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Is Rush Limbaugh the New Face of the GOP?



Conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh. AP Photo/Ron Edmonds

It's one week into President Obama's term and his arch nemesis isn't Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), House Minority Leader John Boehner (Ohio) or even one of the myriad candidates interested in challenging him in 2012.

It's conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh drew huge coverage in the days leading up to Obama's inauguration when he declared that he hoped the new president would fail -- part of a broader condemnation of liberalism in the country.

Obama upped the ante late last week when in a private meeting with Republicans he referenced Limbaugh's brand of politics as a big reason why major legislation hadn't been passed in years.

Then on Monday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs offered another sly provocation of Limbaugh; asked to expand on Obama's comments about the talk show host, Gibbs demurred and then added: "Tell [Rush] I said hi."

Not surprisingly, Limbaugh took the bait. Of Obama, he said: "He's obviously more frightened of me than he is Mitch McConnell. He's more frightened of me, then he is of say, John Boehner, which doesn't say much about our party."

All of the back and forth between Limbaugh and Obama comes just days before the members of the Republican National Committee gather in Washington to elect the organization's next chairman -- a race that has been badly overshadowed by the first days of Obama's presidency.

"The party is in transition," said Ed Rogers, a Republican lobbyist and close ally of Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour. "Our leaders have not found their voice or direction....Limbaugh is filling a vacuum in a world that requires a constant media counter-point."

While there is nearly unanimous agreement with Rogers's sentiment that Limbaugh is filling a void left by the departure of former President George W. Bush from the scene, whether that is a good or a bad thing remains a point of considerable contention among party strategists.

"Rush is a double-edged sword, he cuts both ways" said Phil Musser, a Republican consultant and former executive director of the Republican Governors Association. "Sometimes you love him, sometimes you cringe at his impolitic (he'd say honest) fusillados."

John Weaver, a former senior aide to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), said that Republicans must be careful not to allow their Democratic rivals to paint them all with the brush of Limbaugh.

"The Democrats and the far left will do all they can to grab electoral turf," said Weaver. "And one sure way to do it is take some of the most controversial voices on the extreme right -- like Limbaugh and [Alaska Gov. Sarah] Palin -- and try to insist they speak for all members of the center/right movement."

Democrats are even Limbaugh to raise money. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee sent out an email to supporters yesterday urging them to "Stand Strong Against Rush Limbaugh" by donating to the House campaign arm. "Limbaugh's cheap shot at President Obama might be the first by the Republican attack machine this year but we know that it won't be the last," wrote DCCC executive director Brian Wolff.

Whether Limbaugh continues to play as prominent a role as the GOP attack dog against Obama remains to be seen. If history is any guide, he will. Limbaugh -- along with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.) -- is credited with leading the Republican revolt that brought about the 1994 wave election and his near-constant agitation against former President Bill Clinton is well-known.

Put simply: Limbaugh isn't going anywhere any time soon. And his voice -- and influence -- may well get stronger with the GOP out of power. Is that a good thing or a bad thing for Republicans? Time will tell.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 27, 2009; 12:04 PM ET
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Rush Limbaugh is a yapping dog whose main talent as a successful talk show host is his ability to convince millions of Americans that they will benefit from listening to him yap, snarl, and sell baloney. The problem is not that Limbaugh is a baloney salesman, but that so many Americans no longer recognize baloney when it is put before them.

This yapping dog needs someone to pour cold water on him; and Americans who no longer recognize baloney when it is put before them need to be educated.

Limbaugh buys his own baloney, so if he becomes the new face of the Republican Party, reasonable Republicans will be forced to start a new party.

Posted by: chmills57 | January 31, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Rush's comments are just that, his. To say to his audience that he wants Obama to fail, is absolutely stupid but his right to say it. It is stupid for the obvious reason: if Obama fails, so too do we, as a country! Think on that! It's not just one person, but the nation. WE the people voted for Obama and we have to give him time to set things right again. His devisive comments on most things, do not bring harmony to the table. Rush sounds more like a spoiled child who doesn't get his way and therefore, lashes out to any and all that listen. The thing is to let his views in one ear and other the other. We need change and we have to be positive that we can get ourselves back on our feet. Rush thinks he scares people with his outrageous comments. He's just a bully with a mic.

Posted by: maryfh007 | January 31, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

"Excuse me. I was born and raised in Sweden. We had a 75 year rule of socialism and it wrecked the economy, shut down the defence, plunged the currency (SEK) into the value of NOTHING. Belive me, what Barack Hussain Obama wants to do is Socialism and you DO NOT WANT THAT."

We want a competitive market economy, to break up the companies too big to fail, and repair our infrastructure so that we can be globally competitive.

The current stimulus does some of those things. I wish it were different and the tax cuts are nearly useless. Yet, its certainly a hell of a lot better than having some old, rich fool tell us its "all in our heads".

Posted by: tweldy | January 30, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE, PLEASE tell me that the picture IS available as a toilet bowl liner.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | January 30, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Didn't RL admit in an interview last year that he was chiefly an entertainer? Doesn't he, like Coulter do very well in the sale of books to the faithful? It's all about ratings and book sales and other merchandising. At least the George Will's and Krauthkammer's make some effort at trying to persuade through logical arguments and keep a lid on ad hominem attacks. But the Right loves the read meat vitriolic attacks offered to them by the AM radio crew.

In 1994 some Republicans stated that they owed a lot to the success of their efforts in retaking the majority in Congress to RL's broadcasts. What a different scene it was in 2006 when some of the more intelligent Republicans recognized that his attacks on the RINOs had hurt the party's slim chances of holding on to their majority.

Seriously, if the Republican party feels that RL can help resuce them from the political wilderness then they are more desperate then I ever imagined. And that's a good, good thing!

Posted by: dldbug | January 29, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

The Right loves to remind us of the fate of Air America. Air America failed because liberals do not do strident demagogic rants very well. And this goes much further back then Rush Limbaugh. Audiences in Germany were entertained by the vitriol, rage and sarcasm that came out of the mouths of Goebells and Goering. In the 1930's in the U.S. we had our own version in the Rev. Charles Coughlin, who had the largest audience of his time. And Coughlin thought he had enough power to push the right wing Union Party's candidate for POTUS in 1936, William Lemke. Lemke wound up with less then a million votes and FDR won re-election with the biggest landslide ever. So it wouldn't be the first time we have an example of a right wing blowhard overreaching.

Posted by: dldbug | January 29, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

" "Socialism leads to Communism!! "

It didn't in Western Europe. BTW, Sw2eden did recover very well after it nationalized its banks."

Excuse me. I was born and raised in Sweden. We had a 75 year rule of socialism and it wrecked the economy, shut down the defence, plunged the currency (SEK) into the value of NOTHING. Belive me, what Barack Hussain Obama wants to do is Socialism and you DO NOT WANT THAT.

Posted by: mb70373 | January 29, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The more prominent Republicans caught on tape defending Rush Limbaugh the better for the Democrats. Now we have a stimulus bill opposed by all Republicans, essentially because it is different than the Bush/GOP policies that got us into this mess in the first place. "More tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans." Keep those soundbites coming kids, 2010 is right around the corner.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | January 29, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

if limbaugh is the new face of the GOP, then it has a face like a donkey's butt

Posted by: charlesjacksonnyc | January 29, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

So, President Obama makes a comment about Rush Limbaugh. Then the national press grabs the comment and starts creating news by showing clips of Limbaugh's partisan rhetoric. The press then invites republicans to discuss "Is Rush the New Leader?"

At the same moment in time, the republican party is meeting to pick a chairman and working to "rebrand" the party in an attempt to generate support other than from its shrinking base.

Whether you support him or not, you have to admit it was perfect political strategy on the part of the president to frame the debate.

DAStubbs,
Minneapolis

Posted by: dastubbs | January 29, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

If the right wing wants to make a comeback then maybe Rush is not the greatest choice.

Consider this...One of Rush's biggest critics has been elected to the US Senate.

The coalition that Rush and Newt helped to form in the 90's has evaporated.

Rush admitted the day after the 2006 election that he had supported bad GOP policies because they were GOP policies. So much for America first!

The other problem with Rush is that he is just not that popular. He has 20 million listeners and that is very respectable. But how many other Americans are turned off by his decisive views? How many Americans think he is a hypocrite, a liar, or simply a buffoon?

I am for partisan politics. The Founding Fathers believed that the clash of those ideas were the best way to arrive at good policy. Rush is for partisan politics because it is good for his bottom line.

Maybe its time for the far right to put the well being of the country in front of the well being of the party. I do believe if that happens the well being of the party will take care of itself.

Posted by: fortwayne322 | January 29, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Forget all the emotion and political labels. Limbaugh is in the entertainment business, not the news business, and his goal is ratings. Nothing more. The higher the ratings, the more he earns.

Because of his narcisistic personality, it is easy for him to spew hatred of everyone who is not 100% in lock-step with his "radio" views. That is a large group and gives him an inexhaustable supply of people to hate.

The Republicans, on the other hand, are truly a defeated army, leaderless and disillusioned. If they let Limbaugh speak for them, then the hole that they dug themselves into just got a lot deeper.

Posted by: oldsoldier2 | January 28, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

ackermanphotography: Remember, Adolf Hitler was brilliant. No one was to take him seriously either. Afterall, it's only the crazies that listen to him, right?

Posted by: nwsjnky1 | January 28, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh is a right wing radical of sorts and it seems that the Republicans running Washington McConnell and Boehner are more moderate. So I don't think they would agree with him being the face of the party. I listen to his show sometimes for entertainment and I would say that people who listen to him everyday are right wing kool aid drinkers who hang on every word that comes out of his mouth. Rush's is making $50 million a year for a reason, he has an loyal audience.
Also the guy has to be the most negative SOB on the planet, he never has anything good to say about anybody except GWB. I agree with other posters who say if the GOP doesn't control him he will be the demise of the party for elections to come, unless Obama screws up royally.

Posted by: mc856244 | January 28, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Yehudahellcares:

1) are you saying that no Democrats wanted Bush to "fail" on Iraq, torture, Gitmo, NSA spying, etc.?

2) at the very least, you wanted NSA spying to "fail" right?

3) what's your excuse going to be when Obama FAILS to prosecute Bush for any of that?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

And before the religies get after me for the "no abortion this" and "Godless America" comment, take a step back and read some of the founding father's stuff. I quote from Thomas Jefferson: "I do not find in Orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature." Yep, he and others like Hancock and Adams were in the same boat. Atheists.

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Ackermanphotography is right. He can't be serious, it must be an act. He's way too intelligent to actually believe some of the s#@^ that he says.

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

What's too bad is that Rush had a bully-pulpit, but he squandered it. Just like "Newt" Gingrich in '94. He had a chance to forge the largest, centrist coalition in US political history, but instead he hung a hard right. That's where all this focusing on "no abortion this" and "prayer in school that" and "Godless America" nonsense got started.

Rush, same thing. He used to say intelligent stuff, if somewhat inflammatory and unpopular, like chiding Al Sharpton and other black leaders for continually trying to convince black people that they're victims. Looks like the last election kind of put those guys into the garage, doesn't it. But instead of continuing the no-nonsense approach of telling it like it is, he's gone off into speaking out of context, in half-truths, spin and of course, outright lies.

