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By Tom Toles

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The morning after

Well, you have spoken, and the chattering classes are now busy explaining to you what it was you said. I guess I am part of the chattering class, but only insofar as my teeth are chattering in trepidation. But we all are the chattering class now, as you can go chatter below, in the comments section, like a set of those novelty wind-up false teeth that clatter around on a tabletop.

I don't think I've ever read or heard a post-election analysis that captured what I was intending to convey with my vote, so I won't try to harangue you with any of that. I'll just return to my fears, with which I am amorously familiar. I'll mention three. You may find them familiar, too!

1. Climate change. It appears the chances of addressing this have been set back even further than they were, due to a staggeringly successful campaign of Machiavellian lies. The votes are in, but unfortunately the climate doesn't work by poll, or even election. What we are doing is I think the gravest folly of my lifetime, and possibly in all of human history.

2. Increasing wealth divergence. It really is different now. But the same kind of sleight-of-hand is occurring here as with the climate debate. If you don't see it, it can't hurt you. But it can, and will. (Again).

3. Shifting the country onto a productive track for this century. We seem to have lost the capacity to discuss the future sanely. And no, I DON'T think Democrats have all the answers here. It could be a subject for a productive meeting of the minds! Will it happen? No, I am afraid. --Tom Toles

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By Tom Toles  | November 3, 2010; 12:00 AM ET
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Recipe for job creation:
Make all Bush Tax Cuts permanent
Bury the death tax forever
2 years of government grid lock
Establish a Warren type commission in the House to investigate the manmade global warming hoax
Posted by: billybeer6 | November 3, 2010 9:54

Right...care to explain??

(ahh moveable type error...does that mean double posting????)

Posted by: bertzel | November 4, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Recipe for job creation:
Make all Bush Tax Cuts permanent
Bury the death tax forever
2 years of government grid lock
Establish a Warren type commission in the House to investigate the manmade global warming hoax
Posted by: billybeer6 | November 3, 2010 9:54

Right...care to explain??

Posted by: bertzel | November 4, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

When it comes to pollution, there are rivers so badly poluted in this country that they have caught on fire~~~

Really. I must have missed that tidbit...what rivers in this country are sooo polluted that fire ensued?

