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Despite previous governors' refusals, McDonnell issues Confederate history month proclamation

Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) has quietly declared April 2010 Confederate History Month, bringing back a designation in Virginia that his two Democratic predecessors -- Mark Warner and Tim Kaine -- refused to do.

Republican governors George Allen and Jim Gilmore issued similar proclamations. But in 2002, Warner broke with their action, calling such proclamations, a "lightning rod" that does not help bridge divisions between whites and blacks in Virginia.

This year's proclamation was requested by the Sons of Confederate Veterans. A representative of the group said the group has known since it interviewed McDonnell when he was running for attorney general in 2005 that he was likely to respond differently than Warner or Kaine.

"We've known for quite some time we had a good opportunity should he ascend the governorship," Brandon Dorsey said. "We basically decided to bide our time and wait until we had more favorable politicians in Richmond."

Dorsey said the governor's stamp of approval would help the group publicize the month and aide tourism efforts in the state.


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"As I read it, this proclamation is more designed to get people to study the issue rather than simply being a tribute," he said. "We would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle. At the very least, we'd like them to study why they went out and did it. And I think the proclamation could be construed either way."

The language can be seen on the governor's Web site.

Richmond is the former capital of the Confederacy.

Sen. A. Donald McEachin (D-Richmond) said he was "stunned" to learn of McDonnell's decision and even more stunned that the proclamation did not include any reference to slavery. "It's offensive,'' he said.

The proclamation is one of about two dozen McDonnell has issued since his inauguration in January. Many, but not all, are posted on the office's Web site.

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Just exactly which constituency is he playing to, however you look at history, there is no question that the Confederacy stood for treason because they took up arms against the government of The United States. Nice job Virginia, you've really picked a winner with this nut bag!

Posted by: wsblount | April 6, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

oh, it's Confederate history month! that explains cuccinelli's silly lawsuits against the federal government trying to nulify federal law and assert states rights. it also helps to explain cuccinelli and mcdonnells efforts to protect discrimation against gays.
infact, it explains everything mcdonell and cuccinelli have been doing.
but does this mean when the month is over, they will bring their agenda into the 21st century? or will they continue to push virginia back into the dark ages?

Posted by: MarilynManson | April 6, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

VA elected these backwoods hilbillies, let 'em live with it. Apparently VA voters were pining for the good ole days when the good ole boys ran everything. Personally I think this hick and kookanelli should don full KKK garb and walk around like that. Most of their subjects won't mind I'm sure.

Posted by: red2million | April 6, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Why does whomever designed these comments sections still have a job? I don't know squat about computers and I have no doubt I could design something smarter than this. As to the article, this is obviously what VA wanted. I'm sure the hillbillies the VA voters elected are working on a plan to rid the state of blacks and minorities.

Posted by: red2million | April 6, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

not a surprise. he is who he is. just running back to his roots.

Posted by: trufe | April 6, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

This move seems remarkably tone deaf. McDonnell ran on a jobs platform. It is reasonable to think that people voted for him because they thought he could deliver on the Virginia economy and on jobs creation.

Does reviving Confederate history month create jobs? No. So why would he go picking a fight on this one? Doesn't make any sense, much like Cuccinelli's picking a fight on protected status for sexual orientation within what seemed like moments of taking office. Too many unforced errors.

Posted by: JoeSchmoe06 | April 6, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Question: How many Virginians does it take to change a light bulb?

Answer: Three. One to change the bulb and two to talk about how grand the old one was.

Posted by: jlhare1 | April 6, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

This makes me ashamed to live here .... no good can come from having this fundy nutbag as governor.

Posted by: mutt1 | April 6, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

If you read the language of the proclamation, it sounds more like an effort to promote tourism for the Civil War sesquicentennial. Let the tourists come, visit our battlefields and historic sites, spend their money, and then leave. They might even encounter some of our gay/lesbian tourism industry staff who can now be discriminated against if they work at a site owned by the Commonwealth! (By the way, the NPS sites do a good job of covering the pre-war institution of slavery and post-war struggles for civil rights in their site interpretations and literature.)

Posted by: goosecrick1 | April 6, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Huzzah for Celebration of Treason and Racism Month in Ole Virginny!

Posted by: MinnecticutYankee | April 6, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

What a shame.

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise. A Republican governor wanting to celebrate Confederate Virginia.
Let us all celebrate the anniversary of the Burning of Richmond......got a match.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 6, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least this insensitive bigot is consistent...

Posted by: bgd1964 | April 6, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Good. We are long overdue for some public recognition of the contributions of people who betrayed and attemped to destroy their own country. People who conspired with foreign powers to maintain the prerogatives of the elite in a feudal economy built on the backs of landless white peasants and African slaves need a glorious Huzzah.

Posted by: wharwood | April 6, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

And to think I missed the celebration of Christian Heritage Week last month! Proud to be a Virginian.

Posted by: ramgut | April 6, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

If you would take a moment to read the page, you will see that Governor McDonnell is pointing out that this day is part of our shared history and that we should take a moment to reflect on the events that occurred and how these played out over time. It is important to understand our history as it actually happened and not through the revisionist lens of those who would rather pretend otherwise. That is only living in falsehood.

Posted by: Apis_mellifera | April 6, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

So happy that I only work in VA and don't live here.....what were Virginians thinking when they elected this guy???? No wonder this administration has been throwing darts at the federal gov't.

Posted by: boobear76 | April 6, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Lee McDonnell didn't want to make Cletus Cuccinelli look too stupid so he came up with this bit of genius.

Now look for some rightwingnut teabaggers to post how the Confederates were all Democrats.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow Bob, why don't you just go ahead and declare a Nazi Month while you're at it? What a classless donkey.

Posted by: domino21710 | April 6, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Hahahahahaha!!! the south lost VA. get over it. oh man that state just keeps getting funnier and funnier

Posted by: rmk1122 | April 6, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

A Republican governor of Virginia wants to honor a fallen government that kept 4 million people in slavery. And who will do the ribbon cutting at this event?...RNC Chairman Steele? I swear, if Mr. Steele had been alive in 1865 he would have been digging trenches for the Confederate cause.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 6, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

"Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) has quietly declared April 2010 Confederate History Month."
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"Quietly" is the operative term here.

One can only assume the Governor is not especially proud of Virginia's role in the Civil War - excuse me, the 'War of Northern Aggression' - or else he would have had a big press conference and signing ceremoney.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | April 6, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Rehashs "lost cause" mythology/glorification while shunning African-Americans' pain. Why McDonnell felt he had to shore up his good 'ol boy credentials is a puzzler. It's nothing but lowdown, and may it come back to bite him hard.

Posted by: bitterblogger | April 6, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want about the CSA. Once the rebellion was put down, there was nothing to stand in the way of the unchecked growth and expansion of the Federal Government, the same government that is now telling you to buy health care or else. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

Posted by: biffgrifftheoneandonly | April 6, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

a large part of the state opposed secession. 500,000 of the state's 1.1 million inhabitants in 1860 were slaves. and large parts of the remaining white population also opposed it, as evidenced by West Virginia seceding from the rest of the state to remain in the Union.

McDonnell's latter day 'lost cause revisionist' view arose during the white supremacist post reconstruction era. It should be relegated to the dustbin of propaganda masquerading as supposed history.

Posted by: malcolmyoung1 | April 6, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

And in other news, South Carolina proclaimed April "Remember the Good Ole' Days When Blacks Knew Their Place" Month.

Posted by: vze2r3k5 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

JoeSchmoe06 wrote:
This move seems remarkably tone deaf. McDonnell ran on a jobs platform. It is reasonable to think that people voted for him because they thought he could deliver on the Virginia economy and on jobs creation.

..why would he go picking a fight on this one? Doesn't make any sense, much like Cuccinelli's picking a fight on protected status for sexual orientation within what seemed like moments of taking office. Too many unforced errors.

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I would love to laugh at the predicament of many McDonnell voters, particularly centrists in Ffx Co, Arl, Alex., collectively scratching their heads and musing, "this doesn't make sense. But, but, but...", except that I live in VA and it's no laughing matter.

Face it, this is PRECISELY who McDonnell and Cuccinelli are and what they are about. Their actions aren't "errors" to them. All the warning signs were there, but VA voters preferred to stick their fingers in their ears and rag on the WaPo for delivering the goods on these two.

Look for more Christianist, regressive actions in Virginia to come. How's that transportation plan coming along, McD?

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Why stop there? Why not bring back slavery and lynching mobs?

Posted by: MaS103 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

This is terribly offensive. It should be noted that teh governor supports the confederacy and opposes universal healthcare. Do Viriginians and American in general need more proof of the idiocy of the modern day Republican Party?

Posted by: tfburke19 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Its racist pure and simple.

Posted by: jimscar815 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame me...I voted for Deeds!

Posted by: Vaiconoclast | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"...as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War..."

Here's one member of the nation who won't be visiting Virginia for its Sesquicentennial. In fact, I'm going to make a point of not purchasing anything that comes from Virginia. A simple Google search will net me the names of all Virginia companies that manufacture and/or distribute the products I buy. Those from Virginia -- off my list!

The best way to deal with these whackjobs is to deprive them of what they need most: money to finance their racist, intolerant behavior and knuckle-dragging shenanigans.

Posted by: haveaheart | April 6, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Here's an email I sent to Gov. McDonnell by clicking on the link to his website in the Post's article and then clicking the link to send him an email:

Celebrating the Confederacy is totally inappropriate and offensive to thinking, feeling, law-abiding citizens of Virginia. What's next, "KKK month?" "Bash gays and lesbians month?" Read the comments at
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/04/post_666.html.

Interesting that the URL of the page includes "666."

Posted by: foofoofoo | April 6, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I'll probably be called a "nutbag" by some of the cretins who populate these comment sections, but here goes - the Civil War is a major part of the heritage of the United States. If the American Revolution obtained our freedoms in the eighteenth century, then the Civil War solidified us as a sovereign nation (of the people, by the people and for the people, although the present administration makes me wonder some about that).

To promote confederate history month should give a better picture of what happened, why it happened and of the end result - the south and its citizens were took a stand, for better or worse, and wound up paying s huge price for their actions. To learn more about that history and any other history can be a very positive experience as he/she who ignores history is more apt to repeat it as a result of their ignorence.

OK. Now the cretins can have their say. Whatever the comments, be advised that I stand by my comments and will not be offended (as I consider the source or sources).

Posted by: apdseal | April 6, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

If you would take a moment to read the page, you will see that Governor McDonnell is pointing out that this day is part of our shared history and that we should take a moment to reflect on the events that occurred and how these played out over time. It is important to understand our history as it actually happened and not through the revisionist lens of those who would rather pretend otherwise. That is only living in falsehood.

Posted by: Apis_mellifera | April 6, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse


Which of course, would indicate why there is no mention of slavery anywhere in that proclamation. I'm sorry, but ignoring that slavery was part and parcel of the confederacy is *truly* to live in falsehood.

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

A month to celebrate the "glorious cause" of the Confederacy...I wonder what Mystics owner, Sheila Johnson, would have to say about this?

Posted by: jrobinson3 | April 6, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Ya think Mikey Steele still wants to take credit for McDonnell's election?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should declare Gens. Grant & Sherman's Birthdays a National Holiday??

Posted by: Spectator | April 6, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Haha, these kinds of things used to be passed without anyone commenting or writing about them. I graduated from Fairfax County Public Schools in 2000 and distinctly remember Lee-Jackson-King Day being on the official school calendar until the state separated Lee-Jackson and King into two days. Not that I had a problems with Virginia honoring any of those people, but seemed funny to have them on the same day.

Posted by: rocotten | April 6, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

It really bothers me these Republicans seem to take up not just the mantle of southern culture, but also this specifically Confederate legacy. I think is unfortunate that the party of Lincoln and Grant turns on their own history like this.

Posted by: patrickneil | April 6, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, we shouldn't shy away from history, even its more difficult moments. But as the head of a state bringing public recognition of the most difficult time in our country for the north, south, black, white, rich, poor, etc., by not even acknowledging slavery or the other difficulties of the civil war in the proclamation...that is revisionism.

Posted by: jro1 | April 6, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm embarrassed to say I live in Virginia. Celebrating the Confederacy and celebrating slavery/white supremacy are the same thing. Arguing otherwise is a trope developed by former Confederates in the 1870s to smooth their path back to power. If you look at contemporaneous accounts of secession from 1860-61 and the Civil War years, Confederates were very honest: it was all about slavery. Not to mention--they were traitors. This state is so backwards.

Posted by: mhl1972 | April 6, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

According to Article III Section 3 of the Constitution, "Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them." Since that is exactly what the Confederacy did, either Virginia's governor is celebrating treason or he does not believe in the Constitution. As some on the right often ask, "Why does he hate America?"

Posted by: polprof | April 6, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Funny how today's Republicans don't seem to want to recognize the achievements of Grant and Sherman, good Republicans and butchers of tens of thousands of southern white boys.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse


And how does Virginia celebrate this month?

Secession? Treason? Being mean to former slaves?

Curious minds want to know!

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | April 6, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Shame on you Virginians for electing a dumb ass, racist, Republican redneck into office. You are supposed to be moving forward not taking giant leaps backwards!

Posted by: home8 | April 6, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Virginia's new state motto:

"Virginia is for haters"

Seriously, it's 2010, guys!

Posted by: uscaero | April 6, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

In honor of this momentous occasion, Prince Edward County will close its schools for the entire month.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

And I was concerned that John Stewart might be running out of material.

Posted by: JohnnyU2Berry | April 6, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

When some closet racist Virginian waves his Confederate flag and tells you its not hatred, its heritage. Bull feathers! Don't believe him. If these rednecks really were serious about their heritage, why not wave the Confedederate National Flag instead of the Confederate Battle Flag which for more than a century has been code for "I hate Black folks". When did all the southern state capitals start flying the confederate battle flag?..only until the late 1950's when they were fighting the Civil Rights Movement. Only then. So when a Republican Governor wants to wave the Stars & Bars this month, its not Heritage, It is really "I hate Obama Month".

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 6, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Progressives, into the breeches. Recall this joker from office.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | April 6, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

A good leader and historian would have called attention to that era. Instead of "Confederacy Month" which is just outright racist, perhaps it could have been a month of remembering that time in history which included the cofederacy, but also included slavery, and the most devastating war in our nation's history. Call attention to it, with a call for remembrance, and reconciliation. What he's doing now is not leading, its just kinda weak.

Posted by: 123cartoon | April 6, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Whereas: McDonnell is a coward;
Whereas: Treason and Slavery weren't that bad;
Whereas: Why not have a Nazi History month too;
Whereas: If you can't govern because you are beholden to seditious factions as the root of your power, you must divide and conquer;
We hereby declare war on reason to celebrate evil in Virginia. All in favor...

Posted by: good1 | April 6, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Great! The Republican Party is now appealing to racists just in time for the election in Nov. 2010. What next Nazi Remembrance month? Oh and it so happens we have a black President who infutiates a lot of racists. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

Posted by: wbruzzowashpost | April 6, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Confederate History Month doesn't necessarily have to be a confirmation of civil war era Confederate policy. In fact, it could be very beneficial to have an open discussion of the Confederate mentality so that we can understand, and head off, the influence of Tea Party anarchists.

Posted by: JimZ1 | April 6, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Leave it to one red neck loser to celebrate traitorous insurgent losers.

Posted by: thomgr | April 6, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

What a disgrace!! Did you folks really vote this guy into office?? Following the Virginia governor's lead, I guess the Chancellor of Germany is going to declare May "Nazi History Month". After all, it is part of German History.

Posted by: Illinoisan1 | April 6, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The Confederacy had nothing to do with slavery, it was about economics. There was more slavery in the North than there was in the South. There is a group that continues to make a big deal out of nothing for their own purpose. If that group would get off welfare and do some work maybe they could run the illegals out. But no, that would be like work and welfare is an easier life style.

Posted by: gmclain | April 6, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow...a governor who hasn't been Mau-Mau'd by the forces of the perpetually aggrieved? Times do change. Good on him.

Posted by: luca_20009 | April 6, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

You know what? The confederates were terrorists. That's what they were. End of story.

Posted by: bbcrock | April 6, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Just how tone-deaf can you be to pass a resolution honoring the confederacy 150 years after the fact that doesn't acknowledge slavery or Virginia's terrible sin in supporting it? Honor those who fought for the right to own and beat and rape other people? Why not just pass a resolution honoring terrorism? It wouldn't be any worse.

Republican Tea-Bagger Tone-Deaf, that's how tone-deaf.

Posted by: cbl55 | April 6, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Confederate History Month
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WHEREAS, April is the month in which the people of Virginia joined the Confederate States of America in a four year war between the states for independence that concluded at Appomattox Courthouse; and

WHEREAS, Virginia has long recognized her Confederate history, the numerous civil war battlefields that mark every region of the state, the leaders and individuals in the Army, Navy and at home who fought for their homes and communities and Commonwealth in a time very different than ours today; and

WHEREAS, it is important for all Virginians to reflect upon our Commonwealth’s shared history, to understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War, and to recognize how our history has led to our present; and

WHEREAS, Confederate historical sites such as the White House of the Confederacy are open for people to visit in Richmond today, and

WHEREAS, all Virginians can appreciate the fact that when ultimately overwhelmed by the insurmountable numbers and resources of the Union Army, the surviving, imprisoned and injured Confederate soldiers gave their word and allegiance to the United States of America, and returned to their homes and families to rebuild their communities in peace, following the instruction of General Robert E. Lee of Virginia, who wrote that, “...all should unite in honest efforts to obliterate the effects of war and to restore the blessings of peace."; and

WHEREAS, this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live, and this study and remembrance takes on particular importance as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War, a four-year period in which the exploration of our history can benefit all;

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Robert McDonnell, do hereby recognize April 2010 as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH in our COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.

The only thing missing is the statement:
"Whereas, the state of Virginia in Confederate history stood for the continued institution of slaver and indentured servitude of Africans for profit which was later abolished by the non-Virginian surviving, imprisoned and injured Union soldiers"

Posted by: DoubleUO | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

For the uninformed, uneducated, mentally deficient liberals...the South was INVADED by Mr. Lincoln when they wouldn't continue to do as he pleased. Remember all...the States created the Fed - not the other way around. The South was dead wrong about slavery - right on about the monster called the federal government. History repeating itself now? Your "religious" comments are also foolish and show your agenda. I bet not one of you elitist obama kool-aid marxists are even VA natives. Go home and shut up about our governor.

Posted by: RedStateDave | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. I see no problem with this. Let us look at history and learn by it. Hiding it away just makes it more attractive. Look at the raise in Nazis skinheads in Germany where they have a ban on anything Nazi.

Posted by: jedsdead | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Went to the link. This proclamation is certainly missing several 'whereases.'

As previously suggested, the proclamation completely whitewashes the notion of secession, and misleadingly suggests that a consensus of Virginians -- and not just its powerful economic and political elites -- wanted to leave the Union.

[Disturbingly, the proclamation uses the ungrammatical 'between the states,' when any third-grader knows that the proper English in that case is 'among the states.' Except that the war wasn't fought among the states, but rather, the people of the United States had to use arms to suppress an active rebellion, organized by state, within in the borders of the nation).

And, perhaps most chillingly, are the proclamations final clauses, which essentially set it 'coming attractions' as the 250th anniversary of the U.S. Civil War approaches.

Hopefully outcry from this proclamation will prevent further erroneous, revisionist history lessons in the next installments of this tragic saga.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, we shouldn't shy away from history, even its more difficult moments. But as the head of a state bringing public recognition of the most difficult time in our country for the north, south, black, white, rich, poor, etc., by not even acknowledging slavery or the other difficulties of the civil war in the proclamation...that is revisionism.

Posted by: jro1 | April 6, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse


Exactly. Thank you.

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

And this is the GOP's idea of a "Moderate" consider yourself warned America.

Posted by: notthatdum | April 6, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

gmclain:
"The Confederacy had nothing to do with slavery, it was about economics."

Sure it was. And what was the economy of the Confederacy based on?

Posted by: presto668 | April 6, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

It was a time very different from our own, when slavery and racial oppression were not known to be wrong.

Good to see the Commonwealth coming out so strongly for moral relativism. Sometimes it's a bit inflexible about keeping up with the times.

Posted by: markfromark | April 6, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Now is your chance NORTHERN VIRGINIA.... and follow the lead of WEST VIRGINIA....SECEED!

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 6, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I used to live in VA, thank GOD I moved to DC. However, this doesn't surprise me in the least. Southerners have never accepted the fact that it was a mistake for Confederate States to secede from the Union. They have time and again offered the false notion that their ancestors were fighting for "States' rights" and not slavery. And the rest of the country, in order to "let bygones be bygones" never pushed back strongly enough on that notion. So now we have States openly celebrating Confederate history. That's like Japanese Americans openly celebrating Pearl Harbor Day. Or Muslim Americans openly celebrating 9/11. The thought of the "righteous Confederacy" should have been knocked down a long time ago. It's way past time we take back the TRUE history of this country and tell it like it is! Confederates were treasonous. They deserved much worse than they got, but were spared by the generous Union, in order to repair the damage to the country. Even today, you see the Old Confederacy voting as a bloc, usually against the federal government. The more things change the more they stay the same. African-Americans should go protest in front of the house of Sheila Johnson (of BET fame), who sold herself out by supporting Gov. McDonnell.

Posted by: sachancp | April 6, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Here in TX, January 19th is 'Confederate Heros Day', an official State holiday. VA ain't got nuttin on TX.

Posted by: tbrown17 | April 6, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

apdseal, that's an interesting idea and I don't find fault with it. However, your ideas are not how Civil War history is taught via these remembrances. They are nostalgia for mythic days of glory, not teaching devices for somber reflection on why our country arrived at a civil war or why it was a terrible thing to secede.

Also, note that this proclamation isn't for a Civil War History month, it's for a Confederate History month. There's a big difference.

An aside to rocotten: actually, there was ample debate over Lee-Jackson-King day and that's why L-J day was ultimately split from MLK day.

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The embarrassment of Republican leadership continues. Soon we will be asked to fight the civil war again. Virginia is the proving ground for the national Republican agenda. Is it too soon to begin questioning the competency of elected officials?

Posted by: NewThoughts | April 6, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Let me assure you that not all Virginia residents voted for these retrograde provincials, particularly those of us in NoVA. You can thank RoVA for that. Can't NoVA secede and let NC take RoVA?

Posted by: fluxgirl | April 6, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I’m surprised McConnell didn’t declare that white sheets should be sold tax free, in honor of this great month!

Posted by: BasicInstinct | April 6, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives have always hated the United States of America.

Posted by: Ladyrantsalot | April 6, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"The Confederacy had nothing to do with slavery".....

Good luck in your new job as author and fact checker for the Texas School Board.

Yikes.

Posted by: vze2r3k5 | April 6, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

POST .....BFD

Everyone know the biggest chunk of the Democrat Party spilt from the Union after losing to the first REpublican president, Abe Lincoln.

Yeah so the Democrats are old Confederates.......big deal.....

Posted by: allenridge | April 6, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I am a Virginian and am ashamed because of this insensitivity. At best, under Mickey D's approach, we might as well proclaim May to be British Royalist Anti-Revolutionary Month -- that to occurred in the past in Virginia, at least by many of its inhabitants in the 1770s. And June can be pre-colonial, Native American Month, although I'm not holding my breath on this one.

There is a silver lining here: Mickey D is a lesson for all voters that they should trust in a candidate's background to indicate his or her values, and that some slick campaign management is just trickery. Fool me once....

Posted by: kabej | April 6, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Look, I live down the road from Bennett Place

http://www.nchistoricsites.org/Bennett/Bennett.htm

and I "get" the importance of the Civil War and perhaps setting aside some time each year to revisit its issues. Today we live in a country where governors of Texas and Alaska have "joked" about secession. Well you would joke so much about it if you knew the history of such treason. Virginia's approach is indeed inappropriate and that bothers me.

Now the rest of the south will once again get lumped in with something a stupid aristocratic Virginian said or did.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | April 6, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

There are consequences to elections. This should be a wake-up call to Democrats, black folks and Latinos who say they aren't "enthusiastic" about voting in 2010.

Posted by: NMP1 | April 6, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Never let it be said that the "insulted" libs ever bother to actually read anything (health care reform is but one example) before shooting their months off. Also, Anita "The Red" Kumar certainly does her best to keep the red flame burning. Of course, the Post is still po'd because Virginians dared to reject their annointed candidate "Dirty Deeds" in favor of a conservative. I'll take Virginia over Maryland any day. For the libtards out there who are ashamed of Virginia, MOVE!!! Head up to O'Malley's Utopia where taxes and crime are high, and services are low. Unions rape and pillage every community and drive the cost of doing everything to the high heavens. Get out, and don't let the door bump your touche on the way across the Potomac.

Posted by: panamajack | April 6, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Why not just have a Civil War month? Honor the dead soldiers on both sides that fought, and let us learn from past mistakes.

Calling it a "Civil War" month means we're reflecting on those 4 or 5 years, not honoring "Confederate Month".

Posted by: pcook52 | April 6, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. I see no problem with this. Let us look at history and learn by it. Hiding it away just makes it more attractive. Look at the raise in Nazis skinheads in Germany where they have a ban on anything Nazi.

Posted by: jedsdead | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This isn't remotely the same thing. Germany is not pretending that Nazism (and all that went with it) existed. They have, in fact, done quite the opposite.

The governor's proclamation contains no mention of any kind related to slavery. This is disingenuous at best. If he truly intends that commemorating the confederacy should be a reflection on shared history, then he must be honest. Anything else is inexcusable.

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

We know it, that is way we did not vote for him

Posted by: tqmek1 | April 6, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

apdseal... there is a reason why Benedict Arnold does not have a holiday. Why the Gov. would want to couch treason as "Virginia's Heritage" is just beyond the thinking person's sphere of reason. If Virginians want to examine those events in that light, it certainly does not warrant an entire week of "recognition". Let them celebrate what they've done to change things since and let's see how much they can come up with. You are remiss in calling everyone here a "cretin" because we disagree with you. This type of thinking is what led to that sad conflict in the first place.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 6, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

My Aunt, now 98, loved to entertain the family with all the stories and is still quite proud to belong to the DAR and the Daughters of the Confederacy.

Stories about ancestors walking south from prison camps, farms lost, starting over.

Even she thinks this is "just wroong."

Posted by: thealaskan | April 6, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse


There is a group that continues to make a big deal out of nothing for their own purpose. If that group would get off welfare and do some work maybe they could run the illegals out. But no, that would be like work and welfare is an easier life style.

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Don't be shy, gmclain, who is this "group" on welfare that you're speaking of? Say it!

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

sure, lets celebrate the history of a terrorist organization/government....then can we celebrate the modern day fort sumter equivalents...the attacks in Oklahoma City, the world trade towers and pentagon... and their perpetrators as well?

Posted by: caddisfly | April 6, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Virginia is the South so don't act so surprised. General Lee's home still overlooks DC. It's funny to read all the non-resident comments. They should mind their own business.

Posted by: melador | April 6, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Let's embrace this and teach what the Confederate rebellion was really like--not the romantic fantasies promulgated by people like the governor. And let's not forget the Reconstruction Period, when Southern White terrorists carried out killings and terror not unlike the Taliban and other terrorists today. We can teach all of this.

Posted by: sannhet | April 6, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Why stop there? Why not bring back slavery and lynching mobs?

Posted by: MaS103 | April 6, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

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Don't worry MAS103,, the schedule will be posted soon for LIVE demonstrations -

I believe they are scheduled for APRIL 19th during the next TEA PARTY RALLY (or that RALLY OF THE GUN TOTERS BALL scheduled for VA on that date- the Anniversary of OKLAHOMA CITY)

Posted by: racerdoc | April 6, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Why is the Governor of Virginia honoring treason against the United States. Isn't he proud to be an American?

Posted by: ShannoF | April 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from Philly and NYC. Blacks in Philly have invented something called Flash mobs where 500 Blacks get together and terrorize everyone on sat night in a shopping district. 55 Blacks were arrested in Times Square last week for doing the same thing. Blacks what do you have to say about this?

> Hears crickets

Posted by: Italiaxxx | April 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"We lost the War month"....A long time ago and by the way....were still crying about the war and the election.

Posted by: porcelainproductions | April 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse


The celebration of bondage and slavery!
Gotta love the Grand Old Party
Good luck come November.


Posted by: printthis | April 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

RedStateDave wrote:
".the South was INVADED by Mr. Lincoln when they wouldn't continue to do as he pleased."
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If they actually taught accurate history during Confederate History Month, maybe RedStateDave would not have made the above factless, erroneous statement.

The big problem RedStateDave has are words, cast into deathless bronze, on plaques at The Battery overlooking the harbor in Charleston, S.C.

They are largely accurate, although they boast about students from The Citadel FIRING FIRST upon Fort Sumter, an installation of the United States Military, to start the U.S. Civil War in 1861.

It was a rebellion. The rebels shot first. The Constitution of the United States makes it a requirement that the president of the United States, as commander-in-chief of the nation's armed forces, 'suppress rebellion.'

You have often heard the term 'enemies, foreign and domestic.' Well, they were domestic enemies, who began an aggressive, armed conflict within the boundaries of the United States for their own reasons, whatever they may have been.

Their states were signatories to the American Union. A contract with the nation that could only be destroyed, if even possible, if all states agreed to leave the Union at the same time.

Since most states wished to remain, and those states in rebellion had started killing soldiers and sailors of the U.S. armed forces, and since the U.S. Constitution requires the federal government to suppress all domestic rebellions, the war came.

And the rebels, who styled themselves 'confederate,' were defeated on the field of battle, at great cost to them, their families, and to the entire nation.

That a meditation on what is to be a confederate does not include any acknowledgment of the death and destruction rained down up on this land by those who began their acts of aggression at Fort Sumter, is lacking in a basic component of common morality.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | April 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I guess the 4 percent of blacks who voted for McCain in 2008 were still too much for the GOP party leaders. They won't rest until that number is down to 0.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

As others have said, I find this really repulsive. Why not institute a Nazi History month in Germany, while we're at it? They can argue that it too is a part of their history, and that quite a few ordinary citizens who had no greater agendas on their minds were drafted by the Nazis and died only because they were forced into the army.

How can this happen in this day and age??????

Posted by: sharedgum | April 6, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

YYYYEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
We gonna have us a hanging tonite!!!!!!!

Posted by: devilsadvoc8 | April 6, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I seem to recall that some of the *educators* in this state bellowed like deranged banshees because President Obama was going to speak to school children on the first day of school. Of course, their faux outrage had something to do with his supposedly wanting to *indoctrinate* children into a *socialist agenda.* I'll sit back and watch with interest to see if any of these same *educators* will bellow just as loudly by this obvious attempt to indoctrinate children advocating a revisionist history of Virginia's role in the Civil War. I just hope the school children will have enough time to study the considerable contributions of Thomas Jefferson before he is minimized just to prop up Jefferson Davis.

Posted by: jrobinson3 | April 6, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. I see no problem with this. Let us look at history and learn by it. Hiding it away just makes it more attractive. Look at the raise in Nazis skinheads in Germany where they have a ban on anything Nazi.

Posted by: jedsdead | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This isn't remotely the same thing. Germany is not pretending that Nazism (and all that went with it) never existed. They have, in fact, done quite the opposite.

The governor's proclamation contains no mention of any kind related to slavery. This is disingenuous at best. If he truly intends that commemorating the confederacy should be a reflection on shared history, then he must be honest. Anything else is inexcusable.

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I know Creigh Deeds was a terrible candidate. I know a huge majority of the republican base are fundy nutbags.

I ask only the moderate voters who swung towards Mark Warner in 2001 and Tim Kaine in 2005. Are you happy with your choice? I know he campaigned as a moderate "jobs" candidate, do you think the moderate label still holds?

It's embarrasing that this state STILL in 2010 celebrates the actions of a group of treasonous traitors to the US.

Posted by: jbanks979 | April 6, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

If April is Confederacy month, does that mean we can look forward to May being Klan month and then June celebrating the "good ole days of Jim Crow"?

No wonder "Plantation Bob" didn't publicize this. It proves that his party is the party of the elitist, GOP standing for "Grand Old Plantation". Need we say more.

A once great state in our national history, it seems to never have recovered from the humiliation of 1860-1865 (their own doing I might add). Until they can, they will be forever led by the backward and inbred imbeciles they keep putting into office.

Posted by: admiralj | April 6, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Act now! Get a General Lee hood decal for your 82 Bronco and get a free pair of XXXL Daisy Duke for your woman...

Posted by: ozpunk | April 6, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

See, this is the kind of thing that Republicans just can't help doing -- playing to their racist constituencies.

Confederate History Month? Give me a break. Why not call it Secessionist History Month or White Supremacy Month? I get tired of these crusty, Old Guard Southerners talking about the "glory days" of the Old South. You know, back when people were polite and minorities knew their place.

The war is over. The South lost. It's really time to get over it.

Here, I've got a great idea, governor! How about a "Jobs Month?"

Posted by: sslatten3 | April 6, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

The South Will Rise Again! Yes Virginia is happy w/ it's choice of Gov. If you don't like it - Maryland is just across the river - see y'all later.

Posted by: redsky28 | April 6, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Virginia's army alone would have beaten any northern state, hands down. Bunch of sissies.

Posted by: melador | April 6, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

If only I could afford to move to Maryland.

McDonnell is picking up right where racist George Allen left off.

Posted by: solsticebelle | April 6, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm so angry about this I can't even think of anything civil to say except that there's a lovely little form on his web site to send email to him. I suggest we all USE it!!!!!

Posted by: CLJ11 | April 6, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Here we go. Welcome back to the 19th century. The month of May will become White Christian month.

Posted by: jckdoors | April 6, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness - really - is all I am going to say. I am speechless.

Posted by: kjmoyer16 | April 6, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

The words and behavior of McDonnell and Cuccinelli should not surprise anyone who has half a brain and has given half an hour of their time following Virginia politics in the past 3 years. Conclusion: people who voted for and support McDonnell and Cuccinelli are either Homer Simpson dumb or Right-wingnut Christian Fundies.

Posted by: angelos_peter | April 6, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps if people actually read the proclamation they would understand that it is better to remember, less we forget.
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"WHEREAS, April is the month in which the people of Virginia joined the Confederate States of America in a four year war between the states for independence that concluded at Appomattox Courthouse; and

WHEREAS, Virginia has long recognized her Confederate history, the numerous civil war battlefields that mark every region of the state, the leaders and individuals in the Army, Navy and at home who fought for their homes and communities and Commonwealth in a time very different than ours today; and

WHEREAS, it is important for all Virginians to reflect upon our Commonwealth’s shared history, to understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War, and to recognize how our history has led to our present; and

WHEREAS, Confederate historical sites such as the White House of the Confederacy are open for people to visit in Richmond today, and

WHEREAS, all Virginians can appreciate the fact that when ultimately overwhelmed by the insurmountable numbers and resources of the Union Army, the surviving, imprisoned and injured Confederate soldiers gave their word and allegiance to the United States of America, and returned to their homes and families to rebuild their communities in peace, following the instruction of General Robert E. Lee of Virginia, who wrote that, “...all should unite in honest efforts to obliterate the effects of war and to restore the blessings of peace."; and

WHEREAS, this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live, and this study and remembrance takes on particular importance as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War, a four-year period in which the exploration of our history can benefit all;

Posted by: ahashburn | April 6, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

This is about the tea party motto "getting our country back" which is thinly veiled racist nostalgia for the southern plantation slave days.

Posted by: maddymappo | April 6, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Check to see if Nixon rolled over in his grave.

He created the modern republican party in the south.

Despite Nixon's craven, manipulative and conspiratorial insecurity, was he more of a racist than this republican Govena spawn?

Posted by: thealaskan | April 6, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

This is quite frankly despicable. The Confederacy should have been treated as exactly as the traitorous movement it was. All vestiges of it should have been banned and outlawed exactly the same way all symbols of the Nazi Party was in Germany after WWII. The Stars & Bars of the Confederacy should be illegal. and there should be no monuments to the traitors of the Republic allowed.

Posted by: David-F-NYC | April 6, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean it's O.K. for Germany to have a "Nazi History Month"? Or maybe Virginia will announce such a month.

Posted by: rjoff | April 6, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

But Creigh Deeds was a big ol' meanie, remember? Always trying to tell you that McDonnell was kind of a jerk. No way you should've voted for him, right?

You reap what you sow, VA.

Posted by: dkp01 | April 6, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

gmclain... Where have you been? There are plenty of information sources bebunking your argument of "economics as opposed to slavery". I ask you... what do you suppose the whole idea of slavery consisted of? ECONOMICS. Without the use of slave labor there would never have been an antebellum south. Economics has been the entire reason for the institution of slavery by the entire european / american culture. When you make someone elses argument for them it points out the glaring inconsistancy of your rhetoric.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 6, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Wait, let me put on my surprised face. What Virginia really needs is Slavery Appreciation Month.

Posted by: monongahela79 | April 6, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

A proclamation is ok but instead of Confederate History Month it should have been titled, Civil War History Month.

Posted by: Pensfans | April 6, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell's biggest failing on this issue is forgetting that most people know nothing about the Civil War and think the whole thing was about slavery; ah our fantastic public education for you. Slavery was not even a major reason for the Civil War it was a war over growing federal government oversight and unfair trade practices that kept the north rich and the south poor of which slavery was a small part of.

The "redneck" comments are quite ignorant too; McDonnell was born in Philly and raised in Fairfax County neither of which are rural not to mention the man went to Notre Dame and has a law degree.

Maybe some of you should grow up.

Posted by: flonzy3 | April 6, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks *so* much to all the Virginians who voted for McDonnell, Bolling, and Cuccinelli "for the jobs." I haven't seen any jobs, but I've seen plenty of bigoted, racist, anti-gay, and anti-choice actions from this administration. The only good thing is that McDonnell can't run for governor again, and by the time his four years are up, his administration will have done so much damage that the Democratic candidate will win in a landslide.

Virginia liberals: please vote next time, mkay?

Posted by: scarlet_begonia | April 6, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Bob and the Cooch will get caught with nooses in their office like former Virginia Governor George Allen before more damage can be done on a wider scale.

Posted by: jbanks979 | April 6, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

yesterday, Dan Quayle indicated that he didn't see racism in the tea party movement. And today, a tea party supporter honors the Confederacy.

2+2 guys

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 6, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

hhhmmm, everyone here seems to have an opinion today. Maybe you should have shown up on election day. I can't say I am in support of the proclamation, but I do enjoy the hippocracy of all these posters immediately claiming it is racist, but have no problem using labels such as "rednecks, hill billies who must be a Christian and in the KKK with no education"

You have really proved you have done so much more than anyone else in helping race relations and stereotypes.

My hat is off to you and your liberally ignorant peers.

Posted by: reillydp | April 6, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Anybody want to venture a guess as to how much the Commonwealth of Virginia profits each year on the "Civil War Trails"? How many buses of school kids and tourists visit battlefields all over Virginia, how many authors visit and do research at the Museum of the Confederacy and stay in Lexington, Fredericksburg and Appomattox?
Like it or not much of the war was fought in Virginia and the Governor is just promoting interest in the history of the Commonwealth. It's called tourism.
I guess I should complain to the National Park Service about the Little Big Horn Historical site because I don't like the fact that Custer got his azz kicked.
It's offensive so let's pretend it never happened. I don't like the Salem Witch historical site either because it reminds me of some of my relatives.
We should know all our history even the not so pretty stuff.
I venture to say if the Governor was a Democrat some posting here would be happy that our wicked history was being taught and Virginia's tourism was being promoted.

Posted by: menopausequeen | April 6, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This is exactly why when people ask I've always said I'm from *Northern* VA. At this point, I'm fairly embarrassed to admit that much. Find me a job elsewhere and I'll pack my bags.

Posted by: stacey2545 | April 6, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

this is basically white history month in the state of virgina. once there was a history month for every other color of rainbow this was only a matter of time.

Posted by: dummypants | April 6, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Well if you can't live up to what your platform ran on why not start something. This idiot is trying to focus you on something else than what he stated he stood for and what he was going to do. Call him out! It’s working already!!! Check out the responses. But no less he is a racist and should sport his white sheet to the office for the month.

Posted by: access11 | April 6, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

So glad I left NoVA for college and have never moved back.

If there was no intention on the Gov's part to cater to the white supremacist crowed, they would have gone with "Civil War History Month". I think in honor of this decree, what better way to celebrate than for NoVA to try and succeed from the rest of Virginia.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 6, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

To "skipfrmdc":

Go back and read the words - I did not refer to everyone here as a cretin - but there are those who are.

Also, if the South seceding was treason, was not our rebellion against Great Britain very much the same thing? Having travelled some throughout the UK, there is a different slant on the American Revolution than one gets here - at historical sites we are not viewed as the "good guys." We were viewed as rebels. Obviously, you will wish to point out differences in rationale for 'seceding' but, for all intents and purposes, we did 'secede' from England (one of the prime reasons we were successful was the distance from them and their lengthy supply lines but that's another topic altogether).

I say again, read before commenting - generalizing on a specific is rarely useful. Sorry, got to go, time to catch some rays, maybe even some fish.

Posted by: apdseal | April 6, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Robert McDonnell, do hereby recognize April 2010 as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH in our COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.

The only thing missing is the statement:
"Whereas, the state of Virginia in Confederate history stood for the continued institution of slaver and indentured servitude of Africans for profit which was later abolished by the non-Virginian surviving, imprisoned and injured Union soldiers"

Posted by: DoubleUO | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse NOW, THEREFORE, I, Robert McDonnell, do hereby recognize April 2010 as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH in our COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA, and I call this observance to the attention of all our citizens.

The only thing missing is the statement:
"Whereas, the state of Virginia in Confederate history stood for the continued institution of slaver and indentured servitude of Africans for profit which was later abolished by the non-Virginian surviving, imprisoned and injured Union soldiers"

Posted by: DoubleUO | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: thealaskan | April 6, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

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VIRGINIA'S New State Motto:

"WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE!"

What a dam shame.

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Posted by: A-Voter | April 6, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

they have "recruiters" in each state and then you can only join them if you're a descendant.

Posted by: MNMNT | April 6, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The Governor of Virginia - he says the Federal Government is intruding on states rights with health care and that Virginia will not accepts this law passed by the Federal government. Now he gives a nod to the Confederate groups. Looks like he's ready for more Virginians to die because they either can't pay for their medical care or are rebelling against the Union with all their guns.

Posted by: MysticMan | April 6, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

In an effort for all Virginia Libs to get their collective panties out of a wad, the month of May will now be designated as "Leftest elitists who support any Armed Forces in the world but their own, spend us into insolvency, never found a tax they don't support, save the whales and mass murderers but not the innocent unborn, bow down to a tofu statue of Al Gore month.

Posted by: kingsra | April 6, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

So as a Black-American living in Fredericksburg Virginia - should I take down my 'American Flag' and replace it with the old 'Stars & Bars' this month?

I'm confused, enlighten me someone.

Posted by: question-guy | April 6, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell and Kookanelli are well on their way to promote the fine practice of Slavery, Racism, Discrimination, KKK, Swastika’s, and Flat Earth policies of their benefactors. Their allegiance to Coal, Tobacco, and Oil and desire to slap Veterans in the face for their sacrifices towards a united Union is par for the course as they serve their Confederate Masters. They Lied and hoodwinked the majority of VA Independent voters to get in office as they now pursue their Right Wing Agendas instead of Jobs and Justice.

Posted by: liveride | April 6, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm so angry about this I can't even think of anything civil to say except that there's a lovely little form on his web site to send email to him. I suggest we all USE it!!!!!

Posted by: CLJ11 | April 6, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse


If you'd like to write to the governor's office, you can do so online:

http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutTheGovernor/contactGovernor.cfm

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

apdseal, there's a lot to agree with in your stance that fostering more communication. My response is, Why a month? Why not some kind of place where people can discuss the confederacy, or some kind of single event or forum? To me, reserving a time period for this type of thing is clearly a method of celebration, not of communication. A state-sanctioned celbration puts a stamp of legitimacy onto something. That's an attempt to nullify the voices of those who oppose that something, not to encourage them.

Posted by: Vails1 | April 6, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately for those who want to twist history to fit their own beliefs, no proclamation will change what happened on April 12, 1865.

Posted by: DCFem | April 6, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want - but you will not hear a peep out of Uncle President Obama about it.

Posted by: question-guy | April 6, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I see nothing wrong with this proclamation. A lot of the state is dedicated to tourism and those tourists come because of the Civil War. There is nothing in the proclamation about "celebrating" the confederacy, but it is a part of this state's history so deal with it.

Posted by: kmccormack1 | April 6, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate that so many Americans nowadays think the Civil War was only fought over Slavery. There were a host of other issued involved- how much power was reserved for the States vs the Federal government, an agrarian society vs an industrial one were two others. The outcome of this war changed our nation forever. Winston Churchill called our Civil War "the only war that needed to be fought".
I would encourage people to read up on this struggle before they castigate the Governor.

Posted by: gregdn | April 6, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

We neither can nor should run from history, as James Joyce wrote "history is a nightmare from which I'm trying to wake." We would do well to read the causes of the Civil War and actually how they relate to this Teabagger movement and the agitation stirred by Sarah Palin and her ilk. To me the Teabaggers and Confederates are related, both anti-Americans.

Posted by: aronmor | April 6, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

This is who Republicans are today -- all white and reminiscing about the good old days.

Posted by: stovetop | April 6, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

A holiday/memorial for terrorists...that's all it is...

Posted by: george_w_bush0 | April 6, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

We neither can nor should run from history, as James Joyce wrote "history is a nightmare from which I'm trying to wake." We would do well to read the causes of the Civil War and actually how they relate to this Teabagger movement and the agitation stirred by Sarah Palin and her ilk. To me the Teabaggers and Confederates are related, both anti-Americans.

Posted by: aronmor | April 6, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I like the decision.

While I am an unapologetic progressive, I had numerous ancestors who fought for the south. They were brave people who did their best with life and culture as they understood it at the time. I am proud to be their descendant.

That beimg said, I hold no truck with neo-secession groups and white supremacists masquerading as heritage groups. Both are a disgrace and dis-honor the 600,000 lives that were lost between 1860 and 1865.


Posted by: BaltimoreCotls59 | April 6, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I see nothing wrong with this proclamation. A lot of the state is dedicated to tourism and those tourists come because of the Civil War. There is nothing in the proclamation about "celebrating" the confederacy, but it is a part of this state's history so deal with it.

Posted by: kmccormack1 | April 6, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse


If the proclamation were honest about that history, there would be no argument. It is not.

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The "redneck" comments are quite ignorant too; McDonnell was born in Philly and raised in Fairfax County neither of which are rural not to mention the man went to Notre Dame and has a law degree.

Maybe some of you should grow up.

Posted by: flonzy3

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Bob McDonnell comes from hard core right-wingnut conservative Diocese of Arlington, and got his papist brainwashing at Bishop Ireton. Obviously that brainwashing was followed by a liberal alcohol rinse in the shadow of Touchdown Jesus at Notre Dame.

The big issue with people who are born and raised catholic is whether and when they will begin to think for themselves, and stop letting a reactionary, pedophile-protecting diocese do their thinking for them.

In Bob McDonnell's case, he's reached his mid 50s, and we're still waiting to see if he can think for himself.

Posted by: angelos_peter | April 6, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Geez, can NoVa secede from this Commonwealth of Stupidity? This guy is against gays, against education, pro-road building and now pro-Confederate. Wonder if he'll raise the Stars & bars over the state house?

If my ancestor was a german speaking farm boy and rode with his cavalry unit all the way, um, to Georgia, could I get a special dispensation and not celebrate Confederate History Month?

Posted by: beta1 | April 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh, yah...this is gonna help tourism...I really want to go and spend my money in a place that thinks giving props to a bunch of redneck, racist clowns is a good thing.

