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Obama Leads McCain in New Va. Poll

Tim Craig

A new poll by Suffolk University shows Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) with a double-digit lead over GOP nominee John McCain in Virginia.

Obama draws 51 percent to McCain's 39 percent, although the poll's sample skews heavily toward the Democrats, which may be inflating Obama's margin.

"Barack Obama has built a coalition of suburban DC area progressives from the north, African-American voters from the south, and young voters statewide," said David Paleologos, director of the Political Research Center at Suffolk University in Boston. "That broad-based support suggests a 44-year Republican run in the Old Dominion State, dating back to Lyndon Johnson's victory in 1964, is in jeopardy."

The poll conflicts with one last week by Mason Dixon that showed McCain leading Obama by 3 points in Virginia.

The Suffolk poll also shows Democratic Senate candidate Mark R. Warner beating GOP candidate James S. Gilmore by 33 points, similar to the advantage Warner held in the Mason-Dixon poll.

By Tim Craig  |  October 6, 2008; 1:00 PM ET
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Seems the results are in, the most electable republican ticket would be Huckabee/Palin, not McCain/Palin this is according to a new poll at watchdebate.com nearly 4 to 1 people would preffer Huckabee/Palin over McCain/Palin. Ha The RNC got it way wrong this time.
http://www.mccanes.com/watchdebatevp.html

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

See Actor Jon Voight, Go nuts on Obama. Assuses him of all kinds of stuff. He was on fox last night, He went into a rant http://www.huckabeeshow.com

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Keep Palin out there, the more she speaks about HOT TOPIC ISSUES LIKE AYERS, the Bluer the Red States become....JUST LIKE VIRGINIA. And the race is tightening in ARIZONA AS WELL!

Posted by: FLORIDA VOTER | October 6, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The way to the whitehouse is POLICIES.

McCain has bad POLICIES.

Obama has good POLICIES.

It is obvious that McCain knows these facts, and is trying his best to distract voters from the POLICIES.

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I dare anyone who supports McCain to give me a POLICY that is good for most Americans.
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Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I am a high functioning moron and prop for the mcbush campaign. I attack like a pit bull and I think the earth is 6000 years old.

Posted by: Palin | October 6, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I'd find McCain at 39% hard to believe, except a SurveyUSA Poll has him at 43% with Obama at 53% for a ten-point difference.

SurveyUSA had even more eye-opening comments:

There is movement among men, where immediately after the GOP convention, McCain led by 10, and where today Obama leads by 11.

There is movement among whites, where McCain's once 22-point lead is today reduced to single digits.

There is movement among the well-to-do, where today for the first time Obama leads.
There is movement among pro-choice voters, where Obama's lead has doubled since August.

McCain no longer leads in any region of the state. In Northeastern VA, which includes the DC suburbs, Obama leads by 24 points. In Central Virginia, home of the Confederate White House, the Museum of the Confederacy and Appomattox, Obama today leads by 8. In Southeastern Virginia, Obama leads by 11. In the Shenandoah, where John McCain led by 24 points one month ago, Obama and McCain today tie.


Can the McCain/Palin campaign really be tanking so much?

Posted by: NoVA | October 6, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

just look at your 401K and tell me what would you like to talk about. VA for change

Posted by: jerome | October 6, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I am from Arizona, and I haven't talked with anyone who is pro-McCain. I am hoping that our state will do the sensible thing, and ask John to go quietly back to the Senate, and simply tip his hat to the better candidate, Barack Obama. John McCain showed his "wisdom," by picking a person for vice president who in no way, shape, or form, is ready to take over the presidency. Sometimes a "maverick" is simply dead wrong.

Posted by: Lewis | October 6, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

To the comment about Jon Voight going off about Obama. He probably has PTSD from appearing in the movie Coming Home with Jane Fonda. (Apologies but I'm sure Jane would laugh with me all things considered)

Posted by: Alohaakamai | October 6, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Hi, the more I blather, the more Obama gets ahead in the polls...

Posted by: sarah pitbull | October 6, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Virginia! This poll seems optimistic and then some, but it is good to think that the Old Dominion may be one of those states that votes as if it can think ... and those of us who know the state, know there are a lot of really quick, capable, well meaning people out there! The Rove-Republican propaganda artists need to hear loud and clear that they're dirty politics as usual style won't work as well as it did for Bush anymore.

Thanks, Virginia and other states moving toward blue!

