniel | September 18, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

People like her and don't trust the media anyway. People have enough sense to see how biased the media is in favor of Obama.

Posted by: rh | September 18, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I am a liberal Republican (pro business but with more liberal leanings socially) and was carefully weighing who I would vote for. I was leaning McCain, but lately from what I have seen, I am pretty disgusted with him.

I was a McCain supporter in 2000 and believed him to be the Maverick that he is claiming today. But the lack of honesty in his ads and the outright deceptions from Gov. Palin have me frightened that we are in for four more years of the same. I was absolutely flabbergasted when McCain said that the fundamentals of our economy were strong and then tried to justify an incredible gaffe by saying he was referring to the American people. John McCain in 2000 would have never insulted our intelligence.

Secondly, I am in complete disgust over Gov. Palin's handling of troopergate. When the panel was convened by a vote of 8 Republicans and 4 democrats, she said she welcomed the investigation and that if she did something wrong, she wanted to be held accountable. I thought that was so refreshing and it made her an exciting candidate indeed. But it seems that whatever honesty Gov. Palin may have intended to bring has been shut down by the Bush/Cheney legal team. In other words, delay, claim bogus executive privileges (so Todd Palin is now on the Alaska government payroll as an advisor) and it looks horribly like she is hiding something.

As much as I hate to say it, I think Obama is right that McCain Palin are going to be four more years of the same. Accordingly, I am going to take Sen. McCain's advice and put country first. I am going to vote for Obama. I am not sure of the wisdom of my vote, but I know for certain that this country cannot afford four more years of the last eight.

Posted by: Liberal Republican voting for Obama | September 18, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

She's Teflon because she keeps repeating the same LIES and she won't talk to the press. As the fake Hillary Clinton said last week on SNL, the press needs to grow a pair or at least borrow hers.

Posted by: GWequalsWPE | September 18, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

REALITY~Obama is a high-siding Clown who loves the sound of his own voice(like Silk Pony adulterer Edwards liked to MIRROR/MIRROR on the Wall gaze at himself in narcissistic admiration). Both these Metromen deserve each other and permanent
birth on SNL/Comedy Central circuits that
comprise the essence of their political statures. To those who are still affixed by THE ONE,remember: YOU BECOME LIKE THAT WHICH YOU BEHOLD...or~ ARE BEHOLDEN TO...YET AMAZING IN POWER & STRENGTH Or: HOWLING WITH DREAD & PAIN(or in this case PAILIN)!!!

Posted by: Arthur F. McVarish | September 18, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

There once was a governor called Palin

Who got the press all worked up and wailin

She coiffed her hair high and belted out a cry

'It'll be Obama that we will be a nailin!"

Posted by: Tim McFall | September 18, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

(Whoops, I should have said "posters below" rather than "above." It's been one of those days so far...)

Posted by: Ann | September 18, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

obama is the media's child.
Palin is an adult

get over it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

She is awful and once she is exposed for the lying, grudge-holding, vindictive, bible-thumping moron she is (sound like someone else?), her negative numbers will go through the roof. She only seems teflon b/c she hasn't talked without having to read it from a teleprompter! She will get stomped in the debate but dogmatic republicans will still claimed she did "great" and "held her own" as if they were talking about some sort of disabled person. Sounds like the subtle sexism of diminished expectations?

Posted by: Tony | September 18, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse


**WHY IS SARAH TEFLON?**

It's because these were trumped up stories.

It's because the mainstream media (especially the Washington Post) is practically working for the Obama campaign.

It's because the mainstream media REFUSES to investigate the long list of shady activities in Obama's past.

AND, the American people see through this left-wing junk journalism.

THAT'S why she's "Teflon."

THAT'S reality. Sorry liberals.

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

chris

again

why in the face of this massive meltdown with deregulation

are we not talking about the fact that John Mccain had questions arise the last ime this happened because of his relationship with deregulation lobbyists and banks...that was the ENTIRE CRUX of whay the keating 5...well issues with politician deregulating voting records that opened up banks and investment to work the system for greed... and Mccain's vacationing with them and giving them contracts etc... is why he was questioned

now he has the deregulation lobbyists literally writing his economic policy as we see it collpapsing the industry again

AND NO ONE IS WRITING ABOUT IT!

wtf.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

In actuality, there's no such thing as a Teflon-coated politician.

With certain politicians, the public is more willing to forgive (or ignore) their faults and transgressions because they like them personally.

And Sarah Palin -- for most objective people -- is very likable.

Posted by: info | September 18, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The Teflon that coated Reagan and will continue to coat Palin is composed of respect – the respect that he had and she has for the US voting public. Their respect for us shines through; whereas, to Kevrobb (post at 8:29AM) and other elitists, we are “brainless, sophomoric and gullible.” The Teflon that coated Clinton and coats Obama is composed of media protection. Proof? Upon Reagan’s death about 79% of the nation mourned his passing and his stature has only grown since his death. Clinton’s Teflon disappeared when the media found its new darling Obama – just ask Hillary. Do you think 79% of the nation will mourn when Bill Clinton passes?

Posted by: SiouxLady | September 18, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

If this sorry prevaricator and knee-jerk conservative is "the real deal," as several posters above believe, then America is in more trouble than we thought. I would be the first to admit that Obama is far (and I mean far in italics and bold type, if such were possible on this board) from perfect, but the last thing this country needs is *two* clones of George W. Bush running things.

Posted by: Ann | September 18, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Mrs. Palin is going to have to start anwering some questions in these remaining weeks. She can't continue to give the same stump speach and not answer unfiltered questions. There are too many discovered holes in her story that she runs a risk of becoming a joke. The American people are not stupid. The longer she continues to ack as if they are, the shorter their love affair with her will be.

Posted by: Becraft | September 18, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

She has some teflon. She represents the sudden reversal for women who had hoped Hillary would be the female candidate. The Republicans have quickly appropriated the language of feminism to quickly swaddle her in the protective blanket of anti-sexism. But with time and the preponderance of issues over novelty, she has nowhere to go but down, especially after her stunning but scripted debut.

Posted by: Walter | September 18, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I assume John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential partner in a fit of pique because the Republican money men refused to let him have the stuffed male shirt he really wanted. She added nothing to the ticket that the Republicans didn't already have sewn up, the white trash vote, the demographic that sullies America's name inside and outside its borders yet has such a curious appeal for the right.

So why do it?

It's possible that Republican men, sexual inadequates that they are, really believe that women will vote for a woman just because she's a woman. They're unfamiliar with our true natures. Do they think vaginas call out to each other in the jungle night? I mean, I know men have their secret meetings at which they pledge to do manly things, like being irresponsible with their semen and postponing household repairs with glue and used matches. Guys will be guys, obviously.

But do they not know that women have been trained to resent other women and that they only learn to suppress this by constantly berating themselves and reading columns like this one? I'm a feminist who understands that women can nurse terrible and delicate woman hatred.

Palin was not a sure choice, not even for the stolidly Republican ladies branch of Citizens for a Tackier America. No, she isn't even female really. She's a type, and she comes in male form too.

John Doyle, the cleverest critic in Canada, comes right out and calls Palin an Alaska hillbilly. Damn his eyes, I wish I'd had the wit to come up with it first. It's safer than "white trash" but I'll pluck safety out of the nettle danger. Or something.

Doyle's job includes watching a lot of reality television and he's well-versed in the backstory. White trash — not trailer trash, that's something different — is rural, loud, proudly unlettered (like Bush himself), suspicious of the urban, frankly disbelieving of the foreign, and a fan of the American cliché of authenticity. The semiotics are pure Palin: a sturdy body, clothes that are clinging yet boxy and a voice that could peel the plastic seal off your new microwave.

'Turn your guns on Levi, ma'am'

Palin has a toned-down version of the porn actress look favoured by this decade's woman, the overtreated hair, puffy lips and permanently alarmed expression. Bristol has what is known in Britain as the look of the teen mum, the "pramface." Husband Todd looks like a roughneck; Track, heading off to Iraq, appears terrified. They claim to be family obsessed while being studiously terrible at parenting. What normal father would want Levi "I'm a fuc&in' redneck" Johnson prodding his daughter?

I know that I have an attachment to children that verges on the irrational, but why don't the Palins? I'm not the one preaching homespun values but I'd destroy that ratboy before I'd let him get within scenting range of my daughter again, and so would you. Palin's e-mails about the brother-in-law she tried to get fired as a state trooper are fizzing with rage and revenge. Turn your guns on Levi, ma'am.

Palin has it all, along with being vicious and profoundly dishonest. Just hours after her first convention speech, the Associated Press did a good fast listing of her untruths and I won't dwell on them.

I did promise to watch the entire convention so you wouldn't have to, but I discovered a neat trick. I switched between the convention and the 2003 folk music mockumentary A Mighty Wind on Bravo.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

The slurs about "liberal fascists" bore me, especially coming from supporters of a government that's put itself into the business of nationalizing major private enterprises. It's not the left that's in power, it's the extreme right that's doing what it's doing. I grant you that what the Bush administration is doing is contrary to laissez-faire philosophy, but they're still doing it.

The fact is that the Bush administration and Republican Congresses of the past eight years have been methodically dismantling the mechanisms that used to govern the markets' operation. Where McCain and the Commerce committee didn't eliminate law meant to keep market players honest, the Bush administration ignored the law, as it has done habitually. The fact that US markets are in chaos should surprise no one.

The direct cause of the financial crisis is that loan origination has been plagued with egregious and routine fraud, selling poison pill loans that never should have been marketed to anybody, without due underwriting diligence, and securitized bogus paper through Fannie and Freddie so they could go back and perpetrate the same fraud again and again. All the while, the administration turned a blind eye, and the markets got sicker and sicker.

The direct reason the government has bailed out formerly private financial institutions is that it hasn't done its job in anti-trust regulation. AIG should never have been allowed to get so big that its failure would trigger a market collapse, but that's where we are. Any time any business gets so big that it, individually, is vital to the economy, it becomes effectively a public trust, because the whole economy collapses if you let it fail AIG ought to have been broken up years ago, to dilute the risk posed by its excesive consolidation.

The true root cause of this crisis is that the Republicans have adopted the discredited dogma of laissez-faire, dressed up as something supposedly new called "supply-side economics." Laissez-faire works as long as we can assume that everybody plays nice, but people in business love to cheat, and when they do, laissez-faire fails spectacularly, just as we're observing this week. Laissez-faire invites overconsolidation, empowers corruption, and eventually leads either to massive interventions or market collapses.

If you really want smaller government, there is a way, but it's not laissez-faire. To get the result you say you want, you have to keep an eye on the players; you have a referee. Government is the only place to look for that referee. Government actually minimizes intervention by imposing ground rules and enforcing them, because the alternative is massive intervention when laissez-faire markets go out of control.

If the Republicans actually studied and understood the mechanisms of economics, they would never have resurrected laissez-faire, because it was an incompetent decision. By abandoning government's proper role in the marketplace, the Republicans created market conditions under which degeneration into chaos was only a matter of time.

Just to forestall the whines about the Democrats being in control of Congress, so this is all their fault, don't be ignorant. Firstly, this crisis developed over several years of fraud and neglect; the Democrats have been nominally in control of Congress for only a year and a half.

Secondly, part of the design of the Constitution is that a recalcitrant minority in the Senate is fully capable of preventing any and all action in Congress, and the Republican minority has been exercising that capability to the fullest for the past year and a half. If you want to know why Congress isn't getting anything done, find the Senators that reject compromise, because if the Senate can't agree on compromise, they just debate forever. That's how Congress is designed, and there are valid reasons for it to be so. Nonetheless, a strong minority of recalcitrant Senators who won't compromise on anything are enough to shut Congress down.

The Republicans remain the party in power, in control of the administration and able to stymie any action in Congress. The Republicans are the party responsible for the failure of governence that created our ongoing fiascos.

Posted by: Ken in Dallas | September 18, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I don't plan to vote for McCain-Palin, but I can honestly say that it's based upon their policy stances, not their personalities. (I do find Gov. Palin a little irritating, but if I agreed with her on the issues I'd look past it.)

That being said, I think that her sheen will wear off ever so slightly. Some of the voters who were excited by her story may peel off when they know more about her governing style and beliefs. My guess is that her favorables/unfavorables will draw closer, probably in the 40/35 range.

What might help that number is if she stopped using the "Bridge to Nowhere" talking point. Those who read the newspaper know she originally supported it and took the federal appropriations even when it crashed and burned. A little honesty goes a long way.

Posted by: Adanielch | September 18, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I can agree with the Teflon comparison but I would like to add to that. She reminds me more of an Abrams Tank. Why a tank, Mainly because the attacks on her are meant to kill and maim. I have never been more excited about a candidate and the more the media hates on her the more I like her. I am mormon and her being evangelical is one of my concerns. Also I hope she can deliver on what she is saying. She has kind of been elusive to the media but that is understandable considering. I know the democrats hate this but I like it that she is a vindictive grudge holding woman. In Alaska she found out who was in her way and eliminated them. Tank. Van Halen Palin!!!

