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President Obama announces his decision to relieve Gen. Stanley McChrystal of his duties as the head of the war in Afghanistan. AFP/Getty Images

President Obama's decision to relieve Gen. Stanley McChrystal of his oversight of the Afghanistan war Wednesday was painted by his allies -- and many in the media -- as a prime example of strong and decisive leadership.

"He was resolute, " said Democratic strategist Paul Begala on CNN. "He was very serious. He was very professional about it."

Michael Crowley of Time magazine called Obama's decision to fire McChrystal and recruit Gen. David Petraeus to run the Afghanistan war the "firm action of a hands-on executive."

The rave reviews for Obama as leader stand in stark contrast to the findings of an NBC/Wall Street Journal national poll -- released Tuesday night -- that suggest the ongoing oil spill is negatively affecting Obama's image in the eyes of the American people.

According to the poll, 49 percent of respondents said Obama had strong leadership qualities -- a significant erosion from the 70 percent who said the same in a January 2009 NBC/WSJ poll.

A similar trend line was apparent when people were asked whether they agreed with the idea that Obama was "firm and decisive" (44 percent now, 63 percent in January 2009) and that he has the "ability to handle crisis" (40 percent now, 46 percent in January 2009).

The impact of the oil spill on those numbers is clear from the data. More than one in five voters (22 percent) named the oil spill as the highest priority facing the country, rivaling "job creation and economic growth" (33 percent) as the top priority.

And, on the oil spill, Obama's handling of the issue is slightly more negative -- 42 percent approve, 50 percent disapprove -- than his overall job performance number, which stands at 45 percent approve/48 percent disapprove.

For Obama, then, the crisis created by McChrystal's baffling -- at best -- comments in a Rolling Stone profile actually affords something of an opportunity to bend public perception back in his favor.

The White House moved quickly to take advantage of that opportunity -- doling out details for a series of tick-tocks written by the big media organizations (including this one) that cast Obama as simultaneously deliberate and decisive.

An example: "The president didn't want to see pettiness; that this was not about personalities or reputations. It's about our men and women in uniform and about serving the country," one senior Administration official told the New York Times.

This president and his team understand that unforeseen circumstances are forever interrupting the best-laid plans of any administration. (Remember how Obama was going to spend all of his time talking about the economy? That was, of course, pre-oil spill.)

Put another way: Any successful presidency is built on making lemonade out of lemons.

The early returns on the Obama administration's attempt to do just that when it came to McChrystal are positive. But the NBC/WSJ survey suggests that the oil spill is providing a powerful counterweight as the president seeks to reassert the image of himself as a leader that helped get him elected in 2008.

By Chris Cillizza  |  June 24, 2010; 2:07 PM ET
Categories:  White House  
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Had the CIC and the General been talking to each other daily because WAR is a serious thing, (unlike Golf, basketball going out to dinner,entertaining a Beatle, even dealing with the problem in the gulf)and had they had frank knock down drag outs in private about the WAR it would never have come to this.
It does not take any talent or skill to FIRE anyone. It takes skill and talent to make one productive and loyal!

Posted by: carlossalazar | June 28, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

You only really need to know ONE thing when it come to the "O" man and his decision making.

I believe all true Americans know "it".

Posted by: pozac1 | June 25, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Sure, Obama is decisive. Obama waited only four-plus months to give McChrystal an answer when the general requested more troops for the surge in Afghanistan. Then, Obama ordered that McChrystal's request be cut about 20,000-plus troops, because, after all, Obama knows more about war than a four-star general who has dedicated his life to serving America. Sure, Obama is only four months late and, then, wrong again. Typical Obama.

Posted by: RonKH | June 25, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

General McCrystal has no battlefield expereince.

He was given a pass by President Bush on the Tillman lie (tell me who is the moron).

McCrystal is known to drink too much, and no doubt in front of a Rolling Stone reporter (moronic).

He is not regarded well among the "joes" since he dines in France frequently and takes the fast food away from them.

In additon he was getting his ass kicked by the Taliban.

Good move Mr. President!!!!

Posted by: Duffey | June 25, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Moron: Offensive term; a former term for somebody with significant learning difficulties and impaired social skills, now considered offensive. Mmmm – pot calling the kettle black? One is President of the United States; and one is, well, nothing really pferd. One is running the entire United States, and one is blogging. Need I say more?

Posted by: julieforBarack | June 25, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

NOTHING WILL HELP THIS MORON PRESIDENT.

HE CAN TRY TO BLAME EVERYBODY ELSE, LIKE HE HAS BEEN DOING SINCE HE CAME IN AS "PRESIDENT", WHICH IS A JOKE.

MORON OBAMA IS WHAT I CALL HIM AND NOT PRESIDENT. WHAT A JOKE HE IS.
HE IS A MORON

Posted by: pferd | June 24, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse
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Such eloquent brilliant analyst, boy he should be on FOX being part of that elite, unique group of fanatics and Obama's haters.I guess they were so used hearing Bush's half English that they can't understand a highly intelligent man.

Posted by: postDC | June 25, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse


How do you spin into positive poll numbers that Obama's leadership skills are so weak that his own hand-picked, hand-puppet general laughed at him behind his back?

Maybe his blowing the oil spill clean-up, his name coming up in the Blago corruption trial, the re-runs ref his land deal with a convicted felon, his failure to deal with Iran, his outrageous takeover of the health care industry, his raping of private investors for the sake of his union cronies and his fat-behind wife picking on chubby kids may help his ratings, but this won't.

Posted by: JCM-51 | June 25, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I do not believe that so many think the president is responsible for all the troubles you are having. As a canuck looking in, it certainly looks like he has done a number of things. Certainly the health care which as the "best country on earth" should have is a major accomplishment. You may not see it now but in time you will raalize how it will help all Americans feel more confident and indendant. Not have to worry about lossing a job and the medical ins that comes with it. You cannot imagine the freedom one has to be able to go to any doctor at any time and not have to pay a dime ($.10 cdn).
The racist nature of all the blame for the oil spill and the economy is evident.
I think the fear is that he will succeed and maybe get re-elected. Though Americans don't often re-elect a good leader. They prefer the wisdom of the Bushes and Reagans!! Kennedy (John) would have lost the next election.

Posted by: fransh | June 25, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Has the POTUS had continuity, or commitment, on policy, once in office, on anything he promised during his campaign? The man is Jello! The latest news isn't so much McChrystal and staff's gaffes in Rolling Stone, but that military personnel feel this way about Obama and his co-horts, to begin with. There seems to be no respect for the man, or his leadership team. Mr. Teleprompter, i.e., talking head!

Posted by: roanns | June 25, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Gimme a break! What can Obama as President do here? The government doesn't have the equipment nor the technological expertise to fix the leak on its own.

He did manage to get BP to pony up the $20 billion as an initial reparation fund and he's monitored the situation closely.

What else can we expect him to do?

Any suggestions, Right Wingers? What exactly is he NOT doing at the moment that should be done?

Posted by: MT_Guy | June 25, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes, according the Media, Obama's decision was "brilliant" among other things....sorry, but to most informed Americans, it was necessary, not brilliant. The military is about Chain of Command and insubordination is not accepted under any circumstances.

Petraeus (the maligned general whom Sen. Hillary Clinton told she must "suspend disbelief" during his testimony to Congress and the the media titled "General Betray Us" was the best choice, the only choice and therefore, not a "brilliant" choice.

What is "brilliant" is that this general cares more about his country and his troops then he does about the politicial hypocrisy of the Democrats and Media who now use his appointment as material to bolster their man's falling poll numbers.

Posted by: LMW6 | June 25, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

To say that the contribution to Obama from the oil company didn't cost this country anything, think again, it's cost this country plenty. President Obama was elected. Now this country is in ruins and if something isn't done soon we will no longer have the USA to call OUR country. It's not only the oil company's huge contribution, it's everyone that contributed such large amounts (especially the hollywood crowd and the left extremist in the media that are also guilty and should be held accountable for the fall of this country.
This is one thing that you can't blame Bush for because I can bet you one thing, George didn't contribute one cent to the Obama's campaign.

Posted by: wild3002 | June 25, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

McCrystal resigned...the General decided.
Posted by: jobro2 | June 25, 2010 8:23 AM |
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Actually, that is not necessarily true. See, in politics, when someone suddenly "resigns" that usally means that the person is being asked to leave but is being given the opportunity to feign as though it is her/his own decision. It allows the individiual to save face if you will. Given the circumstances here, I doubt very much that McChrystal had any choice.

Posted by: HotArdienteBoricua | June 25, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

TO: sarasota1 who wrote:
“I could really care less if this general got fired… BP was one of Obama's largest campaingn contributors…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s strange, you didnt care at all and no reservation about putting 2 oil men in the white house who subsequently invaded the 2nd largest oil rich nation in the world and you didn’t even flutter.

Now, all of the sudden you’re concerned about a campaign contribution?

A campaign contribution didn’t cost this country one red cent, but the Lie called The War In Iraq cost this country plenty.

Honey, you obviously don’t even have a clue of what you’re talking about.

If, and I mean IF BP contributed money to anybody’s campaign, you still can’t attach the Gulf Oil Spill to a campaign contribution.

BP probably contributed to Bobby Jindal’s campaign to, but you don’t mention that at all.


TO: 37thand0street who wrote:
IF YOU WATCH THE BLAGO TRIAL IN CHICAGO - YOU JUST MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TRULY BEEN BEHIND OBAMA'S STUNT THIS WEEK.

^^^^^^^^^^

I’d rather watch my cat cough up hair balls and then blame that on the President.

Posted by: lindalovejones | June 25, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

TO: sarasota1 who wrote:
“I could really care less if this general got fired… BP was one of Obama's largest campaingn contributors…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s strange, you didnt care at all and no reservation about putting 2 oil men in the white house who subsequently invaded the 2nd largest oil rich nation in the world and you didn’t even flutter.

Now, all of the sudden you’re concerned about a campaign contribution?

A campaign contribution didn’t cost this country one red cent, but the Lie called The War In Iraq cost this country plenty.

Honey, you obviously don’t even have a clue of what you’re talking about.

If, and I mean IF BP contributed money to anybody’s campaign, you still can’t attach the Gulf Oil Spill to a campaign contribution.

BP probably contributed to Bobby Jindal’s campaign to, but you don’t mention that at all.


TO: 37thand0street who wrote:
IF YOU WATCH THE BLAGO TRIAL IN CHICAGO - YOU JUST MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TRULY BEEN BEHIND OBAMA'S STUNT THIS WEEK.

^^^^^^^^^^

I’d rather watch my cat cough up hair balls and then blame that on the President.

Posted by: lindalovejones | June 25, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I could really care less if this general got fired. It is all just a diversion from the real problems this country faces; Rising deficits, economic collapse, and now the Eco-disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
The man that occupies the White House is a puppet of the Globalist Elites. And by the way BP was one of Obama's largest campaingn contributors. The whole power structure in Washington, needs to be flushed, like the sewage it is!!

Posted by: sarasota1 | June 25, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Under the UCMJ a military member can not express anything negative towards the president or the staff. This is called insubordination. If our higher ups express negative towards the president then it can trickle down and cause some serious problem.

Posted by: schmitzb | June 25, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Help Obama in the polls? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You're kidding, right? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm on the floor and I can't get up! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nothing is going to help Obama! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Obama is toast! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The whole Obama administration is a joke! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! They don't know how to do anything right! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't wait until November! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't wait until 2012! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: georges2 | June 25, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

boo hoo whiny baby rightwingers crying because their bigmouth general got canned. Newsflash-- he deserved it.

racist swill.

Posted by: drindl | June 25, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

boo hoo whiny baby rightwingers crying because their bigmouth general got canned. Newsflash-- he deserved it.

Posted by: drindl | June 25, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

McCrystal resigned...the General decided.