I think he's just got way too much money and the drugs have got him believing his own bulls#@^. Now he just sounds like David Duke. Too bad. He had his chance, and he blew it.

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

You wouldn't need any stimulus for std's if libs kept their parts to themselves.

Posted by: leapin | January 28, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm a progressive tolerant liberal. That's why Limbaugh can't be tolerated and should be banned.

Posted by: leapin | January 28, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Give me progressive talk radio. I love to listen to "It's for the kids" for 3 hours.

Posted by: leapin | January 28, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

thrh wrote: "Rush Limbaugh: leader of the half-vast right wing conspiracy."

Heck, thrh, judging by the picture, Rush IS the vast right wing conspiracy.

Posted by: nodebris | January 28, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Rush is brilliant, don't you guys get it yet? Do any of you really think he believes the garbage that comes from his mouth? He has made a fortune doing this for years and has the ear of the all important imbecile radio listeners. He's been laughing at his audience all the way to the bank!

Posted by: ackermanphotography | January 28, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Barach Hussein Oboma is our president. He was elected by a majority of the electorate.However the programs he has brought foward we will lead us down the road to socialism. The result may provide a temporary relief for a small percentage of our population but the end result will be a permanent dependence on government aid to a large segment of our country.

I can understand the attitude of the democratic party with the inbreeding attitudes and policies they claim will save our country.However only the ideas and cooperation of all Americans will preserve our countrys' democratic principles.

Posted by: a4853916 | January 28, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: Last I heard, Air America is doing just fine. As far as Limbaugh is concerned; its just that people would rather listen to fat, lazy, cowardly, drug addicted, moronic clowns than to listen to anything that makes sense. People need to know that Limbaugh is merely entertainment and should never be taken seriously. If the Republican party does not learn this, they will be doomed to failure for a good long time.

Posted by: nwsjnky1 | January 28, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Why would the VP or other republican leaders give Rush creditability by appearing on his show if they didn’t want him as their face…….?

This party need to wander in the wilderness for a long time…..They should think of changing their name back to the party that became one of it parts back during the time of Lincoln……..“The Know Nothing Party”

Posted by: pspurio | January 28, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh: leader of the half-vast right wing conspiracy.

Posted by: thrh | January 28, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

vegasgirl1:

That would be another personal attack against me (you have yet to find one that I've posted against anyone here).

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

as1979....you are so right...you've been there, and you've seen the results of socialism....some of these people don't understand the concept at all....and most of them have never listened to Rush Limbaugh...they just follow the dem mantra to bash him....unfortunately, this country is going to have to learn the hard way...

Posted by: mhallan | January 28, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:
I hope "President" Obama fails too.
Posted by: JakeD


And we hope YOU fail, too, poster.
(Oh, wait -- you already ARE a failure!)
Get a life, loser.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | January 28, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"I'm in sheer disbelief about what is happening in America. I thought that when my family fled USSR in 1987 that that would be the last time we would live in a socialist dictatorship but to my dismay it is not. "

Posted by: as1979

You really expect us to believe that line?

No one who lived in the USSR would pick up the nutty line of comparing the US to a socialist dictatorship.

Posted by: j2hess | January 28, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I sincerely hope that Limbaugh is elevated to THE VOICE OF REPUBLICANISM/CONSERVATISM in this nation.
As for the Fairness Doctrine oponents..., how about we also delete the nefarious practice of the minority party's legally mandated response to the majority's bloviations?

Posted by: green39 | January 28, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Keep R. Limp-paw's as the face of Republicans. The Hate, Fear and Division has been rejected by 75% of Americans. It's a face that will keep the Republicans out of power for a generation.

The RNC should ask him to take another blue-pill vacation to the D.R. He likes the cheap OxyC and the cheap dates.

Posted by: thebobbob | January 28, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

ALL-AMERICAN1: You seem like a really angry person. Ever tried yoga?
We get it: you love Rush (perhaps a little creepily.) If you honestly thinks he gives a hoot about you or this country, you're sorely mistaken.
As Obama said, the ground has shifted beneath the feet of mindless idealogues -- on BOTH sides of the spectrum. That Limbaugh and his ilk don't get it is our problem -- not ours.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | January 28, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm in sheer disbelief about what is happening in America. I thought that when my family fled USSR in 1987 that that would be the last time we would live in a socialist dictatorship but to my dismay it is not. Before our eyes, the American people, with full complicity of the media, have been decieved into putting this manchurian candidate into office. His sauve style and his refusal to delve too mcuh into details proved to be an easy sell to America. I have traveled much around the world and Americans are by far the most kind-hearted but also the most naive. Americans opened their hearts to the firt black president, which speaks volumes about the sould of America but it also suggests that Americans have a lot to learn for they have elected a candidate who will trnasform this once great nation into a socialist quasi-dictatorship.

His march to socialism already started. The so called stimulus package is not a stimulus package at all but a massive spending bill for different pet projects of his backers. Free market economics was not in mind when this bill was crafted. This bill has nothing to do with stimulating the economy but it is rather the first hit of heroine to the middle class, who he knows will be hooked on government handouts. And can someone explain to me how exactly will money in this package allocated for sexually transmitted diseases stimulate the economy? What happened to rugged individualism that made American once great?


Posted by: as1979 | January 28, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The "new" face of the GOP?
Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha.
(Sorry, I'm still laughing hysterically over this.)
If conservatives honestly believe this overpaid, overrated, dishonest, corrupt, morally bankrupt hypocrite (who is also a convicted criminal) is their savior any more than Sarah Palin is, then their party really IS in terrible shape.
Give me a break.
Sure the Republican Party has better individuals that this loser. The party *deserves* better than him.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | January 28, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to add a couple of points.
1) Limbaugh said he wants the policies of Obama to fail. I don't want his socialistic policies to succeed either. When the Congress starts reaching into your wallets you'll then wish the policies failed too.
2) The consertative talk radio stations already have an opposing point of view. It's called CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, America Left, and NPR. You can also throw in the American press with the exception of a few. Don't need the fairness doctrine passed. We all know, if you choose to think, it's not really fair.

Europeans call it Socialism
Americans call it Welfare
Obama calls it change

Posted by: drawoh | January 28, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh is CRAZY!!! PERIOD! the GOP NEEDS TO DISTANCE......... itself from Sarah Palin, Hannity, O'reilly, Glenn Beck and him if they want any kind on come back MAYBE in 2016. I don't think they will have ANY CHANCE in 2012 OBAMA is too popular.

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | January 28, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

mmouris:

Someone already beat you to that punch.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Q. What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindeburg?

A. One is a flaming nazi gasbag, the other is a german blimp.

Posted by: mmouris | January 28, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limboo is one perp in our current mess.
Is he really some "leader"; or just a mental
case who will help drag us back into ruin ??

Posted by: eddbrownee | January 28, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

competion = competition

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Hoffmann1:

Air America WAS competion. Didn't work out so well for them.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Bring back the Fairness Doctrine. Better to hear both sides. It will be much harder for Limbaugh to survive with competition.

Posted by: Hoffmann1 | January 28, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

I hope "President" Obama fails too.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

New York Observer Joe Conason's final word on noted anti-American bloviator Rush ("I hope [U.S. President and Commander in Chief] Obama fails") Limbaugh --

Excerpt:

"How fortunate for Barack Obama that Rush Limbaugh, big radio personality and leader of the instinctual far right, has yet to retire to a sunny island with his bottles of pills. At a moment when Republicans on Capitol Hill feel they must pretend to negotiate with the popular new president over spending to revive the economy, he blurted out what they really feel.

Speaking on his daily broadcast and later on Fox News Channel about the president’s prospects, Mr. Limbaugh said forthrightly: “I hope he fails.”"

Full story:

http://www.observer.com/2009/politics/let-limbaughs-whine

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 28, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Sure Limbaugh and all the usual drummers for the right like Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly are the face of the GOP. And if you want to go further up the food chain it's Kristol, Krauthammer, Barnes and all the other neocons. I'm sure the far right lap it up but they are only 25% of the the electorate and of course it's anathema to 70%. I leave all these conservatives to decide if this an an electoral strategy with a future.

Posted by: johnbsmrk | January 28, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Yehudahellcares:

1) are you saying that no Democrats wanted Bush to "fail" on Iraq, torture, Gitmo, NSA spying, etc.?

2) at the very least, you wanted NSA spying to "fail" right?

3) what's your excuse going to be when Obama FAILS to prosecute Bush for any of that?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

In the words of our dearly departed George Carlin (and don't get mad, because you can find this on iTunes, yes, he actually said it):

"Freud said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Oh yeah? Well sometimes it's a big brown #@%^, with a white collar, business criminal a*%hole sucking on the wet end of it."

Seems to apply in this case.

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I thought he quit taking drugs? Who knows?
I also thought he was suppose to be this "big patriot"?He sure doesn't sound like a "patriot" to me.
One would think a "patriot" would want the new president to succeed, for our country to get back on it's feet!
Even though I didn't listen to R.L I use to listen to a particular radio station in St.Louis that carries his show,I turned the dial! I can only hope more people will just tune him out!!!

Posted by: wolfwatcher15 | January 28, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

Sure, I'll answer the 5 questions (3 questions), 3 questions.

What are the questions?

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Yehudahellcares:

Perhaps -- wouldn't be the first time liberals are afraid of real debate -- do you want to try answering the questions?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Also, what's your excuse going to be when Obama FAILS to prosecute Bush for any of that?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

You obviously mis-underestimate julir7 and villella7.

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Poor mhallan, I can see he spends his day listening to Brugball, reading silly ann, then watching Hannity and O'Reilly. Talk about messed up {WOW}

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | January 28, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

julir7 or villella7 (coincidence?):

Are you saying that no Democrats wanted Bush to "fail" on Iraq, torture, Gitmo, NSA spying, etc.?!

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

If Rush Limbaugh is the face of the Republican party, they are even
more doomed than I thought they were.

Posted by: janye1 | January 28, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

If Rush Limbaugh is the new face of the GOP and Palin is the rising star, then we will be doomed to one party rule for a generation. If you thought the Bush administration was addle-brained, look at that brain trust! Dittos Rush!

I can have no faith in any individual that wants a person, particularly the President of the United States, to fail. What an idiot, in my most charitable view.

Posted by: villella7 | January 28, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

To mhallen:

I'm not a Dem, idiot, I'm a registered Republican, always have been. Name calling? Rush invented it. To paraphrase your hero:

"This is not about what you think. This is about what I think. And I think Rush is a jerk."

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The truth is, Rush Limbaugh would rather see America fail than Barack Obama succeed. His whole livelihood depends on it.

If the country makes progress, Rush has less and less to complain about. (not that it would stop him trying; like all his ilk, he is expert at manufacturing outrage over nothing).

His show is not "just funny", it's mean-spirited and misleading. Like similar garbage on Fox, it's opinion presented as fact.
At least with Olbermann, you know the guy's a ranting liberal, and so you can choose to tune in, or not.

