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Fallout From the Edwards Affair

POSTED: 02:57 PM ET, 08/11/2008 by Derek Kravitz

Fallout from former Sen. John Edwards's (D-N.C.) admission that he had an affair with a campaign videographer while his wife, Elizabeth Edwards, was in remission from cancer continues to play out in the press.

A sampling of the follow-up stories about the affair and Edwards's future:

-- Edwards told ABC News' Bob Woodruff last week that he and Rielle Hunter began their affair only after Hunter was hired by the campaign to produce a series of videos for the Internet, when she began traveling with him.

"She was hired to come in and produce films and that's the reason she was hired," Edwards said.

But that version of events is now being challenged by a one-time close friend of Hunter's, Pidgeon O'Brien.

"The affair began long, long, long before she was hired to work for the campaign almost half a year before she was hired to work on those videos," O'Brien said in an exclusive interview with ABC News.

O'Brien says Hunter told her that in late February or early March 2006 she met an "amazing" man from North Carolina named John at a New York City hotel bar. She referred to her new man as 'Love Lips,' whom she said was married with small children and a wife who had been ill.

-- Newsweek's Jonathan Darman described some of his meetings with Hunter, including one comment she made in 2006 about Elizabeth Edwards:

"I've only met her once," Hunter said. "She does not give off good energy. She didn't make eye contact with me."

-- The Post's Howard Kurtz noted that "even as some national news organizations tried half-heartedly to confirm the tawdry tale, they ignored it in public -- wary of the National Enquirer, of Edwards's dismissal of 'tabloid trash,' of wading once again into the swamp of sexual scandal without definitive proof."

Kurtz noted that The Post and most other mainstream news outlets failed to report the story, leaving the heavy lifting to newspapers like the Charlotte Observer, North Carolina's largest newspaper, which disclosed that Hunter's baby's birth certificate listed no father.

-- Dallas lawyer Fred Baron, who helped bankroll the former North Carolina senator's presidential run, told Dallas Morning News reporter Gromer Jeffers Jr. that he paid Hunter to leave Chapel Hill, N.C., because she was being hounded by tabloids.

"I made a decision on my own, without talking to Edwards or anybody, to try to help them move to a community to try to get away from those folks," Baron said.

-- Novelist Jay McInerney told The New York Post's "Page Six" that he dated Hunter for a few months in the late 1980s and based his book "Story of My Life" on her.

Hunter was known as Lisa Druck when McInerney met her. "She's a nice girl," the author told The Post. "She used to be a real party girl."

-- For now, Salem State College officials say they expect the school's Sept. 23 "conversation with John and Elizabeth Edwards" to go forward, but they are consulting with the corporate sponsors who helped pay the couple's undisclosed speaking fee to ensure they will still make an appearance, The Boston Globe's Scott Allen and Jonnelle Marte report.

"We don't want to get into moral issues at this point," college spokesman Jim Glynn told The Globe. "We are bringing them here to talk about the election and to talk about Elizabeth's battle with cancer, and that, to us, was more than enough to captivate an audience."

By Derek Kravitz |  August 11, 2008; 2:57 PM ET
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Big surprise. Another “slick wily” democrat lawyer cheating on his wife and lying to the American public.

Makes you wonder about the slick democrat lawyer running for office… All talk - inappropriate actions

Posted by: Eric78 | August 11, 2008 4:43 PM

five dollar haircut, five cent brain - that's what the oldtimers called a guy like this.

Posted by: philip walsh | August 11, 2008 4:45 PM

"Love Lips" Hahahahahahaa!

Hey isn't that what McCain did to his wife?, wasn't she standing by him when he was at the Hanoi hilton?, then when he returned to find her disfigured he started cheating on her?

Posted by: JR | August 11, 2008 4:46 PM

Yeah stuff like this never happens with Republicans. Though they do seem to have a soft spot for the little boys.

Posted by: ST | August 11, 2008 4:46 PM

"Makes you wonder about the slick democrat lawyer running for office… All talk - inappropriate actions "

But that is exactly what John McCain did to his wife.

Posted by: Pete | August 11, 2008 4:50 PM

There's something so wrong with this country ... It's an incredibly big deal that Democrat cheated on his wife, but it's not that important that illiterate lied to get this country into war and because of that, over 4,000 good Americans have died and countless innocent Iraqis.

He cheated. She can divorce him. Feelings are deeply hurt, but life will go on. What about Pat Tillman? How does life go on for him and his parents?

Our sense of priorities are so skewed that I'm embarrassed about the collective actions of this country.

Posted by: Just me | August 11, 2008 4:51 PM

Pidgeon O'Brien described the senator and this mistress to have begun their affair "long, long, long before she was hired to work for the Edwards campaign". "at least six months". I've known one of my best friends, Marsha, a long, long, long time. We met in kindergarten and I am now 48. That's a long, long, long time. As for Ms. Hunter stating that Mrs. Edwards did not look her in the eye, it just speaks to her audaciousness that she would dare look this woman in her eye, knowing that she was sleeping with this cancer fighter's husband. I do not think anyone is at all shocked by this.Mrs. Edwards has been given another wound to heal. Sad, sad, sad.

Posted by: Greta Stewart | August 11, 2008 4:51 PM

Another new member to the polical sex club-
so what else is new

Posted by: RJC | August 11, 2008 4:52 PM

Hey Eric78, I agree, any politician that would cheat on his wife, especially when she is ill or injured should not run for the office of the presidency.

So John McCain won't get your vote now?

Posted by: JR | August 11, 2008 4:52 PM

Democratic presidents and candidates have long enjoyed a pass from mainstream media when it comes to affairs--JFK, Clinton and now Edwards, to hit some high spots.

You can call the NE a tabloid, and criticize its sensationalism, but there's minimal difference between that publication and those we perceive as mainstream.

The person who should be most annoyed over this is Sen. Clinton. Edwards basically cost her the nomination, in my opinion, and he knew his titillations would come to light eventually. If he didn't know, he's either more narcissistic than I perceive or he's just plain stupid and/or arrogant.

Funny thing is Dems don't bow out when they're caught. Repubs take to the hills over the tawdry innuendo. Barney Frank comes to mind--a success story despite harboring (perhaps unknowingly) a lover who ran a prostitution ring, etc.

Kay B. Day
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Posted by: Kay B. Day | August 11, 2008 4:54 PM

Well said Jut me.

Posted by: nd | August 11, 2008 4:55 PM

The Clinton's can whine all they want, but the fact remains that it was BILL'S affair with Monica Lewinsky that caused Al Gore to lose the presidential race in 2000. Considering the consequences, which is worse?

Posted by: MaryMary | August 11, 2008 4:56 PM

What sort of logic are you operating under Eric78? McCain is the only candidate with a record of infidelity. Check the facts before posting.

Posted by: b. in HK | August 11, 2008 4:56 PM

To JUST ME: Consider that in 1998, TWO YEARS BEFORE Bush took office, Clinton, Madeline Albirhgt, Sandy Berger were talking about the WMD's in Iraq!! BUSH inherited what Clinton had not taken on - 5 times we were attacked under Clinton including the FIRST TRADE TOWERS attack which damaged the buildings but did not bring them down. Go to http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp ANd see how wrong YOU are about Bush lying. Get educated before opining.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 4:59 PM

It's a good thing he didn"t win the Nomination! 1/2 of this country is so full of the "Hate Bush" kool-aid, they would vote for this p.o.s.any way!

Posted by: Scotty T | August 11, 2008 5:00 PM

Where do you suppose the votes for Edwards would have gone had Edwards not been a part of the Presidential campaign? Is it possible those votes might have gone to Hillary? How sad for so many people -- his family, the voters who counted on him, etc. All in the name of "narcissistic" behavior.

Posted by: Charcon | August 11, 2008 5:01 PM

Regarding Pidgeon O'Brien's saying that Hunter told her in 2006 about meeting an "amazing" man named John from North Carolina - didn't Hunter recognize John Kerry's 2004 running mate? This is very odd. Is O'Brien believable?

Posted by: BJC | August 11, 2008 5:03 PM

The Monica Lewinsky affair didn't cost Gore the election, unless you mean that he lost it because the Lewinsky affair made him feel he had to distance himself from Clinton.

Bill Clinton was sitting on one of the best approval ratings in history when he left office and he still enjoys wide popularity. If Gore had let Clinton campaign for him more, he might have been better off.

Posted by: Cameron | August 11, 2008 5:06 PM

Dear "just me". You are thinking way too clearly. You must not be a normal American who watches lots of TV. You probably even pick up a book now and then. Very un-American.
And to all the Dem bashers, let's not forget Newt, the king of the Repugs, and the Repugnican-gay-footsie-under-the-bathroom-stall guy, whose anti-gay political stance should make #1 on the hippocrite list.

Posted by: dp | August 11, 2008 5:07 PM

Edwards' adultery is sleazy, but on a level with lying to rook the country into a war? Come on. It's not even on a level with Eliot Spitzer's hiring a call girl (after all, Spitzer was patronizing organized crime.)

Posted by: Starbug | August 11, 2008 5:07 PM

Repubs take to the hills over the tawdry innuendo? Like David Vitter you mean. Oops, no, bad example. You must mean like Newt Gingrich. No, that's not right, he hung on. Oh, perhaps you're talking about Larry Craig. Nope, he didn't take to any hills that I recall.

And that MSM "free pass" for Dems? Well, no one, including Republicans like Dwight Eisenhower, had their well-known affairs dragged about because it simply wasn't done at that time, for right or wrong.

Voting for Pastor in Chief is a relatively new phenomenon, brought about largely by the GOP as part of their Moral Majority cunard. fortunately they've been pierced a few times by their own self-righteous swords. Free pass? A President was impeached for actions that began with his infidelities, for God's sake! That's a free pass? Please, enough with the Republicans as victims meme. It's getting tired.

Posted by: Williams | August 11, 2008 5:07 PM

i couldn't agree more with "just me" people nee to get their priorities together we are going to need them. as long as there is coffee on eath men are going to cheat as well as woment. my issues is this OUR taxes pay their salaries to do their job... i would appreciate it if they did their jobs. and as far as them sleeping around hey as long as they are not looking into my bedroom i really don't care they do in theirs.

Posted by: pookie7a | August 11, 2008 5:08 PM

The affair is not a big deal, it's the fact that he lied about it in an interview last year. If he had manned up about it at the beginning, it, to me, would not have been that big of a deal. Just goes to show how "honest" politicians are.....

jv

Posted by: Johnny | August 11, 2008 5:08 PM

The media should focus on Obama's GAY SEX with Larry Sinclair.

Posted by: Jason | August 11, 2008 5:09 PM

Eric78,
it's not just democrat lawyers who cheat on their wives. Do the names Larry Craig or Newt Gingrich ring a bell, Just to name a few.... and your esteemed presidential candidate married wife number 2 within one month of divorcing number 1. Hmmm. Guess they just fell in love real fast,eh?

Posted by: sheila99 | August 11, 2008 5:09 PM

Will this be the only woman we hear Edwards cheated with??? But then, who cares? Let's get back to the real problems of straightening out American finances.

Posted by: RD | August 11, 2008 5:10 PM

This is not an issue of Democrats vs Republicans. Men are men are men...they almost all do it, given the chance. There are some rare exceptions, but those guys are mostly hospitalized and in comas.

Posted by: No Surprise | August 11, 2008 5:10 PM

Edwards - Obama ticket is still a reality. Both young democrats with chick appeal and a proclivity for lying.

Posted by: Ramone | August 11, 2008 5:10 PM

Dems don't need proof when a republican is charged with infidelity (mccain) but proof isn't enough to charge a dem (edwards). Double speaking idiots.

Posted by: demsareaturnoff | August 11, 2008 5:10 PM

Dear anonymous JUST ME: Read the frikin comment before commenting. This person was comparing the relative importance to the American public of getting the US into a stupid huge war that has made the rest of the world think we have all lost our minds, to a relatively personal issue. In the case of John Edwards who is out of public life for good now, he no longer has any relevance at all. Yet the media goes on and on. GET IT NOW???

Posted by: dp | August 11, 2008 5:10 PM

john edwards is a liar. he is a hypocrite. and he is souless. i love democrats who will defend these characteristics ONLY BECAUSE HE IS A DEMOCRAT. partisan hacks. if you defend lying and cheating and hypocrisy, and don't think there is anything wrong with it - then there is no way anyone is going to change your mind about anything. it's a pointless debate. you either have morals and appreciate morality in others - or you don't. george bush has nothing to do with john edwards' lies and cheating.

we haven't heard the whole of this story yet. like - why the media kept this quiet. like - how edwards couldn't have known about the hush money given to his (hwore) to get her out of town and get her to keep her mouth shut. like - when it really stated - and were campaign contributions spent to subsidize his affair?

john edwards is done. and to all you bleeding heart liberal john edwards fans - all i can say is: ha ha. there are two americas: the moral one and the lying rich cheating one. choose your leaders appropriately as to who best represent you.

Posted by: edwards is a liar | August 11, 2008 5:11 PM

At least the "slick willy" democrats are having sex with women, and not trying to play footsie with other men in bathroom stalls (Congressman Craig) or sending erotic e-mails to teenage boys (Congressman Foley)

Posted by: Cj | August 11, 2008 5:11 PM

George Bush kept our country safe for 8 years. He will be remembered in history as one of our better presidents and for serving on the correct side in this ugly war on terrorism.