~~God knows my mind as well as everyone else's mind.
We are an open book.~~~
Really. God knows your mind...interesting.
You may be an open book dave but I assure you I am not.

~~~We only deceive ourselves and other people.
We are a nation of deceivers.~~
Speak for yourself dave...you have issues.

People like you who run at the mouth concerning the welfare of others, the obvious character assassination of others as a whole and using God as a weapon for your 'crap' whatever it may be, is what has led me to leave the church and organized religion in the first place....you make a lousy preacher dave.

and there will always be 'survival of the fittest'. perhaps your perception of what that phrase means is off as well.

Posted by: bertzel | November 4, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Would you like to eat someone else's garbage?
Dave

think I just did ! : )kidding

Posted by: bertzel | November 4, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

In other words, if you wish to support these programs, you indicate on your personal tax form just how much you would like to give. If you don't want to give, you don't have to. But wait a minute, that might be too much like "freedom of choice". What was I thinking!
Posted by: pauldj

My Reply...
During the thirties great depression, my parents wrapped their garbage and put it on top of the garbage can instead of putting it in the garbage can with the maggots because our out of work neighbors were eating our garbage.

We live in an unstable economy that does not guarantee employment. I was a tool and die maker before I became an engineer and I have been out of work during slowdowns in the economy when jobs were scarce. This country maintains a worker surplus to hold down wages and to provide workers during "good" times.
I agree that there should be government jobs for those who can work that pays the cost of living. Otherwise, they just become cheap labor.
I have had my heat turned off in the middle of a Michigan winter when unemployed because unemployment insurance that workers pay for pays so little.
Why should CEO's who spend most of their time on the golf coarse get paid thousands of times more than I do?

Equity and justice is not socialism.

Our social system at present is based on greed and gambling.

When there is survival of the fittest and monopolies there is no justice or equity.

Would you like to eat someone else's garbage?
Dave

Posted by: OckamsRazor | November 4, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

'Enslaving the workers?' The unions paid out more in campaign financing than any other entity this year genius.

I've been to Bangladesh you incompetent swine so save your petty remarks until you've actually been there.
Posted by ParaRanger22

My reply...
The unions have been no more than a rubber stamp for the corporations. They have become meaningless wimps like you.
I do not have to go to Bangladesh to find poverty and pollution.
I have helped the Salvation Army deliver food to starving children here in the good old USA. I also was in town and there was a mother and dad living in their car and feeding their children popcorn for dinner.
Then there are the tent people and the people living under bridges.
When it comes to pollution, there are rivers so badly poluted in this country that they have caught on fire. We have had thousands of dead fish on beaches due to contaminated water.
You and your so called conservative friends have caused Trillions of dollars debt with your meaningless wars and greedy CEO's running government agenda.
May an elephant fly up your nose and an alligator eat your toes.
You and your malicious and phony conservative friends Should be in jail for your treason.
Dave

Posted by: OckamsRazor | November 3, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

History shows socialism has never led to freedom or prosperity. Governments don't create jobs especially the current government. Corporations like the Washington Post owner of Kaplan the for profit education business create jobs. The Washington Post/Kaplan is probably thinking about who they will have to layoff rather than hire since the current government is looking at big time regulations on the for profit education industry.

Recipe for job creation:
Make all Bush Tax Cuts permanent
Bury the death tax forever
2 years of government grid lock
Establish a Warren type commission in the House to investigate the manmade global warming hoax

Posted by: billybeer6 | November 3, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree with the cartoons (including the sketchpad outtake) & what Tom wrote - I fear for the environment and all who exist in it. At least I still have Mr. Moran in Virginia.
Mostly, though, it appears that corporations run the country (the world?) so it doesn't matter so much who controls Congress. We should have had single payer health care- the Congress did too little, not too much. Much more regulation is needed. the D's were complicit in deregulation of the banks and Wall St. (weren't they?). We still have a war in Iraq only now we're paying more mercenaries. President Obama isn't getting us out of Afghanistan- & may be getting us into Pakistan. This Congress should have already let the tax cuts for high income people expire. I only hope that the Senate & the Pres. will not let the most egregious legislation offered by the new House come to pass. We still have almost 10% unemployment. History shows that giving more tax cuts to the wealthiest people doesn't put anyone to work. Corporations are flush with money now- they are buying each other. They are exporting their business. They are not expanding their business and hiring people in the U.S. I can't wait to see the solutions offered by Republicans.

