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Va., eight other states legally side with Arizona on immigration

Rosalind Helderman

Virginia is formally siding with Arizona against the federal government on immigration, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli announced today.

Cuccinelli said the state has joined eight others in filing an amicus brief supporting Arizona's immigration laws. The federal government has sued Arizona over the law, arguing that the state has overreached its authority because immigration is regulated by federal law. Other states that also signed the brief are Michigan, Florida, Texas, South Carolina, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Nebraska and South Dakota. The effort is being led by the attorney general of Michigan.

"In creating immigration laws over the years, Congress created a joint federal-state cooperative immigration enforcement program," Cuccinelli said in a statement. "States merely report the immigration status of persons they have lawfully detained to the federal government. They do not make determinations regarding deportation, as that is a federal matter. While much of border enforcement is left to the federal government, federal law expressly allows states to arrest people who are not legally present in the United States. Arizona's law doesn't change any of this. That's why we are stunned that the government has sued Arizona."

Virginia is engaged in its own lawsuits against the federal government over the federal health-care law and the Environmental Protection Agency's regulation of greenhouse gases.

By Rosalind Helderman  |  July 14, 2010; 5:11 PM ET
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Obama keeps going against the will of the American people. This law suit should be dropped before it hurts the Democratic party even more.

Posted by: farmsnorton | July 14, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I want to know why Tennessee, Georgia, and North Carolina aren't included in the stand with Arizona. The Federal government has no intention of performing its duties. Impeach Obama.

Posted by: vickie105 | July 14, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Unless Americans don't speak up against this deleterious invasion of this country, many of our rights will be violated by the Liberal-Democrats. FAIR'S analysis indicates we pay out $113.billion dollars a year, sharing our welfare safety net with people who shouldn't even be here, with another $60 billion transferred out of the country by illegal workers. Much of this money goes into the pockets of "Anchor Baby" families. We must fight back, by ruining the career incumbents such as Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV). His state is in serious financial trouble as is California by catering to illegal aliens. Governors that include Bill Richardson (D-NM) should be placed on a recall list, as he issued Drivers Licenses to illegal aliens, which gave them freedom to move around the country. ALL STATES MUST BE UNDER OBSERVATION FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS VOTING IN STATES WITH NO SECURITY IN POLLING PLACES.If every state, county, city, community had a non-gratis, for illegal immigrants, the ACLU and all the extremists would have enough attorneys to fight them all.

Carefully scrutinize your federal, state or local constituency representative and recall, petition or just refuse to reelect them. No matter what I say brainless Americans will vote for these morons, who have sold themselves to special interest groups. But the bottom line is your family’s future is at risk, to be overrun by a massive potential voting blocks of foreign nationals. November and even before could be a vital election, as those who would do the millions of jobless Americans harm, will remain in power. Even some Democrats are having second views

Posted by: infinity555 | July 14, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

I hope all illegals leave. Then the real work can start

This is not about racism .

This is about obeying the law of the land.

This is about people who demand that they do not have to assimilate into society and become Americans.

This is about people who do not want to learn English but rather demand they be able to speak Spanish here.

This is about people who raise the Mexican flag on American soil.

This is about people who do not want to become legal as they don't want to pay taxes. But they do want full rights and FREE benefits.

This is about legal aliens, but whom are not full citizens, yet stand with their countrymen (legal and illegal Mexicans) but not with the US citizens.

This is about LEGAL aliens of Mexican descent who stand with their countrymen (illegal aliens, legal aliens, and the citizens of Mexico) but not with the US citizens.

This is about a president and Democratic party who would sell their soul and this country down the drain to buy the votes of the above mentioned people.

Once the illegals AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS GONE then the process of either making the legal aliens of Mexican descent learn the language and become TRUE American citizens can start. Those who want to assimilate can stay. The rest can be deported as well for being traitors.

IT JUST THAT SIMPLE!!

Posted by: WHOOSONPHIRST | July 14, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

If they are enforcing existing laws, why create another law to enforce an existing law?

Posted by: RojoJohnson | July 14, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

In 2008 in the middle of the night behind closed doors Pelosi used a War supplement bill to give protected status to 1.35 million illegal agriculture workers who had already been working here in the US for 45 months and their extended families which amounted to over 3 million (then) illegal’s. That is more people than is needed across the states to work fields.

Our borders are not secure and citizens of all states are so angry at the law suit filed against Arizona, that in 4 days people from all 50 states, DC and Puerto Rico, have donated over $500k to help the Arizona legal defence. There are millions of illegal aliens which can prove their illegal residency here for eight or nine years minimum, and most have a form of documentation with a pay stub, rent receipt, an anchor expense, CHIP enrolment (something). Starting in 2007 campaign innuendoes broke the record with the highest influx of border jumper’s in any given presidential election cycle. President Obama said the immigration rules are “unenforceable” for local law, I wonder if this is because of the vast numbers of illegal’s and drug cartels spread throughout our nation?

