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White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs is pushing new poll numbers that show support for President Obama's economic stimulus plan. AP Photo/Evan Vucci

UPDATE, 1:35 p.m.: In a memo penned by Republican pollster Neil Newhouse, he rebuts the idea that the new Gallup numbers prove that the public supports Obama's position on passage of the stimulus package.

Newhouse cites a gap between the 67 percent who approve of the way Obama is handling the economic stimulus plan and the 52 percent who favor passing the president's legislation in a Gallup survey last week as evidence that "while Obama gets 'style points' for his handling of this issue, make no mistake, Americans have very mixed attitudes about the stimulus plan, and are NOT sold on either its urgency or its substance."

Original Post

As President Barack Obama heads to Indiana and Florida over the next two days to sell his economic stimulus plan to a somewhat skeptical Congress, White House and congressional Democrats are moving around new poll data that suggests the public is broadly supportive of the bill.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs sent out an email to reporters this morning touting the data -- from a Gallup survey -- that showed roughly two-thirds of the public approves of the way Obama is handling the passage of the economic stimulus package while just 31 percent say the same of congressional Republicans.

"These findings.....underscore the degree to which Obama appears to be maintaining the upper hand over his opponents from a public opinion perspective as he and congressional leaders wrangle over the precise form and substance of a new economic stimulus plan," writes Gallup head Frank Newport in a memo on the results entitled "Obama Has Upper Hand in Stimulus Fight".

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod mentioned the poll during his flight from Washington to Elkhart, Ind. "There is strong support for this," he said. "I think the Gallup poll this morning reflects everything I've seen for the last couple of weeks."

The poll was also circulated this morning by Jen Crider, the communications director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and Brad Woodhouse, the head of Americans United for Change, a liberal group pushing for the bill's passage. Crider said the survey "shows that the American people demand action and are just saying no to Republican' obstructionism."

The push to highlight public support for Obama on the economy comes amid stiffening opposition among congressional Republicans for the legislation, which is likely to pass the Senate tomorrow with far less than the 80 votes (or more) that were originally envisioned by optimistic White House aides.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) put it bluntly in an interview with the Post's Alec MacGillis and Perry Bacon Jr.: "What transpired . . . and will give us a shot in the arm going forward is that we are standing up on principle and just saying no." Meanwhile, other past and future party leaders -- Arizona Sen. John McCain and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal -- have come out publicly in opposition to the plan.

Who's right amid this increasingly partisan debate? It's possible that both sides are.

Recent polling -- beyond just the Gallup survey cited by Gibbs et al today -- suggest that a majority of Americans support Obama in his efforts and believe that something must be done by Congress to turn the economy around. (Pollster.com's Mark Blumenthal effectively debunks the myth that public support is eroding for the stimulus plan in a must-read piece published late last week.)

But, for Republicans, the rallying around the smaller government, lower taxes, less spending mantra is a return to the party's roots -- roots that many activists believe they abandoned in recent years and are at the center of the GOP's recent electoral failures. That is, Republicans may well be using this fight to help define (or re-define) what the party stands for and, in the process, rallying its base for the longer-term climb back to majority status.

Want more on the polling fight over the stimulus? Make sure to read Post pollster Jon Cohen's take on all of the numbers here.

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 9, 2009; 12:00 PM ET
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BroadwayJoe says the Rassmussen poll showing the majority of Americans against the stimilus is bogus. But he says, "Two out of three Americans support BHO's stimulus/jobs package, which has bipartisan (Specter/Collins) support in the Senate. Case closed." Gee, Broadwayjoe, where did your figures come from? Your own survey at Starbucks? Plus you offer a street-level guess of 85% support. Now that's scientific accuracy for you.

