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By Tom Toles

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The monkey chased the weasel

One more time around the cobbler's bench on Bush-Gore 2000! I brought it up earlier this week simply to make a point about the implacable GOP need to be in power, other considerations being so much effluvia. But it set off such a lively flurry of comments that I feel like stretching my legs and taking another lap with the crazed weasels.

I will digest it down to a few fundamentals. Gore won the popular vote, lost the election because of the electoral college and/or the Supreme Court and was more or less gracious about it, considering. The GOP demonstrated a ruthlessness for the outcome they demanded that was remarkable and unmatched, a ruthlessness that carries over to this day. But after the improvisational court ruling, while there were some hard feelings, the result was accepted as final and the country moved on. On to eight years of torture, for our foes and ourselves alike, but, whatever, we moved on.

Contrast that with the flip side today. An astonishing number of Republicans claim to believe that Obama is not a U.S. citizen, and, therefore, is not a real president. This is mermaid and Minotaur-level fantasy, bold even by GOP standards, so I can only assume that it is a hallucinatory projection based on guilty feelings about 2000. --Tom Toles

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By Tom Toles  | August 12, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
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i am so glad to see that you have caught onto the nature of republicanism today. it is steeped in projection. everything they complain about is something they themselves advocate. i call them
the Party of Projection. they see themselves everywhere and it is damned frightening to them!

Posted by: cassanneydra | August 12, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Dude, the election was 10 years ago. You gotta let it go...

Posted by: sold2u | August 12, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Dear luridone, Acorn has been charged in 11 States with some form of voter registration fraud since 2004. Here are a few of the convictions. Milwaukee, Wisconsin: A Ms. Lewis pled guilty to voter registration fraud to "make her quota". West Reading, Pennsylvania: An Acorn employee was sentenced to 23 months for identity theft and tampering with records. In Texas, Acorn submitted a voter registration form of a man named David Young. David Young informed officials that it was not his signature on the form and that his Social Security number and date of birth were wrong. More than 19 charges including indictments, guilty pleas, and convictions. No Acorn is as pure as the driven snow.

Posted by: bobbo2 | August 12, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Dear luridone, Nixon carried 92 out of 101 Counties in Illinois. Kennedy won Illinois by 9,000 votes. Mayor Daley held back the results from Cook County until the next day. The Kennedy win in Chicago was by 450,000 votes, no fraud there. In Fannin County, Texas there were 4,895 registered voters. Somehow though 6,138 votes were cast. Seventy five percent went to Kennedy. No fraud there. One Precinct in Angelina County, Texas 86 people voted but the final tally was 147 for Kennedy, 24 for Nixon. Nope, no fraud. In the 2000 election in Florida there were votes cast by non-citizen Haitian immigrants. There were votes cast by over 1,400 convicted felons. Gore's lawyers tried to block the counting of military overseas absentee ballots. Some were even found later uncounted. Dead people don't vote? They sure do in Illinois. 56 people in Chicago who voted all had the same address. Acorn not involved in voter fraud? Why don't you look up how many lawsuits they have had and how many they have been convicted of? Next.

Posted by: bobbo2 | August 12, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

bobbo2 conveniently ignores the equally palpable election fraud conducted by Republicans in southern Illinois in 1960. The only difference between the Daley machine in Chicago and the GOP hacks in south Illinois was that Daley did it better.

As for alleged Democratic cheating in Florida in 2000, that's pure, fabricated BS. As for ACORN, voter registration fraud lead to NO election fraud - dead and fabricated voters don't vote.

Posted by: luridone | August 12, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

No President's citizenship should ever be in doubt. For some reason there are a lot of people who seem to question it. He who seeks the truth should never be chastised for it. No matter how unbelievable or unimaginable.

Posted by: JONAHandtheFISH | August 12, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"It was on the internet, and is therefore true." That's a good one. Hahahahaha...