Posted by: Cameron | September 18, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

She's new and reporters love new.
Now that the coverage is turning more critical, assessing who Sarah Palin really is, her (woefully minimal) qualifications and her avowed stand on the issues, people are seeing her as a hard-right fundamentalist ideologue with W's policies stamped on her feverish little brain. They're also seeing that she's a vindictive bully whose sunshiney smile covers a nasty, ruthless, and ambitious politician.
Gee, do you think her popularity will go down as the truth comes out?
I do.

Posted by: DB | September 18, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

No. She _was_ until her lies became evident, she tanked with Charlie Gibson, & she backtracked & waffled on cooperating with the Troopergate investigation.

Now, she's being exposed one embarrassment at a time. The Kool-Aid drinking "true believers" on the Right will stick by her, but the true Independents & Democrats will see her for the right-wing radical neo-con she is.

And, they will NOT vote for her, McCain, & 4 more years of Bush policies.

Posted by: Tom in Rochester, NY | September 18, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Palin is old news and is having little lasting impact on the race. Look at the new polls.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | September 18, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

ONLY TIME CAN TRULY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION CHRIS!!

As to why Pres. Clinton and Pres. Reagan were so Teflon, I believe they both have the Americans' trust, and they never violated that trust. Because of this trust, Americans were very forgiving towards them.

BTW, my hope is that Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin will earn this badge of trust from the American people. As for Sen. Obama, Sen. O has completely violated Americans' trust; even though, he has been in public eyes for short period of time.

Posted by: Teflon Don | September 18, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Americans have good instincts when it comes to political promotion by the candidates. It comes from the seeds of personal experience of the candidates, and becomes rooted in

Even though networks like CBS try to manipulate interviews by selective editing, voters still see the what is real and what is manufactured. Why do you think McCain is still holding even with Obama?

Posted by: anotherview | September 18, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Seriously, Mr. Chinchilla? You're baffled?


The most likely explanation of Palin's popularity is that the only thing most Americans know about her is that she's a "hockey-mom" from Alaska.

Most people are what you would call "low-information" voters. They get most of their news second or third hand from friends and family.

And, frankly, I don't coverage of the troopergate scandal, or of her tenure as the earmarks-seeking vindictive mayor of Wasilla has permeated beyond print reports.

How many Americans read newspapers again?

I suspect, though, that in a few weeks, when all of this news filters out her negatives are going to go down.

Are there people for whom Palin can do no wrong, of course. Even Bush has support amongst 1 in 3 individuals.

But will Palin be the phenom she was at her convention debut, no.

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Posted by: el_barto | September 18, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Forget Chris...he's an idiot. He can't think for himself. He needs Matt Drudge to tell him what to think. BTW, which school did you go to Mr. Cillizza? I wanted to make sure my son didn't go there by mistake.

Posted by: playa | September 18, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

"...She's called a liar, but we see that she IS NOT..."

Ummmm, well, she IS a verified liar. She's lied about all sorts of things. Earmarks. Bridge to Nowhere. Visiting Iraq and Ireland. Selling the plane. Alaska's contributions to the nation's energy supply. Obama's record. How previous VIce- Presidential candidates haven't had any foreign policy experience. Palin is, in fact, a continual, habitual liar. Is there anything this woman won't lie about?

Teflon? I don't think so. We've only had a few weeks to find out about her essential character and her stances on the issues. I feel she'll continue to come apart as the international media spotlight gets hotter and hotter.

Her star is descending as I type this, and not a moment too soon. We need to get deadly serious about the genuine issues of this election and let Sarah Barraclueless flame out on her own.

Posted by: realitycheck | September 18, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

For the most part, the American people are fair minded and will give someone a chance before giving someone a negative rating. So little is known of Palin that alot of people will not give her a negative rating. I believe that once they learn more about her, they will be put off by her narrow way of seeing things and inability to understand the big picture and figure out the complexities of the current world situation that our leader must do in order to keep America competitive in the face of increasing world competition

Posted by: verycreative | September 18, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

There's a big difference between Teflon and a flash in the pan. Shame on you if you can't tell.

Posted by: Optimyst | September 18, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

She's Teflon because you media have completely lost your credibility in attacking her over stupid stuff. So now, whatever she does, she will get a pass on, because we simply do not trust you to be unbiased after so many hit pieces on her.

Don't say you weren't warned ... her Teflon is ALL your fault.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Her negatives have shot up in the Research 2000 tracking poll, which assesses this daily. Her negs coincide with the end of McCain's McBounce. She's now a liability. Case closed.

Posted by: ajacobs | September 18, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is no Ronald Reagan and she certainly isn't Bill Clinton. She's having her 15 minutes but the clock is ticking...

Posted by: Jeremy | September 18, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

The news all over this morning is that Palin's private email account was hacked and isn't that just terrible. What nobody seems to be saying is, isn't it terrible that a Governor deliberately used, and instructed her staff to use, a private email account to avoid public scrutiny of state business. I see this---that focus is on the hacking rather than the attempt to avoid scrutiny---as a good example of Teflonhood. Palin's rabid supporters are folks who don't think with their heads, but with their gastrointestinal tracts. They simply do not CARE that a scheming, lying, poorly-educated beauty queen of a religious zealot is quite likely to be President of the United States within the next five years.

Posted by: Roberto | September 18, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I just watched the Faux interview w/ Hannity. My first thought was, was Hannity even necessary? Seems like it was just Palin and her talking points. This was a joke.

I like the explanation of McCain's statement "the fundamentals of the economy are strong". If you ask any economist about that statement, would they think you were referring to the workers and their ingenuity?

Teflon scratches (and causes cancer).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Have you even listened to her? She is inept and as Carly said unable to run a company let alone a country! LOL and you use the word teflon? She is a known LIAR and has ETHICS issues and her own state is trying to get rid of her!

Posted by: Deanna | September 18, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

The Palin trick probably is the most effective one the republicans have pulled in recent times.What they actually did,was to pull a page out of the extreme lefts play book-of making a celebrity out of a nobody/ new comer and exploiting the situation to the fullest-just like what the liberal base did with Obama.Palin placed a mirror right infront of Obama and he can see a more energetic,though different in ideology,clone thats equally inexperienced.If the republicans are lucky,the Halo will last for just enough time for them to pull it off in Nov.Obamas novelty at the same time is 2years old and wearing off fast.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

The reason Palin is "teflon" has little to do with her and everything to do with the diminished esteem most Americans hold for the press. The liberal coastal media has gone completely off the reservation in its efforts to smear Palin, who by all accounts is a pretty nice person and a pretty darn good governor. Yet to hear the Washington Post or the NY Times tell it, she spends most of her time roasting small babies on bonfires constructed of burning copies of Charlotte's Web and Goodnight Moon. It's pathetic.

Better still, your column further reinforces how frustrated the media is now feeling that their wildly hyperbolic attacks are - gasp - not working! Americans thinking for themselves and judging Palin on their own rather than just marching in tune to their media betters?!

If you REALLY wanted to talk about Teflon, you should talk about how Obama has been caught having subversive discussions with Iraqi leaders in an effort to keep U.S. troops in Iraq until after the election so he can use that fact to score political points. This actually violates the Logan Act, which prohibits citizens from contravening the foreign policy of the U.S. government. WHERE ARE THE NEWS STORIES ABOUT THIS? A presidential candidate trying to set up a shadow government before he even gets elected? Are you kidding me?

Since the NY Post broke it, only right-leaning blogs have followed this story. The discussion in major leftist media has been nothing but crashing silence. It truly begs the question: if Obama really is so freakin' awesome, why do you have to work SO HARD to cover for him all the time?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Chris is worshiping at the alter of Matt Drudge with this idiotic question but hey Chris....the popular boy Matt laughs at you LOL behind your big hairy back just like the popular kids did in high school and I should know! I watched them do it!

Posted by: Brian | September 18, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Not to bring up old scandals for old scandals sake

but jeeez Chris

the giant elephant in the room...

...Can someone acknowledge at the least...take a look at explaining the unbelievably similar issues here with the Keating 5 questions.

Why are you all avoiding that.

the same issues with deregulation with John Mccain's support and questions of his involvement with the lobbyists "who worked the regulators" like Mccain is working the press now...as he hires those same deregulation lobbyists to write his economic policy...

seems like a GIANT elephant in the room.

Posted by: dl | September 18, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

It is too early to say whether Palin has that "teflon" that Reagan and Clinton seemed to have. I think she has it though but the reason why is probably common to Reagan and Clinton. Palin's surge is as much about her as it is about the unfairness of the criticisms against her. She is a likeable person and she is simply a "regular" person -- much like Clinton going to McDonald's -- people can see themselves sitting down and having a conversation with Gov. Palin about anything -- substantive or immaterial. She can speak with the working families, especially the mothers, but she has also shown an ability to take Alaska's established politicians and say some things need to change. The best "scandals" they can find to detract from Palin are petty political fights that everyday people simply do not care about. She fired someone who served at her pleasure -- Democrats have attempted to turn this into some moral failing -- shows pettiness. She took and requested federal earmarks -- name a state governor that refuses federal funds. The fact remains that reduced the number of requests and cut state spending.

The Teflon may rub off but she is likeable -- that should not really change. Certainly the far-left, Daily Kos crowd will hate her simply because she is Palin (R) and not Palin (D) -- the inverse is true for the far right. Those in the middle see someone who speaks like they do and while religiously and socially conservative, she has not governed that way.

Posted by: Chad | September 18, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Let's see...the snarky, sarcastic lines denigrating "community organizers," the complete debunking of almost her entire RNC speech, the sequestering from questions, the awakening of Repubs to sexism after 50 years, shooting wolves from planes, tanning beds, insecure emails, etc., etc.

Were there some positives? This was clearly a move to placate McCain's "base - the press. Give the media a shiny, new distraction and they'll report that McCain events now have crowds where before they were begging people to show up. The media reports 7000 at a Colorado McCain/Palin rally but does not mention that Obama drew almost double that nearby the same day.

Palin's numbers have fallen steadily since her introduction to the national scene. She may prove to be Teflon later in her career, but for this election cycle, she's just another distraction to keep the discussion off-topic.

I don't know what's sadder - the cynical McCain campaign or the gullible media that takes their cynicism at face value.

BTW, what's up with the phrase NObama? Can someone explain what that is supposed to mean?

Posted by: RoxTex | September 18, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign is "spewing venom" about Palin?? What is that about? She is what she is--a self-proclaimed "pit bull with lipstick."

The more the public become aware of her right-wing evangelical mindset, the more scars in the so-called "teflon." Poor teflon is far from impervious.

What we really should be discussing is McCain's judgment in selecting someone so unqualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Posted by: Jan | September 18, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Let's see...McCain handed a failed beauty queen that cannot string together her own sentences and the bun wearing GOP women get all excited but the educated people in the country ask questions she could not answer, her own state is investigating her...and you even use a word like teflon Chris? LOL Checked out the polls today? Might make you look less like an idiot.....Palin and McCain are dropping like rocks in the polls.

Posted by: Deanna | September 18, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Palin has no teflon and Cillizza is an idiot for wasting space with this garbage. (But then he is a typical MSM "journalist.")

Posted by: Docbox88 | September 18, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

My theory about Sarah Palin is that she is, to Republicans, like the person you meet and are immediately smitten with, but you delay bringing home to your parents (i.e., the media) because you know they're going to start asking questions like, "what is it, exactly, that you do for a living?" and "where did you say you were living?" You don't want your bubble burst. She also appeals to the GOP because despite all those kids and her demanding work schedule, you never hear a word from her about day care costs, work-home balance or anything that might imply that we can't all single-handedly raise five children, including one handicapped infant, while running a state, running for vice president and keeping our (excuse the cliche) lipstick fresh.

Posted by: kba | September 18, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

We like Sarah Palin, that's why.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Palin's star is already flaming out.

Her problem isn't negative press....so what, she's a schemer, a small minded vindictive pol and religious zealot, who went after her ex BiL because he had a messy divorce from her sister. And she values her cronies....there's a political news flash LOL.

Palin's problem is she's rapidly being perceived as an empty vessel, empty headed, who can read a speech or recite a talking point, but little else.

When asked what specific expertise she brings to the foreign policy arena, her only response was she's ready to serve.

Isn't that the boyscout motto ?

Posted by: MA | September 18, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

P Vanderbilt wrote:

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

WHY DOES THE WASHINGTON POST HAVE A BLACKOUT ON THIS STORY???
:::::::::

BECAUSE THE MEDIA ARE LYING & BOOSTERING FOR OBAMA

BEEN THAT WAY SINCE THE START OF PRIMARIES

CAN'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ ABOUT MCCAIN-PALIN

CAN'T ASSUME THEY'RE NOT HIDING STORIES ABOUT OBAMA

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I think that Palin will drop fairly quickly once the McCain controllers are forced to allow her to be interviewed and the VP debate takes place. She has already demonstrated an lack of knowledge about foreign affairs, the economy and domestic affairs. Continued sound bites won't cut it for much longer. Most women aren't stupid and won't vote for a female Dan Quayle.

