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PAC Payment to Edwards's Mistress Explained

POSTED: 12:10 PM ET, 08/15/2008 by Derek Kravitz

The mystery of the $14,000 payment to John Edwards's mistress from the onetime presidential candidate's political action committee might have been solved.

An associate of Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, told The Associated Press that the money was paid to 44-year-old videographer Rielle Hunter -- after she had stopped working for the campaign -- for 100 hours of unused "Webisode" videotape for which she had already received $100,000.

The subject of the $14,000 payment has been a particularly murky one as the Edwards affair has unfolded in the press. Edwards's OneAmerica political action committee is governed by U.S. election laws. If Edwards had directed money for personal use, it would have constituted a criminal violation of federal law.

A report by The New York Times also shows that Edwards's political action committee went to "unusual lengths" to make the final $14,000 payment to Hunter:

"The payment was issued while the committee was short on cash and could pay its bills only after receiving thousands of dollars from Mr. Edwards's presidential campaign and donations from four people," according to the story.

The New York Times also found that the affair might have gone on longer than Edwards admitted and that the effort to hide it was "much more extensive" than previously thought.

Two attorneys connected to the Edwards' campaign responded to the affair story on behalf of different parties -- Robert J. Gordon of New York defending the mistress, Rielle Hunter; and Pamela J. Marple of Washington, claiming that her client, Edwards campaign aide Andrew Young, had fathered Hunter's baby.

Both Gordon and Marple are linked to wealthy Dallas attorney Fred Baron, the former finance chairman for the Edwards campaign who helped pay for Hunter to relocate and whose wife donated money so that the aforementioned $14,000 payment could be made.

By Derek Kravitz |  August 15, 2008; 12:10 PM ET
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Edwards has dug himself deeper into a hole with his lies. Watch for him to lose his law license and worse.

Washington Post - you need to do some digging yourself.

Posted by: Alison | August 15, 2008 1:20 PM

The mystery payment question might have been solved?!?! What brings you to that conclusion? Even your own story, citing NYT investigations, seems to question the payment, that the wife of a former finance chairman of the Edwards campaign had to donate money to a cash-starved campaign so that it could pay for UNUSED video (while the $100,000 payment for 4 videos was already made). So, where is the next logical step in this investigation of yours? Are you going to look into the other obligations of the cash-strapped campaign that might have been overlooked or ignored so that this payment for something can that arguably be deemed less important be paid off? Isn't it convenient that these unused videos were sitting around, waiting to be purchases? Did anyone ever ask to see them vs taking the word of the attorneys?

Posted by: Jason | August 15, 2008 1:22 PM

Hey I believe everything J. Edwards says, especially about helping the poor, hating the Republicans, calling A. Coulter terrible names. Now the sissyman with the michael jackson hairdoo and now he says he is not the father of his misfits(mistress) baby. Next he will tell us he has a cure for cancer. Go John 2012! Oh by the way what did you name your new kid.

Posted by: Mean Weasel | August 15, 2008 1:23 PM

WP, you should be ashamed posting this "solved" mystery. Why don't you just claim that you fathered the child? Mystery solved. What a joke.

Posted by: mark | August 15, 2008 1:27 PM

Definitely looks like Edwards and a very few of his campaign folks were desperately trying to cover his affair. It also looks like one of two things was happening....either Mr. Baron and his trusted buddies were paying Hunter off to stay quiet or else she was blackmailing Edwards. Edwards did an exceptionally stupid thing by simultaneously having an affair with Hunter and announcing his candidacy for the presidency and following up with campaigning, all the while deceiving his supporters and the majority of his campaign staff and volunteers. How stupid and unethical can a person be?? He is not alone though. McCain has his own history of gross unethical behavior by his wh**emongering while still married to Carol after his return from VietNam. McCain is using his POW status as a vehicle to the White House; therefore, he should be scrutinized and condemned for HIS actions as well. It all comes down to: good character, trustworthiness, moral ethics, integrity, honesty, family values, and good judgment as the leader of the country. BOTH McCAIN AND EDWARDS HAVE FAILED MISERABLY IN THESE IMPORTANT AREAS. EDWARDS IS BEING CASTIGATED AND CONDEMNED WHILE McCAIN IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE RIDING HIS POW AND OUTRAGIOUS LIES ABOUT HIS OPPONENT WITHOUT THE SCRUTINY AND CONDEMNATION OF THE MEDIA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!! JUST how FAIR is this?? McCain was involved in MULTIPLE affairs finally settling on and shacking up with his 22 year old bimbo who happened to be a rich heiress to a beer distributor. Her father pulled the right strings to get McCain into politics. McCain has NEVER done anything on HIS OWN merit!! Grandpa and Daddy Admirals ensured he was accepted at the Naval Academy, Grandpa and Daddy Admirals ensured he was literally given the job as a fighter pilot----John McCain graduated at the very bottom of his class---fifth to be exact---which means his brain power was less than average in the academy. Then Cindy's rich daddy with political connections pulled his strings to make sure McCain was accepted into the political field. NO, McCain has done nothing on his own merit...everything has been GIVEN to him!! That man has depended on the U.S. government and our taxes for his financial living his entire life. He really has NO idea how the middleclass and the poor have to scrimp and sacrifice in order to scrape by on a daily basis!! Talk about elitist!! Seven to ten houses and condos, $100+ million, and $600.00 shoes!! Indeed!!

