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Posted at 12:00 AM ET, 11/24/2010

Loud and clear

By Tom Toles

Turkey trot

Don't ask me to know what I'm talking about here. Or anywhere, but especially here. I don't watch TV, and I have never seen Dancing with the Stars, and if you were a logic major you would have known the latter half of that by the former. And I have read as little about Bristol as possible, yet still the Palins intrude. I wrote this before the winner was announced, but if it's Wednesday as you're reading this, the palpitations are past and you know the winner!

The consensus seems to be that Bristol was an inferior performer but her fans kept voting for her anyway. Hi, Mom! The Palin paratroopers didn't "care" about "qualifications," because they wanted to send a "message." The message? That they don't care about qualifications! And the people who spend night and day fretting that Democrats might be engaged in voter fraud apparently saw nothing wrong with voting for Bristol until their fingers bled.

No, actually, they DO care about qualifications. Qualifications are now disqualifying. Mother and child are popular PRECISELY BECAUSE they are underqualified. Because the new culture war is no longer against the rich, but against "elites" and knowledge and reality. Expect the next wave in education reform to be saving money by doing away with schools altogether. You don't need a fancy education to be on TV! --Tom Toles


By Tom Toles  | November 24, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
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Sounds a LOT like what N. Korea has done for decades.
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Yep, what Fox did during the Bush/Cheney administration is exactly like what is being done in North Korea. It is classic keep the citizens in the dark and lie to them.
Extreme left (Communism) and extreme right (conservatism) are both sociopathic dictatorships.
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Accidental random chance is no longer an option.
We are fast become an out of control Idiocracy.
Christ's main theme was humanitarian. He came into the world not to condemn the world but that it might be saved.
Those who are malicious and destroy the earth will not be saved.

Posted by: OchamsRazor | November 25, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I am thinking no one commenting here ever watched dancing with stars 2010 edition.

Posted by: dalyplanet | November 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh hell, and I was waiting for somebody who actually watched what must have been a life-changing experience of a show to respond with, "NONSENSE! Bristol Palin is an EXCELLENT dancer! A true STAR!"

Such a star that, one wonders if she was dancing alone, or perhaps had a partner to help propel her to such fame... Tom?!?

Posted by: jonroesler | November 24, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

To whom were you referring?

Posted by: spamsux1 | November 24, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

You do seem to get under the skin of these "Tea Party" folks, they bristle every time they read something they don't like. Keep it up sir.

Posted by: beedlejpott | November 24, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the correction wireman65.
I will rephrase.
Fear not, Mr. Toles. You are in the company of such greats as our current president who opined, also without knowing all the facts, that Cambridge, Mass Police acted stupidly.

Posted by: spamsux1 | November 24, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Fear not, Mr. Toles. You are in the company of such greats as our current president who opined, also without knowing all the facts, that D.C. police acted stupidly.

I think you meant the Cambridge, Mass Police but why let facts muddy the waters. Didn't mean to be so elitist.

Posted by: wireman65 | November 24, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles says: "Don't ask me to know what I'm talking about here. Or anywhere, but especially here." He then goes on to opine about something he admittedly knows little about.

Fear not, Mr. Toles. You are in the company of such greats as our current president who opined, also without knowing all the facts, that D.C. police acted stupidly.

Maybe you are just angling for a "beer summit" with the Palins?

Posted by: spamsux1 | November 24, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Reading these comments, I think Tom Toles should just start publishing cartoons about random subjects pulled from a hat, then sit back and see how the commenters can make it all about liberals and conservatives.

I mean, give me an effing break. You know what North Korea says about liberals? NOTHING. You know what it says about conservatives? JACK SQUAT. If you drew up a list of the 10 most important issues implicated by North Korea's artillery barrage, "American partisan political bickering" would be number 420.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Posted by: simpleton1 | November 24, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

The Right of Re-dress is not applicable in monarchial rule.

With regards to Maryland Law, Extortion is government policy.
Write the check?

Posted by: backspace1 | November 24, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Who is way off? Do you attempt to claim that the "beloved leader" is not a dictator? Kim Jong is the dictator of N. Korea. The only thing communist about N. Korea is the name. The people of that country enjoy no self determination, they are bombarded with propoganda day and night. Its almost as if the only news they can get comes from Fox news, not much truth from either one.

Posted by: dennis_donaghey | November 24, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

"Because the new culture war is no longer against the rich, but against "elites" and knowledge and reality" ... Maybe if Obama injected a few non-elite phrases like "right on", or "get down", or maybe even "you betcha", the fans of DWTS and all the idiot reality shows might not be out to lynch him.

Posted by: PlumHunter | November 24, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse


Boy are you way off. It is not fascism, but communism that is the form of gov't in N. Korea. Communism is the culmination of all that Liberals stand for. Per Tom's own screed of a couple of days ago, true liberals do not believe in private ownership of property (one of the cornerstones of communism and was essentially espoused by Tom in his column when he states that people should live in densely packed cities), liberals believe in redistributing wealth (another cornerstone of communism), liberals believe in managing as much of the economy as it can, liberals like to control the media (which is why Fox New upsets them so much), etc.

Sounds a LOT like what N. Korea has done for decades.

Posted by: ATrueChristian | November 24, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Jornolibist is confused: fascism is not liberal, it is conservative, you know like "divine right of kings". This country was founded by liberals. To suggest otherwise is to live in a fantasy world.

The statement "all men are created equal" was the most liberal statement about man ever uttered. The powers that be were furious about it and went to war to try to prevent self determination. There is nothing conservative about the founding of this country or the bill of rights. These were liberal documents, written by liberal men.

Posted by: dennis_donaghey | November 24, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

North Korea is a great example of where rampant unchecked liberalism leads and they offer free nationalized healthcare too.

Posted by: jornolibist | November 24, 2010 4:57 AM | Report abuse

I was speaking to Mr Toles, although obviously I was also throwing it out there for anyone to read.

It's people trying to get attention and the media is feeding it. I honestly don't think most people care about the sanctity of DWTS voting.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | November 23, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Maybe President Obama will go on the show in 2013.

Posted by: billybeer6 | November 23, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

To whom do you speak jwalkr?

Posted by: bertzel | November 23, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

The producers of the show figured she'd attract attention and controversy and were right, and some conservative blogger thought he could get some free publicity by essentially encouraging people to manipulate an Internet poll (which is really not that big a feat) and taking credit for people who thought of it all on their own--not to mention those that legitimately DO just like Sarah and/or Bristol Palin and wanted to vote for her, and he did, then he threw in the whole "It's to get Democrats back for voter fraud" stuff just to try to play annoy-the-liberals-with-wild-false-accusations like the boys in the big leagues do all the time for even more attention, and mission accomplished.

Don't feed it. It's completely ridiculous and no one with any sense is taking it at all seriously.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | November 23, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles,

You are on point with your comic about the Koreans. Loony as loony gets, though the two onlookers have got to be "momma grizzlies". As for Bristol Palin, bah she should not have been on DWTS at all. DWTS is for stars and she is not a "star", and the people voting for Bristol are tools. They would not be caught watching DWTS alive if Bristol was not on it (coz we all know that ball room dancing is too cultural for them), yet they linger propelling a very mediocre dancer to places that normally she would not have ventured to. These same people in a mad masochistic moment earlier this month voted the Republicans in, once again propelling mediocrity in places where it does not belong.

Posted by: bushidollar | November 23, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

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