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Axelrod To Bush Advisers: Butt Out

David Axelrod, a senior adviser to President Barack Obama, had harsh words for some of former President Bush's closest advisers during an interview with the Post's Lois Romano yesterday, dismissing as "intramural stuff" the critiques offered by the former Administration.

Axelrod praised Bush for his handling of the transition while sharply criticizing some of the former president's advisers.

Axelrod said he was "disappointed" by former Vice President Dick Cheney's comments regarding the planned closure of the Guantanamo Bay prison and the suggestion that it would increase the likelihood of a terrorist attack; he described himself as "surprised" by former White House chief of staff Andy Card's remark that not wearing a jacket in the Oval Office was disrespectful. (Make sure to read the Post's Dan Eggen's terrific piece on the variety of criticism from former Bush aides toward the Obama White House.)

But, Axelrod saved his strongest condemnation for the man who held his job in the Bush White House: Karl Rove. Of Rove's criticism of Obama's economic stimulus plan, Axelrod said: "The last thing that I think we are looking for at this juncture is advice on fiscal integrity or ethics from Karl Rove -- anyone who's read the newspapers for the last eight years would laugh at that."

Rove did not return an email seeking comment. But, he did pen an op-ed today in the Wall Street Journal in which he starkly criticized the way Obama has gone about addressing the financial crisis and heaped praise on congressional Republicans for how they have handled the matter.

"Mr. Obama, for all his talents, has already re-energized the GOP and sparked a spending debate that will last for years," wrote Rove. "The president won this legislative battle, but at a high price -- fiscally and politically."

White House officials have generally been loathe to criticize the Bush administration directly -- believing that the American people want to move forward, not look backward.

But, Axelrod's comments show the disdain that he clearly holds for some within Bush's inner circle.

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 12, 2009; 7:50 PM ET
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Ahhhhhhhh the great day will come when ALL the Republicans will be replaced by another political party, in our two part system party. AND hopefully they will become the insignificant party!! We need One that will be willing to work in a bipartisan manner to serve ALL the people of out nation AND one that will not have the religious right standing behind them.
So who will it be Democrats and who???

Posted by: DominickJ2 | February 18, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Did you also forget that when Bush came into power, Clinton left him the dot.com bubble that burst? then 9-11 hit and if I remember correctly, Bush did a pretty good job of getting us out of that.

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Wait..Bush did a pretty good job of getting us out of that? Out of what? We still have not caught/killed Bin Laden. We are now in 2 wars, one of which had nothing to do with 9/11, and has caused the death of over 1 million people, mostly innocent. Yeah. Good Job Bush.

Posted by: biggirl90 | February 16, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Axelrod is a Bolshevik and they are far worse than even the evil Nazis. I'm sure Axelrod would have been Trotsky's right hand man. Instead the good Bolshevik that he is will just have to be Obama's right hand man. He is a truly evil man.

Posted by: elreyjones | February 14, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Bush, Cheney, Rove and Gonzales should be sent to Gitmo and subjected to the same torture tatics that they approved to get them to tell the truth.

Posted by: Nevadaandy | February 14, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

The only words needed from Rove, Card, Cheney, Bush and Co. are the words we want to hear while they are on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Other than that they are irrelevant and should STFU.

Posted by: ernieson | February 14, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

hey chasgiffen - one last thing...isn't there also a congressional oversight committee in the House and Senate for this stuff - or do you willfully forget that the ranking Democrats in those committees also killed changes that would have slowed down or stopped this recession now?

Did you also forget that when Bush came into power, Clinton left him the dot.com bubble that burst? then 9-11 hit and if I remember correctly, Bush did a pretty good job of getting us out of that.

Besides, if Bush's policies didn't work, then you must also know that the messiah's spending bill will not work considering that he is keeping the Bush Tax Cuts and about 40% of the bill is tax cuts...

Posted by: redred221 | February 14, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

to chasgiffen:

Wow, did you actually think this up yourself or do you consult THE ONE and his minions to check what you were supposed to write.

Please do get President Bush and his cabinet up on a stand so we can stop listening to all this liberal whining - we all could use another great Democrat butt-whooping like Ollie North gave when they called him on the stand. Besides, I would love to get to the meat and bones of the issue that got us to where we are today... the whole "Bush Lied" claptrap is so middle school politics it's laughable.

As for the whole thing about 9-11 - has anyone posted on this that brings it up lost anyone on that day? I did - I lost a good friend in Tower 2 in NYC. I wish I could live in a world like we did on 9-10, at least I would have my friend back and his 2 boys would still have a father instead of some pictures and movies of him. I'm sure the friends and families of the 3,000 other people that were brutally murdered that day would like to have that mulligan.

Posted by: redred221 | February 14, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

To "brudil18", one of the dimmest bulbs ever to peck away at a keyboard (maybe it’s his/her cat, running across it), see CAPS inside your drivel below:

******* Where to start with this one. So let me get this straight it took Bush and the Republicans 4 years to cost the US taxpayer $1trillion [AGAIN, TWIT (CAN I CALL YOU TWIT? OK THANKS), FOR EMPHASIS... $1T SPENT ON A WAR WHERE THERE WAS ZERO SECURITY THREAT OR VALUE TO THE U.S. (AND WHERE BUSH/CHENEY COMMITTED HIGH TREASON – OUTING AN ACTIVE, UNDERCOVER CIA AGENT - TO PUNISH SOMEONE THAT DISAGREED – HER HUSBAND)] and now its taken Obama and the Democrats 3 weeks to cost the US taxpayer another $1.4 trillion [OKAY THIS IS PRECIOUS (AND THIS IS WHERE I’D START CALLING YOU “MORON”… BUT THAT WOULD OF COURSE BE AN INSULT TO MORONS) - JUST HOW EXACTLY DID OBAMA CAUSE THIS ECONOMIC MELTDOWN - WHICH OFFICIALLY HIT THE FAN IN SEPTEMBER (NOTE: PRE-OBAMA) BUT STARTED BREWING YEARS AGO (NOTE: PRE-OBAMA) DUE TO LACK OF BASIC EXECUTIVE BRANCH REGULATION AND OVERSIGHT (FYI THE EXEC BRANCH IS TASKED WITH ENFORCING THE NATION’S LAWS & REGS) – WHICH THIS $1.4T (OR WHATEVER THE # IS)(AND BY THE WAY, THESE INFUSIONS ARE RECOMMENDED BY THE VAST MAJORITY OF ECONOMISTS, BOTH REPUB & DEM) IS GOING TOWARDS TO TRY TO HELP TURN AROUND? NO NO NO… I KNOW IT'S BLOODY COMPLICATED FOR YOU AND YOUR HEAD MUST BE HURTIN’ AWFUL BAD, BUT TRY TO KEEP THOSE 3 NEURONS IN YOUR BRAIN FIRING... THIS MELTDOWN HAPPENED ON BUSH’S WATCH, BECAUSE OF HIS COMPLETE LACK OF COMPETENCE & ETHICS.]. Please explain your argument here. [THIS DIDN’T NEED EXPLAINING. WELL EXCEPT FOR YOU AND THE RED STATES.]

The estimates are at about a million Iraqi have died since the start of the war in 2003. The people that didn't want to fight for Saddam just waved a white flag and didn't fight [RUH ROH I THINK YOU’RE DOWN TO 1 NEURON NOW… YOU’RE REDEFINING “NAÏVE” HERE… LET’S SEE NOW, WERE THEY WAVING WHITE FLAGS TO THE U.S. BOMBERS FLYING AT 10,000 FEET, OR THE U.S. DESTROYERS OFF THE COAST LAUNCHING CRUISE MISSILES, OR TO THE U.S. HELOS & TANKS FIRING MISSILES FROM MILES AWAY? HEY WAIT A MINUTE, ARE YOU REALLY SARAH PALIN??]. Of these million Iraqi, most have died at the hands of other Iraqi not US soldiers [OK THAT SHOULD MAKE THE 100,000 WE KILLED FEEL BETTER, GOOD POINT]. Again, get yourself educated [GET YOURSELF EDUCATED? DID YOU JUST SAY THAT? SHOULDN’T THAT BE “GIT”?], you sound really, really pathetic with your rant. *********

LOOK YOU’RE CLEARLY OUT OF YOUR DEPTH HERE, BUCKWHEAT, JUST AS W WAS, SO GO GIT ON BACK TO TEXAS AND IMPREGERNATIN YOUR COUSIN. HAW!

Posted by: chasgiffen | February 13, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

To "keepitreal50":

FYI, I think you intended to address your post to "brudil18"...

Posted by: chasgiffen | February 13, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Poor David Axeldork -- probably a little paycheck envy...he's in no position to have an outbreak of thin skin!!

D-Axel --- get used to it..buck it up twerp!

Posted by: newbeeboy | February 13, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

lawhamptons WROTE: "I understand the political rationale for not wanting investigations and trials and convictions, but the political rationale has to take a back seat to the rule of law."

I couldn't agree more. Critical thorough investigation followed by criminal prosecution where warranted by evidence is more than a moral responsibility; it is a political necessity.

If my perceptions are correct: America was run by a criminal cabal for most of eight years; men and women in authority treated our constitution as if it was an insignificant impediment to their wishes; political power was used to abuse political adversaries; the electoral process was compromised and massive fraud and corruption were either overlooked or enabled. That is not to mention rendition, torture and probable murder. If my perceptions, along with those of a great many Americans plus much of the world, are incorrect, The Bush administration deserves to be cleared of the cloud of suspicion that their secrecy and poor judgment has inspired. If they are guilty of the crimes of which they are widely suspected, many of them belong in prison.

In either event, this is not gossip. This is our democracy and all Americans have the right to know and the duty to find out. If crimes were committed, appropriate punishment must follow swift conviction.

PS. If America, under President Obama, lacks the backbone to undertake this investigation, we will face the national shame of becoming a failed-state in the eyes of the world. There are judges in den Haag who specialize in the prosecution of that protected-class of criminals, who are above the reach of the law in broken countries. If we abdicate our responsibilities, we invoke theirs. That's International Law, which only applies because we signed a whole stack of treaties.