You don't need Confederate Month to find out why the war was fought - all you have to do is finally - at last - teach it in southern schools. Northern schools already know why it was fought. Only southern children are continually kept ignorant of what their forefathers fought for.

YOU LOST THE WAR - SLAVERY ENDED - GET OVER IT.

Posted by: nadinem | April 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

HE DID IT QUIETLY!!!

Posted by: clifton3 | April 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Hi had no earthly idea that Ken Coochinutjob is now the governor!

Wow, I must have been asleep when that happened!

Posted by: SwellLevel5 | April 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Abe Lincoln has somehow registered independent.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

sure there are good reasons for studying the Civil War. that's why they teach it in school. if you think for one minute that the governor's proclamation was made in the spirit of educational excellence, you're insane.

he was pandering to a base. naming a month for something is an honorific act. if you want to encourage its study, you don't name a month after it. there's no 'evils of racism' month. instead, you quietly talk to the education folks about how its being taught in state schools. you name a month for things you want to honor or celebrate, and the confederacy is not among them.

Posted by: JoeT1 | April 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait until Bob McDonnell proclaims September at Prince Edward County Massive Resistance to School Desegregation Month.

Posted by: angelos_peter | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Ah, so flonzy3 sees him/herself as an intellectual (and historian). I love how these revisionists stop at half the story. They say the Civil War was fought over "growing federal government oversight and unfair trade practices..." Yeah, keep going genius. Growing federal government oversight of BLACK peoples' civil rights. The industry of the South was agrarian, and therefore slavery was the only way Southerners could gain wealth. I suggest you misled people go read, "Slavery by Another Name" and see how the South didn't let the Civil War loss stop their ultimate goal, oppressing blacks forever. The Reconstruction Period led to Jim Crow, and on and on. These people are ridiculous in their attempt to change facts. But, much like the Jews and the Holocaust, African-Americans won't forget the truth, and we'll never let America forget the truth. So keep talking revisionists, you'll never succeed in covering up the shame your ancestors have brought on your name.

Posted by: sachancp | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Hi had no earthly idea that Ken Coochinutjob is now the governor!

Wow, I must have been asleep when that happened!

Posted by: SwellLevel5 | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. Maybe we can have "Klan History Month" next.

THE SOUTH LOST. GET OVER IT.

Posted by: flyingdonut | April 6, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

For all those that say we should read it, and that it promotes tourism and allows us to discuss and study the issues - we state this is mere subterfuge for the idea of honoring the confederacy. If it was truly the plan to promote tourism then call it "Civil War History Month" and don't attach the "Confederacy" and all the things they stood for, and in effect honor them (despite the rhetoric your spouting to try and make it more palatable). They lost and are NOT to be honored!

Posted by: tigger_z2k | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this is embarrassing.

Posted by: staticvars | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

It's unfortunate that so many Americans nowadays think the Civil War was only fought over Slavery. There were a host of other issued involved- how much power was reserved for the States vs the Federal government, an agrarian society vs an industrial one were two others. The outcome of this war changed our nation forever. Winston Churchill called our Civil War "the only war that needed to be fought".
I would encourage people to read up on this struggle before they castigate the Governor.

Posted by: gregdn | April 6, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but what was the basis of the South's agrarian society? No one (at least, no one who knows better) is arguing that the Civil War was related only to slavery, but many certainly are pretending it wasn't a factor. The governor included. If one is going to learn from history, one must face all of it.

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Vey is mer! This guy has a political tin ear.

Understand that there were more complex issues than slavery: tariffs, state's rights, "Northern agression", and that Lincoln only outlawed slavery in Conferate states. Also understand that there were black Confederate soldiers who fought willingly.

However....one cannot separate slavery as the reason for the Confederacy. W/O slavery, the Confederacy would not have been economically sustainable.

Posted by: ajlerner1 | April 6, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Shocking, Absolutely Shocking

All eyes on Northrop Grumman for rewarding this, not to mention all the other US Govt Money flowing into NoVa's wealth, we're all subsidizing these old boys and their fun.

Posted by: LeastOfThese | April 6, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

That's what you get when you have a state filled with redneck evangelicals, like the governor and AG.

Posted by: kenk3 | April 6, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"State's rights" is the battle cry of those in the minority, from New England in the war of 1812 to the present day teabaggers. And states rights hurt the Confederacy as states like South Carolina were unwilling to cooperate with Jeff Davis and Richmond. But despite whatever revisionist history the Texas text book committee and McDonell come up with the the "states right" that caused the Civil War was slavery (or as others have called it here - economics - the economics of getting other people to do your work for you and providing them with the minimum subsistence living and no rights.)

Posted by: temuchin | April 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"This move seems remarkably tone deaf. McDonnell ran on a jobs platform. It is reasonable to think that people voted for him because they thought he could deliver on the Virginia economy and on jobs creation."

Then they should be charged with reckless endangerment. Did you read this guy's master's thesis? The anti-gay thing and the pro-confederate thing are totally consistent with his stated world view.

Posted by: mjtraxler | April 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Slavery is a vile and terrible institution, and no one can justify its existence. That said, my great great grandfather, who owned no slaves and could have cared less about saving slavery, enlisted in the Virginia cavalry, to fight for his state. And, I am proud of his decision to do so.

So many people these days don't seem to take into consideration this country's concept, in the 1800's, of the proper role of a Federal government. This nation, just 90 years before, fought veheminently against being under the thumb of a strong national government for their own freedom. And yes, the British called it tyranny, but we didn't.

The subsequent mood in the country, from the framing of our constituion to well into the 1800's was decidely against a strong Federal government. Their belief was that the role of a central government was to provide for a national defense, and very little else. Back then, a strong central government was not to be trusted (and by the way, we are seeing that mood again, aren't we?).

Slavery, of course was the tinderbox that set off this whole fight, but most men didn't join either army to fight over the slave issue. Hundreds of thousands of men faced each other on many battlefields in this war. Most men in blue didn't care any more about freeing the slaves as those in gray did in keeping slaves. If you don't believe this, visit Gettysburg and look across that mile of open field where Pickett sent his men into the terrible fire, or the narrow little bridge at Antietam where so many men had to funnel into a slaughterhouse on a small bridge across the creek. Ask yourselves whether you would have pressed ahead. Take either side, free slaves or maintain slaves, it doesn't matter. I believe most would not - not over an issue for which they had little stake.

I realize this is the old "States Rights" argument so many people in the South cite, but I believe that, as terrible as slavery is, this was the real issue that had countrymen taking up arms against each other. And as such, I believe it to be proper and appropriate to honor those who fought so hard and died for what they believed. Virginia is trying to honor their valiant soldiers. Is that so wrong?

Posted by: Rick11 | April 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Any comments from Shiela Johnson, Doug Wilder, or Mike Steele yet?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Governor, does this signing indicate that you would support a bid by Northern Virginia to separate from Virginia and become the 51st state? It's all in the Confederate spirit, you know.

Posted by: brothertobrother | April 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

To "skipfrmdc":

Go back and read the words - I did not refer to everyone here as a cretin - but there are those who are.

Also, if the South seceding was treason, was not our rebellion against Great Britain very much the same thing? Having travelled some throughout the UK, there is a different slant on the American Revolution than one gets here - at historical sites we are not viewed as the "good guys." We were viewed as rebels. Obviously, you will wish to point out differences in rationale for 'seceding' but, for all intents and purposes, we did 'secede' from England (one of the prime reasons we were successful was the distance from them and their lengthy supply lines but that's another topic altogether).

I say again, read before commenting - generalizing on a specific is rarely useful. Sorry, got to go, time to catch some rays, maybe even some fish.

Posted by: apdseal | April 6, 2010 3:03 PM
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Yes, the British viewed the American Revolutionaries as rebels and traitors to the crown. Captured American soldiers were often hung as traitors. So what?

One huge difference between the American colonies and the Confederate States is that the colonies had NO voice in the British Parliament, which exercised ultimate authority over the colonies. In contrast, those states that joined the Conferacy had enjoyed representation in Congress and were entitled to vote in Presidential elections prior to their succession.

Posted by: luridone | April 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Good old boys acting up again, ask me if I really care. BACKWOOD HILIBILLIES

Posted by: shipfreakbo214 | April 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want about the CSA. Once the rebellion was put down, there was nothing to stand in the way of the unchecked growth and expansion of the Federal Government,

Nothing but elections.

Posted by: markfromark | April 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Please keep the name-calling, personal attacks and spamming to a minimum, folks. I don't like deleting your comments any more than you like seeing them deleted.

Christopher Dean Hopkins
Deputy Editor, Local Politics and Government

Posted by: Christopher Dean Hopkins | April 6, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Thank you to Shelia Johnson for helping to elect this closet segregationist/racist. What a good use of your Black Entertainment Television largess.

Posted by: tlc20011 | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

My letter to McDonnell:

Your support for Confederate Murderers and Rapists is beyond belief. The Confederacy enslaved millions of Blacks while systematically murdering and raping to keep them in terror. Apparently there is no limit to your and Kookanelli's Right Wing allegiances and as an Independent voting veteran I will pray that your actions do not further stray from the agenda for Jobs and Justice that Virginians deserve.

I can only imagine that your next actions will be open support for the KKK and displaying Swastikas in government offices. I pity the public servants, police, firefighters, teachers, medical workers and others who have to suffer under your administration as you have alienated anyone who recognizes the Confederacy history of Slavery and terrorism.

Posted by: liveride | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

where's william t. sherman when you need him?

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

He could have called it "Southern History Month" and avoided the contention. For good or ill, they have their own history. That's fine. But celebrating a five-year period only -- and one which is grim by any measure -- seems daft.

Posted by: Matthew_DC | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Coming in June, Germany proclaims June "National Socialist" month.

"As I read it, this proclamation is more designed to get people to study the issue rather than simply being a tribute," he said. "We would like everyone to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle. At the very least, we'd like them to study why they went out and did it. And I think the proclamation could be construed either way." Brandon Goebbels.

Posted by: Gettysburg1 | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

And I've always thought that West Virginia was the dumber of the two Virginias.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I think this is a regrettable vestige of the past, and a terrible error in judgement on the part of the governor. I cannot help but wonder how African-American students resist the urge to spit on the floor at the suggestion that one should honor Confederate history.

I know, I know, that brave men fought and died on both sides of that conflict. But the brave men of the Confederate armies fought (and killed other brave men) in the name of a heinous evil. We should not ever let anything obscure that fundamental fact. But Virginia's governor has done just that.

Posted by: EJP1 | April 6, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

IF there is going to be a Confederate History Month, it should be May, not April.

April is the month the Civil War started. May is the month the war ended. Celebrate the ending of the Civil War, not the beginning of it.

The Governor is a moron. Deeds, why were you such a crummy candidate?

Posted by: jb1151 | April 6, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash: VA has declared May as "Deliverance" history month....squeal like a pig"..."with that purdy mouth"...

Posted by: logcabnnut | April 6, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, I live in VA, and I didn't vote for him. I encourage everyone who feels this is an abomination as I do to let the Governor know as I just did by sending him an email from his web site.

Posted by: Kellygirl | April 6, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey Governor McDonnell! Why don't you and AG Cuccinelli get together on the State Capitol steps and sing a couple of stanzas of Virginia's State Song "Emeritus"?

Carry me back to old Virginny,
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow,
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring time,
There's where this old darky's heart am long to go.

There's where I labored so hard for old massa,
Day after day in the fields of yellow corn,
No place on earth do I love more sincerely,
Than old Virginny, the place where I was born.

Posted by: angelos_peter | April 6, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Save youah Confederate money, boys, the Saouth will rahse again . . .

Posted by: chuck8 | April 6, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

It's funny to read all the non-resident comments. They should mind their own business.
Posted by: melador

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Virginia resident since 1975. NC before that. Southern parents. Aghast at McD's proclamation.

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate Governor Bob reminding me yet again why I did not vote for him. I did not actually expect he would come up with a viable transportation solution because the plan he touted before the election to sell the ABC stores was a mix of fantasy and crap. But at least I thought he might have the good sense to not remind Fortune 500 companies and potential investors, people who might actually bring jobs and economic growth to the state, that the folks in charge here are throwbacks to the segregationist era. Between the Attorney General's crusade to bash the gays wherever he can and this salute to the Old South, we'll be lucky to have any economic growth at all for the next two years. Way to go - keep it up boys.

Posted by: da55 | April 6, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell is a dope and he works very hard to prove that fact every day. Can't wait to see what he plans for GLBT History Month.

Posted by: tsummers1 | April 6, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Let's celebrate the kidnapping of Africans, the Rape of children and women , the beatins and murder of adults,all in the name of the Confeds.
Long live the rapists, the killers, the thugs, the theives of the old south!

Posted by: newagent99 | April 6, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Well done, Governor.

Posted by: Jack_Burden | April 6, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I like the decision.

While I am an unapologetic progressive, I had numerous ancestors who fought for the south. They were brave people who did their best with life and culture as they understood it at the time. I am proud to be their descendant.

That beimg said, I hold no truck with neo-secession groups and white supremacists masquerading as heritage groups. Both are a disgrace and dis-honor the 600,000 lives that were lost between 1860 and 1865.


Posted by: BaltimoreCotls59

Agreed. I also have ancestors that fought for the state of Virginia. 99% of those that fought didn't own slaves and were defending themselves and their families from invaders. They weren't bad people and in a state where a significant portion of its inhabitants are descended from those who fought in that war it makes sense to both honor them and revisit the historical factors that led to the war. And if you've ever stepped outside of Arlington there are already plenty of monuments and museums that honor those that fought so it really shouldn't come as any surprise. If you don't like it move somewhere else.

Posted by: duder | April 6, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Gee, I thought the Confederacy and the Civil War were just part of "American History," for which there are already 12 months.

Posted by: tkoho | April 6, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

you guys for the famous line " Squeal like a pig"! opps my bag, this guy got it right!

Newsflash: VA has declared May as "Deliverance" history month....squeal like a pig"..."with that purdy mouth"...

Posted by: logcabnnut | April 6, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Ronnie62 | April 6, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

My goodness such ignorance. Do these people have no idea how to read and understand history? Do they have no knowledge of the KKK and who the founders where?

Looking at the postings here it is obvious that the liberal Democrats who are posting do not realize the party of slavery and of the KKK is the Democratic Party.

Perhaps it is time you learned history and found out what the Confederate States were truly fighting for, you might just realize you have been lied to for years.

Indentured slavery, well one could call the new student loan program indentured servitude, let the government pay for your school and be indentured to them at 10% of you pay for years to come. Modern slavery we could call welfare and the health care bill. These put you in dept to the government for the rest of your life.

There use to be a song that went like this:
Load 16 tons and what do you get another day older and deeper in dept.
St. Peter don't you call me cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store.

Only the company store would be the government today.

You can call it by a different name but the affect is the same.

You have no high moral ground here. Perhaps if you truly studied history in place of parroting what other's tell you you might understand that you are being walked to the beach and the ship in the harbor is not a cruse ship but a ship to slavery.

By the way States Rights is not treason it is in the Constitution. You might want to read it for yourself, you are bright enough to read and comprehend what you have read are you not?

Education is a scary thing is it not liberals when it does not follow along your propaganda lines.

What is the difference between a liberal and the KKK. Nothing except a white sheet.

Posted by: jace1 | April 6, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Also, if the South seceding was treason, was not our rebellion against Great Britain very much the same thing? Having travelled some throughout the UK, there is a different slant on the American Revolution than one gets here - at historical sites we are not viewed as the "good guys." We were viewed as rebels. Obviously, you will wish to point out differences in rationale for 'seceding' but, for all intents and purposes, we did 'secede' from England (one of the prime reasons we were successful was the distance from them and their lengthy supply lines but that's another topic altogether).

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other than an understanding of history too shallow to support mosquitoes, you do cause one to reflect as to why with so many irish and german immigrants, the U.S. sided with the allies and sadly the mind set that led to WWII.

but whatever.

The Victors write History.

The Brits and the Confederates lost.

Posted by: thealaskan | April 6, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Bob McDonnell = Jim Gilmore 2.0

Posted by: angelos_peter | April 6, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I guess I'll celebrate Virginia's Confederate heritage by honoring my ancestors from Massachusetts who died in Virginia (and South Carolina) fighting and defeating the Confederacy. What at travesty!

Posted by: ChrisC8 | April 6, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

The proclamation hints that the Confederacy was righteous, they were just overwhelmed.

I have no problem letting Virginia secede.

Posted by: James10 | April 6, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I have lived in Virginia for most of my life, but I have no Southern roots.

I did not vote for the current governor, and I disagree with his decision.

Posted by: swissmiss150 | April 6, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

As a resident of Northern Virginia for more than 50 years, I can honestly say that despite my efforts to set the bar as low as possible, the actions of Virginia politicians and voters have rarely failed to underwhelm my expectations. McDonnell and Cuccinelli are the latest "success" stories, and that was with the bar at its lowest possible setting.

Posted by: angelos_peter | April 6, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

jrobinson3 makes a good point. This story is incomplete without a reaction from Sheila Johnson.

Posted by: ajlerner1 | April 6, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I shudder to think only a few bridges across the Potomac separate me from McDonnell's Commonwealth. Hope he doesn't have a map to Fort Stevens.

Posted by: mojo6 | April 6, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I expected nothing less than negatives from readers of the DC's main liberal news source.... The world beyond the beltway doesn't give a rat's tail about your comments. I'm proud of my ancestors who fought for the CSA. Diversity is great, isn't it? Go on and feel good today.... we'll feel better in November. May the majority of voters win!

Posted by: GotouttaDC | April 6, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Yes, shamefully, the state song is real. (There are verses that are worse.) As I said, we must be honest about the state's history...

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

All the States that are suing to challenge Obama's Health Care legislation plus the Tea Party activists + the IRS plane guy, the Pentagaon shooter, the Holocost museum shooter + the groups sneding letters threatening democratic state governors and legislators = the new rebellion. This looks like a loosely organized attempt to overthrow the governement.

Posted by: MysticMan | April 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

yawn. who cares?

Posted by: loux24 | April 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I do not agree wtih this at all. This now makes three issues the Republicans have done in this state that are absurd. They pass 3 laws and the governor just as stupidly signs them - having VA opt out of the medical insurance coverage and the state filing suit against the Federal Government, and allowing people to carry concealed weapons into bars, but not being allowed to drink - NOW THIS. Not a surprise but unexpected. Perhaps as they make more and more stupid decisions, the people will make better choices in 4 years when we can dump these idiots!!!

Posted by: DRSMERC11 | April 6, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Education is a scary thing is it not liberals when it does not follow along your propaganda lines.

What is the difference between a liberal and the KKK. Nothing except a white sheet.

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Wow, i worked with a guy from Bulgaria.

Did you two attend the same youth group?

Posted by: thealaskan | April 6, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Poor Bob mcD....he should be back in 1810 with his boy Kennie C...they could both compare how many slaves they owned...disgraces to VA

Posted by: fairness3 | April 6, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

This move seems remarkably tone deaf. McDonnell ran on a jobs platform. It is reasonable to think that people voted for him because they thought he could deliver on the Virginia economy and on jobs creation.

Does reviving Confederate history month create jobs? No. So why would he go picking a fight on this one? Doesn't make any sense, much like Cuccinelli's picking a fight on protected status for sexual orientation within what seemed like moments of taking office. Too many unforced errors.
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Great questions...

ANSWER: He has no viable solution to create jobs. Republicans never do... so they find something else to platform... usually fear, hatred and bigotry.

Posted by: veronihilverius | April 6, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's about time for the good governor to blame and fire his chief of staff, or director of communications, or whoever thought the proclamation was a good idea. I'm certain he'll slough the blame off his teflon grey frockcoat. Shame on him for swallowing the SCV's swill. (If you want some nightmarish reading, visit their website. Here's its opening sentence: The citizen-soldiers who fought for the Confederacy personified the best qualities of America.)

Posted by: goosecrick1 | April 6, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I bet the good ole' boys are driving like heck to get to the store to stockup on Clorox. Gotta brighten those whites for the burnings ... oops ... I mean festivities. Virginia is for Apartheid Lovers.

Posted by: blackforestcherry | April 6, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell's title can now be changed from Governor to Goobernator.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Good old governor bob. Catering to the redneck jerkoffs. what did you expect.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | April 6, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

They heroically fought & died for the right of whites to own blacks, no more no less. This crap about unchecked Federal power is and was a myth. After all, they loved unchecked Federal power when it was used to return runaway slaves. But when they thought that the Federal government could constrain their right to own human property, they decided on treason & war rather than the political process.

Just like 2008/2009, there was all this doomsday talk before the president-elect even got into office. The reality wasn't at all like they predicted in 1860 or 2008.

They lost a third of the state and all they were allowed to keep was their honor. No wonder Virginians always talk about their honor. It was only by the grace and charity of President Lincoln & General Grant that they were even allowed to keep their honor. Most would have died of starvation on the way home if General Grant hadn't given them rations from the big bad Federal government.

Is the next month going to be to honor those brave soldiers and sailors that fought and died fighting communists and communism under the Nazi flag?

Would they honor those that fought & died defending their lands and families all across Virginia from subjugation by the English colonists?

Posted by: cyberfool | April 6, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the postings here it is obvious that the liberal Democrats who are posting do not realize the party of slavery and of the KKK is the Democratic Party.
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No, WAS the Democratic party, now is the GOP due to Republicans courting racist Southern whites ever since civil rights passed under LBJ.

"Perhaps it is time you learned history" -- Physician, heal thyself.

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell and Kookanelli are well on their way to promote the fine practice of Slavery, Racism, Discrimination, KKK, Swastika’s, and Flat Earth policies of their benefactors. Their allegiance to Coal, Tobacco, and Oil and desire to slap Veterans in the face for their sacrifices towards a united Union is par for the course as they serve their Confederate Masters. They Lied and hoodwinked the majority of VA Independent voters to get in office as they now pursue their Right Wing Agendas instead of Jobs and Justice.

Posted by: liveride | April 6, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"Looking at the postings here it is obvious that the liberal Democrats who are posting do not realize the party of slavery and of the KKK is the Democratic Party.

Perhaps it is time you learned history and found out what the Confederate States were truly fighting for, you might just realize you have been lied to for years."

Way up at the beginning of the comments, I predicted posts like this. Cha-CHING!

Soooooo easy.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Because of all the Civil War history in Virginia, a month to reflect on the Civil War would make sense. Singling out the Confederacy is just weird though.

Posted by: monocles | April 6, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Outside of Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria VA is a typical backwards southern state.

Posted by: jabreal00 | April 6, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

**Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) has quietly declared April 2010 Confederate History Month**

The tin ear of a party that just doesn't get it.

a) The Confederacy was tyranny to African Americans

b) There won't be anything "quiet" about it...

Balkingpoints / www

Posted by: RField7 | April 6, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

6 out of 10 liberals probably couldn't tell you when the Civil War happened without googling it first....lets hear it for WiFi at the local Starbucks!

Come on, these are the same panty-sniffers who think the "Stars and Bars" refers to the Confederate battleflag.

And I'm a NY'er.

Posted by: luca_20009 | April 6, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

My question, after reading the comments of the spokesman of the Sons of Confederate Veterans (that the proclamation "is more designed to get people to study the issue rather than simply being a tribute" and his organization "would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle"): if this were true, then why isn't the proclamation for "Civil War" History Month instead of "Confederate" History Month? Yes, we should honor the sacrifice of those brave men who went out and died in battle . . . to preserve the Union and end slavery.

Posted by: MinnecticutYankee | April 6, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

**Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) has quietly declared April 2010 Confederate History Month**

The tin ear of a party that just doesn't get it.

a) The Confederacy was tyranny to African Americans

b) There won't be anything "quiet" about it...

Balkingpoints / www

Posted by: RField7 | April 6, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Like it or not, the Confederacy/Civila War was a major part of our nations history and Virginia was in the heart of the battlezone. The Civil War was not just about slavery and bigotry, it shares many similarities with what caused the Revolutionary War. Virginia tourism has a large Civil War bit and we need the tourism dollars that the events many of these group put on generate.

Posted by: schnauzer21 | April 6, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Treasonous, racist Virginia. Can someone remined them it's not 1860 anymore?

Posted by: HillRat | April 6, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Good heavens. Why on earth would anyone want to actually teach historical accuracy if it might hurt someone's feeeelings or cause someone distress. It's just not politically correct and if there's one thing you get from reading all these comments it's that one must be politically correct and sensitive to certain groups which we must continue to infantilize.

By all means, let's keep people ignorant of the past, let's keep them stupid so they become dependent on government and let's give them the right not to ever have their feeeeeelings hurt.

Posted by: bandmom22 | April 6, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I can understand the "some" Virginians are "proud" of their Confederate forebearers.

But I cannot understand how that pride can be legitimized by a State/Commonwealth CEO.

Some people, believe it or not, are still sensitive to the overarching causes of that unfortunate event. And I am NOT talking about "States Rights." Everybody knows the real cause of the Civil War, and, given that context, makes this play to the Tea Party a craven act of political gamesmanship and, obliquely, an act of sedition.

Shame on Virginia, yet again.

Posted by: inplants | April 6, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Some of you crybabies should petition the National Park Service to give up all of the Civil War battlefields in VA and build some townhouses.

Posted by: 12oreo | April 6, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Question for Sheila Johnson: Ms. Johnson, many of us knew what Bob McDonnell was all about.? How can you explain your apparent ignorance? And what do you think of him now?

Before you answer, remember that he could have owned you 145 years ago.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Virginians and Native Americans do not support Confederacy history of Slavery, Torture, Rape and terrorism of millions of blacks over generations. I reject this right wing vision for our beautiful state and the land of my ancestors.

Posted by: liveride | April 6, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Good idea. And the perfect motto for Virginia's Confederate History Month is ... "We Lost."

Posted by: kenpittsburgh | April 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Of course.

Posted by: joshlct | April 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Those who argue the war was fought over states rights are correct. The main two rights it was about, the right to succession from the union, and the right to own slaves, after that there were some more trivial issues taxes and whatnot nothing worth shooting one another over.

To those who use the justification that most those who fought in the civil war were non-slave owners. This is also true. But its true because the rich and powerful never fight a war they make their pour do it. Yes some of the Generals and higher ranking officers were of landed gentry. Just because you don't see the CEO of Exxon running around Iraq in a tank does not mean we didn't go there for oil.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Bob McDonnell is bringng utter shame to a Virginia that has become more united. How is this suppossed to unite people? Virginia is fast become a state that says Blacks are not welcomed anymore.

Posted by: lumi21us | April 6, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

All I could think of was the same week as the anniversary of Martin Luther King Jrs assassination - McDonnell makes this month a celebration of the By Gone Days Of Slavery. Niiice. What a creep. People need to vote daggone it.

Posted by: Libramom | April 6, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey hitpoints....apdseal is refering to the overwhelming number of welfare recipients who happen to be white. They are still, for the time being, the majority of those who take advantage of those benefits. I'm in a position to know as I work to assist them daily. He needs to read something written in, at least, the latter half of the 20th century.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 6, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Yet another disgrace for Virginia from Bob and his minnons. Thank God for term limits.

Posted by: ALLOST | April 6, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Its called History Stupid. Its strange the majority of people voted no, but why is it that blacks can have BET, Black Miss America Pagent, black this and black that yet we are supposed to neglect our white heritage, be it good or bad it is part of history and culture. The people responding on here seem to be rather "dumb".

Posted by: buzbeech | April 6, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

"we need the tourism dollars that the events many of these group put on generate."

The clan is soooo good about that hey? Lets have a state sanctioned cross burning and a lynching too!! That will be a big hit withe the clan and tea baggers. Put it on pay per view as well. The Govenor can be the host!!!

Posted by: nowhine | April 6, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Cripes, what is the obsession with the Civil War and the Confederacy down here? It's not like Michigan has "Union Month" or Pennsylvania has "Daughters of the Union".

I've lived here (TN and VA) 30 of my 40 years, and I still don't get it.

Posted by: steve1231 | April 6, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Just let him keep it up....then when he tries to run for VPOTUS he won't have any rational record to run on.

Every public school student in Va eventually studies the Civil War...so the purpose of this what? I thought Va was for lovers...not bigotry.

Posted by: ilcn | April 6, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I guess there's a part of the South that just wants to go on and on and on, and McDonnell thinks he can make political hay by recognizing it. It invents phony names for real things (the War Between the States, not the Civil War), invents alternate names for real battles (Sharpsburg for Antietam) and calls the support for slavery as a viable economic system "states' rights."

The real mystery is why this tone-deaf Governor and his bizarre Lt Governor think it HELPS them to pass inane resolutions written by the Daughters of the Confederacy, go after gays and lesbians and do everything possible to make the 19th century, Know-Nothing tea-baggers happy.

Here's a thought Messrs Gov and Lieutenant Gov: maybe you think appealing to Ole' Virginny got you where you are. Might want to re-think that one.

Posted by: cbl55 | April 6, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't another month be Confederate History Month? April wasn't very good to Virginia ever during the war.

Posted by: Section506 | April 6, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

oy vey

Posted by: philmphile | April 6, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Good heavens. Why on earth would anyone want to actually teach historical accuracy if it might hurt someone's feeeelings or cause someone distress. It's just not politically correct and if there's one thing you get from reading all these comments it's that one must be politically correct and sensitive to certain groups which we must continue to infantilize.

By all means, let's keep people ignorant of the past, let's keep them stupid so they become dependent on government and let's give them the right not to ever have their feeeeeelings hurt.

Posted by: bandmom22 | April 6, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse


No. What people (well, most) are posting about is a *lack of* historical accuracy. Political correctness, as you put it, has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: owl1 | April 6, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Southern & Confederate Inhumanity and Stupidity Month would an appropriate title.
- Unreal, proud to say I did not vote for the Governor or his AG.

Posted by: twpw | April 6, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I sit here reading many of the comments made. It seems to me that people who agree with this decision think it will encourage open discourse about it, thereby justifying it. That should be an ongoing process regardless of whether it is now "Confederate Month". Hatred, bigotry and racism are very much alive and well in this country. I completely disagree that this "recognition" further enhances that discourse. Confederacy stood for slavery and racism. Every time I see a confederate flag I want to punch a redneck. If you don't believe that racism is still alive and rearing it's ugly head, just listen to what people still say about Jews and Blacks, it is still out there citizens! Shame on Mr. McDonnell for making it a special month. I maintain that if you have never been discriminated against, you don't get it. I have and it is not pretty. Ignorance is far worse than stupidity. I agree with the comment about Jon Stewart, he should have a field day with this one!

Posted by: JeffKushner1 | April 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Between McDonell and Kookinelli Virginia is becoming a punchline.

Posted by: barbnc | April 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

This tells you that they will go to any length if it benefits them even slightly, heck they may even partner with isalmic milltants if this supports their cause like 911, to them end justifies the means

Posted by: Jim110 | April 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

This is one of the most thoughtless, reproachful, and combative initiatives I ever seen. And I am 60 years old.

What is the point to the restive and hostile posturing from these erstwhile Conservatives? Appeal to a narrow, white voting block? Fan the fires, yet again, of the sensitive wound of slavery?

I simply cannot understand it. Everything is wrong with this proclamation, and Virginia should hold a referendum to kick this clown out of office.

Posted by: inplants | April 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

As a child in the South, my relatives and peers often spoke of the Confederate South as "our heritage". As an adult I learned that this "heritage" amounted to a treasonous attempt to destroy "Government of the People, by the People, and for the People" in favor of a slave holding confederacy. Apparently the current Governor of Virginia slept through high school history.

Posted by: TrueAmerican1776 | April 6, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I am going to reiterate some of the previous comments because I think they are very important. A vast majority of the men (and women) that fought for the Confederacy were lower/middle class farmers or sharecroppers that owned NO slaves. This was a rich mans war fought by poor men. We cannot condemn these men for fighting to protect their land, their families, their livelihood. Anyone who says that Virginians fought for the right to own slaves or because they were racist is simply ignorant of the complexity of the war. I am not a Southern Sympathizer I am just a sympathizer of those who fought/died who get classified as racist ignorant hicks. Confederate History Month is a good idea if it gets just one person to take a moment to think about the sacrifice, pick up a book and do some research, learn something and formulate opinions based on fact not fallacies.

Posted by: gwcurator | April 6, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I suppose McDonnell and kukluknelli will have a surrender ceremony at the Appomatox Courthouse with a what if twist.

Being a transplanted NuYawker, I am really surprised and gratified at the NO majority poll results. When I moved here 15 years I was afraid of venturing out of Reston having seen a whole bunch of bumper stickers - "happiness is a Yankee headed north". Well VA turned somwhat blue in 2008 and now these Rethuglicans are painting it red again.

Posted by: bgreston | April 6, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

While this dumb redneck is at it why not just reinstate slavery. What an embarrassment.

Posted by: vztownes | April 6, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If Bob McDonnell is so keen to promote Confederate History Month, perhaps the best way to promote it would be for Northern Virginia (NoVA) to secede from the rest of the commonwealth (RoVA). Living history!!!!

Posted by: angelos_peter | April 6, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Its about time. We celebrate Black History month, Gay Pride. Whats wrong with celebrating the Confederacy month? I sort of like it and I'm from PA.

Posted by: almelbe | April 6, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Like other people commenting here, I call for a month of learning about the lives of the people of Virginia between 1861 and 1865--and by that, I mean ALL the people of Virginia, including slaves and free blacks, the majority of white Virginians in 1861 who didn't own slaves, those who were against slavery and those who even broke with their hometowns and families to stay with the United States (not to mention those counties that seceded from Virginia and formed a new state, West Virginia).

Virginia was, and is, a much more complex state than the post-reconstruction "moonlight and magnolias" image of plantation society. McDonnell should have recognized this complexity by proclaiming a Civil War History month, not a specific Confederate History month.

Posted by: SherryLP3 | April 6, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Kinda funny that Lincoln and Grant were Republicans. Seems that the current party has been taken over by the Dixiecrats.

Posted by: steve1231 | April 6, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Another "patriot" celebrating Treason.

Posted by: djah | April 6, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Other communist countries have tried to rewrite history. The former Soviet Union even declared some people as non-persons. They tried to hide from history the same as people are doing in the USA now. History is set in time. You cannot change it, but the pesty liberals will try.

Posted by: johntu | April 6, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

A sweet ole time when people of one race were brutalized, raped, and held in menial subservience by another group dedicated to maintaining this structure.

The Confederacy existed for one reason: To preserve slavery, and they said so continuously and constantly.

Why not just have slavery month?

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of hypocrites. What is the difference between black history month and confederate history month? I had many relatives serve and die in the civil war, does that mean we cannot honor them or their sacrifices? Isn’t that what HISTORY is all about?

Posted by: dcshults | April 6, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Let the Republicans have a couple of states to form their own country, and stop trying to screw up ours. It's high time they got what they wanted, which is to no longer have to be Americans.

Posted by: jeffwacker | April 6, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

If you would take a moment to read the page, you will see that Governor McDonnell is pointing out that this day is part of our shared history and that we should take a moment to reflect on the events that occurred and how these played out over time. It is important to understand our history as it actually happened and not through the revisionist lens of those who would rather pretend otherwise. That is only living in falsehood.

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Really? How about a KKK month since that is part of our shared history. Just because something is part of our history doesn't mean we create a month to basically honor it. The confederates advocated breaking from the union. Basically destroying the UNITED States of America. Why should we celebrate that? It would even be easy to swallow if their motives were at least honorable. Of course they stated their reason for going to war was "states rights" yada yada yada. Isn't that what all these southern states suing the Federal government over health care reform basing their law suite on? States rights? The more things change the more they stay the same.

Posted by: 6thsense79 | April 6, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

The "recognition of history" canard is blown away by the brazen use of the term "war between the states." Anyone who has lived in the South knows this to be a coded approval of the rebellion's aims. Everyone in the who would use the term is well aware of the blank stares or revulsion that would result outside their backwards enclaves in the U.S. or anywhere else in the world.

Posted by: wharwood | April 6, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Fantastic! Confederacy month! First, we sue the federal government over health care reform, now it's confederacy month. How about next we declare tobacco a "medicine?"

Virginia...building a bridge to the 19th century.

Posted by: mcaicedo | April 6, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This proves that the current Republican party and its "Tea Party" invention, the whole opposition to everything Obama proposes, is based on nothing but nostalgia for the Old South and absolute fear of living and working and finding solutions in the present.

Call it "Southern Strategy II". It is a joke. We had the Civil War and the South lost (I am a proud Virginian). We had an election in 2008 won by a bright, conscientious, hard-working Democrat. Republicans lost, their ideas lost, and the "Tea Party" lost. They want to destroy democracy by revoking this election. Go for it McConnell and Cantor! You only show what abysmal fools you are.

Posted by: walden1 | April 6, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Treason is the Reason for the Season!

Posted by: randygoetz | April 6, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I love the oh so open mindedness and tolerance of the left. It's pretty ironic the left loves to preach to everyone else about using acceptable words, and being open minded, and how diversity is such a great thing. Except for when they do not agree with the issue.

However, now the shoe is on the other foot, we see the true left come out.

For all those insulting the Governor and calling Virginia a backwood State, please leave. We do not need people who are closed minded and bigoted living in our great Commonwealth.


Bob McDonnell did the right thing. He said he was going to be the Governor of everyone, not just for whom the left feels is right to remember.

Posted by: irish031 | April 6, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I've always had a Northern take on the Civil War, but many Virginians, and I presume many other Southerners, don't see the Civil War as an attack on the U.S. They see it as defending their State. Slavery was not the central issue for them. Many native Virginians in particular, due to their heritage which includes Patrick Henry, Jefferson, George Mason, James Madison - the writers of the constitution - have a strong sense of States' rights.

Before dismissing them as kooks, nutbags, KKK, etc, it would be wise to understand where they are coming from.

Posted by: sament | April 6, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

It is better to celebrate the brave CONFEDERATES than the dreadful black civil rights/wrongs leaders.

Posted by: ravitchn | April 6, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Stay classy, Virginia. Does any other country that endured a massive civil war allow the losers to celebrate their insurrection and racial supremacy theories? I'm glad I don't live in a state where the toothless hillbilly KKK vote is so coveted that a governor would endorse armed revolution against a freely elected government.

Posted by: vfazio | April 6, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

That's perfect! Confederate history month just happens to coincide with my own personal observance of "Spend None of My Money in Virginia Month."

Posted by: jamiegirard | April 6, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

We can all learn something by studying history, perhaps the best lesson is to not repeat it. I can see that many who have commented here have strong feelings about the Confederacy.

Perhaps it would serve a better purpose, since so much of the Civil War was fought in Virginia, to proclaim "Civil War History Month" instead of Confederate month.

Then again, those interested in the history of that war will study it no matter what the governor proclaims, and those uninterested will not.

Posted by: kbcuz1 | April 6, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I used to live in VA, thank GOD I moved to DC. However, this doesn't surprise me in the least. Southerners have never accepted the fact that it was a mistake for Confederate States to secede from the Union. They have time and again offered the false notion that their ancestors were fighting for "States' rights" and not slavery. And the rest of the country, in order to "let bygones be bygones" never pushed back strongly enough on that notion. So now we have States openly celebrating Confederate history. That's like Japanese Americans openly celebrating Pearl Harbor Day. Or Muslim Americans openly celebrating 9/11. The thought of the "righteous Confederacy" should have been knocked down a long time ago. It's way past time we take back the TRUE history of this country and tell it like it is! Confederates were treasonous. They deserved much worse than they got, but were spared by the generous Union, in order to repair the damage to the country. Even today, you see the Old Confederacy voting as a bloc, usually against the federal government. The more things change the more they stay the same. African-Americans should go protest in front of the house of Sheila Johnson (of BET fame), who sold herself out by supporting Gov. McDonnell.

Posted by: sachancp | April 6, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

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Yes, thank God you moved to DC. Please, stay there.

Posted by: wrs4 | April 6, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Good.

Posted by: wmpowellfan | April 6, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

My, how awful. The next thing you know, the US will be establishing diplomatic relations with Spain, England, Germany and Mexico, enemies of our nation by virtue of past warfare. Why, this precedent might even encourage the exchange of ideas and information relating to the single most defining event in national history. By all means, stop this recognition before it destroys us all.

Posted by: jd5024 | April 6, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Here comes the PC outraged class, come to be horrified at things that don't affect them in any way. I'm sure 99% of the people commenting on this post don't live in Virginia and aren't from Virginia, but we Virginians are very proud of our Confederate heritage and the role our commonwealth played in the most cataclysmic event in our country's history. I am an independent who is not a fan of McDonnell (certainly not his last proclamation that cut gay rights), but I am 100% behind this.

Posted by: justin_timberwolf | April 6, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

hey dcshults: a lot of Nazis died in WWII for their beliefs too. You see Germany "honoring" their "sacrifice?"

I personally think that every Confederate was a treasonous swine, and they're lucky they got a marked grave.

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | April 6, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Well well well ohh...my!

Posted by: Obamasnotyamama | April 6, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what they will want next: "Plantation Days?"

These guys are, not only sick, but willfully meanspirited!

Posted by: abelito | April 6, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Why not a British Empire Loyalist Month for all the descendants of Tories who wanted to remain British?

This is a part of our heritage and history.

How about a Bacon's Rebellion month?

And, especially, a Nat Turner rebellion month?

These are all a part of our Virginia history.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

This is unconscionable! It's like the 1960's (and before) revisited. And we call this person a "leader"???? I don't think so!

Posted by: momE1 | April 6, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, thank God you moved to DC. Please, stay there."

My thoughts, exactly. I love the Old Dominion, so you politically correct types can leave any old time you like.

Posted by: linguist64 | April 6, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

The leftwing posters are truly hypocritical. During the Bush years, they vilified the President and his administration, and were traitors along with the New York Times, WP, and other leftwing rags. The South will rise again, and if you leftwing nimrods don't like, eat your hearts out, losers! Go Dixie.

Posted by: nmg3rln | April 6, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

600,000 dead. The aristocratic slave owners tricked the ignorant people of the South to fight the Union because of "States Rights" and in the specific case to continue slavery--the ultimate abomination to the American Revolution. Sound familiar?

Germany bears a similar cross. Even in the face of the all too well known atrocities committed by the far right in Nazi Germany the neo Nazis are a continuing problem. They have common denominators with "Sons of the Confederacy--hate, racism which arise from fear which of course arises from ignorance.

Confederate history indeed. Perhaps we should help the Germans celebrate Nazi history.

President Lincoln received death in return for his gentle pardons for the traitorous oath breakers Lee and Davis and all the rest. Is that part of the celebration too? Or how about when the Confederates went underground and lynched 5,000 blacks over the next 100 years. Is that part of the celebration too?

Today, we prop up the South's economies with military bases and they turn out more idiots from the Citadel and VMI and Texas A & M. The people of the South are ever ready to serve up their sons and daughters in stupid wars like Iraq and Vietnam. Is that part of the celebration too?


Virginia should watch out for McDonald and his ilk. They have their eyes fixed on the past and the hell of it is that they really don't know what they are looking at.

Posted by: explorers100 | April 6, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Slavery never happened..Total lie.

Mr. Dee Mentia
President and Founder
Flat Earth Society.

Posted by: hayden1 | April 6, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

In a related story Germany has declared April Nazi History Month.

Posted by: lkjlkj | April 6, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: A-Voter | April 6, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

OMG--makes you real proud to be a Virginian. Mr. Republican Governor--you should be ashamed of yourself. As a student of history, the Civil War or the War between the States is fascinating and I have studied it extensively. It is part of our history as Americans but it is not something to celebrate and be proud of- then or now. Let's see--we can celebrate all the people that died on both sides, slavery, economic ruin, segregation, the poll tax,the assassination of Lincoln, the Klu Klux Clan, and so on and so on.

Posted by: jstewartecu | April 6, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

On the one hand, as some posters, say, there are people who feel this is an honorable part of their heritage, and on the other, the Confederates were vicious, evil people fighting to preserve a slave empire rampant with daily brutality.

It's not hard to decide upon which side to come down on. Naziism is a major part of modern German heritage. Some of them are even still alive. Yet we would look askance at anyone celebrating Naziism.

What the neo-Confederates ignore is that a whole bunch of the world, including most of the US had abolished slavery and they were the number one holdouts who declared that slavery was the reason for secession and war and guaranteed slavery in perpetuity in the Confederate Constitution and even its spread to new lands.

This was a slave empire they were running and trying to expand, and they thought the Northern states should allow slavery.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

to those that say that the civil war did not start over slavery, YOU ARE INCORRECT! Some historians believe that the first blows of the civil war were struck in the conflict between Kansas and Missouri. Missouri a slave state was unhappy that Kansas wanted to be admitted to the union as a free state and were willing to openly attack kansas in order to see that the state of Kansas would be a slave state!
Also, any prisoner of war that was black and fought for the north was tortured and then sold into slavery. The proclamation of this policy was declared by Jeff. Davis (President of the CSA) himself

Posted by: Sanglant25 | April 6, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many people complaining about slavery employ "undocumented" employees in order to save a few bucks. This is the modern day equivelant of slavery. Why not hire legal employees and provide them the benefits you give yourself.

Maybe we should remember what got our country into the grand ole mess so that we do not repeat the same mistakes.

Posted by: jhoward_cpa | April 6, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Does the holiday come with a day off? I could be talked into it if we get a day off. I'd love to see my company's reaction having to give a day off for such a bigoted holiday.

Posted by: penguin_patty | April 6, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I am totally speechless! Gov. McDinwidde and Lt. Gov. CiCieDummy are really doing the people of Virginia in. First, they take away the rights of the gays and lesbians, then they use the tax payers dollars to bring a case on behalf of the tax payers of Virginia to stop health care (get sick and die quickly) and now they are signing a declaration of confederacy! Remarkable!

My recommendation to the citizens of Virginia - petition to impeach this governor and the lt. governor before you lose your rights to have a television set.

Maybe you can enlist the help of billionaire BET owner Mrs. Bob Johnson. Since she was helpful in getting him elected. I guess she can still see, I mean with all that egg on her face and all.

Posted by: sun52shine | April 6, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

prime example of the electorate falling for the rhetoric of and voting for another right wing nut who promised one thing and, again, delivered the opposite and embarrassment.

Posted by: blacknight1 | April 6, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

What a scumbag.

Posted by: daweeni | April 6, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

This is great news. Anybody who has done any research into Virginia records during the war knows the huge gaps in records during that time. The destruction of records due to the war and fires at the courthouses is heartbreaking. So much of our history lost.

Hopefully this will help with recreating historical records.

Posted by: playfair109 | April 6, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

WTF. Why not go to a German based community and see if they want to celebrate Nazi history month? Or go see if you can find some klansmen to celebrate the summer of murder in Birmingham?

Celebrating treason and slavery. And they wonder why the rest of the country views them as dumbarshes.

Posted by: John1263 | April 6, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

What's especially galling is that the Southern Slave Empire was a much worse regime than the US as a British colony.

Basically you had a bunch of extremely wealthy aristocrats in the South (and don't let anyone fool you, nearly all the wealthy people [slaveowners] were in the South), holding all the power in the Southern states to maintain a wealth regime of slavery.

And willing to do so with Hitlerian resolve. And they wanted to expand slavery, too.

Many times the Texas revolutionaries are trumpeted as freedom fighters but slavery was illegal in Texas under the Mexicans. After they seceded from Mexico the slave population went from 5000 to 250,000 in 24 years.

What an incredibly ugly event.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

He is honoring people who stood for the wrong cause and lost. By the same analogy Virginia should also declare a NAZI day because a lot of them died bravely fighting the United states.

Posted by: amathur16 | April 6, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The Civil war was a pivatol part of American history and especially VA. Many residents believe we should remember what happened here 140 years ago. Does that make us racists?

Posted by: scudderj | April 6, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

If it isn't about celebrating the Confederacy then why is it "Confederate History Month" and not "Civil War History Month." Just to be fair he Should declare May "Union" or "West Virginia History Month."