People who trash legitimate polls while fabricating their own are the most useless posters on this blog. If you can't find the facts, just make them up right Broadwayjoe? It you go to the Rassmussen web site you'll see testimonials from Democrat after Democrat praising Rassmussen for the credibility of their work. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

And the poll results are still the same. The majority of Americans are opposed to the stimulus bill. In fact, 62% want more tax breaks and less spending in the bill.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/economic_stimulus_package/support_for_stimulus_package_falls_to_37

Posted by: BothSides | February 10, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

“I just wonder what medication the Republicans were on for the last 8 years to make them forget about the spend and borrow strategy of the last 8 years. Do they have a better solution to their self induced disaster? “

I think I can answers for the Reps. A better solution to the spend and borrow strategy of the last 8 years would be to triple the same.

Posted by: leapin | February 10, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Shame on both parties for acting like they are independent of the real power brokers lurking inside the beltway!! Finger pointing is nonproductive and it always leads to worse government. The Democrats have the power in two branches of government -- the outcome of this bill lies solely upon those who wrote it.

Posted by: newbeeboy | February 10, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

No destroy's sprit like poverty. GOP are good at creating poverty and dispare for millions while reaping the benefit. IN addition, making government look silly, thus the need to get rid of or reduce it. Then big business will have no other conterbalance large enough to stand in their way. Rememeber they work for US citizen, we employe them.

Posted by: crrobin | February 9, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Shame on Democrat party leaders, and shame on our President. Frankly shame on Congress as a whole. When we desperately needed a real stimulus package whose spending is traceable and whose effects are verifiable, which is exactly what we were promised, the party in power is once again swimming in the political cesspool of fabricating public opinion rather than being leaders. While they and their republican hacks pat each other on the back, they should start looking for new jobs in the economy they've created. They sure as h*ll won't be re-elected after the economy gets worse instead of better while Wall Street & Pennsylvania Avenue residents get richer. Elitism at its finest. Unfortunately for them, we're not as gullible as they and the President think.

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | February 9, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

As far as the stimu-LESS bill, read the bill yourself. It is POLITICAL PAYBACK to all the people that voted in Barry. Unions, teachers, cops, park rangers, Federal workers, Indians, stooges, community activists. Wait……….what is missing? Where is the working class of Americans in this stimulus? NOT IN IT ANYWHERE!

Posted by: MaggieMay2 | February 9, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I just wonder what medication the Republicans were on for the last 8 years to make them forget about the spend and borrow strategy of the last 8 years. Do they have a better solution to their self induced disaster?

Posted by: kjmilow | February 9, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

"Thanks CaptainQ, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 37% favor the legislation, 43% are opposed, and 20% are not sure.

Two weeks ago, 45% supported the plan. Last week, 42% supported it.

Opposition has grown from 34% two weeks ago to 39% last week and 43% today.

So opposition has grown 9% and support has fallen 8%, a 17 point swing in two weeks. And Gibbs is talking about their support? Does he think Americans are stupid. Maybe they do. That might explain his total disregard for the facts and the will of the American people.

Posted by: BothSides | February 9, 2009 6:03 PM"
__________

After seeing "Rasmussen," we stopped reading. Rasmussen is bogus. Let's get serious. All of these polls, even the pro-stimulus results, are invalid because the persons polled don't know what is in the bill. If they are keeping up with the happenings, they can't possibly know what version of the bill the poll is referring to. Give me a break. Our street-level guess is there is 85% support of some major federal jobs bill. Folks could care less about the bill's details; they just want jobs.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

At a time when hate radio hosts openly announce that they "hope Obama fails," kind words about 44 are always welcome.

But Judith Warner's NYT column today (linked to on Drudge) may be a little over the top.

Until reading Warner, we thought Sen. McCaskill was the most emotionally invested (in a good way) in 44. Not a chance. NYT's Warner takes it to a new, much higher, kinda scary level.

Link to Warner article:

http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/sometimes-a-president-is-just-a-president/

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Every month the Democrats gain around 1/2 million supporters for the stimulus.

Posted by: 12345leavemealone | February 9, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Thanks CaptainQ, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 37% favor the legislation, 43% are opposed, and 20% are not sure.