Posted by: JoeyTranchina | February 13, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Karl Rove drives an expensive foreign luxury car. Guess that tells you how much he really cares about stimulating the U.S. economy and putting Americans back to work. Hope fat man gets a flat tire driving through Detroit.

Posted by: FellowTraveler | February 13, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to GW Bush? We haven't heard a peep or read a news story. Did he leave the country to escape a war crimes trial, or is he afraid to come out of his house?

Posted by: jessie1 | February 13, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

President OBama disappoints by trying to discourage an investigation (or investigations) of the alleged crimes committed by high members of the Bush administration. By "looking forward" he is forgetting about his oath to uphold the constitution and the law. That oath doesn't have "looking forward" in it. I understand the political rationale for not wanting investigations and trials and convictions, but the political rationale has to take a back seat to the rule of law.

Posted by: lawhamptons | February 13, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Everything that comes out of Rove's mouth is about political power: "Mr. Obama, for all his talents, has already re-energized the GOP and sparked a spending debate that will last for years." Does he have an inkling of what the stimulus bill is all about? Does he comprehend that hundreds of thousands of Americans are on the verge of not being able to afford food? Considering how fat he is, I guess that's something he just doesn't identify with.

Posted by: ncahill1 | February 13, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

peter777 WROTE:
"GOP is devoid of ideas"
And what were those Lib Dem ideas again?
Oh wait, tax and spend and spend. Brilliant.

Excuse me, and what were the Republican ideas? Lower taxes; don't cut spending; lie to the American people and the world about WMD in Iraq; start expensive & unnecessary war; fund this war with debt; cut taxes; bury the nation in debt; don't watch the store while self-entitled aristos steal everything that isn't nailed down; develop delusional derivatives then bankrupt financial institutions around the world with bad paper; lower taxes; betray every conservative principle of individual liberty and fiscal responsibility; shred the constitutional protections for American citizens under the pretext of terrorism, without in-fact making us safer; earn the enmity of much of the world; lower taxes; then leave us buried in debt and devastation. Oh and did I say lower taxes? Stupendous ideas on the Republican side...

Posted by: JoeyTranchina | February 13, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

John Conyers put the screws to Neocon-Fascist traitor, Karl Rove.

He has been subpoenaed to appear February 23, otherwise he gets thrown in the Dodo bird cage, where he belongs.

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/BobLuskin.pdf

Posted by: kevinschmidt | February 13, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Piggy Rove will be in prison soon, Don Siegelman, former Gov of Alabama, Rove had him locked up for nada.
Rove, if you think there is no karma, guess again. You and the Bush crime family are goners, just give it a little more time.
Oh and I've seen plenty of pic's of Bush with no jacket on in the oval office, so there ya go, ANOTHER LIE!
LYING LIARS AND THE LIARS TELLIN THE LIES. Sometimes they can't tell the difference.
They ruined this country, Obama did NOT create this problem, YOU DID YOU FAT FREAK!
Anyone tried to arrest you yet today?

Posted by: Cookie100 | February 13, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Of course Americans want to move forward. But Mr. Axelrod, we want our Constitution to be upheld. We want those who break the law to be investigated and prosecuted. We want these bastards who have abrogated their oath and taken our country down to be held accountable for their actions. Otherwise, you might as well rip up our Constitution because it would then have no meaning.
If people can just pick and choose what laws/rules they want to follow, or cross out what they don't like (Bush's signing statements), then what's the point? When laws are optional, no matter how much you protest, we're no better than the totalitarian regimes out there that we used to rail against. Your administration is in serious jeopardy of becoming one with no moral integrity. And I'm a Democrat who voted for you guys.

Posted by: shannadarx | February 13, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I understand the Obama Administrations reluctance to investigate, much less prosecute, the crimes of the Bush White House...but it would be a grievous mistake for THIS White House, like the last one, to abdicate its responsibility to faithfully execute the laws of this country. And that REQUIRES holding to account those who have violated those laws, particularly and especially when the lawbreakers were high-ranking officials of the government.

Bush's Iraq war was initiated on a false pretext, in violation of international law and the trust of the American people and Congress (whose approval was obtained by fraud). Bush and Cheney claimed afterward to have been "fooled" by bad intelligence which is the BEST face one could possibly put on the fiasco, but an inadequate excuse, since Bush and Cheney supressed and concealed contradictory evidence that WAS before them. The excuse is also
insufficient because Bush and Cheney asserted, not opinion based on the weight of evidence, but affirmative KNOWLEDGE (allegedly based on "evidence" that could not be shared with the public...and which we now know didn't exist).

The heart of all of the Bush-Cheney crimes was an inherent contempt for the law, the belief that they, in their power, were above any such law. And if Bush-Cheney officials are not punished for their crimes, that attitude on their part will be vindicated by fact: Bush and Cheney ARE above the law, if the agents of the law (because of ambition or fear) neglect the duty to enforce the law against them.

Posted by: Observer44 | February 13, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Karl Rove?

Isn't he in jail yet?

Posted by: AHermit | February 13, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"Mr. Obama, for all his talents, has already re-energized the GOP and sparked a spending debate that will last for years," wrote Rove. "The president won this legislative battle, but at a high price -- fiscally and politically."

Yes, Mr. Obama got the Republican Dodos all riled up! The feathers are a flying and the squawkers are a squawking!

Extinction is right around the corner.

Posted by: kevinschmidt | February 13, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Chasgiffen: (SPEAKING OF BUSH AND HIS CRONIES and YOUR OPINION OF WHAT SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE DONE) - OK, so you illegally invaded my country, killed my neighbors, women and children, lied to my family and all of our citizens (knowingly), sent them to war to die and kill countless innocent people, imprisoned and tortured many other innocent people, illegally wiretapped everybody's phones, committed a great number of serious crimes making you the KING of CRIMINALS and SENT many American fighters to die in a fight YOU should have never waged and that's just the tip of the iceberg. So what you are saying is that I am spewing hatred because I believe and know that you should be jailed. You would be an idiot to suggest such a thing and you are an idiot. This country is in fatal financial ruin so how much money do you think it will take in a short period of time to start to reverse this catastrophe. Maybe Obama should have spent $1 dollar so that your family can suffer, starve and become homeless. You Bush lovers have a mental problem and rightly so, look who you dummies twice voted for. You can have your fun now running your mouths but your neighbors and history will undoubtedly rip you a new one and there will be plenty of salt available for you to bathe in, you profoundly stupid, dumb idiot and anybody else who would like to support your tired a..! And that's my opinion, you idiot. And yeah I am calling you names, IDIOT!

Posted by: keepitreal50 | February 13, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Obama not wanting to look backward; this is one of the things in which I disagree with the Obama administration. Somewhere I read or heard this quote which I am paraphrasing; "those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." The American people need to know the extent of the Bush administration's illegal and unAmerican activities.

Posted by: nwsjnky1 | February 13, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

PERSONAL TO: D. AXELROD / STAFF (please forward


RE: BUSH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT APPROVAL OF RADIATION WEAPONS TORTURE ON U.S. CITIZENS DEEMED "UNDESIRABLES" BY ONGOING 'EXTRAJUDICIAL PUNISHMENT NETWORK'

... coordinated multi-agency action "programs of personal destruction" manned by security/intel/revenue agents, local police nationwide, citizen vigilantes fronted by government-funded community policing and anti-terrorism programs.

IT IS DAY 25 OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

DO YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOUR "MULTI-AGENCY ACTION CENTER" IS UP TO?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-targets-terrorizes-u-s-citizens

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR (IF LINKS ARE CORRUPTED/DISABLED):

http://My.NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 13, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

It is said that mankind suffers most not from disease and pestilence but from his own self-made delusions. The Republicans are recreating an unnecessary schism in one of the worst epochs in American history that was much contributed to by delusion, greed, myopia and compound human meanness of the Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfield malady. It is a tragic commentary on the Republican clique/attempted junta here in America: ego ahead of humanity, a two year old tantrum being manifested by the Republican party which makes the rest of us believe that this party has not even reached puberty and a realization that the very concept of democracy mandates adult behavior. Many of us look to the Obama administration for relief from the puerile if not aggressively anti-American behavior being manifested by the present republican mindset. I hope those senators and congressman who are fearful of reprise by their own party find courage to work for the good of America. If not, then perhaps we will see the Republican party as an outdated relic best exhibited in a forgotten room in some museum.

Posted by: timeforhonesty | February 13, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Your comments are truly enlightening. chasgiffen, thank you for being the moron that you are. Your critique and language are both in the gutter and it is no suprise that the uneducated still can't let go of their Bush hatred. See my comments in your message below.
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Now let's see, Bush et al (a.k.a. the Texas Dirt F*ckers) defended his entire presidency by saying "look, there were no more terrorist attacks", right?

A. OK so you put locks on the cockpit doors of all airliners... so guys with box-cutters couldn't get in - quite accomplishment over 7 years.

****** Having many friends who work for government agencies and others directly related to national security, your assessment of "putting locks on cockpit doors in 7 years" shows just how inept your grasp of anything of intelligence really is. You are a great representative of the Democrat party. (Notice no foul language) *******

B. Oh, and by the way, you're the President of the United States... can't you get anything else done at the same time? Shouldn't you be, eh, one of the better multi-taskers on the planet? Well, I mean aside from attacking a country for no reason (costing the US taxpayers $1Trillion+ ... and killing 10's of thousands of young Iraqi men that didn't want to fight for Saddam but had to).

******* Where to start with this one. So let me get this straight it took Bush and the Republicans 4 years to cost the US taxpayer $1trillion and now its taken Obama and the Democrats 3 weeks to cost the US taxpayer another $1.4 trillion. Please explain your argument here.

