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"Worst Week in Washington" Winner: Gen. David Petraeus

Yes, the easy pick for "Worst Week in Washington" this week was Gen. Stanley McChrystal.

After all, he was the guy who lost his job as head of the Afghanistan war effort after making a series of impolitic comments to -- and this is the most inexplicable part of the entire story -- Rolling Stone magazine.

But, here at the Fix we don't do what's easy. And so, it's Gen. David Petraeus, the man who President Barack Obama named as McChrystal's replacement this week, who takes home the "Worst Week in Washington" award.

Why?

You can read our full explanation in the Opinion section -- and in the Sunday Post's Outlook section! -- but here's the quick and dirty:

* Petraeus is already a bona fide war hero who now has to put his sterling reputation on the line in a war that many military strategists -- including members of McChrystal's inner circle -- view as unwinnable.

* Petraeus moves from Tampa, Florida -- home of U.S. Central Command -- to Kabul, Afghanistan. 'Nuff said.

* In some circles, Petraeus was regarded as Republicans' strongest potential 2012 candidate against Obama. His new post effectively ends that speculation.

Agree with our pick? Disagree? The comments section awaits.

By Chris Cillizza  |  June 25, 2010; 3:45 PM ET
Categories:  Worst Week in Washington  
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"Nude orgies in the streets? Body of Christ? What the devil are you on?"

This happened in San Fran. The parade eventually spilled in to a church. The Catholic Church teaches that the host, or Eucharist, is the actual Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, of Christ. It is, therefore, to be treated with respect and reverence.

So, when a clown comes in from the streets, interrupts the mass, and spits the host, the Body of Christ, onto the floor, that is desecration.

If I am a bigot for opposing this rediculous behavior, there is no point in arguing with you.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 29, 2010 6:44 AM | Report abuse

When you're deeply asleep, you're not "functioning as a human being."

I guess it's OK for me to kill you, right?

Either all people have the right to life, or some people have a right to life.

The history of the latter is rather dark.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 29, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

As for gay pride, that stood on its own. I think I have a right to oppose nude orgies in the streets, spilling into the Church, dessecrating the Body of Christ. I think I also have the right to oppose gay marriage without being labeled a "bigot" by the venomous left.

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Nude orgies in the streets? Body of Christ? What the devil are you on?

And thanks for defining necrophilia for me after I taught you how to spell it. I speak four languages and I know my Latin and Greek roots, thanks. And oh, her name was "Shiavo" and she was a vegetable. That's some culture of life and congruent with my impression of you that a mindless shell would be a functioning human being.

You seem to labor under a misapprehension that this place is email. Anyone can respond to any post. Deal.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

"Nobody has ever been censured here for even the most rancid bigotry, from Jake's racism to zouk's homophobia, but I was expelled three times for calling out racism. Bigots are coddled, calling them out is a ban while calling another poster a pedophile goes unremarked."

And this is every single day.

and then we have the 'democrap socialist' moron.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I frankly don't see what is so offensive about the "professor-in-chief" comment.

As for gay pride, that stood on its own. I think I have a right to oppose nude orgies in the streets, spilling into the Church, dessecrating the Body of Christ. I think I also have the right to oppose gay marriage without being labeled a "bigot" by the venomous left.

[Can't you be open minded enough to allow dissent from your lockstep? I thought not.]

You chose to combine it [gay pride] with the necrophiliac comment, which I've told you before (have you forgotten your classical Greek?) means "lover of Death" -- IE, someone who does not love life, but chooses instead to love/support death (via abortion, state-sponsored "mercy" killings [Terry Chivo], and the death penalty.)

I happen to be a lover of life -- from natural beginning to natural end. I do not endorse your culture of death.

If these comments are so offensive, I have a hard time seeing how you can reasonably claim to have ever "argued" with anyone; the whole idea of "arguing" implies a reliance on logical analysis, not Ad Hominem attacks.

I'm afraid you are incapable of controlling yourself.

BTW, I wasn't even addressing you. You're just seeking out reasons to get angry. Self-rightous indignation. It's a drug. You're no better than the stupid teens in Canada protesting for fun, with no knowledge of issues. You intentionally seek out opportunities to get yourself into a tizzy.

I pity you.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 28, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse

"professor in chief"

"gay pride necro[ph]iliac"

Thanks for absolutely affirming my initial impression, Mike. You sound like a real nasty piece of work.

Ugh. I'm glad there is an ocean separating us. My fellow American. Anyone aside from Palin you don't hate?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 3:01 AM | Report abuse

leichtman1 -- I wrongly assumed you had the ability to read not only what was written, but [often more importantly] what was not.

"Let me be clear" [a famous phrase from the professor-in-chief which immediately precedes a lie, but in my case will not.]: I have no fu**ing idea where he stands on any issues important to me, outside of national defense/terrorism.

So, to ask me where he would stack up in my fantasy-football GOP primary, is ABSURD.

This is not me side-steping a question; it is the [usually commendable] reluctance to speculate on the un-knowable [which immediately excludes me from ever being a talking head on TV.]

What was not said [what I assumed went without saying] -- if he turns out to be a tax & spend, gay pride, cultural pornification advocate, pro-death necrofiliac who just happens to be strong on national security, then yes -- (1) I don't think he would fair well in a primary, and (2) I probably would not support him.

What I *did* say, which I thought illuminated this point clearly enough [for most readers, that is], is that the *IDEA* of him running is an exciting thing, which *REPRESENTS* the national discontent with the campaigner-in-chief.

Clear as mud?

(So, bottom line, I, as a member of "GOP circles" CC refers to, have heard the idea of a Gen P candidacy. I do not by any means believe CC is a conservative, but nevertheless am impressed at his finger on our pulse. Thune, Petraeus, Kasich, Palin, Jindal -- these are the "dark horses" and/or "outsiders" we are looking for. We do, after all, have the right to speculate don't we? Is that OK with you?)

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 28, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Real Clear Politics Says "OBUMMER"

Obummer Approval Poll- And the Oil Isn't Even in South Beach Yet:
Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 6/16 - 6/26 -- 46.9 46.9 Tie
Gallup 6/24 - 6/26 1547 A 45 46 -1
Rasmussen Reports 6/24 - 6/26 1500 LV 45 54 -9
Newsweek 6/23 - 6/24 964 A 48 46 +2
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 6/17 - 6/21 1000 A 45 48 -3
Pew Research 6/16 - 6/20 1802 A 48 43 +5
CBS News/NY Times 6/16 - 6/20 1259 A 47 43 +4
CNN/OpinionResearch 6/16 - 6/16 534 A 50 48 +2

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Same thing Jake did when Murtha and Tedfy Kennedy were dying and when they died. These guys call themselves conservatives but a more accurate word will get blocked by the nanny filters.

So I'll limit myself to wishing a nice dope arrest for our little nuisance and a few years fellating and bottoming for men of color and emerging prolapsed and HIV+. Considering the wasted time fir so many readers it still isn't enough.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

37th is a WITLESS TOAD.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 27, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

anyone wanting to know how low and dispicable 37th has sunk need only read his
dispicable post at 4:14 pm about Senator Byrd.
Sane people would offer their thoughts and prayers to any public servant who has spent his entire life in service to his country likely in his final days. Nope not 37th he rehashes Byrd's very distant past to trash a dying man. What absolute trash. With any luck you will be finally be out of here tomorrow.
Don' t let the door hit you. Absolutely no none here will miss your garbage posts and totally self centered diatribes. As they say 37th, what goes around comes around.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 27, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

anyone wanting to know how low and dispicable 37th has sunk need only read his
dispicable post at 4:14 pm about Senator Byrd.
Sane people would offer their thoughts and prayers to any public servant who has spent his entire life in service to his country likely in his final days. Nope not 37th he rehashes Byrd's very distant past to trash a dying man. What absolute trash. With any luck you will be finally be out of here tomorrow.
Don' t let the door hit you. Absolutely no none here will miss your garbage posts and totally self centered diatribes. As they say 37th, what goes around comes around.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 27, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

37th,

Where did you get this crazy idea that there is some organization out to shut you up. I have told you there isn't. MargaretMeyers told you the same thing.

What's up with this moveon thing anyway?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse


The leftists like broadwayjoe, ddawd, noacoler and the others rather continue their petty name-calling, sexual slurs - stirring up bigots in South Carolina - and it goes on and on.


The leftists on this board want to talk about anything but what a horrible job Obama is doing - and anything but what is important to this nation.


NOW - the leftists want a TOTALITARIAN SOLUTION - SUPPRESSION OF DISSENT.


Is there any other parts of the Bill of Rights they want to get rid of - or do they want to trash the entire Constitution.


Remember Obama has referred to the Constitution as having "birth defects" - WHICH I FIND OFFENSIVE -


But this is how the Obama people truly feel about our CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS.


The leftists seem to be putting a great deal of time into SUPPRESSION OF DISSENT - AND THEY ALSO APPEAR REALLY INVESTED IN IT.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Brigade


The main problem here is the leftists do not want to hear about what a disaster Obama is.


The stimulus is a failure - unemployment is way up

The Afghan Was is going badly.

Obama can not manage the Federal Agencies properly - resulting in the LACK OF PROPER SAFETY INSPECTIONS ON OIL RIGS - A PROBLEM OBAMA SAID WAS BEING ADDRESSED.

The recession is headed for a double-dip.

Obama has embarassed this country when he has gone abroad - against all diplomatic traditions. The other countries laugh at Obama.

Obama has a terrorism policy which favors the terrorists - and puts American citizens at greater risk.


Obama has been pre-occupied with a far-left wing agenda that the country does not want - it will be undone - and it is an incredible waste of time - especially when there are far more pressing issues.

Obama has proven OVER AND OVER that he is not qualified for the position.

The leftists do not want to hear any of this - they rather continue their petty name-calling, sexual slurs - stirring up bigots in South Carolina - and it goes on and on.

The leftists on this board want to talk about anything but what a horrible job Obama is doing - and anything but what is important to this nation.

NOW - the leftists want a TOTALITARIAN SOLUTION - SUPPRESSION OF DISSENT.

Is there any other parts of the Bill of Rights they want to get rid of - or do they want to trash the entire Constitution.

Remember Obama has referred to the Constitution as having "birth defects" - WHICH I FIND OFFENSIVE -

But this is how the Obama feel about our CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Sunlight wrote,
"Brigade
When you said "white opponent" you hit it correctly.
broadwayjoe is SEEKING TO STIR UP BIGOTS."

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Exactly. You see it will shoot a hole in Joe's worldview if 70% of South Carolina's white voters show up for a candidate of color while the African-Americans are all out bootlicking and buckdancing for the white Democrat. Just like old times.

It would be like Noacoler finding out there are actually gay Republicans. He would be so devastated, he could probably be found dangling from a rafter the following day.

Posted by: Brigade | June 27, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line is the rules are too vague - no one is sure what gets enforced and what doesn't - because the leftists have been getting away with serious offensees for a long, long time.

That is a valid point.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

That would be you. Have a good time at the dump.

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Yet worth 90 minutes of your life collating my posts. And I thought 37th had too much free time..

Why don't you collect my wit and wisdom since showing up here and pay to have it published in hardback, loser.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 8:12 PM
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I'm sure it would have taken a buffoon like you 90 minutes; me, hardly so much. I really wish you'd leave some wit and wisdom for me to collect. I think we'd all rather see some of that than more of the bile and nonsense. But if your wisdom and wit to date is any indication of your coding skills, you can't really expect to paid much for either.

Oh, and by the way, I've slept with black women, so you can never say or imply that I'm a racist. Right? Your logic.

Posted by: Brigade | June 27, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Margaret

The FIRST AMENDMENT IS ABOUT TOLERANCE.


It is not about any of the things you mention.

All of that, like most of your comments, is irrelevant.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

That would be you. Have a good time at the dump.

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Yet worth 90 minutes of your life collating my posts. And I thought 37th had too much free time..

Why don't you collect my wit and wisdom since showing up here and pay to have it published in hardback, loser.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Brigade

When you said "white opponent" you hit it correctly.


broadwayjoe is SEEKING TO STIR UP BIGOTS.


broadwayjoe is trying to stir up racist sentiments.


Is that post-racial ???? These Obama people are unbelievable.


They want to be able to throw out FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM AGAINST THE TEA PARTY.


But when they see some electoral beneiit to stirring up RACISM, they go for it.


The Obama people can not be trusted at all.


Obama committed himself to being post-racial.


That means NO FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM - or using racist charges at all in political discourse.


Too bad Obama is a liar - because this situation has actually set racial relations BACK 40 years.


A very sad result.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Waiting on the moderator to take out the trash again

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 7:33 PM
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That would be you. Have a good time at the dump.

Posted by: Brigade | June 27, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Margaret


The moveon.org people are not upset with the CONTENT ?


and how many people here - including yourself - are not guilty of the same things ???


The leftists attack, attack, attack, name-call, attack - make false charges of racism -

AND all you have to say is this ????

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Troll summary from the weekend thread:

Broadwayjoe: dozens of posts obsessing that Nikki Haley's name isn't really Nikki Haley. The relevance? This means she is a political opportunist so all bigots should vote for the white guy.

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Some Noacoler nuggets:

Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh. (june 25)
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I guess zouk the the other uh conservatives think he (Obama) should be the caddy, right? Thought so. (june 25)
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@BWJ: anyone NOT think that CC's private communications refer to "ni66ers" and "sp|cs?" (june 25)
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Yeah how low would his approval have to be before any of those nutbags and snoozelords could have a shot? (june 25)
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@BWJ, do you really think that bigotry against dark-skinned people would carry as much career peril as dissing Matt Drudge? I do t think so.
Surely the post has to know the slant here and approve it, surely the coddling of racists and homophobes in this blog can't have gone unnoticed, not this long. My guess is that it's known and sanctioned.
(june 25)
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well there goes the neighborhood, now comes a firehose of sewage from brigade-zouk (june 25)
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Way to bat your eyes, brigade, and pretend to miss the point. But then that's all you have, the turnaround shtick. You and half the sixth graders who see shrinks in the country,. . .
EVERY Muslim convert takes a Muslim name, it'd be strange if Clay hadn't. Grow one, would you? (june 25)
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matter of fact I think libertarians should be gassed (june 25)
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Suit yourself, BB, I have solid justifications if I choose to be angry .. as it turns out you're misreading derision as anger. (june 25)
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You lie like aveug. The only poster here who didn't date he wanted 37th gone was you. Birds of a feather. (june 26)
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Thanks Brigade but you've enough lies in the archives already, you didn't really need to corroborate my post with a fresh batch. (june 26)
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Go away, don't come back, go bother someone else. (june 26)
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I've gone to bed with Indian men, which I wouldn't do with a people I'm prejudiced against. Anyway. (june 26)
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What does he (CC) have to do before you notice, call Obama by the N-word? Not a big jump to believe he does, in private. (june 26)
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Armpeg, you are a fool. (june 27)
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I might regard him as the long-sought Conservative Contributor were I still willing to go on believing in that Grail quest, which I'm not. And Mike cheesed me off right away with the "social conservative" stuff. Sorry, I'm gay, and social conservative is a six-syllable pseudonym for bigot. (june 27)
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The regular posters seeking to make this an unpleasant place are zouk, brigade, and you, 37th aka sunstroke. (june 27)
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There's more, but you get the idea. No one contributes more raw sewage to this blog than Noacoler, and he has the audacity to call for the banning of someone else. Not one postive or interesting or relevant post in the lot.


Posted by: Brigade | June 27, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Sunlight/37th/Priest/etc.

I will tell you, on the heads of my children, that I am not a member of Move On, I have never given them money and I delete their unread emails.

There is no politically-motivated or paid cabal against you here. We are only united in resenting your presence here.

We DO hate


HOW OFTEN YOU POST

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HOW STUPID YOUR POSTS ARE

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HOW OFF-TOPIC YOUR POSTS ARE

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YOUR VERY SAD FISHING FOR ATTENTION.

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YOUR USE OF YOUR SPACE BAR.


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YOUR LOCKED CAPS KEY

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HOW STUPID YOUR POSTS ARE

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HOW YOU REPEAT YOURSELF

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We also hate whoever pays or enables you to be here all day like a great whining baby. I'm sorry that I just fed you. Your mom will remind you to bathe and comb your hair

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Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 27, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh yea Noacoler


What do you find offensive now ???

When are you leaving yourself - you have been banned - you don't respect those enforcements - what makes you think that your position on this enforcement should be different ???

YOUR actions speak differently.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Several posters have been asked if they are working with moveon.org in an effort to have liberal voices control this board.


NONE of them have denied this.

Instead - they have all organized an attempt to ban CONSERVATIVE POSTERS - in an effort to silence those points of view.

Clearly, this is an organized effort - offensive to Freedom of Speech.

But to have an interest group - ASTROTURF the Washington Post in an effort to silence dissent is just unAmerican. There is no other way to describe it.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Waiting on the moderator to take out the trash again

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Cannula


I agree that Obama's failed management of Minerals Management Service - all the while he was saying that he was addressing the problems there - might not be the WORST thing Obama has done.


I think the WORST thing Obama has done is his speech at West Point December 1 - in which OBAMA GAVE THE ENEMY A PULL-OUT DATE.


Many people believe this was exceedingly STUPID.

Obama just may have completely destroyed the effectiveness of the Surge in Afghanistan with that one sentence.

Obama has a FAILED MILITARY STRATEGY in Afghanistan.

McChrystal was more than happy to leave - rather than continue a Biden-inspired flawed military plan that was sure to sink.


Obama NEEDS a new strategy in Afghanistan - he needs to ANNOUNCE THAT THE JULY 2011 DATE IS OUT AND WILL NOT BE USED AT ALL.

Obama needs to announce the CONDITIONS for the withdraw of troops.

I sense there is a disagreement between the White House and the Pentagon over the condidtions - and WHETHER there will be conditions AT ALL.

I have never heard a President in a speech start to list this General agrees with my policy, this General agrees with my policy, this General has agreed to my policy.


Amazingly, that means the Generals do NOT agree with his policy, BUT they are agreeing to go along with it.

NOT good.

It ALSO means that Obama's military policies are not SOUND MILITARY STRATEGIES.

It is clear, Obama has MAJOR PROBLEMS IN AFGHANISTAN.

Fasten your seat belt, Obama's administration is tanking BADLY -

The stimulus hasn't worked, the economy is headed into a stimulus-less second phase

AND we have Obama who is STILL more concerned with jamming his far left-wing nonsense through - instead of managing the US economy, government and military properly.

This is a serious situation.

And moveon.org and the leftists are MORE CONCERNED about silencing dissent than addressing the issues.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Cannula


The rules on this board are too vague to make any sense.


To judge from the behavior of the leftists, they have gotten away with everything they claim to oppose.

So who is to know which rules will be enforced ?

It appears that only when there is a partisan campaign by moveon.org does any enforcement take place.

So, enforcement is a function of the liberal mob - sort like like burning cars in Toronto - the Tea Party would be vilified for doing it - the left does handstands next to the burning car and laughs.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's ask what is the MOST IMPORTANT THING to the bloggers on this board

1) The economic crisis - the biggest recession since the 1930s


2) The Oil Spill - and the income to millions of people in the Gulf region


3) The Immigration crisis - half a million illegal aliens in Arizona alone


4) Obama's failed military strategy in Afghanistan - which Leon Panetta today said was unwinnable.

5) The threat of terrorism in America - with the Times Square bomber, bombs on planes, and the Fort Hood shooting

6) The European debt crisis - threatening the US economy as well

7) The Suppression of the Freedom of Speech of 37.


To read these bloggers this weekend #7 is the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY.

What say you - bloggers who know so much ??

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

@Chris- Noacoler calls conservative blogging "NOISE" while being afraid to engage-

12Bar calls us "Foghorns" while being afraid to engage-

I want to put them in the same Double Secret Probation you placed 37th in-

Since I don't like computer generated or music inspired handles and your "banning" only means that the blogger gets a new name-

Hey Chris- Your Banning is like OBUMMER'S Gulf community organizing- INEPT

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

12Bar


BP's main problem is if the price of oil came down -


If the price of oil went below $60 a barrel, BP would start having problems -

So the price of oil is a major factor.

To take it one step further - the stimulus has failed, and there is growing sentiment that we will have a double-dip recession.


That means less demand for oil - China goes into recession.


IN that scenario, oil goes back to $40 a barrel - and BP isn't making as much.

THAT is BP's nightmare scenario - not anything that has to do with damage to the Gulf.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

12Bar


There are several approaches to look at BP


One approach - the spill is an added liability to the balance sheet.


So the total projected costs of the spill EQUALS the pre-spill market capitalization minus the present market capitalization.

So, if the pre-spill market capitalization was $180 Billion and today it is $75 Billion -


That means, in this example, the market is pricing the costs of the spill to be $105 Billion.

As the market capitalization changes - the estimated cost of the spill changes.

Because most of BP is the same as it always was - earning the same as it would have without the spill.

So, the potential problems are 1) raising short-term cash to cover the immediate needs


and 2) IF the estimated costs exceed the market capitalization, there is a problem.

Of course, credit default swaps, credit lines, and all that still play a role.

But you do have a company which is pumping out $16 Billion a year - so in 3 months BP has $4 Billion MORE for the spill.

BP can also OPT to stop paying people, or slow that all down - or LIMIT its payments to let's say one billion a month.

They could say, we are paying no more than a billion a month, and sue us for the rest - and you will get your money in 10 years.