Posted by: kreen | April 6, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

"As I read it, this proclamation is more designed to get people to study the issue rather than simply being a tribute," he said. "We would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle. At the very least, we'd like them to study why they went out and did it. And I think the proclamation could be construed either way."

But the proclamation itself says: "…four year war between the states for independence…" "the leaders and individuals in the Army, Navy and at home who fought for their homes and communities and Commonwealth…" "the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens…" "when ultimately overwhelmed by the insurmountable numbers and resources of the Union Army, the surviving, imprisoned and injured Confederate soldiers gave their word and allegiance to the United States of America…"

Haven't we had enough of the falsity of the grand fight for "independence" in order to preserve slavery? The sacrifice of the underclass (both slaves and poor whites) for the privileges of the slave owners? The false impression that just because you were overwhelmed, you are somehow a noble underdog? What outcry would there be if Germany instituted a similar Third Reich month?

Posted by: multiplepov | April 6, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Two problems.

First is the obvious avoidance of the words rebellion and slavery at any point in the statement. It was a fight for independence from what and to do what?

Second, many historians think the South could have easily won the war had they not organized as a loose Confederacy. The land in VA particularly is very defensible against invasion given the West-East flow of rivers from the mountains that allowed defensible fall back position. And the Confederacy as a whole was huge especially by the standards of OPs of the day. Certainly their odds were much better than those of the colonists during the Revolution. They lost because they got out supplied, out maneuvered and sometimes out generaled and out fought.

Posted by: mgferrebee | April 6, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

nmg3rln

If Lee had limited himself to calling Lincoln names, and protesting the war, that would have been one thing. But, he decided to betray his country, and hundreds of thousands died, because of him and dirtbags like him. Too bad they didn't hang Robert and the rest of the traitorous Southern scum, before this anal pore you have as governor was born.

Posted by: daweeni | April 6, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Bring back slavery, blacks would be better off.

Posted by: ravitchn | April 6, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

This is outstanding. My relatives were in the Confederacy from Virginia. The Confederacy is part of US and Virginia History. The Army of Virginia under Robert E. Lee fought with honor and sacrifice and slavery was not the main issue. Go study history yourself. And, the Federal Troops invaded the Southern States--not the converse. There was nothing in the Constitution that forbade a State from leaving the union. Study history several northern States had reserved that right. And, another thing it was only the North that committed atrocities as Sherman did in his cut across Georgia. He burned my Great Great Grandmothers place. Most people that object to the Confederate Flag don't even know what it was. It was a battle flag just like the Army has flags some that represent good things and bad things. My Lai occurred under Army Flag; but, we still honor it. Thank You Governor for having the fortitude to do what is right.

Posted by: Mindboggle | April 6, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Bring back slavery, blacks would be better off.

Posted by: ravitchn | April 6, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from Philly and NYC. Blacks in Philly have invented something called Flash mobs where 500 Blacks get together and terrorize everyone on sat night in a shopping district. 55 Blacks were arrested in Times Square last week for doing the same thing. Blacks what do you have to say about this?

> Hears crickets

Posted by: Italiaxxx
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So a group of black youths are representative of every black in the US? Really? So are we safe to say the KKK represents all whites? How about nazis. They were white.

Posted by: 6thsense79 | April 6, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

The misguided decision by the new governor is but another example of how contemporary Republicans have utterly repudiated the principles their party was founded upon during the 1850's. Was not the Confederacy based upon treason?

The modern Republican party is worse than the Know-Nothing party.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | April 6, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I swear, I do not understand people's deep "love" for the Confederacy. And before you label me a Yankee who just doesn't "get it". I grew up in Virginia, my mother is a member of Daughters of the Confederacy (which makes me shudder), and I have tons of ancestors that died in the Civil War fighting for the Rebels.

BUT IT IS FOR A RACIST/TYRANNICAL CAUSE!

To honor it is the same as to honor Islamic terrorists; Nazis; KKK members, et al groups founded on the premise that a group of people is better than another group of people.

That is what makes me shudder about the Tea Party movement and Republicans embracing the "Don't Tread on Me" logo/flag from the Confederacy days. Sure, it is advocating state rights, but that is just half of what it was centered on.

Plus, a majority of these people are white so it makes me wonder.

Posted by: StumptownChris | April 6, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

The bigot in VA, and that christy terd in NJ are already about as popular as foot fungus. christie is trying to do away with public education and this tool is celebrating treason and slavery. Remeber kids, this is what you get when you forget what republicons really are and accidentally vote for them. Now the good people of VA and NJ are stuck for four years until they can come to their senses and return to Democrats.

Posted by: John1263 | April 6, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

So whats with all the fuss, its no differant than Black History Month!

Posted by: gregthepirate43 | April 6, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I think it’s funny, that as soon as some mentions the confederacy, then names like the KKK and Nazi’s are thrown around. Does anyone read history books anymore? Slavery was happening on BOTH the UNION and CONFEDARTE states. This war was not just a war about slavery, but more about money. Each side of the war had its share of horrible acts, See Sherman’s March. Learn your history before you start judging.

Posted by: Getyourfaxstraight | April 6, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The South LOST. They shouldn't even be allowed to fly the confederate flag. It was a 150 years ago. Get over it. Supporting a govt system that endorsed and promoted slavery shouldn't even happen in 21st century America.

Posted by: oo7 | April 6, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"WHEREAS, April is the month in which the people of Virginia joined the Confederate States of America in a four year war between the states for independence..."

So begins the text of the Governor's proclaimation. In my opinion, and for the sake of accuracy, the word "people" should be relaced with the phrase "some of the people." It should also be pointed out that "some of the people" joined the four year war, not only for their own independence, but also for the right to deny that independence to others.

Posted by: sonny2 | April 6, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Celebrate "Confederate History Month" with our special "Strange Fruit Sorbet" served in a white cone. It's so good, it keeps the chocolate ice cream in its place.

People who celebrate the Confederacy need to be reminded of a few things.

Posted by: leftcoaster | April 6, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I think we should celebrate all the traitors to our country, from Benedict Arnold to Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis.

Posted by: antontuffnell | April 6, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

The Civil war was a pivatol part of American history and especially VA. Many residents believe we should remember what happened here 140 years ago. Does that make us racists?

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A Civil War Month, which apparently is what you'd like to see, would not raise so much outcry. It's the fact that O'Donnell's proclamation calls it Confederate Month, touts the purpose as "independence" and makes no acknowledgement either of the fact that it was an insurrection and that a major goal was preserving the right to retain slavery.

Posted by: multiplepov | April 6, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

We saw 8 years of King George II's vision of America--rape the poor and coddle the rich. We heard about Palin's "real" Americans. Now we see Virginia's governor's vision of history and sexual orientation. Can anyone really doubt what the Republican party and the Tea Party nut jobs want for this Country--that is to go back to the glory days of yesteryear when the only people who mattered were rich white males? What next for Virginia. . .taking away a woman's right to own property and to vote, and giving people of color only a 2/3 vote because they are only 2/3 human?

Posted by: map529 | April 6, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

There were a lot of heroic people in the Confederate military and their stories need to be told. As time has passed their cause has come to be seen in a different light. As time continues to go by the kneejerk reactions of today's angry liberals will also fade, and this designation will be accepted as the sensible historic designation it is.

Posted by: kls1 | April 6, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Another word for the Confederacy: traitors. Just like the Tea Party, it's not about race, right? (wink, wink)

Posted by: Ekkthroi | April 6, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

gmclain wrote:

The Confederacy had nothing to do with slavery, it was about economics. There was more slavery in the North than there was in the South. There is a group that continues to make a big deal out of nothing for their own purpose. If that group would get off welfare and do some work maybe they could run the illegals out. But no, that would be like work and welfare is an easier life style."

Yes the beneficial economics of slave labor. Your revisionist history is impressive. You must be a student of Glenn Beck.

Posted by: rcasero | April 6, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

All these people on this board feel as though they should impose THEIR values on Virginia.

Virginia is not trying to impose its values on them - it is them

Freedom of Speech and Expression is what this country is all about.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 6, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Every form of human configuration gets recognized in our country but these who died for their country.

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

This debate was over 150 years ago.

Posted by: oo7 | April 6, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Confederate History Month? That's so racist!

Not wanting the government to spend billions they don't have? That's so racist!

Opposing socialism? That's so racist!

Daring to voice opposition? That's so racist!

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | April 6, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

This war was not just a war about slavery, but more about money. Each side of the war had its share of horrible acts, See Sherman’s March. Learn your history before you start judging.

Posted by: Getyourfaxstraight
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Sounds like we need another Sherman's march, as the first one didn't do the job. You need to celebrate the defeat of slavery, not it's struggle to survive.

And yes, any time you mention the Confederacy as anything but a vile dead good riddance thing, the proper response is "KKK"

The KKK is the Confederacy.

Posted by: leftcoaster | April 6, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

If you read the language of the proclamation, it sounds more like an effort to promote tourism for the Civil War sesquicentennial. Let the tourists come, visit our battlefields and historic sites, spend their money, and then leave.
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It would have been better if he declared it "Civil War Appreciation Month" instead.I still think that if the states that were part of the Confederacy would like to go back to those days, please do. You can have all the obese people and hardly any production as well as the gun toting church going hypocrites.

Posted by: ai3di | April 6, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Long live Confederate history month! White people have a right to celebrate their own history, so I say we should celebrate the Confederacy,a government run exclusively by white men. May Virginia stand up to the spineless liberals of today with as much vigor as she withstood the assaults of the yankees 150 years ago.

Posted by: tiberiusjacksonIII | April 6, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Its called History Stupid. Its strange the majority of people voted no, but why is it that blacks can have BET, Black Miss America Pagent, black this and black that yet we are supposed to neglect our white heritage, be it good or bad it is part of history and culture. The people responding on here seem to be rather "dumb".

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First, it is not just history. Blacks were slaves of white people in the South, pure and simple. That was pretty gruesome for them: they were whipped, beaten, worked to death, hanged, forced to live in hovels, their women raped by their white masters and overseers. Is is actually only just common decency for the rest of us NOT to glorify the regime that fought to keep them in bondage. And the irony of a Republican governor championing this cause, well, its more than irony; it's nauseating. It is an outrage to the sacred memory of Abraham Lincoln. Finally, blacks have all those special events because they were forced to so so in the past, ie, they were excluded from all of the mainstream white events and media outlets until relatively recently. Do you have amnesia or something? Barely fifty years ago, segregation was alive and well in the South, and a few years before that, in the District of Columbia itself. I suggest YOU learn some history, my friend. I sincerely hope that one day, when race is truly no longer an issue, there will be no separate anything for any race. But racism is still alive and well, if not de jure, then de facto. Just look at the hysteric reaction of so many whites to Obama. Its not rational, its visceral: they can't stand the idea of a black man occupying the highest office in the land.

Posted by: lafayette89 | April 6, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Agreed with above post about Black History Month.

Honestly, how can we learn about our past, and learn to move past the racism, including the ignorant rants in this blog by the many posters, if we don't study the truth.

Posted by: NoVowels | April 6, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes you've got to let your constituency down gently. This would have been one of those times.

Or play it cool and call it Virginia History Month ... everyone can find their place then.

Posted by: tslats | April 6, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

This is alright. As long as he declares May "National Nat Turner Month", then we should be about even.

Posted by: md_gop | April 6, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

wsblount wrote;
"Just exactly which constituency is he playing to, however you look at history, there is no question that the Confederacy stood for treason because they took up arms against the government of The United States. Nice job Virginia, you've really picked a winner with this nut bag!"
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Treason, like porn, is in the eye of the beholder. How a people revere and treat their history is a hallmark of their culture. While the storied earthly remains of leaders like Lee and Jackson repose in honor and quiet dignity in Lexington Va, those of the conqueror rest in a long forgotten, graffiti marked, urine stained mausoleum in the bowels of NYC. Like I said, how a people revere and treat their history is a hallmark of their culture.

Posted by: slim2 | April 6, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Good. We are long overdue for some public recognition of the contributions of people who betrayed and attemped to destroy their own country. People who conspired with foreign powers to maintain the prerogatives of the elite in a feudal economy built on the backs of landless white peasants and African slaves need a glorious Huzzah.
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It only makes me wonder why I hear and read so much about the values of the Republicans and how they want to restore the country to its former glory, and then I watch as they get caught spending tax payer dollars in sex clubs and support these kinds of things (confederacy month). Where exactly are their values?

Posted by: ai3di | April 6, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Would the Governor not have more appropriate if only he had paused to consider for the smallest moment that recognition of the historical significance of the Civil War and how it forever changed America setting forth a series impossibly slow changes that eventually led to a more equal America might have been more legitimate than celebrating the confederacy? WHERE AS, the decision of the southern states forced the hand of the sitting president to drive to action, and it was the acts of the Confederates that ultimately saw the emancipation of the slaves and the death of formal slave culture in the United States, celebrating the Confederacy, no matter Virginia’s role, is something to be loathed. The Confederacy and the Confederate battle flag are symbols of both treason and racism, no matter what anyone wants to claim or attempts to defend. Governor McDonnell has made a cracking good decision to make such a proclamation to celebrate the Confederacy and all that it was. The backhanded statements of past and present context are belied by the choice of theme, words and quotations and could have only been legitimized if he, himself, could have grasp the context of these events positioned as Confederate across the spectrum of history.

Posted by: JLAgent | April 6, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

As all you Maryland and D.C. residents complain here, yet another business leaves your State/District to relocate to Virginia. Keep em coming, Virginia's Canada!

Posted by: HokieDoke | April 6, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see Sheila Johnson's commercial praising Conferate History Month as a "moderate" exercise.

Posted by: hoos3014 | April 6, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I am fully aware of how ignorant many people are about the actual history of the Civil War, War Between the States, War of Northern Agression or whatever you call it. The reason I started dressing up and going out reenacting it was to help educate people, not stir up more controversy. People deliberately forget that the Confederacy had fully integrated units from the very start of the war. The Union did not. The war started over state's rights. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclaimation to prevent the European nations from coming in on the side of the Confederacy. England especially would have sided with the Confederacy since it needed the cotton produced there for its incredibly large textile industry of the era.

Posted by: RazorGirl | April 6, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

From the proclamation: "This defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians ..."

Except the part about slavery. That should be forgotten, I guess. That wasn't part of Virginia's history.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Sweet!
adversity, baby!!
Hillbillies have rights???

Posted by: simonsays1 | April 6, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Since Gov. McDonnell is trying to re-live the past, does this proclamation mean that Virginia will attempt to force a re-unification with West Virginia?

Posted by: redtodd78 | April 6, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

On Confederate and Union History;

General Grant and General Lee were contemporaries, colleagues, advarsaries and yes..... friends.

General Lee, who was Commandant at West Point, was considered the finest Officer in the U.S. Army, at the time of the opening volley of the Civil War.

General Lee was offered the Command of the entire Union Army by President Lincoln, but he regretfully declined because his home state Virginia, had become part of the Confederate States, with Richmond later it's Capitol.

Lee stated he could not fight against Virginians, nor against his home state which he loved.

Instead, Lee accepted a lessor command in the CSA Army, the Army of Northern Virginia. He commanded this vastly smaller force with great skill and earned the respect and admiration of officers and soldiers on both sides of the conflict.

When Lee surrendered to General Grant at Appomattox Court House in Virginia after over 4 years of war, he did do so, in order to begin the healing of our nation.

General Grant accepted Lee's surrender and they parted as they had been prior the war; friends, colleagues and honorable military men.

General Grant stood up for Lee when some sought his confinement after the war.
Lee was among those at the head of the procession, of Grant's funeral in New
York.

Lee supported the government's plans for Reconstruction and became a respected University President at Washington and Lee University.

All Americans deserve to know the full scope of the history of our nation.
It is a rich and facinating history.

I personally applaud the Virginia Governor's decision to use the history of his state to teach some of it.

Posted by: chicago77 | April 6, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

A man of conviction would have stood up tall, in the daylight, and very publically unveiled this -- horrendus -- proclamation.

A craven weasel would try to do this "quietly" as payment for a sell-your-soul-political debt. He would hope to avoid accountability and avoid confronting what was an inevitable condemnation.

That fact the the Governor attempted to do this quietly and under the radar is because he (and no doubt his advisors) knew this would be a extremely bad decision. So he behaved like a weasel and hoped no one would notice.

Once again sunlight proves the best disinfectant. Learn that lesson Governor.

Posted by: Gettysburg1 | April 6, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"We would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle. ..."
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That should read-- 'deplore' instead of 'honor,' 'treason' instead of 'sacrifice' and 'deluded' instead of 'brave.'

Posted by: org2 | April 6, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

General Lee was a slave owner, at the time the war started.

Posted by: twpw | April 6, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

we won. you lost. get over it. Isn't that what you liberals have been saying? The democrats are going to lose a lot more this Fall too. Are you trying to deny the Democrats weren't the Slavemasters?

Posted by: charlietuna666 | April 6, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

We should have only MacX appreciation month. National.

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Why the bitter, hateful, emotional comments? This is our history, proud or not.

Pretty soon there will be calls for burning everything and anything related to that era: "Fahrenheit 451". Scary thought, but I'm afraid that's where we're headed.

Posted by: JAH3 | April 6, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

The confederacy was/is a terrorist organization that has killed more Americans than Al Queda. This is patently offensive on every level. The US should treat memories of the Confederacy (and their symbols) the same way that Germany treats Nazi memories and symbols - outlaw them.

Posted by: captclamdigger | April 6, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Treason, like porn, is in the eye of the beholder. How a people revere and treat their history is a hallmark of their culture. While the storied earthly remains of leaders like Lee and Jackson repose in honor and quiet dignity in Lexington Va, those of the conqueror rest in a long forgotten, graffiti marked, urine stained mausoleum in the bowels of NYC. Like I said, how a people revere and treat their history is a hallmark of their culture.
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Right. Which is why the South is one big trash strewn Wal-Mart parking lot. You guys have essentially crapped on your history, except for some of the more cartoonish aspects of the the Civil War: mostly hero worship towards folks like Lee who swore an oath, but like Benedict Arnold decided his word meant nothing.

Meanwhile, real American heros like Sherman lie peacefully in the bosom of the American heartland in beautiful Cavalry Cemetary in St Louis. He deserves his rest after turning the South into a cinder--a chastizing from which they're still recovering. Heckuva Job!

Posted by: antontuffnell | April 6, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

From the comments here, it's clear that many don't even know the real history of the Civil War.

If one group can declare a history month, why can't anyone else do it?

Whoever is interested can go study the subject.

Posted by: postfan1 | April 6, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

People deliberately forget that the Confederacy had fully integrated units from the very start of the war.
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No kidding? The brave Sons of Virginia marching into battle shoulder-to-shoulder with their slaves? What utter nonsense.

Posted by: sonny2 | April 6, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I think we should have a JFK Day'
and a European Immigrants Month.

Off Shore Drilling Day?

Drone attacks day?

I think all 57 states can remember
important dates or era's.


I heard the government can now take your Social Security Benefits if you owe
the IRS money.

It's sad to see a grown man,
who never had a dad to teach
him to throw a baseball.

I heard Robert Gibbs call Micheal steele
foolish for playing the race card.
can you get any whiter then Gibbs?

Posted by: simonsays1 | April 6, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

It is their state. They can do what they want...

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"And I've always thought that West Virginia was the dumber of the two Virginias."

Of the 365 days available to criticize West Virginia, there are about 364 better options than today.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least it wasn't during Black History month.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | April 6, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Question:
When we built the Holocaust Museum, were we celebrating the Holocaust and what it stood for? Or were we acknowledging our history?

When we celebrate Black History Month, are we celebrating slavery and the Klu Klux Klan? Or are we acknowledging the history of our country and how far we have come?

When we celebrate the Confederates, are we celebrating bigotry? Or are we acknowledging a very real aspect of our heritage and history....no matter how distorted it was. The Civil War was perhaps the most horrendous period of our history, but it is a part of who we are.

I have lived in the South.
I have walked daily past the historical statues of the Confederate leadership. Acknowledging a period of our history, whether you agree with what that history stood for or not, doesn't mean you celebrate it. It means you honor and acknowledge our heritage....all of it.

Posted by: factsmatter1 | April 6, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

while I'm no McDonnell supporter and voted for Warner, Kaine, Deeds and Obama, McDonnell did proclaim February as Black History Month.

So he's at least paying lip service to the race issue.

That said, this is a sad sad state of affairs for VA.

Posted by: rpixley220 | April 6, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Almelbe wrote:
Its about time. We celebrate Black History month, Gay Pride. Whats wrong with celebrating the Confederacy month? I sort of like it and I'm from PA.
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- Black History month = Remembering and celebrating the accomplishments of many Black forefathers/mothers.

- Gay Pride = Celebrating the accomplishments/progress, and showing pride for the gay community.

- Confederacy Month = Huh???!

Posted by: BasicInstinct | April 6, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

My great-grandfather fought on the side of the South, but I do not want to celebrate a war fought by him to preserve slavery. After a century, this is nothing more than playing to the right-wing racists in Virginia.

Posted by: okiedeadhead | April 6, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Between our gov and kooky Coochi, this state has take giant strides backwards. This is embarrassing.

Posted by: GenuineRisk | April 6, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Jobs Govenor, yeah right. This guy is getting exposed everyday and he would have been able to fool most N.Va people if he did not have the noose of Cucci around his neck!

Posted by: bam1969 | April 6, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

we won. you lost. get over it. Isn't that what you liberals have been saying? The democrats are going to lose a lot more this Fall too. Are you trying to deny the Democrats weren't the Slavemasters?
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Back then you Republican
were
the Southern Democrats..

But since you are a Republicans
(Not a Democracy ..even though you vote)

BUT then again DENIAL is your trade..

Fei Hu

Posted by: Fei_Hu | April 6, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: randomeverydaythoughts | April 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Since one of the reasons for the secession and creation of the Confederate STates of America, this roots-in-Jackson-County-Alabama person finds it interesting that anyone would have a Confederate month. Would we be so accepting of a Nazi month? How about Khymer Rouge month? Those were all political regimes who believed enslaving fellow human beings was acceptable and promotable.

Does the Republican Party support this act or are they willing to denounce it?

Does this have anything to do with having an African American president?

Are Virginians really proud of this action?

My god, what have we come to.

Posted by: littleoldlady | April 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Pretty soon there will be calls for burning everything and anything related to that era: "Fahrenheit 451". Scary thought, but I'm afraid that's where we're headed.
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No actually, the anger is in the historical revisionism that the south's been engaged in since just after the war. You don't get to betray your country, commit terror acts resulting in the deaths of a hundred thousand, then play dress up for the next two hundred years, talking about "honor".

The idea of "Southern honor" is a joke. Ever since some Southern dirtbag was too cowardly to actually face Sumner like a man, and jumped him on the floor of the Senate, that's been the southern way.

Posted by: antontuffnell | April 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"Well, at least it wasn't during Black History month."

Ha. Give 'em time.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The Confederate States of America was formed by a segment of the population who seceded from the United States of America and formed a new country with their own elected president, army and flag. Ladies and Gentlemen, this betrayal is called treason against the United States! Why is this governor of an American state advocating the celebration of Confederate History Month? This is treason against the United States of America!

Posted by: apacheye | April 6, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute, let me get this straight, they want to celebrate a time when a portion of this nation wanted to succeed from the United States because they didn't likt who was elected president, declared war against the United States, and fired the first shot at Firt Sumter. Sounds more like treason than anything else. If this were to happen today they be labeled terrorists, except may by Fox News

Posted by: mkoch1 | April 6, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Virginia still trying to be Mississippi. Well, one can only hope that Virginians are pleased with their elected officials.

Posted by: 12345leavemealone | April 6, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

WHEREAS, most citizens of Virginia are, owing in part to the previous norms of our peculiar society, of European descent

WHEREAS, Christianity and its immediate precursor religion are not or European origin

HENCEFORTH, in the Commonwealth of Virginia, December 25 shall be celebrated as Solstice Day in commemoration of the true European gods and to prevent a dragon from devouring the life-giving Sun.

Posted by: tcement | April 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

It's a tourism thing.

The sesquicentennial of the Civil War runs from 2011 to 2015. Virginia has more Civil War tourism opportunities than any other state. The economy should be doing better, but the weak dollar will still make Europe inaccessible.

Virginians of all ethnicities should be identifying ways to capitalize on the opportunity.

Posted by: blasmaic | April 6, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I think this is perfectly fine. I mean, what else does the South stand for if not bigotry and treason?

Posted by: blarsen1 | April 6, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

@factsmatter1:
"When we built the Holocaust Museum, were we celebrating the Holocaust and what it stood for? Or were we acknowledging our history?"
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Well we sure weren't celebrating the Nazi regime now were we? That's basically what this amounts too.

Posted by: rpixley220 | April 6, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

God Bless Virginia!!!

The rest of you liberals can go live in Maryland. Home of the Homosexuals.

Posted by: AlbyVA | April 6, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"We would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle."

They were insurrectionist and traitors. They committed treason against the United States of America. They incited violence against the American people. As too many neo-confederates still do today.

I give them my straightest and highest two fisted one finger salute.

Posted by: aahpat | April 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

What? No Whermacht history month?

Posted by: orange3 | April 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

LOL OH, man... the Republicans, I mean, Fascists, just keep giving and giving and giving and giving. By signing this proclamation, McDee has signed away any chance of ever running for national office. Thank you, dim wit. Now, bring together McDee's confederates with Palin's secessionist husband and good ole boys, and let's see what we have. *BOING* OHHHH, it's the Tea Partyers. this is delicious stupidity served up with sexcapades by the RNC. Is it possible at all that it could get better than this? HEEEEEE HAW!

Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | April 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Some brilliant person wrote:

"Just got back from Philly and NYC. Blacks in Philly have invented something called Flash mobs where 500 Blacks get together and terrorize everyone on sat night in a shopping district. 55 Blacks were arrested in Times Square last week for doing the same thing. Blacks what do you have to say about this?"

TRYING to figure out what in the world does this have to do with Virginia OR The Confederacy is hilarious...LOL - the effects of Glen Beck are indeed taking hold in our society.....hold your kids tight tonight, folks. It's getting weird

Posted by: wallacea | April 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Virginia is for lovers! (As long as you are both of the same race)

Posted by: wbruzzowashpost | April 6, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Have never supported the CSA “culture” as I feel their actions were treasonous and at best misguided. However, if I knew it would irritate this many people I would declare CSA history month too.

I'm a jerk® that way.

Posted by: JulioAugustine | April 6, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

It's clear from the ad hominem arguments (and there are some doozies) against McDonnell and the Virginians who voted for him that most of you have not actually taken the time to read the press release.

WHEREAS, all Virginians can appreciate the fact that when ultimately overwhelmed by the insurmountable numbers and resources of the Union Army, the surviving, imprisoned and injured Confederate soldiers gave their word and allegiance to the United States of America, and returned to their homes and families to rebuild their communities in peace, following the instruction of General Robert E. Lee of Virginia, who wrote that, “...all should unite in honest efforts to obliterate the effects of war and to restore the blessings of peace."; and

WHEREAS, this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live, and this study and remembrance takes on particular importance as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War, a four-year period in which the exploration of our history can benefit all;

Posted by: lingering_lead | April 6, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

We're supposed to celebrate diversity. We're supposed to respect other people's viewpoints and try to understand them and reach common ground. We're supposed to tolerate those who are different from us, because we're all the same deep down.

So celebrate, respect, and tolerate Confederate History Month, you hypocritical PC Fascists!

Posted by: pmendez | April 6, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"We would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle."

"We would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and --- murdered Americans--- in battle."

Posted by: aahpat | April 6, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse


" ... perhaps it could have been a month of remembering that time in history which included the cofederacy, but also included slavery, and the most devastating war in our nation's history. Call attention to it, with a call for remembrance, and reconciliation ..."

Best idea yet.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

As long as we never have a Homosexual Month, I don't care what history is being recognized in April.

Posted by: AlbyVA | April 6, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

What? No Whermacht history month?

Posted by: orange3 | April 6, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

This will make the tea baggers and secessionists happy, but what they really want is a holiday that gives them and excuse to wear their sheets and hoods in public - not the Confederate uniforms they use for the Civil War enactment stuff.

Posted by: Andrea_KC | April 6, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Robert E. Lee swore an oath on his Bible to the United States of America and the US Army and then became a traitor against his country and his comrades in arms. What else do you need to know about the Confederacy? Read "CSA" president Jefferson Davis' inaugural address.

Posted by: digtlartst | April 6, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Southern Honor -- dress up in bedsheets and grab people in the middle of the night and murder and mutilate them. Southern honor -- own other human beings so you don';t have to pay for labor. Southern honor -- rape those people you own for fun. Southern honor - lose and election so start a war in which you try to overthrow the government and kill 600,000 Americans. All part of that confederate heritage they are celebtatin'

Posted by: John1263 | April 6, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

In light of this, one can only imagine what things would be like if the South had won.

Posted by: abelito | April 6, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

It is unfortunate for Virginia that the inbred McDonnell is reliving the Civil War and passing social policy by Taliban-clones.

Posted by: revbookburn | April 6, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse


The white supremacists are celebrating their heritage...

Posted by: demtse | April 6, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

It's high time states rights became an issue...

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

if we can black history month, we can certainly have Confederate history month.

Posted by: dwdva1 | April 6, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"The rest of you liberals can go live in Maryland. Home of the Homosexuals."

Is that right? Maryland"s that bad, uh? All the 'freaks' are in MD?
hmmmmmm...............

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/fairfax/former-fairfax-minister-arrest.html

hehe

Posted by: wallacea | April 6, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

apdseal.... once again, if England portrays us as "rebels" then why not portray the Confederacy in the same light? The situation appears to be simular, why not just be truthful about it? Yes the American Revolution was treason against England and the King. It is not portrayed as such here because WE WON. The Confederacy lost and should be held accountable as what they were and will always be, traitors to the Constitution of the United States and we all know what the penalty for that is. History is written by the victors.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 6, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

in Virginia you are no longer specifically protected against discrimination…

It shall be the policy of the office of the Governor to ensure equal opportunity in the workplace, encourage excellence by rewarding achievement based on merit, and prohibit discrimination for any reason. Hiring, promotion, discipline and termination of employees shall be based on qualifications, performance and results.
McDonnell has brought back the means to discrimation…

McDonnell (R) on Feb. 5 signed an executive order that prohibits discrimination "on the basis of race, sex, color, national origin, religion, age, political affiliation, or against otherwise qualified persons with disabilities," as well as veterans.

It rescinds the order that Gov. Tim Kaine signed Jan. 14, 2006 as one of his first actions. After promising a "fair and inclusive" administration in his inaugural address, Kaine (D) added veterans to the non-discrimination policy - and sexual orientation.

McDonnell's office sent along this memo from his chief of staff that they have suggested to reporters prevents any and all discrimination. It reads, in part:

It shall be the policy of the office of the Governor to ensure equal opportunity in the workplace, encourage excellence by rewarding achievement based on merit, and prohibit discrimination for any reason. Hiring, promotion, discipline and termination of employees shall be based on qualifications, performance and results.

It is seen as a "sad" development that strips state workers of protections that they had under the last administration.

Posted by: lindarc | April 6, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

If he's so against government, he should just resign and make us all happy.

Posted by: MAL9000 | April 6, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

On Confederate and Union History;

General Grant and General Lee were contemporaries, colleagues, advarsaries and yes..... friends.....................................................................................................

Posted by: chicago77
=============================
Thank you for the History Lesson..

But it is not your Govenors intent.
or
he would have chosen a different tact.

Not to glorify the Confederacy.
What you wrote was factual.
Which is Not the governors INTENT

Fei Hu

Posted by: Fei_Hu | April 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

In light of this, one can only imagine what things would be like if the South had actually won, although, not much is left to the imagination whenever Repubs are in power.

Posted by: abelito | April 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

We should have cry for liberal sensitivities month...

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

The Civil War, the Civil War History month and Southern Culture in general is what you get when you allow cousins to marry.

Posted by: Andrea_KC | April 6, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama will not win Virginia in 2012. And all of Virginia's Democrat Congress members better be worried about being placed into the unemployment line.

Posted by: AlbyVA | April 6, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

" ... didn’t declare that white sheets should be sold tax free, in honor of this great month!"

This wouldn't be too far off-base. The Klan is also a party of Confederate history. Former Confederate soldiers started the KKK, and its first grand wizard was Nathan Bedford Forrest, a former Confederate general.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

All of my ancestors were Confederates, so I have no problem with commemorating their sacrifice. They were ultimatel wrong, but they were human, and therefore fallible. But when are we going to lay that conflict to rest? When are we going to stop romanticizing what ultimately amounted to treason? We have a black President now after all. Come on Governor. Let's focus on the future and put the past to rest.

Posted by: JMATT5 | April 6, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

my kids' white history teacher did not know anything about the U.S. Civil War since it was not PC at his college history class. The black history teacher next knew more about the civil war and he taught well, including slavery and the union and the confederacy. Better to be color blind than colored or black or white.

Posted by: Rockvillers | April 6, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Seriously folks, who cares?

Besides Libs getting their panties in a twist -- it affects nothing. absolutely nothing. It's a proclamation.

Posted by: loux24 | April 6, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The history of those who fought to preserve slavery in Virginia
"A Rich Man's War and a Poor Man's Fight"
-The rich man's war because of the law called the "20 negro law." This said that anyone that had 20 slaves or more did not have to fight in the war, which left all of the men who didn't have that many or no slaves to fight. They were not as wealthy as the slave owners who had 20 + slaves and were mad they were left to fight a war about slavery when they might not even be the ones who had them.
- Some Virginia Confederate History

Posted by: twpw | April 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse


The PBS Series,
The Civil War - A film by Ken Burns,
is one of the most interesting and well produced documentaries ever.
It gives the viewer context and perspective from all sides and appreciation of the people and the time in which great events were unfolding in our nation.

If one can leave all bias aside for just a few hours, this film will enrich you.

Posted by: chicago77 | April 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

"Dorsey said the governor's stamp of approval would help the group publicize the month and aide [sic] tourism efforts in the state."

What a moron. I can just imagine the number of organizations that will now refuse to hold their meetings, conferences, and conventions in Virginia, the new Heart of the Confederacy. Let this be a lesson to all those idiots who elected General, I mean Governor, McDonnell to help solve Virginia's economic problems.

Posted by: lydgate | April 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

If you believe the Federal Government was intended as a creation of the states and not the reverse, and the Constitution at the time of the Civil War was silent on a state's right to remove itself from a voluntary union, then the use of the word "treason" is quite a stretch. At its heart, the Civil War was more about the South's fight to defend the written Constitution vs the North's determination to enforce the Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: slim2 | April 6, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Civil War abrew'n.

Sometimes violence is the only thing pure hate understands.

Posted by: BrownTown5000 | April 6, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

If, as SCV representative Brandon Dorsey blithely claims, Gov. McDonnell's proclamation was intended in part to generate interest in the Civil War Sesquicentennial and boost tourism, then why didn't the governor make any attempt to publicize his issuing of it? Why the stealth signing of it? Why the idiotic wording that seems to celebrate rather than vilify the treasonous Confederacy?

This proclamation was a sop to a core part of McDonnell's ultra-right constituency that romanticizes and idealizes Virginia's secessionist, slaveholder past, pure and simple. It's repulsive and a disgraceful misuse of the governor's office. But given McDonnell's past record, it should have surprised no one.

Posted by: whatmeregister | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

We should only celebrate politically correct holidays...like Che Guevara birthday...that seems to be popular...

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

So when is KKK week?

Posted by: Honest_Abe | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, "lingering_lead". A reasoned voice among some pretty mean spirited ones. I'm totally bewildered by the tone of many; at the hate and bitterness. For some, there is no room for opinions -- one way or the other, and no room for history. Sad.

Posted by: JAH3 | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Next thing you know we'll have a declare war on gays month to give patriotic, god-fearing Virginians a chance to use their concealed weapons and home arsenals on enemies of the state

Posted by: mkieffer | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Looking back from the Nixon years to today would it not have been wonderful for the rest of us if the rebels had won the civil war? They could all live in their hate and ignorance while the rest of us enjoyed the sunshine of life without these bed bugs crawling across the Mason Dixon line.

Posted by: leahcima1 | April 6, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

So is he going to take this to the black communities in Virgina to enlist their support?

Posted by: realspear1 | April 6, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

To all unreconstructed traitors--
YOU LOST--GET OVER IT!
You can keep defiling our Stars and Stripes,but get off the phony nostalgia for a savage system based on cruelty and creepy values.

Posted by: kaswelld | April 6, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Yeeeeehawwwww! (spits tobacco on floor)

Yes-sah. We sho is modern now 'n such.

Posted by: topwriter | April 6, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I hope you Democrats in Virginia who did not show up to vote realize now what a huge mistake that was.

Posted by: Honest_Abe | April 6, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Speaking as a Virginian, I wish the day will come when all of the issues that came up as a result of the Civil War have been resolved. I'd like to see a little bit more "history" behind a Confederate History Month, instead of latter-day Confederates still hanging-on to old thoughts and prejudices.

Posted by: stillaliberal | April 6, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is it such a problem to learn about and have an understanding of our history ?

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Does Germany have Nazi history month? What was Virginia thinking? Forget what the Confederacy stood for, I don't understand why there should be a month devoted to honoring the losing side in a war. I agree that Confederate history should be discussed, but in the context of the Civil War as part of the losing side.

Posted by: NickJ77 | April 6, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Given the centrality of Virginia in the Civil War, some kind of Civil War History Month makes some sense -- especially given the many historical sites in the state.

Confederate History Month though is another story. My sense is that McDonnell is simply too spineless to say "no" to a nakedly racist part of his party base.

I'd at least give him some credit if the proclamation acknowledged the "senseless loss of human life in the service of protecting the financial interests of a few wealthy plantation owners."

The only good that is likely to come out of this, is that these kind wacky gestures are likely to knee-cap McDonnell's national political aspirations.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

To all traitors and unreconstructed low-lifes--
YOU LOST GET OVER IT!

Posted by: kaswelld | April 6, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Bob McDonnell Makes It Official: Terrorists Appreciation Day in Virginia, April 6, 2010

Posted by: george_w_bush0 | April 6, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

To all traitors and unreconstructed low-lifes--
YOU LOST GET OVER IT!

Posted by: kaswelld | April 6, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

If we could somehow harness the power of all liberal handwringing...it would solve our Nations energy demands for the next 100 years !

Posted by: billbrann | April 6, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

" ... then when he tries to run for VPOTUS he won't have any rational record to run on."


You just made my day. This and a couple of other dings will knock him out of the presidential sweepstakes. There is no sympathy for the Lost Cause anywhere outside the South. They'll see this as straight racism.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

So many white grow irritated when blacks or white liberals bring up the fact that racial discrimination and racism still exists. They growl, "Move on, it's over. Everyone's now equal." Well, why doesn't the good ol' redneck governor of VA just move on. The Civil War is over. The Confederacy lost. Now we know what these tea-party politician mean when they say they want their country back. Back before the Civil War when whites could enslave blacks, oppress women, bambozzle lower class whites, and languish in their blessed ignorance.

Posted by: DWSouthern | April 6, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

The War Between the States was a horrid and unnecessary war. There were many noble Confederate soldiers who believed they were fighting the Second American Revolution, giving all for the Lost Cause. Only 6% of the Confederate soldiers were slave holders. What do you suppose the other 94% were fighting about? - FREEDOM from Washington D.C. There was much more to the war than what is taught in the government school textbooks.

Posted by: IdahoSpud1 | April 6, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Next thing you know we'll have a declare war on gays month to give patriotic, god-fearing Virginians a chance to use their concealed weapons and home arsenals on enemies of the state

Posted by: mkieffer | April 6, 2010 5:43 PM |
********************************
No, it's too early. Let's take things one step at a time. We will have to wait until January 2013, after the Second American Revolution is complete, for your war on gays thing.

See y'all on the Mall April 15!

See y'all in the voting booth November!

Posted by: pmendez | April 6, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Considering the present governor and attorney general in the Old Dominion there should be a call to revise the State Motto to Thus Always by Tyrants. It's too bad he didn't issue the proclamation at Appotmattox Court House.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | April 6, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: red2million | April 6, 2010 1:53 PM: …………., this is obviously what VA wanted. I'm sure the hillbillies the VA voters elected are working on a plan to rid the state of blacks and minorities.

Not the minorities. McDonnell and Cuccinelli are in lock step with Kaine (and the Federal Government) when it comes to looking the other way about “minorities.” This keeps the businesses very happy, and they in turn keep McDonnell and Cuccinelli very happy with their most generous campaign contributions.

During McDonnell’s campaign, his camp publicly stated they would not mandate E-verify statewide because it would be too difficult and costly for small businesses.

Yeah right – the program is FREE and can be downloaded to any computer.

Apparently, all the businesses McDonnell met on the campaign trail don’t use computer (wink wink/nod nod)

Posted by: asmith1 | April 6, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"... blown away by the brazen use of the term 'war between the states.' Anyone who has lived in the South knows this to be a coded approval of the rebellion's aims ..."

This lifetime North Carolinian can confirm this. That's exactly what it is -- code.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Yet another reason I will never live in Virginia.

Posted by: lastort1 | April 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse


All the States that are suing to challenge Obama's Health Care legislation plus the Tea Party activists + the IRS plane guy, the Pentagon shooter, the Holocaust museum shooter + the groups sending letters threatening democratic state governors and legislators = the new rebellion. This looks like a loosely organized attempt to overthrow the government.

Posted by: MysticMan | April 6, 2010 3:38 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This thought is worth a second look. These are dark waters in which we swim.

Posted by: BrownTown5000 | April 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I suppose if McDonnell wishes to honor a defeated Army and nation that was engaged in treason then so be it.

At the same time though McDonnell needs to honor the thousands of Union Troops murdered by Confederates.

This McDonnell character sounds a bit loonie.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) has quietly declared April 2010 Confederate History Month,..."

Don't forget everyone...October is "We Miss Slavery month" in Virginia.

Posted by: larmoecurl | April 6, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

fyi to the guy who posted about the tea partiers' flags (the ones with snakes on them) being from the civil war - get educated.

They are from the revolutionary war. They have nothing to do with the confederacy. One is the first naval jack, the other is from the culpeper minutemen. Don't Tread On Me is about as patriotic as it gets.

Posted by: sament | April 6, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

How do these GOP creeps keep getting elected in VA? I live in Warrenton and vote Dem along with a lot of other folks in Northern VA.

All I can say are you kidding me? This Governor makes me sick with all the other GOP.

Posted by: PittChix | April 6, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse


I hope other Governors will embrace their own state histories. We shoud teach and expand the education about the great events and people in our in history that shaped America.

While we from the North, we have made it a point to visit the National Battlefields in the South whenever we are there.

I can highly recommend the Vicksburg National Military Park, which is part of our National Park Service to those who desire an understanding of the central conflict in the history of our country.

Posted by: chicago77 | April 6, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Secessionist treason. Next thing you know he'll cast himself as the protector of White Christian Women from the ... "you know who" ..in the White House!!

How embarrassing for Virginia. Thomas Jefferson would be horrified.

Posted by: thebobbob | April 6, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Only the leftist hypocrites could possibly call this offensive or better yet, racist.

It's simply an acknowledgement of our past history and what we are today.

If you want offensive, then let's discuss the Congressional Black Caucus, Black Entertainment Television, and the Affirmative Action Program that provides preferential treatment to unqualified minorities over those who've earned their way.

Or is that discussion "too offensive"?

Posted by: RobParker | April 6, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Ha!

So it seems that "20 year old thesis" is...alive and well!

So glad I ain't no Virginian. And my heart goes out to the families of the miners whom lost their lives

God Bless

Posted by: dove369 | April 6, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Good job, Republicans. You just keep showing your true, racist colors, don't you. And you can make all the "it was an economic war" noise you want, but it's simply not true. After all it was the Vice President of the Confederacy who said, the Confederacy's "foundations are laid, its corner–stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition."

In other words, McDonnell is honoring the idea that 20 percent of his state's population is inferior. The Southern Strategy lives.

Posted by: nitpicker | April 6, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

The Texas governor has spoken of secession from the Union in the past year. Suppose Texas peacefully votes to leave the Union in 2011. How should President Obama respond? Should he send in troops and start killing Texans? The same way Lincoln did with Virginia in 1861?

Posted by: IdahoSpud1 | April 6, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Next month he could declare as Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Party Month followed by Let’s All Honor Cambodia’s Pol Pot’s Killing Fields Month. Then perhaps he could try a couple of Joseph Stalin, My Hero Months to round out the summer. For the rest of the year he could declare a month of Jeffery Dahmer Was Just Understood Month and a couple of John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo Were Pretty Good Shots Months.

Posted by: mtrobt | April 6, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Good for Mr McDonnell not kowtowing to the lunacy known as PC.

Good to see all the tolerant ones spouting off about hillbillies. Nothing like a stereotype from the hypocrites be us crowd.

Posted by: Ernest56 | April 6, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

irish031 wrote:

Oh, I love the oh so open mindedness and tolerance of the left. It's pretty ironic the left loves to preach to everyone else about using acceptable words, and being open minded, and how diversity is such a great thing. Except for when they do not agree with the issue.

However, now the shoe is on the other foot, we see the true left come out.

For all those insulting the Governor and calling Virginia a backwood State, please leave. We do not need people who are closed minded and bigoted living in our great Commonwealth.


Bob McDonnell did the right thing. He said he was going to be the Governor of everyone, not just for whom the left feels is right to remember.


Posted by: irish031 | April 6, 2010 4:14 PM

Way to twist words around irish! If Bob is for everyone, why isn't it Civil War History month rather that Confederate History month? That deliberately excludes and divides and offends many. It is neither open-minded nor diverse. I live in VA and I do feel like we are fast going way, way backwards. Nice GOP talking points touch to point fingers at people like me and say we are close minded and bigoted, when it is the complete opposite. Look at the four fingers pointing back at yourself.

Posted by: Kellygirl | April 6, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Virginia's new state motto:

"Virginia is for haters"

Seriously, it's 2010, guys!

Posted by: uscaero | April 6, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

By which I presume you are referring to all the commenters here who are hating on Governor McDonnell. 'Cuz Gov. McDonnell isn't hating on anyone.

Posted by: entonces_99 | April 6, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Why has Virginia decided to go backwards? Is there a reason for celebrating the enslavement of people and the bloodiest war the US has every fought? What is there to be proud of in having owned other people and having treated them like chattel? The Governor of Virginia is a bigot and is proud to support other bigots.

Posted by: merrylees | April 6, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Happy Confederate History Month to Sheila Johnson and Douglas Wilder. No, don't thank me, you deserve it!

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | April 6, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

any comment about which party has the right record on slavery is beside the point. the point of this resolution was to wave the confederate flag to pander to folks who like to see it waved. plain and simple.

of course we need to study the civil war. we don't need to name a month for the confederacy. and tourism is a transparent cover.

even the resolution is pretty iffy. it suggests that the soldiers did swear allegiance to the union in the end, but only after it was clear they had no choice in the face of overwhelming force. can't have that one both ways, gov. either take pride in their oath of allegiance, or defend their caving in. can't do both.

Posted by: JoeT1 | April 6, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I read the proclamation - and think there is some explaining to do on the Governor's part. I'm fine with honoring the many Confederate soldiers who died as well as this chapter in our Commonwealth's heritage. It is what it is in the past and its up to us today to move forward "with malice toward none" as President Lincoln said. Collectively, the South made a big mistake -- but there were many heros and ordinary Americans amoung the Confederate army and in the Virginia at that time.

Unfortunately, the in his proclamation, the Governor failed to state anything about others impacted by the war -- including union soldiers and the freed slaves -- and the ugly institution of slavery. He should have called it "Civil War Heritage Month". I can understand that some have taken offense to this. I do to - being that I've had ancestors who fought on both sides. The governor needs to be careful to include the memory of everything that occurred. His proclamation seems a bit one-sided -- especially in light of the fact that our state has changed greatly over 150 years. We're not all of confederate ancestry any more.