Posted by: ethks | September 18, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

TO JP Vanderbuilt....were your parents breeding for stupid? LOL Go find the Rush addicts to peddle your lies to and go ahead and post another url that leads to a right wing rag and not a publication that is reputable....

Posted by: Brian | September 18, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Wrongo on Obama and Palin have the same weakness...he has NEVER been under investigation for ethics abuse, he has NEVER requested funds that put moeny into the pickets of cronies such as Palin has done with the bridge to nowhere that crosses land owned by Stevens and Young in Alaska, he KNOWS what the Bush Doctrine is and last but not least? He didn't preach abstinance to everyone except his own daughter! The same? LOL Like comparing an idiot to the teacher.

Posted by: Deanna | September 18, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Chris...Chris...Chris

Generalizing just a little are we? A little shallow are we? You basically suggest that despite the various missteps by Palin and the media's "pounding" of her, she remains popular with the voters. Oh, yeah...how's that? I think what you mean is women GOP voters, who Palin is going to be "popular" with whether she was a small-town waitress or a small-populated state governor. To suggest she's popular with voters (as in all) is as silly as to suggest she is not being (so far) handled by the media with "kid gloves." Otherwise her own enormous missteps would have already convinced the GOP to take her off the ticket. And are you suggesting the media should not scrutinize her background, opinions, past official decisions, judgements just as the media does with all the candidates?

Posted by: A Journalist | September 18, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"Losercuda" wrote:

"The 'Teflon' label carries with it a few components which the Zero doesn't have..."

Is "the Zero" the one on the ticket called "The Hero and the Zero"?

Posted by: frequent reader | September 18, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse


***BOMBSHELL***

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

WHY DOES THE WASHINGTON POST HAVE A BLACKOUT ON THIS STORY???

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I think that since the press didn't have time to "vet" her before the announcement, that gave many Americans the opportunity to make a very quick assumption about her without the distraction of a favorable or unfavorable press. We rarely have this opportuinty when it comes to candidates, so the image that most people had of her shortly after the announcement will most likely stick for good, lest there be some monumental unknown scandal that she's hiding. (And no, private email for business use doesn't count.)

Posted by: Dustin Moody | September 18, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

It's because these were trumped up stories.

It's because the mainstream media (especially the Washington Post) is practically working for the Obama campaign.

It's because the mainstream media REFUSES to investigate the long list of shady activities in Obama's past.

AND, the American people see through this left-wing junk journalism.

THAT'S why she's "Teflon."

THAT'S reality. Sorry liberals.

Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 18, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Too early to say. I think this early in the process after picking someone so unknown with such a slim record, it's natural that the public would only just now be beginning to know about her.

It won't be for another month before we know whether she's Teflon.

Posted by: JCHJ | September 18, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I would like to see the breakdown of Very Favorable and Very Unfavorable. I know that I hang out with people who are just like me, but the vile reactions to Palin, seen as an Insult to the Intelligence of American Women, are very strong. I don't think she's teflon-coated because we still haven't seen her under real pressure. If she survives THAT then we can conclude she is smarter than I think or American Women are overall dumber than I think.

Posted by: FashionistaMomDC | September 18, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Chris....Do you even bother to read your own paper? ROTFLMAO Apparently not!
McCain/Palin...BOTH dropping in ALL polls. She is a liar as McCain is. Proven fact and her attempt to dodge the law has turned this Republican against her. Troopergate shows her inability to act in a manner befitting the office of VP. After Cheny and Bush? We recognize damaged goods and your teflon candidate? Is damaged goods...but hey keep dreaming and then go have coffee with Matt Drudge and you can both lie to each other. See ya in November.

Posted by: Larry | September 18, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Earlier I said that the attacks on Palin were off-base and elitist. I'd like to expand on how bad the attacks are.

All of Sarah Palin's would-be weaknesses on which she has been attacked are also Barack Obama weaknesses. She has been attacked on being an member of an unusual religion, an alleged lack of experience, failings of a family member, being from a narrow slice of America irrelevant to most Americans, and so on. Each of these attacks, if turned back on Obama, are much worse for the democrat. His religion, his lack of experience, his disliked family member (his wife), his alien "Otherness" -- these are all issues on which Obama is more weak than Palin, and are issues on which the press has never fully vetted him. E.g. any swing voter who can really be swayed by the attack on Sarah Palin's religion are already more turned off by Barack Obama's more, and anyone who can be afraid of a two-year Governor's inexperience will be more afraid of the inexperience of a freshman senator. In summary, everything that Sarah Palin can be criticized on is a bigger turn-off in Barack Obama's resume. This is in part why she was a perfect pick as a foil for Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse


Teflon for President - low fat fried America.

Posted by: ratl | September 18, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

palin is "popular" in the media because she is a novelty act. there are no strengths there and even to suggest that she is teflon is silly. if she appears so, it's only because the media paints her so. her veneer is not teflon, it's a cheap varnish: shiny at first and then, quickly, dull.

Posted by: mb | September 18, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has had appeal as a novelty. She’s like the Republican party’s youtube celebrity – and like all youtube celebrities, her time will pass. Beyond her unusual story, she has also benefitted from low expectations set by the questions raised when her nomination was first announced. Now, having nailed her first speech and with a growing reputation, the expectations for her are much higher. Not all of her appearances between now and the election will be as impressive – she’ll fall flat at some point. As her record and her personality are put under the microscope, and as she fails to show much understanding about domestic and international issues, swing voters will lose interest.

Posted by: dhr5s | September 18, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Polls they don't show Palin's popularity. They show how many political ignorant we have in this country.

Posted by: B.B | September 18, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse


This is a strange election. Based on economic and other trends, Obama should be a shoo-in. I think his race prevents that. Sad, but true (if people were really against Obama for other reasons, that would not be sad).

So, we come to Palin, the surprise from McCain. (A lot of people thought he needed a woman, but almost no one thought he needed this woman (which is not a put down, but merely a comment that he surprised the heck out of just about everybody.)

She clearly speaks to the base. And she speaks well (even if she is reading it, many politicians do, most of us don't care). Then we start to hear about problems with her.

But many people ignore the problems and cling to her. She seems to be teflon coated, no matter what she does, she escapes. Why?

It is hard for people in modern society to admit they won't vote for a Black man.

But, if instead, they are voting for a woman? Well, then, that's okay. And she needs to be teflon coated so folks don't need to look too deeply at the "whys" of her support.

Beyond the hard core right, whom she ably represents, she is a safe harbor for folks who are uncomfortable with a Black man as president (see, I AM voting for change, just a different change).

So, yes, she is teflon-coated (and THIS is not her fault or doing, though she takes advantage of it), and she will be teflon-coated as long as many Americans are uncomfortable voting for a Black man.

Posted by: PatrickInBeijing | September 18, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I wish I could say this is a silly, trivial issue, but it isn't. George Bush won in 2004, despite his horrible series of blunders, including both invading Iraq on false pretenses, then mangling the occupation because the serious charges of incompetence didn't stick. It's still hard to imagine how effective were the lying swift boat attacks that ended up elevating Bush, who avoided service and whose incompetence cost the lives of US soldiers in Iraq, over Kerry, a decorated veteran of actual combat in Viet Nam. Despite Kerry's bumbling campaign, part of the reason was Bush's teflon suit. Public opinion didn't catch up with Bush until safely after the election.

In Palin's case, her teflon is only effective with the evangelical Christians and to far-right Limbaugh-controlled robots so evident in posts to this blog. The latter will continue to allow themselves to be manipulated, but I really wonder if the religious right will stay this enthusiastic. It's clear that McCain is not one of them and won't let Palin do much of anything he doesn't support should they win the election. Evangelicals were outraged following the 2004 election once they realized they were cynically manipulated to vote Republican, then immediately forgotten once the votes were tallied. The McCain campaign seems to believe they are stupid enough to be sucked in one more time. In condemning the stream of outright lies coming from the McCain/Palin campaign, Obama stated firmly that he does not believe people are stupid. I believe this expresses his true sentiment. I hope he's right. After all, Obama's policies on the economy, health care, taxation, the environment and foreign policy will benefit one and all, not just the Democratic base.

Posted by: Jon | September 18, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

AGAIN. MORE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS.

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Anonymous writes: "She can actually thank Obama's vile comments and his supporters(including his media lapdogs)rabid attack on her for that."

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GIVE US PROOF. CITE FIVE VILE COMMENTS by Obama.

I implore you. Give us five. Too many? How's about three examples?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Ever since Palin was nominated, there's been a naggy movie clip in the back of my mind. Okay, I'm old, so you may not remember this, but there is a great scene in the film Broadcast News between Albert Brooks and Holly Hunter when Brooks tells her that the new anchor (Wm. Hurt) is the devil. He makes his case by pointing out that the devil won't claw and scream and shriek; no, the devil will be attractive, nice, charming and helpful--everyone will like him. Then, slowly but surely, he'll lower all our standards and eat away at our integrity. Now, as you can probably tell by now, Sarah Palin scares me to death, for a lot of those kinds of reasons--right? how can someone that attractive and charming and spunky hurt anything? Except maybe moose and caribou. But play out her world view--and lack of experience--in a position of real power and the prospects are frightening. The teflon effect shows every indication of being in play--maybe if you got a really cranky, old, white man to say the same things, people might snap to the danger here. Oh, wait . . .that's McCain!

Posted by: Mainer | September 18, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I have a better question for ya Gizzilla

Why does NObama HATE America?

William Ayes does (NObama's close friend)

OBama's church Curses America

NObama Pastor curses America

Nobama refused to wear an American flag pin on his lapel, only Senator to take that stance.

Nobama refused to cross his heart during the pledge of alligiance.

NOBama's wife is always ranting against America "1st time i can be proud of America"

Need more examples idiot?

NObama makes me SICK, only an animal would support this America-Hating-Racist

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

The news media is now so fragmented that negative stories of Palin do not reach her admirers. If you only listen to Limbaugh and watch Fox News, how would you know Palin has any negatives?

Posted by: Terry | September 18, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I believe Palin is about to Flame-out. The Email fiasco highlights many shortcomings and is something to which most can relate. Doing government business on a vulnerable Yahoo email account indicates a lack of judgment on many levels. Add to that that this focuses attention on the fact that Palin and her close circle of advisers had schemed to use these insecure email accounts to circumvent subpoenas and the question becomes, What did they HAVE to hide?

Posted by: David F NYC | September 18, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Gosh Chris..behind the times much? She has already fallen by 10 points this week alone. Teflon? LOL scratched teflon maybe but she is one of those that the more you know of her? The less you like her.

Posted by: Deanna | September 18, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Teflon first bubbles, chips then rusts. The timing of the election may not let her deteriorate fast enough. Sarah more and more appears to be a typical politician who is very much styled like George W - a divider not a uniter. I thought uniting was a claim of McCain's campaign. Further Sarah very much contradicts herself as a fiscal conservative - how can you possibly PROMOTE the pro life cause within the confines of fiscal conservatism. The taxpayers will hold the bag for programs to help fiscally unprepared parents plus all those junkies who will have more babies that need extra lifelong care as Sarah even offers these special citizen's a bigger voice in Washington. This ticket is a Bridge to Nowhere! Neither party can handle the economy - Life versus Better Life will be a huge issue in this election.

Posted by: Cforchange | September 18, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Chris, you and your friends at the WP can't stand that the fact that the American people are seeing through your hyprocricy. What really bothers you is that Obama`s favorable numbers are lower than Palin--even thought he´s received a hell of a lot more favorable coverage (especially from the WP).
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Baghdad Bob, where have you been? We've missed you so much!

Posted by: atsah | September 18, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Reagan, Clinton - two of the most wildly successful Presidents in modern times. Maybe they were "teflon" because the public was smart enough to see through the ravings of partisan ideologues and their allies in the media.

Palin is in good company.

Posted by: Vern | September 18, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Dude, Has she had any serious press conferences?

She isn't teflon, she's hiding from the press and the McCain campaign wants us to just trust the GOP and vote for this unknown rock star.

Trust the GOP at this point? What a hoax.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse


FROM THE FOLKS WHO BROUGHT JOHN EDWARD'S, THEY NOW BRINGS YOU: "TRACK PALIN"
THE COKE HEAD WHO BEAT GOING TO JAIL BY GOING IN THE MILITARY AND HIS WONDERFUL PARENTS WHO RAISED SUCH A FINE FAMILY.


The NATIONAL ENQUIRER’S exclusive ongoing investigation of GOP VP Nom Sarah 'Barracuda' Palin’s goes far beyond a mere teen pregnancy crisis this week!

The Enquirer’s team of reporters has combed the Alaskan wilderness to discover the hidden truth about Gov. Palin’s family, which has become a central part of her political identity.

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that Sarah's oldest son, Track, was addicted to the power drug OxyContin for nearly the past two years, snorting it, eating it, smoking it and even injecting it. And as Track, 19, heads to Iraq as part of the U.S. armed forces, Sarah and her husband Todd were powerless to stop his wild antics, detailed in the new issue of The ENQUIRER, which goes on sale today.

THE ENQUIRER also has exclusive details about Track's use of other drugs, including cocaine, and his involvement in a notorious local vandalism incident.

