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Posted at 12:00 AM ET, 01/ 5/2011

Pick your poison

By Tom Toles

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Boom Bust

The Boomers are starting to reach Medicare age! Another excuse to write about them, and another headache from having to read about them. As a Boomer myself, let me state my considered opinion that, as an enterprise, the Boomer Generation was a colossal fizzle.

I guess it's clear by now that Boomers think well of themselves, but I don't see why. We lived through an extraordinarily interesting decade, though what Boomers actually contributed to it I am unable to put my finger on. The great things that happened in the 60's, the civil rights, the music, the inspiring and unworkable life philosophy, these were really the products of pre-Boomers, many of whom LOOKED like boomers, but were older. Exhibit A: The Beatles.

The Boomers were more accurately the audience. We were the enthusiastic consumers of our own mythology, created by others. Consumers! Rhymes with Boomers! When we became adults, what kind of America did we create? Ronald Reagan Land! He wasn't a boomer, either. We've been living there ever since. Groovy. --Tom Toles

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By Tom Toles  | January 5, 2011; 12:00 AM ET
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lol laughing out loud.
luck has nothing to do with it.
I take it you believe the 'obamacare package' will take care of all your ailing woes with the best service and cheapest cost??? I've come to learn that you get what you pay for and, even then, sometimes(guess I should go with, Most of the time) you still get 'ripped off'....

Posted by: bertzel | January 6, 2011 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Who the hell put a quarter in you dave??
lol
Posted by: bertzel

My Quarter...
Is that lol lots of luck or lots of laughs?
I got my dentist bill and what the insurer payed was a quarter of the dental costs and we pay high premiums.
I choked on my sense of what is fair and spit out a rant consistent with my frustration.
When do we start tar and feathering and then quartering organizations that are robbing the public?
It is really disgusting that our government is too busy brown nosing their big time contributors to their election to do what they are paid to do which is to provide this nation with the equitable distribution of goods and services.
Who needs Middle East terrorists when we have our own brand right here in the good old USA. The working people are getting slammed from every direction and their hands are tied while their protectors bicker over who is responsible for what.
Yet another Rant...
Dave


Posted by: OchamsRazor | January 5, 2011 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Who the hell put a quarter in you dave??
lol

Posted by: bertzel | January 5, 2011 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Tom is right. Anyone who wants to cut spending is irresponsible. The folks that want to keep running up the debt are the responsible ones. Well, at least in liberal fantasy land.
Posted by: bobmoses

My Rant...
Great balls of fire! It is time to get out the whip and do the flagellation back stroke.
We are up to our arm pits in alligators and the conservatives are circling our area with their power boats.
The anal-retentive and socipathic conservatives have won the day and are looking to do us all in with their end times mind set. They think they will be saved from the holocaust when that is another Republican lie.
The liberals are pushing agendas that are undermining the family and supporting the Republican agenda to destroy our social stability and povertyize working people.
The country is getting flushed down the toilet and the people are too confused to think straight.
Ignorance is bliss until you get ate by an alligator.
World War Three will be no fantasy.
Peace comes at a price and we are out of money and on borrowed time.
Dave
Social Systems Specialist.


Posted by: OchamsRazor | January 5, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

pararanger, just a couple of facts before I ask a question.

The economy collapsed in 2008, with most economists and historians calling it the "great recession", second only to the Great Depression in its devastation. When this occurred, George W. Bush was president. Congress had been in the hands of Democrats for a little over 1 year when this happened, and had been controlled by Republicans for most of the 12 years preceding. From 2008 back, Republicans held the White House for 28 out of 40 years. When the last Democrat to hold the White House in that time left, he left a budget surplus.

Now the question. How exactly did the people you mention "screw up the country"?

Posted by: PrairieDog60 | January 5, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

pjohn2 wrote:

["Your 95% figure is suspiciously like a Faux News "fact".
So all Republican politicians are "liberals" by your definition. God, you hate everybody."]