A healthy country results when you listen to all ideas, regardless of party. There are merits to some conservative viewpoints, but a polarizing figure like Limbaugh will never sell them to the larger public.

Ironically, Limbaugh contributed to McCain's defeat by berating him so endlessly on his show that Bob Dole wrote him a private letter, asking him to let up!

So if Rush is the "new voice of the Republican party", good luck.

Posted by: julir7 | January 28, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

He's not the new face, he needs a new face. If he were a woman, his face would make a train take a dirt road.

Posted by: Yehudahellcares | January 28, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh is 1) an entertainer and 2) a dangerous man for whom the concept of "fairness" is just part of a large 'socialist' plot. But he should not be taken lightly because he reaches millions with his broadcasts, millions who may not be among the most educated in this country, much as the millions who first supported the Hitler and the Nazis. Of course, then the educated and elite classes also went along. I can see that happening in this country also. Those who try to trivialize Limbaugh or mock him--be careful.

p.s. mhallen should really get back on his/her meds.

Posted by: fgg1 | January 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Keep talking Rush the sensitive ones of both parties are terrified of you.They know you'll leave them in a bloody puddle if they debate you face to face idea to idea. Keep Talking and Keep Punching!

Posted by: ALL-AMERICAN1 | January 28, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"Socialism leads to Communism!! "

It didn't in Western Europe. BTW, Sw2eden did recover very well after it nationalized its banks.

Posted by: piniella | January 28, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

It is very plain by reading this article that some republicans are smart enough to see that by listening to this idiot {DRUGBALL} will put their party in deeper trouble than it is. "POLICIEs AND CORRUPTION OF THE BUSH ADM." got them in trouble and he wants to carry on the traditions of the Bush Adm. Only a fool cannot see that the Bush policies ruined all of the progress this country has made during the last 50 years. It was great for the extreme rich for the first 6 years but during the last 2 years they started cutting each others throats and now the whole country is in deep ????.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | January 28, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

It is amazing when I read back through these comments how you dems always revert to "name calling"...it is so childish!!

Posted by: mhallan | January 28, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"The current financial disaster was caused by socialist legislation that Clinton passed in 1999. "

This is another wingnut delusion. The vast majority of the sub-prime mortgages were made by non-bank institutions that aren't covered by the CRA.

Fannie and Freddie had a role in this mess but not even as much as Citigroup alone.

Posted by: piniella | January 28, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"Fox gives both sides"

Yeah, Hannity's side and O'Reilly's side.

:-)

Posted by: piniella | January 28, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Fats Limbaugh may not be the face of the entire GOP but he certainly represents a good number of the GOP's base.

Posted by: piniella | January 28, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

And you think that ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC is fair???? Talk about one-sided information!!! Fox gives both sides...sometimes more than I want to hear!!

Posted by: mhallan | January 28, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Right..Bush actually tried to warn Congress that this was going to happen if there weren't more regulation, but the dems wouldn't have that...I think some of these people need to go back and study History...I'm afraid the "dumbing down" of the American students has worked!!!

Posted by: mhallan | January 28, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Rush has been the voice of the Republican Party for two decades -- nothing new. His always partisan caustic attacks on Dems mix truth with lies to deceive people. Starting with Reagan, elected Republicans removed the Fairness Doctrine that required radio and TV broadcasts to present both sides, which spawned daily Republican propaganda from Fox News and Rush. Pull the plug on the fat lying foghorn.

Posted by: owens1 | January 28, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Quite simply, Limbaugh despises socialism. The current financial disaster was caused by socialist legislation that Clinton passed in 1999. (If you do not believe me, I suggest you see NYTIMES article from 9/30/99: "FANNIE MAE EASES CREDIT TO AID MORTGAGE LENDING". This article predicts the need for a government bailout, because of this legislation.)

Posted by: sportsfan2 | January 28, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe how incredibly stupid so many of you are...I doubt any of you have ever even listened to Rush Limbaugh...y'all have been drinking the liberal Kool Aid way too long. I feel sorry for you ....you have no idea what you are even talking about.

Posted by: mhallan | January 28, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

RUSH MAY NOT BE THE LEADER OF THE GOP BUT HE IS CERTAINLY THEIR VOICE AND THEIR VISION. IT WAS SEEN IN THIS LAST ELECTION AND IS EVIDENT IN THE EFFORT TO PUT A NEW FACE ON THE PARTY TO ATTRACT BLACKS AND HISPANICS. IT'S HARD TO COVER RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION WHEN IT'S IN YOUR HEART. IT'S LIKE CLOSING YOUR EYES AND THINKING NO ONE CAN SEE YOU. WHEN PEOPLE ACT TO DIVIDE THIS NATION, THEY ARE MAKING ALL OF US VULNERABLE TO OUR ENEMIES. AMERICA MUST SPEAK IN ONE VOICE. RUSH IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE FOREIGN TERRORIST FOR HE APPEARS TO BE THE LEADER OF THE AMERICAN TERRORIST.

Posted by: sm98yth | January 28, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

The media is just pumping up this monster and continuing to perpetuate the damage that killed the GOP....will you people never learn? There was no back and forth from Obama. It was a comment...advice...to keep the GOP from destroying America any further. YOU LOST! GET IT! L-O-S-T! Try a different approach! Rovian politics stopped working a long time ago....and it will not work again! RUSH is a disgrace to America...I have to take a shower after I listen to him.....to clean off the filfth.

Posted by: nursehope | January 28, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm still amazed that anyone like Limbaugh, who bloviates his way through life, would be taken seriously. He's a lying drug abuser who takes pleasure in others' pain. That's symptomatic of pathology, not something to emulate. I would disavow any association with him. Talk about a nattering nabob of negativism!

Posted by: gilbertk1 | January 28, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

NO, Rush is not the new face of the GOP. He is the ugly,snarling face of a man who hates everyone and every living thing. The only things he is interested in are money and power (and food). I hope the exchange between President Obama and Limbaugh shows to the world what a hateful and distructive person he really is.

Posted by: lavndrblue | January 28, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I think that Obama supporters should also support Limbaugh as the voice of the GOPigs.
I'd love to see Limbaugh and Hannity leading the GOPigs for the next 20 years in permanent opposition.
Secretary of State, Anne Coulter.
As one watches FAUX news, one sees the decline of the NeoCons in the guests that Hannity has on his show.
In a few weeks he will be down to interviewing Nancy Reagan as a spokesperson for the GOP.

Gerry Harold,
Uvita, Costa Rica

Posted by: Gerry2 | January 28, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone ever listen to so called liberal radio. Their name calling and propaganda is worse than limbaugh ever thought of. Trouble is no one listens to that view point because apparently it's not popular or not what people want to hear.

Posted by: LTCSTAN | January 28, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe that Obama is so stupid. Rush is a radio entertainer who also bashed Bush over many of his policies. Remember the old lines, Mr. President, about arguing with idiots or wrestling with pigs.... True leaders don't need to remind people who is in charge, time to act not talk....

Posted by: mgochs | January 28, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

You've got it wrong...it's Obama who is going to have the "brown shirts and armbands" with his new Citizens Army!!!

Posted by: mhallan | January 28, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

With good old Rush, we know that Facism is not far behind. That wing of the GOP needs only some brown shirts and arm bands to make the scene complete. Joseph Goebbels would be very proud.

Posted by: clgrafton24 | January 28, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

mypitts2:

Since the MSM assisted him running against Bush rather than McCain, it wouldn't surprise me if they go along with him running against Rush. Hopefully, it won't work with an incumbent.

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

First of all...Rush said he hoped Obama would fail BECAUSE he doesn't agree with his policies...most Republicans DON'T agree with Obama's policies. He is a Socialist, and he is trying to make this country a Socialist country, and apparently, he is succeeding along with his fellow dems....Do you dems really want more interference in your lives by the government? Do you not realize that it is capitalism that has made this country great? Unfortunately, there are some people out there who have been selfish and caused their companies to fail, but that does not mean capitalism is bad!! It is just some of the people are!! If you think things are bad now...just wait until the government starts taking over everything we do...who do you think is going to provide your jobs? Socialism leads to Communism!! Is this what you want for our country? Is this what you want for your children and grandchildren? Do you want the government to tell you what you can eat, what you can watch, who you can listen to, where you can work, where you can go to the doctor, which doctor you have to see, how long you have to wait to see a doctor, to let you kill unborn children who have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, to let an older person die because they have lived a full life and now they just need to die, to take your private property if they want, to take your guns which you might use to protect yourself in your own home just so criminals can have their rights, to take God out of everything just because a few athiests feel left out or are offended, etc., etc., etc.? This country deserves what they get now..hopefully, people will wake up before the next election. Sometimes things have to get a lot worse before they get better.

Posted by: mhallan | January 28, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Rush is Radio at its best! He is the funniest and most talented guy on the air. El Rushbo Rocks! I for one am 180 degrees opposite of the politics he espews but he sure is funny doing it. At the end of the day its just a funny radio show. Get a grip!

Posted by: FrankAdair | January 28, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I think this is great. Rush can take that hard-core, Sarah-Palin-loving, right-wing-fringe and lead them further out of power and influence.

Obama did not just win an election. His victory signals the dawn of a new era. The non-white population is going to continue to grow. The "blue state" type of thinking is in ascendance. The intolerant, arrogant, racist, xenophobic, bellicose, condescending minority that Rush embodies is shrinking and will continue to shrink.

I am proud to be an American. This is Great! Go Rush, go! Take the lemmings over the cliff with you! p.s. Don’t forget Hannity!

Posted by: AdrickHenry | January 28, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

More weasel talk from the King of Radio weasels. His drug habit has eaten his brain leaving that section of hate and bigotry to spit forth his fascist thoughts.

Two words for the media: FLUSH Limbaugh!

Posted by: beachbum1938 | January 28, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I love it. Limbaugh is delusional and 70% of the country knows it. The credibility of the Republican Party is in shambles and no it was not the earmarks and spending. It started with the war in 2004-7 and Katrina. Once the centrist started looking at facts instead of the Fox News and Limbaugh distortion machine the gig was up. As long as the Republican Party ties themselves to a strategy that depends on an alternative reality they will keep losing elections. The only problem is the Republican policies have given us this mess and it requires an alternative reality to support those policies. It might work for a while when it is a distant war where the main stream media can be manipulated, but it does not work when your unemployed and losing your house. Go ahead and run your head Rush… the more of your delusional rants you tell your Ditto Heads the more the Republicans will lose elections.

Posted by: bradcpa | January 28, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Obama is again playing this situation just right. He knew a reference to Rush, even jokingly, in a meeting with Republicans would get attention. I believe his goal is to get Americans to view Rush as the leader of the GOP vs. himself as leader of the Democrats. About 75 to 80 percent of people would go with Obama in that case.

It weakens the currently rudderless GOP to have Americans believe the talented but far-right entertainer Rush is their standard-bearer. It also makes it seem like Republican leaders are blindly following a talk-show host.

Articles like this one play right into the Obama game plan.