It's just not that bad a situation in terms of the money available.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Headed out, but HuffPo's Sam Stein has the backstory on the Weigel matter and mentions Carlson's involvement in what happened to Dave. Sad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/25/dave-weigels-firing-the-b_n_625836.html

Out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Isn't that what CC told us all to do when we complained about the foghorns? Ignore those foghorns. That is what he said. He said that would solve the problem. The foghorns would get tired and would go away. Right.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Still - no talk of the LEFTIST VIOLENCE IN TORONTO

no talk of Obama's people not performing the safety inspections on the oil rig properly.

no talk of Biden's ABSOLUTE ANGER at someone mentioning "lower taxes"


JUST SUPPORT FOR SUPPRESSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

This is a mob - trying to violate someone's civil rights

Just like a mob trying to prevent blacks from voting - no difference.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

You, too, 12.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Trying to get a word in edgewise with all the foghorns going off,

the reason I brought up BP's share value, is that Obama and Cameron met at the G20 meeting to try to calm the waters somewhat on BP. It doesn't benefit anyone if BP's shares continue to dive, causing an eventual complete financial collapse of the company.

It is to our benefit that BP stay alive, and well to pay the claims, and if anyone picks up the slack, it isn't the U.S. Let's hope that's how it comes out.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

CBS News Just reported that BP hired recreational boaters and commercial boaters fro Texas and Florida over commercial boaters who are losing all of their income in Louisiana! BP pays these boaters 1200-3000 dollars a day plus 200/day for each crew member- the Louisiana boaters are livid- I guess you libs think that they all conservatives and therefore are getting what they deserve-RIGHT?

Who the F@#K voted for BP??? Do we HAVE A POTUS?

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

12Bar

So you are saying that British taxpayers would just be happy at bailing out BP - with their money flowing through BP to the Gulf Coast of the United States ???

Well - I'm not sure but it would be the British people who would have to say whether they want that or not.

AND the shareholders - would that bailout benefit the shareholders of BP - 60% of whom are outside of Britain ??

40% of BP's shareholders are in the US - are you proposing that the British government bail them out too - and let them benefit so their share prices go back to the pre-spill levels ????


NOT sure what you are saying

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Private to Fix IT guy (for Monday morning): 37's new handle is "sunlight."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

All weekend NO ONE has said anything about Noacoler - who has been BANNED 3 TIMES - and is still here.

So someone who is a part of your MOVEON.ORG group does not get any complaints - yet mention ?


Is that how you play YOUR PARTISAN GAMES ?

Well, that just destroys the legitimacy of your complaints.


Broadwayjoe - you are a crybaby - just admit why you hate Nikki Haley and Sarah Palin.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

@bwj,

Have a good weekend.

Every WaPo blog, except for the Fix, is nothing but Weigel. Was it really Tucker Carlson who leaked the emails? Or is that speculation?

Anyway, the posts are mostly shock and dismay, but people felt that he will absolutely land on his feet. The dismay was mainly aimed at WaPo.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Funny as hell how the foghorn trolls go nuts when they don't get traction. Good job, guys, just hold out till Monday.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse


The Left shattered windows, fought police, burned cars - and got 400 people arrested this weekend.

Ouch


Anyone condemning the violence here ??? anyone have anything to say about it ?


Or just a silly rant about Nikki Haley -

and the LEFT'S DESIRE TO SUPPRESS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH OF 37 ???

.

Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

@noa, Love to peek into PostWorld on Monday morning. Guarantee you the Dave Weigel issue will be the No. 1 topic at the water cooler. Trust me: the canning of a Post writer/blogger for a private email expressing a personal opinion about an extremely controversial individual (Drudge) is a disturbing precedent, a standard that could catch a lot of people. :-)

IMO, a lot of folks at WashPo will be checking emails bright and early. Can you spell "delete"?

Out. Have a great week.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Did you see the continuing fall in BP shares. Down to $27 and change for a total decline of $90 billion. Nomura Trading told its clients that BP needs additional equity financing--along with sovereign wealth backing. That's why the shares continue to slide as investors are worried about the ongoing costs to BP and their short term working capital.

We'll see if Great Britain stands up and stands behind BP. I suppose that U.S. conservatives would be against Great Britain "bailing out" a private corporation and wouldn't accept a stronger BP's ability to pay off the costs of the gusher.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Well the leftists are being VIOLENT this weekend in Toronto

If the tea party did that, the leftists here would never, ever let go of it.

This is the CENTRAL DECEPTION OF THE LEFTISTS

I hear the complaint about "deception" here.

But nothing about the deceptions of these EXACT BLOGGERS.

NOTHING ABOUT OBAMA'S PROMISES OF BIPARTISANWHIP.

NOTHING ABOUT BEING POST-RACIAL.


If the democrats were truly post-racial, then a democrat like broadwayjoe NEVER post anything like the racism posted against Nikki Haley.

And yet, all this is passed off as "civil discourse" - throw in some venem and name calling by Noacoler -

AND YOU HAVE THE MOVEON.ORG BLOG - CONTROLLING THE MESSAGE WITH DECEPTION, LIES AND ONE-SIDEDNESS.

That is not political discourse.

That is not civil discussion.


It is a desire to impose an Orwellian nightmare onto American Democracy.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Oil in The Florida Keys
Oil in Miami
Oil in Virginia Beach

I'll be on Vacation when y'all be ignoring this growing disaster-

Hope Nevill O'Bummer takes control of the capping/cleanup while I am away- I hope he puts together a contingency plan if the second relief well fails- took 5 in Mexico in 200 ft of water...

I'll be back by then- hoping he gets his act together- unfortunately doubtful.....inept at organizing the Gulf community

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

noa, remember, until Macaca, Allen was seriously in line to be POTUS. Fortunately, Macaca and follow-up information from the blogosphere forced the Post and the MSM to publish information his abhorrent "views," which of course they were already aware of.

Nim would be much much worse because, as she pushes the tea bagger agenda, she will deflect criticism by playing the race/religion/gender card even though teabaggerism opposes civil rights for racial and religious minorities and for women.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Yea, bring up McDonell - the last issue the democrats were able to talk about BEFORE THE OIL SPILL MADE IT OBVIOUS THAT OBAMA IS INCOMPETENT.

The talk on this board is silly without the Conservatives.


The leftist echo-chamber which the leftists crave is ridiculous and silly.

Look at how what they were talking about this weekend.


ON Friday they even had a fight amongst themselves about some silly issue.

Noacoler - call some more people some names - you haven't done that enough this weekend.


broadwayjoe - all attention to more hidden (nonexistent) racism some more - and bring up Nikki Haley 50 more times - its not like you are repeating yourself, right ?


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Yea - the leftists want to talk about a cancelled convention - instead of all the LEFTIST VIOLENCE IN TORONTO THIS WEEKEND.


WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT ?


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Well yeah BWJ that's the essential point... just look how much trouble McDonnell has turned out to be, celebrating the confederacy and governing as a social conservative nutjob after pretending to be a moderate.

Randhawa would be a whole lit worse, another Palib on board with handing the country to the corporations and turning the clock back to the robber barons. Wed have kids learning brand loyalty in grade school and extinction of wildlife to make room for malls.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The leftists discuss how THEY would replace Bryd

NOTHING ABOUT HIS LIFE IN THE KKK

AND ALL THE KKK TITLES BYRD HELD.


LIKE GRAND KEAGLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT


Robert Byrd reminds us all of when all the democrats were in the KKK -


and the democrats protected the KKK.

The democratic party does NOT have a pretty history.


And yet everyone else is the bad guy.

I wonder why the democrats started that narrative ? To distract people away from how bad the democrats are ? Yea, obviously.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

It is NOT the tea party which is burning cars and getting 400 people arrested in Toronto this weekend.

It is the LEFTISTS DOING THAT.


Any mention about that ??? No.

Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Cannula


The leftists do not want to talk about the OIL SPILL


or the horrible ECONOMY

they rather have a racist discussion about Nikki Haley.

And they claim they are more civil than anyone else.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"Noise"- computer generated moniker- (no original thought)

It's amazing SUNLIGHT- You call Obummer inept and the liberals have NO answer- they just ignore the post AND IT's a matter of opinion- YOU got thrown out for calling him Black- which is 50% factual-NOTHING on the oil spill?-

THAT's what makes Obummer our Neville Chamberlain- just another Inept Intellectual

Friday, June 25, 2010 Miami Herald
Florida official slams federal oil spill response

At Florida's Pensacola Beach on Thursday morning, a digital greeting sign flashed: “Oil on beach, stay out of gulf." But when the county health department...

Los Angeles Times (blog) ( 6/25/2010 2:56:16 PM -08:00 )
Florida official slams federal oil spill response


Reuters ( 6/25/2010 2:24:37 PM -08:00 )
Pensacola Beach reopons after heavy oil washes up

MiamiHerald.com ( 6/25/2010 2:18:18 PM -08:00 )
Oil Spill Hell: Swimming Amid Tar Balls on a Florida Beach
Nothing like a little summer sun and letting the kids run through tar balls in the sand. What's more sad and shocking about this YouTube clip,...

TIME ( 6/25/2010 6:37:57 AM -08:00 )
Pensacola cleanup: last stand against Gulf oil spill
Crews in Pensacola are cleaning up the beach as the area braces for a fight against the odds.

BY MARY ELLEN KLAS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH PENSACOLA BEACH -- A...
MiamiHerald.com ( 6/25/2010 3:29:55 AM -08:00 )
Gulf oil spill: More Florida beaches close as leak continues to spread
Beachgoers walk past a health advisory sign that has been posted along the beaches in Pensacola, Fla. Officials in Florida closed more...

Obummer our Neville Chamberlain- Inept Intellectual-

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"Noise"- computer generated moniker- (no original thought)

It's amazing SUNLIGHT- You call Obummer inept and the liberals have NO answer- they just ignore the post AND IT's a matter of opinion- YOU got thrown out for calling him Black- which is 50% factual-NOTHING on the oil spill?-

THAT's what makes Obummer our Neville Chamberlain- just another Inept Intellectual

Friday, June 25, 2010 Miami Herald
Florida official slams federal oil spill response

At Florida's Pensacola Beach on Thursday morning, a digital greeting sign flashed: “Oil on beach, stay out of gulf." But when the county health department...

Los Angeles Times (blog) ( 6/25/2010 2:56:16 PM -08:00 )
Florida official slams federal oil spill response


Reuters ( 6/25/2010 2:24:37 PM -08:00 )
Pensacola Beach reopons after heavy oil washes up

MiamiHerald.com ( 6/25/2010 2:18:18 PM -08:00 )
Oil Spill Hell: Swimming Amid Tar Balls on a Florida Beach
Nothing like a little summer sun and letting the kids run through tar balls in the sand. What's more sad and shocking about this YouTube clip,...

TIME ( 6/25/2010 6:37:57 AM -08:00 )
Pensacola cleanup: last stand against Gulf oil spill
Crews in Pensacola are cleaning up the beach as the area braces for a fight against the odds.

BY MARY ELLEN KLAS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH PENSACOLA BEACH -- A...
MiamiHerald.com ( 6/25/2010 3:29:55 AM -08:00 )
Gulf oil spill: More Florida beaches close as leak continues to spread
Beachgoers walk past a health advisory sign that has been posted along the beaches in Pensacola, Fla. Officials in Florida closed more...

Obummer our Neville Chamberlain- Inept Intellectual-

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

noa: Great question. For sure, if Nim isn't going to fess up about her real name she's not going to her us why it doesn't end in "Singh." Maybe Fix and his interns can do some journalism-ing on this?
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BTW, the reason Nimrata's candidacy IS a big deal is that BHO's opposition plans to use Nim as a Palin-type Trojan Horse for a very nasty agenda of hate, intolerance, and unrestrained corporatism that will hurt many Americans.

When the BHO haters bring their tea bag agenda front and center, count on Nim (if elected) being the front person on Faux News to argue we should abolish the civil rights laws and environmental regulations, bring back Jim Crow, ignore reasonable accommodations for the disabled, racially profile Latinos, and pursue "Second Amendment" solutions for Members of Congress they don't like.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Riddle me this: What name would Nimrata/Nikki go by if interviewed by the New Delhi bureau of the Spartanburg [SC] Herald-Journal?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 4:41 PM
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She would immediately change her name to a one name only (like Cher, Madonna). Her's would be Governor.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

" the noise level" - 7 Eleven Slurpee Salesman With Moniker Generated by the Company Computer


Sorry If The discussion of The WORST Environmental Disaster in Obbummer's own words- for what they are worth- is "noise" in the liberal lingo- guess it's more important to get 37th ejected- have a life?

I'm learning to play mah jongh right now with my wife and daughter- just finished emailing the twins @ camp...

is the Slurpee machine working well today?

what's the powerball jackpot up to?

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

"If nim/nik is going to Sikh temple, she better claim she's standing out front handing out Christian brochures. And she better stick to some kinda story like that. Might work.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:27 PM"
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LOL. I agree with an earlier noa post: If the opposition has a photo or video of Nimrata doing her Sikh thing in Sikh garb, it's game-over for Nim. Again, the Indian American community also seems unhappy about Nimrata's sad charade as "Nikki Haley" and her seeming disavowal of her real name, race, and culture.
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Riddle me this: What name would Nimrata/Nikki go by if interviewed by the New Delhi bureau of the Spartanburg [SC] Herald-Journal?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

@bwj,

Thanks for the info on Byrd. I guess I'm not the first to ask the question.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't her last name Singh?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 4:25 PM
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Good question.

True story: I was part of a team who recruited a Sikh for one of our business units. Great guy, very dynamic, very well educated and an excellent technical background. Our Chairman thought he'd be absolutely great because as he put it "the problem when you are selling work is to have the client remember you. With that turban, I guarantee Dr. Singh will be remembered." That, and being about 6 1/2 feet tall, and then the turban on top of that.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Byrd:

"Under state law, if Byrd dies in office, the governor would have to appoint someone to fill the seat until the next general election, said Bob Bastress, a professor at the West Virginia University College of Law.

Bastress added that the governor may be able appoint himself to the seat should it become open, but he called that a political unlikelihood.

"The talk is that, if Byrd resigns, Manchin would appoint a caretaker until he (Manchin) could run in 2012 when Byrd's term and Manchin's gubernatorial term expire," wrote Bastress in an e-mail interview."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

If nim/nik is going to Sikh temple, she better claim she's standing out front handing out Christian brochures. And she better stick to some kinda story like that. Might work.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Obummer is letting the same FOREIGN company that caused the oil spill by taking dangerous shortcuts try to Stop the oil spill BY TAKING DANGEROUS SHORTCUTS- really smart to cut that Riser Pipe off-

OBUMMER's an Inept Intellectual- THAT's why the press doesn't even write about the Louisiana beaches turning black anymore- now it's all about the beaches of Florida- when it hits Miami- the Black will hit the Fan !!!

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't her last name Singh?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

If she believes that you can be both, then she should say that up front."
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Memo to Nikki--whatever you say, don't say that! I don't know much about evangelicals, except that I know that being a merged christ-sikh is NOT going to be acceptable.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Looking forward to a reduction in the noise level here once the moderator shows up. Thank heavens for vertical scrolling.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

About Nimrata Randhawa...from a SC pastor

"She claims to be a Christian but also attends a Sikh temple and was married in a Sikh ceremony, so a lot of people can't figure how you can claim both," [Pastor]Popham told CNN. "I think she needs to be straight up with people, if she is both. If she believes that you can be both, then she should say that up front."
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He's saying: Tell the truth, Nim, that's all the voters and the Indian-American community asks.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

12bar: Governor Joe Manchin (D) would appoint a successor, no special election.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 4:14 PM
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That's good. Do you know if Sen. Byrd has been voting or abstaining.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

12bar: Governor Joe Manchin (D) would appoint a successor, no special election.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Robert Byrd reminds us all of when all the democrats were in the KKK -

and the democrats protected the KKK.


The democratic party does NOT have a pretty history.

And yet everyone else is the bad guy.


I wonder why the democrats started that narrative ? To distract people away from how bad the democrats are ? Yea, obviously.

.

Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

CHRIS- PLEASE don't ban me for saying that the LIBS Grandmas will call their lib posters and complain about the Beaches in their respective retirement communities turning Black- That's just the color of oil- the oil that Obama's (Feb. 2009 AFTER INAUGURATION ANFD THE FIRING OF BUSH"S MMS DIRECTOR ) MMS allowed BP to spill.

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Pastor Beam and Pastor Popham, this here is "banned 37." He doesn't understand why you all are concerned Mrs. Nimrata Randhawa may have been fibbing to you and your congregations about her culture and faith to get elected. Would you set this banned 37 gentleman straight? Thank you, sirs.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what the process is for naming a replacement for Sen. Byrd? God forbid something happens to him, but he is 92. There is an ominous sound to the press coming out of the hospital.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

SUNLIGHT- Some of these LIBS acxtually have Grandparents who were able to retire and move to Miami Beach, Sarasota, and the KEYS- CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW CONFLICTED THEY WILL BE- when Grandma calls to ream out Obama for turning her Beack Black! Obama didn't do it, they will say, BP did it....WELL WHO GAVE BP THE LICENSE TO DRILL? - Grandma will ask.....Drool.....

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Yea, why don't you all talk about "deception" now.

ANY ONE OF YOU EVER TALK ABOUT OBAMA'S DECEPTIONS ???


Oh, you guys are lilly white now.


You want to have an honest discussion? Let's hear you list the DECEPTIONS OF OBAMA -


then maybe you will have a little standing to pick out a little tiny issue and try to make it a deception issue.


This is really ridiculous.

You call this a civil discussion ? You call this "quality" conversation ????

It is a pile of garbage.

Go ahead, let's see what else you come up with.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Did you see that Robert Byrd is seriously ill in the hospital. Doesn't sound good.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

South Carolina Pastors Question Nimrata Randhawa's Claims of Faith:
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"The heritage issue is starting to bubble up on emails," said former Charleston County GOP chairwoman Cyndi Mosteller, who supported Attorney General Henry McMaster in the gubernatorial primary. "I am hearing those questions."

Haley, born Nimrata Nikki Randhawa, still attends Sikh services occasionally with her parents and extended family. In 2004, after winning her first term in the state legislature, the Charlotte Observer quoted Haley as saying she and her family attend "both" Methodist and Sikh services.

As routine as that may sound to families of mixed faith, her ties to the Sikh tradition have left some evangelicals in the state uneasy.

Ray Popham, pastor of Oasis Church International in Aiken, said Haley's religion is a "big topic" among his congregants, who have posted notes about her religion on Facebook and have lately approached him for advice about the governor's race.

"She claims to be a Christian but also attends a Sikh temple and was married in a Sikh ceremony, so a lot of people can't figure how you can claim both," Popham told CNN. "I think she needs to be straight up with people, if she is both. If she believes that you can be both, then she should say that up front."

Tony Beam, the interim pastor of Mount Creek Baptist church in Greenville, hosts a radio show called "Christian Worldview Today." He recently posed a question to his listeners: Is Nikki Haley being honest about her faith?"

http://www.urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/2010/06/nikki-haleys-path-to-christianity-leaves-some-evangelicals-uneasy.html
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Nim may have some splainin' to do... Increasingly, these character issues are being raised by local pastors and respected Indian-Americans. What's Nim's answer?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

12bar


The ONLY THING that matters to broadwayjoe is the color of the skin of her alleged lovers.

It is sad, but that is how he thinks.

He has similar thinking about Sarah Palin - broadwayjoe is one extremely sick and immoral person.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Based on her teabagger beliefs I'd say her character is already in the ditch. Deception of voters is part and parcel of running as a Republican anyway. See McDonnell, Bob.

But deception at this level deserves exposure.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Of course, it doesn't matter to you and I which faith she follows, or if she follows any faith at all.

We're Democrats.

Conservatives care A LOT what faith she follows. Otherwise, why would she "convert" (which is in dispute).

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing SUNLIGHT- You call Obummer inept and the liberals have NO answer- they just ignore the post AND IT's a matter of opinion- YOU got thrown out for calling him Black- which is 50% factual-NOTHING on the oil spill?-

THAT's what makes Obummer our Neville Chamberlain- just another Inept Intellectual

Friday, June 25, 2010
Florida official slams federal oil spill response

At Florida's Pensacola Beach on Thursday morning, a digital greeting sign flashed: “Oil on beach, stay out of gulf." But when the county health department...

Los Angeles Times (blog) ( 6/25/2010 2:56:16 PM -08:00 )
Florida official slams federal oil spill response


Reuters ( 6/25/2010 2:24:37 PM -08:00 )
Pensacola Beach reopons after heavy oil washes up

MiamiHerald.com ( 6/25/2010 2:18:18 PM -08:00 )
Oil Spill Hell: Swimming Amid Tar Balls on a Florida Beach
Nothing like a little summer sun and letting the kids run through tar balls in the sand. What's more sad and shocking about this YouTube clip,...

TIME ( 6/25/2010 6:37:57 AM -08:00 )
Pensacola cleanup: last stand against Gulf oil spill
Crews in Pensacola are cleaning up the beach as the area braces for a fight against the odds.

BY MARY ELLEN KLAS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH PENSACOLA BEACH -- A...
MiamiHerald.com ( 6/25/2010 3:29:55 AM -08:00 )
Gulf oil spill: More Florida beaches close as leak continues to spread
Beachgoers walk past a health advisory sign that has been posted along the beaches in Pensacola, Fla. Officials in Florida closed more...

Obummer our Neville Chamberlain- Inept Intellectual-

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


NO ONE is questioning Nikki Haley's religious practices - only broadwayjoe.

Again, broadwayjoe's main problem is that she allegedly went with white men - and that bothers him.

Because his attempts at white women have all failed - that is his problem.

.

Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


NO ONE is questioning Nikki Haley's religious practices - only broadwayjoe.

Again, broadwayjoe's main problem is that she allegedly went with white men - and that bothers him.

Because his attempts at white women have all failed - that is his problem.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

bwj wrote: again the issue not what faith she follows, but whether she been untruthful or deceptive, i.e., the character issue.
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Of course, it doesn't matter to you and I which faith she follows, or if she follows any faith at all.