Two weeks ago, 45% supported the plan. Last week, 42% supported it.

Opposition has grown from 34% two weeks ago to 39% last week and 43% today.

So opposition has grown 9% and support has fallen 8%, a 17 point swing in two weeks. And Gibbs is talking about their support? Does he think Americans are stupid. Maybe they do. That might explain his total disregard for the facts and the will of the American people.

Posted by: BothSides | February 9, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Odd, the just released Rassmussen poll shows the majority of Americans against the stimulus plan 43 to 37. It also shows a 15 point swing against the plan in the last two weeks with most people now clearly against it and the trend going even more strongly that way. Paste this link into your web address and read the FACTS. Rassmussen is tauted by many prominent Democrats as the cadillac of pollsters because of their independence from outside influences.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/economic_stimulus_package/support_for_stimulus_package_falls_to_37

Posted by: CaptainQ | February 9, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a good basketball player. To use a basketball analogy he is about to score a TRIPLE Double!

Double digit inflation

Double digit interest rates

Double digit unemployment

Posted by: leapin | February 9, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

What the GOP fail to recognize in their stubborn principles is that those principles only function well when the economy is healthy. When things are going well, such measures can stimulate growth.

The problem now is we have no growth at all, except for unemployment. There isn't anything left to stimulate. Now we have to focus on stopping the downward spiral, stabilizing the economy, and creating jobs. Tax cuts are not going to do that. but the GOP blindly holds on to old tenets because (a) it's opposite to what the Dems are saying and that seems to be their priority, and (b) in more prosperous times such measures were effective to some degree. They fail to grasp that we are no longer in the good old days.

A good example might be the habits of the average American. In prosperous times, investing and spending kept the economy moving. In prosperous times, it was not a bad philosophy. We are no longer in those times and people have changed their habits accordingly.

In theory, tax cuts sound good. Nobody enjoys paying them and we all know that there is tremendous waste (on both sides of the aisle). However, those same taxes are the revenue that the government uses to fund schools and roads and law enforcement and so on. Everytime taxes are cut, revenue is reduced. In a perfect world this would cause the government to refocus and trim the fat. But we don't live in a perfect world. We live in a world were the politicians want to look good to their constituents and that means throwing money at them. Tax cuts will not eliminate the pork spending; Congress will take the money away from our schools and roads and law enforcement before they tell the folks back home that "no, you can't have that bridge to nowhere because it costs too much and we don't have the money right now."

Posted by: cb11 | February 9, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

For anyone who thinks all Jews are smart, may I present Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va, the House Minority Whip.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | February 9, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Why do you have to top the post with the bogus "update?" Did you do so because of pressure from your GOP contacts or because you really don't believe the poll numbers? More importantly, when will you guys realize you don't have to kow-tow to Republicans 100 percent of the time?

Posted by: swallen1 | February 9, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

icoleman,
I never said those states were the only ones needing assistance on infrastucture projects. I never said the entire 8 or 9 billion had to be included in this bill. Now, what I did say is I strongly believe a stimulous package should contain ONLY items which will immediately address the greatest issues which will impact the greatest amount of people. Infrastructure projects are ALL OVER the country as is our communications grid, power and energy projects, and unfortunately the environment takes precident over the Simthsonian for me, as does educational programs. Pell grants are great, but a child in need of a tutor in 1st grade education is more imprtant. We should not have teachers with 32 kids in their classes (if teachers are still working). The communications grid in this country is archaic and fragile, and homeland security is affected by lack of atttention. Art, music and such are important, but when I see high school kids with the comprehension of a third grader, something is lacking. No child left behind may have been a good program, but it lacks the financial support it deserves. These are the programs which will stimulate the economy. Some long term, some not. I just think the major focus should be on jobs where the benefit is widespread for middle class, underemployed and poor people. Who does pay the biggest portion of taxes? Not working, can't pay taxes and you can't put them all in prison. I never said do not do some of the other things in the plan, just set those up separatley and argue over them latter. We baled financial instutions out and they are sitting on the money giving bonuses and partying, main street was robbed. How do you think those people feel right about now? Probably like the 90 year old man I just read about that lost he and his wifes savings to Maddorf. This 90 year old man has to go back to work because of greed.

