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UPDATED: Mississippi Gov. Barbour defends McDonnell's Confederate proclamation

Rosalind Helderman

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) might have gotten the exactly the help he didn't need from a friend this morning, as Republican Governors Association chairman Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R-Miss.) defended him for issuing a proclamation in honor of Confederate History Month that did not include reference to slavery.

On CNN's "State of the Union," Barbour said people already know slavery was a bad thing and that the outcry over McDonnell's proclamation amounted to making "a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddly."

Barbour's main point was that Mississippi's own Democratic-controlled state legislature has adopted similar resolutions in honor of Confederate soldiers, as have Mississippi governors of both parties. Asked by anchor Candy Crowley if McDonnell's resolution was a mistake, Barbour said, "I don't think so."

"I don't know what you would say about slavery, but anybody that thinks that you have to explain to people that slavery is a bad thing--I think that goes without saying," he said, adding "Maybe they should talk to my Democratic legislature, which has done the exactly same thing in Mississippi for years...I'm unaware of them being criticized for it."

As for the criticism McDonnell faced, including from President Obama, Barbour said: "It's sort of feeling that it's a nit, that it is not significant, it's trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddly," he also said.

The problem for McDonnell, of course: He's been saying for several days now exactly the opposite, apologizing repeatedly for leaving slavery out of the proclamation and calling it a "major omission."

The comments from the RGA head and major McDonnell supporter could threaten the governor's attempts to put the issue to rest and move on.

The Democratic National Committee has already called on Republicans to condemn Barbour's remarks, with DNC Press Secretary Hari Sevugan saying that failing to do so would "send a strong message to all Americans that Republicans endorse Governor Barbour's sentiments and are content not only to be left behind in another century, but that they deserve to be a small regional party in the permanent minority."

We've reached out to McDonnell's office for a response and will let you know what they have to say.

UPDATE 3:14 p.m.: Tucker Martin, McDonnell spokesman, sent a statement by email that generally praises Barbour without specifically addressing this morning's comments. "Governor Haley Barbour is a tremendous leader for Mississippi. Governing Magazine named him Governor of the year in 2006 for good reason. He has led his state's recovery from Hurricane Katrina, focused on economic development and job creation, reformed the public education system and put Mississippi at the forefront of alternative energy research and development. We thank him for his leadership and service to the state and country," Martin said.

UPDATE #2, 12:04 p.m., 4/12:
State and national Democrats say McDonnell's response is inadequate. Jared Leopold with the Democratic Party of Virginia says McDonnell's silence on the Barbour comments "makes Virginians wonder, is Bob McDonnell actually apologetic or is he just upset that he got caught?" Hari Sevugan, press secretary of the Democratic National Committee said McDonnell's comment "laid bare that his apology was nothing more than a political ploy."


By Rosalind Helderman  |  April 11, 2010; 12:26 PM ET
Categories:  Robert F. McDonnell , Rosalind Helderman  
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It needs saying. When Haley talks about the Democratic controlled legislature passing similar resolutions, he is talking about the Democratic controlled legislature of MISSISSIPPI!

Posted by: dpcret93 | April 11, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

These guys just don't get it, do they?

Posted by: rebeccajm | April 11, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Just remember Haley gave Katrina aid to casino operators rather than poor people whose homes had been destroyed.

Haley's playing more games with Democrtic legislature. Democratic in the south ain't what it is elsewhere, bubbas.

Posted by: edismae | April 11, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

So the Guv's racist retrogression gets him a pat on the back from... wait for it... the Guv'nah of MISSISSIPPI?! Now THERE's a glowing endorsement of McDonnell, in all his faux facade as a modernist moderate.

Can you spell "BUYERS' REMORSE", boys and girls? You'd better learn... 'cause you're gonna be saying it a lot over the next four years.

Posted by: nan_lynn | April 11, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

What do you expect from a Governor or Mississippi? They are racists who dream of lynching blacks again - no wonder they are so goddamn backward economically - they deserve the poverty.

Posted by: Troglodyte | April 11, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I'll defer to Gov. Barber's expertise on 'diddly'. If anyone would be an expert, he would.

Posted by: 21stCenturyCaveman | April 11, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Alright. Barber, Barbour. potato,potatoe. I'm playing my Dan Quayle (Quail?) card.

Posted by: 21stCenturyCaveman | April 11, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse


gee - is the Democratic legislature from Mississippi going to apologize for issuing a decree remembering confederate soldiers? Of course not, like the rest of the Democrats, they are excused from paying personal income taxes and answering to the saem criticism as the rest of America!

Posted by: Realist20 | April 11, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Of course, Governor Barber is going to defend Govern McDonnell. The GOP is playing the Race Card, pure and simple. Since the Goldwater (1964) and Reagan gubernatorial (1966) races the GOP has perfected the art of dividing America along racial lines. McDonnell is only the latest in this proud tradition. Barber, having served as chair of the GOP, knows the how to play the game. It may work in VA (or Mississippi) and among older voters who still have a great deal of residual racism, but have you seen the cross tabulations of polls of younger people, particularly the 18-30 demographic, but also the 30-45s? They don't respond to the GOP's "dog whistles." Moreover, the race card is a strategy more likely to work today in the nine states of the deep south, but what about the other 41 states, where racist appeals are not so widely swallowed? So, where does THAT leave the party of Reagan, eh?

Posted by: osullivanc1 | April 11, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is a very savvy guy. Which is why this is so remarkable. If he isn't catching the not so subtle racism coming from the right, its unlikely anyone on the right is catching it.

Racism is making a comeback.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | April 11, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Barbour may be a Democrat, but he's still a bubba redneck.

Posted by: kurthunt | April 11, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Just because everybody knows it was wrong - and I'm not sure EVERYBODY knows it was wrong - that doesn't mean we should forget it, does it? And just because your legislature and other governors did it doesn't make all of you right - it means there's a lot of people who clearly don't understand that there's an issue there.

Posted by: ravensfan20008 | April 11, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Gosh. Republicans really are clueless!

Posted by: cosmiccanine | April 11, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Dear Sirs,
If it is no big thing, why doesn't Jeff Bush take off his Confederate flag pin and wear an American flag lapel one?
Remember when the Republican party called Obama a traitor because4 he d9idn't wear one?
Doesn't Bush have any respect for the Union dead?
Clifford Spencer

Posted by: yankeefan1925 | April 11, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

wapo is helping the dems find ways to demonize the Republicans...
however, people want jobs...
the dems are in charge...
what have they done to create large amounts of jobs to help the people...
the answer...
NOTHING...
so why vote for them...
they appear to be useless...

Posted by: DwightCollins | April 11, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

And the GOP tries to say that racial minorities are Democrats because of welfare... hmm... maybe it's because the GOP tries to downplay racism and slavery every chance they get.

Trying to slide the blame onto Mississippi Dixiecrats does not absolve the GOP.

Posted by: brian_away | April 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

This from a governor with a girl's first name and the stars & bars on his state flag. What do you expect? You're in Mississippi now boy!

Posted by: MikeV2 | April 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

This is not complicated. My great-great-grandfather served as a sergeant in the 34th Mississippi. And he committed treason against the United States. And he committed that act in service of slavery.

"Secession Declaration, State of Mississippi

"[Copied from "Journal of the State Convention", (Jackson, MS: E. Barksdale, State Printer, 1861), pp. 86-88]

"A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

"In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

I honor my ancestor's service, privately, but disagree vehemently with his decision and don't think it should be celebrated.

They were wrong, they lost, let them stay buried.

Posted by: AirBeagle | April 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Typical Republicans their hate and racism and really coming to the forefront.

Posted by: rlj1 | April 11, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"Barbour may be a Democrat, but he's still a bubba redneck."

Barbour is most definitely NOT a Democrat.

Posted by: hndrsnsbks | April 11, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm disappointed in Haley. Normally he is pretty politically on top of things and even though I consider myself a liberal leaning Dem, I've always kinda liked him as he didn't present as a firebrand right winger. Oh, well.

Posted by: creatia52 | April 11, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Mississippi didn't approve the 13th amendment until 1995. You can't rush the good old boys.

Posted by: James10 | April 11, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't amount to diddly for a couple of white male southern governors but it meant a lot to the men, women, and children who died to keep America whole.

Barbour and the rest of the confederate sympathizers are traitors, plain and simple.

Posted by: stratzrus | April 11, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what a surprise the Governor of Mississippi defending the Governor of Virginia, former Capitol of Slavery. This is an excellent time to remember the confederates and their slave capitives. I see the site (toyotarunaway org) is doing the same thing.

Posted by: Moley2 | April 11, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Two peas-in-a-pod. I say run both of them out of town with a copy of Gone With The Wind to watch while laying on the couch and "out" of the Gov mansion.

Posted by: WhitneyDavid | April 11, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

If this is a Confederate Memorial day, then I don't think slavery needs to be mentioned. The Confederacy wasn't about slavery, it was about State's Rights. They felt that the Federal Government was growing too large (they were right), and that the main powers should be within the State itself. In reality, Abraham Lincoln trampled on the seceded states' constitutional rights when war was declared. I find it incredibly hypocritical to laud the North for their "compassion" when they were busy beating the Irish and actually importing the slaves they were supposedly fighting to free. Abraham Lincoln himself signed the death warrants for countless Native Americans during the War between the States. Just once, I would like a politician to stand up and honor the Confederate soldiers who lost their lives fighting for freedom from a tyrannical Federal Government. Had they won, I bet slavery would be long dead, and America would be two far happier countries than this one large growth that we've become

Posted by: elevatorshoe | April 11, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse


The Republican "Big Tent"- all white racists and ignorant dimwits are welcome!

Mc Donnell very obviously issued this proclamation as a way of giving the finger to everyone not on the far right, and to stir up the rubes in the GOP's base, many of whom are teabagger idiots. Then he was going to take their money. It works every time for the GOP.

They just weren't expecting the backlash. This isn't 2004 anymore. People have caught on to the Republican Party's lies and manipulative games.


Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 11, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Is it surprising that a white, southern, republican politician is telling the descendants of slaves in Virginia that slavery is not worth a diddley?

If this man wants to keep his state of Mississippi in the dark ages of segregated racism that's his business. But he needs to keep his nose out of the Commonwealth of Virginia's business.

Is Governor Barbour finally admitting openly that Republicans really are the party of segregation and discrimination?

Posted by: L-D-M | April 11, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

O, I wish I was in the land of cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.

In Dixie Land where I was born in
Early on one frosty mornin'
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.

O, I wish I was in Dixie!
Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
To live and die in Dixie
Away, away,
Away down south in Dixie!

Posted by: greg3 | April 11, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Saying the South was not about slavery is like saying Hitler was more about gassing the Jews. Of course, Hitler was more about killing Jews, but what we remember is the atrocities and human rights violations that were stood for at the time. Slavery was an institution well defended in the South prior to the Civil War and part of the old Plantation System. Anybody who doubts this should look at the record of the South post civil war. The years of discrimination and Blacks being forced to ride in the back of the bus. As for States Rights, that's a bunch of hogwash. Thanks to the Federal Government, Blacks in the South were finally able to vote with the Civil Rights Act. It took federal troops to get minorities into colleges in the South. The history of the South is one of shame and disgrace. Marked by the Confederacy and her traitors against everything America stood for.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 11, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Virginia is now properly aligned with Kentucky and Mississippi now if we could just get those colored folks in line we would be the white bastion we were meant to be by the Constitution...

Posted by: waxtraxs | April 11, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

The only people trying to make an issue out of this are the editorial staff of the Washington Post. They are doing this at the direction of their puppet masters in the Democrat party. They must be disappointed that this issue isn't resonating with anybody. I wonder how many stories they will run about this non-issue.

Posted by: get_it_right | April 11, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

People who don't understand the problem will trivialize it.

Posted by: jgluke | April 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Really? Wow what a surprise an old southern white Governor sticking by another one on the Confederacy. Basic throwing red meat to their bigoted base. No surprise folks what is surprising is that they cannot get it into their thick skulls that the South was resoundingly defeated in the Civl War based almost entirely on the abhorrent slavery reality. The TEA a.k.a. SHEET party types feel themselves superior to the minorities that are scaring them due to the upcoming demographic changes. Finding a member of a minority at a TEA party rally is harder than finding Waldo in a Where in the world is Waldo book. Oh you might see a paid off token rapper or entertainer but the purists believe only that white is the only right. good luck with that long term they will end up the way the South did the last time bowing to a loser flag over a hundred years after the loss. OBAMANOS!

Posted by: jbento | April 11, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Saying the South was not about slavery is like saying Hitler was more about gassing the Jews. Of course, Hitler was more about killing Jews, but what we remember is the atrocities and human rights violations that were stood for at the time. Slavery was an institution well defended in the South prior to the Civil War and part of the old Plantation System. Anybody who doubts this should look at the record of the South post civil war. The years of discrimination and Blacks being forced to ride in the back of the bus. As for States Rights, that's a bunch of hogwash. Thanks to the Federal Government, Blacks in the South were finally able to vote with the Civil Rights Act. It took federal troops to get minorities into colleges in the South. The history of the South is one of shame and disgrace. Marked by the Confederacy and her traitors against everything America stood for.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | April 11, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Until the Emancipation Proclamation was signed blacks didn't have rights in the north either. Maybe you should reread history yourself.

Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

South Africa doesn't celebrate apartheid heritage month (to paraphrase Ebert's tweet).

It's time to treat these people, who want to "shrink the federal government until it can be drowned in the bathtub", as the traitors they are.

Posted by: Vajrakilaya | April 11, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Listening to the authoritarians on the right, I get the impression that they'd just as soon shoot and kill everybody who doesn't "contribute" to society, according to their understanding of what "contribute" means. Authoritarians have a hair-trigger temper. They see threats where there are no threats. They'd rather destroy the Earth and all the people and other creatures on it than appear weak and coddling. The War of Northern Aggression, so-called, was nothing of the sort. The authoritarian habit of compartmentalizing and rationalizing and worshiping Tradition leads them to outlandish conclusions. The descendants of former slaves have Traditionally been social outcasts. For a while, some of them lived on welfare, which was a perpetual government handout to people who couldn't contribute because they had been denied social services and respect in their youths. But that's no nevermind. Welfare, as we knew it, is gone. Removing the opportunity to "earn" obscene profits from health insurance companies is seen as a welfare program for the descendants of slaves and, hence, not acceptable. Facts and logic must never interfere with deeply held beliefs. Makes me wonder what happened in their lives to create in authoritarians the sense that they are under mortal threat from namby-pamby coddlers on the left.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | April 11, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

All of these articles over this non-issue?

Do blacks and liberals have nothing else than this to whine about? After awhile boys and girls, people get inured to your petty griping and pretty soon nobody hears your noisy crying but your own kind.

Posted by: bryanmcoleman | April 11, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

During the US war with Mexico, hundreds of Irish-American soldiers deserted the US Army to join the Mexican Army. Their justification was that Mexicans were Catholics like them. Those who are upset about the Confederates had better "do something" to straighten out the way many modern Irishmen view that conflict.

Posted by: mhr614 | April 11, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

South Africa doesn't celebrate apartheid heritage month (to paraphrase Ebert's tweet).

It's time to treat these people, who want to "shrink the federal government until it can be drowned in the bathtub", as the traitors they are.

Posted by: Vajrakilaya | April 11, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Africa celebrates. This is the US you know where we even invent holidays like Kwanzaa. LOL

Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse


THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS ARE CIRCLING THE WAGONS AROUND GOV McDONNELL!...

Posted by: demtse | April 11, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Frankly, my dears, he don't give a damn.

Posted by: steveboyington | April 11, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The good news is that all this overt pandering to racist worshipers of the Confederate "Cause" is making crystal clear to every American still in doubt what all the raucous "States' Rights" and "Nullification" hubbub on the right is, at bottom, really all about -- same thing as when Strom Thurmond's and George Wallace's lips dripped with those very words, to paraphrase Dr. King.

2010 will look less and less the good year for Republicans that, by rights it should be, the longer this ugliness keeps up. Most Americans, even those with strong reservations about Obama and the Democrats, want to get past America's tragic history of slavery and racism not re-fight the Civil War.

Posted by: washpost29 | April 11, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, go figure. Another southern governor, who happens to be republican, came out in the defense of our idiot governor McDonnell. Pointing out the fact that a democratic legislature in a southern state supports celebrating the confederacy just highlights the fact that is real easy to do when you are a white American. Again, I ask these people to view history in the eyes of black Americans, Native Americans (Indians), Jewish people and Hispanics (the Mayan society was wiped out by Spanish, fair skinned Europeans).

This country, this world needs to stop feeding people history in the point-of-view of the conqueror only and realize the conquered, enslaved, and colonized don't celebrate this world's history the way they do. Governors McDonnell, Barbour and his state legislation failed to see history from the point-of-view of ALL their constiuents. It is as bad as the Iranian, nit-wit President denying the holocaust. From his point-of-view it was the tradegies of war, from Jewish people's point-of-view, it was genocide.

Posted by: ajackson3 | April 11, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

The guy is just floundering. He still hasn't proved to us Virginians how he would govern effectively. Nothing on the budget. Now his "tea bagger" brethren is coming to his side. This is an example of their "take back my country" mantra.

Posted by: Kiddk | April 11, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Is there any truth to the rumour that McDonnell wants to make May Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Month?

Posted by: Kcrl1 | April 11, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I guess it doesn't amount to diddly if it wasn't your ancestors raped and murdered by confederates.

Posted by: orange3 | April 11, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

To most people, the Confederacy is about slavery and celebrating it is about as tasteless as applauding the KKK. For southerners who want to wink and protest that it's all about something else ("yeah, like mint juleps and stuff") while you enjoy your little inside joke, forget it. We're not fooled. We know racism is what you are celebrating when you drag out that hated flag. Get over it -- you lost and you lost because you were wedded to something evil. And apparently still are.

Posted by: noGOP4me | April 11, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Let's start celebrating April 9th which was the date in 1865 when Lee surrendered to Grant at the Appomattox Court House. That should be as big a day as when Germany and Japan surrendered. But, everybody knows the South lost the war just as the Republicans were crushed in the 2008 elections. It seems they have to be reminded.

Posted by: bobbyfab44 | April 11, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Well, it certainly is a ringing endorsement when a self-proclaimed "fat redneck" pronounces that it is no big deal to promote Confederate history without reference to the horrors of slavery. Barbour heads up the poorest state in the country and is darn proud of its standing. Why does anyone even bother to interview this loser? Oh gosh, I forgot he was chairman of the Republican party and considered a possible presidential contender. The bottom of the barrel has been reached.

Posted by: merrylees | April 11, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Of course the left is going to whine about this because that's what they do. The fact is it has always been the Republicans that championed racial equality and the Democrats know it. When they start rejecting the likes of Robert Byrd then perhaps somebody might take them seriously. This is a phony show by the leftist Democrats and they need to be called out on it.

Posted by: rplat | April 11, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

No one is making the black people stay here in the USA. They can head back to Africa any time they wish. I have been to Africa and the black people here in America are much better off. Don't let the door hit you on your way back to Africa.

Posted by: twotimetuna | April 11, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I'll go with what General Grant said. With the growing industrialization and interconnection of the states from 1787 to 1860, Northerners didn't care about slavery until the imposition of the Fugitive Slave Act brought them into the politics of the situation. The North saw the Fugitive Slave Act as being an inapppropriate assertion of the federal government over the states (state's rights--but the northern version) and the South saw the growing agricultural tariffs and a reluctance of Northern states to enforce the fugitive slave act as intolerable.

The issue of whether the United States was composed of an association of states tied together by a national government, or a national union tied together through states, an issue which had begun to be worked out in 1787 was not resolved. The Constitution did not contemplate the situation. If it had, there would have been specific language covering the circumstances of disagreement between the Northern and Southern states. Secession (not treason until Texas v White in 1870) was inevitable.

The true paradox was that the North did not like slavery, but for the first two years the issue (except for the Colored Troops) was Union. The South professed the protection of the institution of slavery, yet except for a narrow political class, defended the war on State's rights. If the North had won in 1862, the odds favor that slavery would have continued another twenty years or so until industrialization made it extinct (no real industrial republic can survive economically with the institution of slavery, it takes a totalitarian institution to maintain such a practice in a mondern state).

Was it about slavery, or was it about two people with differing positions who let the clouds of war approach. If the war was just about slavery, that would be a most unique war, as there is no modern war which can explained by one single factor, much less a dozen. Tuchman was right. Generally war results when men start events and lose control of the process.

Posted by: Paladin7b | April 11, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"To most people, the Confederacy is about slavery and celebrating it is about as tasteless as applauding the KKK. For southerners who want to wink and protest that it's all about something else ("yeah, like mint juleps and stuff") while you enjoy your little inside joke, forget it. We're not fooled. We know racism is what you are celebrating when you drag out that hated flag. Get over it -- you lost and you lost because you were wedded to something evil. And apparently still are.

Posted by: noGOP4me | April 11, 2010 3:37 PM"


Hogwash . . . engage your brain before you put your mouth in gear. The South lost because the lacked the money and industrial capability to continue the war. Slavery was an unfortunate part of the Confederacy but it does not define the Confederacy.

Posted by: rplat | April 11, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

A governor from a backwards state defending another governor from a backwards state for doing something boneheaded, no surprise people.

Posted by: jabreal00 | April 11, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Can't Barbour say something worthwhile? Like how the Republican's are going to end unemployment. He has diddly for brains.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 11, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Birds of a feather exclude together...

Posted by: NewThoughts | April 11, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Barbour's right in saying that it's not that big of a deal and yes it probably was taken outof context; BUT if you want to be a "player" for 2012 you can't make errors like that which is exactly what McDonnell did. he fell for it. he fell for the right wing's desire to have someone come and and support one of their issues. And now he'll not only be branded a right wing religious zealot, but also a closet racist. The probalem with the Republicans is that they don't evolve and think. They just "do" and let the chips fall where they may. Stupid is as stupid does......