Posted by: jobro2 | June 25, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Giving credit to Obama for his decisiveness in this matter is ridiculous. He's thin-skinned. He couldn't take the criticism, and the chain of command was conveniently in place. The only other decisive decision he's made was to attack a white Cambridge policeman without evidence.

Posted by: jobro2 | June 25, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Obama may sound very strong and decisive with his decision to get rid of his general. But how would he answer the issues raised by McChrystal. It is quite easy to fire an officer but why could Obama not answer his general with some good repartee instead of firing.
Then Gin, how would Obama tell his people about billions of dollars he is doling out to Pakistan without any real help from them. Is it a wise policy to spend such money on an ill deserving partner. Same with money spent in bribing Taliban and cahoots in Afghanistan to have a few pieces of his aid fall into the right hands there.
I think, to alleviate common folks from economic downturn Obama should cut the chase, get rid of all this foreign aid to Pakistan and Taliban and company. Spend this money wisely at home and provide help to hundreds of thousands of suffering Americans from joblessness, homelessness and despair. Why should Americans have to loose their homes and jobs when at the same time Obama is funding Pakistani army and bureaucracy and politicians? Why do we choose to ignore our own people and keep bribing the thugs and dictators of the world? Mr. Obama we deserve an answer from you on this score and urge you to stop funding Pakistan. We have seen this go on for such a long time and still we are no closer to capturing Osama Bin Laden and eliminating Taliban. Now we are creating another monster Pakistan that is the hot spot of terrorism and creator of terrorists. Obama, are you going to wake up when Pakistani terrorists will come knocking at your door and you won't have time to respond? Remember, Pakistani ISI, military and terrorists have their finger on the nuclear button and China is going to build two more nuclear reactors. So what are you waiting for? For doomsday? Promise us that you will stop such nuisance and such devastating funding. With our own money they will nuke us, bomb us and kill our civilians. It's like Nero will play flute while the Rome burns. Is that what you want, Mr. Obama?

Posted by: udayagnihotri | June 25, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Generals have the right to express their views, eapecially when they are convinced that the politicians harm the national interests but then they have to resign and act as civilians. These are the rules of democracy. Of course, sometimes political decisions are influenced by irrelevant motives (the impact of the oil spill etc). If it is the case - every citizen has the opportunity and the right to fire these politicians once in every four years.

Posted by: jos45 | June 25, 2010 4:43 AM | Report abuse

Generals have the right to express their views, eapecially when they are convinced that the politicians harm the national interests but then they have to resign and act as civilians. These are the rules of democracy. Of course, sometimes political decisions are influenced by irrelevant motives (the impact of the oil spill etc). If it is the case - every citizen has the opportunity and the right to fire these politicians once in every four years.

Posted by: jos45 | June 25, 2010 4:41 AM | Report abuse

As I recall, McChrystal was whose appointee?

Cillizza is no more than a cheerleaders for Comrade Obama... perhaps he's angling for Goebbels job down the line.

HEADLINE: Obama successfully remembers to wipe his butt BEFORE pulling up his trousers! Poll numbers soar!

Posted by: rethman | June 25, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Well, folks. Not surprisingly, 37th and ZERO has thrown down the gauntlet. [Yeah yeah yeah, pointing out that you're a glassbowl* makes me a RACIST. Grow up.] It'll take an IT person at the Post about 15 seconds to nuke the new 37th and however many

If Neo can take down Agents Smith, the Post can nuke this gnat. As was the case with Jake, the moment it was called on the carpet, it went off the range. Let's see if they're up to the challenge.

*Thank you Carolyn Hax.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 24, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

This article is beyond stupid - the gushy comments of the liberal media are stupifyingly patronizing and reveal their awareness of just how incompetent Obama is. As a wise person once said, false praise is worse than no praise.

Posted by: vh1422 | June 24, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

This article is beyond stupid - the gushy comments of the liberal media are stupifyingly patronizing and reveal their awareness of just how incompetent Obama is. As a wise person once said, false praise is worse than no praise.

Posted by: vh1422 | June 24, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I thought I was going to lose my lunch when I saw that headline about firing the General could help raise Obama's dropping poll numbers. Meanwhile the economy slips deeper into the crapper, the Gulf oozes, our border is overrun, but the Democrats think they have hit the lottery because Obama fired a washed up General. No wonder other countries laugh at America, they had heard the rumors that ANYBODY could be President, but just thought that was an exaggerated term used by the media, then Barry Hussien got elected and finally Europe had someone new to laugh about, as compared to Obama, Borris Yeltsin was a political Einstein. November can't come soon enough for me, hopefully the voters of America realize what hope and change really means. It means after paying all the new taxes Barry Hussien has piled on us, we can only hope we have a little change left in our pocket.

Posted by: CanIpulltheswitch | June 24, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA McCHRYSTAL CRISIS SHOWS MILITARY ROGUES WHO'S IN CHARGE

• Command performance reasserts civilian control of the Pentagon, revives a foundering presidency.

http://nowpublic.com/world/obama-mcchrystal-crisis-shows-military-rogues-whos-charge

BUT WHEN WILL OBAMA STOP GOV'T SILENT MICROWAVE TORTURE AND IMPAIRMENT OF EXTRAJUDICIALLY 'TARGETED' AMERICANS -- A GENOCIDAL PURGE THAT MAY HAVE POLITICAL LEADERS IN ITS SIGHTS?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
NowPublic.com/scrivener OR Facebook -- Vic Livingston ("Notes")

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 24, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA McCHRYSTAL CRISIS SHOWS MILITARY ROGUES WHO'S IN CHARGE

• Command performance reasserts civilian control of the Pentagon, revives a foundering presidency.

http://nowpublic.com/world/obama-mcchrystal-crisis-shows-military-rogues-whos-charge

BUT WHEN WILL OBAMA STOP GOV'T SILENT MICROWAVE TORTURE AND IMPAIRMENT OF EXTRAJUDICIALLY 'TARGETED' AMERICANS -- A GENOCIDAL PURGE THAT MAY HAVE POLITICAL LEADERS IN ITS SIGHTS?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
NowPublic.com/scrivener OR Facebook -- Vic Livingston ("Notes")

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 24, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

While I think removing McCh was not "required", but it was "{invited":

1] In the free exchange of ideas that BHO encouraged, McCh's won out, so the group castigating of aspersions on the ideas of those who disagreed with them might have been welcome in the counsels of power, BUT

2] personal criticisms of the team to a muckraking music mag over drinks in Paris was, oh, unprofessional; and

3] no general is indispensable.

McCh served his country well in the field, but not with the press and not when his staff was drinking. Was he like Grant, the only viable option? No. He truly manned up, made no excuses, knew he had screwed the pooch, made no excuses, and I thank him for his service and wish him well. If I were Prez, I would have removed him, too, and with regrets.


Posted by: mark_in_austin | June 24, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

IT IS VERY SAD that an article in unreliable magazine with Lady Gaga on a cover and some references to the military personnel with the bad language as a norm can produce a result of such a scale. Obama should wonder who and why made an order for this article to be written???

Posted by: elhaver | June 24, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Brigade


As far as I am concerned, they are all acting like a bunch of children.

Sad - quite sad.


I saw names on here that haven't been here in a long, long time - all threatening to leave if they didn't get their way.


It is an organized group - they email each other talking points - it could be moveon.org or OFA Organizing for America.

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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Brigade

They are all totally insane.


I wasn't here today under 7 or 8 names.

As soon as I left, they started seeing me all over the place.

It was like they were hearing voices - seeing 37th all over the place.

Yea, they are all loony. It actually is hilarious.

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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Hydra-troll


Very creative - that one isn't bad.

12Bar - come back - there is no one over at Ezra's -


Stay here -

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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Looks like all the liberals who like spirited debates and an exchange of ideas have run off in search of an echo chamber. Or maybe the new revelations about Al Gore's crank yanking episode has just upset them so much they went to bed.

I guess you'd have to ban all conservatives and moderates to please the liberal defenders of all things tolerant.

Posted by: Brigade | June 24, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

This is way too crazy. The fake 37 posting anti-BHO dung under 8 different names, 24/7.

Enjoy your hydra-troll, Fix. All the best.

Out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

And besides, zouk, why would you care if I went away? Seems like that's good for "your side".

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:15 PM
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But 12BarBlues, you're a conservative, remember? Pro-life and all that. You just act like a liberal and drift from one left-wing site to the next for kicks. If you were really a liberal, surely a 15 to 1 ratio in favor of your compatriot posters would be enough to protect you from the mean ole Republicans here and keep you from picking up your marbles and running off to ole Ezra's.

Posted by: Brigade | June 24, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

The general had to go. Next will be the Dems in Congress, and then the Commander in Chief. They all have to go.

By the time this Afghanistan adventure is over, Bush's Iraq war is going to look like a roaring success. Where's Cindy Sheehan? Where's Code Pink? Where's Komrad Kerry asking about the last man who wants to die for a lost cause?

Bin Laden is gone from Afghanistan. Al Queda is gone from Afghanistan. The Taliban has been removed from power---they aren't go to leave the country, they live there. But we need to protect the interests of the poppy growers in Afghanistan while Iran develops nukes.

Who was once General Betray-Us to the left, is now the knight in shining armor who's going to save Obama's foreign policy. Frankly, I doubt that the new guy thinks any more of Obama and Biden than the old guy, but hopefully he'll keep his mouth shut about it. As for the foreign policy, I'm afraid it's a lost cause---like Obama's presidency.

Posted by: Brigade | June 24, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Watch Ezra Klein explain it on Rachel Maddow's show on msnbc.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 6:53 PM
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LOL. That's where all pro-life conservatives go to get their news. Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: Brigade | June 24, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Reacting to a few stray comments in a stoner magazine is not leadership.

It is ridiculous.


Obama is cracking under the pressure -


The pressure from the oil spill

The pressure from his failed stimulus.


The pressure from his name being mentioned all over the Blago trial


Obama can not take it

Obama is inexperienced and completely lacking in qualifications.

It must be really difficult for him not knowing what to do all the time.

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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

12barblues wrote,
"I will be spending my time at Ezra Klein's blog, which I highly recommend for educational value or at Right Now, which has an interesting perspective. I wish you all well and hope to run into mos of you at some other place."

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Ezra Klein. LOL. And 12bar is supposedly a pro-life conservative. I guess that cat's out of the bag. What does Klein get, about 7 hits per thread?

Posted by: Brigade | June 24, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

McChrystal's comments were "baffling" only in the sense that he allowed full access to his inner circle to a journalist for a politically liberal media outlet. The way BHO treats the military and McChrystal's opinions, and the people he has appointed to supposedly represent American interests in that region (Eikenberry and Holbrook), show a definite disrespect for McChrystal, his experience and his accomplishments as a field commander.

I don't blame McChrystal or his staff for being bent out of shape over their treatment by the administration. The political support has been half-hearted at best, and undermining at worst. They just shouldn't have aired it publicly. The fact that McChrystal was fired over this shows how thin Obama's skin is. Every boss knows that his or her people are going to talk smack about them behind the boss' back. The question is, does the subordinate perform? If so, you should accept some minimum level of derision. If not, tehn the person should be replaced. Obama stated in the Rose Garden that there was no substantive disagreement regarding policy, making it simply a personality issue.

Posted by: djett1 | June 24, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


The real problem in the McChrystal affair is that Obama has been EXPOSED.


Obama promised that he would fight the war in Afghanistan.

Obama really isn't fighting the war - he is looking to get out. Biden was urging Obama to get out.

So, Obama listened to the military - who told him over and over again to Surge - and then hold the place with a partnership of the people there.


So Obama - the great military leader devises his own version of the Surge - first he will Surge, then pull-out.

This DESTROYS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE SURGE. It destroys the entire reasoning of the counterinsurgency strategy.

Why would ANYONE work with an army IF that army already ANNOUNCED they were leaving? The people who worked with us would then be subject to retaliation by the people who do not like us.

