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Pounding the pavement

By Tom Toles

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With friends like me

Quite the hornets nest of comments here last week. It sort of detoured into Looneytown for an overnight stay. Not an uninteresting place to visit, but I hope we don't have to live there. Among the innumerable oddities was the charge that I was a PUPPET OF THE LEFT. Not just a lackey, mind you. But a puppet, which implies a sinisterly-lit puppeteer. The right-wing writers seem to think that The Post is a locomotive of loco liberal motives, apparently unaware that the left sees it as exactly the opposite.

As for me, yes, I self-present these days as a liberal, but, as I've written before, it was the right's abandoning of anything resembling constructive argument and behavior that helped push me there. I distrust ideology. Among the conservative bones in my body: concern about responsible budgeting, family values (for EVERYBODY, including gay people), personal accountability (all the way up to the CEO's office) and conservation of the environment. In one way or another, conservatives have abdicated responsibility on ALL of these over the last thirty years, which is a lot of abdicating. But I'm always open to the conversation, just like... here we go... Obama. MY PUPPETEER!.

I don't know if the hornets will swarm here today. Maybe someday it will be HONEYBEES! --Tom Toles

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By Tom Toles  | July 26, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
Categories:  Economy and jobs  
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Thanks, Gazizza, for the compliment. And how you've grown so quickly in your perceptions, particularly in waste matters. But you have also perceived that I am a Christian and a Republican. That took real insight.

Posted by: quiensabe | July 26, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Dear Gazizza, is your list of school yard names in front of you? Or are they all memorized? First rule of the Left, call names.

Posted by: bobbo2 | July 26, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"diversity crowd" lol - does that mean you hate diversity? You're not part of the "diversity crowd" so you only love white christian republicans? Awesome.

See, diversity is a separate issue from whether or not Fox news is a bunch of tedious lying cretinous warmongering sedition-dreamers.

Oh, and chemosabe? quensabe? whatever your little name is?

If i used 'shoo' and 'fetid', it's because I basically could smell the bullsh*t you were spewing from all the way over here.

Now run along like a good Republican't and go back to dreaming of back when you could oppress women and blacks.

Posted by: Gazizza | July 26, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and less I be remiss, my last post should have been “Dear Gazizza.”

Posted by: quiensabe | July 26, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey they finally fixed the download of readers comments in the Opinion section. Everybody go over and let loose on Dionne. What he really wants to do is ban Fox News. He just won't admit it. Isn't it funny how the diversity crowd doesn't want things too diverse when it comes to news?

Posted by: bobbo2 | July 26, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

My opinions may not matter but my keen sense of smell does. As I said you are obviously a superior life form since your Freudian slip (you used fetid and “Shoo,” as in “fly,” in the same paragraph) obviously alluding to a source, a pile of which, one can only imagine.

Posted by: quiensabe | July 26, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Dear briant1013, on the contrary, I find my intelligence insulted by CNN, MSNBC, etc. They omit news that does not fit their agenda. They flat out lie about things such as the Arizona law concerning illegal immigration. Continue watching CNN briant1013. You and the other five or ten people who continue to watch it have it all to yourselves. I guess the smug comment applies to some viewers also.

Posted by: bobbo2 | July 26, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

quiensabe, you're confusing development with evolution. Probably that's caused by your being a know-nothing creationist who can't understand simple scientific concepts due to your head being filled with a gauze of superstition.

Is a fertilized egg a chicken? Is an unfertilized egg a chicken?

Conflating abortion rights with "not having family values" is essentially aligning yourself with the tyrants of the middle east who, like their southern baptist redneck Murrican pals, claim that women are chattle.

Your opinions don't matter, because you are incapable of viewing the rights of living human beings as more important than your fetish for imaginary baby souls. You fail as an American and, furthermore, as a believer in 'family values'. Family values doesn't mean slavery.

Anyway kid, go sign off and listen to Rush and that fetid loon Glenn Beck. Shoo.