Posted by: am1968 | April 11, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I would think it is just as socially unacceptable for people to accuse others of racism simply because they are not in agreement with a particular culture.

Racism is a personal grievance against a persons color or particular race. What defines culture and why are some allowed social diversity and others are not. Is it just that all white southerners are grouped together as racist if they object to the current socialist political opinion? It just seems curious.

That is like a form of cultural bigotry that is as deplorable as racism. The difference is that any group may ostracize any other group simply because of where they were born and how they were raised rather than their race. A sure sign of bigotry corrupted in Socialism economics.

More a form of propaganda than truth but that is what is expected now in America from the left.

Posted by: longbow65 | April 11, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Not a big deal? I guess the Nazi extermination of the Jews was not a big deal either, eh?

Posted by: GeorgHerbet | April 11, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Liberals love to race bate. The Washington Post continually campaigns for the Democrats. Part of that involves doing hit pieces of important Republicans especially those in their region. The Washington Post has no objectivity and has been reduced to Liberal propaganda machine.

Posted by: sonofliberty09 | April 11, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Barbour and O'Donnell - perfect together, as the racist idiots they are.

Posted by: mtravali | April 11, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

To quote one Tom Lehrer song:

"Old times they are not forgotten,
Whuppin' slaves and sellin' cotton . . ."

Posted by: chuck8 | April 11, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

First rule for Republicans is to never take responsibility for what you say or do. Second rule is to blame someone else.

In this episode, ignoring slavery, these Republicans have demonstrated not only Rule 1 and Rule 2 but how deeply prejudiced they are with respect to folks who are not White and not Southern.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | April 11, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Let's call a spade a spade. The reason the Virginia Governor wants to glorify the confederacy is because he wants his country back to the way it was in the good old days when a minority was less than a human being.
It galls bigots every time the current President is seen or heard. The governor is trying to soothe the anguish he feels and will continue to feel for another six plus years.

Posted by: fasm7700 | April 11, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The republican grand poopa of the sons of the confederate kkk has spoken. He does get it because he doesn't want to get it. To attribute honor to men who forth to kept slavery and killed 700,000 US men is NOTHING to honor. These men are traitors of the US. Their cause WAS NOT HONORABLE.

Posted by: Vonnie932 | April 11, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If it doesn't amount to diddly, then why have it?

Posted by: comesthesun2 | April 11, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

one racist extremist defends another.

business as usual from the party of no idea.

mississippi is such a shining example of all that is good in teabugger amerika.

va citizens must feel real proud of the lackey they elected.

Posted by: xxxxxx1 | April 11, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

got a problem with slavery - blams britian - when the colonies tried to stop it they were told they were colonies of britian and they WOULD take slaves.

blame african islamic slave traders - who started the black slave trade in east and north africia - obama's tribe was involved in the slave trade.

the name slave came from islamic's who started their little money making scheme by enslaving the SLAV'S from yugoslavia hence the name slave.

so you got a problem with slavery - BLAME ISLAM!

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | April 11, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how Gov. Barbour comes to his fellow confiederate's defense and calls our true US History diddly, these two and those like them only want to try and turn back the clock. America is trying to move forward and they are trying to continue to move us back to a time that we want to put behind us. Like always they want to deny the trueth. There is only education in the trueth.

Posted by: ThisDay | April 11, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"Barbour may be a Democrat, but he's still a bubba redneck. Posted by: kurthunt | April 11, 2010 2:52 PM"

Wake up call! Prior to being elected Governor, Barbour worked as a lawyer and lobbyist, and also served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee from 1993 to 1997. In 1991, Barbour helped found Barbour & Rogers, LLC[3], a Washington, D.C.-based lobbying firm. I doubt he would like being called a Democrat, he quit school to work on the election of Richard Nixon.

Posted by: mtravali | April 11, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Good grief. The proclamation is about remembering the sacrifices of one's ancestors who felt they were defending their homes. Can't you libs get that???

The issue of slavery was settled 145 years ago. This isn't about re-enslavement, or re-introducing Jim Crow laws. You losers are just throwing up red herrings for political gain. You guys are disgusting.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Lots of B.S. on this site!

Posted by: SeniorVet | April 11, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Good grief. The proclamation is about remembering the sacrifices of one's ancestors who felt they were defending their homes. Can't you libs get that???

The issue of slavery was settled 145 years ago. This isn't about re-enslavement, or re-introducing Jim Crow laws. You losers are just throwing up red herrings for political gain. You guys are disgusting.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Undignified pandering--a-sucking--is always a political crime. The new McDonnell administration works in very obvious signals to show how Conservative and gutter-oriented they are:

1) AG makes an unnecessary stink about funds to state colleges who do not harass homosexual students and faculty. Even the Gov admitted this meant nothing, would change nothing. But it was sending smoke signals to all the illiterate Republicans out there in the countryside.

2) McDonnell joins in with the symbolic move by state governments to challenge the Constitutionality of health care reform. This is a nice segue into his declaration of "Confederacy Month" since it basically (but only symbolically) is saying States Rights trump all federal laws or we have a "right" to succeed from the Union. Civil War all over again. Practically it is nonsense: you gots to get a SS card, you gots to get a driver's license, you gots to pay taxes. These are "mandates".

3) Civil War Month, forgetting slavery entirely, was not about boosting the tourist industry. It was another nostalgic retro bone to the perceived uprising against Obama that the Republican party (and McDonnell) wants to ride the political ladder.

As a Virginian from the state's most Conservative county, I am sickened not just by McDonnell by every Republican in the country. Have you no sense of honor at all?

Posted by: walden1 | April 11, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

To honor those who were terrorists for their time in 1860 is to honor Timothy McVeigh. The confederate soldiers were the enemy to the United States of America in the civil war and its is a disrespect to the union soldiers to make them into anything other then an army defending Slavery in this country.

Posted by: flysher | April 11, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Nathan Bedford Forrest V has also expressed his support for McDumbell.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

"My plans will create jobs and build roads and put more money into the classroom that's who I am and that's the kind of Governor I'll be."

Bob McDonnell September, 2009


How's the new GOP hopey changey thing workin' for ya?

Posted by: waxtraxs | April 11, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

It is vital that the hostility between north and South continue to develop, which hopefully will lead to another Southern secession, than which a more noble cause cannot well be imagined.
We Southerners, who alone have escaped the totalitarian urges of enforced equality and political correctness, we alone still have the spiritual resources necessary for the exercise of self-disciplined freedom. The rest of the country is cordially invited to pursue its on-going experiment in decadence, hedonism, self-indulgence, and mass ignorance. The South will persist as a unique and precious culture long after the self-loathing north (self-loathing for good reason) has devolved into a multi-cultural sewer too brain dead properly to wipe itself.

Posted by: LeePefley1 | April 11, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Good ol' boy Haley Barbour says, "I say, I say, boy, this don't mean diddly! Now fetch me another Jack and coke!"

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Undignified pandering--a-sucking--is always a political crime. The new McDonnell administration works in very obvious signals to show how Conservative and gutter-oriented they are:

1) AG makes an unnecessary stink about funds to state colleges who do not harass homosexual students and faculty. Even the Gov admitted this meant nothing, would change nothing. But it was sending smoke signals to all the illiterate Republicans out there in the countryside.

2) McDonnell joins in with the symbolic move by state governments to challenge the Constitutionality of health care reform. This is a nice segue into his declaration of "Confederacy Month" since it basically (but only symbolically) is saying States Rights trump all federal laws or we have a "right" to succeed from the Union. Civil War all over again. Practically it is nonsense: you gots to get a SS card, you gots to get a driver's license, you gots to pay taxes. These are "mandates".

3) Civil War Month, forgetting slavery entirely, was not about boosting the tourist industry. It was another nostalgic retro bone to the perceived uprising against Obama that the Republican party (and McDonnell) wants to ride the political ladder.

As a Virginian from the state's most Conservative county, I am sickened not just by McDonnell by every Republican in the country. Have you no sense of honor at all?

Posted by: walden1 | April 11, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse
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You know, it's going to be fun watching your apoplectic response when the Comrade Obozo's Communist Healthcare scheme is ruled unconstitutional.

It's going to be even more fun when you and all of the Obozo lackeys in the lamestream media are struck dumb when you Dumbocrats get clobbered in November. This will be fun!!!

TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK!!!

MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN!!!

The clock IS ticking, the writing IS on the wall, and in November you Dumbocrats' time IS up!!! YOU GOIN' DOWN!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

PANTS ON THE GROUND!!!
PANTS ON THE GROUND!!!
DEMS LOOKIN' LIKE A FOOL WITH THEIR PANTS ON THE GROUND!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Exactly what one would expect from the Governor of Mississippi that bastion of progressive thinking and equal rights for all. Haley Barbour may be one of the darlings of the new Republican South but he is nothing more than a redneck who wears thousand dollar suits.

Several years back my wife and I drove the Mississippi Delta Highway from Natchez to Memphis. Her quote sums up this state; "Now I know why they sing the blues here!"

Posted by: bobfbell | April 11, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Imagine that... one bigoted confederate tea-bagger republican defending another bigoted confederate tea-bagger republican.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | April 11, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

From one good ole boy racist son of treason to anether, don't lit thays Yankees with they histry, and Constitutions, and Amurkin values ratlle ya none, bobby. Ole haley (great name for a man) git yer back.

Posted by: John1263 | April 11, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

How typically hypocritical of the Democratic left, oppose and fight against Civil Rights legislation and then after it passes seek to garner minorities into their party by entitlements that reduce personal responsibility and freedom, but rather make them dependent upon the party and its role in the government. Then bring up the race issue wherever possible as a means to denigrate those who ACTUALLY made civil rights laws a reality and promote personal freedom, liberty, and opportunity through limited government. Just ask Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell, Colin Powell, and others that denounce these kinds of charades for political purposes.

Posted by: Moon714 | April 11, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"Get over it -- you lost."

Lost? War's not over yet. Next time, WE win.

Posted by: LeePefley1 | April 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

To honor those who were terrorists for their time in 1860 is to honor Timothy McVeigh. The confederate soldiers were the enemy to the United States of America in the civil war and its is a disrespect to the union soldiers to make them into anything other then an army defending Slavery in this country.

Posted by: flysher | April 11, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse
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You know, it is amazing to me how ignorant you Dumbs are of American History. The Confederates were pretty straight forward. They believed that blacks were inferior and needed to be subjugated. I don't agree with that.

For right or wrong, good, bad, or ugly, these men had a principle they believed in. I think it's a bad principle. However, they believed what they believed, and fought for it. They also believed in a more limited gov't (not a bad idea).

As for the common soldiers who were NOT slave owners, they were defending their homes. I doubt anyone can find fault in someone for doing that.

As for today, those who ancestors were Condederate soldiers surely are only remember the sacrifices that the soldiers endured to defend their homes. Surely there is nothing wrong with that.

However, it is truly amazing and sadly typical that you libs throw out the race card any time anyone mentions anything about the Confederacy. What it is is a red herring to try and divert people from the fact that Comrade Obozo is an utter failure as a President, that he is trying to lead us towards Communism, that he has hired Radical associates to be Commisars (Czars would be associated with being bourgeoisie) who freely quote Mao. Moreover, this whole group seems to just loathe the US and our whole way of life. To me they are the most un-American people to ever achieve high places. Thank God for the mid-term elections to de-fang these losers.

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Remembering the sacrifices of our ancestors? Really? I had realitives in the wehrmacht. I will not be hanging any swastika flags up to commemorate that memory.

Posted by: John1263 | April 11, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I think the civil war occurred well over 100 years ago. The history that many were taught about slavery and the south is not entirely correct. Yes slavery is inhumane, but this war was not about slavery itself. It was about the rights of states in our republic. The fact that Lincoln freed the slaves in the South with the emancipation proclamation, make Lincoln an obvious hero for African Americans, but do we dare remind you that he was a Republican? Do you dare remember that the democrats from the south were pretty much against the voting rights act in the 1960's? I think that calls of racism are something that this country should be beyond. How are we ever going to get to Dr. King's dream of a man being judged by his character and not the color of his skin? The Southern Rebel Mentality of today doesn't really have to be about racism. Most Southerners feel their society values and hospitality make them socially superior to Northern states. It's just a since of southern pride, not latent racism.

Posted by: tbutlerfamily | April 11, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Ah Yes. the "leaders" of Mississippi and Virginia. Rally round the Stars and Bars boys.

Where is South Carolina? Surely, they have something to say since they started the War. And, Texas? Where are they? Maybe they have already seceeded and don't care anymore. So long Texas.

Posted by: caseyb1 | April 11, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

LeePefley1- democrats have guns, too.
I look forward to the fight.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | April 11, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

'...a disrespect to the union soldiers."

I've always tried to disrespect union soldiers in any way I can, but if you are aware of any new ways to do so, please tell me what they are.

Posted by: LeePefley1 | April 11, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

You know, it is amazing to me how you libs are completely blind that Comrade Obozo is trying to set up the plantation nationwide. He's trying to make the poor and the minorities dependent on gov't aid, sapping their independence and initiative. He's raising taxes on EVERYONE, lowering the quality of healthcare, and is quite frankly throwing the elderly under the bus. My friends, you've been sent back out to the fields to pick cotton for Massa, and Comrade Obozo is Massa. You've been duped!

VOTE REPUBLICAN TO EMANCIPATE YOURSELF FROM GOV'T SERVITUDE!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

elevatorshoe, your explanation of the Civil War as being not about slavery, but about anger over an enlarging Federal Government almost sounds like a parody of the apologists' position on the war.

In fact, that's the modern myth about it, and that's why it's being talked about in these times - because such a myth fits in well with the Teabagger's main target, big government.

Can you name specific things the Federal government was doing prior to 1860 that show it was growing too large, and any statements from Southern states concerning this?

Could you quote, from the seceding states' declarations of secession, their complaints that were not related to slavery? They were very specific about why they left the Union, why don't you read their own words?

Posted by: hitpoints | April 11, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is highly responsible for McDonnell getting elected and under Barbour's direction he was told to present as a center right, pragmatic leader focused on economic growth. Barbour the politician defended McDonnell, Barbour, the governor of MS did not defend the state's holding on to a long ago dead past. Ole Miss under Barbour gave up its Confederate Symbols and has worked hard to overcome its racist persona garnered in the 60s. Barbour got elected by seeking the African American vote But get real. When you ask the man who rebuilt the GOP in the 90s and got Geo Bush elected about McDonnell, what did you expect him to say?

Posted by: xclntcat | April 11, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Jim Webb, A Democrat from Virginia, not Mississippi, has said more in praise of the Confederate Soldier over the years than any Republican. Of course there is nothing wrong with that, but it does point out how the Dems turn a blind eye to it to just focus on the "horrible" Republicans.

Posted by: irish031 | April 11, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

tbutlerfamily-
The Civil war was about the rights of states, yes, but to enslave people. You're making exactly the same lie by omission as McDonnell did. Your rediculous attempts at revisionism just make you tea-bagger republicans look like the hateful bigots you are. Keep it up - it's actually helpful that you guys are standing up and loudly proclaiming you bigotry and hatred.
As for the Democrats 50 years ago, or the republicans under Lincoln?
That was 50 and 150 years ago, and in that time the parties have clearly switched places. Claiming that they are unchanged over this giant gulf of time is again, simply a lie.
But you're a tea-bagger republican, and lying is what you do.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | April 11, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't the Governor be wearing his white hood when he addresses the subject of racism? Of course, there are no problems with being a racist in the former republican, white supremacist party.

Posted by: joecoppo | April 11, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Of course Barbour doesn't think this amounts to "diddly." He's a Mississippian who's always had a tin ear when it comes to racial issues -- like about, oh, 99.9% of the rest of the GOP. That's OK, Haley, any help the Dems can get to energize African American voters for the '10 and '12 elections is welcome! :-)

Posted by: jac13 | April 11, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The South will persist as a unique and precious culture long after the self-loathing north (self-loathing for good reason) has devolved into a multi-cultural sewer too brain dead properly to wipe itself.

Posted by: LeePefley1
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Stated very clearly. Non-white cultures mixing with whites produces a sewer, in LeePefley's opinion. Does he speak for the South?

Posted by: hitpoints | April 11, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

To honor those who were terrorists for their time in 1860 is to honor Timothy McVeigh. The confederate soldiers were the enemy to the United States of America in the civil war and its is a disrespect to the union soldiers to make them into anything other then an army defending Slavery in this country.

Posted by: flysher | April 11, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse
****************************
You know, it is amazing to me how ignorant you Dumbs are of American History. The Confederates were pretty straight forward. They believed that blacks were inferior and needed to be subjugated. I don't agree with that.

For right or wrong, good, bad, or ugly, these men had a principle they believed in. I think it's a bad principle. However, they believed what they believed, and fought for it. They also believed in a more limited gov't (not a bad idea).

As for the common soldiers who were NOT slave owners, they were defending their homes. I doubt anyone can find fault in someone for doing that.

As for today, those who ancestors were Condederate soldiers surely are only remember the sacrifices that the soldiers endured to defend their homes. Surely there is nothing wrong with that.

However, it is truly amazing and sadly typical that you libs throw out the race card any time anyone mentions anything about the Confederacy. What it is is a red herring to try and divert people from the fact that Comrade Obozo is an utter failure as a President, that he is trying to lead us towards Communism, that he has hired Radical associates to be Commisars (Czars would be associated with being bourgeoisie) who freely quote Mao. Moreover, this whole group seems to just loathe the US and our whole way of life. To me they are the most un-American people to ever achieve high places. Thank God for the mid-term elections to de-fang these losers.

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Wake up and smell the roses and don't give me lib bull. They fought against the country that u wave your flag for against 9-11 criminals . And now you say you feel enemies of the USA from the Civil War are heroes.
States right is only another name for the rich of the state to control it. Wait till you need anything and see how they will treat you like the Parkinson's Man who was laugh at and ridiculed and how the conservative church says it wrong to help those who do not have.

Posted by: flysher | April 11, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is Milbank's favorite self-described "fat redneck," so there is no surprise in his support for making slavery invisible.

Posted by: hlabadie | April 11, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I think Barbour meant to say just what he said to keep the issue in play and further gas up the good ole' white boy tea bag contingency. After all, that's who's voting for that party now, right? The racist majority?

Posted by: rumpy | April 11, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

The south LOST get over it!

Posted by: whocares666 | April 11, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand all the stereotyping from the left in their criticisms of Mississippi. I thought it was only the right that stereotyped. And why the criticism of the confederate states? We're not supposed to judge other cultures are we? I mean, it was Nazi like for Bush to invade Iraq, so why was it right for Lincoln to invade Virginia?

Posted by: AlvinYork | April 11, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Birds of a feather...

Posted by: publish | April 11, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

All this would be a non-event if the current POTUS had not chosen to once again engage in demagoguery.
Once again this former supporter is forced to say "Shame on you, Barack Obama!"

Posted by: miriamac2001 | April 11, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is a racist idiot.

Posted by: kkrimmer | April 11, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Got to please that Redneck Republican base. Whats next for Va? Going against Healthcare, The Enviroment, Gays, Slavery and maybe touching yourself?? These White Christian bungholes love to push thier BS on everyone but themselves. This is why most Christians suck!!

Posted by: porcelainproductions | April 11, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The Confederacy wasn't about slavery, it was about State's Rights. Posted by: elevatorshoe


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From the Confederate Constitution:

No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed [by Congress]


The Confederacy was about States' Rights to Slavery.

Posted by: twm1 | April 11, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Barbour like McDonnell is a Neo-Confederate, so his comments of support aren't that surprising.

The only real ironic thing is that 150 years after Lincoln's election, the GOP's regional base is in the Old Confederacy and it tends to find sympathy with latter-day plantation owners.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Shame on Barbour. Shame on McDonnell. They are celebrating the Confederacy, a system of a gov built on white people's ability to subjugate other with their brutality and inhumanity.

Why would any decent person want to be a part of that?

Posted by: bosslady1 | April 11, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure some one has already posted something funny about Boss Hog.

Posted by: Emmetrope | April 11, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Haley Barbour is a shrewd and talented politician. I doubt if he "misspoke" rather, this will be the tenure of his GOP Presidential campaign...Run to the right, run to the right and in the general, run to the right! God help the USA.

Posted by: TNbybirth | April 11, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how the liberal media tries to make everything a Republican does something evil or bad. I had many ancestors that fought for the south in the civil war. Only two out of around thirty four owned slaves and I do not believe they were fighting for slavery. Nothing in my family history reflects that. Most people from the south saw the war as about defending our states from an over reaching federal government. It was about states rights and freedom. Most southerners have what is called "southern pride" in our region of the country. The confederate flag is a symbol of that southern pride to us. I am proud my family members fought to defend our region from the invading union army. The union general Sherman was an absolute terrorist and he and his men were intent of causing as much destruction to the southern towns and farms as possible. I admire southern governors that do not buckle to the politically correct over kill we see today. Down here we cling to our religion and guns and we are proud of it.

Posted by: good_angel | April 11, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"not a big deal"

then why attempt to honor the traitorous slave states?

Posted by: newagent99 | April 11, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Right-Wing Extremist and many Conservatives are the creators of racial disparities, racial segregation, racial profiling, and other racial issues within the country, thus creating greater divisions between the states, the people, and the political parties.

They then try to play down these disparities and divisions as nothing, or they try to deny their racist tactics and/or blame those (liberals & blacks) for making a big scene over nothing concerning their motives.

The funny thing is, is that they expect Democrats, Blacks, and other folks to just go along with their racist and insensitive attitudes and mindsets just because of their extremist political and religious views, in which they incessantly try to defend as being correct for ALL people.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | April 11, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

jeffc6578

Excuse me for stating my opinion. Obviously I over stepped my first amendment rights. I think that a man should be judged by his character, not the color of his skin. I was not born in the south and do not claim to be a redneck or rebel. I was simply stating an observation. Of course, I observe that you sir have a bad attitude and must resort to name calling due to your lack of vocabulary skills.