So - Obama DEFEATED THE SURGE IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH IN WHICH HE ANNOUNCED THE SURGE.

It is ridiculous - It shows Obama is weak.


It shows Obama is overly unrealistic about the world.

It shows Obama's inexperience.

It shows Obama's lack of qualifications.

It highlights that Obama doesn't know what he is talking about.

It is a disaster.


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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse


apparently o'bama was never taught the most basic rule regarding leadership;

leaders can't demand respect, they must earn it.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

The only one who has lost "the war" is Fix; he can't get rid of one anti-BHO robo-troll, the fake 37. Sad.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Firing General McChrystal and appointing General Petraeus to take command in Afghanistan will by no means save Obama's hide. Obama's troubles as president are very deep and likely beyond repair. He has gotten himself in such a pickle with the American people by his ill-advised policies and tendencies towards socialism. People are finally also beginning to realize that the man is an incompetent neophyte, hardly dry behind his ears. He is also prickly, thin-skinned and arrogant. Those are not good character traits for a president. The American people have largely lost confidence in Obama and once lost, confidence will not easily be retrieved.

Posted by: Tommypie | June 24, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Firing General McChrystal and appointing General Petraeus to take command in Afghanistan will by no means save Obama's hide. Obama's troubles as president are very deep and likely beyond repair. He has gotten himself in such a pickle with the American people by his ill-advised policies and tendencies towards socialism. People are finally also beginning to realize that the man is an incompetent neophyte, hardly dry behind his ears. He is also prickly, thin-skinned and arrogant. Those are not good character traits for a president. The American people have largely lost confidence in Obama and once lost, confidence will not easily be retrieved.

Posted by: Tommypie | June 24, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

The attacks on this blog are vicious

The Obama people gang up on you - they act like a clique of evil 8 year girls.

Lately it is worse, because Obama has been doing so badly.

They realize that all their dreams of Obama have turned into nightmares of FRAUD.


Hopefully the damage to the country will not be so bad in the end.


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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

July 24, 2011:

...and so the blog, the Fix, ended. On its last day, there was only one poster left: one lunatic, formerly the fake 37, posting anti-BHO sewage under 8 different monikers.

Fix and 37. 37 and Fix.

Fix doin' self-described "news & analysis" and 37 postin' ... alone. Final chapter.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

12Bar Please don't leave


We want you to stay.

Marie Wilson: thank you for the compliment.

Obama getting angry at a stoner magazine is hardly leadership.

Who in the world really thinks that??

The liberals are happy because Obama appears to be supporting Biden's pull-out at any cost position on Afghanistan.


Obama is losing the war - and McChrystal wanted a lifeboat.

What is clear now - the military men DO NOT WANT THE CURRENT AFGHAN STRATEGY - the entire war policy is being run by Obama and Biden - and they are losing the war with it.


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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

you know people.. if they (the washington post) wants to ban someone, they will. all they have to do is look at the source ip address. multiple names will show the same ip address. they aren't stupid. you should do a little research before lighting your torches and going on a witch hunt.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse


i'm trying to figure out why people attack each other so much on this blog.

my guess is that they realize o'bama is a one-termer with 20 points shaved off his popularity and with negative numbers for the first time and they just can't deal with it.

if o'bama had A CLUE about the economy, it would be different.. if o'bama had A CLUE about dealing with natural disasters it would be different.. and if o'bama (who never served) had A CLUE about the military or the nature of warfare it would be different.

but he *doesn't have* a clue.

that's why he threw a TRILLION DOLLARS we didn't have to people who made bad decisions in their finances.. that's why he stood with his head up his butt for SIX WEEKS refusing international help for the oil disaster.. and that's why he is digging us deeper and deeper into afghanistan.

o'bama just doesn't have a clue.

but he sure does have a nice voice.

oh yea, *and* a nobel peace prize. LOL


Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead 12Bar, be a crybaby.

If you do not believe in the First Amendment, you do not believe in America.

McChrystal wanted to get out - he is happier now that he doesn't have to implement the INSANE SURGE-PULL OUT IDEA.

McChrystal wanted out -


Obama made a SERIOUS MISTAKE when he broadcast that he wanted to begin the Afghan pull-out in July 2011.


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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

37 is like the Lernaean Hydra (thank god we are not smelling its poisonous breath!).

You cut out one name and two crop up. Luckily all share that trademark lunacy.

Chris is going to have to be like Hercules cutting away until 37 gets a new life.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 24, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

gee 12bars.. PLEASE don't leave!

what would this place be like without you!!!

you sound as narcissistic as that fraud leader of yours o'bama.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

...and then we could nuke 'em.

Posted by: boogalooba | June 24, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

It is sad that the Washington Post allowed itself to be astroturfed by ddawd.

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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Polls are moronic.

Half of the country, sad to sad, are brain dead hicks who listen to talk radio and are gonna hate Obama anyway because he's black.

There's no point is running polls, because the hicks aren't going to grow brains. If they could be split off into Hick Nation, it's the only thing that would restore any kind of sanity to this country.

The Union win in the civil war is starting to sound like a bad idea, in retrospect. I suspect most of the hicks are in the South to begin with, and we could deport the rest there to get rid of them the second they started whining.

Posted by: boogalooba | June 24, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

carlosmartinez11? Yeah, right. Te llamas "37."

37, you were banned. It's over.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Again, 37th is back openly flouting the rules governing the blog.

I will be spending my time at Ezra Klein's blog, which I highly recommend for educational value or at Right Now, which has an interesting perspective. I wish you all well and hope to run into mos of you at some other place.

Thanks, Chris Cillizza, for trying. You have the albatross known as 37th hanging around your neck, but I guess someone has to have the poster from hell. No one else would put up with him, but the Fix. And that's exactly why he can't leave--he has no where else to go.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

"Wow, 37th gets banned and then along comes an entirely new poster named news nuclear that writes in the exact same style.

Posted by: JRM2 | June 24, 2010 4:34"
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It's more like 6-7 posters! Beginning to believe our Hall of Fame troll is professionally sponsored by elements of BHO's opposition or he's a real tech whiz working from his Mom's basement.
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Let me try something with 37's reincarnations:

"The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own. But as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over. Now you will find peace for eternity."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Insubordination?
When, where, who, what?
Political strategists are trying to sell us this as insubordination. Insubordination is refusal by a subordinate to obey lawful orders given by superiors (military or civilians). Has this happened? NO
McChrystal made his speech soon after the Washington Post printed a leaked copy of his 66 page memorandum to President Barack Obama, in which he recommended the adoption of a full-blown counterinsurgency strategy, which would require, among other things, a long commitment and many more U.S. troops—and stating that failure to provide sufficient troops would result in defeat.
After the speech, during a question and answers period
Someone in the audience asked him whether a less aggressive counterterrorism strategy would work in Afghanistan, A strategy like the one Vice Biden has been pushing for, consisting of merely hunting down Taliban fighters rather than a counterinsurgency strategy, which would focus on protecting the Afghan population. McChrystal replied, "The short answer is: No."
If this is insubordination, Obama is violating the first amendment to the United States Constitution.

Posted by: carlosmartinez11 | June 24, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

When, where, who, what?
Political strategists are trying to sell us this as insubordination. Insubordination is refusal by a subordinate to obey lawful orders given by superiors (military or civilians). Has this happened? NO
McChrystal made his speech soon after the Washington Post printed a leaked copy of his 66 page memorandum to President Barack Obama, in which he recommended the adoption of a full-blown counterinsurgency strategy, which would require, among other things, a long commitment and many more U.S. troops—and stating that failure to provide sufficient troops would result in defeat.
After the speech, during a question and answers period
Someone in the audience asked him whether a less aggressive counterterrorism strategy would work in Afghanistan, A strategy like the one Vice Biden has benne pushing for, consisting of merely hunting down Taliban fighters rather than a counterinsurgency strategy, which would focus on protecting the Afghan population. McChrystal replied, "The short answer is: No."
If this is insubordination, Obama is violating the first amendment to the United States Constitution.

Posted by: carlosmartinez11 | June 24, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I think McChrystal deserved a medal for having the courage to tell Obama he was in the wrong.

If anyone should be fired, it's Obama.

Posted by: tncdel | June 24, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Did that banned lunatic, the fake 37, come back under seven new names?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

If you need to pick a golf club, berry is your guy.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 24, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

The truth with the Obama-McChrystal situation is not that difficult to figure out.


McChrystal did NOT want the July 2011 pull-out date.

(There seems to be some dispute between the White House and the Pentagon on whether there are conditions attached to that pull-out starting date.)

McChrystal doesn't like that date - he believes the US needs to SURGE and give the Afghans confidence that we will stay and help them.

McChrystal believs that ANNOUNCING the date DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE SURGE.

Even though McChrystal may have agreed to this policy - he really does not want it.

McChrystal has watched Karzai start making deals - and exploring other options - basically preparing for the US to pull-out.

McChrystal just wanted OUT - he didn't want to preside over this FAILED POLICY.


AND Obama NEVER said he would pull out of Afghanistan during the campaign - he said it was the good war to fight - so the pull-out is Obama going back on his campaign pledges.

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Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

davispope, hate is not a family value.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Here's hoping that BHO-as-the-"decider" gets to be a habit. We loved the pushback by 44.

Now let's stop the bipartisan diddling with your enemies and the triangulations on policy issues (watering down great ideas) and give 'em what's fer, 44. Great stuff from our Commander in Chief.

Dalton from "Roadhouse" might say to 44, "Now's the time not to be nice."
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Oh, and -- Charlie Cook Political Report! Just thought I'd give it a shout out so Fix wouldn't have to. All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Real Crazy group of people.

Posted by: 37thandOstreetRisesFromTheDead | June 24, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Third positive mention of our 44th President in two years. Congrats. Check.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 24, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

you know 12bar.. i have no clue why you are saying what you are, but i'm not 37th,

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Hahahah you're like a kid hiding behind a sapling who thinks nobody can see him.

Wonder how it feels, you're already paranoid and conspiracy obsessed and see yourself on a mission to thwart the liberals on this blog .. Now you have to add stealth to your derangement.  

Give it up, 37th, we all know it's you, you use the same phrases as before, only thing missing is the triple spacing.

You have failed in your mission, young Jedi, fall on your light-saber.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, the bill extending unemployment benefits has been defeated in the Senate, 43 to 57. That's right, 43 votes defeated 57 votes.

Watch Ezra Klein explain it on Rachel Maddow's show on msnbc.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama only does what is best for his own political skin. This is truly the worst administration in my lifetime. 2012 cannot come soon enough for our family. This little stunt was a set up from day one and it was disgusting. I am so glad my parents are dead and cannot witness was we have seen this President do. Their age group took honest, integrity, patriotism and love of God to heart and these people have destroyed so much in such a short time.
My parents taught me those same things and I have not forgotten nor have my children.

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No, he's doing the same as any president would have done faced with insubordination.  And at more political cost than benefit.  

As for honesty and integrity in public office, take that up with the president who lied us into war at the costnof thousands of American lives.

And leave your imaginary celestial playmate out of the discussion.  

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

NOTHING WILL HELP THIS MORON PRESIDENT.

HE CAN TRY TO BLAME EVERYBODY ELSE, LIKE HE HAS BEEN DOING SINCE HE CAME IN AS "PRESIDENT", WHICH IS A JOKE.

MORON OBAMA IS WHAT I CALL HIM AND NOT PRESIDENT. WHAT A JOKE HE IS.
HE IS A MORON

Posted by: pferd | June 24, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama only does what is best for his own political skin. This is truly the worst administration in my lifetime. 2012 cannot come soon enough for our family. This little stunt was a set up from day one and it was disgusting. I am so glad my parents are dead and cannot witness was we have seen this President do. Their age group took honest, integrity, patriotism and love of God to heart and these people have destroyed so much in such a short time.
My parents taught me those same things and I have not forgotten nor have my children.