Posted by: Phil6 | August 11, 2008 5:11 PM

What a slimeball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: shayla | August 11, 2008 5:12 PM

The real story is the mainstream media's reluctance to cover the story. You can be absolutley sure that if any of the Republican candidates even hinted at doing such a thing it would be all over the press - not that they would have a problem with the moral aspect of it.

Who in the world would vote along with them, Hollywood, Rosie, leftist anti-Americans, militant gays, welfare abusers, abort at any time or reason pro-choicers, AND tax the rich and blow it on worthless government programs to buy votes poiticians?

BTW, if President Bush had done nothing about Iraq and they took control of the OIL SUPPLY with the WMD's Hussien was most certainly attaining the entire list above would be screaming because he DIDN'T do anything about it - like Clinton who let OBL get away when he could have taken him out and the WHOLW mess would have been avoided. Who voted for Clinton? See the list above.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 5:12 PM

What is with these men...there are much hotter chicks out there to bang!!!

Posted by: Tom - California | August 11, 2008 5:13 PM

that's what women are for....

Posted by: Cindy | August 11, 2008 5:14 PM

God gave Moses Ten Commandments. The 6th one is; Thow shalt not commit adultry. Perhaps Bill Clinton, Elliot Spitzer,John Edwards did not honor this Commandment because the commandments can no longer be exhibited on
oublic buildings or taught in public schools?
Or, are moral lapses just inappropriate behaviors?.Do you think there are consequences in our personal and public lives when we do not obey God?

Posted by: Feather | August 11, 2008 5:15 PM

To "Just Me"

In addition to what Anonymous said, you seem to forget that Saddam wasn't allowing UN inspectors into Iraq. IMO, it's reasonable to assume that he had WMD.

I'm sure if the Bush Admin did nothing and Saddam used a WMD, you'd be here talking about how Bush should have attacked Iraq.

Posted by: David | August 11, 2008 5:15 PM

anonymous...you're a republican ass bag...get a life, weasel

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 5:16 PM

oh, and i just love all of the liberal misdirection in these comments. instead of commenting on their corrupt, moraless, lying, cheating, hypocritical political leader - they misdirect to newt gingrich, george bush, the war, etc. etc. pretty transparent, and laughable.

truth hurts: john edwards is a moral coward. a spoiled little rich boy who thinks nothing of lying and cheating. he is done, and america is better off for it. we need to get rid of all these politicians like edwards, bush, kerry, etc. who lie. and the media has proven that it won't be there to help us... unless it fits their agenda.

Posted by: edwards is a cheater | August 11, 2008 5:18 PM

The male of the human species was given a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to operate one at a time. I am a male and I have proved this axiom many times.

Posted by: OP (Occasional poster) | August 11, 2008 5:18 PM

Geroge Bush let our country go bankrupsy and vulnerable to terrorists' attacks. I think GW will be remembered in history as one of our worst presidents and for leading our country to this unnecessary ugly war, in which so many of our fathers, motehrs, sons, and daugfters lost their lives. We lost so many allies as well.

Posted by: Hoosier | August 11, 2008 5:18 PM

I totally agree with No Surprise. When he was asked why he did it he was a total whimp. I cant believe in this day and age men can't just be men and say I DID IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO!! Good Greif.

Politics..hooey this is an issue all men have, they all think they are special, it is the genetic make up. Sow the seed everywhere.

What kills me more is Republicans who criticize it when most men do it! Why do they covet marriage so much when they can't be monogamous? 70% of men can't live up to the contract and I am being generous by saying even 30% could.

Posted by: they can't help it. | August 11, 2008 5:20 PM

Finally,

A democrat in favor of drilling !

Posted by: Lee | August 11, 2008 5:20 PM

Let's get real. Both Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani left their critically ill wives for other women. Men with wandering eyes and other body parts can be found in every political party....not just among the Democrats.

Posted by: Sam D | August 11, 2008 5:21 PM

"You can be absolutley sure that if any of the Republican candidates even hinted at doing such a thing it would be all over the press"

John McCain did the same thing to his then-wife at the time, and then left her. You people are idiots.

Posted by: Cj | August 11, 2008 5:22 PM

Who cares his wife probably told him to go out there and get some seeing that she couldn't give it herself. Not knocking her just the cancer.

Posted by: Sweet Dick Chenney | August 11, 2008 5:22 PM

So John Edwards got caught. That girl is a looker, so I can understand why he cheated.When the opportunity presents itself, I think all men will cheat on their wives.

Posted by: darudz69 | August 11, 2008 5:22 PM

Oh, Please. A man cheating on his wife. Let's take all the men in the country and see just how many are innocent enough to be entitled to throw the first criticism. Elizabeth Edwards is a savvy, intelligent woman who understands the world of politics and the hanger-ons and power junkies who are inevitably part of it. I'm sure she's embarrassed by the press coverage but that's also part of the game. If you throw your hat in the ring, you deal with the dirt-digging and the inevitable discovered skeletons. We're such a nation of phonies professing shock and dismay at behavior by men in power that is so predictable. Doesn't matter if they're Dem or Rep, somewhere along the line they feel entitled to a little something on the side.

Posted by: middlegroundmom | August 11, 2008 5:24 PM

I don't think Democrats cheat in greater numbers than Republicans; Republicans are just more skilled at cover-ups, & if the coverup doesn't work they can always send a certain member of the party out to shoot the troublemaker during a friendly hunting trip.

Posted by: CM | August 11, 2008 5:24 PM

Bet you a bottom dollar that September 23 "Conversation with John and Elizabeth" doesn't go forward....

I do feel sorry for Elizabeth Edwards, but she is partly to blame for promoting the lie that they were a happy family. What if John had become the nominee and then this came out ? Now there are reports that Johnny may have paid Rielle hush money from his campaign funds.... this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: Victoria | August 11, 2008 5:27 PM

Come on-- an affair is really should not be THAT surprising. The guy totally lost my respect when he continued his election campaign after his wife was diagnosed with a recurrence. OK-- the hard core supporters will say she was ok with it. But honestly folks.... if it were my spouse with a recurrence of cancer... I'd bow out in a heart beat and tell my spouse that was just the way things were gonna be. When battling cancer--- who needs the excessive stress that comes with a political campaign these days. I think his actions in this regard speaks volumes to his level narcissism, arrogance and perhaps a little sociopathy thrown in for good measure.

Posted by: cdk | August 11, 2008 5:27 PM

Just because he ran for the president doesnt make him any less human or more for that matter. He probably did what most ego boosted men would do when faced with temptation. It is in the human genes. Can everybody stop whining you losers.

Posted by: jokerinthepack | August 11, 2008 5:29 PM

I'm 58 years old and never had sex with anyone. Maybe I should be president.

Posted by: Abul Hassan Bani Sadar | August 11, 2008 5:29 PM

I do not understand.

McCain cheats on his invalid wife, files for divorce, then get a marriage license before the divorce is final, and marries a very rich much younger woman.

Does this not reflect on McCain's character or am I missing something?

Is there a double standard here?

Posted by: Robert | August 11, 2008 5:29 PM

Dear Phil6

Say what - u think Georgie boy kept u safe - can you - instead of sharing the info - just share what you are smoking please.

LOL - you must be a life time Fox TV member.

Posted by: Say What | August 11, 2008 5:31 PM

I am a fan of Newt G. but I read on the internet that he served his wife divorce papers while she was recovering in the hospital from a hysterectomy. Is this true? If so, he is a prick.

Posted by: darudz69 | August 11, 2008 5:32 PM

I'm 58 years old and never had sex with anyone. Maybe I should be president.

Posted by: Abul Hassan Bani Sadar | August 11, 2008 5:29 PM
-------------------------------------------

Oh sorry to hear that. Hang out with me Bush and McCain we can get you some.

Posted by: Sweet Dick Cheney | August 11, 2008 5:32 PM

I'm so tired of all the partisanship. "Oh, my guy may have lied - but look at your guy!" Isn't it about time we required more of our elected officials no matter which party they're from?

IMO, Edwards was the worst of the bunch before he made this mess. He complains about 2 Americas after he made a fortune with emotional lawsuits and did every thing he could to avoid paying taxes on what he made. All the while decrying others who actually work hard and pay what they're required to pay honestly.

That's hypocracy and that's what disqualified him from the Presidency. This episode just shows how deep the corruption goes.

The same can be said of many Republicans - they all should go.

Posted by: Dan | August 11, 2008 5:33 PM

I'm just glad John E. was kewl enough to make it through without being called out so Barack could win the Iowa caucus.

Hillary and her supporters are whining about it but they're stupid anyways.

No Hillarious in office, Barack's the way to go yo


Obama '08

Posted by: Ned | August 11, 2008 5:34 PM

The disrespect shown to Elizabeth Edwards on the part of the other woman is just colossal, astonishing, dismaying. Of course it's his child. Poor thing needs Angelina Jolie to adopt her now.

Posted by: Gaias Child | August 11, 2008 5:34 PM

Hey there Kay B. Day. Did you say Bill Clinton got a pass from the main stream media concerning his affairs? Who is kidding who.

Posted by: Colorado | August 11, 2008 5:35 PM

The human heart is desperatly wicked above all things and who can know it. Human depravity should come as a surprise to no one, Democrat nor Republican.

Posted by: MRC | August 11, 2008 5:36 PM

The National Enquirer has become the standard-setter for journalism. The media are devoting their limited professional resources to reporting gossip rather than covering the issues that seriously effect the lives of citizens in this country - such as the lies our government fed us about the reasons for going to war in Iraq.

Politicians' marital affairs are their private matter. I have more serious issues on my mind, and I would hope the Post's journalists do, too.

Posted by: Jane Dobija | August 11, 2008 5:36 PM

Interesting thread. John Edwards is obviously a slime-ball for the affair he carried on and lied about while running in the primaries for Prez. No excuses. In fact I think he's still lying. I really don't get the sheer audacity when he can look straight on in a camera and say that he did not father a child with that woman.
I was a big fan of John Edwards politics and policies. No more.
My heart goes out to Elizabeth Edwards who does have "it" going on. Smart, savvy, articulate, values in the right place, courageous.
It's painful to look at this train wreck.
I do agree with posters who write that this is not a priority issue for Americans.
The attention it's getting is also sad compared to the state of the world, this country, and yes the current Administration who have trashed our Constitution and apparently lied a number of times in getting this country to attack Iraq and overthrow it's government.
That is deeply disturbing.

Posted by: bubbleburst | August 11, 2008 5:36 PM

Anonymous: John Edwards a "spoiled little rich boy?" You should really check out his biography before you say something like that.

Posted by: redfern | August 11, 2008 5:37 PM

Do liberals have anything else to say than BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED!? Edwards cheats on his cancer-ridden wife... well atleast he isn't Bush! hehehehe grow up you half brain twit.

Republicans went throught the same thing with Newt... and look at him.

As far as Bush is concerned, just remember, there have been no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11... even the French thought Saddam had weapons. The New York Times wasn't screamming about bad intelligence when we were going in, they said we needed more allies... its amazing how "you" guys want to rewrite history so that you will be remembered as those who saw this coming. when in fact you had no clue, and still don't have a clue what is going on. Why do you think B. Hussein Obama is changing his tone about Iraq now? because the facts are right their for everyone to see... we are winning! The Dems put all of their chips on us losing Iraq and now that we are ahead, they return to the BUSH LIED mantra. there are plenty of logical things to criticize the President for... but this Michael Moore BS is nonsense!

I didn't vote for Bush in 2000, but I did in 2004. Aside from his domestic spending spree (which was by and large supported by the Dems, ie Prescription drugs, etc.) his foreign policy has been ok... it is improved without Donald.

I think Bush will be remembered as one of those presidents who leaned against public opinion to do what will later be discovered to be the creation of a stable democracy in the middle east.

many criticized lincoln for the civil war, and look at how he is remembered. FDR picked a fight with the japan (which lead to Pearl Harbor) and look at his legacy. in a 100 years historians will look at the long term results, not opinion polls.

The people who chant BUSH LIED also tend to be the partisans who suport the Dems agenda... which makes me think that if Bill Clinton invaded Iraq (as he wanted, and supported) the Dems would be defending this policy.

You are partisan hacks who only do what you are told... stop reading Micheal Moore and read some Steyne... and don't check with your liberal book club to see if he is one of the bad guys before you read it... just read it and shut up!

Posted by: Enough Already! | August 11, 2008 5:37 PM

Robert,

Republicans are the purveyors of all good because they are morally superior to everyone else. This is partially due to the fact that God loves them more, but also due to the fact that they are not only more Christian than Democrats, but significantly more American. Not a single Republican has ever committed a sin or a lie in the party's long, ethically-pure history. The Republicans gained a foothold among Christians when they proved that God hates gays, and will strike down any woman who has an abortion (unless the baby was conceived by Republicans.)

Posted by: Anon | August 11, 2008 5:38 PM

If you think Democrats are the only to do this, remember Newt Gingrich?

In Spanish we say you should never spit too high up, 'cause the saliva could fall back on you.

Posted by: Catalina | August 11, 2008 5:38 PM

Robert:

I do not understand.

McCain cheats on his invalid wife, files for divorce, then get a marriage license before the divorce is final, and marries a very rich much younger woman.

Does this not reflect on McCain's character or am I missing something?

Is there a double standard here?

______________________________

Clearly the media will not discuss McCain's background in general.

What are they afraid of? Everyone else seems to be fair game going back to elementry school.

Jim

Posted by: Jim33 | August 11, 2008 5:38 PM

I guess O'Reilly was right about this guy all along!

Posted by: Right wing conspirator | August 11, 2008 5:38 PM

"Yeah stuff like this never happens with Republicans. Though they do seem to have a soft spot for the little boys."