Posted by: tbutlerfamily | April 11, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The South Rises Again! Soon the schoolbooks will rename the Civil War as: The War of Northern Aggression. No mention of slavery, no mention of the cost to humanity, nor the South's treason. Just that April is the month to celebrate the South's Heritage of H8te.

Posted by: whatagain08 | April 11, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Glanced thru a few posts. What is that putrid stench wafting over from the left? ah, PC? maybe ATOTL is hateful. anything that offends the leftwingers is hateful, but they are all saints and have no hate in their hearts? Almost every comment here is full of hate and almost everyone from some leftwing saint. In psychology, they call that projecting your miserable thoughts and emotions onto others. Go ahead, spew your leftwing hatred.

Posted by: pcstench | April 11, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

good_angel,

Of course, being politically correct in the south means dancing around the subject of slavery.

McDonnell and Barbour were VERY careful not to offend the delicate sensibilities of Confederate sympathizers.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Spare me your crocodile tears kooks.I just love it when libs act like they care about blacks while ignoring how the democRAT party has destroyed the black family. No problems with blacks killing themselves and degressing as a group, but how dare a Republican make them write a letter on how they are going to be a better citizen when they get their voting rights back. How dare a Republican tell blacks to stop living on welfare and to force them to work for a living. Boo fu kin hoo!!

"IMAGINE NO LIBERALS, WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE!"

Posted by: cschotta1 | April 11, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"not a big deal"

then why attempt to honor the traitorous slave states?

Posted by: newagent99

Many blacks are still slaves, slaves to the federal government. "Not a big deal", eh, just as long as they know how to vote democRAT.

Posted by: cschotta1 | April 11, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse


Gee, just what I would want, a ringing endorsement by a racist from Mississippi who loves his casinos more than he does his poor residents.


Posted by: mortified469 | April 11, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The confederacy should have won the Civil War.This war was fought over states rights, not slavery.Thats the way the Founding Fathers intended it to be.Along comes Dishonest Abe Lincoln .This schittheel was the father of big government.Now the country has degenerated into a full blown plutocracy !!! All hope is gone here !!

Posted by: hyroller56 | April 11, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't see what the big deal is, we have one good old boy covering up for another good old boy. You can't possibly be surprised.

Posted by: shipfreakbo214 | April 11, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Hm.

Confederate Month: Celebrating the Southern Cracker...

They're so dumb, and they have absolutely no CLUE...

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | April 11, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The Civil War was an act of Treason, promoted by an aristocracy to protect their economic interests in slavery but fought on their behalf by poor whites who still haven't figured out how the Southern establishment suckers them.
There is nothing in the Civil War for the South to be proud of.

Posted by: djah | April 11, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

""Maybe they should talk to my Democratic legislature, which has done the exactly same thing in Mississippi for years...I"

Babour is a LIAR. the democrats' proclamatioin honors all , not just confederate soldiers..

see the difference GOP?

Posted by: newagent99 | April 11, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

pcstench,

It's true, most Americans of good will have very little love for the Confederate cause. Those who value cheap labor more than freedom and liberty are unworthy of celebration.

Views in the south are obviously much more conflicted.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

This is news?

The Old South racist Republican Governor of Mississippi defends the Old South racist Republican Governor of Virgina?

You might as well write about the Pope denying more child abuse cover ups.

Posted by: areyousaying | April 11, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

The confederacy should have won the Civil War.This war was fought over states rights, not slavery.

Posted by: hyroller56 |

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And those States rights meant also giving the States the right to own Slaves.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | April 11, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Saying that today's blacks are slaves to the govt is an insulting trivialization of true slavery, as America practiced it. All those who died in crowded passage to the US, those beaten to death, those raped, those whipped, those in chains, those separated from family -- their lives were basically like someone not motivated to work because he can get a welfare check? If today's whites had to live for a week the way a slave in 1860 lived, they wouldn't be defending any proclamations honoring the enslavers.

Posted by: hitpoints | April 11, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"I don't know what you would say about slavery, but anybody that thinks that you have to explain to people that slavery is a bad thing--I think that goes without saying." Exactly right--Barbour and his kind don't know what you'd say about slavery, so it goes without saying. The necrotic spirit of the Old South lives. Zombieland.

Posted by: glacialerratic | April 11, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Hm.

Confederate Month: Celebrating the Southern Cracker...

They're so dumb, and they have absolutely no CLUE...

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003


Intelligent enough not to vote for a failed community organizer as POTUS, so what's your excuse?

VOTE DEMOCRAT, IT'S EASIER THAN WORKING

Posted by: cschotta1 | April 11, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Barbour may be a Democrat, but he's still a bubba redneck.

Posted by: kurthunt

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Since when does a Democrat get to be Chairman of the Republican Governors Association?

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | April 11, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

GOP'ers know how to rally the base, but they don't have anything worthwhile to say.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 11, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I would like someone, anyone, to provide historical information about Lincoln and/or the Federal government of the 1850s-60's being about "big government", beyond Lincoln's use of military power to assert that states could not leave the Union. And for any who claim the South seceded because Lincoln was the father of big government - do you know that secession was before Lincoln even took office and could institute any "big government" things you're claiming?

Posted by: hitpoints | April 11, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Who is enslaving all the young black men that sit around their doors in south Chicago, Washington D.C., Harlem, or Detroit? Who keeps them from going to the library to learn something and better themselves. As a person with a background of being very poor, with no running water in our house until I was 12, I managed to get off my a** and learn enough to be a successful engineer in the high technology business. Being poor didn't keep me from dressing neatly and speaking correct English any more than it did Thomas Sowell. Most of the so called down trodden blacks that, like their liberal friends, bring up discrimination and slavery as an excuse for being lazy filthy talking crack heads had a better chance than I did to get an education. Most live in cities a bus ride from great libraries and universities. I lived in the backwoods in a very rural area that had none of that. The confederacy didn't cause the problems in the black community. I am 67 years old and I can remember when most black parents were married and had a work ethic. Most were church going decent people. Welfare and "free everything" provided by the federal government via the Democrats and liberals helped destroy a large part of the black community. It wasn't the south, slavery, or prejudice.

Posted by: good_angel | April 11, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Mississippi had two memorable twentieth century legislators, Sen. Bilbo and Rep. Rankin. The spirit of the pair lives on in the state flag:

http://www.50states.com/flag/msflag.htm

This will be a far more interesting sesquicentennial than anyone could have imagined.

The civil war was a stupid act on the part of the confederates, including Texas, my state. Slavery was going to die out in just a few decades. Chattel slavery only exists today in The Sudan and Mauritania. Debt slavery exists in India, but is not as severe a human rights deprivation.

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

cschotta1,

The issue of slavery goes beyond race. Ultimately, it's a belief that humans are not property. It's keeping faith with the ideas of John Locke and Thomas Jefferson.

It means that even white trash like yourself should be treated no differently than anyone else in the eyes of the law; it means that even you should have a voice in the direction that this country takes -- no matter how ill-informed your reasons, and no matter how poorly the synapses connect in your brain.

Of course for you, liberty doesn't enter into the picture. It's just a question of race.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

These were Confederate AMERICAN citizens. Shame on all that make THEIR remembrance a shabby tabloid criticism. Way to go Washington post...

Posted by: ProudAmerican1 | April 11, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

One thing is certain, those who least appreciate the true nature and meaning of slavery are those who think "it goes without saying," or that the omission is the equivalent of "diddly." The beauty of free speech is that the fools speak to their won demise. Keep it up Republicans. Talk more to narrow your base more.

Posted by: TJG1 | April 11, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

ProudAmerican1,

Confederate-American in the same sense that a person might say he or she is Mexican-American.

Me, I'm just an American.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Just like dismissing criticism of the Pope as "petty gossip," the Republicans just do not get that they are riding on and fueling a wave of racism with their hate speech, and their narrow minds. The one group for whom the issue of slavery is most important are those who are comfortable saying "it goes without saying" or equate slavery to "diddly." You go Haley!

Posted by: TJG1 | April 11, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

cschotta1,

The issue of slavery goes beyond race. Ultimately, it's a belief that humans are not property. It's keeping faith with the ideas of John Locke and Thomas Jefferson.

It means that even white trash like yourself should be treated no differently than anyone else in the eyes of the law; it means that even you should have a voice in the direction that this country takes -- no matter how ill-informed your reasons, and no matter how poorly the synapses connect in your brain.

Of course for you, liberty doesn't enter into the picture. It's just a question of race.

Posted by: JPRS

I view everyone the same, but unfortunately for you and the democRAT party, they prefer to see blacks as people who can't do for themselves, and that good 'ol Obama is here to save them. Face it, if the democRATS lose the black vote, then they are forever done, adios, which is why they use the race card whenever possible. Have you ever noticed that at the beginning of every election cycle, the first group of people the democRATS go to are blacks, and they tell them that they are fighting for them, that they are victims of descrimination, that by voting democRAT, then there will be HOPE and CHANGE. Then after the election is over, they vanish, and the blacks are still in the same situation they were before. How ironic, no?

Posted by: cschotta1 | April 11, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

One racist redneck defends another. McConnell's political future will end with this one term. I hope he enjoys it while it lasts.

Posted by: PepperDr | April 11, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Actually, McDonnell is well positioned to completely erase the error of his proclamation. Virginia would, by most, be considered the most important state in the civil war. As Governor, Mr. McDonnell has a unique opportunity to lead the other governors with civil war battlefields, including Mr. Barbour, to the creation of a sesquicentennial better than anyone could have imagined. The data about the civil war is massive. Much is on the web, but infinitely more can be put there, if the states just provide a small amount of funding to their universities. The state could sponsor conferences, live and on line, that would bring together scholars from all over the country to present analyses and findings for all of us civil war nuts to enjoy. There seems to be more about slavery and the civil war every time I check the web. Just found this dandy:


http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/alhtml/malhome.html

Likely, most already knew of it, but you must admit it is quite cool.

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

This thing that calls itself the Republican Party is no longer a viable political formation. Its base of religious zealots and white male voters can no longer win national elections. The party is destined to devolve into a small white supremacist splinter group, to sit there alongside the KKK, the Aryan Nations, and various skinhead formations like a carbuncle on the rump of the USA.

But this is all in the future and only if we make it there. Today the Republicans are making a serious run at destroying this country. Rather than trying to assuage them, I frankly do not understand why President Obama does not make a patriotic effort to crush this clear and present danger to our nation.

Posted by: natturner | April 11, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

When in the world is the American people going to grow up. The blacks have been playing this card for way too long.It's getting a bit stale. If they lived in Australia they would be told to "grow up".
Ignore these little minds that have nothing better to do than pick on other people.They are insignificant.Slavery To them,slavery is ok to keep bringing up, but talk of the holocaust and they say enough already.Forget it,its gone.

Posted by: captgrumpy | April 11, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, if it's good enough for Haley Barbour....it's even worse than we first thought.

Posted by: sarahabc | April 11, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The liberals are trying their best to demean the people in the TEA Party movement, because they can see the arising of freedom loving Americans across this land. They know unless they do something to destroy this movement the liberals have had it for decades after what the current administration has done to damage this country. The black, Hispanic, Asian, white and other kinds of patriots in the conservative movement know the game the leftist pro-socialists are playing and it will not work. The leftist are afraid they will not be able to feed at the public trough much longer. The demonizing of the governor of Virginia will not work. Race baiting will not work. We are united and we are strong. The TEA Party is just the tip of the spear that will take our country back.

Posted by: good_angel | April 11, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

In other words, Governor Barbour is suggesting Virginia follow the "bright and shining" example of the cradle of American slavery - a state that is virtually dead last in every measurable statistic that is related to progress. What a laughable proposition..:-)The delusion and ignorance of these Southern Governors never ceases to amaze me.

Posted by: Obamarama1 | April 11, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I frankly do not understand why President Obama does not make a patriotic effort to crush this clear and present danger to our nation.

Posted by: natturner


I think idiots like yourself should be more worried about what Obama's doing to the democRAT party. The USS Obama is a sinking ship, and democRATS are retiring rather than drown for the Messiah.

Barack Hussein Obama-"ONE AND DONE"

Posted by: cschotta1 | April 11, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Barbour got it right...a media created distraction that is silly and panders to the professional victims who find comfort in the sound of their own whining.To have our "post racial" president participate in this charade is particularly offensive to all Americans of any color.

Posted by: bowspray | April 11, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

cschotta1,

You may say you view "everyone the same" yet you make sweeping generalizations about people based on their skin color alone.

That says it right there.

As far as voting patterns go, the GOP would probably do much better in its outreach efforts if it thought before dedicating a month to celebrating "Confederate History".

As far as the population as a whole goes, most Americans would be much better off not voting for any Republican -- especially considering the damage that Republican presidents have done to the financial security of everyone but the richest of the rich.

After almost 50 years of stability in our financial markets, we've had the two biggest collapses in the final year of two-term GOP administrations. The rich have gotten richer at the expense of everyone else, that's the reality. Poor whites and poor blacks alike have seen their opportunities and wages decline. Race isn't the central factor.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

This is the example of "mainstream America" Republicans conspire to hype and delude the masses. They have not turned the calendar past 1860.

Posted by: TeddyRoosevelt | April 11, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

The first letter in the collection is from Andrew Jackson to Andrew Crawford, 1 May 1833 with a superb paragraph all should read:

I have had a laborious task here -- but nullification is dead, and its actors & [excitiers?] will only be remembered by the people to be execrated for their wicked designs to sever & destroy the only good government on the Globe, and that prosperity and happiness we enjoy over every other portion of the world. Hemans gallows ought to be the fate of all such ambitious men who would involve their country in civil wars, and all the evils in its train that they might reign & ride on its whirlwinds & direct the Storm-- The free people of these United States have spoken, and consigned these wicked demagogues to their proper doom-- Take care of your nullifiers -- you have them amongtist you-- Let them meet with the indignant frowns of every man who loves his Country-- The tareff, it is now well known, was a mere pretext -- its burthen was on your course wollens -- by the law of July 1832 -- course woollens, was reduced to five pr cent for the benefit of the South Mr Clays bill takes it up & classes it with woollens, at 50 percent, reduces it gradually down to 20 prcent, and there it is to remain and Mr Calhoun & all the nullifiers agree to the principle-- The cash duties & home valuation, will be equal to 15 prcent more, and after the year 1842 -- you pay on course wollens 35 prcent -- if this is not protection, I cannot understand -- therefore the tariff was only the pretext and disunion & a Southern confederacy the real object-- The next pretext will be the negro, or slavery question-

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mal:@field(DOCID+@lit(d0002500))

Mr. Jackson believed, as I do, that it is a dull mind that cannot think of more than one way in which to spell a word.

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Aren't the majority of those who call themselves Tea Bagger's the same rowdy group of folks that called themselves "republicans" prior to there being a tea bag "movement"? The same folks that called Obama a terrorist during the campaign? They sing from the same hymnal. They were very loud and screamed of "polls" during the campaign, and at the end of the day, they lost.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party are right-wing patsies played by the criminal crony capitalists that have wrecked the banks, housing, health care, energy and just about anything deregulation lets them get their hands on.

Posted by: glacialerratic | April 11, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Typical Republican elephant manure - trying to minimize their responsibility for the relentless racism of the GOP while marginalizing the very minorities they're trying to pander to. I guess "stupid is as stupid does."

Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | April 11, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"Blinded by the Right" instead of "Blinded by the light" should be the theme song of the Republican Party. It seems that slavery "is not an issue" to the leadership and they can go about pretending that now is the time to wage the second Civil War. Republican leaders talk about "secession" about "nullification" about "states rights" and about being faithfull to the ORIGINAL Constitution where black men counted as 2/3ds and women did not count at all.
Tea Party people should be very careful about "blindly" following the Republican Crowd which does not believe in individual rights, restraint of spending when they are in power, and very frankly about the American Constitution. Evidence is now very clear that the only Constitution that the Republican Party cares about is the Constitution of the South.

Posted by: AZdave | April 11, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is the governor of the most racist state in the Union.Why should his word mean anything to anybody? I'm sure the southern states would love to secede from the Union,as governor Rick Perry of Texas, suggested.As a matter of fact, any state that doesn't like Obama's presidency probably thinks they should secede too.This is called dog whistle politics today, everyone gets the meaning....uppity negroes.

Posted by: paprikaofm | April 11, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

good_angel,

Most Americans with an education view Tea-Baggers with skepticism. Basically the movement is Bush's base dressed up in period dress.

We hear "No Taxation" but the Tea-Baggers seem to ignore the whole "Representation" part of the original equation.

We hear complaints about "States Rights" along the lines of the Neo-Confederate to justify slavery, but we don't hear much understanding from the Tea-Baggers about why we even have a Constitution instead of Articles of Confederation as our governing document.

We see "down with socialism" and "don't cut my medicare" uttered in the same breath. The Tea-Bagger movement would be mostly ignored if it wasn't for the fact that it has some very friendly patrons with very deep pockets based in Washington DC. The Neo-Plantation owners have found their base.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

You know, it really is amazing how naive and dumb you libs are. From FDR to LBJ now to Comrade Obozo you do everything you can to create a state of dependency in people on the gov't. In my eyes these liberal icons are have enslaved America, and right now, Comrade Obozo is Massa. The difference is that this time instead of blacks being sent out to the fields to pick cotton, he's sending all of us out.

You don't think this is an assault on our liberties? Consider this. Comrade Obozo is raising a small Army of 16000 IRS agents to make sure that you do what he says. Is this much different from the roaming bands who use to hunt down slaves who were trying to escape and get their freedom???

To me, the left is synonomous with slave traders. They take this paternalistic attitude towards us, just like Massa did 150 years ago. He knows better. Over my dead body!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR YOUR EMANCIPATION FROM GOV'T SERVITUDE!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

It's just an issue of consideration and common decency. You don't make comments that you know are going to hurt some of the people in your audience of fellow workers, friends, family, and acquaintances. It's impolite; inconsiderate; hurtful. There is nothing uplifting about it or supportive of the public at large.

If it was a mistake, then the governor should apologize effusively, and determine not to make such a mistake again. Such an apology should be accepted, and the issue should die, assuming there are no future such utterances of social impropriety.

If it was not a mistake, then it was an almost unforgivable faux pas.

Posted by: SecularHumanist1 | April 11, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse


You Liberals are idiots. Here you have Obama, Clyburn and Lewis calling the Clintons racist in the SC Primary. Then appointing Hillary SOS and using Bill as an Obama adviser.

Calling the Tea Party racist terrorist and you have your Liberal gangs killing and maiming each other in Southeast DC.

How many folks have the Tea Party folks hurt? How many folks have been killed by Liberal gangs over th past year all over this country. More than Iraq, right? Obama needed 22 cars just to go to church in Southeast D C.

How about a little honesty.

Posted by: bnw173 | April 11, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Vote Republican for continued unemployment.

Posted by: Maddogg | April 11, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

”The Juwes are not the men to be blamed for nothing…”

Posted by: hyroller56 | April 11, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

From FDR to LBJ the wage of the typical American worker doubled. The economy doubled.

In a market economy Money is Power. Money is Freedom.

When tea-baggers talk about "Freedom" and "Liberty" they are talking about the "Freedom and Liberty" of tyrants to do whatever they want, not unlike the old large plantation owners did.

They aren't talking about equality of opportunity or equality under the law. They want to replace the independence of the many and the dependence of a few on the state, with a dependence of everyone on feudal lords.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

It goes without saying, huh? One would have thought 40 years after World War II that it didn't need to be said that Nazism was a bad thing, but there was Ronald Reagan laying a wreath on the graves of Nazi soldiers at Bitburg, Germany. Republicans are famously clueless about things like this, except when they're being hypocritical and dishonest.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Mississippi's on board? Virginia must be on the right track. Because, really, no one gets the 21st century like Mississippi.

Posted by: Bethesdan | April 11, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The prevailing philosophy among certain people is, "if there is any chance that a person's remarks could be misunderstood as to indicate racism, that person is a racist."
Gov. Barbour is right, Virginia's governor at no time endorsed slavery as the overractionaries love to say for reasons known only to themselves.

Posted by: kls1 | April 11, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"making 'a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddl[e]y'."

Maybe because Bo Diddley was ... Black?

Talk about putting out the fire with gasoline!??!? I always thought that former RNC Chair Haley Barbour was a shrewd operator, at least. Looks like not so much.

Posted by: HartWms | April 11, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

@a1965bogdog: Are you saying that fast-rewind back to the last 8 years is the direction that America should be going in? You complain about Obama and the expansion of government, which factually saw it's greatest expansion under GWB.

Following your argument, the Republicans are the LAST party we should be looking to for responsible government. Irrespective of how one sees the Democrats.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"making 'a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddl[e]y'."

Maybe because Bo Diddley was ... Black?

Talk about putting out the fire with gasoline!??!? I always thought that former RNC Chair Haley Barbour was a shrewd operator, at least. Looks like not so much.

Posted by: HartWms | April 11, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

cschotta1,

You may say you view "everyone the same" yet you make sweeping generalizations about people based on their skin color alone.

-Nice try lib, real nice try. The problem is that too many blacks feel they are victims, that they deserve to take from someone else for what happened over 150 years ago. I believe that anyone, with proper education, hard work, pride and dedication can live the American dream. Yet too many have been told by the democRAT party that they can't do alone, that those liberal elitists know what's best for them. By the way, do you really think liberals like Pelosi would dare hang around regular hard working black people? lol

As far as voting patterns go, the GOP would probably do much better in its outreach efforts if it thought before dedicating a month to celebrating "Confederate History".

-Educate yourself on the Civil War before you open your yap!

As far as the population as a whole goes, most Americans would be much better off not voting for any Republican -- especially considering the damage that Republican presidents have done to the financial security of everyone but the richest of the rich.

-Wow, such ignorance. So easy to cut and past from the liberal playbook, eh? What's wrong with rich people keeping more of their money? I guess with your "entitlement" mentality, that those that work harder should give to those that don't work at all, eh? And I guess you also believe that all "rich" people are Republicans, eh? And if you want to talk about the economy, then please don't forget all those liberal entitlement programs that are a financial burden to our economy.