But, I'll bet SC voters care which faith she follows.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Yes, on the Internet, I have come across Pastors quoted as saying they want to get to the bottom of her so-called conversion. Again the issue not what faith she follows, but whether she been untruthful or deceptive, i.e., the character issue. So Nimrata's win is NOT assured.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Look at this board today

NO MENTION BY THE LEFT OF THE OIL SPILL

Nothing from the left on the Minerals Management Service - and how OBAMA'S PEOPLE dropped the ball on the oil rig safety inspections.

Nothing.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE THE OIL SPILL IS COMPLETELY GONE.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE THE LEFTIST VIOLENCE IN TORONTO NEVER HAPPENED

THE CARS WERE NEVER BURNED BY THE LEFT.

It really is unblievable that this board is talking about a cancelled convention - rather than the REAL ISSUES IN THIS COUNTRY.


And yet - this is what the leftists are all about.

Civil Discussion ? What the leftists want is irrelevant pro-left discussion.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

12: the problem with that narrative is, according to the article, Nimrata DIDN'T convert. In fact, Internet information suggests she remains an active practicing Sikh (not that there's anything wrong with that, because there of course isn't).
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Oooooooooooooooh. Well, that really IS a serious problem if that's true. I didn't really understand that.

But, some Methodist pastor who just happens to be a Republican can be persuaded to witness to her conversion. I don't think they issue cards to Methodists. Bwahaha!!

Is it Christian pastors who are questioning this? Like Baptist ministers? That would be an important distinction.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

12: the problem with that narrative is, according to the article, Nimrata DIDN'T convert. In fact, Internet information suggests she remains an active practicing Sikh (not that there's anything wrong with that, because there of course isn't).

And again, noa is right: the information we're getting is SC voters are NOT aware of her real name, real background, etc. This apparent deception, which the MSM (in pursuit of an absurd "diversity" news angle) has ignored, is likely to defeat her candidacy.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing SUNLIGHT- You call Obummer inept and the liberals have NO answer- they just ignore the post AND IT's a matter of opinion- YOU got thrown out for calling him Black- which is 50% factual.

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

@bwj,

I just reread your post. Do you mean Christian pastors are getting the word out on the double name thing?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

@bwj,

That is amazing the voters don't know. I can't think of another candidate who simultaneously goes by two names during the campaign. Can you?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL DAY TO MAKE THIS POINT

To Prove HOW ONE-SIDED THE LEFTISTS ARE.


Look at this discussion of the Tea Party - and about how ONE sign from last year REPRESENTS 50 million people (it doesn't)


WHERE IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE LEFTIST VIOLENCE IN TORONTO ??

Cars burning.....

Fire bombs thrown ....

400 people arrested ....

The violence of the LEFT

OH if that was the TEA PARTY, you wouldn't hear the end of it for months.


But yet, the LEFTISTS ARE CONSTANTLY IGNORING THEIR OWN VIOLENCE.

THE LEFT IS VIOLENT.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

...like the use of CAPS on my part excuses the use of a Robot sub which accidentally bumped into the BP CAP last week and increased the spill, when the Navy has Manned subs which could do the job better and more accurately!


O-B-U-M-M-E-R

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

12:

The short answer is, believe it or not, the SC folks DON'T know about Nimrata's big con.

The SC people are mostly working folks who don't follow these political games and few of them took part in the primary. But the word on Nimrata IS getting out now, though (mainly through local pastors, as we understand it), and probably well in time to thwart her deceptive candidacy.

We're glad that Indian-American journalist Neela Banerjee exposed Nimrata's big con before it was too late. Major shout out to Neela.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Moderator(s): please ban the latest registrations by 37thand0street when you return. As you see, he has continued all his old flooding, repeating, and screaming habits under a succession of new monikers.

Note that it would be more effective if you also delted all his posts at the same time. Gone without a trace speaks more clearlybthan merely gone.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

noacoler wrote: 12bar, ì doubt thảt Randhawa I known by her real name by most white GOP voters in SC. Their support would be lukewarm at best if it was widely known that she's South Asian and non-Christian.
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Really? Maybe.

I've been told there is a certain story line that plays well in fundamentalist Christian circles, and that is personal redemption. That's why people who have sex scandals (television preachers) do not necessarily lose support in those circles. Also, someone who converts to Christianity fulfills the redemption storyline. So, if that is true (& I don't know if it is), EVEN IF the fundamentalist voters know of her conversion, they not only won't care, it will improve her popularity.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

You all make a charge about repetition.


Yet broadwayjoe has mentioned Nikki Haley's name OVER 100 TIMES.

Has there been ONE MENTION OF BROADWAYJOE'S REPETITION ???

I can't begin to say how ridiculous any of this is.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


You only list conservatives - which makes you partisan.


That is the problem - the moveon.org crew here is trying to CONTROL THE CONTENT.


And - you are a disruption.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Here's a little more story about the TP convention. Full registration is $399. Last time it was $549.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...what could that mean?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

12bar, ì doubt thảt Randhawa I known by her real name by most white GOP voters in SC. Their support would be lukewarm at best if it was widely known that she's South Asian and non-Christian.

The irony is that she needs a whopping 70% of the votes from a demographic many of whom repeat Obama's middle name like a rugby chant.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington makes the case for more civil discussion here -

OK part of the problem here is the LEFTISTS ONLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.


Right now - just try to get a LEFTIST TO TALK ABOUT HOW BAD OBAMA IS.

There is no constructive converstation from the left about what Obama is doing right, and what he is doing wrong - no analysis - no nothing - they don't want to GO NEAR ANYTHING NEGATIVE.

The only exception is the far left - who wants Obama to go even FURTHER to the left - which is a ridiculous conversation because it is complete out of touch with not only the nation, but reality as well.


But the CENTRAL TRUTH IS THE LEFTISTS DO NOT WANT TO CONCEDE THAT OBAMA HAS DONE ANYTHING WRONG


Blind support for stopping questioning of terrorists - IN THE WINDOW WHEN ANOTHER ATTACK COULD BE IMMINENT.

Blind support for Massive new taxes

Blind support for a TRILLION dollar deficit


Blind support for the health care program

Blind support for everything.


THAT is the problem - there is no discussion about Obama - unless you want to say how great and smart and dreamy he is - then they will talk about that.


Case in Point - Have you heard ONE LEFTIST SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE MINERAL MANAGEMENT SERVICE AND HOW OBAMA'S PEOPLE THEIR DROPPED THE BALL ON OIL RIG SAFETY INSPECTIONS ???

no.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

12: That of course begs the question of who is actually financing the Tea Party.
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That I don't know. But what I do know is this: when you plan a major event and cancel it with 3 weeks notice, you have several major problems.

One, you can't plan.
Two, you are financially irresponsible. Three, you have major attendance problems.

So, if Tea Party Nation is reporting to sponsors, believe me, those sponsors are unhappy in a major way.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"Can you imagine how much it costs in prepayments, guaranteed payments and penalties when you cancel a major event 3 weeks in advance? It was a significant financial loss to the TP.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 2:27 PM"
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12: That of course begs the question of who is actually financing the Tea Party. They aren't traveling around the country non-stop to wave n-word signs and spit on Members of Congress on their yard sale money. Powerful rightwing lobbyists, corporations, and special interest fund this craziness. But you are RIGHT -- cancelling the convention had to be a big financial hit.

Perhaps the subject of a future Fix article? Naaaaaaaah.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright is BACK - giving a seminar in Chicago -

Remember - this is where OBAMA BROUGHT HIS CHILDREN TO LEARN - SO OBAMA HAD TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON - AND OBAMA HAD TO WANT TO TEACH HIS CHILDREN THIS STUFF

From the New York Post:

During a five-day seminar Wright taught last week at the University of Chicago, he was back at it, claiming that whites and Jews are controlling the flow of worldwide information and oppressing blacks in Israel and America.

"White folk done took this country," Wright said. "You're in their home, and they're gonna let you know it."

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

et's hope Mrs. Randhawa shames them no more and withdraws from the race. All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 2:58 PM
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Not meaning to argue with you about your core point, I can't imagine she'll withdraw. Or did you really mean that?

Isn't she way ahead in the polls? My guess is this: whites know she is playing the double name game, and it's ok with them. Her fellow Indians probably resent it--but they are so few, she doesn't care.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Nikki Haley/Nimrata Randhawa exposed by Indian-American journalist in Slate!
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Here's an excerpt from Indian-American journalist Neela Banerjee's tragic-comic expose of Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa titled "Nikki, Aka Nimrata."

Mrs. Banerjee used to work for the New York Times.

"Some South Asians, probably those of a different political stripe than Haley and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, have gone after them as sell-outs for having Anglo names, and after Haley, in particular, for being fair-skinned enough to pass for an ethnic white. Haley's Web site says that Nikki is her middle name. But in the desi community, we all know that we have our "good names" and our "house" names. Very few people are called by their "good name" at home, even if your name is short, like Neela. And no, I ain't about to tell you my house name. Nikki could very well be the house name for "Nimrata," her given name, or, truly, her middle name. She chucked her maiden name when she entered politics because she said it didn't fit onto a yard sign. (She did give her kids Indian names, though.) And Punjabis like Haley are often lighter-skinned than the world's notion of what Indian looks like. That said, recent South Asian candidates in the South have said openly that it helps to mask an "ethnic-sounding" name if you want to get elected.

What I find more fascinating than the politics of her name is the role of Christianity in her life and her campaign—and in Jindal's, too. There are millions of South Asian Christians, since empire doesn't come without the church on its heels. But Haley was raised Sikh and is now Methodist. Jindal was raised Hindu, converted to Christianity in high school, and is now a devout Roman Catholic. Sepia Mutiny has a great June 4 post about how Jindal speaks a great deal about his conversion experience, yet Haley doesnt, mainly because Jindal might see it as a way to diminish his "otherness" in the eyes of voters, while for Haley, who basically comes across as white, talking about her coming to Christ would accentuate her otherness."

http://www.doublex.com/blog/xxfactor/nikki-aka-nimrata
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So Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa (fake name: Nikki Haley) is a "sellout" and a fraud, according to this article by a veteran journalist in the Indian-American community. The Slate piece states/suggests/implies Nim clearly IS trying to fool the "conservative" voters, whom she must win over to win, by jettisoning her name, culture, race, history, and religion. This is taking Michelle Malagang-ing to a new level of self-hate. Sad.
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So...Case closed. Thanks for the knowledge, Mrs. Banerjee. Please continue your excellent coverage of Mrs. Randhawa's campaign. Having disrespected voters and the Indian-American community, let's hope Mrs. Randhawa shames them no more and withdraws from the race. All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The regular posters seeking to make this an unpleasant place are zouk, brigade, and you, 37th aka sunstroke.

Quit pretending you post as a rightist. You post as a nuisance and nothing more. Go away. Soon as the moderator shows up tomorrow you're gone for the week anyway so why don't you just butt out now.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party doesn't need any convention full of liberal media looking for one dumb person to say some stupid things.

The liberals are dying to find one stupid statement from one person to BRAND THE ENTIRE MOVEMENT.

IRONICALLY - the leftists, who claim to be so against sterotyping, ARE DESPERATE TO STEROTYPE THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.

THIS IS A GROSS AND IMPROPER MANIPULATION of the poltical process and the media by the leftists.


THE LEFTISTS WANT TO TRY TO SAY THE TEA PARTY IS NOT LEGITIMATE.

What the leftists are really trying to do is say - SEE THESE 50 MILLION AMERICAN CITIZENS - THEY DON'T COUNT - THEIR OPINIONS ARE NOT LEGITIMATE.


Meanwhile, the left wants to give AMNESTY TO THE ILLEGAL ALIENS -


And in the meantime, the left wants to ALLOW ILLEGAL ALIENS TO VOTE.


Like the San Francisco councilman who wants the illegal aliens to be allowed to vote.


So - that is where the LEFT IS - AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE NOT LEGITIMATE - BUT ILLEGAL CITIZENS OF OTHER COUNTRIES SHOULD COUNT.

You decide about that.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

TP: What's needed to wipe out taxpayer-funded defense contractor blog-spammers who apparently infect political blogs across the internet.

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-net-political-speech-targeted-americans

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 27, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington writes:

trying to make the comments section a better place. It's not that the trolls deserve gentle treatment, it's that the ugly back and forth sucks all the oxygen out of the room. I sit comfortably on the center left and enjoy reading comments from all sides

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If you read through the comments here - there is little of quality here - so don't try to congratulate yourselves on your fine comments - that is ridiculous.

Yes, it would be a good idea if this were more civil.

HOWEVER - ONE MUST POINT OUT - there are some leftists on here who have made a point of constantly making this an unpleasant place.


We have Noacoler who is constantly hurling insults and name-calling - broadwayjoe is constantly calling people racists - and if he has no evidentce - they are using a proxy issue to hide their hidden racism.


Dawd is a hostile and never has anything to say - drinl drives eveyone nuts with her copying and pasting.


Leichtman gets hostile and stays nasty.


The list can go on and on - there is a CLEARLY a preference on the left TO GET NASTY QUICKLY.


I am bring all this up - BECAUSE THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE TO POST.

Fairlington -

It is LEGITIMATE to say that the Conservatives come on here - try to discuss a topic and THEY ARE SUBJECTED TO A BARAGE OF ATTACKS.

This is in stark constrast to the "happy place" with you say exists.

Many of these leftists come on here - and all they do is ATTACK - there is little of substance said.

So - the Conservatives have to fight back -

Then the leftists COMPLAIN ABOUT THE FIGHTING BACK

THE POINT IS - THOSE LEFTIST SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL ATTACKS FROM THE LEFT - THEY DON'T WANT TO APPLY ANY STANDARDS TO NOACOLER, BROADWAYJOE, DDAWD, DRINL


The standards are being APPLIED ON A PARTISAN BASIS - and in that light they can not be viewed as legitimate at all.

So, it makes LITTLE SENSE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE ON THIS BOARD WHEN NOACOLOER, BROADWAYJOE, DDAWD AND OTHERS ARE ATTACKING CONSTANTLY.


Clear and Simple.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 27, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine how much it costs in prepayments, guaranteed payments and penalties when you cancel a major event 3 weeks in advance? It was a significant financial loss to the TP.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Bwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taking back your country takes second place to family vacations and the heat.

Not exactly your warrior types, are they.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

When I talked about the white knight, I didn't even think of any implied racial element. I'm laughing at myself.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

"Another aspect of mike's argument is what I have always called the white knight syndrome. While the R's have no single credible (or perhaps I should say likable Presidential candidate), each person will search around for his personal white knight. A general is the archetypal white knight. ...
Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 12:04 PM"
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Actually the GOP openly says its quest is for a "Great White Hope" to wrest the WH away from "them." It was just last year that Congresswoman Lynn Jenkins put out her desperate emotional call for a Great White Hope to defeat our 44th President.
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"U.S. Rep. Lynn Jenkins offered encouragement to conservatives at a town hall forum that the Republican Party would embrace a "great white hope" capable of thwarting the political agenda endorsed by Democrats who control Congress and President Barack Obama.

Jenkins, a Topeka Republican in her first term in Congress, shared thoughts about the GOP's political future during an Aug. 19 forum at Fisher Community Center in the northeast Kansas community of Hiawatha."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

12: Another theory is the cost of oil is so high that the baggers wanted to wait awhile for the price of gasoline to come down. The gas was to be used for their cross burnin-, er, lighted religious displays.

A bagger's life is tough, ain't it?
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The bagger movement is clearly petering out: ranting and raving about "mudpeople" and commies 24/7 would burn anyone out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah can we take our country back when it's a little cooler? Also we were planning on taking Trevor and Rienna to Yellowstone that weekend.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

A National Tea Party Unity convention that was scheduled to be held in Las Vegas in July 15-17 will now take place in October, according to organizers.

The article goes on to say that some people didn't want to attend in July because of the heat, and the date also conflicted with family vacations. An advantage to moving the date to October is that it is closer to the midterms.
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I've been suspecting for some time that the TP craze may have peaked, and this is another indication. When you have to cancel your convention three weeks before the date, for lack of attendees, one must admit the enthusiasm has gone pfffffffft.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"Civilian control" remains a myth as long as Pentagon, Homeland, D.O.J. allow regional "fusion centers" to be used as a front for a silent, genocidal purge.

URGENT TO: POTUS / VPOTUS, WH Staff, Atty. Gen. Holder, Obama cabinet, members of Congress:

HOMELAND FUSION CENTER MICROWAVE CELL TOWER WEAPON SYSTEM SILENTLY ASSAULTS, TORTURES, IMPAIRS 'TARGETED' AMERICANS: VETERAN JOURNALIST

• "Dissidents" and "undesirables" also targeted by multi-agency program for financial sabotage; community-based, police-protected, GPS-enabled vigilante stalking and harassment; ideology-driven censorship -- a genocidal purge.

All of those cell towers you see all over America are NOT all for phone calls.

Some of them are TORTURE TOWERS -- part of a nationwide microwave/laser radio frequency "directed energy weapon" system that is being used by operatives of the multi-agency Homeland Security-run "fusion center" network to silently torture, impair, and physically and neurologically degrade the functioning and well-being of extrajudicially, unjustly '"targeted" citizens...

And apparently, this precision-targeted domestic weapon system being used to attack and harm U.S. citizens has been deployed WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF CONGRESS or high state officials.

Exhibit A: U.S. Patent No. 7629918, held by Raytheon, for the "Multifunctional Microwave Laser Radio Frequency Directed Energy Weapon System."

WHEN WILL CONGRESS PROBE EXTRAJUDICIAL FUSION CENTER CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND THE CONSTITUTION... ENABLED BY HOMELAND, PENTAGON AND D.O.J. AGENCIES AND COMMANDS?

BUCKS COUNTY, PA: "Mid-Atlantic States (including D.C.) Centcom of a Fusion Center Gestapo."

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
NowPublic.com/scrivener OR Facebook -- Vic Livingston ("Notes")

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 27, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"MONTGOMERY, Ala. (BP)--Four Gulf Coast governors are calling on residents to set aside Sunday as a Day of Prayer to pray for a solution to the oil spill and for citizens impacted by the disaster.

Alabama's Bob Riley, Louisiana's Bobby Jindal, Mississippi's Haley Barbour and Texas' Rick Perry all issued proclamations calling on prayer for the spill, which entered its 66th day Thursday."
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Can God plug the hole? If not, will FOX berate his ineffectiveness?
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I'd like to take credit for this, but have to give it to bernielatham on the PlumLine.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

That sounds like a real jump of faith with absolutely no rational basis other than you like and respect him as a military man.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 27, 2010 11:54 AM
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Don't you think it is human nature to assume that someone you respect thinks just as you. I know I've made this mistake over and over, to find out my hero isn't aligned with my views. Then I will have to grapple with my respect. Are we really able to respect someone with whom we disagree? Or, do we have to admit we only respect those who are aligned with our own views?

That's when we find out what we're made of, don't you think.

Another aspect of mike's argument is what I have always called the white knight syndrome. While the R's have no single credible (or perhaps I should say likable Presidential candidate), each person will search around for his personal white knight. A general is the archetypal white knight. Makes perfect psychological sense to me.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"At least I'm willing to openly admit what me and my group believe, where our limits are"

interesting to hear that response from you mike since I asked a pretty straight forward
question you chose to sidestep. I suggested
that you and conservatives have absolutely no idea wher General Petraes stands on such bedrock R issues such as: gay rights, tax policy, immigration, BP Regulation, deficits and yes the hot button issue of but certainly not the only conservative issue, abortion. Your honest answer was that yes you have absolutely no idea where Petraes stand. IF he should decide to jump into the 2012 POTUS ring, which I personally doubt as plausible, where would you stand in a GOP PRIMARY race, with Petraeus if you should then learn that his policy positions conflict with your conservative philosophy about ANY of those issues. In other words since you criticize D and their limits, what would be YOUR LIMITS if you learn that Petraeus or any R (we don't even know that for sure) takes positions on nonmilitary issues that conflict with your's?
Rudi and Tom Ridge would be certainly come to mind but I am mystified that you believe that just b/c Petraes is military that you then leap to the presumption that 1. That that alone makes him a R and 2. That you then presume he is a cultural and economic conservative? On what basis do you reach that conclusion? That sounds like a real jump of faith with absolutely no rational basis other than you like and respect him as a military man.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 27, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

@noa,

How's the world wide conspiracy of liberal emailers going this fine morning?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

@USMC_Mike: in both posts below you're describing caricatures and you're playing loose with the facts.  There are more direct ways of saying this.  Yeah, "analysis paralysis," so much better to act with unwavering resolve, "not blinking" as fellow social conservative Sarah Palin puts it, just plunge headlong into wars and calamity and damn the analysis.  Worked so well for fellow social conservative GW Bush, and Iran is so grateful to have Iraq delivered as an ally and Saddam unwaveringly handed over to a lynch mob.  Governing from the gut has SO much to recommend it.  

Yeah we liberals believe ourselves open-minded, and we have the internicine disagreements to prove it.  Do you?  Now that's a bit of a laugh, considering that whatever the individual lines of alleged reasoning every last bloody one of you ends up with the exact same convictions.  Kneeling in prayer, gripping your rifle stock, abortion is murder, homosexuality is morally wrong, Christianity über alles.  "I'm not a bigot, I just hate quee... uh, I just believe in the *Bible*.  Especially those juicy bits in Timothy and Leviticus."

Nuts.  Why should I care what path you trod to justify the bigotry you held already?  What you call your premises I call cheap rationalization.  A social conservative is a bigot, and my open minded liberal tolerance doesn't extend to bigots.  If guys like you had your way, guys like me would be swinging from lampposts by torchlight while you all stood around swaying and singing hymns.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

mikeusmc wrote: You libs claim to be so open-minded. Your minds may be very wide open, but they are apparently only an inch deep. You do not tolerate dissent of any kind from your arbitrary claim to be "open-minded".
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I'm not noacoler, but I've been waiting for a chance to make a point which might surprise you. Beware of generalizing that all "libs" are one way or another way. I am liberal. I am conservative. I am religious. I am prolife.

