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Wag the Blog Redux: Is Palin Teflon?

As noted in Friday's Wag the Blog, "negative stories rarely stuck to" former presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton -- call it the Teflon quality.

We wondered whether Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin might have the same quality. As most recent polls show, despite a wealth of stories critical of Palin and questioning John McCain's selection of her as a running mate, she remains generally popular across the country. Does this mean Palin has the Teflon quality? And if so, can she maintain it all the way through Election Day?

Post.com politics producer Sarah Lovenheim culled the most thoughtful/insightful responses and posted them below. Thanks to everyone who weighed in!

"Teflon. I would say more like Flubber. She bounces around with her talking points in a sort of folksy way; quoting many different anecdotes on the shape of the economy "Yeah its bad and we will do something about it.", foreign policy "I can see Russia from my house.", etc...the content is noticeably shallow and banal. Wait until she is pressed for some real facts on her next interview and watch the teflon or flubber or whatever other deflective metaphor fall right off." --hayden1

"No...Palin is not teflon. She seems more like Velcro. Her favorability ratings have gone way down as people learn what she's about. Aerial hunting of wolves. Abuse of power and having staff ignore subpoenas. Lying about the Bridge to Nowhere. Nope, she's like flypaper." --Beth in VA

"It's WAY too early to talk about "teflon." It has only been 3 weeks since most Americans first heard of her- and for most of that time, there has been only one narrative from her camp with very little engagement with any potential troublemakers. I suspect that her popularity will wane..." --jhherring

"Teflon? NO IF she were truly Teflon, then her 'handlers' would allow her to be interviewed freely, and answer questions freely, and express her opinions freely, and participate in the 'Troopergate' investigation. It's not about what sticks or does not stick. It's about getting the facts out there so that thinking Americans can choose wisely about the future of our country..." --Kelly

"Palin is not Teflon. She fires up both the conservative and progressive bases, and she is turning off the majority of independents. The honeymoon is ending." --spotfoul

"If Palin is "teflon" it will because the media makes her so. The more shrill the attacks by the main stream press, the more one sided the debate becomes by a press that decries her lack of experience while praising Obama's, the more attacks on her family while they ignore others, the more "teflon" she becomes..." --Teflon Bill

Palin is teflon and will be through election day...has handled herself with a great deal of skill (much like Reagan and Clinton) in preventing the various criticisms of her from gaining traction by keeping her cool and focusing on voters while everyone else is focusing on her." --jw

"Is Palin Teflon? No. Yes, she does great when speaking to a friendly audience in a controlled environment, but put her under an objective light, and her so-called Teflon scratches...The more we learn about Palin, the less the majority like her. (Evangelicals and staunch conservatives are in her corner.)" --scj, anytown, usa

"Palin is only Teflon in terms of how she is seen in the eyes of the Republican base... The bottom line is that the base of the GOP, for which Palin was tapped to court, doesn't care if what she says is untrue. They are simply too infatuated with the idea of a pro-gun, pro-choice, anti-tax, and very religious vixen on the Republican ticket, to be bothered by such trivial things like facts. In other words they'll buy the pig, lipstick and all." --Irish Bruin

"Sarah Palin is no Ronald Reagan and she certainly isn't Bill Clinton. She's having her 15 minutes but the clock is ticking..." --Jeremy

"No, she's not like Teflon. Her negatives are rising and as the world's financial system heads toward meltdown, the public (and hopefully the media) will care less that she can shoot and dress a moose!" --RickJ

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Teflon? Are you kidding? Palin's favorability numbers have been diving and her unfavorables climbing. There is now only an 8 pt favorability spread - the lowest of the four candidates. And high or low, by definition, teflon means the numbers don't move based on events. Palin's numbers have been the most volatile of the four candidates and there are still anywhere from 10-30% (depending on which recent poll you read) of voters who have not formed an opinion about her. That's not what teflon is made of.

As Nate Silver pointed out on his excellent blog, fivethirtyeight.com, the reason Bill Clinton was "teflon" was that nearly everyone in America had a strong opinion about him that was not likely to change based on events. You loved him or hated him and that was that. 98% of the poulation had an opinion about Bill Clinton and more than half felt strongly one way or the other.

On the other hand only 65-90% (depending on the poll) of the country has an opinion about Palin at the moment and fewer than half feel strongly about her. Half of Americans might still change their opinion or have not yet formed one, and these people can still be swayed by events. She is not teflon by a long shot, though she is the kind of polarizing figure who might become it eventually.

Her favorability ratings have been dropping and her unfav's rising. There is still a net positive but her favorables are still hovering at 50% or lower and her strong favorables are under 30%. If the trend continues, she may become more like G.W.B. than Bill Clinton. Over the past three years Bush's favorability ratings have hovered around 30% - often a bit lower. His unfavorables have been twice as high and events have not done much to change those numbers. Anti-teflon you might say. Everyone has an opinion about him and it's not likely to change. If Palin can't drum up some goodwill among the 35-50% (depending on the poll) of the poulation that has either a weak opinion or none at all, she will never be Bill Clinton's brand of teflon. Her 30% strong favorables are the likely the same folks who still love Bush. The rest can move - and has been moving. If it ever stabilizes we can then decide whether she is Clinton teflon or Bush anti-matter alternate universe teflon.

Posted by: sarasotajoe | September 26, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Don't you find it interesting how the media has been ignoring Biden's shocking gaffes?

Internet buzzes with rumours Biden will be replaced by Hillary as Obama's running mate, read more:

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: DCfred | September 25, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Palin is teflon, because the media allows her to be, forget about what she doesn't know and ask why the media don't want to know!

Posted by: Kevin, DE | September 25, 2008 4:43 AM | Report abuse

Palin, did anyone see the interview with Kathy Couric, sad like the Campagin they are running. Palin couldn't even give Kathy one McCain accompishments, she said she would mail them back to Kathy, I am still laughing, but Kathy should have not like her get away with that. Can we have the election today, so we can put Mr Obama to work now, and stop Palin/McCain from trying to fear Some Americans in to voting for them.

Posted by: Ruth | September 25, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin needs to speak out for women, how can she listen to McCain and not speak to the press?...she is acting like an abused woman in an abusive relationship, never in history has a politician been silienced from the American political arena. Who is buying this stuff?...she needs to stand up for her rights and drop McCain like the old fool he is. McCain will make her work for 77 cents per hour compared to 99 cents per hour for a man. McCain has voted time and time again against women and their right to make a s much as a man does...Palin needs to hit McCain in the head with a teflon pan to knock him into this century. McCain is a fool and Sarah by not standing up for her right to free speech is a bigger fool. Palin will go down in history as the barbie doll of the McCain campains run for president. Vote Obama, the only choice left.

Posted by: Toilet | September 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin's shiny Teflon suit comes from an army of handlers and managers who keep her far away from any situations that might tarnish it. This will play well with the right-wing faithful (which is why she is along for the ride) but it does nothing to attract independents who might actually like to see a question or 2 answered or an issue or 3 addressed.

