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The importance of independents

In the wake of Sen.-elect Scott Brown's (R) victory over state Attorney General Martha Coakley (D) in last week's Senate special election, a debate has been raging over independents.

The conventional wisdom -- as argued in this blog and many other places -- is that the flight of independents from the Democratic party as evidenced not just in Massachusetts but in governor's races in New Jersey and Virginia in 2009 represent a major problem for Democrats heading into the midterm elections.

The counter-conventional wisdom -- as argued by political science professor John Sides (and channeled by Ezra Klein) is that there are far fewer actual independents than the 30+ percent number regularly cited by pollsters and reporters. Sides argues that only about 10 percent of the electorate is truly independent while the remainder say they are independents but lean toward one party or the other and almost always vote that lean -- making pronouncements about what independents are doing politically largely meaningless. (The Post polling unit conducted some fascinating research into the various types of independent voters in 2007.)

Into that debate lands a new analysis of the Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts races by Third Way, a moderate Democratic group. Penned by Jim Kessler, Third Way's vice president for policy, the analysis makes the case that to win in 2010 Democrats must find a way to court independents successfully.

(It's worth noting that Third Way, as its name suggests, promotes a centrist approach to governance and politics and this analysis affirms their point of view.)

The most interesting finding in Kessler's report, which takes the results in Massachusetts, Virginia and New Jersey and compares them to the results in each state in the 2008 race by scaling down turnout in the presidential contest to match the 2009/2010 turnout in each state, is that independents were by far the most motivated voters in each race.

In 2008, independents made up 31.7 percent of the electorate in those three states while that number jumped to 35.6 percent in 2009/2010. By contrast, Republican turnout stayed almost the same -- 25.9 percent in 2008, 26.6 percent in 2009/2010 -- and the Democratic turnout dropped from 42.5 percent of the electorate in 2008 to 37.8 percent in 2009/2010.

Those data points get Kessler to this conclusion:


"If the Democrats had turned out the base like they did in 2008, would they have won in either New Jersey, Massachusetts or Virginia? Perhaps. But realize that for Martha Coakley to have pulled even with Scott Brown, 172,854 more Democrats would have had to have gone to the polls. That's a 20 percent increase in turnout, and that's tough to do."

And, the post-Massachusetts poll conducted by the Washington Post would seem to affirm his point.

In 2008 independents/others comprised 40 percent of the Massachusetts electorate and President Obama won them by 17 points. Fast forward to last week -- this group made up 53 percent of the electorate and Brown crushed Coakley by a 65 percent to 34 percent margin.

By contrast, Democratic and Republican turnout dipped in Massachusetts from 2008 to 2010, as would be expected in a special election race. Democrats comprised 43 percent of the Massachusetts electorate in 2008 but just 35 percent in 2010 while Republicans were 17 percent of the 2008 electorate and just 12 percent of the 2010 one.

President Obama's election in 2008 disproved the idea -- forwarded by George W. Bush and his election strategists -- that independents were a group that was destined to forever split 50-50 for the two parties. The results of 2009 and 2010 have reinforced that sentiment.

Regardless of the debate over how to define who is really an independent, it's clear that winning the group of people who self-identify as independents -- whoever they are -- is critical to the electoral math for both parties heading into 2010.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 26, 2010; 3:03 PM ET
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First, you need to know that whoever told you Rush is leading the GOP was wrong. He actually RESIGNED as the de facto leader of the Republican Party. Second, if any politician proposed to borrow another TRILLION DOLLARS from the Chinese and dump it into the Pacific Ocean, would saying "no" to that be obtructionist too? Maybe if you got your facts straight, then you would know what to do.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I am a registered Republican, worked hard for Obama and change in Washington. I feel betrayed by Obama, I feel more betrayed by the Democratic party, that can't work together and govern. And are very susceptible to the bribes and big money they are not used to. And I will not support an obstructionist party led by the likes of Limbaugh. How can a pollster predict what I am going to do, when I do not even know myself.

Posted by: bfree123 | January 27, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"Is this what you studies [SIC] journalism for?"

LOL!!! You shouldn't be complaining about someone else's IQ.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

jasperanselm / broad____joe

Why don't you just admit it - and make it easy on yourself ???. Posted by: 37thand0street

Did 37th take that on-line course in Interrogation? He's so forceful.


Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

So, Cillizza, still think the big problem in these comments is " name calling" and "ad hominem personal attacks?"