Posted by: Emma-L | November 3, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

My Reply,
Dhaka Bangladesh is a good example of what this country is fast becoming. The industry is raping the earth and enslaving the workers. Thanks to greed and apathy, the sheep have been lead to slaughter by the Republicorp. You are a sociopathic lunatic. Go back to your computer games where you can torture and kill people at will without retribution; that is until you die and go to hell like this country is headed.
Dave

Posted by: OckamsRazor

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'Enslaving the workers?' The unions paid out more in campaign financing than any other entity this year genius.

I've been to Bangladesh you incompetent swine so save your petty remarks until you've actually been there.

Pay attention class: here we have a typical Liberal, petty, classless reaction to losing on election day. I can tell you that despite the Conservatives getting crushed in 2008, I never showed such absolute childishness.

Want to find the definition of 'punk' in the dictionary? Look no further than Ockamsrazor and his diaspora.

Bottom feeding coward.

Posted by: pararanger22 | November 3, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

2 thoughts- first, I'd love to see Obama start showing charts and graphs like Ross Perot did. He severely undercuts his message by not taking better advantage of PowerPoint.

Second, we are politically divided as a country between urban and rural areas, and any laws going forward need to find ways to scratch the itch on both sides. Liberals need to stop thinking about the federal government like some dysfunctional European state and start thinking of it like the EU- an unweildly conglomeration that should have limited power.

It's actually pretty easy for a lot of issues to be solved more locally. Democrats pay much more in taxes than they are getting back. This is a result of our constitution granting lower population states much more representation in congress. I've heard rural republicans complain about bloated government in real terms, like the size of the agriculture department (more employees than there are farmers!) Driving through Wyoming I've seen one huge federal boondoggle after another, like the national historic trails interpretive center (we were the only visitors, and it is a new, HUGE museum- I got a personal tour from the security guards). Meanwhile democrats see critical issues like crumbling bridges and funding for basic services- problems that just aren't being attended to.

So we need to split the difference. For instance, it is fine to cut taxes so long as remaining funds are distributed with rigid fairness according to population. Let states opt out of the parts of national health care republicans hate, then let democrats amend those parts to be more ideal, like including a federal option. We can also add optional federal programs like support for basic science and schools that is funded by an opt-in carbon tax.

Posted by: efbrazil | November 3, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Can't you have that truck stop, reverse and then back over the donkey again?

And put a slurpee in driver's hand. Ha!

Posted by: NoDonkey | November 3, 2010 4:25 AM | Report
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Too funny. Mr. Toles is so far as I can see the only person who seems to have hit the nail on the head. The Health Care bill ran the democrats over long before this election. It was too much for people in a very fragile economy to swallow. In better times we might have been able to weigh and balance it better but right now so many other things are on people's minds this smacked of extreme overreach. It might still turn out to be agood thing but with so called conservative chatterers willing to pretend this bill was crafted by Lenin himself to over turn capitalism and such a large % of the population willing to swallow that nonsense it was too much.

Posted by: kchses1 | November 3, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

One more TERRIBLE thing to dread:

Evangelical so-called "Christians" imposing their anti-abortion, anti-embryonic stem cell research, anti-Muslim, anti-gay, 2nd coming (only to save them), amidst more war (likely a preemptive strike on Iran - not North Korea).

God (or something save us from such Dark Ages IGNORANCE).

Posted by: lufrank1 | November 3, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

What spigzone said.

Posted by: RaymondTAnderson | November 3, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Now that the election tsunami has come to pass, how about you do some cartoons showing Obama up for the blood thirsty innocent slaughtering war criminal he actually is ...

or how about how he validated and cemented into place the entire gamut of Bushco policies, programs and apparatus necessary to the implementation of a full on police state ... and then expanded on them ...

maybe you could do some cartoons on his blessings to the blatant unending lie-fest the Gulf Oil spill turned into ... how covering BP's a$$ trumped ALL other consideratuions, including the lives and health of his fellow American citizens ...

how about how he and Rahm blowtorched the congressional progressives, the progressive agenda and the progressive movement's CREDIBILITY with a thoroughness the republicans could only have dreamed of ...

how about his absolute determination to protect the wealthy elite and Bushco from any and all investigations and indictments? ... his utter disregard of the rule of law ...

his blowtorching of habeaus corpus beyond what even Darth Cheney dared to try? ...