I'm sorry, ST but you are completely wrong on this. Republicans do NOT have a soft spot for little boys, it is actually rock hard.

Posted by: gf | August 11, 2008 5:40 PM

Who cares?

Posted by: Shirley | August 11, 2008 5:43 PM

Most of you seem to have missed the important factor involved with this story. It is not that Edwards had the affair, it is that he lied to everyone about it, proving to me, and hopefully everyone else, that he, just like Bill Clinton, is capable of lying. Clinton wasn't beaten for the Monica affair-he was prosecuted for lying about it. A big distinction. Now Edwards is doing the same thing, although he won't be charged with anything.

Posted by: travelingcat | August 11, 2008 5:43 PM

all men cheats womentoo

Posted by: paul | August 11, 2008 5:43 PM

This story is so hot I can't stop fapping!

FAP FAP FAP!

Posted by: TruckerT | August 11, 2008 5:43 PM

Do any of you really think that this about Dem or Rep? I mean give me a break. Tricky Dick and GWB, McCain and his affair, bathroom stalls, young boys, Bill, and this. It's not Dem or Rep, its our society. It's all about me and what I want - I want more money, less taxes, bigger this and bigger that. I want to win or save the earth or hug a tree or kill a hippy. We are not together as Americans any more. Always attacking each other, lack of trust, and worst of all fearing. Come together people. See the good in one another and forgive what you might perceive as bad. We are lost if we can't do this.

Posted by: human | August 11, 2008 5:44 PM

Unlike many of my liberal brethren who are (misguidedly) commenting here, I have to jump in not to defend Edwards' actions, but categorically denounce them. I am the daughter of a prominent trial lawyer (a Democrat!) who cheated on his wife and, like Edwards, showed absolutely no remorse for the damage he caused to his wife or then-young children. These men feel, as Edwards himself explained without at all comprehending what he was saying, that they are entitled to behave as they please, without consequences. I hope that Edwards' tryst was worth it to him. He's destroyed his political career, his public persona, and any iota of respect that I had for him.

Also, "her cancer was in remission" is the lousiest qualifier for such a heinous act that I've ever heard. What a jerk.

Posted by: Beth | August 11, 2008 5:44 PM

As usual thinking with the wrong head!

Posted by: Jeri | August 11, 2008 5:45 PM

*yawn and stretch*

Let me know when there's some real news happening.

Posted by: Old_Hippie | August 11, 2008 5:45 PM

cheating to stop is not easy it is just like sleeping and eating...it happens just because we had body

Posted by: paul | August 11, 2008 5:45 PM

I can't believe he had the gall to have an affair while running for president - what if HE was the Dem choice right now??? It would totally throw the election to the Republicans, no two ways about it. He would destroy the Demo's chance to inhabit the oval office for this term? Talk about selfish.
And what about his wife - SHE is the one with the money - the money he has used to bankroll his ambitions. This man is just gross.
AND what about the media's hesitancy to report this? Do they really think we don't care about our potential leaders ethics??? Hellooo! I, for one, will never again look at the NE as just a gaggle of silly lies - they reported news no one else would touch. ...I wonder if the press was protecting the Dems, or setting them up for a fall?...

Posted by: jen in tulsa | August 11, 2008 5:46 PM

let he who is with out sin cast the first stone

Posted by: Frank | August 11, 2008 5:48 PM

Turns out that 'the cheater" and thing, are "THE TABLOID TRASH"!
Never again will I ever vote for a democrat because of this, also, because of the fact his own party is backing him. RUBBISH BEHAVIOR!
What is wrong with people and the people who back them thinking this is honest behavior? They all need to find their heart and meet themselves.
BLESS YOUR HEART ELIZABETH.
Karen King

Posted by: Karen King | August 11, 2008 5:48 PM

Well reille, now you are famous, a celebrity, too bad it had to come at the expense of another woman, a real woman, one who passed many courageous tests, not like you, someone who had nothing going for her except a toss in the sack. Get your head on straight and find yourself a real job, not one found between your legs!

Posted by: Pasha 13 | August 11, 2008 5:50 PM

I think it's funny how some people try to pin infidelity on party members on one side of the aisle... ANYONE can cheat, and many people do. Stop acting like your immune from making bad decisions - those are the decisions we learn from in life. Sure - sometimes the lessons hurt, but we all go through them. Republicans, Dems, Independents, etc., etc.
No one person making a bad decisions gives anyone else the right to judge them, or their decisions.

Posted by: does it matter | August 11, 2008 5:50 PM

John Edwards isn't even a good lier. You just know he's going to end up married to that rat haired broad who trapped him knowing he was too weeny-waggy to notice what she was doing.

Posted by: know-it-all | August 11, 2008 5:52 PM

People who cheat on spouses are also the same people who are more likely to do other questionable even illegal activity. If they will lie and cheat why would they not steal?

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Posted by: runescape shop | August 11, 2008 5:53 PM

Liberals always think they are right and conservatives are always wrong. Nobody looks at live from a balanced point of view anymore. In my view, both sides are evil and giving either one of the parties too much power is bad. Just look at what a liberal legislation in Calif has produced. A backrupt State.

Posted by: balancedview | August 11, 2008 5:53 PM

You guys are missing the biggest issue of this stiry -- the MONEY. Hello?? Annual gift tax starts at $24k. At $15K a month, Edwards stooge Baron passed that in the second month. Did he pay gift tax? Did Hunter and Young pay taxes on the receipt of these "gifts?" And what about the $389K paid by the Edwards campaign to Baron around the time the scandal broke (you know, last October, 10 months before the "MSM" deigned to even mention it?) -- was ANY of that money used to pay off Hunter and Young? (And why do you have to pay off Young in the first place, if he is the father. Isn't he the one who should be paying people off?) In any case, if any of that money came from the campaign that will be a violation of Federal law. As will any tax "mistakes" made by any of the key players. Remember: they got Al Capone for tax evasion, not murder!!

Posted by: David B. | August 11, 2008 5:53 PM

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Posted by: lolretards | August 11, 2008 5:53 PM

We could all list numerous Republicans AND Democrats who have been caught with their pants down. For that matter, we could put the names of quite a few religious leaders and evangelists on it also. It's not surprising nor particularly shocking that Edwards couldn't keep his pants zipped either. The disturbing thing is they all spout family values to the public, then go behind closed doors and get their jollies off. Such hypocrisy is just sickening. Who can forget the fervor with which Newt Gingrich harangued Clinton for his Lewinsky blowfest, only to be outed for his own ten-year adulterous affair...

Posted by: Fed up with all of them... | August 11, 2008 5:54 PM

it shows however educated you are however dedicated your family life is men and women will CHEAT...they keep going back to their animal genes of wanting more then one mate.we choose marriage over hundreads of years perhpas to fight disease for survival...and we keep reverting back to more then one mate.knowing its not good for oneself and to others you love.internet/cell phones/tv has made it worse as men are becoming attracted to staying in a room alone away from family and doing porn,chatting,webcaming prostitutes and women who like these interactive sex games...and worse meeting up.people have started livign theri whole social life onlien too...happier to be alone and do whatever on the internet...traveling has made men free to do these things away from wives in a hotel room.who will teach morals and love and faithfulness to the world?

Posted by: sad | August 11, 2008 5:54 PM

Have any of you who are whipping McCain for leaving his first wife read the Wikipedia entry for McCain? If you had been through the Vietnam War, Hanoi Hilton with untreated injuries for six years, returned to the U.S. where returning vets were reviled and spit upon, went through months of rehab, just to name a few of his experiences - then you might be in a position to criticize McCain for not being able to make his first marriage work. How are your personal relationships? Hurt anybody recently?

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Posted by: runescape shop | August 11, 2008 5:56 PM

For all those on the left; the difference between McCain and Edwards is that when mccain had his affair there was a huge difference. 1) A young kid 5 years as a POW comes home as a stranger to a steranger. 2) McCain wasn't going around the country preaching his holier than though crap, us versus them, Dems good, Reps evil crap - like Edwards has been doing nonstop for a decade. Yeah McCain had an affair. That was between him and his wife. When you are a self professed saint like Edwards was trying to portray himself, you get what is coming to you. ALSO - the scumbag lowlife is still lying about the child, the chronology, and the length of the sneaking around on this near dead wife in a feeble attempt to save his "reputation" for the only people who will still believe a word that comes out of his mouth; the ignoramuses on the left.

Posted by: robt | August 11, 2008 5:56 PM

Are people really mad, because Edwards cheated on his wife... he told his wife about the affair 2 years ago. He respected her wishes and did not make it public... but the NE felt they should tell the story. Now, for everyone blasting Edwards do not forget McCain, who not only cheated on his wife... but left her while she was sick for the much younger other woman.
Guess you can call him a flip-flopper!!!

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Posted by: runescape shop | August 11, 2008 5:59 PM

You would think that McCain, Edwards,
Gingrich, Giuliani,etc would learn that
their infidelity would be learned sooner
or later but it boils down to this:
A STIFF PRICK HAS NO CONSCIENCE.

Posted by: PRM | August 11, 2008 6:00 PM

It makes me really mad that the Edwards campaign spent my hard-earned money on that phony, so-called film-maker. I had to juggle every dollar I gave to Edwards, money I would otherwise have given to worthy causes - Mercy Corps, Oxfam, for example. Not only that, but I actually thought he was one of the good guys and I truly hate that he cheated not only on his wife, but he cheated also on me and on hundreds of thousands of the rest of us.

Posted by: cpbailey | August 11, 2008 6:01 PM

Honestly - who cares? He doesn't hold a public office and won't again. It doesn't matter to me if it's a Dem or a Repug - if they care about the people and our country, I don't care what they do with their lives. I wish we could have a good Libertarian or Green Party scandal though. A two party system just doesn't leave enough room for good old fashioned scandal.

Posted by: Time For More Parties | August 11, 2008 6:01 PM

Let's not forget Republican Newt Gingrich who also cheated on his wife while she was dying of cancer. This isn't an issue of which party he belongs to. There are self-centered and conceited men of questionable integrity in both parties. I'm more upset that Edwards risked the loosing the election to the Republicans by thinking for a minute that he could run with this hanging over his head.

Posted by: Liz | August 11, 2008 6:01 PM

" While his wife was in remission from cancer"

I guess affairs do no harm as long as your spouse is not sick.

Posted by: Chef Bob | August 11, 2008 6:03 PM

who doesnt want get laid????
the spouse was/is sick,unable to fully engage his desires and being on the campain trail 7+days.Have mercy on Mr Edward.He didnt mean to hurt his wife.I hope all MEN do understand this.

Posted by: kwangu | August 11, 2008 6:05 PM

What's the big deal about cheating? It happens all the time. Monogamy isn't natural in humans. I've dealt w/it in my family, my job, my friends. After you've been w/someone at least five years, someone's going to step outside the relationship. Most couples just deal w/it and move on. Sometimes it's even a blessing.

Posted by: Diane | August 11, 2008 6:08 PM

Great post by human. Good stuff.

Posted by: Cj | August 11, 2008 6:10 PM

Hear ye Hear ye time for a revolution...all politcians are crooked,lying,cheaters and here we are the "average people" fighting about who did who worse. Wake up...it will not get better until we as Amaricans say enough instead of pointing fingers at the other crooked lyng cheater on the other side of the aisle.Every generation needs a new revolution. The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Politcians dont WORK.

Posted by: Neil | August 11, 2008 6:10 PM

You Libs are hysterical!! Let me get this straight....Edwards cheating was caused somehow by Bush and WMD's, along with Larry Craig's bathroom episode....?

You Partisan Goofballs just keep spinning away, blame everyone else for your boy's lack of judgement, his uber-ego, and his complete lack of morals...and the rest of the electorate will continue to watch and laugh.

How about you all grow up, drop the partisan BS and just admit that he screwed up...this has nothing to do with Bush or Larry Craig or (to mention a few more dispicables for your side of the aisle) Elliot Spitzer (D), Kwame Kilpatric (D) or the King of the sleazes himself - Bill Clinton (D). As long as their are politicians, there will be scandal.

You see my little partisan friends, neither party has a monopoly on disgusting behavior, until lately, you just got a pass if there was a (D) beside your name.

So please, continue to spin away - I'm sure by tonight you'll have convinced yourselves that Dick Cheney and Halliburton are somehow to blame.....the rest of us will continue to watch....and laugh!

Signed - An Informed Independent.

Posted by: Tim_CA | August 11, 2008 6:14 PM

MOST politicians cheat, and have done so since the beginning of this country.

Just ask the Founding Fathers. Many of them where cheaters. Should we get rid of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence?

Posted by: framecop | August 11, 2008 6:15 PM

I'm so glad that this thread hasn't turned into a bunch of trolls claiming the moral high ground and calling each other names.

Congratulations.

Posted by: Chief Jimbo | August 11, 2008 6:16 PM

It's exhausted reading the vitroilic jabbing. Go back and read comments by Paul, Lee, OP, Cindy, MRC and Old_Hippie. They seem to be the only ones who get it.

Posted by: Say What? | August 11, 2008 6:16 PM

The real scumballs in this affair are the creatures who make a living hounding and humiliating the innocent wives of the 'perps'.If you can't say something nice about someone, best to say nothing at all.
As Christ said " Judge not that ye be not judged". And "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".Without condoning John Edwards one iota, life is hard and human beings are very frail.

Posted by: Tessa Shaw | August 11, 2008 6:17 PM

I'm a Democrat and I'm disgusted.