Who is the sexist here? Outsiders who expect Palin to receive the same treatment as other candidates, or the McCain/Palin handlers who are shepherding her around like some fragile fairy princess, making sure that she has special "girl rules" for the debate, and generally keeping the real Palin a secret for some reason.

Posted by: Cal | September 24, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Palin is Teflon; the kind that scratches out easily and ends up in your food. In fact, this deterioration is happening right now and it's showing in all the polls nationally and otherwise. It's about time!

No, the American people will not allow this pseudo-teflon candidate to go through the cracks. It happened eight years ago, and four years ago, but it won't happen this time around!

Posted by: JoeG. | September 24, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

No, she's not Teflon.

A poll of likely Alaska voters from Sept. 20-22 shows her favorable/unfavorable ratings are now 68/27.

From Aug. 30-Sept. 2, they were 82/13.

Her unfavorable ratings have DOUBLED in her own state since McCain chose her as VP.

These results were released last night. The way she's been going, we might not let her back in the state when she and McCain lose.

National Palin supporters, take note. There's a lot about her you don't know, and we're just figuring out. And it ain't pretty.

Posted by: Bluedog AK | September 24, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if John McCain bothered to vet Sarah Palin's Pastor.

I seriously wonder if he's seen this video of her being prayed over.

Kind of scary actually.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/the-witch-hunter-anoints_b_128805.html

Posted by: jr | September 24, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

37th&OStreet; it must be very comforting to be able to blame minorities for everything that goes wrong in this country. I'm sure it was some black guy wispering in Bush's ear that got him to invade Iraq. And I'm sure it was some hispanic guy that elbowed Chaney at the wrong time causing him to shoot his friend in the face. And when CNBC talks to traders on the stock exchange floor, all I see are black, hispanic, and asian guys. What a backward A$$ piece of crap you are.

Posted by: GabsDaD | September 24, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Chris, what data are you looking at? Her negatives have jumped 20% in the last two weeks. She is now viewed negatively by 62% of voters according to the news this morning. That is almost as Teflon as Bush.

Posted by: Nick Collins III | September 24, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

We’ve been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain’s running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false, or misleading.

1. Palin did NOT cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she increased funding and signed a bill that will triple per-pupil funding over three years for special needs students with high-cost requirements. (Emphasis added)

2. She did NOT demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term. (Emphasis added)

3. She was NEVER a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982. (Emphasis added)

4. Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a "courtesy" when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.

5. Palin has NOT pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum." (Emphasis added)

Clarification: The summary originally said that Palin "tripled" per-student funding. The bill Palin signed will triple per-student funding for what Alaska calls "intensive needs" students, but has not done so yet. We also reworded that sentence to make clear the tripling is for funding for special needs students with particularly high costs. Special needs funding overall increased as well.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Posted by: InSearchOfTruth | September 24, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"John McCain is a friend, a patriot, and a hero.

But John and I have some fundamental disagreements as it relates to the Guard, and the interests of veterans.

John McCain voted against billions of dollars in additional funding for veterans’ health care – against $2 million for TBI research… against $500 million for mental health issues… against $400 million for inpatient and outpatient care.

John wants to ration veterans’ health care to those with combat injuries, which would mean that millions fewer veterans would have access to VA medical care.

And while Barack and I supported Senator Jim Webb’s bipartisan bill to update the GI Bill from the get-go, John initially opposed it because he thought it was too generous.

John’s version treated the Guard as second class citizens when it came to educational benefits.

Those are the facts. But don’t take it from me. Ask Disabled American Veterans, which represents millions of vets. They keep track of these things… John voted with DAV 20 percent of the time.

Barack Obama – 80 percent of the time.

Or ask the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. They keep track, too. They give letter grades, and they gave John McCain a “D”. Barack got at B+.

So as much as I admire John, I disagree with him.

Being a veteran isn’t the same as being there for veterans.

We need more than a great soldier, we need a wise leader."

Joe Biden in his address to the National Guard, Sept. 22, 2008.

Posted by: Bluespaceoddity | September 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chris, How's about Elisa Doolittle--not all Alaska women are like Governor Doolittle. Please, lower 48 people, don't put all of us in this "I can see Russia" category.

Posted by: In Alaska | September 24, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin was a gamble like VP pick. Yes, it grabbed all of the attention away from Obama & the Democrats after the convention. Now, though, what of substance does Sarah Palin offer? That is the question. Palin's reformer image has been put in jeapordy by the Troopergate scandal. However, she needs to stand up and tout her battle & victory against Murkowski in the 06 governor's race. He's in big with Young & Stevens, and she has the reformer image of taking them on to try and change the Alaska Republican party. Make it her word vs. the Democrats. She could even cry (worked for Hillary in NH) and say she's the victim of the type of smear partisan politics by the Obama campaign that Obama himself claims to want to change. She also offers significant experience in energy. She has more experience in dealing with energy than McCain, Obama & Biden combined. Living in Alaska and being governor over those type of resources gives you that. Plus, she has experience in passing the oil pipeline and raking in big surpluses to balance budgets in Alaska. Something else McCain, Obama & Biden have never done. Palin has actually made executive decisions, as McCain, Obama & Biden have never did.

Palin offers a bit more than what people give her credit for. She is the governor of a state as large as California & Texas combined. Palin's executive & energy experience combined with McCain's foreign policy credentials & both of their maverick streaks makes them a formidable team. It beats the US Senate experience of Obama/Biden, which is all they got.

Posted by: reason | September 24, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Please go read this for yourself. A writer with inside info reveals that Todd Palin illegally got into Wooten's Worker's Comp file and the Palins contacted the insurance company to deny Wooten's back injury claim. Sources already testified that the Palins did this. Todd Palin actually took photos of Wooten on a snowmobile and sent it into the insurance company to prove Wooten wasn't injured. So, the Palins used their inside line to confidential files to interfere with an insurance investigation and get revenge. This also further confirms that Todd Palin has his handprints all over any access points of the governor's office, even the illegal look into confidential files. This, in the writer's opinion, is the real reason that the Palins don't want the Troopergate files public. I agree!

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/532372.html

Thanks for checking into this.


Posted by: Anna | September 24, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Bonus Quote of the Day
"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed. He said, 'look, here's what happened.'"

-- Sen. Joe Biden, in an interview with CBS News.

Of course, as Reason points out, Roosevelt wasn't president in 1929 and televisions were still experimental.

Posted by: Helen | September 24, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I have been on the fence concerning Sara Palin until now.
I Just finished reading Sam Harris' article in the current Newsweek (9-29-08). It has knocked me off the fence.
I would not vote for his person for any political job.
Mr. Harris expounds on all the things that have made many people like Mrs. Palin, and have made her a popular governor, however her negatives make her unqualified to serve in a national office.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

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The Major Cause Of The Wall Street Crisis Is Affirmative Action

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Clearly a MAJOR CAUSE of the Wall Street crisis is that they have NOT been selecting the best people to run the Wall Street firms.