Are you happy with all these idiotic posts from emotionally disturbed adolescents? Does the 75 IQ level of posting warm your heart?

We told you over and over to ban the f•cking trolls, but noooOOooo, instead you banned the one guy calling out their despicable racism.

You pleased with the results? Is this what you studies journalism for? To provide playing-with-poo therapy for a pair of unemployed nitwit? Way to go. Now nobody posts anymore, nobody worth reading, anyway. And you think that "maybe" 37th should be on the list. Yeah, maybe.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 27, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

What is left of the democrat's platform??


The democrats are completely out of ideas.


If you look at the stimulus package - and all the increased spending which Obama has pushed through - what else are the democrats going to do ???

Their health care plan has been showed to be unrealistic, and way too expensive.


Cap and Trade has been dusted by fake data and fake reports of glaciers melting.


So what do the democrats have left?


This goes to the heart of the question of the Independents - what do the democrats have to offer the Independents ???


The democrats are spending madly RIGHT NOW.


All the other aspects of their program are out the window.


So what do the democrats have left to offer the Independents?


Nothing.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

JakeD

Yea, well Obama lost the producer who has been talking in Rachel Maddow's ear.


Last week was telling, after the Massachusetts election results Chris Matthews was there with Rachel Maddow.


Chris Matthews was assessing the impact, saying that Obama had to go toward the center.


Rachel Maddow said she agreed with Chris Matthews - but then she went off on a rant about how Obama was not faithful to the left wing, that he had compromised too much, and that is why Obama had lost.


Maddow basically demanded that Obama go further to the left - make the health care bill even more left-wing - and jam it through anyway.


Chris Matthews did not want to have an open disagreement with her on the air, but it was clear that he couldn't believe what she was saying.


Total confusion is what is going on in the democratic party.


AND now Obama is going to try the "deficit hawk" strategy - and Rachel Maddow is calling Obama a Hooverist.


What a joke.

The democratic party really has to ask itself what is left of its platform.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama has lost Rachel Maddow?! OMG

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

Let's be honest about the two political parties - they are basically brands - which voters identify with a set of policies -


The democrats came up with the bulk of their identity with Roosevelt


The Republicans came up with their identity with Reagan and Goldwater.

Much of this is not new - and the parties really care less about any of these policies - what they care about is they have found a relatively inexpensive way to secure of base of voters for every election.

In the middle - or rather completely outside of this are the Independents - many of whom see right through this system - and many who want to see an immediate clear reason to vote for a candidate rather than adhere to a platform which was drawn up decades ago.

So what do the Independents want?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

TO: JakeD

Obama has lost not only scrivener, but tonight, Rachel Maddow, and in recent days, Paul Krugman. Talk about putting it to "the base."

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

The pervasive surveillance, community watch vigilante terrorism, slander, financial sabotage -- and physical torture and impairment of THOUSANDS of unconstitutionally "targeted" Americans continues. And the Obama administration now is fully aware -- and complicit in Bush-legacy programs of ideologically-driven personal destruction.

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

See: Poynter.org (Journalism Groups -- Reporting):

• "U.S. Silently Tortures, Impairs Americans with Cell Tower Microwaves"
• "Gestapo USA: Fed-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America"
• "U.S. Uses CBS News to Cover Up Microwave Cell Tower Torture?"

http://www.poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 OR:
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 26, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

It is sad that the democrats have created such a horrible atmosphere on this blog that almost all rational discussion has ceased.


Perhaps they are just in a bad mood because of the Massachusetts election - however their intolerance for other views has gradually increased over the years.


Democrats used to believe in Freedom of Speech - and adhere to American principles - I am not sure when all that started to change.


Perhaps it was the political correctness which started all the intolerance.


Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm / broadwayjoe


why don't you answer the question - are you working for the White House or the democratic party directly ---


just tell us.........


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

FairlingtonBlade:

No.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

@Jake: Naaaah. [Sadly] I'm a 37ologist. The new 37 does a couple of things differently from the real one that betray him. I won't say what. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 26, 2010 7:14 PM


__________________________________________

Is this person completely insane?


I'm still convinced he is working for the White House.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Fake 37, get some meds from scrivener, they might help you.

JokeD, it's waaay past your bedtime. Take your teeth out and call it a night.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Entertaining, Jake. Would that make you Agent Smith?