I don't really care about John Edwards's personal life. What is so disgusting is his phoniness. When he was talking to Bob Woodruff, he was obviously lying. Does he think we're all stupid? Even his affair is more forgivable than that shallow, heartless interview. And at one point I had hoped Obama would pick him for VP!

I think I would have heart failure if I ever heard of Barack Obama doing such a thing. Just can't see it, though. Michelle doesn't strike me as the "stand by your man" sort of person. If Obama ever came crawling home confessing to a "liaison" resulting from narcissism I think Michelle would tear him a new one.

I know there are many (not all) Republicans delighting in this scandal. I would ask you to please keep in mind that we Obama supporters still want to reach out to you and stand together as fellow Americans.

Posted by: Murray | August 11, 2008 6:18 PM

John McCain is so disrespectful that he told his NEW WIFE, "at least I don't plaster make up all over my face like a trollop you C_NT."

If Edwards had been the nominee, shouldn't his and John McCain's infidelity just "CANCEL EACH OTHER'S OUT"?

In an intelligent country, it would.

Posted by: HGG | August 11, 2008 6:20 PM

Eric78, is that your age or IQ?

Posted by: Max | August 11, 2008 6:20 PM

Framecop

Get rid of the Constitution NO...we need to get rid of the all the amendments to it and run this country based off the original document. A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference. That is what amendments do "inference"

Posted by: Neil | August 11, 2008 6:22 PM

So, now we know that the CLINTON FOLKS are the ones who LEAKED THE STORY to the National Enquirer in the first place.

After all, Roger Altman, Clinton's former deputy treasury secretary, is part owner of The National Enquirer.

Now, we know that they released this story because they were pi**ed off that Edwards ran.

Posted by: HGG | August 11, 2008 6:23 PM

To Tim_Ca, Who are you kidding. You are nothing even close to an "informed independent" Everything you wrote says REPUBLICAN all over it. Pals with O' Reilly?

Posted by: Max | August 11, 2008 6:27 PM

Posted by: Neil | August 11, 2008 6:22 PM -

As times changed and as society advanced, the Constitution needed to be amended.

Posted by: framecop | August 11, 2008 6:28 PM

I don't find it surprising or even disturbing that a politician, even a presidential candidate, would have an affair. The fact that his wife was battling cancer and that he was parading her around to assist in achieving his personal ambitions, is a bit nauseating, but more or less what we have come to accept from people seeking political office. What is truly shocking and disturbing to me, however, is to see John Edwards' judgement (or lack thereof) and his behavior at a time when the stakes were so high for himself, his family and his party (one might add country as well). He had to know the implications of his reckless behavior and yet chose to behave this way with a woman whom he admittedly did not love. A man this reckless and irresponsible, regardless of party affiliation, is not qualified to hold any national office of any consequence, especially not the Presidency of the United States.

Posted by: MiddleoftheRoadAmerican | August 11, 2008 6:29 PM

o yes, and may I say, John Edwards is politically done for. He's toast. His squeaky clean image, loyal marriage, all trashed. Better get a job and raise your new baby. Elizabeth has to live with this. That's really too bad.

Posted by: Gaias Child | August 11, 2008 6:30 PM

Sorry Max -

Unlike you I don't drink either party's partisan kool-aid...I do, however, understand why I frighten you - I think for myself!

Signed - An Informed Independent

Posted by: Tim_CA | August 11, 2008 6:33 PM

When you have a Politian in office, keep him, so you don't have to fatten up another - an old saying!!!

Posted by: mike from TX | August 11, 2008 6:33 PM

Oh, and that distinction or qualifier that Edwards made about his wife being in remission, pretty much says everything that one needs to know about what kind of man John Edwards is. (Perhaps one could say a typical politician).

Posted by: MiddleoftheRoadAmerican | August 11, 2008 6:38 PM

I seem to remember hearing that Newt Gingrich served his first wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital...he had been cheating on her with the woman who would become wife number two...and he left wife number two for a staffer...

One thing that is bipartisan in Washington: infidelity.

Posted by: pepperjade | August 11, 2008 6:42 PM

This story makes you to want to ask the question, how much is it costing us as a nation when our political leaders, religious leaders and public figures continue to shame us because of moral failure? I am not just speaking concerning the affair! This makes a great headline story, but it shows us exactly what we are fast becoming - a nation of liars, adulterers and thieves! When a nation becomes consumed by promoting such actions whether in private or public, we are heading toward the fall of this nation! Our public leaders only reflect what is going on as a whole! Only when a nation that exalts a Holy God will it truly stand the test of time!

Posted by: Marv | August 11, 2008 6:44 PM

PepperJade...Your last line sums it all up quite nicely.

Well done.

Posted by: Tim_CA | August 11, 2008 6:44 PM

Oh, and that distinction or qualifier that Edwards made about his wife being in remission, pretty much says everything that one needs to know about what kind of man John Edwards is. (Perhaps one could say a typical politician).

Posted by: MiddleoftheRoadAmerican | August 11, 2008 6:45 PM

Who cares. John Edwards IS NOT a candidate for any office. It's a private matter between him, his wife, and their family. The media should let this go, and focus on other more important matters. If you must do stories about sex, lies, and would be presidents, it would be more relevant to look closely at the adulterous, cheating, lying ways of the other John, who IS A CANDIDATE.

Posted by: Bad Idea | August 11, 2008 6:48 PM

"Democratic presidents and candidates have long enjoyed a pass from mainstream media when it comes to affairs--JFK, Clinton and now Edwards, to hit some high spots."


A pass???? Then how do we know about these things?

Posted by: Roger | August 11, 2008 6:49 PM

I have worked on over 100 political campaigns and was a supporter of Edwards'. I was advised early in my career to "Never fall in love with the meat," as candidates will always let you down in some way. I am disappointed in Edwards, but not surprised. I feel terrible for his family.

Posted by: Sigh... | August 11, 2008 6:50 PM

I for one could care less if Edwards is a Dem or Rep. I'm sick to death of "men will be men" defense. Maybe its time that these women stop standing by their men and just throw the bums out. What message do these repeated ad naseum stories teach our young people about committed marriages--your boy will always cheat and you will always have to stand by and smile? Not for me! Come on, guys, once you commit to a relationship, keep it in your pants with other women!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Its Me from CA | August 11, 2008 6:53 PM

Wow!! There are some good posts from just regular Joe's here!! The point about if Edwards would not have ran, many of his primary voters would have been Clinton supporters and thus had Edwards not ran, the nominee may be a tad different today...
But with all these great posts, I believe that most folks (not all, as evident by the posts so far) believe that infidelity is wrong. And I in no way condone, approve or suggest that infidelity is "right." But in God's eye, gossip, lying, stealing, robbing is just as grievious as infidelity. Learn from Mr. Edwards mistakes. Study what made him do what he did, analyze his actions, debate the consequences of his actions and try to steer yourselves and others around you away from said actions and the events that led up to them, but be careful NOT to condemn him. This is not our place.

Posted by: albsure | August 11, 2008 6:56 PM

and don't forget the teddy kennedy "thing" at catchaquicky--oh, I mean Chappaquidick!!

Posted by: christine corgi | August 11, 2008 6:57 PM

Character is character.

To say the McCain was the way he was leaving his first wife because of a prison camp does not reflect the fact he was completely irresponsible before that. Finish near last a Anapolis, crashing 4 planes (one going to a football game) is part of a pattern.

The media just wants to ignore this because they are so afraid.

It is a sorry case when the family man, Obama could be affected because the of infidiality of someone else and other other guy running for president has done the same thing.

Posted by: Sal | August 11, 2008 7:00 PM

A politician lied!????? shut up, really?

lol

Posted by: Jennifer | August 11, 2008 7:04 PM


I see 2 sides to this:
The bad news-
John edwards is a lawyer :( (What do u expect from another lawyer on the hill?)

The OK news- so-lets give him a small break (very small)
When a member of a family has a chronic illness such as cancer- the divorce rate goes up to about 90%. A large number of men leave there family when a child has cancer because they have lost all control. They simply cannot deal with what has been dealt.

Posted by: what counts? | August 11, 2008 7:04 PM

> Big surprise. Another “slick wily” democrat lawyer cheating on his wife and lying to the American public.

Yeah, I don't like the adultery either.

> Makes you wonder about the slick democrat lawyer running for office… All talk - inappropriate actions

I don't think McCain is a Democrat or a lawyer, but he cheated on his first wife, even obtaining a marriage license to marry his second wife while the first two were still married.

He started cheating on her right after he got back from the war and found that she had been disfigured in an accident.

Are you sure you want to go that route? Because McCain has a lot of skeletons in his closet and shady associations that the media has forgotten about. You know he's one of the Keating 5, right? And the less said about that shady middle eastern guy who was getting poor folks to donate $2300 to the McCain campaign, the better. Of course, it wasn't really their money, but we don't exactly know where in the middle east it came from because they axed the guy as fast as they could once it came to light...

Posted by: Joe | August 11, 2008 7:05 PM

Dear Sal:

You are right. This should be be about McCain's character. Edward's sitution is not even relevant except to bring out the fact that everyone should be treated the same. This is not being done. It is not being done, not because the media does not know about McCain's character, but no one will go first.

It is a shame that there is so much fear among the media to even make the comparison when they are so quick to always make so many other comparisons.

Posted by: Judy 234 | August 11, 2008 7:06 PM

I concur MefromCA, what's more we can assume given the evidence, that men with an inflated sense of importance & other body parts will continue to think with their little heads, there's little hope of changing that. Ladies we need to take our cue from the insect world, mate with the most intelligent of the species & then eat them before they screw our world up.

Posted by: MefromAC | August 11, 2008 7:06 PM

Who are any of us to judge? And why is it anybodies business other than the Edwards'? There isn't a person in or out of this list of commentators who can say that they are without fault. I may not have done exactly the same thing as he did but I am not in a position to judge him. There are plenty of parishoners, clergy men and women, people who are so pious that I am sure that they must glow who have done the exact thing that John Edwards has done. The difference is that there is no political advantage to be made by making it public. Please give it a rest and start being concerned about things that matter like what kind of country/world are we leaving to our children. This is an issue that will disappear in November if not sooner but, energy and peace and global warming and economics will stay with us for a very long time. Let's stay focused on something that we can do something about.

Posted by: gk_ca | August 11, 2008 7:10 PM

This comment is in regards to the commnents that "Anonymous" made with this link listed.

My question is What does Iraq have to do with us getting attacked five times during the Clinton administration???? At least the Clinton Administration did not falsify, ignore documents, before jumping on the oil bandwagon and hee-hawed up to Iraq. GREED, 100% pure greed was the real reason for the war in Iraq, so, mister check your facts before you blabber your Republican mouth. Thanks for listening, but no thanks for blabbering. :)

Posted by: Virginian | August 11, 2008 7:10 PM

An inconvenient truth
If the only doctor who could save your life was.
Gay
or
Black
or
An adulterer
or
A pot smoker
or A commie
or
A muslim
or
Well. you get my meaning...........
Would you let them save your life?
I make no analogy. I see this travesty as pointing up the question.

Some people would , I would , And some people would'nt.
I guess that hoping to cherry pick ones heroes seems unrealistic to me.
Not that this gentleman is a hero to me.
I have'nt GOOGLED him one way or the other.

I guess that hoping to cherry pick ones heroes seems unrealistic to me.

Posted by: mbspringer | August 11, 2008 7:10 PM

No character in McCain?

What the press is also not covering is the fact that McCain has a son serving in Iraq.

Did any of you retards know that?

Posted by: MikeD | August 11, 2008 7:11 PM

Yes, there are the issues.

Edwards does not matter. It is McCain the counts because he is running for president. Do you really want a president that lacks character? Being shot down in a plane is not character. Getting caught up in peddling influence for Charles Keating is not character. Cheating on your wife is not character. Flip flopping on bills that you have sponsored is not character.

If someone is like this discussing issues is not very important because they really do not mean what they say.

It is pittiful.

Posted by: Debra - | August 11, 2008 7:16 PM

Having a son in the military can make a parent proud.

This however does not give the parent character. It is the character of the son.

John McCain was in the military. Do you think his father and grandfather were proud of his record?

Posted by: Debra | August 11, 2008 7:19 PM

Hey libs, there are major differences. Edwards was running for president when he cheated on his wife, lied to the public and probably conceved that "love" child. Mot even Bill Clinton(D) exceeded this level of slimy conduct. The liberal press gave Edwards cover and chose not to investigate. Seems the Edwards'campaign paid the girl friend and probably arranged for her not to submit the child for a paternity test. Edwards' wife was complicit in trying to pull the wool over our eyes so that "they" might be president. But John, not to worry, cesspool morales democrats could care less. You'll remain hero to many of the clueless. Like some who submitted comments here today.

Posted by: v racer | August 11, 2008 7:20 PM

Yep, just like Obama's mentor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYahF-ClGzw

Posted by: Hward | August 11, 2008 7:23 PM

V Racer:

Edwards is not a good person. Agree

John McCain is the sum of his history. It is one of underserved privelege and cheating.

Is this the best person in the US to be president?

Posted by: Jim | August 11, 2008 7:26 PM

V racer, you are the man!

Posted by: MikeD | August 11, 2008 7:27 PM

I prefer real news. McCain is now proved to have lied to get the US into the IRAQ war. He went on Letterman and claimed he has a source who KNEW that the IRAQI's did the anthrax attack.
NOT!! They were from Maryland.

Therefore, McCain committed false propaganda, which is a crime when the US is led to war by such means.