The estimates are at about a million Iraqi have died since the start of the war in 2003. The people that didn't want to fight for Saddam just waved a white flag and didn't fight. Of these million Iraqi, most have died at the hands of other Iraqi not US soldiers. Again, get yourself educated, you sound really, really pathetic with your rant. *********

Posted by: chasgiffen | February 13, 2009 2:58 AM | Report abuse

******** Its a real shame when people like you can't see beyond an ideolgy whether its left or right (yours is obviously left). You don't educate yourself and just listen to whatever your side is saying. Note my comment above about our current mess. Bush gave us $1trillion in debt and now Obama in the blink of eye has added $1.4 trillion to it and idiots like you are now saying how great it is. WHAT???? You truly need to be medicated until they figure out whats wrong in your head. Trillions, notice the "s" on the end of that, is not good for any of us in America, left or right. This country isn't in this mess because of the Republicans or the Democrats. Silly little simple minded one, can't you see they are all part of the same party... they both in the end continue to kick the American people in the teeth. Uneducated, non-rational, logic depleted thought processes you have continue to elect these people into office.

Posted by: brudil18 | February 13, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

My goodness - hate is alive and well...so the majority of comment providers think that the Republicans are evil? Did you reread your postings before submitting? So much Hate spewing from people that are what...? Instead of looking backward and wanting to "blame" - how about praying for the new President and hopefully the bunch of hypocritcal people WE elected to Congress? How about accepting responsibility for any part you may have played in this economic disaster? It is my belief that we "all" need to be paying really close attention to what is happening everywhere and direct our energies to a more positive approach. Will the $13 a week TAX BREAK we are receiving in the stimulus save our homes? Feed our children? Will your bank be able to stay this crisis? Where's the $50 Billion that CITICORP all ready received? etc., etc., etc. There are far more important issues facing all Americans today than what Axlerod had to say about Bush and his administration. I for one (Republican by the way) am sick of listening to the hateful remarks. I don't have time to spend wasting on what should have, could have, and not only thinking backward --- but, running headon into a backward, misguided issues that does nothing to support or improve the current situations in America. How about we all get off this "Hate Train" and start trying to think of positive steps we can take to assist in our own small way the current situation. Thanks to the Washington Post for allowing the frustrations we are all feeling to be posted for review.

Posted by: Juders1 | February 13, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

dbeins wrote, "Remember, when you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty, ..."

While agreeing with the writers call for civility, I sincerely beg to differ with metaphorically equating those referred to as "angry right" with pigs.

Despite their disregard for outward appearance, pigs are noble, intelligent creatures, quite tasty from snout to pigtail and undeserving of such disrespect.

Rank-and-file right-wingers, on the other hand, fail to measure up; gloating when they prevail, explosively angry when they don't and apparently lacking the intelligence to see through the deceptions by which their ideological leaders manipulate them into supporting catastrophic policies and agendas such as those the country has had to suffer the last eight years.

In short: more civility and more respect for pigs.

Posted by: Lorberrys | February 13, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

We have a dreadful financial situation brought about by greed, lack of regulation and a philosophy of short term gain at the expense of long term strategic planning.
The previous 8 years have been a disaster not only for Americans but for most people across the planet.
It is so easy for those in opposition to "slag off" those in government. They can attack and object to everything placed before them for agreement in the hope that plans go wrong in which case they can say "We told you so"
The posturing and downright stalling is costing the country millions of dollars, but do they care? Apparently not.
Rove & Cheney are the most dispicable people I can think of and goodness knows there are a few of those out there.
Can't we make them just SHUT UP AND GO AWAY.

Posted by: gillyrhingold | February 13, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

if only these comments were as insignificant as "intramurals!"

while Rome burns the home team which just lost is still throwing bricks as if it were campaign time. Sure, some of it is revisionism and legacy justification but at the heart of Cheney's, Card's and Gonzales' comments are a not so subtle campaign to undermine the public trust in the new Administration. Why? Just maybe to be absolutely certain it can't begin to solve all the problems left behind. Hey, 2012 is right around the corner and we can thaw out Sarah and her crack team of campaign advisors for another shot at power!

Last time I looked Dick (Darth) Cheney was telling us any disagreement with the Bush Administration was tantamount to treason and that he and his cohorts new what was best for us so we should sit back and let the adults run the show.

Only problem was the adults were idiots and we now are mired in two wars (one would have been enough, thank you), our economy is in shambles and the public's confidence in government is at an all time low. Heckuva Job, Dickie!

I am a lifelong Republican who has played a bit of football. The good ol misdirection play works if you take your eye off the ball. Let us hope neither we nor our new President falls for this trickery.

Posted by: bobfbell | February 13, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

The Bush administration left office with nearly 80% of Americans believing they did a lousy job of running the government.

The disconnect between acknowledging their abysmally low appoval ratings and their need to continually critique the current (and very new) administration to the American public is mind-boggling.

Posted by: VAreader | February 13, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Feinberg's comments (below.)

The extremist right wing of the republican party took over years ago and has been counter-productive for the good of the US. Believe me, this is not the republican party your grand dad voted for.

I knew we were in trouble when Bush took over in 2001 and the propaganda wing of extremist republicans immediately began making claims that Clinton had stolen from the White House and his people had trashed the place. After serious investigation, the claims were found to be fabricated and admitted to by Bush himself. That episode alone told me of the character of this extremist republican party.

Posted by: jessie1 | February 13, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

ROFL

Theyre now beginning to blame future terrorist attacks on something a previous administration official said.....

This is sad really... will they take any responsibility while in office? Doesnt seem like it so far...

Posted by: indep2 | February 13, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

This is all a bunch of BS. Everyone knows that bush was an idiot at best, and a criminal at worst. I say we prosecute the lot of them.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | February 13, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Karl Rove testifies that Republicans are most effective when out of the White House. America will be served best if they are kept in opposition. In the mean time we witness a widening gap between Obama rhetoric and Obama philosophy. President needs to take a day off and meditate how to address the digression in his ideology and send his advisors on leave.

Posted by: acpress | February 13, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

it would be best if the current white house staff stopped engaging in tit for tat "intramural stuff".

they campaigned form the position of staying above the fray.

Govern above the fray!

Posted by: jrzshor | February 13, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

After committing economic arson for eight years, Rove and congressional republicans have decided to blame the firefighters for getting the house wet.

Posted by: boxorox2 | February 13, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Rove's comments seem at first to be vague, but in fact are meaningless.

It's amazing he still gets attention in the press.

Posted by: usaf-vet | February 13, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

What Rove and the Republicans have decided to do is attack President Obama and the Democrats. Their fiscal ideas have not been in the best interest of the majority of Americans but rather the wealthy. The middle and lower class have suffered for the last 8 years under Bush and the right wing conservative agenda. More tax cuts for those who will just put it in a savings account is not the answer.

What they are doing is planting doubts in the first weeks of the Obama presidency to position themselves as, we told you so and a vote for us mentality in 2010. It is not in their advantage to be bipartisan at a time we should be working together more so then ever. They play win at any cost even if we burn down the playing field.

Their way did not work; unilateral wars and the voodoo economics of tax cuts to the wealthy, especially during a war are a disaster. Be bipartisan, but blast them for the manure they have been shoveling and go after them where they have broken the law.

Obama has opened the door to them, unlike the Republicans when they were in power. When they unclench their hand I am sure he will have his open, until then I suggest he throw some body blows so they understand bipartisanship is a two way street and must be earned.

Posted by: BFeinberg | February 13, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

isn't karl rove supposed to be in jail, and isn't his claim to fame, the politics of deception and lies that allowed bush to force his way intot he white house, lie to the American People, and put our nation in a tail spin.
cheney,,oh my god isn't he supposed to be under investigation for violations of the constitution, and war crimes,
why does the news continue to give value to these criminals and their commentary

Posted by: mjtaylor22 | February 13, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Rove uses the bully pulpit of the Wall St. Journal. I guess he needs an outlet somewhere to relieve his sewer gas.

Over the years, I've noticed that many who read the WSJ are very much out of touch with mainstream America ... ah yes, a perfect platform for Rove to preach to the choir in high C.

Posted by: jessie1 | February 13, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Political advice from Rove? Are you sure that was in the WSJ and not The Onion? What's next,investing advice from Madoff, marriage advice from Elizabeth Taylor and how to live the straight life from Ted Haggard.

Posted by: JackChit1 | February 13, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Excuse me “Axelrod’s disdain”. It was the Bush Admin's people complaining and lying that he responded to. Remember Card's assertion that the Oval Office be treated with respect – yet we have pictures of Bush without a jacket - here's the link. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/05/bush-jacketless-in-oval-o_n_164513.html.

Anyone who thinks we should listen to Cheney, Rove, Card, et. al. obviously is a fool-we wouldn’t be in this mess without them and their boss.

Axelrod should not only have disdain but utter contempt as I'm sure the American people do.

Posted by: rlj1 | February 13, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I like that 'intermural fluff'

Something needs to energize the GOP---limpbow of full diapers is no longer doing it!

Wishfull thinking and propaganda from the repubs...nothing is happening....No one believes them anymore! PETTY < IRELEVANT AND SCREECHING!!!!!

Posted by: jetlone | February 13, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

MR BUSH #1 WAS FIRED AFTER 1 TERM THEN THEY NAMED A $6 BILLION SHIP AFTER HIM.
MR BUSH #2 SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED.
FOLKS MR BUSH #3 (JEB) IS GETTING READY, LETS MAKE SURE WE FIRE HIM BEFORE HE SCREWS UP THIS COUNTRY TOO.

Posted by: REDSOX08 | February 13, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

It isn't time for the Bush cabal to slither out from whatever rock they are hiding under.

Posted by: homer4 | February 13, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

What really happened? The American people finally figured out the purpose of the republican party: to rob the poor and middle class of their money and channel it to the richest of the rich. Bush, Cheney, and Rove were so arrogant about it, they never tried to hide it. As my grandfather used to say, "The jig is up."

Posted by: skyreader7 | February 13, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Once out of power, these destructive Republicans discover their fiscal tailbone. To Karl and gang, know that your legacy precedes and counters any current words--words that are not worth the virtual bandwidth they occupy in the 'internets', that is, unless we're talking 'confession'.