But to suggest that we sponge the Confederacy out of American memory or make Confederate flags illegal is -- as some commenters suggest -- is equally offensive to me. I also take exception to equating the South to the terrorists on 9/11 or the Nazis. The antebellum south had an extremely flawed social system -- but I'd argue that it is totally different from the Nazis, terrorists, et. al. The vitriol that is used against "red necks",
"hill billies", "tea partiers", etc. reads very ugly to me.

We have free speech in this country and are also free to celebrate our heritage. It is a bitter and painful heritage, but we are free to remember it.

Posted by: chrojo01 | April 6, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

This is yet another revelation of how racist, religionist, and hypocritical Governor McJesus is.

Like the Tea Partyers and other Republicans who detest their president because of his skin color, Bob McRobertson is determined to drag Virgina "culture" back to the 1950s, when lynching in the Old Dominion was still a spectator sport.

Posted by: kinkysr | April 6, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

That should learn ALL of you VA. residents who skipped the gubernatorial elections. Less than 7% of eligible voters - voted.

McDonnell did not win as much as folks just lied down and didn't bother to voice their fight.

VOTE!

Posted by: love80sdance | April 6, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

hahaha Hope you Virginians are happy. McDonnell and Cuccinelli are slowly transforming Virginia back to tobacco-growing, Confederate flag waving, slave-owning Old Virginny. They're undoing the few meager steps forward that Virginia took under Kaine, with huge leaps backward.

Never has the North/South liberal/conservative difference between DC/MD and Virginia been so glaring. So glad I live on the Northern side of the Potomac.

My suggestion to those of you in NoVa (Arlignton, Alexandria, and Fairfax; not PWC): Secede from the South just like West Virginia did and form the state of Northern Virginia, or just re-annex Arlington and Alex. to DC.

Posted by: one4all | April 6, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

To RobParker: The fact that there ARE people want to honor people who were happy with the enslavement of other people is reason enough for the Congressional Black Caucus, BET, etc. However, BET is no longer Black owned, hence the horrible programming now. Members of the CBC are represent more than their Black constituents. And Affirmative Action stopped truly benefitting Black people in about 1982. Other minorities and White women have gained a bit more because other minorities and White women have had more of the specific qualifications for those AA needs (think AA set asides for a minority environmental engineering firm, for instance...how many of those do you think Black people have?). You are just being petty, like these Virginians.

Posted by: soulflower2 | April 6, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to McDonnell, Virginia is now South Carolina.

Posted by: artbee2000 | April 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Imagine the psychological damage to a child when you have to teach her/him that perfectly normal-looking people in expensive suits and positions of power can be totally evil and proud of it. The usual question you get from kids is: "why?". I have not been able to come up with a good explanation as to why some people use our money and their positions to spread hate and incite violence against innocent people.

Posted by: jewishmother | April 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Appalling. Embarrassing to our state on so many levels.

Posted by: Rivery | April 6, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

As I read it, this proclamation is more designed to get people to study the issue rather than simply being a tribute," he said. "We would like everyone in the state to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle. At the very least, we'd like them to study why they went out and did it. And I think the proclamation could be construed either way." by Gov. McDonnell

The fight was to keep slavery alive. The men "honored" were slavemasters or slavemaster wanna be. He wants to dedicate a month for this cause. This is the south. Oh, I am not surprise. It is a shame. Why don't he fly the Confederate flag on the state capitol again for ol' times? This fool is a joke!

Posted by: eveban | April 6, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I am a native Virginian, and I love my home state. However, I refuse to be clumped together with the bigots and b@stards who are, with all their power and at super-sonic speed, trying to push Virginia back into the Dark Ages.

McDonnell and Cuchinelli do NOT speak for me.

Posted by: EdgewoodVA | April 6, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

This press release was supposed to come out on the 1st, right?? Right?

Posted by: sarahabc | April 6, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

You can't deny history and you can only learn from it if you study it. Those who are decrying this decision obviously have not read the governor's proclamation.

Posted by: judithod | April 6, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Heritage not Hate. I congratulate Gov. McDonnell for refusing to cover-up history and encouraging people to research history.

Posted by: hz9604 | April 6, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

@ thebobbob Actually, Thomas Jefferson's relatives fought for the South, as did many decendents of the founding fathers. It wasn't about slavery or racism for most. Confederate history month is a proclamation for an honest look at history. Why did over 300,000 men die for the Confederacy?

Posted by: IdahoSpud1 | April 6, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

What's next? Bring your daughter to a Lynching Day? Revisionist History of the Glorious South and the Damn Yankees who Destroyed It Year? Wow ... so glad I am no longer a Virginia resident. It was bad enough driving through downtown Alexandria every day to and from work as I wound around the statue to the confederate dead. Secessionist traitors wrapping inhumane bigotry under the stars and bars. May they rot in hell.

Posted by: Omyobama | April 6, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I suppose if McDonnell wants to celebrate the defeat of the Confederacy then OK.

Instead of playing games McDonnell would do well to educate his electorate that the defeat of the Confederacy in 1865 meant that the US Government dictates prevail as the law of the land. Including Health Care Reform.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 6, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Funny how very few Virginians have an issue with this. It's only the whining of the liberal losers who live in the broken down messes in Maryland and DC. Little do they realize that the economic disasters they live it can NEVER compare to the best state economy in the country.

Virginia continue to attract new companies by the hundreds each year. Wonder why they don't choose to live where liberals rule?

If you don't like Virginia, then stay on your side of the river, losers....

Posted by: RobParker | April 6, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

What exactly is it that needs studying for a month a year that can't be covered in high school history class? You don't dedicate a month for study, you do it to celebrate and that is retrograde, at best.

Posted by: goexplode | April 6, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I just read through quite a few of you "open mouth breathers" comments. He's not gearing up for a KKK comeback and he's not celebrating slavery. He's simply granting the wish of the families of deceased soldiers. You are the same people who defend the families of terrorists, why can't you defend our own? Get some Vagisil for your aches and get over it!

Posted by: uh60cw2 | April 6, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I bet next is Ku Klux Klan Appreciation Month

Posted by: rcc_2000 | April 6, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I bet next is Ku Klux Klan Appreciation Month

Posted by: rcc_2000 | April 6, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

It is absolutely disheartening (yet, sadly, not at all surprising) how little the majority of Americans know about American history. Obviously, the government schools have done their jobs well.

Racism? The fact is, the North profited from slavery. The US government profited from slavery. Yet, only the South is held accountable.

White supremacy? Such as, perhaps, when Abraham Lincoln, during the Lincoln-Douglas Debates, made clear his opinion of the natural supremacy belonging to the white man?

Emancipation. Lincoln's "last card." A mere political tool that emancipated no slaves.

Colonization. Favored by Lincoln, and prominent Northern abolitionists (who sought not so much the abolition of slavery, ie, freedom for blacks, but abolition of the institution and the deportation and colonization of blacks.

KKK? One can only wonder how the North would have responded had an economy based heavily upon slave labor (as opposed to slave importation), sought secession, been conquered, and then made subject to "reconstruction": to be disenfranchised, and have radicals and blacks in positions of power. Such subjugation might assuredly have spawned such "hateful ignorant Yankee" groups in resistance.

Treason? I take it the Founding Fathers were not "patriots" at all, but traitors for seceding from England? News Flash for the historically-challenged: The Declaration of Independence was the original SECESSIONIST document. The US was founded upon the idea of secession. The "civil war" did not "prove" secession illegal, as your indoctrinators (oh, pardon me, "educators") have taught you. It merely meant the US forces were bigger and stronger. The bully is always "right," correct?

Treason, again? One party was literally, legally responsible for treason: Abraham Lincoln, who despite his "Any people, anywhere" posturings in 1854, illegally and unconstitutionally waged war upon the South.

The Commonwealth of Virginia legally seceded from a Union, a feeral government she had a part in creating. When invaded, she called upon her citizens. It is fitting and proper, despite the collective ignorance of the indoctrinated politically correct, to honor those who responded to the call to arms in defense of their once-sovereign state.

Graymalkin

Posted by: graymalkin | April 6, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

As long as the complete history is told I have no problem with it. Virginia is doing a fine job in having conferences at the states universities each year of the susquetinneal in exploring the issues of the Civil War. By and large those who actually really care about the state's history are not bigots and certainly understand the complex issues that have swirled through Virginia's past. If people come to visit the many Civil War sites and learn a few other things as well then it is good.

Posted by: driley | April 6, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

why not make april 20th a virginia state holiday
hitler's birthday

of course i'd be equating slavery and secession with hitler
and that's unpatriotic

what do i know one holiday's the same as the other

Posted by: jato11 | April 6, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

50% or so of Virginia say that there had better be a Suffragette Float in the Parade.

What the heck was The Gov thinking ?

Posted by: gannon_dick | April 6, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm not going to apologize that a few of my ancestors fought on the side of the Confederacy. This is part of my heritage and I'm glad that the state is bringing all the rich history (regardless of your opinion about it) to light. We can certainly use the tourism dollars.

Posted by: MyOhMy | April 6, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Treason, like porn, is in the eye of the beholder. How a people revere and treat their history is a hallmark of their culture. While the storied earthly remains of leaders like Lee and Jackson repose in honor and quiet dignity in Lexington Va, those of the conqueror rest in a long forgotten, graffiti marked, urine stained mausoleum in the bowels of NYC. Like I said, how a people revere and treat their history is a hallmark of their culture.

Posted by: slim2 | April 6, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse


LOL...yo Slim. He's still the conqueror, isn't he.

Posted by: Attucks | April 6, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

When do the new Jim Crow laws go into effect?

Posted by: ceefer66 | April 6, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I lived in south central Pennsylvania for three years, and saw more Confederate flags flying in that region than there are in south central Virginia. The Camp Curtin Historical Society, based in Harrisburg, erected a statue to Confederate General Albert G. Jenkins in Mechanicsburg, PA. The National Civil War Museum, which regularly displays artifacts on loan from the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond, is also located in Harrisburg. Souvenirs depicting symbols of the Confederacy are sold in shops in and around Gettysburg Battlefield. Should those stores be closed for selling “traitorous” keepsakes?

Sixty percent of the campaigns of the Civil War were fought in Virginia. The capital of the Confederacy was located in Richmond. Those are the facts, try as some may to whitewash or rewrite history. Anyone having a problem with that history should’ve thought about that before deciding to move here.

BTW, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center “Hate Map”, Pennsylvania has twenty-eight active hate groups (including the KKK) located there. Virginia has twenty-two, two of which are located in the northern region of the state.

Posted by: NativeNorthernVirginian | April 6, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Q - Why did so many soldiers die for the Confederacy?

A - They were told a big lie by Jeff Davis et al that states rights prevailed.

The dummies lost the war and the the US Government to this day prevails over state rights.

Didn't McDonnell finish elementary school?

Posted by: Maddogg | April 6, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

To RobParker: The fact that there ARE people want to honor people who were happy with the enslavement of other people is reason enough for the Congressional Black Caucus, BET, etc. However, BET is no longer Black owned, hence the horrible programming now. Members of the CBC are represent more than their Black constituents. And Affirmative Action stopped truly benefitting Black people in about 1982. Other minorities and White women have gained a bit more because other minorities and White women have had more of the specific qualifications for those AA needs (think AA set asides for a minority environmental engineering firm, for instance...how many of those do you think Black people have?). You are just being petty, like these Virginians.

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It's really too bad that the ignorant fail to educate themselves on the Civil War era. The ignorant immediately think RACISM. That would be tantamount to thinking that WWII was just about Jewish persecution.

It had nothing to do with slavery. The end of slavery was but a by-product of the war to appease our European allies. It was about state's rights. Much like the issues we have today with the overrach of our federal government.

So please, go educate yourself before you lump yourself into the mountain of liberal ignorance that already exists in the country.

Posted by: RobParker | April 6, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

someone wrote: "This is part of my heritage and I'm glad that the state is bringing all the rich history (regardless of your opinion about it) to light. We can certainly use the tourism dollars."


neo nazis vist the state of Jefferson and Washington in celebration of secession, slavery, bigotry and institutionalized racial hatred

and you "can certainly use the tourism dollars"

and the garbage that comes along with them

Posted by: jato11 | April 6, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I am saddened by this article and most of the resulting comments. It is truly heartbreaking that the majority of Virginians know practically nothing of their own history, believe without question what they are fed by their herders, and think what they are told to think.

Posted by: newoneironaut | April 6, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Yay!!! Let's all celebrate our proud heritage of slavery, bigotry, and treason. Yay!!!

Posted by: kurthunt | April 6, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Funny how very few Virginians have an issue with this. It's only the whining of the liberal losers who live in the broken down messes in Maryland and DC. Little do they realize that the economic disasters they live it can NEVER compare to the best state economy in the country.

Virginia continue to attract new companies by the hundreds each year. Wonder why they don't choose to live where liberals rule?

If you don't like Virginia, then stay on your side of the river, losers....


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I'm sorry I didn't realize the wealthiest and best educated state in the country (Maryland), and one of the wealthiest cities (DC) in the country were broken down messes. I'm also pretty sure New York and New Jersey are pretty liberal and have far more large businesses than Virginia.

Oh, btw 6 out of the 10 poorest states were part of the Confederacy.

Posted by: one4all | April 6, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure if most Southerners had known then what they know now, they would have picked their own cotton.

Posted by: kingsra | April 6, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I lived in south central Pennsylvania for three years, and saw more Confederate flags flying in that region than there are in south central Virginia. The Camp Curtin Historical Society, based in Harrisburg, erected a statue to Confederate General Albert G. Jenkins in Mechanicsburg, PA. The National Civil War Museum, which regularly displays artifacts on loan from the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond, is also located in Harrisburg. Souvenirs depicting symbols of the Confederacy are sold in shops in and around Gettysburg Battlefield. Should those stores be closed for selling “traitorous” keepsakes?

Sixty percent of the campaigns of the Civil War were fought in Virginia. The capital of the Confederacy was located in Richmond. Those are the facts, try as some may to whitewash or rewrite history. Anyone having a problem with that history should’ve thought about that before deciding to move here.

BTW, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center “Hate Map”, Pennsylvania has twenty-eight active hate groups (including the KKK) located there. Virginia has twenty-two, two of which are located in the northern region of the state.

Posted by: NativeNorthernVirginian | April 6, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

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Having roots in both Virginia and Pennsylvania - I can totally confirm this. I know more racists from PA than I do here in VA!! In fact, the hate groups in PA aren't just in South Central PA [like near Gettysburg] -- they're also near the Lehigh Valley and the coal region too.

Posted by: chrojo01 | April 6, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I know that most of you people don't agree with this but whether you like it or not it is apart of our countries history. I believe that it should be remembered and not forgotten... you can't just brush it under the rug like it never happened. I never really cared for having black history month while I was in school but I still had to learn about it. We would not be where we are today had the Confederacy not been fighting for what they believe nor the blacks fighting for what they believe.

Posted by: poohnjimmy02 | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I knew if I read enough comments I would find the the one about the war being about economics and not slavery.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I've heard that argument before and I still can't believe that anyone with average intelligence would buy into it.

I have lived in Virginia for 36 years and still feel embarrassment when I see the signs for Jefferson Davis Highway or the statue of the confederate soldier facing south.

Posted by: hodgensr | April 6, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Graymalkin

As people EVOLVED, they recognized that slavery was clearly wrong and majority of the north (not all) fought to end. A concept that you and others like McDonnell have yet to grasp.

Posted by: eveban | April 6, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry I didn't realize the wealthiest and best educated state in the country (Maryland), and one of the wealthiest cities (DC) in the country were broken down messes. I'm also pretty sure New York and New Jersey are pretty liberal and have far more large businesses than Virginia.

Oh, btw 6 out of the 10 poorest states were part of the Confederacy.
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DC is nowhere near one of the wealthiest cities in the country. And Maryland is a fiscal mess with tax rates so high that business are crossing the river into VA or moving to (you guessed it!) that horrible Confederate South, to places like NC, SC and GA.

Yep, Maryland is like heaven, at least to DC residents : )....

Posted by: RobParker | April 6, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

What's the big deal?....all those hippies want to celebrate diversity, Southern heritage should be part of that...the issue here is that he did something that wasn't politically correct...which is part of the problem with this country...if someone speaks their mind and others don't agree, then they are "racist"....if a confederate history month is racist, why isn't black history month? or hispanic history month? let's make Christmas racist, it doesn't include jewish people, or muslims....

Posted by: wild1intx62 | April 6, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

The day they took Old Dixie down............

Posted by: majorteddy | April 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh for goodness sake! If the whole purpose is to study Civil War history, then call the %@#$ month "Civil War History Month" and not "Confederate Whatever It Is Month". Pay attention people to this:
1-Gone With The Wind is not a history book.
2-The South lost the war. Get over it and MOVE ON.

Posted by: oypay | April 6, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

WHEREAS, it is important for all Virginians to reflect upon our Commonwealth’s shared history, to understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War, and to recognize how our history has led to our present;

Really? Is it not also important for all Virginians to reflect on and understand the sacrifices of African slaves during 250 years of bondage, which orginated in Virginia? Will there be a follow-up resolution to cover this aspect of our Commonwealth's shared history? This governor is a disgraceful coward and toady.

Posted by: Natmeister | April 6, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

"I'm totally bewildered by the tone of many "

The Civil War divided the country and left hundreds of thousands of Americans dead. A central issue was the enslavement of millions of other Americans.

And you're bewildered that this might make people angry, a governor in 2010 raising this issue and seeming to choose one side -- and the wrong side at that?

I am a black southerner and have been dealing with this nonsense all my life, this celebration of the Lost Cause. One of its great annoyances is that it assumes that only white southerners count as southerners. So I am not surprised that slavery was left out of the proclamation that is supposed to be about Virginian "history."

When rebel sympathizers say the war was just about economics, they are wholly ignoring that for blacks it was about anything but. It was about freedom.

So, no my tone is not going to be moderate on this issue. I think the tone of the proclamation is what is disgraceful. It's revisionism.

Posted by: mypitts2 | April 6, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Will Gov. McDonnell commemorate WWII by proclaiming Nazi History Month? He could have chosen to commemorate the Civil War by proclaiming "Civil War History Month" but that is not his intent. He has chosen to honor the Confederacy; the treason and slavery that it stood for. Virginia residents who don't like this fact should register and vote accordingly.

Posted by: gonats3 | April 6, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

@wsblount What exactly do you think the founding fathers were doing when they signed the declaration of independence? They were committing treason and taking up arms against the governing body!! Seemed to work out pretty well if you ask me... @everyone else I think this is a great idea! Now maybe for once people will actually learn something about the civil war and not just keep passing on the same misinformation, that The Confederate seperated SOLELY because they were against the abolishment of slavery. Also that now people will be able to talk about The Civil War in an open forum with out it being linked to race. Good Job Gov. Bob McDonnell!!

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Vacation? Not going to go there now. University tours? No, way, not with those odd measures aimed at discrimination (who's next, right?). Open a branch of our firm there? Not my call, but I hope I never have to travel there alone. So Virginia, you might as well put up a sign, "too scary for interstate commerce."

Posted by: lkovathana | April 6, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Really? Is it not also important for all Virginians to reflect on and understand the sacrifices of African slaves during 250 years of bondage, which orginated in Virginia? Will there be a follow-up resolution to cover this aspect of our Commonwealth's shared history? This governor is a disgraceful coward and toady.

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Are you suggesting that Black Americans haven't been recognized?

Please..... Let's just say that the pendulum has been swinging in that direction for the past 150 years.

Posted by: RobParker | April 6, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

More proof Virginia is not for Lovers anymore. Prince William County will be celebrating this event by profiling Latinos for driving while brown.

Posted by: areyousaying | April 6, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I tried to warn you, VA, now you too can be SC with unpayable debt, deficits projected for years to come and all reserves depleted. Already businesses are reconsidering their plans to relocate to VA. Following Joe Wilson's "You lie" outburst, Hilton Head got scratched as a convention site for many professional organizations due to concern about racial tension and how their diverse membership would be treated.

Posted by: xclntcat | April 6, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't it be called sore loser month?

What is their to "understand" about a treasonous and morally-bankrupt legacy?

If it remembered in the way we remember Auschwitz...as a reminder to highlight our past collective human failings and and how civilization is threatened by those who want to destroy others because of hate or power, sure. But I don't think this is what the fine governor has in mind.

"Yankee is what a loser calls a winner." - internet quote, author unknown

Posted by: danielburns | April 6, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

It isn't about the historical struggles between blacks and whites, it's about honoring the men who died for their states. Please learn your history before you comment. There were many other issues other than slavery that the war was fought over- That was the last thing on the list. The major point to it for the most part is one's allegiance to State vs Federal government.

Also for those who say the Confederates took up arms against the Union, you are completely wrong.
The Confederates wanted to secede peacefully from the Union but the Northern states plan was to take the South back forcefully. The bit over Fort Sumter was the North basically antagonizing the South into action. I am not from a southern state whatsoever, I'm not racist, I'm just educated. I recommend you all pick up some books and actually read a bit on the subject. What you are taught in school is completely one-sided.

It is because of the ridiculous comments like most of those on this article that I worry about teaching your children in a couple years because I'm sure I'll have to deal with you ignorant people soon.

Posted by: tession | April 6, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

DC is nowhere near one of the wealthiest cities in the country. And Maryland is a fiscal mess with tax rates so high that business are crossing the river into VA or moving to (you guessed it!) that horrible Confederate South, to places like NC, SC and GA.

Yep, Maryland is like heaven, at least to DC residents : )....

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Really how many MAJOR cities are wealthier? [I didn't say it was the WEALTHIEST (that's MD), I said ONE of the wealthiest.]

Yeah, let's just pretend that VA's budget is so perfectly balanced and pretend that $2 bil. deficit doesn't exist.

Let's also pretend that VA's unemployment rate isn't identical to Maryland's, and all those big companies you have there in Tyson's and Reston aren't cutting employees and posting losses left, right, and center.

Posted by: one4all | April 6, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

How about sulking wingnut month? Wouldn't that be more straight forward?

Posted by: Andrea_KC | April 6, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

This is all well and good. Who is going to plat Robert E Lee at the re-inactment at Appomattox Courthouse?

Maybe the Gov would volunteer for that role!

Posted by: gonfrmtn | April 6, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I think this is a great idea.

Now, every year, for an entire month, every Virginian can reflect on their unique place in history. They can atone for the sins of their ancestors and ask forgiveness from the millions of souls in heaven who lost their lives on the battlefield due to their treasonous war. They can ask forgiveness from the millions more souls here on earth who defended from slaves and still suffer from it in one way or another.

Oh, that's not what it's about?

Posted by: kurthunt | April 6, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

If Obama continues on his socialism path it may spark a revolt not seen since the battle between the states!

Posted by: jamespmarion | April 6, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

The Confederacy had the principal and overriding goal of retaining slavery -- relegating African-Americans to the legal status of property. Honoring the Confederacy in any way is an abomination.

Posted by: esch | April 6, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

The problem with history is that each side only wants their view to be presented. To understand America, one must present all U.S. History as it happened without a liberal or conservative slant. As they say you don't know where you are going unless you know where you have been. That is about 90% of the problem with most federal employees and elected leaders.

Posted by: CPTKILLER | April 6, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Do I get to whip negro man slave and rape my female negro slave for the month of April as well?

Honestly, what did Virginians expect when they elected an accolyte of the ayatollah Pat Robertson as their governor?

Posted by: jjedif | April 6, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

The outrage expressed here reflects a woeful lack of knowledge regarding the many reasons why this nation went to war in 1861. Slavery was alive and flourishing as an economic necessity in both the North and South until well into the early 1800s, and with a less centralized federal government many states did indeed feel themselves to be sovereign.

I agree that this "proclaimation" is tone-deaf and ill-timed. It would behoove us all, however, to learn the truth of that era, the ugliness and the eventual reunification of the nation stronger than before. Calling a large portion of the country "ignorant hicks" for simply having been born in the south is hardly enlightened.

Posted by: talitha1 | April 6, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Lest anyone forget why southern states seceded, let him read this passage from the Texas Declaration of Secession:

Feb. 2, 1861 --
"[T]he [abolitionists] have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States. . . .

We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; . . ."

THAT is what the Confederacy was about. I am a white Virginian and a former history teacher. I am offended by Gov. McDonnell's failure to recognize this side of Confederate history. Shame on him for pandering to a minority.

Posted by: truly1 | April 6, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Next Republicans in Massachusetts will be celebrating Cardinal Law day.

Posted by: areyousaying | April 6, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I see Virginia's Republican Governor still celebrates Treason against the United States of America. How can anyone vote for a man who sides with the enemy in an war on our country?

Posted by: NutmeggerYankee | April 6, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

It's a bit hypocritical for a fellow who proclaims his US patriotism to honor treason.

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Article III of the US Constitution

Section 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

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Is May going to be Axis Appreciation Month?

Posted by: R49Thomas | April 6, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Good for them!!!

Posted by: DCFanatic | April 6, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I think that Illinois should turn around a declare april to be "we kicked the tar out of those racist b@stard traitors month"

Posted by: kurthunt | April 6, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Really how many MAJOR cities are wealthier? [I didn't say it was the WEALTHIEST (that's MD), I said ONE of the wealthiest.]

Yeah, let's just pretend that VA's budget is so perfectly balanced and pretend that $2 bil. deficit doesn't exist.

Let's also pretend that VA's unemployment rate isn't identical to Maryland's, and all those big companies you have there in Tyson's and Reston aren't cutting employees and posting losses left, right, and center.

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Every state has deficits now. How large is Maryland's, by the way? thought so..

No less than FOUR major companies moved into Northern Virginia last year that I know of. I live in LA and we lost Hilton Hotels, Computer Sciences, SAIC. VW North America left Michigan (another liberal state) to move to Reston.

8 of the top 25 richest counties in the US are in Virginia to include the Top 2. Maryland has four. No DC to be found. Only way DC ranks on anything on wealth is when the suburbs are counted or if you count how many people the Democrats have paid off with tax dollars this year.

Posted by: RobParker | April 6, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Let's have history month for KKK,,, Apartheid,,, Al-Querida,,, and the Taliban

Posted by: kspcr | April 6, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Oooohhh I wish I was in Dixie, hoorah, HOORAH! In Dixie land I'll make my stand, to live and die, for Dixie!! Run those Stars and Bars up the pole folks! Woohoo!!!!

Posted by: state82 | April 6, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

If you just consider the ignorance of some of the people posting here, it shows that a month devoted to learning about the Civil War is a good idea.
Someone who learned about it on there own would discover that its not the same as the media and public schools would have you think.
For instance, slavery was decreasing rapidly before the war. When the war started, only 5% of the families in the south owned slaves. Only 1% of the families owned more than one.

The Civil War was not about slavery though. It was about Abe Lincoln and the Federal Government trying to use power that belonged to the states. It was about rivalries between states. The tenth amendment to the constitution says,
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Federal government was trying to force the states to end slavery, and since this is not constitutional, the South seceded.

Posted by: jts1994 | April 6, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

lets see, we now have seen used all the less colorfull slangs for an anglo individual. and i see that most of the wrighters offended by this artical are not hatefull in anyway. look we say no to CH month. then what? we say no to african american history mo. and go down the line. You fast judging nazi's make me sick. what's next, changing the constitution! or just some good ol book burning... if you hold the freedom of one thing in your hand and never release it how are you better. you put limits on things one by one and ofter a very short time all you have is limits. china, russia, nazi germany hey it work out for them right?

Posted by: shooter11 | April 6, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Celebrating the Confederacy whose economy depended on the slave labor of 4 Million human beings is obscene, not to mention un-Christian, and un-American. The Confederate Battle Flag has been a symbol of Segregation, the KKK, Jim Crow, cross burnings, and midnight lynchings, for over a century. A sybol of hate not unlike raising the Nazi flag near a synagogue. There's little difference.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 6, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

If you just consider the ignorance of some of the people posting here, it shows that a month devoted to learning about the Civil War is a good idea.
Someone who learned about it on there own would discover that its not the same as the media and public schools would have you think.
For instance, slavery was decreasing rapidly before the war. When the war started, only 5% of the families in the south owned slaves. Only 1% of the families owned more than one.

The Civil War was not about slavery though. It was about Abe Lincoln and the Federal Government trying to use power that belonged to the states. It was about rivalries between states. The tenth amendment to the constitution says,
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Federal government was trying to force the states to end slavery, and since this is not constitutional, the South seceded.

Posted by: jts1994 | April 6, 2010 7:06 PM
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Good post. It is sad what propaganda the media and public school system has turned into.

There are a lot of scars in America's past but if we are honest about them and stop creating fresh wounds with "social justice" the scars will heal and we will be better for it.

Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Goosecrick, you missed the point: His actions to declare April as Confederate month will drive away a bunch of would-be tourists too. Just look at all the people on this blog who wouldn't be going? This is CLEARLY A DIVISIVE tactic and a nod to the extreme right that put him in office. And Tesson, you canNOT honor the fallen soldiers of the Confederacy, without dredging up the past of slavery and rapes of innocent blacks and children. You CAN'T HONOR BOTH!! Rob Parker, Black Americans have NOT been recognized. You call Black History Month recognition for thousands of lynchings, RAPES and murders??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????? You don't even realize that Affirmative Action also assists women going into business as entrepreneurs! NO GOOD CAN COME FROM THIS!

I will say it again: YOU CANNOT HONOR THE CONFEDERACY WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE RAPES AND MURDERS OF INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS!!!!

One last thing to all you McDonnell apologists: Make sure you keep track of all those tourist dollars coming in and report back to us exactly how much came in from this racist stunt!

Posted by: gr8bigguy | April 6, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I think that Illinois should turn around a declare april to be "we kicked the tar out of those racist b@stard traitors month"

Posted by: kurthunt | April 6, 2010 7:03 PM
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We're talking about current events not 2012 elections.

Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

jts44....the Civil War at heart was a conflict over slavery. The entire reason the South seceeded from the union in 1861 was over Lincoln's stand on containing the spread of slavery in the western territories. Lincoln often commented that it was the issue of slavery that caused the southern states to seceed. The famous photo of Genl. Custer with his prisoner Genl. Custis Lee and a young black boy sitting out their feet. When asked about the photo Genl. Lee stated this photo embodied the entire war...the North, the South, and the Cause (young black). Four million human beings were kept in perpetual slavery. There's no historical revisionism going to paint that fact away.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 6, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Can we give all these redneck Civil War re-enactors real guns?

Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 6, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

How does one sign two dozen proclamations and not publish them. The idea of a proclamation is to proclaim something, to voice, to make known. Ridiculous.

Posted by: jmdziuban1 | April 6, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

If this was about Civil War education, then they could have EASILY made it "Civil War History Month". That certainly would not have required a "quiet proclamation"....that could have been done out in the open with minimal, if any, controversy.

This man is making a statement by calling it that....and not a pretty one. He knew this would cause controversy. He knew minorities would find it offensive and he did it anyway......just didn't care. And just when everyone was beginning to forget the "Macaca" incident. Yikes for VA.

Posted by: linz2 | April 6, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

As a Virginian who grew up with the proud Rebel temperatment, I have grown up to realize that there is much more world out there that demands my attention than a constant reminder of what was or what could have been. A careful review of the modern-day reflection on the Confederacy reveals an undercurrent of prejudice and hate. The presentation in history textbooks is enough. There is certainly no need for a Conferate History Month. My, how we are traveling backwards in time. It is time that we grew up in the South. I can only wonder what the eight Presidents who hailed from Virginia would say.

Posted by: EarlC | April 6, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

I really would like a Nazi history month, do you think McConnell will let me have it?

Posted by: biglio | April 6, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

For all you folks beating up on Virginians, I say hold on just a minute. Don't lump all Virginias in with those that voted for this idiot. I didn't. I predicted that this is the kind of thing we would have to deal with. It was clear to me when reports came out about his infamous thesis. He's a good ole white boy of the worst kind and I am ashamed that I am a Virginian and therefore viewed as an ignorant, backwards, KKK, Nazi-like hick.

Respectable citizens of Virginia should bombard Gov McDoofus with letters, telephone calls and email expressing their outrage, just as I plan to do. This is deplorable and only satisfies the old boy racists that lined his pockets with gold during his campaign. Thank god Virginia has a one-term limit for governers. I'll have to hold my nose until his term is over.

Posted by: Sofie230 | April 6, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Lol. Suck it up people. I'm a lib, but I have a PHD in History. We must learn from our mistakes. Nothing wrong with this. Obviously no one is condoning slavery. Get off your "political correctness" high horse and let our history be celebrated, taught.

Part of the Governor's Message talks about it being important noting that the south surrendered.

Posted by: mwalk1 | April 6, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of relevant historical events used for propaganda purposes is the inventions of Eli Whitney who is a great inventor.

The cotton gin pales in comparison to his historic, basically invention of mass production techniques used to launch the industrial revolution into full swing. That increased tensions due to gains in the north from manufacturing arguably even more than the cotton gin.

However due to distasteful reporting the cotton gin is emphasized more. Hopefully this has changed in school but i doubt it.

Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

what a jerk! Virginian voters made a mistake by voting for this jerk! You never trust a Republican no matter what shape they take.

Posted by: Ruptan | April 6, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

PS...and the main reason the South lost the war in the Fall of 1862 when, after Lincoln signed the Proclamation of Emancipation, both England and France (both having outlawed slavery in the early 19th century, could not in clear conscience
support the Confederate cause. Thus allowing Lincolns Navy to strangle the South's commerce and importation of arms.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 6, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

kinda sneaky of him, wasn't he supposed to be a moderate? oh yeah they can't win unless they lie about their real agenda.

Posted by: calif-joe | April 6, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

For your consideration, I suggest reading the Pollitically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War by H.W. Crocker III. I think it will enlighten and educate you. Some of what the media portrays as the "South" in the Civil War is not wholey accurate. And for further consideration, read the Letters of President Lincoln in the Congressional Library. Which also portrays, in his own words, what he wanted to do with the slaves after the war. Which had nothing to do with 5 acres and a mule but a large ship and a free ticket back to Africa. And last but not least, the slaves. Most of the monetary transactions for the purchass of slaves went thru the east coast banks. so lets all get our history facts right to start with and then draw from a clear picture.

Posted by: shooter11 | April 6, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

jts1994 and Cyros -- you both need to go read the actual words of the men who voted for secession. A helpful link for you: http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html Over and over again THEY tell you that they seceded so they could own slaves "in perpetuity" because the black race is inferior (so they argued).

Both of you argue that it was a Constitutional crisis, which it was in the strictly legal sense. However, it was a crisis that would not have existed without the Southern leaders' obsession with perpetuating slavery. The two issues cannot be honestly divorced from one another.

Sadly Gov. McDonnell has done so, thus distorting the very history he urges us to study.

Posted by: truly1 | April 6, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

If you just consider the ignorance of some of the people posting here, it shows that a month devoted to learning about the Civil War is a good idea.
Someone who learned about it on there own would discover that its not the same as the media and public schools would have you think.
For instance, slavery was decreasing rapidly before the war. When the war started, only 5% of the families in the south owned slaves. Only 1% of the families owned more than one.

The Civil War was not about slavery though. It was about Abe Lincoln and the Federal Government trying to use power that belonged to the states. It was about rivalries between states. The tenth amendment to the constitution says,
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Federal government was trying to force the states to end slavery, and since this is not constitutional, the South seceded.

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Please! This post is not even realistic. Tell that to my ancestors who had welts on their back from beatings. The Civil War was IN PART about slavery. It was about agriculture and means to develop economies. Who da hell is going to do that but slaves! And to your point about slavery decreasing before the war. It's laughable. First, by your own admission it wasn't obsolete. Second, can you say indentured servants?? Blacks had no formal education; thereby, automatically making them slaves AFTER the Emancipation Proclamation was signed. Third, this is clearly a tip of the hat to "state's rights" that you conveniently ignored in your post...which goes against everything that IS Civil Rights! Fourth, do you not read what you right: "When the war started, only 5% of the families in the south owned slaves. Only 1% of the families owned more than one." Umm...last I checked, you're admitting that slavery was still in effect. Geez!

Posted by: gr8bigguy | April 6, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

When black people in Virginia don't vote, this is what you get!

Posted by: martinmorones1962 | April 6, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

For all you folks beating up on Virginians, I say hold on just a minute. Don't lump all Virginias in with those that voted for this idiot. I didn't. I predicted that this is the kind of thing we would have to deal with. It was clear to me when reports came out about his infamous thesis. He's a good ole white boy of the worst kind and I am ashamed that I am a Virginian and therefore viewed as an ignorant, backwards, KKK, Nazi-like hick.
Posted by: Sofie230 | April 6, 2010 7:17 PM
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This is a pretty nasty, bigoted statement.

Ignorant people would be the only ones to view you that way from your location, and it sounds like from your post you have that impressions of people according to demographics.

Individuality -> any demographic I think you need to reanalyze your thoughts.

Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

My family came to Virginia in 1652 when you were fined 500 lb of tobacco if you missed church on Sunday. I will not 'celebrate' confederate month anymore than Germany would celebrate Nazi month. Shameful.

Posted by: baskervillehill | April 6, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

lol @ Ruptan

"what a jerk! Virginian voters made a mistake by voting for this jerk! You never trust a Republican no matter what shape they take."

You my friend are a prime example of why this country is in it's current state. Political affliation has no bearing on whether or not a person is/can be an idiot.

Posted by: crashtruck42 | April 6, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I want my state back.

Signed,
A Real American

Posted by: Gettysburg1 | April 6, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Is every Republican nuts?

Posted by: tom_walker | April 6, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Good grief what's next to celebrate?
Communist Party Month?

Posted by: Lamentations | April 6, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

God bless Governor McDonnell! Finally a Governor the represents REAL Virginia and not the liberal carpet baggers that ruined northern Virginia and is spreading south like a plague.
Confederates FOUGHT FOR SOMETHING unlike most Post readers. But there is a way to make Yankees happy declare the month of September "American Idol" or "Reality TV" month. That should appease them.

Posted by: SSTK34 | April 6, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

If you just consider the ignorance of some of the people posting here, it shows that a month devoted to learning about the Civil War is a good idea.
Someone who learned about it on there own would discover that its not the same as the media and public schools would have you think.
For instance, slavery was decreasing rapidly before the war. When the war started, only 5% of the families in the south owned slaves. Only 1% of the families owned more than one.

The Civil War was not about slavery though. It was about Abe Lincoln and the Federal Government trying to use power that belonged to the states. It was about rivalries between states. The tenth amendment to the constitution says,
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Federal government was trying to force the states to end slavery, and since this is not constitutional, the South seceded.

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Please! This post is not even realistic. Tell that to my ancestors who had welts on their back from beatings. The Civil War was IN PART about slavery. It was about agriculture and means to develop economies. Who da hell is going to do that but slaves! And to your point about slavery decreasing before the war. It's laughable. First, by your own admission it wasn't obsolete. Second, can you say indentured servants?? Blacks had no formal education; thereby, automatically making them slaves AFTER the Emancipation Proclamation was signed. Third, this is clearly a tip of the hat to "state's rights" that you conveniently ignored in your post...which goes against everything that IS Civil Rights! Fourth, do you not read what you right: "When the war started, only 5% of the families in the south owned slaves. Only 1% of the families owned more than one." Umm...last I checked, you're admitting that slavery was still in effect. Geez!

Posted by: gr8bigguy | April 6, 2010 7:22 PM
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You should read up on history again. No one is saying slavery didn't play a role or trying to diminish it. The past is a scar we need to put past us and let heal. The point of the post (I did not post but agree with its assessment) slavery was one of the things contributing to states rights issues.

Another issue leading to the Civil War was industrialization. Manufacturing in the North was making human labor less and less valuable since factories could churn out finished goods in an efficient manner.

This made the balance in economies off as southern goods still based on human labor was taking a hit.

The north was already killing the south economically and then was forcing them to get rid of slave labor. The states got defensive knowing their economy would get hit even harder and seceded.

This needed to happen in the US obviously; slavery is shameful (still happens around the world today).

Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

The GOP should now work at repealing anti-slavery laws. We should get America back to the way it used to be.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

logcabin wrote- PS...and the main reason the South lost the war in the Fall of 1862 when, after Lincoln signed the Proclamation of Emancipation, both England and France (both having outlawed slavery in the early 19th century, could not in clear conscience
support the Confederate cause. Thus allowing Lincolns Navy to strangle the South's commerce and importation of arms.
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BS, you don't have a clue. France did not join in because they were not confident that the south would survive and they were right.

Posted by: 12oreo | April 6, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

@gr8bigguy

If you read my comment closely, it would be clear that we can remember the history and celebrate the outcome... that is the outcome of all people becoming free.

Posted by: mwalk1 | April 6, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

gone from Thomas Jefferson and UVA to Pat Robertson and CBN with one election.

Posted by: Geopolitics101 | April 6, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

For those saying this is ignoring slavery, we have a national Black History Month. Read the legislation - slavery is in it. For better or for worse, the Confederacy helped shape this country too and it's capital was in Virginia. I don't see the big deal over this. Blacks (free and slaves) had a big part in the Confederacy too - "Free black musicians, cooks, soldiers and teamsters earned the same pay as white confederate privates. This was not the case in the Union army where blacks did not receive equal pay. At the Confederate Buffalo Forge in Rockbridge County, Virginia, skilled black workers earned on average three times the wages of white Confederate soldiers and more than most Confederate army officers ($350- $600 a year)."

Posted by: HokieDoke | April 6, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Ok I get it. The Governor wants to honor those people that fought to keeps blacks in slavery.

What is next - honoring the Nazis because they fought hard to kill 6 million Jews and 6 million others.

And the GOP is pround of this man. What a country.

Posted by: MarkfromNYC | April 6, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

"The rest of you liberals can go live in Maryland. Home of the Homosexuals."

Really? What about the 1st Maryland Infantry that served throughout the war in Gen. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia? Or Admiral Raphael Semmes from Charles County, architect of the Confederate Navy? Since it is Confederate History Month, show some respect for your neighbors across the river.

Posted by: fleeciewool | April 6, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

How about a bondage and strippers' month?

This is most definitely a part of the American heritage.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

It's ludicrous to say that every soldier in the South was fighting because of racism, and every soldier in the North was fighting because they were not racist. Most of the southern soldiers were poor and had no slaves.

The soldiers fighting for the Confederacy were real men who suffered and died and they've a right to have their story remembered. I live near the new Mosby museum and I'm glad it's been renovated. We can't bury history by ignoring it.

Posted by: EowynR | April 6, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

This is a pretty nasty, bigoted statement.

Ignorant people would be the only ones to view you that way from your location, and it sounds like from your post you have that impressions of people according to demographics.

Individuality -> any demographic I think you need to reanalyze your thoughts.
Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

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My guess is that you support his opinion that women should stay in their place - home and pregnant. Or that gays have no place in society. Call me a bigot if you like. That still leaves Virginians with a great big one in the governer's office.

I'll not defend my opinion to you.

Posted by: Sofie230 | April 6, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

logcabin wrote- PS...and the main reason the South lost the war in the Fall of 1862 when, after Lincoln signed the Proclamation of Emancipation, both England and France (both having outlawed slavery in the early 19th century, could not in clear conscience
support the Confederate cause. Thus allowing Lincolns Navy to strangle the South's commerce and importation of arms.
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BS, you don't have a clue. France did not join in because they were not confident that the south would survive and they were right.

Posted by: 12oreo | April 6, 2010 7:32 PM
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Yep.

There are some common themes during this period and throughout human history.

In international relations generally many countries whether "good" or "evil" often engage in ways that will be on the winning side and/or weaken their adversaries.

Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

When the Confederate memorials now ensconced at courthouses throughout the south are finally obliterated as an offense to decency and justice I might have some faith that a truthful rendition of Confederate history is possible. In 2010 we still have citizens looking for justice in places surrounded by tributes to the men and government who dedicated themselves to the continued slavery of their ancestors. It is an abomination.
At least Germany had the decency to outlaw any memorializing or glorification of the Third Reich. How I wonder would all the decedents of Confederate veterans react to the Nazi flag flying all across Germany as a tribute to the bravery of the German soldiers who fought to enslave Europe and annihilate the Jews.
Both the Confederacy and the Third Reich belong on the garbage dump of history as examples of the evil men are willing to be complicit with in order to alleviate their feelings of inadequacy and fear of failure.

Posted by: DCreamer1 | April 6, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

This is a pretty nasty, bigoted statement.

Ignorant people would be the only ones to view you that way from your location, and it sounds like from your post you have that impressions of people according to demographics.

Individuality -> any demographic I think you need to reanalyze your thoughts.
Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

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My guess is that you support his opinion that women should stay in their place - home and pregnant. Or that gays have no place in society. Call me a bigot if you like. That still leaves Virginians with a great big one in the governer's office.

I'll not defend my opinion to you.

Posted by: Sofie230 | April 6, 2010 7:37 PM
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More bigotry. Sad.

Posted by: Cryos | April 6, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I only had to look at the first post to see how ignorant some of the posters would be. The South did not take up arms against the North nor did they attack the North. They took up arms and defended their home state which had seceded from the union and was invaded by federal forces.

If some of you would take a course in history and read about the war and the reasons it was fought (slavery was one issue of many), you might find out that men on both sides were brave and fought with honor (not counting Sherman.)

Most of you probably have an ancestor who fought in the war. Some, like me, have ancestors on each side. My GGGrandfather died at Pt. Lookout. He fought with the Ga. regiment. Another fought with the Iowa regiment.

Don't you think that these AMERICANS deserve to be honored for their sacrifices? This isn't about race and the war wasn't all about slavery. I guess those of you who feed at the trough of ignorance won't take the time to find out the truth.

Posted by: bigjohn767 | April 6, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

It's ludicrous to say that every German soldier in Germany was fighting because of racism, and every soldier in the Allies was fighting because they were not racist. Most of the German soldiers were poor and killed no Jews.

The soldiers fighting for Germany were real men who suffered and died and they've a right to have their story remembered, We need a Nazi history museum to commemorate it. We can't bury history by ignoring it.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

The Confederacy stood for the hallowed principal that the light skinned should be able to buy and sell the dark skinned. Lest there be any doubt about the purpose of the Confederacy, check out the Texas Declaration of Secession:

Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility [sic] and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?

The controlling majority of the Federal Government, under various pretences and disguises, has so administered the same as to exclude the citizens of the Southern States, unless under odious and unconstitutional restrictions, from all the immense territory owned in common by all the States on the Pacific Ocean, for the avowed purpose of acquiring sufficient power in the common government to use it as a means of destroying the institutions of Texas and her sister slave-holding States.

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/secession/2feb1861.html

What about a Spanish Inquisition history proclamation?

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

I am half-black and half-white. I had family on both sides during the Civil War and ironically, my best friend's family used to own my mom's side of the family.

I think it is about time that our nation got over the scare of being 'politically correct' and this is a step in the right direction. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that Virginia was a major part of the Confederacy. That is part of our nation's history and should not be forgotten just because some people think everything should be 'politically correct.'

We have months acknowledging all kinds of things, some of them far-fetched at best. A month devoted to such a pivotal point in our nation's history should not be a problem. It is about remembering our history, not putting it out of our minds. The Civil War helped shape the nation that we now live in.

To all those blacks out there whining about this - get over yourselves. The majority of the battles during the Civil War were fought in this state (one that I can proudly call my state). Men and women from all walks of life bled and died on both sides. We should not focus on the Union alone. Focus on the whole war, both sides, and try to understand why the people at that time were going through.

Do not forget our history. Our history is what makes our nation what it is.

If you feel like you have to respond to me, write me at caveolupus@yahoo.com.

Posted by: caveolupus | April 6, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Cryos,

No slavery, no Civil War. That's the bottom line.

Slavery was THE issue. States rights was the pretext that plantation owners used to motivate others to die in their stead.

It's also worth adding that "states" rights cut both ways. When freedmen, or fugitives landed in free states, the citizens within these states invoked states rights too to prevent the repatriation of these former slaves (and lost the argument in the Courts; they didn't respond to these losses in the Courts or in an election by engaging in an armed insurrection).