Posted by: NinaK | August 15, 2008 1:28 PM

You gotta be kidding me. Any standard contract would have made all of her work product, including the unused material, the property of her client, and nobody would pay that much money at the end of the deal for scraps. Nobody except the lefties on Daily Kos and Huff Post are going to buy this fib.

Posted by: WashingtonDame | August 15, 2008 1:31 PM

Can you please explain how the "mystery" of the late payment "might have been solved"? I see nothing in this article that the NYT didn't already report, save an absurd introduction that is catchy but misleading. So "Washington Post Investigations" means surfing the web from your desk and repackaging other people's work with detective terminology about investigations and solving mysteries?

Posted by: Nathan | August 15, 2008 1:31 PM

Ummm-just speaking as a pretty far-left Democrat, where in heck do you guys get off with a headline like "might have been solved," when the story says that making the payment was a big fat strain? You sound like FOX in reverse.

Posted by: Archer | August 15, 2008 1:35 PM

(CONTINUED) Edwards also deceived an ENTIRE NATION and lied about his affair! AND Elizabeth, his wife aided and abetted his lying and enabled him by campaigning for and with him. ;(:(

Posted by: NinaK | August 15, 2008 1:37 PM

"might have been solved"?..this sounds more like Edwards and his 99% accuracy in his denial..Really good reporting there WPI

Posted by: Gary Rutherford | August 15, 2008 1:44 PM

Holy COW!!! This is NOT about McCain, Nina. Can you possibly NOT politicize EVERYTHING?
Holy COW #2!!! I simply cannot take it any longer - the constant lying and covering by "journalists" like this joker. Our media is completely sold out, irreparably. I mean, an article that basically says "Oh YEAH.. it was for VIDEO... that's right..." Nothing but filthy lies, everywhere - Lies!

Posted by: BenWaitin | August 15, 2008 1:47 PM

Edwards' "other woman" revives memories of a gruesome scandal

By Lester Munson, with William Nack

On Sunday, as I was sitting in my summer cabin in Vermont, completely

absorbed in a New York Times story about John Edwards' affair with

Rielle Hunter, I began reading a paragraph whose message shot through me

like a sudden bolt of electrical current. The story centered on Ms.

Hunter's refusal to take a DNA test to determine the paternity of her

5-month-old daughter, but that was not what startled me. It was this:

"Ms. Hunter was born in Fort Lauderdale. Fla., in 1964 as Lisa Druck and

moved to New York City in her 20s, becoming part of a Manhattan social

scene that included the writer Jay McInerney "

Here, I jumped up and blurted loudly to my wife, Judy: "Good God! John

Edwards was having sex with the daughter of the guy who taught Tommy

Burns how to kill horses by electrocuting them!"

That single line in the newspaper brought back vivid memories of one of

the most fascinating stories I ever worked on, a tale that led me to

trooping through show-horse barns, talking sotto voce to lawyers and FBI

agents, going out of my way to meet sources, including Burns, in various

hidden caves, coves and coffee booths.

Indeed, in 1992, back in the days when I was an investigative reporter

for Sports Illustrated, I spent weeks digging into reports that slowly

evolved into one of the biggest, most gruesome stories in sports, a

scandalous tale about a large group of rich and prominent horse owners

-- millionaires, many of them -- who were then being pursued by federaland state law enforcement officials for conspiring to kill high-priced

show horses to collect on their life insurance premiums. The story,

called "Blood Money," centered on the career of Tommy "The Sandman"

Burns, an otherwise cherubic 30-year-old drifter who had spent the last

10 years of his life traveling from barns to stables to horse shows and

killing one expensive show horse after another.

The story was written by William Nack, and in the third paragraph, he

wrote: "Burns' preferred method of killing horses was electrocution. It

had been so ever since the day in 1982 when, he says, the late James

Druck, an Ocala, Florida, attorney who represented insurance companies,

paid him to kill the brilliant show-jumper Henry the Hawk, on whose life

Druck had taken out a $150,000 life insurance policy."

Henry the Hawk was owned and shown by Druck's daughter, Lisa Druck --

who has just now emerged as the femme fatale in the sordid John Edwards

affair. She had changed her name to Rielle Hunter years ago. She had had

her share of love affairs over the years, including one with

best-selling author McInerney, who did a roman ࠣlef on Lisa's journey

titled "Story of My Life," in which the character patterned after her,

Alison Poole, was described by McInerney in a 2005 magazine story as "an

ostensibly jaded, cocaine-addled, sexually voracious 20-year-old who

was, shall we say, inspired by Lisa."

In fact, Lisa Druck was in the back of a pickup truck with her

then-boyfriend, Louis Whelen, when Burns slipped into Henry the Hawk's

barn with a handbag filled with his deadly equipment.

So it was her father, James, a criminally minded lawyer and conniver,

who started Tommy Burns on the way to his grisly career as a horse

killer. Nack and I met Burns at a hamburger joint housed on a bridge

spanning I-294 in northern Illinois in the early fall of 1992, as we

were winding up the reporting on the story. By then, Tommy was singing

his executioner's song to a grand jury, which ultimately would indict 36

people for their role in conspiring to kill horses -- 35 of whom would

be convicted of their crimes, mostly insurance fraud. It was there, by

the way, that Nack and I found out that Burns had been unaware he had

been given a chilling nickname, "The Sandman," in the corridors of the

show-horse circuit where he did most of his work, and whispers followed

him like little clouds of shed-row dust.

As one prominent West Virginia horsewoman told me, "When Tommy arrived

at a show, they would say The Sandman was around. They knew a horse

would be put to sleep."