Posted by: mypitts2 | January 28, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

DonJasper says
"Are you that freaking brainwashed, pal? What do you think Dingy Harry is, a term of endearment? How about Dick Turban? Just a cute little nothing? FemiNazi? Nope, not name calling, just a sign of liberal super-sensitivity I guess."

You really need to check your facts,it's apparent you do not listen to Rush, your information comes from third party sources.
If you are incapable of distinguishing the difference between this"name calling" and personal attacks that is unfortunate.We can disagree without deamonizing the people we disagree with.I disagree with many liberal policys but I believe most liberals are good well meaning people that simply view the issues in a different light than I. Lastly the General Betray Us name did'nt come from Rush, I believe that came from Move On.

Posted by: saw1 | January 28, 2009 7:30 AM | Report abuse

I am outraged that a US President AND a ruling political party would combine forces against ONE man! An unelected private individual. This is not a government of the people by the people for the people. This is a government set to destroy the people -- one at a time. This is tyranny. This will rightfully fail.

Posted by: smokedgoldeye | January 28, 2009 6:24 AM | Report abuse

DrainYou:

What's your excuse going to be then when Obama FAILS to prosecute Bush?

Posted by: JakeD | January 28, 2009 5:14 AM | Report abuse

Simple truth:

Every time anyone in the executive branch utters the name "Limbaugh", the Great American Windbag is validated and aggrandized; the attacker is diminished.

What's the Prez doing carrying the ball? Can't he delegate, for crying out loud?

Posted by: wordsmith2 | January 28, 2009 4:56 AM | Report abuse

Senators Evritt Dirksen, Prescott Bush, Jacob Javits, and the like must be turning in their graves

Posted by: listats | January 28, 2009 4:47 AM | Report abuse

Limbaugh is a fat piece of goat fecal matter; the best thing Obama & Dems can do is just to ignore it.

Ultimately, like all fecal matter it dries up and its smell is just a foul memory.

Posted by: listats | January 28, 2009 4:44 AM | Report abuse

"Democrats are even Limbaugh to raise money"

^is this a grammatical error or has this fools name become an adjective? :lol:

Posted by: andrewm7 | January 28, 2009 1:49 AM | Report abuse

sorry dittohead conformists:

El Fatso the drug addict is fat. He is also physically ugly, which makes it ironic that he harps on other people.

That is a current photo. Fat fat drug addict leads conformists and tells them what to think.

Posted by: wapoisrightwingrag | January 28, 2009 1:16 AM | Report abuse

We need to forgive Limbaugh for his comments. What most of you probably aren't aware of is Rush was always the fat kid in school who was always picked last (by default as he was the only one left)when the class would choose up sides for a game of Dodge Ball.

And then he was always the first kid to get beaned in the head when the game started. So be a bit more understanding of his situation in life.

Posted by: patrick10 | January 28, 2009 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Regardless of whether the windbag's notoriety is a good thing for the Republicans, it's a bad thing for the country. Limbaugh-type extremism is a big part of what is wrong with the American political universe. He uses his platform to blather, demonstrating stupidity and rigidity. He's really not worth the bother.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | January 28, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Rush's statements are divisive, racist and often wholly false. Either he's a divisive, racist liar or he's conning gullible listeners into believing he is.

In other words, he's perfect as the new face of the GOP.

Posted by: FlownOver | January 28, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh is a perfect face for the GOP. He serves an important purpose: a constant reminder of a court appointed incompetent president who headed the country while his friends enriched themselves and taxpayers lost their pensions and jobs. He will help the democrats stay in office for as long as he is on the air.

Posted by: madrediterra | January 28, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

New Face? Same as the old face.

Posted by: jasperjava | January 28, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Lowbrid is clearly being sarcastic and mocking genuine conservatives...you can tell his post is a joke because all the words are spelled correctly. I don't take my political cues from drug addicts from the right or the left, so that includes Limbaugh. BTW I'd never heard anyone else say that they hoped the President of the United States would fail...that is not a conservative position, but the rantings of a drugged out sociopath.

Posted by: taylorb1 | January 27, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

You liberals just stick to the same old playbook. Instead of focusing on the merits of Rush's arguments, or conservative ideas and principles, you attack the man himself. You are so transparent! The principles that Rush talks about were around long before he ever got on the radio and will be around long after he leaves the public stage. You are all intellectually dishonest and can't point to one single instance where liberalism and socialism has worked. Unless the fix is in with the media, hollywood and pop culture by your side, you are impotent. Now go ahead and attack me, that's all you've got. White male, Army vet, gun owner, live in a small town and I LOVE country music and Sarah Palin. My Crown Vic get's 18 mpg on the way to church on Sunday and I don't give a damn because global warming is a myth!! Yeeeeeeehaaaaaa!!!!

Posted by: LOWBRID | January 27, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

What's up man! I see this wasn't a temp job.

Posted by: TheDiplomat | January 27, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

probably the greatest thing that could happen to keep the Republican party in its back-water doldrums is if it ties its future in any way on such an unintelligent and hateful person as Rush L.
it is beyond belief that in the times we face right now and with the need for americans to come together to solve our problems and those of the world, that people are open to the kind of divisive, stupid, uninformed bigotry that comes out of his mouth. Yea Rush...just keep talking guy and expose the greedy racist party for what it is. The days of that kind of politics are over...wake up Republicans.

Posted by: rayreyns | January 27, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

jakeD...I am stating facts. He has / is all the things I stated. He wants to bring everyone down to his level. He has only his pie hole for fun and funds. He has no value. His value comes in making fascist feel good. That is the crime here....that enought media outlets are there to provide his fix to the raciest!

Posted by: jimmiejay | January 27, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

@JakeD

The craziness never ends with you guys, does it? The whitey tape, the "fake" birth certificate, and on and on...


The level of delusion is amazing on the far rightwing lunatic fringe. I thought they couldn't get any stupider than the birth certificate nonsense. Once again, they've proved me wrong.


The wingnuts can claim BS all they want, no one listens to them anyway. Bush had to sit there and listen to Obama call him out on the damage the country has suffered at Bush's hands. Conservative rule is over, and if we keep pushing forward and not get complacent the Wingnutters will be out of power for a very long time. They can join in the progress or step aside. No amount of whining is going to bring them back into power.

Posted by: DrainYou | January 27, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

People, people, people. When WILL you learn not to feed the trolls.

Posted by: RealCalGal | January 27, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

jimmiejay:

I doubt you could have included any more ad hominem personal attacks. You are aware those are logical fallacies and irrelevant to the argument he's making?

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

--"SAW1 writes, "I have listened to Rush for many years. I find his point of view interesting. One thing he does not do is call names."

Are you that freaking brainwashed, pal? What do you think Dingy Harry is, a term of endearment? How about Dick Turban? Just a cute little nothing? FemiNazi? Nope, not name calling, just a sign of liberal super-sensitivity I guess.

I look forward to your next observation with a high degree of clinical curiosity, SAW1.

Posted by: optimyst | January 27, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse "--

Here's more examples of Rush not calling names:
Howard Dean : "Nikita Dean"
Sen. Barack Obama : "Obama Osama" and "Osama Obama"
Chelsea Clinton : "White House dog."
David Patraeus : "General BetrayUs."
Chuck Hagel : "Senator BetrayUs."

I guess it's only name calling when someone else does it.

Posted by: DonJasper | January 27, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey People lets all look at this: Here is old Rash Limeball. He is obese. He can't get it up. He can't keep it up. He is over 55 yrs so he is past his prime. He only has his pie hole for fun. His followering is contracting unlike his waist line. He never makes a mistake...just ask him. He is addicted to pills, can't keep a woman but possibly keeps young boys. He is a racist. A Fascist. He is not happy and I hope he is not healthy. You want to hook you wagon to this guy???

Posted by: jimmiejay | January 27, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

@ LogicalSC

Sounds like Rush gave you a hit from his hillbilly heroin stash.


You should have mentioned your objection to govt spending when the BushCo Republicans were busy adding a record $5 Trillion to our national debt in only eight short years.


You see, it's idiocy like this that provides us with another fine example of why the GOPukes are now nothing more than a small regional (the south) party.

Posted by: DrainYou | January 27, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Weepublicans, I like that one.This is typical of the FAR Righties,a minute after they are shown the door, they start squawkin about everything those in office are/can/will do wrong.
Translated, its basically a diversion from the COMPLETE FAILURE of the GOP to get anything substantive done in the 12 years they were in control.And now to hear Limpbaugh screaming "Failure" at an administration as new as Obama's, clearly proves my point.
To top it off, pointing the finger at Obama as being a Socialist,please.Wasn't it Your GOPs great Bush who lauded our country with the Largest SOCIALISTIC handouts over his 8 years?!!And if you really analize the former administration and its policies, we were basically being told what to do, how to do it, and like it or not, thats the way they were going to do it(Yes, a little Communistic).If Socialism is so bad, why are more large countrys examinig that philosophy more than any other??Obviously, the Free Market, Capatalist ideology we've been living under hasn't exactly made America a better place,HAS IT??Were more loathed than ever internationally as a country, our Government still beleive's the FREE MARKET economy is the best answer for our financial woe's, yet the Average American is either loosing his job,getting his pay cut, while CES's and the Executives all over Corporate America are still taking home MILLIONS.You Haters make socialism sound like were taking from the rich, and giving to the poor.But those Richie Riche's of our country wouldnt be there if we werent working the lines, productions or assemblies,that make them all that money.It's time for Racial Equality and Minority Diversity to to a rest, and find a means of INCOME DIVERSITY to be the drive that gets AMERICA back on track, and back on top as the Greatest as it once used to be!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mullett | January 27, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

How many hours of productivity are lost or devalued annually as a result of Rush Limbaugh's show?

Rush Limbaugh has 10 million listeners. His show lasts 3 hours (sometimes 4 hours) every business day. That's 30 million lost or devalued hours every day, or 150 million lost or devalued hours every business week.

Over 52 weeks, that's well over 7 BILLION lost or devalued hours.

Rush Limbaugh's show is the biggest drain on American productivity.

Posted by: Dannoday | January 27, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Rush! Did you know that there are 250 million people in this country that don't listen to your crap! Why would anyone want to listen to some druggie screaming into a microphone at a bunch of red-necks.
Red neck definition: Beer guzzling, gun toting, whiskey sucking, dumb, cussing, uneducated, nascar cheering, church going hippocrate. whiteagle38

Posted by: whiteagle38 | January 27, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Every American had better be hoping that this boob fails unless they are happy that the tax dollars of their children
and their children's children is going to be spent, before they have even grown up, to provide contraceptives and abortion care to Planned Parenthood?

Is it really worth the total amount of your descendants' contribution to our country to be squandered just to prove you weren't stupid for voting for this idiot.

Anybody who has looked into the "stimulus" knows that it isn't anything but a way to fund a bunch of idiotic ventures in 4 to 10 years not with your taxes but the taxes of the next 3 generations of Americans!!

Money to ACORN, Planned Parenthood, windfarms, etc?

Posted by: LogicalSC | January 27, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

chaos_engineer:

The same, exact proof would only be accepted if someone you deem "sensible" provided it? That doesn't seem logical.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, the answer is yes. The GOP ran out of ideas and leadership when Gingrich left the Congress. Bush left them rudderless, without any values. Now there is nothing left but Limbaugh.

