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Obama and the Gore-acle To Meet

The news that President-elect Barack Obama will huddle with the man who used to be the next president of the United States -- Al "The Goreacle" Gore -- has set tongues a-flapping in Washington about the possibility that the former Tennessee Senator might join the new Administration in some sort of role.

According to guidance provided by the Obama transition team, the focus of tomorrow's meeting will be "energy and climate change and how policies in this area can stimulate the economy and create jobs." Um, boring.

Our understanding is that there are no plans to discuss a potential job for Gore, but a boy can dream, right?

Take our poll below to choose the best place for Gore in an Obama Administration.

By Chris Cillizza  |  December 8, 2008; 6:00 PM ET
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I am sure Mr. Gore will get some kind of post doing something. Just look at the posts Mr. Obama is filling and has filled; Clinton administration cronies and generally speaking, a lot of Washington veterans.

Where is the change we were looking for? Oh, and for the record, there have been quite a few recorded volcanic eruptions that have produced more 'pollution' in the atmosphere in one occurence than all human generated CO2 ever created. Ever.

Posted by: Professor_Arkham | December 9, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for all the tools suckered into the green scam. It is not about reducing CO2 it is about transferring wealth to China, India and developing countries. Listen to the talks, the focus and their proposals.

The scientific models are very poor and they are not panning out. The hottest recent year is still 1998 and it looks like 2008 will be the coldest year of the decade yet all they can say is “you need to look at longer term trends.” If I used modeling like the IPCC in a college science project I would receive an F.

Hopefully we stay in a solar minimum so that temperatures cool and people see the scam for what it really is before it is too late. “Climate change” legislation will decimate the US and Europe’s economies to give to China and India. I especially love how democrats so angry with China are the biggest suckers.

The Bali talks are already turning into "the US and Europe need to provide the funds and technology to help the developing countries cope." I feel sorry for people that can't see this for what it is.

Posted by: Cryos | December 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Without nuclear power, it is generally believed to be impossible to replace the current conventional power plant (which consist of 50% of total power generation in US) by using renewable energy in ten years as Al Gore proposed early for CO2 reduction . Even if the US can achieved total elimination of CO2 in the atmosphere, the polluted air particle due to large scale of coal burning in China, Japan, Russia can always move over the Pacific and reached above the US .

Posted by: ypcchiu | December 9, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

What is this ridiculous 'Gore-acle' word you keep using? I have nothing against the former Vice-President, but I do not understand in what sense you are trying to characterize him as an 'oracle.'

I guess it made a distant sort of sense way back when everyone was waiting to see if he made an endorsement during the Democratic Presidential primary. As in, he would be an oracle of who might win the nomination. But that ship has long, long since sailed and now it just sounds kinda stupid when you write the word 'Gore-acle.'

Posted by: JacksonLanders | December 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

armpeg, it seems to me that you're the one who lacks credibility on the subject. not only do you display an amateurish understanding of climate science, at best, but you also discount decades of global climate change research just because you dislike the conclusions.

become better informed before you pop off at the mouth.

Posted by: Route1 | December 9, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

it just kills you entrenched washington gossip queens that al gore continues to be a much-admired figure, doesn't it. how else to explain the mockery implicit in 'the goreacle' tag that chrissie applies.

snicker, snicker.

Posted by: mycomment | December 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Gore for Interior Secretary!

Posted by: kmcnyasha | December 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

armpeg wrote:
Only morons believe that man causes global warming.

"Siegfried Frederick Singer, Professor Emeritus of environmental science at the University of Virginia has been a consultant to the House Select Committee on Space, NASA, GAO, NSF, AEC, NRC, DOD (Strategic Defense Initiative), US DOE Nuclear Waste Panel, the US Treasury, and the state governments of Virginia, Alaska, and Pennsylvania, and to various industries including GE, Ford, GM, Exxon, Shell, Sun Oil, Lockheed Martin and IBM."

REPEAT " various industries including GE, Ford, GM, Exxon, Shell, Sun Oil, Lockheed Martin, and IBM."

As I said ealier "And no one can come up with a consensus because the "smart" people are simply enjoying their wallets being padded with the corporate handouts that more than likely came from the taxpayer in the first place."

armpeg, try listing someone who doesn't have a vested interest in lining his pockets with money from someone who isn't making money by destroying the earth.

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | December 9, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for some global warming, it's way too cold here for December!

Posted by: ronjaboy | December 9, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

geez! Chris Cillizza is just ‘blogging’, you all need to lighten up, if you don't like it then don't read it! this is a good short blurb.

Posted by: b_a_o_g | December 9, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"Um, boring."

The thing that amazes me is that you don't realize what a reflection that comment is on YOU.

Even if there's a little irony buried in there somewhere, sheesh, how superficial can one person be?

And I always thought Robin Givhan was assigned that niche at the Post.

Posted by: bcamarda2 | December 9, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: timebanded | December 9, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

Come on Chris! Regardless of the subject, this kind of irrelevant and prejudicial baloney:
"Obama and the Gore-acle To Meet"
is not responsible journalism.