The liberals have been pressing through these affirmative action programs at the Wall Street Firms and MBA Schools.


Wall Street has a third-rate team on the field - they have a bunch of sheep who owe their loyalty not to their own merit and brains but to the affirmative action programs which gave them their outsized salaries ABOVE MORE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES WHO COULD ACTUALLY DO THE JOB.

Instead Wall Street has HIRED A THIRD-RATE STAFF which goes along with the program.

The Smart A-List people have been pushed aside by the liberals who DO NOT CARE IF THE WORK IS GETTING DONE PROPERLY, rather they believe they have won when then have diversity and who cares if the balance sheet is a mess. LET'S BE CLEAR HERE THE NEW YORK LIBERALS ARE A MAJOR CAUSE OF THE WALL STREET CRISIS AND MESSING UP OUR REAL ESTATE MARKET AND THE FINANCIAL MARKETS.


Angry Liberals.


The Liberals took control of the MBA Admissions Boards of the top MBA Business Schools in the early 90s - they started admitting THIRD-RATE PEOPLE TO GO TO MBA SCHOOL.

Then the Wall Street firms followed suit - throwing MERIT-BASED CRITERIA aside - the deciding factor became the color of one's skin - IF YOU WERE A WHITE MALE FROM THE SUBURBS YOU WERE IN A CATEGORY WHICH HAD DRAMATICALLY MORE DIFFICULT STANDARDS FOR PROMOTIONS AND HIRING.


THIS WAS ALWAYS A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN.


WALL STREET HAS A THIRD-RATE TEAM ON THE FIELD WHICH HAS GONE ALONG WITH THE CROOKS FOR YEARS.


THE FIRST-RATE TEAM WAS THERE ATTEMPTING TO GET IN THE DOOR HOWEVER THE NEW YORK LIBERALS TURNED THEM AWAY.


THE FIRST-RATE TEAM WOULD HAVE EASILY AVERTED THIS CRISIS.


SO WHAT DO WE DO NOW? PUT ANOTHER AFFIRMATIVE ACTION GUY IN CHARGE OF THE ECONOMY?


MCCAIN HAS THE EXPERIENCE AND MILITARY BACKGROUND TO FIGHT THE WALL STREET LOBBYISTS, SET THE WALL STREET BROKERS STRAIGHT, STOP THE OUTSIZED COMPENSATION PACKAGES AND PLACE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY ON THE RIGHT TRACK TO BEING STRONG AGAIN.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure it was a typo by Irish Bruin, but Palin is NOT pro-choice...and neither is the GOP base.

Posted by: Dave | September 24, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I cannot understand why Lou Dobb, Bill O'Reiley and others in the media keep comparing Palin with Obama or even with Cliinton with regards to their experience. They seem to forget that level of education often reflects a person's intelligence. Clinton and Obama went to Ivy league schools, did their law degrees even though both of them did not come from rich backgrounds. They made it own their own without push from their fathers to get in like Bush. After our recent experience, we should realize that a smart person can learn quickly and be very successful while a dumb person remains in power by hook or crook. Palin did a degree in journalism from a school which does not even make to the annual ranking list by US News, I think. I know this since I am an educator in a school of high learning, I get students from some US schools where after their college degree are less knowledgeable than a high school student from some foreign countries, sucah as Britain, India, China and even France and Ireland. How can education and intelligence not important. Thinking about it, Didn' McCain gradulate near the bottom of the class.
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You are nuts. I think we depend too much on education as a gauge. One of the dumbest people I have ever known was a Harvard graduate and one of the smartest went to trade school. Remember Harry Truman only had a high school education and I think he was one of the best Presidents we ever had. I believe Palin is much smarter than Obama or Biden.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse


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The Major Cause Of The Wall Street Crisis Is Affirmative Action

.


.



Clearly a MAJOR CAUSE of the Wall Street crisis is that they have NOT been selecting the best people to run the Wall Street firms.


The liberals have been pressing through these affirmative action programs at the Wall Street Firms and MBA Schools.


Wall Street has a third-rate team on the field - they have a bunch of sheep who owe their loyalty not to their own merit and brains but to the affirmative action programs which gave them their outsized salaries ABOVE MORE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES WHO COULD ACTUALLY DO THE JOB.

Instead Wall Street has HIRED A THIRD-RATE STAFF which goes along with the program.

The Smart A-List people have been pushed aside by the liberals who DO NOT CARE IF THE WORK IS GETTING DONE PROPERLY, rather they believe they have won when then have diversity and who cares if the balance sheet is a mess. LET'S BE CLEAR HERE THE NEW YORK LIBERALS ARE A MAJOR CAUSE OF THE WALL STREET CRISIS AND MESSING UP OUR REAL ESTATE MARKET AND THE FINANCIAL MARKETS.


Angry Liberals.


The Liberals took control of the MBA Admissions Boards of the top MBA Business Schools in the early 90s - they started admitting THIRD-RATE PEOPLE TO GO TO MBA SCHOOL.

Then the Wall Street firms followed suit - throwing MERIT-BASED CRITERIA aside - the deciding factor became the color of one's skin - IF YOU WERE A WHITE MALE FROM THE SUBURBS YOU WERE IN A CATEGORY WHICH HAD DRAMATICALLY MORE DIFFICULT STANDARDS FOR PROMOTIONS AND HIRING.


THIS WAS ALWAYS A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN.


WALL STREET HAS A THIRD-RATE TEAM ON THE FIELD WHICH HAS GONE ALONG WITH THE CROOKS FOR YEARS.


THE FIRST-RATE TEAM WAS THERE ATTEMPTING TO GET IN THE DOOR HOWEVER THE NEW YORK LIBERALS TURNED THEM AWAY.


THE FIRST-RATE TEAM WOULD HAVE EASILY AVERTED THIS CRISIS.


SO WHAT DO WE DO NOW? PUT ANOTHER AFFIRMATIVE ACTION GUY IN CHARGE OF THE ECONOMY?


MCCAIN HAS THE EXPERIENCE AND MILITARY BACKGROUND TO FIGHT THE WALL STREET LOBBYISTS, SET THE WALL STREET BROKERS STRAIGHT, STOP THE OUTSIZED COMPENSATION PACKAGES AND PLACE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY ON THE RIGHT TRACK TO BEING STRONG AGAIN.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 24, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not Teflon. Sarah Palin IS George Bush in Lipstick.

Posted by: jfg | September 24, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Yes Palin has become a TEFLON person because the liberal news made her so.