Caldwell Young


Caldwell Young

Posted by: Caldwell Young | October 6, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

policies of John McCain which are superior to Obama (in addition to the fact that obama is a flat-out fraud):

health policy - mccain's addresses across the board costs while obama's doesn't - obamiden's plan will increase the overall cost of medicine on the insured and uninsured alike while increasing the total number of uninsured (businesses will be forced to hire more part-time help with no benefits)

foreign policy - mccain will hold the line in iraq/iran and listen to his generals in afghanistan

tax policy/the economy/federal deficit - mccain gives a flat-tax option and levels the playing field to attract businesses to the USA and create jobs in so doing - obama attempts wealth redistibutions - initially he claims he will use the income of families making 250K for more payroll taxes - businesses cannot afford this so they will simply cut the number of employees whose entire family will hit that threshold (yes, that's right - the 250K is family income not individual income) - therefore, the tax increase will not raise revenue for social security but will lose tax revenue for the US treasury - then obama's solution will be to lower the 250K family thresh-hold lower and lower and lower to increase federal revenue and "save" social security - obama will do NOTHING to curb federal spending except increase it - mccain's energy plan will create more jobs and lower energy costs - obama's plan will increase energy costs so high that the average family will need subsidization

social issues - obama will force americans to allow their tax dollars to be used for late term abortions - mccain will apppoint judges who respect the constitution and the roles of the branches of government

lies of OBAMA;

1) broke HIS OWN pledge to finance campaign ethically
2) playing race card filled with race-baiting lies in spanish-speaking ads (100 times worse than anything seen before)
3) pretending palin did no reforming in Alaska
4) lying about demoCRITES being true cause of housing crisis (he took SO much money from fannie/freddie)
5) lying about his record with Israel
6) Lying about his prior positions on late-term abortions
7) lying about john mccain's record - an honorable American hero
8) lying about his tax reform plan - how can you decrease taxes for 95% of Americans when 30% are not even paying income tax ???
9) lying about the 250,000 dollars threshold to increase taxes - that's not individual income - it is family income (see the fine print)
10) lying about his own prior positions on the surge in Iraq

MCCAIN / PALIN 2008

Posted by: jothemedicaldoctor | October 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Wonderful news! It looks like it is going to be a landslide for Obama.

Way to go!

Posted by: Sandy | October 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, it's beginnin' to look like a real butt kickin' happenin' in Virginia, gosh darn it, bless their hearts! The only problem at this point is that Sarah can't find the "right" magazine or newspaper to "turn the page" on. IT"S THE ECONOMY!!! So here's a "shout out" to the dwindling numbers of Republic's voters who still think their ticket stands a chance. My "101"K is determining who this former republican will vote for. And you're darn tootin' it won't be for John and Sarah!

Posted by: rderrera126 | October 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU ACTUALLY LIKE MCCAIN YOU ARE ONE OF FOUR TYPES OF PEOPLE:

1) You are wealthy and powerful. You make alot of money each year, off the backs of the people you push around. You are probably a CEO, General Manager, or Owner of a corporation. You do not care what happens to America and the poor as long as you get your ends. You have voted before and you probably voted for Bush twice.

2) You hate Obama. You hate him becuase of the jealousy of his ivy league education, his skin color, his positive attitude, his wife, his outlook on life, or his taste in music. Whichever of these it is, it pisses you off alot. When you are sitting around watching Nascar or the NFL and drinking beer, you get annoyed at the political commercials. These commercials taught you everything you know about the campaign. You probably will not even vote.

3) You are a religious nutcase. You have crazy beliefs that force you to hate anyone who think differently then you. You will not be happy until everyone in this country looks, thinks, and acts like you do. McCain is not great, but at least he picked a wacko Vice President that agrees with what you like.

4) You are an idiot. One of the other three types of McCain supporters tricked you into beleiving McCain will help you somehow. You probably think that Obama is going to raise your taxes, screw up your healthcare, or allow terrorists into the US. It doesn't matter if these things are all lies, because you are too stupid to realize a lie when they tell it too you.

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

1) broke HIS OWN pledge to finance campaign ethically

LIE: He said he would discuss this idea with the GOP candidate, McCain never returned his calls, and he didn't need the taxpayers money. This one thing saved the american taxpayers 90 million dollars, thank you Mr. Obama.

4) lying about demoCRITES being true cause of housing crisis (he took SO much money from fannie/freddie)

LIE: Aks Graham, McCains economic advisor, who deregulated fannie mae and freddy mac. He will tell you "Rick Davis" because they WORKED TO TOGETHER TO GET IT DONE.

5) lying about his record with Israel

LIE: This is not a fact, you just added it in because you can not come up with anything factual.

6) Lying about his prior positions on late-term abortions

LIE: You are way too vague here. Please be more specif with your lies, so that I can point you flaws out better.

7) lying about john mccain's record - an honorable American hero

LIE: What did he lie about? Please tell us, because this makes no sense.

8) lying about his tax reform plan - how can you decrease taxes for 95% of Americans when 30% are not even paying income tax ???