Posted by: greatgran1 | June 24, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: whisperonthewind

Mr. Cilizza, you're assuming that the rest of us don't agree with Gen. McChrystal. It would be a mistake to assume that. A great many of us DO agree with him. Obama just can't fire us.

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Correct that President Obama cannot fire you. It's comforting to know though that there are not enough you out there to fire him.

Posted by: Observer001 | June 24, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

McChrystal was a social liberal who VOTED for OBAMA!

He ban Fox News and Fast Food at his headquarters!!

Just shows what a Marxist MORON Obama is!
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Congratulations for writing the strangest post of the day.

But, as I think of it, there is corollary between FOX and fast food.

Posted by: sr31 | June 24, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

No accounting for corruption - notice the difference in accountability rules by Obama.

Napolitano, Emanuel, Holder, Pelosi, Reid and Obama play by two different sets of rules. The Obama Administration can lie, use treachery, bribery and propaganda on National TV without so much as a smack of the hands.

For those who are in support of Obama's firing of McCrystal - me thinks Obama has made an error that our Military will suffer from.

Firing McCrystal wasn't a great leader's response as far as protecting our Military and American citizens, but it was the response of a person seeking higher approval ratings and fishing for votes.

Little T-Boca (Annie)

Posted by: tboca | June 24, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama is no decider. He is a confuser, if there is such a word.

Biden says July 2011 is a date certain to start withdrawal.

Gates, Clinton, McChrystal say withdrawal depends on conditions happening July 2011.

That is a big difference. Obama should clear it up. He won't either because he can't figure it out (which is my bet) or he is playing both sides so that he won't lose.

McChrystal was not he problem. The buck stopped with Harry Truman. And it stops for you know who.

Posted by: cpameetingbook | June 24, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Cillizza you can spin this any way you want to, but how many people have bailed on this administration already?
Gen. McChrystal is a warrior, not a paper pushing politician. If you want an example of strong and decisive leadership look at his long military career. Ask the guys that worked with him if they trust him with their life (literally) and the same of Obama. Obama has never so much as led a Boy Scout troup. Obviously you have never served in the military. If you had, you would understand that from day one, whether enlisted or officer, recruits are trained for leadership and responsibility. (some take to it better than others) A WEAK LEADER SUCH AS OBAMA IS MERELY TOLERATED, NEVER RESPECTED. After years of enduring combat conditions - though McChrystal thrived on it - it had to be wearing on him. I do have a great job suggestion for Gen McCrystal. Put him in charge of closing the Arizona border. But of course that would never happen. Obama wants a few more million illigals to come on over to help swing the next election.

Posted by: mudbirdy | June 24, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

37th, can't help yourself, can you.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues wrote; "Oh, they have 37th on a 4 minute timer? Really? Didn't know they were doing that here."

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you know 12bar.. i have no clue why you are saying what you are, but i'm not 37th, and i really don't give a rats azzzz what you think. i post what i want as it's a free country.. at least the last time i checked. and i certainly won't get into an argument with a loser such as yourself.

i won't stoop to your level. find someone else to harass.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I not 100% sure, but didn't Gen. McCrystal give his resignation upon arrival, not giving the President any option but to choose a new general. So the leadership deal still falls on the shoulders of McCrystal. Why? Because he is a leader who knows he's wrong and does the right thing. Obama needs more than a General speaking the truth in public and then "firing" him to make him look like a leader.

Posted by: fyrmn73 | June 24, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh, they have 37th on a 4 minute timer? Really? Didn't know they were doing that here.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

hey noacoler/12barblues...

what i don't understand, is why you (the same person) are posting under both names here? i guess it's so you can post your crap every 2 minutes instead of having to wait 4 minutes. too bad you can't "rec" your own posts here, huh? you probably have 10 monikers so that you can have "popular opinions". you are a lot like rodney dangerfield.. his dog used to like to play with him too.. but only if his mother hung a pork chop around his neck.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Has Obama received a thank you from the Taliban for handing them a propaganda victory they could not have bought by firing the commander of their opposition?

Posted by: KenKadz1 | June 24, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

You guys are going to turn yourselves inside out when "openly gay" soldiers can serve, so pace yourselves for that."


Posted by: Noacoler
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So what are these "openly gay" soldiers going to do that will have people turning themselves inside out?

Posted by: leapin | June 24, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Go away, 37th, you're just as tiresome in the new moniker as in the old.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

concur. No one could speak with such authority on that topic.

No medal though. The Ped lives on.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 24, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Rand Paul also had a "I just don't really know what I think" about General McChrystal:

"RN: Do you agree with the president's decision to accept Gen. Stanley McChrystal's resignation?

PAUL: Ultimately it is the prerogative of the president to decide who his generals are. My first thought was, going back to the historic controversy between Truman and MacArthur, but the thing is I'm not sure I'd call this insubordination, but he had a public disagreement and I think -- I don't think anybody questions that it's the prerogative of president, whether it's a small or big disagreement, to decide who generals are at the top level. I haven't read all his comments nothing specific to say."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/06/rand_paul_speaks_on_mcchrystal.html

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul has spoken out on the BP escrow fund.

"PAUL: Well, I don't think there are many people who don't believe in any regulations, myself included, and even my dad -- I don't think you'll hear him say he doesn't believe in any regulation. But I'm not sure I have the answer to that, sincerely. I think everyone in the country wants BP to pay for the clean-up, myself concluded. I've never had any argument with that -- it's amazing how you say things and they get blown into things you didn't say! I'm not even sure I can talk to some people anymore because they take things out of context."

When pressed again, he said:

"PAUL: I was listening to some people on the Hill today, and they were looking for the justification for setting it up. I don't know what the legal justification is -- I'm not an expert in whether Congress has to give you authority or the president has authority to do it. Those issues take research and time, and I'm not going to make an off-the-cuff response."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/06/rand_paul_speaks_on_mcchrystal.html
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This is the veeeeeeeeeeeeery long way of saying "no comment".

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Go away, 37th, you're just as tiresome in the new moniker as in the old.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Chris, this is sad and pathetic commentary!

Fact is, the Country Team in Afghanistan is DYSFUNCTIONAL. They were not unified! Who was in charge?? The Ambassador? The Czar -- Holbrooke? Hillary? McChrystal? WHERE IN THE WORLD HAS LEADERSHIP BEEN FOR THE PAST YEAR?? This rests clearly at the feet of President Obama. He was the one that said this war had to be won! What did he do to insure the desired outcome?

To say that FIRING A GENERAL WHO HAD PUT HIS LIFE, AND THE LIVES OF OTHER AMERICANS, ON THE LINE, MAY IMPROVE OBAMA'S POLL NUMBERS -- SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU; ABOUT WHY WE HAVE SEEN WAPO' SUBSCRIPTION NUMBER PLUMMET; and about the future of the Party Obama represents!!

THIS IS A SAD COMMENTARY!

Posted by: wheeljc | June 24, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

the headline of this story is "O'bama, the decider"

ROFLMAO!

when i see o'bama.. i think of Mister Mackey on South Park...

o'bama; "mkay class... today i fired a general.. mkay? why did i do it? because he called me names, mkay? and nobody calls the tall and scrawny one names, mkay? so class, i showed this general who the real boss is, mkay? and i hope you all learn a lesson from this, mkay? never call the tall and scrawny one names... and that's all i have to say, mkay? and oh yea, you better tell petraeus not to call me names either, or i'll fire him too. mkay?"

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Chris, this is sad and pathetic commentary!

Fact is, the Country Team in Afghanistan is DYSFUNCTIONAL. They were not unified! Who was in charge?? The Ambassador? The Czar -- Holbrooke? Hillary? McChrystal? WHERE IN THE WORLD HAS LEADERSHIP BEEN FOR THE PAST YEAR?? This rests clearly at the feet of President Obama. He was the one that said this war had to be won! What did he do to insure the desired outcome?

To say that FIRING A GENERAL WHO HAD PUT HIS LIFE, AND THE LIVES OF OTHER AMERICANS, ON THE LINE, MAY IMPROVE OBAMA'S POLL NUMBERS -- SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU; ABOUT WHY WE HAVE SEEN WAPO' SUBSCRIPTION NUMBER PLUMMET; and about the future of the Party Obama represents!!

THIS IS A SAD COMMENTARY!

Posted by: wheeljc | June 24, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama's poll numbers will not improve until you decide to become a journalist again. You will never admit but most people in the general public recognize a long time ago that most of you saw what FIX NEWS was doing and decided to jump on board in subtle ways initially but lately you've become obsessed with who can write the most negative articles and create the most spin on things and who would attempt to top it the next day and get your name mentioned as being the author!
Get real we have and are - Do a poll to asking HOW RELEVANT YOU ARE AS A JOURNALIST!

Posted by: mcgeenate | June 24, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Also, you know what is absent from the coverage of the McChrystal thing? Any discussion at all of whether his criticisms of Obama's administration were valid. No one seems to want to talk about that.

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it's not germane. As an officer on active duty public disrespect for the CIC is contrary to the letter of the UCMJ, you silly fool.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

McChrystal was a social liberal who VOTED for OBAMA!

He ban Fox News and Fast Food at his headquarters!!

Just shows what a Marxist MORON Obama is!

Posted by: theaz | June 24, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

No, McChrystal was fired. "Accepted his resignation" is as euphemistic as "spend more time with his family."

On the way to his sacking McCh scoffed at a question about resigning.

Funny how this story has the losers all a-dithering. Suck it up, guys, the president exercised his authority. You guys are going to turn yourselves inside out when "openly gay" soldiers can serve, so pace yourselves for that."

Suck it up. Over six years to go and you won't like ANY of it.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

The libs and the press have short-term memory loss. Obama ripped into Bush, McCain, and Patraeus regarding their policies. Now, Obama will want to take credit for their successes, and the press is only too willing to help him.

Posted by: jobro2 | June 24, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

And besides, zouk, why would you care if I went away? Seems like that's good for "your side".

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

From the content of many of the posts on this topic, I can see that the average civilian doesn't understand the military code of conduct. I hate to say so and it is most unfortunate, but McChrystal had to go.

Posted by: Artisan1 | June 24, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Lie of the day

"I don't make this decision based on any difference in policy with Gen. McChrystal, as we are in full agreement about our strategy. Nor do I make this decision out of any sense of personal insult." - B. Hussein Obama explaining why he's kicking McChrystal to the curb.
Yeah, right, Bammy. Whatever.

Funny thing, isn't it.? Obama dithered for months over whether to send more troops to Afghanistan. Obama dithered for weeks over how to respond to the Deepwater Horizon spill. But when McChrystal criticized the president, he was gone in a day.

Also, you know what is absent from the coverage of the McChrystal thing? Any discussion at all of whether his criticisms of Obama's administration were valid. No one seems to want to talk about that.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 24, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Why do all liberals think this is a threat. Only the people who will never
Leave post this. And they never do.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 24, 2010 5:08 PM
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Want to put money on it, my friend?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

CC--please ban this new moniker. If you don't I'm going somewhere else to post, because this spammer had driven me and many, many, many others away from this blog.


Why do all liberals think this is a threat. Only the people who will never
Leave post this. And they never do.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 24, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama couldn't find his butt with two hands and a flashlight. I can't wait to see how the White House will try to spin this fiasco into Bush's fault.
The General did did deserve to be fired (but he really resigned), but only because he criticized his civilian superiors, not because of the fact that he cares more for the troops under his command than he doesd about correctly stating the incompetence of his civilian superiors.

Posted by: brooklynborn1 | June 24, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I think the author should have done a little research into Obama's and the Left's Petraeus bashing in the past. Remember "General Betray Us" and "willful suspension of disbelief". Obama will have a hard time getting past all the video of him and his colleagues bashing Petraeus. The question of why he appointed someone he previously hated will be a further drag on his poll numbers.