Since this administration is so sure there are only 12 million illegal aliens in the US, and Ellis Island has been updated, and much the same is in Florida to document immigrants. Consider: Absolutely NO social security or voting rights until becoming a legal English speaking citizen for 10 years to the date of meeting the crime restitution requirements. Once the twelve million numbers of illegals is reached (documented) DEPORT the other 16 million left over.

The unemployment rate for veterans rose in June, to 11.5 percent for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. Hire some of them to work with their local law serving the people of their own hometowns and surrounding communities. These veterans already have government run VA healthcare for five years running, and could save struggling towns short on law enforcement to actually save local tax monies (feds employ vets), while also saving local tax funds used toward the healthcare insurance for local law enforcement. There are more than enough already trained unemployed veterans to help deport all 28 million illegal border jumpers.

Two other presidents already enforced immigration laws to employ war vets, this would be the third time, and because it is for national security this time will be the charm. This time we permanently secure our borders. President Obama recently said “Our borders are just too vast for us to be able to solve the problem only with fences and border patrols," and he said "It won't work.” Seems the old adage is still working fine because Mr. Obama’s best bet is to hire the vets.

Posted by: patpacer | July 15, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Where's Delaware? Where's Maryland? Where's New Jersey? Where's New York? Every State should be backing Arizona! It's time to step up and get all the illegal aliens in this country back to their own Country where they belong.

Posted by: scuncic | July 15, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: WHOOSONPHIRST "Once the illegals AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS GONE then the process of either making the legal aliens of Mexican descent learn the language and become TRUE American citizens can start. Those who want to assimilate can stay. The rest can be deported as well for being traitors."
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You forget, this sense of entitlement the illegals and their supporters have all started with reagan and his amesty program. Do not blame the democrats, this has been going on for decades iwth presidents and congresses lead by both parties doing nothing. 60% of the last 30 years saw Republican presidents and Republicans held majorities in Congress more than half of that time Most notable for 12 of the last 14 years and absolutely nothing was done (except possible miking it easier for corporations to hire illegals). Don't blame the Dems, its everybodies failure.



Posted by: schnauzer2 | July 15, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

WHOOSONPHIRST wrote: This is not about racism. This is about obeying the law of the land.
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Exactly. But of course in this country, when all else fails, play the race card...which, of course, the pro-illegals groups are doing.

Supporting Arizona's immigration laws is the first sensible thing Cuckoo Nellie has done.

Posted by: checkered1 | July 15, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

This is the FIRST (and probably ONLY) thing I agree with Kooch. It's not a racial thing. It's a they are here ILLEGALLY thing. If one steals your identity to get a job, see how it feels trying to straighten out that disaster with the IRS and Social Security. They hang out and loiter, and the local police do nothing. At least AZ has the guts to stand up and do what's right for itself. B/c Obama & Holder are making a freaking mess of this situation. Why are they against people following the law??

Posted by: ms1234 | July 15, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

The Arizona law will be struck down. Even if you agree with its goals, we are not a country if each state sets its own immigration laws.
Again, Cucinelli places ideology over legal competence. Again, he will lose and waste Virginia taxpayer dollars.

Posted by: krickey7 | July 15, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Bravo. Maryland, where are you! SI SE PUEDE!

Posted by: thenoggin | July 15, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I like ice cream.

Posted by: nudar | July 15, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Is my state ACTUALLY wasting money on suing the government on everything? REALLY? No wonder our schools suffer. All the money McDonnell's people have wasted on suing on greenhouse gases and health care. Health care is now unconstitutional? Wow.

Posted by: mbell83 | July 15, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Arizona's law is seriously flawed and should be re-written to say that the police should check the legal status of EVERYONE arrested for any crime that could result in a year in jail or more.

By letting the police decide who's status to check based on appearance or a hunch, makes it arbitrary and unfair.

There are plenty of illegals from Ireland or other European countries who are white and could avoid being checked making this law unfair.

It's no surprize tho, to read cuccinelli has decided to support arizona at the expense of virginia taxpayers.
there doesn't seem to be any issue that liberty university sides with, that cuccinelli doesn't throw his weight (and virginia tax dollars) behind.

Posted by: MarilynManson | July 15, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Don't police officers already determine who they run checks (immigration, warrants) on anyway? Cops don't run a check to see if everyone they pull over has warrants. They do it for people they think have warrants. They don't give tickets to everyone who has committed a traffic violation. Much of police work is up to the officer's discretion, whether its right or not. I view the AZ law as giving cops permission to do what they do anyway.