Yes, some people are already bored with the election. But 40% of registered voters stayed home in 2004. 10''s of millions are not registered and were not registered in 2004. Only 16% of DEMS under 26 yrs old, voted in the Texas primary. Only 13% of Republicans under 26 voted in the Texas primary. In 2004 half the population either were not registered or did not bother to vote. Therefore, the fact that half the electorate have already reached their attention span is not news. They did not vote last time either. I detest McCain''s health care plan because it will make me have to find new coverage at a much higher price, because I have existing conditions which all started a decade after I became a member of my current plan. I am on social security. Obama''s taxplan will not require me to pay one cent of federal tax. McCain''s taxplan gives back $500K more to persons making over $2.9 million than does Obama''s plan. Obama''s plan eliminates all tax on the 10 million people the feds define as under the poverty limit. If you make under $250K, Obama''s plan will save you money on taxes. All those on social security are going to vote their pocketbooks and vote for Senator Obama and receive a lifetime pass from federal taxes as long as they keep the Republicans out of office.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | August 11, 2008 7:27 PM

The higher the monkey climbs the more you see of his "posterior".. Sometimes it is better to just sit on the ground.

Posted by: obex2obex | August 11, 2008 7:27 PM

why they aren't covering these stories....

George W. 'Lips' Bush : First Gay US President? (continued)
by CONSPIRACY PLANET


Oddly enough the fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon was also named "Bulldog" on his gay sex sites like HotMilitaryStud.com, MilitaryEscorts.com and MilitaryEscortsm4m.com.

Pirate News producer John Lee (http://piratenews.org/bushgaygate.html) notes that Bush has other gay nicknames for White House familiars --

* 'Turdblossom' for gay puppeteer Karl Rove.

* 'Pooty Poot' for Vladimir Putin, Russian President and Commie KGB chief.

* 'Mr. Big O' for lispy treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, ex-CEO of ALCOA Corporation in Alcoa, Tennessee.

* 'Sally Suck-em-silly' for the late David Lewis

Kiity Kelley writes that "George earned the nickname 'Lips Bush' for his skill at giving blow jobs to his fraternity buddies."

Lee, in George Bush's GayGate, writes -- "Why is Bush so hostile to the idea of gay marriage? Perhaps because until 1987, George W. Bush was gay.

"According to a group of 29 Yale classmates who comprise Gay Ivy Leaguers for Truth, Bush was 'known to be at least sexually experimental throughout his time in college.'

"One of Bush's alleged former boyfriends, Anthony Berusca (Class of '70), told The Dallas Morning News that Bush was 'deeply conflicted about being gay, even somewhat self-hating.'

"Berusca is convinced that this conflict led to Bush's drinking problems, but describes the President as a 'gentle, caring lover......oh my'

"In 1986, the Bush family arranged for George to join Worthy Creations, a church group in El Paso that focuses on converting homosexuals through faith.

"A year later, Bush claimed to be straight, born again, and engaged to Laura Welch (Kitty Kelly in "The Family" wrote that Bush's twin daughters were not his offspring, but from a donor at a fertility clinic).

And what is Skull and Bones? The Power Elite networks of the Order of Skull and Bones and its influence in politics, government, education and business was researched and analyzed by the late historian Antony C. Sutton in his ground-breaking book "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones" (TrineDay.com)

Confession and blackmail are part of the rites of initiation for the Order, as new members must divulge their sexual histories to other Bonesmen, so they will always be compliant in the future.

Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts and former President George Herbert Walker Bush are also members of the Order of Skull and Bones.

It was noted that Kerry, allegedly running against fellow Bonesman George Bush Jr. in the 2004 election, ROLLED OVER aka as "TAKING A DIVE" and played dead during most of his 2004 FAKE "campaign."

The admission of fake reporter/ male prostitute Jeff Gannon (aka James Guckert) to the White House and his unexplained 180 sleepovers have added more evidence to a Gay White House with wags now claiming that GOP stands for 'Gay Old Party.'

After all, even Republican National Committee chair Ken Mehlman is gay.

So when will George Bush come out of the closet?

Don't hold your breath...

so why isn't the MEDIA covering this story?????


probably for the same reason you all think that there are terrorists in the world...


1. you're either complicit and making money off of it like Dianne Feinstein or

2. you're an ordinary AMERICAN that is being spoon fed the corn that passes as news nowdays.....but has no real food value, it's just to fatten AMERICANS for the next "LET's TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PEASANTS!!!!" scheme...

you financed BIG OIL's ACQUISITION OF THE 3RD LARGEST OIL RESERVES IN THE WORLD PEASANTS....


and you won't see dime one on that investment....


is that fair?


hardly, but being a placid dumb asp doesn't pay well


then does it....


do something different become an aware consumer twits.


.

Posted by: I wonder ......................... | August 11, 2008 7:28 PM

No character in McCain?
What the press is also not covering is the fact that McCain has a son serving in Iraq.
Did any of you retards know that?

Posted by: MikeD | August 11, 2008 7:11 PM

Actually MikeD, Sen McCain prefers that the public know very little about his children including the fact that he has a son serving in Iraq, but what the heck does that have to do with McCain's character? He is a saint because his sons chose to serve in the military? That was probably Admiral Grandpa McCain's influence anyway, & likely the cause of Cindy's affair with RX painkillers

Posted by: a retard & proud of it | August 11, 2008 7:29 PM

let's be honest here...


we live in a set of ecosystems...


there is no mystery, no surprise, unless you count the stupidity of leaders who think with their metaphorical crotches and not with their eyes and minds...

for example: we could have made a deal for the OIL in IRAQ...


but then there wouldn't have been any big money for


Carlyle Group, Bechtel, Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, DynCorp, and others...


and certainly no NON COMPETE CONTRACTS AWARDED eh ???


so bushCO and CRONYs and COMPLICIT CONGRESS, creates a situation which will drain the nations economy at the very moment when the worlds populations are reaching points that will tip entire regions into famine....


these rich kids, who trash talk anything standing in their way...


could get away with it 100 years ago...the land could withstand their lies.

it's not possible any more.


We need leaders that do not pander to families or the corportocracy.


The US Economy is a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

The Global Economy could use a good example of how to treat leaders who are ruthless in pursuit of personal gain at the expense of their citizens.


It would be good to see some whitehouse, executive branch members


brought down low, tried for treason and executed publically....it would give others courage...and hope...


in the fear the cowardice and the destruction of our values...


remove these scum from having an effect on our lives,


take out the trash.


today.

.
_______________________________________________________

there are about

40 PERCENT REPULSIVE SCAMMERS


working their magic aka lying as a position...


HILLARY


keep calling a spade a spade


bama man, let stand the repulsive scammers lies being used against you


he didn't say it wasn't true...

he used it 16 years of hatepoured out against THE CLINTONS


why ?????


THE CLINTONS ARE THE ONLY DEMOCRATS TO HAVE HELD THEIR OWN AGAINST THE REPBULICAN CIA BASED


HATE MACHINE...


now that she is using a little pointed comments of her own


THE REPUBLICANS are asking her to tone it down


for the sake of the party....right...


like they asked Al GORE to not contest the vote count in FLORIDA

they said that he was selfish and dividing the country.


was he?


What would AMERICA be like if Carter had had two terms?


I Al Gore had had two terms?????


ENERGY PROBLEMS????


no, none....


outsourcing would never have happened


and we would be enjoying European style cities instead of crime and depression...


AMERICA would still be the most respected nation on earth


and the TRILLIONS of dollars being poured in to WAR PROFITEERING HOUSEHOLDS and OVERSEAS would be being used to


upgrade AMERICA....vis a vis infrastructure programs...


.

Posted by: some one smarter than you.... | August 11, 2008 7:30 PM

I wonder .........................

Posted by: Why you're an idiot | August 11, 2008 7:30 PM

Quiz.
1. How long after the divorce was final from Carole did McCain marry Cindi?
Part two. Do you think for one minute that Cindi 'waited'?
It was one month before they got married.
Imagine that.
Quiz part 3
How many adulteries are confessed to in John's biography?
Its more than one. Guess.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | August 11, 2008 7:31 PM

Goodness, gracious. Dems, Repubs, making babies, propositioning young boys. There's no LIMIT to what's tempting to our politicians, is there?

What a hoot!

Posted by: Hoot Owl | August 11, 2008 7:32 PM

Which is relevant to THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?

Edwards lied about his adultery.

McCain lied about the 2001 anthrax attack, claiming he had a source that knew it was done by Iraqi's but as of now, thanks to the FBI, we know it was made in Maryland in a US fort which produced high tech military anthrax.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | August 11, 2008 7:35 PM

Posted by: a retard & proud of it | August 11, 2008 7:29 PM

So by the simple fact that you're retarded leads me to believe that you have never served in the military? I have.

Let me guess, you’ve been living off welfare/unemployment while I was in Iraq?

You’re an Idiot- Do the advantage McCain could have by exploiting his son’s military service?

Oh wait, you’re retarded, I forgot.

Posted by: MikeD | August 11, 2008 7:35 PM

I feel so sad for Elizabeth. To be going through so much pain and to realize that her husband was just coldly replacing her seems like almost too much for any one person to bear. I am sure that the 06 admission of his affair to her caused the cancer. This can happen. I am deeply sad for Elizabeth. I am not thinking about John. I am not thinking about Rielle. Just Elizabeth.

Posted by: misa | August 11, 2008 7:35 PM

Why are all you silly-nillies pointing fingers at other political parties instead of waking up to the fact that OUR AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IS UTTERLY CORRUPT AND MORALLY BANKRUPT?

As long as you keep pointing fingers, you'll keep avoiding the harsh, stark reality that we must accept if we're ever going to improve things.

STOP BEING PARTISAN, NITWITS!!!!!!

Posted by: JERRY GREEN | August 11, 2008 7:36 PM

Suing George W. Bush, The All-American Felon
by JON B. EISENBERG (SALON.COM)

(July 9, 2008) U.S. officials went to extremes to stifle our legal challenge to Bush's warrantless surveillance -- but a federal judge says the program is criminal, anyway.

On July 3, Chief Judge Vaughn Walker of the U.S. District Court in California made a ruling particularly worthy of the nation's attention.

In Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation Inc. v. Bush, a key case in the epic battle over warrantless spying inside the United States, Judge Walker ruled, effectively, that President George W. Bush is a felon.

Judge Walker held that the president lacks the authority to disregard the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA -- which means Bush's warrantless electronic surveillance program was illegal.

Whether Bush will ultimately be held accountable for violating federal law with the program remains unclear. Bush administration lawyers have fought vigorously -- at times using brazen, logic-defying tactics -- to prevent that from happening.

The court battle will continue to play out as Congress continues to battle over recasting FISA and possibly granting immunity to telecom companies involved in the illegal surveillance.

More !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Other Top Stories

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Bush Fulfills Grandfather's Dream to Overthrow USA by DAVID SWANSON (AMERICAN CHRONICLE)


Kucinich Introduces 35 Bush Impeachment Articles by BOB FERTIK


Bush Claims More Powers Than King George III by MASS SCHOOL OF LAW

The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder by VINCENT BUGLIOSI, Charles Manson's PROSECUTING ATTORNEY (COMMON DREAMS)

Saddam-Bush Exile Deal Could Have Saved $6Trillion by RALPH FORBES (AMERICAN FREE PRESS)

oh yeah Edwards and his infidelities speaks volumes about the press....one wonders...


not at all the WASHINGTON POST has been instrumental in making sure that the _current_administration_ maintains is miasma of disinformational fog


I mean they are STILL CALLING AN INVASION TO ESTABLISH A COLONY


"a war,"


which has certainly encouraged the Russians to invade GEORGIA, hasn't it...


obviously there is NO MORAL FIBRE IN AMERICA LEADING OR LEADING THE MEDIA


THE CORPORATE MEDIA:

obscuring truth as a daily part of his interactions with the

I'M_IN_IT_FOR_THE_MONEY_PAYMEOFF_MEDIA...

Howie KURTZ makes love to Karl Rove in the alleys of his life...as a favor

because you all are afraid.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 7:37 PM

Craig and Foley? But you forgat to mention the biggest "queer" of them all, Congressmen Frank from MS. His lover ran a prositution ring and I think that Frank knew it. Please get your facts before you speak.

Posted by: ezequiel gonzalez | August 11, 2008 7:39 PM


want to help AMERICA come out of it's economic slump...


stop the "war" FRAUD machine...

make the US ECONOMY a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY....


put all contractors in IRAQ, AFGHANISTANT, and the US directly affiliated with the "war" FRAUD effect under GAO GSA aegis...


and examine their books.


an OCCUPATION is _ILLEGAL_


however, seperating the EMBEZZLERS aka


bushCO and CRONYs from the MONEY...


makes the United States a lot more legitimate in the eyes of the world...


especially if treasonists, like Robert M. Gates...who used the CIA as a tool to defeat Jimmy Carter in his reelection bid,

or George W. Bush who committed SEC FRAUD with Harken OIL

are arrested and prosecuted for those charges...

you could arrest Cheney for involvement in commiting perjury to Congress regarding WMD et al..it's in John W. Deans' BOOK, "Worse Than Watergate," the exact charges and the way to make them stick...

and put Pelosi as President...


then the IRAQIs might see us as a responsible and capable nation, rather than as a lawless regime "on the take."


.and we could deal for oil as an option.


.

Posted by: hello jealousy.....you can suck my rear exit until you croak... | August 11, 2008 7:40 PM

Of course McCain does not want to exploit his son's service. The media also does not want give credit to McCain, just because his son is serving. His son's service has nothing to do with McCain, just like McCain's miseralbe record has nothing to do with the admirable records of his father and grandfather.