Posted by: wwbockjr | June 24, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama appointed General David Petraeus to take over for General Stanley McChrystal in Afghanistan after McChrystal offended the world's greatest community organizer by daring to criticize him and some of the idiots in his administration. Everyone was supposed to be impressed because Petraeus very successfully managed to make the Surge in Iraq successful. Most people conveniently overlooked the fact that, back in 2007, Senator Obama opposed the surge in Iraq and was openly campaigning for its (and General Petraeus's) failure. The left-wing outfit MoveOn-dot-org even took out an ad in the New York Times calling him "General Betray-Us." A number of Democrats and Republicans voted to condemn the ad. Obama wasn't one of them.

We were all supposed to forget about that. We don't actually have a MiniTrue, but we have the MFM, which achieves much the same result by not mentioning this inconvenient fact of history. And MoveOn-dot-org also did their best to help by deleting the web page featuring the ad and their explanation for it.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 24, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

As far as I am concerned, as long as the US military is deployed anywhere except along our own borders Obama will rate a big fat zero with me. Same goes for his health plan and all the other socialistic programs he so loves. We should impeach him now and undo all the crazy stuff he has done. Stan the Man is just a sideshow and nothing in that subject will help Obama for more than a day or two, just long enough for the media to forget about the whole thing.

Posted by: McChalium | June 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Wow, is it so easy, to win public confidence? How about publicly flogging the most despised man in congress, Joe Barton? What's that good for; Dem control of the Senate?

Posted by: Reesh | June 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cilizza, you're assuming that the rest of us don't agree with Gen. McChrystal. It would be a mistake to assume that. A great many of us DO agree with him. Obama just can't fire us.

Posted by: whisperonthewind | June 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

With this action, Obama has prove that he has "strong and decisive leadership", against those who opposed his ideas. McChrystal is not Joe the plummer. McChrystal has critized administration decisions in the past, warning implementation of administration policies, will create a Caos-kistan.
Obama (the guy who was willing to talk to Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and venezuelas' Chavez), has problems comunicating with the generals fighting the war he is in charge.
Is this Leadership?
comomm media guys

Posted by: carlosmartinez11 | June 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

yea it's going sideways.. but you are obviously ignoring the y axis. THAT'S the important one.
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Yeah, it's going sideways. Right.

Thanks 37th, for the acknowledgment.

CC--please ban this new moniker. If you don't I'm going somewhere else to post, because this spammer had driven me and many, many, many others away from this blog.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Take a look in the mirror, and then take a look at who you elected to the higest office in the land
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Let me get this straight. You think I'm black?

And the makeup you are referring to, is dark skinned people.

And that's what is obvious to you will destroy the nation?

Is that right?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

There is no great and sudden change in Obama's ratings.
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So far no one is able to show the great deterioration in Obama's approval rating.

Everyone, look at the chart. This thing is just going sideways within a point. You can cherry pick some day when it is one way or the other, but the trend is SIDEWAYS.

Posted by: 12BarBlues


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are you kidding me?!?!?

LOL

i just looked that the url for rcp polls that you listed.

o'bama's dropped 20 POINTS since being elected.

yea it's going sideways.. but you are obviously ignoring the y axis. THAT'S the important one.

the honeymoon is over for the tall and scrawny one.. and now looks don't matter. it's his actions.. and he doesn't seem to know wtf he is doing.

i'm going to start referring to o'bama as the "clueless one".

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Both Obama and WaPo are way too impressed with how he looks today, as opposed to what he is.
He is a lightweight who has real authority. Doesn't even recognize or respect real competence.
This is the opposite of leadership and a good portion of America still (for now) knows it.
Pray that God, who is not a lightweight, and who still reigns in the affairs of men, will lead him to make some right decisions instead of the long list of destructive decisions he has made - and is continuing to make - in such a very short time in office.

Posted by: trevithick | June 24, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

General McChrystal gave POTUS no choice. Our commisioning oath says we a required to uphold and defend the constitution and carry out the orders of those designated over us; POTUS, much to this country's chagrin and embarassment, is Commander-in-Chief.
There are two ironies with this. First, the president sees it fit to not lead in accordance with the constitution since he sees it as a flawed document. Second, the messiah publically ripped Gen. Petraeus in Senate hearings berating his surge strategy in Iraq and questioning strategy (for someone who is clueless as to military affairs and the military ethos this is comical). Now he has his tail between his legs because besides McChrystal (his pick to lead the Afghanistan campaign), only Petraeus knows more on counter-insurgency and now POTUS is totally dependent on someone he chastised earlier.

Posted by: pielusztcontractor | June 24, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

General McChrystal gave POTUS no choice. Our commisioning oath says we a required to uphold and defend the constitution and carry out the orders of those designated over us; POTUS, much to this country's chagrin and embarassment, is Commander-in-Chief.
There are two ironies with this. First, the president sees it fit to not lead in accordance with the constitution since he sees it as a flawed document. Second, the messiah publically ripped Gen. Petraeus in Senate hearings berating his surge strategy in Iraq and questioning strategy (for someone who is clueless as to military affairs and the military ethos this is comical). Now he has his tail between his legs because besides McChrystal (his pick to lead the Afghanistan campaign), only Petraeus knows more on counter-insurgency and now POTUS is totally dependent on someone he chastised earlier.

Posted by: pielusztcontractor | June 24, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

You guys at the Post are amazing. The reason for Obama's supposed position with regard to McChrystal was that Obama had lost the respect of the General. This loss of respect is also reflected in Obama's polls, America does not respect Obama. McChrystal resigns and Obama appoints Petraeus, a General that he derided during the Iraq war and all of a sudden Obama get's respect, you're nuts. Besides Obama will just find something else to screw up. His polls will stay low throughout the remainder of his first and last term in office.

Posted by: davispope | June 24, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Stop Obama's slide in the polls? NOT HARDLY! I'd like to grease to pole for this subversive who hates this country and its CITIZENS. The only people he works for are ILLEGAL INVADER LAW BREAKERS! He's done nothing for American citizens. Either way he went on the issue with McChrystal, he's loser! He shows that he has no respect for our people in the military regardless of rank!
Notice nobody is mentioning the treatment Petraeus got from them....He must think we forget that easily.

Posted by: TexRancher | June 24, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

McChrystal essentially fired himself. The Big O still more pretender than decider.

Posted by: leapin | June 24, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

You guys at the Post are amazing. The reason for Obama's supposed position with regard to McChrystal was that Obama had lost the respect of the General. This loss of respect is also reflected in Obama's polls, America does not respect Obama. McChrystal resigns and Obama appoints Petraeus, a General that he derided during the Iraq war and all of a sudden Obama get's respect, you're nuts. Besides Obama will just find something else to screw up. His polls will stay low throughout the remainder of his first and last term in office.

Posted by: davispope | June 24, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

12bars has the blues? the makeup. Take a look in the mirror, and then take a look at who you elected to the higest office in the land, then look at the gulf, then check out the Middle East, then get a tab on what is being spent, and, what it is for! Golly!.. hello? Lord.. HELP us.

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

12bars has the blues? the makeup. Take a look in the mirror, and then take a look at who you elected to the higest office in the land, then look at the gulf, then check out the Middle East, then get a tab on what is being spent, and, what it is for! Golly!.. hello? Lord.. HELP us.

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

12bars has the blues? the makeup. Take a look in the mirror, and then take a look at who you elected to the higest office in the land, then look at the gulf, then check out the Middle East, then get a tab on what is being spent, and, what it is for! Golly!.. hello? Lord.. HELP us.

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

12bars has the blues? the makeup. Take a look in the mirror, and then take a look at who you elected to the higest office in the land, then look at the gulf, then check out the Middle East, then get a tab on what is being spent, and, what it is for! Golly!.. hello? Lord.. HELP us.

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

12bars has the blues? the makeup. Take a look in the mirror, and then take a look at who you elected to the higest office in the land, then look at the gulf, then check out the Middle East, then get a tab on what is being spent, and, what it is for! Golly!.. hello? Lord.. HELP us.

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

with the makeup of what we have now in America, the generation that is currently making decisions, and from what we see of the one that is to follow, this nation cannot possibly long endure.
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It's not obvious to me. What is the makeup of what we have now in America?

And how does the younger generation differ from prior generations?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of everything being 'all about polls.' The question should be, did the President do the right thing. In this case the answer is a firm YES.

I also think his approach to the oil spill has been as good as anyone could have done. What did these people who think otherwise think he could/should have done? What do they think McCain/Palin, or any other administrator, would have done, that would have been more effective? The government can't plug an oil leak or prevent it from fouling the gulf & coast. Once this accident happened, it has to be in the hands of those engineers and technicians who have the special equipment & expertise to try to deal with the consequences, under supervision of the government & with help of the coast guard. That's what is happening.

The setting up of BP funds to hasten compensation of victims was an excellent way to deal with several problems intelligently. It lets victims begin to collect, without a lengthy and uncertain litigation process. It costs taxpayers nothing. It helps stabilize BP's finanial outlook and assure that they will be able to handle the expense in a manageable way.
Why has the President not received raves on this arrangement?

The oil spill should be cause for a sober assessment of what lies in our future, not an occasion to belittle the President. Ditto the change of commanders in Afghanistan.

We need to stop making everything a political football, an occasion to pick apart every little detail of the President's actions, remarks, dress, 'body language' emotional demonstrativeness or lack thereof, etc ad nauseum. And not just another occasion to take a poll and talk endlessly about how this affects upcoming elections.

Get with it, media folk & American people! We have serious problems to solve, and they aren't about how the latest event affects the opinion polls and the next election.

Posted by: PeggyB1 | June 24, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Psst! Chris ... What are you smoking? Don't Bogart it, pass it over to me.

General McChrystal 'agrees' with Obama's philosophies and is placed in a war-fighters 'no-win position' by the administration bumbling idiots. Obama fires him and replaces him with a Bush-ite who will try his darnedest to win this Afghanistan contest ~ and will checkmate those bumblers on the Obama 'team' probably prolonging the war until it reaches a 'just' conclusion? It was a choice Obama didn't 'make' but was forced into. He gets no points for leadership although he tries to spin it that way ...

Obama's numbers are not going up because of a General who called it like he saw it ... who got fired 'rightly' (poor judgment) for allowing a left wing, liberal rag to actually get close to the Generals team and hear how much disdain the military has for this bumbling idiot. Remember Obama is killing American assets (American soldiers) by his buffoonery ...

How do you get points for getting rightly and justly criticized?

Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot.

Posted by: MiguelSaavedra | June 24, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Again, where do you get your facts? Since February, Obama's approval AND disapproval rating have fluctuated within one percentage point each. If you can interpret a graph, you might want to take a look at the long term approval ratings at: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

There is no great and sudden change in Obama's ratings.
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So far no one is able to show the great deterioration in Obama's approval rating.

Everyone, look at the chart. This thing is just going sideways within a point. You can cherry pick some day when it is one way or the other, but the trend is SIDEWAYS.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

It is so apparent to me, and surely it MUST be to others, that with the makeup of what we have now in America, the generation that is currently making decisions, and from what we see of the one that is to follow, this nation cannot possibly long endure. What a shame! We had a good thing, then, the morons outnumbered the smart ones and they elected Obama(nation). What a joke!

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

It is so apparent to me, and surely it MUST be to others, that with the makeup of what we have now in America, the generation that is currently making decisions, and from what we see of the one that is to follow, this nation cannot possibly long endure. What a shame! We had a good thing, then, the morons outnumbered the smart ones and they elected Obama(nation). What a joke!

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

It is so apparent to me, and surely it MUST be to others, that with the makeup of what we have now in America, the generation that is currently making decisions, and from what we see of the one that is to follow, this nation cannot possibly long endure. What a shame! We had a good thing, then, the morons outnumbered the smart ones and they elected Obama(nation). What a joke!

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

It is so apparent to me, and surely it MUST be to others, that with the makeup of what we have now in America, the generation that is currently making decisions, and from what we see of the one that is to follow, this nation cannot possibly long endure. What a shame! We had a good thing, then, the morons outnumbered the smart ones and they elected Obama(nation). What a joke!