After almost 50 years of stability in our financial markets, we've had the two biggest collapses in the final year of two-term GOP administrations.

-Then you should as Obama, why as a US Senator, he refused to have Fannie regulated, even after the signs that it was going to collapse. Could it be that since he was the second highest recipient of donations from Fannie, that he was paid for? Or perhaps the great Messiah was to busy running for president to give a damn. And how ironic lib, that the economy started to tank after Pig Pelosi and the rest of the democRAT party took over Congress-now that's someone thing to whine about!

The rich have gotten richer at the expense of everyone else, that's the reality. Poor whites and poor blacks alike have seen their opportunities and wages decline. Race isn't the central factor.

-The rich have lost alot of money, not that I'm crying. Unfortunately money talks, in both parties, which is why I despise what has happened to our country. FYI-alot of those teabaggers just want their country back.

Posted by: JPRS

Posted by: cschotta1 | April 11, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

To me, the left is like the 3 monkeys: See no evil, hear no evil, say no evil. The problem is that the Comrade Obozo Communist Healthcare IS evil. It sounds great. I'll give Comrade Obozo, Chairwoman Maolosi, and Hairless Reid some credit. They do a good tap dance. They tell you how wonderful it is, all you have to do is submit. You know, that's what Xerxes told Leonidas, submit. Leonidas kicked Xerxes @$5 at Thermopylae.

Don't worry. There's plenty of us out there. The majority of Americans, in fact!!!

As for the Condederate month thing, it's about remembering the sacrifices of one's ancestors in defending their homes. Stop your race baiting!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

When it was obvious years ago that Nike and other Chinese sneaker manufacturers were using sweat labor aka slavery (reports of them locked in the factories at night) to produce their shoes, did Americans stop buying shoes?

NO...

Conditions are still awful for those Chinese workers and we know it but we still buy Chinese. The reason American companies are over there is to save a buck and avoid any overview of working conditions or pay for safety.

Posted by: Mnnngj | April 11, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Elevator shoe if you have any education in facts whatsoever read this....http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/features/freedom/history/story.html

it is the first model for all subsequent secssion declarations. That's right, SLAVERY is the reason for their TREASON. In their own words and you can't sugar coat that.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Racists are everywhere. Barbour comes from the same mold as Virginia's governor. Mississippi and Virginia are currently tied for the most outlandish biggot award.
Sad to think that people actually believe him.

Posted by: R2And | April 11, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Greg3... Have a nice trip and don't wait too long.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

As pointed out by newagent99, haley barbour is a damn liar. He deliberately misrepresents the proclamation by Democrats in Mississippi, which honors soldiers on both sides. Of course, republicans would have to stay silent if they couldn't lie about things.

Posted by: JovialReaper | April 11, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Well for them it does not amount to diddly but, for we minorities let me some it up-Freak you dumb a.s.s.

So, murder, hanging, burning, torturing, raping and etc. means nothing. Okay, try it on for size-all I am saying.

Get the hell out of here!!!!!! Some of the people that have been on CNN really came from the "Funny farm"!

History lesson-these States all formed a Union-SC; Va;Mississippi; Alabama; and part of NC. These jokers set militias in and just went fool. Not to mention the Naval bombardments and havoc on many Blacks and other minorities.

I guess the Indian Massacres were also "collateral damage" and not anything to get upset about. How about the Spanish American War-so, they just want to put their wicked spin on History and say oh it was just the period and slavery was just the thing to do. Screw ya. No man; woman or child should be subjected to such crap. Like I say have your little celebrations and re-enactments and the like but, don't think it won't happen to you one day. And perhaps that is the one thing you fear the most is the shoe going up your sorry rear ends.

Posted by: Scar1 | April 11, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Look, people are free to express their ideas and opinions. The rest of us who are within earshot and listen are free to express ourselves. When it comes to voting, I would remember that these two men are people who I would NOT want to represent me in any way shape or form. They are ignorant of history and are divorced from today's reality.

Let these people run their mouths as it is their right. The majority know their way is a path of divide and destroy all those who oppose them and will not vote them back into office.

Posted by: skramsv | April 11, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

From FDR to LBJ the wage of the typical American worker doubled. The economy doubled.

In a market economy Money is Power. Money is Freedom.

When tea-baggers talk about "Freedom" and "Liberty" they are talking about the "Freedom and Liberty" of tyrants to do whatever they want, not unlike the old large plantation owners did.

They aren't talking about equality of opportunity or equality under the law. They want to replace the independence of the many and the dependence of a few on the state, with a dependence of everyone on feudal lords.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse
**************
You know, it is amazing to me how you libs just slobbery on about Comrade Obozo. You really must be ignorant to think that what he is setting up is anything but a system like feudal lords, or like Massa on the plantation.

Get ready to start picking cotton. Massa Obozo said you had to!!! Else he's sicing his 16000 IRS agents on you!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR YOUR EMANCIPATION AND TO SAVE THE UNION!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are the party of Diddly.

Posted by: dudh | April 11, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

We need a viable third party in America. While I appreciate the difficult task that Obama has in cleaning up the fiscal and domestic mess he inherited from the Republicans, having to choose between the devil and satan with legislators on the take from corporate interests is really no choice at all.

If I had to choose my poison, I'll stick with the Democrats.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Reconstruction ended far too soon. Those traitor neo-rebs need to be reminded that the UNION won the war--and that slavery as well as Jim Crow are dead and gone. Are they itching for still another go?

Posted by: jasm917 | April 11, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Obozo's accomplishments: Jack, and Squat!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse


Around the time Gingrich closed down the Federal Government back during the mid nineties I visited Vicksburg Mississippi. I
had to tell my friend that the South was different. The Civil War
was (and is) still a hot topic there. For instance, we visited the "Gray and Blue Museum." That says a lot.

What says volumes more is a short tour of the battlefield. It had to be a short tour since Mr. Gingrich had stopped government in its tracks and that included fully opening the battlefield for inspection.

However, what we say was quite the statement. The graves of both Northern and Southern soldiers were marked where they fell by unit and that meant geography...such as the notional: New York 18th Regiment. And what we learned was the determination of the Federal Government to maintain the Union at whatever the cost. The loss of life was palpable. The Union would be preserved.

I suggest these idiots who are making lite of slavery, debasing any credibility of 'states rights' take a step through the battleground and come up with something a bit stronger than this cheap, jingoist rhetoric that befits a 6 year old.

You debase whatever honor bestowed upon the Veterans of both the Gray and the Blue when you trivialize and misrepresent.

There are photos of Veterans reunions at the battlefields; such as Gettysburg that were taken around the time of the First World War. Both sides are greeting each other arm in arm. They certainly have no desire to repeat this conflict and are more than happy to have laid their arms aside along with any idiotic speech.

I'd like to see these governors step into the breech and receive a taste. Gutless wonders.

Posted by: jato11 | April 11, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

KKK, This time no sheets heralded by palin, mccain, limbaugh, beck, tea party, etc. This is sickening! Why is there so much hatred and condoning of such. EVERYBODY's blood is red when it is spilled and no one person loss is greater than another's. May God have mercy on us all.

Posted by: cntnulprze | April 11, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I think a Nuclear Arms Treaty with Russia is a tad bit more than Jack and Squat.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

"Barbour's main point was that Mississippi's own Democratic-controlled state legislature has adopted similar resolutions in honor of Confederate soldiers."

My God. In Mississippi even the Democrats are racists.

Posted by: darkglobe5 | April 11, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Much of this angst over the Confederate history proclamation is little more than "hero envy" on the part of the lunatic left. After they get through MLK, Rosa Parks,Matthew Sheppard and Caesar Chavez, what's left?

Posted by: slim2 | April 11, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Look, people are free to express their ideas and opinions. The rest of us who are within earshot and listen are free to express ourselves. When it comes to voting, I would remember that these two men are people who I would NOT want to represent me in any way shape or form. They are ignorant of history and are divorced from today's reality.

Let these people run their mouths as it is their right. The majority know their way is a path of divide and destroy all those who oppose them and will not vote them back into office.

Posted by: skramsv | April 11, 2010 6:16 PM
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I, for one, am right proud that I voted for Bob McDonnell. He's a good honest man.

You know, you losers really don't miss a chance to start frothing like Rabid Dogs. It reminds me of when Trent Lott paid tribute to the dying Strom Thurmond with some very nice platitudes. You losers twisted what was a nice send off for a man who was going home to die into something that it never was. Trent Lott was paying tribute to an elder statesman in the Senate. You jerks twisted his words so that it looked like he supported Jim Crow laws. What's more, your lackeys in the press went along with the gig and smeared the name of a good man. You losers are unethical and immoral.

Don't worry. Your repudiation is coming in November. We're kicking your @$5 to the curb at the polls come November. Count on it!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Mississippi Gov. Barbour reference to "NIT" was in regard to himself for being a stupid "NITWIT" for the statement he made in an effort to support Virgina's Gov. McDonnell ommission.

Racism must run deep in the vains of these idiot Republicans! The GOP has seem better days on race relations but you would have to go back to the time of Lincoln to figure that out.

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

@slim2: whats left is "freedom" something the southern right have a very tough time with accepting. They lost the war. Those days are long gone and will never return.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I think a Nuclear Arms Treaty with Russia is a tad bit more than Jack and Squat.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 6:27 PM
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A treaty that only Neville Chamberlain could love. And Adolph Hitler.

Weakness invites attack. Comrade Obozo just doesn't get it.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"IMAGINE NO LIBERALS, WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WOULD BE!"Posted by: cschotta1

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A Nazi slogan if ever there was one.

Posted by: twm1 | April 11, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

askgees ... along with Christmas and Thanksgiving which I bet you take off (if you work).

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The North lost sons and brothers in the Civil War also. We've always remembered them along with all the other veterans of our wars. So why does the South feel the need for a separate remembrance of the Confederate troops?

Maybe the North should play the same card as the South - with a Union History Month. We will remember the men who left their farms and shops to risk their lives far from home, wrestling victory from people who rebelled against and launched an unprovoked attack upon the United States of America, treated people as properties, broke up slave families and raped slave women. Their military leaders violated the oaths they took as officers and betrayed their bretheren.

If the Confederacy had survived, it would have evolved along the lines of the plantation states of the Latin Americas, with a small oligarchy controlling the government, the courts, and the military, riding herd on a poorly educated and impoverished multitude, their repressions fomenting communist movements and rebellions. At the same time the United States would have been weaker and less able to bring peace to the wars in Europe; the Confederacy may even have allied with the Axis. The Free World may have been smaller and less free.

So let us celebrate this month the brave Northern soldiers whose sacrifices preserved the Union, freed the slaves, and advanced the cause of a true people's democracy. Let us parade our colors in the street and make speeches honoring our leaders and our citizens who defeated the rebellion that called itself the Confederacy.

And if we leave out parts of the history, refuse to acknowledge the other side's point of view or the damages done by the war and reconstruction, we have the honorable Haley Barbour's assurance that it is no big deal!

Posted by: j3hess | April 11, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

What is new when Mississippi supports racism once more?

Posted by: funfun881 | April 11, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

No one would know or care who McDonnel or Barbour were if they were not so close to the capital city.
Civil war issues are for dead or as good as dead people to fret about. Way I look at it, at last we ended the English Civil war 150 years ago and put down the Kings Men, who were the slavers. Slavery came with royalty. The Slave Trade was a Royal monopoly, and the Kings agents hung more people in America than England for resisting him.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | April 11, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

These white southerners just don't get it. I'm a fourth-generation Montanan and thankfully have never lived in the south, but I've taken a couple of extended trips to the southern USA. It felt like I was leaving reality and entering a third world country.

Seriously! I hated the all the outright bigotry I encountered down south (it was truly amazing and disgusting to behold) and yes, Haley, your buddy McDonnell made a rather large gaffe.

Posted by: mavisdarling | April 11, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

You know, it is amazing to me how you libs just slobbery on about Comrade Obozo. You really must be ignorant to think that what he is setting up is anything but a system like feudal lords, or like Massa on the plantation.

Get ready to start picking cotton. Massa Obozo said you had to!!! Else he's sicing his 16000 IRS agents on you!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR YOUR EMANCIPATION AND TO SAVE THE UNION!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

_____________

The Union, it must be preserved.--Andrew Jackson.

Some might question the relevance of civil war, what with chattel slavery's being a non-issue for almost all the planet. Although I would disagree, given the importance of slavery in our history, I would also argue that the other part of the civil war, the preservation of the union, is exceedingly relevant in today's world, which increasingly appears to denigrate the cosmopolite. Our country is not a nation, in the sense that it does not bear a particular people; we defined people to include all peoples in order to create a "nation". The history of Yugoslavia bears witness to the disastrous results generally produced by partition. Does anyone really believe Kosovo a marvelous State?

If so, peruse this article:

http://www.eurasiareview.com/2010/04/serbia-official-talks-possible-kosovo.html

You see, insufficient partition was undertaken!

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I think the Republicans will win quite a few seats this fall but no where near what they need to control either house. The reason will be the "lock and load" rhetoric of leaders like Palin and Newt and the appalling insensitivity of Michael Steele and now Haley Barbour. Yee gods! Are they tone deaf! Slavery does not mean "diddly?" Couple that with "Hell, No!" from Rep Boehner and you are beginning to scare the hell out of us independents. Then add in all the smoke that Rush and Beckers can blow and many of us will fear blood in the streets. We WILL run the other way as fast as we can.

Posted by: tarryh | April 11, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

No one would know or care who McDonnel or Barbour were if they were not so close to the capital city.
Civil war issues are for dead or as good as dead people to fret about. Way I look at it, at last we ended the English Civil war 150 years ago and put down the Kings Men, who were the slavers. Slavery came with royalty. The Slave Trade was a Royal monopoly, and the Kings agents hung more people in America than England for resisting him.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | April 11, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

The North lost sons and brothers in the Civil War also. We've always remembered them along with all the other veterans of our wars. So why does the South feel the need for a separate remembrance of the Confederate troops?

Maybe the North should play the same card as the South - with a Union History Month. We will remember the men who left their farms and shops to risk their lives far from home, wrestling victory from people who rebelled against and launched an unprovoked attack upon the United States of America, treated people as properties, broke up slave families and raped slave women. Their military leaders violated the oaths they took as officers and betrayed their bretheren.

If the Confederacy had survived, it would have evolved along the lines of the plantation states of the Latin Americas, with a small oligarchy controlling the government, the courts, and the military, riding herd on a poorly educated and impoverished multitude, their repressions fomenting communist movements and rebellions. At the same time the United States would have been weaker and less able to bring peace to the wars in Europe; the Confederacy may even have allied with the Axis. The Free World may have been smaller and less free.

So let us celebrate this month the brave Northern soldiers whose sacrifices preserved the Union, freed the slaves, and advanced the cause of a true people's democracy. Let us parade our colors in the street and make speeches honoring our leaders and our citizens who defeated the rebellion that called itself the Confederacy.

And if we leave out parts of the history, refuse to acknowledge the other side's point of view or the damages done by the war and reconstruction, we have the honorable Haley Barbour's assurance that it is no big deal!

Posted by: j3hess | April 11, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

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You know, there should be a Union History Month. Nothing wrong with that.

However, what you libs just don't get is that the Confederate History month in Virginia (the capital of the Confederacy) is about the history of VA and her people. The history is what it is. It can't be changed.

What the people in VA are remembering is the sacrifices of their citizens who fought and died defending their cause (a bad cause, I might add). It's not about celebrating slavery or Jim Crow. It's about remembering the privations (hunger, insufficient clothing, maiming, death) that these people's ancestors suffered. It's Heritage, not Hate.

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

rplat. that Republican party died with Lincoln. You guys have nothing to point to lateley. You've even alienated Colin Powell which was you best shot with Americans of color. Mike Steele is a loser and he's making you look even worse. Haley Barbour speaks for himself.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

To quote one Tom Lehrer song:

"Old times they are not forgotten,
Whuppin' slaves and sellin' cotton . . ."

Posted by: chuck8 | April 11, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

@A1965bigdog: I see you are not a big fan of reading. It was a treaty that "reduced" arms. Of which kill indiscriminately. Yet, did not require of either to destroy their arsenals completely. If you have enough arms to destroy the world over 12 times, I imagine a reduction was in order.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Southerners don't like to admit it but there's a lot of underground racism in their culture. I know I lived there. In Charleston SC there's a store which sells t-shirts and bumper stickers which say "If I'd known they [African-Americans] were gonna be such a pain in the neck, I'd have picked my own cotton."

A friend of mine was recently in NC where she was nearly run off the road and given the finger because she had an Obama sticker on her car.

The state of Texas has decided that Thomas Jefferson never existed and have replaced him with Thomas Aquinas. Go figger, as they say down there. The Gov. wants to secede.

LET THEM GO. JUST SAW OFF THE WHOLE SOUTH AND FLOAT THEM OUT TO SEA.

The South is a drain on the treasury and (with very few exceptions) contribute absolutely nothing to the intellectual life of this country. (I personally would like to keep New Orleans but they're cajuns, and I like the food.) Seriously. Who needs them?

By the way, Jeb Bush is a Yankee through and through. Southerners don't have huge summer houses in Kennebunkport. He's a transplant. If he is wearing a Confederate Flag he should be ashamed of himself.

Posted by: Afraid4USA | April 11, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

For Republicans Lincoln is a persona no grata. Did the "liberal' media mention or noticed that?

Posted by: rappahanock | April 11, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Steele/McDonnell in 2012

Posted by: James10 | April 11, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Two peas in a pod!

Posted by: dove369 | April 11, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

The State run Compost still has a hard on for Governor McDonnell. Amazing..

Posted by: wewintheylose | April 11, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

twotimetuna.. Where are you from? not all africans were brought here on a slave ship. We have proven beyond a doubt that' slavery not withstanding, we are AMERICANS. The white has hyphenated us but MY Daddy did two tours in Vietnam, his daddy gave up his rank to fight in Belgium and my Great Grand Daddy and his father before him served in the western Army and US Navy respectivley. I also have put my butt on the line so you can write that kinda garbage in this blog, but I don't have to respect you. We are going nowhere and I suggest you take your own advice if you don't like. We don't need your kind of American.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

You know, it is amazing to me how you libs just slobbery on about Comrade Obozo. You really must be ignorant to think that what he is setting up is anything but a system like feudal lords, or like Massa on the plantation.

Get ready to start picking cotton. Massa Obozo said you had to!!! Else he's sicing his 16000 IRS agents on you!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR YOUR EMANCIPATION AND TO SAVE THE UNION!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

_____________

The Union, it must be preserved.--Andrew Jackson.

Some might question the relevance of civil war, what with chattel slavery's being a non-issue for almost all the planet. Although I would disagree, given the importance of slavery in our history, I would also argue that the other part of the civil war, the preservation of the union, is exceedingly relevant in today's world, which increasingly appears to denigrate the cosmopolite. Our country is not a nation, in the sense that it does not bear a particular people; we defined people to include all peoples in order to create a "nation". The history of Yugoslavia bears witness to the disastrous results generally produced by partition. Does anyone really believe Kosovo a marvelous State?

If so, peruse this article:

http://www.eurasiareview.com/2010/04/serbia-official-talks-possible-kosovo.html

You see, insufficient partition was undertaken!

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 6:38 PM
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I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say. However, one of the things that killed the Roman Empire is that they didn't control their borders. Once the barbarians started seeping through...

I do agree there are issues with polyglot societies like Yugoslavia. One of the big things there is you have a witches brew of Catholics vs Orthodox vs Muslims. Those who became Muslims are I'm sure viewed as traitors, even though it has been centuries since the Turks left. Much like in the Middle East today, one would think that the Crusades had happened yesterday.

It is interesting the division of the country. Basically, the old South, plus the plains and Rocky Mountain states. Numerically it's over half the states, but from a House of Representatives standpoint, a close call.

With the Radical Agenda of Comrade Obozo I do fear the outbreak of a Civil War. I don't think it would take much. He's really assaulting our liberties in the name of "The common good". However, in this society, and in our Constitution, the individual counts. Obozo really over reached. The courts WILL shoot it down.

The way this loser is I think he's going to make President Peanuthead look like the model of efficiency.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, if this doesn't emphatically confirm the institutionalized racism of the Republican Party, I don't know what will.

Tell me, where they wearing their white sheets (Republican formal wear at Party functions) in New Orleans?

Posted by: jrw1 | April 11, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

They should follow the advise of the RNC Chairman : It's alright to make errors as long as you are not distracted by it.

Posted by: gopstupor | April 11, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, do the Germans, Italians, etc. recognize their WW2 dead soldiers every year? Are the losers not allowed to recognize their war dead even though their cause may not have been good? And these are just rhetorical questions because I really don't care.

Posted by: hc2254 | April 11, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Hogwash . . . engage your brain before you put your mouth in gear. The South lost because the lacked the money and industrial capability to continue the war. Slavery was an unfortunate part of the Confederacy but it does not define the Confederacy.

Posted by: rplat
Then why does every Secession Declaration make it (slavery) it's central issue? Your argument growes weaker with evrey utterance.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

You know, it is amazing to me how you libs just slobbery on about Comrade Obozo. You really must be ignorant to think that what he is setting up is anything but a system like feudal lords, or like Massa on the plantation.

Get ready to start picking cotton. Massa Obozo said you had to!!! Else he's sicing his 16000 IRS agents on you!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR YOUR EMANCIPATION AND TO SAVE THE UNION!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010
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They do? Where? Which Libs? There are several kinds of Libs you know. Do you mean the right wing libs, the neo libs? You cannot mean the left wing libs, they lost big in '72 and never came back. Obama is a neo lib, which is a little to the left of neo cons, but right of center to everybody else.
Today we have the hard right, the soft right, and 'moderates' who are hard/soft right wingers.
lol. Your in hell son. There is no socialists. Just different types of right wing capitalists and aristocrats of all races from all over the world- you can thank Jimmy Carter he took the Democrats to the right, dismantled the New Deal, and crashed the economy to break the back of organised labor 1978 to 1984, in cooperatio with reagan.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | April 11, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

@A1965bigdog: I see you are not a big fan of reading. It was a treaty that "reduced" arms. Of which kill indiscriminately. Yet, did not require of either to destroy their arsenals completely. If you have enough arms to destroy the world over 12 times, I imagine a reduction was in order.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 11, 2010 6:40 PM
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It's the concept of redundancy.

