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McDonnell, Granholm square off on CNN's 'State of the Union'

Anita Kumar

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) said Sunday morning on CNN's "State of the Union'' that a federal judge was wrong "to overturn the will of the people" when he threw out California's ban on same-sex marriage.

"I'm hoping that, ultimately, if it gets to the U.S. Supreme Court, they will agree,'' he said. "And so right now, it has -- it has no impact on us in Virginia."

Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D), meanwhile, called the decision "courageous."

"And I'm glad for -- for Michigan's sake, I'm glad that it actually happened, because I'd like to see this moved to a higher level and affect more states,'' she said.

McDonnell and Granholm debated key issues of the day on the show. As you would expect, the two term-limited governors from different parties had starkly different views on the federal stimulus package, same-sex marriage, health care and immigration.

When asked by host Candy Crowley, McDonnell said he thinks the federal stimulus package "probably helped" Virginia's economy in a limited way.

"Our strong economic development initiatives have helped a lot,'' he said. "It was probably a team effort. But we're glad to be well ahead of some other states and hopefully in the right direction."

Granholm said she has seen some progress in Michigan's economy too, but gave more credit to the federal dollars. "There is no doubt that this has been critically important money for us as we make our way through this recession," she said.

On immigration, which McDonnell has found himself talking about frequently in the past week, he explained that he is asking the federal government to train and deputize state troopers so they can make legal-status checks and refer individuals for deportation.

As we wrote in today's paper, Virginia Republicans who had backed away from illegal immigration the past couple of years are embracing the issue once again, emboldened after Arizona legislators passed a tough new law.

"There's a provision that allows Virginia law enforcement officers to be trained as ICE agents, Immigration & Customs Enforcement agents, to be able to assist with the immigration enforcement,'' he said. "They're not funded enough. They're not staffed enough. So we want to use federal law to be able to have state troopers do it."

Granholm responded: "I appreciate the fact that that Bob McDonnell is trying to get some additional help for Virginia. Any time a Republican governor is going to Washington, asking for more resources, I think that's an interesting thing. And I -- I think he's being creative."

By Anita Kumar  |  August 8, 2010; 10:38 AM ET
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8.5 Million jobs Republicans lost/fast under their boy/Blew it Bush, who also left a record/debt/bill/deficit of $1.5 TRILLION DOLLARS, and my favorite fact, then the party/NO/REpublicans who ruined you but good/America left/office/town with the "LOWEST JOB APPROVAL RATING IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENCY 20 PERCENT, THE PEW POLL REPORTED!

..."Only a "FOOL" would/ever vote Republican again after the "CRIMINAL/RECORD/MESS/Party/NO/REpublicans dumped in the President's lap and yours!

As a registered Voter/Vet USAF, I am disgusted with what the Republicans have done to my country!

..."Be sure now/you/run and put them back in, so they can lose another 8.5 Million jobs and maybe get yours next time...

..."APPRECIATE IT!

Posted by: ztcb41 | August 8, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

It looks like Don't Ask,Don't Tell worked out for you.

Posted by: Peterjdennis | August 8, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

@ztcb41-

Well your new King, Obonehead sure really screwed things up.

Let us count the ways-

1. Unemployment- More than doubled on the Obonehead watch.

2. Taxes- They'll be rising FOR EVERYBODY.

3. Medicare- Who stole 1/2 Trillion Dollars from the Medicare Trust Fund, for Obummer-care?

4. Medicine Cabinet Tax, AKA the Tampon Tax- Remember when Dristan and cold remedies were chargeable to medical flex-spend accounts? No more, after 2011.

5. Caps on Medical Flex-Spend- mine was cut in half ($2,500) and increases my tax liability.

6. Health Savings Accounts withdrawls- now 20%, instead of 10%.

7. "Cadillac Insurance Tax"- Cost containment, not, just another revenue raiser.

8. Medical Equipment Tax- Plan on spending more.

9. Brand Name Drug Tax- Plan on spending more and seeing less R&D.

10. Medicare tax on proceeds from stocks and bonds. This puts the screws to seniors with IRA's and 401k-type accounts.

If it comes down to having more money, in my pocket, instead of King Obonehead's, I think I do a pretty good job of my discretionary income for my family, than Obonehead could by redistributing th fruits of my labor, for the losers, lazy and shiftless, the welfare bums, and the illegal aliens that proliferate this country.