LIE: It is easy when you understand that everyone gets a tax return. Did you go to the same college where McCain learned economics?

9) lying about the 250,000 dollars threshold to increase taxes - that's not individual income - it is family income

LIE: It is not a lie if it is written right in front of your face. You can not call someone a liar because you are too stupid to read the fine print.


10) lying about his own prior positions on the surge in Iraq

LIE: He was always against the surge. He never lied about it.

You are an idiot. If this is everything yoiu have against Obama, then I understand why Obama is wiping the floor with your leader.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Tim, WoW, you nail it. It should be published somewhere as a column.

Posted by: Jim | October 6, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"health policy - mccain's addresses across the board costs while obama's doesn't - obamiden's plan will increase the overall cost of medicine on the insured and uninsured alike while increasing the total number of uninsured (businesses will be forced to hire more part-time help with no benefits) "

LIE

McCain's health insurance will cost more, cost the government more, costs employers more, and 20 million MORE people will be without healthcare in ONE year.

This is fact. Look up any website that has reviewed the two plans and they wil agree.

You are so far off the truth. Please go back, reread the policies, and try again. You fail.

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama is an American Hating Empty Suit.

You followers have blinders on.

Do you even know about economics? Just a bunch of no brain having liberals.

This race is not over.

Posted by: Liberals Suck | October 6, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has proven to be an erratic and deceitful candidate. His behavior and judgement are highly questionable and important; we cannot have loose cannon at our helm, period. His trophy pitbull with lipstick is totally embarrassing to our election process. Geeze, how can anyone stand to listen to her whiney, high-pitched voice and her slanderous lies?? McCain used extremely poor judgement in picking her for his veep. How many investigations of Sarah Palin are now going on in Alaska?? Please everyone, remember her "first dude", Todd Palin was totally against the United States of America in his efforts to secede from from the USA!! Sarah Palin supported the organization of which Todd was a member. Todd and Sarah are the ones that have been and are anti-American and have no business whatsoever anywhere near OUR White House.

Posted by: NinaK | October 6, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

You should vote for John McCain if:

> You want more war.
> You want more deregulation so our dollar is worthless.
> You want Palin running the country if McCain passes away.
> You want the world to continue to hate the U.S.
> You want our jobs to continue to go overseas.
> You want pro life so women have no choice even with rape.
> You want larger tax cuts for the rich and for big oil.
> You want to privatize social security so Wall Street can prosper.
> You want less people to afford health insurance.
> You want to amend the constitution banning gay rights.
> You want to increase the racial and ethnic divides in our country.*

* On this last point, note that at the Republican National Convention only 1.5% of the representatives were black (just 36 people out of 2,380 representatives). In contrast, at the Democratic National Convention, 24.5% were black (1087 people out of 4436 representatives).

According to the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, this is the lowest representation of minorities at a major political party convention in 40 years.

For reference, according to the latest U.S. Census, blacks comprise 12.4 percent of the U.S. population.

For the past six years there has not been a single black Republican governor, senator, or representative in the U.S. Congress.

I'll let all of you draw your own conclusions on this glaring disparity.

(F.Y.I., I'm a white person, and I'm appalled at this. The strength of our country is rooted in our diversity... something which the Republicans are clearly trying to reverse. It's shameful. And, yes, un-American.)

Posted by: Rebecca Barton | October 6, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"Obama is an American Hating Empty Suit.

You followers have blinders on.

Do you even know about economics? Just a bunch of no brain having liberals.

This race is not over."

I know enough about the economics to know that McCain's policies are RETARDED. He admits that he knows "very little" about the economy. The video is on utube if you want proof.

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Todd Palin and his wife, Sarah Palin are haters of the United States of America and despise our institutions. They wanted/want to secede from the USA. Their leader condemned America by saying "God damned America and her institutions"!!

You McCain-Pilan followers have blinders on.

Do you even know about economics? Just a bunch of brainless, ignorant, and uninformed, trailer-trash, low-class people. This race is not over.

John McCain publicly admitted he knows very little about economics and the economy. His campaign has been riddled with his poor judgement and decisions and his outright craziness! McCain never met his dad's and grandfather's expectations and has one huge inferiority complex!!

Posted by: Liberals Suck
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Posted by: NO McCain/No Palin | October 6, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have done what no Democrat has done in my lifetime...

They have boosted the Democratic Party to new heights. Between the bad policies of Bush, the promise of more bad actions by McCain, and the various smears and fears, that they spread... it's no wonder, there's a backlash against them.

Posted by: wolf | October 6, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Todd Palin and his wife, Sarah Palin are haters of the United States of America and despise our institutions. They wanted/want to secede from the USA. Their leader condemned America by saying "God damned America and her institutions"!!

You McCain-Pilan followers have blinders on.