What is really concerning is Comrade Obozo said, no matter what you do to us, we aren't hitting you back. That invites an attack.

The truth is you losers just don't get it. You would have surrendered to the Russians rather than build the B1. Thank God Ronnie got his arms build-up and made Gorby say "Uncle".

What really gets me is you losers just don't see what Comrade Obozo is doing to the nation. He is ceding our prestige in space to the Russians. Rather than build a system to replace the space shuttle, he signed a contract to have the Russians take us to space. Don't you guys care about our national pride???

Don't worry. We're kicking your @$5 to the curb at the polls in November. I will just love watching the apoplexy of the hacks in the lamestream media when you libs crash and burn!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR YOUR EMANCIPATION FROM GOV'T CONTROL AND TO SAVE THE UNION!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

You know, it is amazing to me how you libs just slobbery on about Comrade Obozo. You really must be ignorant to think that what he is setting up is anything but a system like feudal lords, or like Massa on the plantation.

Get ready to start picking cotton. Massa Obozo said you had to!!! Else he's sicing his 16000 IRS agents on you!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR YOUR EMANCIPATION AND TO SAVE THE UNION!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010
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They do? Where? Which Libs? There are several kinds of Libs you know. Do you mean the right wing libs, the neo libs? You cannot mean the left wing libs, they lost big in '72 and never came back. Obama is a neo lib, which is a little to the left of neo cons, but right of center to everybody else.
Today we have the hard right, the soft right, and 'moderates' who are hard/soft right wingers.
lol. Your in hell son. There is no socialists. Just different types of right wing capitalists and aristocrats of all races from all over the world- you can thank Jimmy Carter he took the Democrats to the right, dismantled the New Deal, and crashed the economy to break the back of organised labor 1978 to 1984, in cooperatio with reagan.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | April 11, 2010 6:55 PM
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Obozo? Right of center??? Keep dreaming. What he did will cause 1/6th of our economy to be taken over by the gov't. That's nationalization. That's left wing pinko liberal Communist BS.

Don't worry. What Comrade Obozo, Chairwoman Maolosi, and Hairless Reid passed is unconstitutional. The gov't can't force you to spend YOUR money the way THEY tell you to. It's unconstitutional, and it's unAmerican.

But what's even better is you losers are going to be kicked to the curb in November. It will be fun to watch!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

infantry11.. you cannot possibly be that stupid. That sounds like something someone told you. If came up with that on your own I'd contact my school district and get my money back. England outlawed the slave trade. We did too and allowed it to continue 'cause it was a moneymaker. The cotton gin saw to that. No, the blame is rightly and squarley placed. If we didn ot want the slaves we would have mentionened it tn the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. I suggest you hone your cognitive skills before talking and debating with grownups.

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour, like Bob McDonnell are old time politicos who cannot get beyond the Grandiosity of the Confederacy. These guys have nothing to take us forward. They revel in a time when women knew their place and the "darkies" had to work for free. That has been replaced today with "Right to Work" laws (right to get screwed)and undermining Roe v. Wade. These guys are constantly voted in on an uneducated and over religious electorate who wish to return us all to a past time that only served the Plantation mentality. p.s. Haley, please take the walnuts out of your mouth when you comment on national issues. Otherwise you sound like a moron.

Posted by: fabricmaven1 | April 11, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

It is really sad how feeble minded you libs are. You can't take care of yourself, so you trade your freedom for Comrade Obozo's and Chairwoman Maolosi's and Hairless Reid's promises that they will "take care of you". How subserviant!

I promise you there will be resistance. People will stop filing their 1040's. People will start living cash and carry. People WILL resist!!!

As for the Confederate month thing in VA, it was the capital of the Confederacy. It's part of VA's history. And yes, many people like Robert E. Lee are revered as heros.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

So when is Celebrate White Slavery Month?

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 11, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!Posted by: A1965bigdog

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Vote Republican!! Bring back the policies of Bush-Cheney. Invade and occupy more countries! More tax cuts for the rich with even bigger deficits! More deregulation of banking with more economic destruction!

Posted by: twm1 | April 11, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I think we should stop making a mountain out of mole hill. The democrats are trying to divert the attention from the big problems of jobs and uncontrolled spending. I used to vote democratic but Obama ,Pelosi and Reid have really turned me off and For the first time I am going to vote Republican otherwise this marxist president is change this country into a another Soviet Union.

Posted by: ncvsaxena | April 11, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I thought the nation was pivoting to jobs jobs jobs ?

I thought the Dems were out there explaining the unpopular healthcare law to ignorant Americans ?

But instead for 2 weeks we've heard about racism, hatred, etc from the party that three times nominated segregationist George Wallace as their Presidential candidate. The media eagerly playing along.

The party that founded the KKK - that yes has a former KKK leader in the Senate - the party whos majority OPPOSED the civil rights act of 1964 and did not have a black delegate until 1959.

Yes that would be the modern Democratic Party. the party of hate-baiter Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: pvilso24 | April 11, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour, like Bob McDonnell are old time politicos who cannot get beyond the Grandiosity of the Confederacy. These guys have nothing to take us forward. They revel in a time when women knew their place and the "darkies" had to work for free. That has been replaced today with "Right to Work" laws (right to get screwed)and undermining Roe v. Wade. These guys are constantly voted in on an uneducated and over religious electorate who wish to return us all to a past time that only served the Plantation mentality. p.s. Haley, please take the walnuts out of your mouth when you comment on national issues. Otherwise you sound like a moron.

Posted by: fabricmaven1 | April 11, 2010 7:02 PM
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Ah, I love it when you libs show your true colors. Roe vs. Wade. You know what's really funny? The lady who was "Roe" is now against the decision (rightly so, I might add). It is amazing to me how you libs can so glibly kill an unborn baby. Just amazing.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog... Where is Nazi Germany when you need it?

Posted by: skipfrmdc | April 11, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

wow... lots of venom here... it must be extraordinarily easy to lambaste the states of VA and MS and their fine governors... being a white southerner is just not cool anymore (everyone knows that all white southerners are slave owners)!! There are a few things that white southerners can do to change this perception: 1. join the Democrat Party and adopt its progressive credo 2. every W.S. should scourge his or her self publicly in the town square as penance for owning slaves. 3. Every backwoods southern town should open a "SAKS 5th Ave." 4. W.S. governors should invite Obama to a beer summit. 5. Every W.S. should be required to do one thing every day to demonstrate progress such as being rude and/or displaying an air of indifference towards others. 6. New Yorker magazine should be required reading for every W.S. 7. All traces of the "Old South" should be done away with, i.e., torch all Antebellum homes, Confederacy symbols, Denny's restaurants, shotguns/rifles (with their strong resemblance to Confederate musketry), and that most ubiquitous form of southern transportation: the pickup truck (esp. those of domestic origin). 8. remove all traces/resemblances of southern culture, such as banning country music and Lynyrd Skynyrd from airwaves. 9. All W.S.'s should attend New Age gatherings and Black churches frequently, but should in practice be atheist or agnostic. 10. All W.S. should actively forbid their white daughters from marrying white men, as by marrying African-Americans, Jews, Hispanics, Italians, and other ethnicities that southern culture will receive a much-needed face-lift.
By adopting these guidelines, W.S.'s should be considered to be in the present century/millennium, and all jokes about southern whiteness should cease!

Posted by: drrobert662 | April 11, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's look at the source materials for a moment here. In March of 1861 Alexander Stephens (CSA Vice President) gave his "cornerstone" speech, presenting the ideological foundations of the Confederacy.

Here's an excerpt:
"The prevailing ideas entertained by (Thomas Jefferson) and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

The complete speech text is here: http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76

Posted by: opinionated4 | April 11, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

Of course nowhere in the current law is there a provision for 16,000 new IRS agents. This claim is a made up "fact" that you swallow hook line and sinker because Gingrich says it. What's the truth behind his numbers? Of course, you don't even now how he comes up with that number.

What's more the Constitution contains an amendment regarding taxation -- the government has the authority to enforce Constitutional provisions as well. Maybe you think tax-cheats should be free to evade the law.

Somehow "no taxation without representation" has become just plain-old "no taxation" in the mind of free-lunch Conservatives.

Cheap labor for the rich has been the guiding principle of southern plantation owners for generations. Those values have apparently found an audience in today's GOP.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

For all the whiners out there who did not take American History...
Slavery was an accepted method of agriculture operations in the 1700-1850 time frame inthe US.
The African Slave trade was in existence several hundred years, probably a thousand years before the Colonies existed.
The slave trade was carried out by Africans with other Africans hundreds of years before Europeans got involved. Get over it.
Why is the US the whipping "boy" for slavery? The US did not start the practice. Slavery in the US was a transitioning point into the industrial revolution. 300 hundred years later, we can all agree that slvery is a bad thing. But it still goes on and where is your outrage about that?

Posted by: nosuchluck | April 11, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

>"I don't know what you would say about slavery, but anybody that thinks that you have to explain to people that slavery is a bad thing--I think that goes without saying," he said.>

Crime and terrorism is bad, that goes without saying, right, so let's not talk about it.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 11, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing that there are people out there today that still believe that the Confederate States of America(CSA)succeded from the United States of America simply over state's rights. What these people need to do is read the CSA Constitution. It makes clear that the Confederate States separated from the USA solely over the issue of negro slavery, nothing else. They didn't want the USA to interfere with there "right" to hold black people in bondage. These southern states wanted to continue the "evil" peculiar institution at all cost, even at the cost of the lives of non-slave holders in the south.

Anyone who wants to celebrate the Confederacy in essense wants to celebrate the nostalgia of negro slavery "way down south in Dixie."

Posted by: Chuck907 | April 11, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Racist scum, both of them.

Posted by: solsticebelle | April 11, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

You'd think the Post might find a better use for the vast time and energy it is putting into this silly campaign to gin up some kind of bogus controversy. It's hilarious actually, and at this point it is damaging the Post's credibility (such as it is).

It's almost as silly as Howell Raines's futile campaign a few years back at the New York Times trying to make an issue out of the membership at Augusta National. Then as now, everybody yawned.

If this kind of thing is the biggest injustice that journalists are capable of uncovering, may Zeus preserve us.

Posted by: thebump | April 11, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

"wapo is helping the dems find ways to demonize the Republicans..." ??? The "wapo" doesn't need any help, Republicans are doing it for them.

Posted by: pjohn2 | April 11, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say. However, one of the things that killed the Roman Empire is that they didn't control their borders. Once the barbarians started seeping through...

I do agree there are issues with polyglot societies like Yugoslavia. One of the big things there is you have a witches brew of Catholics vs Orthodox vs Muslims. Those who became Muslims are I'm sure viewed as traitors, even though it has been centuries since the Turks left. Much like in the Middle East today, one would think that the Crusades had happened yesterday.

It is interesting the division of the country. Basically, the old South, plus the plains and Rocky Mountain states. Numerically it's over half the states, but from a House of Representatives standpoint, a close call.

With the Radical Agenda of Comrade Obozo I do fear the outbreak of a Civil War. I don't think it would take much. He's really assaulting our liberties in the name of "The common good". However, in this society, and in our Constitution, the individual counts. Obozo really over reached. The courts WILL shoot it down.

The way this loser is I think he's going to make President Peanuthead look like the model of efficiency.

Posted by: A1965bigdog |
...........................................

What killed the Roman Republic was unrestrained, unregulated capitialism.
Then a despotic tyrancial state emerged from the anarchy, was established and ruled by force of arms- the Empire.
The Empire died from a variety of causes.
It was decimated by wave after wave of plagues from the east. Small pox appeared, among other diseases around 200 AD, caused massive suffering and death, social collapse and civil wars, leaving anarchy. The Church was a leech, sucking up scarce resources and manpower. And no one wanted to join the damn Legions and be military slaves, they cut off their thumbs so they could not hold a sword, or left to become hermits. No one LIKED the empire. People had to be ordered, on pain of fine and punishment, jail or even excution, to become city mayors and regional governors.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | April 11, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

The best thing to say about Mississippi? At least it's not Alabama.

Posted by: smomin1 | April 11, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

Of course nowhere in the current law is there a provision for 16,000 new IRS agents. This claim is a made up "fact" that you swallow hook line and sinker because Gingrich says it. What's the truth behind his numbers? Of course, you don't even now how he comes up with that number.

What's more the Constitution contains an amendment regarding taxation -- the government has the authority to enforce Constitutional provisions as well. Maybe you think tax-cheats should be free to evade the law.

Somehow "no taxation without representation" has become just plain-old "no taxation" in the mind of free-lunch Conservatives.

Cheap labor for the rich has been the guiding principle of southern plantation owners for generations. Those values have apparently found an audience in today's GOP.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 7:10 PM
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Congress may have the power of taxation, but it doesn't have the power to tell you, me, or anyone else how we MUST spend OUR money!!! Ever heard of the 9th amendment? It's that nice little thing that says that just because the right isn't spelled out doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Surely common law applies here too. Surely in common law the gov't doesn't have the right to dictate to you how to spend YOUR money!!!

What I am saying is that I expect civil disobedience to this perversion of our laws. It is unconstitutional and WILL be struck down.

I also expect that the Dumbocrats in Congress will get kicked to the curb this fall. I saw that Stupidpak didn't even wait for the electorate to kick him to the curb. He decided not to run again. To bad. It would have been fun to watch him get humiliated for going against the wishes of his constituency.

TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK!!!

MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN!!!

The clock IS ticking, the writing IS on the wall, and come November you Dumbocrats' time IS up!!! YOU GOIN' DOWN!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Hi-
Although I have lived in the great State of Arkansas for many years, I came some years after the actually non-racist but very opportunistic Faubus played the "race card" at Central High. Although progress has been uneven, generally most folks in Arkansas would like to emphasize that we have moved on and improved. That was then and this is now.
When national surveys are made about negative things, such as lack of education, low average income, etc., the cry here is "Thank God for Mississippi" since it manages to almost always rank below Arkansas and prevent our state from being ranked last. I want to thank Barbour for doing it again. Mississippi's record on race has generally been vile, but progressives in that state have tried to make the case that it has evolved and improved. Barbour has again showed that the spirit of Bilbo (not the Hobbit) is alive and well. By emphasizing this for Mississippi, the memory of its neighbor Arkansas' craziness recedes into the past (where it belongs). Thank God for Mississippi!

Posted by: doctort | April 11, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

What Barbour clearly doen't recognize is that saying his state did it already points out moer about them thean it does about the propriety of honoring TRAITORS. The South engaged in sedition--not some noble struggle for states rights, or a mythic quest for honor. The doctrine of nullification was another smokescreen. They wanted to own and enslave human beings and be able to treat them like chattel--pure and simple. They were fortunate that Lincoln was compassionate and guided by mercy--but "honoring" them--never--one does not honor traitorous scum like that.

Posted by: bklyndan22 | April 11, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing that there are people out there today that still believe that the Confederate States of America(CSA)succeded from the United States of America simply over state's rights. What these people need to do is read the CSA Constitution. It makes clear that the Confederate States separated from the USA solely over the issue of negro slavery, nothing else. They didn't want the USA to interfere with there "right" to hold black people in bondage. These southern states wanted to continue the "evil" peculiar institution at all cost, even at the cost of the lives of non-slave holders in the south.

Anyone who wants to celebrate the Confederacy in essense wants to celebrate the nostalgia of negro slavery "way down south in Dixie."

Posted by: Chuck907 | April 11, 2010 7:12 PM
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The first part you are correct about. The South was about slavery.

As for the 2nd part, the celebration, I can't imagine anyone today wanting anything to do with slavery or Jim Crow. It's about remembering their ancestors' sacrifices.

Chill out!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say. However, one of the things that killed the Roman Empire is that they didn't control their borders. Once the barbarians started seeping through...

I do agree there are issues with polyglot societies like Yugoslavia. One of the big things there is you have a witches brew of Catholics vs Orthodox vs Muslims. Those who became Muslims are I'm sure viewed as traitors, even though it has been centuries since the Turks left. Much like in the Middle East today, one would think that the Crusades had happened yesterday.

It is interesting the division of the country. Basically, the old South, plus the plains and Rocky Mountain states. Numerically it's over half the states, but from a House of Representatives standpoint, a close call.

With the Radical Agenda of Comrade Obozo I do fear the outbreak of a Civil War. I don't think it would take much. He's really assaulting our liberties in the name of "The common good". However, in this society, and in our Constitution, the individual counts. Obozo really over reached. The courts WILL shoot it down.

The way this loser is I think he's going to make President Peanuthead look like the model of efficiency.

Posted by: A1965bigdog |
...........................................

What killed the Roman Republic was unrestrained, unregulated capitialism.
Then a despotic tyrancial state emerged from the anarchy, was established and ruled by force of arms- the Empire.
The Empire died from a variety of causes.
It was decimated by wave after wave of plagues from the east. Small pox appeared, among other diseases around 200 AD, caused massive suffering and death, social collapse and civil wars, leaving anarchy. The Church was a leech, sucking up scarce resources and manpower. And no one wanted to join the damn Legions and be military slaves, they cut off their thumbs so they could not hold a sword, or left to become hermits. No one LIKED the empire. People had to be ordered, on pain of fine and punishment, jail or even excution, to become city mayors and regional governors.
The USA is now a polyglot country. Jimmy Carter helped that along. A ex Georgia governor. Most people are hispanic, or black, or asian. Most people moved here from another country in my lifetime. But Jimmy broke the back of organised labor, and forced them to accept lower wages and reducing incomes and declining posperity. For the good of 'old money'.

Posted by: WilliamBlake | April 11, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are vapid. The rest of the country gets what McD and Barbour are saying. They are winking and saying that slavery wasn't so bad, that segregation and Jim Crow were not so bad in fact, those were the golden days. Well, guess what? The rest of the country has moved forward into the 21st century. And it's time to leave the GOP in the past. Vote these bigotted unapologetic confederates out of office. America is better than them. It deserves better than them.

Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | April 11, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Texas has been tarred with racism far more than it should be. Here's the hate crimes list by state:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2008/data/table_11.html

Whereas only 278 of 9168 (3.03%) of 2008's hate crimes occurred in Texas, 659 (7.19%) occurred in Michigan and 385 (4.20%) occurred in Massachusetts. You figure out the population risks.

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

The omission of slavery "doesn't amount to diddly"?

What a perfect example of the arrogance and racism of the leadership in the Republican Party.

What Barbour is really saying is, "We wrote off the black vote a long time ago, we don't care about them." He just wants to stir up the rubes in the base, along with the teabagger bigots, and then take their money. It's worked well for them for years.


The GOP has no ideas that haven't already been proven deadly to the middle class. Let the Republicans fester and molt in their little pot of slime, they can't see out of it. But the rest of America has had enough of them.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 11, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps he's pining for the good ol' days, and he simply forgot that not everyone in the Union was down with that plantation owner lifestyle.

Of course, we're not from one of those "pro-America" regions of the nation, so what do we know...

Posted by: labman57 | April 11, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

So much for a very poorly executed attempt to quell the uproar over McDonnell's blunder, Guv'nor. Talk about open mouth, insert foot (along with diddly)! Next time a fire breaks out, you might try letting it die out rather than throw gasoline on it with a stupid and very quotable utterance which calls attention to the McConnell fiasco and keeps it a front page story.

Posted by: BlanketyBlank | April 11, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Barbour? Wasn't he the republican Mississippi Governor who talked 43 into letting give $65 million earmarked to rebuild low-income housing after Katrina to a big business to build a brand new casino in Mississippi?

You can build a lot of low-income housing for $65 million or one really swanky barge.

Governor, whatever happened to those low-income people you don't have any compassion for? Halley Barbour isn't much of a human being, but then most repugs aren't.

Posted by: BigTrees | April 11, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

You have a pretty bizarre view of Constitutional law. The Courts have long recognized the government's has right to tax for negative externalities such as pollution, or behaviors that attempt to shift costs onto others.

If a person doesn't purchase insurance until they get sick, they are imposing a cost on everyone else in the purchasing pool who pays money upfront. No free lunch, Con.

We'll see how the Courts ultimately rule on this one.

The Democrats may very well lose seats this election cycle. Sometimes voters are slow on the uptake, and a lot of Big Money is flowing into Republican campaign coffers this election cycle. The Neo-Plantation owners certainly expect to getting a pretty good ROI by bankrolling GOP candidates. It's no accident either that companies like Massey Energy give 90 percent of their money to the GOP -- even in a state that tilts Democratic.

Let me know when you start seeing those new 16,000 IRS agents actually on government payrolls too, chump.

Posted by: JPRS | April 11, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

So the TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK rhetoric continues.

Next the GOP will be saying that slavery was just the SOUTH experimenting with OUTSOURCING.

Posted by: racerdoc | April 11, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog,

I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say. However, one of the things that killed the Roman Empire is that they didn't control their borders. Once the barbarians started seeping through...

I do agree there are issues with polyglot societies like Yugoslavia. One of the big things there is you have a witches brew of Catholics vs Orthodox vs Muslims. Those who became Muslims are I'm sure viewed as traitors, even though it has been centuries since the Turks left. Much like in the Middle East today, one would think that the Crusades had happened yesterday.

It is interesting the division of the country. Basically, the old South, plus the plains and Rocky Mountain states. Numerically it's over half the states, but from a House of Representatives standpoint, a close call.

With the Radical Agenda of Comrade Obozo I do fear the outbreak of a Civil War. I don't think it would take much. He's really assaulting our liberties in the name of "The common good". However, in this society, and in our Constitution, the individual counts. Obozo really over reached. The courts WILL shoot it down.

