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Posted at 12:00 AM ET, 02/ 9/2011

Budget Hole

By Tom Toles

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Job-killers!

Everything conservatives don't like now is a "Job-Killer". The Phrase Factory that operates in the well-funded world of conservative messaging must be operating at near capacity and may sop up the 9 percent unemployed all by itself. "Death Panels" was a recent fav, as is the less-glossy "Uncertainty!" which is the new plague of the American economy and refers to any action the government might take, about anything. The same swaggering business community that tells the newly unemployed to suck it up and enjoy the swashbuckling "Creative Destruction" that just destroyed their jobs suddenly can't seem to deal with a government effort to provide health insurance to the sick or dying because that would create "Uncertainty!"

So when egged on to name some nasty regulations the government could get rid of so the corporations might just possibly hire somebody, what a list they came up with! Get rid of that requirement to disclose the how much the chief executive is paid relative to workers! THEN watch the jobs materialize! DON'T reward whistle-blowers for reporting fraud to the SEC! Now THERE is the blockage to your job prospects!

Then there is the whole range of environmental regulations that require companies to actually COVER the costs of the waste they create rather than dump them for free into your air and your water. These are not about cost efficiency, they are about cost-SHIFTING. To you and your health and your wallet and your planet. "DEATH PANELS" that you don't get to sit on. --Tom Toles

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By Tom Toles  | February 9, 2011; 12:00 AM ET
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"Then there is the whole range of environmental regulations that require companies to actually COVER the costs of the waste they create..."

The question wasn't "What regulations would you like to get rid of in order to increase your profits".

Absolutely these environmental regulations hinder a business from hiring more workers. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be in place. Having them in place is a net gain for society and the planet, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't recognize that they come at a cost.

Posted by: MDLaxer | February 14, 2011 6:36 AM | Report abuse

~~According to some here, I will have to unlearn everything I know, has a nice ring to it bert. daly~~

Everything daly???
Surely not Everything : )

Posted by: bertzel | February 9, 2011 6:27 PM | Report abuse


Sorry if I was so obtuse--er--abstruse. I was ribbing them for "cherry picking": citing a cold winter as evidence against global warming. Speaking of which, here is brazen example from the Heartland Institute, hot off the web: http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2011/02/articgate_now_thats_cherrypick.php

You can follow the links around: Huffington Post story; Heartland's Joseph Bast letter to the editor excoriating a bona fide scientist by name; former astronaut and senator Harrison Schmitt--quite a story--comments on various AGW-denier debunker websites are having a field day with it.

ArcticGate!

Posted by: e30m42 | February 9, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

According to some here, I will have to unlearn everything I know, has a nice ring to it bert.

Some of those many items on the wish list are probably in there so compromise may be reached on the important ones. maybe??

Posted by: dalyplanet | February 9, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

~~~~~~~~There is a problem with knowledge, though. The thing about going and learning the facts is that, once learned, it's impossible to unlearn them. ~~~
Posted by: jonroesler~~~

I dunno...'unlearn'... forget...forget... 'unlearn'.
Same difference.

Posted by: bertzel | February 9, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Tom, thanks to the link to the Targeting Regulations by Darrell Issa and his gang. It's troubling to know on how many fronts the Republicans still wish to continue their agenda of deregulations, even though they are primarily responsible for the financial crisis which still reverberates around the globe.

Posted by: alexnyc8 | February 9, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

fbrewer1

Do you think bury CO2 or pump it into the ocean at a 30% to 40% extra energy cost is a good thing or do you think this is just a talking point ???

Posted by: dalyplanet | February 9, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

fbrewer1

please tell What talking point is presented in looking to Fairbanks recent temperature and recent temp trend at NOAA and reply to posted comment regarding recent warm weather. Just reporting weather Facts absent any talking points.

But I will say that the recent bending of today's weather into climate change proof does not hold up in any peer reviewed science including the 4 IPCC reports not summery. As you say,

As FDR remarked, "Repeating a lie does not transform it into a truth."

applies to certain bending of the facts regarding weather events. NOAA knows weather and the US leads in weather prediction.

Posted by: dalyplanet | February 9, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

~~~There is a problem with knowledge, though. The thing about going and learning the facts is that, once learned, it's impossible to unlearn them. ~~~

Posted by: jonroesler |

I have to agree that is a true statement Jon.