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 26, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

@Jake: Naaaah. [Sadly] I'm a 37ologist. The new 37 does a couple of things differently from the real one that betray him. I won't say what. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 26, 2010 7:14 PM

__________________________________________


Is this person completely insane?


I'm still convinced he is working for the White House.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse


Jake


jasperanselm signs off


then broadwayjoe is on and giving you a difficult time as well.

Now he is going to sign on/sign off the two screen names to try to prove that he is two different people.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler / GoldAndTanzanite / Chris Fox, etc.:

Again, you continue to disprove yourself every time you post (now at the maximum SIX times total in THIS thread alone) at the cost of your own honestly. FYI while you and I are on the Left Coast, I am counting the number of posts based on system time, although it barely makes a difference.

Ergo, I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, marking time at midnight Eastern Standard Time, in which case this post exceeds the sixth version. Concordantly, although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human.

Face it: your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden assiduously avoided, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here, posting more than six (6) times per day.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Jake, during your recent HOF induction, the Committee, in reciting your many records, left out some due to timelimits. A few that were omitted:

Most anti-BHO posts, lifetime.
Most "Anyone else?" posts, year.
Most posts on simultaneous threads on a single day (shared with 37 and aspergirl)
Most obsessively bizarre posts about another poster (CF8), lifetime.

Incredible.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 26, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

stupid goddamn kid

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Only three checks today.

GOP comeback. Check.
Dems in trouble. Check.
No positive mention of the 44th President of the United States. Check.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 26, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler / GoldAndTanzanite / Chris Fox, etc.:

Apropos, you continue to disprove yourself every time you post (now at five total in THIS thread alone) at the cost of your own credibility. Trust me, the matrix is older than you know. There is no place you can hide; there is no place I can't go.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

stupid goddamn kids

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

@Jake: Naaaah. [Sadly] I'm a 37ologist. The new 37 does a couple of things differently from the real one that betray him. I won't say what. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 26, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

What? First, HuffPo reports a split in the Tea Bag Party ranks and now a rift between Jake and moonbat/Zouk? Could this be the start of a true narrative in this blog--GOP in trouble--to replace the bogus "GOP comeback"?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 26, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm / broad____joe


We all know you were down on Michigan Ave last year - we all know about you.


Just admit it -


you are working for the White House - and you were working for the Obama campaign last year.


Just admit it........


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

Maybe it is the old "37" just mellowed out a bit. Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds can't hit as many home runs anymore (or other things, I hear ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse


After the past year of attempting to jam a MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM DOWN AMERICA'S THROAT, now Obama wants to be a deficit hawk?

What part of that is not believable.

It is simply silly for Obama to try to go down that path.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

B-b-but but I was looking forward to my get-rich-quick scheme starting a home-based care billing system I mean demonstration project with some small fraction of the many millions of people newly eligible for such scams.

Guess I'll hang on to my real job.

We either start with cost containment or we will never have universal coverage. We are not Switzerland, sad, but true.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 26, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm not jasperanselm but I'd be proud to side with him based on his post.

Also, Mr. 3_ is not allowed to refer to himself/itself as "37." 37 is/was a Hall of Fame Troll whose carpet posts full of three to four inches of white space and sociopathic anti-BHO craziness is the stuff of legend.

I knew 37. 37 was a frie-, er, cyber-acquaintance of mine. You, sir, are no 37.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 26, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha, very funny, Moonbat. You should abide by Mr. Cillizza's banishment as well.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

The ped and sped show looks like an all night Love affair.

Again. Who's pitchin?

Posted by: Moonbat | January 26, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

The ped and sped show looks like an all night Love affair.

Again. Who's pitchin?

Posted by: Moonbat | January 26, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Please, keep disproving that you post "at most" a half dozen times per day.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Stalker

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

Thank God!

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

"I do at most a half dozen posts in a day."

Posted by: Noacoler | January 22, 2010 5:47 PM

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/morning-fix/handicappers-forecast-dire-out.html

YOU LIE!!!

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

In addition to the three (3) posts on this thread, you posted once on the following thread:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/mike-pence-says-no-in-indiana.html

and three (3) more posts on this thread today:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/white-house/analyzing-david-plouffe-and-st.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I am not a teenager, nor am I a Republican. You, Noacoler, have now posted MORE than six (6) times today.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Happy, Cillizza? A bunch of unemployed teenage morons filling the blog with IM-speak. Duller than dishwater ... but at least they're all Republicans.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/health/policy/27health.html?hp

The end of the Great Health Industry force feeding act of 2009...is near.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 26, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse


jasperanselm / broad____joe


We all know you were down on Michigan Ave last year - we all know about you.