Noacoler and I, on this blog, have discussed abortion. I explained my reasons, which are religiously based and come from twelve years of Catholic school. While he may not have agreed with either my view, or the reasons for my view, he was very respectful. I would hope he would say the same about me.

Please do not jump to conclusions about people based on their view about a certain issue. We are all more complex than that. Certain of my views are conservative and certain are more liberal, and a whole lot are in the middle. I am far from "an inch deep", simply because some people call me a "lib".

BTW, "libs" is an insulting term. If you wish not to insult, please spell the word completely.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 27, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Rumors are Dave Weigel is trying to go to HuffPo. Just curious--at HuffPo, are those salary and benefits gigs or fixed fee per post gigs or what? Any idea what the compensation level is?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

noa, ignore the flak which, as far as I can tell, is unsourced even though most of the Fix posts float around somewhere on the Internet. Remember in Fix World, the tea baggers, who in recent months have advocated repeal of the Civil Rights Act, a return to whites-only lunch counters and Jim Crow-era literacy tests for voters, racial profiling of Hispanics, and "Second Amendment" solutions to Members of Congress who disagree with them, are "quasi-libertarians," not irredeemable, unhinged, ultraviolent bigots.
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BTW, is it legit to wonder whether our gracious host's private emails could meet the rigorous standard applied to blogger Dave Weigel, separated from the Post last week for his private emails critical of conservatives' racism and Drudge's lifestyle (whatever it is). Just askin'.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 27, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 27, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

"saying the federal response to the disaster had been painfully slow so far."-Inept Obummer at it again!

Florida official slams federal oil spill response
Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:19pm EDT

From The Miami Herald

* State attorney general demands more help from Washington
* People wary of swimming, even after ban is lifted

By Michael Peltier

PENSACOLA BEACH, Fla., June 25 (Reuters) - Bans on swimming were partially lifted in the Florida Panhandle on Friday, but a state official called for a beefed-up federal response after the area took its worst hit yet from the BP (BP.L) (BP.N) oil spill.

State emergency officials signaled that the tourist haven was far from in the clear as they continued to report sightings of gooey debris and even some liquid crude coming in from BP's Deepwater Horizon well site more than 100 miles (160 km) away.

In a letter on Friday to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum asked for more oil skimmers and other equipment to support the state's cleanup efforts, saying the federal response to the disaster had been painfully slow so far.

"With oil mats, sheen and tar balls now coming ashore on Florida beaches, the continued slow response and limited resources being directed to protect our coasts from the effects of the Deepwater Horizon blowout is extremely frustrating," McCollum wrote.

Until late Tuesday, the Panhandle had been spared from the early impact of the spill already marring the Gulf Coast states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.

But health officials were forced to issue "red flag" warnings against swimming across much of the region on Wednesday, after thick oily sludge washed ashore on Pensacola Beach and other once-pristine stretches of nearby coastline.

Posted by: thecannula | June 27, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Noacoler -- to reject someone, to write them off, prima facie, because they disagree with you, not only flies in the face of basic reasoning, but most importantly it demonstrates one of the greatest contradictions to the liberal mindset.

You libs claim to be so open-minded. Your minds may be very wide open, but they are apparently only an inch deep. You do not tolerate dissent of any kind from your arbitrary claim to be "open-minded".

Yes, I am a social conservative, in large part because of my religious beliefs, but I am willing to philosophically and logically present my arguments. For you to reject them, based on their conclusions alone, without first hearing the premises, is nearly the definition of the OPPOSITE of open-minded tolerance.

Liberals are every much in lock-step as you claim conservatives to be... and I suggest yours is more damaging, and worse for humanity, due to its covert/clandestine nature.

[At least I'm willing to openly admit what me and my group believe, where our limits are; you claim to have no limits, but are actually militantly opposed to certain limits. I think that's intellectually, if not morally, dishonest.]

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 27, 2010 3:08 AM | Report abuse

leichtman1 -- To answer your questions.

Yes, of course you are right, I have no idea what his opinion about abortion is.

I'm simply trying to communicate the desperate "anyone but this idiot" that more than half the country feels. [Have you seen the latest Gallup/ABC poll?]

An executive -- a true executive -- in the face of a 9/11, in the face of a BP, in the face of terrorism and a difficult war -- Gen P would at least be that, which would be a marked improvement in many people's minds, over the current campaigner-in-chief.

We have a phrase -- "analysis paralysis" -- which, coupled with the earlier "overcome by events", sort of explains the deer-in-the-headlights look I know even the most die-hard leftists have seen in our president's eyes.

So, yes, you're right, I have no reason to believe Gen P would be a "good" conservative.

But at least he'd never confuse leadership with a lecture about leadership.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 27, 2010 2:58 AM | Report abuse

Armpeg, you are a fool.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Well BB needless to say I disagree with your generous assessments.  Reason is courteous and in no way a troll but neither interesting, just rehashing boilerplate.  I rarely bother to read.  Cannulla, sorry, 37th without the formatting gimmicks in my eyes.  And USMC_Mike leans way too hard on his military role for my tastes, seeking credentials therein, and I might regard him as the long-sought Conservative Contributor were I still willing to go on believing in that Grail quest, which I'm not.  And Mike cheesed me off right away with the "social conservative" stuff.  Sorry, I'm gay, and social conservative is a six-syllable pseudonym for bigot.  Wanna be a conservative, fine, RIP Barry Goldwater, but social conservative?  I-believe-marriage-is-between-one-man-and-one-woman, excuse me while my eyes glaze.

Jake not a bigot?  Sorry, I don't smoke that stuff anymore..

Surprised you'd say I'm unbudged.  From where I sit I've mellowed enormously.  I do appreciate your efforts toward a hospitable blog but I honestly think moderation is a necessity, I've seen too many great forums, I mean vastly VASTLY greater than this one, destroyed by a single determined troll, and way short of 37th's indefatigability or zouk's raw sickness.  Most places would have banned zouk the first time he started in on pedophilia, no warning, no second chance.  Repeat posts would get a warning then a ban, posting under multiple monikers, immediate ban.  

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Chris (F),

It's a sliver of a distinction, but I didn't find Jake to be a bigot. Just one who would truck with bigotry. If you will, a Huey Long type of a character. Being willing to use the bigotry of others for political advantage doesn't make you a bigot. Just a scoundrel. He's trolling other blogs for the present. "Threatening" Ezra Klein for example.

Zouk is a stereotypical bully. If one doesn't jump when goosed (and he took a few feelers in my direction), he gives up. We both probably have a few bullies in our history. Sounds like you're doing pretty well. Yo tambien. His obsessions are indicative of a sad life. I can't think of anyone doing well who would bother spending their time trolling a blog.

I spend an unjustifiable amount of time trying to make the comments section a better place. It's not that the trolls deserve gentle treatment, it's that the ugly back and forth sucks all the oxygen out of the room. I sit comfortably on the center left and enjoy reading comments from all sides. The comments section suffers from too few conservatives willing to engage. There's a few. Sliowa1, reason, USMC_Mike. Canolli is strident, but at least bothers to write a coherent opinion. Can't say as armpeg or leapin adds much to the discussion, but it's easy to Pg Up past the occasional democRAT socialist rant.

Ah well, I've bed to get to and a guest to get ready for tomorrow night.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 27, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

No apologies necessary BB I yam what I yam and it ain't Popeye. Nothing taken nor meant personally, what kind of shape would I be in if I couldn't roll with the punches? Every time I scroll past zouk too slowly I see more ped ped ped (juice bar, girl garage, WTF is up with that? NO sense there).

Tangent: the new iPhone is a marvel. I am awed.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 27, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

"Worst Week In Wash. this Week": Winner Comrade Barack Obama.

Despite the fact that Chris Cillizza, his practically all radical left Socialist/Communist clique of commenters here on Fix, and the rest of the Obama worshipping Democrap Socialist--controlled Main Stream Media's every effort to change the subject of 68 days of the worst oil spill disaster in America's history happening because of Obama's screw ups and Keystone Kop-like stumbling and bumbling, more and more of the American people are seeing Comrade Obama's incompetence. With his approval numbers dropping like a rock in the ocean, it's small wonder that all his supporters like Chris here, all try to get the public's mind away from this Obama created mess by bringing up other issues of the day as a red herring.

Posted by: armpeg | June 27, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

I have no recollection BB but I was probably talking about the work ethic of Indian programmers in India, which is deplorable, and I should know since I've made great money rewriting junk that came from there under contracts that failed to specify such tangential details as "it has to work."

I figured you were taking about the body odor that was so familiar around Microsoft in 1989-91, before hygiene was added to new employee orientation.  In any case you're confusing honest reportage with bigotry .. my current manager is Indian, I like the guy, we get along and we can even argue and keep it civil.  I've gone to bed with Indian men, which I wouldn't do with a people I'm prejudiced against.  Anyway.

You're one to excoriate me for feeding the trolls when it was you Jake could count on for positive reinforcement and support. And it's you who still gives no end of second chances to an obvious troll like Brigade, despite his editing posts he responds to and all the rest.  You keep nurturing hope that someone like Jake or Brigade will turn into a contributor if you just treat him nice.  As someone said not long ago, grow up.

As for 37th, it's indisputable that we're dealing with a true mental case.  The hours he keeps and the paranoia he displays make it virtually certain that he's in the grips on amphetamine psychosis.  He's not going to go away and every time he's banned he'll come right back and flaunt his return.  It appears we have moderation now so the only thing that will work will be to not only continue to ban his reappearances but delete all his posts.  He thinks he's on some sort of mission here, considers his disruption to be important.  He's driven.  And he probably knows better than to get in range of anyone licensed to diagnose.  Deleting his posting history will hit him hard.  Give me the database schema and a SQL console and I can write a script that will accomplish this.He'll get worse and worse and then have some crisis and disappear.

Lot of revisionism about Jake.  He didn't find some honor and remove himself like a gentleman, he had a meltdown too embarrassing to overcome.  CC called him a 5-year-old, he tried to pass it off as an April Fool joke (which you chuckled along with, thanks a lot for that), and a few days later he gave up.

You really wrap me around the axle resisting the obvious inference of CC's bigotry.  Nobody has ever been censured here for even the most rancid bigotry, from Jake's racism to zouk's homophobia, but I was expelled three times for calling out racism.  Bigots are coddled, calling them out is a ban while calling another poster a pedophile goes unremarked. The Tea Party is treated with respect here.  What does he have to do before you notice, call Obama by the N-word?  Not a big jump to believe he does, in private.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Chris F - My apologies for coming on too strong. For what it's worth, I enjoy your contributions to the comments section. It'd be great if you'd lighten up occasionally, but hey, you gotta be you. Cheers.

@Cannula - Occasionally? #&ths obsession with race extended to inner city crime statistics. Well, not that it would ever both taking time to research the details. A troll is a troll is a troll.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 26, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

mark not in austin: good news here in Texas newest poll in Governor's race: White 43%
Perry 43%s. You sounded discouraged last
week based upon feedback from a friend of your son. Also a GOP hack unsuccesfully tried to funnel $500,000 to a faux Green Party candidate to try and siphon off White's voters. That was stopped in District Ct. by injunction also good news. Be safe in your journey and get back with us when you return We appreciate your thoughtful posts. Incidentally I agree that Obama could not have refused to accept McChrystal's resignation for out right insubordination. His quotes in Rolling Stone seriously undermined his (McChrystal's) standing with the troops, and the media would have savaged Obama had he not forced him out. Senator Lindsey Graham showed real class in his support of the Commander in Chief, as a usually lonely a voice of reason w/i the GOP. What a standup Senator.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

mark not in austin: good news here in Texas newest poll in Governor's race: White 43%
Perry 43%s. You sounded discouraged last
week based upon feedback from a friend of your son. Also a GOP hack unsuccesfully tried to funnel $500,000 to a faux Green Party candidate to try and siphon off White's voters. That was stopped in District Ct. by injunction also good news. Be safe in your journey and get back with us when you return We appreciate your thoughtful posts. Incidentally I agree that Obama could not have refusaed to accept McChrystal's resignation for out right insubordination. His quotes in Rolling Stone seriously undermined his (McChrystal's) standing with the troops, and the media would have savaged Obama had he not forced him out. Senator Lindsey Graham showed real class in his support of the Commander in Chief, as a usually lonely a voice of reason w/i the GOP. What a standup Senator.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Folks,

Ignore 37th for the most part. On the plus side, at least it can't argue about other people being banned. The essential problem with making a ban stick is dynamic IPs. I would argue that this is a disturbed individual. It really does rise to the level of obsession to post 16 hours a day.

Chris F--It was awhile ago, but you did state an animus towards Indian programmers. Having a few good friends who are Indian immigrants, it made an impression. I think it was when you were posting as GoldandTanzanite. A GREAT handle, by the way. I wish you'd been able to keep it.

@USMC Mike. Both John McCain and Barack Obama have executive experience. Both were in charge of billion dollar enterprises that modern presidential campaigns have become. McCain failed the executive test in fall 2008.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 26, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

In case you didn't notice 37th when you ordered ME to ban noacolr but it was CC and the WP that banned you not me. While I sometimes am offended by some of naocol 's post they are never as repetitive and disruptive as your's. The fact that we have had to waste 1/2 of the posts todayanswering your idiotic charges that like Joesph McCarthy everyone that disagrees with you is UnAmerican shows precisely how out of control you are with your post. Most of us come here to try and have a civil conversation about political issues that concern us. That has become impossible exactly like with Jake by your repetive rants. It is up to Cc and the WP not us peons to make that decision. Be a gentleman now and leave with dignity.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

37th-The problem you had with these Democrats, Chris included, was that you were repetitive and occasionally concentrated too much on race- see they could castigate Bush till the cows came home, but they can't take a bad word said about Obama- and they hide behind race- SO I chose to accentuate his inept performance dealing with the Gulf Disaster because I feel that demonstrates his pseudo intellectual Achilles heal.... He Will Be Forever Known as the President who OUTSOURCED the biggest environmental; disaster in our country's history (by his own admission) to a Multinational corporation run by the British!!!

Posted by: thecannula | June 26, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I have not read the other posts here because I have been traveling, so forgive me in advance if I am merely repeating what has already been stated.

David Petraeus has been an outstanding General for many years now. "Frontline" concentrated on his performance in Kurdistan, which was brilliant. He is an inspiring leader and that rarity - a master of strategy and of the politics of the situations he has been thrust into. As a career officer, he has lived for engaging the tough problems. Whatever the result in Afg, he will be fine - he has faced worse weeks, and months, and this command will not be too much for him to handle. He did not have the worst week in Washington.

Stanley McChrystal has been a fighting General who has had a remarkable career. He has never mastered the politics, and that has been overlooked twice before that we know of, because he was good at inspiring and leading war fighters and facilitating workable strategies. He had the courage to admit he had befouled the nest by permitting and engaging in loose talk to a reporter while hammered, in Paris. A good leader, I think a fine American, whose judgment has been questionable once too many times, McCh made for himself, and for all, of us a worst week.

I do not believe in the notion of the indispensable general. Probably Gen. Parker [UK] was next in line behind McCh, So I am also thinking the joint command had a say in the Petraeus appointment. Maybe not - maybe we dictate - but I am guessing we tread more delicately than that.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | June 26, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Cannula


Good luck


You can deal with these characters now

They want nothing less than moveon.org to control this board 100%.

They are working together - this is a cooridinated attack.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

NOW if I was editor of the Harvard Law Review- I'm not a lawyer, but in 1979 I was accepted to Harvard early action (IF you don't know what early action means don't challenge me) I would KNOW that hurricane season is upon us- SO let's get the NAVY mobilized to drop a proper cap on the riser WITHOUT cutting off the mangled pipes- since one good storm could make this the WORLD'S worst environmental hazard- and Slick Willy likes the Vineyard.

Today's NY Times-
Storm Could Disrupt Effort in Gulf-


Together with BP, the company responsible for cleaning up the oil spill, Coast Guard officials are preparing contingency plans that would suspend the oil collection operation and delay the drilling of relief wells until the storm passes, steps that would allow even more oil to gush into the gulf.

Adm. Thad W. Allen, the federal commander on the scene, said that it would take about five days to disconnect the one ship that is directly tethered, through its oil spill containment system, to the broken well. Workers would also have to be evacuated. Those steps would be called for if sustained winds of 46 miles an hour or greater were expected, he said.

“We’re watching that tropical depression very closely right now,” Admiral Allen said in a briefing on Friday.

If the area of disturbed weather — as yet still unorganized — does develop into a storm, it may happen around the time Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. makes his first visit to the region since the disaster started. Admiral Allen announced that Mr. Biden was expected on Tuesday.
???????????????????????

Oh, Biden is sure to solve the problem- like when he voted for MNBA- his son's employer against every other Democrat in the Senate!

Posted by: thecannula | June 26, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

You aren't here to uphold an ideology 37th, you're here to disrupt. Nothing more. Nobody wants you here, everyone seeks to circumvent your screaming posts. Go away, don't come back, go bother someone else.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Listen to the moveon.org people - either they control the message on this board - or the board should not EXIST.

This is their philosphy - destroy everything and everyone that does not support their message 100%.


This much is clear - and their statements all support this.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


Enforce your rules against Noacoler - who is on your moveon.org team.

You and your moveon.org friends are trying to take over this blog.

You and moveon.org want to control the message on this board.


That is unAmerican - and against every political tradition this nation has.

I just hope this country survives Obama and his people without too much damage.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

So now it's accepttable for you to trash the US military.

What is ridiculous is that this site has been completely taken over by a blogger who has been officially banned by the WP.
Come Monday if this nonsense continues I will
urge all here to officially boycott this site. Either there are enforced rules here or this site should not exist.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Afghanistan War Situation

The question remains: does this nation want to allow Obama and the leftists continue a military policy which will lead to losing the war ???

Which is desrespectful to everyone who has lost their life there already ....


AND do we want to allow a situation in which the Taliban will control large parts of Afghan territory again - which could lead to additional terrorist attacks on US soil ???


CLEARLY, OBAMA'S MILITARY POLICIES ARE RISKING FUTURE TERRORIST ATTACKS ON US SOIL ???

This is a serious situation, and AMERICAN LIVES ARE AT RISK.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe -


I guess you are a part of moveon.org.

You did say "we" in an earlier comment - so you are working as a group.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This is too silly, banned 37. Hope the IT guy gets in bright and early on Monday.

Out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama wants to legalize all the ILLEGAL ALIENS in this country.

Every PERSON IN THE WORLD who ever thought about coming here IS ON THEIR WAY IN ORDER TO GET UNDER THE DEADLINE.


Obama has just UNLEASHED A FLOOD OF ADDITIONAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.


We have a person there who has just so little experience, who lacks qualifications - who just doesn't know what he is doing.

OBAMA RARELY THINKS AHEAD - THAT IS GOING TO HURT OUR NATION.

OUR NATION IS AT RISK RIGHT NOW.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

12bar


You choose to ignore the evidence - there have been many many comments like that one - which prove there is a coordinated group here - they have admitted it.

Leichtman is part of it - I keep on asking him - just admit it.


Broadwayjoe - Are you a part of moveon.org ???

Please list all the people you are working with on this blog -


Please list everyone who has ever been a part of this group and commented on this board.

Just start by listing who you can remember.


12Bar - it is too obvious - a subject comes up and someone else comes on to fight the point - like they have called someone or called someone over to their cube.

Yea - it is probably moveon.org.

Ddawd too.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

banned 37, I understand that Dave Weigel's blog in the Post would like you to post there. Check it out. All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Let's get back to what is really important: OBAMA IS DESTROYING THIS NATION


Obama's OIL SPILL is still gushing - Obama said he was going to fix MMS - and Obama FAILED TO MAKE SURE THE SAFETY INSPECTIONS ON THE OIL RIGS WERE DONE PROPERLY.

This took place when Obama was doing a year long review of oil rigs - so Obama SAID he was focusing on this area.

THE BUDGET DEFICIT IS OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS - this alone is destructive to our economy.


Wreckless unrestrained spending - this is Obama's worst nightmare - because for the rest of his life, people will be saying how much INTEREST WE HAVE TO PAY ON OBAMA'S DEBT.

Obama's military policies are causing us to lose the Afghan war.


Obama is still willing to read terrorists their rights - causing them to remain silent instead of discussing POTENTIAL IMMINENT ATTACKS ON AMERICAN CITIZENS.

Obama is talking about a massive tax hike on the middle class - this is in ADDITION to the health care taxes.

Obama STILL has not come clean about the TRUE COST OF HIS HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.

Am I saying Obama LIED ABOUT THE COST OF THE HIS HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.


Yes, Obama lied.


Obama is CONTINUING TO DESTROY THIS NATION.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

12BAR - HE SAID "WE"
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No need to pretend to be crazy. The real thing is good enough.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe writes:

sunlight: Touchy, aren't we?
We didn't say any of the things you claim. We just mentioned: "Gregory Charles Royal." Why does that upset you so much? :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 3:25 PM


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WHO IS WE ???


12BAR - HE SAID "WE"

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Anyone in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, or Florida who votes to put these Republican goons back in power in 2012, led by Sith Lord Palin, deserves the consequences:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShxhzwNNlBs&feature=player_embedded


Posted by: DrainYou | June 26, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

@37th,

Scrivener's hat is the same hat that's on your head. I don't expect you to agree. If you did, you wouldn't be delusional, would you.