how he fought like a tiger to keep the TBTF's ability to create another financial armegeddon intact? ...

Etc. etc. etc.

Stop shielding the sociopathic little monster and start showing him for what his ACTIONS paint him to truly be.

Barack Obama IS the Freddy Krueger of Progressive Dreams.

Please ... for the children ...

Posted by: spigzone | November 3, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

It's so refreshing that Republicans are framing the 2010 midterms as their "having gotten a second chance" (after all, who's counting?) and it will certainly be interesting, come January, to see them put into action their cohesive, compassionate, thoughtful and most of all Patriotic plan for doing what's best for America!

Posted by: jonroesler | November 3, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Once again Republicans have convinced the majority to vote against their self interest. ...
Posted by: Ike1975 | November 3, 2010 6:45 AM
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Heck, the Republicans convinced the majority to vote *enthusiastically* against their self interest. They are lemmings. The Tea Party is better named the "Lemming Movement."

It's not as if the Tea Partiers did due diligence in assessing what the Obama administration actually accomplished in less than two years. They sat in front of their Fox not-News tuned TVs and did what they were instructed to do. How easy is that?!?!?!? No thought required.

From an article titled "Poll: Americans Don't Know Economy Expanded With Tax Cuts" at:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-29/poll-shows-americans-don-t-know-economy-expanded-with-tax-cuts.html

we have:

"The Obama administration cut taxes for middle-class Americans, expects to make a profit on the hundreds of billions of dollars spent to rescue Wall Street banks and has overseen an economy that has grown for the past five quarters.

Most voters don’t believe it."

To this, the Tea Partiers will shout "Liar! Liaaaaar!" But people who have been paying attention already knew about most of the things in the article, even if we did not know the precise numbers and with these horrible bailouts unfolding in a positive way.

There's more. Obama saved the auto industry. Health care costs are almost certainly under control now. Obama took the long view--fix the long term problems and try to stimulate the economy. Now many in the GOP/Tea Party say they want to: scrap the entire health care reform bill; cut government spending when lost government jobs already swamp job creation by the private section; decrease taxes as a way to reduce deficits--been there, done that, didn't work. At best, short term solutions w/o addressing long-term problems. The GOP/Tea Party wants to "move forward to the past." What will they do when their policies fail (if they can push them through)? Well, they'll blame the Democrats.

Posted by: ptgrunner | November 3, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Last night we saw Boehner crocodile tears as he talked about rolling up sleeves and getting to work. The banner on the Post page sezs it all... "Republicans vow to block Obama agenda." D-D-S-S

Posted by: DOOGSTER | November 3, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Politics is said to be the art of doing what is possible. Assuming you are correct about global warming---which seems likely---it is most likely already too late. The upside for the planet is that from the perspective of most any other species, what the world needs most is fewer humans. If we have destined ourselves for population reduction sooner, well we just advanced the process, perhaps to the advantage of the roaches. Perhaps they can evolve into an intelligent, enlightened species. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are to be greatly admired if they reasoned that they had done all that was realistically possible for the economy, (that it is just going to take a long time to get back) and proceeded to do what they could for healthcare. They did do what they could. The new Republican house will most likely be able only to nibble around the edges of this great accomplishment or delay its implementation. The course is set. In an hundred years, the losses of this election will seem small and the accomplishments of Obama, Pelosi, & Reid will loom large.

Posted by: duright | November 3, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I am enormously relieved to see that we have successfully voted to halt global climate change. I was very concerned about that, and now I can stop worrying.

I've dedicated a large pad of paper to noting the successful steps the GOP will be taking to address the various problems that the current administration has failed to resolve. Probably I shouldn't have used a white pad, though. The glare from that pristine page over the coming months might be uncomfortable.

Posted by: fbrewer1 | November 3, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

We have to organize on a community level, maybe some groups will be living-room size. The commercial media is very powerful, expecially now when they can make so much money from political ads, but except for DemocracyNow.org they only report irrelevancies and lies. Fox News - an example of triumpant irrelevancy.

Posted by: PaloAlto4 | November 3, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

My sympathy goes out to the poor, the underemployed and the unemployed as we are now a third world nation.
Congratulations.
Dave

Posted by: OckamsRazor

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Oh boo hoo Dave. Geez - take a trip to Dhaka, Bangladesh. Go for a swim in the river. Live off the economy for a month. Then come back to the Toles post and explain how the US is a 3d World Country.
