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By Tom Toles

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Good news to report on the comments section here. Our quality control team has upgraded the measure of last week’s comments to "HAS POSSIBILITIES." This is not, in itself, a terrifically high standard, but the previous week's rating was a solid "FLAMBOYANTLY STUPID," so we are encouraged and excited. I'll skip the back-and forth that readers had about the grammatical difference between ITS and IT'S, because I am confident the rule on that has already been worked out. If I made a mistake, it’s because I wasn't paying attention.

On the cleverness front, there was this, aimed at me:

Oh , and how about this for an improved "carbon policy"; hold your breath for about 20 minutes.... two problems solved, no carbon dioxide emissions and one less person.

which on the face of it is a pretty tired joke, but it was in response to a post I wrote on both carbon and population, and the writer tied both together in one thought, so points for that.

On the other hand there was this:

By the way, what genius or geniuses thought Al Gore would be a great spokesman for the environmental cause? He was one of the most divisive, polarizing figures from the 1990s, someone whose own personal carbon footprint probably equals 20 or so Indian citizens.

Leaving aside the last part about whether Al Gore has offset his carbon footprint in a real way, which is a legitimate question, two things. First the charge of hypocrisy is a dog that has a way of biting its handler, but it's irrelevant here anyway. Al Gore is not the climate. But the premise that Gore was “selected” as a spokesman suggests a misunderstanding of how the world works that is bafflingly hard to quantify. Gore saw the seriousness of the problem more vividly and sooner than the vast majority of Americans and bestirred himself to do something about it. The writer of the above could have done the same, but chose otherwise. And if Al Gore has no persuasion skills, I'd say he has overcome his disability to a kinda astonishing degree. --Tom Toles

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By Tom Toles  | April 12, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
Categories:  Economy and jobs, Federal government  
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The economy is not working. All you have to do is look around you. They want to keep us on government welfare & keep us on our knees until we just give up & give up to the Big Government way of spreading the wealth. "chicken little Gore" should disappear & stop accepting speaking jobs & people should stop asking him to speak because he has done nothing to help the American people, he has just got rich off of us & others in the world who kept believing his bull. I cannot believe that all of our colleges have nothing but liberals in them teaching our college students socialism, liberalism, communist, Marxist, Mao & Alinsky. Did any of you bother to read Obama's books telling that when he got to college he purposely surrounded himself with radicals, socialists, communists, Marxist & from what I understand that is the same make up of his czars & his administration. You know had a lot more people strayed away from the bias main stream media & listen to Fox a little more we may have all been better off. Now we are being told what to do. It is obvious from the videos of 2005 or 2006 of Congress & the Senate of statements made by Franks, Waters, Schumer, Dodd & so many others that everything was alright with Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. They were forced by these Congressmen & some Senators & even Bill Clinton to loan money to people with bad credit so they could buy a house they could not afford. But everyone wanted to blame Bush for the entire thing when really that was the Democrat Congress intentions. Think what you want but the Democrats were so interested in making things harder on Bush so they could not get their jobs done. Democrats have proven to be defiant & so eager to get revenge that they have helped to destroy the entire American people & the Constitution in the name of what? Pure out Right Hate & Revenge. Sorry Folks but if we had a Republican Congress & Senate we will be a lot better of with Bush now then we are with a socialist community leader who wants to destroy our country & Constitution.

Posted by: egw7777 | April 14, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

The whole "hold your breath" thing is now a Republican talking point. Cuccinelli used it in an address to the teabaggers when referring to the state's lawsuit against the EPA.

Posted by: JohninMpls | April 14, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

China like it or not has to collect more money at any time then now. The best laugh is USA keeps on rejecting the toys, shoes, handbags cosmetics, and medicines from China. The tenders are passed by the agents of the Chinese goods in USA. Then we have the trade embargo. The reasons, "The small metal balls magnets like get stuck in the throat of the child and they die. This is fine, but the prices of these goods are so attractive that China is trading men and goods with the whole world in huge amount. The Chinese are proud of their wares and are going places no one has ventured. USA owes China more in everything. When this will be paid remains to be seen. But definitely not in Obama's time. May be I said may be, Sarah Palin will with nose that fixes her spectacles will try her settle to do justice to this. Otherwise USA is stuck with the printed currency. I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA

Posted by: flymulla | April 13, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Gore also saw a market to get rich off before most people in America.

Posted by: BradG | April 13, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Of course Mr. Gore saw a problem and has worked tirelessly to fix it. But some study will show that it is not the only problem to solve and his solution may or may not work in the greater expanse of things. If we are getting warmer and if that is the only climate factor to consider - he is right. If we are getting warmer and OTHER factor s may cause an ice age, we are on the wrong track. We will want the warmer CPO2 to save us from an ice age.

Some point out that the world is more complicated than just "warmers" and "deniers." But we are totally ignored by a political way of seeing discourse and putting people in one of only two groups.

OK. The atheist is in Ireland and a terrorist says "Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

"I am an atheist."

"OK."

"Are you a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist?"

Posted by: GaryEMasters | April 13, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

We have witnessed the US inside Crime of the Century which is easy now to explain. We all know how the Mafia and the God Father worked. Well we had a Fed. God Father who blew smoke for yes as our Congress just said yes. God Father Greenspan allowed Banks loans with no interest and then worked to help Banks rob the US Treasury Blind. The plan worked well with the appointment of CEO Hank Paulson leading the rush to the finish line. Now once Greenspans hidden money is found we'll learn he was truely the God Father and the Banks were the cleaning up and got good greedy. No broken legs or threats but it was taxpayers money that was used. Now each person says he didn't know anything but they have billions to saw for their crimes. Many Law Makers got kick backs and others just were clueless and followed the orders of the Fed God Father. We now know the crimes were done from the inside of the US and by our own Government officials. Clue look at the list of retires this year by the Law Makers. Google the history of Law Makers who came in office as normal income and now are millionaires. Yes we saw the Mafia God Father, music God Father and now the Fed God Father.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | April 12, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

What is happening in the Gold market?

Do a search on Google News for

gold market manipulation and fraud

Stay out of Gold it is going to blow.

Posted by: walker1 | April 12, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Ooh, I don't like these discussion groups where the most recent posts are at the top. It's adequate for hit-and-run postings, but very difficult to maintain an actual discussion, complete with verbal sniping and witty repartee.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 12, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I think one could reasonably point out that Mr. Toles has been given some evidence for that opinion. As have the rest of us, except for Mr. Masters.

Posted by: ScienceTim | April 12, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

The Internet should be like our telephone. One should call anyone they want and say what ever they want to say - without regualtion.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | April 12, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles is 100% convinced that the economy is not working. Ever.

Never.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | April 12, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

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