"You had no idea they called you The Sandman?" Nack asked Burns at the

Burger King.

"No idea," he said.

"It suits you, Tommy," Nack said.

He nodded.

This was near the beginning of what turned out to be one of the eeriest

interviews I'd ever been a part of, and Nack one day agreed that it sure

beat anything he'd ever worked on with me over the years at SI, from the

Mike Tyson rape trial in Indianapolis to that 2003 story about why

Thoroughbred racehorses were breaking down at such an alarming rate -- a

story that spotted a trend that has grown increasingly relevant in the

era of Barbaro and Eight Belles.

What made the Burger King interview with Tommy so memorable was the fact

that Burns looked like anything but a killer. He might have been the

third-base coach on a Little League team, wearing his hat backward, with

a pleasant, easygoing personality and a smile that shined with

innocence. He appeared enormously contrite as he sat in front of us, so

sorry that he already had killed some 50 horses in his life, so sorry

that he'd ever become a serial killer of horses -- Doctor Death with an

athletic satchel, The Sandman with his bag of deadly wires.

I had spoken to Tommy before, in private, but this was the first time

Nack had ever heard the name James Druck, the first time he'd ever heard

of Lisa Druck, the first time he'd ever talked to a guy who killed

horses for a living.

"So can we go over it for Bill?" I asked. "How did it all start with the


Burns spoke quietly, dispassionately, about his work. He told us about

the time he had been hired to kill another horse in Florida, a

sporty-looking chestnut jumper named Streetwise, by breaking its hind

leg with a crowbar, but that he then got so unnerved by the prospect of

killing a horse in that way -- by causing a bone-crushing injury that

would force a vet to put him down with a lethal injection -- that he got

drunk on gin and tonics in a Gainesville, Fla., bar, gurgling in his

cups to an associate, Harlow Arlie, "I don't want to break his leg. I'm

not into that."

So Arlie did it for him -- for half of the $5,000 hit fee -- as The

Sandman held the horse in a rain-slick, brightly lighted parking lot

outside the city. Arlie came up behind him and whacked the horse hard on

the back leg. After hearing Tommy tell that story, Nack says, he can

still see the picture of that scene in his mind today -- the horse

falling down and clambering to his feet, trying to run and limping away,

the rain coming down and the horse slipping off into the dark.

No, Tommy said, he really hated destroying a horse that way.

What he much preferred, he said, was electrocution. It was Lisa's father

who taught him how to do that. James Druck owned Eagle Crest Farm, in

the celebrated Thoroughbred horse-breeding area of Ocala, and he was a

horseman (so-called) and a lawyer who specialized in equine insurance


Henry the Hawk was a terrific jumper for whom Druck had paid $150,000

two years before. Lisa Druck owned the horse, and she had competed on

his back in shows all over Florida. When Jim Druck got strapped for

cash, he tried to sell the horse; but the top offer was only $125,000

and the horse was insured for $150,000. You do the math; Druck did. So

he talked Burns into killing the horse and showed him how to do it,

revealing himself to be a man of some experience in this venal backwash

of animal husbandry. Druck then bought Burns all the paraphernalia he

needed, from the clips to wires.

He taught Burns how to rig the wires: how to cut a high-powered orange

extension cord down the middle into two separate strands of wire; how to

attach two alligator clips to the bare ends of the wires; and even how

to clip the jerry-built apparatus to the unsuspecting animal -- one clip

to an ear, the second to its rectum. All that was left to do, Tommy told

us, was plug the wire into a standard wall socket and keep back.

"You better get out of the way," Burns told us. "They go down

immediately. One horse dropped so fast in the stall, he must have broken

his neck when he hit the floor. It's a sick thing, I know, but it was

quick and it was painless. They didn't suffer."

Death by such a means leaves no visible trace, and insurance companies

in those days attributed most of these deaths to colic.

After Burns finished his work with Henry the Hawk, he packed up his

wires in the satchel and left the barn. From the pickup, Lisa and her

boyfriend saw Burns stealing away and chased after him, but The Sandman

managed to escape. When the two returned to the barn, they found Henry

lying dead in his stall. Lisa confronted her father about the killing of

Henry, and he never denied orchestrating the grisly affair for the

money. McInerney related this episode from Lisa's -- err, Alison Poole's

-- life, in his roman ࠣlef.

When Burns spilled all the bitter and refried beans about his life as a

horse killer -- he squealed on his greedy clients only after he was

caught and they refused to help defend him -- it simply grew and grew

into the biggest scandal in the history of equestrian sports, for many

of the outlaws were prominent names on the highly competitive Grand Prix

show-jumping circuit and in the clubby world around it.

I knew that James Druck had died of lung cancer in 1990, eight years

after he had Tommy Burns kill Henry the Hawk, and I knew that Burns had

done six months of hard time in a nasty county jail. (My wife and I

visited him.) I also know that Burns has since become a model citizen,

has done well in the auto-parts business, owns a horse farm only a mile

from the barn where he killed his first horse and spends a lot of time

on his 38-foot powerboat, skimming the waterways with that unpleasant

past receding behind him. I'd often wondered what happened to Lisa Druck.

I was a lawyer before I went straight and became an investigative

journalist, but there was one thing my law practice did teach me. Not to

sound judgmental, but where some people go, trouble seems to follow, and

in wrapping his arms around Lisa Druck, John Edwards found more than his


Lester Munson, a Chicago lawyer and journalist who reports on

investigative and legal issues in the sports industry, is a senior

writer for William Nack was a senior writer at Sports

Illustrated for nearly 25 years and covered stories in a variety of

sports and on a range of subjects.