Whiner.
Posted by: pararanger22

My Reply,
Dhaka Bangladesh is a good example of what this country is fast becoming. The industry is raping the earth and enslaving the workers. Thanks to greed and apathy, the sheep have been lead to slaughter by the Republicorp.
You are a sociopathic lunatic. Go back to your computer games where you can torture and kill people at will without retribution; that is until you die and go to hell like this country is headed.
Dave


Posted by: OckamsRazor | November 3, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"We seem to have lost the capacity to discuss the future sanely."
Yes, that is exactly right. The level of political and civil discourse has degenerated into absurdity.
The horrifying realization that the country is NOT going to be able to think our way out of this because we're not thinking-straight, is truly chilling.
We cannot recognize the real problems. We are misdirected in our thinking by forces beyond our knowledge.
We are manipulated by those who use fear to their advantage. And, we make ourselves as vulnerable as the lamb being led to slaughter.

Posted by: cms1 | November 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I agree that the parties don't have all the answers - they're caught up in an old model about having to take credit above all things.
And some of the problems get ignored because they don't have easy solutions.
Take that new phone book that arrived at my door stoop this morning - basically good for recycled paper, along with the last five years or so - every phone number I need I get online - and so it is with lots of information, including news and political cartoons - the web has transformed commerce, but do we hear the parties talking about what it's doing to our economy? Nope.
Only how they can exploit it to beat the silly putty out of their opposition.
Our economy has changed, and our politics has yet to catch up - that's what we need to be talking about...

Posted by: thanksforfish | November 3, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Tom
Stick to making fun of the Metro.
You're way better at that.
Later

Posted by: buffaloguy1 | November 3, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Once again Republicans have convinced the majority to vote against their self interest.

Posted by: Ike1975 | November 3, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Not exactly. If typical midterm numbers are what we are seeing here, and I have no reason to believe they aren't, they convinced 30-maybe40% of eligible voters. It's not secret the Democrats were lacking in passion and the Republican base was far more motivated. Let the Republicans gloat. This election, while not meaningless, is hardly the repudiation of Obama and the Dems that the Republicans and members of the media would have you believe.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | November 3, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!


Now maybe

Limited Government.
Limited Taxation.
Government out of businesses eg.GM, trash collection.
Government out of Medical care.
Improved management of entitlements.

America, Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, not France lite!

Posted by: dalyplanet | November 3, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, TT. Finally – you’ve landed a commenter with a bona fide sense of humor. You must have laughed right out loud at the remarks of “pauldj” – writing about welfare reform. The very idea that there is still a plethora of “government electricians, plumbers, construction workers, etc.” who exist somewhere with jobs must have tickled your funny bone as it did mine; or that if there were such jobs and people, that any of these workers would be willing to have some unemployed sales executive or computer engineer spending the day at his side breathing down his neck, asking dumb questions, and telling “war stories” from a lost job. Honestly, what a comic!! Typically I hate anyone explaining a joke, (mostly because it spoils most of the punch), but didn't you chuckle in the part where "pauldj" thinks anyone is left who might remain ignorant about such jobs even existing these days?? I know I did. But my favorite was his comment about the “clients in our health clubs” who are “unemployed, … not (to) be looking for a job until AFTER THE SUMMER WAS OVER.” I’ve always been a fan of irony in humor, especially where the author takes a poke at the well-heeled and privileged – in this case, of course, it’s guys who belong to a health club. Serious kudos are in order to this guy for creating the image that there might be welfare recipients at a pricey gym, instead of white-collared guys getting unemployment insurance or severance pay. Oh - -and I loved the way he trashed the fact that these guys who might just be savvy enough about their chances of getting jobs in the near future, ones which pay more than weekly subsistence-living checks; funny because these guys' chances are way less than fifty-fifty. Finally, some really funny stuff, TT.

Posted by: dudeupnorth | November 3, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Predictions:

Dems, more or less gutless the last two years, will now run in fear for their lives, and go along with idiotic conservative ideas. They will help the conservatives gut programs that help ordinary folks, while giving more and more money to the top tier (ala Bush II).

When government services begin to falter, and we start to see the results of this (with huge layoffs of teachers, school cutbacks, local government services losing any sort of state or federal support, even more lack of enforcement of environmental regulations, more BP-type disasters, etc.), Fox News will blame government. And the sheeple will swallow this explanation and put more conservatives in office in the next election.