There is something that always seems to happen when the tin foil hat guy shows up. The conversation ALWAYS goes to him, around him, about him, for him and agin' him. That's what Joe McCarthy found out and he played to his gin-soaked best. As are you.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse


broadwayjoe is now defending noacoler - who would defend noacoler unless someone working with him.

broadwayjoe - I stated my opinion on the subject.

It is you who is obsessed with interracial relationships - because you had tried to get some white men to date you and they all have turned you down.

Sorry about that.


I really can not help you.

But to hate millions of people - as you apparently do - and to constantly hurl sexual slurs at them on this board - is just a little out there.

Sorry about your condition - Im sure that a there is some combination of medications that can help you.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

12bar


Scrivener has a tin-foil hat.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Brigade but you've enough lies in the archives already, you didn't really need to corroborate my post with a fresh batch.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 3:07 PM
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LOL. Denying our comments now are we? Plenty of others saw your bigoted screed. At least you've got the decency to back away from it, even though an apology would be better than a denial.

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

sunlight/banned 37: Touchy, aren't we?
We didn't say any of the things you claim. We just mentioned: "Gregory Charles Royal." Why does that upset you so much? :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman

I have asked you several times if you are a part of moveon.org

AND you have refused to answer.


Several times you have refused to answer.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


Noacoler is here - you can direct of your wrath at him -

Oh while you are at it, direct three times the wrath because he has been banned 3 times.


Your silence proves your partisan motivation - and it proves the partisan motivations of everyone who is not complaining about him.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Googling back through comments, I see that this blog has been beseeching since January for 37th to be blocked. CC has posted warnings to him.

There have been the same paranoid rantings by him:

there is an organized attempt to silence him,

paid for by moveon (sometimes it's the White House or other organizations),

that people are taking turns on round the clock shifts and

emailing each other to coordinate their work,

that this has something to do with some plot done in 2008, and

37th has to keep up the duplicate posts because his side has so few proponents and somehow people just "don't get it".
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I'm telling you, this is no different than scrivener.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

no co-ordination 37th that is just more of your ridiculous paranoia. I don't need
the WP, or move on to tell me that you are simply annoying and destructive to this site.
I welcome the back and forth with conservatives, moderate and liberals just not the same nonstop nonsense from you. We have
all begged you to tone it down and show a little civility towards the other side which you have totally ignored.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You seem obsessed with your assertion that married white women should ignore their marriage vows - an go off with black men.

You have brought this up numerous times.

It is extremely offensive - especially from a family values point of view.

You are one sick person - obsessed with interracial sex.

That obsession seems to be the basis of all your racism against whites - and why you constantly show hate toward the tea party movement.


NOW - you see Nikki Haley who has been falsely accused of having an affair with a white man - and that sets you OFF.

You can't handle minority women going for white men -

But you have an OBSESSION with Sarah Palin not going with a minority - when she was married.


PLEASE TAKE YOUR HATE SPEECH ELSEWHERE

YOU REALLY SHOULD BE BANNED - THESE TOPICS ARE OFFENSIVE - AND YOU JUST WON'T STOP BRINGING THEM UP.


Meanwhile, how much did Obama drive up the deficit in the time it took to write this posting ?


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Brigade but you've enough lies in the archives already, you didn't really need to corroborate my post with a fresh batch.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall ANY such post from noa. Most of the Fix posts are available somewhere on the Internet. So you need to paste-in noa's posts if you are going to put that out there about him.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 2:36 PM
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You can look it up if you're interested. I remember it; I'm sure leichtman1 remembers it. We both responded. People tend to cut Noacoler a lot of slack on his hateful rants, evidently because he's liberal. Easier on the conscience if you just flush the less tolerable stuff out of your memory. Besides, it's all Jake's fault---and Noacoler never bothers 12BarBlues.

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Rs have opposed today's equivalency of the
interstate highway system, construction of
a coast to coast high speed rail.

Joe Barton told us precisely what the GOP believes is the legitimate role of federal govt regulation, nothing. Congrespeople Tom Price,Bachman, Paul and Sharon Angel taught us that there are many in the GOP who feel that the federal govt should have no role in regulating BP and anyone who felt otherwidse is simply UnAmerican.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to find the post where zouk listed 37th along with others he wished were blocked.

Until I find that post, here is one I found from one of his et als:

37th. Give it a rest. Stop carpet bombing. Post something intelligent one time only. Don't be such a drindl.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 24, 2010 6:37 PM

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse


Bwaahhaahaha is your way of saying you agree with the reasoning.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


Are you a part of moveon.org ???

If you are, I think you should call Chris and be honest with him.

Tell him moveon.org wants to control ALL THE POSTINGS ON THIS BOARD.

Tell him that moveon.org has spent alot of time over the past few years to harass and drive away a multitude of conservative posters.


So, because some can not be harassed, you have decided to ASTROTURF THE WASHINGTON POST - coordinate a bunch of complaints and make it seem like thousands of people are sooooo offended - and ready to leave if MOVEON.ORG CAN NOT CONTROL ALL THE POSTINGS ON THIS BOARD.


That is what you want - a LEFTIST MESSAGE ON 100% OF THE POSTS -

Anything less is just wrong, is that correct ?


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even zouk wants 37th blocked. You can't say that was based on content.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


I have made this point many times - the enforcement of those "rules" is so sparse and haphazard, no one knows what those "rules" really are.

NO - we don't have an enforcement of rules here - which has been consistent and applied equally to the leftists.

If the "rules" were applied equally, broadwayjoe, ddawd, leichtman, shrink and many others would have been banned long ago.


NO - what we have is a LEFTIST ASTROTURFING of the Washington Post.

A coordinated campaign of leftists whining like little children - trying to create the impression that thousands, no millions, of people agreed with them.

This ALL HAD PARTISAN MOTIVATIONS.

These people did not seek the same rules to be enforced against LEFTIST OFFENDERS.

No, instead their primary goal was to SILENCE CONSERVATIVE VOICES.


It is because MOVEON.ORG IS SPAMMING THIS BOARD - BY SENDING MULTIPLE POSTERS HERE - AND COORDINATING THE HARASSMENT OF OTHER POSTERS.

That is against the First Amendment.

AND anti-American.

Sad.

Socialists ALWAYS resort to totalitarian methods - because they quickly realize that their crazy ideas have to be IMPOSED.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

My problem with Fix's "BHO appointed Petreaus so he could run in 2012" narrative is that it seems based on NO factual information.

We're at Ground Zero and we have heard no one say Petreaus was the slightest bit interested in running against BHO in 2012 so this isn't a General Wesley Clark situation.
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I don't doubt Fix's crowd and BroderWorld may have discussed the possibility of Petreaus running in a "what if" bull session at the Palm. BTW, how would history have changed if Phalin had waived her "policy" for Gregory Charles Royal? -- but I digress.

But let's stick to reality-based conversation and not just make stuff up.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Those who don't know what scrivener is about should pay attention to the details. One detail is that scrivener is convinced that *someone* is changing the spelling of his words to misspellings. Another detail is that the "characters remaining" box at the bottom of the comment shows 300 for him, not 3000.

Delusions and hallucinations.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I seriously doubt that today's Republicans would opposed the Interstate Highway System.


There is a legitimate place for the government - a small place.

There is a legitimate place for government regulation - to keep everyone honest.


The problem is that the leftists take that SMALL LEGITIMATE PLACE, and use it to justify MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS, SPENDING BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.


Then they mock the Republicans - you like the post office, don't you? So the government should run the doctor's office too, right?


It is sad that people say such things, because it means they can never have a reasonable conversation.

AND by the way, the East Anglia scientists were so confident of their evidence, they spent years faking data.

AND they admitted there has been no global warming in 10 years - hardly a run-away situation.

AND yet the leftists prefer to IGNORE THE WORDS OF THEIR OWN SCIENTISTS.

Pretty delusional huh?

Just like saying that today's Republicans would be against the Interstate Highway System - and I guess they would be against the Post Office too.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

UnAmerican ? Is there any other word for it ?

Yea Joseph McCarthy.

Again your whining about the first amendment right to abuse WP rules is pathetic. Want
to set your own rules of blog civility since you are unwilling to abide by CC's rules,
buy a newspaper and start your own blog site.
If you don't like the rules here, then simply leave as you were told to by CC last week.
or go toncourt and try for an injunction. Its doubtful any court would give you the 15 minutes of fame that you demand here. Hopefully by monday CC will follow through and finally banish you. Even jake who I often disagreed with got the message when CC told him he was no longer welcome here. Apparently you don't have the maturity of jake.


Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute, didn't McCarthy claim that Milton Eisenhauer was a communist and that Ike knew it. And something about the military generals being communists.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall ANY such post from noa. Most of the Fix posts are available somewhere on the Internet. So you need to paste-in noa's posts if you are going to put that out there about him.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler is here - time to bring out the venom against the banned poster

Leftists - here is your chance for even-handedness.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I've been reading the "Path to Power" by Robert Caro. I had heard it was one of the best books about political strategy, and I have to agree.

There is a brief section about Joe McCarthy (since we keep seeing "unAmerican" everywhere). The author writes that McCarthy initially started his unAmerican rant because of his alcoholism and his need to be the center of attention. He loved going to bars with his reporter friends, buying drinks for the whole crowd, and hinting he knew about communists in the government, in order to keep their attention. Then the reporters would ask him about his secret lists at press conferences, and he had to keep up the rant to avoid losing face.

Eventually, he engaged in his full scale paranoid hunt. His alcoholism fueled his paranoia. His paranoia fueled his drinking.

And, of course, finally he just imploded after accusing Eisenhauer of harboring or being a communist. Wasn't that the last straw?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama's vision for America:


Tie the hands of the US military in Afghanistan - when things will be going so badly that the troops will begin pulling out in July 2011

PLEASE NOTE: there seems to be some confusion as to whether the withdraw date of July 2011 is WITH CONDITIONS OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS.

Whenever Obama or Biden speak, they always seem to leave out the conditions part.


Anyway - Obama is RISKING THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN.

And Obama looked like he was straining to look strong this week.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I was really young brigade when Ike was in office but one thing I know is that the current GOP would totally oppose his construction of our national highway
system and label it is a socialist expenditure. Secondly Ike saved the US from e nazis world domination not quite the equivalency of defeating the Iraqis.

I had some very relevant questions to mike about Petreaus he didn't have the opportunity to respond to:


1. Has he even declared that he is a R?
2. What are his policy positions on fundamental R issues like abortion, immigration, taxes, deficits, global warming etc. I doubt you or mike have any idea where he stands on those bedrock R issues;
3. If his positions conflict with basic
R ideology do you feel that R primary voters would merely look the other way and vote against their own beliefs? Doubtful imho.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

And oh, he lies alot. Show me where I have committed antosemitism (or bigotry against Indians)

And

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 2:09 PM
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Don't know about Indians, but I seem to recall a post agreeing with someone who said the Jews should all get out of Israel and return to Germany and Poland. Also something about arming their enemies and pulling the plug. Since we're talking about an ethnic minority who had about six million of its members exterminated in the middle of the last century---since we're talking about a group whose "homeland" is surrounded by hostiles who teach their children that Jews are subhuman, like monkeys and other such creatures, and should be wiped off the face of earth---and since we have groups right here in the USA teaching that those we consider Jews are really evil imposters (the term hooked nose, bagle-eating _____ comes to mind), then I regard your comments as bigoted.

If you sided with someone who called for all blacks to return to Africa, I suppose that wouldn't be racist. Right? Of course, you're entitled to your vulgar theories and your "crude and distasteful" style as long as you leave 12BarBlues alone and blame your ill temper on Jake Whatshisname.

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone tried to get hold of the WaPo IT people? Maybe there is someone there on the weekend.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"And oh, he lies alot. Show me where I have committed antosemitism (or bigotry against Indians)

And

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 2:09 PM"
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noa, Don't hold your breath waiting for a response to that nonsense.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


Any complaining is a violation of the Federal Civil Right Act - just as if the object was to hinder someone's right to vote - the objective was to hinder someone's right to speech.


It was a COORDINATED PARTISAN ATTACK.

UnAmerican actions by a bunch of leftists - some of whom admit to being socialists.

Trample the Constitution - and instead of realizing what you did, you prefer to jump up and down on the Constitution.


UnAmerican ? Is there any other word for it ?


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Well now, that isn't exactly right, is it? It wasn't CC's idea to ban 37th, he merely responded to all the incessant whining and complaining by a few others here who couldn't seem to master the art of not reading posts in which they had no interest.

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You lie like aveug. The only poster here who didn't date he wanted 37th gone was you. Birds of a feather.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Just between us, don't you think it is interesting that NO ONE tries to rebut scrivener. I think we all know in our hearts that it would be useless. Scrivener wouldn't believe one word of the rebutal.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:43 PM
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In fairness to Scrivener, I have not tried to rebut him because I am totally unfamiliar with the basis for his accusations. He posts links, but I must admit I've never clicked on one. His claims seem so outrageous that I simply ignore them, sort of like the Orson Welles broadcast of WAR OF THE WORLDS. Imagine how silly we'll feel in hindsight, if he turns out to be on to something.

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Brigade


The liberals used to call Petraeus BETRAY-US.

Ironic how all the leftists are behind him now - further irony is provided that McChrystal go hit with supposedly using a play-on Biden's name.

Same offense, huh ?


Obama doesn't know what he is doing in Afghanistan - if he did, he would have never mentioned ANY DATE in his speech at West Point.

The lowest cadet at West Point knew instantly that was a stupid military mistake.

How is that Harvard degree working for you now ?

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"... You're obsessed Joe. You're beating a dead horse. ... Do you actually believe there are people who post here who have not yet gotten your message about Nikki. ...
Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 1:55 PM"
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Wrong again, prison-beverage. :-)

What I'm hearing, based on posts to rightwing sites, is that the SC voters did NOT know about Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa before but are now openly questioning why she campaigns under a stage name (Nikki Haley).

As well, they are questioning (a) the authenticity of her commitmemnt to Jerry Falwell-ism given that she appears to be a practicing Sikh, according to Internet information (not that there's anything wrong with that) and (2) her alleged "relationship" with two individuals, both of whom have made public statements confirming they "knew" Nim.

As to No. 2 (the Man-izer allegations), notably, Nim has fallen back to a non-denial denial: i.e., you can't prove it.

You know full well that if it weren't a big issue, her yard sign would read: "Vote Nimrata for Governor!" But it doesn't, does it?
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Case closed. QED

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

12Bar I'm with you on Brigade, sorry DD but I think you're wrong. The snark to content ratio is 100:0 and the altering quoted posts is a deal-breaker on its own. Also the practice of declaring his opponent "routed" based on his own say-so and nothing else is tiresome and shabby.

And oh, he lies alot. Show me where I have committed antosemitism (or bigotry against Indians)

And

Posted by: Noacoler | June 26, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

The other archetypal TP candidate is Marco Rubio. He is doing better than Hayworth, but he can't seem to get any traction beyond his 34% http://www.pollster.com/polls/fl/10-fl-sen-ge-rvmvc.php. Rubio is now edging toward the center, but it's hard to see that supporting pre-existing conditions is going to get him the points he needs.

I'm just wondering if the TP craze has peaked for now, and maybe for this cycle? Any thoughts?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Brigade

When you said "white opponent" you hit it correctly.


broadwayjoe is trying to stir up racist sentiments.

Is that post-racial ???? These Obama people are unbelievable.

They want to be able to throw out FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM AGAINST THE TEA PARTY.

But when they see some electoral beneiit to stirring up RACISM, they go for it.


The Obama people can not be trusted at all.

Obama committed himself to being post-racial.

That means NO FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM - or using racist charges at all in political discourse.

Too bad Obama is a liar - because this situation has actually set racial relations BACK 40 years.

A very sad result.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Once again, the liberal tendency to think for everybody is on full display...

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 26, 2010 12:37 PM
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They're afraid the General hasn't spent enough time community organizing, or in law school. Also, think how many years of contemplation it must take to decide where you stand on such things as abortion, the death penalty, gay rights, etc.?

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Powell saw the folly in a general running for POTUS why wouldn't Petraeus?


Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 12:25 PM
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Didn't you like Ike?

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

You're smarter than that, L1.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 11:54 AM
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L1 is correct. You're obsessed Joe. You're beating a dead horse. No one sees this the way you do, yet you continue to spam the board with comments about this name issue. Do you actually believe there are people who post here who have not yet gotten your message about Nikki. How many votes do you think you're going to round up for her white opponent?

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama has already announced last December that his military policy in Afghanistan is "cut and run" starting next July.


This was done at the urging of Biden.

I can't remember any President - who in a speech - starts to list the Generals who "agree with his policy."

That signals a weakness to the nation - and a weakness to the enemy.


Obama's policies are causing us to lose the war in Afghanistan.

What is going on over there now is OBAMA'S PRETEND WAR.

Obama is asking men and women in OBAMA'S PRETEND WAR - just so Obama can look good before Obama runs away from the battle to defend this nation.

Pretty serious stuff.

I am sure the leftists on this board do not care - they only care in as much as it hurts Obama's political numbers.

Again - the democrats show that their partisan motivations are primary to them - not what is best for the national security of this nation.

A very dangerous group of people to have anywhere near a government building, much less running the place.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain will easily return to the US Senate as the sad and pathetic characature of a man he once was.
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What I am trying to understand is why. Isn't McCain the ultimate Washington insider? Isn't Hayworth the ultimate TP candidate? Isn't AZ the almost ultimate red party state?

If you look at the polls, it isn't so much that McCain is gaining. It's that Hayworth is declining. http://www.pollster.com/polls/az/10-az-sen-reppr.php

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

s2 is a special case. He was/is a legitimate journalist for whom things may have gone sideways. As I have said before, I cannot buy into s2's agenda, but I would not be surprised if he has the last laugh in the end.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Agree with our pick? Disagree? The comments section awaits.
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Disagree. The Worst Week in Washington belongs to the Washington Post (formerly a respectable newspaper, but now a mere mouthpiece for America's ruling class).

And now for something that's worth the time it takes to read it:

http://tiny.cc/y5oyx

=>Why the Hacks Hate Michael Hastings
by Barrett Brown<=

You're welcome.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | June 26, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"complaining by a few others"
actually with a few exceptions it was pretty universal.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

12: Fair enough...

But, for me, "Nikki Haley," the teabag-loving, family values fan of the Confederacy, is the only masquerade.

On the other hand, "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa" is legit. IMO, Nim, the ambitious, calculating practicing Sikh with the (allegedly) overactive libido (hence the media nickname for her, "the Man-izer") is most likely the real deal.
_________________

Now that the word is getting out on Mrs. Randhawa among the SC voters, who until now knew nothing about her, her prospects for election are diminishing.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I guess a "crude and distasteful" style is okay if there are legitimate reasons, known only to you, to justify it. Right?

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 1:41 PM
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First, those reasons are not just known to me. They are not known to you apparently.

Second, I don't defend anyone's crude and distasteful style, not noacoler and not you. The difference is that noacoler leaves me alone and you do not.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

12bar I spent 2 weeks in Sedona in March and the folks I spoke with in Phoenix and Sedona 1. Didn't know who Hayworth was beyond his district in Tempi and 2. Were totally disintereted in politics b/w of their current economic plight which has deteriorated since with their silly immigration policy. McCain is outspending Hayworth 10 to 1 in ads. When I reported that I felt it unlikely that Hayworth would have a prayer in his race, here, I was quickly attacked as a leftist McCain sympathizer. McCain has become a sorry excuse for the maverick label he once cherished and there is nothing more than his defeat in a primary that would have been more personally satisfying but as I felt back in March it aint going to happen. McCain will easily return to the US Senate as the sad and pathetic characature of a man he once was. That is too bad 12bar.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

37th, it's amazing to me that you cannot avoid a blog where you are not wanted, even by the blog owner.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 10:47 AM

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Well now, that isn't exactly right, is it? It wasn't CC's idea to ban 37th, he merely responded to all the incessant whining and complaining by a few others here who couldn't seem to master the art of not reading posts in which they had no interest.

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a problem with his content b/c it's our job to rebut him.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 1:34 PM |
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Just between us, don't you think it is interesting that NO ONE tries to rebut scrivener. I think we all know in our hearts that it would be useless. Scrivener wouldn't believe one word of the rebutal.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues wrote,
"re:noacoler

Noa has legitimate reasons to be deeply angry. I happen to know these reasons, but I won't disclose them on his behalf."

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I guess a "crude and distasteful" style is okay if there are legitimate reasons, known only to you, to justify it. Right?

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

We don't talk about it much anymore, but I keep an eye on the rollout of HCR.

One way it has affected the current political climate, is that Rubio has come out supporting certain provisions of the HCR bill, while wanting to repeal the remainder. Of course, the two provisions he wants are pre-existing conditions and keeping children on until 27 (both poll well).

I suspect his inability to edge up in HIS polls and Crist's improving poll numbers, has Rubio nervous and wanting to edge more toward the middle and pick up votes there.

Still early days yet, but Rubio must be worried.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

For the record, my search of past Fixes has revealed no posts by "noa" that said anything derogatory about "Indians." Quite the contrary, the record is clear that, in his posts, noa has been quite outspoken in his defense of the civil rights of racial and ethnic minorities, even to his detriment in fact.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 9:50 AM
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I guess Jews don't count as ethnic minorities.

Posted by: Brigade | June 26, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

To answer somebody's earlier question:

I guess I support the banning of 37/sunbeam on two grounds (1) he has already been banned so the issue is mainly enforcement of the prior ban and (2) he is spamming the same posts verbatim, robo-posting over and over during the entire day (if he posted original material each time, I'd be okay).

I don't have a problem with his content b/c it's our job to rebut him.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Did everyone note that the latest poll on AZ Senate has John McCain with a 23 point lead over Hayworth (Magellan).

Glenn Beck went after Hayworth, saying his campaign was done. (Truly) Hayworth had made some ads for one of those "how to get government money for free" companies and had to apologize.