People can dress up the causes of the civil war in all sorts of fancy ways. e.g. differences in culture, etc. If you pull back the veneer the issue was "slavery, slavery, slavery". Certainly there were many in the south who sincerely believed they were dying for some high-minded idea; that this was some kind of "second revolution" -- the reality is obviously something that was much darker. Slavery was so deeply ingrained in southern culture at that point, that like a junkie they just couldn't quit their addiction.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

No less than FOUR major companies moved into Northern Virginia last year that I know of. I live in LA and we lost Hilton Hotels, Computer Sciences, SAIC. VW North America left Michigan (another liberal state) to move to Reston.

8 of the top 25 richest counties in the US are in Virginia to include the Top 2. Maryland has four. No DC to be found. Only way DC ranks on anything on wealth is when the suburbs are counted or if you count how many people the Democrats have paid off with tax dollars this year.

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Please do some research. DC is the THIRD WEALTHIEST CITY with a population of 500,000 or more behind only Seattle and SF, and is in the top 20 for populations >100K.

How many of those counties are not in Democrat-filled Northern Virginia (which is keeping the rest of the state afloat)? Maryland is STILL the wealthiest since the wealth isn't concentrated in 5% of the state. Numerous Maryland counties from Calvert to Carroll are in the top 100 wealthiest.

Apart from Northern Virginia the rest of the republikkkan South is dirt poor, and poorly educated. It's amazing they even have time to celebrate such an embarrasing point of their history.


Regarding those companies you mentioned, half of SAIC's and CSC's employees are in Maryland. Northrop Grumman will also probably choose MoCo for its new home, joining Lockheed Martin (Bethesda) which is the largest company in the area.

Take a look at some headlines in today's Wash. Biz Journal:

From MD:
-Vocus moves HQ in Prince George’s County
"Vocus Inc. is nearly doubling the size of its headquarters by moving...to Beltsville."
-FDA takes entire JBG building in Twinbrook
-Anne Arundel lures ITT Corp., 90 new jobs to Hanover
"ITT Corp. has selected Hanover for a worldwide training center focused on information technology"

From VA:
-New fees possible in Fairfax County

So much for all the businesses leaving Maryland for the South...

Posted by: one4all | April 6, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

This is akin to Germany declaring April, "National Nazi History Month," or Cambodia declaring April, "Khmer Rouge History Month." Make no mistake, African Americans as slaves lived under the most brutal and unimaginably harsh conditions imaginable. The South stood for slavery and that was the basis of her economy. Looks like Virginia is trying to send Obama a message. Virginia's governor is guilty of treason with his "proclamation," but at least we know now where he, and many other Conservatives, are really coming from!

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm from the North, but I have no problem with this. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died on both sides. They need to be remembered, all of them. Should we treat those who died on the losing side as traitors and criminals, or worse, erase them from our collective memory? Stamping out and denigrating a land's history is only a recipe for bitterness, anger, and conflict.

Posted by: noodleman | April 6, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

This is akin to Germany declaring April, "National Nazi History Month," or Cambodia declaring April, "Khmer Rouge History Month." Make no mistake, African Americans as slaves lived under the most brutal and unimaginably harsh conditions. The South stood for slavery and that was the basis of her economy. Looks like Virginia is trying to send Obama a message. Virginia's governor is guilty of treason with his "proclamation," but at least we know now where he, and many other Conservatives, are really coming from!

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if McDonnell will re-enact the Slavers buying and selling slaves?

Its odd though a politician would want to celebrate a defeated nation and army. McDonnell would do better to educate the people of his state on what that defeat meant.

McDonnell probably doesn't know that the Civil War proclaimed that the Federal Government has the last word. Which includes the last word on Health Care Reform.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 6, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

you must be joking right.

Posted by: vmh6030 | April 6, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Giving any semblance of nobility to Confederate heroes is a tragedy.

The lowliest slave who tried to escape to freedom was a million times a better man than any Confederate, including RE Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and especially Jeff Davis.

Much of Confederate "history" is whitewashed, literally and figuratively, when virtually all of it had to do with slavery. The Confederates were so aggressive they even seized blacks in the North on their raids and brought them into slavery.

Nearly every state's document of secession mentions slavery, often in the first paragraph, as the reason for secession.

And they were violent, brutal, vengeful slavers who slaughtered and tortured those who disobeyed or tried to escape.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I love it! If this doesn't get the leftist's panties in a skid marked stained knot, nothing will..

Posted by: wewintheylose | April 6, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

The mainstream media and Demoncraps are going wild!! I LOVE it!!!

Know this, liberal sellouts: WE DON'T CARE.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Whats next, nazi history month. If not why, salavery, genocide, which is more inhumane.

Posted by: hduckson49 | April 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

This will definitely win McDonnell some support from the important "Unemployed Trailer Park Dweller with More Than 60 Weapons Stashed In His Double-Wide" demographic.

Kudos to Bob McDonnell and the Republicans for so assiduously courting this important, under-represented constituency.

Posted by: SkyBeaver | April 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/denson6.html

A very interesting read...but I guess it would only be such for those with an open mind. Otherwise how are you any better that those you condemn as being backwoods,racist bigots. So many people on here want to bash the south and the reasons they fought. It didn't start over slavery, those men(and many boys) fought bravely.

Win or lose their deaths, every one of them, impacted someone else.On both sides wives lost husbands, mothers lost sons and children lost their fathers. Too many babies came into this world only to never be seen or held by their fathers. As I said before, on BOTH sides.

I think it is a wonderful idea to have a Confederate history month. Not only to remember the tragic loss of life but to also encourage people to study the history of this country and not just follow blindly where they are lead, and assume truth in sterotypes. As so many of you on here have stepped up to do with all the name calling and bashing of Southern states.

Posted by: WFG77 | April 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Progressives, into the breeches. Recall this joker from office.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian

Uhhh, I think you mean "Into the breach" (meaning storm the gap in the defensive wall) or "Into the trenches." Unless you are exhorting progressives to put on antique knee-length trousers.

Posted by: msh41 | April 6, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Are we supposed to be surprised? McDonnell and Cucci-coo seem determined to turn VA back into Gooberville. Stars 'n Bars, gay-bashing, gun worshipping, Bible-thumping...it's all good.

Posted by: st50taw | April 6, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

As a side note,before you talk about civil liberties and the South, just remember that Abe Lincoln made George Bush's Patriot Act look libertarian. And Lincoln is still the greatest president.

Posted by: noodleman | April 6, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

could there be a more morally bankrupt cause than the confederacy? other than nazism? remembering is different than commemorating.

Posted by: vavoter | April 6, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

What next, nazi month?

Posted by: abigsam | April 6, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't Spain have a Spanish Inquisition Month?

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Just wondering after all these comments.....what is wrong with recognizing the past in order to promots tourism, or in order to understand our past history as a nation? No different than a black history month. How are we to learn from past mistakes/sucesses if we deny our past? And BTW all these racist comments regarding the south or southeners in general make you no better than those you try to belittle.

Posted by: jlfudge | April 6, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

there's one good thing about his action. He's now forfeited any chance of winning a higher office.

Posted by: annie7 | April 6, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

"They took up arms and defended their home state which had seceded from the union and was invaded by federal forces."
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Sedition and treason are not things to be celebrated.

Posted by: squier13 | April 6, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Is Michael Steele laying a wreath at the tomb of RE Lee?

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 6, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Governor McDonnell needs to invite Sudan's President Bashir to bedizen an annual celebration of this pukka concept. It would be sort of like the annual thing with the Cherry Blossoms, you know, where the Japanese folks come with their Kimonos to bless them with the Mayor of Washington, DC.

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

OF course, this is why they hate Obama so much. But furthermore, Blacks should understand that they are not welcome in Virginia.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Main celebration to be held at Appomattox? The South still can't get over the fact that they lost!

Posted by: Maddogg | April 6, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

This fall we will cripple the Clown and then eject him in 2012. In between, we will torture him by repealing his doings and taunting him at his State of the Union addresses.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 6, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Graymalkin, I believe you are mistaken, there is no right of secession in the Constitution.

Posted by: hairguy01 | April 6, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

What is this country coming to? Pretty soon we'll be commemorating the men who fought against the British empire so they could steal land from the Native Americans. Oh wait...

Posted by: noodleman | April 6, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Yes we DO prefer that they stay in Maryland and D.C., thank you.

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 6, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Cryos: Unless you have something of significance to say, go post responses to someone else's comment.

It is very well known that the term "Confederate" is a provacative one. He could have declared it Civil War Education Month and not received this kind of backlash. I can only think it is deliberate. And, I'm not alone. Just look through the other posts. But then you must think we are all uninformed bigots. I might, of course, choose to believe our governer simply doesn't have a sensitive bone in his body. In which case, I would still feel bad for my fellow Virginians.

If he doesn't have advisors to prevent him from making these types of callous errors in judgement, then he certainly needs to hire some. Otherwise, people will continue to think of him as a hypocrit and racist.

Posted by: Sofie230 | April 6, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The South is still down trodden receiving almost all the welfare money for the white folks, the former slave owners.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 6, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I won't even buy gas in your racialist commonwealth

Posted by: chargers | April 6, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

you are all to busy talking over on another. black, white, who cares. I'm a southerner and i dont care who i eat or drink after. so why should you.

Posted by: shooter11 | April 6, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

The republikans show their true colors again!! Next up, Jim Crow Month in May and Sheriff Clark Month in June.

Posted by: fudador | April 6, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

What an earth scum! No wonder he "quietly" declare it. Why all politicians are so spineless? He should hold a TV conference to announce his belief.

Posted by: drkly | April 6, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Look at these comments....the dumbing-down of the United States has been all too successful..........

Posted by: mrbillsdog | April 6, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh my G ... I cannot believe the Governor would raise this ghost from the dead! This decision will come back to haunt him. Governor McDonald can forget any national ambitions he may have had. He is now unelectable.

This will prove to be a Pandora's Box. Stupid decision.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | April 6, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

First, the article is short and to the point. Well written.
Second, the institution of slavery was/is bad (duh).
Third, I don't know the exact numbers, but I have heard and believe that slaves were considered expensive pieces of property (very expensive... think Lamborghini expensive... most Americans drive cars, but very very few drive Lamborghini's) the 5% of southerners owning slaves seems like even that number may be high. For the most part the slaves were used as unskilled labor for the large farmers/plantation owners. The vast majority of the southerners, poorly educated and economically "challenged", couldn't afford a slave even if they wanted one. As is always the case, these poorly educated masses are easily led to believe whatever might be hip at the time... (How many voted for (or against) Obama? How many voted for the last American Idol?). Tens of thousands AMERICANS (North & South), volunteered, were conscripted, or otherwise fought, not for politicians of the day, slavery or to free the slaves, but to support and defend their homes, and to provide for the safety and security of their families.

Fourth, as anyone can see the root causes and ideas on ways to solve the problems that started the war are STILL debatable. Therefore it is good that folks discuss it and share their ideas (stating "The governor is a hillbilly redneck hick" doesn't really resolve the matter or prove any point... does it?)

Lastly, I wonder if we can draw corollaries on economics in the south were the slave labor WAS the driver of the economy, and the current economic problems, particularly where the United States are enslaved by our energy consumption to the middle east?

Posted by: dlp1701 | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy so much as a single finishing nail in that stinking state. Let's march to Richmond and burn it down again.

Posted by: fudador | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Fair is Fair, a Black history month, and a Confederate history month. It is amazing how one-sided, politically correct we have become. Anyone denying, or opposing April for Confederate history, is just as much a bigot. We cannot have one point of view, and we have a right in this country to have the point of view we choose, popular or not. If all are to be represented, then represent all.

Posted by: Racerx63 | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

People get over your self righteousness. Whats wrong with observing a huge part of american heritage. For the most part, most children today know nothing about our country's history. Whether you like it or not the civil war happened. Its part of how our country was built and formed. For all of you ignorant people out there making comments about it being racial and or neo nazi to have a confederate history month get over it. If you truely knew the history behind it you would know that slavery was not even the main issue. It was states rights! Which is the problem we are having now with the federal goverment. They are gaining to much power and control. But maybe your still cheering over the fact that you voted for change and blind to whats really going on. How is that working out for ya? I have several ancestors who where in the civil war. Why should they be forgotten? Nearly 600,000 people died during the civil war fighting for there homes and there beliefs. Why should they be forgotten? Pull your heads out of your rear ends and find a real issue in todays society to complain about.

Posted by: wildcat8360 | April 6, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Bob McDonnell because he was the better candidate. I did so putting a lot of faith in McDonnell to keep his backward social views out of government. He has not. I'm ashamed to live in this state. He lost my vote.

Posted by: damascuspride04 | April 6, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy so much as a single finishing nail in that stinking state. Let's march to Richmond and burn it down again.
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Good. You stay in Maryland and D.C. with your ilk. Thank you.

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 6, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Come listen to my story 'about a man named Jed.

Posted by: markiejoe | April 6, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Apparently ya'll dont know crap. Sorry I was using Southern yext to get aYankees point to get attention. First after reading your (ya'lls)comments from up here in the North none of you went to grammar class nor learned to use spellcheck so you(ya'll) shouln't be commenting on history because you(ya'll) have no idea what it was all about. Guess you(ya'll) should start way back when the first war was started and read that History so you(ya'll) would understand what happened then and what is happening now. Healthcare is Obamas payback for the "Civil Unrest" in this country and for the past of our forefathers. So be it. Bring it on but True Americans and you know who you are will rise above and bring this country back to what it should and will be. Are you sure you want to throw away over 200 years of greatness over a few sniveling persons who have their own agenda? If you are old enough to remember what a great nation we were then look at us now. God Bless America.

Posted by: sdmtruck | April 6, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable. Way to make Virginians look stupid!

Posted by: BushMustGo | April 6, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys we say we are smart and we know everything but all we are doing is proving how damn stupid most of us are . This only proves that over 90% of us know nothing about the civil war . It had nothing at all to do with treason and actually very little to do with slavery or race . It was much bigger than that . Gov. McDonnell needs to be praised for what he has done . Cant we have a history ? We have black history month why cant we have a white history month or a Mexican or a Greek . What the hell is wrong with you people grow up and read and learn for a change . The sad thing is the average black knows very little about his history and that is very sad because they are missing out on a lot . That goes for all races . God give us a mind to use and grow not to to take out and play rocks with it .

Posted by: alanadams2001 | April 6, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Wildcat8360, perhaps we should observe some other huge parts of our history like...segregation month, or lynching month, or internment camp month.

That half our nation tried to destroy the union is really not worth observing except as a history lesson in how to be defeated.

Posted by: agolembe | April 6, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I support what VA has Done Good Job ..even if they had not acted so Every time a "Taps" is played The South is Honored.

The Origin of "Taps"

Fighting on opposite sides, father and son meet one last time on a War Between the States battlefield. Found in the dying boy's pocket is the melody now known as "Taps?"

It all supposedly began in 1862 during the War Between the States, when Union Army Captain Robert Ellicombe was with his men near Harrison's Landing in Virginia. The Confederate Army was on the other side of the narrow strip of land.

During the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moan of a soldier who lay mortally wounded on the field. Not knowing if it was a Union or Confederate soldier, the captain decided to risk his life and bring the stricken man back for medical attention.

Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the captain reached the stricken soldier and began pulling him toward his encampment. When the captain finally reached his own lines, he discovered it was actually a Confederate soldier, but the soldier was dead. The captain lit a lantern.

Suddenly, he caught his breath and went numb with shock. In the dim light, he saw the face of the soldier. It was his own son. The boy had been studying music in the South when the war broke out. Without telling his father, he had enlisted in the Confederate Army.

The following morning, heartbroken, the father asked permission of his superiors to give his son a full military burial despite his enemy status.

His request was partially granted. The captain had asked if he could have a group of Army band members play a funeral dirge for the son at the funeral.

That request was turned down since the soldier was a Confederate. Out of respect for the father, they did say they could give him only one musician.

The captain chose a bugler. He asked the bugler to play a series of musical notes he had found on a piece of paper (wrapped in part of a flag) in the pocket of his dead son's uniform. This wish was granted. This music was the haunting melody we now know as "Taps" that is used at all military funerals.


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Posted by: WindSongNauck | April 6, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I think I better move to Maryland soon.

Posted by: sirkanosugrad | April 6, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I applaud the Gov.'s decision to dedicate a Confederate History month. The Confederacy and the Civil War was about more than just slavery. It was about States' rights, as written into the Constitution, and the Federal government blatantly breaching those rights. Slavery was the biggest catalyst for the split between the North and South, and slavery was a horrible institution that can't be defended. BUT people need to realize that the vast, vast majority of Confederate soldiers were NOT slave owners at all; they were regular working class men who were fighting for their State rights and the Southern lifestyle and morals - not slavery per say. It is part of the South's history; there were good parts and those should be honored by those who wish to do so. There's a "Black History Month" , yet there's plenty of unsavory, murderous parts to black history in America...

Posted by: 75Ranger | April 6, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

As someone who truly believes that Robert E. Lee should have been hung for treason, I am not exactly the biggest supporter of Governor McDonalds great step forward.

But, that being said, I think we should have a "Lock Up A Japanese" month to celebrate the rounding up of 3 million Japanese in 1942 because they were, ummmm, Japanese.

That makes about as much sense.

Posted by: singleseatbiggermeat | April 6, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Forgot Watergate Rules. :-(

Posted by: sdmtruck | April 6, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Read all these comments. Still don't get why the Confederacy deserves to be honored. If I knew my great-great-grandfather decided he'd rather hold slaves than be an American, I'd keep that amusing tid-bit to myself.

Posted by: jonmiller1 | April 6, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Relax, liberals. Your shrill protests fall on deaf ears. This is part of real history for Virginia, not your rewrite. If you don't live here, please refrain from commenting. If you live here and don't like it, please move to Maryland or D.C. Happy to see you gone. As the "The One" says, "elections matter" and we won the last one with a landslide. Liberals in Virginia were crushed and we intend to do the same thing to them again this November. Can you spell, "Good bye to Pelosi and Reid"? Can't wait for November 2 to get here.

Posted by: dcmowbray1 | April 6, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell and Cuccinelli are who they are. (Sad). The real issue here are the voters who elected them. Apparently there are many Virginians who think our finest moment was the Civil War. They lost and still can't get over it. If people of their ilk keep getting elected over and over again Virginia will continue to be a second class place to live much like the rest of the South.

Posted by: fabricmaven1 | April 6, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Slavery was defended by everyone in the old Confederacy regardless of how many could afford to own slaves or not. The entire premise was that some people, Whites, were created by God better then Blacks and that Blacks were inferior and should be subservient. Saying the old South and Confederacy was about more then slavery, is true, but it's also like saying Nazi Germany was about more then the murder of 6 million Jews, which is also true. The Confederacy is rightly associated with the atrocities it stood for and permitted, same as Nazi Germany or Joseph Stalin. Why should it be otherwise?

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

the comments on here are hillarious especially this one. lol


Anyway, at first I wasn't fully convinced that McDonnell and his AG were seeking to turn Virginia into Mississippi, but now it's obvious.

Let's do a quick recap of what these wingnuts have done in the few months they have been in control of VA-

1. cut money for education
2. make it easier to purchase guns
3. allow guns in restaurants and bars
4. sue the federal government
5. and now restart the "celebration" of Confederate History Month

This in just 3 months! Can't wait to see what the state looks like in 3 YEARS. A new Civil War, the legalization of slavery, the KKK being the biggest lobbying group in Richmond. Who knows?

One thing is for sure though, after 8 years of progress Virginia will turn into just another backwater state, like the rest of the South state (except South Florida).
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Funny! Look at what's happened since LBJ: trillions of social welfare entitlements to blacks, and what do the liberals have to show for it: destroyed public schools, cities, and emptied treasuries. What a fool you are!!

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 6, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell and Cuccinelli are who they are. (Sad). The real issue here are the voters who elected them. Apparently there are many Virginians who think our finest moment was the Civil War. They lost and still can't get over it. If people of their ilk keep getting elected over and over again Virginia will continue to be a second class place to live much like the rest of the South.

Posted by: fabricmaven1 | April 6, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Some of the comments on here show how many leftist's and liberals read the Washington Post. Before you begin spouting diatribe against the civil war and the south's accession you need to study your history. The civil war was mostly fought for state's rights. There is a very good book that is written by historians about the whole war that is very informative and eye opening. The title is, "The South Was Right." Before making any assumptions or predetermined opinions I ask you to read the book and then come to an informed and educated opinion on the war and the brave men and women on both sides that served.

Posted by: michael_carmack0946 | April 6, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I love Texas, but assuredly do not think our part in the Confederacy was something to be proud of.

What the heck? Why not celebrate Governor Lamar's Indian Clearance Policy?

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Ok... For those who have posted that the war "wasn't about slavery" (instead it was about tariffs, or "state's rights", or whatever), there's no reason to debate the reasons for secession. South Carolina wrote out a detailed declaration which spelled it out. Their list of grievances essentially all are about slavery. A sample:

"We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that 'Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free,' and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction."

There are, in fact, no grievances listed in the Southern Declaration of Independence that aren't about slavery.

After they passed this document, the South Carolina legislature issued "The Address of the people of South Carolina, assembled in Convention, to the people of the Slaveholding States of the United States".

You'll notice that the appeal is to slaveholding states, not to "agrarian states persecuted by heavy tariffs".

The war was over secession. Secession was over slavery. Therefore, the war was over slavery.

Get over it. Those of us who had Confederate ancestors have ancestors who fought for the wrong side.

Posted by: thekohler | April 6, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Just wait till this Governor starts going after gays, the teaching of evolution in the schools, and pro-choice advocates. You know that's coming, don't you?

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

to Johnmiller 1
Just because someone was from the south didnt mean they owned slaves or even supported it.

Posted by: wildcat8360 | April 6, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Well. So much for my yearly trip to Chincoteague Island. I will not spend my hard earned United States of America money in any state that still countenances treason. I suggest more people do the same.

Posted by: grasonvilleed | April 6, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell and Cuccinelli are who they are. (Sad). The real issue here are the voters who elected them. Apparently there are many Virginians who think our finest moment was the Civil War. They lost and still can't get over it. If people of their ilk keep getting elected over and over again Virginia will continue to be a second class place to live much like the rest of the South.
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Hilarious!! Care to go to Detroit or East St. Louis?? How about the Chicago's south side?? How about Trenton?? Talk about blighted, horrid scum of the earth!! BWAHAHAHA!!!!

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 6, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Virginia sucks! I would never live in a place with so many rednecks NASCAR tracks and trailer parks.

New Jersey and Maryland ftw!

Posted by: BigDickBrad | April 6, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

If you just consider the ignorance of some of the people posting here, it shows that a month devoted to learning about the Civil War is a good idea.
Someone who learned about it on there own would discover that its not the same as the media and public schools would have you think.
For instance, slavery was decreasing rapidly before the war. When the war started, only 5% of the families in the south owned slaves. Only 1% of the families owned more than one.

The Civil War was not about slavery though. It was about Abe Lincoln and the Federal Government trying to use power that belonged to the states. It was about rivalries between states. The tenth amendment to the constitution says,
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Federal government was trying to force the states to end slavery, and since this is not constitutional, the South seceded.

Posted by: jts1994 | April 6, 2010 7:06 PM
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Good post. It is sad what propaganda the media and public school system has turned into.

There are a lot of scars in America's past but if we are honest about them and stop creating fresh wounds with "social justice" the scars will heal and we will be better for it.
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I guess you two like to ignore history, change it , and call it "liberal propaganda" when it does not agree with you.

It is true that the war was generally about state rights...Yet, you tactfully omit that the "right" the states claimed was being abridged by the federal Government "was the right to declare black people as property to be owned." I wonder whether you actually believe prior 13th 14th and 15th amendments that the states actually had that right.

You may argue that prior adoption of the 14th amendment's due process clause, the bill of right and the federal constitution only applied to the federal government. yet, such does not contradict the fact that at the time virtually all state constitutions adopted similar due process guarantees to life, LIBERTY, and property, under which Every Person had equal protection under the law.

To argue that this war was predominantly about state rights is naive and even intentionally biased.

As to the statistical argument that slavery was decreasing, I have no data to compare those figures, other than your assertion. Yet, your argument still fails on the basis that decreasing ownership of slavery does not negate the fact that the south still wished to retain people as property.

Posted by: jlm062002 | April 6, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I love it. What do you mean states rights? The right to kill and torture black people? What about peoples' rights? McDonnell is either a coward, a racist or both. the confederacy should not be celebrated. what is there to celebrate? a bunch of rich people tricked a bunch of rednecks into fighting for them. sounds familiar.

Posted by: good1 | April 6, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

When Obama visits Virginia, her Governor will have him use a separate entrance to enter the Capitol Building. You know the one with the broken steps and rusty door knob. You know, the one that use to be marked, "entry for Colored Maids and Servants."

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse


THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS THE PARTY OF RACISM.

THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS THE PARTY THAT HAS KEPT THE BLACK PEOPLE ON THE PLANTATION.

KEEP VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRATS BLACK PEOPLE AND KEEP YOURSELF ENSLAVED.


ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - They've been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement—and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president.
"I've been told I hate myself. I've been called an Uncle Tom. I've been told I'm a spook at the door," said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government.

"Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said.

Johnson and other black conservatives say they were drawn to the tea party movement because of what they consider its commonsense fiscal values of controlled spending, less taxes and smaller government. The fact that they're black—or that most tea partyers are white—should have nothing to do with it, they say.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | April 6, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse


THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS THE PARTY OF RACISM.

THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS THE PARTY THAT HAS KEPT THE BLACK PEOPLE ON THE PLANTATION.

KEEP VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRATS BLACK PEOPLE AND KEEP YOURSELF ENSLAVED.


ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - They've been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement—and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president.
"I've been told I hate myself. I've been called an Uncle Tom. I've been told I'm a spook at the door," said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government.

"Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said.

Johnson and other black conservatives say they were drawn to the tea party movement because of what they consider its commonsense fiscal values of controlled spending, less taxes and smaller government. The fact that they're black—or that most tea partyers are white—should have nothing to do with it, they say.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | April 6, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

The KKK is the Confederacy, period. We are not putting up with this "Glorious Old Southern Heritage" revisionist history.

If you want to honor the Confederacy, go cheer at a Klan rally.

Posted by: leftcoaster | April 6, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Great idea. Whats next for Virginia? How about Nazi appreciation month?

Posted by: marcnyden | April 6, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Goodness, and we wonder why America is going to heck in a hand basket. From the postings on here I can tell we have either a very ignorant population on our history. The Civil War was fought on the issue of States Rights not slavery.

As far as slavery goes, the slave trade was started in Europe, migrated to America and still continues to this day in many parts of the world. America is not the only country that used or had slaves.

Moreover, there is a great misconception about the North during the Civil War. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the states that had broke away from the nation, i.e., The Cofederate States. It did little to free the slaves owned by people in the North. It's whole purpose was to incite civil unrest and hopefully bring a quicker resolution to the war.

Last but not least the slave trade started on the continent of Africa. It was a cultural offshoot of tribal warfare and is still practiced in Africa even now. What kills me is that African Americans want to point fingers solely at Caucasians for the slave trade when their own people are the ones that sold them into slavery. Study your history and get your facts straight before you post.

Posted by: michael_carmack0946 | April 6, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I love it. What do you mean states rights? The right to kill and torture black people? What about peoples' rights? McDonnell is either a coward, a racist or both. the confederacy should not be celebrated. what is there to celebrate? a bunch of rich people tricked a bunch of rednecks into fighting for them. sounds familiar.
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What a FOOL!! Blacks are more racist than Whites, and violently so!! Your man Odumbo's own preacher screamed "God DAMN [White] America!!" for a dozen years, and it looke like he listened VERY well!! Fool!

Posted by: tjhall1 | April 6, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Now, if only Mr. McDonnell and his Attorney General would stop fighting the Civil War!

Posted by: commentator2 | April 6, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I support what VA has Done Good Job ..even if they had not acted so Every time a "Taps" is played The South is Honored.

The Origin of "Taps"

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Posted by: WindSongNauck | April 6, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

A quick google search would have shown that story to be apocryphal. "Taps" was composed by Union Brigadier General Daniel Butterfield, and was originally used as a "lights out" signal. Other names for the tune are "Butterfield's Lullaby" and "Day is Done". It only gained it's association with funerals later...

Posted by: thekohler | April 6, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Some things change and some things "racism" remain the same in America. That's why we continue to have the great divide in America's unemployments between blacks and whites even today. Anyone who disagrees is living in GOP Wonderland, wake up.

Posted by: Vonnie932 | April 6, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

The USA is still a benefactor of slave labor. Do a little research on where most of the stuff you own was made. I'm sure you'll find a long list of third world countries.

As for McDonnell, the other guy was not much of a candidate either. His main talking point, and I listened to him talk a lot, was "I was endorsed by the Washington Post". Sorry bud, you're going to need more than that.

In a country where most kids probably couldn't name all 44 presidents, you'd think more people would be more supportive of a "history month". Slavery was a big issue, but it wasn't the only issue. Don't take the pre-chewed, party approved, quick history snapshot presented to you. Look into it yourself and draw some of your own conclusions.... we all might actually learn something.

Posted by: robrice311 | April 6, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

The only reason to have a special Observance for something is to educate people about it. As for a Confederate history month, you do not need it. From the time you start school until the time you graduate college they teach it to you.Every speical observance we have is to teach what the schools do not.

Posted by: jaydeb92 | April 6, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"People get over your self righteousness. Whats wrong with observing a huge part of american heritage. For the most part, most children today know nothing about our country's history...."Posted by: wildcat8360 | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM

wildcat8360,
Teach the children how a group of people were enslaved, their woman raped, men hang, mutilated and murdered. Teach how their Families were seperated (how else would slavery work). Teach about the Rosewood massacre. Shall I go on? I agree with you when you said "For the most part, most children today know nothing about our country's history" Hmmmm. On second thought lets not tell them everything.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if VA is planning on *hiring slaves* for the month?

Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | April 6, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I guess McDonnell hates Abraham Lincoln almost as much as he hates Barrack Obama. It would be nice if he could at least have respect for one of them!

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Another bozo brother of yours. Joe Wilson (you lie) is a son of the confederate. He jumping for joy about now.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Racism alive and well in America.

Posted by: Vonnie932 | April 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if VA is planning on *hiring slaves*?

Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | April 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

You mean this is serious? I thought this was a headline from The Onion. Why would a State dedicate a month to losing and remind everyone? This is like Washington DC dedicating a Baseball Month. Or perhaps this demonstrates the Governor's acute sense of irony -- he commemorates a war that began with Nullification at the same time that he begins a lawsuit against healthcare reform that is based upon Nullification. Maybe we misunderestimate the Governor's subtle wit?

Posted by: RRMD | April 6, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

YEEEHAWWW! grinning and a getting.

Old Mcdonnell had a farm. Its called the Governors State House. Rednecks galore I tell you.Decent friend to all the Teabaggers, hatemongers and all you other folks who dig this celebration of such a racist organization.

I would rather see my state dry up like a apple in the blazing sun before any tourist plucks any dime in our state this summer.

Posted by: llewis40 | April 6, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

O.K. here's one for the people screaming about white's owning slaves. How about the Free Blacks that owned slaves themselves. Slavery is wrong but that's not the issue here. People are seeking a redress from a segment of society that participated in slavery, i.e. caucasians. Blacks also owned slaves and it was their own people, i.e. Africans who prevailed in tribal warfare that sold them into slavery many times. Get the facts straight.

Posted by: michael_carmack0946 | April 6, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Sic semper tyrannis

Posted by: Silverking1776 | April 6, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand what the big deal is...We have Black History Month because that is a big part of U.S. history. Isn't the Civil War and the Confederacy a big part of U.S. history too? Just saying...

Posted by: lauralynn518 | April 6, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Virginia also used to have eugenics laws with forced sterilizations. I believe the dean of medicine at UVa in the 1920's or 30's was a eugenicist. Maybe we can "honor" that history, too. Maybe even drag states' rights into it. Gosh, wouldn't that be great.

Posted by: PhilV1 | April 6, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Next, McDonnell will focus on some real "states rights" issues that are of fundamental importance to the "Old Dominion." Going after gays, getting the teaching of evolution out of the schools, and of course, making sure that everyone knows life begins as soon as sperm is created. Moving Virginia forward into the 21st Century, way to go Governor!

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 6, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

If you want to educate yourselves on the Civil War and what it was TRULY fought over this is a great read, "The South Was Right," by author James Kennedy.

Here is a review by a person who calls himself a "Yankee" in his review. Here is what he said about the book.

..Born and bred in upstate NY. I am also civil war buff. This book is extremely important, for the fact of the matter is that MOST of the history that is taught today is WRONG. Not wrong in the general outcomes/ what happened sort of way, but wrong in explaining the TRUE motivations of the involved parties, as well as glossing over less-than savory events and dirty little secrets. The American Civil War is one of the most misunderstood events in our nation's history, and most of the misunderstanding is from Americans themselves! What we are taught about the Civil War here in the U.S. does not accurately explain what really happened (and don't even get me started on how we turn normal men into unstained 'heroes'). This book gets 5 stars for its fresh approach (how many more volumes of standard Civil War history can we stomach? There are already tens of thousands!) and because it raises questions on what you thought you "knew" about the Civil War.
Let me make it clear that this book does not defend or make a case for slavery. The authors concede right off the bat that slavery was disgusting. What the authors DO defend is the motivations of the vast majority of Southerners (and it isn't to uphold slavery), and what the authors attack is the North's (and more specifically, Lincoln's) motivations (and it isn't to free their fellow man). While I don't agree with about half of their observations, I ABSOLUTELY concur with their conclusions about Lincoln. Yes, he was a great man, but he was NOT the man we have been taught to believe he was. If nothing else, reading this book will give you a fresh take on an event that we still feel the repercussions from almost 150 years later. This book is a must read for anyone interested in The American Civil War. Read it for yourself and then decide whose version of history sounds correct.

Posted by: michael_carmack0946 | April 6, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

For you Yankees or transplants or a better word carpetbagger who have just move to DC, Virginia is a southern state with southern history and plenty of southern people. Do you know blacks that fought in the Civil War for the Union and the Confederate militaries. Confederate history is very important to understand America histrory, yes the story of blacks that fought in the Confederate army might be told and many more stories.

Posted by: nativeva1 | April 6, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

If you have ever heard of the civil war you are racist............................................ That is all.............................................................

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I've lived most of my life in Virginia. Was born elsewhere only because my father was in the Navy. My family's been in Virginia for generations. My great-great-grandfather fought in the Fourth Regiment with Stonewall Jackson from Manassas to Port Republic, when he was knocked out of the war.

And you know what? This is a disgrace. The proclamation at the end makes a lame attempt to attract tourism. But this obviously isn't about tourism. In fact, fawning over the Confederacy will likely turn away tourists. Remember the boycott of South Carolina? Is that what we want for Virginia? Call it Civil War History Month, or something. But Confederate History Month? Why not British History Month? We can have a Banastre Tarleton Day.

Instead, this is about revising history and excusing an unjust and doomed cause.

How ironic that a member of the self-styled "Party of Lincoln" would do something like this.

Posted by: DEFPOTEC1 | April 6, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Whether you like it or not, Confederate history is the history of many of us and we're as entitled to our own as is everyone else. I believe that slavery was wrong, as did my family, and most people didn't have them. Most of us did, however, have ancestors who fought and died for our region of the country. I realize most people who don't come from the South don't understand and I don't really care, but the War Between the States was about a lot more than slavery.

Posted by: Lilycat11 | April 6, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

ave youah Confederate money, boys, the Saouth will rahse again . . .

Posted by: chuck8 | April 6, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Must agree. McDonnell is only rewarding a bunch of treasonists from the past. Taking up arms against the Federal government was treason indeed. The victors have been magnanimous to the losers in the War Between the States to look over the fact of treason to celebrate their heroism.

Virginia is slapping everyone in the face these days.

1. Gay people, of which I am not a member, with redundant legislation saying how much we don't respect their rights.
2. Ditto unmarried couples in general, of which I am also not a member.
3. Immigrants (not sure if that includes legal immigrants too) afraid to leave their homes in Prince William County lest they be pulled over and processed, also of which I am not a member.
4. And now the African Americans, of which I am not a member.

But you know what Dietrich Bonhoffer said, they came for everybody else and then they came for me.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | April 6, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Another bozo brother of yours. Joe Wilson (you lie) is a son of the confederate.
Wilson retired 218th Mechanized Infantry Brigade until retiring from military service as a Colonel
This bozo retired Colonel shouted "you lie" at the Commander in Chief. He has sons in the military. How are they supposed to treat their commanders? Maybe the commander in chief is for the Union and not for the confederate and thats why it was easy for wilson to do what he did

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat but I think this is great. My ancestors fought for the Confederacy and owned no slaves. As a practical matter Civil War heritage is important to Virginia tourism with all the reenactments and all the battle fields and road signs so it is right to recognize it.

Posted by: werowe1 | April 6, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I wonder when South Africa will celebrate apartheid month?

Posted by: Keesvan | April 6, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

In 1860,the southern elite convinced a bunch of ignorant rednecks to fight their battles.
In 2010, the southern elite convinced a bunch of ignorant rednecks to fight their battles.
Is there anything more sad and pitiful then your average southern idiot advancing the cause of his superiors?

Posted by: dboz1970 | April 6, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing fills me with deeper sadness than to see a Southerner apologizing for the defense we made of our inheritance."

-Jefferson Davis

Thank you Gov. McDonnell and AG Cuccinelli for setting the Old Dominion back on the right path. Virginians as well as all Southerners should be proud to wave the Rebel Flag and celebrate our many heroes including Gen. Stonewall Jackson, the Hon. Gen. R.E. Lee, and President Jefferson Davis.

The carpetbaggers from New York and the rest of the North have been fouling our beloved Virginny for too long.

The disgusting, commie Northerners in Maryland and Washington have been polluting the Northern area of our great state with their crime, and liberal bile.

The Northerners accuse us of racism when it is they that are the racist ones. Theyre the ones that give the negro preference in jobs and schools, yet in return the negro commits crimes against them.


Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and corn and taters grow.
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

There's where I labored so hard for old Massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn;
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live till I wither and decay.
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wandered,
There's where this old darkey's life will pass away.

Massa and Missis have long since gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore.
There we'll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There's where we'll meet and we'll never part no more.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!

Posted by: uva2manassas | April 6, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

This has been a great topic. The comments have been very funny!

We can see that the new Guv is working to bring social and cultural change to the great state of Virginia.

Posted by: crudblue | April 6, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

When can we get white history month? Or Asian history month? Or Mexican history month? Or Canada American month? Or Irish American month? Or German American month? Or Spanish history month? Or British American history month?....... I think you get my point by now...... white guilt ftw!!!

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

All you tools that voted for this Bozo should have known this was coming. He is the reason I will be leaving VA in the next 12 months.

Posted by: phorse | April 6, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I am not Southern. Dad was Northern and Mom was descended from Finnish immigrants in Michigan (father and grand parents).

I guess carpet bagger means you want to be close to your job in Arlington.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | April 6, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

"LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!" ///

You'd better sit down. I have to tell you that confederacy went the way of the horse and buggy. The disgrace of the confederacy is all that remains of it's legacy.

Posted by: Keesvan | April 6, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

For all of you who try to marginalize slavery, African and American History, try teaching the whole story including the parts that you like to leave out to include rape, murder, mutilations, town massacres and families enslave and divided. Then teach the confederate story.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Confederate Month aside, for those of you bagging on the south for committing treason, you need to step back and remember history. Our founding fathers were accussed of treason against what was then, the ruling government (Britain) and they are rightly hailed as patriots for doing so, by us. It's all about perspective. Had the south not seceded, Lincoln was prepared to allow slavery to carry on, at least for the time being. So in effect, it was this "treason" that led to the outcome and abolishment of slavery and to the life we know now. Granted, this is grossly simplified, but hopefully you get my point. Hypocrisy weakens credibility.

Posted by: mixedblood74 | April 6, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Just found a treasure:

http://tinyurl.com/y899j8y

This contemporary work discusses how the Righteousness of God was part of the Noble Southern Cause, viz:

The intelligence and social position of the Confederate soldiers were higher than we usually find in large bodies of troops. The private at home was often equal, and sometimes superior in social status to the officer that led him, and did not forget the claims of good breeding after he entered the army. " I am proud to say it for Confederate soldiers," said the venerable Dr. Lovick Pierce, of Georgia, " that for a long time while travelling with hundreds and thousands of them on all the railroads used for transportation, I have heard less profane language issuing from them than I have ever heard from any promiscuous crowd of travellers in all my journeyings. It is a well-earned fame, and deserves an imperishable record. Most of them seem to belong to the gentleman stock."
Said the Rev. J. M. Atkinson: " The talent, the energy, patriotism—and now, it would seem, the piety of the country is, for the most part, to be found in the army. One of the most remarkable manifestations of this time, and of the war, is the character of our armies. It is unlike that of any soldiers known in history. In religious fervor, in intelligent patriotism, they resemble the best troops of the English Commonwealth, when least infected with fanatical rancor and selfish ambition. But in refinement, in urbanity, in education, in simplicity of purpose, in intelligent appreciation of the questions involved and the interests at stake, and above all, in Christian sensibility, at once kindly and fervent, catholic and deep, it is incomparably superior to the best soldiers of Cromwell's army. The reciprocal feeling which binds our armies to our people, and our people to our armies, is another peculiarity of this time and this contest. Our soldiers are not foreign mercenaries, fighting for plunder or pay; not worthless adventurers, fighting for fame or power; not religious fanatics or partisan warriors, battling for a name or a man. But their hearts are still in their homes. The cherished images of their dear parents, their wives and children, are still before them. They are fighting with resolute and tenacious power, with generous and self-sacrificing valor."

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

It has become obvious that the Libertards did not receive a proper education about the War Betweeen the States (WBTS), so allow me to bring these issues to light.

1. The war was not about slavery, but economics and keeping "The Union" together.
2. That Federal Forces did invade Virginia and summarily got their butts whipped in a town not to far away, called Manassas.
3. That Arlington Natinal Cemetary, once belonged to Robert E. Lee and was seized for taxes, when the "scalawags" enacted a law requiring that the owner must pay his property taxes, in person.
4. That Robert E. Lee manumitted all if his slaves at the start of the WBTS, whereas Members of Congress and the General and Senior Officers Federal Forces kept theirs.
5. That when the Emancipation Proclamation was announced, slavery was still legal in the "Border States," like Kentucky and Indiana and continued to exist in states like Maryland and Delaware. Furthermore, New Jersey had a town in which Black people owned slaves, called the Dunkerhook community, in Bergen County. Because of events that ended slavery in New Jersey, these slaves were converted to the new title of "Apprentices for Life."
6. That President Jefferson Davis and his wife adopted a black child.

Today we learn that King Obonehead now wants to control textbooks in the colleges. any "Federal Money" spent on books, must now go under review by King Obonehead's staff.

Guess what? The professors say, "Screw you" and so do the publishers. These students now can pay cash for their books, or FAIL.

This isn't your plantation King Obonehead and yes, us natives are getting anxious for your November surprise at the ballot box. Consider it "Change."

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | April 6, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

165 years ago, the Confederates were the terrorists. Now, they get their own recognition? Glad I live in Maryland.

Posted by: Bethesdan | April 6, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Also to all of you who say "the south lost get over it" would you be saying the same thing along these lines "the american colonies lost get over it" in a british accent though.....

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

For KKK day, you'll need to ask Senator Byrd, a Democrat BTW) of West Virginia.

Posted by: hz9604 | April 6, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

What's the big deal?....all those hippies want to celebrate diversity, Southern heritage should be part of that...the issue here is that he did something that wasn't politically correct...which is part of the problem with this country...if someone speaks their mind and others don't agree, then they are "racist"....if a confederate history month is racist, why isn't black history month? or hispanic history month? let's make Christmas racist, it doesn't include jewish people, or muslims....

Posted by: wild1intx62

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The other History Months you mentioned aren't racist because they are more general. For example, black history month includes study of jazz, traditional dances, current achievement of Black Americans, etc. Granted, slavery is a part of this study, but certainly not the focus. The Confederacy contributed very little to the well-being of society as a whole, and hasn't achieved much recently. The most prominent idea from Confederate ideals is treating other people in a sub-human way. This practice is generally considered a bad thing. Your comparison of these ideals with world religions is illogical - Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are religions; The Confederacy was a political movement at best (remember that whole separation of church and state thing?).

You also equate Southern culture with Confederate culture - also very different things. Southern culture includes everything from plants, to food, to music (Bluegrass, folk, country music, etc.), and also includes Black history and culture (jazz and Blues originated in the South from Black musicians). Confederate culture does not have the breadth of Southern culture.

Finally, this wouldn't be an issue if racism weren't so apparent in the state in which this declaration was made. And I know - I live in the former Confederate capital. Racism is very much alive, although it's had to adapt to a more subtle form. More than a handful of Virginians have argued that the N word "doesn't refer to Black people; it refers to an attitude." This claim itself ignores Confederate history. Supporters of Confederate History Month seem to think you can celebrate only the good parts - you can't.

Posted by: damascuspride04 | April 6, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

You can surely tell that most of these comments are from the DC area, the Washington post? Come on, you have a terrible guilt about how you have lived your life and want to help the under advantaged get ahead any way you can. People from the north east are the scum of the earth. Don't try to force us to feel like you do. You have nothing to be proud of. Nothing!@!

Posted by: blackwater-ken | April 6, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am so happy to be born and bred a Virginian. Confederate History Month is Long overdue. This is such a very large part of our history/heritage, I'm happy to finally see it being given the chance for celebration. I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be opposed. Blacks seem to be overly sensitive to so much. Quite frankly, I've yet to understand Black History Month. But maybe this will soon open the door to White History Month. I'm hoping...

Posted by: Abster56 | April 6, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

When can we get white history month? Or Asian history month? Or Mexican history month? Or Canada American month? Or Irish American month? Or German American month? Or Spanish history month? Or British American history month?....... I think you get my point by now...... white guilt ftw!!!

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6,
2010 9:07 PM |

Kdog2752,
Why don't we do 12 months of black history and have a white history month. Lets see, we have china town. Little Italy. We could have everybody wear green for a month celebrating St. Patricks day. We have Hispanic Heritage Month. Whats the problem? Upset that this particular group (blacks celebrate a month)? After what their forefathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers and fathers have been through they should celebrate everyday!

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

More from this splendid classic:

"We regard abolitionism as an interference with the plans of Divine Providence. It has not the sign of the Lord's blessing. It is a fanaticism which puts forth no good fruit; instead of blessing, it has brought forth cursing; instead of love, hatred; instead of life, death— bitterness and sorrow and pain and infidelity and moral degeneracy follow its labors. We remember how the Apostle has taught the minister of Jesus upon this subject, saying, 'Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, heresies, disputings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness : from such withdraw thyself.' This is what we teach."
Speaking of the religious work of the South, they say:
"The Christians of the South, we claim, are pious, intelligent, and liberal. Their pastoral and missionary work have claims of peculiar interest. There are hundreds of thousands here, both white and colored, who are not strangers to the blood that bought them. We rejoice that the great Head of the Church has not despised us. We desire as much as in us lietli to live peaceably with all men, and though reviled, to revile not again.

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing fills me with deeper sadness than to see a Southerner apologizing for the defense we made of our inheritance."

-Jefferson Davis

Thank you Gov. McDonnell and AG Cuccinelli for setting the Old Dominion back on the right path. Virginians as well as all Southerners should be proud to wave the Rebel Flag and celebrate our many heroes including Gen. Stonewall Jackson, the Hon. Gen. R.E. Lee, and President Jefferson Davis.

The carpetbaggers from New York and the rest of the North have been fouling our beloved Virginny for too long.

The disgusting, commie Northerners in Maryland and Washington have been polluting the Northern area of our great state with their crime, and liberal bile.