Posted by: jonroesler | August 12, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

In the 1960 Presidential election President Kennedy won Texas and Illinois through fraud. The facts of the matter are easily found if you do research on the Internet. Nixon refused to contest the election because he did not want to put the Country through such an ordeal. The facts are there and he had every right to contest the results. The Chicago Tribune stated that "the election of November 8 was characterized by such gross and palpable fraud as to justify the conclusion that Nixon was deprived of victory." This statement was quoted later in the Washington Post. Mayor Daley of Chicago handed Illinois to President Kennedy. The facts of the Texas fraud are also there for anyone to see on the Internet. In the 2000 election the fraud in Florida by the Democrats is also there to see if you bother to look. Gore magnanimous? Are you serious? How can one be magnaninous when they cheat? The Democrats cheat to win elections. They pay voters, they conspire with corrupt organizations such as Acorn to register voters that are dead, felons, you name it. One of the reasons that Gore did not contest the election could be that he didn't want the Democrat's little tricks to get in the news. Fraud is not funny. It undermines our voting process. Democrats and voter fraud are well known. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away. Republicans feel entitled to power? The Democrats will hold on to it by any means possible and that means fraud. Mexico may be corrupt but they do something that I think we should do. A voter has an ID card with a thumbprint and a picture. I am all for it. For every voter in this Country. Within the next decade we should put in place a system that prevents the casting of one single fraudulent vote in any election. Anyone have a problem with that? Mr. Toles you use the term "ruthless". What do you call voter fraud? In the next election I would like Jimmy Carter to oversee the election results in Illinois. It's election practices are no more honest than those in Venezuela.

Posted by: bobbo2 | August 12, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Funny. Florida still hasn't gotten their election act together.

I prefer our ballot system here in Barrington, NH. You get a sheet of paper (or several), a magic marker, and blacken in the circles corresponding to your selections. They feed it into the reader, and the sheet goes into storage.

Point is, it's either marked clearly, or it's not counted. There's no possibility of mechanically changing the selection by accidental punching out of a "hanging chad".

Posted by: mhoust | August 12, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse


You used only 229 words including the title to your rant today which your brevity is one of the reasons I continue to check your work out each day. (Can't remember the other reasons, but I do every day...Don't get the big head now.)

Somebody named EgoNemo used over 400 words to respond. Heck, I may even agree with what he said but I didn't read it. Isn't there a limit?


Posted by: quiensabe | August 12, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Only an inveterate leftist ideologue would describe an affinity for the Constitution as ruthlessness and the Supreme Court as improvisational. Contrary to your empty claim, it's obvious you haven't moved on in your hatred for those more enlightened than yourself. Tiny minds for tiny people.

Posted by: jpost1 | August 12, 2010 7:21 AM
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Affinity for the Constitution? That's rich, and also completely wrong. And the Supreme Court was at its improvisational best in Gore v. Bush - read the opinion (which I have done) and try to describe the Constitutional principle on which it's based - you can't, because there is no Constitutional principle at all. It was the epitome of results-oriented judging.

When you talk of tiny minds, you're clearly talking about yourself.

Posted by: luridone | August 12, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I think, unfortunately, some people just can't accept America not being the country they think it is, period.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | August 12, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles is a journalist and artist. It is the inalienable right of such persons to take two seemingly disparate things and try to fit them together.
Such is the very origin of creativity and invention.

Now, Mr. Toles' latest creation -- that 'guilt' or something on the part of 'the GOP' following the 2000 election crisis today manifests itself as derangement known as 'birthers,' 'truthers,' and 'teabagging' -- doesn't fit perfectly.

But it is an intriguing idea.

It is especially so, in the vehemence in which some would try to disprove it, or at least show how Tab A is not fitting into Slot B.

But that is even more interesting -- Toles' entire premise is that 'the GOP' (whatever and whoever that truly is doesn't fit with the rest of its parts.

The utter hoax of the claim that the President of the United States of America was not duly elected or is not a citizen of this nation doesn't fit with the history of the Grand Old Party.

And 'birthering' is just one example of a long chain of factlessness that has a home in some warren of the GOP wilderness.

So, critics of Mr. Toles charge him with what he charges 'the GOP' -- of mashing together parts that do not fit but saying they do anyway -- is deliciously ironic.

The more Mr. Tole's thesis is denied, the more it is proved true. The denial of Mr. Tole's theory is it's proof.

'Birthers' don't fit the GOP's traditions of truth-telling, common sense and respect for facts.