Posted by: jwpegler | January 27, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: First, I have to apologize for how everyone else is making fun of your question instead of taking it seriously. They're not being very helpful, are they?

Anyway, as to your question: "What if Palin and Keyes PROVED that Obama is not a 'natural-born' citizen and rode in to pick up the pieces from that Constitutional crisis?"

They would be ignored. They're both very foolish and dishonest individuals, so any 'proof' they came up with would be immediately suspect.

Now, what if someone sensible came up with the proof, and then rode in to pick up the pieces?

I'll start by saying that the person who came up with proof wouldn't automatically get to be President. That only happens in fantasy novels.

Vice President Biden would become President. If he chose to run in 2012 and 2016, he'd almost certainly be re-elected. But he's getting old and might decide not to run. It's hard to say what would happen in that case; Secretary of State Clinton would probably be in the best position to win the election.

We do know that a Republican won't get elected. The Republican party is in pretty bad shape and there's no way they can recover enough to win the Presidency anytime soon.

If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask. After all, it's the only way you'll ever learn anything!

Posted by: chaos_engineer | January 27, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I certainly hope that RL is the new face of the weepublican party. Mean as a junkyard dog, rational, hateful, drug addled. The only thing missing here is the note passing under the stall partition.

Posted by: rpmcestmoicoxnet | January 27, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

"I note that the writer of this editorial could not quite make himself state in his piece that Rush said he wanted Obama to fail if he's promoting socialism."

What would be the point of that? I mean, "socialism" as defined by Rush Limbaugh and the other message-makers of the right in this country is defined as "whatever Obama does".

Rush is a professional yakker and gave himself a professional out. If Obama's policies produce good results, Rush can declare them "not socialism" and say he was for Obama all the time. If Obama's policies produce bad, or no results, then Rush can say "See, I told you those socialist policies would fail".

"It's [sic] sounds better to leave the qualification off if your [sic] trying to damage right wing radio, doesn't it? This is always the path that the lying left takes."

You think the author's intent was to "damage" right wing radio? Because he left out Rush's non-sensical talking point about "socialism"? Maybe if Rush stops using socialism as an inaccurate pejorative, perhaps professional journalists will feel the need to quote everything else right wing radio blowhards have to say.

"I notice that WaPo only uses outdated pictures of Rush too (before he lost a ton of weight). Too bad they can't pull the same trick with Gov. Palin."

First of all, how do you know hold old this photo is? I saw Rush on Hannity last week and he still looked obese.

Also, I have a clue for the Republicans: the only people who care about Sarah Palin's looks are (whackjob) Republican men. Everyone else could care less. Leave it to a Republican to hold up a person's looks as somehow indicative of their character, or a reason to support their policies.

Posted by: wwinfrey | January 27, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Our country is about freedom of expression and opinion. I don't care if you like Rush or not-when we are in major economic and international issues, why would any elected official try to stifle free speech?

If you don't like him, then don't listen. If you are threatened because so many listen to him, then figure out why people listen to him and emulate-but do not try to end the freedom of expression, freedom of speech.

I did not vote for President Obama, but I hope he is the greatest President ever because I love my country. But I will NEVER try to stop someone from expressing their opinion.


Posted by: abcdefyfe | January 27, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

is limbaugh still a junkie..he was buying the hillbilly heroin from his domestic staff wasn't he..and flying out of the country to buy his little blue d pills..

Posted by: w04equals666 | January 27, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else (who will return the common courtesy of answering simple questions)?

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

So Jake, I take it you're not going continue the "what if" game that you're so desperately depending on to help your dream ticket win in 2012?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

bcd_2001,

Of course Limbaugh can take care of himself. He just doesn't care rather or not you can take care of yourself which is why he hopes our President fails. He doesn't what job creation, he doesn't want Obama to turn the economy around, and he wants to continue pumping trillions of dollars into Iraq infastures while ignoring our own.

And no Bed, rather or not the economy hit it's down turn in September or December, McCain ran a terrible campaign. He still would have lost.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

For everyone else, other than shoegal_69, you can view my posts on Rush vs. Obama: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/01/26/limbaugh_bristles_at_obama_rem.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

This is liberal fantasy. If the economy had tanked in December rather than September McCain would be President. It’s as simple as that. Limbaugh? The dude makes $30 million a year. I suspect he can take care of himself.

Posted by: bcd_2001 | January 27, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

And what question is that Jake, "what if" there's a October surprise? "What if" Palin and Keyes can prove what more knowledgeable people of the law could not?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, Jake D doesn't what to play the "what if" game anymore....I'm sad.

I was just starting to have fun!

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

shoegal_69:

I will gladly answer your question(s) just as soon as you answer mine, sweetie.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jake D,

What if Obama is secretly plotting to enslave all the white people and convert them to Muslims?

Or what if Obama really is white and he went through a deep tanning process so that this election would appear to be historical?

What if Malia and Sasha aren't his kids and it was all a "family values" ploy?

What if you answered this question, how will Palin and Keyes prove what more knowledgeable people could not?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

By definition, you cannot "answer" a question with another question. Have a nice life.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Jake sweetie, I already answered the question and supplied quotes.

If your best bet for your dream team ticket is a collection of "what ifs" than Sarah Palin better hope that if she is on the ticket, she won't help Obama win more red states than she did in 2008.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

One last time, what if Palin and Keyes proved what several federal judges, 9 Supreme Court Justices, and several high powered DC attorneys could not?

What if Palin and Keyes proved that Obama was really born on the planet Krypton and the son of Jor-El?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

And, it doesn't have to be a lawsuit. How about if it was the next October Surprise, AFTER the Dems renominated Obama who is then proven to be not legally qualified? If you don't want to answer the question, fine by me.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Here's the question (one last time): "What if Palin and Keyes PROVED that Obama is not a 'natural-born' citizen and rode in to pick up the pieces from that Constitutional crisis?"

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Jake D,

Oh, I really care to answer. Most of the "fake birth certificates" lawsuits were thrown out because...and I'll quote here "ventures into the unreasonable,” and, “frivolous, and not worthy of discussion.” Federal Judge R. Barclay Surrick.

The Supreme Court didn't just throw the lawsuits out without review. Hawaiian officials verified the authenticy of the birth certificate and found that there were no grounds for the suit.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

shoegal_69:

The Supreme Court has not ruled on the merits (every case that has reached the Court was denied review on procedural grounds). Care to answer the question now?

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

BillCarson2:

That's what we are here for ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Jake D,

You mean what if Palin and Keyes prove something that the Supreme Court could not?

Palin couldn't even prove that she's capable of complete sentences.........

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I note that the writer of this editorial could not quite make himself state in his piece that Rush said he wanted Obama to fail if he's promoting socialism. It's sounds better to leave the qualification off if your trying to damage right wing radio, doesn't it? This is always the path that the lying left takes.

Posted by: BillCarson2 | January 27, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

BB:

Careful what you wish for. What if Palin and Keyes PROVED that Obama is not a "natural-born" citizen and rode in to pick up the pieces from that Constitutional crisis?

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

JRM2:

Too bad you refused to answer my questions on those other threads, or I would have gladly answered your question on this one.

shoegal_69:

The TRUTH -- there is no proof that Palin ever knew about the policy until long after the situation hit the news, and it is untrue that her town was "unique" in blocking the measure. The City Manager was involved in that. There is no evidence that she, herself, was notorious for the policy, and no proof that any victims were ever charged for rape kits. In fact, according to the Uniform Crime Report there were only 5 rapes reported in the 6 years she was mayor of Wasilla and four of those happened after the state law in question was passed.

http://volokh.com/posts/1222691235.shtml

Also, I'm a retired lawyer, and even I couldn't immediately think of a CURRENT Supreme Court decision that I disagreed with besides Roe v. Wade (that was the actual question she was asked).

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"Palin-Keyes 2012"

Please, oh please oh please oh please oh please.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 27, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

JRM2,

Sarah Palin could drop her pants and tell everyone in the front row of her rally to kiss her lily white butt and Jake and his ilk would be the first in line, lips puckered.

The ONLY reason these lemmings support Sarah Palin is because she has a R in front of her name and she's against women's rights.

Those are the only qualifications for being embraced by the Sarah/Rush Party.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh and Hannity and their cronies are spoilers and haters. They are really not aware of several things. They don't seem to get why they lost the elections. Nor do they get the severity of our national crisis and the severity of the solutions.

They don't know how to govern this country. Their ideas all call for lowered taxes, less spending, fewer regulations and all designed to promote the interests of the wealthy. I wonder how fast Limbaugh would run the country into the ground had he the opportunity.

What is disgusting about the lightweight brain trust of the conservative side is they would rather pout and kick their feet and hope that we failed. They have the privilige of sitting on the sidelines, with no responsibilty or care in the world and snipe at anything and everything the rest of us want to do. They are just haters.

The only solution they can think of is we need more conservative religious fascists so we can expand our base and eventually win an election. Nothing else matters to them.

Cockroaches. They are nothing but cockroaches living on the excesses of our society. And Limbaugh is the biggest cockroach of them all. A totally irrelevant cockroach.

Posted by: patrick10 | January 27, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Riigghhht Jake, most people loved the fact that she couldn't do what most 6th graders can, name a Supreme Court Decision.

Or perhaps you forgot how many Republicans PUBLICLY stated that she was the reason they would not vote for the ticket.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, Gov. Palin never charged rape victims for kits.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:52 PM |"
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So, you think she SHOULD have? ;-)

Posted by: JRM2 | January 27, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"That would be the end of the Republican Party as we know it, so why doesn't he do it if he's so confident it's gonna work?"
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The last 8 years have dug such a deep hole I don't think any human being can save us, we have been royally screwed and are in for a long painful economic downturn.

There is nothing that the Dems or the Rupubs can do to change it, it's too late.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 27, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh, typical of a Palin apologist. Completely clueless.

Watch and learn the powers of the internet, Jakie Boy.

"ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's hometown required women to pay for their own rape examinations while she was mayor, a practice her police chief fought to keep as late as 2000.

Former state Rep. Eric Croft, a Democrat, sponsored a state law requiring cities to provide the examinations free of charge to victims. He said the only ongoing resistance he met was from Wasilla, where Palin was mayor from 1996 to 2002."

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I still think she got McCain more votes than she lost.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Gov. Palin never charged rape victims for kits.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

I notice that WaPo only uses outdated pictures of Rush too (before he lost a ton of weight). Too bad they can't pull the same trick with Gov. Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Jake D, ummmmm, women turned against Sarah Palin faster than the intelligentsia of your party. Did ya forget that Sarah Palin was supposed to bring all those Hillary supporters to the Republican ticket?

As a woman, I'll extend a middle finger salute to anybody (man or woman) who would dare charge a woman for a rape kit or suggest that victims of rape or incest be forced to carry a child to full term.