Posted by: CascadianPDX | February 13, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY (THE OBSTRUCTIONIST PARTY) SHOULD REALIZE WE OWN THE HOUSE AND SENATE UNTIL THE YEAR 2024 AND WE WILL PASS ANYTHING OR EVERTHING UNTIL THE ECONOMY GETS GOING AGAIN WHICH COULD TAKE YEARS.GET USED TO IT REPUBLICANS, NOW IT’S OUR TURN.

Posted by: REDSOX08 | February 13, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse


Notice you Obamanuts have come out of your bunker this week. Where were you the last two "tax cheater" weeks. And you talk about someone else's ethics and integrity? heh heh
You left poor old infuse out here by his/her self. Did right well with no support.
Your silence was deafening.
Axelrod is Rove-lite. Tell the truth.

Posted by: bnw173 | February 13, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Obama brought a bunch of zionists into his cabinet who just "wish the palestinians would go away"; he brought a bunch of Robert Rubin clones into his cabinet because he is charmed with all of their money and bullsh.t arguments. all of this is disasterous for the country. None of them are going to suggest nationalizing some large banks, and using them to lend directly to homeowners who are desperate to refinance. A national bank could refinance at rates of 3.5 percent.

Posted by: jeremiah1967 | February 13, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

If Andy Card, Karl Rove, et. al., had spent less time worrying about what people wore in the Oval Office, and more time worrying about the quality of the decisions made there - instead of blindly accepting whatever their Dear Leader's supposedly infallible 'gut instincts' told him - maybe the country wouldn't be in the mess it's in.

Posted by: lp2004 | February 13, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Yep? Ole Rove's integrity and ethics criticized by a Chicago Scum henchman. Accusing Clintons and just about any one who criticized Obama as being racist. Playing the race card in the future against McCain. Exelon, etc etc...
Yep Ole Axelrod learned his style from Chicago and he dares calling Rove out. Two peas in the same pod.

Posted by: bnw173 | February 13, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Puhlease - save us from Rove! There is a long list of others who should not be allowed to talk until they are in court for their crimes. After 6 years of Republican domination (and 2 more where they had the number to obstruct), two wars, economic crisis, huge unemployment numbers, less health care for our people, billions misplaced or lost in Iraq and now we find the same thing in Afghanistan along with hundreds of thousands of weapons "misplaced" that are probably being used against our troops, KBR electrocuting our troops due to shoddy electrical work, Halliburton and its no-bid contracts and on and on - do Rove and others of the Bush administration have any credibility at all?

Posted by: Utahreb | February 13, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

The ONLY thing that I have believed in the last 8 years that Karl Rove has spewed out of his mouth is "how" he has transformed the Republican party. IT IS DEAD!!

"HECK OF A JOB ROVIE"!!!

Posted by: marinemommilof3 | February 13, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

An advise to all the republicans: if you want to join the effort to rebuild the American economy join the President and the nation we welcome you. If you prefer to be obstructionist side with Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh, you will be discredited and ignored by the American people, you will be regarded as a poor looser.

Posted by: tepexpan | February 13, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

It's funny--Rove and company are still counting on the non-vengefulness of the Dems. He and a number of others should be facing jail time. Instead, they are able to trumpet their nutball screeds all over the media. Is this a great country or what?

Posted by: Howdeb | February 13, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Karl Rove is the devil.

Posted by: Mini22 | February 13, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Let's face it, the pubbie do not want to be bi partisan, they are doing whatever they can to opposse the new president. Andy Card is worried over jackets not being worn when the administration he was CoS torturing people, prosecuting illegal wars, ripping off the American public for the likes of Halliburton lining their pockets and he's worried about a flipping jacket? Am I in the Twilight Zone?
Rove? Karl Rove? Giving comments...laughable, he should be on trial, and Dick Cheney?(the only thing his mother did right was giving him that first name) lets not even go there, a psychologist in a hazmat suit should go there, not I.

Posted by: PemaRedux | February 13, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

We should all be extraordinarily grateful that Rove and Limbaugh now are de facto leaders of the Republican party. They are divisive and have nothing positive to say. It will be great to watch the whole shebang sink slowly into the quicksand

Posted by: captainspires | February 13, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

It is time to pursue and prosecute the former administration.

As Paul Krugman of the NY Times has already pointed out, not prosecuting that "Al Qaeda in USA" invites new administrations to become unaccountable and irresponsible.

Posted by: overholts | February 13, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Why is this administration so thin skinned? It's not like ex-Clinton staffers like Carvel, Begalla, Davis, et al heaped praise on Bush Presidency. Once these ex-staffers became commentators criticism comes with the territory.

Maybe Axelrod's concern is there is a vein of truth running through all these criticisms. I think Axelrod should worry less about the Bush administration and more about the Obama Presidency.

Posted by: jcn1222 | February 13, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

The extremist fringe of the gop is re-energized. Thankfully for the United States and the world they are in fact a fringe and marginalized group. They still can do much damage, as their opposition to moving the nation forward and the shreiking of their propagandists about the President's success show, but they are back where they were for the decades folloing the last time they were fully in control and nearly destroyed the nation (1920s) They forget that you can't hide when you knock over the lamp in the living room forever. They also think that democracy is a nice word but don;t really believe in it.
They consistently try to cheat anbd lie to win election - which means they know they would lose if he people were making an informed and fair choice. they ignore the will of the majority right now by trying to upend the agenda that an overwhelming number of Americans voted for in November. Their solution is not just to offer more of the same, but to make sure that any sane voices in their own caucus are shouted down with a hysterical shrieking cry. The cry that a rabbit makes when hit by a lawn tractor.

Posted by: John1263 | February 13, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Ach. Even THINKING about the GOP makes me angry.

When you have been hurt, or when you are frightened, or are in trouble and you go to someone to ask for help and they brush you off like you soiled their suit, that is exactly what the GOP did regarding the stimulus package.

True, 2010 is still far away, but the seeds of 2008 were sown well before 2006 and look where that got the GOP.

They can take the governorship of NJ and VA, they can throw all the black and brown people in front of the TV they can find (though they may have to use some mirrors, there isn't more than a handful of 'em) and it will do them no good.

Instead of understanding how the country has changed, they indignantly insist that they are right and dig in their heels. That may have worked when they were in power, but in the opposition they will find their heels sinking in quicksand.

And to put icing on the cake, they want to take LESSONS FROM THE TALIBAN! Is anything more TREASONOUS??? Can anything be MORE UNAMERICAN??? Truly, their party symbol is running around without a head.

Posted by: ethanquern | February 13, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Karl Rove is the scum of the Earth and we all know it. Same as the evil robot Cheney. Andrew Card? A pathetic tool. Axelrod was simply stating the obvious while remaining civil.

I would add Rove's gimp Michael Gerson, who inexplicably gets paid to write in this newspaper, as yet another fountain of raw mental sewage disguised as commentary.

Posted by: alarico | February 13, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

We have always known that liberals are sore losers, now we learn that they are sore winners! You won the elections, get over it! Libs (Franks, Dodd, etc.) are solely responsible for the current economic crisis yet continue to blame the previous administration. Sorry, libs, but nobody believes you. Obviously, there is no such thing as a happy liberal. It is amusing to watch obama stumble through his presidency while pelosi, reid and all of the other Dems fight. Now that the Republicans are out of power, the Dems have turned on each other. I am loving every minute of this!

Posted by: John74 | February 13, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

rove can speak about integrity when he answers his subpeonas. He can talk about integrity when he details all the electoral fraud, crimes, and unethical behavior he has engaged in for the past 35 years. He can really talk integrity when he lists his crimes, attaches them to his forehead, and committs sepuku on live television.

Posted by: John1263 | February 13, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Seeking political advice from Karl Rove is like seeking financial advice from Bernard Madoff. They are both posterboys of what is wrong with the GOP.

The GOP would do well to study the week that John McCain's campaign imploded for his stunt over the first stimulus package. A package that because of Bush and Rove's intransigent insistence on the virtuous character of Wall Street CEO's lead to a $350 billion give away to the wealthiest sector of America.

The only advice Rove should be giving is for his visiting hours to the warden of a federal peniteniary.

Posted by: ethanquern | February 13, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Rove is so out of touch with America. He doesn't see that the Republicans are acting like little children who didn't get their way. Now they're stomping their feet and holding their breath, and hoping the country slides even further into depression. And he thinks this is hurting Obama? Why would Americans believe anything he says after the 8 years we just went through. Where was the fiscal responsibility? Where was the small government? Republicans are hypocrites and the sooner they grow up, the sooner we can begin fixing the problems with the country.

Posted by: tattery202 | February 13, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

The mystery to me is why anyone would care what Karl Rove has to say about anything. He is the architect of the Bush agenda which has failed us economically, politically, and internationally. It is a smear against the WSJ that they give him space to publish his "thoughts?". It is clear that the Republlicans don't want bipartisanship. Hopefully in 2010 they will again be sent a message by the voters that people want the government to do something when there are problems. Being against everything, except ideologically based warfare, is a classic neocon tactic.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | February 13, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

The thing is that many Republicans think Carl Rove is politically sophisticated. Carl must be laughing secretely at them because "he knows" that is not the case. Imagine Mr. Rove finding faults with the stimulus package. I understand because he was so much against the Bush administration spending 10 billion dollars a month on Iraq.If anyone see Mr. Rove, tell him most Americans see congressional Republicans as obstructionists who do not have the well-being of Americans to heart. So Mr. Rove your comments are nothing but outdated political rhetoric.

Posted by: thatsme44 | February 13, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The entire Repug gang (KKK in exile, that is) of criminals that has insidiously weaved its strangulating tentacles throughout the fabric of this nation must be rooted out thoroughly before fundamental change of benefit to the average Joe can occur.

Posted by: sicnarfe | February 13, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

We went to a display yesterday about Abraham Lincoln and the Czar, both of whom freed slaves, and both of whom gave their lives for it. The artifacts reminded me. People who want to do good things often face massive opposition and anger. Barack Obama needs to take the example of those two men. If he wants to help those who have been forgotten, indeed those who have been stabbed in the back, the last eight years, he has to keep on course, to make strong decisions in the face of opposition.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | February 13, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what most of you posters (both sides) would be doing to each other right now if you didn't have the Internet to unload on.