Posted by: sinya | February 9, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Two out of three Americans support BHO's stimulus/jobs package, which has bipartisan (Specter/Collins) support in the Senate. Case closed.

The other side had provided no credible alternative to the spending package. As we understand it, the moderate Senators have stripped out the problematic pork from the bill and it now is a lean mean stimulus package.

Could be the reason the Republicans don't support the bill is they don't understand the bill. RNC head Steele embarrassed himself on Stephanopoulos's Sunday show by arguing the government jobs created by the bill were not real jobs because they were Government jobs. Only private sector jobs count, acc. to Steele. On the show, Mike Tyson's former brother-in-law was unable to coherently discuss O's stimulus pacakage, explain why he opposed it, or suggest improvements or alternatives to it. Clueless.

Hopefully, 44 will close the deal on national TV tonight.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

MikeB - If you did not hear it this morning here is the link:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100338745

The author says that "free trade" is one of several ideas that are now outmoded. He was compelling enough that I intend to read his book "The Tyranny of Dead Ideas".

I believed in free trade in principle for my entire adult life - but no capitalist economic model ever pitted "free trade" against "slave labor", for example. Thus I am coming around to a more restrictive view of fair trade policies, that take into account labor and the environment fairly paid and cost-assessed as part of the mix. I still think that traditional notions of free trade might work among equals like Europe, North America, and Japan. But I am going to read this guy's book.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 9, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think the Obama administration hasn't been effective enough so far. A lot of promises were made during the campaign, and right now there are a lot of promises he hasn't fulfilled.


For example, Seany Hannity and Druggy Rush promised me that if Obama was elected, he would make us a Muslim nation and force us all to pray to Mecca five times a day. Yet I haven't seen Obama lift one finger toward this promise. Someone else promised me that Obama would enslave the white race if he was elected. Does Obama think enslaving white people is going to be easy? This is one of those things you have to get accomplished early, while you still have the mandate of public support on your side! I also see no movement toward promises that Obama would round up all our guns, replace all our Bibles with the Quran, or appoint terrorists to his Cabinet.


Mr President, why haven't we seen these changes that Hannity and Rush promised us you'd make yet?!?!


Posted by: DrainYou | February 9, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I keep wondering if our credit card mentality of years past has created an artificial economy that can't be sustained. This stimulus package is another really big credit card charge. Who is giving US the money? When do we pay it off? What is our interest rate? We could use a clearly written truth in lending statement. This $827 billion dollar charge will cost US what in the end? $4 trillion? $6 trillion?

Posted by: Merry1 | February 9, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

@sinya:

"...government vehicles, assistance for cattle, and funding for the Smithsonian..."

Care to elaborate? These aren't stimulus in what sense? I don't think you can make an $900 bn stimulus bill comprised entirely of new highway construction in "Kentucky, Tennessee and even Louisiana"

Posted by: icoleman | February 9, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Sorry; tried to paste "this bit":

Newhouse cites a gap between the 67 percent who approve of the way Obama is handling the economic stimulus plan and the 52 percent who favor passing the president's legislation in a Gallup survey last week as evidence that "while Obama gets 'style points' for his handling of this issue, make no mistake, Americans have very mixed attitudes about the stimulus plan, and are NOT sold on either its urgency or its substance."

At what point will the WaPo's web "design" team be taken out and shot, btw? It's been, what, eight years, and still the comment framework is just absolutely atrocious.

