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George Allen: 'Perhaps' a rematch vs. Webb in 2012?

Don't toy with us, Governor.

That's right, former governor and U.S. senator George Allen said today that he is thinking pretty seriously about public office, including a possible rematch against Democrat Jim Webb, who defeated Allen in 2006 by fewer than 10,000 votes.

It's so thrilling we can hardly type. Allen's been out and about quite a lot lately, prompting lots of gossip about his political plans. Turns out he might have some. Here's the money quote, which he offered when asked about a rematch:

"Many people have encouraged me to run," Allen said in a telephone interview. "Susan and I have heard that from many people. And the answer is: perhaps."

Allen said about 2006, "I don't like losing, you may have guessed." But he also said he has enjoyed his year out of public life tremendously, traveling with his wife and spending more time with his children than ever before. A rematch against Webb is still a long way off, and he'll do much more thinking between now and then, he said.

And if we had to guess, he'll be doing much more in the public eye. He talked expansively today, for example, about what he views as the missteps of Congress and President Obama on such issues as stimulus spending, "cap and tax," health reform and deficit reduction. Allen said today that he wasn't going to criticize specific "personalities"; given Webb's votes on health reform this week, let's assume that comes later.

"When you take stands on these issues, which are the agenda of Harry Reid or Speaker Nancy Pelosi, you're aligning yourself with folks who do not necessarily have the same views, philosophy or values of Virginians," Allen said.

In the meantime, we tried to broach the subject of the controversy that contributed to Allen's defeat in '06. Is "Macaca" ancient history? Will Virginians care in 2012? Allen didn't have much to say about that, other than, "You learn more from losing than from winning."

By Amy Gardner  |  December 23, 2009; 2:28 PM ET
Categories:  Amy Gardner , George F. Allen , James Webb  
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The question isn't whether voters will remember "macaca" in 2012. The question is whether the Washington Post will even still be publishing a newspaper in 2012.

Posted by: JTR555 | December 23, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Webb is through after his Porkulus, and Obamacare votes. Whether its Allen or not, you can bet your last Obama dollar (actual value 78 cents) that seat will be filled by a Republican.

Posted by: wewinyoulose | December 23, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

What about Cucinelli or Bolling? Both shouldn't wait to run for Gov in '13.

Posted by: estuartj | December 23, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Just what we need - George Allen - NOT! I'd like to thank all of the democrats that have given George Allen credibility over the last year, especially Creigh Deeds and Paul Goldman for that stupid schools idea that gave Cowboy George a 'reasonable' voice in the public eye.

Posted by: notjoeabbey | December 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that he will run if his brother does a lousy job with the Redskins and further sullies the family name. You may think I'm kidding, but I'm not.

Posted by: lydgate | December 23, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

In 2012, Virginia will be even less inclined to vote for the winking bigotry of George Allen than it was in 2006.

Posted by: pdxer | December 24, 2009 2:46 AM | Report abuse

"Macaca" is but the tip of the iceberg. There is a long history on Allen, and it will all be brought out if he raises his head again.

Posted by: shadowshopper1981 | December 24, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I could see him re-emerging to run for something, but a rematch against Webb would be a tough sell at this point. Allen didn't really accomplish anything during his 6 years in the Senate. He was a quiet back-bencher who voted the party line and didn't know who Ben Bernanke was when asked about him by a reporter during Bernanke's first confirmation hearings.

Whereas Jim Webb, in his first 2 years in office, authored and passed the Webb GI Bill, kept his promise about allowing concealed weapons permits in national forests, and went to Burma on his own initiative to free an American prisoner and jump-start diplomatic talks with the Burmese junta. The man knows how to get things done. He bucks the party when his conscience tells him to, and his abilities and knowledge guarantee that leaders of both parties in the Senate seek his counsel. Jim Webb is one in a million. He is the embodiment of everything that one would ever hope to find in a United States Senator. George Allen throws football metaphors around and spits a lot. I'm sure Allen a good guy if you know him in person, but he couldn't fill Jim Webb's shoes by a long shot.

Posted by: JacksonLanders | December 24, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

The conservatives may hate Senator Jim Webb, but the mainstream loves his independence streak and his standing up for the little guys be they military, retirees or the farmer and small businesses across the commonwealth. And who is going to argue with him as he packs heat into the capital.

Posted by: jeffreysachs | December 24, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Anybody but Webb!

He has shown his true colors!

Posted by: furtdw | December 24, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

jeffreysachs wrote:

"The conservatives may hate Senator Jim Webb, but the mainstream loves his independence streak and his standing up for the little guys be they military,

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No.

I am retired military (USMC).

I will not be voting for Webb.

Posted by: furtdw | December 24, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"You learn more from losing than from winning."

Mr. Allen, America has learned that we do NOT tolerate bigotry from folks like you!

Posted by: DickNH | December 24, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

The entire "Macaca" thing was all about nothing. It was a manufactured crisis brought to you by the so-called, and anything but, MSM. You can be sure if it was a Democrat that said the exact same thing it wouldn't even had made the papers. It'll be a crying shame when two of the Democrats leading voices, the NY Times and the Washington Post, go out of business.

Posted by: Sedona1 | December 24, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Webb kissed his career in the senate good bye when he voted for that healthcare reform bill...

Posted by: civilemik | December 24, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Webb was a faux CenterRight guy just as were so many Dems who ran in this last decade. The Dems knew that they needed some CenterRight people and lied, yes, lied about their credentials. Webb was one as were some 25 so called Blue Dog Dems. Hopefully, voters will remember that Allen was a good and economic sound governor. He will make a good Senator if the WAPO and NYTimes can't lie about his real record. And there was no bigotry. That is the purview of the leftist MSM and their absurd readers and listeners.