The Northerners accuse us of racism when it is they that are the racist ones. Theyre the ones that give the negro preference in jobs and schools, yet in return the negro commits crimes against them.


Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and corn and taters grow.
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

There's where I labored so hard for old Massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn;
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live till I wither and decay.
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wandered,
There's where this old darkey's life will pass away.

Massa and Missis have long since gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore.
There we'll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There's where we'll meet and we'll never part no more.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!

Posted by: uva2manassas | April 6, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Next thing you know those fools are going to want to repeal the 13th Amendment too. With all this talk about seccession, how about everyone south of Woodbridge and west of Dulles just leave and form their own state? With the Dulles Corridor and wealthy suburbs in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax, we in NOVA are the economic engine of the state. All our tax dollars are being used to support gun toating hicks downstate, and what do we get? Bad Roads. Maybe southern Virginians should be like their treasonous ancestors and re-form the Confederate States of America.

Posted by: arlingtonliberal | April 6, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing fills me with deeper sadness than to see a Southerner apologizing for the defense we made of our inheritance."

-Jefferson Davis

Thank you Gov. McDonnell and AG Cuccinelli for setting the Old Dominion back on the right path. Virginians as well as all Southerners should be proud to wave the Rebel Flag and celebrate our many heroes including Gen. Stonewall Jackson, the Hon. Gen. R.E. Lee, and President Jefferson Davis.

The carpetbaggers from New York and the rest of the North have been fouling our beloved Virginny for too long.

The disgusting, commie Northerners in Maryland and Washington have been polluting the Northern area of our great state with their crime, and liberal bile.

The Northerners accuse us of racism when it is they that are the racist ones. Theyre the ones that give the negro preference in jobs and schools, yet in return the negro commits crimes against them.


Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and corn and taters grow.
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

There's where I labored so hard for old Massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn;
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live till I wither and decay.
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wandered,
There's where this old darkey's life will pass away.

Massa and Missis have long since gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore.
There we'll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There's where we'll meet and we'll never part no more.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!

Posted by: uva2manassas | April 6, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing fills me with deeper sadness than to see a Southerner apologizing for the defense we made of our inheritance."

-Jefferson Davis

Thank you Gov. McDonnell and AG Cuccinelli for setting the Old Dominion back on the right path. Virginians as well as all Southerners should be proud to wave the Rebel Flag and celebrate our many heroes including Gen. Stonewall Jackson, the Hon. Gen. R.E. Lee, and President Jefferson Davis.

The carpetbaggers from New York and the rest of the North have been fouling our beloved Virginny for too long.

The disgusting, commie Northerners in Maryland and Washington have been polluting the Northern area of our great state with their crime, and liberal bile.

The Northerners accuse us of racism when it is they that are the racist ones. Theyre the ones that give the negro preference in jobs and schools, yet in return the negro commits crimes against them.


Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and corn and taters grow.
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

There's where I labored so hard for old Massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn;
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live till I wither and decay.
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wandered,
There's where this old darkey's life will pass away.

Massa and Missis have long since gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore.
There we'll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There's where we'll meet and we'll never part no more.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!

Posted by: uva2manassas | April 6, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Years ago we experienced similar abuse from our governor in Arizona regarding recognition of Martin Luther King. It was remedied through a national boycott. We need to do the same thing in Virginia.

Posted by: roescritor | April 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing fills me with deeper sadness than to see a Southerner apologizing for the defense we made of our inheritance."

-Jefferson Davis

Thank you Gov. McDonnell and AG Cuccinelli for setting the Old Dominion back on the right path. Virginians as well as all Southerners should be proud to wave the Rebel Flag and celebrate our many heroes including Gen. Stonewall Jackson, the Hon. Gen. R.E. Lee, and President Jefferson Davis.

The carpetbaggers from New York and the rest of the North have been fouling our beloved Virginny for too long.

The disgusting, commie Northerners in Maryland and Washington have been polluting the Northern area of our great state with their crime, and liberal bile.

The Northerners accuse us of racism when it is they that are the racist ones. Theyre the ones that give the negro preference in jobs and schools, yet in return the negro commits crimes against them.


Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and corn and taters grow.
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

There's where I labored so hard for old Massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn;
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live till I wither and decay.
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wandered,
There's where this old darkey's life will pass away.

Massa and Missis have long since gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore.
There we'll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There's where we'll meet and we'll never part no more.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!

Posted by: uva2manassas | April 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing fills me with deeper sadness than to see a Southerner apologizing for the defense we made of our inheritance."

-Jefferson Davis

Thank you Gov. McDonnell and AG Cuccinelli for setting the Old Dominion back on the right path. Virginians as well as all Southerners should be proud to wave the Rebel Flag and celebrate our many heroes including Gen. Stonewall Jackson, the Hon. Gen. R.E. Lee, and President Jefferson Davis.

The carpetbaggers from New York and the rest of the North have been fouling our beloved Virginny for too long.

The disgusting, commie Northerners in Maryland and Washington have been polluting the Northern area of our great state with their crime, and liberal bile.

The Northerners accuse us of racism when it is they that are the racist ones. Theyre the ones that give the negro preference in jobs and schools, yet in return the negro commits crimes against them.


Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and corn and taters grow.
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

There's where I labored so hard for old Massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn;
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live till I wither and decay.
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wandered,
There's where this old darkey's life will pass away.

Massa and Missis have long since gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore.
There we'll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There's where we'll meet and we'll never part no more.

Carry me back to old Virginny.
There's where the cotton and the corn and taters grow;
There's where the birds warble sweet in the spring-time.
There's where this old darkey's heart am long'd to go.

LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!

Posted by: uva2manassas | April 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

You can surely tell that most of these comments are from the DC area, the Washington post? Come on, you have a terrible guilt about how you have lived your life and want to help the under advantaged get ahead any way you can. People from the north east are the scum of the earth. Don't try to force us to feel like you do. You have nothing to be proud of. Nothing!@!

Posted by: blackwater-ken | April 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Two more Fox News audience members were arrested today for making death threats.

One against a US Senator, another against an abortion clinic.

The threats and intimidation continue from the Right. They can't win on fact, they can't win on reason and they won't win by violence.

Posted by: Richard18 | April 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Two more Fox News audience members were arrested today for making death threats.

One against a US Senator, another against an abortion clinic.

The threats and intimidation continue from the Right. They can't win on fact, they can't win on reason and they won't win by violence.

Posted by: Richard18 | April 6, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Agree with damascuspride04 anyone who wants to point out "equality" then should look up the word "equality" then get back to the rest of the world with they're findings...

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am so happy to be born and bred a Virginian. Confederate History Month is Long overdue. This is such a very large part of our history/heritage, I'm happy to finally see it being given the chance for celebration. I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be opposed. Blacks seem to be overly sensitive to so much. Quite frankly, I've yet to understand Black History Month. But maybe this will soon open the door to White History Month. I'm hoping...

Posted by: Abster56 | April 6, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

New License Plate Needed: Virginia is for Racists.

Posted by: myhonestopinion | April 6, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am so happy to be born and bred a Virginian. Confederate History Month is Long overdue. This is such a very large part of our history/heritage, I'm happy to finally see it being given the chance for celebration. I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be opposed. Blacks seem to be overly sensitive to so much. Quite frankly, I've yet to understand Black History Month. But maybe this will soon open the door to White History Month. I'm hoping...

Posted by: Abster56 | April 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Two more Fox News audience members were arrested today for making death threats. One against a US Senator, another against an abortion clinic.

The threats and intimidation continue from the Right. They can't win on fact, they can't win on reason and they won't win by violence.

Posted by: Richard18 | April 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

The slave owner enjoyed more wealth than they could produce with their own hard work because they could successfully intimidate a lot of people into giving them their productivity for free and prevent them from rising up and striking back. I wonder why.

It didn't make it right.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | April 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

More from this splendid classic:

"We regard abolitionism as an interference with the plans of Divine Providence. It has not the sign of the Lord's blessing. It is a fanaticism which puts forth no good fruit; instead of blessing, it has brought forth cursing; instead of love, hatred; instead of life, death— bitterness and sorrow and pain and infidelity and moral degeneracy follow its labors. We remember how the Apostle has taught the minister of Jesus upon this subject, saying, 'Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, heresies, disputings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness : from such withdraw thyself.' This is what we teach."
Speaking of the religious work of the South, they say:
"The Christians of the South, we claim, are pious, intelligent, and liberal. Their pastoral and missionary work have claims of peculiar interest. There are hundreds of thousands here, both white and colored, who are not strangers to the blood that bought them. We rejoice that the great Head of the Church has not despised us. We desire as much as in us lietli to live peaceably with all men, and though reviled, to revile not again.

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

The Confederate era was and is a vital part of Virginia's history. Virginia's children need to know more than that "there was a Civil War/War of Northern Aggression" the South lost, the slaves were freed and now everything is hunky-dory. Confederate soldiers were also American soldiers; their bravery and sacrifice deserves to be remembered. Virginia's military leaders are still well covered in the military history and leadership courses of West Point. The the bravery and sacrifice of the Virginians on the home front (the very young, the very old and almost all female) are the stuff of legend. The heroism, industry and leadership of all these Virginians deserves study and yes, celebration.

Posted by: waltonr1 | April 6, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

All you guilty white voters. Just wait for the fall elections to see who backs you up!!0

Posted by: blackwater-ken | April 6, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
Since most everyone here seems to want to argue over slavery, let's have a few numbers...
In 1860 there were almost 27 million white people in this country.385 thousand people (not just white) owned slaves.
In 1860 Louisiana 6 black people owned black slaves. In Charleston SC 125 black people owned slaves. In North Carolina 69 black people owned slaves. But somehow this was only a white supremacy issue?
And another tidbit...
In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery, whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins.
ven after Europeans began transporting black slaves to America, most trade was just that: "trade". In most instances, the Europeans did not need to use any force to get those slaves. The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans (most of them before 1776, when the USA wasn't yet born) and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
Maybe it's time we all took a refresher course, and I for one am pleased to see a governor who does honor all sides of the story. Show me one black history month flyer that actually tells the truth of how the slaves arrived in the Americas.

Posted by: 3c1t | April 6, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Years ago we experienced similar abuse from our governor in Arizona regarding recognition of Martin Luther King. It was remedied through a national boycott. We need to do the same thing in Virginia.

Posted by: roescritor | April 6, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

"Treason is merely a matter of dates"

Posted by: Silverking1776 | April 6, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Years ago we experienced similar abuse from our governor in Arizona regarding recognition of Martin Luther King. It was remedied through a national boycott. We need to do the same thing in Virginia.

Posted by: roescritor | April 6, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Time somebody sign a proclamtion proudly and with some spine, press conference included, with bands playing, amercan flags waving, UNION MONTH!

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

@damascuspride04 you are completly and totaly wrong sorry...

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
Since most everyone here seems to want to argue over slavery, let's have a few numbers...
In 1860 there were almost 27 million white people in this country.385 thousand people (not just white) owned slaves.
In 1860 Louisiana 6 black people owned black slaves. In Charleston SC 125 black people owned slaves. In North Carolina 69 black people owned slaves. But somehow this was only a white supremacy issue?
And another tidbit...
In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery, whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins.
ven after Europeans began transporting black slaves to America, most trade was just that: "trade". In most instances, the Europeans did not need to use any force to get those slaves. The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans (most of them before 1776, when the USA wasn't yet born) and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
Maybe it's time we all took a refresher course, and I for one am pleased to see a governor who does honor all sides of the story. Show me one black history month flyer that actually tells the truth of how the slaves arrived in the Americas.

Posted by: 3c1t | April 6, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

You have black history month, Martin L. King day and Kawanza why not Confederate month. It's always OK if it's a black issue but get a white issue or day and everybody cries rape. Slavery has been dead for 150 years GET OVER IT. We don't owe anyone living today anything. If you're still pimp'n your sister and looking for a hand out on welfare move to another state. During the Confereracy we didn't have drive by shootings and rap music.It couldn't be all bad could it.

Posted by: MrBinx | April 6, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am so happy to be born and bred a Virginian. Confederate History Month is Long overdue. This is such a very large part of our history/heritage, I'm happy to finally see it being given the chance for celebration. I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be opposed. Blacks seem to be overly sensitive to so much. Quite frankly, I've yet to understand Black History Month. But maybe this will soon open the door to White History Month. I'm hoping...

Posted by: Abster56 | April 6, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

@damascuspride04 you are completly and totally wrong sorry...

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

To mixedblood24: Although the founding fathers revolted against the
ruling government (Britain), this is not the same as Virginia seceding. Virginia voluntarily agreed to be part of the union when it ratified the U.S. Constitution. In fact, James Madison, the principal author of the Constitution was a Virginian. The constitution did not allow for secession. Similarly, Robert E. Lee also pledged never to betray his country when he became a West Point cadet. Although there were brave men who died on the Confederate side, there was nothing honorable in what the Confederacy stood for. Their belief in states right should have been fought in Congress, not the battlefield.

Posted by: mmnguyen25 | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The slave owner enjoyed more wealth than they could produce with their own hard work because they could successfully intimidate a lot of people into giving them their productivity for free and prevent them from rising up and striking back. I wonder why.

It didn't make it right.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

@damascuspride04 you are completly and totally wrong sorry...

Posted by: Kdog2752 | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

More from this splendid classic:

"We regard abolitionism as an interference with the plans of Divine Providence. It has not the sign of the Lord's blessing. It is a fanaticism which puts forth no good fruit; instead of blessing, it has brought forth cursing; instead of love, hatred; instead of life, death— bitterness and sorrow and pain and infidelity and moral degeneracy follow its labors. We remember how the Apostle has taught the minister of Jesus upon this subject, saying, 'Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, heresies, disputings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness : from such withdraw thyself.' This is what we teach."
Speaking of the religious work of the South, they say:
"The Christians of the South, we claim, are pious, intelligent, and liberal. Their pastoral and missionary work have claims of peculiar interest. There are hundreds of thousands here, both white and colored, who are not strangers to the blood that bought them. We rejoice that the great Head of the Church has not despised us. We desire as much as in us lietli to live peaceably with all men, and though reviled, to revile not again.

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The Confederate era was and is a vital part of Virginia's history. Virginia's children need to know more than that "there was a Civil War/War of Northern Aggression" the South lost, the slaves were freed and now everything is hunky-dory. Confederate soldiers were also American soldiers; their bravery and sacrifice deserves to be remembered. Virginia's military leaders are still well covered in the military history and leadership courses of West Point. The bravery and sacrifice of the Virginians on the home front (the very young, the very old and most all females) are the stuff of legend. The heroism, industry and leadership of all these Virginians deserves study and yes, celebration.

Posted by: waltonr1 | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The slave owner enjoyed more wealth than they could produce with their own hard work because they could successfully intimidate a lot of people into giving them their productivity for free and prevent them from rising up and striking back. I wonder why.

It didn't make it right.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

One hundred forty seven years ago my great-great grandfather, a farmer and slave owner from Georgia, died in Richmond from pneumonia following his escape from a Northern prisoner of war prison.

The cause for which he died is one I despise.They were wrong, their cause was wrong, and defeat was necessary.

No proclamation by a governor can rewrite the shame of the Cause or the strange fact that ordinary men were willing to die to preserve their peculiar institution. Such was not its purpose. Rather this proclamation is a signal that racism still lives in our land.

This is the kind of politician the Republican Party of today cultivates.

Posted by: warecornell | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

In fairness, we should declare August to be Nat Turner's Rebellion Month, because that is part of our history too. Celebrate one tragedy, celebrate them all.

Posted by: dricks | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
Since most everyone here seems to want to argue over slavery, let's have a few numbers...
In 1860 there were almost 27 million white people in this country.385 thousand people (not just white) owned slaves.
In 1860 Louisiana 6 black people owned black slaves. In Charleston SC 125 black people owned slaves. In North Carolina 69 black people owned slaves. But somehow this was only a white supremacy issue?
And another tidbit...
In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery, whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins.
ven after Europeans began transporting black slaves to America, most trade was just that: "trade". In most instances, the Europeans did not need to use any force to get those slaves. The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans (most of them before 1776, when the USA wasn't yet born) and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
Maybe it's time we all took a refresher course, and I for one am pleased to see a governor who does honor all sides of the story. Show me one black history month flyer that actually tells the truth of how the slaves arrived in the Americas.

Posted by: 3c1t | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

What next in my incredibly backwards state under McConfederate.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | April 6, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

What next in my incredibly backwards state under McConfederate.

Posted by: seaduck2001 | April 6, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

In fairness, we should declare August to be Nat Turner's Rebellion Month, because that is part of our history too. Celebrate one tragedy, celebrate them all.

Posted by: dricks | April 6, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
Since most everyone here seems to want to argue over slavery, let's have a few numbers...
In 1860 there were almost 27 million white people in this country.385 thousand people (not just white) owned slaves.
In 1860 Louisiana 6 black people owned black slaves. In Charleston SC 125 black people owned slaves. In North Carolina 69 black people owned slaves. But somehow this was only a white supremacy issue?
And another tidbit...
In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery, whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins.
ven after Europeans began transporting black slaves to America, most trade was just that: "trade". In most instances, the Europeans did not need to use any force to get those slaves. The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans (most of them before 1776, when the USA wasn't yet born) and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
Maybe it's time we all took a refresher course, and I for one am pleased to see a governor who does honor all sides of the story. Show me one black history month flyer that actually tells the truth of how the slaves arrived in the Americas.

Posted by: 3c1t | April 6, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

If you don't like it, move back to New Joisey. If Yankees are so superior, why do they keep moving south? New England is a beautiful place to live. Go back to Taxachussetts and leave us alone.

Posted by: win_harrington | April 6, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

This is so sad to see. That's the difference between the New Virginia, the Virginia of the Dulles Corridor, Arlington, Fairfax, and Alexandria, and the backwards south. In my Virginia, we host people from all over the world searching for the American dream. We have some of the best schools in the nation, the highest income, and we're a center for technological innovation and diversity. The Virginia that McDonough and his cronies want to take us back to is old Virginia... the the bigotted, intolerant state that - just a few decades ago- closed the Prince William School to prevent black kids from getting an education, that forbid blacks and whites from getting married.
Maybe it's time for McDonnough to follow the treasonous Confederate terrorists and seccede - he can take Lynchburg, all the guns he wants, and Pat Robertson. We'll take the DC suburbs, the Reston-Dulles Corridor, and the cultural diversity and innovation of the 21st century.

Posted by: arlingtonliberal | April 6, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

The Confederate era is a vital part of Virginia's history. Virginia's children need to know more than that "there was a Civil War/War of Northern Aggression" the South lost, the slaves were freed and now everything is hunky-dory. Confederate soldiers were also American soldiers; their bravery and sacrifice deserves to be remembered. Virginia's military leaders are still well covered in the military history and leadership courses of West Point. The bravery and sacrifice of the Virginians on the home front (the very young, the very old and most all females) are the stuff of legend. The heroism, industry and leadership of all these Virginians deserves study and yes, celebration.

Posted by: waltonr1 | April 6, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am so happy to be born and bred a Virginian. Confederate History Month is Long overdue. This is such a very large part of our history/heritage, I'm happy to finally see it being given the chance for celebration. I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be opposed. Blacks seem to be overly sensitive to so much. Quite frankly, I've yet to understand Black History Month. But maybe this will soon open the door to White History Month. I'm hoping...

Posted by: Abster56 | April 6, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

One hundred forty seven years ago my great-great grandfather, a farmer and slave owner from Georgia, died in Richmond from pneumonia following his escape from a Northern prisoner of war prison.

The cause for which he died is one I despise.They were wrong, their cause was wrong, and defeat was necessary.

No proclamation by a governor can rewrite the shame of the Cause or the strange fact that ordinary men were willing to die to preserve their peculiar institution. Such was not its purpose. Rather this proclamation is a signal that racism still lives in our land.

This is the kind of politician the Republican Party of today cultivates.

Posted by: warecornell | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

If you don't like it, move back to New Joisey. If Yankees are so superior, why do they keep moving south? New England is a beautiful place to live. Go back to Taxachussetts and leave us alone.

Posted by: win_harrington | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

What's the big deal?....all those hippies want to celebrate diversity, Southern heritage should be part of that...the issue here is that he did something that wasn't politically correct...which is part of the problem with this country...if someone speaks their mind and others don't agree, then they are "racist"....if a confederate history month is racist, why isn't black history month? or hispanic history month? let's make Christmas racist, it doesn't include jewish people, or muslims....

Posted by: wild1intx62

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The other History Months you mentioned aren't racist because they are more general. For example, black history month includes study of jazz, traditional dances, current achievement of Black Americans, etc. Granted, slavery is a part of this study, but certainly not the focus. The Confederacy contributed very little to the well-being of society as a whole, and hasn't achieved much recently. The most prominent idea from Confederate ideals is treating other people in a sub-human way. This practice is generally considered a bad thing. Your comparison of these ideals with world religions is illogical - Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are religions; The Confederacy was a political movement at best (remember that whole separation of church and state thing?).

You also equate Southern culture with Confederate culture - also very different things. Southern culture includes everything from plants, to food, to music (Bluegrass, folk, country music, etc.), and also includes Black history and culture (jazz and Blues originated in the South from Black musicians). Confederate culture does not have the breadth of Southern culture.

Finally, this wouldn't be an issue if racism weren't so apparent in the state in which this declaration was made. And I know - I live in the former Confederate capital. Racism is very much alive, although it's had to adapt to a more subtle form. More than a handful of Virginians have argued that the N word "doesn't refer to Black people; it refers to an attitude." This claim itself ignores Confederate history. Supporters of Confederate History Month seem to think you can celebrate only the good parts - you can't.

Posted by: damascuspride04 | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

More from this splendid classic:

"We regard abolitionism as an interference with the plans of Divine Providence. It has not the sign of the Lord's blessing. It is a fanaticism which puts forth no good fruit; instead of blessing, it has brought forth cursing; instead of love, hatred; instead of life, death— bitterness and sorrow and pain and infidelity and moral degeneracy follow its labors. We remember how the Apostle has taught the minister of Jesus upon this subject, saying, 'Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, heresies, disputings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness : from such withdraw thyself.' This is what we teach."
Speaking of the religious work of the South, they say:
"The Christians of the South, we claim, are pious, intelligent, and liberal. Their pastoral and missionary work have claims of peculiar interest. There are hundreds of thousands here, both white and colored, who are not strangers to the blood that bought them. We rejoice that the great Head of the Church has not despised us. We desire as much as in us lietli to live peaceably with all men, and though reviled, to revile not again.

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

In fairness, we should declare August to be Nat Turner's Rebellion Month, because that is part of our history too. Celebrate one tragedy, celebrate them all.

Posted by: dricks | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

More from this splendid classic:

"We regard abolitionism as an interference with the plans of Divine Providence. It has not the sign of the Lord's blessing. It is a fanaticism which puts forth no good fruit; instead of blessing, it has brought forth cursing; instead of love, hatred; instead of life, death— bitterness and sorrow and pain and infidelity and moral degeneracy follow its labors. We remember how the Apostle has taught the minister of Jesus upon this subject, saying, 'Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, heresies, disputings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness : from such withdraw thyself.' This is what we teach."
Speaking of the religious work of the South, they say:
"The Christians of the South, we claim, are pious, intelligent, and liberal. Their pastoral and missionary work have claims of peculiar interest. There are hundreds of thousands here, both white and colored, who are not strangers to the blood that bought them. We rejoice that the great Head of the Church has not despised us. We desire as much as in us lietli to live peaceably with all men, and though reviled, to revile not again.

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I apologize for the numerous comments. something seems to be wrong with the internet page. When i try to submit my comment it just sits there. Liberals and their 'technology'.

Posted by: uva2manassas | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
Since most everyone here seems to want to argue over slavery, let's have a few numbers...
In 1860 there were almost 27 million white people in this country.385 thousand people (not just white) owned slaves.
In 1860 Louisiana 6 black people owned black slaves. In Charleston SC 125 black people owned slaves. In North Carolina 69 black people owned slaves. But somehow this was only a white supremacy issue?
And another tidbit...
In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery, whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins.
ven after Europeans began transporting black slaves to America, most trade was just that: "trade". In most instances, the Europeans did not need to use any force to get those slaves. The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans (most of them before 1776, when the USA wasn't yet born) and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
Maybe it's time we all took a refresher course, and I for one am pleased to see a governor who does honor all sides of the story. Show me one black history month flyer that actually tells the truth of how the slaves arrived in the Americas.

Posted by: 3c1t | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am so happy to be born and bred a Virginian. Confederate History Month is Long overdue. This is such a very large part of our history/heritage, I'm happy to finally see it being given the chance for celebration. I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be opposed. Blacks seem to be overly sensitive to so much. Quite frankly, I've yet to understand Black History Month. But maybe this will soon open the door to White History Month. I'm hoping...

Posted by: Abster56 | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am so happy to be born and bred a Virginian. Confederate History Month is Long overdue. This is such a very large part of our history/heritage, I'm happy to finally see it being given the chance for celebration. I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be opposed. Blacks seem to be overly sensitive to so much. Quite frankly, I've yet to understand Black History Month. But maybe this will soon open the door to White History Month. I'm hoping...

Posted by: Abster56 | April 6, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

"Treason is merely a matter of dates"

Posted by: Silverking1776 | April 6, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

This is why I voted for the Democratic ticket. Honoring people who chose to enslave other people is plain stupid. The "state's rights" argument is hogwash. A state protesting a federal government tax policy -- OK. A state declaring certain humans fit for slavery -- not OK.

Posted by: peter_nd | April 6, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

The Confederate era was and is a vital part of Virginia's history. Virginia's children need to know more than that "there was a Civil War/War of Northern Aggression" the South lost, the slaves were freed and now everything is hunky-dory. Confederate soldiers were also American soldiers; their bravery and sacrifice deserves to be remembered. Virginia's military leaders are still well covered in the military history and leadership courses of West Point. The the bravery and sacrifice of the Virginians on the home front (the very young, the very old and almost all female) are the stuff of legend. The heroism, industry and leadership of all these Virginians deserves study and yes, celebration.

Posted by: waltonr1 | April 6, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

For you Yankees or transplants or a better word carpetbagger who have just move to DC, Virginia is a southern state with southern history and plenty of southern people. Do you know blacks that fought in the Civil War for the Union and the Confederate militaries. Confederate history is very important to understand America histrory, yes the story of blacks that fought in the Confederate army might be told and many more stories.

Posted by: nativeva1 | April 6, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

According to Dorsey, McDonnell thought Virginians needed a month "to get people to study the issue", "to honor the sacrifice of the brave men who went out and died in battle", and "to study why they went out and did it".

It certainly sounds plausible, gentlemen. But if that is the intent, wouldn't it make more sense for Virginians be observing "Civil War History Month"?

The governor's announcement says: "It is important for all Virginians to reflect upon our Commonwealth’s shared history, to understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War, and to recognize how our history has led to our present..."

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I always thought the best reason to visit Civil War battle sites is to reflect the tragic loss of life that occurred on both sides and to understand how important it is to nurture the concept of a single nation with a common purpose so that history never repeats itself.

Posted by: exco | April 6, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

this will bust the liberals balls

Posted by: dagner49 | April 6, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

"People get over your self righteousness. Whats wrong with observing a huge part of american heritage. For the most part, most children today know nothing about our country's history...."Posted by: wildcat8360 | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM

wildcat8360,
Teach the children how a group of people were enslaved, their woman raped, men hang, mutilated and murdered. Teach how their Families were seperated (how else would slavery work). Teach about the Rosewood massacre. Shall I go on? I agree with you when you said "For the most part, most children today know nothing about our country's history" Hmmmm. On second thought lets not tell them everything.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
Since most everyone here seems to want to argue over slavery, let's have a few numbers...
In 1860 there were almost 27 million white people in this country.385 thousand people (not just white) owned slaves.
In 1860 Louisiana 6 black people owned black slaves. In Charleston SC 125 black people owned slaves. In North Carolina 69 black people owned slaves. But somehow this was only a white supremacy issue?
And another tidbit...
In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery, whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins.
ven after Europeans began transporting black slaves to America, most trade was just that: "trade". In most instances, the Europeans did not need to use any force to get those slaves. The slaves were "sold" more or less legally by their (black) owners. Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans (most of them before 1776, when the USA wasn't yet born) and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
Maybe it's time we all took a refresher course, and I for one am pleased to see a governor who does honor all sides of the story. Show me one black history month flyer that actually tells the truth of how the slaves arrived in the Americas.

Posted by: 3c1t | April 6, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

"People get over your self righteousness. Whats wrong with observing a huge part of american heritage. For the most part, most children today know nothing about our country's history...."Posted by: wildcat8360 | April 6, 2010 8:15 PM

wildcat8360,
Teach the children how a group of people were enslaved, their woman raped, men hang, mutilated and murdered. Teach how their Families were seperated (how else would slavery work). Teach about the Rosewood massacre. Shall I go on? I agree with you when you said "For the most part, most children today know nothing about our country's history" Hmmmm. On second thought lets not tell them everything.

Oh and forget about the native american story.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

The Confederate era is a vital part of Virginia's history. Virginia's children need to know more than that "there was a Civil War/War of Northern Aggression" the South lost, the slaves were freed and now everything is hunky-dory. Confederate soldiers were also American soldiers; their bravery and sacrifice deserves to be remembered. Virginia's military leaders are still well covered in the military history and leadership courses of West Point. The the bravery and sacrifice of the Virginians on the home front (the very young, the very old and almost all female) are the stuff of legend. The heroism, industry and leadership of all these Virginians deserves study and yes, celebration.

Posted by: waltonr1 | April 6, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah forget about teaching the truth about the native amercians who we call indians. and this country's history.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow - judging by these comments you'd think most people have never read a book written more than 30 years ago.

Virginia voted against secession initially. Virginia only seceded when Lincoln required they provide thousands of soldiers to march into the south and kill fellow Americans. Virginia did more than any other state to avert the war. And for that it paid the price - Virginia suffered more than any other state and was the last state to have its economy return to pre-war levels.

I for one am glad that in this age of political correctness there are still a few who are able to appreciate history without making ridiculous anachronistic moral judgements - as do (apparently) the Washington Post's readers. I guess that makes me a hillbilly.

Posted by: no_one | April 6, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah forget about teaching the truth about the native amercians (who we call indians,) and this country's history.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I particularly enjoyed the following parts:

> the war "concluded at Appomattox Courthouse" (yeah, the Confederates ADMITTED DEFEAT at the Appomattox Courthouse and had to GIVE UP SLAVES AND FARM THEIR OWN DAMN TOBACCO)

> Confederate soldiers "fought for their homes and communities and Commonwealth in a time very different than ours today" (should read "they fought [for the right to keep slaves in] their homes and communities"... and yeah, it was a different time--a time when half the country still thought enslaving other human beings was acceptable)

> it is important for us to "understand the sacrifices of the Confederate leaders, soldiers and citizens during the period of the Civil War" (yes, sacrifices they made to continue the abhorrent practice of slavery--my sympathy is limited)

> "this defining chapter in Virginia’s history should not be forgotten" (I don't WANT it to be a defining chapter in Virginia's history--I want my state to be something more than the former capital of a miscreant group of white-supremacist states)

Also, in response to claims that this proclamation is not to glorify the Confederacy but rather to encourage study: I googled "history month" to see what other movements we have deemed worthy of acknowledging and came up with (to name a few) Black, Asian Pacific American, Jewish American, LGBT, Mongolian American, Indian American, Women's, and Gay and Lesbian Pride. Tell me that these other commemorative months are not to foster a sense of solidarity and pride for these groups. Now convince me that this one is somehow different.

Posted by: tj_alexandria_2006 | April 6, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

In fairness, we should declare August to be Nat Turner's Rebellion Month, because that is part of our history too. Celebrate one tragedy, celebrate them all.

Posted by: dricks | April 6, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

The Confederacy fought to keep my forefathers enslaved and Bob McDonnel wants to celebrate that? The Limbaughs, FOX News, Hannitys'Becks et al are putting harmful things into motion within our society which unfortunately may not be stopped. This obliviousness to potential blow back by members on fringes of our society, with pentup grieveances real or imagined, is sheer folly. There is a sense in many circles that anti-Obama forces, by whatever stripe or color of shirt, are unnecessarily seeding an on coming national storm.

Posted by: october30 | April 6, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I find it extremely ironic that McDonnell is one of the 30 Gov. that were sent the get out in 3 days letter! Only this hillbilly backward barefoot in the kitchen Gov. would do something as backward and hillbillyish as this! OMG, this is too stupid to believe!

Posted by: merf-1 | April 6, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

The Confederacy fought to keep my forefathers enslaved and Bob McDonnel wants to celebrate that? The Limbaughs, FOX News, Hannitys'Becks et al are putting harmful things into motion within our society which unfortunately may not be stopped. This obliviousness to potential blow back by members on fringes of our society, with pentup grieveances real or imagined, is sheer folly. There is a sense in many circles that anti-Obama forces, by whatever stripe or color of shirt, are unnecessarily seeding an on coming national storm.

Posted by: october30 | April 6, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Gee, we should tell Germany to lighten up on those Nazi celebrators. Heck, it is just part of their history.

Posted by: peter_nd | April 6, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

The appalling ignorance displayed by many of the respondents above provides overwhelming evidence of the dismal state of American education. Virginia and the other states that seceded (or were barred from same by the traitor Lincoln)did so legally and, of course, constitutionally. Virginia has chosen to honor those who fought and died for the freedom of the Old Dominion State. Those who tell Virginia to "get over it"(like the Irish or the Scots?) or who refer to them as Nazis have engaged in an egregious form of hate speech against brave men, women and children, black and white who died protecting their homes from a rapacious invador. Most assuredly these brave Virginians should be solemnly remembered by their descendents--and by the off spring of the invaders who killed, raped, burned and looted the South--Shame on you!

Posted by: Hunter9 | April 6, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

During the Confereracy we didn't have drive by shootings and rap music.It couldn't be all bad could it.
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What's wrong with rap music, know what I'm sayin'?

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | April 6, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't know of another viable country with a strong political support to celebrate the folks who started and lost a bloody and horribly destructive civil war. Especially in a state that was so critical in creating the country to begin with.

Shame on McDonell for pandering to this drivel.

Posted by: thmas | April 6, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Ok somebody needs to sign a proclamation with national press included, bands playing, american flags waving declaring UNION MONTH!

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't know of another viable country with a strong political support to celebrate the folks who started and lost a bloody and horribly destructive civil war. Especially in a state that was so critical in creating the country to begin with.

Shame on McDonell for pandering to this drivel.

Posted by: thmas | April 6, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Ok somebody needs to sign a proclamation with national press included, bands playing, american flags waving declaring UNION MONTH!

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

LONG LIVE VIRGINIA AND THE CONFEDERACY!

Never going to happen. by 2030 Blacks, Latinos and Asians will be the majority.So this fool of a governor will never be president with stunts like this.

Posted by: Ronnie62 | April 6, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

A direct ancestor of my father was a Union soldier. Whether he did more than follow orders, I am not sure but I will check the geneaology.

Posted by: cmarshdtihqcom | April 6, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I propose a RACIST LOSER HISTORY MONTH for Virginia.

We can get uva2manassas to be the Grand Dragon. Everyone can wear robes and hoods, so that we can show the rest of America what ignorant, inbred backwater idiots we are, so they will know not to visit here, or set up business.

This was an intentional "F-Y" to everyone not on the far right, and a cheap attempt to cash in on the teabagggers' impotent rage.

Thanks Gov. McDonnell, for making Virginia look like a bunch of toothless, banjo-playing rednecks.


Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 6, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey all you non-racist northern virginians!! Come move to Maryland! SIlver Spring is awesome, Takoma Park know for its tolerance of gays and hip living in Bethesda and Chevy Chase! Affordable housing in Baltimore and some great buys in Hyattstown. We just succeeded from the South and welcome all you who don't want to "celebrate" the confederacy.

Posted by: DJMonet | April 6, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

YeeeHAW
It's all about cheap labor, that's what built the South! They started the war and the North finished it. These jerks are still fighting the Civil War! Let's honor the Guys who slammed the jets into the twin towers while were at it! Traitors are traitors.... Either we're one country or we're South and North.

Posted by: steve82 | April 6, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Years ago we experienced similar abuse from our governor in Arizona regarding recognition of Martin Luther King. It was remedied through a national boycott. We need to do the same thing in Virginia.

Posted by: roescritor | April 6, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Wilma Mankiller, the first female chief of the Cherokee tribe and one of the few women to lead an American Indian tribe, has died this morning of pancreatic cancer, the Cherokee Phoenix reports. Here's the AP version. The Washington Post version will be posted shortly.

During her 10 years as principal chief, Mankiller helped her tribe triple in size -- it's the second biggest tribe, after the Navajo Nation, in the U.S. She was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 1993 and received the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1998.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I propose a RACIST LOSER HISTORY MONTH for Virginia.

We can get uva2manassas to be the Grand Dragon. Everyone can wear robes and hoods, so that we can show the rest of America what ignorant, inbred backwater idiots we are, so they will know not to visit here, or set up business.

This was an intentional "F-Y" to everyone not on the far right, and a cheap attempt to cash in on the teabagggers' impotent rage.

Thanks Gov. McDonnell, for making Virginia look like a bunch of toothless, banjo-playing rednecks.


Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 6, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Guess what Gov. Bobby McD? I plan on declaring this September and October "The 164th Anniversary of Phil Sheridan Whipping Sesesh Ass in The Valley Remembrance Months".

Will plan on proudly flying the Sheridan cavalry guidon flag, in celebration of his final coup de grâce of that disgraceful entity, the CSA.

Posted by: swisshegemonist | April 6, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I propose a RACIST LOSER HISTORY MONTH for Virginia.

We can get uva2manassas to be the Grand Dragon. Everyone can wear robes and hoods, so that we can show the rest of America what ignorant, inbred backwater idiots we are, so they will know not to visit here, or set up business.

This was an intentional "F-Y" to everyone not on the far right, and a cheap attempt to cash in on the teabagggers' impotent rage.

Thanks Gov. McDonnell, for making Virginia look like a bunch of toothless, banjo-playing rednecks.


Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 6, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

You know, most of you are complaining that the Commonwealth of Virginia is celebrating Treason and the Slavery. The Civil War is part of History and should be learned by everyone. I am from California and when I was in school, the state started requiring us to learn about Mexico because of how many mexican-americans lived in the state. If anyone is interested, before the landowners "bought" the people off the boat, they used the native americans as slaves. But you don't hear anything about that. Also, in case any of you are interested, it was people of the same race that sold the slaves to the landowners. This is something that you will not find in todays history books. Many of you should do some research. My husband is from Virginia and very proud of his heritage. He feels that the confederate flag is not about slavery, but about the right to live as they want without any government interference. Something we are not likely to have for very much longer. I am neither a Democrat or Republican and have not kept up with the political games being played in Virginia, but people aught to do research before condeming everyone who is from Virginia.

Posted by: motormouth552000 | April 6, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

You know, most of you are complaining that the Commonwealth of Virginia is celebrating Treason and the Slavery. The Civil War is part of History and should be learned by everyone. I am from California and when I was in school, the state started requiring us to learn about Mexico because of how many mexican-americans lived in the state. If anyone is interested, before the landowners "bought" the people off the boat, they used the native americans as slaves. But you don't hear anything about that. Also, in case any of you are interested, it was people of the same race that sold the slaves to the landowners. This is something that you will not find in todays history books. Many of you should do some research. My husband is from Virginia and very proud of his heritage. He feels that the confederate flag is not about slavery, but about the right to live as they want without any government interference. Something we are not likely to have for very much longer. I am neither a Democrat or Republican and have not kept up with the political games being played in Virginia, but people aught to do research before condeming everyone who is from Virginia.

Posted by: motormouth552000 | April 6, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Wilma Mankiller, the first female chief of the Cherokee tribe and one of the few women to lead an American Indian tribe, has died this morning of pancreatic cancer, the Cherokee Phoenix reports. Here's the AP version. The Washington Post version will be posted shortly.

During her 10 years as principal chief, Mankiller helped her tribe triple in size -- it's the second biggest tribe, after the Navajo Nation, in the U.S. She was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 1993 and received the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1998.

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I am a true son of the South, with numerous familial ties to the Virginia of the Confederacy and beyond to the Revolution. It astounds me to have to say this in 2010, but folks, we have got to let the Confederacy remain dead. Regardless of what the war was about, the result or who was right or wrong. Just get over it dim wits and let it go, man alive. Why don't ya'll (Virginia) concern yourself with something worthwhile, like keeping guns off of college campuses.

Posted by: rwentz21 | April 6, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I am a true son of the South, with numerous familial ties to the Virginia of the Confederacy and beyond to the Revolution. It astounds me to have to say this in 2010, but folks, we have got to let the Confederacy remain dead. Regardless of what the war was about, the result or who was right or wrong. Just get over it dim wits and let it go, man alive. Why don't ya'll (Virginia) concern yourself with something worthwhile, like keeping guns off of college campuses.

Posted by: rwentz21 | April 6, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Wilma Mankiller, the first female chief of the Cherokee tribe and one of the few women to lead an American Indian tribe, has died this morning of pancreatic cancer, the Cherokee Phoenix reports. Here's the AP version. The Washington Post version will be posted shortly.

During her 10 years as principal chief, Mankiller helped her tribe triple in size -- it's the second biggest tribe, after the Navajo Nation, in the U.S. She was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 1993 and received the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1998.
By Patricia Sullivan | April 6, 2010; 12:38 PM ET

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6,

Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

"For you Yankees or transplants or a better word carpetbagger who have just move to DC, Virginia is a southern state with southern history and plenty of southern people. Do you know blacks that fought in the Civil War for the Union and the Confederate militaries. Confederate history is very important to understand America histrory, yes the story of blacks that fought in the Confederate army might be told and many more stories."

It's too bad the war wasn't fought using grammar, punctuation, and spelling, the South might have had a chance. Now, everyone settle down and get back to watching Fox News.

Posted by: Bethesdan | April 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Wilma Mankiller, the first female chief of the Cherokee tribe and one of the few women to lead an American Indian tribe, has died this morning of pancreatic cancer, the Cherokee Phoenix reports. Here's the AP version. The Washington Post version will be posted shortly.

During her 10 years as principal chief, Mankiller helped her tribe triple in size -- it's the second biggest tribe, after the Navajo Nation, in the U.S. She was inducted into the National Women's Hall of Fame in 1993 and received the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1998.
By Patricia Sullivan | April 6, 2010; 12:38 PM ET

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Posted by: MILLER123 | April 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

i dont want to burst everyones bubble but if you would have paid attention in history class the civil war was not about slavery....now before you jump on the here's another dumb redneck bandwagon, the civil war was due to the federal gov. over stepping its bounds and trying to rule on the affairs of the states,(sound familiar??) which goes against that little piece of paper we call the constitution.yes slavery was abolished during the same time period but it was only because they, ( the north) new they had a better chance of winning the war if they granted slaves freedom for fighting with them..now whether it was right or wrong in your mind what the south were fighting for they were still americans that died in a terrible war,whether it was on foriegn or domestic soil and should be honored,by the way the north had slaves too,it just wasnt popular news and was left out of the story.i live in the so called north but i would and will fight for my american brothers and sisters ,(white or black).the goverment is doing now what it tried to do then and im afraid it does need another wake up call,i just hope my children dont have to see it in their time.wake up america before its too late and we are divided again.this war will not be fought in a far away land but in our backyards with our children watching.....its not a pretty thought but it is what the people lived with this man is trying to honor

Posted by: rodkellough | April 6, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I think to commemorate McDonnell's proclaimed Confederate History Month, we should hold a flag burning of the stars and bars at Alexandria's Market Square, once the site of the country's second-largest slave market.

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

I guess a marble statue of Timothy McVeigh or a bronze casting of the Unabomber is next.

The Confederates were terrorists who showed their true character in the shelling of Ft. Sumter. Nowadays we'd call them Teabagger Terrorists.

Posted by: herrbrahms | April 6, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I grew up in Minnesota and I am not a racist but I believe your overreacting and history has been mistaught.
1)The Confederates were fighting for states rights not slavery.
2)If the north was winning Lincoln would not have created the Emancipation Proclamation.

Posted by: stumpjumper1 | April 6, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Any Virginian voter who read his thesis should have seen this coming a long time ago.

Posted by: jimestw | April 6, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Gov. Booby McDumbell got his hands on some new Texas history books.

So much for his good cop bad cop routine with AG Ken Kookynutty. They're both ignorant clowns.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Years ago (1970s), Univ. of Maryland, Middle Period of American History, learned the Civil War was preventable, the practice of slavery was unenconomical for the South, a dastardly practice anyway, the advance of agricultural technology result in slavery being properly absolished. Blacks were not the only slaves in the colonies; how about the British indentured servants, eh? The backstory issue with the Civil War was the South's economic export/import capability, its differences with federalism; also felt in the Middle West. Care for a cup ofr tea, brother pioneer abd colonial ancestor?

Posted by: IowaLad | April 6, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Yahooooooooooooooooo! McDonnell turns Virginia backwards by 150 yrs! KKK, gun toting racists, vile behavior towards women and children, segregation, hatred, absolutely no education, etc. Yahooooooooooooo! Ignorence is bliss!

Posted by: merf-1 | April 6, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Years ago (1970s), Univ. of Maryland, Middle Period of American History, learned the Civil War was preventable, the practice of slavery was unenconomical for the South, a dastardly practice anyway, the advance of agricultural technology result in slavery being properly absolished. Blacks were not the only slaves in the colonies; how about the British indentured servants, eh? The backstory issue with the Civil War was the South's economic export/import capability, its differences with federalism; also felt in the Middle West. Care for a cup ofr tea, brother pioneer abd colonial ancestor?

Posted by: IowaLad | April 6, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I have read alot of these posts. I can not believe the ignorance that I have read tonight. I live in Virginia, I have family that fought in the Civil war. That war was based on economics, not slavery. The North was starving the south from being able to trade. If we could not trade and make money, how could we live ???? If you lost your job and could'nt make any money what would you do ??? anything you had to do in order to support your family !!!! Thats what the South did. LEARN your history people, and shed your ignorance. I do not believe in slavery , I think its wrong. But look into the history of your beloved north and you will find the North had just as many slaves as the South and actually treated the slaves worse. I never owned slaves, and non of my ancestors owned slaves. Does that make me a member of the KKK ??? Hell no it doesnt. The Civil War is part of THIS NATIONS HISTORY. If you can't look at it and learn from it, we are all doomed to repeat it.

Posted by: Southernandproudofit | April 6, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I have read alot of these posts. I can not believe the ignorance that I have read tonight. I live in Virginia, I have family that fought in the Civil war. That war was based on economics, not slavery. The North was starving the south from being able to trade. If we could not trade and make money, how could we live ???? If you lost your job and could'nt make any money what would you do ??? anything you had to do in order to support your family !!!! Thats what the South did. LEARN your history people, and shed your ignorance. I do not believe in slavery , I think its wrong. But look into the history of your beloved north and you will find the North had just as many slaves as the South and actually treated the slaves worse. I never owned slaves, and non of my ancestors owned slaves. Does that make me a member of the KKK ??? Hell no it doesnt. The Civil War is part of THIS NATIONS HISTORY. If you can't look at it and learn from it, we are all doomed to repeat it.