And when things don't fit, yet people convince themselves they do, it is completely logical to seek a psychological cause.

Mr. Tole's is testing an idea -- that it has to do with the an event in 2000 in which allegedly intelligent people jammed a square peg into a round hole and declared that he had won the election.

To accept that outcome, may, as Mr. Tole's posits in words more succinct than mine, led to an ability to swallow even greater self-delusions.

'Birthers' are deluded. The facts are not with them. Yet, they continue to ride their hobby horses.

All Toles is saying is perhaps they jumped on that hobby horse because they had worn out their 2000 election version, or, more precisely, it didn't attract them anymore, most everyone else having accepting the 2000 fraud.

So keep on denying Tole's logic, and keep proving his point.

Perhaps, in the Alice in Wonderland world our politics and discourse has become, critics of Toles might actually disprove him by agreeing with him.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | August 12, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Tom, you really need to watch the psycho-babble. I guess you and Gore could be padded cell mates. I'm sure it will be green!

Posted by: ghipp | August 12, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Had Gore won his home state, there would have never been any problem with Florida. Just a delay in the count.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | August 12, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Gore was good in the Florida recount. But he would have seemed much better had he wanted to recount all the votes and not just the Democratic strongholds and if he had accepted all the military votes.

That made him seem very parisian.

Or just like the Republicans. Tweedley dum and Tweedley dee.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | August 12, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Only an inveterate leftist ideologue would describe an affinity for the Constitution as ruthlessness and the Supreme Court as improvisational. Contrary to your empty claim, it's obvious you haven't moved on in your hatred for those more enlightened than yourself. Tiny minds for tiny people.

Posted by: jpost1 | August 12, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

If response is your desire, a popular vote can be gained in many ways; multiple votes a different precincts, and even some folks claiming the 'ballot' was confusing and desiring to 'revote'. Sometimes in Illinois, they just count head stones, its' faster then even the new computers.
As far as 'redistribution' who was running budget approval during the last years of Bushdom? Military budget cuts? Tough to come up with justification until we get out of two wars that don't seem to have any real purpose or reason anymore; whose looking for O'sama and with which false allie might he be living with? All original purpose has turned into a quasi nation building money pit.
Still look forward to left handed cartoons; I have to laugh at it, since I can't change it for a few more months.

Posted by: hbeavers | August 12, 2010 5:50 AM | Report abuse

As for the comments thus far...lol...most likely will be the same reaction tomorrow.

Toles....that outtake sketch....just looks wrong bud...

Posted by: bertzel | August 11, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh thanks for the help. So you mean if I paid $250 a month in federal taxes last year under dubya's tax cuts I will still pay the same in 2011 under the democrats even if I am not wealthy? The evacuation from earth is still imminent so wait for your call. Because when the earth is on fire from manmade global warming who really cares about taxes.

Posted by: bignoisylawnmower | August 11, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Fear not, noisy. Liberals believe in healthcare for all. Even you. And, I know it's an obvious point, but all governments, even republican governments, engage in wealth redistribution.

Taxing and spending is the definition of wealth redistribution. So, you get a cookie for being right about that. The differences, however, are not subtle. Under your pseudo-hero, dubya, our nation experienced the greatest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthiest 2% that has ever occurred. Ever. So, unless you earn more than $250,000 per year, money was taken from you and your family and given to the wealthiest. Google it sometime. I dare you.

Posted by: Kevin71707 | August 11, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Recovery? The earth is imploding from manmade global warming and the planet is doomed and you do a cartoon about the US economic not happening recovery? Escape from the planet is in progress now. Liberals go first. Pack light and wait for the call to move to the earth evacuation sites located near Harvard on the east coast and Berkley on the left coast. Once you get the call don't worry about maxing out your charge cards. For those liberals who can't make the evacuation from earth no worries you can still enjoy your free health care and wealth redistribution on this rock as we are all looking back at you.

Posted by: bignoisylawnmower | August 11, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Heh. I had to read today's cartoon a few times, because the first time I read it I thought it said "Next, I think we'll remove the water from the sparkling water."

I think it was funnier the way I misread it, as a criticism of the impossibility of most attempted solutions. Sorry, Mr. Toles.

Posted by: whiteflame128 | August 11, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

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