Posted by: Friesians2 | August 15, 2008 1:48 PM

Yo ninaK, are you ok. Screaming don't make people listen. Truth and facts allow people to listen. You offer no facts and no truth. Remember this sweetie...just because you read it on the internet or on a blog, doesn't make it fact or truth. Just a little food for that thoughtless head:)

Posted by: carolinanc2002 | August 15, 2008 1:49 PM

It's time for the American people to agree on a job description for the office of PRESIDENT with specific standards expected.
What a waste of vote and money backing liars and deceivers.

Posted by: maureen | August 15, 2008 1:58 PM

Well at least this article prove's that Mr. Edwards was spending less on companionship then the EX-governor of New York.

Posted by: Frank W | August 15, 2008 2:05 PM

I still believe in the policies John Edwards campaigned on but I have never been so deeply disappointed in a candidate. I hope none of the contributions I made to One America went to this woman.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2008 2:07 PM

Derek, do you really believe what you wrote - that the mystery has been solved?

Are you that challenged? Or do you hope your readers are?

Posted by: Mark | August 15, 2008 2:16 PM

It's a sad day when the most liberal newspaper in the country is taking its cues from the most untruthful one..

Just because the NYT or the WP prints this hogwash doesn't mean it's true. And everyone knows it's not. Thank god we've got a real investigative reporting agency, The National Enquirer, on the job.

Posted by: Darwin_rules | August 15, 2008 2:23 PM

Solved? Holmes you are not. Not even close.

Posted by: JC | August 15, 2008 2:28 PM

Candidates measure up (or not) on a variety of metrics. For me, Edwards (and Bill Clinton before him) stood tall on social issues and short on moral standing. It's heart-wrenching to realize that an otherwise perhaps excellent candidate carries such a fatal (for me) flaw.

At the end of the day, though, I think I'd prefer to have the "banging your videographer" level of moral issues than the "stealing billions of dollars through Halliburton" level of moral issues.

Too bad that sometimes those seem like the only choices, because the American voter doesn't like boring candidates...

Posted by: DisFisCon | August 15, 2008 2:30 PM

Hey, Mark...the baby's new name is William Jefferson Edwards!

Posted by: Mr Brooks | August 15, 2008 2:31 PM

When is Woodward going to work for the National Enquirer? (I doubt they would have him.) Is the Post going to hire the Enquirer's staff to do some real investigative reporting?

Posted by: Darwin_rules | August 15, 2008 2:32 PM

Nina dear girl, , what John McCain did or didn't do 30 years ago, already covered in the news is not an issue today. Under the assumption that he, like a lot of people, has learned and grown from the experience. As opposed to an affair that is happening currently or the near past by someone who should have learned from the experience of others in the public eye. And who was running for POTUS at the time knowing full well that if the affair came out he'd be political toast. This isn't about morality, this is about character and political acumen.

As far as money goes, when was the last time a po' boy ran for POTUS? I have $250 shoes; does that make me twice as qualified as McCain to run for POTUS?

Posted by: Stick | August 15, 2008 2:35 PM

The Washington Post rehashes AP and NYT material concerning Edward's mistress and concludes as part of their "washington post investigations" that the AP and NYT "might have solved" a "mystery". Priceless!!!
Does Derek Kravitz write for The Onion in his spare time?

Posted by: Jethro Bodine | August 15, 2008 2:37 PM

I'm so disappointed in John Edwards. To think I almost voted for this unfaithful ass. My sympathy goes to his children and his wife. I understand why she is staying with such a scumbag. Unfortunately he will never know just how lucky he is to have her and his kids staying with him.

Posted by: Erin | August 15, 2008 2:40 PM

You mean this isn't the Onion? Jethro, thanks for pointing that out. And here I was thinking that this was all a joke.

Woodward, come on, don't read the scribblings of interns before you let them shove it out on the web?

Posted by: Darwin_rules | August 15, 2008 2:42 PM

What's wrong with America? Now, were the repressed granny nation?

Puritanism continues to ruin brilliant, passionate leaders, whose personal life should be no one's business.

People who judge them are simply either hypocrites or jealous.

Posted by: Hifi | August 15, 2008 2:49 PM

Perhaps, Darwin_rules, our computers have been taken over by hackers and we have unknowingly been redirected to The Onion fake Washington Post page!

Posted by: Jethro Bodine | August 15, 2008 2:50 PM

Atten:Bob Woodward: Re: Your column of 08-15-08 on J. Edwards>
Too bad John couldn't be as pure and honest as the rest of us, Or maybe he is.
Sincerely: K.S.

Posted by: Kenneth B. Smith, P.E. | August 15, 2008 2:50 PM

Seems that a prerequisite to running for president is committing adultery and being a liar. The United States deserves better.

Posted by: Ruthie, almost 81 | August 15, 2008 2:53 PM

Atten:Bob Woodward: Re: Your column of 08-15-08 on J. Edwards>
Too bad John couldn't be as pure and honest as the rest of us, Or maybe he is.
Sincerely: K.S.