I'm sure you'll get the exact kind of comments you expected and advertised for...

I'm USED to seeing this kind of headline here in China where I'm living this year...
But I hate to see it in the US press.

Posted by: terryking228 | December 9, 2008 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Only morons believe that man causes global warming. The fact is that we've had natural cycles of warmings and coolings going back to when man lived in caves drawing pictures on the walls. Right now, according to Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia and former director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Services who has been debunking all of these sky-is-falling myths of Gore's, we're seeing a warming of about one-tenth of a degree centigrade per decade, or roughly a degree per century. Even if a man-made global warming did exist, it's actually a good thing. What has not been good in past climate changes was when we had ice ages and freezing cold climate when nothing grew, everything died and we had famine, plaques of disease, and massive starvation. Warm climates and warm periods have always been good for people. Gore and his ahole clique of followers are like Jim Jones, or Charles Manson. They need to be put away in some institution for their own good so that they won't hurt themselves and others.

Posted by: armpeg | December 8, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

"According to guidance provided by the Obama transition team, the focus of tomorrow's meeting will be 'energy and climate change and how policies in this area can stimulate the economy and create jobs.' Um, boring."

No, not "boring." This is why we elect one politician rather than another: because of the policies that they intend to carry out. This is why elections matter, particularly in a time of economic crisis. They are not a game designed for your entertainment, even if you and many other journalists insist on treating them that way, with shallow "horse race" coverage that ignores the issues.

Posted by: lydgate | December 8, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Officer Mancuso wrote:

"If you can explain to me why it was wrong for the USA to resist Ho Chi Minh I'd be much obliged."

I and John McCain both believe that the definitive works about VietNam are the collected writings of Bernard Fall. From those books, McC draws a similar conclusion to yours. I draw a different one.

Ho was not interested in Chinese hegemony but in VN independence, from France, from China, from us. The Michelin plantations remained open for capitalist business during Ho's rule; he was nothing if not a pragmatist. The succession of rulers in Saigon whom we backed were corrupt and unworthy. The RVN could or would not hold territory we took b/c they did not care.
We would have required more than a million troops to hold the south without active help from the RVN.

We misread the situation in the light of the Cold War. We thought Ho was a stalking horse for China. In fact, Ho would have been an indie commie, playing both sides against the middle for the survival of an indie VN, something like Tito, if we had made overtures to him.

Anyway, that's how I read it after the fact - not before I entered Navy OCS in 1968.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | December 8, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Toritto, point well made. I remember visiting Yosemite in the 1960's. Then in the 1970's. Then in the 1990's. In the '90's there were people sleeping on top of bathrooms, and campgrounds were patrolled by squad cars as though it were north Philadelphia.

I'm not sure how to regulate human fertility, but I'm sure that it's out of control.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 8, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Things I find interesting:

The population of the earth is estimated to have been 200 million when Christ was born.

The population of the earth is estimated to have been 310 million when Charlemagne was crowned in the year 1000.

The population of the earth didnt pass 1 billion until after the year 1800.

The population of the earth when I was a kid in 1950 was 2.5 billion.

The population of the earch reached 6.1 billion in 20000.

The population of the earth reached 6.454 billion in 2005.

Total population has more than doubled in my lifetime. In the last five years we have added more population to the total than the entire population of earth in the year 1,000.

The idea that we can continue to grow in numbers as we have been and all aspire to an ever higher standard of living is suspect on its face. You don't need to be a scientist or an economist to figure it out.

The idea that for the last 250 we have pumped ever increasing amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere through industrialization and the automobile and that we can continue to do so without any consequences is suspect on its face. The idea that ever more people on this planet can do so is truly suspect on its face.

What me worry? I'm old enough that the planet wont get too hot nor will the oil run out for the remainder of my life span.


Posted by: toritto | December 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

My goodness, you must really have a hard time filling up a day and a newspaper for this sort of speculative rubbish.

Why in hell wouldn't he talk with a Nobel winner about the weather or whatever (there is a haiku in the making) as the guy who is going to have to deal with that stuff???

The wrong people are unemployed.

Posted by: rpmcestmoicoxnet | December 8, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Does it really matter?

Some of the comments we can see right here demonstrate how completely out of wack our world is.

The fact is we can see increases of cancers around our world; children experiencing increases of autism, ADHD, asthma, and allergies; the foods we eat that have been altered to extend shelf life and increase harvests with whatever side effects that may occur, we don't know yet; and major cities becoming more and more crowded as people search for work creating a need for more power that the lights of these cities could probably be seen from another galaxy.

And no one can come up with a consensus because the "smart" people are simply enjoying their wallets being padded with the corporate handouts that more than likely came from the taxpayer in the first place.

And many people here blame a man who hasn't even taken the oath of office yet and found fault with because he didn't have enough experience, but yet want to blame him for 232 years of American ignorance.

God help us all!

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | December 8, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

In the past when civilizations reached their peak and dissolved, it was not a problem for the environment of the entire world. It did not involve mass extinction of species. What is happening now is evil.
We are poisoning the atmosphere and making jokes about it. When people start dying by the hundreds of millions will there still be those who will laugh and ridicule?