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Actually, the 95% figure was over a decade ago and very clearly made the case that journalists are heavily in favor of the Democrats. But the trend remains the same (I hate doing the web site thing but this one is pretty simple) http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp

The difference between folks that support the GOP and folks that support the Democrats is that when the GOP screws up, we vote them out. Liberals just keep reelecting the most morally bankrupt, worthless, rude individuals on the planet (take a bow Barney Frank, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer) no matter how bad they screw up the country.

BTW, I don't hate God or anyone else. What kind of cupcake are you?

Posted by: pararanger22 | January 5, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

pararanger22
I'm not close minded, just giving you the facts. Most Liberal journalists (95% of all journalists are Liberal, actually) and politicians have earned the label "Limosouine Liberals" from the life style they lead. They preach one thing and do another. Politicians aren't going to politically survive by doing that anymore.
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Your 95% figure is suspiciously like a Faux News "fact".
So all Republican politicians are "liberals" by your definition.
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God, you hate everybody.

Posted by: pjohn2 | January 5, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

jhnnywalkr wrote:

["That's one way to look at it. Another is that what's in Alaska and offshore isn't enough to make a dent in either our needs for imports, either current or future, or oil prices, which are in a large part set by other countries by fiat anyways."]

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Typical illogical argument that is part of every Liberal's talking point file. Essentially the Lib stance is that more US oil doesn't matter because it will not do anything about the cost. The problem with that argument is it just ain't true. The more oil we produce, the better position we'll have on the world oil market. If Liberals had their way, we would make fossil fuels obsolete and just adjust our habits. Heck, we ought to shut down our existing wells too! Why not close the coal mines while were at it! No more air transportation - hot air balloons and sail boats for all!

A few years ago I was in Toronto on a business trip and read the local rag. There was a story from a true Liberal environmentalist that proclaimed that he was going to sterilize himself in order to prevent one more human life to sour and expend the earth's resources. He wanted other Liberals to join him.

I can't think of a better way for Liberals to save the planet!

Posted by: pararanger22 | January 5, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Your Liberals are holding the US hostage to your extreme vies that threaten our national security. Anyone with any common sense knows we need to drill for more oil in Alaska and offshore until all these other green activities can realistically replace fossil fuels. Instead, we allow fuel prices to go through the ceiling and deny Americans 1000s of jobs. That's what I'm sick of and am working to change.

Posted by: pararanger22 | January 5, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

That's one way to look at it. Another is that what's in Alaska and offshore isn't enough to make a dent in either our needs for imports, either current or future, or oil prices, which are in a large part set by other countries by fiat anyways.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | January 5, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Read PrairieDog's comment. It's worth it because that was the real conserving group of folks who were also spiritual in that way, limiting excesses and consumerism.

Nowadays, "conservative" is becoming the opposite of "Spiritual," with lies and high theft. Nowadays, we need safety in food, because of the additives here and abroad, and because of the drive for sick profit.

Posted by: Tony-KS | January 5, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

No, no, sentence first, verdict afterwards.

Posted by: Antibogotes | January 5, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Johnnywalker wrote:

["I get so tired of this argument. If someone doesn't live like a monk, shunning all the technology of society, yet still believes that steps should be taken on a larger scale to try to curtail the impact of human society on the environment they are not, in fact, hypocrites. They are people who live in the real world, see a problem, and see there are things that can be done about it. Argue the solutions they came up with, their respective benefits and costs, if you like. Don't attack them personally. It shows you to be closed-minded."]

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I'm not close minded, just giving you the facts. Most Liberal journalists (95% of all journalists are Liberal, actually) and politicians have earned the label "Limosouine Liberals" from the life style they lead. They preach one thing and do another. Politicians aren't going to politically survive by doing that anymore.

You argue that some folks (let's assume they're Liberals) are trying to be pragmatic and improve the environment and shouldn't be held to a high standard. Yet these same folks never have one single good thing to say about an energy company. Ever. Despite the fact they use those energy products every day.

Your Liberals are holding the US hostage to your extreme vies that threaten our national security. Anyone with any common sense knows we need to drill for more oil in Alaska and offshore until all these other green activities can realistically replace fossil fuels. Instead, we allow fuel prices to go through the ceiling and deny Americans 1000s of jobs. That's what I'm sick of and am working to change.