My money pays for goods and services. Government money enables pewople and goes down a rat-hole. Malt liquor or cerveza, anybody?

That's why I am voting Republican.

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | August 8, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I would like to have seen a Green Party leader included on the show.

http://www.VoteJoinRun.us

Posted by: CareyCampbell | August 8, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

ZTCB41 - From one flyboy vet to another - I really do like the cut of your rug. It's to bad the other malcontents can't see this. Perhaps too, a couple of the malcontents could learn a little respect as well...

Posted by: rogell | August 8, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

ZTCB41 - From one flyboy vet to another - I really do like the cut of your rug. It's to bad the other malcontents can't see this. Perhaps too, a couple of the malcontents could learn a little respect as well...

Posted by: rogell | August 8, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Computer_Forensics_Expert:

You're voting Republican? Who would have guessed?

"Malt liquor or cerveza, anybody?"

Another racist statement. Go on, try to argue that it's not. You didn't have to say you were voting Republican. Your racism made that clear. Next time avoid being redundant.

Posted by: jazzi1 | August 8, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

For the “current” GOP the question is always; how can I pass Oil, Coal, and Gas Pollution and Poisons onto the Public without making the Polluters pay for it? Giving the Oil industry a Trillion and the Wealthiest Trillions when America is in desperate need is a crying shame.

How…How…How….Eureka…I’ll call it an Evil Energy Tax so Pollution can continue unabated to be paid for by the Public while I take the Profits. An Evil Tax is much worse, much for Fearful than a little Poison or CO2 that you cannot see.

The Oil and Coal industries are stifling the creation of American Jobs and Manufacturing by paying lobbyists and politicians to limit and inhibit the deployment of American Innovation, Efficiency and Technology producing products to replace Oil and Coal use.

Coal industry costs West Virginia state taxpayers nearly $100 million a year in 2009 after costs and benefits are fully accounted for:

http://www.wvpolicy.org/downloads/news_releases/NR062310.pdf

Massey Energy, paid an average of 5.6 percent of its profits in federal income taxes over the last three years, despite large profits (1/6th of federal 35% rate).

http://www.wvpolicy.org/downloads/news_releases/NR041510.pdf

At the Tiller No. 1 mine in Southwestern Virginia, Inspectors have noted more than 625 Life Threatening safety problems in the past three years. Regulators, operators wrangle over mine safety:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2010/06/01/ST2010060104486.html?sid=ST2010060104486

“The site is prone to cave-ins and rock falls, and inspectors have chronicled more than 625 serious offenses over the past three years that could pose an imminent threat to workers.”

Shame Shame Shame on the GOP for allowing Oil and Coal to Profit Hundreds of Billions annually on their ability to Pollute and pass pollution costs onto the American public, and to endanger and intimidate their workers on a daily basis.

Posted by: Airborne82 | August 9, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

McDonnell and Cuccinelli have Virginia in a race to the bottom of an Oil well, starting with refusing $250 Million for education and dumbing down students, refusing $125 Million in aid to the recently unemployed, supporting the Confederate legacy of Slavery, and ignoring life threatening treatment of coal workers while keeping Virginia dependent on West Virginia coal whose price is dependent on the Industries rampant pollution and poisoning of local communities where it’s mined and transported.

VA workers receive $118 Billion a year in Government spending but the state refuses to raise taxes enough to pay for basic infrastructure improvements. See: Virginia's love-hate relationship with federal spending

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/05/AR2010050505205.html

“Ten cents of every federal procurement dollar spent anywhere on Earth is spent in Virginia.

Governor McDonnell’s delaying aid to Virginia’s unemployed is purely political punishment for being unemployed with no basis in long term extra costs to companies. McDonnell and Cuccinelli’s Tea Party Right Wing Christianity is a terrible Hammer to waste, especially when there are weak, young, elderly and vulnerable people to trample on.