Posted by: Hector P. Luat | September 24, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

I cannot understand why Lou Dobb, Bill O'Reiley and others in the media keep comparing Palin with Obama or even with Cliinton with regards to their experience. They seem to forget that level of education often reflects a person's intelligence. Clinton and Obama went to Ivy league schools, did their law degrees even though both of them did not come from rich backgrounds. They made it own their own without push from their fathers to get in like Bush. After our recent experience, we should realize that a smart person can learn quickly and be very successful while a dumb person remains in power by hook or crook. Palin did a degree in journalism from a school which does not even make to the annual ranking list by US News, I think. I know this since I am an educator in a school of high learning, I get students from some US schools where after their college degree are less knowledgeable than a high school student from some foreign countries, sucah as Britain, India, China and even France and Ireland. How can education and intelligence not important. Thinking about it, Didn' McCain gradulate near the bottom of the class.

Posted by: PNNJ | September 24, 2008 5:56 AM | Report abuse

Palin is no Teflon candidate but she is a flash in the pan.To compare her to Clinton or Reagan is the ultimate insult to these two popular Presidents.Remember,she is not at the top of the ticket.This election will be a referendum on the incompetence and waywardness of the current Republican party.The current economic meltdown has overshadowed all other issues and will be the deciding factor in the election.
Game,set,match.Obama wins.

Posted by: Pollcat | September 24, 2008 5:33 AM | Report abuse

Teflon? Nah, I'd be happy to stick to her if given the chance.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | September 24, 2008 4:39 AM | Report abuse

Chris, I wish that you'd just get back to straight reporting. These types of "polls" are bound to simply reinforce the partisanship we already know exists. And in any case, new polls suggest that Palin's negatives are on the rise. So what is your purpose in asking your readers to discuss this--again?

Posted by: Zoe | September 24, 2008 4:22 AM | Report abuse

Will "Garbo" speak? Does McCain know we now have talkie movies and television? Love those photo ops...lol

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

"One can only imagine the uproar if Palin had said something so utterly ignorant."

She'd have to be allowed to talk first. We're still waiting for her to get permission.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"talking points,not ready to be president.
that is so lame.jimmy carter, bill clinton,
ronald reagan, barack obama,all viable candidates with no foreign policy experience."

And all capable of handling press inquiries. What's her excuse? Such a tough little "pitbull". More like a French poodle.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

To demonstrate the unmitigated bias of this rag all one has to do is take a brief look at the front page and see not one mention of Biden's colossally stupid statement about how FDR spoke to the national on TV after the 1929 stock market crash.

One can only imagine the uproar if Palin had said something so utterly ignorant.

Posted by: info | September 23, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

George Bush is teflon,
right-wing radicals, drug use,
the only ones who seem able
to come to grips with his
sham qualifications
are 1/4 of the nation. Fox america
is unable to say anything negative
about him. They must fear they
are closet commies.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

In the wake of the latest Rick Davis scandal, the teflon melts away. I don't think that McCain/Palin is going to have much luck escaping the truth...they are just an extension of Bush/Cheney/Rove.

Perhaps dirtier.

If you want the latest on the scandal and would like to catch the racist John McCain ad that got the ball rolling, it's at:
http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccains-fannie-flak.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | September 23, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Funny how they picked only negative responses.

Expect nothing less from the Compost -- the mouthpiece of the Obama campaign.

Posted by: info | September 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

obama is teflon,
radicals, drug use,
the only ones who seem able
to come to grips with his
sham qualifications
are the black community,
who regularly protest his
events. White media america
is unable to say anything negative
about him. They must fear they
are closet racists.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 23, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

talking points,
not ready to be president.
that is so lame.
jimmy carter, bill clinton,
ronald reagan, barack obama,
all viable candidates
with no foreign policy
experience.
in fact the last one
doesnt have any executive
experience besides
sitting on bill ayers board.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 23, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I am proud of america
and it's diversity,
that a half wit metro
sexual like Chris Cillizza
gets a chance to play with
crayons and a playskool
computer.
God Bless America

Posted by: usa3 | September 23, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

America is sick and tired of all the
loser 'journalist' majors.
I quess sitting on an editors
lap makes you an expert on
foreign policy.
This article is perfect proof,
that you dont have a clue.
Gov. Palin works for the people,
this is just another papparazzi
insanity, you think you can slander
and libel a person, to inflate
your malformed egos'
I think you liberals should
listen to Bill Clinton
and hear a reasonable
reaction to someone who has
different views then your own.
This is a Witch Hunt.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 23, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

This so called war on the media from the McCain/Palin camp is such a joke. It is the Republicans brainstorm to keep the media from Palin and any legitimate questions that she may have to answer and can't.

Posted by: sally ann | September 23, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

The media hasn't been critical of Palin at all. This woman hasn't held one press conference. The Mccain camp is keeping her away from reporters. That should have been the talking point for the media everyday. When has any VP in history refused to take questions from the media or press conference? If you can't answer that question that means Palin is still popular in the states becaus the media isn't critical at all. You call the media being critical of Palin, when a reporter asked to interview her and the Mccain campaign offers her dad for the interview, critical. Thats a joke. If Mccain wins the election, its a possiblity that Palin would become president and if thats not a good enough reason for the media to stop playing around and start doing their job, especially when were fighting 2 wars and a major economic crisis on wall st. Than I don't know anything that will. Stop covering Palin if she doesn't answer questions. I don't want to hear about Palin anymore if she continues to refuse interviews and questions.

Posted by: Linda | September 23, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is in over her head. The debate is going to be a wash because were going to see just how little Palin know about anything. Its just too much to learn in a short period of time. The first town hall meeting Sarah Palin held with Mccain was a wash. Palin answered questions from the audience but was not the eloquent speaker when reading the teleprompter of a prepared speech. Palin was unpresidential, She didn't answer the questions, She looked like an amuature and sounded like an amuature. We all have to realize being a VP or presidential canidate one has to be well versed and have an oppinion on those issues. Palin isn't well versed and her only oppinion is Mccains and thats not good. The media needs to stop fooling themselves and tell the American people the truth. Palin is not ready to be VP and definately not president. This election is turning into a joke. The Mccain campaign wont even let her convince those of us that believe she's a fraud. They don't want us to discover that Mccain has bad judgement and they didn't vet her properly and most of all she is not ready to step in should Mccain win the election as president.

Posted by: Damon | September 23, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

This so called war on the media from the McCain/Palin camp is such a joke. It is the Republicans brainstorm to keep the media from Palin and any legitimate questions that she may have to answer and can't.

Posted by: sally ann | September 23, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a fraud and Mccain and his campaign are a bunch of liars. The Mccain campaign are trying to decieve voters into voting for him and they wont let Palin talk because she's not ready to talk. If Palin doesn't answer questions than they shouldn't cover her. I wouldn't stand there for hours listening to a prepared speech of a campaigns talking points and couldn't question the candidate about the speech. How stupid is the media anyway?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Theres nothing special about Palin. The only excitement about Palin is from republicans and after the crisis on wall street, who cares if republicans are energized. Palin is an empty suite. Theres nothing to Palin. The media is making a big deal about her and frankly I don't know why. The Mccain campaign are playing the media for fools. The average American doesn't know who Palin is or how to pronounce her name if they do. Its a media hype and frankly, I'm really tired of hearing about her. What has she done? What does she know? Oh I forgot, she doesn't answer reporters questions. Who cares about Palin? Nobody but republicans. The media needs to get off of Palin, its boring.

