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Wag the Blog Redux: A Second 'Race' Speech?

Last week, we asked whether Fixistas agreed or disagreed with a Wall Street Journal op-ed written by Juan Williams in which he urged Barack Obama to deliver a second speech on the issue of race.

Excerpts of the most insightful and/or most thought-provoking responses as gathered and judged by post.com politics producer Sarah Lovenheim are below:

"Yes, Obama should make a second speech on race. He must say clearly that racism and hatred are wrong in principle, always and for everyone. It is no more acceptable for a black person to be a racist than a white person. Racism and hatred are the same things, no matter who is their object and in whose heart they are found." --Robert Largess

"I think another speech is a bad idea: there's nothing new to address right now, and talking about race just keeps the negative stories in the news cycle." --beth

"Actually, it was Barack Obama who said during his 'highly regarded' speech that he wanted a dialog on the issue of race in this country. Since then, he hasn't brought the subject up at all and is not likely to do so. All rhetoric and empty promises, just like every other politician." --magellan1

"Obama has to reintroduce himself to America and get back to where race (and whether he is an angry black) is the issue of a few and not a many. Given the big differences in economic policy between Obama and McCain, it seems far more important that people get convinced he is the one who best is going to look after them. To date, McCain economic comments might as well be called Bush- slanted. More is needed and more will be asked of the candidates than the same old same old fear mongering, race baiting, and liberal bashing." --nclwtk

"Juan Williams wants Obama to give a speech explaining that he is wrong and mean-spirited, and that conservatives are the ones that have been correct all along on race issues. I'm going to go out on a limb and say no, Obama's not going to do that." --copa

Thanks to everyone who contributed to the discussion.

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We can write all day but It doesn't appear to me that the problem is being addressed.Silent racism has existed in all colors for forty years. If Obama wins hatred will still exist, in the white, so called hate groups. If he looses the blacks will follow suit. The bottom line of the 2008 election is that no one wins. However America will be faced with one more problem. The answer simply be we the people once again will be the losers.

Posted by: Richard Hemmert | June 21, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Would you please do a piece on what apparently is a distinction which the Obama smear pages have drawn: the Obama smear people say that Obama did not attend a radical Muslim school, however OBAMA DID ATTEND A REGULAR MUSLIM SCHOOL.


Is that the distinction?

First people should be aware that such a distinction is the position of the Obama campaign.

Obama thinks there are 57 states - there are 57 Islamic states.


That is why he got confused - his MUSLIM TRAINING. I would like to see some facts here by the media - a great deal has been over the internet and I suspect the media is AFRAID to talk about the facts - I really would like to know if the OBAMA SMEAR PEOPLE ARE PRACTICING A DECEPTION ABOUT OBAMA'S MUSLIM SCHOOLING.


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Posted by: Anonymous | June 18, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

See universal health care would allow a lot of the folks here posting to never run out of their meds.

Lot's of Republican trolls here. I am now getting used to their writing style.

How much per post are you being paid? I see a lot of repetition.

Posted by: Deb | June 17, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

It appears to me in reading these posts about racism that those writing them seem to be very hateful. Obama gave a speech hoping Americans would think and talk among themselves about racism. He didn't plan on a continuous conversation with him involved. He needs to focus on the important issues ALL the people are facing now. I cannot, or don't want to, believe that there's so much hate. Why should anyone - black, white, brown, yellow or green - be hated? We all face the same problems and want the same things. WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO STOP PROMOTING HATE IN THIS COUNTRY? You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: sweladi | June 17, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

CC, when are you going to ban all these sickening, vicious, mentally ill racists from this blog? I just want to throw up when I read it.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

But who do you think should be picked as VP running mate?
Go to http://www.votenic.com and see what America thinks
2008 Presidential Election Weekly VP Poll.

Posted by: mans | June 17, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Those who were not satisfied with the first "race speech" won't be satisfied with a second.

Posted by: TMo | June 17, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

"Juan Williams wants Obama to give a speech explaining that he is wrong and mean-spirited, and that conservatives are the ones that have been correct all along on race issues. I'm going to go out on a limb and say no, Obama's not going to do that." --copa

My sentiments exactly. J.W. repeated all the same old right wing rhetoric on race and suggested Obama give a speech containing said rhetoric. Glad copa came out and called him on it. And thanks c.c. for posting it.

Posted by: uva yankee | June 17, 2008 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Speeches are not going to change people's feelings or predjudices. People feel how they feel. There is no right or wrong to a feeling. If a person you like gives a speech you will buy into what is said by them. If you despise a person it doesn't matter what they say, you're not going to listen to or accept their statements.