Posted by: Airborne82 | August 9, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

"8.5 Million jobs Republicans lost/fast under their boy/Blew it Bush, who also left a record/debt/bill/deficit of $1.5 TRILLION DOLLARS, and my favorite fact, then the party/NO/REpublicans who ruined you but good/America left/office/town with the "LOWEST JOB APPROVAL RATING IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENCY 20 PERCENT, THE PEW POLL REPORTED!
..."Only a "FOOL" would/ever vote Republican again after the "CRIMINAL/RECORD/MESS/Party/NO/REpublicans dumped in the President's lap and yours!
As a registered Voter/Vet USAF, I am disgusted with what the Republicans have done to my country!
..."Be sure now/you/run and put them back in, so they can lose another 8.5 Million jobs and maybe get yours next time...
..."APPRECIATE IT!
Posted by: ztcb41 | August 8, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse"

everyone now the dems were responsable for the credit crisis because they wanted to give every non qualified person a house...
and them for the election...
they grabbed that house from under them...
that is the truth...
thats what people know...
not your lies...

Posted by: DwightCollins | August 9, 2010 5:37 AM | Report abuse

The VA gov shows his true colors. A southern boy with those same old Republican cloth coats that hide the real truth of how they feel about the common man. Cant get away from their hatred of the poor the weak and the different. Same old crap from them and their ilk. They need lots of help. and prayers.

Posted by: 1set | August 9, 2010 7:00 AM | Report abuse

Bush Busted for No Down Payment Mortgages and Outsourcing USA Jobs overseas:

By Thomas A. Fogarty, USA TODAY Published January 20, 2004:

"Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership” “In a bid to boost minority homeownership, President Bush will ask Congress for authority to eliminate the down-payment requirement for Federal Housing Administration loans."

BUSH SUPPORTS SHIFT OF JOBS OVERSEAS February 10, 2004

The loss of work to other countries, while painful in the short term, will enrich the economy eventually, his report to Congress says. WASHINGTON — The movement of American factory jobs and white-collar work to other countries is part of a positive transformation that will enrich the U.S. economy over time, even if it causes short-term pain and dislocation, the Bush administration said Monday. The embrace of foreign outsourcing, an accelerating trend that has contributed to U.S. job losses in recent years and has become an issue in the 2004 elections, is contained in the president's annual report to Congress on the health of the economy.
more --

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb/10/nation/na-bushecon10

Posted by: Airborne82 | August 9, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Governor McDonnell accepted $4.5 Billion for Federal Stimulus funding ($6.9 Billion with the tax cuts and small business loans) but refuses to accept the $125 Million in federal stimulus aid for Virginia’s unemployed that is languishing and soon to be given to another state because it might add a cost of $2.62-$4.50/year per employee for the unemployment insurance trust fund to expand eligibility to more people in need.

Virginia has gotten $6.9 Billion of 100% Taxpayer funded stimulus funding while refusing only the $125 Million in unemployment benefits for the people most in need of help and the $250 million in education funds to improve and standardize students progress.

http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecipientReportedData/pages/RecipientReportedDataMap.aspx?State=VA&datasource=recipient

How to provide more help for unemployed Virginians

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/16/AR2010071603849.html

Posted by: Airborne82 | August 9, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

i'm missing something here. marriage is essentially a contract between two individuals. sure, the bible thumpers want to attach a religious aura to it, but marital disputes are generally settled in court, not church. no one is seriously arguing that we should prohibit commercial transactions between homos, such as selling a car, and the state of texas has been put on notice by the supreme court that it can't tell homos what they can and cannot do with each other, so why all the uproar about two individuals of that persuasion being able to share their property and lives?

Posted by: jimfilyaw | August 9, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

everyone now the dems were responsable for the credit crisis because they wanted to give every non qualified person a house...
and them for the election...
they grabbed that house from under them...
that is the truth...
thats what people know...
not your lies...

Dwight, what crack are you smoking? Aside from the grammatical, the logical component is sorely lacking. 20% of our population is now unemployed or underemployed (ie, seeking full time employment.) This implosion occured on the watch of the Last commander. See, generally, the TARP discussions... Why do you blame so easily and falsely?