So I will ask you, what is the difference in the difference between polar water temperatures and equatorial ones,or more accurately Gulf waters from 100 years ago and today? How much change is there? I can tell you the answer from several sources but I am wondering what you have to back up your claim. Also do you have any facts as to the reduction in volume of this flow.

I an curious to your understanding regarding the effect of La Nina on weather today and also North Atlantic Oscillation related to Northern Hemisphere weather. Do you think these documented and well understood oscillations may be playing a bigger role in weather today than AGW?

Posted by: dalyplanet | February 9, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

@dalyplanet - I think you should begin every comment here with a public statement of gratitude to Mr Toles for allowing you space in this forum to continue your incessant denials and misinformation about global climate change.

As FDR remarked, "Repeating a lie does not transform it into a truth."

You attempt to present yourself as a reasonable skeptic, but it's a worn-out subterfuge. You repeatedly present the same tired denialist talking points that have long since been thoroughly discredited. And each time you trot them out again, it's as though this was a freshly minted discovery you've achieved......some sort of breakthrough.

Either entirely disingenuous, or you're like a baby turkey......you wake up to a brand new world every day.

Posted by: fbrewer1 | February 9, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Do I detect a certain smugness?

Meanwhile, in Fairbanks, AK, the high for today, Feb 9, is forecast to be 27 F; the high for Jan 2, 2011 was 41 F. To which I expect the answer will be (screamed with abundant foam and spittle): "don't you know the difference between climate and weather?"

Or will it be about sunspots?

Posted by: e30m42

I may venture a guess it is about chinook winds not sunspots. The highest Jan high has been 50 F about 70 years ago and Fairbanks average temp has actually dropped 1.3 deg F in the last few years compared to the 30 year running average according to NOAA

Posted by: dalyplanet | February 9, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Umm... There IS a difference between climate and weather. Climate is a condition based on latitude; weather is the subset of a particular climate that occurs on a particular day or month or, even, season.

The weather in the northern U.S. and Canada today is generally cold, while the climate is temperate. Weather near the equator today is likely generally warm, and the climate near the equator is tropical.

Regarding global warming and cold temperatures, anyone interested in understanding how it works (as opposed to pretending that their ignorance is somehow a quality to be sought after) can learn what they need to know at the NASA or NOAA websites. It has to do with sea levels rising, and changes in the Gulf Stream and other currents that normally bring warm surface water from the equator toward the poles (keeping winter weather in the temperate climate zones, well, "temperate") and deeper currents that bring cooler water back from the poles to the equator where this monster convection cycle is repeated.

The less difference between polar water temperatures and equatorial ones, the less convection will occur. Less convection equals less current. Less current equals less warming effect by the Gulf Stream during winter (during the sumer, outr hemisphere is pointed toward the sun so we don't need the local warming) and less warming during the winter equals generally colder winter weather.

Most of the people out there blogging are intelligent enough to understand this whole thing, at least in a basic way. Convection is not that complicated.

So, is it that people are ignorant? Or just lying?

There is a problem with knowledge, though. The thing about going and learning the facts is that, once learned, it's impossible to unlearn them. Pretend all you like but, once you've been educated, lying to yourselves is even less effective than trying to convice other people who already understand.

Posted by: jonroesler | February 9, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

~~ Now, here’s what I am suggesting, TT, in order to regain that equanimity of emotion for which you’ve earned fame and countless kudos; and can return to the good ol' Tom Toles that we’ve come to love and admire: only read my stuff. See if that doesn’t work.
Posted by: dudeupnorth | February 9, 2011 12:25 PM ~~~~

LOL!!!!