People have, pretty much, made their mind up on Mr Obama and his wife. Personally, I believe him to be an extremely intelligent racist. His association with other racists and a racist church attest to that fact. There's an old expression: "Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are." Barack Obama has shown us his friends.

Posted by: Capt. Howard | June 17, 2008 5:30 AM | Report abuse

Juan Williams is a Rupert Murdoch tool. Sen. Obama addresses these issues every day; no further Philly speech is necessary. Look at this blog if you want to see why -- no matter what the Obama campaign does the haters are gonna be out there. If he goes right, he shoulda gone left. If he says the sky is blue, they'll say it's orange. Fugggitaboutit... Obama is the best thing that's happened to politics in a long time and we are going to have a great time onto November!

Posted by: omyobama | June 17, 2008 4:25 AM | Report abuse

I believe the best thing Obama can do is simply come clean - to have on one's website a clintonesque distinction between a "radical" Muslim school and a "regular" Muslim school is a bit ridiculous.


Specifically it appears that the Obama website is saying that Obama did NOT attend a "radical" Muslim school.


However, Obama DID attend a "regular" Muslim school. I seriously doubt the American people will accept that distinction, and instead I believe that people will find that position to be another ATTEMPT AT DECEPTION BY OBAMA.


Is Obama kidding?

Why isn't the press talking about this important issue more ? Whether Obama was a Muslim or not is an important issue - the press treats it as a taboo subject.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

I believe the best thing Obama can do is simply come clean - to have on one's website a clintonesque distinction between a "radical" Muslim school and a "regular" Muslim school is a bit ridiculous.


Specifically it appears that the Obama website is saying that Obama did NOT attend a "radical" Muslim school.


However, Obama DID attend a "regular" Muslim school. I seriously doubt the American people will accept that distinction, and instead I believe that people will find that position to be another ATTEMPT AT DECEPTION BY OBAMA.


Is Obama kidding?

Why isn't the press talking about this important issue more ? Whether Obama was a Muslim or not is an important issue - the press treats it as a taboo subject.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

I believe the best thing Obama can do is simply come clean - to have on one's website a clintonesque distinction between a "radidal" Muslim school and a "regular" Muslim school is a bit ridiculous.


Specifically it appears that the Obama website is saying that Obama did NOT attend a "radical" Muslim school.


However, Obama did attend a "regular" Muslim school. I seriously doubt the American people will accept that distinction, and instead I believe that people will find that position to be another ATTEMPT AT DECEPTION BY OBAMA.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

I believe the best thing Obama can do is simply come clean - to have on one's website a clintonesque distinction between a "radidal" Muslim school and a "regular" Muslim school is a bit ridiculous.


Specifically it appears that the Obama website is saying that Obama did NOT attend a "radical" Muslim school.


However, Obama did attend a "regular" Muslim school. I seriously doubt the American people will accept that distinction, and instead I believe that people will find that position to be another ATTEMPT AT DECEPTION BY OBAMA.

.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

Hatred against whites is still RACISM. The Obama campaign has a hostility toward whites and white culture which is so nuts that the country is under great pains to even understand it.


It is crazy.


You see, in the POST RACIAL WORLD, the country is attempting to understand why the Obama campaing has adopted so many RACIST TACTICS AND HOSTILITY TOWARD THE WHITE COMMUNITY.


It may be fine to go through that exercise.


However, Obama should NOT be elected. The people around him will hurt this nation - the Obama people should not be in control of the policies of this nation.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

To the poster at 907

I really hope you are David Axelrod - the charge is that there are Obama staffers or a group closely associated with the Obama campaign like family members - who are harassed other posters on the internet boards of the Washington Post and other forums.


I really do hope you are Axelrod.


First I would like to point out that a person who is running for the highest position in the land must take the oath of office which includes an oath to support the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech. Clearly, this group of pro-Obama posters are harassing people and seeking to dicourage Freedom of Speech.


It is a horrible sign of what kind of people Obama may have in his administration and what kind of policies the Obama people plan on putting forth.


Last week, one of the posters actually threatened to sue the Washington Post if the the posters who were defending themselves against the harassers were not removed - CORRECT the pro-Obama harassers were threatening a lawsuit if their point of view did not prevail.


Crazy.


I hope you are David Axelrod - because I would like you to look into your internet posters at your campaign headquarters and come clean and tell us who


bonjedi

Translator

Blarg

and a whole bunch of others


These are the screen names of some of the pro-Obama offending parties.


Nixon had an enemies list - it appears that the Obama campaign has an enemies list too - however it is only a list of screen names.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

I believe the best thing Obama can do is simply come clean - to have on one's website a clintonesque distinction between a "radidal" Muslim school and a "regular" Muslim school is a bit ridiculous.


Specifically it appears that the Obama website is saying that Obama did NOT attend a "radical" Muslim school.