Do you even know about economics? Just a bunch of brainless, ignorant, and uninformed, trailer-trash, low-class people. This race is not over.

John McCain publicly admitted he knows very little about economics and the economy. His campaign has been riddled with his poor judgement and decisions and his outright craziness! McCain never met his dad's and grandfather's expectations and has one huge inferiority complex!!

We are sick and tired of what the Repubs have done to our country and are not puttin up with their lies, slander, and dirty politics!!

Posted by: NO Trophy Pitbull with Lipstick and NO McCain | October 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

It is 2:55 PM and the market is down 700 points and what are the republicans talking about? My house is worth 60K less today than a year ago, my 401K is down 30%; where is yours and what are you going to do about it?

Posted by: jerome | October 6, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

In a word..."yay"!

Posted by: Cal | October 6, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

jothemedicaldoctor:

Sorry, I stopped listening at 'Obamiden' Please do make more of an effort to make sense and less of an attempt at wit.

Posted by: Cru | October 6, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Close-up on juvenile justice
Author, former offender among speakers
By Jennifer Vanasco News Office
November 6, 1997

Children who kill are called "super predators," "people with no conscience," "feral pre-social beings" -- and "adults."

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says "We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn't suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?"

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop. The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center's monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago. The event is free and open to the public.

Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a "kind and just parent" for children in crisis.

One hundred years later, the system is "overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist," Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

"Students and faculty explore these issues in the classroom, but it is an internal conversation," Obama said. "We know that issues like juvenile justice impact the city of Chicago, this nation and -- directly or indirectly -- this campus. This panel gives students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it."


http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml

Posted by: Michelle Obama | October 6, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama does not have more experience as Biden. This is the trouble we see if Obama-Biden wins in November. It should be the other way around!

Posted by: dirty setup | October 6, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, markets are down 700 points again today and you're wondering what republicans are doing about it? WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOU TO QUIT VOTING DEMOCRAT SO THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN! It's the fault of democrats that we're in this mess to begin with. Twit.

Posted by: Michelle Obama | October 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The demoCRAPS have done what no republican has done in my lifetime...

Caused the second-worst market crash in world history with the sub-prime mortgage crisis. Oooo... sign me up for some of that.

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Matter of opinion, "Michelle"

Look who's manning the wheels at the moment, if it's so easy for you to point fingers, imagine what the populace must think with the GOP at the helm when a record slide happened. Blame the Democratic party all you want, but GOP was in power when it happened, and a majority of GOP rejected the first bill resulting in the slide. When people's retirement depends on it, they're not interested in who helped lay the foundation (since it was a combination of both parties) they look at who touched the ball last - and that was the majority 'no' vote from the repubs.

dirty setup:

I think not. I'd be more afraid of the one with out of date ideas and all the clout and know-how to pull the strings of corruption.

Posted by: Cru | October 6, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

It's really a shame that my party caused this stock market mess... I'm voting republican.

Posted by: jerome | October 6, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Rebecca Barton,
When you see the hatred displayed toward any African-American who admits to being a conservative, you can understand why so few dare to speak up. Conservatism is better for anyone who is willing to work and many who can't work. Liberalism makes people into helpless victims.
Liberals can call me an idiot, but they would have to agree (if they knew me) that I am not wealthy or powerful, and I don't hate anyone. I wish I could vote for Obama because I'd love to discredit race-baiters on both sides, but think his liberalism is bad for America.

Posted by: John Hallowell | October 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

My problem is with the people that still don't get it with the neocon/republicans.Can there really be that many "BEVERLY HILLBILLY TYPES" living in the USA as reflected in the polls? God help us if there are. Personally I will vote a straight democratic ticket this time.

Posted by: zeke49 | October 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

It seems that John McCain's campaign is plummeting as quickly as the stock market. Hey John! Why don't you eject now? You can't get any lower without crashing.

Posted by: ThePhotogsBlog | October 6, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

John Hallowell:

Hard work loses it's meaning the more the disparity between rich and poor grows as the GOP insists on more deregulation. When the CEO makes in a year what would take your average worker a decade, and yet the average price of goods is rising and money is 'too tight' to give you a raise to keep pace. One just might become skeptical of Republican's brand of lax oversight.
When healthcare is scrutinized for any hint of improper filing to deny your claim, and the provider won't accept you with a pre-existing condition, one might begin to wonder if a free market economy is really the best answer for all of our troubles.

The real helpless victims are the prey of conservative policies.

Posted by: Cru | October 6, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm from Virginia and we are working like crazy to turn this state blue! We've had enough terrible Republican leadership for our tastes.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Southern Girl | October 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

YOU TELL"EM TIM...Just listened to McCain talk on CNN...still going after Obama on non issues...Keep blathering, McCain...you're doing us a favor...