Posted by: Kenneth B. Smith, P.E. | August 15, 2008 2:53 PM

we need a parliamentary form of government

Posted by: chiefshamus | August 15, 2008 2:56 PM

I found the horse story more fascinating than the WaPo investigation story since I had heard parts of it before it became public told by a friend of ours who was on the race horse circuit. I was glad to hear the whole story after all these years.
That said the lyin, cheatin, sneakin, self indulgin,pretentious,irresponsible son of a hard working mill worker (whose son claims to have moved a few steps up from his father)was not fit to be President of the US. Sounds like the Breck girl and his Dreck girl belong together. Such delicious Karma.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2008 3:00 PM

How do we know that this really was an affair and not a case of Edwards having permission from his wife, Elizebeth, to see this other woman? Maybe they have a relationship beyond the typical monogamous one that society prescribes to everyone. Maybe with her cancer she willingly endorsed his seeing another woman to take care of things, emotional and physical, that she couldn't.

In cases like this the public will more easily understand the "affair" principal more than they will the "open relationship" principal. Affairs are easy for the public to wrap their mind around since overall 50% of all couples have at least one cheating member, and cheating seems to be socially acceptable. But open relationships are not, and are not as easily accepted.

So I wouldn't be pointing fingers too much. There may be more to this story than meets the eye.

Posted by: Lucious Scribbens | August 15, 2008 3:01 PM

Photo with John Edwards, Elizabeth Edwards, Rielle Hunter, Edwards children taken 12/30/2006 here:

But John said on Nightline that that affair ended and he told all to Elizabeth in 2006.

Big surprise here that John Edwards has been lying all along about the affair, the baby, and most importantly, the campaign money. Who will be surprised when we learn that Edwards violated Federal election law in his attempted cover-up?

Posted by: Explained | August 15, 2008 3:01 PM

It would be wise to judge each politician on their own merit- with respect to where they were at the time of any offense. Politicians are, by nature, egotistical and self-absorbed. They, like celebrities, are made to feel invincible because of the constant ego stroking done by the people who work for them. No one wants to lose a job, so they will say whatever their boss needs to hear. To drag all politicians into the Edwards affair by citing any infractions on their personal records is ridiculous. This isn't an "oh yeah, what about YOUR guy?" discussion. This is about a man who cheated on a dying wife when he could have been spending time with his small children becoming MORE of a part of their lives rather than less. It seems obvious to me that he would have (and still might) moved Rielle and his child into his life after the death of his wife. That would explain why he continued to visit Rielle. But it is of no importance other than the campaign fraud. Edwards's career as a politician is dead. Now he can go back to being a professional liar in his chosen vocation.

Posted by: Marianna | August 15, 2008 3:02 PM

Cheater’s Rap

John Edwards talked about Dad's mill,
While sleeping with a chick off the pill,
He lied and fibbed to the MS press,
And, awoke early to preen and dress.

His wife, Elizabeth, knew the lie in 2006,
But supported John in Iowa while sick,
They stole Hillary's honest votes daily,
And laughed on cue, and hiding Rielle.

Why did John lie like a cheatin' rat ?
No "New Deal" for the average Democrat,
While Obama and Hillary fought on the stump,
John Edwards watched Rielle grow a bump.

Now John's love child is common news,
And Fred Baron has money to lose,
Rielle, now nursing, has jetted away,
Even Geraldo has joined the fray!

John's affair has hurt his poor kids,
More than Clinton's cigars ever did,
A sordid tale that some call a crock,
The only winner, a loser named Barack!

Like dogs in heat, Edwards did pant,
Defined forever, just like Hugh Grant,
Tabloids paid to get the sleaze,
Is it John's baby, mister please?

See Barack in Hawaii like Bobby Vinton,
Unaware the DNC plans to elect a Clinton,
Edwards may face time from the tax man,
But not if a pardon is part of Obama's plan.

While Elizabeth cries over her brood,
Baby mama with John was not a prude,
Gone the innocent days of Tom Sawyer,
John gettin' love like a real trial lawyer.

Posted by: rose | August 15, 2008 3:05 PM

So now it's Puritanical to think that a guy who wants to be the most powerful person in the world should tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Oh yeah, don't forget be faithful to his dying wife and children? Wow. Guess you better include me and probably a 100 million other people (including Mrs. Edwards) in that category. This millworker's son says Edwards is pond-scum, and I'm sure his and my millworker father would have given him a good belt-whipping for his despicable behavior. He sorely needs one.

Posted by: Darwin_rules | August 15, 2008 3:06 PM

I'm from the south and all my life I've been told how southerners are all dumb, naive and gullible.

In the 2004 election Johnny Edwards failed to carry his own state.

Oh yeah, North Carolinians elected him to the Senate. But Tar Heels embrace the old adage " Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Johnny Edwards has been a practicing fraud for many years. His wife has been a willing accomplice. As BO's minister so aptly put, "The chickens have come home to roost."

Posted by: Mr. Willie Loman | August 15, 2008 3:16 PM

Unfortunately you can't believe most of the media reports on Edwards who were covering for him in the first place.

Posted by: Mike | August 15, 2008 3:17 PM

At first, I thought Hunter was just a big hypocrite about being all about the truth etc.

The more I learn, the more it seems like Edwards was totally played.

What about this? What if everything Hunter did was a deliberate attempt to try to bring down a big lying schmuck? (I don't know if he in fact has a history of being a big lying schmuck, but maybe someone thinks he is--maybe another politician or a big company he skewered in a class action suit? Hmmm? Must have a few enemies skulking around from those days.)

Hunter didn't seem to have a pile of money when she met Edwards--so just what would justify her attendance at the hotel where she met Edwards? Who paid the bills to enable that initial encounter? Maybe it was not fate that led to that first encounter.