However, Obama did attend a "regular" Muslim school. I seriously doubt the American people will accept that distinction, and instead I believe that people will find that position to be another ATTEMPT AT DECEPTION BY OBAMA.

.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 17, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Obama's own half brother was qouted in the Jeruslaem Post June 13, 2008 "...if elected his brother will be a good president for Jewish people, despite his Muslim background."
there was evan a photo he presented of him and Obama in Muslim dress!

His Fightthesmears website is now looking more like propaganda!

Posted by: Andy S. | June 16, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama has some serious problems - I just found a letter I wrote to his Senate office 2 years ago on an issue which was never even answered. There must be something wrong with his management skills.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

To the voters who want to vote for Obama:

I feel sorry for you that you want to place this nation in the hands of someone so inexperienced and clearly unable to handle the position.


Having such little judgement, your lives must be a complete mess, going from one misjudgement to another.


To all the voters who have their heads straight and know that Obama would do a horrible job, please attempt to save the country from those who have such little judgement.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not the guy who needs to be trusted on race issues. He needs to explain his own racism allowing discrimination against Hispanic/Latinos. Obama has been aware that Illinois does not treat Hispanic/Latinos the same as non-Hispanic/Latinos when it comes down to the most important issue of race. There is a record that shows American Hispanics/Latinos are not allowed to file discrimination claims in Illinois based on race! This has been reported since before his run for the Presidency but it does not even appear on his Fightthesmears.com website. Fix may not care to look into this on the behalf of Latinos but it needs to be investigated none the less.

Posted by: Jesus | June 16, 2008 6:25 PM

Barack Obama is hitting rumors head on? What about this! I heard this longer than any other. Why is this not up on fightthesmears.com, why is Obama being tight lipped about this issue and in particular this Chaos45i poster who started it all. Your telling me no one has done their due diligence to check this out. Obama is yet to get the Latino vote and this may be the real reason. Why is this not important?

Posted by: Markus | June 16, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

What more has Obama to say about race? Really, do we need any another speech with mostly blacks telling us about their angry rants or Obama giving them an excuse to do so so that we can have a dialogue about it? Maybe when we talk less about race, the more it becomes invisible, the less important it becomes. The more we give excuses because of race, the more people feel entitled to government subsidies/incentives. If everybody is equal, then let's act as if it is so.

Posted by: VVV | June 16, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

The charge is out there that Obama has taken many racist tactics during the democratic primaries - AND he feels entitled to do so because of the history of racism in Jim Crow and slavery.

Obama has got to be kidding.


It is sort of like affirmative action for rules - the rules do not apply to Obama because of Jim Crow.


Not for nothing, Obama's family wasn't even in this country during Jim Crow or slavery.


However, Obama feels entitled to max out every affirmative action program he can find, and to take advantage of the situation and get in people's faces about what happened 50 or 100 or 170 years ago.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Juan Williams is correct, Barack Obama needs to explain his 20 year love-affair with his racist white and America--hating church. The only reason why Barack Obama's long assocciation with racist white and America--haters isn't a factor with the mostly liberal Democratic Party--controlled MSM; the eggheads in academia; the liberal Socialist Democrats, and the 90 to 95% of the black community who support Obama solely because he's got the same skin color that they do, is because there's a double standard on racism and racial hate acts. If John McCain had been a member of the KKK for 20 years and had attended weekley KKK meetings listening and applauding their racist speakers hatefull speeches; had given a lot of his money to them in his support; had taken his wife and children there to be indoctrinated into their racist teachings, and had given honors and awards to white KKK racists--as Barack Obama's church did to Louis Farrakhan--McCain couldn't get elected dog-catcher anywhere in America. Barack Obama though gets a free pass. Barack Obama has proven that he's a racist white and America--hater by not only becomming a member of that racist church, but staying a member for more than 20 years. Nobody joins and stays a member of any church, group, gang, club or whatever for 20 years unless they agree with what's going on.

Posted by: madhatter | June 16, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Reverse Racism is THE ISSUE this year.


Obama has made a massive mistake with his tactics.


Age will also be an issue - however it will be that Obama is too young, not that McCain is too old. Again, the Obama people are making a critical error on an issue which will bomerrang on them. Not too bright.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Reverse Racism is THE ISSUE this year.


Obama has made a massive mistake with his tactics.


Age will also be an issue - however it will be that Obama is too young, not that McCain is too old. Again, the Obama people are making a critical error on an issue which will bomerrang on them. Not too bright.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Reverse Racism is THE ISSUE this year.


Obama has made a massive mistake with his tactics.


Age will also be an issue - however it will be that Obama is too young, not that McCain is too old. Again, the Obama people are making a critical error on an issue which will bomerrang on them. Not too bright.