Oh, right: spitwads.

Posted by: mmoretti | February 13, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Really! When did Karl K Krove utter anything truthful or logical? Didn't he "have the math" in the mid-term elections of 2006? Didn't he predict a win for John McMelanoma in 2008? So why would anyone give credence to anything that meat puppet pushes out of its blowhole?

Posted by: sicnarfe | February 13, 2009 7:50 AM | Report abuse

debeins -

"Vulgarity is not needed. Leave that for the angry right."

Oh please. Do you ever read the posts on this board or any other one?

Spare us your hypocrisy. Vulgarity is part and parcel of almost all liberal posters.

Posted by: bobmoses | February 13, 2009 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Wow! You mean Obama's Karl Rove doesn't like Karl Rove? Stop the presses!

Posted by: bobmoses | February 13, 2009 7:07 AM | Report abuse

According to police reports, Larry Craig was still wearing his suit jacket while assuming his "wide stance while tapping his toes", lol.

On August 27, 2007 the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call revealed that Craig had been arrested for homosexual lewd conduct in the men's restroom at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport on June 11, 2007, and entered a guilty plea to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct on August 8, 2007.[7] As a result of the controversy surrounding his arrest and subsequent guilty plea, Senator Craig announced his intention to resign from the Senate at a news conference on September 1, 2007, which was to become effective on September 30, 2007. After failing to withdraw his guilty plea, on October 4, 2007, Craig released a statement refusing to resign as senator for Idaho.

Posted by: 2by2 | February 13, 2009 6:51 AM | Report abuse

For those who have written on this post and have said some rather terse and coarse things, I ask you to remember the words of President Obama and change the dialogue. See if you can disagree in a respectful way. Vulgarity is not needed. Leave that for the angry right.
Remember, when you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty, but the pig likes it.

Posted by: dbeins | February 13, 2009 6:48 AM | Report abuse

Axelrod would need a 30 foot ladder to touch Dick Cheney's boots

so you figure dead eye dick cheney is that low ???

30 feet ???

that's a hell of a hole

any news on when cheney plans to quit digging ???

the republican party is a cancer on America

pass it on ...

Posted by: notstupid1 | February 13, 2009 6:41 AM | Report abuse

tahirn --

From your posting, I assume you're a Republ . . .

So, that would make you an expert on asssholes, as your party seems to make a habit out of selecting one assshole after the other as its nominee for prez.

In fact, isn't it a requirement that to become a member of the GOP, one MUST be an assshole? Or is that just a goal that members (like you!) work towards?

(Pssst! I think you've made your goal!)

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | February 13, 2009 6:40 AM | Report abuse

In GWB's own words, "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ... and, apparently, some from his former administration are still at it.

Posted by: Lorberrys | February 13, 2009 6:34 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love it!

Now that the Republs have lost the last two elections, using Karl Rove's "roadmap for success," they're claiming that the shiit they're selling is just what the country needs!

Yeah, riiiight.

And . . . that they're "re-energized!" -- as if, saying it will make it so . . . or, in other words, simply repeating something until it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Good luck with that one, duhhhhhh.

Karl Rove's biggest handicap is his hubris -- and his belief that the world simply cannot spin on its axis without him. It would be to everyone's benefit to let Karl -- and Chucky Krapphammer and George Will and Billy K. and Rush Limpballs and the rest of the sewer-dwellers in Delusionville, USA -- rant and moan and whine and rail away . . .

It will only insure another Democratic victory in the next election . . . and the one after that . . . and the one after that . . .

Hey, Karl! You killed the Republican Party, girl -- you just haven't figured it out yet, idiot.

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | February 13, 2009 6:33 AM | Report abuse

JPRS wrote: "It appears that phase two of Karl Rove's brilliant "permanent GOP minority" strategy has been put into effect.

The GOP has already ceeded 58 percent of the House, 59 percent of the Senate, 58 percent of the governorships, and the White House.

Can Rove and the Loyal Bushies push those numbers even further down?

I think the answer is clearly a resounding "Yes"."

This is a very funny and appropriate comment, and it reminds me of how Hitler kept rationalizing the Wehrmacht's defeat at the end of WWII. He kept insisting that he was only letting the Soviets think they were winning by letting them invade the Reich, but in fact he was setting a trap for them. I wonder if that is what Rove and Cheney are telling the remaining faithful - Treue und Ehre!!!

Posted by: marecek | February 13, 2009 6:33 AM | Report abuse

28 years ago, after realizing what she had spawned, KKKarl Rove's mother drove into the desert outside Reno and committed suicide.

Posted by: 2by2 | February 13, 2009 6:31 AM | Report abuse

axelrod and his boss are two huge jackasses

Posted by: tahirn | February 13, 2009 6:31 AM | Report abuse

Hello? Get a clue. The Republicans nearly destroyed this country. THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY. So why ask them anything? Why give them a forum for their discredited views? And Karl Rove, why would anyone listen to that criminal? He should be gagged and in prison.

Posted by: nyrunner101 | February 13, 2009 6:14 AM | Report abuse

Karl Rove is hiding in Rupert Murdoch's WSJ. He'll eventually come out when the House subpoenas eventually catch up with him. And as for Bush - he never took off his jacket because the 666 on his neck might have given him away.

Posted by: bobcra | February 13, 2009 6:09 AM | Report abuse

georgegjones wrote: "Axelrod would need a 30 foot ladder to touch Dick Cheney's boots."

What on earth is this guy talking about? What exactly entitles Mr. Cheney to claim the high ground or to claim that he was a competent leader. He was a brutal bully who was willing to sacrifice everything (for everybody else, but not for himself) in order to get what he wants. Can you explain to me why you think Mr. Cheney should be revered as a great and admirable leader?

Posted by: marecek | February 13, 2009 5:56 AM | Report abuse

to bush & co. i say: given your demonstrated lack of substance, you relied on suits and ties to bestow legitimacy and to project competency. it falls in the same category as what happens when in staff meetings, when there is nothing of importance to say, the discussion revolves around the position of the toilet seat.

Posted by: nystateofmind | February 13, 2009 5:45 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Cheney that closing Guantanamo Bay prison is a bad idea. We really need a place to send Rove and other Bush advisers where they can no longer do harm. Letting them remain on American soil is just too dangerous.

Posted by: FellowTraveler | February 13, 2009 5:33 AM | Report abuse

Card's comments show just what a tiny, hypocritical little weasel he is. As for Cheney and Rove, they should be on their knees thanking God they're not rotting in Gitmo themselves.

Posted by: truble2301 | February 13, 2009 5:17 AM | Report abuse

Karl Rove is a jiggly bucket of fat. He is an adorable, pathetic little eunuch. He is fun to laugh at.

Posted by: euroguy | February 13, 2009 5:06 AM | Report abuse

We've tried it their way since 1980. Enough!

I don't want a party run by Rush Limbaugh to be in charge of my country.

Posted by: toosinbeymen | February 13, 2009 4:32 AM | Report abuse

What position is Carl Rove in to criticize Obama's economic plan?

The Bush/Rove white house delivered the current economic situation to Obama and the rest of US public!

NO WORDS can describe the power BUSH, ROVE and CHENEY excercised in accoplishing this devastation defeat to the American public.

Posted by: vicbennettnet | February 13, 2009 4:21 AM | Report abuse

Bush administration are the worst that ever was in the history of this country. Cheney,Rove and rest the clowns need shut up! They did enought talking in those 8 years. Their lies,corupt schemes,shredding the consitution,torture,spending a surplus,invaders and cronyism have done great damage to this country. Anyone you defends these action need to get their head examined. I hope their legacy portrays them as just incomptent Political Thugs. The GOP bufoons need to shut up too and reflect why they lost 2 election. You think they would realize after Mccain lost,that they can't win on just tax cuts and diviness politics are not working anymore. They need to open eyes and close those mouths to see American is changing in regards to demgraphics. If it wasn't for President Obama,the Democrats would have their problems too. They better grip when it comes to spending. I saw the writing on the wall when the orginal stimlas bill originated from the House Democrats. I very please when those moderate Repugs became the power brokers in the senate. It appears that President Obama needs to control those lefties,if he doesn't,Obama might be a one term President.

Posted by: valjeanharden | February 13, 2009 3:59 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: saramichal33 | February 13, 2009 3:18 AM | Report abuse

n the first poll conducted after Barack Obama was elected president, the Democrats held a 15-point lead over the GOP on economic issues. In December, their lead dropped to 12 points. In January, prior to Obama’s inauguration, Democrats held a nine-point lead on the issue.

Seems to be a trend here.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | February 12, 2009

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Yyyyyaaawwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! Hey ChangeWhat we get it! In your own words "the world was so much better during the dark ages"

Heck back then you coulda executed people under some fake religious premise with perfect impunity.

Bumma you missed that one, but heck, maybe if you rethug hate mongers get your way the good ol days will return.

Posted by: htruman1 | February 13, 2009 3:17 AM | Report abuse

A great victory for rationality, compromise, bold economics, and brilliant politics. It may well have saved the world economy from total collapse. The political process will make getting 60 in the Senate on other bills possible. All Republicans will not strain at a mouse. Time brooked no delay. Obama bet the farm. Looking back in three and one-half years we will recognize some key people rising above partisan politics.

Posted by: folk1 | February 13, 2009 3:16 AM | Report abuse

My most sincere apologies to mehrenst1. I mistook you for mbaorbust. Please redirect my previous statement to good ol mbaorbust.

mbaorbust - sucks to be a racist doesn't. It must be because of the AA's that you lost your min wage job. Boo hoo, if only you'd finished high school you mighta made min wage + $1.

Have fun bashing others for living the Am Dream..... r----t hy------e!

Posted by: htruman1 | February 13, 2009 3:09 AM | Report abuse

I disagree with mehrenst1's comment that Cheney hasn't picked up anything heavier than a piece of paper. After all, he did pick up a shot gun to shoot his friend.