Posted by: icoleman | February 9, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

My first question to most would be; Have you read any of the proposed plans or amendments, or are your comments based on who proposed the plan? I am an independent who voted for Obama because I thought he really could move this country away from the devisiveness occuring in this country. I have read the proposals and amendments and I agree with some line items and disagree with others. TV convertors, smoking cessation, government vehicles, assistance for cattle, and funding for the Smithsonian are some I have issues with. What good is a TV convertor when you can't pay your energy bills? Frankly I would have preferred seeing two separate bills, one for stimulous actions and a second for social program shoring and support. There are people out there separate from the current economic crisis who are suffering from lack of assistance from their government. The people in Kentucky, Tennessee and even Louisiana deserve better, but those issues are separate from the economy, and tax cuts won't help them. We should have learned in the 80's and with the last administration that tax cuts do not "Trickle" down no matter how slowly. People need jobs and temporary assistance until they can get on their feet. Life time welfare is not the answer but sometimes it takes the whole damn village. You can't pay taxes if you are unemployed. A cut in capital gains tax does not help much if your company is hemoraging all over your P&L. While a grand idea, 15% tax cut on a new home is great if you have a job. To me JOBS is the number one, either bring them back or create jobs...period.

Posted by: sinya | February 9, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Love this bit:

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Or, if you weren't a total political hack trying to make the best of an *incredibly* bad hand, you'd look at those numbers and realize that Obama has high numbers because most folks support his agenda, and that the gap in approval between Obama and the Congressional Dem leadership is due to angry *liberals* who feel that the Dem leadership hasn't been aggressive enough in supporting Obama.

This is the same idiocy we were hearing from the GOP pollsters before the election, who pointed at the low approval ratings for Congress as evidence that "America was against Pelosi and Reid" rather than as evidence that a) right-wingers hated Pelosi/Reid for being an evil liberal, and b) liberals hated Pelosi/Reid for being gutless schmucks.

Posted by: icoleman | February 9, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of morons. You blame all of the country's problems on Republican's and ignore the damage don by the Democrats? The loss of millions of jobs, due entirely to "free trade", was one of those brilliant ideas from Bill Clinton and kept alive by swine like Geithner, Chuck "pay-for-play" Schumer, Chris Dodd, and Barney Frank. There are quite as many scummy crooks in the Democratic Party as their are in the Republican Party and both keep trotting out the same god awful economic ideas.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | February 9, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Weren’t the last people to launch a poll offensive the Germans in 1939? This one will be equally destructive

Posted by: leapin | February 9, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

The only poll that really matter - we elected President Obama and large Democratic majorities because the repubkicons messed up our country. They need to be politely pushed aside, and if they continue to squawk like crazy people then they must be ignored like the poor souls in a nursing home so lost to dementia that they shriek out the names of their friends long dead.

Posted by: John1263 | February 9, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Enough is enough -- No more tax cuts for Millionaires!

Posted by: svreader | February 9, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"As a lifelong Republican I feel ashamed for my party -- nothing by shrill partisanship and more of the same old ideas. It appears that they would rather be a permanent minority."

Posted by: LoudounModerate | February 9, 2009 12:52 PM |
Well said. The clock is ticking.
JC

Posted by: JohnCadmus | February 9, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Funny that Republicans are "rallying around the smaller government, lower taxes, less spending mantra" now that Bush is out of office. A Democrat becomes president and NOW the GOP legislators grow a pair?

This stimulus package makes me nervous. What if it doesn't work? That would mean that the hole that Bush & Co. dug will get deeper and deeper.

If roads and bridges are being fixed, and alternate energy sites are being built any time soon, then I'll feel that something is working.

So how come no one's proposing Jon Stewart's plan of giving money to taxpayers rather than to the banks?

Posted by: dognabbit | February 9, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Now the Dems need to put back in some of the more hideous cuts the Repubs made and strip some of the useless tax cuts out while allowing some to stand in the name of bipartisanship. Then ram it through (in the most diplomatic way possible, of course) over the howl of the Repub obstructionists and get on with it.