It seems very unlikely that Edwards would really fall for a true flake. Come on: Wasn't he a "brilliant" lawyer? I am sure he has seen it all in terms of lying, cheating, stealing and acting. Maybe Hunter is not so flaky after all? Maybe "flakiness" is her beard. Maybe she called Edwards just right, is herself a brilliant actress, and intentionally went after him hoping to make an example of a spectacular implosion.

If this is true, I kind of gotta admire that someone could out sleaze a consummate sleaze.

If there hasn't been a Hollywood movie on this kind of grand deception, there will be. Screen play by Rielle Hunter.

Posted by: beth | August 15, 2008 3:18 PM

Angry liberal kooks...Where are you now??
I guess Liz Edwards's attacks on Ann
Coulter for "disrespecting her children"
were kind of misdirected. Hey Liz, you might want to thank Ann for trying to
open your eyes about Johnny-Boy. But
alas, you've probably known what hubby
was about for a long time. Why rock the
boat when the hull is bursting at the
seams with ca$h??

Posted by: Hypocrite Edwards | August 15, 2008 3:19 PM

NinaK, what a rant. Maybe you should write a book about McCain like the one that was just written about Obama. I'm sure you have as many facts.
Now, the article was actually about Edwards, and I don't believe a word of this explanation.

Posted by: Tracey | August 15, 2008 3:20 PM

Whoa Nelly, that's some story you gave us here as a freebie. You probably could sell that you know. I still feel badly for Elizabeth and that wee baby girl but somehow I'm not feeling all that sorry for the candidate. Just glad I didn't send him any money. I think there was a sentiment that for him to run might be stressful for Elizabeth and might heighten the demands in his life but who knew he'd had time to destroy himself recreationally with this pseudo-spiritual predatory bloodsucker, or rather, money sucker.

Posted by: Gaias Child | August 15, 2008 3:24 PM

Amazing what's become of this country.
Yup, the Country & Economy are falling to pieces; we're at war on two fronts; the dollar is worth nothing; Oil Prices are rather high; we have a sociopath as Pres & VP; we have a Media that seems to be allergic to News, etc, etc... and, this is what people are wasting thought processes on.
Of course, that President Bush may have lied us into war, or has politicized the Justice Dept, etc... nah, that doesn't deserve any investigation.
But, John Edwards... mystery solved.
Me, I'd prefer if people were interested in the Mystery of $9+ Billion, that just disappeared in Iraq... but, that's ignored.
Amazing what's happened to the mentality of this Nation...

Posted by: jon | August 15, 2008 3:25 PM

I think while the press keeps digging into this everybody is forgetting that there is a dying woman (his wife) and their two small children to consider. Elizabeth herself said she chose to keep this quiet because her children will soon be without their mother so she wanted to retain their father's image. HER CHOICE in a terribly devastating and ugly situation. Digging up all the details of this story and reporting all the sordid, ugly details of a man who obviously got a little full of himself and chose sex over family does nothing for us affects nothing and changes nothing except to ensure he won't be on the democratic ticket. In truth the people being most affected by this whole mess are the 3 innocent members of his family and they don't deserve this for the sake of ratings. I think its time for the press and the people to get over it and let a dying woman and their children enjoy what time they have left together. Had it come out while he was running for pres. or vp it would be a different story but it didn't and maybe we should all just leave it alone now. I think Elizabeth would probably rather be spending her last days filling her kids heads with happy memories rather than trying to explain to them that their father is jerk who couldn't keep it in his pants.

Posted by: Sha | August 15, 2008 3:32 PM

Let's see ... What's worse:

A president (or candidate) that has sex with another woman behind his wife's back, but who promotes social and economical agendas that are good for the county.


A president who deliberately lies sending nearly five thousand American's to their death, and promotes social and economical agendas that are not only bad for the country but also highly divisive.


Posted by: OliveStreet | August 15, 2008 3:37 PM

And for those of you who are heartless enough to be angry about Elizabeth "aiding and abetting" the lie. GET OVER YOURSELVES. Excuse her for thinking of her family and her children over you. She's dying I think she's probably a little more concerned about her kids than you and so she should be. I think we could cut her a little slack. They may be in politics but they're still people.

Posted by: Sha | August 15, 2008 3:43 PM

You wrote...

"The subject of the $14,000 payment has been a particularly murky one as the Edwards affair has unfolded in the press. Edwards's OneAmerica political action committee is governed by U.S. election laws. If Edwards had directed money for personal use, it would have constituted a criminal violation of federal law."

Actually laws governing Leadership PACs would allow Edwards to use the money for personal use. If you don’t believe me – check with the FEC.

Unlike campaign accounts is no regulation or law preventing federal candidates from spending funds in their Leadership PAC accounts for personal expenses. They are legally free to spend this money on anything - including their mistresses or even their mortgage.

Some campaign finance reform advocates argue that sitting members of congress would be barred from using leadership PAC cash for personal expenses by congressional ethics rules. Of course, Edwards was not in the Senate in 2006. And in any case the language in both the House and Senate ethics rules about Leadership PACs leaves ample wiggle room for any member of Congress contemplating similar shenanigans.

The widespread abuse of leadership PAC cash largely unappreciated and underreported.

In a series for the public radio show Marketplace I reported that since 2000 leadership PACs like OneAmerica have raised more than 400 million dollars and given just one third of that cash to political campaigns.

The lion’s share of the money collected by these PACs - more than 250 million dollars was spent on other things - including consultants, baby sitting bills, bar tabs, ands trips to some of the most expensive resorts in the US. And none of those expenses broke a single law.