Posted by: Southernandproudofit | April 6, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

IT IS WAY PAST TIME THIS WAS DONE. IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED IN ALL 50 STATES. IF WHITE AMERICA CAN ENDURE BLACK HISTORY MONTH THEN BLACK AMERICA CAN ACCEPT CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH IN WHICH ALL OUR WHITE CHILDREN ARE TAUGHT THE HISTORY OF THERE PAST AND IT'S GREATNESS. THERE BLACK GOD "MLK" WANTED EQUAL RIGHTS, WELL HERE IT IS. I HAVE A DREAM AND IT'S COMING TRUE. I PRAY IT DOES NOT STOP HERE. BE PROUD OF YOUR PAST AND WHO YOU ARE. HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH. BE NOT ASHAME OF YOUR HISTORY AND ALL THOSE GREAT MEN AND WOMEN WHO LIVED IT. WE OWE NO ONE AN APOLOGY. HISTORY IS HISTORY, ACCEPT IT. THIS SIMPLY BALANCES THE SCALE. VIRGINIA HAS A GREAT GOVERNOR WHO IS DOING A GREAT JOB FOR ALL THE PEOPLE. HE LEVELED THE PLAYING FIELD. I HOPE THE REST OF THE STATE'S GOVERNOR'S WILL STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND DO THE SAME THING FOR THERE CITIZEN'S.

Posted by: METT1831 | April 6, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

"The civil war was due to the federal gov. over stepping its bounds and trying to rule on the affairs of the states,(sound familiar??) "

Name something the Federal govt did pre-1860 that over-stepped its bounds.

The South seceded because Lincoln was elected, and Lincoln was sympathetic to the abolitionists. The South wanted not only to keep slavery, but to preserve the ability for new states in the West to be slave-owning. The latter was threatened by the prospect of a Lincoln presidency.

SC and other states didn't even wait for Lincoln to take office before seceding, and SC did it within 6 weeks of his election.

The "state's rights" that the South wanted to preserve was their right to own slaves and to take escaped slaves captured in the North back into slavery.

The fact that you add "sound familiar?" is a good reminder why McDonnell chose to do this. It resonates among the anti-government ignoranti.

Posted by: hitpoints | April 6, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

They forgot this part of the story...

"Obama gets million dollar fundraising gift from McDonnell as 100k virginians donate additional $10 to DNC. Michael Steele blames 'race card' in televised speech from nazi themed strip club."

Posted by: mikey999 | April 6, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

what are these confederates trying to achieve? learn the lesson from us -the yankees- again like in 1865?

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Posted by: jfdsiafsak | April 6, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I am appalled at the lack of knowledge displayed by many of the respondents above, thus demonstrating the shameful state of American education. Virginia seceded legally, and of course, constitutionally as did the other states of the Southern Confederacy (except for those states that tried peacefully to depart and were militarily barred by the traitor Lincoln.) Of course, the descendents of those brave men, women and children, black, Hispanic and white, who died defending their homes should solemnly honor their ancestors for standing before the rapacious invader who raped, looted, burned, murdered and ultimately destroyed the South which still has not totally recovered from the evil that descended upon them. The off-spring of those who accomplished this dastardly invasion have much to learn. Study before you open your mouths. So, hoorah for the Old Dominion State and her brave governor! And to those who would tell her to “get over it” (like the Irish and Scots?) or call them Nazis without reason--shame on you!

Posted by: Hunter9 | April 6, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I grew up in Minnesota and I am not a racist but I believe your overreacting and history has been mistaught.
1)The Confederates were fighting for states rights not slavery.
2)If the north was winning Lincoln would not have created the Emancipation Proclamation.

Posted by: stumpjumper1 | April 6, 2010 10:02 PM
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Which "states rights" do you think the South was fighting to preserve?

The South wanted to preserve its "right" to own slaves, because a majority of southern wealth was derived and sustained by slave labor. The South was overwhelmingly agrarian at the time and the emancipation of the slaves would have been financially disruptive, at best, and financially devastating at worst.

So, the South fought to preserve its slave-based economy. Ultimately, no matter how you parse it, it all boils down to a dispute about slavery. As such, the notion that the Civil War was not about slavery is absurd revisionism.

Posted by: associate20 | April 6, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

It now appears, that through deficit spending and unlimited entitlements, that Obama will bankrupt the Union and do more damage than all the Confederate armies together managed.

Consider that, all you enlightened bashers of the Southern states; Virginia was attacked for wanting to leave the Union, but when the war was over, West Virginia was not returned to Virginia. Secession for me, but not for thee?

Hypocrites!

Posted by: Wanderer13 | April 6, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

!968 Republican Southern Strategy alive and well in 2010. Old racists just can't seem to change their spots.

The republicans and Massa' Bobba-Lee McDonnell have discussed revoking the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to the Constitution and Michael Steele is just too thick to know what they are talking about.

Posted by: seasail | April 6, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

The "War Between the States" is part of the history of this great Republic! All the idiots who want to change history and sweep it under the rug should go stick their heads in a sandbar somewhere.

Posted by: csa178 | April 6, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

For the uninformed, uneducated, mentally deficient liberals...the South was INVADED by Mr. Lincoln when they wouldn't continue to do as he pleased. Remember all...the States created the Fed - not the other way around. The South was dead wrong about slavery - right on about the monster called the federal government. History repeating itself now? Your "religious" comments are also foolish and show your agenda. I bet not one of you elitist obama kool-aid marxists are even VA natives. Go home and shut up about our governor.

Posted by: RedStateDave
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Uhm...bet you don't read much do you? The south declared their secession in late February/early March of 1861. ..and FYI, Lincoln was the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES. You're damn right he sent in the army. Not to mention, the Confederate forces initiated attacks on federal Fort Sumter, not the other way around. Must be nice looking at reality through the distant filmy glaze of revisionism.

A great man once said on CSPAN, "you can have your own opinions, but you cannot have your own facts".

You sir, are trying to create your own facts, like many conservative republicans who don't care for the current administration (under a black president I might add).

Posted by: domino21710 | April 6, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Well hold on to your hats. This is no surprise to those who are watching all the antics lately. Try going to one of our School Board meetings in Wilmington, N.C.

This nice lady got up and I almost flipped out the chair over her statement but, then I realized she cannot possibly understand what she is saying-no she truly did not understand the look on my face or why I was ready to slap somebody but, I held off. What ignorance I heard!!!!!!

She said, "our young white female teachers are afraid of these strong young Black males in their class". Let me explain this to you and her: Hello! this is one of the most racist statements that has been used to down the Black male!!!!!!!
During slavery it was: Oh Miss Lilly afraid of them young Black Bucks"-got it???

Quickly I was like in my mind-what the hell did she say???? Then, I was kind and said shouldn't teachers have control of their classrooms-so why would they be afraid? This is "pure hidden racism". Then get this they have to come up with a process to hire more qualified Blacks. Excuse me-in N.C.? AT&T; North Carolina Central; Winston Salem State; Kitrell; Shaw; Shaw Divinity School; etc. What's the problem? Fayetteville State Teachers College--HELLO!!!
No, President Obama should have been there-better yet Michelle Obama!!! NAACP from every State in the United States.

What the hell is going on? Then, they had the little awards ceremoney-well,well Sharpton, Jesse Jackson-listen up. They hired 300 but, stick up one finger and count as to how many Latino, Latina; African Americans; Asian, Indian, Samoan, etc were hired????? Huh, one. Well and this was said. Most of the applications were thrown in the trash but, we have to work on a system that will prove they can teach--oh how lovely... let's use the Harlem Project????? We have to tackle violence in our schools-yeah racism.

Oh and we welcome the audience to speak...three minutes and it was timed.
However, in the middle old guy interrupted several times. So, forget it.

We want this Board to know-you will not be back...enjoy your time now!!! Vote! Vote! Vote if you believe in diversity and fair and equal justice in education.

And President Obama come sit at one of our meetings but come speak to Scar1 and NAACP for short History and all the scoop on this Board and past Boards. Now this is a real hoot here.

Posted by: Scar1 | April 6, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't the confederacy fighting a war against what we now enjoy, the United States of America??

Posted by: Bajiquan | April 6, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Civil War history should be taught. However, the Governor did not ask that Civil War history be taught, only the Confederate history as white washed by the CSA. The fact was Virginia was the site of many Civil War battles. There has been a lot of tourism related to the many battlefields where both Union and Confederate soldiers fell. That does not mean a one sided glorified version of what the South stood for should be raised to a state recognition. The South has created a myth of the nobility of their cause, and not recognized the reality of the brutality of their ownership of other people. The Confederate Sons of America should hang their heads in shame and forsake their membership in an organization that glorifies an institution that lead to the deaths of some 600000 on the battlefield and the treatment of their fellow human beings as nothing but property. The Confederacy was not glorious, it was putrid and died a painful and ugly death.

Posted by: merrylees | April 6, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

The CSA were treasonous enemies of the USA. There is no difference between the CSA and the Axis Powers of WWII. I'd like to see the Gov. of VA declare May Axis Powers month. What kind of fool did the people of VA elect?

Posted by: philasportsphan | April 6, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I just read through quite a few of you "open mouth breathers" comments. He's not gearing up for a KKK comeback and he's not celebrating slavery. He's simply granting the wish of the families of deceased soldiers. You are the same people who defend the families of terrorists, why can't you defend our own? Get some Vagisil for your aches and get over it!

Posted by: uh60cw2

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Using that logic Germany should have Nazi History Month. Your logic is flawed and probably colored by your bigotry.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | April 6, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I just read through quite a few of you "open mouth breathers" comments. He's not gearing up for a KKK comeback and he's not celebrating slavery. He's simply granting the wish of the families of deceased soldiers. You are the same people who defend the families of terrorists, why can't you defend our own? Get some Vagisil for your aches and get over it!

Posted by: uh60cw2

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Using that logic Germany should have Nazi History Month. Your logic is flawed and probably colored by your bigotry.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | April 6, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Any comments yet from Mike Steele, Doug Wilder, or Sheila Johnson?

"Next up on BET: We celebrate Confederate History Month."

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 6, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Wanderer13,

Boundaries within states change, jurisdictions change (e.g. Alexandria retroceded from DC back to Virginia in 1846 without any controversy; the city of Alexandria left Alexandria County, VA in 1870). Nevada broke from Utah territory to become its own state.

There's a difference between reconfiguring an area within a state, and a state declaring itself sovereign and outside of the U.S. Constitution altogether simply because it objects to the outcome of an election.

The southern states also attempted to appropriate federal property as part of secession.

When the states enacted the Constitution we didn't create a loose confederation of independent states -- we created a nation. The question of state sovereignty came into play with the anti-Federalist movement back in 1787-89 -- in the end though the states dumped the Articles of Confederation and ratified the Constitution.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

If anyone ever doubts that liberals are nothing but seething, hateful ignoramuses, let that person read the comments posted here.

Posted by: thebump | April 6, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

An awful lot of talk of states rights, secession and now, celebrating confederacy month....the right wing sure has gone full out 1858.
I am sure soon we will see a couple states decide to band together and then go and fire on some military installation to 'express themselves'.
Just because Obama admires Lincoln, hails from Illinois and is tall and gangly and highly intelligent does not mean the country wants another civil war - no matter how badly the right wing extremists, abetted by Fox, tries.

Posted by: vwcat | April 6, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Well, no doubt Virginia should also celebrate its true status as a confederate state:
MAY 2010 IS VIRGINIA'S SLAVE STATE HISTORY MONTH! HURRAH!

Posted by: dudh | April 6, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I am a Virginian who is neither a hick nor a hillbilly. I also did not vote for McDonnell or Cuccinelli. I feel like they have an undercurrent of prejudice that is slowly coming to the surface. I love VA but I wish we could move into the 21st century.

Posted by: luvbnme75 | April 6, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

There is black history month, why not confederate history month. I wish there was a Irish history month. I would love to have my kids learn about their ancestry way of life, and how hard or easy it was. The north had away of life, the south had another way. This conflict is just another way of starting the "race" issue up and keeping it up. Don't make a huge deal about this. If we can't have more than one "different" history month, we shouldn't have any.........

Posted by: shoreytim | April 6, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I think this is great for our state of Virginia. Finally, someone can stick up for our Southern heritage instead of plaguing it with ignorance. Virginia stood up against a government that had too much power during a time when there was strict limitations on government power. For all you bloggers who disagree and assert your feelings towards racism, you need to start reading up[ on the Civil War past your two class lesson in high school.

Posted by: hoss37tt | April 6, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I am so tired of the liberal media trying to re-write history. I am tired of the whining, the give me because you owe me. It happened. Get over it. It cannot be ignored. Those who try to erase history are doomed to repeat.
Stop the whining. Stop the bellyaching
My father was half Indian. When approached he would say "you lost the war , get over it."

Posted by: shebudnik | April 6, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

So, for Gov. Bob McDonnell, does slavery month come after Confederate Month? Now why would a national corporation want to move its offices to Virginia or want to hold a convention in Virginia? Apparently, Virginia is now for hater.

Posted by: navyvet | April 6, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I think this is great for our state of Virginia. Finally, someone can stick up for our Southern heritage instead of plaguing it with ignorance. Virginia stood up against a government that had too much power during a time when there was strict limitations on government power. For all you bloggers who disagree and assert your feelings towards racism, you need to start reading up on the Civil War past your two class lessons in high school.

Posted by: hoss37tt | April 6, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I am so tired of the liberal media trying to re-write history. I am tired of the whining, the give me because you owe me. It happened. Get over it. It cannot be ignored. Those who try to erase history are doomed to repeat.
Stop the whining. Stop the bellyaching
My father was half Indian. When approached he would say "you lost the war , get over it."

Posted by: shebudnik | April 6, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

So he wants to celebrate breaking his state into half? He wants to celebrate a military defeat of treason and the desire to hold humans as slaves? (The war was not about "states rights" it was about slavery. And now he wants to egg on the tea party traitors to start a war against the Union and lose again? Nice guy.

Posted by: wd1214 | April 6, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

If it hadn't been for that slavery thing, we would have been better off letting the South secede. It would have raised the collective IQ of the United States and spared us the likes of idiots like George W. Bush. As an added bonus, the South would be among the ranks of the third world, where they clearly belong.

Posted by: Bugs222 | April 6, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama is soon going to introduce 60% taxation and 20% unemployment month.

Posted by: pkhenry | April 6, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Virginia will raise the Confederate Flag and replace it with the US Flag for a month. Don't look for minorities to visit while Virginia is celebrating the Civil War as citizens might think they can kill and hang blacks during the month as they did in the pass. We'll see how the use of the back door, black/white drinking areas and don't forget black have to set in the back of the bus for a Month. Yes some might call themselves owners to their workers as slaves were called property. Well the Virginia Governor knows how to stop people from visiting Virginia. This should continue the drive to incite violence as that's what the GOP has been doing for over a year.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | April 6, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

shoreytim,

A month dedicated to the Civil War would make sense for Virginia, because its a significant part of the state's history. The main issue that I'd have is with the "Confederate History Month". The fact that a carpetbagger like McDonnell omits any mention of slavery too, demonstrates that his historical remembrance is a pretty selective one.

It's ironic that carpetbaggers like California born George Allen and Pennsylvania born Bob McDonnell are the ones most apt to wrap themselves in the old Stars and Bars.

Next month I hear McDonnell is going to issue a proclamation honoring Catholic child molesters.

It's amazing that a former AG has so little respect for U.S. tradition and law. I guess that's what you get when you get your legal training at Jiffy Law.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Seriously people, must we all be so ignorant concerning history?! The Civil War is part of our history and cannot be ignored! Even the unpleasant parts can't be ignored! I'm from a northern state and think all this squabble over confederate history month is ludicrous! It can't be considered as treason! The Constitution clearly states that if the populace deems the government to be tyrannical then they have a right to change it! They felt it was their only choice! And for those of you claiming and going on about the slavery, there is a nationwide African American History month. AND THE CIVIL WAR IS NOT ABOUT SLAVERY! IT WAS OVER STATES RIGHTS! We have every right to study the history of the Confederacy and the poor men who died for it! They died for a cause they believed in and should be recognized for it! SO stop your belly aching and actually go read history and study all sides of the story so you don't go about making such ignorant and unsupported comments. Ignorance breeds hate.

Posted by: Ragna1 | April 6, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

If they can have a Black History Month, why not have a Confederate Month? Doubble Standard?

Posted by: MyTwoSense1 | April 6, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Franklin Roosevelt dumped Napalm on hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians. Proof that Democrats are both racists and mass murderers.

Posted by: pkhenry | April 6, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

This is a move clearly designed to play to the tea-baggers, KKK, and other miscellaneous miscreants, homophobes, and racists.

Posted by: JBGJRESQ | April 6, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Ragna1,

The issue isn't recognizing history; the issue is white-washing history and presenting only part of a controversy.

Civil War History month, OK. Especially relevant for a state like Virginia.

Confederate History month, on the other hand, is a celebration of human stupidity.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

We know libs, McDonnell is a racist, he might as well be wearing a white robe and hood, his next step will probably be to secede, blah, blah, blah. Politically correct or not, the Confederacy deserves to have their history recognized because the fact of the matter is that they are a part of our history. The injustices perpetrated on a people by this country is not limited to just the Southern half. In fact, the injustices started in the north and continued on into the South and out West. The United States in general has many stains in its history that it should be ashamed of. But we still recognize it because it's a fact of history that cannot be changed, and because we have come a long way from those injustices.

Posted by: conservativemaverick | April 6, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

This is just crazy and is an unvarnished play to excite the far right members of the Republican Party and the Tea Party. Does the Republican Party think that this is the right approach to motivate moderates and independents to vote Republican?

So, Gov. Bob McDonnell has positioned himself a leader in the Republican Party and he gave the Republican response to the State of the Union. Is this an official Republican position? What do you say Mr. Steele?

Now why would a national corporation want to move its offices to Virginia or what to hold a convention in Virginia?

Posted by: navyvet | April 6, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

When you study WWII, you can't help but admire individual soldiers and leaders of Germany and Japan. A marvelous memoir was written by a German soldier.

http://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/2059.World_War_2_buffs?group_book_id=140863

Surely, when you see how young the German soldiers were at the German cemetery at Normandy, a tear comes to the eye not dissimilar to ones shed at the American cemetery. By the same token, who on earth would dedicate a month to the Axis heritage? Would you not, were you Japanese, prefer to celebrate the Edo period? Were you German, would you not prefer to celebrate Bismarck? In fact, that is who they celebrate. By heavens, Virginia is the home of seven Presidents. That's what the state should take pride in.

Posted by: Martial | April 6, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Just because he declared a Confederate History month doesn't make the man a racist, a neo-Confederate, or whatever other slurs people are calling him.

Virginia played a huge role in the Civil War. You can't just pretend the state didn't secede. If you do that, you're no better than a Holocaust denier.

The allegations of racism are bogus. I seriously doubt that this move means that McDonnell hates African-Americans. Give me a break.

Posted by: brian71490 | April 6, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

pkhenry,

Two problems with your historical and scientific reasoning:

Truman dropped the bombs on Japan at the end of WWII (FDR was dead by then).

An atomic bomb is not made of napalm.

Did you graduate high school?

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Slavery would've ended before 1900 in the South because of leaders like Stonewall Jackson and Jefferson Davis (who by the way adopted a black child and later paid for his college education). The thing is during the time, blacks weren't accepted all together. Abraham Lincoln himself was elected into office with policies that would send freed blacks back to Africa. The South was fighting because of an end of limited government not because of hate towards a race of people. Only 20 percent of Virginians owned slaves when the war broke out, but every able man fought for the Confederacy. Do you really think non slave owners would fight in a war just to keep blacks enslaved? The answer, if you would open a book is NO.

Posted by: hoss37tt | April 6, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

The next move should be to re-name the state to DUMBFU$KISTAN

Seriously, what are these guys thinking

Posted by: ChicagoSteve | April 6, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

ragna1 - where does "The Constitution clearly states that if the populace deems the government to be tyrannical then they have a right to change it!"? And, if you can provide the actual words of the Constitution also provide the remedy that the Constitution suggests. I'll be waiting for your reply.

Posted by: philasportsphan | April 6, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

My relatives also fought in the War for the south and which I doubt any of Mcdonnells rets were even in the country back then. The South lost , get over it--- period. What is there to celebrate for the losers? Obviously, it was the best outcome, forget about it and move on. History stands on its own.

Posted by: Oilcan4148 | April 6, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Next will be Jim Crow Appreciation day. Tourists can participate in fun reenactments of segregated buses and lunch counters!

Posted by: maggots | April 6, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

TO hell with this black everything is ok and we are racist to want to stand for our color ,would you african americans still like to be in that barberic continent? I think not just about every race has been in one form of slavery or another shut up and enjoy what freedom you have gotten through history . YOU were sold by your own people ,I can get aqlong and respect anyone but winning crybabys the JEWS had it much worse and american Indian than you people . We deserve some holidays and respect for our race also.Thats not even mentioning how your great halfbread obama has and is selling out all Americans freedom but your racism blinds you thats SAD!!!!!!!!

Posted by: sckjcrsweet | April 6, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Here's what you can discuss during Confederate History Month, Governor: Day 1 -- The South Lost, Day 2 -- The South Lost, Day 3 -- The South Lost...see where this is going?
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The North won, the feds make the history today, and if you get your Confederate History Month, it's because the feds are letting you get your Confederate History Month out of charity.

Posted by: chris3 | April 6, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Franklin Roosevelt dumped Napalm on hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians. Proof that Democrats are both racists and mass murderers.

Posted by: pkhenry | April 6, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

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No, proof that you are a blithering idiot.

Posted by: maggots | April 6, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Let's ban things. You can't say 'confederate' anymore. There never was a confederacy. There were slaves in this country for 250 years before Emancipation. There were also indentured servants. Whatever you think of it, it wasn't an invention of The South or Southerners. It was sanctioned by the entire American political establishment until the abolitionist movement came along.
You people would be well-advised to quit this demonizing of Southerners and eradication of history and engage in discussion about what the phrase "When in the course of human events it becomes necessary...' means and how it applied to 1861.

Posted by: chatard | April 6, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Apart from the obvious overt racism in declaring a month celebrating the Confederacy, I am wondering how patriotic it is to celebrate a group that wanted to break away from the USA. Another Macaca moment for the Virginia Republicans.

Posted by: shobha1 | April 6, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Let's ban things. You can't say 'confederate' anymore. There never was a confederacy. There were slaves in this country for 250 years before Emancipation. There were also indentured servants. Whatever you think of it, it wasn't an invention of The South or Southerners. It was sanctioned by the entire American political establishment until the abolitionist movement came along.
You people would be well-advised to quit this demonizing of Southerners and eradication of history and engage in discussion about what the phrase "When in the course of human events it becomes necessary...' means and how it applied to 1861.....and 2010.

Posted by: chatard | April 6, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

This country is full of self righteous people who need to get a life. The Civil War was an intimate part of Virginia History.

Growing up in Virginia we were required to study Virginia History as part of our education in Public schools. Has liberalism made that NO LONGER part of the state's history?

Complaining about Confederate History Month, makes me wonder why the same crowds are not screaming to close down all the battlefield parks that dot the entire state.

When in High School, at Friday night football games in Fairfax County, the high school band played the National Anthem, and then immediately broke into "Dixie".
The crowds stood and cheered.

Guess we are now all considered rednecks and racists for cheering our heritage back then, by those on the liberal left.

Posted by: seafire | April 6, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

This is what you get when you vote a fundamentalist so called "christian" bigot into office.
This guy would make everyone who isn't lily white ride on the back of the bus, if he thought he could get away with it.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | April 6, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I'm a Virginia native that had recently considered returning to my home state. I will definitely be looking elsewhere. A sad day indeed.

Posted by: b4life | April 6, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

While I am not completely surprised, it still is disheartening how Virginia continues to elect leaders who shamelessly pander to the racist hillbilly vote. Wake up Virginians, you lost the war. You were on the wrong side of history. Northerners were right. Whatever you may think of your lilly white ancestors and their values, they were losers. America loathes sore losers.

Posted by: dooseiai | April 6, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

brian71490,

How can a person talk about "Confederate History" month and not have one word about slavery?

McDonnell may or may not be a racist. My own view is that he probably isn't -- he just lacks the b-lls to just say no to the bigots who make up a sizeable part of his party's dying political base.

Additionally the man ran as a moderate. He explicitly stated that he would focus on jobs and the economy; he dismissed questions about his social positions and social views.

It's not exactly clear how Confederate Month is going to put up an "open for business" sign to out-of-state employers. Big employers will probably put a bigger weight on things like tax-rates, transportation infrastructure, and other factors. These kind of moves though aren't exactly a welcome mat for businesses with 21st century attitudes.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

We recognize the African American sides though but the true motivation of the Confederates are largely ignored. We are not white-washing history. If we were white washing history then we would cut out everything about slavery and about the poor Native Americans and what we did to them. We need all sides of the story. The Confederate side is largely ignored. Slavery was part of the issue yes, but most who fought for the Confederates didn't own slaves.

Posted by: Ragna1 | April 6, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

I think this is great for our state of Virginia. Finally, someone can stick up for our Southern heritage instead of plaguing it with ignorance. Virginia stood up against a government that had too much power during a time when there was strict limitations on government power. For all you bloggers who disagree and assert your feelings towards racism, you need to start reading up[ on the Civil War past your two class lesson in high school.

Posted by: hoss37tt | April 6, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

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I love it the way people like you romanticize the Confederacy. In reality, it was an evil government that forced people to live as slaves, not any better than Ancient Egypt or Hitler's Germany.

Posted by: maggots | April 6, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Really disappointing. I'm a Virginia native who had recently considered moving back to my home state. I'll definitely be looking elsewhere. A sad day indeed.

Posted by: b4life | April 6, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

The Civil War may have been a high point in the history of the various southern states, but for the Nation it was the pits. What was at stake was the continued income of politically influential southern planters who couldn't make a go of it without the help of cost free labor. Besides their labor, slaves provided an ongoing psychic gift from the pleasure derived from heaping scorn on hapless owned people. Learning to respect black people was harder than giving up smoking. So let Virginia celebrate the halcyon ante-bellum days of juleps on the veranda. Segregation now. Segregation tuhmahruh. Segregation foe evuh.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | April 6, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Poor Virginia, so far from God so close to the old south.

Posted by: protagoras | April 6, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

seafire,

Did only rebs die on Virginia's battlefields? How about the Virginians who sided with the Union cause and the abolition of slavery?

So now they aren't part of the history of the state?

Once again, the issue isn't remembering the past.

The issue is white-washing history.

It's presenting a Disney-fied version of history for the intellectually challenged that's the problem.

Civil War Remembrance Month smart. Confederate Month, on the other hand, is just dumb.

Fortunately, these kind of actions are likely to stick on McDonnell's resume when he starts thinking about running for national office.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I applaud the decision to declare April Confederate month!! The Southern Confederacy is part of American history. Like it or not, our ancestors were involved in the Civil War, either Confederate or Union. We absolutely need to honor all of our nation's soldiers.

Posted by: aminer1 | April 6, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Perhaps if people actually read the proclamation they would understand that it is better to remember, less we forget.

Whereas there is absolutely no mention of slavery.

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I can't wait for Michael Steele to come out in
support of the governor he is so proud to
have helped elect.

Posted by: printthis | April 6, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Damn right it should be celebrated. Wht should my heritage be squashed, yet I have to put up with everybody else's? But maybe they should call it American Civil War month and actually teach people the truth. It all started over State's Rights, slavery only became an issue later in the war. The Confederates weren't really doing all that much different than the Militia and Continental Army in the American Revolution. It should be a teaching and learning experience rather than a celebration. The only celebration should be about all those who fought and died for what they thought was right in their own minds, after all, they were all Americans. All you people screaming racism and being offended, how many of you voted for Obama, a muslim to be president, and after 9/11? That's a total slap in the face and as offensive or more than anything else, especially to those who served or families of those who died.

Posted by: markvacc1 | April 6, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

There is a Black History month and a Hispanic Heritage month. Why can't there be a White History month?
Also, this was a time when southern states and families fought to defend their way of life, even though it was wrong. As far as I am concerned, that is very commendable and worth attention. This is not a month of celebration for racism but for recognizing and bringing awareness for what a pivotal role Virginia played in the Civil War.

Posted by: beamerball07 | April 6, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Apart from the obvious overt racism in declaring a month celebrating the Confederacy, I am wondering how patriotic it is to celebrate a group that wanted to break away from the USA. Another Macaca moment for the Virginia Republicans.

Posted by: shobha1 | April 6, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

It really sickens me to hear people like "Marilyn Manson" or whatever tear down American history. The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about the issue of state's rights versus the rights of the federal government, and that issue remains unsettled.
In fact, the divisions in this country that fueled the Civil War remain and it is people like "marilynmanson" and the radical left wing of the Democrat Party who are driving the wedge deeper and deeper -- this time between those people and state's that still hold to traditional American values -- the Red States -- and those few states and people who want to impose their socialist agenda on the rest of us -- the Blue States.
I am a patriot. I truly hate to say this but I am beginning to believe more and more that we really AREN'T one nation anymore. We are two distinct peoples barely held together by this ephemeral allegiance to the federal government. And that tie is getting weaker by the day.
I want my America back! I don't want to apologize for my nation or for waving the flag. And I won't apologize for my forefathers -- my six great-great-great-great grandfathers who served in the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia during the Civil War. Rather, I am proud of them and of their service to their nation.

Posted by: tlheadley | April 6, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Virginia is for Lovers

Is now

Virginia is for Losers

Thanks Bob

Posted by: notthatdum | April 6, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

As a Oklahoman I don't really have a dog in this fight but find it amazing at the name calling (many with racial overtones) that are posted by both sides of this issue. When you post on the internet I guess you really are 7 foot, 260 pounds and full of piss and vinegar. I'd love to see you all argue in a room face to face. What the hell happened to respectful disagreement? Also, as a tea party supporter, who is white, does that make me a unpatriotic uneducated racist? As a college educated professional US Soldier with combat tours in Iraq I sure as hell hope not. Both sides need to quit painting with such a wide brush.

Posted by: johnny12mh | April 6, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that supporters of the proclamation yearn for a return to Virginia's glorious past and a divorce from that mean, nasty Federal government. You know which government I am talking about --- the one which provided the economic engine of a Federal government workforce in northern Virginia and a vast military presence in southeastern Virginia. Yeah who needs them (then or now) we can all go back to planting cotton, peanuts and tobacco. Now the only problem is finding the manpower to keep that agrarian economy running. With unemployment so high (especially amongst blacks and hispanics) maybe they would voluntarily move back to the land as --- whoops I almost said slaves, well how about as sharecroppers or hired help? Virginia used to be for Lovers, now it is apparently for idiots?

Posted by: army164 | April 6, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Save youah Confederate money, boys, the Saouth will rahse again . . .

Posted by: chuck8 | April 6, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that supporters of the proclamation yearn for a return to Virginia's glorious past and a divorce from that mean, nasty Federal government. You know which government I am talking about --- the one which provided the economic engine of a Federal government workforce in northern Virginia and a vast military presence in southeastern Virginia. Yeah who needs them (then or now) we can all go back to planting cotton, peanuts and tobacco. Now the only problem is finding the manpower to keep that agrarian economy running. With unemployment so high (especially amongst blacks and hispanics) maybe they would voluntarily move back to the land as --- whoops I almost said slaves, well how about as sharecroppers or hired help? Virginia used to be for Lovers, now it is apparently for idiots?

Posted by: army164 | April 6, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

My outrage regarding this proclamation is the hints of language that does not condemn the treason and racism that occured during the period that led to secession, the War and the ensuing Jim Crow Era in Virgina (and other area in this country). History should be taught and understood, but a proclamation honoring those who tore the country asunder is insidious and pandering to those who only want to see the nobility of the Southern Cause, and not the damage done to the American people. Some people are right, the war WAS about states rights. A states right to continue to own slaves. The battlefields should be preserved, the lessons taught, but let us never forget that the war ended in 1865, but did not end until the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FORCED DESEGREGATION starting in the late 1940's. I am offended by those who say that this proclamation is no big deal.You people have no understanding of history.

And people of color have been persecuted in this country since the beginning of the union. Example - Japanese Americans were put in internment camps and German Americans were allowed to remain free during WWII.

Posted by: cwill1525 | April 6, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

If it were truly an attempt to draw us to study the Civil War--it wouldn't be called CONFEDERATE History Month. There's only one side of the story the governor's interested and real history has many sides and many truths. To look at the war from one side only is indoctrination, not education.

It a payback to a supporter, nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: wd1214 | April 6, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Also, let's get some facts straight before you keep calling somebody racist. Everybody is racist to a point.......some more than others. Also, for the "African" Americans and everybody else that don't know.....It was your ancestors that were the losers in whatever conflict they had with a neighboring tribe. If not sold by other Africans, they still would have been slaves, tortured and killed over there. So look at your opportunities in America now vs they way people still live in Africa and ask yourself, where would you rather live? If I had the chance, I would not go back and change slavery because it is quite possible none of us would exist today. As a Southerner, I don't agree with slavery, but the Confederacy is still my heritage. As for not going back and changing slavery, I also would not go back and change the outcome of the war. It's all a part of who we are as a nation.

Posted by: markvacc1 | April 6, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Those of you posting racial comments about the south standing for slavery show your true lack of education. It was NORTHERN ships that brung slaves over. It was the North that begun the slave trade in America and it was the NORTH that still owned slaves even after the war was over. Don't believe it? Just read about Ulysses Grant, the General over the ENTIRE NORTHERN ARMY THAT REFUSED TO LET HIS 3 SLAVES GO FREE! You folks have this thing all twisted. Do some research before posting you poor useless fools.

Posted by: sloganboards | April 6, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Thank god for a great Virginian, like this man and TJ.

Posted by: virginiafan2002 | April 6, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Those of you posting racial comments about the south standing for slavery show your true lack of education. It was NORTHERN ships that brung slaves over. It was the North that begun the slave trade in America and it was the NORTH that still owned slaves even after the war was over. Don't believe it? Just read about Ulysses Grant, the General over the ENTIRE NORTHERN ARMY THAT REFUSED TO LET HIS 3 SLAVES GO FREE! You folks have this thing all twisted. Do some research before posting you poor useless fools.

Posted by: sloganboards | April 6, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Why not Conferderate History Month?? It is about time! Thousands of Confederates died fighting for states rights, for their land, for their freedoms -- NOT FOR SLAVERY!! Enough political correctness! Thank GOD this Governor has some GUTS!

Posted by: divedixie | April 6, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

A great Virginian just like TJ.

Posted by: virginiafan2002 | April 6, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Ragna1,

Slavery isn't mentioned as part of a memorial of the Civil War in McDonnell's "proclamation". That's a pretty serious omission.

Of course, the south used high sounding principle as a basis for it's actions back in 1861; many who came to the call of arms did so on the basis of "states rights" and their belief that this was a "second revolution".

At it's core though, the whole dispute was about slavery.

The fact that some wealthy planters manipulated the idealism and sense of adventure of some yeoman farmers isn't exactly a thing to be celebrated. The fact that it's so easy for the rich to convince the uneducated and poor to die for a mindless cause isn't exactly a cause for celebration either (especially in a state where there was tremendous inequality even among free-men).

The state should remember the Civil War. A person can appreciate the sacrifice on both sides, and the history.

The white wash is what's at issue here. The long-dirty aftermath after the war is part of that history too that gets swept under the rug with these kind of things. Part of that legacy -- including miscegenation laws and school segregation -- is still part of the historical memory of many who grew up in the state.

Mark Warner was right several years ago when he signaled a turn towards the 21st century.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Why not Conferderate History Month?? It is about time! Thousands of Confederates died fighting for states rights, for their land, for their freedoms -- NOT FOR SLAVERY!! Enough political correctness! Thank GOD this Governor has some GUTS!

Posted by: divedixie | April 6, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

A great Virginian just like TJ.

Posted by: virginiafan2002 | April 6, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

It really sickens me to hear people like "Marilyn Manson" or whatever tear down American history. The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about the issue of state's rights versus the rights of the federal government, and that issue remains unsettled.
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Typical technical gibberish. Of course it was about state's rights. And the specific right was for the southern states to maintain their agrarian economic models that required huge numbers of unpaid workers (hence slaves). It is rather disingenuous to claim the technical reason for secession and leave out the inescapable underlying root cause.

Posted by: army164 | April 6, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

It really sickens me to hear people like "Marilyn Manson" or whatever tear down American history. The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about the issue of state's rights versus the rights of the federal government, and that issue remains unsettled.
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Typical technical gibberish. Of course it was about state's rights. And the specific right was for the southern states to maintain their agrarian economic models that required huge numbers of unpaid workers (hence slaves). It is rather disingenuous to claim the technical reason for secession and leave out the inescapable underlying root cause.

Posted by: army164 | April 6, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

It really sickens me to hear people like "Marilyn Manson" or whatever tear down American history. The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about the issue of state's rights versus the rights of the federal government, and that issue remains unsettled.
____________________
Typical technical gibberish. Of course it was about state's rights. And the specific right was for the southern states to maintain their agrarian economic models that required huge numbers of unpaid workers (hence slaves). It is rather disingenuous to claim the technical reason for secession and leave out the inescapable underlying root cause.

Posted by: army164 | April 6, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

For the uninformed, uneducated, mentally deficient liberals...the South was INVADED by Mr. Lincoln when they wouldn't continue to do as he pleased. Remember all...the States created the Fed - not the other way around. The South was dead wrong about slavery - right on about the monster called the federal government. History repeating itself now? Your "religious" comments are also foolish and show your agenda. I bet not one of you elitist obama kool-aid marxists are even VA natives. Go home and shut up about our governor.

Posted by: RedStateDave | April 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

That's not true davey. To be precise, you're a liar.

The rebs attacked the United States military base at Fort Sumner SC in a brazen display of treason to cover up their shameful practices (from slavery to incest). The US legitimately responded to this terrorist attack, just as they did after 9/11, by hunting down/ neutralizing the dirt bags responsible.

And we kicked you butts real good, didn't we? Losers. You Little Lord Fauntleroys pranced and flounced and lost 'cause you have no more guts than brains.

May god bless Pickett. That's a Southern leader a Yankee could get to like.


I'll bet not one of you Nazi-loving VA natives/parasites/tobacco farmers is- or ever will be- considered "intellectually elite". Call liberals names; we don't give a sh*t. You'll still be just dopey, back-water clowns.

I've been to Virginia. With very very few exceptions, the food is lousy and the best jobs are sucking up to tourists or sucking off the federal government: army, navy, marines, FBI, CIA, defense contractor, homeland security (there's a laugh. You ever see any of those folks at work?) etc. What a way to make a living!

British COLONIES created the Federal government. There were no states before the fed existed.

Virginians didn't p&w about the federal government as long as they were running it, did they? Washington, Jefferson, etc., etc.


Wanna swap another shot davey? I'll catch every one of your lies, and expose them and you for what they and you are.

PS. Davey, My education was way better than yours. I didn't go to school in Virginia.

Posted by: law1946 | April 6, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Ulysses Grant, the General of the NORTHERN ARMY that still owned slaves AFTER the war was over was just one of many NORTHERNERS that owned slaves. The war had NOTHING to do with slavery and had everything to do with a state's right to seceed which was and is still constitutional. Read it! And read a REAL history book sometimes and you might realize how truly uneducated you are. The South was right to do what it did. Racism was a NATIONAL problem NOT a southern problem.

Posted by: sloganboards | April 6, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

lets start with i live in louisiana all the negativity i`m hearing is from people that knows nothing about southern history oh i forgot northern schools only tell you want they want you to know about the south for one the largest slave owner in louisiana was a black man they dont tell you that do they . they also dont tell you that their were black confederate troops thet volunteered on their own .boy is that a shocker and that these black armies were given their freedom by the south not the north and stayed on their own will .bet you wont find that in a northern school book ,the confederate armies had nothing to do with slavery it was it was lincolns greed that started the civil war . southern people not military fighting to protect their rights and yes black included . there is a book for people to read to find out the truth about what happen called the south was right .backed by letters written by your beloved ab Lincoln witch was never the president of the south, jefferson davis was . so before you open your mouth about what you dont know read the book, if not keep the iq of a garbage can

Posted by: rmwhpr68 | April 6, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

First, my previous comment regarding the tourists was meant to be ironic, but obviously my attempt failed. So, here's another try.

I invite you to visit the state's website www.virginiacivilwar.org which was created as part of Virginia's commemoration (not celebration) of the upcoming Civil War sesquicentennial. Perhaps you'll find it interesting that the 2010 signature conference is on "Race, Slavery and the Civil War: The Tough Stuff of American History and Memory". You'll also find a searchable Civil War encyclopedia, created by the Virginia Foundation for the Humanities, which should prove invaluable for fact checking before posting your comments. (And, by the way, the planning, funding, and implementation of the commemoration began under a Democratic governor...).

Many professionals and volunteers have worked diligently for the past three years to frame the sesquicentennial as an opportunity to educate the public, create thoughtful discourse, and encourage tourism in the Commonwealth. It's abundantly clear from reading the posts that we have much work to be done, and the Governor's proclamation may serve to undo much of what we've accomplished.

Posted by: goosecrick1 | April 6, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

markvacc1,

The Revolution was fought over the principle of "taxation without representation".

The South had disproportionate representation in the U.S. government and disproportionate influence due to factors like the 3-5th's clause. It was no accident that Virginia was home to so many of the early presidents.

Yet, when Lincoln was elected -- before the man was even inaugurated -- they bolted. They could not accept the OUTCOME of an election in which THEY HAD A VOTE.

They bolted without even attempting to broker a compromise before Lincoln even passed his first act as president.

The state's right business was fundamentally about slavery. There's no way around it.

Posted by: JPRS | April 6, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

For the uneducated morons that posted here; Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and the south was composed of Democrats. Here is a little history,"In 1876 white Democrats regained power in most of the state legislatures. They began to pass laws designed to strip African Americans and poor whites from the voter registration rolls. The success of late-19th century interracial coalitions in several states made white Democrats work harder to prevent both groups from voting." and "In the first decades after Reconstruction, when white Democrats regained power in the state legislatures, they began to make voter registration more complicated, to reduce black voting. With a combination of intimidation, fraud and violence by paramilitary groups, they turned Republicans out of office and suppressed black voting. From 1890 to 1908, ten of eleven states ratified new constitutions or amendments that effectively disfranchised most black voters and many poor white voters. This disfranchisement persisted for six decades into the 20th century, depriving blacks and poor whites of all political representation. Because they could not vote, they could not sit on juries. They had no one to represent their interests, resulting in state legislatures consistently underfunding programs and services, such as schools, for blacks and poor whites." and more "From 1890 to 1908, white Democrats in legislatures passed new disfranchising constitutions that completed provisions for making voter registration and voting more difficult. Most blacks and many poor whites were disfranchised, a condition which the state legislatures maintained for six decades into the 20th century. The leading white demagogue was Senator Benjamin Tillman of South Carolina, who proudly proclaimed in 1900, 'We have done our level best [to prevent blacks from voting]... we have scratched our heads to find out how we could eliminate the last one of them. We stuffed ballot boxes. We shot them. We are not ashamed of it.'"

Posted by: history1999 | April 6, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

A great Virginian just like TJ

Posted by: virginiafan2002 | April 6, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's cut the nonsense folks --- there is one reason and one reason alone that Governor Norbert Robertson McDonnell passed this "charged" proclamation. It is to pander to the generally right wing, tea-bag, lily-white, anti-Federal government crowd. The same folks who joined in the laughter of another southern idiot-governor with his racist macaacaa moment are the very same crowd who have pushed this proclamation annually for a decade. And before all of you lily-white, teab-bag, anti Federal government states rights, minority dissing folks get in a tizzy or lather --- save your breath and your feigned indignation --- I have heard it for decades and no amount of explanation changes the fact.

Posted by: army164 | April 6, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, nothing new here....just a bunch of people spouting off about a war they know nothing about. The War of Northern Aggression was just about slavery.....HOGWASH!! If you people would read history, Southern history, maybe you might understand why Southerners left their families and homes to fight an out-of-control federal gov't(sound familiar?).
Learn your history before you lockdown and throw all of us Southerners into the same slime pit with the scumbag Klanners and racists.
You probably don't even know there were slaves still in the north that weren't freed until the late 1860s. Grant didn't free his slaves until 1868, but yet all the slaves were immediately freed in the South in 1863 after Lincoln read his Emancipation Proclamation. But the war was just about slavery.....almost 700,000 Americans, north and south, died fighting for what they believed in.....don't minimize their sacrifice....they were all Americans.
Ask yourself.....What are your core values and beliefs....Would YOU be willing to fight and Die for them???

Posted by: SKS1 | April 6, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Both white and blacks died on both sides. Give it a rest. The Civil War was not just about slavery, it was about states rights and other issues as well. Go back and read the history of the war. Our founding fathers would be turning in thiers graves over this.

Posted by: aehoover2000 | April 6, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Both white and blacks died on both sides. Give it a rest. The Civil War was not just about slavery, it was about states rights and other issues as well. Go back and read the history of the war. Our founding fathers would be turning in thiers graves over this.

Posted by: aehoover2000 | April 6, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Those of you posting racial comments about the south standing for slavery show your true lack of education. It was NORTHERN ships that brung slaves over. It was the North that begun the slave trade in America and it was the NORTH that still owned slaves even after the war was over. Don't believe it? Just read about Ulysses Grant, the General over the ENTIRE NORTHERN ARMY THAT REFUSED TO LET HIS 3 SLAVES GO FREE! You folks have this thing all twisted. Do some research before posting you poor useless fools.

Posted by: sloganboards | April 6, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

They "brung"? Who is this illiterate idiot?

The US slave trade began in Jamestown VA in 1619 with the sale of about 20 African prisoners to English "colonists".

Do some research before trying to lie, unconvincingly, you poor, stupid fool.

Name one Northern ship that participated in the slave trade. There may be some. I'll show you 1000 scum bag rebs who preyed on harmless, inoffensive people only because they were dark complected.

I think that is revulsive beyond words.

Posted by: law1946 | April 6, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

one other thing the war wasnt even over slavery . the south was producing more money because of the ports and textiles . the south had more guts to go against fed gov. than the north a bunch kids that had to have the gov hold their hand .and things hadnt changed south still generates portion of the fed govs money with the same ports and textiles they maybe selling the stocks , and making jobs in the north but the next time you put on a pair of jeans or a shirt or eat why dont you find out where this all comes from i promise you a large percentage comes from the south , those from the north , the next time you open your mouth make sure you measure your over priced iq by the foot you have in your mouth

Posted by: rmwhpr68 | April 6, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

States rights were the only cause of the Civil War. The north shapped the whole thing into something it wasn't.

Posted by: virginiafan2002 | April 6, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

"Ok somebody needs to sign a proclamation with national press included, bands playing, american flags waving declaring UNION MONTH! Posted by: MILLER123"

WHATEVER!!!

Either a month for all or none for any! Many grin and bear "months" we despise as politically correct and revisionist. Take the carpet-bagger intellect too many are showing and get the h--- out if you do not like the equal billing.

To the victors go the right to write history and the history taught in our schools (funny, as if something is being taught...) panders to a group of misfits more interested in American Idol or the latest awards show or the recent hurt feelings of a sexual deviant than in the sad state of affairs in what was once a great REPUBLIC (look it up!).

The state of this nation is depraved and a lot of the problem can be laid at the feet of our federal government getting way out of hand and controlling so much more than they are LEGALLY allowed to do, IF you believe in the piece of paper on which is written the Constitution of these United States.

Hey, look up the Tenth Amendment ... all about States Rights.

Slavery is wrong, whether it be racial, sexual or whatever. The South would have grappled with it's own devil over the issue (would the northern states?). As long as Yankee Clippers (from Boston and New York) could trade with BLACK peddlers of their own neighboring tribes, it was okay? As long as the Southern cotton and agriculture could be processed and marketed internationally by the northern enterprises, slavery was okay?

Hyprocisy!

We can all stand to grow up a bit, but you cannot dispute something you know little about (go study...). As I said originally, "Either a month for all or none for any.

God Bless this Nation, because we sure need it.

Amen hoss37tt...

Posted by: texasbrown | April 6, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Its so funny you folks bash the South for our way of living and thinking. I say good job Gov McDonnell for taking a stand to preserve your states past present and future. Sure these were times that were very touchy between the Northern and Southern states but you morons who keep calling hem a idiot republican have obviously no clue to the facts. The south was led into this by democrats and the north by a republican. And heck yea I would gladly take my child to learn about everything there is to know what led to it and what was the outcome. If we dont learn from our past then were bound to make the same mistakes.