Posted by: billf11 | October 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Unless something really extraordinary happens, McCain should have no trouble getting out ahead if he gives white voters what they yearn: A psychological way out of their perceived need to support a black man.

By consistently portraying Obama as a foreign black Muslim terrorist, McCain can accomplish what he needs within days. The intellectual capacity of the voting public cannot be underestimated.

Posted by: Domingo Tavella | October 6, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Let me make sure I have this correct! John McCain is clueless about how many houses he owns. Sarah Palin has no idea what she reads to stay abreast of current events! These seem to be the most basic of things to know.If they can't answere these simple questions , how can they possibly solve the complex issues facing this country?

Posted by: zeke49 | October 6, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain is so toast he's burnt. Honorable campaign eh old man. Can't erase you caused the Keating 5 and SNL scandal and now the wall street bailout, you flailed like an idiot in the past 2 weeks. And on top of that you picked a high school cheerleader wannabe as your running mate. How does it feel flushing your integrity, Mr. Pow, lobbyist, war mongering, Bush clone?

Posted by: Lone McCain Blogger | October 6, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I am a Virginia native. Not just a Northern Virginian native. Let me let you know why John McCain will lose. This is due to his lack of support from Congressman Goode in Southern Virginia (Franklin County) this is the largest county (in land mass) in the state of VA. If you understand VA you know Virgil Goode, he is often referred to as a Far right winger, but he does not support McCain he is supporting Bob Barr. This shows up in the polls. So, if McCain is not getting votes from Southern VA. He cannot depend on votes in any town located near colleges. Guess what? The largest population of colleges exist in Southern VA. These colleges will offset the local towns peoples vote. He will not win in VA Beach too many African Americans, yes i know the Navy is there. Unfortunately, the Navy does not over ride the VA Beach, Hampton Roads, Norfolk area which is stacked with AFrican Americans. Have you ever been to Richmond. Enough said. Finally, there is northern Virginia where he would have one except for those liberals and colleges students that sorround the area. This is why McCain will lose VA that's a guarantee. The turnout in VA is going to be absolutely insane. You have no clue if you do not live around here. Polls due not pick up new voter registration and that's ashame because the McCain camp would have a better chance, but i think they know.

P.S Negative Attacks are negative in VA. He will tank if he attacks. Northern Virginia has the highest population, also the highest education population. These people don't like that. It might work in PA or Ohio, but it will tank his numbers in VA.

From Franklin County, VA
Live in Alexandria, VA

Independent Voter

Posted by: Ken-Alexandria, VA | October 6, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Morons...the Democratic run Congress had no influence on the market or the mortgage crisis. The mortgage crisis began more than 2 years ago, before the House was taken over by the Democrats. In fact, the whole economy shake up began after 9/11 and near the commencement of the Iraq War. Not to mention the escalation of gas prices. I bet that was caused by the Democrats too?

The Democratic majority in Congress hasn't had any effect on basically anything because the half-twit in the oval office prevents their refirms. The only way to ever really get anything done in Washington is to have a the House and the President from the same party. (i.e. Roosevelt, Regan, Johnson, etc.)

Elect Obama and reforms will be getting passed immediately. In addition, that whole pointless war in Iraq will finally be over...think we can save more money then?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Morons...the Democratic run Congress had no influence on the market or the mortgage crisis. The mortgage crisis began more than 2 years ago, before the House was taken over by the Democrats. In fact, the whole economy shake up began after 9/11 and near the commencement of the Iraq War. Not to mention the escalation of gas prices. I bet that was caused by the Democrats too!?!

The Democratic majority in Congress hasn't had any effect on basically anything because the half-twit in the oval office prevents their reforms. The only way to ever really get anything done in Washington is to have a the House and the President from the same party. (i.e. Roosevelt, Regan, Johnson, etc.)

Elect Obama and reforms will be getting passed immediately. In addition, that whole pointless war in Iraq will finally be over...think we can save more money then?

Posted by: Cory | October 6, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU ACTUALLY LIKE MCCAIN YOU ARE ONE OF FOUR TYPES OF PEOPLE:

1) You are wealthy and powerful. You make alot of money each year, off the backs of the people you push around. You are probably a CEO, General Manager, or Owner of a corporation. You do not care what happens to America and the poor as long as you get your ends. You have voted before and you probably voted for Bush twice.

2) You hate Obama. You hate him becuase of the jealousy of his ivy league education, his skin color, his positive attitude, his wife, his outlook on life, or his taste in music. Whichever of these it is, it pisses you off alot. When you are sitting around watching Nascar or the NFL and drinking beer, you get annoyed at the political commercials. These commercials taught you everything you know about the campaign. You probably will not even vote.