Posted by: Steve Henn | August 15, 2008 3:44 PM

A joke... what a.

Does anyone believe any of this?

Are reporters that afraid or stupid?

Afraid of what?.. the power structure, their boss - oh.. losing their job!

A sad day for America, but it's been a long time since the Press truly uncovered anything. Why isn't this guy in jail? Why aren't most politicians in jail? What are we, joe public, afraid of? Why don't we DEMAND accountability, not just sheepishly ask for it?

Believe me, it all boils down to money. Those that are in a position to do something, to speak up, don't want to lose their privilege (is this Communist Russia or China); is this what George Orwell's Animal Farm was warning us about (of course, the corruption in America, including of the 'Free Press', is nothing new). I tell my son there are no journalists today, nor are there any Statesman either. Colin Powell had a shot at that title, but wimped out (he could have stopped the Iraq 'war' but didn't have the guts); "have you no shame" would have done it, as it did 50 years ago toppling McCarthy - but today, very few have a conscious so maybe Colin knew his words would ring empty.

Posted by: paul of palo alto | August 15, 2008 3:44 PM

Calling this women a videographer is a farce and she gets paid 100,000 grand. Something really stinks here.

Posted by: Mike | August 15, 2008 3:51 PM

Yeah, unethical behavior. He deceived some people.
And McCain -- cheating on his disabled wife.
Two birds of a feather.

What does this have to do with Obama? Nothing.

Posted by: Charles | August 15, 2008 3:54 PM

Edwards is a useless piece of crap with no morals and lying all the way. Good he got caught. You Missy Edwards also have to think long and hard why you are sticking around with such a Fake husband. Are you that desparates? Move on.

Posted by: Mike Spontek | August 15, 2008 3:58 PM

Definitely looks like Edwards, yes, Edwards was having sex with his daughter the 22 year old bimbo of the guy who taught Tommy Burns how to and a very few of his campaign folks were talking sotto voce to lawyers to cover his unzipped fly sudden bolt of electrical current. It also looks like one of two things was happening....either Mr. Baron and his $100+ million trusted buddies were paying Hunter off to stay quiet or else she was blackmailing leader of the country Edwards the unzipped fly. Edwards did an exceptionally sudden bolt of electrical current by simultaneously having an affair with Hunter talking sotto voce to lawyers and announcing his candidacy for the 22 year old bimbo presidency and following up with HIS OWN unzipped fly!! Campaigning, nobody here but us chickens. All the while nobody here but us chickens deceiving his supporters and the majority of his stupid and unethical and stupid campaign advisers. Can a person be?? He is not alone. McCain has his own history of gross unethical grossness by his 22 year old bimbo while still married to Carol talking sotto voce to lawyers after his return from the White House therefore, he should be scrotumized and condemned for His Jesus actions as well. It all comes down to: good character, trustworthiness, bimbos, moral ethics, leather-wrapped handcuffs, integrity, honesty, family values, pink feather G-strings, and good judgment as the Mccain and Edwards presidential team. Failed America! 22 year old bimbos miserably sit on their important areas. And condemned while mccain is allowed to continue riding his hobby horse and outragious lies about his opponent without the scrutiny and condemnation of the media and the american people!! just how FAIR is this?? Nobody here but us chickens! McCain was involved in MULTIPLE beers s finally settling on and shackling his 22 year old bimbo with leather wrapped handcuffs around her pink feather G-string to get his rear into politics. McCain has NEVER done Grandpa! Talking sotto voce to lawyers shot through me like a sudden bolt of electrical current!. The Rich Daddy Admirals, Daddy Admirals are behind this!

Posted by: Revelations in Punxatawney | August 15, 2008 4:01 PM

Why are you wasting time on this when you could be avidly pursuing the story behind Ron Suskind's new book "The Way of the World"? It is of infinitely greater importance to the nation and the world, than another sex scandal don't you think?

Posted by: light heals | August 15, 2008 4:03 PM

How is this less murky? They're still paying her for a job she was hired for, apparently because she was his mistress at the time, right? She certainly was not qualified and had no experience when she was hired, so she wasn't hired for her talent. You know as well as I do, you would not accept this statement had a Republican said it.

Posted by: JeffS | August 15, 2008 4:06 PM

This has really creeped me out; the story about those poor' is is the bimbo he ran with...oh Lord, I thought we were through with this unbelievable lack of integrity...when Clinton left office...although he too, is lurking someplace...angling, just like the rest of them........where is Jackie Kennedy when you need her??? Now that was CLASS. oh yes......Post...why don't you try to report the know..the truth..and stop trying to mold peoples' minds....the printed page is not as powerful as it used to be...people are wise now..don't you get it?????

Posted by: anon; | August 15, 2008 4:12 PM

You expect the American people to buy the story of the late payment! Did you forget the part, that Hunter was not qualified for the position in the first place. A lot of women would desire a salary without experience. However, her experience was bedroom experience, and building the ego of Edwards; seems a re-make of the fat Jewsee princess with Bill Clinton except a couple of minor details. The contributors should be furious. Can't wait to see if other women come out of the closet!

Posted by: Mim | August 15, 2008 4:16 PM

Please, some journalist needs to nail this SOB. He makes all disreputable trial lawyers turned politicians look even worse than they actually are.