Isn't mehrenst1 glad he is not one of Cheney's friends?

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Regretfully I suspect that mehrenst1 lost all power to reflect (i.e., think) after the 2nd lobotomy. For the record, the stuff about o-such-and-such-yo-mama holds a special place in mehrenst1's heart. You see his mama and pa held prominent roles in "Deliverance". Need I spell out who his pa was??

Have fun in BFE hell mehrenst1 :(


Posted by: htruman1 | February 13, 2009 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Now let's see, Bush et al (a.k.a. the Texas Dirt F*ckers) defended his entire presidency by saying "look, there were no more terrorist attacks", right?

A. OK so you put locks on the cockpit doors of all airliners... so guys with box-cutters couldn't get in - quite accomplishment over 7 years.

B. Oh, and by the way, you're the President of the United States... can't you get anything else done at the same time? Shouldn't you be, eh, one of the better multi-taskers on the planet? Well, I mean aside from attacking a country for no reason (costing the US taxpayers $1Trillion+ ... and killing 10's of thousands of young Iraqi men that didn't want to fight for Saddam but had to).

Posted by: chasgiffen | February 13, 2009 2:58 AM | Report abuse

I understand Mr. Axelrod's disdain for Bush/Rove/Cheny/Card. Maybe congress should create an official Hall of Shame, for people like them to be dishonored.

Posted by: autowx | February 13, 2009 2:52 AM | Report abuse

Why haven't Cheney & Rove been EXECUTED for high treason?

Posted by: chasgiffen | February 13, 2009 2:43 AM | Report abuse

These would be the Bush aid's, the ones whose Republican brand is as tainted a can of Peanut Corp of America (also owned by a conservative Republican) peanut butter?

News flash to the GOP: YOU LOST THE ELECTION!!!

Posted by: gce1356 | February 13, 2009 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Yes The GOP was totally ineffective over the 8 yrs.
they refused to take leadership from the start and Drill the Commies, Sorry, Dems into the ground.
Now the Communists have won the WhiteHouse and control the House.
We are all so totally screwed.

Posted by: CaGrandPa | February 13, 2009 2:33 AM | Report abuse

How dare anyone question the great and powerful OZ!!!

How dare anyone look behind the curtain!!!

Posted by: bug45 | February 13, 2009 1:47 AM | Report abuse

O-bang-your-mama and the Dumbercrats just can't take any criticisms from anyone. You think being the president is easy? You guys can bash Prez Bush all you want, O-bang-your-mama can't even find qualified people to fill his "dream team" cabinet...hahaha

Posted by: mbaorbust | February 13, 2009 1:27 AM | Report abuse

I disagree with mehrenst1's comment that Cheney hasn't picked up anything heavier than a piece of paper. After all, he did pick up a shot gun to shoot his friend.

Isn't mehrenst1 glad he is not one of Cheney's friends?

Posted by: steviana | February 13, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

You could tell that Cheney was going to be a pain from the start. His little farce of being in a wheelchair for the Inauguration because he hurt his back moving boxes... RIGHT! Cheney hasn't picked up anything heavier than a piece of paper as he shoved it into the shredder.

Cheney had previously stated he would not be standing for the Oath Of Office if Obama won.

Posted by: mehrenst1 | February 13, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

The Repugs are blithering idiots. I don't believe the Republicans are 're-energized' bwahaha. If in the midst of a huge economic downturn the only thing they find to talk or carp about is the President taking his jacket off?? Puulease, gasp I'm shocked NOT a guy takes his jacket off to be more comfortable.

Posted by: carol90403 | February 13, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Rove writes for the wall street journal??
So let's boycott the wsj !!!

Posted by: knjincvc | February 13, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

"Bush staffer" = passe and irrelevant

Posted by: labman57 | February 13, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

The weepublicans have brought ugly partisanship to a high---or is that low?...art. It is all about party, not about progress or principle, loyalty to the country, or moving out of this morass they created with their dimwitted narcissistic alcoholic president. They would rather bring the country down than lose the scrimmage.

Ugly is not strong enough. Traitorous might better fit.

Posted by: rpmcestmoicoxnet | February 13, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

bush administration officials, bush league governance, bush league analysis, bush league critiques.

Posted by: brwntrt | February 13, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

"Re-energeized!" So he means that Obama has done what Palin couldn't. Mr Rove, you can't re-energize a corpse.

Posted by: help4mac | February 13, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

I take great pleasure in the fact that these fools from the Bush/Republican crime family are watching the Obama administration succeed in reversing their policies of mass desruction, and trying to set the great ship USA on course again. I still believe that we will all get to see them in prison, where they truly belong.

Posted by: DrainYou | February 13, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Axelrod would need a 30 foot ladder to touch Dick Cheney's boots.

Posted by: georgegjones | February 13, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Disdain for Karl Rove - gee, that's headline news. By the way, how's that immunity letter working out for him?

Posted by: DoTheMath | February 13, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

After following the news for over 8 years, it would appear that we should be calling them what the period was. It was the period of the Cheney/Rove administration.

It is becoming evidently clear that Mr. Bush was merely a "figurehead President", allowing his strings to be pulled by those surrounding him. Rove in politics, Cheney in foreign and domestic affairs, and Rumsfeld running his own foreign policy on Iraq from the Pentagon.

Is it any wonder that we have arrived at such a mess, both domestically and internationally?

It is perhaps needless to ask where was the "real press" was while all this was happening?

Posted by: rlaitres | February 13, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Start an investigation in to the Bush administration now, that'll shut the tu-rd blossom up.

Posted by: AverageJane | February 13, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Poor little Repugs. They were hoping for Sarah Palin in the White House, holy sh*t can you imagine that? Can't you see her backstabbing McSame at every opportunity.

The incredible corruption of the bush/cheney, rove, gonzales, libby, rice, neo-con goon squad still needs to be prosecuted for the theft, lies and torture they participated in.

This is what the Dems need to do. Prosecute these worthless bastards to the full extent of the law. Including Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, etc.. Spend however much time is necessary to prove to the public and to the world that the USA runs on the Rule of Law, not on the whim of a bunch of radical goons. Subpoena all of them, send a swat team to collect them if necessary...make them respond to the questions or be incarcerated for treason.

Oh yes, as for the Dems tax and spend label the Repugs try to lay on us all the time...I have one for you.

Republicans...tax(the little people but not the wealthy or wall street) and spend spend spend.

Posted by: JimmyNDallas | February 13, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Karl Rove need to take his lover Jeff Gannon and get out of this country, before he goes to prison. I know he will have to answer for all his criminal deeds ,and soon.

Posted by: pokeymompokey | February 12, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

BUT WILL IT REALLY MATTER?

NOT AS LONG AS TROLLS SUCH AS MYSELF BLAST THE INTERNET IN OUR PAID DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF OBSCURE GOVERNMENT ANTI-PROPAGANDA LAWS.

http://My.NowPublic.com/scrivener

Oh, I'm really gonna get it for this.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 12, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Grammar patrol: The correct word in this graf near the end of this otherwise fine story is "loath," not "loathe."

White House officials have generally been loathe to criticize the Bush administration directly -- believing that the American people want to move forward, not look backward.

Posted by: grethenry | February 12, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

"Karl Rove should be the Bottom Sweetheart of cell block K."

Nah. He might like that too much.

Posted by: cloudynites | February 12, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

"loath" to criticize, not "loathe." Look them up.

Posted by: cleonard1 | February 12, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

The republicans only goal is to undermine President Obama.

His success ensures they will be out of power for years and maybe decades. If they harm the country in the meantime, well what's new? Besides, to quote another Republican who helped destroy a country

"Stuff happens."

Posted by: FauxReal | February 12, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama won but the War for the Soul of America is not over. The corrupt GOP Beast is down but not out. The corrupt Neocon's are working from their perches in government and the mainstream media in an effort to derail the Obama Presidency. The best thing that could happen to America would be if Rush Limbaugh choked on a pain killer and Karl Rove finally came out of the closet. How in the hell do you think a Gay Male Escort with ties to Karl Rove was given a preferred White House Press Credential and allowed over night stays at the White House. Jeff Ganon was either Karl Rove's lover or someone the Bush Administration was covering for.

Posted by: LondonInNY | February 12, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Let the Bush criminals keep spouting their venom. It's only going to tarnish them even more, and will serve to remind us of the Bush/Cheney/Rove failures.
Someone mentioned Bobby Jindal as an opponent for President Obama in 2012. Being from the state of Louisiana, it just ain't gonna fly. Obama would make political mincemeat out of Jindal. Jindal is not adored by most Louisianians as some in the press would have you believe. Run Jindal run. I cannot wait to see your so called ''star'' fall.

Posted by: Lalady | February 12, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Giving Bush/Cheney credit for their handling of 9/11 and keeping America safe is like bragging that you no longer beat your wife. The Bush Administration destroyed America.

Posted by: LondonInNY | February 12, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Only two other Presidents have come into office in such a time of desperation for our nation as this one.

Prove otherwise.

Posted by: CynthiaD1 | February 12, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who worship at the alter of Bush, Rove, Cheney and Card really need a history lesson. This crew was standing guard when 9/11 happened. They have never come clean about what they knew, did not know but it is awfully convenient that 9/11 gave the Neocon's the War and the Power they wanted. Read a book. Check out the From the Wilderness Blog by Michael Ruppert.

Posted by: LondonInNY | February 12, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Enough of this bipartisanship, no-looking-back BS. The GOP is clearly not playing ball. Launch a full scale investigation and prosecute Rove, Bush, et al. Only then can we truly move on.

Posted by: groovebak | February 12, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Members of the current adminstration may be "loathe to criticize" the Bush/Cheney et al, but many who voted for Obama want them held accountable for their shamefully illegal acts.

Posted by: 76chelle | February 12, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, Bush took office, just a few months into it the tragedy hit us..."