An aside: I have to wonder how the corporate media feels right about now. Seriously, it must be like debate night over and over again for them when the instant polls kept telling them they were getting it wrong by parroting the Repubs "message". Most of them looked completely bewildered as if the public had viciously and without provocation turned on them. If I were them I'd do a bit of soul searching and consider giving the Repubs the relevancy they deserve in the face of public opinion - namely, very little.


Having the Greedy Oil Party run idiots like Steele out front and center has helped the cause of keeping the Repubs down for the count in public opinion. It does seem like the more air time they get, the worse things get for them. Now that in itself is change I can believe in.


Posted by: DrainYou | February 9, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Its time for Democrats to take the gloves off and point out all the pork barrel spending Republicans have done over the past eight years, not to mention the stuff the tried to do but failed, like the "bridge to nowhere"

Democrats have reality on their side.

Republicans are the real porkers, and they steal from the poor to give to the rich, to boot.

Republican hypocracy is a "target rich environment"

Shooting their BS down and seeing them thrown out of office will be better than any video game could ever be.

Posted by: svreader | February 9, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh, goodie! Does this mean we get to call Robert Gibbs' not answering questions, the dodging and weaving by this collection of clueless insider swine, "poll dancing"?

Posted by: mibrooks27 | February 9, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

GOP learned from the dems and they will keep pounding away. It will be the dems that will lose seats in the next election and again 2012 because they will over reach with spending and this bill won't due what they say. You know it is in trouble when Obama has to go into campagin mode just 19 days on the job which appears more and more that he isn't up to. These polls mean nothing and if you believe a Gallup poll you will believe anything because they are never right. Please spare all of us these comments that I used to a republican and now I'm not because the fact you have to say it tells me it is false. Wait until Obama ask for another bailout and more money when this stimulus doesn't work. The media will keep trying to pump this guy up until it becomes obvious even to them that he has lost the public support.

Posted by: sque1 | February 9, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

"Suddenly, there will be much more pain. And Republicans will rightly be blamed for it."

Anyone who has spent time campaigning knows that there are a lot of people hurting out there. Many people switched from Republican to Democrat voting precisely because of this. If Republicans are seen to be obstructionist, they are going to lose these people forever.

It was easy for Republicans to pull this kind of nonsense during the prosperous Clinton years, but people really want some change. Republicans had better pray that they aren't perceived to be standing in the way of relief.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The honeymoon is definitely over for Obama, having to go on the campaign trail again to rally support for the stimulus plan isn't a good sign for his dwindling popularity. There's a video that takes a unique look at this, here's the video:
http://www.newsy.com/videos/the_new_campaign_trail_for_obama/

Posted by: Mizzoutiger1 | February 9, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Ignoranceisbliss demonstrates that his name is quite accurate. Uncanny how many rightwing lunatics are attracted to this board... but sanity and democrats will prevail.

This is heading straight into a replay of when Newt Gingrich badly misread the public attitude and shut down the government over a budget fight. People stopped receiving Social Security checks, for one thing, and there was a huge outcry.

Very soon now, states are going to start cuting jobs- of teachers, nurses, firefighters, cops, maintenance people, you name it. Hospitals will close, unemployment benefits will dry up, tremendous numbers of people will be without health care.

Suddenly, there will be much more pain. And Republicans will rightly be blamed for it.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I can't stand how two faced the Republican machine is. Polls don't matter.......

never ever ever we do our job based on what is right and ignore the polls (all the while their numbers are in the gutter)

oh wait there's a discrepancy with Obama's poll numbers?!?!?!?

WELL LOOK AT THE POLLS!!!!! AMERICANS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF REPUBLICAN POLICIES BASED ON THESE POLLS

How can anyone listen to these jagoffs and not get a colossal headache?

Posted by: theobserver4 | February 9, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The GOP can continue down this path at their own risk. My guess is they will be running for cover by the end of the week.