Posted by: Gazizza | July 26, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Well, Gazizza, there are 22,000 results from googling gazizza, while neocon filth drags up 289,000. Therefore you are obviously a higher life form than I am.

Since I evolved from a blob of cells, you must have evolved from some other source. One can only imagine what that source is

Posted by: quiensabe | July 26, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The economy was losing 500,000 jobs per month in 2008. Now it's at least stabilized.

U.S. GDP grew in each of the last 3 quarters, jobs are always lagging the numbers recovery in each recession
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Balkingpoints / www

Posted by: RField7 | July 26, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Tom,

Don't bother trying to point out such things as;
1. Obama's healthcare plan is just like that proposed by Gerald Ford as house leader, Richard Nixon, or passed by Mitt Romney.
2. Being the party of 'no' is NOT the same as governing.
3. The wars in the middle east have failed. We just won't admit it yet. But that doesn't change reality.
4. etc, etc, etc.

It's just a waste of time. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. And you can't have a discussion with people who are stubborn, willfully ignorant and biased.

All you can do is laugh at them and make fun of them! So keep up the great cartoons!

Posted by: BattleOffSamar | July 26, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

TT fails miserably when it comes to giving credit where credit’s due; and in this instance he digs in his heels and claims that conservatives have “abdicated responsibility” for certain issues he sees as critical to the planet, culture, our children’s futures, and the like. I for one have done some serious research concerning the contribution that 20th Century Conservatism has brought to the health and well-being of our nation. Oh, I know the liberals who saddle up to TT like he’s the “Beltway Messiah” will counter with stuff like Social Security – all of which were designed, heavily promoted and legislated by liberals. Let’s let them blow off some of their harmless steam and have their way with their so-called “facts.” Conservatives, after all, have their own proud list of 20th Century social legislation starting with (A) The Eighteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America (i.e., Prohibition… of Liquor); (B). Somehow the rest of their list has gone missing, no doubt sabotaged by that liberal media. I’m sure it will show up – eventually.

Posted by: dudeupnorth | July 26, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

You go, Tom. If the right wing wack jobs don't like your cartoons they can stay on the WaTimes site or just listen to Limbaugh and Faux "news" all day. We have painfully few commentators who call these clowns out, so keep it up. We saw the disaster visited on our country by eight years of Dubya coupled with six years of republicans running Congress and we don't want that back. To the point of another poster however, there are plenty of "liberals" who are not happy with Barack's performance on Afghanistan to name one, nor his constant pandering to the right. They won't do anything to help him clean up their mess, so he ought to ignore them.

Posted by: Pearl77 | July 26, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles,

Please stop refering to yourself as a liberal. If you were truely in favor of liberalization you'd be criticizing the Democrats as much if not more than you do the Republicans. Supporting the Democrats simply because the Republicans don't have reasonable answers is idiocy when the Democrats are also lacking any credible solutions either.

Posted by: BradG | July 26, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

briant1013 said "If you feel intellectually threatened by the evening news, CNN, and newspapers (maybe they are elitist because they require being literate?), you can always find a home at Fox News."
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Unfortunately for you, briant, regular polls are done which measure audience knowledge by news source. The least knowledgeable audience by far is CBS News. And unfortunately for the Democrats, their main supporters by demographics (the young, the Female, the non-white) all test out below average. Sure, there are some smart Democrats. But on average, Dems test out below both Republicans and independents.

Posted by: ThisIsReality | July 26, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

The only part funny about your image and rant is that you call yourself reasonable and then demonize the other side of politics. Yes you sound soooo much more reasonable than the guy calling you a shill.

Posted by: flonzy1 | July 26, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone who has chosen to not protect the rights of the unborn has abdicated family values. You may not be Obama's puppeteer but you should take care when when saying others have abdicated when by trumpeting the liberal cause, which you do, you have done just that. '

I'm sorry, but I support the rights of a raped woman more than the 'rights' of a week old blob of cells. But 'people' like you prefer to keep women as slaves, don'tcha?