Posted by: Janice | September 23, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

The media lets Palin get away with it. Palin is the only candidate that hasn't given a press conference. The media is helping the Mccain campaign slide Palin by or given her enough time to get the Mcccain talking points down packed. Which goes back to how much do we really care about the 2 wars were fighting in Iraq and the economic crash on Wall St. Mccain's judgement should be scrutinized. No matter how much foreign policy they cram into Palins head it doesn't change the fact that she is not ready to lead and had no foreign policy experience nor interested at all. It doesn't change the fact that she is given an oppinion, Mccains talking points instead of understanding the issues and formulating her own perception of the facts. The America as we once known it may never be the same. Mccain has said and done allot that should have ended his campaign a long time ago or now but because its Mccain he continues to get a pass. If it was any other candidate who chose Palin or made numerous gaffes and mistakes, their campaign would have been atleast 20 points behind in the polls because of the media's involvement. Mccain is the only candidat in this race that has a shopping list of gaffes and continues to run even in the polls because of repeated passes. So why wouldn't anybody think Palin would be anything but teflon, Mccain has it too.

Posted by: Brandy | September 23, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

When the McCain camp doesn't even let FOX reporters sit in, you know it's bad.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

KOZ - You can draw hundreds of people to a wreck, thousands to a big wreck and Sarah Palin is a wreck! This mental lightweight, vain twit, is nothing more than, as was so well put below, a bimbo! A BIMBO! And you would have this dolly one heartbeat away from the Presidency? I didn't think even the most right wing partisan would be that silly.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Andrea Mitchell reported tonight on Rachel Maddow's MSNBC show the campaign's plan is to keep Palin under wraps (no questions from media) until the 90 minute vp debate. Mac's campaign fully understands she is totally incapable of answering even the simplest of questions.

The only issue is whether the MSM will put up with this unprecedented junk. This is really a sad day for American journalism. Today for the real news of the campaign -- of Palin -- we turn to the National Enquirer and the blogs. For BroderWorld bloviating, we turn to the Post and the MSM.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Well...... if Palin is kept away from reporters as she was today at the U.N. then nothing will stick to her as nothing will be thrown at her. I want to hear her answer some really, really tough questions in a full-fledged news conference format. Every other newcomer VP candidate has done this in the last 30 years - and not a month after their selection, but within days! Why is Palin not being held to the same standard? The debate on October 2 is just not enough. Palin should hold a news conference with the press corps from the main stream media before the end of September. And if she refuses then the media should report it, and report it, and report it! And maybe then some of her "teflon" would chip away.

Posted by: DB | September 23, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin, Palinmania. Palin bounce. Palin teflon. All of that foolishness is a media creation. When the media stops the hype, the hype will stop. Leave it to Kos to introduce objective facts to the discussion. Kos's take: Palin has not changed the race one bit.

From today's DailyKos:
"In Colorado, Obama takes 49 percent to 45 percent for McCain while in Michigan Obama stands at 48 percent as compared to 44 percent for McCain. The contest in Minnesota, once considered a lock for Obama, is also quite close with Obama at 47 percent and McCain 45 percent. Only in Wisconsin does Obama have an edge -- 49 percent to 42 percent -- outside the statistical margin of error for the poll.

Those results are remarkably similar to data from July Quinnipiac polls in each of the four states and suggest that despite the massive media coverage surrounding the two parties' national nominating conventions as well as the vice presidential selections -- especially that of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, which many presumed would alter the campaign's dynamic -- little has changed in the race for the White House."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin will be Teflon-coated as long as the MSM lets her get away with not answering questions. She has been on the national scene since August 29 - that's 26 days - and she has answered questions from TWO reporters!! TWO!!! Gibson and Hannity! Is the MSM going to do their job and call out the McCain campaign on this? Or are they just going to roll over and let the GOP walk all over them? The debate is next Thursday. Is the media really going to give Palin a free ride until then? Come on!! Show some guts, MSM!!! Ask McCain at EVERY opportunity WHY Palin won't be allowed to hold a press conference NOW! This is really a disgrace. And I'm talking about the media. Show us that you're not intimidated by Steve Schmidt & Co. FORCE THE ISSUE!! YOU CAN DO IT!! DEMAND THAT SARAH SPEAK NOW!!! We have a right to hear her talk in as many unscripted formats as possible between now and November 4. She could easily become President Palin during the next four years if McCain is elected. One debate for 90 minutes will not be sufficient vetting. We the people depend on the MSM. This is serious - it's not a game. Please Chris and others in the press - PRESS this issue! Palin should not be allowed to stay so sequestered.

Posted by: Anne | September 23, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

"His associations with Tony Rezco, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and the organization ACORN have been blips on the mainstream media's radar."
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I can remember wall-to-wall coverage of that bigoted irrelevant junk for an entire month.

For one two-week period Faux News showed the Wright videos in an endless loop, and Hannity, et al. had numerous one hour specials about Wright, Resko, fistbumps, etc. I can recall Wright's "Make it Right" tour, including his now famous appearance before the Press Club, getting full live coverage from two or three cable networks. Hardly Teflon treatment for O.

Palin's Teflon will erode the minute the MSM asks its first series of legitimate questions and stops taking the controversies off the table for discussion on the pretext they are "rumors" or "personal issues."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Ben Smith's take (politico.com) on Bill Clinton's failure to support Obama on the one-hour "View" show:

"I'd missed "The View" yesterday, but watching now, it's striking how one of the world's great's political salesman is acting as an analyst, and not a surrogate, when it comes to this race, and making no real effort to boost Obama. [By Ben Smith 09:40 AM]"

One of the best comments on Ben's post is below:

"I used to like Bill. He has changed since his heart surgery. I do not think he is putting his party or, more importantly, the country first anymore. He and McCain both have that in common now - very sad. If the worst happens and Obama is not elected and there is a 2012 with Hillary running, I certainly won't support her. I'll vote third party for the first time in over thirty years of voting. This whole non-supportive, support of WC is going to backfire terribly on Hillary, if she is in a position to run next time. To the PUMAs out there, this is what your support of McCain over Obama is going to get you. You have guaranteed that Hillary will never see the inside of the White House again. Hope you like the results of your actions.

Posted By: | September 23, 2008 at 10:17 AM"

What a great comment. How insightful was that?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

No way is Sarah Palin teflon, as the above numbers have shown. While she has earned the trust of a majority of Alaskans, she has yet to earn the trust of the rest of America. My feeling that if given the opportunity and time, she would earn that trust and could perhaps become the next great super-hero: "Teflon-Girl"

While Palin has yet to earn her non-stick coating, Obama has gotten his served to him on a silver platter. His associations with Tony Rezco, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and the organization ACORN have been blips on the mainstream media's radar. While most republicans have questioned these shady characters in Obama's background, where is the rest of America in the interrogation? Obama doesn't need a non-stick coating because few are asking the hard questions that would char his campaign. If they asked these questions, his hopes for the presidency would be like burnt toast-trash.