“I’ve partied with him (Track) for years,” a source disclosed. “I’ve seen him snort cocaine, snort and smoke OxyContin, drink booze and smoke weed.”

The source also divulged the girls would do anything for Track and he’d use his local celebrity status to manipulate other guys “to get them to steal things he wanted.”

“He finally did what a lot of troubled kids here do,” the source divulged. “You join the military.”

And as Gov. Palin has billed the state of Alaska for various expenses related to her children, as reported by The Washington Post, The ENQUIRER's investigation reveals that she was so incensed by 17-year-old Bristol's pregnancy that she banished her daughter from the house.

Another family friend revealed pre-prego Bristol was as much of a hard partier as Track was.

“Bristol was a huge stoner and drinker. I’ve seen her smoke pot and get drunk and make out with so many guys. All the guys would brag that the just made out with Bristol.”

When Sarah found out the teen was pregnant by high schooler Levi Johnston, she was actually banished from the house. As part of the cover-up, Palin quickly transferred Bristol to another high school and made her move in with Sarah’s sister Heather 25 miles away!

And the ENQUIRER also learned that Levi Johnston, the baby mamma’s future wedded dada, who was glad handed by John McCain at the GOP Convention, isn’t too happy about his impending shotgun nups either.

“Levi got dragged out of the house to go to Minnesota,” Levi’s friend told The ENQUIRER. “Levi realizes he’s stuck being with Bristol because her mom is running for Vice President.”

The friend also confided that both Bristol and Levi “broke up a few times and they definitely messed around with other people.”

Meanwhile, as members of the Palin family’s war viciously over “Trooper-Gate” and claims of Sarah’s extramarital affair have turned the political race into a chaotic arena of threats, denials and vicious attacks by political black ops, The ENQUIRER has discovered shocking new details about the red-hot affair scandal!

For the full story of the secrets Sarah Palin is trying to hide – pick up the new ENQUIRER!

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Sara Palin seems like a wonderful person--even though our political and religious beliefs differ. It's unfortunate how the Republicans have used her good looks, charm and get-to-it-clean-up-government-Alaskan-frontierswoman record to "lipstick" a "motherhood, apple pie, God and honesty" face on the policies of a party under whose recent reign at the national level has tumbled financial financial markets--which at last may be rocking the complacency of the middle class--and left many working class and poor Americans struggling to afford milk and gasoline. And let's not forget thousands killed in a senseless war. Sara's "hot" alright, in terms of being physically attractive--and too much has been made of her physical appearance because she's woman. Were she an Independent, I might take a second look. Same for the highly respectable Mr. McCain. It's just been harder to find lipstick in his shade.

Posted by: Independent M. | September 18, 2008 8:57 AM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

She is only as telfon as the press makes her. After the two week love fest, all of a sudden the Bull crap started to stick. When the media does it's job, and fairly points out that she has extreme views tied to her extreme radical right world view, and points out the cronified way she runs Alaksa, and the fact that her positions have changed and that she has and continues to misrepresent and outwardly lie her own record and more importantly, she refuses to be a transparent candidate, such as now attempting to use an executive privilege exception to prevent public scrutiny into her emails when she already put them out in the public when she revealed them to her husband who is not a government official, well then her non-stick coating will start to peel. It is now the duty to the press of fairly report about her lack of transparency and any other stuff that comes up good, bad or indifferent. So, like Press...grow a pair or you can borrow some of Hillarys!

Posted by: Jacquie | September 18, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Jeez, Cilizza, when did you write this? Early last week? Palin's star is fading faster than a "Support the Troops" SUV magnet. See, that's a big difference between her and ol' Bonzo: Bonzo's handlers knew that, being an actor and all, he could convince a credible public that he sounded like he knew what he was talking about, while Palin's know that as soon as she opens her mouth, the ticket starts to hemorrhage likely voters. Maybe this is just a sneaky way for them to lower expectations to the point where she "wins" the debate with Biden because she can rattle off the stuff that's been drilled into her, and then you guys can gush over her to your hearts' content. I'm having trouble seeing that, but it's still possible. I mean, whoever thought we'd have a dry drunk with a subnormal IQ in the White House for eight years who bragged about not reading the news?

Posted by: atsah | September 18, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

1. She is an attractive up coming executive
2. A mother of 5 children
3. From a state everyone wants to visit
4. Her politics are ultra conservative
5. She has personalized her politics and her enemies
6. She will expound with little depth and intelligence on important issues, I can see Russia
7. She doesn't have the warm fuzzy dodderingness of Reagan or the political and intellectual capabilities of Clinton
Ergo: As with all Teflon(R) coated pans, as it is used and abused the coating wears off.

Posted by: optodoc | September 18, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

I think she got a lucky start.She looks like teflon coated for time being.She can actually thank Obama's vile comments and his supporters(including his media lapdogs)rabid attack on her for that.The whole episode made people overlook even the true stories that followed.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

The hissing sound you hear is air leaking from the Sarah Palin hot air balloon. In two weeks she will be an irrelevancy, if not a drag for John McCain.

Posted by: FilmMD | September 18, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

When Teflon cracks, it is useless and anything that comes into contact with it gets polluted. I would say that going from 58/28 favorable/unfavorable with a 30 point spread between the two to a 40/30 (you do the math on that one) in three weeks would indicate that the teflon is cracked. Now the question is what is getting polluted from it?

Posted by: Rich | September 18, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Get off the lipstick Chris, let's hear what the candidates are saying about the economy.

Posted by: NMAIF | September 18, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

HUMOR TO RELAX THE NERVOUSNESS IN THE MARKETS

At a town hall meeting in a small city of usa, republican candidates sen. john mccain and gov. sarah palin both called for reforming the financial markets "in wall street and washington," as mccain and palin put it.

McCain: We're going to put fire in Wall Street and Washington, and put an end in the crisis in our markets...

Palin: I spoke already with God, McCain.

McCain: Ah!!! Very good, Palin! And what did he say?

Palin: Put fire there is not mission of him.

McCain: Ohhhh!

Palin:But he indicated 2 names for us, McCain.

McCain: Hummm...And who are they?

Palin: Satan or Bin Laden.

McCain: No, No Thanks.

HUGS FROM BRAZIL FOR ALL CONSCIOUS CITIZENS IN USA!!!

Posted by: Dalmo | September 18, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Neither Sarah Palin nor John McCain are particularly intelligent. McCain barely made it through Annapolis, and Palin had to go to 5 or 6 colleges to finally graduate. It would be surprising if either shines well in the debates.

One word about the media's praise of her performance at last night's town hall, Please! That was a hand-picked, kool-aid drinking crowd. She has yet to face the working press or an unfriendly crowd.

McCain is said to be great in a town hall setting. However, he's never been in a town hall where the audience wasn't 100% Republican. He's never run a national campaign as his party's nominee. Expect it to be quite different when half the audience is most definitely not either behind him or agnostic about him.

Posted by: Music Lover | September 18, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Dano writes:

"Palin is the same ... she is steadfast because it comes from her core, her center and is unflinchingly, unapologetic about it.

It's refreshing to see a politician who again is about "we" instead of "I".

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By your very description of Palin: "unapologetic, unflinching, comes from her core," you have described a person who is NOT about the "we." I would certainly not use these terms to describe a selfless person, one who puts others first.

We have had eight years of a steadfast, unapologetic, unflinching leader who bases decisions from his core (gut) - George W Bush. Surely, you don't want another 'leader' like him? Do you? Really?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Liberal: "favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties."

Fascist: "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

liberal...fascist....liberal...fascist. liberal fascist? I think not.

"No she isn't Teflon coated. It just that all of the stupid and petty smears tried by the WP and the other liberal fascists have been disregarded by Americans. I think for the first time in this election the true fascist nature of the left and its stooges in the MSM is becoming increasingly apparent. The conduct of the left is a combination of leftist lunacy, socialist propaganda and Daley machine thuggery.

The MSM cannot understand why their Furher is not way ahead in the polls despite their massive, hypocritical and dishonest election coverage. Intelligent and fair minded Americans though can easily see the obvious difference in how McCain and Palin are treated as opposed to BHO and the Hairplug and Americans love the underdog."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Among the base? Yes, she is. Otherwise, no. Odd that you're not citing the most recent polls in which her unfavorable rating is higher than her favorable number. Innocent omission?

Posted by: Rich | September 18, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Johnson, Stacey

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Good lord, this whole column is based on a fallacy: that Palin is "popular" at all, particularly outside the religious right base. She isn't.

Her favorables keep going down; her unfavorables keep going up. That trend will continue the more people learn about her (and the more she opens her mouth).

Posted by: Name | September 18, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

The GOP and FOX have spent the last year spewing filth and lies about Barack Obama. Where were you bloggers at that point? You not only cheered them on, you spread the lies.

And why exactly should Sarah Palin not be subjected to the same bitterness and viciousness? Because its sexist to attack a woman but not bigotry to attack a man for his skin color? I really want to know. Sarah Palin is woefully unprepared to be the vice-president and her worldview is from the 19th century. That's the bottom line. I would be saying that if she was a man.

Posted by: Ann | September 18, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The shine is wearing off - and she remains untested still. McCain appears to be keeping her guarded, keeping her from the press with carefully scripted speeches and even a carefully scripted "Question" from the audience. I saw the ralley, and I'm sorry, it didn't look off the cuff and ad-lib at all. It look like a staffer asking a question she already had crafted an answer to. To get the Teflon mantle you gotta go through the fire, unsheilded with the full force of the press and public. McCain is going through great lengths to prevent this.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Another characteristic of teflon: If you cook with it using high heat, toxic chemicals get released into your food...

Hmmmm....

Posted by: Teflon+High Heat=Toxic Chemicals in Your Food | September 18, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like someone's bucking to be a permanent pundit on FOXNews. Most of the polls you refer to were taken before most of her problems actually started to take hold in the media and with the public. The latest polls show the shine is gone and it's reflected not only in her approval ratings but also with her ticket. In just this past weekend alone, she went to the most popular candidate to the least. But please, continue selling Gov. Palin as "Teflon", at least Fox will buy it.

Posted by: Jackson | September 18, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Governor Palin's popularity is her ability to connect with ordinary people. Her affable personality shines through in her discourse with people and the media. Of course most of what we have observed recently has been her rehearsed answers on policy. Her introduction to the presidential race has generated a lot of attention because of her personality and charisma. Time will tell after the VP debate if she can hold her own on a national stage. So far she seems to be popular until the spotlight is intensified on her conservative beliefs.

Posted by: RBS | September 18, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Chris, what is wrong with you? You are off your game this election season. You spent months hyping Hillary Clinton as inevitable, you posted an embarrassing post yesterday about how you worship a right wing stooge and now you ignore all the polls showing Sarah Palin dragging down John McCain to write that she is teflon. Good luck with that. Lucky for you, you are in a business where there is no penalty for being wrong all the time ... see, Kristol, William and Broder, David.

Posted by: Greg in LA | September 18, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

David writes: "Obama campaign is spewing venom about her and toward her shows that they are afraid of her."

Come on, David. If you are going to write something like this, please cite examples of how the Obama campaign is vilifying Palin.

Give me five venomous examples.

Posted by: PBJ&aBaseballBat | September 18, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

The poll numbers having dropped slightly is actually a plus for Governor Palin because she was in a frenzied high since the nomination that no one could sustain. Her numbers have caught themselves nicely and remain very high, which demonstrates that she does has a strong, teflon quality, and is definitly a major factor in this race.

Mr. Cillizza gets it dead wrong when he says she was pilloried in the press "over a series of missteps large and small."
No, she was pillioried in the press because:
1) she turned the race on its head, and not to Mr. Obama's advantage which is what WP, NYT, AP, CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS all do not want and are are so afraid of!
2) she has attracted women, independents, and Democrats to vote for McCain and other Republican candidates and continues to do so. ('ee gads, she must be stopped!!')
3) there is an indication that the public sees through the press's unfairness and nitpicking on issues such as:
- she did in fact kill the Alaska 'Bridge to Nowhere' which has been acknowledged by Democrats in that state. She SHOULD take credit for it. Washington decided to convert that cash to general highway funds, and she took those funds for Alaska's highway infrastructure needs as any prudent Governor would.
- she never did seek to ban books or any of the other far-left wacko claims which have been made. You see if you are pro- life and female then there's got to be something strange about you, according to the pro-Obama media. It's just a caricature they draw, and a dishonest one at that.
- she DID put the Governor's plane on E-Bay, and it remained there for several months. The fact that it didn't get a buyer that way but eventually sold through another channel is irrelevant to the point: that she put it up publicly for sale, and that's exactly what she said.

I do believe she has a teflon quality; it's already been demonstrated in Alaska.

By the way, other than rabid partisans and Obama surrogates, Democrats and Independents in Alaska agreed with her and worked with her on a lot of issues. You will NEVER see Mr. Obama reaching out in this way, or taking on his own party.

I believe that those who think change will come by putting Obama in the white house are fooling themselves; that's only going to come from a team that works together with everyone and is not bound by party.