The way this loser is I think he's going to make President Peanuthead look like the model of efficiency.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

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An empire is a collection of States. The United States is a single country. Yugoslavia was a single country until it fell apart. The result was pretty terrible.
A trouble with the modern world is a desire on the part of politicians to incite secession. This is true in so many parts of the planet. The Quebec folks want to secede from Canada. The Basques want to secede from Spain. In Kenya, there are tribes that want to split up the country. In India, Kashmir wants to secede. In Vietnam, an Islamic group wants to have a separate country. Chechnya wants to secede. One could go on, but you get the idea.

Secession on rare occasions works; judging from the world's experiences with this, in general it is a terrible idea. The partition of India cost 2,000,000 lives.

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

The best and the brightest of the Republican Party.

Posted by: jeffwacker | April 11, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

What's really needed is a day to honor Union soldiers so that the descendants of African American slaves have an opportunity to express their deep obligation, gratitude, and appreciation to those who sacrificed so much to liberate them from slavery.

Posted by: gertie_gumdrops | April 11, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

A1965bigdog seems to be just about the only true believer Republican going on here. I've voted for Republicans, and every time I've regretted it. It's like beating yourself on the head: it feels so good when you stop. The GOP has had its crackpot policies put into practice again and again, and the result has invariably been unmitigated disaster financially, socially and militarily. While I admire A1965bigdog's loyalty, I think it's misplaced. Are you an officer of Halliburton or something?

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

LeePefley1

Lost? War's not over yet. Next time, WE win.
____________

LeePefley1...if there is a next time.....I will personally kick your sorry arse.

Posted by: antiquepaper1 | April 11, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

It would seem that the impossible is happening. The Repub's are doing everything they can to throw the November elections.

Posted by: KBlit | April 11, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately the White Southern Character of the Republican Party illustrates just what the country would be in for should we choose a Republican President. In an age when we should be focused on a competitive economy, scientific and social welfare base to compete with countries like China, India, etc., these people want to take us backward. This region of the country hasn't been responsible for one significant scientific break through, i.e. Silicon Valley, etc, or great company. One reason is its leadership; playing to racial division just to keep their positions of priviledge. Enough already!

Posted by: McHenry | April 11, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Democrats need to create jobs, not this nonsense.

Posted by: JohnnyGee | April 11, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

This was a total non-issue when the Post concocted it in the first place, and now it's even less of an issue.

Posted by: thebump | April 11, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

President Lincoln althogh he wasn't a slave owner, said to the effect, that he would have kept them (slaves) in bondage to preserve the Union. The question then is, was his Emancipation Proclamation about his dislike for the instittution of slavery, or was it instead, politically motivated. The Civil War was about slavery, but in relation to states rights.

Slavery was evil, but I wonder was it seen as such in the antebellum south, or in parts the north, prior to the civil war. It is easy to say that slavery should never have been allowed, and it shouldn't have. The question is then, why was it allowed to flourish, and why so long to eradicate it.

In terms of rognizing the confederate states, and the flag that represented the confederacy, whether you like it or not, it is a part of the history of this country. I am from the north, but if one of my relatives died fighting for the south, for something that he believed in, (states rights) I would be proud to honor that person, and the war he fought in. After all, we now have the expression, "My country right or wrong", and the south was not a part of the Union. The governor of Virginia was honoring those southerners who fought and died, not slavery. The liberal media would like to make this another racist issue, when it really wasn't.

Posted by: jemvbcarmagh06 | April 11, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: A1965bigdog |
"...what you libs just don't get is that the Confederate History month in Virginia (the capital of the Confederacy) is about the history of VA and her people. The history is what it is. It can't be changed."

Then why is it called Confederate History Month, not Virginia History Month? Why is this part of your history more worth remembering than others?

"What the people in VA are remembering is the sacrifices of their citizens who fought and died defending their cause (a bad cause, I might add). It's not about celebrating slavery or Jim Crow. It's about remembering the privations (hunger, insufficient clothing, maiming, death) that these people's ancestors suffered. It's Heritage, not Hate."

So you start by eliminating the privations suffered by generations of slaves and their heritage?

did not your ancestors bring on these privations and sufferings themselves by adopting an evil cause, rebelling, and attacking the United States? This seems a proper occasion for mourning, not celebration.

You are as bad as the Pope. You tell each other your cause is virtuous until you all believe it, you just don't get it when others don't buy your excuses, and then you get defensive and attack anyone who challenges you.

Posted by: j3hess | April 11, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

The only ones getting their panties in a knot over this is liberals. It really is no big deal to most Americans.

What really matters is the fact that America is spending itself into financial oblivion. Our debt is killing us. The Obama solution is just more spending. In 2009 he made the quantum leap into the trillions. That's scary.

The huge TAX hikes will not be far behind.

Only a route of the spendocrats and taxocrats in November can stop it.

Posted by: battleground51 | April 11, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

President Lincoln althogh he wasn't a slave owner, said to the effect, that he would have kept them (slaves) in bondage to preserve the Union. The question then is, was his Emancipation Proclamation about his dislike for the instittution of slavery, or was it instead, politically motivated. The Civil War was about slavery, but in relation to states rights.

Slavery was evil, but I wonder was it seen as such in the antebellum south, or in parts the north, prior to the civil war. It is easy to say that slavery should never have been allowed, and it shouldn't have. The question is then, why was it allowed to flourish, and why so long to eradicate it.

In terms of rognizing the confederate states, and the flag that represented the confederacy, whether you like it or not, it is a part of the history of this country. I am from the north, but if one of my relatives died fighting for the south, for something that he believed in, (states rights) I would be proud to honor that person, and the war he fought in. After all, we now have the expression, "My country right or wrong", and the south was not a part of the Union. The governor of Virginia was honoring those southerners who fought and died, not slavery. The liberal media would like to make this another racist issue, when it really wasn't.

Posted by: jemvbcarmagh06 | April 11, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

President Lincoln althogh he wasn't a slave owner, said to the effect, that he would have kept them (slaves) in bondage to preserve the Union. The question then is, was his Emancipation Proclamation about his dislike for the instittution of slavery, or was it instead, politically motivated. The Civil War was about slavery, but in relation to states rights.

Slavery was evil, but I wonder was it seen as such in the antebellum south, or in parts the north, prior to the civil war. It is easy to say that slavery should never have been allowed, and it shouldn't have. The question is then, why was it allowed to flourish, and why so long to eradicate it.

In terms of rognizing the confederate states, and the flag that represented the confederacy, whether you like it or not, it is a part of the history of this country. I am from the north, but if one of my relatives died fighting for the south, for something that he believed in, (states rights) I would be proud to honor that person, and the war he fought in. After all, we now have the expression, "My country right or wrong", and the south was not a part of the Union. The governor of Virginia was honoring those southerners who fought and died, not slavery. The liberal media would like to make this another racist issue, when it really wasn't.

Posted by: jemvbcarmagh06 | April 11, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Yawn. Another degenerate redneck racist heard from. What else would we expect from the governor of Mississippi?

Posted by: nicekid | April 11, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

"Outcry on Confederate proclamation is "a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddly." - the liberal/progressive fascists that own, manage and report for the corrupt POST

POST.........you're sure showing your liberal/progressive fascists feathers on this "story".

So POST how long to plan on "milking" this story?


POST = a dirty dishonest liberal/progressive propaganda outlet for the Democrat Party......and this "story" is proof.............how low can the POST go?

Posted by: allenridge | April 11, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Lincoln would be rolling in his grave to know that such Republicans exist.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | April 11, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

For Republicans Lincoln is a persona no grata. Did the "liberal' media mention or noticed that?They never accepted that Lincoln kicked their racists as.ses

Posted by: rappahanock | April 11, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Racism and Stupidity two well known virtues which are vintage Republican!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

It appears the South is looking for another Beatdown, like they got doing the LAST Civil War.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda can take a break from the 9 year war, the Republican Party has taken it upon themselves to be the NEW Terrorist who want to Destroy America.

Posted by: austininc4 | April 11, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

You know, the Governor of Mississippi once upon a time was a bright young Democrat named Roy Mabus, elected about the same time Bill Clinton was elected Governor of Arkansas. He was a smart guy (went to Harvard, I believe)and really wanted to pull Mississippi out of last place at everything. Not all Mississippi governors are racist jerks, just for the record.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Racism and antiquated thinking is alive and well in the republican party.

Posted by: jonblackman57 | April 11, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

There IS a reason that the Southern Republicans keep fighting the Civil War all over again: they need to reemphasize for their constituents that they haven't graduated from the year 1861. While they seem to pay lip service to the notion that slavery was bad, their continuing emphasis on the Confederacy and its seamy legacy of Jim Crow, race-baiting, segregation, etc., their continued harping on the past that they wish they could return to (antebellum, of course) tells the real story.

This is all a charade, being played out using Confederate "history" as the pretend meaning, with the subtext always being a yearning for a simpler, less challenging world in which the white man ruled and everyone else was not heard and barely seen. The atavistic overlay is just a coating to distract from the real issue. Deeper down, the core is that life in 2010 is too complicated and they want it the way it was in 1860.

If, as Gov. Barbour says, the whole thing didn't mean "diddly", why was there a proclamation at all? Of course it meant something, and was the prod the Republicans needed to reenergize their so-called base.

Posted by: dsspa | April 11, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is the ultimate wack job!

Every wacko from Texas to Alaska is a part of this 3 Ring Circus, just ask any wacko and he/she/it will tell that they are a Republican!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

I lived in Greenville, Mississippi for two years. In Mississippi history has been rewritten. I went to tour the antebellum houses in Natchez, a very beautiful town. They hold pageants about the Confederacy, men are walking around dressed like Confederate soldiers, and yet the real history is that when the Union gunboats pulled up to Natchez the Union officers were given the keys to the city and the ladies of the town danced with the Union officers at a ball held in their honor. Somehow that part never gets mentioned in the pageants.

Posted by: rivermama | April 11, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

The GOP should simply change their name to the KKK and end the charade.

Posted by: vfazio | April 11, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I see, Governor Barbour is the expert on racial sensitivity. He played that card really well as the one-time chair of the RNC.

Forgive me while I go and vomit.

Posted by: dc1020008 | April 11, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

"Yawn. Another degenerate redneck racist heard from. What else would we expect from the governor of Mississippi?"

Yawn. Another vicious leftist moonbat smearing political opponents. Probably has a useless government job as "Director of Tolerance". What else would we expect from the Washington Post liberal echo chambers?

Posted by: bobdame | April 11, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

One thing for sure....

We aren't going to let the Republicans win the house in November...

I cannot for the life of me see John bonehead as Speaker of the House....The man stays drunk too much!

Posted by: dove369 | April 11, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The world has come together and has seen what evil looks like. World leaders of all religions now have this common knowledge. Obama is the Anti-Christ, Devil on Earth, or what ever else you want to call this Demonic Figure. His words describe him, He is a False Hope, If you listen to him you will love him. He carries a Bow without an Arrow. He will conquer all through his speech, his false hoods will capture all who sit and listen to him.

Posted by: makom | April 11, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans, the party the "freed" the slaves is now wingnut central for the very worst of America, gun toting, white trash, angry about everything.

Dwight Eisenhower is spinning in his grave, the very types of race baiter thugs that he helped defeat in WWII are now the loudest voice in the GOP.

Posted by: Holy_Kow | April 11, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Yawn.

Posted by: thebump | April 11, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

This can all be remedied as Rick Perry suggested...secede...the past isn't prologue as Faulkner intoned in the South. It aint even the past. Dont let the screen door hit your ass on the way out.

Posted by: aguasticas | April 11, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The GOP should simply change their name to the KKK and end the charade.

Posted by: vfazio | April 11, 2010 8:01 PM
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The Dumbocrats should start using the Hammar and Sickle and end THEIR charade!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Some talk about large numbers of hate groups in Texas, but many of these groups comprise five persons, a dog, and a dirty pick up with a busted rear window covered by a Dixie flag. One way is to check out the headquarters of various hate groups. This list is from the ADL: American Front CA; Aryan Nations Idaho;
Council of Conservative Citizens MI; Creativity Movement Wyoming; Elohim City OK; Greater Ministries International FL; Hammerskin Nation Started in TX, but now without a headquarters; Institute for Historical Review No headquarters, but mostly does stuff in CA; League of American Patriots (LOAP) NJ; Little Shell Pembina Band ND; Militia of Montana Noxon, Montana; National Alliance WV; National Socialist Movement MI; Nazi Low Riders No specific location,mainly a CA outfit; New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense DC; Public Enemy Number 1 (PENI) No specific headquarters, mostly in CA; Volksfront
OR; Westboro Baptist Church KA; White Revolution AK.

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/w_revolution.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=wr_br

Texas is just not large in the scheme of things. Noxon is a fascinating name, ain't it?

Posted by: Martial | April 11, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Racist scum, both of them.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I know . Just like Obama, Lewis, and Clyburn.
Label the Clintons as racist then appoint Hillary SOS and use Bill as an Obama adviser.

How about them Liberal apples.

Posted by: bnw173 | April 11, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Having Haley Barbour defend you against charges of racism is sorta like having Genghis Khan defend you against charges of barbarism. Why bother?

Posted by: rodneythecat | April 11, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour, Misssissippi,Nuff' said Y'all.He left his hood in the closet. That was polite.

Posted by: misewicz | April 11, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

And one more thing... let's add a John Brown Day as a federal holiday, and celebrate every November and December as Sherman's March to Sea Month, in which its resolved that Sherman burned the traitor's cities and towns and helped end slavery and the rebellion... and killed several thousand toothless hillbillies in the process, who, unfortunately, managed to produce offspring who today are still as ignorant and backward and racist as their forebears.
How about that, losers? I mean, Southerners?

Posted by: vfazio | April 11, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

"Outcry on Confederate proclamation is "a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddly."
The same thing said Hitler when they told him the concentration camps.
How stupid and imbeciles can these right-wing Republican trash can get!

Posted by: analyst72 | April 11, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey, bigdog: Can't you spell "hammer"? It's not a hard word, even in red states. If you can't do better than that, you shouldn't be calling anybody else Dumbocrats.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

That Haley Barbour thinks that the omission of slavery "isn't a big thing" is very revealing and not all that surprising. It just supports what the father of black Republican ex-Congressman J. C. Watts Jr. said, "A black man voting for a Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders".

Posted by: JimZ1 | April 11, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm? I wonder what all these noble Sons of the Confederacy would say if the Union states annually proclaimed a week in honor of the sacrifice of their men that fought to preserve the United States of America, and the defeat of one of the worst forms of human subjugation in Western history(not slavery, but slavery in the form practiced by the Confederate States)?

Posted by: kermit5 | April 11, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: A1965bigdog |
"...what you libs just don't get is that the Confederate History month in Virginia (the capital of the Confederacy) is about the history of VA and her people. The history is what it is. It can't be changed."

Then why is it called Confederate History Month, not Virginia History Month? Why is this part of your history more worth remembering than others?

"What the people in VA are remembering is the sacrifices of their citizens who fought and died defending their cause (a bad cause, I might add). It's not about celebrating slavery or Jim Crow. It's about remembering the privations (hunger, insufficient clothing, maiming, death) that these people's ancestors suffered. It's Heritage, not Hate."

So you start by eliminating the privations suffered by generations of slaves and their heritage?

did not your ancestors bring on these privations and sufferings themselves by adopting an evil cause, rebelling, and attacking the United States? This seems a proper occasion for mourning, not celebration.

You are as bad as the Pope. You tell each other your cause is virtuous until you all believe it, you just don't get it when others don't buy your excuses, and then you get defensive and attack anyone who challenges you.

Posted by: j3hess | April 11, 2010 7:49 PM
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Actually one of MY ancestors went with Uncle Billy from Atlanta to Savannah! I'm quite at ease with what my ancestors did. What gets me is that you losers pillory those who wish to remember their ancestors who suffered defending their homes for a cause the believed in (a quite horrible cause, in my opnion).

What the truth is is that you Dumbocrats deal the race card from the bottom of the deck every flippin time. Not only do you deal from the bottom of the deck, you deal marked cards.

Something that I bet you are ignorant of is that there were BLACK slave owners, and there were BLACK slave owners who served in the Confederate Army. They were a distinct minority, but nevertheless they existed. Not quite so black and white now, now is it???

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Judging by that barbour boy's face, he is 60+ years old and most probably will never change his way of thinking. Just shake your head and move on. He is an idiot. Sad thing is, he was voted in by bigger idiots to be the governor by golly in one of the poorest, most uneducated states in the union. Feel sorry for the citizens of the state.

Posted by: lede3957 | April 11, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

The State of Texas school board and its Tea Party Gov. Rick Perry recently declared Thomas Jefferson a persona non grata in high school text books used in the state.

Apparently Jefferson's preference for science and logic over religion and faith has pissed off these right wing-nuts.

The fact that Texas is ranked 47 out of 50 States in SAT achievement scores is totally irrelevant to these stupid right wing idiots.

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I think the omission of slavery was wrong.

Otherwise, how will future generations of Americans learn the history of the Democratic Party and what Democrats did.

Posted by: Washington13 | April 11, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Old fat white guy from the South saying this doesn't matter? That pretty much says it all right there. No credibility Bubba. You give the fine people of the South more reason to sweat the stereotypes.

Posted by: nihao1 | April 11, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

These Southern morons have their priorities tied up in racism and the Confederacy instead of economic advancement and education. Mississippi is the poorest, most uneducated, and unhealthiest state in the country.

Virginia was another backwater until Warner and Kaine made Northern Virginia into what it is today. Now McDonnell is undoing all of that, and VA will soon be just another Mississippi or South Carolina.

Still, I really appreciate McDonnell right now, since it makes his entire party look like idiots. Repuglicants in Northern states like Ehrlich here in MD are going to suffer come Nov.

Vote O'Malley 2010!!!

Posted by: one4all | April 11, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

anything to keep the focus off the permanent 10% Obama unemployment, eh Compost?

Posted by: wewintheylose | April 11, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes, "not a big deal".

We call this the "Vatican defense".

Popes use it. (Child molestation is not a big deal)

Mining companies use it (safety lapses that kill miners are not a big deal)

Republicans use it (Slavery is not a big deal).

Yep, the good ole Vatican defense. Second only to the "Sunoco 94" defense*

Chris

*"Sunoco 94" defense: Throwing gasoline on an open fire

Posted by: cz_man | April 11, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

If you ever doubted that Racism and Stupidity are ingrained in the DNA of right wing-nuts! Simply read up on the tread to validate this fact!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"...anybody that thinks that you have to explain to people that slavery is a bad thing--I think that goes without saying."

But we're not sure these freaks think slavery is such a bad thing.

Posted by: jimsillan | April 11, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

We need reparations for Americans who lost their lives to Confederate rebels, as well as for property destroyed by Confederates.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | April 11, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

And by the way, it wasn't Sherman who burned the cities in the South on his famous march, but the retreating Confederates, who didn't want food and other supplies to fall to Union hands. They burned their own cities.

Posted by: nihao1 | April 11, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey, bigdog: Can't you spell "hammer"? It's not a hard word, even in red states. If you can't do better than that, you shouldn't be calling anybody else Dumbocrats.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 8:14 PM
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I may have had a typo, but at least I'm not so dumb as to sell my soul to a pinko Commie like Comrade Obozo, Chairwoman Maolosi, or Hairless Reid. Are you so dumb as to sell your freedom to spend YOUR money as you see fit for a little health care? There's a saying. If you trade your freedom for safety, soon you will have neither. Completely foolish.

It really is amazing how goo goo gaa gaa all of you Dumbocrats are over Comrade Obozo. He's selling America down river!!!

So get ready. Comrade Obozo is making the whole nation a plantation. Get ready to start pickin' your cotton, cause Comrade Obozo is Massa!!!

However, if I have anything to say about it (I do in November), I'm kicking his loser Dumbocrat colleagues to the curb, and then in 2012 we're kicking him back to Chicago, Hawaii, Indonesia, Kenya, or where ever it is that the commie B@$t@rd came from.

TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK!!!

MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN!!!

The clock IS ticking, the writing IS on the wall, and come November you Dumbocrats' time IS up!!! YOU GOIN' DOWN!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN TO SAVE THE UNION!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

The Civil War, according to these Repuke anal pores, had nothing to do with slavery, but I'll tell you, if it hadn't been necessary to free the slaves, I would say that keeping places like Mississippi in the Union was a big mistake. What a bunch of scumbags you GOPerverts are.

Posted by: daweeni | April 11, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Democrats have to live with the stain of Slavery on their party forever.

Republicans should acknowledge what Democrats did.

History is history.

Posted by: Washington13 | April 11, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Barbour is a moron even without his hood. He should run for President! Please! I'm glad I don't live in Mississippi.

Posted by: bc_bklyn | April 11, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Too bad the Feds didn't finish the job.. not one of those traitors should have been left alive.. not one!!

Posted by: VietVet68 | April 11, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

State of Mississippi

Office of the Governor

A PROCLAMATION

WHEREAS, April is the month in which the Confederate States began and ended a four year struggle; and

WHEREAS, on Confederate Memorial Day, we recognize those who served in the Confederacy; and

WHEREAS, it is important for all Americans to reflect on our nation’s past, to gain insight from our mistakes and successes, and come to a full understanding that the lessons learned yesterday and today will take us through tomorrow if we carefully and earnestly strive to understand and appreciate our heritage and our opportunities which lie before us;

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Haley Barbour, Governor of the State of Mississippi, hereby proclaim the month of April in 2006 as:

CONFEDERATE HERITAGE MONTH
In the state of Mississippi

=================

Since 2006, and not a word from Obama.

Posted by: asmith1 | April 11, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

And Gov. Barbour's comments add up to diddly/squat.

Posted by: rogied25 | April 11, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Democrats have to live with the stain of Slavery on their party forever.

Republicans should acknowledge what Democrats did.

History is history.

Posted by: Washington13 | April 11, 2010 8:29 PM
.............................