Maybe Beck decided that backing Hayworth, who couldn't seem to get above 40%, was a fool's errand, and therefore found some reason to abandon Hayworth (my suspicion).

So much for anti-incumbent sentiment in AZ anyway.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

@leichtman and bwj,

I find myself in my usual position--in the middle. I understand bwj's frustration that an R candidate can masquerade as two different people to two different constituencies. And how BHO was vilified for his actual name, a name that did NOT help him get elected, and one that he didn't try to hide.

And I understand leichtman's point that focusing on the dually named Haley/Randhawa isn't a winning point politically. The polls continue to favor H/R.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

12: thanks for the follow up on JakeD. I didn't know he was posting over there. So L1 was in fact correct and I was wrong.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


Except that Obama refuses to sign a release and allow Hawaii to show everyone what is in the SECRET FOLDER IN HAWAII


That would settle the issue.

So why won't Obama do that ???

Obama could have settled this issue a long, long time ago.


Anyway - no American throws a baseball the way Obama does.

Case closed.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

12bar

Leichtman refuses to answer whether he is a part of moveon.org

12bar - take a look at the archives of 2008 - you will see what was going on then.

You should really keep your mind open - there are groups close to Obama who are employing internet strategies.

And if you ask me, broadwayjoe defends Noacoler a little too quickly.

Ddawd was behind the recent set of complaints - and he drummed them all up - and he kept complaining - like he is autistic or something.

Yea - there is a group on here which is working together - just open your eyes.

Leichtman, are you a part of moveon.org ???


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

the person posting as jake2 last week was
perfectly civil and unjake like; not making constant personal attacks as jake had and totally unlike our current problem with 37th.
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It's not the same person--not James Dort. Slightly different moniker.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

the person posting as jake2 last week was
perfectly civil and unjake like; not making constant personal attacks as jake had and totally unlike our current problem with 37th.

I have a real problem with your insistence that Ms. Haley be forced to campaign using her maiden name rather than her married/nick name.
Taking that position makes us look small and sympathetic to those same looney ideas as used by the birther movement. I have to side with the GOP here as there are many many more impt issues to deal with than how a candidate lists her name on the ballot. It looks simply petty.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

These "rules" you speak of.

Suppose for instance - in the future some group decides to impose some set of "rules" on the Washington Post.

AND then some politically-motivated group tries to ASTROTURF the enforcing authority - and the Washington Post gets shut down ???

Would you support that ??

Who is making these rules ?? And HOW are the rules getting enforced ???

If enforcement is UNEVEN, IS PROMPTED BY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED PEOPLE ???


Sure sounds like you are on slipperly slope.

I don't like some things you have said, so maybe I should organize a bunch of people and get you banned - is that what you support ???


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

@bwj,

It is hard to think of Jake as a gentleman, when he seemed the furthest thing from it. But, he has been posting on Dave Weigel's blog as JakeD2, so I think if his moniker is good over there, it's good on the Fix. I'm assuming the WaPo blogs has central IT control.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@leichtman,

Scrivener thinks cell phone towers are torture chambers and the WaPo (or someone) is preventing him from posting.

37th thinks there is an organization who get together secretly through email and then comes over here to attack him to prevent him from posting.

See any similarities?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

L1: you may be right but my recollection is JakeD came back, post-banning, as JakeD2 and then got re-banned. Somehow, after that, they were able to keep him banned. Don't recall his being a gentleman about it -- but, again, I may be mis-remembering the sad case of subject "JakeD/JakeD2."

We may want to put together at some point "The Complete History of Fix Trolls." :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama should not be giving BLANKET AMNESTY to ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Such an action has to be unconstitutional.

In any event, OBAMA IS NOW SETTING OFF A MASSIVE WAVE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

What person in the third world would not want to ILLEGALLY COME HERE NOW IF THEY THING OBAMA MIGHT LEGALIZE THEM ???

Obama is now setting off the GREATEST FLOOD OF ILLEGAL ALIENS IN HISTORY.

UNPRECEDENTED.

One major problem with Obama is a complete INABILITY TO THINK AHEAD


Sure sign of a guy who just isn't that smart, contrary to what his people might say.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama should not be giving BLANKET AMNESTY to ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Such an action has to be unconstitutional.

In any event, OBAMA IS NOW SETTING OFF A MASSIVE WAVE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

What person in the third world would not want to ILLEGALLY COME HERE NOW IF THEY THING OBAMA MIGHT LEGALIZE THEM ???

Obama is now setting off the GREATEST FLOOD OF ILLEGAL ALIENS IN HISTORY.

UNPRECEDENTED.

One major problem with Obama is a complete INABILITY TO THINK AHEAD


Sure sign of a guy who just isn't that smart, contrary to what his people might say.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Again you have been banned by CC and
no one will be answering your asine questions 37th.

and no mike I have never had the privilege of meeting a General but I did stay at Holiday Inn once. sorry about that I couldn't resist.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

sunlight/37: "Noa" posed a question to the community about what it "thought" about something. You can choose to answer his question or not. He did not accuse anyone of anything.
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@USMC: as far as I know, throughout his adult life, our President has gone by "Barack H. Obama." Unlike Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa, 44 has never felt the need to campaign under some fake stage name like "Nikki Haley," to curry favor with bigo-, er, ultraconservatives.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman

You never answered the question - are you a part of moveon.org ???


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

no one questions "As commander of MNSTC-I, NTM-I, he knows a lot more than you could imagine about domestic affairs"

but that begs the question since you are recommending that he run in 2012 for POTUS as a R.
Do you have ANY idea what his stand on
abortion, gay rights, taxes, global warming, deficits, government regulations, immigration etc are since these are ALL GOP litmus tests.
And how would the GOP feel if they learn he
is pro choice believes in global warming or in a progressive tax system? Somehow mike you mistakenly believe that b/c he is a General that he automatically buys into the entire right wing GOP litmus tests. Do you have any evidence of that? And for that matter has he even made ANY declarations that he is even a R like Powell or are your comments just wishful thinking? Do you think that GOP voters would simply overlook his policy positions on things like abortion, immigation, etc. b/c he is a decorated General. I sincerely doubt that would happen in a GOP primary contest that he would simply be given a pass?

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


Yes - the rules have been applied rarely here.


Noacoler has been banned 3 times - you never complain about him.

But the "rules" you speak of - if they were applied, you wouldn't be here - and the entire moveon.org crew would have been banned in 2008.

IN fact, so many people are getting away with so many things here, it is impossible to figure out which rules get enforced at all -

So the enforcement has rendered the "rules" so VAGUE, how is anyone supposed to be able to follow them ???


Again, the moveon.org has created an atmosphere here SO HOSTILE to posters - that they have to defende themselves by doing things they would not ordinarily do.


I have no sympathy for you. I really don't.

AND at the very least - a group of people GANGED UP - and started to ASTROTURF the Washington Post -


THAT is hindering one's Freedom of Speech - because the enforcement you are talking about would have never happened without that leftist mob mentality.

These concepts are probably too difficult for you to understand.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between hindering someone trying to vote - and hindering someone who is attempting to EXERCISE THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH ???

Not much, it is still a violation of the Federal Civil Rights laws.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1 -- I'm not sure if you know any generals.

I can guarantee you that a lowly 1-star has more executive experience than the floundering oil-stained deer currenly in the headlights. There is a phrase we use: "Overcome by events" -- perfect description of our professor-in-chief.

Let's not sell Gen P short, or pejoratively refer to a distinguished military officer in the white house as "folley". As commander of MNSTC-I, NTM-I, he knows a lot more than you could imagine about domestic affairs.

I will tell you this as someone who is currenly in Baghdad, and who is privy to a 4-star daily brief.

Once again, the liberal tendency to think for everybody is on full display...

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 26, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that's why barry changed his name just for politics.
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I hate to get in the middle of someone else's fistfight, but how did Barack Obama change his name? I must have missed that.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

37th I believe in Rules and Laws that apparently you have zero respect for.

The last time we heard that garbage about calling everyone they disagree with Un American was Joe McCarthy.Apparently the 2 of you have a lot in common.

Simple question 37th? Are you calling CC
and the WP UnAmerican because they have decided to enforce their own rules and ban you.
Since the WP pays for and provides this site do you believe that they don't have the legal right to establish and enforce rules of decorum or are you the only one that gets to make that decision? Hopefully when CC returns on monday he will learn that you are hardly the
gentleman that jake was and enforce his decision to ban you. If this site has become a free for all without any rules whatsoever, you have effectively won and on monday they will need to change the name of this site from the FIX to 37th.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse


12Bar


I don't see you complaining about the comment below - or the offenses of any of the leftists on this board.


Did a poster Noacoler - accuse the reporter of racism ???


Look at this post below


What an outrage.

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@BWJ: anyone NOT think that CC's private communications refer to "ni66ers" and "sp|cs?"

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:33 PM


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"BHO can't credibly run for reelection as "Barry Hugh Sein" or "Soupy Sales," rather he is "Barack H. Obama." Our 44th President is proud of his name and culture and challenges the voters to judge him on his character and ideas. Mrs. Randhawa should do the same. "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa" should appear on the November ballot."

Yeah, that's why barry changed his name just for politics. You cite barry to refute political opportunism -- an audacity outdone [possibly, but not probably] by using Stalin as a model of anti-corruption relative to Bill Clinton.

This decade began with BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrom), which has tragically mutated to its far worse viral pathogen - BHO-DS.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 26, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The media is reporting that Obama is considering unilaterally giving BLANKET AMNESTY TO ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Unilaterally - meaning without the consent of Congress.

This would be an abuse of the pardon power - which would make Obama eligible to be impeached.

In any event, I'm not sure if a President could pardon a person for a future offense.

Because, AMNESTY would involve pardoning a person for an offense which they will commit tomorrow - being in this country against the immigration laws.

Obama does not have the power to change the immigration laws by himself - only Congress can do that.

This is just another in the "desperation tactics" being used by Obama and his people.

One has to wonder what is next.

We all can see here how the Obama people feel about the Bill of Rights.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Petraues is simply a military General USMC
and has zero experience about civilian matters.
What is his position on abortion, gay rights,
the budget deficit, global warming, tax policies, illegal immigration? I bet you have no idea. His positions may actually be totally contrary to everything the GOP stands for so why you would presume he could ever be a GOP POTUS nominee is baffeling. He would have less of a chance than Wesley Clark. Powell saw the folly in a general running for POTUS why wouldn't Petraeus?

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

@leichtman,

Actually 37th was blocked several days ago. Within an hour or so, and every day since, he has renamed himself and successfully gotten back on, to be re-blocked. 37th has no pride whatsoever, which does say something about Jake. At least Jake had enough self respect to leave where he was no longer wanted.

It is clear that 37th is obsessed with his one man campaign to save the world from liberalism. And the liberals he chooses to battle are, unfortunately, us. He's convinced we are a conspiracy who privately email each other with "talking points" to disparage him. Can you believe the arrogance of that? He's SO important that it takes an organization to defeat him. Right.

Why we have gotten this curse, I don't know. CC also is cursed with this bad boy, who won't go, won't change and won't follow the rules.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Shrink says he is a socialist.


How about you leichtman, are you a socialist too ???

We all know you are unAmerican.

Are there any other parts of the Bill of Rights you don't like ???

Besides - the BIGGEST SPAMMER on this site is moveon.org - WHICH SENDS MULTIPLE POSTERS HERE TO SPAM THE PLACE.


So, anyone who is here has to deal with that atmosphere.

Leichtman - are you a part of moveon.org ???


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Chris I agree with your analysis for 2 reasons:

(1) Commander, US Forces Afg IS a demotion from Commander, Central Command [unless he remains dual-hatted, which would be impossible.]

(2) Despite what the left-wingers claim to know about "GOP Circles", I have actually seen/heard a lot of support for a 2012 run by Gen P. IMO, the idea of candidate Gen P is 10x more exciting than a yawn-lenty-omney-abee run. [Of course, this is my opinion, as a conservative, not my opinion about conservative opinions from the left wing point of view... why do liberals always believe they can think for you better than you can think for your self?]

Posted by: USMC_Mike | June 26, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

12Bar

37 nominated Patraeus for the Worst Week in Washington - do you remember that ???


And he even pointed out tha Patraeus had to be happy being in Florida - and now Patraeus has to move back to Afghanistan.


OUCH


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

You were BANNED by the WP yesterday NOW LEAVE.

Apparently someone who thinks they know a lick
about the First Amendment believes they are above simple rules like those at this site which you have constantly violated according to CC. Jake left as a gentleman but apparently you have zero respect for those at the WP in authority.
The First Amendment sets limitations like
you can't commit libel or slander, use fighting words to incite riots or mass panic, like yelling fire in a crowded theatre, or advertise using dishonest or fraudulent messages. We have laws and rules saying you can't speed, run traffic lights or crash your car into someone else. Before using the first amendment as a smoke screen try learning something about first amendment case law.

This is not about me , broadway, nocaolor, 12 bar brigade, zouk or any other person at this site.

This is about respect for the folks at the WP who run and pay for this post and THEY have decided,(not me) that they don't want you here. period. If you don't like it, go hire a lawyer and change what CC posted yesterday.

YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED BY CC. NOW LEAVE!

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The backbone of the FIRST AMENDMENT is tolerance.

Apparently the Obama people do not believe in the FIRST AMENDMENT.

Clearly this exchange PROVES that Obama and his people are a THREAT TO THIS NATION AND ITS LIBERTY.


No one wants to believe this - but the Obama people keep on providing evidence to the American People.

Obama has already showed his inclination toward FORCING HIS FAR LEFT WING VIEWS ONTO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

A President represents the PEOPLE - and he should take primary consideration of their views.

By the People, for the People, of the People.

Its not by the Left, for the Left, of the Left.

What is the worst - Obama and his people appear PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE WITH THROWING ASIDE TRADITIONAL CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.

This is unAmerican.

When the democrats wanted to use the filibuster - they used it - and the democrats historically have used the filibuster FAR MORE than anyone else.

Now they don't want the filibuster.


The Bill of Rights is the cornerstone of this NATION.

Anyone seeking to RESTRICT THE RIGHTS UNDER THE BILL OF RIGHTS - is guilty of CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.

Just as if that person was hindering someone trying to vote.

Someday, hopefully Obama will be out, and the prosecutions will begin.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Ignore sunlight. He was banned by CC yesterday and needs to leave like a gentleman until CC says it acceptable for him to return.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 11:52 AM
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Ironic that today 37th is "sunlight". If it were only so.

37th creates an environment which is like a poorly maintained dog park. If you get my drift.

You can pick your way around the poop to a point. Then, there's so much poop, there's almost nowhere to put your foot. Then, the poop piles start getting bigger (ALLCAPS), and stinkier (exclamation points). Then, the poop piles start spontaneous multiplication (multiple duplicate posts).

About that time, you just leave the dog park and write a letter to the city. The city can either clean it up (are you listening CC?) or they can just say "oh, well, can't do anything about those poop piles".

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman


If you do not believe in the Bill of Rights, you are unAmerican.


So I guess you do not support the United States Constitution.

What about your liberal friend Noacoler - never seen you talk to him that way.

Anyway - you are unAmerican - and probably a socialist too.

NOW pack your bags and leave the country now - you do not deserve to live in AMERICA.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Thinking more about it: the very fact that Mrs. Randhawa campaigns exclusively under her stage name, "Nikki Haley," proves my point.

As others have noted, Nimrata believes she cannot win if she campaigns under her real name -- so it DOES make a difference and she knows it. She wouldn't bother using a stage name if it didn't matter. Notably Mrs. Randhawa, to our knowledge, has not explained publicly WHY she is running as "Nikki Haley." And it is hardly insignificant: If 44 had tried to run as "Barry O'Bannion," Faux News would have had a four-hour special complaining about it.

You're smarter than that, L1.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

sunlight you were banned yesterday by CC. Do you have such little respect for those at the
WP that you think that you can simply change your name and all will be forgiven? Get off
of CC's Site NOW. Maybe you didn't get the hint yesterday. The people running this site don t want you here regardless of what you call yourself. Now pack your bags and leave.

Ignore sunlight. He was banned by CC yesterday and needs to leave like a gentleman until CC says it acceptable for him to return.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

is the WP so technologically challenged
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apparently, the answer is yes. I'm embarrassed for CC that he can't make a decision without 37th gleefully flouting him.

I suspect this is why CC has been so reluctant to ban abusive posters. Nothing makes CC look weaker than not being able to make it stick.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Your reasoning agrees with those who said that Hussein should have been on the ballot with Obama.

Apparently Obama didn't agree with you - because Obama did not put his middle name on the ballot.

Which means Obama is NOT proud of his middle name - that is your reasoning, right ?


You are really pressing this issue - what you are really doing is trying to encourage people to be racist against Nikki Haley.

So I suppose you support those who encourage people to be racist against Obama.

This is the same thing as you are doing -

Do you realize that, or are you completely stupid ???


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

sunlight you were banned yesterday by CC. Do you have such little respect for those at the
WP that you think that you can simply change your name and all will be forgive? Get off
of CC's Site NOW. Maybe you didn't get the hint yesterday. The people running this site don t want you here regardless of what you call yourself. Now pack your bags and leave.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

12Barblues


You do realize that your statements support those who say that Obama and Obama's people are a THREAT TO LIBERTY IN THIS COUNTRY - INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH.


To be honest, no one wants to believe that a major party in this country has been taken over by such unAmerican people.

Your statements also start lending themselves to support those who say Obama and his people are socialists - and are seeking to IMPOSE a different economic system on this nation.


Your words.

Not mine.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

L1, cut it out. You know better than that. You are fully aware that Nim is trying to fool the so-called "conservative base" in SC with the fake name.

This isn't just a matter of someone picking a nickname like "Scooter" Libby or "Mac" Mathias to campaign under. Mrs. Randhawa, for whatever reason, is trying to hide her identity. Her Sikh community and the SC voters deserve more respect from Mrs. Randhawa than that.

BHO can't credibly run for reelection as "Barry Hugh Sein" or "Soupy Sales," rather he is "Barack H. Obama." Our 44th President is proud of his name and culture and challenges the voters to judge him on his character and ideas. Mrs. Randhawa should do the same. "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa" should appear on the November ballot.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

is the WP so technologically challenged that
when CC says someone is banned, they easily return under another posting name and why is CC failing to stop that practice? Personally I find those who come here changing their sign in names every week(left or right) to be cowards who won't stand behind behind the words in their own postings.
They should be banned for at least 30 days and
denied access to this site,including jake, 37th and sunlight, once CC makes that call, period.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

this latest trick by the GOP to support candidates that they disagree withe 100% when it looks their candidate 'might not' prevail.
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What do you mean?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

12bar

No kidding - this blog sounds like an echo chamber when no conservatives are here.

Did you ever wonder that moveon.org as sent so many posters here - that the conservatives feel they have to post extra in order to achieve some balance ???

AND 12Bar - last time I checked, the First Amendment did not include the standards which you support.


From your comments, you are against the First Amendment, which makes you unAmerican.

The Bill of Rights is what makes us all American -

If you do not believe in the Bill of Rights, you are not American.


Most extremist groups, like the leftists in this country today, throw aside liberty in favor of their insane ideas. You are not far away from complete insanity.

Do you have problems with any other Amendments in the Bill of Rights ???

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

broadway give it up: "Nim should be listed on the SC ballot as "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa"

Why? She can use any legal name, married name, nickname, etc. that she sees fit. Absolutely nothing wrong with that practice. I have worked on a lot of campaigns and seen that it is quite common for candidates, Ds and Rs to use nick names and maiden names on ballots, and courts and state election commissions have recognized that practice as long as there is a legitimate reason to using that name. I have no problem with her using Nikki or Hailey on the ballot.
If voters in S Carolina don't want her elected
they will oppose her for her policy positions(unlikely) not for her name on the ballot. Your
continuous post that she should run with her
sheik name is simply petty and bad politics and never works in politics.

What I do have a problem with is a major GOP
benefactor putting up over $500,000 to try and run a Green Party candidate against Bill White especially since a new poll coming out this week shows the race tied tied at 43%. Seems like it usually ends up being Rs using these kinds of dirty tricks like the New Hampshire GOP phone jammers, the suspicious $10,000 check to Greene in S Carolina and this latest trick by the GOP to support candidates that they disagree withe 100% when it looks their candidate 'might not' prevail. When are these kinds of political tricks going to be called out and ended?

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 26, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm from way out in left field, an unapologetic Scandinavian or say, New Zealand style Socialist and I don't mind Brigade, armpeg or leapin, I don't mind dottydo or that super right wing granny...the whole point here is to make your best political arguments. If that is all they got, that is great. But making a mess of everything all day every day is just mendacious.

Best would be a block poster widget, that way, if a regular poster fails to make points interesting enough to follow, no one has to; new people or those who post irregularly would get their views up for all to read. Balance would be preserved.

Well, there is no use whining. I'll keep looking back in to see if political discourse is possible, I have really enjoyed learning from almost all of you.

2222 characters remaing

Posted by: shrink2 | June 26, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

bwj,

Actually, I never read huffington. The few times I did read it, it was so one sided (at that time) that I didn't feel I was learning anything. The moderation you describe is interesting in the effect it creates. Moderation should be done with "moderation", eh?

I used to blog at RCP, but tired of it for the same reason. Very one sided, very angry, very tiresome.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

@bwj,

I am not a fan of banning commenters because of their content, meaning whether I agree with the content or not. Spamming, though, falls in another category.

Do you mean you did not support the blocking of 37th?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

12:

I'm not a fan of banning. HuffPo aggressively moderates and as a result the posted comments give a false impression of the views expressed in the total comments, published and unpublished.