Posted by: bradcpa | February 9, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

RECENT DEMOCRAT POLLS WERE TAKEN AT

Inner City Welfare Departments.

Union Halls.

DNC election offices.

Need I say more.


JUST SAY NO TO THE BUREACRATIC GOVERNMENT EXPANSION PROJECT BILL.

If their was such actual concern for the American Citizen any stimulus could have been voted on in much smaller bills 25 Billion or less, and with the most urgent items first. If it would have any merit, it would pass. Its too bad we have a bunch of Liberal pricks trying to jam this down the American Taxpayers throats.

OBAMA There will still be another 3 4/5 years for you and the DNC to propose Government Expansion Projects. Quit playing socialist games with the Taxpayers money. Washington Post article earlier today stated that Billions will be wasted due to hasty action if this Bill is passed.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | February 9, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

senate amendment 145 looks good so far: maybe Joe SixPack can get some guidance and help (not necessarily finanicial, maybe informational) on what happens when they get that foreclosure notice on the door.

S.AMDT.145
Amends: H.R.1 , S.AMDT.98
Sponsor: Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] (submitted 2/3/2009) (proposed 2/4/2009)
AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To improve the efforts of the Federal Government in mitigating home foreclosures and to require the Secretary of the Treasury to develop and implement a foreclosure prevention loan modification plan.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | February 9, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Some Idiot Below wrote: The largest government expenditure is Defense, so why don't they support cutting the Defense budget. Lets Look at defense. But this Government Expansion Project being proposed by Obama and the Liberal Extremist Democrat Leadership, will spend more in one blow, no pun intended, than was spent on the entire Iraq and Afghanistan wars combinded. I'm not going to say that all of the Defense Spending is bad, but you fools are saying that apparently Defense spedning is Bad, so why not spend alot more of the taxpayers money since we already spend alot on the evil "Defense" budget. And mostly money that isn't yet even realized. What a bunch of morons.

JUST SAY NO TO THE BUREACRATIC GOVERNMENT EXPANSION PROJECT aka "stimulus" Bill.

America does not want it, only Liberal Extremists and non taxpaying citizens. The ones who will foot the bill should be the only ones who count with regards to this issue. That would be the working class and middle class American Citizen.

NO 800 BILLION SPENDING SPREE! YES TO RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT. THAT GOES FOR REPUBLICANS AS WELL AS DEMOCRATS. I want the fire held at the feet of any Politician no matter what party they are associated with.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | February 9, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

love it...

President Obama is saying "see, even the polls agree with me".

I betcha 10 bucks Republicans are MAD AS HELL !!

And for "Common Man America"...if you went into work today and have a pi&&ed off boss wrecking your day...they must be republican!!!

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | February 9, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

To Eric Cantor: Please tell me WHAT principle you are allegedly standing for? You are a bunch of losers who can not recognize your failed policy in the last 8 years culminating in the messes we are in right now. All you losers want is more of the same tax cuts despite the sorry evidence resulting from such policy in the past 8 years. The American voters had spoken loud and clear as to the direction we want the country to head. Wake up and work with your Dem colleagues and stop being nothing but a bunch of obstructionists. Your idea of bipartisanship is 'my way' only. Your leader, another sore loser McCain kept repeating that this bill is not bipartisan because he did not have his way - what a sore loser!!!! Instead of recognising the needs to unite for the country, he & all his GOP losers are showing their true color.

Posted by: Bangkokian | February 9, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

As a lifelong Republican I feel ashamed for my party -- nothing by shrill partisanship and more of the same old ideas. It appears that they would rather be a permanent minority.

Posted by: LoudounModerate | February 9, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

WHILE TEAM OBAMA IS PURPOSELY DISTRACTED
BY THE 'GENERATED' ECONOMIC CRISIS...

...IS HIS PRESIDENCY -- AND YOUR LIBERTY -- BEING COVERTLY STOLEN?