You keep reaching back over 160 years for your arguments, bigoted little man.

The rest of us know that since the passage of the Civil Rights Act under Democratic President Lyndon Johnson, the party of racism is called "Republican."

That fat lobbyist-loving corporate tool and bigmouth gasbag Haley Barbour just proved it once again. The omission of any mention of slavery from Mc Donnell's proclamation "doesn't amount to diddly"?

Barbour is one of the guys in the GOP leadership who helped nearly flush America down the drain under George Bush. They shrank the middle class, underwrote the biggest transfer of wealth in history (from the poor and middle class to the wealthy), lied us into a needless war, and put both the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war on a Chinese credit card.

No way do these GOP idiots get a majority in the next elections.


Posted by: losthorizon10 | April 11, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey moron teabaggers: This story would be winding down if fathead windbag Haley Barbour hadn't opened his big fat piehole.

Barbour/Palin 2012!!

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, well. So Obama is the Anti-Christ, eh? Comrade Obozo is Massa? Wow, you guys are severely nuts.

When you aren't too busy foaming at the mouth, you might take a look at this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/opinion/11meacham.html?hp

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Support McDonnell cause he's right!

Posted by: FloridaCitizen | April 11, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Washington13 wrote:

Democrats have to live with the stain of Slavery on their party forever.
Republicans should acknowledge what Democrats did.
History is history.
__________
Yes history is history and you obviously don't understand it. The ancestors of the southern Democrats that embraced slavery in the Civil War era switched parties from Democrat to Republican shortly after the 1960s in reaction to Democrat Lyndon Johnson's successful effort to integrate the school in the south. The southerners that switched felt so strongly about opposing integration that they switched to the present day Republican party. This is an established historical fact supported by dozens of studies.

Posted by: antiquepaper1 | April 11, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Support McDonnell cause he's right!

Posted by: FloridaCitizen | April 11, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

With the Radical Agenda of Comrade Obozo I do fear the outbreak of a Civil War. I don't think it would take much. He's really assaulting our liberties in the name of "The common good". However, in this society, and in our Constitution, the individual counts. Obozo really over reached. The courts WILL shoot it down.

The way this loser is I think he's going to make President Peanuthead look like the model of efficiency.

Posted by: A1965bigdog
___________________________________________

So, bigdog, are you ready to ally yourself with Al Qaeda to bring down the U.S. government?

Your pronouncements and viewpoint are no less treasonous than the person at Ft. Hood who killed 13 members of the armed forces.

As Bush said in his first term...either you're with us or you're against us. If you're against the U.S. government, get the hell out!

Posted by: dc1020008 | April 11, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Without Republicans, the Civil Rights Act would not have passed.

History is History.

Also, while Democrats continue to focus on their past transgression of 'Slavery', Americans of all races will still be looking for jobs that do not involve working temporarily for the Census.

Posted by: Washington13 | April 11, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Some of the more braindead teabaggers on here, like Washington13, seem to have an incredible inability to grasp that 45 years ago, the Democratic Party once and for all told Southern conservative racists to go f themselves...while the Republican Party told them, "Come on over here, boys!"

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

The weird thing about Barbour's comments, which I saw on CNN, is that Southern Republicans believe that defending the Confederacy is a good thing to do. That is a sign of how far from rational thinking they are. They are drinking their own kool-aid.

Will the rest of the country want a sip?

Posted by: bc_bklyn | April 11, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour is engaged in his own courtship of the neo-Confederates. For years he has worn a Confederate flag pin. Mississippi's white Democrats are doubtlessly afraid to refuse proclamations hailing the Confederacy in a state where segregationist sentiments are still very much alive. It is easier to go with the flow, albeit cowardly.

However, being praised by Barbour is not what Bob McConnell needs at all. The neo-Confederates and their supporters already support both of these Southern Republican governors. The governors' reaffirmation of neo-Confederate beliefs will not attract support from most moderates, though. Those are the voters they should be trying to please.

And, for the record, slavery is far from being "diddly."

Posted by: query0 | April 11, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

A previous commentator posted this;

"People who don't understand the problem will trivialize it."

This to me is what it is all about... and the GOP and republican party have their marching orders to trivialize this matter. This in turn will convince the people that don't understand the problem with glorifing the confederate south.
I also beleive that most of these recent issues along with the "tea party" phenomenon is about having the first black President.
You can deny it, you can dispute it, you can trivialize it. The fact is that it is true. We are not a complete "post racial" country, we as americans still struggle with racism, inequality and injustice every day.

Posted by: richmonet | April 11, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey Washington13, those Republicans would now be known as RINOs and would be run out of the Republican Party.

Fortunately, most people's knowlege of history is deeper than yours.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Where in the History of the Republican Party did they foster or defend slavery?

No where.

It was and will always be the history of Democrats.

Now Iet me finishing reading the book on Republican President Abraham Lincoln as the Democrats continue to honor a former KKK member and current Democrat Senator Robert Byrd.

Posted by: Washington13 | April 11, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Some of the more braindead teabaggers on here, like Washington13, seem to have an incredible inability to grasp that 45 years ago, the Democratic Party once and for all told Southern conservative racists to go f themselves...while the Republican Party told them, "Come on over here, boys!"

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 8:48 PM
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Boy, talk about revisionist history. The last time I checked the Republican Party voted for Civil Rights. Wouldn't have been able to get the cloture vote without Republican help.

As for the Dems losing the South, as one guy put it, he never left the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.

Today, the Dems stand for Radical Left Wing Agenda like Comrade Obozo's Communist Healthcare. And having those wonderful Mao quoating aids like Vann Jones, Anita Dunn, and Ron Bloom, yup, real mean stream. NOT!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Washington13: keep mixing up that kool-aid!


Posted by: bc_bklyn | April 11, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

With the Radical Agenda of Comrade Obozo I do fear the outbreak of a Civil War. I don't think it would take much. He's really assaulting our liberties in the name of "The common good". However, in this society, and in our Constitution, the individual counts. Obozo really over reached. The courts WILL shoot it down.

The way this loser is I think he's going to make President Peanuthead look like the model of efficiency.

Posted by: A1965bigdog
___________________________________________

So, bigdog, are you ready to ally yourself with Al Qaeda to bring down the U.S. government?

Your pronouncements and viewpoint are no less treasonous than the person at Ft. Hood who killed 13 members of the armed forces.

As Bush said in his first term...either you're with us or you're against us. If you're against the U.S. government, get the hell out!
********************
You think I'm treasonous because I think that Comrade Obozo's policies are tearing at the fabric of this country and creating discontent? You think I'm treasonous because I threaten to vote against the Dumbocrats in November, and make boasts backed up by opinion polls that the Dumbocrats are going to get creamed in the election??? And you think I'm traitorous because I point out that what he and Chairwoman Maolosi and Hairless Reid rammed down America's throat is unconstitutional??? I don't think so!!!

I will just love watching your Dumb response when you see how badly you've been creamed at the polls and we have a new Republican Speaker of the House and a Republican Majority leader in the Senate. Get ready to get an attack of apoplexy!!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the sides have switched since the Civil War. It happened in 1964, when five Southern states went for Goldwater, the first time they had ever voted Republican. That's a fact. You can point to the day it happened, the day the GOP sold its soul to the Devil.

Here are some more facts: The greatest civil rights president was Lincoln, a Republican. The greatest environmental champion was Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican. They had a great legacy and threw it away by sucking up to racists in the South. That's not "diddly"; it's a sad fact that now hangs around the neck of the Republican Party like a concrete block. The Southern Strategy was just brilliant, you guys. It worked for a long time, but you can't disavow it after 46 years of relentlessly playing the race card. I mean, "Willie Horton"? George H.W. Bush had his little victory and his one term. Huzzah for the Southern Strategy. But it's been wearing pretty thin ever since.

The Democratic Party did the right thing and jettisoned the racists. First Truman, then JFK, then LBJ. By the 1964 Presidential election, the white supremacists had had enough. And now they're the GOP's "base." Are ya happy now?

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to the new GOP! Exactly like the old GOP! Racist to the Core!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait till you Dumbs get booted out. You'll love how niggardly we'll be with the people's money.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Bar-Bour or Buf-foon? Take your pick one and the same!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Washington 13, you're deluding yourself. (Or you're ignorant. Or you're lying.)

If Abraham Lincoln were alive today, he'd be a Democrat. Honest Abe wouldn't recognize today's Republican Party.

Want to know why? In response to the Civil Rights movement -- which was championed by DEMOCRATS in the 60s -- all of the racists up and joined the GOP.

Surely you've heard of them? Southern Democrats, like Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, and their ilk -- racists and Confederate apologists all -- switched parties and became Republicans because that's where their bigoted ideology fit best. And know what? It still fits. Just ask Haley Barbour and Bob McDonnell.

Posted by: leftcoastblue | April 11, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I think "bigdog" is just a bad dog, a compulsive barker.

Posted by: bc_bklyn | April 11, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I think "bigdog" is just a bad dog, a compulsive barker.

Posted by: bc_bklyn | April 11, 2010 9:15 PM
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Flaccid!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Nice going, bigdog! "Niggardly" was go-o-o-d. I wonder if anyone will step into that cowpie. Sorry about the typo. I take it all back about "hammer."

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Nice going, bigdog! "Niggardly" was go-o-o-d. I wonder if anyone will step into that cowpie. Sorry about the typo. I take it all back about "hammer."

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 9:24 PM
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No problem!!!

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Slavery is, now, and was, in the past, abominable. It was America at it's worst. We all know of the hypocrisy that lives in that history, of which the scumbag Governor Haley Barbour has reminded us by affirming it.

To support, now in 2010, a proclamation about the history of the south and not mention slavery is deeply stupid. It should be fatally stupid. But it won't be, not for idiot racist Americans.

Posted by: bc_bklyn | April 11, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Whether it be republicans or democrats, racism and intolerance is WRONG! Cant the south have the decency to understand the pain that this action is causing their fellow Americans? As Christians, we are called to walk in others shoes. I would urge southerners to walk in the shoes of African Americans, whose ancestors were enslaved, lynched, raped, beaten, etc.

Posted by: verycreative | April 11, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Are all these govs as stupid as they are coming off?

Posted by: Mamanomia | April 11, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

And the GOP tries to say that racial minorities are Democrats because of welfare... hmm... maybe it's because the GOP tries to downplay racism and slavery every chance they get.

Trying to slide the blame onto Mississippi Dixiecrats does not absolve the GOP.

Posted by: brian_away | April 11, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse


Last time I checked the Republicans we're the ones that freed the slaves from the LIB south and ended slavery. Maybe you need to pay attention.

Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Today, the Dems stand for Radical Left Wing Agenda like Comrade Obozo's Communist Healthcare
********************************
What is so hilarious about comments like this is that healthcare bill is very similar to one proposed by those communist republicans including Hatch and Grassley
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123670612
But the summary of the Republican bill from the Clinton era and the Democratic bills that passed the House and Senate over the past few months are startlingly alike.

"Beyond the requirement that everyone have insurance, both call for purchasing pools and standardized insurance plans. Both call for a ban on insurers denying coverage or raising premiums because a person has been sick in the past. Both even call for increased federal research into the effectiveness of medical treatments — something else that used to have strong bipartisan support, but that Republicans have been backing away from recently."

Of course Commrade Romney's Massachusetts bill is also very similar.

These bills were capitalist, market based alternatives when promoted by Repubicans but magically became communist when supported by Obama.

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

from a proud, long standing racist....

Posted by: Geopolitics101 | April 11, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to the new GOP! Exactly like the old GOP! Racist to the Core!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

You mean like the old GOP that freed the slaves???

LIBS may be the stup1dest mammal on the planet.

Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

A Republican right wing-nut prayer!

"Lord, please help me to keep my mouth shut and let people think I am an idiot than open it and remove all doubt."

Gov Barbour has desecrated this sacred oath among Republicans! He opened his mouth...

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

To A1965bigdog:
Why do you keep going on about Virginians needing to revere their ancestors who fought for the South? How can you not realize that many, if not most, of us living here now did NOT have ancestors in the Confederate Army and quite a few of us had ancestors fighting for the Union??? Privately any organization based in VA can do whatever they want to remember soldiers from the South but for the governor to declare an official Virginia State commemoration of Confederate soldiers is idiotic.

Posted by: deltadelta | April 11, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

A Republican right wing-nut prayer!

"Lord, please help me to keep my mouth shut and let people think I am an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt."

Gov Barbour has desecrated this sacred oath among Republicans! He opened his mouth and now the world know what happened next!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Yes the civil rights act of 1964 got Republican votes but they were northern republicans. There were only 10 southern republicans in the house and they all voted against it as did most of the southern democrats. The only southern republican in the senate was John Tower of Texas and he voted for it. Afterward Johnson is attributed to have said "We lost the south for a generation" but it has turned out to be longer than that.

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: A1965bigdog |
"...what you libs just don't get is that the Confederate History month in Virginia (the capital of the Confederacy) is about the history of VA and her people. The history is what it is. It can't be changed."

Then why is it called Confederate History Month, not Virginia History Month? Why is this part of your history more worth remembering than others?

"What the people in VA are remembering is the sacrifices of their citizens who fought and died defending their cause (a bad cause, I might add). It's not about celebrating slavery or Jim Crow. It's about remembering the privations (hunger, insufficient clothing, maiming, death) that these people's ancestors suffered. It's Heritage, not Hate."

So you start by eliminating the privations suffered by generations of slaves and their heritage?

did not your ancestors bring on these privations and sufferings themselves by adopting an evil cause, rebelling, and attacking the United States? This seems a proper occasion for mourning, not celebration.

You are as bad as the Pope. You tell each other your cause is virtuous until you all believe it, you just don't get it when others don't buy your excuses, and then you get defensive and attack anyone who challenges you.

Posted by: j3hess | April 11, 2010 7:49 PM
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Actually one of MY ancestors went with Uncle Billy from Atlanta to Savannah! I'm quite at ease with what my ancestors did. What gets me is that you losers pillory those who wish to remember their ancestors who suffered defending their homes for a cause the believed in (a quite horrible cause, in my opnion).

What the truth is is that you Dumbocrats deal the race card from the bottom of the deck every flippin time. Not only do you deal from the bottom of the deck, you deal marked cards.

Something that I bet you are ignorant of is that there were BLACK slave owners, and there were BLACK slave owners who served in the Confederate Army. They were a distinct minority, but nevertheless they existed. Not quite so black and white now, now is it???

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse
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I notice that you avoided the questions I posed and began tossing out cheap insults.

You're the one that brought up race; my post referred to slavery. And slavery was evil whether the slave owner was white or black. Nevertheless, slavery was often justified by racist denigration of blacks. You can't separate the two just as you can't separate the Confederacy from slavery. If one half of one percent of owners were black, it doesn't change the overwhelming fact of white owners and black slaves.

Actually, I could easily support a Confederate History Month. It serves as a statement that although defeated on the battlefield, the spirit of the south has never been defeated.

I could join in a rebel yell for that too - if you quit trying to separate the Confederacy from racism and slavery that were it's origin and justification.

Posted by: j3hess | April 11, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait till you Dumbs get booted out. You'll love how niggardly we'll be with the people's money.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

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Like you were during the Bush years? Right, I have a bridge to nowhere to sell to anyone who believes that.

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to the new GOP! Exactly like the old GOP! Racist to the Core!
Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse
You mean like the old GOP that freed the slaves???
LIBS may be the stup1dest mammal on the planet.
Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse
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Actually, it has been scientifically proven that right wing-nuts are the dumbest primate on the planet!

They are unable to think outside set parameters much like a box but more like a herd! Much like instinct or what modern day computer scientists refer to ROM or Read Only Memory the kind usually programmed by Fox News to regurgitate whatever garbage goes in goes out!

Also, please don’t take President Lincoln name in vain! The old Democratic Party is the new Republican Party racist to the core!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Just a minute, askgees: Those racist Southern Democrats you refer to were not "LIB." Even John F. Kennedy was not a liberal like Teddy. They were very much conservative, which is why they left the Democratic Party in 1964. The first "liberals" emerged in the early 1960s as a response to the civil rights movement and the Vietnam War. Before that, Democrats were guys like Richard Daley, no liberal. Democrats and Republicans were very different 50 years ago.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Why would a teabagger like Washington13 want to read about a big government RINO like Abe Lincoln? How stupid.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Is it Bar-bour; Barf-four; or buf-foon?

Take you pick! Anyone of these is really gross!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

To assume that all confederate soldiers fought to hold on to slavery is to assume also that all the soldiers who fought for the Union fought to free the slaves. Surely no one believes this, right? Probably very few whites on either side back then thought blacks were equal to whites. This complicates the idea that it was a war to preserve slavery. Throw in the fact that 50,000 blacks fought for the confederacy and it's even more complicated.

Posted by: RVZ555 | April 11, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

To A1965bigdog:
Why do you keep going on about Virginians needing to revere their ancestors who fought for the South? How can you not realize that many, if not most, of us living here now did NOT have ancestors in the Confederate Army and quite a few of us had ancestors fighting for the Union??? Privately any organization based in VA can do whatever they want to remember soldiers from the South but for the governor to declare an official Virginia State commemoration of Confederate soldiers is idiotic.
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You should come to central, southern, and south-western VA. You'll find the situation is much different than it is in the environs of the beltway.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

What's the big deal. When you have a Democrat member of Congress that was a member of the KKK it seems odd that you would blame a Republican Governor for omitting a reference to slavery. Just left-wing partisan rhetoric.

As for Obama chiming in, who cares about his inane vacous comments.

Posted by: bdobbin1 | April 11, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell's mistake was to apologize. You must never, ever apologize to a liberal. Liberals have contempt for weakness. If you apologize, they will interpret it as weakness and they will swarm and attack, like sharks in a feeding frenzy. When faced with a raving liberal, one must show firm resolve. Do not fear being hated by a liberal. If you refuse to submit to them, liberals will hate you no matter what you do or say. But show fear or weakness, and never ever apologze to a liberal.

Posted by: gertie_gumdrops | April 11, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I take back what I said about Washington13 being the dumbest poster. Bigdog and askgees seem to want the title really badly.

These idiots seem to think the word "lib" can mean whatever they want it to mean. These clowns are the most ignorant, juvenile idiots currently drawing a breath.

I would have loved to see one of these drooling morons call a Southern conservative racist Democrat like James Eastland a "lib." The stupidity is mind-boggling.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Its an election year, Virginia's Governor is a Republican, and the vicious politics of division won in 2008. Grow up.

We just approved an unpopular law, we are in a recession that is not getting back jobs, and we have a jerk who hates us brewing up nuclear weapons -- and we're spending weeks in a transparent attempt to discredit the enemy political party.

Let's get back to some substantial news like Tiger's or Jesse's love lives.

Posted by: tommariner | April 11, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait till you Dumbs get booted out. You'll love how niggardly we'll be with the people's money.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

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Like you were during the Bush years? Right, I have a bridge to nowhere to sell to anyone who believes that.

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 9:54 PM
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To be honest I was shocked that we didn't have huge tax increases after Sept. 11th to pay for hunting down Al Qaida and Bin Laden.

Now here's what I think should happen:

1) Balanced Budget Amendment
2) Line Item Veto
3) Restore Presidential power to impound funds.
4) Divorce Social Security and Medicare revenues from general revenues. Have the trust funds pursue the highest ROI possible within prudence.

I believe the last one is very important. First, it restores honesty to the budgeting process. Secondly, it forces the Congress to not squander the trust funds on dubious measures.

The impoundment of funds is necessary to put things like earmarks in check. Ditto for line item veto.

In the short run it would be a bitter pill to swallow, but in the long run, with a positive cash flow, low interest rates, declining interest payments as the debt is reduced, my guess is that the economy would take off. I think once enacted we could probably grow our way out of the problem. Within a fairly short period it would probably be possible to reduce tax rates as the debt payments are reduced.

Short term pain, long term gain.

I liked W a lot, but his lack of fiscal prudence is a big short coming. However, seeing that we were and are in a start, it is quite normal that we would run deficits. However, we probably should have raised some taxes (perhaps consumption) to pay as we go.

Posted by: A1965bigdog | April 11, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Republicans believe they can use the incompetent Steele to run a racist campaign against the current president. Anyone recall the “Barack the Magic Negro” moment compliments of the RNC!

They believe so much in this concept that Steel could probably "moon" the entire RNC committee and still keep his job because they believe his black face gives them cover to run this racist campaign!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

To assume that all confederate soldiers fought to hold on to slavery is to assume also that all the soldiers who fought for the Union fought to free the slaves. Surely no one believes this, right? Probably very few whites on either side back then thought blacks were equal to whites. This complicates the idea that it was a war to preserve slavery. Throw in the fact that 50,000 blacks fought for the confederacy and it's even more complicated.

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True of many the individual soldiers perhaps but one has only to read the confederate constitution to see that the maintance of slavry was the major issue of the war.

"No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves, shall be passed. "

Further, a major bone of contention prewar was the slave vs free status of newly settled territories and new states and many of the economic issues between the north and the south arose because of the south's "pecular institution" as they called it at the time.

While there were no doubt other issues I think it is very unlikley that there would have been a civil war if not for slavery.

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

askgees: That vote was taken BEFORE the 1964 Presidential election, wasn't it?

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

The civil right vote by party and region
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
By party and region
Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)
The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

McDonnell's mistake was to apologize. You must never, ever apologize to a liberal. Liberals have contempt for weakness. If you apologize, they will interpret it as weakness and they will swarm and attack, like sharks in a feeding frenzy. When faced with a raving liberal, one must show firm resolve. Do not fear being hated by a liberal. If you refuse to submit to them, liberals will hate you no matter what you do or say. But show fear or weakness, and never ever apologze to a liberal.