Bush was advised in a high level briefing from Rice in August of 2001 that terrorists were planning to crash planes into buildings. What was the response? You would think that after the terrorist bombing of Pan Am flight 101 (the second major terrorist attack on Americans during Republican Ronald Reagan's watch. The first being the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 that killed over 200 Marines) that we would have sent major alerts to the airlines on this threat. What was he waiting for? Flight numbers and departure times of the hijacked planes? And note that Rice's briefing had nothing to do with Saadam Hussein.

I'm tired of hearing this utter nonsense from Cheney and others about how they kept us safe after 9/11/01. Why didn't you heed the warnings for that one buddy?

And if George Bush is given a bye because 9/11/01 happened a little less then 9 months into his admin then I think you should not be condeming Obama for an economic situation that he has inherited when he has not been in office for one month.

Posted by: CynthiaD1 | February 12, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse


Most of these bloggers should have their heads exmined.I wonder how they would have handled the day 9/11 tragedy happened.These same guys sat on their Tush when Clinton acted with clarity bombing of Sudan-a children's hospital and dropped bombs in Afganistan- a pretense and cowardly action. Unfortunately, Bush took office, just a few months into it the tragedy hit us, Our governemnt was clueless.This was a terrorists Tsunami and let us see how we are going to handle this economic Tsunami-again Clueless- pouring money where it cannot be absorbed. The Triage post is turning aimlessly- the twister- Obama is just pouring money to stop the wild fire. Don't panic and stop begging for help.
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A Children's Hospital! Bush killed over a million innocent people based on lies. He sends us to war looking for Bin Laden, then says he hasn't paid to much attention to where Bin Laden is while our soldiers are getting killed looking for him. You really need to stop listening to neo-con radio.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | February 12, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

WHY ISN'T KARL ROVE IN JAIL FOR TREASON?

Posted by: suec716 | February 12, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Our new President is totally immersed in the future welfare of this nation. The disaster left on his desk by the failed Republican adminsistration, and the band of barking Chihuahua's nipping at his heels, remind one of clueless predators trying to finish ripping the guts from a crippled nation. Republicans just need to get out of the way. In Congress, the Republicans act like their feelings are hurt.

Posted by: mavajuan | February 12, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

David Axelrod is "EXACTLY" right about Rove, Cheney and Card. I will go a step further, as I am merely an American Citizen and do not have a boss, much less a President to report to. Karl Rove and Dick Cheney are LUCKY that they are not hanging from a rope in a public square for the TREASONOUS CRIMINAL CONDUCT that they engaged in while members of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. The Bush/Cheney Administration is the most corrupt administration in the history of the United States of America. Bush/Cheney/Rove=Nixon/Agnew on steroids. Obama won the 2008 Election but these folks are laying the groundwork to discredit Obama from day 1. The GOP could not steal the 2008 election but they cheated enough at the margins to preclude Obama from getting 400 Electoral votes and flipping a few more red states to blue. Andrew Card of course never issued an apology for his insulting reprimand of Obama, even when the evidence showed Bush and Reagan in the Oval Office without a tie or jacket for that matter.

Posted by: LondonInNY | February 12, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Jindal - 2012!!

Posted by: Phil6 | February 12, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

David Axelrod went to Stuyvesant High School. Stuy grads don't take "stuff" from anyone, especially morons who have no right to even pretend they did a good job.

Your mothers!!!!!!

Posted by: queenskid | February 12, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey Karl, how's that permanent republican majority working out for you. BAAAAAAAHHHH!!!

The comments from the bush cabal just represent the desperate squealing of failed men circling the drain of obscurity. They have a lot more to worry about than wearing jackets in the white house.

They're preaching to a dwindling base - good fodder for SNL skits, but for realistic governance...forgettaboutit.

Posted by: houston_progressive | February 12, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Most of these bloggers should have their heads exmined.I wonder how they would have handled the day 9/11 tragedy happened.These same guys sat on their Tush when Clinton acted with clarity bombing of Sudan-a children's hospital and dropped bombs in Afganistan- a pretense and cowardly action. Unfortunately, Bush took office, just a few months into it the tragedy hit us, Our governemnt was clueless.This was a terrorists Tsunami and let us see how we are going to handle this economic Tsunami-again Clueless- pouring money where it cannot be absorbed. The Triage post is turning aimlessly- the twister- Obama is just pouring money to stop the wild fire. Don't panic and stop begging for help.

Posted by: jayrkay | February 12, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Why the hell didn't he stick it to Bush to. Bush's handling of the transition was probably the worst of any President. Obama going to spend the next four years trying to undo Bush's last minute environmental nightmares. I think everybody should do a little Bush bashing at least once. He deserves a lot more.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | February 12, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

"I believe most fair-minded people would retain a lot of respect for Condoleeza Rice"

I think Stanford should disavow all connections with her, what college known for its high academic standards want to associate with someone who either was unable to make correct decisions based on fairly obvious evidence OR allowed herself to be talked out of those correct decisions by idiots.

Oh yeah, i guess Yale must also be proud of it's Alumni's stellar intellectual display over the last 8 years.

Posted by: BigTimePatriot | February 12, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

As upset as we are about this stuff, I believe President Obama expected as much and decided he could only manage his own behavior, not theirs. He is going about doing his job as he thinks it should be done, offering courtesies and expecting them to be equal partners in government. So far, everytime they open their mouths, coupled with the behaviors displayed during this stimulus debate, just shows the country who and what they are without the President having to fire one shot. They look even more small, peabrained, angry, intolerant, hypocritical, rabidly partisan, and totally uncommitted to governing in the best interests of the country and her people. I believe this Stimulus debate was a critical point for them to demonstrate if they had any credibility left after their presidential campaign made a cartoon of them and they have blown it, reinforcing that which we concluded during that campaign. They are toxic.

Posted by: nana4 | February 12, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

GOSH CHRIS...STILL THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR POLITICO TO BE SO SUPPORTIVE OF THE GOP? FROM THE SOUNDS OF THE RESPONSES, YOU GUYS NEED TO LISTEN UP.

Posted by: Grissom1001 | February 12, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

A distain shared by a super majority in the United States which is why the GOP has obstructed the good of the country for the last 2 weeks....someone needs to take them by the hand and say "Repete after me..MANDATE"... LOL sure they can say it! They had it for the last 8 years and squandered it which is why they are no longer in power! See ya Karl, wouldn't wanna be ya!

Posted by: Grissom1001 | February 12, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Axlerod is of course correct. By the way while watching the congressional hearing on the peanut salmonella debacle in Georgia, I listen to a Congressman Deal from Georgia?...what's the deal, this guy was an apologist for this company who didn't show a bit of concern for the people buying contaminated product. I just wondered if anybody ha checked his contributor's list to see how much the peanut industry has given this guy...my goodness brown nosing is alive and well!

Posted by: anghiari | February 12, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Karl Rove should be the Bottom Sweetheart of cell block K.

Posted by: angelos_peter | February 12, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

It is as easy for these drones to mouth off from their cushy bunker armchairs about "fiscal responsibility" because they are "fixed" for life with government pensions and benefits. They do not have to concern themselves with unemployed middle class workers who are homeless and new to the soup kitchens. They cannot aknowledge their part in this but they can armchair quarterback with criticism and advise.

The shame they carry is so intense they must not only go deep into denial but must trip into the delusional, self righteousness of those for whom there is no earthly salvation.

Their "legacy" is one of total discredit and shame. The more they behave like this, the less relevance they will have and can be finished off for good.

Posted by: nana4 | February 12, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

You mean the Condoleeza Rice that was the most effective and frequently trotted out public face of the administration knowingly lying through her teeth pushing the administration's lies and scare tactics to sell the Iraqi war to America? The 'in the form of a mushroom cloud' Rice? That Condoleeza Rice?

Posted by: spigzone | February 12, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

The desperate attempts to malign our new administration before it has even had an attempt at correcting the mistakes of the last 8 years, speaks volumes about the neocon mentality. That ideology not only failed to "lift all boats", it failed with colossal proportion. The Bush administration has zero credibility, the lowest approval rating in half a century, and the dubious distinction of overseeing an $11.5 trillion dollar loss in American wealth. At this point, anyone who is partisan enough to believe the rantings of Rove or Cheney is simple delusional.

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Posted by: kylewu86 | February 12, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Rice carried so much water for Bush that she actually referred to him as "her husband" - sorry - she gets no respect. Nothing to do with being democrat or republican, but everything to do with the fact she sat by quietly while Bush, Cheney, and Rove happily rampaged through the Constitution of the United States and made being a member of the british commonwealth seem like a good idea.

Posted by: cymric | February 12, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Card, Rove, and Cheney, represent the worst of America. Sick sick sick individuals that got us into this mess, and could care less about the American public and what harm to America they actually caused. They should be tried as war criminals.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | February 12, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

peter777

"GOP is devoid of ideas"

And what were those Lib Dem ideas again?
Oh wait, tax and spend and spend. Brilliant.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | February 12, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

n the first poll conducted after Barack Obama was elected president, the Democrats held a 15-point lead over the GOP on economic issues. In December, their lead dropped to 12 points. In January, prior to Obama’s inauguration, Democrats held a nine-point lead on the issue.

Seems to be a trend here.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | February 12, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Brendanomaidian: I agree with most of what you said, but I believe most fair-minded people would retain a lot of respect for Condoleeza Rice.

Posted by: wolfstan | February 12, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Rove has absolutely no training or experience as an economist. In fact he has only a high school diploma. Rove does not have any clue about stimulus plans except that he is opposed because he thinks that position is going to help the GOP win the next Congressional election. So the Wall Street Journal has him writing criticisms of the Stimulus plan. What does that say about the Wall Street Journal? And, leading spokespersons and architects of GOP strategy are people who never went to college or flunked out- e.g. Rove, Rush L., Hannity, Beck, and on they go. No wonder the GOP is devoid of ideas!

Posted by: peter777 | February 12, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Libs have such very thin skin. They just cannot handle criticism of their cult leader. They get very agitated. Very emotional. What a shame.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | February 12, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

KKKKarl Rove is as brilliant bright insightful as is shown by the outstanding results he has created. Brilliant I say, but not as smart as the WP who gives him the room to express his obviously brilliant views that have helped empower or economy into the dynamo it is today .. (oops!!!)