3) You are a religious nutcase. You have crazy beliefs that force you to hate anyone who think differently then you. You will not be happy until everyone in this country looks, thinks, and acts like you do. McCain is not great, but at least he picked a wacko Vice President that agrees with what you like.

4) You are an idiot. One of the other three types of McCain supporters tricked you into beleiving McCain will help you somehow. You probably think that Obama is going to raise your taxes, screw up your healthcare, or allow terrorists into the US. It doesn't matter if these things are all lies, because you are too stupid to realize a lie when they tell it too you.

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I used to like John Voight. I will never, ever see another movie with him in it. Ever. He represents the distillation of the present-day right-wing nut-job. Someone who actually buys into all that Dems-hate-America crap.

Posted by: Mike | October 6, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Tim, you keep recycling the same old post(@2:28PM). Are you one of those paid bloggers of the Obama camp? You talked about Republicans being rich and powerful people. Do you know that the majority of Wall Street CEOs are Democrats, like Warren Buffet? How about George Sorros? Aren't 99% of the Hollywood celebrities Democrats too? Here in West LA (Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Brentwood, Westwood etc), one of the most affluent areas in the state, Republicans are a minority. So the Democrats are for the poor? You must be kidding. It's just a propaganda and class war-fare to win votes. You know more about economics than McCain? Well, maybe you're taken a class or two in the subject. It's all theories in the books. Have you ever run a business? Do you know how human nature works when it comes to money? Obama will probably win this election because of the souring economy but I doubt he'll be able to deliver his promises. They're just too good to be true. So be prepared for a lot of disappointment.

Posted by: blue | October 6, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

blue,

If you actually read it, you would know that being rich is just one of the requirements to liking McCain. Please read the whole thing and maybe you will understand.

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"Obama will probably win this election because of the souring economy but I doubt he'll be able to deliver his promises. They're just too good to be true. So be prepared for a lot of disappointment."

Obama is the first person to become candidate for President based on money he gained from the American citizens. It may have been impossible for past presidents, because they will not put taxes on the very people that paid them to become president. And Obama will not put taxes on the very people, everyday americans, that funded his.

Most politicians tell America one thing, and then turn around and help out thier corporate buddies. Obama has no corporate buddies.

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

So I guess people see socialism as being better than fascism. Some choice.

Posted by: Firebird | October 6, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Maverick -- another term for "lone ranger." As in, nobody is going to follow where this guy wants to lead. He has no congressional Republican support, he has no congressional Democratic support.

Every time John goes off on another tangent, I can hear that old intro ... "the lone ranger, rides again!"

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | October 6, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Clearly McCain/Palin have lost this thing. If they were really interested in putting country first, they would find some constructive way of loosing gracefully, perhaps while delivering a thoughtful message about conservatism or free markets or something they believe in other than fear and hatred. Instead, they are going to spew venom. That's not really helpful, considering the serious problems this nation faces. McCain is old enough to know better; it's hard to say what's rattling around in Palin's brain.

Posted by: Dave | October 6, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Nice Comment “Liberals Suck”. That was a well formulated and concise rebut of nothing. Are you physically seven years old or just mentally? My greatest fear is that you out number us. We need to start aggressively funding education in this country because, sadly, I know your unsubstantiated fear and bigotry will bring you to the polls. Yeeeha!!!

Posted by: MooP | October 6, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Bush keeps coaching McCain & McCain slides deeper & deeper into the Republican gutter. McCain's best bet is for Bush to give him a ride on the Bus heading west in January ... The Trail of Tears !!

Posted by: SadAmerican | October 6, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

When did Jon Voight get out of rehab ? He's never on tv or in the movies anymore. I hope he's over all the problems he had. Poor Republicans, it seems most have issues .. it's kinda sad

Posted by: SadAmerican | October 6, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Remember,
you MUST take one of the candidates who forced you to pay for the Wall Street bailout.
Understand?

"The two parties should be
almost identical, so that
the American people can
'throw the rascals out'
at any election without
leading to any profound or
extensive shifts in policy."
-Carol Quigley

Posted by: plunge protection team joke | October 6, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

John McCain will be a disaster for America.
(1)He plans to deregulate medical care in US. In other words no tax break for employers to provide health care for employees. So employers stop providing health car benefits for employees.