The other issue is that Obama is the most inexperience, unqualified individual in the last 100 years to run for the nation's highest office and to preside over the largest government in the world.

I think in the end the public will see through the debates and beyond that there is only one candidate in this race - John McCain, who is prepared to be President on day one and is a real leader.


Posted by: waynepet | September 18, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Reagan and Clinton spoke from from their heart, from their very core beliefs. Although from different parties, both were right in their approach and people belived in them. They didn't need handlers, cue cards and teleprompters. They could speak about subjects at anytime, anywhere becuase it was truely a part of them.

People see through the fluff.

Palin is the same. Some democrats may not like her positions, but she is steadfast because it comes from her core, her center and is unflinchingly, unapologetic about it.

It's refreshing to see a politician who again is about "we" instead of "I".

Posted by: dano | September 18, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Although she appears to be W in style and (lack of) substance, the media took too much of a beating not vetting him in 2000 and seems to be trying to make up for that sin by doing their due dilligence on SP. While it's true that America is reluctant to cast doubt on it's "idols", I don't think Sarah will continue to shine in that light. After the likes of Dan Quayle and Bush, two people who did not have the intellegence to be in a position of national leadership, I doubt the public has the stomach for another cheerleader. (Of course, they'll have to get over their bigotry first which is not a sure thing).

Posted by: MikeH | September 18, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

It's not that she's Teflon and that's you all in the media have come unglued, you have lose your minds in an effort to elect Obama and even me, a democrat, sees it and it makes up want to protect her. She hasn't had any missteps..her daughter's pregancy is a misstep? Charlie Gibson's condescending interview? Just endeared her to me as a woman. There were no gotcha moments...only those invented by the press. She's called a liar, but we see that she IS NOT. Nothing you say is true. When there are no missteps, then there is no stick. Just because you all say it's true eg "women are outraged by the Palin pick", ummm, no we're not, doesn't make it so.

Posted by: Laurie | September 18, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

No she isn't Teflon coated. It just that all of the stupid and petty smears tried by the WP and the other liberal fascists have been disregarded by Americans. I think for the first time in this election the true fascist nature of the left and its stooges in the MSM is becoming increasingly apparent. The conduct of the left is a combination of leftist lunacy, socialist propaganda and Daley machine thuggery.

The MSM cannot understand why their Furher is not way ahead in the polls despite their massive, hypocritical and dishonest election coverage. Intelligent and fair minded Americans though can easily see the obvious difference in how McCain and Palin are treated as opposed to BHO and the Hairplug and Americans love the underdog.

Posted by: Joe T | September 18, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

The music behind the words in all the MSM stories on Palin is that she is a threat because she actually believes in God. The mega-story is, "Behind that smiling lipstick is a theocrat who will steal your right to choose."

Here's the problem with that--Americans are "tolerant traditionalists," who want a leader who shares their private values ("I'm personally pro-life") but don't impose them on others. Palin's track record in Alaska shows her to be EXACTLY that kind of person.

Her pro-life credentials are impeccable, but it's not because she wants to outlaw abortion in the case of rapes and incest. She is PERSONALLY pro-life in the most inarguable way. How can anybody improve on that? How can anybody be against it?

Most Americans fundamentally agree with the bumper stickers that say things like "Hate Is Not a Family Value" and "Mean People Suck." Palin poses a threat to the institutionalized left because she could be the poster girl for so MANY bumper stickers. All the mainstream media seems to be able to do about that is to question her tanning bed.

So, NYT and NBC, here's another bumper sticker for you: "Question Authority." Yours seems to be waning!

Posted by: Scott Somerville | September 18, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

According to the latest polls, Palin's unfavorable rating has jumped in recent days. She was in the low 30's earlier last week. As of today she is at 54% unfavorable. According to the poll trackers it appears to be directly the result of her subpoena from a bipartisan investigation in Alaska. Voters were willing to accept that she has the right to defend herself, but once the commission provided incontrovertible evidence that she had committed impeachable offenses, followed by Palin's refusal to abide by the law, the numbers turned against her. American's were charged up by the energy she brought in initially, but have since seen evidence that she would be all too willing to behave in the extralegal behavior of the current administration

Posted by: Collin Nichols | September 18, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Do not be deceived. The fact the liberal press is attacking Palin unmercifully and the Obama campaign is spewing venom about her and toward her shows that they are afraid of her. They also know she is dangerous to their aspiratations. They are taking her very seriously. Also keep this in mind. She hasn't debated Biden yet!! I'm not sure Mr. Delaware wants that.

Posted by: David | September 18, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

The reason that attacks are not sticking to Palin is that she is extremely pleasing. This is not a reference to her appearance but rather, total Washington outsider, can give a good speech, new and shiny, and female candidate not named HRC. The left's full court press from minute one backfired significantly. Most people either got offended from a sexism standpoint or took it as white noise. Additionally it set the bar so low that when she delivered a rousing address at the RNC what was only an attack and party rara speech was greeted as a revelation.

Posted by: Normanelitist | September 18, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

The non-stick surface of Palin's frying pan is burning up.

Posted by: kaplan | September 18, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Palin frenzy is basically media fueled. The more attacks on her personal life or as a person, or as a woman, the better off she will stand among voters. If the media really want to help the puppet Obama, just shut up about her and start pulling strings on Obama again.

Posted by: God Father | September 18, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Did Dupont Chemicals ever think they had made politicans instead of non-stick pans?

I think we are all seeing how Palin would govern- just like Bush/Cheney--SECRECY.

JUST THE WAY SHE AND THE CAMPAIGN ARE HANDLING THE INVESTIGATION IN ALASKA: SUPPRESS AND KEEP THINGS SECRET.

I think she has overheated her frying pan and the non-stick surface is burning up.

Posted by: mitch | September 18, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

This country really doesn't need government to be led by the Social Democrats. You know there is a good reason why Obama is soooooooo loved in Europe.....that lovely conglomeration of welfare states with a Socialism/Business partnership. The United States of America does not need Socialism and it sure doesn't need Obama. You know, The United States is a pretty large community to organize.

Posted by: David | September 18, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Obama was vetted by millions of voters in the Democratic primaries where he bested an impressive array of candidates. Whether he was the best choice is arguable. In contrast Palin was vetted by McCain based on one interview. For those defending Palin, what would your position be if she were a Democrat? Be honest.

Posted by: browneri | September 18, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

In Palin's case, the operative word is "small." An incoherent broadside of trivia has been cast at Palin along with ridiculously transparent fabrications. Latest example is the email hacking. The Obama crowd are spewing nonsense about how this is somehow "another" Palin "problem" while ignoring the only real story -- the crime committed by the hackers. The hysteria and misinformation that have greeted Palin make it hard to believe there's anything credible in the attacks.

Posted by: Bri | September 18, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Sara Palin seems like a wonderful person--even though our political and religious beliefs differ. It's unfortunate how the Republicans have used her good looks, charm and get-to-it-clean-up-government-Alaskan-frontierswoman record to "lipstick" a "motherhood, apple pie, God and honesty" face on the policies of a party under whose recent reign at the national level has tumbled financial financial markets--which at last may be rocking the complacency of the middle class--and left many working class and poor Americans struggling to afford milk and gasoline. And let's not forget thousands killed in a senseless war. Sara's "hot" alright, in terms of being physically attractive--and too much has been made of her physical appearance because she's a woman. Were she an Independent, I might take a second look. Same for the highly respectable Mr. McCain. It's just been harder to find lipstick in his shade.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

The reasons Palin is hard to attack are various but most turn on the appeal to the lowest common denominator. She plays the populist card without shame or hesitation. Calling herself a pit-bull was a clever trick by her handlers: everyone knew the lipstick quote and whether the Obama team picked it (nasty) up or not (wimp) they'd be damned for it by the double-stardard media.

Her main ploy however it as old as the hills: apple pie and momism. Come out holding a baby and anyone who speaks against you is running the risk of being called anti-american and disrespectful of the sanctitude of motherhood.

It's also interesting that some of the same cards were played by Hillary Clinton, so Palin's gun-toting, mothering, hard-drinking tough-talking was already a part of this year's campaign.

Ignorance is not bliss, Chris Brown in Hamburg

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

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The Correct Answer Is Sarah Palin is a mix of Teflon and Titanium.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 18, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Palin's lipstick is nonstick only because she is irrelevant. Is anybody turning to her for her wisdom or experience for answers to America's financial crisis? Iraq war strategy? Terrorism? Education?

She is only relevant to the point that our attention (and Obama's) makes her so. Ignoring her is all she deserves.

Posted by: egc52556 | September 18, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

It does seem this woman has some sort of Teflon because knowing that she is under investigation for very shady things, doesn't believe in a woman's right to choose, even in cases of rape and incest, tried to ban library books, shoots wildlife from helicopters, won't list polar bears as endangered, doesn't believe in global warming, lied about the bridge to nowhere & kept the money for earmarks, lied about improving on her speech at the RNC, and can see Russia from her house...

Her #s are starting to slip though, which could be that people are wisening up or actually listening to the facts.

Posted by: Caravan | September 18, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

>> Bill wrote: "Since papers like the Washington Post and the New York Times have become propaganda organs for the Democratic Party and media darlings are simply orgasmic over Obama why should anyone in the hinterlands take anything said about her by reporters seriously? Study after study shows a clear bias among news staffs and in the amount and type of coverage given over to positive coverage of Obama. Rather than being unbiased referees in a football game too many in the media are deliberately trying to throw the game."

This is true, too. Those who are trying to demonize Palin are lying, shrill, biased pro-Obama media. The media this year has taken on the character of gossiping "mean girl" liars and well-poisoners who are out to "get" McCain and elect Obama. Even the factcheck sites and pages are lying to prop up Obama and undermine the Republicans. It's not like anyone with any credibility is taking swipes at her.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Nah!
Palin's unfavourables are already rising. She is not even going to be on the scene for the Republican primary in 2012. Her oddball beliefs on global warming, religious fundamentalism and scandals will ensure that she will remain Gov of Alaska for the forseeable future.

McCain has already had his highwater mark in the polls. Momentum is shifting back Obama's way coupled with an under-representation of Obama voters by the use of 20th century polling methodology.

I predict Obama wins Co, Va, Oh, Pa, Mi, NM, Nv and NH. Florida stays red, NC is only a marginal win for McCain.

It's all about the economy stupid.

Posted by: Mike | September 18, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

If the press put Obama through the same wringer Palin is being put through, the election would not even be close..McCain in a landslide. But, of course, that won't happen. This press is hoping against hope that its' liberal golden boy, Obama, gets elected. The country is still basically conservative despite liberals' fantasies to the contrary. McCain will win. After McCain, Palin will be the next President of The United States.

Posted by: David | September 18, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

It just takes time. And it won't take long for Palin. She's already fading. The initial excitement was mostly because McCain's campaign was so unexciting, and Palin was a shot in the arm. Now voters are finding out she's not only "not all that", she's worse.

Posted by: Patience | September 18, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Sara Palin seems like a wonderful person--even though our political and religious beliefs differ. It's unfortunate how the Republicans have used her good looks, charm and get-to-it-clean-up-government-Alaskan-frontierswoman record to "lipstick" a "motherhood, apple pie, God and honesty" face on the policies of a party under whose recent reign at the national level has tumbled financial financial markets--which at last may be rocking the complacency of the middle class--and left many working class and poor Americans struggling to afford milk and gasoline. And let's not forget thousands killed in a senseless war. Sara's "hot" alright, in terms of being physically attractive--and too much has been made of her physical appearance because she's woman. Were she an Independent, I might take a second look. Same for the highly respectable Mr. McCain. It's just been harder to find lipstick in his shade.

Posted by: Independent M. | September 18, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Of course she is not teflon and the "stuff" is beginning to stick. The American people may want to vote for this woman, after all, she is new, seemingly bright and without a doubt ambitious all good qualities to have but as a candidate for the VEEP position more is required - she must also have a basic knowledge of the "big picture" and clearly she does not have that knowldege. McSame gambled and with any luck, he will lose - shame on him for putting the country into such a position as to offer up such inexperience and close mindedness as Palin.

For McSame, he truly wants to win - and has proven by his total disregard of his VP's credentials, at any cost - even that of our nation. He should never be forgiven!

Posted by: Kathy5 | September 18, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I checked out DuPont's Teflon page, and found this:

"You can BANK(emphasis mine) on the nonstick performance, chemical inertness, and exceptional purity of Teflon® fluoropolymers to keep your food processing equipment running smoothly ... and more profitably."

Also--

CHANGSHU CITY, China, January 29, 2008

DuPont Opens Fluoropolymer Production Plant in China

New PTFE Facility Will Support Growth in Global Markets

A new DuPont fluoropolymer production plant has begun operations here. The plant, which produces polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) fine-powder and dispersion for global customers, with focus on Asia Pacific, marks a significant milestone in the company's strategic plan to establish a broader fluoroproducts manufacturing base in China.

"The opening of the Changshu plant supports our belief that it is a very good time to invest in PTFE production in China," said Cynthia Green, vice president and general manager, DuPont Fluoroproducts. "DuPont's advanced, high-quality PTFE products already have established a leading position in the market and are delivering benefits to our customers around the world."