Posted by: bertzel | February 9, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

~~~~ The same swaggering business community that tells the newly unemployed to suck it up and enjoy the swashbuckling "Creative Destruction" that just destroyed their jobs suddenly can't seem to deal with a government effort to provide health insurance to the sick or dying because that would create "Uncertainty!"~~~~TOLES

Good point. That point of course being…Businesses, Companies, Corporations, not the GOP per se. Unless you are stating that only those within the GOP own, operate and run the aforementioned (I like that word too).

Now Toles, you like to exaggerate, to say the least, and you are doing it in full form today. And I am not even going to get into the paper mill jab : ) Not this time anyway.
I know I have been accused of being a bit paranoid (chuckle) and I am. You see a lot of your readers happen to believe the exaggerations you create or allude to,for example… This article you are referring to (by your coworkers no less) is titled, “House GOP targets Obama Regulations.” That is a croc which your readers would/could conclude if they actually read the article. So I will take it upon myself to sum it up…

Issa happens to be a Republican, yes, and is in charge of said ’Christmas wish List.

On the other hand Commings happens to be a Democrat and is ALSO interested in the EVALUATION of the current regs. And agrees that some items MAY be Extreme and /or outdated, which in fact would be a detriment to job growth here in these United States
I do not see a problem with a Review of items. Nowhere has it been stated by ‘the powers that be’ that all of the items listed would be eliminated…just that they were on the “Christmas List” written by the businesses, not the GOP.

That being said, when it comes to ‘wish lists’, we don’t get everything we want do we?

~~~~this weird idea of theirs that business should not be regulated by government, though, is really a strange one. I don't think our Founders would have agreed.
Posted by: FergusonFoont~~~

Who said businesses should not have any regulation?
The question should be, to what extreme?
Of course some regulation is needed. There are also some that are outdated and some that, tho they may look good on paper, really are not being dealt with. And others are just ‘ridiculous’. A Couple of them I see are indeed on that list.

But hey…that’s just my unbiased opinion…

Posted by: bertzel | February 9, 2011 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Vote out all Republicans, they are detrimental to the health and welfare of America and American citizens.

Posted by: nallcando2


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Actually, all Conservatives and most of the Independents didn't buy your bull or anyone else on the Liberal side. Thus, your party was whacked last November.

Keep up that particular narrative for the next election - we're happy to take the rest of Congress and the WH out of your incapable hands.

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

e30m42 rants"

don't you know the difference between climate and weather?"


You very obviousl don't know the difference because there IS NO DIFFERENCE:

Climate
–noun
1. the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years.
2. a region or area characterized by a given climate: to move to a warm climate.
3. the prevailing attitudes, standards, or environmental conditions of a group, period, or place: a climate of political unrest.

Posted by: thomas_pearson46 | February 9, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Toles,

For once to your discredit and with myself it's rare to gig you. But neough is enough for some things.

The word CONSERVATIVE left side oped folks use all to ofter has become nothing more than a ultra liberals substitute word for CORPORATIST that reasonalble people know pledge no allegiances to anyone or any political party outside corporatist interests and corporatism.

But anything to lay all the blame on every conservative in the U S A like Prell SHAMpoo, "a little dab will do ya." so smear it on thick.

Come on....that's like yakitup lush limburger blaming every liberal in the U S A for all the problems in Washington....it's pure fresh dropped cow paddies and people with a half a functioning brain knows it.

Liberal and conservative INDEPENDENTS sure as hell knows it's left wing right wing feed-lot cow paddy....and know where the vast majority of blame lies, ie, on the radical left and radical right sides of politics.

At least those are the two places I "toss my blanket" over.

Posted by: thomas_pearson46 | February 9, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Look no further than the multibillionaire Koch brothers, they have been giving money to our Representatives and lobbyist. Not to garner real change that would help America and Americans, but to push there own agenda of deregulation of the E.P.A. and blasting Global warming with false claims and even faultier science. The Tea baggers are there baby. They "are" oil tycoons after all, giving out a million here and there, mostly to Republicans and a few blue dog Democrats, whom suddenly see things there way. How many times have you heard the Republicans cry that we need more Corporate Welfare to create jobs and, don't forget the "Trickle down economy", that was instrumental in srinking our middle class. It didn't work then and it will not work now... Whom do the Republicans blame the economy on.. ah yes Obama. Forgetting of course that they were in office for 8 years and GW Bush spent more money than any President in America History other than Reagan, as well as grew Government even larger than Reagan or any other President in history. They all ways blame it on the poor or government workers, or unions or teachers. They are cutting off the poorest of our Americans to save 32 billion while giving a 400 billion tax break to the elite top. They have vetoed bills that would benefit companies who kept there jobs here, and allowed Banks to grow larger with little to no oversight. Vote out all Republicans, they are detrimental to the health and welfare of America and American citizens.

Posted by: nallcando2 | February 9, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

How about ending our "job-killing" prohibition on prostitution and organized crime while we're at it?
I can't decide whether those who have usurped the term "right" are pushing for anarchy or a theocracy, but it doesn't sound like a very pleasant place to be.