Just admit it -


you are working for the White House - and you were working for the Obama campaign last year.


Just admit it........


.


Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

leapin:

LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

FLANAGAN is a son of an Acting US Attorney - so what is going on here ???

Sounds like there might be more information to come out here.......


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know the penalty for wiretapping a US Senator?

Posted by: DDAWD
-------------------------------------------
A night with Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: leapin | January 26, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure they were trying to bug her phones. They were charged with "entering federal property under false pretenses for the purpose of committing a felony" (no specifics that I've seen what that "felony" was supposed to be). If convicted, FLANAGAN, BASEL, O’KEEFE, and DAI each face a maximum term of 10 years in prison, a fine of $250,000, and three (3) years of supervised release following any term of imprisonment.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/01/report-acorn-foe-arrested-by-f.html?hpid=topnews

"ACORN foe arrested by FBI in plot to bug Landrieu's office"

The guy who pretended to be a pimp in the ACORN videos got busted for trying to bug my Senator.

Anyone know the penalty for wiretapping a US Senator?

Posted by: DDAWD | January 26, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm / broad____joe


We all know you were down on Michigan Ave last year - we all know about you.


Just admit it -


you are working for the White House - and you were working for the Obama campaign last year.


Just admit it........

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm:

Who, exactly, is too "coward" to even answer my question?

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm / broad____joe


We all know you were down on Michigan Ave last year - we all know about you.

Just admit it -


you are working for the White House - and you were working for the Obama campaign last year.


Just admit it........

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Ha, ha, ha.........you're such a fool, 37; I've been on this blog a lot longer than joeshmoe. Why don't you use your own name instead of stealing someone else's. Coward?

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm / broad____joe


We all know you were down on Michigan Ave last year - we all know about you.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

jasperanselm / broad____joe

Why don't you just admit it - and make it easy on yourself ???

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Now the fake 37 sounds like scrivener. Hey, that's a step up for him!

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

JakeD


Im telling you jasperanslem is broadwayjoe.

This is a group run by the White House.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! So much for the reality-based crowd.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

This says it all. The AIP ran George Wallace for prez with the uber Dr. Stranglovian Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay as VP in 1968 and rec'd 13.5% of the vote. At least Wallace evolved while LeMay remained a wacko till his death. Though his heroic military service Berlin Airlift etc. is to be commended.

JakeD
I've been a registered member of the American INDEPENDENT Party since 1968, and I can prove it. Keep in mind that some independents are NOT middle of the road. I voted for Alan Keyes in the 2008 Presidential election.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | January 26, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I keep thinking I'm hearing something.................but it just sounds like snoring. Must be the audience at the American Independent party convention.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

If you're too scared to answer my question, that's fine with me too.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

If the fake 37 actually had a credible thought to post on this blog, we'd have to declare a federal holiday to celebrate it.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Nappy time, jokeD. Don't forget your depends.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

37th:

I doubt that he is broadwayjoe.

jasperanselm:

What was your highest post-graduate degree and from where?

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington:


jasperanselm is broadwayjoe.


They work directly for the White House - taking directions from a group run by Michelle Obama.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington:


jasperanselm is broadwayjoe.


I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to.....

At least I attempt to address the issues from time to time.


Whether people agree with me or not is really not the issue.

I can only show you the light - I can not make you leave the dark side.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

@37th - I'll ask. Given that the very name of the poster in question (drivl or the oft-banned Zouk) is an insult directed at another poster, why exactly are you so insistent on getting other posters banned? Not that it really matters as the only two banned posters keep returning under other identities.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 26, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

If Cillizza doesn't have the stones to ban you , 37, the drivltard, jokeD or moonbat then there's no reason to ban me.

This whole blog went to crap when you trolls started posting here.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The fake 37th should find his own name; you're an insult to the original. Even he had his standards.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow! The number of blog-spammers has diminished. Now that's "change we can believe in." Maybe Roslyn Mazer is having an impact here in the blogosphere. Alert the DNI!

http://nowpublic.com/world/how-u-s-spy-ops-censor-web-political-speech
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "U.S. Silently Tortures Americans with Cell Tower Microwaves"

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 26, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

jasperanselm has more "ad hominem" attacks at 3:26 and 4:01 on this thread.