.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Reverse Racism is THE ISSUE this year.


Obama has made a massive mistake with his tactics.


Age will also be an issue - however it will be that Obama is too young, not that McCain is too old. Again, the Obama people are making a critical error on an issue which will bomerrang on them. Not too bright.

.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Reverse Racism is THE ISSUE this year.


Obama has made a massive mistake with his tactics.


Age will also be an issue - however it will be that Obama is too young, not that McCain is too old. Again, the Obama people are making a critical error on an issue which will bomerrang on them. Not too bright.

.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

This is not the first I've heard of Barack Obama and his racism against Hispanics. I can't just dismiss it like some people here. Fix you are saying nothing good about yourself by your silence you know! You can speak so please do so. Or do you not care?

Posted by: Reagan | June 16, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Bitter Bill-
Ain't you never heard of the one drop rule?

Posted by: Mason | June 16, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

I think Americans are created equally. The question I now have is does, Barack think that this ideal includes Hispanics?

Posted by: Marty | June 16, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Mexicans are just jealous of Baracks success

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not the guy who needs to be trusted on race issues. He needs to explain his own racism allowing discrimination against Hispanic/Latinos. Obama has been aware that Illinois does not treat Hispanic/Latinos the same as non-Hispanic/Latinos when it comes down to the most important issue of race. There is a record that shows American Hispanics/Latinos are not allowed to file discrimination claims in Illinois based on race! This has been reported since before his run for the Presidency but it does not even appear on his Fightthesmears.com website. Fix may not care to look into this on the behalf of Latinos but it needs to be investigated none the less.

Posted by: Jesus | June 16, 2008 6:25 PM

I like what Jesus said. It is ridiculous for Obama to give a speech on a subject that he does not truely understand or respect when it comes to others.

Posted by: Marty | June 16, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

If Obama gives more speeches on race, he won't have actually started a national conversation on race, but only a monologue. Why is it that only The Newt has taken up Obama's challenge to talk about race?

It's ridiculous for Juan Williams to demand a race speech of Obama when he himself has not chosen to do so.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama does not need to help hispanics Lett them rot. Barack will win without those losers.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 16, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama racist? There was no indications during this entire election that was even possible. Besides, he has not even mentioned this once to Latinos who's vote he is and has been courting. What a great guy he has to be!

Posted by: Roxy | June 16, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I think the Fix hates Hispanics or truely loves protecting Obama. Most likely the exact same thing in this case. Let's here if there is there... there. Whats the hold up.

Posted by: Mirken | June 16, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not the guy who needs to be trusted on race issues. He needs to explain his own racism allowing discrimination against Hispanic/Latinos. Obama has been aware that Illinois does not treat Hispanic/Latinos the same as non-Hispanic/Latinos when it comes down to the most important issue of race. There is a record that shows American Hispanics/Latinos are not allowed to file discrimination claims in Illinois based on race! This has been reported since before his run for the Presidency but it does not even appear on his Fightthesmears.com website. Fix may not care to look into this on the behalf of Latinos but it needs to be investigated none the less.

Posted by: Jesus | June 16, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

This election will spinter the country.


Posted by: JohnAdams1 | June 16, 2008 5:42 PM

LOL. Unlike, er, 2004? or 2000?

Some mean people out there, and they take it way too seriously. For example:

http://www.downtheavenue.com/2004/11/dumf*ckistan_am.html

(replace the * w/u)

Posted by: JD | June 16, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama is half white. Why do people call him black? Tiger Woods won the US Open today -- saw him on TV with his white wife. Tiger is half Asian and half Black but called black. They had their one-year old daughter out there also. What race is she?

Posted by: Bitter Bill | June 16, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

As one who can never tell the personal political leanings of most national reporters, I've found in the last few months that Juan Williams (a longtime favorite, otherwise) has an 'issue' with Barack Obama.
Not overt, really, but always 'something' wrong, always something negative about Obama. When he's complimentary, it can't be left alone - it's followed by something negative. Don't believe me - watch and listen. Is it simple envy? I don't know.

Posted by: Larry J, Houston TX | June 16, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama talked about irresponsibility of black men towards theri offsprings yesterday.

His entire manner and speech pattern and content was that of a preacher in a black church. Many people in the audience were making comments of agreement.

I don't want a protestant preacher as a president; I don't want a man substituting motivational jabber for policy or political speech. He is running for office not for the ministry.

This election will spinter the country.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | June 16, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

JUAN WILLIAMS should give a speech a bout race, he seems to know so much about it, he also an American, and it is a responsibility of every american to see thatrecism belongs to the dustbin

Posted by: NGOJE | June 16, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

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