Posted by: wilsonccjr | June 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

He is hated for this?
I just don't get it and I never will.

Posted by: BobSanderson | June 24, 2010 4:32 PM
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Obama haters look at him and see a janitor. It couldn't be more clear what the objection is. Out of their mouths comes the answer.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Count on President "Talks" to rely on the Rolling Stones publication.

Posted by: treedbrent | June 24, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Count on President "Talks" to rely on the Rolling Stones publication.

Posted by: treedbrent | June 24, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Count on President "Talks" to rely on the Rolling Stones publication.

Posted by: treedbrent | June 24, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I know it and the polls show that the majority of the nation now knows it.

Posted by: cribbagespadesman | June 24, 2010 4:32 PM
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Again, where do you get your facts? Since February, Obama's approval AND disapproval rating have fluctuated with one percentage point each. If you can interpret a graph, you might want to take a look at the long term approval ratings at: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

There is no great and sudden change in Obama's ratings.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey news nuclear, is CC against the first amendment since he banned you as 37th?

Posted by: JRM2 | June 24, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

There is no doubt that Obama and his co-conspirators are trying to destroy this country through their unconstitutional actions and overt disregard for the rule of law as well as their open disrepect for the constitution of the United States as well as guilty of an array of high crimes and misdemeanors against the The United States of America and the American People and should be thouroughly prosecuted to the full extent of the law.unless there is no one in washington who has the courage to stand up against these thugs.

Posted by: hayjames | June 24, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Wow, 37th gets banned and then along comes an entirely new poster named news nuclear that writes in the exact same style.

Posted by: JRM2 | June 24, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight. Obama fires Bushs general, puts in his own (McChrystal) and when he screws up, chooses Bush other general(Petraes) and the worship media including the Post conclude he brilliant, the decider, taking the reins. Seems to me Bush was the only smart one here. Do your reporters bother to check background facts or is the post becoming entertainment tonight.

Posted by: ceg12345 | June 24, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

But the way the system is set up, with the President the acknowledged head of the military, he simply had to fire McChrystal for insubordination. Period. We need to change the system.

Posted by: sunnyet | June 24, 2010 4:30 PM
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I can't wait to hear how we should change the system. You mean remove civilian control of the military? You mean perhaps have the civilians report to the military. Or perhaps, have the military report to the Republicans? Or what?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Chris -- The General should have been fired. Us conservatives think Obama is wrecking our nation, but that doesn't mean we'll support the irresponsible words from a member of the military, beholden to uphold decades of decorum, principal and tradition -- all while being tasked with running a war. That said, you're living a pipe dream if you think Obama will recover from the mistakes he has made. The nation is coming around and now realizes that dog-and-pony-show idealists with no real tact for leadership get us nowhere. Obama is an embarrassment. He knows it, I know it and the polls show that the majority of the nation now knows it.

Posted by: cribbagespadesman | June 24, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me like the reporter is trying to repackage a bad thing as good.

I see it as Obama silencing a man who should have been given a medal for having the country to tell Obama he is wrong.

McChrystal's first allegiance is to our country. Not to someone hurting our country.

And Petareus is merely a White House lapdog who blindly follows orders, even when he knows the orders will hurt our country's best interests.

No, Obama's approval ratings will continue to go down. Now he's no longer the worst president since Jimmy Carter. For he has already eclipsed Carter in that regard, setting new standards of ineptitude.

Posted by: tncdel | June 24, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

What is ironic is that the people that hate him really can't see that he is the very much embodiment of the American dream they brag will kill anyone to preserve.

He has risen it from poverty to highest office in the land despite being an African American. What a story!

He came from a broken home and was poor. He is of mixed raced but was loved and nurtured by his grandma enough to excel inter-personally, academically and politically.

He went to some of the toughest and finest Universities and excelled despite the rigor. He was chosen the Editor of the Harvard Law Review (one of the most sought after roles in his profession) and was recruited to be a clerk in the US Supreme Court.

He chose to be a community organizer (to the uncontrollable anger of many here)instead and then to teach constitutional law (the expertise of apparently every red neck and Tea Bag Republican in America) at the University of Chicago.

He married an equally accomplished woman and has been a great dad to his two lovely girls that make America proud.

He tried and failed to get elected but was ultimately successful multiple times all the way to the ultimate political prize.

He actually wrote (not had them ghost written like Palin) two fine bestseller books. This work made him wealthy enough to take care of his family and to truly dedicate himself to public service.

He is hated for this?
I just don't get it and I never will.

Posted by: BobSanderson | June 24, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

There was no decision to be made here -- it wasn't Obama's choice. You're giving him credit where credit isn't due, but I can see why you would. He's such a disaster; a weak sister, Chicago thug who's out of his depth. But the way the system is set up, with the President the acknowledged head of the military, he simply had to fire McChrystal for insubordination. Period. We need to change the system.

Posted by: sunnyet | June 24, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

say, makom, dude,

I try not to joust with someone who quotes from the Bible, but in this case, I have to point out to you that you need another argument, because your Thessolians2 just isn't going to persuade anyone who doesn't already believe it.

But then, you knew that, didn't you.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

If your decision is anymore complicated than picking a dog, get in line. There is at least a six month waiting list to even think about thinking about it. Then there are the speeches, the commissions, the summits, the new taxes, the ramrodding, and the apologies. Liberal leadership takes time.

If, on the other hand, a decision is involved with who to blame for mr thin skinned present idents utter shortcomings and failures, retribution is swift and decisive. Before the next crisis emerges in tomorrows news cycle.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 24, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Are you NUTS!!!???

Obummer's hand-picked General and his staff refer to the White House (charitably) as a bunch of clowns, and that's going to HELP Odumbass' standing???

Now the President must rely on a General to bail him out whom he smeared and maligned with great gusto three years ago. Not good.

The Blago trial and the ongoing oil spill are merely cherries on top. This loser will be kicked out the door in 2012.

Posted by: DavidKeene1 | June 24, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Are you NUTS!!!???

Obummer's hand-picked General and his staff refer to the White House (charitably) as a bunch of clowns, and that's going to HELP Odumbass' standing???

Now the President must rely on a General to bail him out whom he smeared and maligned with great gusto three years ago. Not good.

The Blago trial and the ongoing oil spill are merely cherries on top. This loser will be kicked out the door in 2012.

Posted by: DavidKeene1 | June 24, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

But we're not fooled, 37th. You're nowhere near smart enough to conceal your identity.

Go away.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama has an excuse to paste that phony frown on his face and look into the distance like a real President
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12BarBlues wrote; "He is the REAL President. Duly elected by 67m voters. As opposed to 58m for the other guy. Then there were the electoral votes. Should I go into those too?"

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yea. well, you've heard the saying, "fool me once, shame on you.. fool me twice, shame on me."

o'bama will *not* be re-elected. he's about as resolute and decisive as a wet piece of toast.

he might as well get used to it.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama Destroying America. If you truly want to know what is going on; Then you will have to accept these things as the TRUTH. Once you understand the following things; All things will be understood. So I tell you Obama is the Anti-Christ, Satan on Earth, Lawless One, or what ever else you want to call this Demonic Figure. His words describe him, He is a False Hope, If you listen to him you will love him. He carries a Bow without an Arrow. He will conquer all through his speech, his false hoods will capture all who sit and listen to him.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Posted by: makom | June 24, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Never mind the Blago trial, 37th and O St.,
what about Tony Rezko? Obama's chief Chicago partner in political and financial crime was convicted TWO years ago and still has NOT been sentenced. Talk about unconstitutional treatment of prisoners!
Rezko's sentencing was postponed temporarily--on the pretext that he wanted to talk and strike a deal--but really so Obama wouldn't be embarrassed in any way just before the 2008 election. No one has heard about Rezko since. You can't hide a prisoner for two years without sentencing him. Unless you're Obama of course. Is Rezko even still alive?
Why doesn't the Post report on this vital story???

Posted by: kypriotis | June 24, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama has an excuse to paste that phony frown on his face and look into the distance like a real President
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He is the REAL President. Duly elected by 67m voters. As opposed to 58m for the other guy. Then there were the electoral votes. Should I go into those too?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

Thanks for offering 37 early retirement to spend more time with the family.

You know that he will crop up under other names and so regular maintenance will be needed until he meets his needs elsewhere.

Best,
Bob

PS NewsNuclear has the same DNA

Posted by: BobSanderson | June 24, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

What exactly have you done that allows you to look down your nose at Obama?

Posted by: dbitt | June 24, 2010 4:07 PM
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He's probably been a janitor.

Have you ever read such dripping contempt for an achiever like Obama, just because he's black. schotta seems to think that blacks can't be achievers.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

cschotta1 is one of those folks that is so blind, deaf and dumb to the reality of the world WE live in. Proud of his/ her ignorance and sophmoric in his reasoning.

Posted by: priceisright | June 24, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

cschotta1 is one of those folks that is so blind, deaf and dumb to the reality of the world WE live in. Proud of his/ her ignorance and sophmoric in his reasoning.

Posted by: priceisright | June 24, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Obama, the luckiest marxist on earth! He couldn't buy all the diversions that drop into his lap for the trillions of our tax dollars that he's stolen. Some crappy little remarks in some crappy little pinko magazine and SHAZAM, Obama has an excuse to paste that phony frown on his face and look into the distance like a real President, and with generals standing at attention behind him. Wow! Really presidential.

Posted by: kypriotis | June 24, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The following is another thoughtful post from Ezra Klein. It is on the budget deficit and its strong relationship to economic conditions vs policy decisions.

If you don't already read him you should give him a try.

Go to the link because he has a great pie chart: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/budget_deficits_reflect_econom.html


"Budget deficits reflect economic conditions, not just government policy


A better way to make the point I was trying to make in this post is to say that people overestimate the degree to which budget deficits are a reflection of government policy rather than a reflection of background economic conditions. A set of policies that were balancing state budgets in 2004 and 2005 and 2006 and could've survived a mild recession but weren't able to hold the line against a once-in-a-generation economic storm aren't bad or profligate policies: It's just hard to endure economic catastrophes, and you wouldn't necessarily want to orient your economic policy around long-tail events. A pension program that was started in the early 1900s and that's worked pretty well but will run a temporary deficit when an uncommonly large generation retires isn't a poorly designed pension program.

In the current context, the main point here is that big deficits aren't being caused by stimulus spending or bank rescues or anything else: They're being caused by unemployment, which destroys tax revenue. This is true in the states, it's true in the country, and as the IMF graph atop this post shows, it's true worldwide. But because people tend to think of deficits as a measure of fiscal responsibility rather than an indicator of broader economic conditions, this gets mixed up, which also means that what we should do about the temporary rise in deficits gets mixed up."

Ezra Klein Washington Post

Posted by: BobSanderson | June 24, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

37th alert. NewsNuclear. Bwahaha!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

It just goes to prove that affirmative action doesn't work. Barack Hussein Obama is a perfect example of someone who has been given so much, has earned very little on his own merits. He's incompetent, in over his head, and unqualified. Obama as POTUS is like making the janitor CEO!

Posted by: cschotta1
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cschotta1, did YOU get into an Ivy League school AND law school on scholarships (because your family didn't have enough to pay the tuition)?
Were YOU the first member of your ethnicity to become editor of the Harvard Law Review?
Have YOU won election to state and then national office?
Have YOU written two bestselling memoirs or gotten millions of young people to register to vote?
No?
What exactly have you done that allows you to look down your nose at Obama?

Posted by: dbitt | June 24, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse


p.s. hey o'bama.... what exactly *is* a community organizer?

is that like a cub scout den mother?

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I also don't get why Obama wants the whole Gulf to get Moussed when he could just deploy the vast organize enterprise of equipment and people that Bush and Cheney put in place just for clean ups of spills. All the miles and miles of beach protection, the automated skimmers and the supertankers waiting nearby to suck up the oil should the very unlikely happen are just being wasted. Why doesn't Obama become man enough this once to order it into action? This is the situation Bush and Cheney foresaw and funded it all for!