Posted by: RogerRamjet2 | August 9, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps our history-challenged governor would prefer that Virginia still ban interracial marriage. After all back then it was the will of the people.

Thank goodness he's term limited...to one term!

Posted by: zzishate@yahoo.com | August 9, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

The judge in CA. made a rational, adult decision. Rights cannot be voted on, they are just that, rights. No amount of bible thumping, and saying "just because" changes that.

Posted by: jckdoors | August 9, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

thank-you airborne82. This is what is neccessary to remind any of those voters who for some strange reason think Prez Obama started the recession. again, thanks for an informative and factual post.

Posted by: katem1 | August 9, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

thank-you airborne82. This is what is neccessary to remind any of those voters who for some strange reason think Prez Obama started the recession. again, thanks for an informative and factual post.

Posted by: katem1 | August 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

There is no right to marriage. You're all retarded, just retarded (am I a racist now?).

Marriage is a religious institution - it and its predecessors have been around a lot longer than governments as we know them today. Civil Unions are governmental. Get rid of the word "marriage" as a description of civil unions and all your problems go away. Why is this so hard to understand?

Before this country go so paranoid about offending everyone this was not a big deal. Now we don't want to offend the gay. Or the transexual. What's next, three men getting married? I personally could care less, but as long as you equate your civil marriage to your religious marriage I have a problem because they are two vastly different things.

Instead of jumping to conclusions and throwing the "racist" word around or at the governor and how Obama he's Obum-nutz or whatever you called him, let's please, for the sake of God and my digital ears, wait and see how all this pans out. Granholm's right, the federal stimulus dollars that were used for the govt. to buy the car companies in her state did, I'm sure, save some jobs. But at what cost? We will see. And I liken McDonnell to Christie who has been black-balled in the media despite doing some very good things for New Jersey. Many of the people reading this junk are also likely to probably fall for the tactics of the liberal bias media. Go read the primary-source stuff for yourself before you start with the uncalled-for slurring.

This is part of the reason I hate the Post - the readers seem so uninformed. I tell you all: GET OUT OF THE WASHINGTON BUBBLE.

Posted by: fluF_puf | August 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

If McDonnell were governor in 1967, it's certain he'd be complaining that judges overruled the will of the people in Loving vs Virginia.

Posted by: hitpoints | August 9, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"Marriage is a religious institution"

How do atheists manage to get married? Should atheists not be allowed to enter into marriages, but instead be required to have a "civil union" that cannot be called marriage, lest it make religious people feel their own marriages are threatened?

Perhaps you could explain how marriage in the old days was a religious institution when it was being used for business purposes, such as enhancing a family's wealth or power through the arranged marriages of children?

Posted by: hitpoints | August 9, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

while I was married in a church I did not get a marriage license from the church, it came from the government.

Religions (mostly Christian churches in US) can decide who is eligible to come boefre them for marriage ceromonies. At the same time states decides who gets licensed thus making marriage a governmental issue and bringing it in to play in the courts.

Posted by: Pensfans | August 9, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Regarding McDonnell's "will of the people" argument ... isn't part of the problem California's penchant to put everything before a public vote? Proposition 8 passed with margins of 52-48%. But attitudes are changing, and the reverse margin could have occurred if another proposition was voted on in a few years. At what point, if ever, do these things become settled law if the voters keep changing their minds? That's why sometimes the courts do have to step in. And no wonder California is in such budget trouble if it must hold votes on absolutely everything.

Posted by: valandsend | August 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The utter disrespect that some show toward Prsident Obama certainly couldn't be coming from those who said that Bush was being bashed when he was President.

President Obama has shown absolutely no malice or disrespect toward the opposition or even its many anti-American views. Obama has tried to demonstrate by courageous example how civil debate is supposed to work. In the end, I pray that civility and correct thinking will win the day.

By the way, what has happened to the "there is no global warming" people? I've not heard a peep from them. :) Maybe they are like the death-panel people and the birthers. Conspiracy advocates can only last so long.

Posted by: EarlC | August 9, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Granholm is an idiot and could not have been a bigger disaster as governor if she had tried.

Posted by: thebump | August 9, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

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