What is in question is whether someone who cheats and lies should be president. This has nothing to do with Edwards, only McCain.

Posted by: Debra | August 11, 2008 7:40 PM

We see again just how bogus the MSM is. And, yet they wonder why they are becoming more irrevelant by the day.

Posted by: joe | August 11, 2008 7:40 PM

Campaign finance and tax code violations concerning gifts and grants may well have been violated.

Posted by: BB | August 11, 2008 7:42 PM

Does Edwards get extra points in sleazism for cheating on a wife dying of cancer?

Posted by: Joe | August 11, 2008 7:42 PM

Liberalism is a mental disorder

Posted by: Independent for McCain | August 11, 2008 7:43 PM

Big surprise. Another “slick wily” democrat lawyer cheating on his wife and lying to the American public.

Makes you wonder about the slick democrat lawyer running for office… All talk - inappropriate actions
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hold on dude. You really believe we should not vote for Obama because of Bill Clinton's and John Edwards indiscretions?

If you are going to use that broad a paintbrush you are going to eliminate every political party ever to run for office.

I suspect its not Edwards affair you are really concerned about. I have a sneaky suspicion you are afraid Obama may be your next president and at this point you are going to throw all the kaka you can at the man. Am I close? Tell the truth now.

I for one, would have more respect for you if you simply said I think McCain is a better candidate and that is who I am voting for.

Come on NoObamaites, if you don't like him, fine. But at least be honest in what you say and don't make up all these utterly ridiculous lies about him.

But did you hear that Obama has a secret channel of communication with the President of Zimbabwe and that Obama is learning how to rig the next election in 4 years so that he wins no matter what. Yes, it's true.

I read it on the internet.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | August 11, 2008 7:44 PM

Who cares about Edward? He is history, unless he waits 30 years before running for president again. Then, like McCain, no one in the press will even mention it.

He still has potential at 72.

This is America.

Posted by: Debra | August 11, 2008 7:44 PM

Edwards claimed that the relationship began only after Hunter was hired to film him for a series of campaign documentaries?

By the time Hunter was signed on to the Edwards campaign as a videographer — for a fee of $114,000 — O’Brien said they were already in a steamy relationship with nicknames like "Love Lips"

“The affair began before she was hired to work for the campaign,” said Pigeon O’Brien

Here is 1 of the 4 John Edwards videos that were Produced by Reille Hunter


Edwards Webisode 1: Plane Truths

http://www.webcastr.com/videos/politics/edwards-webisode-1-plane-truths.html

Posted by: benny | August 11, 2008 7:47 PM

Franklin Credit Union Child-Sex Ring Scandal

WHITE HOUSE PEDOPHILES


On June 29, 1989, the front page of Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Times blazed with the headline:


Homosexual prostitution inquiry
ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush
‘Call boys’ took midnight tour of White House

The Times reportedly got hold of “hundreds of credit-card vouchers” showing the purchase of “homosexual prostitute services” by a number of influential aides and advisors in both the Reagan and Bush I administrations, including:

• Charles K. Dutcher, former associate director of presidential personnel under Reagan;

• Paul R. Balach, political personnel liaison to the White House for Labor Secretary Elizabeth Dole (wife of former V.P. Bob Dole), former aide to Dan Quayle, and who, ironically, was once an aide to Robert Bauman, the disgraced Maryland Republican rep caught red-handed (so to speak) with a teenage boy;

• Todd A. Blodgett, Republican National Committee staffer whose job was to ferret out dirt on Democrats (also known as “opposition research”);

• Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist and…


…Washington socialite and international trade consultant… [who] spent upwards of $20,000 a month for male prostitutes who provided sex to him and his friends, said to include military personnel who also acted as his “bodyguards.” It was Mr. Spence who arranged the nocturnal tour of the Reagan White House.

The Times also fingered one of its own: Stanley Mark Tapscott, assistant managing editor of the Times until his resignation just nine days before the story broke.


Mr. Tapscott… said he had not procured homosexual escorts or sexual services of any kind. He said in an interview that he had talked to two women he arranged to meet through the escort service as part of an investigation of dial-a-porn services he had initiated a year earlier when he was editor of the newspaper’s Money section. … His editors knew of no such investigation. …

Before joining The Times, Mr. Tapscott worked for the Office of Personnel Management in the Reagan administration.

What the Times didn’t mention (yet) was the name of Lawrence E. King, manager of the Franklin Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska.

How, you ask, could a Midwestern bank manager who looked like a 300-pound version of Al Sharpton on a drunken binge be mixed up with a White House callboy ring?

Well, it’s a long story.

In 1976, about eight years after the Franklin Credit Union was established, an accountant discovered some $400,000 missing from the books. In 1981, an anonymous letter tipped off the National Credit Union to the funny bookkeeping; an investigation confirmed that the funds were indeed missing, but nothing much came of the probe.

Yet.

In 1984, Edward Hobbs, a Franklin Credit teller wrote several letters, including one to the board of directors, alleging embezzlement. “The following day,” notes FranklinCase.org, “Hobbs was fired. Hobbs also supplied a letter to an Attorney and a Legislator. Their response to Hobbs was that ‘We’ve been watching Lawrence King for some time. We are aware of his living beyond his means. However, the Department can’t do anything because we don’t want to seem like the big bad white guy jumping on the tiny, black credit union.’”

Investigators apparently stopped worrying about being “the big bad white guy” in 1988; Franklin Credit was raided by the FBI and the IRS, and shut down. And it was about time, too; no longer was it just a measly four hundred grand missing: “After the closing,” says FranklinCase.org, “$37,000,000 in secret liabilities were discovered. Originally the Franklin Credit Union ledgers showed $2,600,000 in liabilities.” A few months later, this estimate was increased to $40 million.

King was indicted in May, 1989; rather than stand trial, he and his wife, Alice (also implicated in the whole mess) entered a plea bargain. Both went to prison; Alice served two years and was released in 1993; King was sentenced to 15 years but served less than 10, and was released in early 2001.

So, what does all this have to do with a White House callboy ring?

It seems that during the embezzlement probe, some nasty photographs surfaced at the Franklin Credit Union.

King — a Republican activist and “rising star” in the party, who sang the National Anthem at both the 1984 and 1988 Republican national conventions — when not busy diverting bank funds to his personal and political interests, was allegedly involved in procuring, or rather, allegedly kidnapping underage teens and turning them into prostitutes.

Now, we’re not telling you, or even asking you, to believe all this, or any of it (beyond the facts about the embezzlement case). We don’t believe a lot of what you’re about to read below. We’re just telling you what’s been reported by dozens of different sources over the past couple of decades.

The bottom line: Lawrence E. King, Jr., was believed to have operated a nationwide child-sex-slave ring.

Hang in there. It gets weirder.

The New York Times filed this report December 15, 1989:


The collapse of the credit union and the Government’s lawsuit alleging embezzlement were the extent of the case, at least on the public record, until last Monday. Then rumors that had been circulating in Omaha for much of the last month made their way into remarks presented to the Executive Board of the State Legislature in Lincoln. The speaker was State Senator Ernie Chambers of Omaha, who said he had received numerous reports, to which he clearly gave credence, that instances of child sexual and physical abuse were linked to the scandal. …

[P]articipants in a closed meeting that followed the Executive Board’s public session say he told of boys and girls, some of them from foster homes, who had been transported around the country by airplane to provide sexual favors, for which they were rewarded.

Posted by: you sprayers of disinformation need to be sued into oblivion and your homes confiscated.... | August 11, 2008 7:50 PM

No babe in the woods is Elizabeth Edwards in this. If she knew about this in 2006 and she still encouraged him to run for President it means she's as narcissistic as her husband (OK, maybe not as much as her husband but narcissitic nontheless). I am not unsympathetic to her for his cheating nor an I unsympathetic for her illness. My only point is she chose to put his failings aside for their greater personal glory. The ONLY difference between Elizabeth and Hillary is that Elizabeth comes across as 'nice' on TV. She's a player in the political arena and wanted her glory.

Posted by: truthteller | August 11, 2008 7:51 PM

republicans


will polarize defame and piss on obama and he will become the

flash in the pan he really is.

Republicans want him to run, he's the lone Indian


who will stop the whiteman....uh huh, sure he will...


John Riggins was something that happens once in awhile...


he certainly has more in common with "The Clintons,"


than obama


obama would be the towel boy


Andrew Young said that, Andrew Young knows the difference between hopes and dreams and "what is possible,"


Bill Clinton has demonstrated his strength of character and heart....relentlessly pounded by the Miami Dolphins / Washington INSIDERs

Cheney, Libby, the bush families, Paul Wolfowitz, the Kagans, Rumsfeld

he punched through their line, time after time...

he cut through the line, the hype, the spin , the BS storm...


how did they defeat him finally? they didn't , they couldn't so

they cheated....

they opted for electoral fraud, Diebold, voter culling, Ken Blackwell in Ohio...now working for a NEOCON think tank on K street , they intimidated the vote counters in Dade County FL, put Jeb Bushes girlfriends in charge of verifying the vote count...

talked trash relentlessly

and stained the reputation of a man that would go on to become a Nobel Prize winner...

Al Gore,

and instead of being celebrated as a great AMERICAN


we have to put up with these scheiss talking schiess stormers crap


as_if _that_ were okay,


it's not, in the real world it's called fraud

and CIA agents spinning schiess against the citizens would be called TREASON


because

that is what it is....and the punishment proscribed would death according to judicial studies that I'm familiar with, as and


because that is what it those treasonous acts are causing.


be forewarned, fair trial first, the rest is unscripted.


.your reponsibility is to the people first.


not the president by fraud.


get over itschiess stormers, you deserve jail time.


.

Posted by: cheeezeus.....is this the partidge family blog site ???? oh mmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...... | August 11, 2008 7:52 PM

first of all


there is no "war,"


there is an OCCUPATION,


that is paying Halliburton, KBR, BLACKWATER, Carlyle Group, CACI, CSC, Booze Allen Hamilton, Bechtel, and other

false "war," PROFITEERS


$467 $BILLION$ DOLLARS in allocated monies...


half a TRILLION DOLLARS,


you don't think that is buying some "dumb looks," from CONGRESS PEOPLE ????


dumb looks don't stop fraud.


plus, I hope you remember Petraeus had 190,000

FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS GO MISSING on his watch in IRAQ

and those weapons are turning up in Mexico and Central and South AMERICA...


and IRAQI OIL is turning up in UAE bank accounts affiliated with Halliburton...


go figure....

Posted by: gatesto oblivion....coming to a door near you soon.... | August 11, 2008 7:56 PM

No Mike I didn't serve in the military; my husband is a Vietnam vet, I am the mother of a Naval veteran of the Bosnian conflict & I own a small business that I work at 65-75 hours a week trying to keep up with the taxes I pay to finance a war that doesn't keep anyone safe & makes bitter disillusioned men out of those who have had to serve, sometimes multiple tours, with inadequate equipment, asked to do impossible tasks, which they so admirably do & with cutbacks in the support to their families waiting & worrying for them back home. I'm just an average citizen trying not to let my few employees down by letting them go, while trying to juggle that with helping out families for whom each month is a choice whether to put gas in their car, food on their table or pay the bill they owe me. I was just pointing out that McCain's sons' military service (2 are actually in the military last I checked) is more to their own character than his, & that it is McCain's wish not to publicize that service rather than the "fault" of the media as your statement implied.
Thank you for your service to the country Mike, I will pray for better things for you in your future

Posted by: a retard & proud of it | August 11, 2008 7:57 PM

Cheeezeus needs a valium. Or a nap

Posted by: thruthteller | August 11, 2008 7:57 PM

cancer or no cancer, his wife is ugly...i'd do it too....

Posted by: Tom - Male - california - like long walks on the beach | August 11, 2008 7:57 PM

Washington D.C.(the seat of American glory) is an almost dead roadkill that attracts new and old groups of buzzards and jackals every four years. Bambi can't live there anymore.

Posted by: novice | August 11, 2008 8:00 PM

INSIDER WASHINGTON is the epitome of unprincipled...

how does a really nice guy come in and take on Washington DC insiders by themselves...

they don't.


JIMMY CARTER, was backstabbed by William Casey, George H.W. Bush and Robert M. Gates...

William Casey, "died of a braintumor," 6 weeks after being asked to testify before Congress about IRAN CONTRA and was buried with a closed casket...

George H.W. Bush went on to become vice president and then president...after commiting treason

Robert M. Gates is Secretary of Defense today...


how do you deal with people like that? you really have to be able to gut them and leave them flopping on the bank for a blue heron to eat...parenthetically speaking...they are trash fish....like squawfish...they eat the salmon fingerlings and there are no "good fish," if there are too many of them...

which is why it would be a good idea for the "democratic candidates," to eliminate them now....

by identifying them...

SEARCH on October surprise, russian, carter, casey, bush, gates


it's all there....Hamilton knows about it, but Hamilton was persuaded by Dick Cheney to be bipartisan and pick up the soap....and cheenie sang sooooooo sweetly in his ear he didn't even realize that he had commited treason.... and still thinks he's a "good guy," though history will treat him poorly.


.check it out.

Posted by: oh that hurts, to be noticed by the terminally stupid.... | August 11, 2008 8:00 PM

maybe the reason George W. doesn't want to give up those emails is because they're about manboylove


Did George W. Bush Have Sex with That Man, James Guckert?

By Bob Fertik

In 1998, Bill Clinton was impeached because of these 10 words:

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.


In 2003, New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey was forced to resign over a secret gay affair.