And what about all the expertise that was built up in the government to shut down a problem well just like this one? Can't Obama just do his job and even issue an order to get these people working?

That is why we needed two oil men in the White House to set the country up right and protect it against all harm possible. That is real patriotism isn't it? USA!

If Obama had not removed all the regulatory protection Bush and Cheney put in place over 8 long years this would not have ever happened in the first place. Why? OH? Why? Additionally, all the oil industry insiders so carefully picked for MMS to do the biding of the industry were all that was protecting us from disaster. Why not leverage these fine citizen capitalists?

Obama really doesn't get it.

Posted by: mariewilson11
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I couldn't figure out whether you were being REALLY sarcastic, or if you do believe what you wrote... For your sake I hope you were being sarcastic. 8 years of Bush/Cheney regulations; Most, if not all of those MMS regulators were put there by Bush / Cheney.

Posted by: PeterPamZ | June 24, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

37th is back already

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

37th, what color is the sky in your world? Do you have any contact with sane people, people who provide a reality check on your wild delusions?
Seek help. You clearly have problems with the real world.

Posted by: dbitt | June 24, 2010 3:58 PM
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Guess you didn't see the final conclusion from Chris Cillizza. 37th has been banned, not for his opinions, but for spamming the blog. We are all kicking up our heels and looooooooooooooving our Cillizza.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Comrade Obama "strong and decisive leadership", "resolute", "professional", and "firm action of a hands-on executive"???????
This is a joke right Chris?

The reason we have a BP oil spill that got out of hand for 65 days now, is BECAUSE Comrade Obama WASN'T a "strong and decisive; WASN'T "reselute"; WASN'T "professional", and his Keystone Kop like incompetence was NOT the "firm action of a hands-on executive".
What you and your fellow partisan alleged journalists are spouting, is just a bunch of BS, handed to you by the Democrap Socialist Party, and all you're doing is just repeating it. Pres. G.W. Bush would have been crucified by you guys, who are supposed to be the "Watchdog(s) for the People", but who have become nothing more than the Democrap Socialists propaganda arm and cheering section.

Posted by: armpeg | June 24, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse


if anyone hasn't read the story the rolling stone wrote.. you really should.

it's amazing.

no wonder o'bama got his panties all in a bundle and fired McChrystal.. because McChrystal makes o'bama look like the idiot he is.

in the story, McChrystal mentions it took o'bama FOUR MONTHS to even meet with him after he had been his LEADING GENERAL in afghanistan.. and o'bama *did* meet him.. McChrystal said that o'bama didn't even seem to care.

o'bama's a loser.

plain and simple.

i noticed today.. he's having as many people he can get air time defendinng his decision.

it's only too bad that the people that this will REALLY HURT are our soldiers.

they are the ones that this should be about.. not about the opinions of a top rated general.

but then nancy fancy panties pelosi said a general shouldn't have an opinion.

wtf is that supposed to mean? are you just supposed to wind them up pelosi and let them go marching off to war? THAT'S WHY THEY ARE GENERALS... BECAUSE THEIR OPINIONS AND THEIR PAST JUDGMENTS.

you are such an ignorant lady pelosi.. it must really suck to be you.

and o'bama.. who gives a friggin hoot. he's a one termer.

o'bama has NO CLUE what to do about the economy... o'bama has NO CLUE how to deal with natural disasters.. and he has NO CLUE what to do with the war george bush started.

he just has NO CLUE about anything. except how to go play golf and take vacations in hawaii.

that's what you get when you hire someone with a nice speaking voice who was a community organizer.

Posted by: NewsNuclear | June 24, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Despite graduating with high honors from Harvard and Columbia, teaching constitutional law, running one of the most brilliant campaigns in modern time and receiving worldwide acclaim, you, cschotta, are the ONLY person who really knows he is like the janitor. You are a fool and you don't even know it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues

Honors from Harvard Law-for burning more American flags than his liberal buddies. Sure would love to know he refuses to release his grades and papers. He thinks we have 57 states, can't pronounce "corpsman" correctly-even after mulitiple attempts, the world is quickly realizing that the emperor has no clothes. He's a fake, a dud, it's like a "Weekend at Bernies", and everyone is finally catching on that there is nothing to this man-except the color of his skin!

Barack Hussein Obama-riding the affirmative action train all the way to the White House.

"ALL ABOARD"

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

For that I will never forgive him.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 24, 2010 3:54 PM
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Marie, you know I luv you, girl. But here's the choice Hayworth or McCain as the R nominee. I'll take McCain over Hayworth. Any.day.of.the.week.

Now, change the choices...then it could be a different story.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

As usual, 37thandOstreet completely misses the point.
Obama didn't stage this--this came about because a general showed unbelievably bad judgment in talking freely to a Rolling Stone reporter.
But in 37th's fevered little brain, Obama is the evil mastermind behind all the press coverage of this general's spectacular fall and somehow orchestrated his removal in order to take the nation's eyes off the oil spill.
37th, what color is the sky in your world? Do you have any contact with sane people, people who provide a reality check on your wild delusions?
Seek help. You clearly have problems with the real world.

Posted by: dbitt | June 24, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Here, let's play a game. You're going on a high IQ bowl. You can pick any 2 people: B Clinton, GW Bush, and B Obama. Which 2 will it be?

Posted by: arielpoly | June 24, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Where do you get your facts from? Since February, Obama's approval AND disapproval rating have fluctuated with one percentage point each. If you can interpret a graph, you might want to take a look at the long term approval ratings at: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

There is no great and sudden change in Obama's ratings.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues,

McCain is probably already dusting off his ol' maverick boots, puffing up his chest again as he looks in the mirror. I am the Maverick again! I am the Man!

He still left us with that oily residue, the Arctic Grifter, from his god forsaken run for the White House. They lost but it still made her a millionaire (maybe those clothes she stole really did help) and we now have to read about her every moronic tweet. What kind of country have we become?

For that I will never forgive him.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 24, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Was Barry Soetoro Born In Hawaii?
For the record, Obama's name is Barry Soetoro, unless he's legally changed it. I think he got the surname from his stepfather.

And, if he was born in Hawaii, then why doesn't he manifest an authentic birth certificate.

Signed:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART von DRASHEK M.D.

Posted by: thomasxstewart1 | June 24, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

You'd see posts by cannula and cshotta and decide that conservatives are really REALLY stupid.

And, at least as a first approximation, you'd be right.

Posted by: Noacoler

Only "stupid" people go around chanting CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN, worshipping a failed community organizer who didn't know his reverend of 20 years was a racist. OUCH!!

"SHOW ME A YOUNG CONSERVATIVE AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOMEONE WITH NO HEART. SHOW ME AN OLD LIBERAL AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOMEONE WITH NO BRAINS"-Winston Churchill

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama as POTUS is like making the janitor CEO!

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:46 PM
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Despite graduating with high honors from Harvard and Columbia, teaching constitutional law, running one of the most brilliant campaigns in modern time and receiving worldwide acclaim, you, cschotta, are the ONLY person who really knows he is like the janitor. You are a fool and you don't even know it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

URGENT TO DEFENSE SEC. ROBERT GATES (staff, pls. fwd.):

McCHRYSTAL AN 'ANOMALY?' MR. GATES, READ THIS AND CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates today told Pentagon reporters that the statements of General McChrystal and his team were an "anomaly," not a reflection of a more general disrespect among the military for the chain of command (and by extension, disrespect for the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law).

NO, MR. GATES, I FEAR YOU ARE WRONG.

SUMMON MCCHRYSTAL BACK TO WASHINGTON.

MAKE HIM TELL ALL HE KNOWS ABOUT MULTI-AGENCY FUSION CENTER COORDINATED SILENT MICROWAVE ASSAULTS ON EXTRAJUDICIALLY 'TARGETED INDIVIDUALS'...

...INCLUDING AMERICAN CITIZENS DEEMED TO BE 'DISSIDENTS' OR 'UNDESIRABLES.'

As the former head of the Army's Joint Special Operations Command, the General is believed to possess intimate knowledge of a worldwide cell tower- mounted microwave laser/radio frequency directed energy weapon system that is capable of precision-targeting of military or human targets...

... a system that this veteran journalist says is being used to silently torture and impair unknowing individuals -- abroad, and here at home. These "targeted individuals" -- some targeted for their political beliefs, or their ethnic background -- also are victimized by GPS-enabled community-based vigilantes, and by government-enabled financial sabotage.

Are political leaders "targets" too -- maybe even POTUS and his staff?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener re: "U.S. Silently..." and "Gestapo USA..."
Vic Livingston is on Facebook ("Notes").

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 24, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

You should be more worried about what your Messiah is doing to the democRAT party, no?

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:42 PM
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And why is that?

Posted by: 12BarBlues

Were you born stupid?

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Suppose you just emerged from your chrysalis and had no preconceptions about liberals and coservatives. You come to this blog and read the posts. What would you conclude?

You'd see posts by cannula and cshotta and decide that conservatives are really REALLY stupid.

And, at least as a first approximation, you'd be right.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I bet you also believe affirmative action had nothing to do with Obama getting into Harvard, eh loser?
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I don't know whether it did or not, but what's your point? Let's say it did get Obama into Harvard...what's your point?

Posted by: 12BarBlues

It just goes to prove that affirmative action doesn't work. Barack Hussein Obama is a perfect example of someone who has been given so much, has earned very little on his own merits. He's incompetent, in over his head, and unqualified. Obama as POTUS is like making the janitor CEO!

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

You should be more worried about what your Messiah is doing to the democRAT party, no?

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:42 PM
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And why is that?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Not suprising at all, the Post is almost quietly glossing over the President's new ugly approval rating. His popularity is falling, the people's confidence in him, and the direction the country is going, is falling. He's not dealing with the war properly. He hasn't dealt with the oil spill. He's forced legislation down the throats of the vast majority of Americans who didn't want it.

Thankfully, many of the uninformed people who voted for this inexperienced buffoon are seeing the light finally. Not only will his clueless party be swept from power in a few short months, but like Carter this great hot-air blower will be back to making harmless speeches once his term is over. It's one and done for sure.


Posted by: jollyroger2 | June 24, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I bet you also believe affirmative action had nothing to do with Obama getting into Harvard, eh loser?
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I don't know whether it did or not, but what's your point? Let's say it did get Obama into Harvard...what's your point?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

So much for the anti-incumbent, pro Tea Party meme. If it doesn't play in AZ...well you know the rest of the song.

Posted by: 12BarBlues


You should be more worried about what your Messiah is doing to the democRAT party, no?

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh, he'll come back. He's a paranoid on a mission. Now CC is in on the conspiracy so it's his duty more than ever to fight the good fight and thwart the "leftists."

Usually a liberal is banned at the same time in token homage to balance, which must needs be faked. How about this time instead we get rid of the virulent homophobe instead.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of McCain, did you all see the latest Magellan poll on the AZ race? McCain is ahead of Hayworth by 23 points. Yup, you read that right. Hayworth's trend is just dropping off the chart.

RCP has the average at about 17 points, although that's not too helpful, since it includes some old polls.

So much for the anti-incumbent, pro Tea Party meme. If it doesn't play in AZ...well you know the rest of the song.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Must be so sad, being a liberal and hoping your Messiah's poll numbers go up by firing a 4 star general. Yeah, you might impress the CodePink kooks, but then you put General "Betray Us' in charge. LOL

==

You might educate yourself a little. Support for Obama's decision to relieve a loose cannon was praised by such Code Pink kooks as John McCain and John Boehner. Yeah, those guys are real "commies."

Obama acted decisively for once. Suck it up.

Posted by: Noacoler

McCain and Boehner were in CodePink, really? I bet you also believe affirmative action had nothing to do with Obama getting into Harvard, eh loser?