His plans will make taxpayers add total health care costs to their adjusted taxable income - Will be increase tax for taxpayer
(a)Total health costs Family(aver cost is $12,000 for family that is only for young parents & young children - costs increases as parents age - this cost is only an average plan not top plan so overall plan costs would be much higher to get top plan coverage - average plan will include person paying lots of health care costs not covered.
(b)$5000 deduction for same above family - no increase deduction as patents age - as parents age cost for health care go up - $12,000 - $5,000 = $7,000 cost to this above average family - more money costs if parents older - no allowance increases for increased costs as person ages.
(c)$2500 tax deduction for a sole individual average age young taxpayer - $5000 - 2500 = $2500 cost to taxpayer - no increase in tax deduction as person ages. Again average plan is still not the best plan. Under average plan individual will still pay lots of uncovered health care costs. To buy a better plan cost will increase and taxpayer pays more.
(d)McCain provides for no inflationary cost deductions - shocking as health care costs are one of highest yearly continued rising costs. Taxpayer will yearly see increase in money he pays for insurance coverage.
(e)There will be free market for health care plans. Rampant abuse will occur affecting people's health and their won lives. Medical insurance companies will start denying even more coverage than they presently do. Good example is what happened to all the banks and the present financial meltdown. Crooks will become commonplace!!!
(f)Number Americans without health care plan coverage will rise dramatically

I am a medical professional and do understand John McCain's Health Care Plan very well. It will be big time disaster. Total average Health Care Cost stated above are for Kaiser Permanente Medical Health Care Coverage. This Kaiser was quoted average costs reported in several news media reports. I am familiar with an average plan of Kaiser and many costs are not covered - family or individual will still pay alot.

I worked for Kaiser and just recently retired. I was a Diabetes Care Manager and had to be quite familiar with patient coverage.

John McCain is making plans for a total Health Care Meltdown in America if elected!!!! And I am a female Republican!!! I am shocked at what he is proposing. The health of all Americans depend upon him not getting elected!!! People will die - plain and simple!! How dare John McCain recommend and encourage corporations to stop covering their workers!!

Posted by: Sharon | October 6, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"the poll was skewed towards Democrats..."
the article says.

Not necessarily!

Turns out the only people polled were pimps, ho's, crackheads, hobos, radical muslims, black muslims, racist afrocentric preachers, racist America-hating wives, rappers, terrorists, anarchists, dope dealers, voter fraud perps, welfare fraud perps, communists, fascists, socialists, marxists, Barney Frank and Bruce Springsteen.

Posted by: viejo1 | October 6, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey firebird...
facism VS. socialism ? Some choice...?

like --- Nazi Germany ...? vs. Sweden?

Sounds like an easy choice to me.

But then how about responsible Capitalism as a third choice? If some Republicans had their way we'd still have the robber barons and the great depression. (the first one they caused, not the new one they've brought about by ignoring the lessons of the original.) Reagan and Bush the younger preached fiscal responsibility and practised racking up the greatest national debt in history. Now Mcain, the staunch advocate of deregulation and his pet parrot Palin proclaim both the need for sound government oversight and strong regulation and allso urge the government to "get out of the way", stress the need for deregulating the health care industry, and oh, wouldn't this be a good time to privatize social security? I understand stocks are a great bargain right now.

At least when FDR spent money he put people back to work, and built the country's infrastructure.

Don't get me started - I'm out of Prilosec.

Let's have a big shout-out for Mcain, Poll Palin and their spirit guide Herberet Hoover

Posted by: cwg -Portsmouth, NH | October 6, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

viejo1....u forgot yourself...oh sorry my mistake...u did mention ho's

Posted by: sfo | October 6, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

In 2000 I was shocked to see how dumb bush was...and people still elected him...now I am shocked to see dumber palin...and the question is :- are the american people smarter than palin to not vote for mccain/palin

Posted by: sfo | October 6, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The original meaning of the word maverick means "a lost, unbranded calf".

If anyone wants to know more about the REAL McCain, read the Rolling Stone article about him, read what his respected military friends have to say about him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print


Posted by: mavisdarling | October 6, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, cwg, I suppose Sweden is the lesser of two evils... as long as you don't mind having half of your labor stolen from you at gunpoint and redistributed by the federal government. Oh, and don't forget about paying 50% more for gas. But you're right, I guess it beats going to the gas chambers.

How about we do some meaningful regulation, like making a law that prevents banks from lending money they don't have? How about preventing the health care and education industries from overcharging for their services, by not guaranteeing that their will be plenty of easy money available to pay for their mass ripoffs? Oh, and how about a press that doesn't pretend that there are only two candidates?

Posted by: Firebird | October 6, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin has the nerve to talk about Obama - when she infact is one step away from being a felon. Troopergate, tax evasion, witchcraft. This is the best John McCain could do????

Posted by: hottopics | October 6, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS THE FUNNIEST ISH. AND OHHH. SO TRUE. YOU FORGOT THAT THERE ARE ALSO REDNECKS, AND THE KILL KILL KILL BUNCH OF SMALL BRAINED PEOPLE WHO MARRY THIER COUSINS, THAT GROUP LOVES MCCAIN/PALIN TOO.