So--teflon, meet pan. Why on earth would we vote for more of the same?

Posted by: Lou T. | September 18, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Since papers like the Washington Post and the New York Times have become propaganda organs for the Democratic Party and media darlings are simply orgasmic over Obama why should anyone in the hinterlands take anything said about her by reporters seriously? Study after study shows a clear bias among news staffs and in the amount and type of coverage given over to positive coverage of Obama. Rather than being unbiased referees in a football game too many in the media are deliberately trying to throw the game.

Posted by: Bill | September 18, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has boatloads of talent that most politicians can only dream about having. Watch her interview with Charles Gibson. She effortlessly gives full-fledged answers with multiple points per answer that she wants to make in the process -- she's on a higher plan mentally than the vast majority of her colleagues.

She's bright, engaging, and a strong leader. What's not to like?

Posted by: Bill | September 18, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

"If Obama was ridiculed the same way Palin is ridiculed, we'ld be screaming "racism!!" "

Please, you guys have ridiculed him--for allegedly being a Muslim, for attending a muslim school, for not wearing a flag pig, for daring to attend a church in which he didn't agree 100 percent with what the minister was saying, etc.

The rightwing needs to grow a pair and lose its victimization syndrome. Our country faces serious problems. Aside from flip-flopping, what does McCain propose to do?

Posted by: castanea | September 18, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse


Palin favorable rating dropping like a rock. The novelty seems to be wearing off.
This may turn out to be one of the fastest "Flash in the pans" in history.
Move over Taylor Hicks.

The polls reflected the early success of her strategy. In the three days after Palin joined Team McCain--Aug. 29-31--32 percent of voters told the pollsters at Diageo/Hotline that they had a favorable opinion of her; most (48 percent) didn't know enough to say. (The Diageo/Hotline poll is conducted by Financial Dynamics opinion research; it's the only daily tracking poll to regularly publish approval ratings.) By Sept. 4, however, 43 percent of Diageo/Hotline respondents approved of Palin with only 25 percent disapproving--an 18-point split. Apparently, voters were liking what they were hearing. Four days later, Palin's approval rating had climbed to 47 percent (+17), and by Sept. 13 it had hit 52 percent. The gap at that point between her favorable and unfavorable numbers--22 percent--was larger than either McCain's (+20) or Obama's (+13).

But then a funny thing happened: Palin seems to have lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12)** of any of the Final Four. Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.

What happened? *First, it's important to note that Palin's approval rating hasn't tanked. Far from it. And we should hold off on drawing any hard and fast conclusions until more polling comes out.* That said, I suspect that we're starting to see Palin's considerable novelty wear off. In part it's the result of a steady stream of controversial stories: her apparent unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine during last Thursday's interview with Charles Gibson (video above); her refusal to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation; her repeated stretching of the truth on everything from earmarks to the "Bridge to Nowhere" to the amount of energy her state produces. That stuff has a way of inspiring disapproval and eroding one's support. (Interestingly, Palin's preparedness numbers--about 50 percent yes, 45 percent no--haven't budged.) But I'd argue that it's the start of an inevitable process. Between now and Nov. 4, voters will stop seeing Palin as a fascinating story and starting taking her measure as an actual candidate for office. Some will approve; some won't. It remains to be seen whether Palin's recent slide will continue, or hurt John McCain in the polls. But it's hard to argue that the journey from intriguing new superstar to earthbound politician--a necessary part of the process--doesn't involve a loss of altitud

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

It is remarkable that she is polling consistently higher than Joe Biden in not just popularity, but as a presidential option as well. She inspires deep polarization. Those who like her usually absolutely and unconditionally love her, while those who don't despise her more deeply than anything they've ever hated in their entire lives.

As long as she has the unconditional love of 50% she will remain teflon. I am guessing that will be the case.

Posted by: Negativo | September 18, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

I have a better question for ya Gizzilla

Why does NObama HATE America?

William Ayes does (NObama's close friend)

OBama's church Curses America

NObama Pastor curses America

Nobama refused to wear an American flag pin on his lapel, only Senator to tkae that stance.

Nobama refused to cross his heart during the pledge of alligiance.

NOBama's wife is always ranting against America "1st time i can be proud of America"

Need more examples idiot?

NObama makes me SICK, only an animal would support this America-Hating-Racist

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | September 18, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Of course she deflects the very mean uncalled for attacks from the Chicago Obama machine.

When you start going after Palin on issues of inexperience, personal attacks that are all but groundless, low blows going after a handicapped chaild its not hard to see how Barry the Banana has less experience than Palin, has shady friends instead of stalwart principled ones, is a outsider elitist instead of a down home true blooded American. The lit goes ona nd on and on. The polls are showing how the BO attacks on Palin are backfiring so in recent days they are going after McCain directly. Wiser strategy, but still hollow and without merit or honesty. People now see through the fake mantel of BO and the double standard lack of press vetting he has received.

Posted by: StarsandStrips | September 18, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

It's not that Sarah Palin has "teflon" -- or even that Reagan and Clinton did. It's that the media and partisans who opposed these politicians were obsessed with demonizing them, when they are basically good persons and constructive, inspired leaders. The would-be demonizers of Reagan, Clinton and Palin are so caught up in their partisan echo chamber that they fail to see how out of touch were their characterizations of these politicians with the real persons. In the case of Palin, the left-wing attempts to demonize her are not only out of touch with her real personal traits, but they are out of touch with her class grounding in middle America, so that the attacks resemble ugly class warfare of snobs more than they resemble coherent analysis.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Palin isn't teflon. She's more like Bush in that there are SO many things questionable about her character, qualifications, and candidacy that the media can't latch on to one single thing as a focus from one news cycle to the next. Just when they think there's a travelgate, there's troopergate. Just when they think there's a qualification gap, there's the bridge to nowhere. Just when they think there's a pregnancy drama, there's earmarks out the wazoo.

This is how Bush survived. When you thought Iraq might take him down, torture changes the story, and then supreme court nominees, and then surveillance, and then Cheney shooting people, and then missing emails, etc. etc.

Add to that the fact that she's the latest charming little celebrity, and she's the ultimate distraction machine.

You don't throw the media off the trail, you simply lead them down a different trail.

Posted by: DFG | September 18, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Failin' Palin's not teflon, Republicans simply refuse to hold her accountable for any of her actions, the same way they refuse to hold any OTHER Republican accountable for their actions.

If Clinton had refused to cooperate with Ken Starr's obviously partisan investigation, the GOP would have been up in arms. Palin refuses to cooperate, and they're PROUD of her!!

I'm tired of a lack of accountability for Republicans. I'm tired of watching the GOP get away with it, and THUMB THEIR NOSES AT US!!!

NO GOP for the US!

Obama-Biden 08/12!!!

Posted by: Fred Evil | September 18, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Who's Cilizza talking to? Popular? Everyone I know can't stand her. All my Republican friends find her insulting.

They feel McCain failed them, going for some gimmicky culture war grenade when he swore to us that he'd pick someone deserving.

The Palin pick was a joke at best. An embarrassment to our Nation.

Team Teflon's looking at maybe 43% of the vote in November. The CLB vote, al the Children Left Behind, Sul Rossers, will be voting for the waht I refer to as Team Fascist.

McCain's a d-teamer in th midst of a senile moment.

Palin's just a mean person. McCain made a joke out his own party.

Cilizza has a job, to stoke conflict and attract readers. But Palin and Reagan and clinton in the same sentence. That's hallucinating.

Posted by: Rob L. | September 18, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Palin's popularity is less about teflon and more about bluffling and denial.

The McCain campaign is in full scale bluff mode to lie about her record and shut down any media scrutiny. Her biggest fans amongst the social conservatives are in a state of denial about Iraq and GW. They have been looking for another Messiah to fill GW's shoes and they knew Sarah was it the instant they heard the announcement despite the fact they know nothing about her. They have not let reality burst their bubble of denial yet.

No Telfon just bluffing and a bubble of denial.

She will always be popular amongst a certain consituency in the same way G Gordon Liddy, Oliver North and George Allen are "popular" amongst a specific group.

It is a race now until november 4th between the bluffing of mccain and the reality of sarah palin. Most people who know how to use google have learned all there is to know about sarah now the rest of the world must catch up via the National Enquirer.

Posted by: Del3 | September 18, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Only thing teflon is her brain!

Posted by: BigdaddyRaven | September 18, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

These numbers reflect a Republican base that is in denial and alot of other people who are drawn to superficial characteristic (like they like pitbulls wearing lipstick0

I would like to hear Palin discuss the current financial crisis. I am sure it would be a illuminating the the nothingness that McCain has had to offer on the subject.

This woman is being force fed empty platitudes and in the end more and more people will focus on the emptiness of her and less on her charming media persona

Posted by: nclwtk | September 18, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON - Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. The Republican campaign for president calls the tax increases their Democratic opponents propose "painful" instead of patriotic.

Patriotic to pay more taxes...`BULLSH#T!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Three weeks and she's teflon? Please. Kwame Kilpatrick held a higher favorability rating for far longer. This type of judgement should be deferred until after she actually attends a press conference.

Posted by: Joseph | September 18, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

The teflon may be wearing off, but it just needs to last until Election Day. Palin and her backers seem to lack complete confidnece in her credentials, since they come up with items taht are irrlevant (Alaska's proxinity to Russia; Palin did not deal with Russian officials), mundane (she has been commander in chief of the state's national guard; all governors are, and she has done nothing special in that area), laugable (she's the most knowledgeable person in the country on energy) and easily disproven (she oversaw 20% of the nation's energy production). Of course, the ethics investigation of her is purely politically-motivated (the last governor to be chosen VP--Spiro Agnew-- said the same about investigations of him).

Posted by: Steve | September 18, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

>> I HAVE TO SAY IT wrote: "IF OBAMA WAS ALL-WHITE INSTEAD OF HALF-WHITE, HIS NUMBERS WOULD BE THROUGH THE ROOF."

If Barack Obama were white, he would have gone to a 3rd tier state school or community college. He wouldn't be elected anything.

In David Mendell's 2007 biography, Obama, it was reported that Obama was a B student whose grades slipped so far below a B at High School that in his final year his grandmother feared he would not get into a university. The chapter ends with him being accepted into Occidental on a full scholarship.

The NYT has published a letter written by Obama in 1990, that discusses his own experiences with affirmative action.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us/politics/03affirmative.html?_r=2&em=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin)

Mr. Obama quote: “[I] undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in [my] own academic career.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

I would wait for the next round of polls before calling Palin 'teflon.' NBC did a fact check on her as their 2nd story last night, and it did not paint a pretty picture. Other organizations will follow (and are already starting to). And we haven't yet seen the troopergate coverage go into full swing, and it surely will with Palin refusing to meet with investigators. In other words, a week from now, the public perception of Palin may be anything but favorable.

Posted by: LynnG | September 18, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

I think she may have the teflon quality, in that, she has little to be honestly attacked about. And the hyperventilating mainstream media's attempts to lambast her are seen for what they are: lame, inexcusable, dishonest attempts to slander this fine woman.

Posted by: Timaay | September 18, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Its the media thats teflon. People still accept media bias as news. If Obama was ridiculed the same way Palin is ridiculed, we'ld be screaming "racism!!". Believe me Obama has a lot to be ridiculed about...
Has he flipped on the war yet? Does he have experience yet? Is he now for offshore drilling? Are his financial backers tanking the economy yet? Was his church racist enough? Has he met with Iran yet? Why does he deny his Muslim roots?....

Posted by: Richard Morse | September 18, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

The more people hear about the snide and rude commissioner who "serves at the pleasure of the governor" who richly deserved dismissal, and the point of reserving the right to designated earmark projects to local control of dollars, rather than projects being spec'ed out in DC, the more they're gonna like McCain's running mate. The rebound will relaunch shortly -- the Democrat attack line is so incredibly short-sighted, and inadvertently helps Palin where the ticket needs a boost -- "Oooo, she shoots wolves from planes to promote moose herd health." More Americans think "that sounds cool" than say "Ah, the poor beta predator, vote against mean Sarah."

Keep it up, guys.

Posted by: Jeff | September 18, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I am a "golf Mom". Are you really a serious journalist, or do you want to join the herd to become part of the popular group? I'd say three weeks is a ridiculously short amount of time for you to be writing this. Since some of us like facts before swooning, and actually have to go to work every day ... that is if we haven't been laid off...it understandably takes a little time to actually investigate. I think...(thinking, by the way is something I try to do as often as possible)...over time...many believe that as a person, Palin has her pros and cons...as everyone of us does. As a politician she appears - to this Christian- somewhat hypocritical....not following the doctrine espoused by Jesus to love your enemies or to personally strive for moral behavior in all areas of life. Several items come to mind. One in particular is the one that tells us not to lie, but even more importantly, not to mislead. Being part of the herd often means running off a cliff with all the others....(This is actually based on a Biblical parable about Satan casting the devil into a herd of pigs and then running them off a cliff. I am applying it in a slightly different way in this situation of infatuation directed by one bossy person and his advertising corps. It is very different from building up a relationship through information and contact...so please don't confuse it with the true popularity of Obama. Emotion and passion can be a good thing, but not a fanatic or robotic following. Please don't misquote or misrepresent my statement/meaning as McCain's group does. Maybe this is more than you really wanted to hear. Some of us who have studied Christianity longer than Ms Palin also might have some valuable thoughts. She is not my God. Maybe this is more than you really wanted to know. Sorry. I have to get to work.