Posted by: Capn0ok1 | February 9, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Do I detect a certain smugness?

Meanwhile, in Fairbanks, AK, the high for today, Feb 9, is forecast to be 27 F; the high for Jan 2, 2011 was 41 F. To which I expect the answer will be (screamed with abundant foam and spittle): "don't you know the difference between climate and weather?"

Or will it be about sunspots?

Posted by: e30m42

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Actually, a helpful post for the climate change team. I lived in Fairbanks for 4 years - don't ever remember it being that warm in Jan/Feb. My last January there it went down to -80F (that's not wind chill) which was also quite unusual. Normally we drifted between -20F and 0 as I recall.

Touche.'

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"Add to this the genuine humor and disbelief expressed by most Americans to Gore's and others statements that our cold and snowy winter is caused by, and evidence of, Global Warming has been the making of a very bad week or so.

Posted by: dalyplanet

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"Very insightful analysis as usual dalyplanet! That has to make Mr. Toles a bit grumpy; I should be more understanding of his feelings. Mea culpa Tom - regrets - pararanger22.

I'm off to many meetings today. Keep up the fire!

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 2:55 AM"

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Do I detect a certain smugness?

Meanwhile, in Fairbanks, AK, the high for today, Feb 9, is forecast to be 27 F; the high for Jan 2, 2011 was 41 F. To which I expect the answer will be (screamed with abundant foam and spittle): "don't you know the difference between climate and weather?"

Or will it be about sunspots?

Posted by: e30m42 | February 9, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

first, you need to understand we aren't here for your entertainment. You don't like it, go somewhere else.

You sure aren't posting much in the way of brain farts.

Posted by: taroya |

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The point of your second sentence (and the childishness) makes me wonder if you clearly understood why you were perennially the biggest kid in 7th grade....

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

When responding to your attackers on the right, keep in mind this favorite quotation from H.L. Mencken.
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public". You might add to that line: "right wing".

Posted by: merhoff | February 9, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

TT -- One of your commenters (maybe more, but I can't get through all of them. There's only twenty-four hours in a day – unless of course you're on Pluto or Syracon, and it seems that on those planets scientists have determined that the length of their days are not like ours at all. However, since it's only scientists saying this and not some corporate-coddling clown on Fox TV, many said commenters may just decide to assign that fact to their much-loathed, [pronounced low-ᵺed] growing pile of leftist due-due, along with climate change, Palin’s ignorance, and the certainty of greed among the Fortune 500 CEO’s.) suggests that you've been presenting a bit more angst than when you started your blog-and-ranting show. One of them assigned blame to your relationship with a pea-owed "significant other," which is - as you know from being a leftist, a Dem, and living off the Kaplan t_ttie – amounts to pretty much nothing less than code for you-know-what-or-can-guess-what. As a fellow commenter, I too share the kind concern of said others, and suspect that your touchy-ness results not from tut-tuts from your significant other, but from reading the hare-brained comments from your detractors. Now, here’s what I am suggesting, TT, in order to regain that equanimity of emotion for which you’ve earned fame and countless kudos; and can return to the good ol' Tom Toles that we’ve come to love and admire: only read my stuff. See if that doesn’t work.

Posted by: dudeupnorth | February 9, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, an unpursuasive rant and an equally boring post from the Left. Find something to debate that actually matters.

Posted by: pararanger22
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first, you need to understand we aren't here for your entertainment. You don't like it, go somewhere else.

You sure aren't posting much in the way of brain farts.

Posted by: taroya | February 9, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Best bumper sticker I ever saw:

"You trust me to raise a child, but you don't think I can make a choice?"


Stinking tbags! They ran on the premise that they would 'fix' the economy (they ought to, it was teh repubs that killed it), and would create jobs.

So far, not word one about jobs, or fixing the economy. NOTHING.

fools you are that voted for them. Surely you did't really believe that rubes had the brains to run this government, did you?

Posted by: taroya | February 9, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Their faux populism notwithstanding, the Republican/Tea Party nexus inevitably comes across as a humorless bunch of obstructionists. All the real political wit is on the other side (witness Toles, Stewart, Colbert, et al), which speaks volumes about the underlying political arguments. Laughter is ultimately an expression of sanity. Get a grip GOTP.