Unfortunately sweetie, most women are feminist. That doesn't help Sarah Palin in the least bit.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Leadboss:

Good points. On the flip side, too many Republicans are afraid that it might work.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

shoegal_69:

Not at all. Women still outnumber men in this country. Palin-Keyes 2012.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama does not need a single Republican vote in the House to get had you seen stimulus bill. He just needs two votes in the Senate to get it. He does not need Republican votes. "I won," he said. He can trump 'em. Why does he want Republicans on board? Why does he want Republicans on board with this when he can do it without them? If it's such a great plan, if stimulus is such a great plan, then why not take sole authorship of it as the Democrat Party so that when it works you can then really finish off the Republicans? When it works you can say, "And this prosperity was brought to you by Obama and the stimulus package and not one Republican helped out. Not one Republican thought it would work."

That would be the end of the Republican Party as we know it, so why doesn't he do it if he's so confident it's gonna work? Because he's not confident it's gonna work in the way you hope it works. It's gonna work, for what he has in mind. But it ain't going to work in the ways you hope. It's gonna work in building and strengthening the Democrat Party for as long as we live. It going to grow the government. It's going to make the government the sole focus of the United States of America, not individual citizens exercising their daily lives with individual freedom. The reason Obama is desperate to have Republican support for this is to see to it that what happened in 1993 does not happen here in 2009.

Posted by: Leadboss | January 27, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

JRM2:

Freedom of speech (and the prohibition of government to enfringe on it) applies to both sides of the aisle. I would defend your right to state your opinions without prior restraints such as the "fairness" doctrine, regardless of the fact that I vehemently disagree with your opinions.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Jake D, if I had a genie in a bottle and I only had one wish, it would still be that Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh PERMANENTLY become the face of the GOP.

Wassa matta Jakie boy, you still believe that Republicans can win by positioning themselves as the all white party?

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Looks more like the South End of a North-Bound Horse.

Hey, if it is such a liberal media, then all you Ditto heads out there should be in favor the the fairness doctrine right?

Posted by: JRM2 | January 27, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

shoegal_69:

Careful what you wish for.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Who needs the fairness doctrine? Rush, keep talking.

Posted by: gman5541 | January 27, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

To BoothT: So, you're a pro-choice moderate Republican. And Kansas was hijacked by the Radical Right. This is why Kathleen Sebelius has empowerized Tiller the baby Killer. What a maroon.

Posted by: mjloehrer | January 27, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

As Democrats, we need to continue spotlighting Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin. To expand our electoral margins, it's imperative that we make these two extremist the face of the GOP. When comparing these two bigots to the calm cool nature of Obama, the choice becomes clear.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | January 27, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's do all we can to encourage Rush in his new-found role at the voice of the GOP. He could very cause the complete and utter destruction of the entire party if given free rein to expound on his unique brand of "wisdom." Keep talking, Rush.

Posted by: sheehanjc | January 27, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

What Obama is trying to do...

Posted by: tburg_95 | January 27, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

So the new face of the GOP is a bloated drug addict fascist?

What else is new?

Posted by: VeloStrummer | January 27, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

BoothT, I hope you get your party back, or start a new one. The Democrats need a viable opponent, and it looks like the GOP is intent on self-immolation.

Posted by: nodebris | January 27, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Why are we even talking about that fat, obnoxious piece of human excrement. Who cares what that drug-addicted blowhard has to say?

Minus well ask Jabba the Hut how he thinks Obama is doing.

Posted by: theprototypeoftheperfectman | January 27, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Hey Rush, why do you HATE America?

Posted by: jackg1 | January 27, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey Rush, why do you HATE America?

Posted by: jackg1 | January 27, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Rush acts like he's your average Joe,like Six Pack,Plumber ETC. He lives in his multi million dollar Palm Beach estate and has nothing in common with his listeners except the blakness of their souls. Dittoheads vote against their own interests all the time and blame Democrats for all the problems they create. Rush Limbaugh IS a big fat idiot.

Posted by: nodonjuan | January 27, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

As I said in another post:

Being naturally skeptical of anything posted in the East-Coast Liberal media, I doubt that this will make much sense to most of those posting here. I live in Kansas, a state that has had its GOP hijacked by the Radical Right and has elected a Democrat Governor and two Democrats to the House in past years due to the rightist, unpopular, one-issue candidates pushed through by the vocal minority of our party.

I am an old-fashioned, fiscally conservative, pro-choice Moderate Republican. A type that has been as vilified by Rush as have those on the extreme Left, saying that we don't stand for anything. He's right. We don't stand for any more government in our lives, including interfering in our personal lives, using our tax dollars to fund private education or other phony 'stimulus programs'.

It is those who believe that everything Limbaugh says is Truth and Wisdom, not just entertainment, who are the ones we all should fear. For what he says, who he criticizes and what he proposes are done strictly to gain and keep an audience. He has no fear of his possible impact on this country, nor regret for the shameful polarization he has already caused or the damage he has done to the GOP. By this standard alone, he is a very dangerous man who should not be trusted with any leadership position, formal or informal, in the GOP.

What this country needs is a man or woman of courage with a Centrist, Pragmatic approach who can stand up to the noise and static coming from both the extremes, develop a consensus from the moderate center of both parties and say simply 'Enough' and proceed to get done what needs to be done to save this country from itself. Where have you gone, Bob Dole?

Posted by: BoothT | January 27, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

SAW1 writes, "I have listened to Rush for many years. I find his point of view interesting. One thing he does not do is call names."

Are you that freaking brainwashed, pal? What do you think Dingy Harry is, a term of endearment? How about Dick Turban? Just a cute little nothing? FemiNazi? Nope, not name calling, just a sign of liberal super-sensitivity I guess.

I look forward to your next observation with a high degree of clinical curiosity, SAW1.

Posted by: optimyst | January 27, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The Titanic had it's dance band.

The Republican Party has Limbaugh.

Let the music play.

Posted by: optimyst | January 27, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I have listened to Rush for many years. I find his point of view interesting. One thing he does not do is call names. It seems that most of the people on this blog have not listened to him and They are obviously unable to articulate their views without calling names.

Posted by: saw1 | January 27, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"The New Face of the GOP" is clearly, as the old joke goes, a face (and a body) made for radio. 90+% of Americans never listen to his program. If Repubs want to meet the same fate as his short-lived TV show, they should by all means fall in behind him.

Posted by: misterjrthed | January 27, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Rush must be withdrawing from his pain killers again...what a fat-face loser. "He hopes the president will fail." What a disgrace of an American--in times when we're at war, our economy is tanking, people are losing their jobs and homes and a million other things, Rush continues the sad practices of the Republican party and chooses to focus on attacking the other side instead of putting party differences aside and trying to work together.

How sad.

Posted by: jagner6 | January 27, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"... not to allow their Democratic rivals to paint them all with the brush of Limbaugh."

Since when do Republican's care about that?

Matt Drudge must turning over in his grave.

Posted by: DonJasper | January 27, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama is making a smart move here. The Republican Party is currently suffering from a leadership vaccum. One could make the argument that this leadership vacuum has existed since Katrina, when Bush's credibility and popularity began it's downhill slide.

So, much like in political campaigns, Obama is trying to define the Republican Party before they can define themselves. When people think of the Republicans, Obama doesn't want them to think of Boehner, McConnell or even Palin. He wants them to think of a fat-ass, opiate-addicted, thrice-divorced radio talk show host with a reputation for intolerance, negativity, and one of the largest egos in America.

Since Rush's massive ego won't allow him to think strategically on this issue, he's more than willing to play right into Obama's hand. His adoring listeners will continue to reinforce Rush's views of himself by enclosing him in a bubble of "mega-dittos" and elected Republicans will continue to appear on his show so they can kiss his ring, mostly because they still feel some debt of gratitude towards Rush for his role in the last century during the Clinton administration.

He'll continue to hog the limelight, and continue to say stupid sh*t like he's rooting for Obama to fail, except he'll probably escalate it, cause that's his M.O.. The Republicans, having lost most of their sane members over the last 8 years, will continue to play along, not realizing that most Americans want Obama to succeed in his goals of getting the economy back on track and wrapping up our foreign adventures.

Obama can't lose, really. If, in 2-4 years, things are still awful, or more awful, he can make the legitimate argument that it's hard to make progress when the loyal opposition is rooting for your - and by extension, the American people's - failure, and that the solution is to vote more of them out of office. If Obama succeeds, he'll have done so despite Republican support, which will allow him to make the argument that Republicans aren't interested in governing, only ruling.

Obama's goal is to have every American thinking about Rush when they cast their ballot, when they are choosing between the Dems and the Republicans. If he can achieve that, he'll tie the Republican Party's fate to Limbagh's fat ass ands sink them to the bottom.

Weaver is right about this. It might feel good to some Republicans to have Limbaugh leading the charge, and it's no doubt gonna produce some short-term gain in terms of exposure, but in the long run, it's a serious mistake. Republicans are walking into a trap.

Posted by: wwinfrey | January 27, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Note to Republican whiners, "very serious" concern trolls and AM Hate Radio Blowhards (Rush) who are just now taking issue with:

Spending, the economy, detainees that we haven’t been able to get enough evidence in seven years to charge with a crime or whatever other whiny crap that was in large part caused by the very same Republican policies that you cheered for, pushed for or voted for.


Your way failed. Big time. Like "F-" failed. Of epic proportions. The tax cuts for the rich failed. The neverending sinkhole of money for Iraq failed. Torture failed. Indefinite detention of "enemy combatants" failed – even shot down by a Supreme Court where 7 of the 9 Justices were Republican appointees. Big money handouts to the oil companies failed. Big money handouts to the financial institutions failed. Deregulation failed. Ignoring the infrastructure failed (bridge in Minnesota or Hurricane Katrina, anyone).


And because of it, you lost. Badly. Twice in a row.


I think the term is "elections have consequence". You remember that phrase, right?


So guess what? You don’t get to call the shots. You don’t get to suddenly decry spending – when it is going to infrastructure, energy policies and the middle class. You don’t get to perpetuate the approval of torture. You don’t get to bury evidence, to allow subpoenas to be ignored, or to dictate who gets tax cuts. And you don’t get to tell the Attorney General how to run the Justice Department, the Secretary of State how to run the State Department and most certainly the President how to set this country’s policy.

Posted by: DrainYou | January 27, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Limbaugh is rude and crude, and is one reason this Republican has been voting for polite and intelligent Democrats. The best thing the GOP can do is shun and ignore this man.
On the other hand, the rude, crude, and foul-mouthed Democrat fanatics is another reason this Republican has NOT switched parties. I still have hope for the GOP. But we need to speak out more when the fanatic minority of our party usurps the mantle of GOP respectability and wisdom. Conservatism is not a bad word; but it has become that under the banner of an uneducated righteous mob pushing their own religious and moral agenda. What happened to the separation of church and state? GOP needs to wake up and go to their thoughful roots.

Posted by: Gilroygal | January 27, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Rush-Palin 2012 -- I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: AZANNE | January 27, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes please.

With him and the nitwit in Alaska leading the corrupt liars that have basically had control of this country for the last 40 years they might all stay in the wilderness.

Go away and pupate into something better or die.