**************************
IF YOU ACTUALLY LIKE MCCAIN YOU ARE ONE OF FOUR TYPES OF PEOPLE:

1) You are wealthy and powerful. You make alot of money each year, off the backs of the people you push around. You are probably a CEO, General Manager, or Owner of a corporation. You do not care what happens to America and the poor as long as you get your ends. You have voted before and you probably voted for Bush twice.

2) You hate Obama. You hate him becuase of the jealousy of his ivy league education, his skin color, his positive attitude, his wife, his outlook on life, or his taste in music. Whichever of these it is, it pisses you off alot. When you are sitting around watching Nascar or the NFL and drinking beer, you get annoyed at the political commercials. These commercials taught you everything you know about the campaign. You probably will not even vote.

3) You are a religious nutcase. You have crazy beliefs that force you to hate anyone who think differently then you. You will not be happy until everyone in this country looks, thinks, and acts like you do. McCain is not great, but at least he picked a wacko Vice President that agrees with what you like.

4) You are an idiot. One of the other three types of McCain supporters tricked you into beleiving McCain will help you somehow. You probably think that Obama is going to raise your taxes, screw up your healthcare, or allow terrorists into the US. It doesn't matter if these things are all lies, because you are too stupid to realize a lie when they tell it too you.

Posted by: AMUSED CHICK | October 6, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear god...I am a libertarian and to read the crap here by Obama supporters is simply pathetic. The numerous lies circulating on blogs about Palin are outrageous and borderline brainwashing. Obama is an unknown RADICAL LIBERAL who says one thing but his history proves to be another. America is in for a great Depression because of our government meddling in our markets which will lead to more bigger government while making more people dependent upon that government so the rich ass liberal lawyers can continue to get re-elected. Now that is HOPE we can believe in. For the idiots who think Obama has a chance in Arizona, keep drinking the kool aid as the lastest poll has McCain up by 22.

Posted by: Libertarian | October 6, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Jothemedicaldoctor clearly has not analyzed the healthcare policies accurately (or is an old school, fee for service era MD who screwed up the entire sysem in the 70s & 80s by fradulently gaming the system and went into medicine for the $$$). NEJM, AMA, and physicianconnect have scrutinized both, and come up with Obamiden's plan as being better.

Ante up, jothemedicaldoctor. You're a fraud as a physician if you believe McBush's health plan is better. I hope you stashed away ALOT in your 403(b) partnership matching scheme: your Bush team just cut it by 33% or so in the last month. Ain't no Epinephrine, Zygris, Atropine, or ACLS protocol that can resuscitate your horrid voting record over the past 8 years.

The good news for you? Just relax, sit back, and leave the driving to Obama/Biden! Like the morbidly obese diabetic, Obamiden will cut you off from the McDonald's meal McPalin is serving up -- and get you on the treadmill!

Posted by: warrenthemedicaldoctor | October 7, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

It's great that Obama is making his mark in traditionally "Red States" in the South and in the Midwest. This shows how his message and his policies go across party lines, especially in this time of economic crisis.

Here's an article I read about what the South has in store for Obama
http://branin.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/time-for-open-to-look-to-the-south/
if anyone's interested in reading that

All the best in November 4th!

Posted by: BruceCounty | October 7, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

This poll is most certainly crap. There was just a poll for the same period showing nothing of the sort. The internals of this poll over samples Democrats and independents. Talk about a shameless poll. Keep dreaming on election day. Obama is going to fall in Virginia and Warner might find himself up all night too after his horrible debate performance and his trash talk about homeschoolers and the NRA.

Posted by: Mael | October 7, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

I can't vote, because I am not American, but I urge the American people to vote for Obama/Biden Ticket.
The people all over the world respect and admire the American people, and they hate the GWB administration.

Posted by: Outsider2008 | October 7, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

The time is now!

To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his political ambitions. Barack is calculated and methodical about hiding his true convictions and intentions, and uses deception to get elected.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember Barack Hussein Obama’s intimate 20 year relationship with the Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright, who blessed Barack and Michelle marriage and baptized both their daughters. AND, to remember the hideous videos of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation which included the Obamas, damning America with bombastic joy, after the Muslim’s criminal attack on America on 9/11.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember how Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright used his tax-exempt church to exercise a radical political agenda, and how he refers to Israel, as well as America, as a "racist" State. Barack's religious leader, Jeremiah Wright believes that the true 'Chosen People' are the blacks; and that black values are superior to middle-class American values.
 Indeed Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright is a black supremacist.

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America.

The time is now!
For Americans of all political parties to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and have always been proud of, by voting for a True American Patriot and War Hero who risked his life for our country:
John McCain for President of the United States of America.

Country First!
Americans for John McCain

Posted by: Manolete | October 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

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