Posted by: DR | September 18, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Her negatives have shot up 17 points since she was thrust onto the world stage. Is this even worth discussing?

Come to think of it, what has she weathered exactly after THREE WEEKS?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

The fact that Palin should have any sort of honeymoon at all - the fact that she wasn't immediately laughed off the stage - demonstrates to the world that the US voting public remains as brainless, as sophomoric and as gullible as when it elected GW Bush twice.

This is the US public .... 79% of whom thought invading Iraq had been a good idea even after the invasion had produced no WMD.

There's something about Palin that appeals irresistibly to small brains that don't want to be bothered with facts and truth and all that.
Naturally she's a huge hit on the US political scene.

Posted by: Kevrobb | September 18, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

If an empty suit such as Obama can prevail despite his many flip flops, despite his twenty years with the pastor, why would you be surprised that Ms. Palin, with comparably better credentials is giving him a run for his (vaunted) money?

She has single handedly turned this campaign to that of Barack Obama vs Sarah Palin. And the poor bloke can't shake her from his head.

When was the last time a Veep candidate so consumed the campaign of the opposing Presidential candidate?

All the lipstick the Fix might put on him, won't rescue his derailed campaign.

Posted by: Krishna | September 18, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

IF OBAMA WAS ALL-WHITE INSTEAD OF HALF-WHITE, HIS NUMBERS WOULD BE THROUGH THE ROOF. AMERICA HAS IDENTIFIED WITH PALIN DUE TO HER BEING A WHITE FEMALE. NEVER MIND HER PLATFORM AND HER VIEWS. IT NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME HOW DEEP ROOTED PREJUDICED VIEWS REMAINS IN THIS COUNTRY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE AS A NATION UNTIL OVERCOME OUR RACIST INCLINATIONS AND JOIN TOGETHER AS ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

Posted by: I HAVE TO SAY IT | September 18, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I think it is a little too early to determine if she is teflon. The facts are just starting to emerge and work their way through the information cycle. She will continue to be popular among the Republicans who are so desparate for anyone who looks like they will live beyond next month and can deliver a coherent speech even if it is filled with lies. Sarah has the ability to tell lies with such conviction that anyone who doesn't have, or take, the time to check out the facts will believe what she says. Over time lies will be revealed to all and she will take a popularity hit. For an example of this look at G.W. Bush. He lied and got away with it for a long time. Eventually the truth came out and his popularity bottomed out. Will she get by until November? That will depend on whether the media gives her a free ride.

Posted by: cdgainesville | September 18, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree. This is a silly question.

Regardless of what the Republicans say, the attacks against Palin by the Obama campaign have been very measured so far. They haven't thrown much to see if it sticks. More illuminating is the Republican SWAT team defense of Palin on troopergate. If they really felt that she was Teflon, they wouldn't be trying to run out the clock on this issue until after the election. Polls show that many people like Palin, but a minority thinks that she is qualified to be president. That's probably all that Obama needs to neutralize her influence on this election.

Posted by: scrapster | September 18, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Palin is definitely not Teflon. She is the Sanjaya of American Idol. Simon Cowell hated him and prayed that he would be voted off. For a moment, it seemed that he could be the Idol. The audience was just playing a game.

The Repubs knew this was their last card to get the Bible Belt on board...The moderates, such as the 5 female Repub senators, have never held a press conference to endorse her. Is that an indicator of how incensed they are?

Pawlenty, Jindal may not have been emotionally exciting but they would have been substantial...This was a gift for the Dems....Is she some sort of Trojan Horse in a twisted way???

Posted by: Pamela McGregor | September 18, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Palin keeps giving me flashbacks to the movie "Heathers". She's the loved, yet feared high school Queen, with hordes of charmed admirers desperate to get into her inner circle of friends. And an inner circle of friends basking in the glow, and yet dreading doing anything to win her displeasure.

The girls who are Queen in high school rarely look half so great when you get to college. Their reigns all come to an end eventually, and their closest friends are all either recovering from the knives in their backs, or have moved on to fresher pastures and are willing to dish the dirt on how 'S' believed in herself a little too much.

So it's a temporary kind of teflon. Doubt it will wear off fully before the vote, though.

Posted by: illukar | September 18, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Chris, you're obviously having a bad day to even ask such a stupid question, so I'll give you a pass, which is exactly what has been granted Palin. Or would that be "deference"?

Sure, I'm a Democrat, but I honestly believe the Republican party has been so desperate for something--anything-- to get happy about that the woefully unprepared Palin has been acclaimed as nothing short of the Second Coming.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have been desperate to get the subject back on McCain. But give the GOP credit. Given Palin's debutante ball and the media's mystifying act of actually knuckling under while Palin is kept out of sight for fear she will open her mouth, and it's not hard to see why so many people are still interested in her celebrity.

That, combined with a hail of insanely inaccurate attack ads launched by the McCain forces to keep the focus anywhere but on the issues, plus the Democrats' decision to ignore Palin in hopes she will actually speak and therefore self-destruct, have combined to create an illusion which, alas, cannot last long in a cruel world.

But Palin is an easy mark.

Give the economy a couple of weeks to bring things back to earth, give the blogs and the tabloids time to do the work the mainstream media consider beneath their profession, and I have little doubt Palin will be exposed for the fraud she is. There are too many events already in motion for any other result to occur.

There's a frying pan involved, but I'm afraid there's no Teflon in sight.

Posted by: sweetwtrbay | September 18, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The media seems to be ignoring the fact
the teflon is wearing off their Freshman
part time senator from Dalyville'
so much experience he doesnt need answers
he can just blame the powers that be.
cuz obviously, he is not one of them,
he has been doing Not A Thing
for the last two years.

Posted by: simonsays | September 18, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Please just do your job and stop dreaming up ephemeral questions like this.

The question has absolutely no bearing on anything of consequence: the financial collapse, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the crisis in Georgia, and home foreclosures across the United States.

Do people "like" Sarah Palin? Please. We're not in high school anymore. Get serious.


Posted by: John Duffy | September 18, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

TV (where Palin is seen and not heard 85% of the time), our gullibility, and Palin's obvious digestion of Madonna as Eva Perón (note her hand waving) help her appeal. If Palin were a rather ordinary looking man--let's say Joe Lieberman, to plant a vivid image in mind--with exactly the same record and resume, saying exactly the same things, how "favorably impressed" would people be? Would people still overlook, despite the responsibilities involved, her never owning a passport until recently, her claiming Iraq holds "the people who attacked us" in god's own shooting gallery, would people find it "rustic" that the candidate endorses, via law, the hunting of animals from low-flying airplanes?

Posted by: pb | September 18, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

as hard as the post is trying,
now, a story about how they
cant seem to smear this
crazy b*tch...
what else can we try?
maybe reverse pysch. 101,
keep up the good work,
back lash!!!!

Posted by: usa3 | September 18, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Chris - what a ridiculous assumption.

The "Teflon" label carries with it a few components which the Zero doesn't have):

1. Responsibility. She doesn't have any in this campaign.
2. Accountability. She isn't really accountable to anybody right now.
3. Time. She has been on the national scene for all of three (3!) weeks.
4. Failure/Incompetence. While she certainly has the ability to be a failure, she hasn't been given the chance.

If she is to assume the cherished mantle of "Teflon," let her assume a significant level of responsibility, let her be accountable to an electorate, and let her do it for a couple of years, and let her be a failure.

Then, if she continues to be held favorable, you can say she is "Teflon."

Right now, she is just a sideshow...and, to be honest, a sideshow that is getting really old really fast.

Think Fred Thompson.

Posted by: Losercuda | September 18, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

No, she's not like Teflon. Her negatives are rising and as the world's financial system heads toward meltdown, the public (and hopefully the media) will care less that she can shoot and dress a moose!

Posted by: RickJ | September 18, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Sigh...

No. She's not "teflon." The teflon phenomenon has less to do with the charisma of a political figure than it does with entrenchment of opinion about that figure. People either loved Reagan or hated him. Same with Clinton. Ms. Palin may inspire deep-seated positive reactions from those on the right, and visceral ire from those on the left, but the fact is many voters who aren't all that engaged don't know squat about her. The movement in her favorability numbers bears this out. You don't get to be "teflon" until people already have an idea about who you are.

Chris, your analysis has gotten lazy as of late. Just yesterday TPM tore you a new one for posting poor examples of Drudge's influence. And you've continued to have these open-ended "what do you think?" posts that just degenerate into a flame war in the comments. Please, man, during the primaries you were a shining light in the MSM gameshow style coverage. Go back to the well, brother.

Posted by: crt12 | September 18, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Would that be Teflon?
Or Newer Improved Teflon?

Posted by: Gossamerwings | September 18, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Aspergirl wrote;"Maybe the ivory tower liberal idealists should send an anthropologist in to the heartland to figure out what kind of creature she really is so that their slurs can be more accurate."
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Poor Aspergirl who used to live in Hillaryworld and has now moved to Palinworld. I guess anyone with a uterus will do.

Forget about the fact that Palin's policies are directly opposed to Hillary's, forget the fact that Palin is a proven liar, forget the fact that Palin tried to fire the poor librarian for not banning books.....I won't even go into Troopergate, the bridge, the boat, the lack of education, using her baby as a way to garner votes for her anti-pro-choice stance. Not to mention her stance on not teaching sex-ed to children (hey THAT really worked out great for her pregnant daughter, you know, the one she threw under the bus because of her greedy ambition to be VP).

For Aspergirl, who now lives in Palinworld, none of that matters, as long as it's a she, not a he, Aspergirl will vote for her...

Sigh....it must be nice to be so carefree and simple-minded......

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Provedencelove I am not sure anyone is telling you how to vote just presenting the unflattering facts. There are people who are confusing fact for fantasy about Gov. Palin. But my issue with Gov. Palin is the fact she believes God speaks to her and from her connection to her God she will direct my life and beliefs. Nice way to separate church and state.

Look around you'll clearly see that the problems we are facing nationally and globally are beyond 'fixing and shaking' or pap answers 'I can see Russia from my window'. We are in a complex world that requires considered and measured solutions. Of course you may be rich and isolated therefore simplistic in your views and requiring simple as the answer. Well simple is what Gov. Palin is.

I am old with no children so I may vote for McCain Palin and just to create a scorched earth for you and your ilk. Let your children and grandchildren suffer while hoping to not be left behind.

Posted by: NYC | September 18, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

No, she is not Teflon. The more people learn about her, the less they will like her.

The reason she has appeared to be favored by the Teflon effect so far is that it takes time for the wheat of information to filter down through the various layers of chaff that consists of bluster, blind support, and disinformation. There has been an unusually large amount of disinformation spread by the Palin and McCain camps about her, and as it gets slowly blown away by exposure to the wind, her very unpleasant true nature will be more and more widely revealed.

This is nothing like the Teflon afforded Reagan and Clinton by their affable and articulate natures. Reagan was an actor, skilled at playing roles. Clinton was a genuinely likeable guy with an extremely disarming nature.

Sarah Palin has her fading good looks and her affected folksiness (droppin' that "g" is already getting a bit gratin' on th' ears, y'know), but her true nature is that of a vindictive, vicious, utterly self-centered and paranoid shrew, the very last person on earth you'd want as your next door neighbor, the kind who'd feed poisoned meat to your dog if it barked one night and woke her up.

As her astounding level of ignorance and deceitful nature is exposed, her teflon will wear off like she was a $2.00 fryin' pan.

Posted by: Woody Smith | September 18, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Teflon at some point will wear out, my kitchen always needs new pans, Palin, however, needs this only until the day of the election to keep it in shape, after that she can just stay there and continue to make a mess of our country like Cheney and Bush have done for 8 years, no matter how long ago their teflon disappeared. Privilege, somehow, seems to prevail here.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

"Here's a better question Chris: The Fix, does anybody care?

The answer: No, we don't."

And yet, you still post. You do, bub, you do.

BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | September 18, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Nope, not teflon. It's taken a while but the negative odors from her past are gradually permeating the room. Polls are starting to reflect this.

Posted by: billsecure | September 18, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Considering her net positive rating has been falling since her speech, I would say no.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Well, it's too soon to estimate the real effect of the scandals. For now it's telling that the Republican bounce inthe polls has all but dissapeared. So the democrats strategy of focusing in McCain who is the one to be president, seems to be working.
Palin is fated to come down in history as either a complete success, if McCain pulls if of, or as a complete disaster, if Obama wins.

Posted by: igz. | September 18, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Reagan, Bill Clinton and Sarah Palin all have one thing in common: Through it all, they just keep smiling and exude confidence! Bill Clinton ALWAYS wore a happy face, and he at least had a grasp of the FACTS, unlike Palin and Reagan.