Posted by: pararanger22 | January 5, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Boomers have always come across like the middle-aged former high school QB who spends his free time reminiscing about that one great year in his life that he'll never get back. We get it -- you had your 15 minutes, you went to some awesome parties, you were going to change the world. Then you got older and fatter and lamer and never did anything. So just do us all a favor and get over yourself.

Posted by: simpleton1 | January 5, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

As a late boomer coming into the world near the tail end of the boom, I'd have to say that the generation of my parents taught me a lot about how to live in the world. They grew up during the depression, and mom, raising seven kids on a railroad man's salary, recycled, reused and reduced everywhere she could. Clothes have holes in them? Patch them or sew them up. Can't patch or sew them anymore? Make towels, rags or quilts out of them. Hmm...how many ways can you stretch a pound of beef or a can of spam? Neighbors need help? Let's go!

Mom never drove...never had a license. With seven kids! She never worked outside the home. She stayed home to take care of us. Did she or dad make it to the little league games? Not very often. How did we get there? Rode our bikes, walked, or rode with friends. Did my siblings and I suffer terribly because mom and dad weren't at every game or every school concert? No. We understood. And it was that much more of a treat when they could come.

I once mentioned to mom a few years ago that I was involved in a rain barrel workshop; helping people learn to construct rain barrels to catch water from their downspouts and keep it out of the storm sewers to avoid flooding and polluting of waterways. She said, "when I was little we ALL had a barrel under our downspouts. It was free water!" What was once old is now new again.

Progress isn't always progress. "Old school" isn't always corny. And the ideas of conservation and common sense when it comes to the environment aren't some "liberal" BS. My folks taught me about how to be an environmentalist long before it was a word; because when they grew up, the knowledge of how precious resources were was very apparent day in and day out. Somehow we've forgotten, because now *everything* is convenient. And somehow, the thought that resources are precious and must be protected (and yes, regulated), has become the scorn of conservatives everywhere. Kind of ironic when you actually look at the word "conservative". Hmm...kinda resembles "conservation".

Posted by: PrairieDog60 | January 5, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

", eventually ending a stupid war."

I was here then and most of the bridges stayed open and the war was ended with an agreement in Paris. Not by some slackers in DC.

Is that all you have to be proud of?

Posted by: GaryEMasters | January 5, 2011 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I worked at FDA band know how dedicated and informed the people at FDA are. They work long hours to protect us. Why get rid of that? Or them?

Posted by: GaryEMasters | January 5, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Waste, fraud or abuse? I’d have to say that pretty much sums up the strong cocktail which was passed around all too often in the hands of government & it’s ‘for the people’ programs. All those ingredients ended up, one way or other, being the norm of how things were run which, in fact, rhymes with done.

Yes MOST of the created government run programs were/are needed. HOWEVER the abuse of power and funds must be stopped and those involved with the ‘corruption’ must be held accountable. Don’t know if we can trust / believe anyone to be honest anymore.

As for your Boomer nostalgia Toles…perhaps it is a sign of the times?

“…the inspiring and unworkable life philosophy”…gotta chuckle out of that one :)

I doubt the gathering of ‘New Agers’ in D.C. attempting to block roads and bridges would end the wars of our time tho…
long live classic rock!
Never cared much for the word ‘groovy’…more of a ‘cool’ person.

Posted by: bertzel | January 5, 2011 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Boom Bust:

Pre-Hippies: Woman about to deliver is wheeled into a glaring, sterile operating room, knocked out and cut open. Her baby is whisked away to join the other babies in the baby barracks, where the kid gets a rubber nipple stuck in its mouth through which is delivered "formula." Meanwhile, dad, having been removed from the drama, is located and informed of the outcome. Real homey, that.

Post-Hippie: Expectant parents are invited to "birthing classes" where they can ask questions, meet others in the same boat, and get generally useful tips about the big event. When the day comes, mom-to-be is settled comfortably in a soothingly appointed "birthing suite", encouraged and helped to deliver naturally, given the newborn to hold and nurse. Dad (unless overly squeamish)is present and invited to cut the cord, sponge off the baby and tend to the discomforts of his wife.