It will eventually lead to 1929, as corporate interests take us over the cliff just as they did then, and in 2008. And the pendulum will swing back, bigger, harder. And as the aging Fox News audience dies off, hopefully people will recognize what exactly is happening (boom and bust, boom and bust, etc) and finally catch on.

Or...this will all take way too long to unfold, and by then, nature will have made any sort of stable economy/society (that's been denying its connection to nature for far too long), completely impossible to achieve, and we will see the decline of the human species.

Yes, I'm in a cynical mood today, and have lost some faith in Americans. The defeat of Russ Feingold by a multimillionaire plastics manufacturer who believes sunspots are responsible for any climate change, will do that to a person.

Posted by: PrairieDog60 | November 3, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

GaryEMasters writes
"I say come back when you have more answers and some model that will take care of a cooling and a warming Earth."

The problem with that kind of thinking is it leaves no room for error. If the climate change side is wrong, the oil & coal will still be there to harvest and burn in another century - if/when the climate change proponents are proven wrong. But if they're right, we're screwed & there is no backup plan.

Posted by: bsimon1 | November 3, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

My sympathy goes out to the poor, the underemployed and the unemployed as we are now a third world nation.
Congratulations.
Dave

Posted by: OckamsRazor

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Oh boo hoo Dave. Geez - take a trip to Dhaka, Bangladesh. Go for a swim in the river. Live off the economy for a month. Then come back to the Toles post and explain how the US is a 3d World Country.

Whiner.

Posted by: pararanger22 | November 3, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

It could already be too late to do anything about climate change. Mother Nature always bats last and, as you say, She is not deterred by polls or even elections.

I predict that, on the promise of job growth, we will see the minimum wage and corporate taxes gutted, as well as environmental enforcement, and we still won't get back the jobs that were sent overseas.

Posted by: fostersm1 | November 3, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

pauldj - Apologies. I misread your comment. I didn't see "on your tax form". Points still apply, but nix the reference to you.

Posted by: dagrubb824 | November 3, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

pauldj - Voluntary taxes sounds nice (it does! No snark!), but when was the last time someone wrote a check to the V.A. because they thought it would help? Charity is a wonderful thing, but it's an unreliable source of revenue.

Meanwhile, people's houses burn down while the fire department waits for the owners to pay their firefighting fee. (This is actually happening in some places where the FD's budgets were slashed due to the lack of tax funds.)

Here in Va, thanks to McDonnell's budget cuts, we've lost a huge chunk of the budget for schools, mental health, and public defenders/appellate lawyers. Sure, mentally infirm adults who can't support themselves are being kicked out on the street and innocents are waiting their turn on death row and your kid can't find Mexico on a map...but there's no car tax! Another victory for freedom!

Posted by: dagrubb824 | November 3, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

We survived 8 years of Reagan.
We survived (barely) 8 years of Bush II.
We will survive 2 years of Boehner/Cantor.
Chatter.
Chatter.
Chatter.

Posted by: GeneTouchet | November 3, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Sleight of hand, not slight of hand? Perhaps you do mean slight anyway, given how people forget the economic laissez-faire slights of the working class that got us into this sorry mess. Nevertheless, it should be enlightening to hear about the entitlement cuts that are needed to get the deficit under control. Really, how long do you think Boehner will stay Speaker if he tries to get the deficit under control? Bon temps roulez!

Posted by: instanton | November 3, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

OK. They come around and say "We got to cool off the Earth. Warming will ruin us." And if you say "What if warm is good?" and they do not have an answer - they just say you "deny our ideas. You must be crazy."

I say come back when you have more answers and some model that will take care of a cooling and a warming Earth.

It is half asked right now. You need to think more and plan more.

Then Mr. Toples says I am a "denier."

Rubbish.