You, neocon filth, are not the arbiter of family values.

Posted by: Gazizza | July 26, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"You liberals are so in love with the illegal immigrants who are sneaking into the country and stealing jobs and calling us all racist if we object. " -
dudefromthebronx

I just read in the paper today (which one was that?) that teh Obama administration has deported more than 10% illegal immigrants than the Bush administration. What does that say?

PS to bobbo2: Fox doesn't deny that they have a "Conservative bias", but they don't admit it either. In fact, they ca,im to be "Fiar and Balanced"

PS to ThisIsReality - I agree that personal responsibility should absolutely apply to our politicians (if not start with them). There are questionable activities on both sides of the aisle. I say "Ban the Lobbyists" unitl we each have our own.

Posted by: Rudesan | July 26, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

bobbo2 - "Because many Americans are tired of the smug, elitist, smarter than you are attitude presented by them (mainstream media..."
I agree. If you feel intellectually threatened by the evening news, CNN, and newspapers (maybe they are elitist because they require being literate?), you can always find a home at Fox News.

Posted by: briant1013 | July 26, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"Among the conservative bones in my body: concern about responsible budgeting, family values (for EVERYBODY, including gay people), personal accountability (all the way up to the CEO's office) and conservation of the environment."

Tom, this will sound odd, but we share the same bones. I've had conservative friends try to recruit me to the GOP [funny thing all of them have now abandoned the GOP] and I always told them that if the Republicans actually stood for fiscal conservativism except in a time of crisis like we are in now, and keeping government out of our private lives and involved in matters of the public arena - and remember the majority of businesses are publically offered on the Stock Exchange which makes them fair game, then I would think about voting for the GOP. But until the Inferno freezes over, not a chance.

Posted by: dre7861 | July 26, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Bravo ThisIsReality, Bravo. Frank and Dodd get a free pass from the Left. Remember, everything is George Bush's fault, everything.

Posted by: bobbo2 | July 26, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

"responsible budgeting, family values, personal accountability and conservation"

Sorry, that makes you a liberal.

To be a conservative, you have to think Sarah Palin is Baby Jesus and the New Black Panthers are beaming thoughts into your head.

Oh, and you have to be on Social Security and Medicare while screaming about socialism.

Posted by: ottoparts | July 26, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse


I look forward to Mr. Toles' commentaries, but even he honors the Left-Right frame.

Tom, step outside the box.

Posted by: HumanistPatriot | July 26, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Things will be so much better when both true conservatives and true liberals are able to evict the extremists squatting on their parties like guests invited for the weekend to the cottage who never go home.

Posted by: CynicalC | July 26, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Personal accountability all the way up to the CEO's office? How about personal accountability all the way up to the politicians office? If liberals tell the truth about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and the Dem politicians in power who brought on the financial crisis, then they might get some respect. No CEO in America has done the damage that Chris Dodd (D-CT) and Barney Frank (D-MA) have done. Toles is for accountability only in very limited aspects.

Posted by: ThisIsReality | July 26, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Puppet Mr. Toles? No. One of the many Liberal voices of the Washington Post? Of course. Milbank, Dionne, Robinson, Klein, vanden Huevel, Cohen, Telnaes, all spout the Liberal line everyday. The Washington Post has never backed anyone but a Democrat for President in my lifetime. Mr. Dionne today vented his spleen over Fox News. Fox is "right wing propaganda" he says. The Left wing media no longer controls news coverage. It is not up to them anymore what news I learn about. Lately the "mainstream news media" has had to cover stories that they otherwise would ignore. Good. The Ombudsman blames staff shortages for lack of coverage, laughable. Why is the "mainstream news media" suffering everywhere in ratings and circulation? Because many Americans are tired of the smug, elitist, smarter than you are attitude presented by them, and the failure to cover stories that don't fit the agenda. Get out of the Salon and give us the news, accurately, honestly, and without the slant. But if you have to slant at least admit it. Fox has never denied that they have a Conservative bias. Why can't MSNBC and the rest admit that they have a Liberal bias?