Posted by: Canonera | January 27, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

one of the dittohead conformists writes

"Fight for what is RIGHT, not what provides instant gradification."

Mis-spelling aside, we know that Rush chose to be a drug addict, chose to avoid serving his country, chose to divorce and re-marry numerous times, chose to not have a family.

Why did Fatso the hedonist do all these? Why has he lived his life like an ugly and angry man's version of a stupid Hugh Hefner?

Instant gratification--or "gradification" for you uneducated dittohead conformists.

Posted by: wapoisrightwingrag | January 27, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

mjblackwell wrote "the demographics of our elected officials would be dramatically different"

What does that mean, exactly? It's a curious phrase. More women, Latinos, white men? Less? Younger? Older?

Personally, I'm a lot more concerned with the intelligence, judgment, and integrity of my elected officials than I am with their "demographics." I'll take a Lithuanian midget animist octogenarian hermaphrodite, if they are smart, honest, prudent, value the Constitution, and act consistently in my best interest.

Posted by: nodebris | January 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

MarcMyWords: Rush has every right to speak his mind and in this case he has it right. He IS more influential than McConnell or Boehner. He DOES speak what most Republicans believe. If the GOP had any sense they would nominate him for office.

Oh my god, PLEASE!

As a Democrat, is there any chance I could get the Republicans to support a Rush/Palin 2012 ticket?

Oh please, oh please, oh please.

Posted by: jvill | January 27, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

All the conformist ditto heads are an embarrassment to Conservatives. Fatso, the drug addict, is an aging bachelor who makes fools out of his angry mob of followers.

Like Coulter, Fatso the drug addict has not even spawned, So much for family values.

And since an "injury" kept him from leading us to a military victory in Viet Nam, could it have been to his...you know? Maybe this is why women don't stay with him.

Even Hugh Hefner had children.

Fatso the clown & oxycontin user may lead his conformist gang of aging angry white people, but 1994 was 15 years ago. I feel sorry for people who have been so brainwashed that they follow this clown whose lifestyle mocks them more than he mocks anyone on the so-called "left".

Posted by: wapoisrightwingrag | January 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

helpdefeatlibs: It's Americans who say things like this who make me want to leave the Republican Party and why we just lost. I say good riddance to you and anyone else who thinks we need to move left.

You party is not moving left.

You party is moving right.

The last remaining Republican moderates -- except for maybe the Maine senators, and handful of reps -- were all replaced by Democrats in the last election.

Most of those Republicans who remain in congress are more right-wing ideological than we've seen in 50 years. Which would explain why most of their ideas sound like they're from the same era.

Posted by: jvill | January 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Litz1: Wow there's been a huge mistake! The Washington Post accidentally re-ran one of Chris Cillizza's columns from 1998 ....

Ha, you beat me to it. Though I was gonna say 1994.

Posted by: jvill | January 27, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

He and Ann Coulter are 2 reasons why the GOP lost badly last year. Both are selfish and pitiful.

Posted by: MissV | January 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow there's been a huge mistake! The Washington Post accidentally re-ran one of Chris Cillizza's columns from 1998 ....

Posted by: Litz1 | January 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe what I'm reading! First, don't just take a third party's word for what Rush is saying. Listen to him before you pass judgement. Many of the complaints against him are a result of this words taken out of context.

As for the new voice of the GOP. Rush does make some good points. The Republican party is inching closer and closer to the Democratic party every day. Whatever happened to the traditional Republican views of lower taxes, smaller government and individual freedom? These are some of the values our nation was founded on and the direction we must head. If more people would stop and think what their core values are and where they want to be in 10, 20, or 50 years instead of thinking what the government can provite for them, the demographics of our elected officials would be dramatically different. Bigger government does not benefit anyone in the long run. Our economy will continue to get worse and our taxes will increase. Read the constitution and think about the kind of life you want your children and grandchildren to experience. Fight for what is RIGHT, not what provides instant gradification.

Posted by: mjblackwell | January 27, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

nodebris:

Here's an old joke:

Q. What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenberg?

A. One's a flaming Nazi gasbag, and the other is a dirigible.

Posted by: sstackwick | January 27, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh makes money scaring people.
Howard Stern makes money grossing people out.
Jim Carey makes money making people laugh.

These people are just entertainers.


If you by into Rush's rhetoric, good for you. I hope you enjoy being angry and scared. Just don't start rioting because this guy says so.

Posted by: Independent4tw | January 27, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Demonizing analternative point of view is old school politics. Good luck with that. People listen to Limbaugh for affirmation of shared views about America, not programming, marching orders or any other instruction. His show will probably become an even larger home for those with need of Obama therapy. I would expect his listening audience to grow despite and partly as a result of liberal attacks against him. Especially high profile presidential comments. Obama or any president really shouldn't even bother to engage a media personality. It would be like George Bush commenting about Oprah or virtually all of hollywood supporting Obama. It really is beneath the Presidency.

Posted by: star_key2 | January 27, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow, judging by the picture he is *literally* a fathead.

Posted by: nodebris | January 27, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Druggy Rush isn't an entertainer. That's a BS copout and that fat ass druggy knows it.


Limbaugh is a f-ing cancer on our political system, he represents and was cheerleading for all of the crap that's been wrong with the political system in our country the last eight years (courtesy of BushCo and the Republican oligarchy).


When President Obama was speaking about what is wrong with our politics during the inauguration, a little picture of Rush and Faux Noise etc popped up in my head.


The modern day Republican party is not interested in the good of the country, they're interested in the Republican party being in power, being in charge. Everything is politics with these morons, they could care less if this country falls flat on it's face as long as they are in charge right up until the very end.


Posted by: DrainYou | January 27, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Please pass this on to The Man:

Mr President, you should call this chuckle head right now. Call him on the air. Do it in a room full of witnesses. Ask him nicely what he would do.Its time someone shushed this fly away from our collective noses.

Posted by: buffalodavid | January 27, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"Rush Limbaugh the New Face of the GOP... Rush Limbaugh is the reason I am now an independent. Extremism on both sides is tearing the country apart"

It's Americans who say things like this who make me want to leave the Republican Party and why we just lost. I say good riddance to you and anyone else who thinks we need to move left.

Posted by: helpdefeatlibs | January 27, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

She was elected as VP candidate by Republican delegates!
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What if the convention chose each candidate independently? Would Sarah have won then?

Me thinks she would still be cleaning fish, gutting slain elk, exterminating wolves and abandoning Polar Bears to a warmer climate extinction.

And we might have had McCain taking the oath of office.

But fortunately for America the Republican Party giives us all these laughable zanies like Palin and Limbaugh for our entertainment pleasure.

And politicians like Bainer and Mcconnell who just don't seem to get it.

Republicans need to lead, follow, or get out of the way. They actually seem to be incapable of doing any of these.

Posted by: patrick10 | January 27, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh is the Republican Party's 21st century equivalent of their 1950s red-baiting Senator Joe McCarthy, and if the GOP doesn't neuter Limbaugh soon, he will destroy their party.

Obama ande Gibbs are crafty and hope to draw Republican leaders into the fray, much as Eisenhower was forced to confront McCarthy to save the GOP from his bullying and kookiness. Already, Bill Bennett has stepped forward to chastise Limbaugh for saying that he hopes Obama will fail.

The American people are waiting for other prominent Republicans to show that they are man enough to take on Limbaugh. Rush is probably correct in claiming that GOP leaders are afraid of him and the bully pulpit that he occupies, so don't hold your breath waiting for McCain, McConnell or Boehner to take him on. This is exactly what Obama and Gibbs want.

As for hard core Republican rightwingers, Martha5 and MarcmyWords are emblematic-- if the GOP hierarchy would let them vote, they would make Limbaugh their party chair and official spokesman. Now that would be rich!

Posted by: skyeirvin | January 27, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

When Rush said, "I hope Obama fails," he completely discredited himself and his "movement."

Saying you hope our commander-in-chief fails is the same as saying you hope America fails. Rush exposed himself as a anti-American blowhard. He similarly exposed all the Rush wannabes: Hannity, Ingraham, Savage, Michelle Maglagang, et al. who pollute the airwaves.

It used to be the hate broadcasters were marginalized (Carl McIntyre was the Rush of the 1970s); their shows were on 5000 watt AM stations nobody could pick up. Popular for a short time, they've now come full circle: marginal and irrelevant.

44 -- in the way the MSM never had the guts to -- has publicly called them out as the bigots they are. Politicians now fly their hate banner at their own risk. Significantly, by far the most effective ad O ran was the one featuring Rush's over-the-top anti-Latino ("Send 'em back to Mexico") rant. Rush will no doubt continue to take Obama's bait and say more hateful things BHO's party can put in opposition ads. By electing 44, the American people made clear that the days of the broadcast hatemongers are nearly over.

The GOP needs to make Powell or Steele the face of the party, not el Rush-bo.

Rush's voice "may well get stronger with the GOP out of power" -- and louder -- but nobody, except fellow hatemongers, will be really listening.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 27, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame Obama mentioned Limbaugh at all, because it gave a basically irrelevant person more attention than he deserves. Limbaugh is a noise maker, a cheer leader, a director of the choir. He does nothing to expand the Republican or conservative base. He and his followers love to declare what a huge share of the radio market he enjoys, but the fact is that 93% of Americans do NOT listen to him.

Limbaugh does not have enough influence to nominate his preferred presidential candidate, let alone elect him. When McCain was nominated Limbaugh fairly gloated that he, by himself, could torpedo McCain's candidacy merely by supporting it. Because [the very necessary] center and independents hated Limbaugh so much that they would oppose McCain simply because he supported him. One might wonder whether, given the choices, Limbaugh would have preferred McCain to Obama. How smart is it, then, to be a person, and gloat over it, that actually drives away the support of the center that would be required to help your own interest?

I know I'm not the only former Limbaugh fan who long since gave up on him (I saw the light as early as 1993). There are plenty of Conservative commentators to enlighten. And to help find a better product, and package and market it more effectively. We can do better than Limbaugh. Obama should have given Limbaugh his due: totally ignore him.

Posted by: Shelama | January 27, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh the New Face of the GOP... Rush Limbaugh is the reason I am now an independent. Extremism on both sides is tearing the country apart.

Posted by: notsoandso1 | January 27, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

who cares what a country like Israel does about Terrorists? are we supposed to be like them?
the answer is obviously NO.
Americans should take the path that suits US, suits OUR country not emulate others. So what they have successful interrogations? so what? they are also a morally questionable country.. I hope we never ever stoop to their level in anything we do.

or stoop to any other countries methods.

we are the greatest country in history so why not act like it?
so we chose a path of higher ground . say we choose to NOT torture in any way. we certainly have the moral high ground in that path.

we should act like the greatest country that we are.


Posted by: ConservativeCEO | January 27, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Please say it is true... He and Sarah Palin would be the best thing that ever happened to 1.)American Comedy, 2.) Family Planning in an effort to not expose others to the poison and hillbilly life style, and 3.)Motivating people to stay in school so they don't end up uneducated like them. On the flip side, he has sibngle handedly destroyed any credibility the right hillbilly's have. Perhaps the same 7% that declared W the best president ever can move to Alaska with Limbag.