Posted by: seemstome | December 8, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

No time left for debate. Carbon dioxide levels are out of control. Gore should abandon his passive role and join the administration. I have no patience for those who ridicule the situation the planet is in. They should be treated like a disease and eradicated along with the carbon pollution. They are the enemy of the world and all that lives.

Posted by: seemstome | December 8, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Heaven help me, I can't resist having a go at this, from thebobbob: "They blamed the failure of the Vietnam War on the anti-war counterculture instead of accepting that they were correct, that the war was based on lies."

I took part in the Moratorium against the war (with James Leo Herlihy, author of Midnight Cowboy, in Chillicothe Ohio, as luck would have it), and to this day I don't have the time of day for people who regard the killing of students at Kent State University as a minor cost of the Viet Nam war.

That war, however, was not based on lies. It was based on the USA's committment to stop the spread of Communism in Asia. The war failed because politicians who sent men (yes, men, not women) to die there lacked the courage to make enough of a commitment to win. They were committed enough to send people to their deaths but not committed enough to risk losing elections.

If you can explain to me why it was wrong for the USA to resist Ho Chi Minh I'd be much obliged.

Similarly I'd be grateful if you could explain to me why so many good men from this country obeyed their orders and laid down their lives there. Were they really all fools, on a mission unworthy of participating in? Or were they good, honorable men who were let down by politicians?

Just askin'.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 8, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

thebobbob, wait no longer. Albert Gore Jr's mansion and private jet contribute almost as much to global warming as the hot air emanating from his and the improbably named Tipper's mouths.

"Let me fly around in my jet, and get wheeled from airport to speaking engagement in a limo, explaining why the average U.S. citizen has a duty to give up his or her car, and rely exclusively on public transit."

We have vernacular words describing men like that. Most of them aren't fit to be printed in a family newspaper.

Hope that answers your question.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 8, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post is blocking comments on the Blackwater story, and has been doing so since about 1 pm this after noon. As far as Gore, Interior Secretary is an obvious choice. Nader should be made head of EPA. the Blackwater scum bags will be pardoned by long time nazi gw bush.

Posted by: spearburning | December 8, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

It wouls be so cool to see Gore as Secretary of EPA (especially after Boxer's legislation passes making the Adminsitrator a cabinet level position)...

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | December 8, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Why hasn't the Right-wing smear machine figured out a way to blame global warming on Gore? They blamed the failure of the Vietnam War on the anti-war counterculture instead of accepting that they were correct, that the war was based on lies. They blame the failure of Bush's so called "war on terrorism" on Bush-haters who want America to fail instead of the ideologically driven neo-cons and Rumsfeld's chicken-hawk arrogance. Global warming must be the environmentalist's fault.

Posted by: thebobbob | December 8, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

GaiasChild posted a comment which concluded thus: "...presuming no greedy capitalists pump the price up three times over."

Any capitalist worth his salt, or any manager working for a capitalist doing his or her job diligently, *would* pump the price up as high as they could, unless (this is the caveat) they foresaw long-term consequences bad enough to outweigh the short-term gain - and given the current incarnation of corporate capitalism's focus on quarter-to-quarter results, it's unlikely that the caveat even applies.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 8, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I think Al Gore would make a great ambassador to Trafalmador or the Land of Oz. Maybe he could be a special ambassador to Hollywood or Disneyworld. Any place that has a huge number of stargazers and moonies.

Obama is already starting to crack.

Posted by: jstratt2 | December 8, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Okay I wanted him for Energy Secretary but I see the logic of having him independent. He might like that too. Trouble is, then what would the energy secretary do? The Energy Secretary would then be like a deputy? Nobody's got Al Gore's gravitas on the issues of how to provide energy and protect the planetary habit. Okay, if he takes that independent role then I want T. Boone Pickens for Energy Secretary.
By the way, the first person who starts distributiung the India-made Nano in this country is going to totally fix the car problem. It would be like the love affair with the first Beetle. This Nano costs 2,500 in India so even people who cannot replace their gas guzzler (such as moi) because car payment is beyond the means (sadly true), could replace it with the Nano presuming no greedy capitalists pump the price up three times over.

Posted by: GaiasChild | December 8, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Gore should maintain his present role as an independent voice of enormous stature, who can work with the best people without too much concern of how it looks politically. Obama may be wise to allow people like Gore or Steve Westly - a Cali politician-turned-green venture capitalist - to work effectively outside of Washington to spurn the green revolution (thanks Tom Friedman) that the world needs.

Posted by: KanDaShan | December 8, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I voted "nothing", but "Ambassador to Siberia" might have worked. I'm not clear what qualifies Albert Gore Jr. to speak with special authority on scientific questions, and while I'm seeking that clarity, he can study his favorite hypothesis from the shores of balmy Lake Baikal.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 8, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Gore-acle must be getting some sort of position in the new admin. Hillary got called to a similar meeting in Chicago and left with State.

Posted by: parkerfl1 | December 8, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

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