Posted by: bobbo2 | July 26, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

It says a lot about the current extreme right when Barry Goldwater's stances on abortion and gay rights disqualify him as a modern "true conservative".

Posted by: evolvingseeker | July 26, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Your blog is outstanding - even when I don't agree. Today you describe my liberal leaninsg exactly. Keep up the courage for all of us without you skills who don't have a public voice.
Janet

Posted by: jrsh | July 26, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles. You needn't defend your views to anyone. One thing the Right Wing can't stand is criticism from anyone. Nothing is ever their fault. They accept no blame and want no reponsibility. They are perfectly happy criticizing everyone who doesn't agree with them, and I'm glad they are around because they and their political views provide me with constant entertainment. I am perpetually entertained by their ignorance and self-professed infalability. Keep it up.

Posted by: bavery1 | July 26, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Tom, we're all puppets on strings of reality. I hope my puppetier is one with
unconditional positive regard for all life
on Earth, & elements that sustains it.

Posted by: coyotegordy | July 26, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Nailed.
100 percent abdication of morality except for words has been the right's legacy. The "right" has become a puppet of the wealthy, greedy, and pseudo-Christians.

Posted by: pjohn2 | July 26, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Hi Puppet --

Don't forget that most people enjoy your cartoons but don't have time to rant, for or against. Cyberspace commentary is far from representative. Keep up your responsible conserving; some day, perhaps, the self-proclaimed conservatives will see the errors of their ways. Yeah, right!

Pinocchio

Posted by: gr321 | July 26, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Toles...interesting comment.
"toon" #1 is a bit disturbing...way to start my day.
as for the sketch...just like with horses, if you demonstrate control in the saddle and your horse trusts you, you needn't wear spurs, not even 'rubber' ones.

Posted by: bertzel | July 26, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles, we've always known that conservatives were jerks, but you liberals aren't getting any high marks either. You liberals are so in love with the illegal immigrants who are sneaking into the country and stealing jobs and calling us all racist if we object. Conservatives have always been insensitive to our plight, but what the hell is YOUR problem?!

Posted by: dudefromthebronx | July 26, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Scold?

Not me. It is difficult to represent ideas in pictures. We should give Mr. Toles some slack. But if he continues to forget that employment is a lagging indicator - it is our duty to remind him.

Paying attention is his job.

Posted by: gary4books | July 26, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Keep up the good work Tom

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Keep up the good work Tom. Your last few political cartoons have been outstanding. The global warming, gotcha, and now this soft landing cartoon. Ouch!

Posted by: Jeff-for-progress | July 26, 2010 5:28 AM | Report abuse

You'll get used to all the outrageous things flung at you eventually Mr. Toles. Don't let it bother you too much at least until next yr after the election. I really don't even refer to them as conservatives any longer because their behavior has changed so drastically over the yrs. I don't think conservative fits any longer. I simply refer to them as the Rightwing. Seems more appropriate right now.

Posted by: carolerae48 | July 26, 2010 5:05 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who has chosen to not protect the rights of the unborn has abdicated family values. You may not be Obama's puppeteer but you should take care when when saying others have abdicated when by trumpeting the liberal cause, which you do, you have done just that.


Posted by: quiensabe

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Don't forget that the Republicans did NOTHING when they had control of the Congress, the Senate, and the White House.

If men were able to get pregnant, abortion wouldn't even be on the table. It would be LEGAL.

Education begins at home. One groups' definition of "morality" should NEVER be pushed on others. You think that abortion should be illegal, yet you don't want to pay extra taxes to support unwed mothers.
The thought that making abortion illegal will promote chastity is a fantasy.

Freedom in this country is a joke. There are other countries that have more freedoms than we do.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | July 26, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who has chosen to not protect the rights of the unborn has abdicated family values. You may not be Obama's puppeteer but you should take care when when saying others have abdicated when by trumpeting the liberal cause, which you do, you have done just that.

Posted by: quiensabe | July 25, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

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