Often, when comments are posted at HuffPo about a controversial figure like Palin, the negative comments are sometimes so insulting that they get screened out, leaving just the positive ones. This gives the absurd impression the comments on Palin at HuffPo were pro-Palin.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

re:noacoler

Noa has legitimate reasons to be deeply angry. I happen to know these reasons, but I won't disclose them on his behalf. The reasons go back several years and involve CC and another poster (Jake) who we all should remember as one of the more toxic human beings on this blog. Toxic people cause toxic problems.

I have told noa that he is clearly entitled to his anger, but that I hope he finds a way to make peace within his heart, so that his legitimate anger doesn't end up harming him. I would guess that those who count noa as a cyberfriend would concur.

re: 37th who is back today as sunlight.

I suppose he thinks he can come back on weekends when he hopes there is no technical support at the Fix.

Is there no technical support to ban sunlight?

37th, it's amazing to me that you cannot avoid a blog where you are not wanted, even by the blog owner. You can't stay away...you can't change your style. You openly flout the rules of the blog and seem delighted to do so.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 26, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Your facts are wrong, Bud.

Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa, who was last seen speechifying in front of a Confederate museum in SC, DIDN'T change her name. Moreover, in her interactions with the Sikh and Asian media, Mrs. Randhawa seems to use her real name. I'm glad she does so because it's a lovely name.

But for reasons Mrs. Randhawa has not cared to articulate publicly, she campaigns across the South Carolina countryside under the name "Nikki Haley." Some feel the SC voters, and the Sikh community she's a member of, deserve an answer as to why. The voters and the Sikh community await her HONEST response.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


There is a long history of ethnic minorities in this country "americanizing" their names.


Greeks shorten their names - Italians have dropped the last vowel. Germans have changed their names completely.


Few blacks have their african names - instead they still carry the names of their slave masters.

So your point is worthless - many other groups have done that.

There are millions of people in America who have done this.


YOU are doing nothing less than inciting a racist rant against Nikki Haley - and calling attention to her ethnic background in a negative way.

Your postings amount to hate speech. That is a fact.


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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The story is out: Obama is talking about a major tax increase against the middle class in order to pay down the deficit.


But the deficit was caused by Obama bailing out the banks - so make the banks pay.

The banks should pay for the damage done - just like BP - and that means the deficit.


Obama just doesn't get it.

Obama wants to destroy the middle class. Another broken campaign promise - More lies from Obama.


I think the democrats complained over and over again that Bush lied - once - there was only one lie that Bush was accused of.

Obama has been lying on multiple topics - over years - the democrats are such hypocrites.

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

sunlamp/37:

As we have earlier posted, many, including some in the Sikh media, have questioned why candidate Nimrata Kaur Randhawa, who embraces the so-called Tea Party movement, is campaigning as "Nikki Haley."

Her explanation to her community is that her real name would not fit on a yard sign. If you believe that answer, God bless you. Like the Sikh community she's a part of, we regard "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa" as a perfectly beautiful name. So it's a shame she doesn't campaign under it. And it would be interesting to find out WHY she doesn't.

This is an important emerging issue in SC, and to some in the Sikh community -- i.e., whether this candidate is an opportunist trying to fool the SC voters -- an issue more compelling than "Dan Coats, the anti-Obama."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


A simple search of the fix clearly shows that you enjoy using slurs on a regular basis

And your postings are nothing less than hate speech - against several different groups of American citizens.

Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


We can see you are trying to defend your friend Noacoler - however this posting can not be defended


Your postings are obviously racist against Asians - as well.

I will repost your friends posting below

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@BWJ: anyone NOT think that CC's private communications refer to "ni66ers" and "sp|cs?"

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:33 PM

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

For the record, my search of past Fixes has revealed no posts by "noa" that said anything derogatory about "Indians." Quite the contrary, the record is clear that, in his posts, noa has been quite outspoken in his defense of the civil rights of racial and ethnic minorities, even to his detriment in fact.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what is going on with this blog, but isn't this poster broadwayjoe inciting a racist frenzy against Nikki Haley ?


I remember how crazy the Obama people were about anyone saying the word Hussein around Obama -

This kind of racist postings should not be tolerated by the Washington Post.

This poster seems to hate many people - these postings amount to hate speech.

Here are three examples below.


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In order to dispel any notion that Nim is trying to fool the "conservative" voters (I'll be nice), Nim should be listed on the SC ballot as "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa," not "Nikki Haley," her fake name. And from now on, all Nim's campaign materials should refer to her as..."Nimrata Kaur Randhawa." Such a beautiful, lyrical name, don't you think?

Glad we could agree on something. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 9:31 PM


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squat2, none of the current stable of teabaggers such as Phalin and Racist Rand can beat BHO in 2012. In fact polls show that against BHO, Phalin would lose by 23 points and would win only six states. Sorry to break the news.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 6:10 PM

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Gotta go with Mr. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa (fake name "Nikki Haley").

Mr. Nim watchin' Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa provide "personal outreach" to lobbyists (allegedly) ain't livin'. Mr. Nim's mancard is revoked until further notice.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 5:36 PM

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

sunlight = the fake 37.

Good morning, fake 37.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Blade, noa asked a question of the community, no more. Some feel the general issue of bloggers' emails is legtimately in play because of the Dave Weigel controversy, which has generated a storm of commentary on the Internet and in the MSM.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 26, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure what is going on with this blog - but is this poster wishing that another poster would die ???


Sure seems like it

Look at this post - the sequence of the discussion makes clear that someone is wishing that someone else would die in an Emergency Room


Isn't that what Wiegel was fired for ?


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Wow. Maybe they lost him.

Sometimes, in the ER, if they get delirious, severely dehydrated person they forget to put potassium in the bag and if the person was already hypokalemic: asystole...and you might as well not bother to shock a flat line.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 26, 2010 12:19 AM

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure what is going on with this blog -


but did a poster Noacoler - accuse the reporter of racism ???


Look at this post below

What an outrage.

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@BWJ: anyone NOT think that CC's private communications refer to "ni66ers" and "sp|cs?"

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:33 PM

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Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

newagent99


How would you suppose a nation defend itself after it is attacked ?

Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

"* Petraeus is already a bona fide war hero "
for killing a few thousand US Troops?

Posted by: newagent99 | June 26, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

It is obvious that Petraeus was able to change Obama's war policy this week - however this aspect appears to be underreported.


Petraeus immediately has changed the Rules of Engagement - sending out an order changing the circumstances under which US troops can shoot back in Afghanistan.

Because this change went into effect right away, one can easily surmise that this was a condition which Petraeus asked Obama for in exchange for Petraeaus accepting the command in Afghanistan.

This is important - because it highlights how much Obama and the leftists in the administration - led by Biden - have been tying the hands of the military in Afghanistan.

Clearly, Obama and Biden do not want to fight the war in Afghanistan. If you do not believe that - read some of the articles on Rules of Engagement and see for yourself how difficult it is for US troops to shoot back.


In addition, Obama has made it clear that US Troops will be prosecuted for infractions.

And anyone captured on the battlefield has to be read their rights.


Obama has been fighting this war in a completely ridiculous way - and very much counter to his campaign promises.

Obama is placely the national security of this nation in jeopardy with these constraints on our military.

One scary part of this is Obama has been making these changes quietly - and the press has underreported these changes.

The consequences for this nation will be grave for years to come.

It is obvious Obama is running the risk of allowing the terrorists to re-group after being beaten back by Bush and Cheney - and Obama is allowing a dangerous situation to emerge.

If you are a leftist, and you wish to ignore all of this, you won't realize you are wrong until you turn on your tv and see a bomb go off somewhere in the US - like one almost did in Times Square just a few weeks ago.


Posted by: Sunlight | June 26, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Re: Brigade, I don't have a problem, per se with his snarkiness, but I just wish he would shift his ratio of snarkiness to actual discussion. Keep making fun of people you feel deserve it, but don't limit your contribution to this place to only snark.

That's my take on the guy. It's a free country and he can choose how to take it.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 26, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

I'll follow up to anyone who follows the blog. The best revenge is a life well lived. I had a rare chance to meet a dozen friends I never would have had without the Fix. So, I'll thank CC (and his not so evil minions) as well as the rest of this motley crew of Fixistas. Live your lives well, whether that be crusing on your yacht, building an uber-Mans in Vietnam, or relishing a 25 minute commute in Washington, DC. Life is good, folks. And very short. We have such an infinitesimal bite at a very big apple. Don't you get that?

Incidentally, the Blanks (the acapella group from Scrubs) ROCKS!!!

Buh-bye

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 26, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

To be exact, Noa, you insinuated CC regularly uses ethnic slurs in his personal emails. Ironic given some previous comments of yours (re:Indians). I have no illusions regarding the trolls. Spamming the blog is the first rule in my view and that was violated repeatedly by 37th and Jake before him. Writing nasty things about the troll actually gives that individual the attention they crave. You're feeding the beast, but don't seem to understand it. A shame as I think you have an interesting viewpoint.

I don't put you in the same category as Zouk or 37th, but Brigade is about right. As I said, a shame as I think both of you could add to the discussion. 37th got banned and you haven't moved an angstrom. What a shame.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 26, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Not the worst week, but perhaps a few bad days, Dave Weigel.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/on_journolist_and_dave_weigel.html?wprss=ezra-klein

I had no idea that Weigel's comments were a result of a leak.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 26, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Conservative choice: Obama. They pick him each and every week. I have declared that he is the defacto winner of the award and the haggling and discussion is really over who had the second worst week.

Me, I'd say Americans who are suffering through 10% unemployment. We have a system of government in which it requires 60% of Senators to pass anything. We have a mere 57% who want to do something for Americans. Republicans want to sell out our country for short term electoral gains. Maybe I'm just unrealistically patriotic to hope the members of the GOP decide to take Joe Cao's advice and disembowel themselves. But I don't think Americans qualify since we are looking through the eyes of Washington and Washington is well past the suffering of Americans.

How about Sarah Palin? With a bunch of new polls out this week on her inability to lead as well as the fact that her endorsement make people skeptical of the endorsee.

It's not so much a bad week for her since she will still make her speaking fees and whatnot. It's more a bad week for her disciples. Those who have found out that they are funnelling dollars into a massive sinkhole.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 26, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Maybe they lost him.

Sometimes, in the ER, if they get delirious, severely dehydrated person they forget to put potassium in the bag and if the person was already hypokalemic: asystole...and you might as well not bother to shock a flat line.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 26, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

The Repugs aren't going to do nearly as well with this falls mid-terms as they think they are.


Now we can add "voting against Wall Street Reform", along with "denying Americans their unemployment benefits" and "defending Big Oil" (BP) to the long list of things the Dems can use as devastating campaign ads against the Greedy Oil Party.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_IAN081P8I

Posted by: DrainYou | June 25, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Bobbie Jindal: Lying Dog Extraordinaire

I read this and was surprised at what a fraud this man is. Maybe there is some promise for him in Republican Politics!
Apparently He is his own most dangerous red tape.


"While Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has been criticizing the administration for allowing red tape to delay spill cleanup efforts, CBS News points out that the governor has not deployed thousands of the National Guard troops [1] available to help. Here’s CBS News:

Nearly two months after the governor requested—and the Department of Defense approved the use of 6,000 Louisiana National Guard troops—only a fraction—1,053—have actually been deployed by Jindal to fight the spill.

Jindal told CBS that while the administration did approve the troop request, the White House told him that individual tasks had to be authorized by the Coast Guard and BP. The Coast Guard responded that every request to use National Guard troops has been approved.

“There is nothing standing in the governor’s way from utilizing more National Guard troops,” Adm. Thad Allen, the commander of the federal response, told CBS.

During the months that these troops have apparently been available, Jindal has denounced federal bureaucracy for standing in the way of local responders. On May 29, in an appearance on ABC News’ “This Week,” Jindal described how federal and BP bureaucracy stood in the way [2] of boom being deployed to stop the oil that was advancing toward Terrebonne Parish.

“In that case, they literally had hard boom sitting on the dock and they didn’t deploy it,” Jindal said. “There was no excuse.”"

Yes, Jindal there is no excuse! Now get on with it and start mustering your own troops.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

@brigade,

You really don't understand me, do you. You can respond to anything you want, in any way you want. Respond to me in the boorish manner you find so engaging. But, I want you to know, that I find your style crude and distasteful. Not your political views, your style. How clear can I make it?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Brigade,

I will post here as much and as long as I wish. It's you who bothers me. You are rude, crude, lewd and boorish. I ask you again, please leave me alone.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:14 PM
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But you're not leaving me alone. This blog is for all participants. You do not get to post screeds and then decide who does and does not get to reply. That would require a blog of your own---an echo chamber.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey, just stopped by for a peek.
I don't see the Georgetown Troll.
Did his mom make him go to class?
I see zouk, hi zouk.

It was interesting to glance down.
Is he really gone, or just getting IV Ringers over in the GW ER?

Posted by: shrink2 | June 25, 2010 9:51 PM
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s2: Hesitate to say anything b/c I don't want to jinx things, but, yes, it appears he is...gone. Our fingers are crossed. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Is he really gone, or just getting IV Ringers over in the GW ER?

Posted by: shrink2 | June 25, 2010 9:51 PM
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That was my question too. Seems like everyone is holding their breath.

Yesterday, he was on here as a couple of monikers. You know he was blocked by CC?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

"I would imagine CC's private communications are less objectionable than the posts you and Joe make right here for all to see. ....

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:32 PM"
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brig-ade, I'd take that bet ANY day of the week. And I'm pretty sure noa would, too. We can't lose. LOL.

Out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe JD Hayworth should have won worst week (in Arizona).

Not only is McCain running away with the race, now 23 points ahead of Hayworth (see latest Magellan poll), but Glenn Beck declared on Wednesday that "J.D. Hayworth's campaign is over."

Hayworth apologized for his appearance in a 2007 infomercial for a company's questionable seminars promoting "free money" in government grants.

Beck further said that it was the idea that Hayworth was performing a very un-conservative, un-Tea Party act of encouraging people to ask the government for money.

Ronald Reagan would be rolling over in his grave, for violating the 11th Commandment.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey, just stopped by for a peek.
I don't see the Georgetown Troll.
Did his mom make him go to class?
I see zouk, hi zouk.

It was interesting to glance down.
Is he really gone, or just getting IV Ringers over in the GW ER?

Posted by: shrink2 | June 25, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Re: the failure of the tax extenders bill yesterday, here is an interesting take from Jon Walker.

He points out that Democrats could pass the tax extenders bill either by reconciliation or by changing the rules on filibuster.

So why don't they, he asks.

"The Senate Republicans’ callous behavior disgusts me. Sadly, I’m only slightly less disgusted by the Senate Democrats who let them get away with it because they don’t want to change the made-up rules of their super-fun club. What is worse: ruining the lives of millions for political gain or letting others do it because you don’t want to change the rules that give you more power due to the 60-vote threshold for cloture?

If left-wing pundits are going to express their outrage about the Republican behavior in this matter, then they also need to direct it at the Democrats for letting it happen. This is not a game. People’s livelihoods are at stake. But I guess among elected Democrats and Washington pundits, that is a distant second choice compared with protecting the “proud Senate tradition” that served for decades to stop anti-lynching laws and civil rights legislation."

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Then we agree, brig-ade. It's settled.

In order to dispel any notion that Nim is trying to fool the "conservative" voters (I'll be nice), Nim should be listed on the SC ballot as "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa," not "Nikki Haley," her fake name. And from now on, all Nim's campaign materials should refer to her as..."Nimrata Kaur Randhawa." Such a beautiful, lyrical name, don't you think?

Glad we could agree on something. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

@marie,

In a refined world, people like brigade are known as "not my cup of tea". Being well-mannered is almost a lost art.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Brigade is not unhinged he is just nasty and insulting to everyone. An equal opportunity @ss.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

"A moment of silence for 37. A moment of peace for the blog.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 9:06 PM"
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Well what do you know. Maleeva was right. The chant worked after all.
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"The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own. But as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over. Now you will find peace for eternity."
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May the fake 37, in all his madness, find peace...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

He made Brigade look reasonable.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 9:13 PM
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Actually, I'll admit I agree with you. 37th is mentally...well unstable is a kind way to say it. Brigade isn't unstable, I'll give him that.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Brigade,

I will post here as much and as long as I wish. It's you who bothers me. You are rude, crude, lewd and boorish. I ask you again, please leave me alone.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

The word back in SC is the Yahoos are just waking up to Nim's okey-doak and they aren't buying it. Nim is clearly NOT a sure thing in November.

Brig no doubt has heard the same thing, which is why he's so upset when Nim is referred to by her real name.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 9:09 PM
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I can't vote in South Carolina. I doubt that you can either. May the good people of that state elect whatever candidate they so desire.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

He made Brigade look reasonable.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

brigade,

I find you rude and boorish. Please leave me alone.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:06 PM
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Probably shouldn't be posting if you can't handle replies.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I found it funny that jindal, who had been complaining about the Feds not being big enough, not spending enough and deploying enough resources has yet to deploy the National Guard after over two months.

OOOPS He was so busy criticizing everyone and trying to look Presidential he forgot to do anything.

"Following a CBS News Investigates report that Gulf coast governors haven't been fully utilizing the 17,500 National Guard troops authorized by the federal government to help them with the oil spill, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's office offered a tart response."

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

What is your answer to Sikh community about Nim's conduct?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 8:56 PM
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I'm sure your motive is concern for the Sikh community. Noacoler says all who convert to Islam must change their names; is that where Barack Hussein Obama came from? Can't he change back? Just wondering.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

@marie,

So he's been gone all day? No signs of other monikers? They must have found some way to recognize his ip.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Exactly, noa, but it goes a bit further.

When engaging the Asian/Sikh media Nim continues to call herself "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa." When asked about the fake name (Nikki Haley), she seems to be signaling to them -- this is just an opportunistic hustle to get over in SC politics, I'm still just your Nim, not "Nikki."

The word back in SC is the Yahoos are just waking up to Nim's okey-doak and they aren't buying it. Nim is clearly NOT a sure thing in November.

Brig no doubt has heard the same thing, which is why he's so upset when Nim is referred to by her real name.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

A moment of silence for 37. A moment of peace for the blog.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

But as for "grow up," I've held back from sayign the same to you many times in response to your Pollyanna outlook on obvious trolls, hope springing eternal that they'll suddenly start playing nice. Ever seen it happen? No. Will you ever? Stopped clock. Have a good weekend.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 8:45 PM
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Hopeless crabby. A seething ball of hate.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

brigade,

I find you rude and boorish. Please leave me alone.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I don't see any signs of 37th. Is he really gone?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 8:47 PM
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He got tired of waiting for you to tell us what pro-life candidates you're supporting in the upcoming election.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

What is the status of 37th? Is he being effectively blocked from the blog?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Brig-ade:

I find the name "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa" beautiful. I hope you do, too. And like the Sikh community that Nimrata belongs to, we wonder why she chooses not to use that name -- which is her REAL name -- rather than a fake name, "Nikki Haley." Her Sikh community asks why is their Nimrata calling herself "Nikki" when she's with SC bigots, and speechifying in front of Confederate museums. What's up with that?
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What is your answer to Sikh community about Nim's conduct?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I would think Bush's taking 1/3 of his time as President off should make you at least a little bit angry about the waste of taxpayer money. Maybe though the quality of the decisions he made when he was on station and the great shape he turned the country over to Obama in were enough for you to silently forgive him.


Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 8:44 PM
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If you're expecting me to defend Bush's wild deficit spending, I'll have to disappoint you. I'm conservative no matter who's writing the checks.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Brigade,

As you know, a long unbroken list of wonderful Republican stars and Presidential hopefuls would have been hard to read. It was so long I had to double space to be truly enjoyed. (thanks for the shout out to my former muse 37) I hope you enjoyed how wonderful they all are and how I featured each one with what would make them an extra special President.

2012 USA! Get That Country Back!

Marie

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Likewise, in SC, she poses as a Bible beating Jerry Falwell-ite, yet information on the Internet suggests she is, and has always been, a practicing Sikh. The Bible belt stuff, some say, is just a pose.

All this raises a legitimate character issue about whether Nim is an opportunist and a phony.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 8:43 PM
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And I guess your mission in life is to expose her and make sure the bigots vote for the white guy.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't see any signs of 37th. Is he really gone?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 25, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Suit yourself, BB, I have solid justifications if I choose to be angry .. as it turns out you're misreading derision as anger.

But as for "grow up," I've held back from sayign the same to you many times in response to your Pollyanna outlook on obvious trolls, hope springing eternal that they'll suddenly start playing nice. Ever seen it happen? No. Will you ever? Stopped clock. Have a good weekend.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

The point (for others less electively DENSE) is that Randhawa seeks votes from bigots, not that there's anything wrong with a name change. The point BWJ is needling is that the same people who're screaming teabagger victory were screaming barack HUSSEIN HUSSEIN HUSSEIN obama not all that long ago.

EVERY Muslim convert takes a Muslim name, it'd be strange if Clay hadn't. Grow one, would you?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 8:23 PM
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And you two idiots are doing exactly the same thing you claim to despise when others do it. I'm not brand new. I suppose if someone called Obama a racial slur then you and Joe would be justified in using a similar slur against Haley.

And every Muslim convert does NOT take a Muslim name. Did Mike Tyson take a Muslim name when he converted while in the joint?
Learn before you speak. And spit one out, would you?

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Brigade,

"So Bush is the gold standard for time on the job? Gee, and I thought we were getting "change"---keep up the blame-Bush stuff and see how it sells in November. Bozo.


Before you start insulting people you need to read more carefully. I was comparing which is different than blaming.

Secondly, the reader I was responding to, like yourself, was very concerned about the time President Obama takes off when he golfs. If there was any proof it was excessive, given the challenges we face, I would get angry too.

Is there any proof?