Posted by: phillyfanatic | December 24, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

By voting for the Health Care bill your political life is in peril, the milkman or the garbageman could beat you now, with little or no expenditure. Retirement is the best option for those who voted for the health Care bill. Even Macaca could beat Webb now and by that i mean sh**.

Posted by: zcxnissan | December 24, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Given how much the former governor liked the inspirational little speech I gave after he had lost the election (he sort of plagiarized what I posted on Craigslist, but he did a piss poor job -- that big old tree with its broken branches and such, Senator Warner standing beside him), maybe he'd like me to write his next concession speech. (Just so he's prepared for the inevitable outcome.)

Jeffrey Forrest Sturk (Gallant)
Former Candidate for President, 2000
www.MyPoliticalParty.US

Posted by: experiencecountsus | December 24, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

furtdw -
I'm a veteran. Don't dare suggest you speak for me, or any other veteran but yourself.
Allen is a certified P O S bigot, and I promise not to let anyone forget it.
I hope he runs just so we can make an example of the hateful nature of ALL republicans, as well as drain off republican funds.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | December 25, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

His independent streak? That really made me laugh. He has voted the line with Reid from day one. Oh yea a vote here or there on losing votes is not being independent that is just pretending. How about he vote independent on a vote that matters.

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The conservatives may hate Senator Jim Webb, but the mainstream loves his independence streak and his standing up for the little guys be they military, retirees or the farmer and small businesses across the commonwealth. And who is going to argue with him as he packs heat into the capital.

Posted by: jeffreysachs | December 24, 2009 9:58 AM

Posted by: KABOOKEY | December 25, 2009 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Are you talking about Saint O? You know white man's greed fuels a world in need? Or throwing grammy under the bus. You gonna fight that fight in '12 too? I doubt it.

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furtdw -
I'm a veteran. Don't dare suggest you speak for me, or any other veteran but yourself.
Allen is a certified P O S bigot, and I promise not to let anyone forget it.
I hope he runs just so we can make an example of the hateful nature of ALL republicans, as well as drain off republican funds.


Posted by: jeffc6578 | December 25, 2009 12:17 AM

Posted by: KABOOKEY | December 25, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Democrats will begin their run away from President Obama, Reid, and Pelosi, as soon as the New Year begins. Watch for lots of junk bills this year, so they can say they have voted against the party line. But now, voters are smarter and better informed, and they will not be fooled. They'll be playing the race card again, but voters are now seeing liberalism at full force, and it makes them see conservatives, for the nation, is better than liberals. By the time the 2014 election is over, even the black caucus will be seen as a liberal institution of redistribution. The American voter has only begun to hate liberalism. Wait until they realize the health care bill doesn't take affect until 2013. Any of you want to buy a 2013 year model car and pay for it now? LOL ! As for Webb, STICK A FORK IN HIM, he is finished. George Allen, or any known name will beat him. All Democrats will be running away from liberalism, swearing their independence, but the voters have seen their actions.

Posted by: poppy11 | December 25, 2009 7:02 AM | Report abuse

More important than the actual vote on the health care bill are Webb's votes on the Constitutional Points of Order raised by Senators Ensign (the individual mandate) and Hutchison (the 10th Amendment). As Hutchison said,

"Everyone within the sound of my voice should be alarmed that members of Congress actually believe our Constitution, which enumerates and protects our liberties and choices, can be perverted to require Americans to purchase something they may not want, and may feel they do not need. Such a view is totally at odds with our Constitution."

Webb believes the Constitution allows him to dictate what you or I buy for ourselves. On what basis? That Congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce; our collective purchases or non-purchases affect commerce; therefore the government can dictate what citizens buy.

That's a dangerously broad expansion of power. Sure, it's healthcare today, but tomorrow it could literally be ANYTHING. Allowing this to happen is not just a slippery slope, it's diving head first into the water, knowing there's a huge rock just below the waves.

You can bet I'm "alarmed". Webb has GOT to go. He's a danger to our freedom. He has no right representing any of us, regardless of our political points of view.

Posted by: dmarney | December 25, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

When Bush at a social occasion asked Webb something like, "How are your boys?" meaning Webb's sons serving in Iraq, Webb said, in substance, "That's my business" he exhibited a smallness of character lost on most folks. That revealing exchange by itself, not to mention his voting record, will cause me and my wife to work hard against him, contribute to his opponent and vote against him early and often, and with relish.

Posted by: WideAwake2 | December 25, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

The Post, Webb, and the Democrats are tainted by their far left political agenda. George Allen will win by 20 points.

Posted by: jy151310 | December 25, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The demographics of the Commonwealth of
Virginia will continue to change by 2012, especially in the highly educated Nothern Virginia area and someone of George Allen's elk will have a difficult time winning statewide election. The days of this tobacco chewing, Confederate flag waving redneck are over.

Posted by: PTaylor8336 | December 25, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Macaca lives! This guy wont win dogcatcher in 2012. Him and Susan can indulge their fantasies and Webb will kick their butt.

Posted by: gregphillyburbs | December 25, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

WideAwake--Webb had one son serving in Iraq- not two. It was Bush who was petty and small of character in asking the question in the way he did. Webb championed the new GI Bill which will greatly assists our veterans. Bush, in his eight years in office, has done more to harm the Armed Forces than anybody in a comparable time. Our forces are severely stretched and exhausted. We have basically no strategic reserve. Bush was a disaster for the military.

Posted by: shogun_5 | December 25, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

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