So what about George Bush and this man James Guckert (a.k.a. Jeff Gannon) - a $200/hour gay male prostitute? (See Monday's expose by John Aravosis of AmericaBlog.org [1])

Sooner or later, Washington will have to ask: Did George W. Bush Have Sex with That Man, James Guckert?

On January 26, George W. Bush called on Guckert/Gannon at one of Bush's rare press conferences, "bypassing dozens of far more experienced reporters" according to Joe Strupp of Editor & Publisher [2].

I guess that depends on the meaning of "experienced."

This was not Guckert/Gannon's first time near Bush. Guckert/Gannon was at other Bush press conferences and was called on by Bush once before. Moreover, Guckert/Gannon went to the White House nearly every day for nearly 2 years. Each time he went, he got specific permission from Scott McClellan's White House Press Office. And Guckert/Gannon went to Bush's White House Christmas Party.

How did a $200/hour gay male prostitute get near George W. Bush nearly every day for 2 years?

Don't tell me the Secret Service didn't know Guckert/Gannon's background. It took amateur bloggers at DailyKos about 5 minutes to find out Gannon owned male prostitution websites, and just two weeks for Aravosis to find out he was a $200/hour sexual partner / wife substitute. I guarantee Scott McClellan and other top White House officials knew exactly who Guckert/Gannon was. According to RawStory.com, McClellan himself has been spotted at gay bars [3].

So how will the American people learn the sordid truth about Bush, the White House, and Guckert.

Posted by: I can see the washington post is "ALL OVER THE TRUTH" | August 11, 2008 8:01 PM

John Edwards 2012!

Posted by: Mike | August 11, 2008 8:04 PM


let's play "fair," here MSM

there's the same kinds of information outthere about Trent Lott, Karl Rove and others...


and the GOP posters here....let's see you go after your own about "morality,"

oh, you're just using "morality," as a position to


herd the sheeple? wotta a surprise from the people who gave you


"hate as a family value,"




the only thing more frightening to the repulisivescammers than a Hillary NOMINATION...


is a HILLARY CLINTON predidency, because it would be a death knell for corruption and for the OCCUPATION OF IRAQ,


by BIG OIL and WAR PROFITEERS...


bring on the rain, I'll be taking you apart next week punks.


.

how about that welfare for the INTERNATIONAL not even US CORPORATIONS, bushCO and CRONY team mates...


as they obscure the reality of a situation by claiming this is not needed...


how about the $760 MILLION DOLLARS a day of occupation welfare for

war fraud profiteers ????

what does that work out to a month???


how about those WOUNDED VETS, I guess they're really raking in the dough too right...

4 reups, no job when they get back, no families and no VA working for them, if they are disabled somehow they got to get a lawyer and take care of family business...


as bushCO and CRONYs pee in their faces for trying to take care of themselves after having served the country...

scum....


masquerading as republicans... company first, they don't even care about their purported party....they're riding it into the ground in the hopes that they can avoid indictment....


ha hah hahhahhahhah......ohmy....

.

Posted by: tippie canoe and tyler too... | August 11, 2008 8:05 PM

Another politician caught in scandal....
Nothing new. How come we're not hearing in the media, however, about McCain's affairs, in particular the one he had with Cindy when he was still married to his first wife when she had an accident and was left with a limp?
Everyone will talk about Edwards, but no one is saying anything about McCain's infidelities....
Fair reporting???

Posted by: abby0802 | August 11, 2008 8:06 PM

Hey Y'all...wake up! Unfortunately, there are too many folks in this country without morals! He sinned--no matter if he's a democrat or republican--that's wrong! And, I do feel bad for his family, I've been through this type situation, and it doesn't turn out good for anyone. And, what about the baby? Another fatherless child in this world. It's unbelieveable that so many people believe it's ok to screw around. It burns me up that some men can't keep it in their pants. And don't say it's all men, 'coz I have a good one!

Posted by: CV | August 11, 2008 8:06 PM

wouldn't wanna be ya...

FOAD

Posted by: see yah, | August 11, 2008 8:06 PM

I have never commented before.

It is interesting how some try to shut down the discussion when the truth about McCain or Obama is hitting close to home.

It is really not as complicated as some try to make it. The fact is that the media decides what and when we see information.

The Washington Post will never run a story about McCain because it is afraid, not of McCain or his supporters, but afraid of the other media outlets.

No one will go first so it is left to the National Inquirer.

Wow

Posted by: Debra | August 11, 2008 8:06 PM

I am really surprised by how this planet works! How can people tolerate lies from those that they elect, accept $1 trillion useless wars that kill millions of innocents around the world and are shocked only by sex scandals?

Posted by: The Martian | August 11, 2008 8:08 PM

Edwards is a man, and he fell into sin just like every other man at some point in time. The sin may not be the same, but EVERYONE sins.

Am I condoning his actions? Hell no! But how are some of you connecting him and what he did to ANYONE else? Edwards was (hopefully) alone with that female when he cheated.

What does it have to do with any other person, let alone Obama, who has NEVER been accused of adultery?

That's just a dumb ass connection! Sorry, but come on.

Also, someone spoke of Bush inheriting Clinton's foriegn affairs mess to try and correct. I beg to differ.

America has a mess to deal with because of our foriegn policy legacy. When we were the aggressors, imposing our beliefs and desires on other countries Americans said nothing.

Now, unfortunately the rest of the world has become tired of our paternalistic foreign policy and are striking (back or first depending on how you view it) Americans are crying foul. Beat it with that mess.

America needs to review its foreign relationships the way a business would examine a strategy that is not working.

1. examine what is happening now to figure out what is going wrong
2. research resolutions
3 implement those resolutions
4.evaluate results and either continue or readjust as needed.

Sorry for such a long reply

Posted by: Lisa | August 11, 2008 8:11 PM

Hey... you with your halo! I say let s/he without sin cast the first stone. I think Edwards will still figure large in America's future. He may be human and he may have made a very big mistake, but as his wife says, he has stood up and admitted to it - although I personally think there is more to it than has come out so far. I also think that he knows how big a mistake he made. Now I understand why he was so unwilling to consider the VP slot this time around.

I think those with all the open criticisms about him should look hard in the mirror before they speak. They should also consider that they too are human and can make mistakes. And as far as politics, this human weakness is not exclusive to any political party or to men or women of any particular walk of life.

Posted by: Paul Stewarrt | August 11, 2008 8:13 PM

For every nasty Republican comment that John Edwards' behavior proves how bad the Democrats are, I have a two word reply: Strom Thurmond.

Posted by: sconset987 | August 11, 2008 8:16 PM

Those who try to equate Edwards with McCain are missing two important points--

1) When McCain cheated on his wife, he was not holding political office nor running for any political office. He owned up to it to his wife, and they divorced on reasonably amicable terms. He cannot be blackmailed, as Edwards (and Clinton) could have been, to the detriment of our national security.

2) The real story is not the cheating, nor the lying, nor what it says about the judgment of good character of the cheater. The real story is that the media did everything they could to sweep the well-documented Edwards story under the rug. The New York Times, which published a front-page article alleging a McCain affair on the word of one anonymous source, did not publish a word about the allegations against Edwards for weeks. Even when there was photographic evidence, they kept silent. The media is so far in the tank for the Democrats that they should be required to report in-kind contributions to Obama's campaign. And now the Democrats want a return to the so-called "Fairness Doctrine?" Like hell!

Posted by: John Skookum | August 11, 2008 8:22 PM

Did GEORGE W. "LIPS" BUSH or any of the other Harken Energy executives trade on the Bush name in these speculative business deals? None of the principals will answer questions. But this much is known: after the Harken-Bahrain deal was settled, Othman was added to the list of fifteen Arabs who met with President George Bush and National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft three times in 1990 -- once just two days after Iraq invaded Kuwait -- while serving on Harken's board of directors.

The promise of hitting it big in the oil-rich gulf was certainly critical for Harken. News of the Bahrain deal kept investors buying stock and lenders making loans. Still, Harken had nowhere near the capital required for such a large offshore operation halfway around the world. This required real money. But not to worry: The billionaire Bass brothers stepped up to the plate and said they'd be happy to underwrite the cost of the drilling in return for a piece of the action. (Robert Bass is a member of President Bush's Team 100; he and other Bass family members have contributed $226,000 to George, Sr.'s, cause since 1988.)

But even well-heeled friends like the Bass brothers could not protect Harken from the troubles of the world. Just four months after the Bahrain deal was sealed, storm clouds developed over the gulf region, threatening the oil-exploration deal. In May 1990, the U.S. State Department sent a chilling but still classified report to Scowcroft. The report warned that Iraqi president Saddam Hussein was out of control and was threatening his neighbors:

May 16, 1990
SECRET
Attached is a paper containing a list of options for responding to recent actions and statements by the Government of Iraq. ...We ask that you pass this paper to Robert Gates [CIA] for his review.

Under "options" the memo suggested:
Ban Oil Purchases: The largest benefit Iraq receives from the US is through our oil purchases...
PRO -- A total ban on oil purchases would have some short-term impact.
CON -- Such action might also have an impact on US Oil prices.

Oil companies had learned, during the years of the long Iran-Iraq war, that trouble in the gulf hurts companies with oil interests because, for one thing, at the first sound of a rifle shot in the gulf region, Lloyds of London jacks up insurance rates on oil tankers and company installations. The "wartime" rates are very high and cut deeply into company profits and investor confidence. If things really get out of hand, pipelines are destroyed and waterways are mined.

The secret memo augured ill for Harken's fledgling venture. To compound matters, that same month, Harken's own financial advisers at Smith Barney produced a hand-wringing report voicing alarm at the company's rapidly deteriorating financial condition. (A former company official told Mother Jones that Harken owed more than $150 million to banks and other creditors at the time.) Since Harken wasn't producing anything, it was hard to find a revenue stream, unless you count the river of fees, stock options, and salaries running into the pockets of GEORGE W. "LIPS" BUSH and other top Harken executives. GEORGE W. "LIPS" BUSH, as a member of Harken's restructuring committee, could not have been ignorant of the report, since the board had met in May and worked directly with the Smith Barney consultants.

In June 1990, GEORGE W. suddenly unloaded the bulk of his Harken stock -- 212,140 shares -- for a tidy $848,560. A former business associate says that GEORGE W's motivation was his desire to buy an expensive new house in Dallas, for which he wanted to pay cash. The June 1990 transaction was an insider stock sale, and security laws required that it be reported no later than July 10, 1990. But GEORGE W. "LIPS" BUSH, filed no such report, at least not then.

Then, in August, Iraqi troops marched into Kuwait, and Harken shares plummeted 25 percent. GEORGE W. would have lost $212,140 if he'd waited to sell his shares until then. Still, he didn't file his SEC disclosure until seven months later, in March 1991 -- well after U.S. troops had finished fighting and the gulf war had moved off the front pages. Harken stock rebounded briefly, but quickly collapsed again.

Were government secrets discussed, directly or indirectly, that would have given Harken Energy a leg up in exploiting the Bahrain deal? The White House won't say. If George W. traded on exclusive, nonpublic, insider information, he committed a gross violation of SEC rules. Taken together, the company's critical need for success in its Bahraini deal and a possible oil embargo to be imposed by his father provided George W. with strong motivation to bail out of Harken stock before the public discovered either piece of news. (SEC spokesman John Heine says he is unaware of any enforcement action pending.)

The folks at Harken Energy weren't the only ones in Texas taking care of GEORGE W. "LIPS" BUSH during the 1980s. He was appointed the managing partner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, even though his partnership contribution was only a fraction of the team's purchase price. Among those coughing up the money to buy the Rangers were William DeWitt and Mercer Reynolds, major contributors to the president's campaign who had also been in on the rescue of GEORGE W's oil company.

where were these people when Martha Stewart was being made an "EXAMPLE OF"

hoping that was enough for you all, that's where.....

they make an example of someone not of their tribe to satisfy your need for justices...


you all have the attention span of fruit flies...


.

Posted by: get a grip dummies... | August 11, 2008 8:24 PM

Well I guess the old saying "all men cheat"
has some worth. I just wanna slap Edwards for being such an idiot!

Posted by: Concerned Citizen | August 11, 2008 8:26 PM

There are two nexus for immorality, cheating, narcissism, stealing and lying, Harvard/Yale and the US Senate or both. Political affiliation not, withstanding.

Posted by: starryperdun | August 11, 2008 8:29 PM

I think the extreme ranting going on in the blog posts here is pretty well par for what is out there by a lot of people on a lot of things. The Rovian/Bush philosophy has succeeded incredibly in so many ways. Everything is black or white, right or left, Conservative or Liberal, right wing or "liberal". You can see, if you step back and read some of the wilder posts here, to just where this kind of stupid thinking has taken the American people's discourse, and if you are interested (you should be) what it means for the ability of America to live, work and pull forward together.

The purpose of this of course is to "divide and conquer" on the theory that if you have 50% plus one vote, that is enough to "rule" the damnable left wing against their will. I mean, the other half less 1 vote are Americans too and entitled to the same rights under the Constitution and laws of the United States. And, of course, the corollary was to busily redraw the electoral map while in power in order to make is so you could, via the electoral college (which as most know is how the President is elected, rather than by straight popular vote) in fact rule with less than 50% plus 1 vote.

It is high time to clean out the hate and rage about essentially nothing. I mean, these ideas of absolutes were created precisely for the division they entail. This is the sort of thing that emperors and dictators do to stay in power when they have no real skill to lead the people. It is what started the religious wars in the middle ages, and it is what has lead to the potential beginnings of another one now. Going into the middle east the way America has, has fueled the fire the Osama has lit. And I know that there will be many who will attack that comment - but they are the ones who really don't get this point.