Posted by: royv | April 6, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

If any of you even had the slightest knowledge of real history and not the garbage that was taught in Public Education you'd know what the civil war was about.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."

Abraham Lincoln; First inaugural address.


Learn about history and stop insulting people.

We aren't 'hillbillies' but apparently the majority of you have no sense of decorum or even a leg to stand on with any reasonable position to debate from as all you can do is hurl invectives.

But, if we must go this route, the majority of you seem to be nothing more than a bunch of uneducated ignoramuses that deserve neither consideration nor acknowledgment as your opinions clearly show a lack of intelligence and understanding of the issue. You are governed by emotion only and completely devoid of any ability for an objective analysis of an issue.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln

Most of you should adhere to this principle.

Posted by: WarLord229 | April 6, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick and tired of this political game everyone is playing!!! Grow up!!! All because you find one racist in the Republican party doesnt make the party racist. All because you have one stoner Democrat doesnt mean they are all stoners. Get past the party lines and look at people as individuals, not for the party they vote for.

As for this article, I don't agree with racism one bit!!!! I served with some amazing men and women black and white, and believe they all deserve respect. Same goes for the confederate soldiers!!! They got involved in a war (sometimes against their own will FYI) defending their fellow country men and their families.They deserve respect.
I served in Iraq and had 20+ friends killed in the line of combat and I absolutely hate the insurgents that did this. But I will never give them anything less then my respect. They are fighting for what they believe whether it is wrong or not.

"The men of both Lee's and Johnston's armies were, like their brethren of the North, as brave as men can be." Ulysses S. Grant, 1865.

Posted by: ba9041 | April 6, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I am so sick and tired of this political game everyone is playing!!! Grow up!!! All because you find one racist in the Republican party doesnt make the party racist. All because you have one stoner Democrat doesnt mean they are all stoners. Get past the party lines and look at people as individuals, not for the party they vote for.

As for this article, I don't agree with racism one bit!!!! I served with some amazing men and women black and white, and believe they all deserve respect. Same goes for the confederate soldiers!!! They got involved in a war (sometimes against their own will FYI) defending their fellow country men and their families.They deserve respect.
I served in Iraq and had 20+ friends killed in the line of combat and I absolutely hate the insurgents that did this. But I will never give them anything less then my respect. They are fighting for what they believe whether it is wrong or not.

"The men of both Lee's and Johnston's armies were, like their brethren of the North, as brave as men can be." Ulysses S. Grant, 1865.

Posted by: ba9041 | April 6, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I am PROUD to be a southerner, I am PROUD to be a Virginian. It is funny that most yankees have no pride in anything. They hate anyone who differs from their views. They hate this country, they hate their state, and they mostly hate where they live. Could it be that they are the real haters. They hate anyone who has a decent life because they have made such a total mess of theirs!

Posted by: blackwater-ken | April 6, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

"States rights" was the nominal cause of the Civil War. Preservation of slavery was the reality behind that invocation.

Saying that it was about states rights, is a little like saying that the 3-5th's clause was "just about states rights" or that the Missouri Compromise was "just about states rights".

It's kind of like saying that the Revolutionary War was just about "taxation" while forgetting that bit about "representation".

Posted by: JPRS | April 7, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

thank god for real patriots Lee, Jackson, Stuart, Longstreet, Hood, Washington, TJ Moseby.

Posted by: virginiafan2002 | April 7, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

This may come as a shock to all you fans of the Confederacy who think that the war wasn't about slavery. The Vice-President of the CSA, Alexander Stephens, had this to say in 1861, in his famous "Cornerstone" speech:

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76

Posted by: pjkiger1 | April 7, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

hey ozpunk,where can i get one of those general lee hood decals.

Posted by: ginguskan | April 7, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

So we can have Black History Month, but we can't have a month representing the events that even made black history possible? I see no problem in allowing the history of our country to be recognized. Congratulations to Gov. McDonnell for giving these ignorant people a good punch in the gut.

Posted by: stickboy142 | April 7, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

So we can have Black History Month, but we can't have a month representing the events that even made black history possible? I see no problem in allowing the history of our country to be recognized. Congratulations to Gov. McDonnell for giving these ignorant people a good punch in the gut.

Posted by: stickboy142 | April 7, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

I am PROUD to be a southerner, I am PROUD to be a Virginian. It is funny that most yankees have no pride in anything. They hate anyone who differs from their views. They hate this country, they hate their state, and they mostly hate where they live. Could it be that they are the real haters. They hate anyone who has a decent life because they have made such a total mess of theirs!

Posted by: blackwater-ken

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Yankees didn't try to break a binding agreement just because they lost an election.

If anything remains true to this day: Southerners value cheap labor above liberty itself.

Posted by: JPRS | April 7, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

"Constitutional Problems under Lincoln," James G. Randall, 1951, Urbana: University of Illinois Press:

"Among the unconstitutional and dictatorial acts performed by Lincoln were initiating and conducting a war by decree for months without the consent or advice of Congress; declaring martial law; confiscating private property; suspending habeas corpus; conscripting the railroads and censoring telegraph lines; imprisoning as many as 30,000 Northern citizens without trial; deporting a member of Congress, Clement L. Vallandigham of Ohio, after Vallandigham - a fierce opponent of the Morrill tariff -- protested imposition of an income tax at a Democratic Party meeting in Ohio; and shutting down hundreds of Northern newspapers."

Posted by: SKS1 | April 7, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I am PROUD to be a southerner, I am PROUD to be a Virginian. It is funny that most yankees have no pride in anything. They hate anyone who differs from their views. They hate this country, they hate their state, and they mostly hate where they live. Could it be that they are the real haters. They hate anyone who has a decent life because they have made such a total mess of theirs!

Posted by: blackwater-ken | April 7, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

JPRS What does your comment have to do with anything current?

Posted by: blackwater-ken | April 7, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

What exactly will Virginians be celebrating during "Confederate Month"?

Even Robert E. Lee never looked back. And he was there! When it was over, Gen. Lee knew the Confederacy was a mistake, a failure waiting to happen. He knew that secession would have been a total and complete disaster. Nothing at all to celebrate, only to forget and move on.

State pride is a great thing, and Virginians have much in which to be proud. Virginians have been involved in every important event of American history.

But there is absolutely nothing to celebrate about the Confederacy. Even in Virginia.

Posted by: Russ139 | April 7, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

stickboy142,

The Confederates weren't abolitionists.

It is true though that without the Civil War, slavery probably would have endured for a longer. So in that sense, we can appreciate the holiday as a celebration of the limits of human stupidity.

Even when the South formed its own government, it was completely dysfunctional, most of Davis's cabinet officials had no authority or responsibility, the legislature quickly devolved into infighting. Meanwhile the U.S. Congress sans Southern states made 60 years of progress in the span of 4 years. Perhaps there is a lesson there for all Americans.

Posted by: JPRS | April 7, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I believe that the Governor McDonnell would have done better to proclaim April 2010 as Civil War History Month.

Although much of Virginian history of that time period was based around the Confederacy, they have since returned to being a faithful state of the Union, and their point of view should reflect that.

I agree that that period should be studied, including the reasons that Virginia decided to secede and the efforts of the Confederacy. However, the proposition to study the time period should indicate a more general, unbiased point of view to avoid conflict with those who are still fighting a war their great-grandparents finished a century and a half ago.

As a note to those who are still combating the perceived injustices of the Confederacy, the majority of those attempting to secede from the Union were not slaveholders. They had no particular vendetta against blacks nor held for white supremacy at all costs. You are emphasizing extremes illogically.

Open to debate, I can be informed of the perceived mistakes of my narrative at
torquestone@yahoo.com

Demosthenes-Torque

Posted by: demosthenes_torque | April 7, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

The "Granny" character on BEVERLY HILLBILLIES, all too accurately represents the views of many southerners. They idolize the south, the war between the states and all things southern. Even if it does represent the right to own another man, that seems to be forgotten. It's been re-spun into "war of states rights" A nice way to say. If you want to own another man and your state supports it, go for it. That show was made 40 years ago and little has changed in parts of the south.
I lived around Memphis for 8 years,in the 80's. I moved north, someone actually told me I was going to work for the Yankees. That's just crazy.
Southerners have this weird admiration of Robert E Lee, a good General, who choose the wrote side.
I already know that the North was full of racism and segregated all through the 1950's. That not quite as bad as saying you put people in your tool shed like they are tools.

It certainly is odd that the party of Lincoln now supports Confederates right to own another man or as they call it "states rights"

Posted by: dsan102 | April 7, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

As someone who has lived in both the south and the north and now out west, ya'll need to chill. This isn't about North and South its about doing what is right. If what he wanted to do was try and bring some tourism in and honor the history, that's great; but call it something that's not going to be such an obviously controversial thing.

Call it Civil War History month or something. Either the good Gov. is actually pro secession and segregation and knowingly chose to go with this title out of pride and/or arrogance or he and his staff are just ignorant and insensitive to think that it wouldn't be offensive to a whole lot of people. Of course they all could just be complete morons too.

Any way you cut it, this seems like a completely unnecessary situation that would have been avoided if someone was thinking about the consequences of their actions. Which is so disappointing in itself.

Posted by: gear2575 | April 7, 2010 12:27 AM | Report abuse

I believe that all men were created equal and deserve equal respect, but if u are going to have black history month you should be able to celebrate history of all races including whites and face it people the confederacy is a part of that. I am also proud to be a southern woman because i love my state of Tennessee and would not want to live anywhere else. When i fly a rebel flag it is not out of hate but pride, and heritage. If people would just think without hate they would see that this is common sense.

Posted by: emmyanne021484 | April 7, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

I think if i see the word hillbilly on here one more time I will lose my mind. What is wrong with people that is racism right there. There is more to being racist than being againts African Americans you are being racist against southern people.I have family in all parts of the country we get together once a year Yankees and Hillbillys alike and yes we have differences but that is ok.

Posted by: emmyanne021484 | April 7, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Wow, what another dumb month theme. I believe that this country should get rid of the women and black history months now. Don't think me a racist or a sexist, because I am a black woman. The great achievements of every race and gender should be celebrated all throughout the year. Splitting the greatest accomplishments of this country into months is ridicules and I believe it should be stopped.

Posted by: sickofBS1 | April 7, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Im proud to be from Virginia. Virginia has produced many of the finest Americans. These people ranting about Virginian Hillbillies, Racists and Rednecks show their true upbringing by using slurs to attempt to prove their point. Funny, the same person who calls Virginia's governor a racist, proclaims Virginians as Teabaggers ( a slur similar to calling a black a "N"). Look in the mirror, you may be the Racist. The Governor has shown true Virginian Grit by honoring those who fought proudly for the South.

Posted by: rh2010 | April 7, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

"We should have freed the slaves...and then seceded from the Union"
CSA General James Longstreet 1865

Most Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. If you would have asked the average soldier why he was fighting, The Yank would have said "To preserve the Union" The Reb would have said "To preserve States Rights". Lincoln didn't free the slaves until after three years of fighting, and dying by both sides including Bull Run 1 & 2 and Antietam. He articulated several times that to preserve the union he would be happy to allow slavery. It was only when the British began considering assisting the South that Lincoln made Slavery the moral issue of the war with the Emancipation Proclaimation. Of course, without the declaration of Confederate History Month most of you would reading this would have never known that!

Posted by: jimgreen8c | April 7, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

"We should have freed the slaves...and then seceded from the Union"
CSA General James Longstreet 1865

Most Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. If you would have asked the average soldier why he was fighting, The Yank would have said "To preserve the Union" The Reb would have said "To preserve States Rights". Lincoln didn't free the slaves until after three years of fighting, and dying by both sides including Bull Run 1 & 2 and Antietam. He articulated several times that to preserve the union he would be happy to allow slavery. It was only when the British began considering assisting the South that Lincoln made Slavery the moral issue of the war with the Emancipation Proclaimation. Of course, without the declaration of Confederate History Month most of you would reading this would have never known that!

Posted by: jimgreen8c | April 7, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Next up - McDonald implements job program (see master's thesis) by making women get married, stay at home and tend to their husband and kids.
Can you say Macaca?

Posted by: Questioner1 | April 7, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

"We should have freed the slaves...and then seceded from the Union"
CSA General James Longstreet 1865

Most Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves. If you would have asked the average soldier why he was fighting, The Yank would have said "To preserve the Union" The Reb would have said "To preserve States Rights". Lincoln didn't free the slaves until after three years of fighting, and dying by both sides including Bull Run 1 & 2 and Antietam. He articulated several times that to preserve the union he would be happy to allow slavery. It was only when the British began considering assisting the South that Lincoln made Slavery the moral issue of the war with the Emancipation Proclaimation. Of course, without the declaration of Confederate History Month most of you would reading this would have never known that!

Posted by: jimgreen8c | April 7, 2010 12:56 AM | Report abuse

"This war is not about slavery'”
Robert E. Lee

Lee on Reconstruction:

"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory,
there would have been no surrender at
Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in my right hand."

Posted by: SKS1 | April 7, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

For the coming 150th anniversary of the Civil War, Americans need to commemorate the war, not celebrate the Confederacy.

Posted by: gene7 | April 7, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

FACE IT! History happens. Whether a person's ancestors fought for the North or South is irrelevant. The fact is a war happened, and it wasn't just about slavery. Slavery was thrown in the mix to stir people up, as hard as that is to hear. As a matter of fact, some people don't seem to realize that people in the north had slaves too. INDEED THEY DID! We have Black History month, and United Negro College Fund, but we don't have "Native American Month" or United Native American College Fund" or "White History Month" or United White College Fund" or Russian, or Italian, or anything like that. HISTORY HAPPENS! STUDY IT, SEE WHAT HAPPENED!
While slavery is a very bad thing, and I do not approve of it, slavery didn't ORIGINATE in the United States in our history. EVERY group of people has been enslaved by another group of people on this planet we call HOME at some time or other. Slavery is alive and prospering in parts or our world today. It's a very harsh reality, but it's true.

Posted by: arkahoman | April 7, 2010 1:07 AM | Report abuse

SKS1, source your quote by Lee.

Posted by: gene7 | April 7, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

150th Anniversary of the "War of Nothern Aggression".

The wasn't anything civil obout that war.

The South wanted to be left alone -- it was the north who invaded the South.

Posted by: SKS1 | April 7, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

FACE IT! History happens.Whether a person's ancestors fought for the North or South is irrelevant. The fact is a war happened, and it wasn't just about slavery. Slavery was thrown in to stir people up, as hard as that is to hear. As a matter of fact, some people in the North had slaves too. INDEED THEY DID!
We have Black History Month and United Negro College Fund, but we don't have United Native American Month or Native American College Fund or White or Russian, or Italian, etc. That seems racist to me.
HISTORY HAPPENS! STUDY IT, SEE WHAT HAPPENED!

Posted by: arkahoman | April 7, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

blackwater-ken,

You only have to look at the recent news in West Virginia. Who did Massey Energy give 97 percent of its political money to over the past 15 years. Who willingly accepted that money in exchange for doing nothing to protect the lives of ordinary workers.

When it comes to Big Business, who poured money into the political campaigns in the Virginia gubernatorial race last year and who received most of that money.

To this day the GOP talks about "liberty" and "freedom" probably more than any other political party in recent history. Yet, it only seems to mean the "liberty" and "freedom" of the rich and powerful to do whatever they please with everyone else.

When you get down to what they actually do, their actions say that they value cheap labor more than liberty itself. Words are cheap, actions reveal what people really value.

Posted by: JPRS | April 7, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

FACE IT! History happens.Whether a person's ancestors fought for the North or South is irrelevant. The fact is a war happened, and it wasn't just about slavery. Slavery was thrown in to stir people up, as hard as that is to hear. As a matter of fact, some people in the North had slaves too. INDEED THEY DID!
We have Black History Month and United Negro College Fund, but we don't have United Native American Month or Native American College Fund or White or Russian, or Italian, etc. That seems racist to me.
HISTORY HAPPENS! STUDY IT, SEE WHAT HAPPENED!

Posted by: arkahoman | April 7, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Here ya go gene7:

Lee attended a meeting of ex-Confederates in 1870, during which he expressed regrets about his surrender at Appomattox Court House, given the effects of Republican Reconstruction policy on the South. Speaking to former Confederate Governor of Texas, Fletcher Stockdale, he said:

Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people [Yankees] designed to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me. Had I foreseen these results of subjugation, I would have preferred to die at Appomattox with my brave men, my sword in my right hand.[54]

Posted by: SKS1 | April 7, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

SKS1, I found your quote in, "The Life and Letters of Robert Lewis Dabney, pp. 497-500" It seems out of character from anything I have ever read that Lee wrote in the Official Records.

Posted by: gene7 | April 7, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Sorry to inform everyone, but remembering a part of history is not considered racist. The Confederate soldiers were fighting for more than to prolong slavery. The Civil War is an example of Americans standing up for what they believed was a violation of their states rights, the right to govern themselves.

If he honors the Confederacy, he is honoring southern heritage and a culture of an old way of life, a simpler way of life, that did not exist in the north. I honestly believe he has no intentions of honoring slavery. It is a shame that people have become so sensitive that anything that references history is offensive. If the a confederate month is offensive, then why isn't a black history month? If we truly want equal rights shouldn't we not single any one group out?

Posted by: mrh2f | April 7, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Sorry to inform everyone, but remembering a part of history is not considered racist. The Confederate soldiers were fighting for more than to prolong slavery. The Civil War is an example of Americans standing up for what they believed was a violation of their states rights, the right to govern themselves.

If he honors the Confederacy, he is honoring southern heritage and a culture of an old way of life, a simpler way of life, that did not exist in the north. I honestly believe he has no intentions of honoring slavery. It is a shame that people have become so sensitive that anything that references history is offensive. If the a confederate month is offensive, then why isn't a black history month? If we truly want equal rights shouldn't we not single any one group out?

Posted by: mrh2f | April 7, 2010 1:24 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Virginian so I guess I'm a hillbilly? Oh...ok...I didn't know that. Anyways, I'm not a racist..but I get so tired of reading things like this. If it isn't something giving gays or minorities more rights or celebrating their beliefs, it gets dumped on. This country is so messed up. I'm 30 years old, and it's not even the same place it was I can remember from my youth. The average caucasion American is being tossed in the gutter.

Posted by: kicker456 | April 7, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Virginian so I guess I'm a hillbilly? Oh...ok...I didn't know that. Anyways, I'm not a racist..but I get so tired of reading things like this. If it isn't something giving gays or minorities more rights or celebrating their beliefs, it gets dumped on. This country is so messed up. I'm 30 years old, and it's not even the same place it was I can remember from my youth. The average caucasion American is being tossed in the gutter.

Posted by: kicker456 | April 7, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

As a former resident of Virginia, I was appalled to learn that Martin Luther King, Jr. had to share the day of his remembrance with none other than Robert E. Lee, and Andrew Jackson, on a day Virginians call "Lee-Jackson-King Day." Perhaps this move will give that day back to Reverend King and allow all those who daily salute the statue of Robert E Lee on Monument Ave in Richmond a way to celebrate their ancestry.

Posted by: robpatt | April 7, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

I don't think it was out of character for Lee at all. Once he heard of the atrocities the union troops were doing to Southerners during Reconstruction -- I believe he would have said it.

Read some of his quotes he and Jackson made after the Battle of Marye's Heights and the destruction that Burnside's men did to Fredericksburg. Stonewall wanted to "kill them all".

Posted by: SKS1 | April 7, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Hey, HISTORY HAPPENS! This is about history not slavery.
If it was about slavery, I would say that it didn't originate here in the U.S. Every group of people has been enslaved by another group of people at some time on this earth. It still happens today! People in both the North and South had slaves. While slavery isn't good, it happened, it's part of our history just like the Civil War was. STUDY HISTORY! LEARN FROM IT AND KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!

Posted by: arkahoman | April 7, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

SKS1

Good point about the south wanting to be left alone. In fact, the south had an opportunity to finish the war shortly after it started at the first Bull Run. After the south defeated the north, the south had an open path to DC (Just 25 miles away), but since the south didn't want to invade and only be left alone, they had no desire to move onto DC.

It's a shame really. Maybe if the south had formed their own nation we wouldn't be buried by these massive deficets and debts.

Posted by: mrh2f | April 7, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Robpatt;

That is Robert E. Lee and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson!!

Ol' Hickory was a little before plus contributed to problem of pre-War of Northern Aggression by passing the Bill of Abomination in 1829.

Posted by: SKS1 | April 7, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

I believe that most of the negative responses to this article are made by those whom are of black ancestors. But these people must not realize that many of the people living in the Southern ( Confederate ) States, were a huge contributing factor in hiding and sneaking the slaves out from their owners into the North to be free. All of this is a part of American History! Most do not know true American history, just what the racist black people tell offspring. Just as Obama's preacher preaches to his church about hate and racist words towards White people. A false church, false people, not even close to Christianity just as the president himself. America just needs a better educational system, and history months such as black history month should be instated as with a such thing as White history month and Confederate month! Maybe one day also an American Chinese month too!!

Posted by: TiffChong | April 7, 2010 1:44 AM | Report abuse

It's a shame really. Maybe if the south had formed their own nation we wouldn't be buried by these massive deficits and debts.

Posted by: mrh2f
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ABSOLUTELY -- we wouldn't have the problems with Mexico, the Carribbean and S. America either -- that would have all been part of the Confederacy!!
See if the yanks bite on that one.

The US wouldn't have been able to exist without the South. Its massive war debt to previous wars -- that is why the US triple taxed the South to repay that debt.

Posted by: SKS1 | April 7, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

The truth finally comes out. the TeaBaggers have just been feigning allegiance to the USA. Take a look at the TeaBagger rallies and look at one of a KKK rally in DC from the '20s when they had 2 million registered members and you be the judge. This same 99% White, anti-tax, exurban/rural crowd has morphed more times than the AIDS virus and Swine Flu combined. This ain't rocket science, people.

Posted by: jfff7773 | April 7, 2010 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Everybody who gives Lincoln a pat on the back for freeing slaves needs to investigate some more. He wanted to free the slaves, but did not want them to live in America. He wanted to ship them back to their homelands, but could not find the funds to do so. Since he could not come up with the funds to send them away, he felt that they should live their lives as inferior citizens, much like they did following the war. He did not intend for the freed slaves to ever have equal rights. It's funny because the whole world thinks the war was about slavery, and praise Lincoln for freeing slaves, when he didn't think of them as people who should be given the freedoms of white Americans.

Posted by: swhughes | April 7, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

jimgreen8c,

It would be accurate to say that the Civil War wasn't initially about the emancipation of slaves.

That doesn't mean that the war wasn't still about slavery.

Slavery was the central issue of the 1860 presidential campaign. It was an issue that had increasingly dominated politics in the U.S. in the period before Lincoln's election.

The southern states did not secede because of some "states rights" issue centering around tariffs and trade policy, or women's suffrage. They left the minute that a card carrying abolitionist won election.

Longstreet's insight offers an interesting counter-factual, but the reality is that the South did not free the slaves -- even when some of the military leaders like Patrick Cleburne suggested as much in order to bolster the war effort, his suggestion was roundly rebuffed. Even with the conclusion of the war, vestiges of slavery persisted in the south for over 100 more years.

In the mind of an ordinary soldier slavery might not have been the central issue; however, in the minds of the major political leaders, it was clearly the central issue. The political leaders drove the debate. The handful of large plantation owners in the south who enjoyed substantial economic and political advantages thanks to the "peculiar institution" weren't going to simply forego those advantages unless they were compelled to forego those advantages.

Posted by: JPRS | April 7, 2010 2:17 AM | Report abuse

What people fail to take in to account that before the Civil War, the South actually wanted to expand slavery, Pro-Slavery forces made trouble in Kansas because they they voted against slavery and Illinois where they tried to be allowed to keep slaves even though slavery was illegal.
how many Southern non-slave owning men died for the Southern slave owing aristocracy?
It's been mentioned earlier but the South did attack Federal forces first.
Even during the Civil war, the South was hardly united, desertion was common place, many of them ending up in Jones County Mississippi (thus the mythical Free state of Jones).
People also seem to forget atrocities committed by Confederate Soldiers (Andersonville and the murder of Union African-American soldiers at Ft. Pillow)
Finally, the assertion that the Civil was was about "States Rights" is only partially right, the Southern States wanted the right to own another human being.
Sorry for the somewhat rambling and random post.

Posted by: DokterQ | April 7, 2010 2:52 AM | Report abuse

One addendum,
at one point, Southerners actually went into Non-Slave States to kidnap free African-Americans to bring back as slaves

Posted by: DokterQ | April 7, 2010 3:06 AM | Report abuse

I think it’s funny, that as soon as some mentions the confederacy, then names like the KKK and Nazi’s are thrown around. Does anyone read history books anymore? Slavery was happening on BOTH the UNION and CONFEDARTE states. This war was not just a war about slavery, but more about money. Each side of the war had its share of horrible acts, See Sherman’s March. Learn your history before you start judging.

Posted by: Getyourfaxstraight |

I am a Virginian and I am PROUD of our Governor to have the backbone to stand up and proclaim this even though it is not "politically correct". If everyone would read and study the actual history instead of being so racist, all these comments would not be made. No one is more racist that the ones doing the name calling and back-biting. It is time for us to stand up and be proud of our heritage.

Posted by: oneryone | April 7, 2010 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Let's get some FACTS straight:
April has ALWAYS been Confederate History month - it is not 'new'. April 26th has ALWAYS been Confederate Memorial Day.
Lincoln did not free one slave, nor cared to. The South was AGAINST slavery and did NOT have any slavery, until it was forced on them by the north in the 1830's for the north's own finacial benefit, as the south back then was the rich nation and supported the north, who by the way, had slavery and the slave trade for 200 years BEFORE that!
The North was the true slave nation, not the south nation. Rhode Island was the slave trade capital of the WORLD ! The ONLY slave and racist flag from this hemisphere was the US Federal flag and the ONLY one that EVER flew over the slave ships. The Confederate flags are Christian flags and they stand AGAINST TYRANNY and the blacks were proud to fight under these Confederate flags of freedom. The Confederate flags are just as much their flags as any white person !
The CSA nation of states are STILL seceded and STILL their own nation, only under ILLEGAL Federal occupation. The CSA nation of states has been held prisoner in their own nation for the past 150 years by the tyrannical Federal DC north nation.
Can you take more TRUE history ?
http://home1.gte.net/carriet/TruthCivilWar.htm

Posted by: carriet1 | April 7, 2010 4:48 AM | Report abuse

By the way, the south nation did NOT attack the north as you have been force-taught to believe by the UN-Constitutional Federal govt schools. The peaceful south nation was BRUTALLY INVADED and then occupied by the north.
Neither side fought FOR slavery - slavery was not the issue, freedom, Constitution, money and states rights were the issues. The main issue was Lincoln, who did a compelete coup on the Founders real govt and REPLACED IT with his own Marxist govt in 1861, was forcing the south nation to join this NEW Federal union and they refused. The south fought for freedom and the Founders Constitution that Lincoln had trashed. Lincoln was a tyrant and a dedicated Marxist and good friends with Karl Marx all his time in office.
All the Federalist propagnada you have been taught as "history" has been lies to cover up all the Crimes the north was hiding. Teh suoth won most all the balttes adn would hvae won the war (and if they had you'd have freedom today instead of this Marxist mess we are in) but Lincoln called in his Communist mercenary friends who had just been kicked out of their countries in Europe in the 1848 revoultion, and Lincoln made them his top advisors in govt and his Generals, and ordered them to "burn the south to the ground". They did. Lincoln created the "scortched Earth policy".
Folks you have been in Marxism for 4 generations so you do not even know how to recognize it anymore. A slave born a slave does not know he is a slave since it's all he's ever known, he thinks it is "normal"; and he is trained to call it "freedom" !

All the things we are seeing today began in 1861 with Lincoln. This is still his NEW govt he established in 1861. It has not been out Founders govt since he over-threw it. You need to discover REAL TRUE history - it will shock you !

Posted by: carriet1 | April 7, 2010 5:15 AM | Report abuse

Ignorance seems to compel the that War Between the States turns this forum into a discussion of slavery, something praticed the world over and ended everywhere during the 19th century. Funny how a black man was responsible for slavery in the United States. Anthony Johnson was known as "Antonio de Negro" and was one of the first imported African indentured servants to the colonies in 1621, if memory serves. As with all of his caliber, he worked off his servitude and became a free man in his own right. He became a prosperous land owner and aquired his own indentured servants and, wanting to keep them for life, argued his case before the British courts. He won. This began 'slavery' in the colonies. Rather ironic, I'd say. You don't see this taught in schools. Yet its history, just like Lincolns' war to establish a powerful centrist government, one that we still suffer under today. I salute the South for opposing the removal of States Rights and salute Virginia for honoring those that fought to prevent cities like Atlanta from becoming exactly what they are today.

Posted by: mrbillsdog | April 7, 2010 5:26 AM | Report abuse

I have noticed that a lot of the comments here are NOT from TRUE Virginians. "Yankee blue-blood" would appear to be coursing through the veins of these "transplants." If only these so-called Virginians really understood why they should be celebrating Confederate History Month instead of spitting in the face of the very honorable men who died for Virginia in The War of Northern Aggression. What a poor, poor, lot. Even a blind man could see more than these goddamn puritanical yankee blue-coats.

Posted by: zonegray | April 7, 2010 5:46 AM | Report abuse

So is the governor going to invite his superior, the president of the united states to the celebration?
Just wondering, because to me it looks he got all his priorities and view of the world all wrong. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of his constituents are stuck with him and some even applaud him in his lunacy.

Posted by: biglio | April 7, 2010 6:07 AM | Report abuse

Well, I am torn on this issue. But I do see how African Americans would be offended. I am from Georgia. As much as we would like to think its not true, without slavery their is no civil war. Really state rights and taxes is not enough to kill 600,000 Americans. And really what state rights are we talking about. The truth is most white Southerns are angry over the lose even to this day. But this is a backlash to Affirmative Action and other programs, their really is a white under class that know one cares about.

Posted by: westctwarlords | April 7, 2010 6:25 AM | Report abuse

President Andrew Jackson, agreeing with Webster, denounced nullification as treason and asked Congress for authority to use the army and the navy to enforce the laws. Though the nullificationists had sympathizers in other Southern states, not one of those states officially endorsed the South Carolina stand. Calhoun claimed a victory for nullification when Congress passed and Jackson signed a compromise bill for gradually lowering the tariff But nullification had not really worked the way Calhoun had intended. It had not been generally accepted as a legitimate and constitutional procedure. Calhoun came to realize that a single state, unaided, was powerless to interpose against Federal authority. So he set about cultivating a spirit of unity among all the slave states.
Slavery, according to Calhoun, occupied a special place in the Constitution, and certainly it occupied a special place in his theory of state rights. It was, he insisted, the only kind of property that the Constitution specifically recognized (though, in fact, the document did not mention slaves or slavery by name; it referred only to "free Persons" and "all other Persons" and to a "Person held to Service or Labour"). Therefore, nullification could be used to defend or strengthen slavery but not to attack or weaken it. Calhoun strenuously objected when, after 1842, several free states tried their own brand of nullification by adopting "personal liberty" laws that forbade state authorities to assist in the enforcement of the Federal Fugitive Slave Act of 1793.
Calhoun was farther outraged when the House, though not the Senate, passed the Wilmot Proviso in 1848, which aimed to exclude slavery from all territories to be acquired in consequence of the Mexican War. Then, when the Compromise of 1850 proposed to admit California as a free state and thus to upset the balance of free and slave states, he thought the time had come for the slave states to resort to their ultimate redress, secession.
TANEY AND THE TERRITORIES. During the 1850s the doctrine of state rights became a dogma of stare powers--powers that extended beyond the boundaries of the states themselves. The development of this dogma was occasioned by the question of slavery in the territories.
Many Northerners held that Congress could exclude slavery, as it had done with respect to the Northwest Territory in the Northwest Ordinance (1787, 1789) and with respect to part of the Louisiana Purchase in the Missouri Compromise (1820--1821). Some advocated "popular sovereignty," or "squatter sovereignty," which would allow the settlers themselves to decide whether to permit slavery in a particular territory, and this principle was embodied in the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. But proslavery Southerners insisted that any prohibition of slavery in a territory, whether by Congress or by the local people, was unconstitutional.

Posted by: MarineBugler | April 7, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

SECESSION AND THE CONFEDERATE CONSTITUTION. Some advocates of secession justified it as a revolutionary right, but most of them based it on constitutional grounds. The 1860 South Carolina Declaration of the Causes of Secession quoted the states 1852 declaration, which said that "the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States," would justify the state in withdrawing from the Union. The South Carolina secession ordinance, following the procedure that Calhoun had prescribed, simply repealed the states ratification of the Constitution and subsequent amendments. The secession ordinances of other states did the same.
The Confederate Constitution proved to he somewhat inconsistent in regard to state rights. It contained no provision for secession, though its preamble averred that each Confederate state was "acting in its sovereign and independent character." One article (like the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution) affirmed that the "powers not delegated" were "reserved to the States." The states, however, were limited in important ways. For example, they could not (just as the states of the Union could not) pass any law "impairing the obligation of contracts." They could not get rid of slavery, for the citizens of each state were to "have the right of transit and sojourn in any State . . . with their slaves."
Congress was forbidden to impose duties or taxes to promote or foster any branch of industry" but in some ways was given even greater powers than the U.S. Congress. The ambiguity regarding territories and slavery was removed. The Confederacy could "acquire new territory," and Congress could "legislate" (nor merely make "rules and regulations") for the territories. In all of them "the institution of negro slavery" was to be "recognized and protected by Congress and by the territorial government." Congress could make all laws necessary and proper" for carrying out its specified powers. If this or any other clause should lead to a dispute over the constitutionality of a law, the Confederate courts (rather than state legislatures or conventions) would presumably decide the issue. This was implied by the following provision: "The judicial power shall extend to all cases arising under the Constitution."
In sum, the new Constitution was more national than the old one with regard to slavery, which it guaranteed as a nationwide institution. The document provided no more basis for nullification or secession than its predecessor had done--despite the preambles reference to the member states as "sovereign" and "independent." Nevertheless, there remained room for the reassertion of state rights in the Confederacy.

Posted by: MarineBugler | April 7, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Proslavery advocates looked to the Supreme Court for an endorsement of their new theory of state sovereignty. The Court obliged in the Dred Scott case (1857) with an obiter dictum declaring unconstitutional the Missouri Compromise prohibition of slavery in part of the Louisiana Purchase. Chief Justice Roger B. Taney said: "The Government of the United States had no right to interfere for any other purpose but that of protecting the rights of the [slave] owner."

Posted by: MarineBugler | April 7, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Excellent!
I wish I was a Virginia resident so I could vote to Keep this Gov in Office.
What a wonderful thing to have the courage to do the 'Politically incorrect thing" and make April Confederate History Month. Bravo!
Some day I hope to shake your hand in person!
For all you whiners, its time to take your heads out of the sand and look at the cause of the Civil War and look at the corrupt economy of the federal government! You may be seeing a repeat of history in the making.

Posted by: movette | April 7, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

maybe you should all look in a mirror and see what a racist looks like...read a book on the subject before you throw your stones. President Obama had a wreath laid at Arlington National Cemetery at the Confederate monument, like every President before him did.

Posted by: kber70119 | April 7, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

you all should look in a mirror to see what a racist looks like before you throw your stones..Obama had a wreath laid at Arlington National Cemetery at the Confederate memorial, just like every President has before him.

Posted by: kber70119 | April 7, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Thank the Lord for Gov. McDonnell. He correctly left out any mention of slavery because the war on the Southern States was not about slavery, but greed and power. As your own yankee General U. S. Grant said, ( paraphrased ) 'if this war is to save the black man, I will offer my sword to the other side'. Funny how the hate mongers always have a ton of rhetoric but no facts to back up their slanted views.

Posted by: rebelyonder2 | April 7, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

kber70119

And Reagan laid a wreath for Nazis. I don't see why I need to look in the mirror to see a racist, just because the President laid a wreath for traitorous scum like other Chief Executives before him. His questionable action hardly makes me racist. If it were up to me, I would disinter the remains of the Confederates at Arlington. They are a disgrace to the memory of those who died for this country. I suppose we should have sections in Arlington for Americans of German extraction who died in WWII at the service of Hitler?

Posted by: daweeni | April 7, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness in Virginia the governor only serves one term. And to all those saying that "Virginia voters" elected him, please note I am one of many who DID NOT vote for him.

Posted by: samney | April 7, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Here is one proud Southerner who cheers the proclamation by Gov. McDonnell.

I won't even respond to the shameful ignorance and bigotry in most of these comments. I commend those of you standing up for truth against them, but you're wasting your time. They haven't listened for 150 years and they won't listen now. I have fought this battle many times, and you just can't compete with the brainwashing most people have received all their lives concerning the South and American history. They will always look upon the South and its people with disdain and consider us racists and hillbillies if we don't join them in cursing our Confederate ancestors. Furthermore, any dissent by Southerners against the almighty federal government in Washington D.C. will immediately be met with the labels of "anti-American", "racist", "redneck", "extremist", etc. It is their trump card. They can't win a real debate on politics or history using facts or logic, so they must resort to the tried-and-true tactics of attacking our Southern identity.

The best thing is just to do your part to make sure your friends and family around you know the truth.

Posted by: rebel7254 | April 7, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

daweeni - you more than likely have attended schools that have revised history textbooks and have liberal-leaning teachers "teaching" history as they want you to know it. You sound like you have a lot of hate built up inside you..Once the disinterment starts, should we disinter any black Confederates and former slave-holders, too? how about the Mexican ones or Chinese ones? go read a book and learn something before you speak..

Posted by: kber70119 | April 7, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I am apalled at the prejudiced comments of most of these readers. Where are the rights of a people to celebrate their heritage? We have Black History Month, a wonderful way to celebrate contributions African-Americans made to our country. The South has equally contributed. Before you make such unsubstantiated and biased comments, try some honest research. The Confederacy was fighting for Rights guaranteed by Our Constitution. Are these rights reserved for a select few? By your thinking, our Revolutionary War heroes should be condemned as Rebels. They were also fighting for their Rights as a sovereign nation just like the Confederacy, a right included in Our Constitution. Read it!!

Posted by: dwk1043 | April 7, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I believe considering the very limited knowledge about the civil war and the confederate states shown in these comments.. before it sounded like a bad idea, and now it sounds like its needed.

Maybe its the uneducated people who don't know what the civil war was really about don't want this.. but I think just like Black History month, its a great idea to spread knowledge about a past time in America.

Anyone who is against that.. well, you know what you sound like.

Posted by: Reclaim | April 7, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

It is sad to see so many people who want to doom us all to repeating the mistakes of the past. I see nothing wrong with Confederate history month.
The reason we are doomed to repeat history is that we, at best, learn only half of it- the winners' view- and even that, over time becomes so 'politically corrected' and whitewashed it resembles nothing of the truth.
Do you think it did not take bravery to secede from the union, knowing that the south was out-manned and out-gunned 3-1 or more? Do you think there were no Confederate thinkers or heroes? Do you think mothers & fathers in the South felt any less pain when their children were maimed or killed than families in the North? Both sides fought for what they believed, committed heinous acts of barbarism, prosecuted the war with impunity- the South suffered more- more collateral damage, property damage, resource damage than the North. Two truths- the fabulous North, defenders of the almighty and unbreakable Union, with A. Lincoln, the tortured Union hero, liberator of the slaves AND the South, battered by the North at every turn, demeaned for slavery, relegated to third class status behind the blooming industry of the North, fighting for its right to exist as an equal to the North, and if not equal within the bounds of Union, then ever separate and sovereign. The war forged these truths, with the blood of 600,000, into the truth of the North, whitewashed, one-sided, doomed to be repeated- why? because the real story wasn't pretty, wasn't heroic, but could have been a powerful learning experience for future generations contemplating war as an answer to anything...if only the whole story was told. I applaud the effort.

Posted by: thinkabit | April 7, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Thank you dwk1043. This bigoted, prejudicial and narrow minded bashing of the governor and the proclamation is amazing. Where is the diversity, where is the understanding, where is the mutual respect for one another and each person's culture? Diversity is a two way street but it is apparent that those who honor and remember their Confederate or Southern Heritage are not included in this diversity.

Posted by: patriot1861 | April 7, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Those who just wish that Virginia's Confederate history and heritage would go away are welcome to move to Yankee Land. Don't let the screen door hit you in the butt on your way out, okay?

Posted by: JMosesBrowning | April 7, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Bravo to Gov. Bob McDonnell for declaring April as Confederate History Month. The honorable and brave sacrifice of that generation of southern men and women has too long gone unrecognized - their story untold. Even worse, their history made into lies. The south fought for liberty, the Constitution, and the Spirit of Independence. If only my ancestry would have fought on the side of so just and noble cause.

As to the issue of slavery, neither the south fought to preserve it, nor the north to destroy it.

Posted by: DrFranklin | April 7, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

If we could somehow harness the power of all liberal handwringing...it would solve our Nations energy demands for the next 100 years !
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I think you're mistaking ridicule and disgust for hand-wringing. There's nothing that says VA can't celebrate their history of treason and military incompetence, just as there's nothing to prevent The Union from pointing and laughing.

How about growing a thicker skin?

Posted by: antontuffnell | April 7, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

This KKK Governor shows what happens when Blacks do not go out and Vote in all Elections. Not just for President but all elections. In the county I live at southeastern Suffolk Va only 9 Blacks showed up at McDonald election out of 900 appox, the number of white people that actually voted. This is why this racist Governor got into Office.

Posted by: agripper | April 7, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I for one applaud the Governor's courage. Those of you that are "ashamed" to live in Virginia are free to pack your bags and go - we don't need you.
If all these "civil rights" groups like the NAACP had their way it would be illegal to bring up the topic of the Confederacy and discuss it like being done here right now - sounds kinda like what the Communists did during the "revolution" in Russia - rewrite history so that it says whatever you want it to say and lock away or execute those that don't agree. I suppose that the African-Americans and Indians that fought for the Confederacy were also fighting to support the enslavement of their people?

The Confederates were fighting against exactly what our Fed has become - a repressive centralist government that does not represent its people and taxes the hell out of them to only further it's own agenda to gain more power. How large of a portion of the U.S. economy is now under Federal control? The Fed has the right to dictate your health care? You pay FICA taxes into a program where you most likely will never see your money again? LOOK AROUND YOU. These are the type of things the Confederates fought against.

As far as the topic of slavery is concerned try going to http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_slav.html and educate yourself...

And as a comparison - Section 9 or both the US and CS Constitution:

USA

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

CSA

(1) The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.

This clause is an updated version of what was originally a time-sensitive article in the US constitution. The original US Section 9(1), in its euphemistic language, stated that Congress could only ban the slave trade after 1808 (and they did).

The Confederate clause 9(1) makes this ban on the slave trade permanent, though slave trading with the US is still permitted.

The Confederates were working towards the goal of abolishing slavery long before the US.

Posted by: GaryC357 | April 7, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

This is an excellent opportunity to become educated on actual history - not the whitewashed portion that is referenced. For example, it is rarely mentioned that Liberia, Africa was established as a colony to return US slaves to. The American Colonization Society (supported by Lincoln) was supported by Northerners concerned that black slaves would hurt the work opportunities of whites.
Lincoln advocated this approach right through 1864.

Research the history leading up to the war. Tariffs were a primary driver and nearly erupted in civil war several times prior to 1861.

Banking interest rates were an issue.

Study the recessions throughout the 1800's for insight into the feelings of citizens and the concerns that led to rebellion.

A key driver for the civil war was rebellion from the centralized Federal authority in ever expanding areas. History certainly repeats itself...

Slavery is wrong. There is no disputing that fact, but we all need to understand that it was just one (and arguably minor at that) issue with the South rebelling against the strong arm of the Federal government.

Posted by: tsb1 | April 7, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Sure, let's celebrate Virginia's fight against the government of the United States in the 1860's for the right to use a group of people as farm animals with NO rights whatsoever to fatten the wallets of a bunch of rich plantation owners. Go Virginia, something to be really proud of!! And to the "Sons of the Confederacy" - your ancestors were drafted into this war (as in most US wars since then)- they had little choice and history shows most were unwilling to fight this battle and die for - not state's rights- but for a bunch of rich landowners..

Posted by: jwdzzz | April 7, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Sure, let's celebrate Virginia's fight against the government of the United States in the 1860's for the right to use a group of people as farm animals with NO rights whatsoever to fatten the wallets of a bunch of rich plantation owners. Go Virginia, something to be really proud of!! And to the "Sons of the Confederacy" - your ancestors were drafted into this war (as in most US wars since then)- they had little choice and history shows most were unwilling to fight this battle and die for - not state's rights- but for a bunch of rich landowners..

Posted by: jwdzzz | April 7, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Black History Month equals Confederate History Month.

Posted by: LTCRETUSAR | April 7, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Again:

The war WAS about slavery. The Confederates said so themselves. Several of the state legislatures issued what were essentially Declarations of Independence when they seceded. "State's Rights" was not the issue. The issue was that Northern states weren't doing enough to preserve southern slave rights (by not rounding up escaped slaves for them, making abolition groups illegal as they were in the South, etc).

Their problem was that the non-slave states were exercising "states rights". It's one of the many reasons why the Confederate Constitution further limited States Rights.

Either way, you don't have to believe me. They wrote it all down and voted on it: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp

For all you screaming "State's Rights", what right had been violated at the time of South Carolina Secession? The right to not lose an election?

Posted by: thekohler | April 7, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I know there are apologists for the Confederacy who, when this mess gets stirred up for the umpteenth time, always claim that slavery was not an important cause of the rift between North & South. The following excerpt is from the Confederate States of America's very own constitution Article IV Section 3 (3):

"(3) The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several Sates; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected be Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States."

Posted by: sideshowcarl | April 7, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

It is also important to note how few southerners owned slaves. There is a misconception that all southerners owned dozens of slaves. In fact, the GA 1850 census shows that less than 10% of the population were slave owners. (Blacks and Indians were slave owners also - in equally minute amounts). The southern "apologists" certainly didn't lay down their lives to carry a handful of very wealthy individuals. Common sense will indicate that there must be more to the story.

Posted by: tsb1 | April 7, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Band and history were the classes in high school that I always made an A in. I don't understand all the nasty comments on having a Confederate History month. It borders on racism and sterotyping. About 90,000 blacks served the Confederacy in some capacity. Black units were formed in Louisiana and drilled. Confederate generals wanted to deploy these black regiments, but the Confederate president Jefferson Davis voted that down. The war was not a civil war, but a war between the states. Slavery was not the reason the southern states withdrew from the union, but unfair tariffs and states rights concerns. There was no constitutional prohibition agains withdrawing from the union at that time. Remember, it was the northern states who demanded blacks be counted as 4/5's of a person in the constitution. The northern states were worried that the southerns states would have an advantage in the house of representatives. The emancipation proclamation was not about freeing slaves, but inciting them to rise up as a 5th column. That did not happen because where they lived was their home. Those raising issues about the battle flag and the confederacy are about changing/surpressessing history which is what communist Russia did. The Sons of Confederate Veterans and the United Daughters of the Confederacy in Pulaski, TN, recently marked the graves of 17 black Confederate veterans and paid homage to them. No one is forcing other states to celebrate confederate history month, so allow Virginia to do so.

Posted by: derdegen | April 7, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I will not whistle Dixie, I will not praise that Confederate flag, and Johnny Reb can take his cotton wad and go home.

Kind Regards,

A Tax-Paying, Law-Loving, Yankee

Posted by: radiantbook | April 7, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

You can see who is filled with hate, ignorance and prejudice by reading the posts in this blog....liberal, left wing wackos who have not got a clue about States Rights, our American history or the causes of the War For Southern Independence.....and anyone who chooses to be ignorant will always remain that way....I'm so glad that the Virginia Governor had the political balls to sign the proclamatio