I do not deny anything. I just ask for a robust plan of action that covers things like ice ages.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | November 3, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm. An increasing divergence in wealth distribution paralleling an increase in illegal immigration, increase in government entitlement programs, etc. Could it possibly be that our current policies regarding social entitlement programs are actually encouraging SOME (not all) people to stay home and collect? Where I live, I cannot even count how many clients in our health clubs told us that although unemployed, they would not be looking for a job until AFTER THE SUMMER WAS OVER so they could "relax". It's too easy! I'm all for helping out those who really need it. Maybe we could have those on welfare actually work for their funds. We can have them help clean government buildings, maintain the public landscape, babysit for those working above jobs in a government day care center, work side-by-side with government electricians, plumbers, construction workers, etc. to learn a trade so they can work. In other words, unless you are disabled and unable to work, you MUST WORK to collect welfare. And there is a maximum time to collect -- long enough for you to get training and secure a job on your own. Perhaps another solution might be to fund social entitlement programs through voluntary taxation. In other words, if you wish to support these programs, you indicate on your personal tax form just how much you would like to give. If you don't want to give, you don't have to. But wait a minute, that might be too much like "freedom of choice". What was I thinking!

Posted by: pauldj | November 3, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Having got over the fun bit, maybe the US will start to talk seriously about the ongoing wars in the World. All of which belong to the US; Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan. Plus the problem spots where it is active; Yemen, Sudan, N. Korea, Israel and neighbours, (Lebanon), and Iran.

Just hoping.

Posted by: Stonebird | November 3, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

"The votes are in, but unfortunately the climate doesn't work by poll, or even election. What we are doing is I think the gravest folly of my lifetime, and possibly in all of human history."

Amen, sir. There are tragedies beyond words. JFK once predicted a "long twilight struggle" against communisim. We are now engaged in a long twilight struggle against ignorance, greed and complacency. And the stakes are far too high to stop fighting.

David Scott
Vice President
Sierra Club

Posted by: davidscott1 | November 3, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Gloating Republican know-nothings so ignorant of history as they jump off a cliff singing of an imaginary paradise with 72 smiling Ronald Reagans awaiting them with open arms.

Posted by: pdurand | November 3, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Once again Republicans have convinced the majority to vote against their self interest. It's quite a feat really. Looking at the map, the states that want the government to back off get the most government money. The people who don't have health care or a substantial income vote Republican. Hell, the "elite" Republicans rail against are helped most by Republican policies. Truly stunning.

Posted by: Ike1975 | November 3, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait for Democrat trash day 2012. Dems may want to book their Canada trip early to beat the rush.

Posted by: jornolibist | November 3, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Well, will12, what makes you think the GOP is in power? Wait till you hear what Obama says today. When he gets through, you won’t have any doubt who’s in charge.

Posted by: quiensabe | November 3, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

Can't you have that truck stop, reverse and then back over the donkey again?

And put a slurpee in driver's hand. Ha!

Posted by: NoDonkey | November 3, 2010 4:25 AM | Report abuse

Tom,

I wouldn't be too afraid. Now that the Republicans control the House, it will be fascinating to see what their platform will be -- they having gone into this election without one.

It will be equally interesting to see if the Tea Party members of Congress show that they actually have a streak of independence, or if they will vote lock-step with the Republicans. My bet is on the latter.

Finally, the most likely outcome of this election is two years of gridlock. Although we can't really afford a do-nothing Congress at this stage in the economic cycle, at least we're less likely to suffer from a repetition of the disastrous policies of the Republican Party and their nutty new TP members.

Posted by: Iceman3 | November 3, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it has something to do with a guilty conscience.
Dave
Posted by: OckamsRazor | November 1, 2010 7:53 PM

Dave, maybe YOU would be better off going to confession today....I heard it works wonders.
Posted by: bertzel

My Reply...
What is to confess?
God knows my mind as well as everyone else's mind.
We are an open book.

We only deceive ourselves and other people.
We are a nation of deceivers.
Obama deceived everyone with his promise of Change. He made sure the ship of state remained on the coarse set by the Republicans. Everything he has accomplished has been to the benefit of Republicorps. The house has gone to his beloved Republicans and now he can imagine himself the great uniter when in fact we are now more divided than ever.
We are officially an oligarchy run by a corporation.
My sympathy goes out to the poor, the underemployed and the unemployed as we are now a third world nation.
Congratulations.
Dave


Posted by: OckamsRazor | November 3, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Now that the GOP is in power, I should follow these two simple rules:
Don't get sick and don't be poor.

Don't think I can avoid being affected by climate change... or by a decrease in nat'l productivity. But if I'm rich and healthy, why should I care about that?!

Posted by: will12 | November 3, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait to hear the whining on "Democracy Now" tomorrow. The garden has been pruned for winter.

Posted by: chaunceygardener | November 3, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

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