Posted by: markscoular | January 27, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Kristol is gone from the Times. A mocked failure beaten by Obama and the American people.

Limbaugh is close to the same , Imagine a raving junkie with any real power over us again.

Remember this guy is fed to all our troops. Time to pull that plug.

Lets limit his wavelength to a "First Amendment Zone" in a bush era exibit in a sub basement of the Smithsonian or maybe Leavenworth.

Posted by: bestweb3d | January 27, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I think this is great. Rush can take that hard-core, Sarah-Palin-loving, right-wing-fringe and lead them further out of power and influence.

Obama did not just win an election. His victory signals the dawn of a new era. The non-white population is going to continue to grow. The "blue state" type of thinking is in ascendance. The intolerant, racist, xenophobic, bellicose minority that Rush represents so well is shrinking and will continue to shrink.

I am proud to be an American. This is Great!

Posted by: AdrickHenry | January 27, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The past many years, I think Mr. Rush Limbaugh has always been a motivational figure to many US soldiers. He gave them hope. In the air conditioned studio, Mr. Limbaugh plays the war drum 1 year, the soldier fights the war 1,000 years to make the same paycheck while hoping to be alive. Mr. Limbaugh plays the war drum 10 years, the soldier fights the war 10,000 years to get the same bank account balance while hoping to come home someday.
At this moment, some of his listeners must be behind their mortgage payments. They should call to ask him to help them out financially. Mr. Limbaugh can easily help them, he can't eat 10 fat lobsters per meal or drive 5 Mercedes to the studio.

Posted by: scooterlibre | January 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

As a Democrat, I am quite content to have Rush Limbaugh as the preeminent spokesman for the Republican Party.

Posted by: nodebris | January 27, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Rather than Limbaugh being the face of the GOP, I'd suspect the other end of his torso would be a more apt description.

- Arye Michael Bender -

Posted by: AryeDirect | January 27, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh is proof you don't have to be intelligent or good looking to be successful in America.

Posted by: ebabin | January 27, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

God I hope not. As a Republican, it steams me that he is even linked to the party. We need more William F. Buckleys, Newt Gingriches, e.g. someone who foments an intellectual movement within the party, engages in polite and honest debate, and brings new ideas. Most importantly, we need a message of inclusion - that we represent all races, income levels, etc. What we don't need is an entertainer with no intellectual credentials whatsoever, who speaks from both sides of his mouth and resorts to name-calling when he doesn't get his way. Rush is the ultimate playground bully - immature to the core, vengeful and petty.

Posted by: vjld | January 27, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I won't be the first - or last - to say this, but isn't it bizarre that a former McCain adviser is saying that PALIN does not represent the voice of the Republican Party? She was elected as VP candidate by Republican delegates!

Posted by: JohnJay60 | January 27, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I am curious why Rush has such power and a following amongst so called conservatives. All he tends to spout is negativity which does nothing good for our country.
in addition there is one factor I am surprised I do not hear about.

Rush is a drug addict. no matter that they are pain killers, he is a law breaking drug addict. He likely still has his illegal housekeeper smuggle in his drugs from south America..

pardon me, but do we not usually put people in jail who do that?

perhaps, since our party is now being represented by a known drug addict and a liar, this might explain why our party is in disarray.

perhaps juts perhaps we might find a honest man, or woman with intelligence and some honor to represent the GOP instead of a drug addict I think we can put this country on the right track

Posted by: ConservativeCEO | January 27, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

If Republicans had listened to Rush Limbaugh, they would still be in power.

Posted by: martha5 | January 27, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama, scared of a marginal radio host who is a pill head and a liar? Doubt it! Sounds a little like the pathetic playground bully trying to get the cool kid's attention.

Posted by: ck232 | January 27, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

bsimon writes: "Depends on Limbaugh's motivations. Is he driven by market share and personal enrichment, or is he driven by improving the country we live in?"

I think it's pretty obvious he's driven by market share and personal enrichment, although he'll certainly argue it's for the good of the country. Interesting that John Weaver, a McCain ally, is concerned about repubs being represented by folks like Limbaugh and Palin. The problem with what remains of the repub party is that outside of maybe, two senators from Maine, there is no more center/right - just the right wing. Limbaugh plays to that audience and benefits from that audience. My advice...let Limbaugh bloviate and show himself to be the fool he is. Obama won - he can ignore him.

Posted by: -pamela | January 27, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The 'Old' face of the Republican party. Angry fat old white men who thrive on fear, hatred and division. Heart problems, obesity problems even erectile dysfunction problems. No surprise that they're angry. He's a poster boy for why Republicans are an endangered species.

Posted by: thebobbob | January 27, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Limbaugh is not the new face of Republican party but has been a mouthpiece for their bankrupt ideas for many years. Hope Republicans look in a new direction for leadership. Their party and the country does not need any more of his.

Posted by: Hoffmann1 | January 27, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

For one thing, there's nothing new about Rush Limbaugh. There's no way he could become the "new" face of anything. If his face is the face of the Republican party, he stands as proof that the Republican party hasn't learned anything from its history of policy and political failure.

Rush is the face of polarization and division, of uncompromising, ineducable dogmatism, and of the ruthlessness once characterized by the politician who invented the so-called "free speech zone." Rush is the face of the Republican party that can't be trusted to do business in good faith.

If this is the new face of the Republican party, then they haven't been punished enough to learn yet.

Posted by: lonquest | January 27, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"I thought that the President's comments to the Republican leadership about Limbaugh was really telling them that he was willing to talk to them, perhaps some negotiation, and in exchange he would expect them to deal honestly and not adopt extremist positions to placate the Dittoheads. It was merely that they would be better served thinking for themselves.

Posted by: BookGuy | January 27, 2009 12:57 PM"

You know that. I know that.

The dittoheads, though, are scared of change & want an enemy. Rush gives them that. And, they will continue to be willfully ignorant, because it is comforting for them to just think what they're told.

Posted by: maureenn | January 27, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

President Obama should listen to Rush Limbaugh...and then do the exact opposite of what that doofus says.

Posted by: tracyandreen | January 27, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

A few things, Mr. Cillizza:

First and foremost, you are the one assigning all this credibility to Mr. Limbaugh. I can see where it is in your interest to fuel your discussion with a story like this, but I highly doubt the Obama team cares all that much about Limbaugh. Considering Rush's past troubles, I hardly think he would enjoy standing up to the personal scrutiny that he subjects others too. And Obama has far bigger fish to fry.

As for Limbaugh's comment that Obama is allegedly more frightened (yeah, right) of him than McConnell and Boehner...if true, it is more illustrative about the lack of GOP leadership than anything else.

Personally, I would love to see the politics of Rush become the mantra of the GOP.

Why?

Because Rush doesn't attract any moderates or independents. He speaks to the hard-core, intolerant base of his party. One never hears divergent views on the Limbaugh show, just assenting ditto-heads.

Mr. Limbaugh is simply a shrill entertainer who has found hs pitch and brand. If the GOP finds that, in times like these, the best strategy is polarization and divisiveness, they will go the way of the Whig Party.

So Rush, do your thing. If the GOP embraces you....may they become forever marginalized as the party of dividers.

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com

Posted by: scootmandubious | January 27, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Rush has every right to speak his mind and in this case he has it right. He IS more influential than McConnell or Boehner. He DOES speak what most Republicans believe. If the GOP had any sense they would nominate him for office.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | January 27, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"Democrats are even Limbaugh to raise money."

I think you mean, "Democrats are even USING Limbaugh to raise money."

If it is true that Limbaugh is helping the Democrats raise money and to expand political gains, I find myself for the first time saying "Mega Dittos Rush. Keep that pie hole flapping."

Posted by: brigham_in_Houston | January 27, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

For the sake of the Republican Party and the country in general, I hope the answer is no.

Limbaugh holds no formal position with the Republican Party, or within the government. Nobody elected him. He's not accountable to anyone. He's rewarded for getting peoples' attention, not for being correct or for making the country a better place.

And that's why he's a terrible face for the GOP. Any party represented primarily by an entertainer or pundit is in trouble. Earlier this decade, Republicans pretended that Michael Moore was the face of the Democratic Party. Moore's antics caused far more harm than good to the Democrats, and Limbaugh would do the same to the Republicans. I hope someone qualified steps in as the face of the GOP, or they're in serious trouble.

Posted by: Blarg | January 27, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I hope Rush is the face of the Republican Party. For the most part he fits the mold:

Too old, too white, too male, too southern, too religious, too anti women, too anti health care, too anti women's rights, too anti environment, too anti workers, too anti re-building of this once great country, etc.

So go ahead Rush. All the new Democratic voters will not think well of you at all. You just might be the one to destroy the once good GOP.

Posted by: DownriverDem | January 27, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

If the republicans and the mouthbreathers who listen to Limbfat want to continue to take their marching orders from him, good. That will take care of 2010 for us, at least. I guess they figure that a shrinking GOP base is the way to go...

Posted by: LABC | January 27, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I thought that the President's comments to the Republican leadership about Limbaugh was really telling them that he was willing to talk to them, perhaps some negotiation, and in exchange he would expect them to deal honestly and not adopt extremist positions to placate the Dittoheads. It was merely that they would be better served thinking for themselves.

Posted by: BookGuy | January 27, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The Fix writes
"Limbaugh isn't going anywhere any time soon. And his voice -- and influence -- may well get stronger with the GOP out of power. Is that a good thing or a bad thing for Republicans?"

Depends on Limbaugh's motivations. Is he driven by market share and personal enrichment, or is he driven by improving the country we live in? As an entertainer, he is in the business of attracting an audience to whom he can deliver advertisements that generate revenue for him.

Perhaps the bigger danger for the GOP is that the moderate voters do not seem to overlap with the demographic that listens to Limbaugh. If Limbaugh is the new face of the GOP, it does not seem like they will have an effective method of attracting new voters to the party - which means they'll continue to lose elections in the majority of the country. Limbaugh preaches to the choir. The GOP needs to get out of the church & attract new converts if they want to grow.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 27, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbo is a fascist.

Always has been....always will be.

Posted by: toritto | January 27, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

At least Rush Limbaugh calls a Spade a Spade - on National Security.. if nothing else...

So let's review the untouchable subject "hypnotic induction" and why Israel has the most scientific database on Iran Nuclear Strategic Project....

There are different methods of criminal investigation whereas government can learn a great deal about captives in war. In Islam and "defacto governments", the main method is inhuman - "torture and slaughter"....

However, for years now - in Israel, "hypnotic induction" of prisoners have proven to be the most effective process and criminal operation; thanks to the most informative database and scientific covert operation in the world, also in times of war. It is said that Saddam Hussein confessed - under hypnosis - to the information that Iraq possessed WMD based on leaks from Saddam himself.

So here is the question: Do you really believe that President Obama thinks "Hypnotic Induction" of terrorists and criminals are "cruel and unusual " torture? If not, where is President Obama coming from ?

Now that the Liberal Press is enamored with President Obama, shouldn't we ask Rush Limbaugh ?

Posted by: hasinc67 | January 27, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

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