"IMAGINE A WORLD FREE OF LIBERALS"

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

thanks, marie. but he's another booooring waste of time.

Posted by: drindl | June 24, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Chris. We'll keep you informed if he comes back. Hopefully this place will be readable.

This new thing to count characters is also nice.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 24, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Must be so sad, being a liberal and hoping your Messiah's poll numbers go up by firing a 4 star general. Yeah, you might impress the CodePink kooks, but then you put General "Betray Us' in charge. LOL

==

You might educate yourself a little.  Support for Obama's decision to relieve a loose cannon was praised by such Code Pink kooks as John McCain and John Boehner.  Yeah, those guys are real "commies."

Obama acted decisively for once.  Suck it up.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

From cltampa.com-

"Nelson said this is because command and control at the CG is not working."

Allen reports to Obummer right? So, who is responsible when the Coast Guard command and control is not working?

Someone ASK Harry- he was a Democrat

Posted by: thecannula | June 24, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I take it back -- I hadn't read all the way to the end. However, in terms of polls, I think this is more instructive:


"Considering the devastation that BP has caused, it’s not surprising that the company is unpopular. But a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll reveals just how low the company’s favorability ratings have plummeted — below O.J. Simpson’s and approaching those of individuals our nation has gone to war against:

Indeed, the poll shows that only 6 percent have a favorable rating of BP. In the history of the NBC News/Journal poll, Saddam Hussein (3 percent), Fidel Castro (3 percent) and Yasser Arafat (4 percent) have had lower favorable scores, and O.J. Simpson (11 percent) and tobacco-maker Philip Morris (15 percent) have had higher ratings.

Despite this historic level of disapproval, conservatives continue to make excuses for the foreign oil giant. Rep. Joe Barton’s (R-TX) infamous apology to BP executives highlighted the fact that 115 Republican Congressmen agreed that the $20 billion escrow fund to help Gulf families is a “shakedown.”

Meanwhile, the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol warned Sunday, “It’s not healthy for the country…for the President to bully” BP, and just two days ago, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) praised a right-wing columnist’s argument that the escrow fund could somehow lead to a Nazi-like dictatorship."

.. which is the kind of sick thing you say when you are really desperate.

Posted by: drindl | June 24, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Chris!

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 24, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

thecannula you are so right as always!

I also don't get why Obama wants the whole Gulf to get Moussed when he could just deploy the vast organize enterprise of equipment and people that Bush and Cheney put in place just for clean ups of spills. All the miles and miles of beach protection, the automated skimmers and the supertankers waiting nearby to suck up the oil should the very unlikely happen are just being wasted. Why doesn't Obama become man enough this once to order it into action? This is the situation Bush and Cheney foresaw and funded it all for!

And what about all the expertise that was built up in the government to shut down a problem well just like this one? Can't Obama just do his job and even issue an order to get these people working?

That is why we needed two oil men in the White House to set the country up right and protect it against all harm possible. That is real patriotism isn't it? USA!

If Obama had not removed all the regulatory protection Bush and Cheney put in place over 8 long years this would not have ever happened in the first place. Why? OH? Why? Additionally, all the oil industry insiders so carefully picked for MMS to do the biding of the industry were all that was protecting us from disaster. Why not leverage these fine citizen capitalists?

Obama really doesn't get it.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 24, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

From cltampa.com-

"Nelson said this is because command and control at the CG is not working."

Allen reports to Obummer right? So, who is responsible when the Coast Guard command and control is not working?

Someone as Harry- he was a Democrat

Posted by: thecannula | June 24, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't think there's much doubt that President Obama's approval is influenced by both the economic situation as well as the ongoing oil gusher. While Americans don't blame him as much as they blame Bush in the former case, and BP in the later, it is true that Obama's approval will improve as the situations improve.

It is not fair, not correct and not right, but Presidents get the blame for what happens on their watch and get the praise also.

Both situations are improving and will continue to improve. Neither is done, but we are on the upswing now. Obama's approval rating will lag a little, but it will follow the improvement.

Watch.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Make that Cillizza, the Decider. Hopefully, DDAWD will read this.

Posted by: JakeD3 | June 24, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Chris! Chris! What are you thinking? (What? You're not thinking?) There's no way this will have any effect on Obama's poll numbers. Why would you think that? He's going to lose points because a lot of us loved McChrystal - especially after he told the truth about Obama and the rest of the jerks in his administration. Obama is toast. Quit trying to raise his numbers! The man is a joke all around the world.

Posted by: georges2 | June 24, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Chris -- thank you for banning 37. You are doing him a favor... he is a sick individual.

Posted by: drindl | June 24, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

You pundits need to sometimes look at data before you write things. What "sliding poll numbers?? " His poll numbers have been hovering between 45 and 50% for several months. Just about where you would expect given the point in his presidency, the endless stream of grotesque lies from the republicon media, and the fact that republicons have done everything possible to carry out Ayatollah Limbaugh's fatwah to make America fail.

President Obama is the first politician with a combination of vision and the GUTS to do the things that need done, instead of doing what is popular in the short run. He is also the first politician we have had in a good long time who is willing to take responsibility, and to tell it like it is. He is, in short, a REAL leader and a REAL prsidnet. The only one we have had since the 1960s. Clinton was close, but was hamstrung by his perennial need to be liked by everyone.

Posted by: John1263 | June 24, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

So who REALLY made the decision? Rahmbo!!!!

Posted by: Jimbo77 | June 24, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Must be so sad, being a liberal and hoping your Messiah's poll numbers go up by firing a 4 star general. Yeah, you might impress the CodePink kooks, but then you put General "Betray Us' in charge. LOL

Posted by: cschotta1 | June 24, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

This post is hilarious -- 2 lines of praise then the rest of the column backstabbling Obama. Par for the course.

Posted by: drindl | June 24, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise. A rare pro-Obama Fix posting has several of the resident teabaggers foaming at the mouth.

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where do you see the pro-Obama?

He just leapfrogs over to the Urinal to "balance" faint praise with strong condemnation. Gotta place decisiveness where possible into the context of ineffectualness in another problem where decisiveness can have no effect. Obama is still a bum for not ordering the leak to stop.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

NOW, Either-Linda Young, Director of the Clean Water Network of Florida, a coalition of more than 155 groups that are committed to full implementation, enforcement and strengthening of the Clean Water Act and other safeguards of our water resources....is Lying OR

The Federal Response is woefully inadequate-

AND WHO occupies the desk where "The Buck Stops"?

Right Barack Obummer!

Posted by: thecannula | June 24, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe it! Thank you Chris, we had given up all hope.

Thank you Bob S. for not giving up.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 24, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

@LABC- "Doing Everything"? Get your head out of trhe sand before you get some Oil Mousse in your hair!

cltampa.com-

Senator Nelson says Florida needs hundreds more skimmers to combat approaching oil spill

June 15, 2010 at 8:13 am by Cathy Harrelson

The following is a letter from Linda Young, Director of the Clean Water Network of Florida, a coalition of more than 155 groups that are committed to full implementation, enforcement and strengthening of the Clean Water Act and other safeguards of our water resources.

Dear Friends of Florida’s waters:
"As I sit here typing this report, wave after wave of oil is washing ashore in Orange Beach, AL and there is not one skimmer boat in site. Nelson said this is because command and control at the CG is not working. They had no idea if there were any skimmer boats available when asked. Fortunately the Dutch government is sending their skimmer boats to us but they will not arrive until next month. They keep boats and booms (big ones, 8 ft in diameter) on hand in case of an accident. Isn’t that a novel idea?"

Our Country is Being Run by A Pseudo-intellectual, Inept

Community Organizer!

Posted by: thecannula | June 24, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Now why did that take so damned long?

When he reregisters, ban him again

Posted by: Noacoler | June 24, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

All,

37thand0street has been banned.

Chris

Posted by: Chris_Cillizza | June 24, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise. A rare pro-Obama Fix posting has several of the resident teabaggers foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 24, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Chris, if you want to lead by example on the leadership front, you might get the toxic musings of 37&Ost off of this board. He is bully and racist, and contributes nothing to this board. I am tired of his endless spewings on a daily basis.

As for Obama and the oil spill, exactly what more can he do? It is amazing to me that he can get a 20 billion dollar fund out of BP, plus a few 100,000 million to help workers affected by the spill, have federal personnel there working around the clock, and yet we get some small cross section of pouters to weigh in, as if an oil off switch wasn't flicked. Given the partisan nature of the survey (by the Wall Street journal, no less) I find the polling somewhat suspect and superficial - it is not like anyone of these folks are ever asked followup questions - like what in blue blazes would you do?

Posted by: LABC | June 24, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Obummer, the inept-

NY Times 6/23/10-

"Still, Florida residents directly experienced the effects of the oil: tar balls and oil mousse (with the consistency of sludge) washed up on the shore of Pensacola Beach and caused several areas for swimming to be closed, said a spokeswoman for the Incident Command in Mobile, Ala."

NEW DESSERT FROM OBUMMER- OIL MOUSSE- when is he going to start "cleaning up 90% of the spill" like he promised? How can he? It's still leaking and robot subs are banging into the already leaky cap! Do we have any manned subs that might drop a better one on the leak (ala Trieste II)?
Do we have a Navy lead by "THE DECIDER"?

The Gulf is OUR COMMUNITY, so why do we have BP "Organizing it"?

Posted by: thecannula | June 24, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Down 37! Down boy! STAY 37! STAY! Stay down until you are banned. Chris is finished lunch now and I'm sure he is about to get to it.


RE: Next up, Obama swats a fly to strengthen his credentials as a tough commander-in-chief. NoWeCant


Yes. I think I understand what you are saying. Firing a four star General in charge of a major war that is at a crucial stage is really very much like swatting a fly. What will they celebrate next? Right?

Posted by: BobSanderson | June 24, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse


"We are completely in the bag for Barack Obama and will never play the story straight if it involves Barry the inept bungler."

Your Editorial Staff

Posted by: screwjob16 | June 24, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

BobSanderson


Do you hate the rest of the Bill of Rights the same way you hate the First Amendment ???

How about the Fourth Amendment, which covers racial profiling ???


How about the Tenth Amendment???

You are a shrill partisan - who is motivated solely by the desire to silence your opposition.

HOWEVER, that is not the American way, is it ???


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 24, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"Obama, the decider"

Hunh? Apparently WaPo can spin anything in the demagogue's favor. Next up, Obama swats a fly to strengthen his credentials as a tough commander-in-chief.

Posted by: NoWeCant | June 24, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

Obama has BP and a rogue oil well from hell and you have 37thand0street.

Your credibility issue has an simple solution though. You need to show some "strong and decisive leadership".

Posted by: BobSanderson | June 24, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Going crazy over a few one-liners in a stoner magazine is not leadership.

AND it is certainly not the stuff of whether the country should have a nuclear war with China - which was the issue between Truman and McArthur.


SO CLEARLY - this was a lame attempt on the part of Obama to try to look good - REALLY PATHETIC ATTEMPT.

AT RISK IN THIS STUNT is the entire Afghan war - and the lives of everyone who has already died in that war.

McChrystal may ACTUALLY have been looking to leave his post anyway - not in such a dramatic, high-profile way - but McChrystal may have intentionally started this whole episode.

Which means Obama was played -

I am not at all impressed with Obama's actions here. They smack of a classic attempt to divert the public from REAL PROBLEMS - THE OIL SPILL AND THE BLAGO TRIAL IN CHICAGO.

The Blago trial in CHICAGO - is going directly to WHAT OBAMA KNEW AND WHEN HE KNEW IT.

This is classic Bill Clinton diversion at the LOW POINTS OF HIS SCANDAL.


IF YOU WATCH THE BLAGO TRIAL IN CHICAGO - YOU JUST MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TRULY BEEN BEHIND OBAMA'S STUNT THIS WEEK.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 24, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

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