Posted by: Jeff Sorensen | September 23, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin will go down once the MSM decides to stand up and do its job and ask her questions. She has gone one month or so without having answered anything (no, Charlie Gibson's stroll with her doesn't count), a total media moratorium.

She will also sink when the MSM reports on any of the 15 or so controversies surrounding her.

What about her devotion to Pat Buchanan and the late legendary antisemite Westbrook Pegler??? Is the Times' Frank Rich the only one doing his job this election? Rich was the only MSM guy making the Pegler connection. Why are we depending on Charley James of laprogressive.com to tell us the choice names Palin has for AAs and Obama (S-mbos) and Eskimos? Today (see HuffPo) it got very ugly and silly when Palin attempted to kick CNN out of her photo op with foreign officials.

BILL CAMPAIGNS FOR PALIN: On a related matter, it certainly helps Palin that Wm. J. Clinton and the Mrs. are actively campaigning, not for O (never have, never will), but for his opponents.

HuffPo and politico.com (Ben Smith) reported extensively today on WJC's shameful performance yesterday. In no less than three separate public appearances (the View, a photo op for his so-called Global Initiative, and the Letterman show), Bill refused to say even one nice word about Obama. It was a total joke!

In fact, on "the View" (see Ben Smith's article and comments) he gushed endlessly about how "hot" Palin was and how he could understand why everyone liked her. He also decreed how nobody should criticize her. That's campaigning FOR Obama??? Huh??? Later in the day, on Letterman, he again refused to express support Obama, not even once mentioning his name. So ridiculous was Bill's lack of support, later comedian Chris Rock made fun of it in a side-splitting comedy routine, asking, "Did I hear it right? Did Bill Clinton not mention Obama once?"

In an interview the same day (I Think) Ms. Wm. J. Clinton followed suit in an interview. She was asked repeatedly about Palin but wouldn't say anything about her, and of course had nothing good to say about Obama. Tell me, how do you campaign FOR Obama without criticizing the other side and wihout praising him.

Their ridiculous narcissistic anti-Obama performances have been discussed on numerous sites today (see especially Ben Smith (politico.com) and HuffPo, but make sure you read the posted comments, too -- everyone is disgusted) if you have the stomach to read about them.

As Chris Rock said, the Patriots scored more points than everyone, but in the end they lost and then went away -- implying WJC and the Missus need to do the same.

Message to O: Send Bill to "Scores" and give HRC a one on one, all-day "tennis lesson" with Martina Navratilova. Then be done with them. Get them off the campaign trail NOW!!!!! Bill can't say one word about Obama during a one-hour TV talk show and he calls himself campaigning FOR Obama???

Does he think we all are as addle-brained as "that woman, Miss Lewinsky"? Forget about HRC 2012, 2016, and (ugh) 2020. Because we WON'T forget these ugly narcissistic, bigoted antics for MANY, MANY generations. AA and Progressive support for HRC was at 40 at best for HRC. We'll look back on that as the high point of her support. Campaigning FOR Obama indeed. Despite these deranged antics, trending is up for O in general and in many battleground states, including North Carolina unbelievably.

Oy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

"If she is so unliked, how come she outdraws THE ONE by double crowds (60-70K in FL, 20K in Wisconsin). he is now defending his own backyard in Michigan and Wisconsin and it seems he has surrendered PA."

It was 10k in Wisconsin, and even the house organ FOX News only embellished it to 11k. Your 60k for the Orlando appearance is the number from the state GOP - adults with fire and rescue had a more plausible estimate of 25-30k.

But then, the GOP needs all the help it can get with its numbers in Florida, with the race tighter than expected there (RealClear has it a toss-up; I think McCain will probably take it, though NBC has Obama +2 on 9/18.

Things are not as rosy as you paint them for McPalin in MI and WI. Conceding that Obama should be +10 in both, he still has robust leads in both states, and continues to pad the leads as McPalin appears more and more befuddled with each passing day about what to do about economic freefall (pointing fingers is the best they have managed so far).

PA - I'll grant McShame has an argument to the state, but at the end of the day, whether Obama takes it by 10 points or by.001, all the electoral votes are his.

If anyone should be worrying about the backyard, it's McPalin. FL, CO, VA, NM, and IA's already in the bag.

The light at the end of the tunnel for McPalin is the Friday prez debates, with their focus on foreign policy (we are waiting for McPalin to promise aid to Abyssinia, Cathay, and French Indochina).

Posted by: bondjedi | September 23, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

SP is super glue if the Democrats choose to use her behavior so far against her. If hanging George on John is a great Idea (provided we make it stick), then hanging Dick on Sarah is

supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

Sarah, of course, is really cooperative in setting herself up for this. Currently she is doing a great imitation of Dick on a number of fronts, from refusing to answer the Alaska Legislatures subpoenas, and not letting her husband do so either, to refusing to talk to the press on about all occasions, to her general aura of secrecy, deception, and back room dealings.

Now if we can just get a couple of pictures of Sarah hugging Dick to go with those of John hugging George...


supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.!!

Posted by: ceflynline@msn.com | September 23, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The more she is sequestered from the media the more she allows others to "define" her.

This is a mistake.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what info Cillizza is looking at (Karl Roves?) but Palins approval rating is dropping like a rock.


Approve Disapprove No Opinion
9/11: 52 35 13 +17
9/12: 51 37 12 +14
9/13: 49 40 11 +9
9/14: 47 42 11 +5
9/15: 47 43 10 +4
9/16: 45 44 11 +1
9/17: 44 45 11 -1
9/18: 42 46 11 -4


That's a shocking 21-point collapse in a single week. Palin went from being just about the most popular person on the top of the ticket, to the (lipstick wearing?) goat. And it's not just our Research 2000 polling showing this collapse.

In the three days after Palin joined Team McCain--Aug. 29-31--32 percent of voters told the pollsters at Diageo/Hotline that they had a favorable opinion of her; most (48 percent) didn't know enough to say [..] By Sept. 4, however, 43 percent of Diageo/Hotline respondents approved of Palin with only 25 percent disapproving--an 18-point split. Apparently, voters were liking what they were hearing. Four days later, Palin's approval rating had climbed to 47 percent (+17), and by Sept. 13 it had hit 52 percent. The gap at that point between her favorable and unfavorable numbers--22 percent--was larger than either McCain's (+20) or Obama's (+13).

But then a funny thing happened: Palin seems to have lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12)** of any of the Final Four. [UPDATE: The Sept. 17 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll shows Palin at 47 percent favorable and 37 percent unfavorable--an even narrower +10 split.] Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.
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http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx
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This is common knowledge for people who don't worship at the GOP alternative reality alter, Chris.


