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Bloomberg-Backed TV Ad Targets McDonnell

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg joined with victims and relatives of the Virginia Tech massacre in Arlington today -- just days before the second anniversary of the campus shooting -- to speak against a loophole in state law that allows private sellers at gun shows to sell firearms without conducting background checks.

They also aired a preview of a television commercial targeting Republican gubernatorial nominee Robert F. McDonnell, who has not supported closing the loophole.

"Make no mistake about it. This is not a partisan issue. This is not a geographic issue," Bloomberg said. The issue, he said, is whether lawmakers wants to protect criminals or the public. "Who are you going to support, the good guys or the criminals? You and me or them?"

Bloomberg is a major financial contributor to the advocacy association Americans United for Safe Streets, which plans to release the commercial targeting the loophole and McDonnell tomorrow.

"Bob McDonnell was on the campus of Virginia Tech the day after the shootings,'' said Phil Cox, McDonnell's campaign manager. "He personally met with a number of families and friends of the injured and killed. He will never forget their suffering, and their pain."

Following the 2007 massacre, McDonnell and Gov. Timothy M. Kaine (D) worked to close a legal loophole that allowed the shooter, Seung Hui Cho, to pass official background checks when he legally purchased his two firearms from Virginia gun shops.

Cho was a student with mental health problems. He killed 32 people on April 16, 2007, before taking his own life.


The type of purchase Cho made is separate from the gun show issue spotlighted in the new TV ad.

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By Anita Kumar  |  April 13, 2009; 2:14 PM ET
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New York City is on the verge of bankruptcy (again) and Bloomberg is down here telling Virginian's what we ought to do?

Mike, go back to New York and leave us alone. There is a reason why the crime rates are lower here than in New York, Massachussetts, Connecticut, Mayland or any state north of the Viginia border. We call it CCW and the right to carry.

Every state that has right to carry, has substantially lower crime rates. if one student had a pitol at Virginia Tech, it woul have been over in a New York nanosecond.

You and your organizations have gutted the Boy Scouts, fiscally and from being supportive, becuase they aren't "stylish." Where do you think people learn firearms safety and marksmanship, when they are young?

So kiss our collective Virginia a$$e$ and get out of town. We don;t want you and the parents that failed to take there youngsters to the range, well, sorry about that. We need to learn from our mistakes, not repeat them.

By the way, we heard how your security detailed hassled and harrassed an NRA member. Word spreads fast.

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | April 13, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Typical fear mongering by the anti-constitutionalists . This add has NOTHING to do with the VA TECH massacre.

Bloomberg's next add will be to get angry at celery farmers for causing lung cancer because those farmers planted their crops near tobacco fields in Virginia. Insane.

I am sure people from the great commonwealth of Virginia want to be told how to go about their business by some big city mayor from up north. This idiot from NYC will only polarize and distort; meanwhile the proper legislation of removing gun free zones will be ignored. Prohibiting guns and placing more constraints on law abiding people's access to guns only serves to make us law abiding more susceptible to gun crimes from criminals and the insane.

What a shame. Bloomberg has made billions in the wall street world that came about due to the free thoughts of our founding fathers; but has failed to read the history of the 2nd amendment put forth by those same founding fathers.

Posted by: civilrightist | April 13, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Following the 2007 massacre, McDonnell and Gov. Timothy M. Kaine (D) worked to close a legal loophole that allowed the shooter, Seung Hui Cho, to pass official background checks when he legally purchased his two firearms from Virginia gun shops.

This is simply a lie printed by the Post. There was nothing that could have stopped Cho from buying a gun. Seeing a therapist does not disqualify ANYONE from owning a gun. An inmate in a mental hospital is a different story. It would be nice for the Post to print the truth instead of pandering to one group or another.

Posted by: askgees | April 13, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Time for Giuliani to run for Mayor again and knock this self-serving arse out of office in NYC.

Posted by: civilrightist | April 13, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: askgees | April 13, 2009 4:15 PM

There was nothing that could have stopped Cho from buying a gun. Seeing a therapist does not disqualify ANYONE from owning a gun. An inmate in a mental hospital is a different story. It would be nice for the Post to print the truth instead of pandering to one group or another.
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Excuse me. But where in the Constitution do you see inmates in mental hospitals aren't allowed to have guns? My choice would be AK-47s

It's their unqualified Constitutional right to bear arms. Whether they're sane or psychotic. You flaming liberal. Psychotics have just as much a right to defend themselves as the sane do.

If you disagree you best show me in the Constitution where it says different.

Posted by: James10 | April 13, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"The type of purchase Cho made is separate from the gun show issue spotlighted in the new TV ad."

wait wait, i know i've seen this "with us or with the enemy" tactic somewhere before... i can't remember exactly where though. whatever it was i'm sure it turned out okay. fear mongering never has unintended consequences!

Posted by: millionea7 | April 13, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Ohhh, all of the gun-toting cry-babies are up in a snoot with their comments. Mercy, perish the thought of taking away your manhood, your pretend power, your imagined verility. Find those little snippets to make your claims. Contort your logic to change the subject. Quake in your boots while you think of walking down the street without your big bad gun in your pocket.