Posted by: dave_inglehart | February 9, 2011 10:36 AM | Report abuse

FergusonFoont wrote:

["Republicans are really great in using heavily focus-grouped words and phrases to help rationalize their behavior. One of my favorites is to oppose popular legislation or essential treaties because these bills and treaties are "flawed." They just LOVE that word "flawed." I'd love to see someone insist that they provide an example of a perfect bill or treaty (or even point out any of the flaws they so object to), but that would spoil their fun."]

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The hypocrisy from the Left in Mr. Tole's rant and the blog posts from his diaspora is unbelievable.

The GOP messaging is clearly working but it's also part of any strategic communication from any party.

"Really? What are you trying to say Ranger, that the Democrats do it too?"

Why yes. Harkening back to some of the messaging from Democrats, to whit:

1 - Monica Lewinsky affair? No problem - "move on".
2 - Iraq War? "Bush Lied".
3 - Elect Obama? "We are the ones we have been waiting for"
4 - Bash the GOP Congress even though you're husband IS fooling around? "Extreme, Right Wing Conspiracy."

Clinton was an extreme focus group guy too. Not sure who Obama listens to, actually.

Anyway, an unpursuasive rant and an equally boring post from the Left. Find something to debate that actually matters.

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse


Creative Destruction?

Why not try a little on Wall Street?

Let the zombie banks implode, re-organize under bankruptcy, and re-enter the competitive market.

Tea for two?

Posted by: HumanistPatriot | February 9, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Right on as usual Tom. Keep up the good cartoons and words.

Posted by: caseyb1 | February 9, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are really great in using heavily focus-grouped words and phrases to help rationalize their behavior. One of my favorites is to oppose popular legislation or essential treaties because these bills and treaties are "flawed." They just LOVE that word "flawed." I'd love to see someone insist that they provide an example of a perfect bill or treaty (or even point out any of the flaws they so object to), but that would spoil their fun.

This weird idea of theirs that business should not be regulated by government, though, is really a strange one. I don't think our Founders would have agreed.

Posted by: FergusonFoont | February 9, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

The one thing that government does that business does not like is to protect our yards from trash that others produce. Of course they would profit if they could just dump the trash in the street (or your yard). But the law says no.

What bold interference in commerce.

What good for the rest of us.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | February 9, 2011 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Tom

Love your cartoons. How about some on the new congress' #1 priority.. Getting between a woman and the doctor during reproduction issues yes abortion. Apparently the GOP feels that women do not have the mentality / morality to make a good decision and would like to have O'Reilly, the Pope and the Westboro Baptists make this decision for them. Ideally Bohner and Issa would like to have a cop listen to women's conversations (sorta like the religious police in Iran)
Keep those cartoons coming!

Posted by: vanwahlgren | February 9, 2011 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Any business disturbed by perceived 'uncertainty' about O'care should consider the discussion around the kitchen table when Dad has a bad cough and the family has no health insurance. Just a cold or cancer?

It used to be said GM spent more on health costs in its cars than steel--THAT'S uncertainty. I would think business would love to unload the uncertainty of health costs onto government in a heartbeat.

Posted by: DougMUSN | February 9, 2011 5:39 AM | Report abuse

when will wapo use the indian cartoonists instead of you...

Posted by: DwightCollins | February 9, 2011 4:21 AM | Report abuse

If you currently have pre-existing conditions like me that have prevented you from being able to qualify for health insurance for at least six months you will have coverage options under new health care. Check "Wise Health Insurance" to find how to get quality insurance for dollars.

Posted by: martyqick | February 9, 2011 3:27 AM | Report abuse

Companies will be barred from instituting caps on coverage when your costs for treatments goes up due to sickness, you can now get insurance with out caps on coverage at "Wise Health Insurance" search them online.

Posted by: martyqick | February 9, 2011 3:25 AM | Report abuse

Add to this the genuine humor and disbelief expressed by most Americans to Gore's and others statements that our cold and snowy winter is caused by, and evidence of, Global Warming has been the making of a very bad week or so.

Posted by: dalyplanet

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Very insightful analysis as usual dalyplanet! That has to make Mr. Toles a bit grumpy; I should be more understanding of his feelings. Mea culpa Tom - regrets - pararanger22.

I'm off to many meetings today. Keep up the fire!