Posted by: gertie_gumdrops | April 11, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

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Ditto to stupid right wing-nuts who also takes compromise as a weakness!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

The GOP simply cannot get beyond race and racism. They hold onto racism like asthmatics hold onto inhalers. They are like junkies and racism is their drug. They need it. Haley Barbour is a racist. Fact. When he made these comments, he is speaking to the racists of the nation. To dismiss slavery as nothing is idiotic. You would think he would want this thing to be addressed just like the Holocaust, or Katrina. Slavery was a crime against humanity. It changed history forever. It destroyed a continent. Africa still hasn't recovered from it. The talented workers of the continent were shipped off to death or enslavement in another country that did not use their talents but let their talents die. We don't need Confederate History Month; we need Chattel Slavery Month, where the entire nation studies the horror of slavery and why it was more destructive for whites than it was for blacks. Many whites still believe the sickness that slavery perpetuated: that black people were less than human, and that treating them like trash was okay. It wasn't. But that idea persists today; it continues. If Barbour and his ilk don't get a grip on it, race and racism is going to destroy the nation. He is absolutely stupid to continue to exploit it for political reasons. Is this the new version of the southern strategy.

Posted by: isometruman1 | April 11, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks rrwickett. Ralph Yarborough was a real Texas liberal.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, bigdog: That sounds a lot like what Bob Dole wanted to do, and he got his butt kicked. Sometimes you have to run a deficit, like now, for instance. After the Republicans tanked the economy, you think a balanced budget amendment will save the day? It was a dumb idea in 1996, and it's a dumb idea now.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

maybe askgees can tell us why five deep south states voted Republican in 1964. askgees's knowledge of history is about one millimeter deep.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

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Not to mention going for Wallace in 68.

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!

REDNECK GOVERNOR FROM MISSISSIPPI DEFENDS ONE OF HIS OWN FROM VIRGINIA


This is news???!!!

Posted by: ppsikogios | April 11, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are truly vapid when it comes to racism that they didn’t even have second thoughts about going after one of their own, John McCain, adopted dark skin daughter, Bridgette, depicting her as a child he fathered with a black prostitute giving George Bush the win in the primary and ultimately Americans the worst president and gravest economic conditions since the great depression of the 1930’s.

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

"LOL guess what sup1d??? it was the Reps who freed the slaves from the LIB Dem southerners. Try educating yourself....


Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse"

Come on, you freaking idiot, those racist southerners were not "Libs." Seriously, are you on crack?

You slackjawed idiot teabaggers love to call Republicans RINOs, but you call these racist conservative Southern Democrats "libs." You are dumber than a box of rocks. Seriously, you're a moron.

Have you read anything more challegning than a comic book or a Texas-approved history book? LOL what a dipwad you are.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse


LOL where did you go to school??? DC??? Sorry simplet0n but the Reps came out of the Northeast and some of the Midwest. The south was Southern LIB DEMS. How can anyone be as ignorant as you especially in the info age???? Pathetic


Buy a history book...

The Proclamation was immediately denounced by Copperhead Democrats who opposed the war and tolerated both secession and slavery. It became a campaign issue in the 1862 elections, in which the Democrats gained 28 seats in the House as well as the governorship of New York. Many War Democrats who had supported Lincoln's goal of saving the Union, balked at supporting emancipation. Lincoln's Gettysburg Address in November 1863 made indirect reference to the Proclamation and the ending of slavery as a war goal with the phrase "new birth of freedom". The Proclamation solidified Lincoln's support among the rapidly growing abolitionist element of the Republican Party and ensured they would not block his re-nomination in 1864.[21]

Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Slavery wasn't abolished in Mississippi until 1995, right Gov. Barbour?

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-825573.html

Posted by: SODDI | April 11, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Getting pretty sick and tired of these Blacks yelling "Racism". The worst racist is you dear MaoBama who refuses to mention that his mother was White Trash. If you don't like it here there are good fares waiting for you to return to your Wonderful Africa.

Posted by: mew72044 | April 11, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

There is an sad and obvious strategy that is slowly emerging here on behalf of the republican party; the Southern Strategy. From the talk radio to the political and media establishment in the republican party-there is an effort (direct or indirect) to delegitimitize President Obama. When we here republicans talking up secession, the confederacy, States rights, and "I Want My Country Back"; we know this kind of corrosive talk is not related to policy.

Posted by: freeworld23 | April 11, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

maybe askgees can tell us why five deep south states voted Republican in 1964. askgees's knowledge of history is about one millimeter deep.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 11, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

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Not to mention going for Wallace in 68.

Posted by: rrwickett | April 11, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse


LOL and it was you that said the DEMS passed the civil rights act. Talk about clueless. It makes no difference who the president was. The DEMS we're against the bill as I showed you. Keep twisting.

Posted by: askgees | April 11, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, askgees: Those Democrats you mention being against the Civil Rights Act were the same ones who left the party and became Republicans. Southern racist Democrats like Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond. Stop being an idiot, please.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 11, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse


Getting pretty sick and tired of these Blacks yelling "Racism". The worst racist is you dear MaoBama who refuses to mention that his mother was White Trash. If you don't like it here there are good fares waiting for you to return to your Wonderful Africa.

Posted by: mew72044 | April 11, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

You mush-mouth jacka$$. You know your history; Blacks were taken from Africa and forced into slavery by your ancestors. You wouldn't tell the Jews to go back to Israel or Europe, right? So don't to tell Blacks to go back to Africa. Talk like that again, and I'll report your IP Address to WaPo.

Posted by: freeworld23 | April 11, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are oblivious to matters of race. They invent and revise history to compensate for their ignorance. Lame, RACISTS AND THOUGHTLESS is my interpretation of the republican party.

Posted by: freeworld23 | April 11, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

What's really relevant today is that today’s Republicans view of slavery has not changed despite what Lincoln achieved! In today’s GOP, Lincoln would be labeled a RINO and marked for extinction.

McDonnell and Barbour dismissive argument of Slavery in the South as some quirk of history is no less dismal than Neo Nazis and Islamic fanatics denouncing the Holocaust as a fabrication of Zionist propagandist ignoring the real lessons learned from history.

With their current depiction of Slavery, Republicans now find themselves in the same company as Islamic fascists and Neo Nazis’!

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Getting pretty sick and tired of these Blacks yelling "Racism". The worst racist is you dear MaoBama who refuses to mention that his mother was White Trash. If you don't like it here there are good fares waiting for you to return to your Wonderful Africa.
Posted by: mew72044 | April 11, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

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Must be the dumb trailer park trash bimbo Gov Palin to which this idiot refers!

Definitely, not to be mistaken with President Obama Mom who was working on her PhD in Anthropology and most likely studied the primate branch which the ancestors of this primate emerged – “Homos Imbecilus” or “ignorant ass-ole”.

Posted by: Citi__Street | April 11, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the Confederates are any better than the Nazi's. No good comes out of commemorating such a terrible time in the history of the Unites States when southerners were defending their supposed right to enslave people.

Posted by: lar0309 | April 12, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Barbour, McDonnell and their fellow Republicans show their true color: racist white. Barbour thinks slavery was a "nit." I say Barbour is a nut.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | April 12, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Let's face it, the GOP is obsessed with race, and prepared to play the Race Card at every turn.

Posted by: osullivanc1 | April 12, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Feeding stale crackers to crackers.

Posted by: whocares666 | April 12, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

So an old white male governor of Mississippi thinks it's okay to be pro-confederacy and not think slavery was a big issue in the Civil War? Go figure.

Posted by: dolph924 | April 12, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Obama's election has opened the floodgates of mainstream racism. Republicans have perfected the racist "dog whistle" technique, and can now blow it loudly without real consequence...

This is what happens when media fails to remain independent of the "news makers" and curries their favor... People like Barbour, McDonnell, Palin, Hannity and Limbaugh are creations of American media trying to save itself, and are the most fraudulent "patriots" in the country...

Their dog whistles have the highest hateful pitch.

Anyone who wishes to honor a subversive "confederacy" that tried to destroy the Union because it wanted to disrespect human life on a scale larger and longer than Al-Qaeda and the Third Reich combined, needs their heads examined.

These dog whistlers should be considered a menace to American society...

Posted by: gmoore40 | April 12, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

How profoundly depressing it is to read these comments. I am grateful for the few bits of intelligence which shine through every so often, but the level of discourse here is so low that it makes me despair for my country. Has it really come to this? Freedom of thought and speech, free public education, libraries, books, the finest thoughts of the human race available on the internet, and these comments are the result? How sad for us all.

Posted by: edenson | April 12, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Truth is, without the industrialized, financially solvent, and globally connected North the South would have been in bad shape if it had won it's independence. The South was so tenuous financially that it depended on slavery to subsidize it's farming industry, just as southern farmers today take government subsidies to stay profitable.
Without partnership with booming Northern industrial money, education, and infrastructure the South would have been hobbled.
So the idea that there was some great economic or political foresight in secession is ridiculous.
Even without slavery as the epic symbol of that struggle, secession was a poorly conceived, short sighted mistake that would have cost this great nation dearly had they succeeded.

If we're going to honor anything it should be the good luck and dedicated effort that kept this country whole and removed the cancer of slavery from our shores.

Posted by: dccamp68 | April 12, 2010 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Not a "nit", but definitely a nitwit.

Posted by: laurajeanlaprade | April 12, 2010 3:24 AM | Report abuse

This is what the Republican Party is and always was. Thats why they win the southern states. These are their constituents. The only reason why their all showing their stripes is Obama is President. Republicans, Tea Party people are so angry that Obama won and the Democrats passed healthcare. Whats so bad about giving less fortunate people a chance to survive with the abiltiy to see a doctor if their sick. They didn't want healthcare reform just like they didn't want medicare. Its not that they don't want it for whites, they don't want it for non whites in this country. They are so concern with the deficit. There the ones who created it. When Bush put the Iraq war on the tab of the American were were the Republican and their famous NO Then, When Bush gave the richest Americans Tax Cuts without paying for either, where was the famous No then. They are scary....

Posted by: amosdefnails | April 12, 2010 3:53 AM | Report abuse

This is what the Republican Party is and always was. Thats why they win the southern states. These are their constituents. The only reason why their all showing their stripes is Obama is President. Republicans, Tea Party people are so angry that Obama won and the Democrats passed healthcare. Whats so bad about giving less fortunate people a chance to survive with the abiltiy to see a doctor if their sick. They didn't want healthcare reform just like they didn't want medicare. Its not that they don't want it for whites, they don't want it for non whites in this country. They are so concern with the deficit. There the ones who created it. When Bush put the Iraq war on the tab of the American where were the Republican and their famous NO Then, When Bush gave the richest Americans Tax Cuts without paying for either, where was the famous No then. They are scary....

Posted by: amosdefnails | April 12, 2010 3:55 AM | Report abuse

They couldn't even call it "Civil War" month; they can't drive the salt deeply enough in the wound.

I can't believe the racist morons.

Scratch that: I can, unfortunately, believe it perfectly well. That doesn't make it any less disgusting.

Boycott Virginia until they repeal this atrocity.

Posted by: andrew23boyle | April 12, 2010 4:38 AM | Report abuse

A lot of people have been saying lately how much we need a viable third party. Strange to say, the viable third party used to be the Republicans. In the 1850s, the racist Democrats and the racist Whigs were both the bad guys. The third party that challenged all that poisonous racism was the GOP. "Radical Republicans," as they were called in those days, wanted not only to abolish slavery, but also wanted black people to vote and run for political office. Ironic, don't you think? Nowadays it's the Republicans who run racist campaigns, do everything they can to suppress the vote in places like Detroit, and scream bloody murder about things like the motor-voter bill that makes it easier to register to vote. The Republicans have become their own mirror image.

Posted by: rbmurals | April 12, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The sad thing about this whole thing is one of my Facebook friends said the following:

"I may move to Mississippi"

I guess she was supporting racism and slavery when she said that. It's pretty pathetic, really. You think you know someone and then something like that happens.

Posted by: HawksPride | April 12, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour is a great American,,,


He believes that promoting Confederate History Month without talking about slavery is OK,,, and that slavery was bad,, but focusing on it now is not really important,,


And the Republican Party wants to fill a big tent,,


Remember this Southern Republican's you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig,,


you can wish away the history of the south, but it is still racist, even today


“To say that the systematic condemnation of millions to bondage and generation upon generation to servitude is ‘not significant,’ or that the tearing apart of families and the selling of human beings as cattle ‘doesn't amount to diddly’ is outrageous for any public official to say, let alone a man Republicans have placed in a position of leadership.”

Posted by: EastCoastnLA | April 12, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

My great-great grandfather was a Confederate private (2nd MS infantry) who was a POW, and lost a brother at Sharpsburg. He was a poor "dirt" farmer from Pontotoc Co. MS who did not want to go to war, considering it to be a "rich man's war, and a poor man's fight". Had he deserted, or chose not to fight, he would have been executed, as many deserters were. He did not own slaves, or a plantation. He served the CSA out of duty (as have thousands of Mississippians in every war in our nation's history), and for many years afterward attended Confederate Veterans gatherings, having shared a common history with other surviving CSA soldiers. For many southerners, such as myself, the CSA was a bad idea and on the wrong side of history. However, that fact does not negate the sacrifices that millions of men made fighting for the CSA. There are many who want to make this issue (remembrance) about slavery; and indeed, slavery was a salient issue leading to the Civil War. But my g-g grandfather did not fight to preserve slavery or "King Cotton"; only out of duty... had he been born in the North, undoubtedly he would have served in the Federal army, and this would be a non-issue. I honor his sacrifices...

Posted by: drrobert662 | April 12, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Southern govenors playing to their base.

Posted by: jckdoors | April 12, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Yay for Governor Barbour. This political correctness and these attempts of "character assasination" will only be put down when it becomes an actual political asset to speak the truth with courage.

Posted by: southernspartan | April 12, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

For something (slavery) that doesn't amount to a "diddly", I would reming Gov. Barbour that The Civil War or the War Between the States as well as many of our ancestors died (on both sides) because of that "diddly". Enslavement of any person then or now Governor,is not "diddly and shouldn't be thought of as that by any Christian North or South.

Posted by: mcdonalsherry | April 12, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

To drrobert - My Great Great Grandfather also fought in THE WAR. He was a Yankee - 5th New York Inf. As your ancesor didn't fight for slavery either did mine. He fought to preserve the Union. He was also a poor dirt farmer only in the North. I am also proud of his service and his family's sacrifices (13 died). I honor all (both sides) that fought in THE WAR but there is no Yankee Proclamation for mine and I wouldn't expect there to be one and if s Northern Governor proclaimed one I would also be upset. Your side either fought for slavery, states' rights or duty.
So did mine except one more - to preserve the Union. WE are Americans not Confederates or Yankees. We should all remember that we are brothers and sisters.
(By the way my grandpa Scott always respected Gen. Lee more than Gen. Grant)

Posted by: mcdonalsherry | April 12, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

For those who think slavery was so "unChristian", you need to think again. It had its downsides, no doubt, but slavery also had its good points which were much more Christian than today's system. With institutionalized slavery, master and boss lived together as family--each promising to be faithful to one another, like in a marriage. In today's system, lowly workers are often treated like dirt and sent home to some isolated apartment. Even with institutionalized slavery, people theoretically had the chance to save money and buy their way to freedom. Today, people are often given the illusion that they are free, but often it is just as difficult today for poor workers to ever make enough money to buy their way out of their situation. All you self-righteous people who are so adament about the evil of slavery just go ahead and give your retirement nest egg to the next poor minimum wage worker you see at McDonalds. That's what I thought. Was the system of institutionalized slavery perfect? No, and it could be abused--just like today's system. So, stop labelling slavery as such a huge evil when it still goes on today--just in another form (and this is exactly what many of our Southern ancestors said would happen). Especially when you likely won't give away your money or make the vow of poverty.

Posted by: southernspartan | April 12, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

The CNN interview on April 11, 2010 where Barbour made the statement that "McDonnell proclamation was not a mistake and the noise surrounding the controversy doesn't amount to diddly," I ask the question - was Barbour speaking for the RNC (chairman Michael Steele is dead, they just haven't had the funeral), Republican Tea Party, Council of Conservative Citizen, as the Governor of Mississippi or all of the above? Many of us know about his insensitive commemoration of the confederate battle flag when citizens attempted to remove it from public display. Responsible Republican Governors can issue Confederate History Month proclamations that lack any racist or bigoted controversy. Case in point - Republican Governor Jim Gilmore. So Mr. Barbour what may not be significant in the state of Mississippi is very significant in Virginia. Take off the head cover, its not about affirmative action but "Virginia History." I personally did not accept McDonnell apology because he meant what he said in the original version.

Posted by: wjhil69 | April 12, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The CNN interview on April 11, 2010 where Barbour made the statement that "McDonnell proclamation was not a mistake and the noise surrounding the controversy doesn't amount to diddly," I ask the question - was Barbour speaking for the RNC (chairman Michael Steele is dead, they just haven't had the funeral), Republican Tea Party, Council of Conservative Citizen, as the Governor of Mississippi or all of the above? Many of us know about his insensitive commemoration of the confederate battle flag when citizens attempted to remove it from public display. Responsible Republican Governors can issue Confederate History Month proclamations that lack any racist or bigoted controversy. Case in point - Republican Governor Jim Gilmore. So Mr. Barbour what may not be significant in the state of Mississippi is very significant in Virginia. Take off the head cover, its not about affirmative action but "Virginia History." I personally did not accept McDonnell apology because he meant what he said in the original version.

Posted by: wjhil69 | April 12, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

To mcdonalsherry: I am sure that you are proud of your ancestor's sacrifices to the cause of the Union. I am grateful for that as well...
I understand your position stating that if a northern state governor issued a "Yankee" proclamation that you would find it upsetting. I personally would find no offense in honoring the men who fought to preserve the Union, as such as we honor the sacrifices of the brave African-American men of the 54th Mass. and others to the cause of Union. I honor both sides as well; we are certainly a far greater nation as one than we would be as separate. I also honor men such as my 2nd cousin, who, as a pilot, died over France near the end of WWII; my granddad (WWII), dad (Korea), and my older brother who all served in the Navy... my uncle who served in the Army during Vietnam... my great uncle who died fighting in Germany...

Posted by: drrobert662 | April 12, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Virginia Governor Tancredos the Commonwealth! AG cheers!

Posted by: hoser3 | April 12, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Pass the HALEY'S M-O!

Posted by: hoser3 | April 12, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Southern governors pandering to their base-st elements.

Posted by: hoser3 | April 12, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

"With institutionalized slavery, master and boss lived together as family--each promising to be faithful to one another, like in a marriage."

posted by Southernpartisan.

Uhh - no. One owned the other. There was no promise. One lived in the mansion, the other in a hovel. Master could and did rape slave women, break up slave families, and sell off spouses or children to other plantations, beat and abuse the slaves.

Where did you hear this tripe? Is Southern education as awful as this?

Posted by: j3hess | April 13, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

These posts have bothered me all night. I live in MS and we are not racists. We have teeth and where shoes. We have a giant NASA facility here. Faith Hill and Morgan Freeman are from here. I'm white and I have several very close friends that are black and I live in a mixed neighborhood. The chaplain of my tea party group is black. What's wrong with all you people bad mouthing an entire state of people? You are the bigots. BTW. My ride along the beach this morning was beautiful.

Posted by: barryjohn | April 13, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Is the Confederacy a rebellion cloaked as a religious grass roots movement?

A number of past and recent events have raised serious alarms. It is as if we are experiencing a collective Ah Haaa! So, this is what the GOP code talk is all about! It is not enough to be born in America or pledge allegiance to America. Confederacy is being promoted as the "true American". US politics are now held hostage for the sake of those dreaming of reestablishing the Confederacy. They attach their ideology to anything that can be remotely used to resurrect their historic gripes and to establish their political goals.

When they scream big government, state rights and powers, they are reenacting the old Civil War conflict of independence from the Federal Government which prohibited their so called "rights" of elitism and powers to enslave and abuse people for economic gain. Extremists militias influenced by a religious Confederate ideology have already demonstrated a willingness to go as far as starting a civil war to have their way. Don't blame this movement on true Christianity. As demonstrated globally, any popular religion that put up with hypocrites engaging in social and political tyranny in the name of God will do. If they are able to achieve power over the majority religion, the Government, a private military and oil, they can do as Talibans or tyrants of Iran and rule America with an iron fist and inflict a religious punch.

A true Christian American given power to govern would not allow or open the way for our jobs to be sent over seas to maximize profits of those who buy political power. A true Christian American given power to govern would not spend their entire time in office dismantling the powers of the People's Government and regulations that prevent those seeking monetary power and Confederate rule. A true Christian American given power to govern would not partake in accusing the People's Government of institutional ineptitude while seeking to gain power over the People's Government. Such individuals, adverse to the People's Union, are not qualified to govern since they are committed to opposing, sabotaging, undermining, and destroying the People's Government, our Democracy, for the sake of the Confederacy. As for discerning religious ideology, true Christians are not hell bent on making life on earth profitable instead of heaven bound and bearable.

America, it is time to wake up. Stand up for our Union, the Government by the People and for the People. Pooling our collective power means paying taxes to support good causes for the sake of our Union. It is time to call upon Political leaders to affirm their allegiance to the United States of America and the Constitution by denouncing treasonous and rebellious activities of extremists who are attacking and destroying the People's Union for economical and political gain.

Posted by: shoutnow | April 14, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow shoutnow, spoken like a true socialist. "People's government." Growing up we used to say, "it's a free country." Today I don't know.

Posted by: barryjohn | April 15, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Why not have a Confederate month, we have a month for everything else? Shoutnow, the Confederacy is NOT being promoted as the "true America" it is simply remembering a point in time of our(AMERICA) history. Having a Confederate Month would be just like having Black History Month. When we have Black History Month do we need to tell the children in schools that the way some of the African Americans chose to voice themselves through violence was not right. No, we do not tell them that. The children learn about Martin Luther King, Jr. and Rosa Parks and the rights ways that the African Americans went about voicing themselves. Therefore with having a Confederate Month we would be remembering the soldiers of the Confederacy, and take a closer look at their views and why they fought for what they believed in.

Posted by: jls27 | April 16, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

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