Every time this illegal topic and police comes up I think about a guy I know from the UK. His brother was in the US (legally) visiting for a few months. While here he was arrested for smoking weed. Deported and banned from coming back to the US (this happened in MD). He broke the law and paid the price, ok. So why is it that there have been criminals who have been arrested numerous times for violent crimes and after they murder someone its just learned that they are in the country illegally?

If MD (and other states) had the capabilities turning over this guy to immigration nearly 10 years ago why not do the same for illegals from south of the border?

Posted by: Redial1 | July 15, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Once again, the elected officials in VA are throwing their citizens back in time and they (the citizens) are paying for it with these lawsuits!!!

Posted by: OHREALLYNOW | July 15, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Once again, the elected officials in VA are throwing their citizens back in time with these dumb lawsuits and they (the citizens) are paying for it !!!

Posted by: OHREALLYNOW | July 15, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Well the good news about all of this, is that all the heavy, mean spirited rhetoric about illegals from teabagging republicans, is going to drive a huge wedge between republicans and hispanic voters.
Just read thru some of the hate filled comments about illegals only wanting to speak spanish or other bigoted remarks on this article and it's clear that it's going to be hard for republicans to win any friends or votes from the latino community.
Sure all of this plays great to the republican base, but you need independants and cross over votes to win state wide or national contests.
This is all pushing the republican party into becoming more like some old man sitting on the porch yelling at the kids playing in the street who just laugh back at him.
Marginalized, weak, ineffectual, out of the mainstream but very noisy. Thats the face of the new teabagging republican far right.

Posted by: MarilynManson | July 15, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs a national id card, it could be part of drivers license system for those who drive too.

Posted by: Pensfans | July 15, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse


Cuccinelli is a twit, a 5'5" of him.


Posted by: mortified469 | July 15, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

good for Virginia. It's about time someone is held to accountability for their actions. Liberals cry over the plight of the latino and encourage him to trample all over this nation's laws. Yet more prrof that liberals hate America and Americans.

Posted by: VAtrailerTrash | July 15, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

@MarilynManson:

"Well the good news about all of this, is that all the heavy, mean spirited rhetoric about illegals from teabagging republicans, is going to drive a huge wedge between republicans and hispanic voters."

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Fine with me.

First, hispanic voters already vote 2-1 Democrat.

Second, hispanic voters were less than 9% of the electorate in 2008. It is a MYTH that they are a significant voting block. Blacks are 50% larger.

Third, whites were 78% of electorate in 2008, and are 60-70% in favor of the Arizona law. Picking up just 10% more white voters will more than compensate for losing the rest of the hispanic vote.

Posted by: pmendez | July 15, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Whatever your opinion on this matter, Cucinelli doesn't seem like a very good lawyer.

Posted by: 123cartoon | July 15, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

@pmendez
First, hispanic voters already vote 2-1 Democrat.
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while that may be true, the fact remains without that 1/3, GW Bush would of lost both elections with margins so big no supreme court verdict could ever overcome.

Secondly, you can bet your bottom dollar Latino's will be voting in far greater numbers now that it seems like they are being personally singled out for harassment over citizenship and their right to be an American is being challenged.
Mexicans have ancestors who have lived in North America for over 40,000 years.
Since the first white settlers were never given visa's by the native americans, maybe it's the white man who is the illegal.

I wouldnt be surprized if Latino's doubled their voting numbers.

Obama is a sure win for re-election, and then Hillary is coming after him.

Thank you Teabaggers!

Posted by: MarilynManson | July 15, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone published an accurate assessment of the true cost of illegal immigration? I mean the true costs including the dependents (anchor babies).. calculated from, let's say, 1982 when the flood gates opened after Plyler vs. Doe (look it up).

- WIC
- Medicaid
- Education
- enrollment spikes, school lunch programs, ESL
- lost tax revenue (employment cash payments paid under table) revenue wired south
- other democrat entitlements/programs I can’t think of or unaware of
- indirect costs.. like the impact to black males who can’t find work
- etc etc etc

all to build the democrat base

Posted by: genbarlow | July 15, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

@MarilynManson:

Since Bush v. Gore was so close, you could say left-handed lesbians tipped the balance. Again, if the Republicans pick up just 105 more whites, they can say adios to the latinos.

Latinos don't vote because so many are a) ninos, and/or b) not citizens. Although I'm sure ACORN and Democrats are working on ways to double their voting, anyway.

After we deport the illegal aliens, they'll take their American-born ninos with them, and we won't have to worry about them voting when they turn 18.

See you in November!