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EYES ONLY. TO: President Obama; VP Biden; R. Emanuel; D. Axelrod; D. Blair; J. Brennan; J. Jones; E. Holder; J. Napolitano; R. Gates; L. Panetta; H. Clinton; T. Geithner; R. Mueller; H. Reid; N. Pelosi; D. Feinstein; S. Reyes


RE: Credible reports of HUMAN/CIVIL RIGHTS ABUSES by the ongoing Bush-Cheney "EXTRAJUDICIAL PUNISHMENT NETWORK...

...comprised of security/intel agents, local police nationwide, and citizen vigilantes fronted by government-funded community policing and anti-terrorism programs.


IT IS DAY 21 OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

DO YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOUR "MULTI-AGENCY ACTION CENTER" IS UP TO?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-targets-terrorizes-u-s-citizens

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR (IF LINKS ARE CORRUPTED/DISABLED):

http://My.NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 9, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say this BUT . . . a part of Obama's and the DEM's problem is the use of intelligent but wimpy leaders.
Unfortunately, both Robert Gibbs & Harry Reid look wimpy, sound wimpy and come across as types whose hand shake would be limp.

Shouldn't be important - but it IS!

Image??? Remember John Kennedy.

Posted by: lufrank1 | February 9, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Nevadaandy,
That is exactly what Harry Reid did when he let Collins and Ben Nelson negociate the settlement. And if you notice every Democratic senator has gotten behind the compromise.

It takes two sides to come to a have a collaboration and from everything I have seen the Democrats (at least the ones in the senate) ARE doing their part.

Posted by: AndyR3 | February 9, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Instead of standing up for principles,members of Congress need to show the American voters that they are principled - decent, ethical, honest, honorable,just, moral, noble, respectable,righteous, upright, upstanding (Merriam-Webster dictionary). They need to stop flexing their political muscle and act like adults who can collaboratively work together to solve the massive problems facing the people who put them in office.

The person who has lost his/her job or home doesn't care what party has the most clout, all they want Congress to do is to come together to solve this problem.

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi need to stop their divisive leadership. They need to follow the leadership shown by the President by reaching out to Republicans and including them in formulating a solution to the mess we are in. If they can't be a leader then they should step down and let someone else who can bring both sides together lead. They are wasting valuable time bickering. Everyday that they don't come up with a plan for America more of their constituents are being forced out of their homes or losing their jobs. Americans are paying the price for their inabilit to work together.

Posted by: Nevadaandy | February 9, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Jeb Bush - "We need a Shadow Government."

Rush Limbaugh - "Obama must fail."

Osama Tex Sessions - "We need a Taliban Insurgency."

Dick Cheney - "Terrorist will attack soon."

Hmmmmm.......
Sure looks like they've got a solid LUNATIC FRINGE behind them.

I SAY MAKE THEM FILLIBUSTER. PUT BACK ALL THE CUTS and MAKE THEM FILLIBUSTER.

Posted by: TOMHERE | February 9, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans, the rallying around the smaller government, lower taxes, less spending mantra is a return to the party's roots"

The thing is IMO the GOP's opposition to the stimulus plan doesnt fit with this statement. The Stimulus plan is made up of almost 300 billion dollars in tax cuts, and most of the stimulus is one time payments to states and or different agencies to directly create jobs. These type of things won't increase the size of the federal Government as a whole (like say creating the Department of Homeland Security did).

So basically they don't like the plan because they want to get back to their "less spending mantra". The largest government expenditure is Defense, so why don't they support cutting the Defense budget.
Basically CC, those three talking points that you brought up are just that Talking Points. The GOP love feeding at the government trought just as much as the Democrats do, they just like to feed from it in different ways.

Posted by: AndyR3 | February 9, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

This is enormous political capital. That Obama can be peddling an unpopular stimulus yet still beat the Republicans in the polls...Amazing.

Helps that the GOP is countering the stimulus with absolutely nothing.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | February 9, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

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