Posted by: gweeks | February 12, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

The GOP might want to check the polls. Obama has very high approval ratings, the Congressional Democrats have a net positive, but the GOP? They are upside down. Surprise!

Posted by: suekzoo1 | February 12, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

What should be looked at, is the sad fact that Bush Inc. did not only rape our great country, they continue to try and cause more problems while sitting their fat asses in the peanut gallery.

Send them all to hell!

Posted by: CitizenXXX | February 12, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

'"Mr. Obama, for all his talents, has already re-energized the GOP and sparked a spending debate that will last for years," wrote Rove.'

A SWAT team should search that man's home for drugs. If they happen to kill his dogs, so much the better.

Posted by: officermancuso | February 12, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

America is learning the difference between successfully running FOR office and successfully running AN office:

Gregg, Daschle, Richardson, etc- Vetting?
Makes Palin's seem thorough!

Now our commander in chief on his magnificent "stimulant" package-
NYTimes 2/12/09-
"when they finally pass our plan, I believe it will be a major step forward on our path to economic recovery.

And I’m not the only one who thinks so. Yesterday, Jim, the head of Caterpillar, said that if Congress passes our plan, this company will be able to rehire some of the folks who were just laid off. And that’s a story I’m confident will be repeated at companies across the country — companies that are currently struggling to borrow money selling their products, struggling to make payroll, but could find themselves in a different position when we start implementing the plan. Rather than downsizing, they may be able to start growing again. Rather than cutting jobs, they may be able to create them again.

That’s the goal at the heart of this plan: to create jobs.

But oops. After the president left, Mr. Owens not only did a turnabout on rehiring; he also suggested there may be even more layoffs."

"Oops?", NY Times? Before the election you told us Obama was the Messiah....guess not.


Posted by: thecannula | February 12, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

The word you used, loathe, means to hate someone. You wanted LOATH, which means reluctant.

Jay Adams-Feuer

Posted by: jadamsfeuer | February 12, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

This is sad! Rove giving advice is like "putting lipstick on a pig"! I don't think Mr. Rove the Falsenews icon, that Obama has energized the GOP. Outdated rhetoric, a lack of character, and plain Fossilism have kicked in and cause the GOP to become the "Party of Nothing New". Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, Eric Cantor, David Vitter, Micheal Steel, and Ken Blackwell, they are all individuals that are from out of space and the GOP look to them for leadership. We are American and we only respect that which represent America! We repudiate the practices of the Civil War. The World celebrated Nov. 4th because it is evident America has turned a new page and the GOP is in the back of the book. The history section!

Posted by: turtlelovenurse | February 12, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Still trying to get those republican KoolAide trucks started, hey??

Maybe you didn't get the memo yet - WE PULLED THE PLUG ON THEM ALL! YOU'RE DONE...GO AWAY...Next stop - the Hague...

Posted by: rbaldwin2 | February 12, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Axelrod is a gun for hire. Who cares what he says? At a basic level, he and Rove are the one and the same. They'd do whatever, say whatever, run over whoever in order to get their guy elected. It is not about right or wrong to them, it is not about principle; it is all about winning.

Posted by: argie | February 12, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are such poor losers.

Whine, Whine, Whine

Get over it already, you lost!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 12, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Bush and his aides are war criminals, torturers, thieves, and congenital liars.

Posted by: PutDownTheKoolaid | February 12, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Rove, Bush, Cheney, Card, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, et alia= traitors and murderers. Let anyone prove they committed no treasonous acts.
No smokescreens will ever hide their profiteering for power at the expense of the USA military and the economy. 9/11 anyone?

Posted by: brendanomaidian | February 12, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

It appears that phase two of Karl Rove's brilliant "permanent GOP minority" strategy has been put into effect.

The GOP has already ceeded 58 percent of the House, 59 percent of the Senate, 58 percent of the governorships, and the White House.

Can Rove and the Loyal Bushies push those numbers even further down?

I think the answer is clearly a resounding "Yes".

Posted by: JPRS | February 12, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Bush and his Republican buddies have screwed up this country for the past years years...

Now MOST in the Republican party are trying to wreck President Obama's attempt to fix their economic mess!!!

For 40 years, use to consider myself as an Independent, but, since the Bush Years, HELL WOULD HAVE TO FREEZE OVER, before I ever vote again for any Republican!!!

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | February 12, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Andy, Dick and Karl will continue to bray like spoiled little rich kids who dropped their triple-scoop cone. Certainly it must be someone else's fault! Rome is burning fellas and it happened on your watch. If you really cared about your country, you would retire to your private clubs and whine alongside your favored slices of white bread. I'm sure all 10 of them feel the same way you do.

Posted by: 3rdGenRFan | February 12, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Those that attempt to diminish Obama presided over the worst Presidency in history. Their immense failure strips them of any and all credibility.

Posted by: xargaw | February 12, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't Rove be in jail by now?

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 12, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

PS: thanks for the mess, guys.

Posted by: paul37 | February 12, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Hypocrisy is thy name Andy Card, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney.

Andy Card lied about president Obama disobeying the Oval White House. In fact HuffingtonPost debunked his stupid story the other day with pictures of George Bush, his boss, Bill Clinton, Gerald Ford, all sitting in the Oval Office without jackets.

Karl Rove, who used 911 to grab hold of a majority party in the country, and who used the Justice Department as his private office, should me marched off to jail. Why is he still out here?

Dick Cheney, on the other hand, is heartless. And get this, did you know that Cheney did not hurt his back at all before Inauguration. He was ashamed to walk out there because of all the ugly things he has done to this country.

The Republicans are mean-spirited. Look at Judd Gregg and what he did today. He lobbied for the job, and then double-crossed the president.

This is a crowd that claims to put country before self. They are big on faux images and lots of empty rhetorics.

Posted by: askpeabody@cox.net | February 12, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Criminal. Absolutely criminal, not wearing a jacket in the oval office:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/05/bush-jacketless-in-oval-o_n_164513.html

Posted by: paul37 | February 12, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I wish commenters here wold stop blaming the current mess this country this country has been placed in on Bush. Look, can you think of even one Republican that hasn't been a problem ?This is a whole Party of crooks, corporate and Wall Street lapdogs, fools, and treacherous swine. To be sure, there are plenty of Democrats that deserve the same description, but the only people I see who will stand up for this country and for good honest work by our citizens are those Democrats.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | February 12, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I think that it is vitally important to be dressed properly if you're going to muck up the country.

Posted by: Rich19 | February 12, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

These are the Bushie fools that brought about the mess that Obama's team must now clean up.

Just...Go...Away...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | February 12, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Lincoln is a Democrat? When I was a kid,"The Party Of Lincoln" was the Republican Party, now the Southern Successionest Party dosen't evan act like they ever were in the same party as Lincoln.

Posted by: tniederberger | February 12, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Gee - I was relieved to know that Bush and his minions were well dressed while they were making the decisons that have proved to be so disastrous for the US and the World. Puts it all in perspective - doesn't it?

Posted by: rja-toronto | February 12, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Axelrod is a lightweight compared to Rove and if he has any sense at all he'll terminate this childish joust before he gets thoroughly trashed.

Posted by: rplat | February 12, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

This is rich. Rove, architect of a failed Presidency, Administration and Congress, is telling America that Obama and the Democratic Party don't know what this country needs and Republicans do? What part of "America rejected you and your ideas" can't Rove understand?

Posted by: OlderandWiser1 | February 12, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

You would think that a Party who's official head was jeered out of town would be sufficiently cognizant of the present public opinion to sit quietly out of the way and not remind people that they were in charge until three weeks ago. Instead they keep popping up and spouting off like they think the counrty is going to "come to its senses" and give them back the White House. But as long as they keep shouting "we wouldn't have done that if WE were in charge!" every week or so, in 2010 nobody will be able to forget what the party stands for, and vote accordingly.

After that the sole Republican dog catcher in central Idaho will be the leading Republican candidate for President.

You really hate to get in the habit of thinking your political opponents are stupid, but these guys keep doing what they are doing and even the most charitable of us will decide that being total bozos isn't actually an act.

Posted by: ceflynline | February 12, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Bush advisers should all hang their head in shame and then go crawl under a rock.

Posted by: SarahBB | February 12, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Andy Card's remarks were totally ridiculous. Normal people do take their jackets off when working at their desk. If I walk by a guy's office and he's got his jacket on then either he's heading off for a meeting or he's an empty suit who is trying to impress people. The White House is a working office; it is not a shrine; if Bush kept his jacket on all the time, then he obviously wasn't working.
********

democrats ability to rationalize everything and anything they do never ceases to amaze me

when you're trying that hard to rationalize what someone is going, thats a the good indication right there

more importantly though, WaPo reported that obama jacks up the heat in the white house because he likes it warm.

but wasnt he the one who gave that speech in berlin where he said we cant just keep our homes at 72 degrees and eat all we want?

yet he takes off his jacket AND jacks the heat up

talk about hypocrisy

everyday we are becoming more and more aware of how brazen and shameless obama was on the campaign trail about saying literally ANYTHING to get elected.

who wouldve believed that Hilliary lost to him because she wasnt brazen and shameless enough?

scary stuff

Posted by: dummypants | February 12, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"But, Axelrod's comments show the disdain that he clearly holds for some within Bush's inner circle."

Phew, glad we have you pundits around to explain this stuff to us.

Posted by: mcdillo | February 12, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

They did nothing of value for our country while they were at the White House and they have nothing of value to say now.

Dick Cheney should just go into a church and prostrate himself in front of the altar, confess his sins and beg for forgiveness. Then he should lay low and hope no one charges him with war crimes.

Andy Card's remarks were totally ridiculous. Normal people do take their jackets off when working at their desk. If I walk by a guy's office and he's got his jacket on then either he's heading off for a meeting or he's an empty suit who is trying to impress people. The White House is a working office; it is not a shrine; if Bush kept his jacket on all the time, then he obviously wasn't working.

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | February 12, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

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