Posted by: JeffY | September 23, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry. Palin who?

Posted by: Peakmom | September 23, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Pity poor Sarah who must do the Fix's dirty work!

Posted by: Fan of Sarah | September 23, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Why the big fuss over Palin visiting some dignitaties at the UN today?

McCain said she was fully vetted and ready to go with her experience and could easily be a good president.

That's all we need to know. This exercise to day was needless. She has all the foreign affairs she needs so let's worry about more important things.

Like the $700 billion and what we are going to do to fix that huge problem.

Maybe Palin can have lunch with Hank Paulson this week so she can resolve this issue for us. She's a quick lerner.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Will someone ask "Palin-McCain" about THIS...

EXTRA-LEGAL GOV'T "TARGETING" OF AMERICANS:
A ROOT CAUSE OF WALL STREET MONEY MELTDOWN?

Once again, Congress is being asked to rush through emergency legislation -- to cede effective control of the economy to the government.

Officials continue to blame lax lending policies on the part of the mortgage industry for spawning this crisis. But is that entirely true?

And is there a hidden agenda at work? Is a network of extra-judicial programs "targeting" American citizens a root cause of the mortgage meltdown that spawned the broader financial crisis?

Consider this:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/targeting-u-s-citizens-govt-agencies-root-cause-wall-street-financial-crisis OR
members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener | September 23, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

no

it's just everyone turned away.

the only ones going to those gatherings are the right wing nut jobs that think George Bush did a good job.

the question you should be asking is

"is John mcCain teflon?"

She was his choice.

Everyone knows she is completely under equipped and ridiculous as a choice.

but no one blames the moron when they are appointed to a position...

they blame the jerk who put them there.

but Mccain's teflon is getting scratched and you know what happens when you scratch teflon...

you get cancer.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I have got to go study for my exam, I mean debate. It is without teleprompter. that is like an in class test with no books. I have to memorize so much before then. Like who sits on the UN security council, and what is economics. I must find a way to admit the surge worked without admitting the surge worked. My base is so gullible, I will make them think I am really principled with my answer. I will use the same thing if asked about camapign finance, guns, religion, taxes, etc.

I am very principled, sophisticated and thoughtful, I just can't tell you any answers because I need to know how it polls first. For now, you will have to accept: PRESENT

BTW, I have almost as much experience as her, so there!

Posted by: snObama | September 23, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I did not surrender, I redeployed. I intend to do this every time I am confronted in any way. Let them try to hit a moving target.

and if russia or china pulls anything, I'll get the UN security council to fix their wagon. those NY guys always vote with us. I have offered 50 billion per year in bribes to help this along. it worked so well in Iraq before bush got all cowboy on us and ruined everything.

Posted by: snObama | September 23, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

If she is so unliked, how come she outdraws THE ONE by double crowds (60-70K in FL, 20K in Wisconsin). he is now defending his own backyard in Michigan and Wisconsin and it seems he has surrendered PA. Was that a campaign promise I missed - to surrender any state that doesn't immediately comply with extreme leftism?

I bet he wished he had some of that Nd money back now. Maybe he can sell his greek columns on ebay.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 23, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I was heartened to see the corrections of our behind-the-curve traditional media analyst, pointing out that pretty clearly, Palin is NOT Teflon--given her rather abrupt slide in favorability. In about three weeks she's gone from most popular of the four, to least.

The current poll data makes this entire column, well, moot.

Posted by: torridjoe | September 23, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin is definately not teflon. It seemed like it for a few days when the press frenzy was at its worst but people always draw conclusions way too hastily. She has been now in public scrutiny for three weeks and her favourability numbers are quite bad already. She's probably not going to be a major drag on the ticket (she's just a VP-nominee) but not a boost either.
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Posted by: JFactor | September 23, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

do you think the loony Libs, as represented here, will irrationally detest Palin as much as they did Cheney?

I think thay have medication for that now.

Imagine the audacity to make it on your own, with no AA, while actually raising your own family, sticking to your principles and getting the job done. no wonder Libs don't like her. she is contrary to everything they stand for.

In Obama we have so much promise and so little results, over the course of his entire life.

In Palin, we have such grand results and it would seem, little expectations. but that is where you are wrong. We fully expect her to run the Senate in February.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 23, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Caribou Barbie is teflon if reporters like Cillizza, who carry water for the GOP establishment, continue to let her get off with spouting off her Karl Rove approved talking points and not answering any independent questions.


Heck, two bit third world dictators and Dick Cheney give more media access than Palin does.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Los Angeles Times
Witness: Simpson planned nothing illegal in Vegas
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iUNgbOr-2bnpFUX0MiII6je2CkRAD93CJ3RO0

Wonder if it is true that the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of issues and poll numbers?

Apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy, exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

The question is how?

Will the Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time?

Will the GOP use a Guiliani-like mob ties as used by his protege ex-NYPD commissioner who got indicted and may serve up to 140 years of jail time? Or Gotti, Jr. who is in the middle of conspiracy and murder trial now?

Will both parties use the popular practice of "sweetheart exchange deals" where convicts commit crimes/murders in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits not publicly suspected?

Given this information, do we have to worry about our personal safety too? For example, will we be safe while asleep in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home as our habits and plans are known in advance due to bugging devices all over?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Los Angeles Times
Witness: Simpson planned nothing illegal in Vegas
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iUNgbOr-2bnpFUX0MiII6je2CkRAD93CJ3RO0

Wonder if it is true that the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of issues and poll numbers?

Apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy, exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

The question is how?

Will the Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time?

Will the GOP use a Guiliani-like mob ties as used by his protege ex-NYPD commissioner who got indicted and may serve up to 140 years of jail time? Or Gotti, Jr. who is in the middle of conspiracy and murder trial now?

Will both parties use the popular practice of "sweetheart exchange deals" where convicts commit crimes/murders in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits not publicly suspected?

Given this information, do we have to worry about our personal safety too? For example, will we be safe while asleep in the middle of the night in the privacy of our home as our habits and plans are known in advance due to bugging devices all over?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I think in the space of about the last 24 hours, Joe Biden claimed that the AIG bailout was bad, but then said it wasn't bad;

that we did not need to burn coal;

that his apology about the dirty McCain ad was, as they say, inoperative;

that FDR once went on television to address the nation after the stock market crash of '29 (that's a twofer that trumps Obama's Americans liberating Auschwitz);

and all but said that McCain took a $50,000 bribe.

Not a bad day's work — encompassing terrible energy policy, flip-flopping, historical ignorance, and slander. And this comes on top of Palin the "good looking" "Lt. Governor" of Alaska, Hillary as the better VP pick than himself, the patriotism of paying higher taxes, and so on.

And those in turn come on top of the primary remarks about Indians in donut shops, and "bright and clean" blacks. And those in turn come on top of . . . (Well, go back to the pilfered speeches and made-up bios.)