Posted by: HVJ | August 15, 2008 4:18 PM

Andrew Young the admitted father of the John Edwards story: The arrests for worthless checks, DWI, burglary, criminal mischief, the federal tax lien

Posted by: Robert Lewis | August 15, 2008 5:10 PM

There you go again, throwing dirt at a girl just because she finds it worthwhile to charge for sex, which isn´t inconstitutional, as long as the john obtains pleasure for a change.

Posted by: samurai3 | August 15, 2008 5:26 PM

NinaK, you're a complete idiot! Did McCain's daddy fly him through flight school? Did his daddy suffer for him in North VietNam? YOUR IGNORANCE IS APPALLING!

Posted by: SGK | August 15, 2008 5:46 PM

sex, lies, and webisode tape

Posted by: eric | August 15, 2008 6:03 PM

(sigh) Another phony lying Democrat acting like Mr. High Idealism who's caught with his "weidho". Why do they pretend to be so idealistic?

It's so disingenuous and cynical.

Does anyone think it's not his kid?

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 15, 2008 7:34 PM

I knew this guy was a phony when he said that if he was elected that Christopher Reeves would walk again. I guess he came up with that idea during his trial lawyer days.

Posted by: Jeff | August 15, 2008 7:42 PM

Was this story approved for release by

Nancy Pelosi
the Obama campaign
the Huffington Post
DailyKos, and

Before the Washington Post "investigated" it?

If not, heads will roll!

Posted by: AsperGirl | August 15, 2008 7:58 PM

So weird and yet so entertaining

Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2008 8:03 PM

I'm sorry, but this Hunter/Dreck person is much worse than Lewinski. Deliberately pursuing a man whose wife has cancer is unspeakably low. And then to try and justify yourself using asinine new age garbage..Please! At least Lewinski and Sptizer's partners were a little more honest about themselves.

Posted by: where is Lorena Bobbit when we need her? | August 15, 2008 8:05 PM

I'm sorry, but kids...this countrys' going down the terlet..................peace

Posted by: anon | August 15, 2008 8:20 PM

Wait a minute!

I married with a disabled, decorated Viet Nam veteran and only got a lousy $234.00 a month for the support of two children!

I'm suddenly feeling so patriotic!

I should have hung around Democratic Headquarters a little bit longer. Maybe I could have found a wealthy benefactor/lawyer to send me $14,000 a month.

One can dream, can't one?

Posted by: Bloomfielder | August 15, 2008 9:00 PM

Let's say that in America there is a cult of exalted men with the President of the US being the alpha exalted power male and potential presidents just under him in the hierarchy and just above male movie stars. Nothing is too good for these guys. We worship at their feet with the media drooling the most. We give them superhuman power and rights and privileges with one being the right to harass, molest, "date" and award young women with fact we think they deserve these special rights because they are our alpha males and we want to serve them in any way possible. Sick, yes, but unfortunately true.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2008 9:41 PM

If you call "Wolf!", too many times to your audience, when there is no wolf, who will be there when you NEED to be heard?

Posted by: M | August 15, 2008 10:01 PM

until i started reading comments, i assumed the 'might have been solved' was sarcasm.

wasn't it?

Posted by: moonscape | August 15, 2008 11:28 PM

What a laugh! All you insane liberals (yes liberal, use the real word that characterizes you, not your self made-up "progressive" moniker)try to justify Edward's acts by comparing him to Bush or other Republicans. First, this so-called investigative article is about Edwards, not Bush. Second, listen to your pathetic arguments to support Edwards - well, Bush is doing much worse than him, he's sending troops to be killed in an illegal war, blah, blah, blah. Well, I hope you buy that same argument if your husband or wife is ever caught cheating - well honey, I only cheated on you once, but our neighbor's husband has been cheating on his wife for years. Or, yes honey, I cheated on you once, but Bush is sending troops to die in an illegal war so you have to look the other way, his actions are much worse than mine. Yes, that is a good argument, your spouse should forgiven for his or her comparatively trivial misstep. Trying to justify the adulterous actions of a holier-than-thou politician and his attempts to cover them up with more lies by comparing those actions to someone else's is a child's tactic. This is not a winner-take-all contest you idiots.

Posted by: Jason | August 15, 2008 11:43 PM

John Swinton, a preeminent New York journalist, was the guest of honour at a banquet given him by the leaders of his craft. A person who didn't know much about the press or Swinton offered a toast to the independent press. Swinton outraged his colleagues by replying:

There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.

There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.

The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?

We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.

* -- John Swinton (the former head of the New York Times editorial staff, 1860)

Posted by: vaporland | August 16, 2008 6:26 PM

Does anybody else wonder what might have been on those 100 hours of videotape? Was it perhaps a candid Webisode of John Boy romping with his Chlamydia Queen?

Posted by: Hylas | August 16, 2008 9:02 PM

John Edwards, the Hugh Grant of our time. Quite a burden for his children to carry for the rest of their lives. What a smart trial lawyer we have got here!! A real winner!! NOT! John Edwards is so stupid he thought rubbers were worn on his toes; no wonder his torpedoes sank her ship!! Ha, ha ! I am just reveling in his misery!!!! What a putz old John Boy is! Bet some doctors around this country are having parties every night since the great satan of trial lawyering has sank his own canoe!!!! Ha, ha, ha! And Obama, the great intellect of our time, fell for Edwards's sweet, smooth lawyerly tripe hook, line, and sinker!!! Obama even wanted that big fat, cheatin' liar to be his Vice-President!!! What a big pair of dopes that two morons make!!! Ha, ha, ha!!!!!

Posted by: Mark | August 18, 2008 4:46 PM

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