Posted by: pmendez | July 15, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

@Genbarlow:

In Maryland, illegal aliens cost taxpayers $1.4 billion per year in just public education, emergency healthcare and incarceration. Adding in other social services and indirect costs like lost taxes and unemployed Americans make it worse.

SOURCE: http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/md_costsw.pdf?docID=4001

Posted by: pmendez | July 15, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Is this honor among thieves that / obama hating prosecutors want to gang up to show solidarity or Virgina has too much money to waste on political agendas and innuendos of choice interest groups. Has virgina solved the traffic mess for which it claims it has no money to spend or to relive out of work and near foreclosure resident. Fighting the central government instead of working with the process is what start demise of big empires, unfortunately Bush and cronies alway forced their ways on every issue dragging us into lenghty wars so Arizona governor is following the same suit of it is my way or highway even though states like Arizon and Texas benefit most from slave like cheap labor many hispanics offer for little return.

Posted by: Jim110 | July 15, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

The new Arizona immigration law doesn't address human rights issues, but can hurt U.S. citizen who have to rely on help from foreign-born relatives. Our country urgently needs a comprehensive immigration reform to fix our broken immigration system. There are many reasons why we need the reform, and one of them involves human rights issues.
Our current immigration law does not support U.S. families who take care of disabled U.S. citizens , including disabled U.S. veterans. A disabled veteran should not have to physically and emotionally suffer and be condemned to premature death because a visa number is not available for a veteran's adult step child's approved green card petition even though the stepchild is a non-replaceable full-time care giver to the veteran.
My husband, is a Native American, a retired officer of the U.S. Armed Forces, and a disabled housebound veteran. My husband suffers from two major illnesses: Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and Frontotemporal Dementia (FTD), a neurologic progressive disease which destroys the human brain and which is classified as a terminal condition. In my husband's case, both diseases interact with each other, and my husband requires 24-hour care. Because of my husband's medical and combat background, it is impossible to institutionalize my husband without causing him severe emotional distress and substantially shortening his life expectancy; therefore, our family has decided to provide in-home care for my husband and has been taking care of him for the last several years.
My son and I are of foreign national origin. I am a U.S. citizen. Luckily for my husband and me, my son is living with us and is helping me to take care of my husband. My son came to the U.S. to attend a university on a student visa. However, our current immigrations systems includes no provisions to allow foreign-born adult children, not even those of U.S. citizens, to stay as a caregiver to their parents once the student visa expires, not even when a parent become fully disabled. In fact, a disabled person's adult child faces the choice of either leaving the U.S. and a mother or father who is in great need behind or overstaying the visa to provide desperately needed help but putting the own future in this country and the own legal status at risk.
Please visit our blog for more information:
http://immigration-disabled-american-veteran.blogspot.com/2010/07/immigration-reform-and-family.html

Posted by: Spouse_of_veteran | July 18, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I am deeply shamed and angered that Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is using my tax dollars in support of the Arizona Immigration Law. He is wasting his time and the time of his staff on this issue. If Mr Cuccinelli were truly concerned about immigration laws being broken, he would support measures that penalize the EMPLOYERS of illegal immigrants. If there were no employers hiring illegals, there would be no problem. The "haters of brown people" are supposedly angry because illegal immigrants take the jobs from US citizens that want to perform these jobs... WELL...all that needs to happen is to throw company managers and shareholders in jail if they hire illegals. TRUST ME...PROBLEM SOLVED.... Have you ever observed immigrants work ethic?...I HAVE.. They are the hardest working crews I have seen....I know that is a generalization, but it is what I have observed.

Mr. Cuccinelli, please spend your time and my tax dollars DEFENDING victims of crimes. Please spend your time and my tax dollars enforcing laws that are ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!!Mr. Cuccinelli, I just read your job descroption. I don't believe what you are doing is in your job description....
www.oag.state.va.us/OUR_OFFICE/Role.html
DO YOUR JOB...

Posted by: shnapier1 | July 20, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Sad, but the USA is doomed, unless,

. get rid of lobbyists
. elect politicians who are against illegals, for industry, but not loyal to the industries
. deport all and their kids, this won't separate families,
. stop foreign aid,
. close bases,
. change the education system to be uniform,
. get troops home to guard the border and build the country,
. reduce trade with China,
. bring back industries: TV's, appliances, textiles, steel, cement, dry wall,
. be self-sufficient,
. use our own oil.
. make a flat tax, as in a sales tax

The illegals triple every year, not counting the prior amnesties:

20 million 2010
60 million 2030
180 million 2050
540 million 2070
1 billion 620 million in 2090 and
4 billion 860 million by 2110

Vote for John Tucker, A non-new world order person

Posted by: USMufdvr | July 20, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

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