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 2:55 AM | Report abuse

To Tom Toles Defense...
My aren't you the Fussy Miss Tiddle Mouse.
Has Mister Frog dirtied your clean floor?

Maybe you should go back to England where nothing has changed for the last five hundred years and the people still live in straw roof houses.

I guess you just want us to be a Third World Nation like England with its poverty level middle class.

Pip Pip and all that rot.
Dave

Posted by: OckamsRazor

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Good one Dave. I like mice and frogs so I'm okay with the slam.

Actually, I live in the UK now. There is no middle-class poverty here as you suggest. Again, if you would pay attention or use Google, you could find out/verify that the UN poverty level is for those who make less than $1.50 per day. None of that going on here.

By the way, the houses are made of 'thatch' not 'straw' and the remaining ones are much sought after; quite a niche market. I live in a 19th century Georgian house with a beautiful view of the city of Bath.

And I'm an American war veteran on business here. Born in Phoenix and raised in Dallas, Texas. Lots of Conservative blood in me. The UK is a wonderful place - but, with apologies to Dorothy - there is no place like home.

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 2:52 AM | Report abuse

PrairieDog60,

Typical Wisconsin Liberal rant.

1 - The $800M belonged to the American taxpayer (including the citizens of WI). Do you think that is free money? (Matrix Moment: Do you think that is air you are breathing?).

That being said, even though I'm a Conservative, I am ga-ga about high speed rail and any kind of rail so I would agree with you in principle on this point.

2 - Setback limits. I understand the argument but I'm not sure what is reasonable here. How much noise and or other effects from wind turbines is acceptable to a homeowner? Is the Governor's position unreasonable or is your argument a 'dam the torpedoes' (wind turbines at all costs) type position? I am not opposed to wind turbines but they aren't the panacea that T. Boone Pickens seems to illustrate. These turbines are all over Germany and there are a few here in the UK. I think we're missing the point though: wave energy is the (pun intended) wave of the future. Tons of free/more predictable energy on our shores.

3 - Wetlands development. You know, I don't disagree with you in principle. But your argument is a bit incomplete. If the legislation was valid, it couldn't ignore existing wetland law or it would be immediately challenged in court. So using the word 'ignore' doesn't fit here. Tell us more.

No empathy here about cutting back State workers jobs. Democrats dish those out in the bunches in order to create a voter dependency for the Party. Very few folks in either party are going to weep about government job cut-backs. GOP has the chair now; time for Dems to shut up and row until the next election.

Now that we know you live in (or have an interest in) WI, I'll be glad to follow their employment news in the future. As I've mentioned before, the GOP came into office in November with only one true mandate from Conservatives: put up or shut up. If they don't deliver, you'll be happily enjoying a Democrat victory in 2012 whilst the Conservatives put their eggs in another basket (one without the letters G-O-P).

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Ranger

I think Mr. Tole's rants have been particularly sharp this week because, while Harry Houdini Ried very publicly stated clearly in late Dec. 2010 that a climate change energy bill was dead, (as reported at the WaPo) Ried knew full well that EPA wonks were planning to enact the same plan as a pollution control measure without the need for any legislative acts. Unfortunately for the true believers, the new House has started legislation to remove CO2 from the EPA's very recent regulation and thus preventing change in US energy policy without legislation.

Add to this the genuine humor and disbelief expressed by most Americans to Gore's and others statements that our cold and snowy winter is caused by, and evidence of, Global Warming has been the making of a very bad week or so.

Posted by: dalyplanet | February 9, 2011 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Tole's rants have been particularly sharp this week...blood in his humor. I think perhaps his significant other must be mad at him for forgetting to change out the black light bulbs or he broke a lava lamp or something.
Posted by: pararanger22

To Tom Toles Defense...
My aren't you the Fussy Miss Tiddle Mouse.
Has Mister Frog dirtied your clean floor?

Maybe you should go back to England where nothing has changed for the last five hundred years and the people still live in straw roof houses.

I guess you just want us to be a Third World Nation like England with its poverty level middle class.

Pip Pip and all that rot.
Dave

Posted by: OckamsRazor | February 9, 2011 2:26 AM | Report abuse

So which is it Mr. Toles:

Uncertainty
or
Uncertainly

??

Don't you have an editor?

Grammar mistakes are pretty much forgiven around here in the blogosphere but not when it is central to your argument (even a weak argument).