Posted by: 0nl00k3r | April 13, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Grow up Virginians, its about time the NRA and its zealot approach to governance stopped controlling the spin, the politicians, and much to much influence in policy. I have guns, don't mind hunting, love the woods, enjoy venison and turkey,.....but the idiots selling guns off the radar and out of the back of the cars are ignorant dumba#### just like those who support them and the NRA to rule the world. Stick to the right to have local militia ala military reserves. If stuff hits the fan, trust me its not the NRA membership that will protect this Virginia boy, I can handle myself without the NRA help!

Posted by: gregp2 | April 13, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Only lazy fools read what the post posts and make informed decisions based upon the misinformed fluff written by this paper. Bloomberg is trying to redirect blame for a crappy job he is doing in his own state. Private sales at a gun show are no different then selling out of the back of my car in a church parking lot. Read the VA constitution and laws and THEN determine if there is a loophole.

Posted by: bohdi12@yahoo.com | April 13, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell was a leader in promoting reform of background checks to include mental health.

There is NOT a gun show loophole. Commercial dealers must run background checks like everyone else. This is just a vicious partisan attack that is using the horrible circumstance for political gain. Bloomberg should be disgusted.

Posted by: rayjr1 | April 13, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Following the 2007 massacre, McDonnell and Gov. Timothy M. Kaine (D) worked to close a legal loophole that allowed the shooter, Seung Hui Cho, to pass official background checks when he legally purchased his two firearms from Virginia gun shops.

This is simply a lie printed by the Post. There was nothing that could have stopped Cho from buying a gun. Seeing a therapist does not disqualify ANYONE from owning a gun. An inmate in a mental hospital is a different story. It would be nice for the Post to print the truth instead of pandering to one group or another.

Posted by: askgees | April 13, 2009 4:15 PM __________________________________________

askgees,

You are wrong and need to post an apology to the Post reporters for accusing them of publishing a lie or pandering.

At the time of the Virginia Tech shootings, and earlier when Cho passed a background check thru the NCIC and bought his weapons in a licensed gun shop, Virginia was one of only 22 states that reported mental health treatment to the NCIC. However, reporting was limited to those who had been involuntarily committed to in-patient treatment and did not include reporting those who received out-patient treatment, even if it was court-ordered, as was the case with Cho. On April 30, 2007, Gov. Kaine issued an executive order requiring that ALL involuntary mental health treatment be reported. He and AG McDonnell did, in fact, close the loophole that had allowed Cho to buy his weapons.

Posted by: hisroc | April 13, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Liberals should beware of supporting gun control or only the wingnuts and the criminals will have them!

Posted by: Woodstocknative | April 13, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

James10, you asked for proof, here it is. You don't have a clue do you? A person who answers "yes" to either of the below questions concerning mental health are prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm pursuant to state and/or federal law. 1.) Have you ever been adjudicated legally incompetent or mentally incapacitated, or adjudicated an incapacitated person? 2.) Have you ever been involuntarily admitted to a facility or involuntarily ordered to outpatient mental health treatment? Mental health considerations have been disqualifiers for years.

Posted by: SkyTrooper | April 13, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

James10, sorry, I didn't put the cites in my last posting for you, here ya go:

§18.2-308.1:2 Purchase, Possession or Transportation of Firearm by Persons Adjudicated Legally Incompetent or Mentally Incapacitated

§18.2-308.1:3 Purchase, Possession or Transportation of Firearm by Persons Involuntarily Committed

Posted by: SkyTrooper | April 13, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

"This is simply a lie printed by the Post. There was nothing that could have stopped Cho from buying a gun. Seeing a therapist does not disqualify ANYONE from owning a gun. An inmate in a mental hospital is a different story. It would be nice for the Post to print the truth instead of pandering to one group or another."

Not to rehash an old story, but Cho was not legally allowed to buy a gun. Technically. He wasn't in the proper database to prevent his purchase, because he wasn't reported to BATF for not following a judges' order to continue his psychiatric treatment.

The real issue, which probably still continues today, is that someone who is under a judges' order to receive psychiatric treatment probably shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun anyway.

This of course has nothing to do with the Va gun-show loophole. But neither does the fact that Cho bought his weapons at a gun-shop. Maybe...there's a significance difference bewteen a loony buying a gun at a Va gun shop, and buying one at a Va gun *show*? Oh yeah, they don't do *any* background checks at VA gunshows. The seller has to rely on their good 'ol Mk1 eyeball to divine whether it's a good idea to sell a weapon to someone or not.

Posted by: dubya19391 | April 13, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

...the problem is that nowadays *anyone* who wants to buy a gun should be looked-at closely. Whether it's legal or not.

Posted by: dubya19391 | April 13, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

In the Stafford County Sun, it appears there were two instances of crime involving 6 New Yorkers - one of them involving a firearm.

Mayor Bloomberg, when you go back to New York - and we hope its soon - would you please take your criminals back with you?

Anyone with an out of control crime problem like Bloomberg's should be at home fixing it - not down here presuming to lecture us.

Tell you what, Bloomberg, when Virginia's crime rate surpasses yours, we will ask for advice.

Till then, bugger off.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 13, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Mike Bloomberg is a good one to come down south from NYC and tell people how to deal with crime! What a hypocrite! To tell McDonnell, an AG of a state with a much smaller crime rate than NYC, how he should derail crime. He needs to take his Yankey ass back to NYC and work on the problems there. If he gets it figured out, then he can offer suggesstions.

Posted by: reason5 | April 15, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

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