It is a well-known fact that Reagan could read a teleprompter and give a fantastic speech but could NOT speak extemporeanously. He always had to have his cue cards, right out of Hollywood.

Palin is a lot like Reagan in that sense. She cannot handle herself in a news conference obviously, since she has not had one or an appearance on the Sunday talk shows. Her appearance on Faux News last night was scripted. She memorizes well. Hannity was so patronizing it was sickening. Palin reminded me of a Miss America Pageant contenstant giving her interview with the pageant judges!!

Palin needs to give a press conference, standing alone! Then, and ONLY then, can she prove that she really does have something important to tell us besides "thanks but no thanks"!

Posted by: Amanda | September 18, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Gee, do you think NOBAMA has a little of that Teflon stuff going on too? I mean: "they cling to their guns and bibles;" "the senator OFFICIALLY ranked NUMBER 1 most liberal;" "the Senator who claims to have sponsored the economic stimulus package and didn't even vote for it" "his most influential mentor (according to articles he has written) hates America and thinks the US is to blame for 9/11" "a close friend and acquaintance once bombed the Pentagon and Capitol"
I COULD GO ON AND ON
SO LET'S TALK "TEFLON."

Posted by: Darrell | September 18, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Teflon brain for sure. Kindergarten, elementary, high school, 6 years in college and not much stuck. After the RNC, the new face was interesting and now people are taking a second look.

She may be able to see Russian from her back porch, but not Wall Street. How dumb is America? Wait and see.

Posted by: Barbie Does Wall Street | September 18, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

The nomination of Sarah Palin has had a remarkable impact on the McCain campaign, there can be no doubt. The very fact that she was so unknown led the media to quickly investigate her and to publish facts for the electorate to consider. Many of these facts, it turns out, are appalling. I foresee her ratings slowly diminish over the next month. Her approval rating among women is already down 11%. Among those who initially reserved judgment, many will drift away from Palin - these are primarily independents and moderates. However, roughly a quarter of the electorate really do not care about anything except the fact that Palin is a born-again christian. To those people, it does not matter what Palin has said and done, because as long as she is a church-going, abortion-fighting, gun-carrying hockey mom, they will support her.

Posted by: Ted | September 18, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

All teflon-no pan. Soon all but the most right wing will see what is missing.

Posted by: BAB | September 18, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

It's not that she's "teflon", it's that the attacks on her are misfired, false and misplaced. You have to be a little bit accurate to hit her properly, and the clueless elitists have only been demonstrating their contempt of middle class America with their smears.

Maybe the ivory tower liberal idealists should send an anthropologist in to the heartland to figure out what kind of creature she really is so that their slurs can be more accurate.

So far, the stuff launched at her is about as relevant as claiming vindictively that she adds real milk to her soy lattes, expecting anyone outside the pretentious world of affected vegan soy latte drinkers to relate to the hypocrisy of such a thing.

Sarah Palin isn't "teflon", she's just much more real and relevant and meaningful than are the affected, shallow phonies who are trying to attack her.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 18, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Palin and her staff refuse to testify in Troopergate. Sound familiar?

Republicans think it is their evangelical- God-given-right to be teflon and above the law. Will Americans continue to support more of the same?

Posted by: Roy | September 18, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Because emotion trumps reason every time. Or to horribly mangle the X-files tag line, “They Want to Believe.”

The idea of Palin is a smart, passionate, good-looking woman with a fascinating life story. At first glance, she’s everything that Americans want in a leader and she arrived on the national stage in a brilliant flash of emotion. People fell in love with the idea of her and want to keep that idea.

In reality, she’s human too and she can’t be as perfect as seemed when she first walked onto the stage perfectly polished but don’t expect Americans to want to admit that. We like our hero’s to be shiny, untarnished, and glowing. So when the media points out that yes, she is human, it just bounces off.

Who wants to hear that their hero might be a bit hypocritical about sex education or might have used her power a bit more then she should? No one. That would require analysis of an emotionally perfect first impression.

The trick for Palin and McCain is going to be trying to gently deflate the image down to the reality without causing people to feel betrayed. If she can project that yes, she is human and hence imperfect she’ll keep her approval ratings because ultimately being human is forgivable. If she tries to stay perfect it’s going to eventually shatter, it has to because she is human. If that happens people are going to feel lied to and her approval rating will plummet.

Posted by: Megaduck | September 18, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

The extent to which Sarah Palin has a Teflon quality at this point is based entirely on the large number of still-sour Hillary Clinton supporters. Hillary's loss is still in recent memory, and there are a surprisingly large amount of women out there who are happy to see a woman on the ticket, regardless of what her qualifications or personal opinions may be. That will wear off over time, as more becomes known about Palin and Hillary supporters start to heal. The question, though, is: Will it wear off before November 4?

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | September 18, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Fix: analyse the numbers: does any credible person rate Palin?

Posted by: Fixinella | September 18, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

For McCain, the choice of Palin was a Hail-Mary pass. The chances of success in the end are very, very thin.

The "problem" with Palin is that she has been taken entirely out of her element. In the provincial setting of Alaska, I'm sure she was fine, but she is woefully unqualified to deal with real scrutiny and to serve in the national arena, and this becomes more evident everyday. Initially, she was popular because of her obvious charm and refreshing folksiness, but this is wearing off, day by day. And her presence on the ticket is being recognized increasingly for the cynical choice that it was.

Posted by: Arnie | September 18, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

new, not teflon and the newness is wearing off.

Posted by: Bill J | September 18, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

this is clearly a really good person, who would win the mother theresa award if there were one, based solely on her son trig. the people sense this and the media blitz to ruin her only strenghens their resolve. it boils down to the underlying humanity of the american people.

Posted by: Theman | September 18, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Nope. I find this woman horrifyingly blase about ethics, sloppy in her governing, and patronizing. I would say 95% of the folks I speak with (IRL and read on blogs) feel the same way.

At best, she had a coating of Pam Nonstick Spray on her when she came out onstage, but it has since worn off.

Posted by: Erica | September 18, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

I don't think she is teflon. I think the american people are easily fooled. With all of our supposed intelligence we are always looking for some super hero. Whether it is male or in this case a female.

Some of the comments on this site keep espousing that Obama should have picked Hillary; that Obama is inexperienced; he is a liberal. But the truth of the matter is there is no reason for this race to be so close. I think Palin is another excuse for people to vote against Obama to justify their reason for not voting for a black man for president of the united states.

A prime example: Palin/McCain is against everything most women stand for yet they come out in throngs to support her - Why? It just doesen't make sense.

Until the american people can actually get over their racial prejudices no one will ever need teflon. I believe if satan himself were actually running americans would vote for him before Obama if his skin is white!! Only in America.

Posted by: Someone thatreally cares | September 18, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

What you're seeing is a Republican party that has no hope- and they see her as a Republican- one that most of the country is still learning about and will for a while- that they can latch their hopes on. What's really sad (and quite dangerous) is that many in the the party will vote for McCain only because of her. They disagree with his policies and views, but like her and think that if they win, he will do what she wants- when it simply isn't true.

Posted by: Patrick | September 18, 2008 7:40 AM | Report abuse

I think people are more protective of people they identify with. Reagan, Clinton and I guess now Palin connect with people and that connection garners them an extra layer of protection especially against people/institutions marked as different - the "others". The media falls into this category for the most part because the nature of the job prevents them from connecting (journalists are neutral actors). So when the media is perceived as piling on, it becomes an us v. them scenario and the 'teflon' pol wins and the evil media loses.

Posted by: Connor | September 18, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Hey Chris,
Admit it that you are besotted by her. Why else would you write a column whose central premise is so easily disprovable.

Posted by: RC | September 18, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

"Is Palin Teflon?"

Probably not. Or if she is, she may be that cheap stuff that sells for a few dollars in the grocery store - the coating wears off, sooner, rather than later.

Remember that Reagan and Clinton avoided mud sticking to them for YEARS.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | September 18, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Here's a better question Chris: The Fix, does anybody care?

The answer: No, we don't.

Posted by: PalinisHOT | September 18, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: HKK | September 18, 2008 7:32 AM | Report abuse

The average American used to love Michael Jackson too. What the average American does, or does not love can be left to the local mall to decide. As for running the country, basic intellectual competence, familiarity with the country and the world, and a basic understanding of the major policy points that have led the country since at least the New Deal should be the litmus test. Three of the four candidates pass this test. Palin is not one of the three.

Posted by: Nick Collins III | September 18, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

When you apply the description "teflon" to Sarah Palin, you do so presumably for the same reasons the press did so to Ronald Reagan.

In that respect, it's a compliment.

Factless attacks "roll off like water off a duck's back", because the attacker's perspective is distorted.

There's just nothing there for the false claims to "stick" to.

You left-wing "journalists" will be using "teflon" when talking about Sarah for years-perhaps decades.

Part Two through Nine of my Palin/Reagan Comparative Study will be forthcoming.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 18, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Palin unites the Republican base, which was fractured under McCain. The only time the Democrats have won in the past 40 years has been when the Republican base was split and we offered a moderate (Southern) governor as an alternative. Now we offer an extreme liberal from Chicago against a unified base on the other side. History does not look good for the Democrats this go 'round. I have to hand it to the McCain side, they played this very well. We should have nominated Hillary - or at least Obama should have picked her as VP. Why do we continue to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

Posted by: ReUnited | September 18, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Those who are more interested in "culture" will stick by her no matter how much she lies or distorts=====unless, of course, they just lost a bundle in the market meltdown. Then maybe the rubber will hit the road and they'll be just like those of us who aren't sure we can pray our way out of this mess.

Posted by: llen Flach | September 18, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

One thing I've learnt is to doubt statistics, and I doubt yours. Your percentages are round the wrong way. MSM have consistently been negative, derogatory and downright nasty to Palin since she burst on the national scene.

Despite that the average American loves her because she is REAL, not a DC patsy, and with McCain wants to shake up the Washington club/cartel.

The left, feminists, MSM, and Democrats are being shown for the elitist hypocrites that they are - and you wonder why she is 'Teflon?'

Posted by: Jimbob5 | September 18, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

What has not been asked, as far as I can tell, is: If something happened to McCain right now and he was not able to continue as the Republican nominee, would the Republicans select Palin as their Presidential nominee? If they would, what would her chances be?

Posted by: Jan B | September 18, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Palin is the real deal. She is not some phony media created "Omessaih." We reject your attempts at destroying her so your anointed one can win. Sorry Crissy, folks are sick of the WP and others of your ilk telling us who to vote for.

Posted by: providenceLove | September 18, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Chris, but the trumpted up "scandels" aren't getting any traction. You partisian hacks in the MSM go so overboard with the wild accusations and crazy innuendo, you have ZERO cred anymore. Why don't you stop getting your sources from moveon.org and the Daily KOS and acually try and do some investigative reporting? And why don't you start with Barry Obama's associations, his background, and his voting record? Rather than using the Obama4president.com website as your only source of "objective" reporting, go to Chicago and ask around. Man, you better hope the next round of layoffs at the failing WP are based on butt kissing for Obama, cause then you'll live on there for a few more months to write more drivel.

Posted by: Mookie | September 18, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Nick Collins III | September 18, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

She is not teflon - she has been on her honeymoon with the Republican Party - the honeymoon is over and the hard work or relationship is left. ..................
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/17/bursting-the-false-palin-bubble/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 18, 2008 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Does this matter, really? Last time I checked McCain---not Palin---was the Republican presidential candidate.

Posted by: Nick | September 18, 2008 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Palin will be teflon covered for the GOP faithful - those for whom the main stream media is an evil monster of liberalism. They will hear on Fox and Limbaugh that she is Reagan reincarnated and that will be sufficient. For the rest of America it will be troubling that she is stonewalling investigations into abuse of power. The investigation into troopergate was unanimously voted forward by a Republican dominated committee - it is Alaska for goodness sake. It will be troubling that as mayor she had rape victims pay for the rape kits. It will be troubling that she left her town in nearly 20 million dollars in debt. It will be troubling that she has strict loyalty tests for firing people, both and mayor and governor, and that she replaced those individuals with unqualified cronies and high school friends. It might even be troubling that she installed a tanning bed in the governors mansion. The list of potentially troubling things goes on - not the least of which is that she does not come off as very honest or qualified.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

After listening to her shallow non answers the past few days I'd say...

Teflon? She doesn't even have a pot to coat it with.

Posted by: Terry | September 18, 2008 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Chris, it's actually a very difficult job of trying to break down someone so shameless. Palin has been blessed with the uncanny ability to lie with a straight face and to continue to do so after being called out time and time again.

Posted by: Gee | September 18, 2008 6:57 AM | Report abuse

Chris, you and your friends at the WP can't stand that the fact that the American people are seeing through your hyprocricy. What really bothers you is that Obama`s favorable numbers are lower than Palin--even thought he´s received a hell of a lot more favorable coverage (especially from the WP). Hmm...guess the American people see through that, too.
Palin (like Reagan) is the real deal. Get over it.

Posted by: NotaWPelitist | September 18, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

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