Mr. Tole's rants have been particularly sharp this week...blood in his humor. I think perhaps his significant other must be mad at him for forgetting to change out the black light bulbs or he broke a lava lamp or something.

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan never did anything for me. In my sixty plus years, Ronald Reagan never did anything for me. Or for my family. Or for my friends. Or for anybody I ever met. Ronald Reagan never did anything for millions of poor and middle-class Americans. He was a B actor who could never quite see what was really going on in the world. He was a voice for the rich. He was a face for the entitled. He was a puppet on strings. Like Pinocchio with Geppetto, dancing for his master, but never dancing for me. Just trying to get the script right before his next performance. He was a second rate actor, a second rate governor, and a second rate president. Put him on your pedestals, sing your loyal praise, bathe him in all your glory, and worship him to your grave. Ronald Reagan never did anything for me.

Posted by: JD76 | February 8, 2011 11:01 PM

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Spot on testimonial by JD76, representative of what Liberal's really want and why they fail.

It's all about what they get from government...that 'hand out' mentality.

blahblahblah..."[govt] never did anything for me."

The majority of Americans are hard working; want to make it on their own.

JD76 and the rest of the Liberal diaspora want to pick your pocket (more taxes) for a hand out either for themselves (they'll never admit that) or for others (sealing more Democrat votes).

Posted by: pararanger22 | February 9, 2011 1:33 AM | Report abuse

The adage is "Starve a fever, feed a cold."

yer welcome, JD


Posted by: chaunceygardener | February 9, 2011 12:33 AM | Report abuse

What's even better is a Republican governor who runs on the whole "creating jobs" mantra, saying the previous Democratic administration was a "job killing" administration. And shortly after winning, this new governor begins the process of doing some "job killing" himself by;

1) Turning down 800 million dollars in stimulus money for high-speed rail.

2) Increasing setback limits for the location of wind turbines, essentially making it impossible for a land owner to put a turbine on his/her property, driving away any investment/building in the wind energy sector (thankfully, this one looks like it may not hold up).

3) Hurrying special legislation through the legislature, then signing it, all to allow ONE developer to ignore wetland laws and regulations so he could build a commercial development, only to learn a few days later that the anchor store for the development, Bass Pro Shops, backed out because...you guessed it...they will NOT build a store on filled-in wetlands (they know the value of these wetlands for wildlife).

So, our new governor is doing REALLY well at creating jobs so far. AND, he hasn't even started cutting state workers' jobs yet! That's coming in a couple weeks.
Welcome to Wisconsin.

Posted by: PrairieDog60 | February 8, 2011 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"Screen(ing) chemicals for potential endochrine disruptors," is a BAD thing? Well, of course it is, for producers of endochrine disruptors. And producers of endochrine disruptors may create some extremely well-paying jobs.

What I don't understand is, why the same logic is not applied to drug laws. After all, decriminalization of drugs would allow the drug trade to flourish.
Oh. Oops. Which would also increase supply... which would decrease demand... which would actually reduce per-unit profits. Never mind, maintaining criminalization is a GOOD thing for maintaining high profits in the drug economy while also maintaining high profits in the prison system. As are tightening immigration laws. Enter the Incarceration Corporation of America.

Yahoo!

Posted by: jonroesler | February 8, 2011 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Feed the fever of corporate greed, starve the cold of working class America's reality.

Posted by: JD76 | February 8, 2011 11:05 PM | Report abuse

I would have spelled "fav" "fave", but that's just me.

So... Is everything liberals don't like now a "Job-Creator"?

Posted by: chaunceygardener | February 8, 2011 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Tom, why don't you publish your salary in your next cartoon so the people who deliver the old Wash Po at 5:00 AM can see how much they make relative to you?

Posted by: jornolibist | February 8, 2011 7:31 PM | Report abuse

As usual, you're right Tom: it's all linguistics.

I never understood why the Dems didn't respond to the "death panel" thing by converting it to the "insurance panels!"

~eric.

Posted by: 2ericc | February 8, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Tom, yes those monied interests are demanding odd things....

Like PIRATES each in charge of a section of the US Ship, demanding immunity or more control over policy....
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Like Hijackers with a selfish and maybe not-so-selfish agenda - based on race or family.
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It's easy to destroy something, harder to build it up.

Posted by: Tony-KS | February 8, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

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