That is in addition to his "ad hominem" attacks at 3:16 and 3:45 on the previous thread.

That is 4 attacks in 45 minutes


How many more do we need to get rid of these people ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Chris:

jasperanselm has more "ad hominem" attacks on this threat at 3:26 and 4:01 on this thread.


That is in addition to his "ad hominem" attacks at 3:16 and 3:45 on the previous thread.


That is 4 attacks in 45 minutes

How many more do we need to get rid of these people ???

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I guess jasperanselm is broadwayjoe

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 26, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

We can't have news of liberal corruption getting out now can we?

A conservative filmmaker whose undercover videos shone a spotlight on alleged corruption by the liberal activist group ACORN was arrested with three other men and accused of plotting to wiretap the New Orleans offices of Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La. The FBI said in an affidavit that James O’Keefe was among the four men who were arrested Monday.

Posted by: drivl | January 26, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see drivltard sticking to just one of his names today. Easier to track the ignorance.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ped and sped, at it again.

Posted by: drivl | January 26, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Gosh Jake you're sooooooo cooooool, voting for the nuddy buddy

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

EricS2:

I've been a registered member of the American INDEPENDENT Party since 1968, and I can prove it. Keep in mind that some independents are NOT middle of the road. I voted for Alan Keyes in the 2008 Presidential election. And, while a number of Democrats stayed home in Massachusetts, it WAS a special election, so even the registered GOP did not come out in force.

Posted by: JakeD | January 26, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Indies are not happy with Obama and Dems in general, but neither are they thrilled with the GOP. Americans are fed up up with politicians who represent the status quo in general, and that could bite both parties.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | January 26, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA'S UNFULFILLED 'CHANGE' DRIVES INDIES AWAY FROM DEMS

Independents are abandoning support for the Democrats mainly because President Obama has failed to bring the change he promised -- especially his pledge to restore respect for civil and human rights in an America despoiled by eight years of the Bush-Cheney Reign of Terror.

Instead, Obama has allowed Bush-Cheney leave-behinds to run his government and continue policies and programs that are denying many American citizens their inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

The Reign of (covert) Terror continues, as corrupt, secretive federal agency and command officials conduct a societal purge -- using local law enforcement as their convenient foils.

The pervasive surveillance, community watch vigilante terrorism, slander, financial sabotage -- and physical torture and impairment of THOUSANDS of unconstitutionally "targeted" Americans continues. And the Obama administration now is fully aware -- and complicit in Bush-legacy programs of ideologically-driven personal destruction.

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

See: Poynter.org (Journalism Groups -- Reporting):

• "U.S. Silently Tortures Americans with Cell Tower Microwaves"
• "Gestapo USA: Fed-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America"
• "U.S. Uses CBS News to Cover Up Microwave Cell Tower Torture?"

http://www.poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 OR:
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 26, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Kessler says
" But realize that for Martha Coakley to have pulled even with Scott Brown, 172,854 more Democrats would have had to have gone to the polls. That's a 20 percent increase in turnout, and that's tough to do."


But for the I vote to jump to 53% wasn't there a similar jump for the independent turnout? And shouldn't it be even more shocking that such a turnout jump in the independent vote happened during a special election held in the offseason?

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 26, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

This is what passes for sagacity or wisdom these days .. “not one or de udder budda liddle bidda both.”  (spits)  Yeah, the one party is too far one direction, the other party too far in the other direction, so I’m going to express my uniqueness as an individual by planting myself squarely between the two. 

What a load of bull.  Both our political parties are far right.  One farther than the other, but both far too ideological to be effective.  It’s hard to make effective policy when you believe a lot of crap about “the marketplace” and “we’re a center-right nation.”

Posted by: Noacoler | January 26, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Drivl-tard, time to take an english class. You're making sentences like GWBush and that proves how low your IQ really is.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 26, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I doubt it's a question that can be answered, but I do wonder how many "independents" are fibbing about who they are. It's easy to say "I'm an independant" in a poll if there's no way to actually know a person's voting record.

Of course, the actual answer is "The Democrats stayed home", but who really cares about that, right?

Posted by: EricS2 | January 26, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I see you have promoted the overused hackneyed phrase "in the wake of" to a topic sentence now. Let me make this clear, my two cents, It's not rocket science to think outside the box. To be perfectly honest, think of the children and don't hesitate to call if you ever learn how to write. no problem, at the end of the day, when your plate is full, it's my bad.

Posted by: drivl | January 26, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

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