Something is very wrong here. While most forgive the silly slip like "Barack America" or asking the wheel-chair bound to stand up, I think the Obama staff must have gone from amusement to embarrassment and now to serious concern whether Biden is up to the job.

Had this been Palin, the election would now be over.


The Biden Standard [Jonah Goldberg]


Victor - I predicted this from the moment Palin was picked. As I wrote a couple weeks ago:

And let’s not forget Biden, whose gaffes are the unavoidable byproduct of his limitless gasbaggery. Biden could shout on Meet the Press, “Get these squirrels off of me!” and the collective response would be, “There goes Joe again.” But if Palin flubs the name of the deputy agriculture minister of Kyrgyzstan, the media will blow their whistles saying she’s unprepared for the job.

Posted by: vdh | September 23, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

From Newsweek, your partner:

Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12)** of any of the Final Four. [UPDATE: The Sept. 17 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll shows Palin at 47 percent favorable and 37 percent unfavorable--an even narrower +10 split.] Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.

CBS:

...the poll suggests that the McCain campaign may have cause for concern. More than half of registered voters do not think Palin is prepared for the job of Vice President, and even McCain supporters cite "inexperience" as what they like least about her.

Just 17 percent of registered voters say McCain chose Palin because she is well qualified for the job of Vice President. Seventy-five percent say McCain made the choice to help win the election. (Even voters backing the Republican ticket share this view: 53 percent say the Palin choice was to help McCain win in November.)


Even the American Spectator:

What a difference a week can make. Seven days ago, Democrats were in a state of political panic after Sarah Palin's selection as running mate had helped push John McCain ahead in the polls. Now it may be the Republicans' turn...turning Palin from an asset to a debit for the GOP ticket.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 23, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I really love to hear how lefties think. They actually buy their own lies.

Posted by: A Stoner | September 23, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

she could have her entire brain removed and she would still be more than a match for that ninkompoop Biden. I'm not sure he even knows what day it is. his gaffes are not by the day now, they are by the hour. Obama is going to regret not picking the crook.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 23, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Chris: have you seen ANY of the polls out today on Palin? PPP, Q, etc all show her favs dropped 10-20% just in the last week...
The stories dont stick because NOBODY REPORTS THEM (MSM).
Teflon my ass. She's gonna be glue as soon as she flubs someting that's not scripted.Do your job and expose her.

Posted by: Sen. Widestance | September 23, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

What polls are you looking at? Most (scratch that, all) polls I've seen show Palin with a HUGE decline in approve/disapprove spread since immediately after the convention. Please cite which polls you are seeing which buck every other trend I've seen.

Posted by: Joseph | September 23, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse


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Sarah Palin is Titanium and Teflon.


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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 23, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Teflon? No. She's a BIMBO! She's a self sbsorbed, self centered, not too bright, bimbo. Worse, for the price of the one clodhopper, you get two - Todd, the twin Barbie doll. How on earth did someone with the dignity of McCain stoop so low as to pick this sort of trailer court trash?

Posted by: Observer | September 23, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

She is good to go so long as she can only open her mouth to give prepared sound bites, America is a sucker for a pretty face. (Which is why the country is in so G.D. much trouble)

Posted by: nclwtk | September 23, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin Woefully Underqualified

Published: Saturday, September 20, 2008 at 12:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, September 19, 2008 at 5:40 p.m.
You know the difference between Sarah Palin and George W. Bush? Lipstick.
She made it clear in her interview with ABC's Charles Gibson last week that like Governor Bush in 2000, Governor Palin is not ready to be President of the United States. Also like Bush, she is brimming with self-confidence.
When Gibson asked her if she could look America in the eye and tell us that she has the ability to be President of the United States, she unhesitatingly said, "Yes." It would have been much more reassuring if she had said something that showed us she had thought deeply about the implication of standing a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Her self-confidence, like that of Gov. Bush before her, is not based on an interest in or understanding of national and international issues. Instead her response reveals a ferocious ambition unhindered by careful reflection.
Of course anyone who runs for president or vice president has to be mighty ambitious. But to be a national leader it isn't enough to be brimming with decisive certainty. What is needed is decisiveness based on complex understandings of the difficulties we face both internationally and domestically.
The low point of Governor Palin's ABC interview came when she admitted that she didn't know what the Bush Doctrine is. This is not a promising sign. It's as though a sports writer, while interviewing for a job at a major newspaper, confessed that she didn't know who Michael Phelps is.
The Bush Doctrine has dominated American foreign policy since 2001 and was the blueprint for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. How could any political leader with an interest in America's standing in the world not know this?
Gov. Palin's approach to our economic problems is equally troubling. When pressed to offer the three most important things needed to improve the economy she listed reduced taxes, controlled spending, reform of oversight of government spending.
These answers aren't wrong; they're just so shallow as to be meaningless.
Governor Palin could have demonstrated a little sophistication about our economic troubles had she at least mentioned that when our government is running a massive deficit, as it now is, every "tax cut" is really a "tax delayed" that will eventually have to be paid by our children and grandchildren. The Bush tax cuts didn't really save us money. They just let us borrow money that our descendants will have to repay.
In my opinion every voter who supports a tax-cutting politician in this day and age (and both McCain and Obama are advocating tax cuts) should turn to his or her children and say, "We just voted to saddle you with another trillion or so of debt, kids. You don't mind, do you?"
Gov. Palin's cluelessness on the economy stands in stark contrast to the economic sophistication shown by Bill Clinton. Through careful, complex planning and by dint of tireless political effort, President Clinton managed to produce a budget surplus in his first term, one from which we all benefited. Of course, the Bush administration with its wars and tax cuts obliterated that surplus and racked up a multi-trillion dollar debt burden.
The problem with Gov. Palin's lack of qualifications speaks directly to Sen. McCain's priorities in this election. Clearly he could have chosen a better, more thoughtful and more knowledgeable running mate. But perhaps he could not have picked one whose persona would have been quite so helpful in energizing his presidential campaign. This apparently was Sen. McCain's top priority.
To quote fellow Republican, Michael Murphy (who was caught speaking unawares before a live microphone) the choice of Sarah Palin was "cynical." It certainly doesn't give the impression that McCain is putting "Country First" in his campaign. And it makes me wonder why he spent the entire summer telling us that Sen. Barack Obama was seriously flawed because he lacked experience. Is this what passes for "straight talk" with Sen. McCain these days?
John McCain is a man whose courage as a POW I have always admired. And of course, I still can't help but admire him for his past military service. But his choice of Gov. Palin complicates my feelings about this old war horse. Coming on top of the lowball political ads he's been employing lately, I'm forced to do something I never thought I would have to do: I never thought I would have to use the word "disappointing" to describe a man who for years I counted as one of my heroes.
[ Robert L. Moore, a native of Lakeland, is a professor of anthropology at Rollins College in Winter Park and director of international affairs for the college's Hamilton Holt School. ]

Posted by: Bill Odum | September 23, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

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