This humanizing of birthing did not come about at the behest of hospital administrators, the AMA, or insurance executives, but at the insistence of women's libbers and back-to-nature freaks.

Thank you, Boomers!

Posted by: HumanistPatriot | January 5, 2011 9:41 AM | Report abuse

jornolibist, why must it be "lib outrage" all the time when it's something you disagree with? As a liberal, I am not outraged by the videos themselves. I don't think it's appropriate behavior for a captain though.

As for Clinton, that was inappropriate behavior too, but he wasn't a ship's captain, he was commander-in-chief. There's a different process to go through to try to remove him from his position, one which was, in fact, followed.

Posted by: jhnnywalkr | January 5, 2011 9:40 AM | Report abuse

CAPT Honors forgot the first rule of behavior: would your grandmother be happy if she saw the behavior? Making jokes about gays or videotaping women in the showers demeans both groups and diminishes the speaker. Leadership is not being "one of the guys". It is, instead, about lifting EVERYONE up. His departure, while wrenching, is appropriate.

Posted by: DougMUSN | January 5, 2011 5:43 AM | Report abuse

Those videos were just a personal thing between Capt Honors and his crew and evidently the crew had no problem at the time since it has taken three years to start complaining. We had a Commander in Chief who played with a cigar with a subordinate and stained her dress and everybody at the time said that was just personal thing. So why all the lib outrage now?

Posted by: jornolibist | January 4, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

It's true. Many of the people we associate with the 60s weren't actually boomers. And that generation has for the most part not lived up to expectations.

However, anybody who thinks the boomers have not been responsible for any innovations is overlooking an extremely important development: the computer revolution. The boomers didn't invent computing, the semiconductor, or the Internet, but they essentially shepherded the world from the analog to the digital era, and the other generations got on board. Personal computers, networking, mobile communications, and the Web were the premier advances of the 20th century, more important than the invention of the airplane or nuclear power. In 100 years, everyone will acknowledge that.

Posted by: EthelredtheUnready | January 4, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute... Which party was it that, only a few weeks ago, said NO legislation would be allowed to pass until Bush's deficit-generating tax cuts were extended through the end of Obama's first term? And are now crying, "Deficit!"

?!?

Whatever.

You know what? Don't extend the debt ceiling. Stand fast. Seriously. Do it. Now that you've insisted on continuation of a policy that increases the deficit, refuse to increase the deficit. Great strategy.

Oh, and blame it on those nasty Liberals... because it's they who should have stopped you in the first place. (That part is true.)

Posted by: jonroesler | January 4, 2011 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Tom is right. Anyone who wants to cut spending is irresponsible. The folks that want to keep running up the debt are the responsible ones. Well, at least in liberal fantasy land.

Posted by: bobmoses | January 4, 2011 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Congress costs a few million per day to run or about the average salary of an American worker for the half hour it will take to read the Constitution on the House floor.

I’m all for our Congressional representatives reading the Constitution, I just think that floor time on the House of Representatives would be better spent discussing the Constitution.

I’d love to hear a half hour discussion of how the First Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment allow for Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.

Or a half hour about why it is still better to have the Electoral College choose our President instead of by direct election.

Or a half hour about how since the Equal Rights Amendment for women never passed and since Scalia and others on the Supreme Court feel that women don’t have a constitutional right to equal protection and since the Constitution refers to the President as “he” multiple times and since the Founding Fathers original intent was for the president to be a man, is it constitutional to have a women president?

Posted by: EarlyBird1 | January 4, 2011 8:29 PM | Report abuse

It is nice to see that you finally got the Baby Boomer thing figured out. A huge supply of consumers with little innovation or extraordinary effort

Posted by: pwscout | January 4, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Have you forgotten that our generation marched on Washington DC and shut it down by strangling traffic at bridges, eventually ending a stupid war. That's big, Tom.

~eric.

Posted by: 2ericc | January 4, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Amazing insight!

Posted by: lufrank1 | January 4, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

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