I never said Bush was the gold standard on any performance index. But I was sure a comparison with any hard working and "thrifty with the tax payer's money" Republican President was in order. I would think Bush's taking 1/3 of his time as President off should make you at least a little bit angry about the waste of taxpayer money. Maybe though the quality of the decisions he made when he was on station and the great shape he turned the country over to Obama in were enough for you to silently forgive him.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Brig-ade: That argument doesn't work.
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Nimrata Kaur Randhawa did not change her name. In fact when engaging the sikh and Asian media, she seems to refer to herself as... "Nimrata Kaur Randhawa." It's only when trying to win the votes of Yahoos and bigots in SC that she becomes ... "Nikki Haley." Nim claims the reason she goes with the fake name in the campaign is that her real name won't fit on a yard sign -- who's she trying to fool with that?

Likewise, in SC, she poses as a Bible beating Jerry Falwell-ite, yet information on the Internet suggests she is, and has always been, a practicing Sikh. The Bible belt stuff, some say, is just a pose.

All this raises a legitimate character issue about whether Nim is an opportunist and a phony.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"@BWJ, do you really think that bigotry against dark-skinned people would carry as much career peril as dissing Matt Drudge? I do t think so."

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You're asking the right person; someone so full of self-loathing that he makes fun of other people of color who don't share his peculiar political philosophy---like ranting about their names.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

@BWJ: anyone NOT think that CC's private communications refer to "ni66ers" and "sp|cs?"

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:33 PM
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You're asking someone who hears that stuff in his sleep and spams every thread with charges of racism while he, himself, obliviously makes fun of a minority candidate's name at every opportunity. I would imagine CC's private communications are less objectionable than the posts you and Joe make right here for all to see. But then you're both a little short on class.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a libertarian, brigade, matter of fact I think libertarians should be gassed

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Bush spent more time on vacation than a retiree, but we don't hear a word about that now, nor did we hear it then.

I guess zouk the the other uh conservatives think he should be the caddy, right? Thought so.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:24 PM
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Actually, we hear a lot about it. You libs bring it up everytime someone criticizes Obama. And I'm sure you brought it up when Bush was still in office. But you can, in fact, put me down as one conservative who thinks Obama would make a better caddy than he does a president. And I doubt I'm the only one. Since you brought it up, I suspect you secretly feel the same way.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

mariewilson11 wrote,
"Gen. Stanley McChrystal gets fired in the most public way possible and you go with Petraeus?

Lets look at your reasoning:"

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I eliminated the last 81 lines of pure gibberish, much of it double-spaced. Are there actually posters here who complained about 37th that can wade through this crap?

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Way to bat your eyes, brigade, and pretend to miss the point. But then that's all you have, the turnaround shtick. You and half the sixth graders who see shrinks in the country,.

The point (for others less electively DENSE) is that Randhawa seeks votes from bigots, not that there's anything wrong with a name change. The point BWJ is needling is that the same people who're screaming teabagger victory were screaming barack HUSSEIN HUSSEIN HUSSEIN obama not all that long ago.

EVERY Muslim convert takes a Muslim name, it'd be strange if Clay hadn't. Grow one, would you?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't agree with the assessment, but appreciate the contrarian impulse. It's a risky decision for Petraeus. Akin to the Kentucky Derby winner racing the Preakness when it's not the right track.

@noa - Grow up. If you don't like the Fix, then go away. If you do, then stop using the comments section to work out your own anger management issues.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 25, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Gotta go with Mr. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa (fake name "Nikki Haley").

Mr. Nim watchin' Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa provide "personal outreach" to lobbyists (allegedly) ain't livin'. Mr. Nim's mancard is revoked until further notice.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 5:36 PM
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For someone who spends so much time whining about racism, much of it simply made up, you spend a lot of time making fun of a minority candidate's name change. You do it over and over, the broadwayjoe version of spam. I suppose you figure if Dems can get the word out to enough people, bigots might switch from someone of color to the white Dem---if only they knew? Just like in the old Jim Crow days.

You'd think a representative of a racial group that spent 400 years in bondage would show a little more class. But I guess that's too much to expect.

You must think Muhammed Ali was a real jerk for changing his name from Cassius Clay when he adopted the Muslim faith. I guess he wanted to fool all the Muslims into thinking he was the real deal, huh? I didn't think he was a jerk, but you are going out of your way, Joe, to prove that you're a jerk.

How about dealing with some issues instead of a name change. I used to like Dean Martin's songs, and it didn't bother me a bit that his name wasn't "really" Dean Martin.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

noa, point well taken. Still if those emails are there, it presents a problem if the Weigel standard applies.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

well there goes the neighborhood, now comes a firehose of sewage from brigade-zouk

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Yes, that's 487 days. And Camp David is not even where the president has spent the most time when not at the White House: Knoller reports that Mr. Bush has made 77 visits to his ranch in Crawford during his presidency, and spent all or part of 490 days there."

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 5:15 PM

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So Bush is the gold standard for time on the job? Gee, and I thought we were getting "change"---keep up the blame-Bush stuff and see how it sells in November. Bozo.

Posted by: Brigade | June 25, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

@BWJ, do you really think that bigotry against dark-skinned people would carry as much career peril as dissing Matt Drudge? I do t think so.

Surely the post has to know the slant here and approve it, surely the coddling of racists and homophobes in this blog can't have gone unnoticed, not this long. My guess is that it's known and sanctioned.

Has zouk ever gotten even a wrist slap for "nappy" and "ped?" Think he ever will?

So why would CC have to worry about the same in private?

This isn't Ben Bradlee's WaPo anymore.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

@noa 7:33pm:

You got it, pal. Seriously, I think his crowd was laughing at Dave Weigel's misfortune...at first.

But now it's sinking in with them that if the Post applies the "Dave Weigel" standard to THEM (i.e., if a writer has sent emails showing bias, he's fired), they are TOAST. They will be up all night deleting their emails and calling their email recipients to do the same, and worrying about forums that participated in. I'm sure they have some precious nicknames for our President. Fix / Chip Saltsman email exchanges should be of great interest.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

My god zouk have you got nothing else going on in your life?

Posted by: JRM2 | June 25, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

My god zouk have you got nothing else going on in your life?

Posted by: JRM2 | June 25, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Yeah how low would his approval have to be before any of those nutbags and snoozelords could have a shot?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Marie, that's BHO hole card: the fact that the GOP has gone so far right (thanks to Phalin and teabaggers) that they have no competitive candidates for 2012. Excellent list, BTW.

Had the Dems done a better job of publicizing how extreme and idiotic the baggers' positions are, see, e.g., Sue Lowden's Chicken for Checkups, the folks you listed would be even LESS competitive. This is why the anti-BHO job approval numbers Fix likes to cherry pick are totally meaningless.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

@BWJ: anyone NOT think that CC's private communications refer to "ni66ers" and "sp|cs?"

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

"In some circles, Petraeus was regarded as Republicans' strongest potential 2012 candidate against Obama. His new post effectively ends that speculation."
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What circles? Name who said it. And what's with the implication BHO picked Petraeus just to take him out of a Presidential race he was never in? This is not "news & analysis"; it's just a made up anti-BHO fake narrative.
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BTW, HuffPo has the Dave Weigel "back story" on his web page. It'll be interesting to see if the Post discloses the standard that he supposedly violated by his email comments. Once the Post says what it is, it should be fun to see that Weigel precedent applied to its other writers and bloggers. Good luck with that WashPo -- it'll be an empty building by August.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Funny we never heard about how contemptible it was to play golf when Reagan or Bush did it, now it comes up in 2/3 of the derisive posts about President Obama.

Bush spent more time on vacation than a retiree, but we don't hear a word about that now, nor did we hear it then.

I guess zouk the the other uh conservatives think he should be the caddy, right? Thought so.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Gen. Stanley McChrystal gets fired in the most public way possible and you go with Petraeus?

Lets look at your reasoning:


* Already a bonafied war hero who now has to put his sterling reputation on the line in a war that many military strategists -- including members of McChrystal's inner circle -- view as unwinnable.


That is fine if Petraeus is not a warrior and just a Pentagon hack. It is HIS strategy that is being implemented according to the book he wrote. Recall he is already overall in charge of Afghanistan.

* Petraeus moves from Tampa, Florida -- home of U.S. Central Command -- to Kabul, Afghanistan. 'Nuff said.


No doubt if he was with GE that would be good thinking. He is with a firm that destroys things and Kabul is the center of world for that kind of work.


* In some circles, Petraeus was regarded as Republicans' strongest potential 2012 candidate against Obama. His new post effectively ends that speculation.


How many people do you have on your list of fabulous Republican candidates??????

Those Dem don't know what is going to hit them in 2012.

Really Chris I can't take it!
OK how does he compare with those on your list?


Be honest or I will cry like a girl.


1) Palin and her Todd ( free First Dude giving manly orders from the WH) This hot MILF is going places!

2) Tim Pawlenty with the personality of a lively Actuary - Fix Certified!

3) Mitt Romney "Return of the Mormon Menace II" Warning "special under garments extra!"

4) Scott Brown WOW! A man A truck A win

5) Bobby Jindal: complaining like a stuck pig that big government isn't being big enough nor spending enough tax payer money. Showing a lot of leadership but confusingly humming DRILL BABY DRILL.

6) Nikki H. hint and a wink to you Chris Almost won an election already. Shout out to RNC for all the diversity = like a flood of color on a sea of white

7) Rand Paul "We have come to take country back!" Very impressive if we can find him and he lets us know how far back we have to go.

8) Sharron Angle "Tea Party's Tea Partier" Without SS and Medicare the deficit is gone - poof! What young Republican is going to complain to that? NO IRS TOO?

9)General Petraeus "The lion of Baghdad" - "Surged all the way to the WH" or "Government should be run like the Army" and I already have all the outfits at a great savings to the taxpayer.

10) Newt G. Time to re-new "The Contract with America?" of course! We've forgotten already!

11) Gov. Haley Barbour - Many say we now need a fat President- Why not give that a try?

12)Sen. John Thune. Good looking, vacuous and a Fix Favorite with that jaw.

13) Chris Cristie - He got elected once and has actually passed one budget - he needs to move up before he has to run it!

14) Mike Huckabee "The Jesus candidate"
Could be another fat President alternative the way his diet is going

15) Rick Santorum Would help with unemployment number to get him a good Washington job He was a great number three in the Senate. Wacky as so

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow lookit me, I speak with a distinctive voice, Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh. Everyone else is saying McChrystal, disgraced by being relieved of command, had the WWIW, but me, I'm es-special. Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh. Genheral PETRAEUS had the worst week 'cause now he has to relocate to Afghanistan.

Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh.

An' now he can't run for President, not that he was going to, not that there was a snowball's chance in hell it ever crossed his mind, but what does that matter? I speak with a distinctive voice, On the one hand. On the other hand.

Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh.

Meanwhile, TPaw sneezed into his elbow instead of his hand, raising speculation that he might be taking moderate stands on issues of public health. A presidential hopeful for 2012 ...

Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

bona fide. Not "bonafied".

Posted by: rlalumiere | June 25, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

"Most of the states with seriously...

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Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 5:10 PM"
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All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

squat2, none of the current stable of teabaggers such as Phalin and Racist Rand can beat BHO in 2012. In fact polls show that against BHO, Phalin would lose by 23 points and would win only six states. Sorry to break the news.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I see all the posts about Weigel have been censored. Just remember, Cillizza, nothing on the Internet ever really disappears down the memory hole. Now be a man and repost everything you censored.

Posted by: WashingtonDame | June 25, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

marie: Carlson was a prior recipient of a Fix shout out (as was Chip (Barack the Magic N-gro CD) Saltsman). It figures. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Gotta go with Mr. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa (fake name "Nikki Haley").

Mr. Nim watchin' Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa provide "personal outreach" to lobbyists (allegedly) ain't livin'. Mr. Nim's mancard is revoked until further notice.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 25, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

From the "Why are All the Biggest W@nkers in America Always Republicans? Almanac 2010 Reference Edition:

"WELL, TUCKER CARLSON IS AN INCREDIBLE @SSH@LE:

Ezra Klein on the closing of the JournoList email group: “It was ironic, in a way, that it would be the Daily Caller that published e-mails from Journolist. A few weeks ago, its editor, Tucker Carlson, asked if he could join the list. After asking other members, I said no, that the rules had worked so far to protect people, and the members weren’t comfortable changing them. He tried to change my mind, and I offered, instead, to partner with Carlson to start a bipartisan list serv. That didn’t interest him.”

Read more at Wonkette: http://wonkette.com/416305/416305

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

farmsnorton

I understand how you worry about the current President taking off so much time. Maybe he should have followed the example of the last hard working Republican who showed American the meaning of work and earning the tax payer's money.

George W. Bush spent almost a third of his Presidency at Camp David or at the Ranch. Apparently being at the WH was too much work!

Imagine where we would have been if the decider had more time at the wheel to make a few more good decisions?

"According to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, today's trip marks Mr. Bush's 149th visit to the presidential retreat. The planned three-day stay, during which the president is being joined by family and former and current aides, will bring his total time spent at Camp David to all or part of 487 days.

Yes, that's 487 days. And Camp David is not even where the president has spent the most time when not at the White House: Knoller reports that Mr. Bush has made 77 visits to his ranch in Crawford during his presidency, and spent all or part of 490 days there."

Posted by: mariewilson11 | June 25, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Most of the states with seriously contested Senate races or Democratic seats that seem almost certain to go Republican have below-national-average black percentages. Exceptions: Arkansas (where polls show Democrat Blanche Lincoln well behind), Florida, and Illinois.

Similarly, when you look at the list of target House seats very few have substantial black populations. This is partly the result of the prevailing interpretation of the Voting Rights Act — supported and encouraging by most black Democratic politicians –which requires maximization of the number of “majority-minority” districts. When you put lots of black voters in those districts, you don’t have many in adjacent districts.

All of which is to say that the state of opinion in the real political battlegrounds of 2010 is considerably more negative toward Barack Obama than top-line poll numbers suggest.
-Barone

May a fresh tide wash that oily sludge out to sea.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Wrongo Gallenod:

Poll: Afghanistan War Hurting
Obama's Support at Home
Newsweek, by Andrew Romano

The troubled war in Afghanistan is a growing political problem for President Barack Obama. According to a new Newsweek poll, the lasting impact of his decision to fire Gen. Stanley McChrystal for mouthing off about his civilian bosses in a recent Rolling Stone article -- a move most Americans support -- has been to raise doubts about the war and undermine confidence in the commander-in-chief.
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what is it with Libs and the "kill the messenger" approach. As if that is going to change the cold hard reality of utter and complete liberal failure.

Rasmussen knew this weeks ago and the echo chamber that is The Left decided that all they had to do was try to discredit the person reporting the facts.

PS - It's not working. Berry is sinking ever faster into his own fraud and incompetence. Most of us knew this before the election, but after some actual dithering and bumbling, now almost everyone knows.

Rory Reid has airbrushed his last name out of his campaign for fear of the association with his spineless father.

Pelousy has declared that losing her speaker role will end her up in jail.

about time.

that's liberal confidence for ya.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see Obama playing golf, campaigning for Boxer, having a party at the white house or going overseas. To me, this means he will do less damage to the country. You have to love James Carville, a democratic strategist on CNN, when Obama was missing in action during the first 35 days of the oil spill.

Posted by: farmsnorton | June 25, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The NBC/Wall Street Journal poll this week shows Barack Obama with a negative 45%-48% job rating. But as the Wall Street Journal story notes, Obama’s job rating among black voters is 91% positive. A lttle back of the envelope arithmetic suggests that Obama’s job rating among the 88% or 89% of non-black respondents is about 39% positive and 54% negative.That’s pretty weak — a whole lot more negative than the numbers you usually see for all voters. This is hugely relevant to the 2010 elections.

Captain Obungler denies that there are icebergs anywhere near his titanic socialist government.

full speed ahead! he cries, as he heads off to a round of golf.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the post, but I would urge The Fix to stand ready to post a retraction in a few years if indeed Petraeus pulls a miracle in Afghanistan.

In other news, I'm hearing a lot of chatter lately from fellow Democrats that they feel GOOD about the November's elections. Could the common wisdom that racist Tea Baggers are poised to take over the country be wrong?

Posted by: paul65 | June 25, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

It's "bona fide," not "bonafied," you illiterate ninnies.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 25, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Yes, bumblingberry, that excerpt did come from Newsweek. However, it should be noted that it's from a Karl Rove opinion piece, not any of the actual journalists on Newsweek's staff, and Mr. Roves choice of poll numbers is highly selective in favor of his chosen message.

Posted by: Gallenod | June 25, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Well, technically, going from CENTCOM commander to AfPak commander is a demotion for Petraeus, unless he's going to keep the CENTCOM hat on, too. If not, though, he just got demoted because his subordinate (McCrystal) screwed up.

Good call, Chris. :)

Posted by: Gallenod | June 25, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

From Newsweek:

In fact, solid majorities of Americans now disapprove of the way the president is handling almost every major challenge confronting his administration--a complete reversal from only four months ago, when he enjoyed broad public support on the issues. In February, only 41 percent frowned on Obama's economic leadership; now that number has risen to 58 percent. Then, a mere 27 percent felt negatively about the president's command in Iraq; today, 51 percent disapprove. A whopping 60 percent don't like the way Obama is grappling with the oil spill in the Gulf, and the majority of Americans are also critical of his efforts to reform the financial sector--the split there is 53 percent against, 36 percent for. Even health care--the administration's major accomplishment and a purported selling point for the fall midterm elections--isn't a plus. Overall, 43 percent approve of Obama's handling of health care, while 51 percent don't.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

with Tipper on the auction block, Prince Albert has discovered that his pants are practically on fire and that this has caused the globe to warm even further.

He is demanding a risky masseuse trading scheme be inserted into a lockbox in suite 906 under the name Mr Stone, to accomodate the extreme temperature fluctuations in his undies.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

From the Fix: "In some circles, Petraeus was regarded as Republicans' strongest potential 2012 candidate against Obama."

From the Worst Week in Washington column:

"Finally, Petraeus has been regarded in some GOP circles as the best (only?) candidate with a chance of beating Obama in 2012."

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Flesh this out a little more, Chris, or it's nonsense.

I'm pretty familiar with the major "GOP circles," and I don't know of any that have been seriously pushing Petraeus as a 2012 candidate. The overwhelming position seems to be that he could be strong candidate, but we have no idea what his position is on... well, anything. 2016? 2020? Yeah, maybe. But let's see what his positions are before we invest anything in him.

So Chris, what are these "GOP circles"? And are there any that can't fit in the backseat of a Buick?

As for the idea that Petraeus may be the "only" Republican who could beat Obama in 2012... stop. Just stop before you embarrass yourself further. The economy stinks, this has been the bloodiest month yet in Afghanistan, and oil is still leaking into the Gulf of Mexico. Not all of that is Obama's fault, but the president gets the blame. That's just how it goes.

Although there's plenty of time for Obama to turn things around, his approval numbers are in the 40's. If they were around 60, you might have a point, but unless Obama's luck changes, 2012 is going to be a tough year for him.

Posted by: Swat02 | June 25, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Just when you thought Slick Willie had a womanizing problem it has turned out that E-Gore was the bad influence that made Willie parse. E-Gore experienced global warming in his southern hemisphere and, well, you know the rest of the story.

Posted by: leapin | June 25, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"After all, he was the guy who lost his job as head of the Afghanistan war effort after making a series of impolitic comments to -- and this is the most inexplicable part of the entire story -- Rolling Stone magazine."

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Chris, please list some of the "impolitic comments" from the "series" that McChystal made "to... Rolling Stone."

That's *McChrystal*, not his aides.

The reporting on the Rolling Stone article has been atrocious.

Posted by: Swat02 | June 25, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

CBS: Republican Governor Bobby Jindal Holds Up Deployment Of National Guard To Fight Oil Spill


You know how Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal likes to blame the Federal government for the damage caused by BP's oil spill, arguing that he could have kept all the oil at bay if President Obama had only given him the resources he needed to fight it?


Well, last night CBS News tore Jindal's argument to shreds, pointing out that while President Obama has authorized up to 6,000 National Guard troops to fight the spill, Jindal has only activated 1,053 of them -- leaving more than 80% sitting idle, doing nothing to protect the state.


In light of Jindal's massive under utilization of National Guard resources, it's clear that his attacks on the Obama administration were motivated first and foremost by politics. More than anything else, Jindal wanted to take the heat off the oil industry and put it on the government.


http://www.jedreport.com/2010/06/cbs-jindal-holds-up-deployment.html

Posted by: DrainYou | June 25, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama recovery update:

EVANSVILLE, Ind. -- Hundreds of people worked their final shifts Friday at a Whirlpool Corp. refrigerator factory in southern Indiana that has been the site of protests over its closure. The Evansville plant's production line was shutting down after turning out refrigerators for 54 years, meaning the loss of some 600 jobs. About 450 other workers were laid off in March when Whirlpool ended its second production shift. The company announced last year that it would shut down the factory and move production to Mexico. Whirlpool will still have a presence in the city, with 300 employees at its refrigeration design center.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"In some circles, Petraeus was regarded as Republicans' strongest potential 2012 candidate against Obama. His new post effectively ends that speculation."

What circles? And considering that there was approximately a 0% chance that Petraeus would ever run for president, what's the point of even mentioning this?

Posted by: Blarg | June 25, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

How about we finally name Berry Obungler. He reneged on his considered (aka dithering) choice to lead us to defeat and after slandering General Betray us when he was Bush's general, now comes crawling to him to save his bacon.

his first action - eliminate the Obambi rules of engagement that say fight a war with love, not guns.

It's as if there was one aspect of American life that has not been all messed up by the liberal sheister - the military, so had had to meddle and dither to mess that up as bad as everything else - the economy, jobs, the environment, health care, energy, corruption, everything he touches while not playing golf.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 25, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

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