I think this kind of divisiveness shows up in for example the fanatical support for Bush against all the facts - I find it absolutely incredible. I mean, even the twisting of history to serve to support and glorify Bush. Bush and Pearl Harbor have no place in the same paragraph. I think anyone who can stand today with a straight face (of course, faces are not visible here), and say Bush somehow is a great President and will be so recognized in history, is a child that got left behind. I mean, if it is not blatantly obvious to you yet that Bush has lead the charge against terrorism into the wrong country, then you need to take a reality check.

I like the posts by "just me" and by "Say What". Well said. I would point to the factually incorrect post by "Enough Already" too because to me it represents so well the extremists who are out there in Wonderland, down the rabbit hole. I mean, the end comment high lights to me the incredible challenges of America in getting rid of the divisiveness for division's sake. America is truly challenged today at the fundamental level of human relations - just plain getting along, tolerance even if you can't agree totally, and having a sensible discourse based on fact and the best of good judgment.

If you can't do this, you can never work towards the best interests of the United States. I mean "... just read it (his preferred book) and shut up!". I believe this kind of dictatorial insulting comment, is elitist and supremacist in nature, and needs to be remedied first before America can right her ship and return to her former stature as a world leader.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | August 11, 2008 8:31 PM

Shocked only by sex scandals? I think not Martian, we aren't shocked by politicans with their pants around their ankles anymore, we've seen evidence of plenty of that & what's the point of checking whether their jewels are tattooed with a donkey or an elephant really? We need to focus on building a different kind of society for the future, if we hope to have a future.

Posted by: unshockable | August 11, 2008 8:36 PM

To: John Skookum
Does "when you cheat on your wife" lessen the offense of cheating on your wife? Is it less of a character and judgement issue if you own up to it? Is cheating by McCain the presidential candidate, (a man who cheated, married his mistress, and launched a political career using her money) less relevant than cheating by Edwards (who IS NOT a candidate for any office)? Because McCain used the money of his mistress/2nd wife to launch his political career, (money that he acquired access to by cheating on his 1st wife), can we argue that his whole career is founded on dishonesty?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 11, 2008 8:40 PM

John McCain did the same thing to his first wife...it was his business then and it is the Edward's business now. For those wanting to delve into these things watch Daytime Soaps

Posted by: patrik | August 11, 2008 8:49 PM

1. it's john's gagy
2. the affair went on for 2 years up until july of 2008
3. he's funneling money to rielle--a lot of money
4. this isn't going to go away since the baby isn't going to go away
5. elizabeth may not survive 5 more years...way to treat a dying spouse

Posted by: emma | August 11, 2008 8:53 PM


you want a quick fix ???


that will be painless for you all ???

but will help you determine how patriotic your presidente' by fraud and his people are ????


CONSCRIPT THE CONTRACTORS...


pass a law that will make everyone involved in IRAQ y AFGHANISTAN either military or GS Scale civilians under control of

GAO or the MILITARY at military and GS Scale pay grades...

cut the budget by 1/3 and give the citizens oversight on what is spent...


how much is Blackwater making, and what are their projects ???

you don't know, because it's classfied, and yet you are paying for every penney of it....sshould sound like complete BullSHYYTE to you if you have a brain...


AMERICA IS BEING DRAINED FOR THE BENEFIT OF A FEW....and they ain't all AMERICANS,


pull your head out of your buts and arrest somepeople...

take action.

Posted by: calliope of hope..... | August 11, 2008 9:06 PM

This was the best looking woman a wealthy, attractive, powerful, famous man could get? And then he loses his political career, probably at least, over this mousy nitwit who couldn't get a job for herself. It's just so pathetic.

Posted by: Alvin | August 11, 2008 9:06 PM

I don’t see why yhis should hurt Edwards career. A tawdrier version of the same kind of behavior helped John McCain immeasurably.
By dumping the dumpy first wife, and obtaining a rich Trophy wife- it gave him money, and social positioning among the country and yacht club republicans.
McCain’s manipulation was not an act o passion, or desires just sheer, transparent ambition.
I'm not sure it did Cindy much good (I know ‘that” physical injury sparked her addiction supposedly, but it seems a likely cover up to take the guilt of Mr. McHero “insensitive” treatment, perhaps. Her Stepford wife quality really makes one wonder how badly she was hurt to be forced to serve as his career doormat.
Clearly I think we cannot call McCain an oversexed romantic- more likely an evil manipulative career obsessed monster.
Thiink about it - maybe some of you high minded conervatives should go drown your self in atonement in your local coutnrry club water hazzard - hypocrits and liers to the end.

Posted by: luxlumona | August 11, 2008 9:11 PM


we prop up an evil dictator, by spending


$760,000,000 [ seven hundred and sixty MILLION $DOLLARS$ a day ] on an occupation that will make some oil execs and war profiteers very wealthy

and will pay the AMERICAN PEOPLE JACK SH*T

W.T.F. AMERICANS, cut off the welfare already....


let cheenie, gonzales, karl, scrotumous LIbby, georgie, donnie and condosleezie... give back all duh money and just back away from the cash register slowly....


have them actually attempt to get jobs without someone having to die for them to be paid....

how're the VETS doing ???

if it were up to them the shyytehouse, would have some strange fruit hanging on the shyyte house lawn...

.

Posted by: jeeeeeeeeeeeeezeus.....an original prophet of your fxxxing doom.... | August 11, 2008 9:12 PM

I don’t see why yhis should hurt Edwards career. A tawdrier version of the same kind of behavior helped John McCain immeasurably.
By dumping the dumpy first wife, and obtaining a rich Trophy wife- it gave him money, and social positioning among the country and yacht club republicans.
McCain’s manipulation was not an act o passion, or desires just sheer, transparent ambition.
I'm not sure it did Cindy much good (I know ‘that” physical injury sparked her addiction supposedly, but it seems a likely cover up to take the guilt of Mr. McHero “insensitive” treatment, perhaps. Her Stepford wife quality really makes one wonder how badly she was hurt to be forced to serve as his career doormat.
Clearly I think we cannot call McCain an oversexed romantic- more likely an evil manipulative career obsessed monster.
Thiink about it - maybe some of you high minded conervatives should go drown your self in atonement in your local coutnrry club water hazzard - hypocrits and liers to the end.

Posted by: luxlumona | August 11, 2008 9:14 PM

Edwards is scum. Not because he cheated on his wife. Who cares? He is scum because he defines hypocrisy. He votes for the war then is a "champion" to get out. He has "fire in his belly" to help the poor, but never does any pro bono work and builds a 28,000 square foot mansion. He is brokered by the trial lawyer PAC. You know, trial lawyers, as selfless as Mother Theresa.

I just hope he is gone for good. He really makes me ill.

The Democratic party is so much better off without him.

Posted by: PeteGio | August 11, 2008 9:16 PM

There are some things that one should lie about and this is one of them. Edwards, Clinton and especially Larry Craig and every one else who indulges in such tawdry behavior should have the decency to conceal it and spare us all the unpleasant image of their over-the-hill bodies canoodling in the night with some inappropriate paramour. If they can no longer deny it, they should refuse to discuss it and tell the so called journalists who are hounding them that is is none of their f-ing business.

Posted by: mika4 | August 11, 2008 9:17 PM

Now that we know Edwards has been lying about his affair, don't you regret his dropping out of the presidency race.
Pity, He surely has got what it takes to be President after Clinton and Bush.

Posted by: Neil | August 11, 2008 9:20 PM

I think that Edwards is basically a good man who made a human, but very stupid mistake. He told his wife about it two years ago, and she agreed that it shouldn't be made public. She also knew about it when he was campaigning. This (just like Clinton's indiscretions) should be a matter for the family, not all the rest of us. As for lying about it, again, he's human, and hoping to do damage control. We really need to stop wasting time harping about the candidates' morals (they're not for you or me to judge anyway), and begin to have clear, rational debate about the issues. To do that, though, we as a people need to read and educate ourselves about the issues that really matter, and what the candidates say about them. Let's stop wasting time worrying about what goes on in other peoples' bedrooms, take care of our own actions, and pay attention to what really matters.

Posted by: Mike | August 11, 2008 9:22 PM

THE HEAD THEIF,

the bugger'nthief...


carries his own soap....


he calls it "9/11"


he throws it out there....

.and asks AMERICA to "pick it up,"


when he throws it down....


he's a perp.

.

and you all are the victims....along with over a million murdered IRAQIs

can you hear me Claire??? wassa mattah u?


.

Posted by: diffident voices of wisdome... | August 11, 2008 9:22 PM

I have read comments that people's private lives are their own business and doesn't have anything to do with public service. My opinion is that people's private lives have everything to do with public service and especially a candidate running for President of the United States of America. Their private lives cannot be separated from their morality and character. They are what they are!! We don't need leaders who are not moral, honest, or do not have integrity. You cannot tell me there aren't leaders in this country who qualify. We just need to get them on the ballot. When Governor Romney was passed over as a presidential candidate, this country lost. He has had only one wife, has not had any extramarital affairs, is honest, has integrity, has a moral character, and is qualified to lead our great country. Do the people of this country not see the devastating effects of immoral leaders?

Posted by: Ermelda | August 11, 2008 9:30 PM

I really don't care what a person's morality is within the confines of his own private life. Who are we to know all of the nuances and details, anyway? The problem with making moral judgments is that they are based upon your OWN moral imperatives, and who is to say that YOU are right? What matters to me is what a candidate does, and what he says he would do in concrete, definite circumstances. Much of the great polarization in this country comes from the roots sewn by the old Moral Majority (which was neither), who felt that anyone who didn't subscribe to their views was evil and destructive.

Posted by: Mike | August 11, 2008 9:37 PM

People do strange things when they are under a lot of stress and afraid... afraid of losing a loved one. We often reach of for something that will comfort us at a deep level. It is often booze or drugs and those are somewhat accepted, but the need to feel close, valued and safe... we tend to make sex dirty when it is often just a call from love.

Give the man a break and move on, there are far more important things to talk about.

Kindly,
Allan Hunkin
Speaker, Writer, Broadcaster
http://www.successtalk.com/hunkin

Posted by: Allan Hunkin | August 11, 2008 9:40 PM

> Democratic presidents and candidates have long enjoyed a pass from mainstream media when it comes to affairs--JFK, Clinton and now Edwards, to hit some high spots.

I take it you don't know about McCain's affair, right? It certainly hasn't been reported and I'd call that a free pass. McCain got his marriage license for his second wife while still married to his first.

Posted by: Joe | August 11, 2008 9:41 PM

Such a sad situation, always someone wanting to blame some one else. Edwards and his mistress are both punks. Everybody wants to go beyond and talk about McCain and others in the political parties. We are talking about Edwards, not Democrat or Republican. He will continue and so will she. They think they are beyond morals. She is as much to blame as him as she knew the ride before it began and she wished to go all the way, now her name is in the news and she is a someone who has been with a Senator. Sad, so sad.And the media loves it!! I feel sad for Edwards children.

Posted by: Joy | August 11, 2008 9:45 PM

("Jeb") Bush

After graduating from Texas University, Jeb Bush served a short apprenticeship at the Venezuelan branch of Texas Commerce Bank in Caracas before settling in Miami, in 1980, to work on his father's unsuccessful primary bid against Ronald Reagan. Campaigning for Dad was hardly a paying job. But Jeb was about to learn that being one of George Bush's sons means never having to circulate a résumé.

In the next few years, financial support flowed to Jeb through Miami's right-wing Cuban community. Republican party politics and a series of business scandals -- including Medicaid fraud and shady S&L deals -- were inextricably intertwined. A former federal prosecutor told MJ that, when he looked into Jeb's lucrative business dealings with a now-fugitive Cuban, he considered two possibilities -- Jeb was either crooked or stupid. At the time, he concluded Jeb was merely stupid.

Jeb and Armando Codina
Shortly after arriving in Miami, Jeb was hired by Cuban-American developer Armando Codina to work at his Miami development company as an agent leasing office space. A couple of years later, Jeb and Codina became business partners, and in 1985 they purchased an office building in a deal partly financed by a savings and loan that later failed.

The $4.56 million loan, from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida, was granted in such a way that neither Codina's nor Bush's name appeared on the loan papers as the borrowers. A third man, J. Edward Houston, borrowed the $4.56 million from Broward and then re-lent it to the Bush partnership. When federal regulators closed Broward Savings in 1988, they found the loan, which had been secured by the Bush partnership, in default.

As Jeb's father was finishing his second term as vice-president and running for the presidency, federal regulators had two options: to get Jeb Bush and his partner to repay the loan, or to foreclose on their office building. But regulators came up with a third solution. After reappraising the building, regulators decided it wasn't worth as much as was owed for it. The regulators reduced the amount owed by Bush and his partner from $4.56 million to just $500,000. The pair paid that amount and were allowed to keep their office building. Taxpayers picked up the tab for the unpaid $4 million.


and you're still doing it.

you're all so easily led by emotion that logic doesn't have any effect on you....


just jingles and jingoism and laa dee daa dee daa...


you dance around like little monkeys and take your turns throwing fruit...

how about ability?????


do you ask your accountant if he sleeps with other women besides his wife ????


no, you ask him if he can do the job and provide you references...


not to let McCain off of the hook, he's a brain damaged panderer to big money who wants the same_old_same_old to go on infinitum...


wassa mattah claire, you feeling poisonous????


come to the table honker, I give you a little something to honk about...

.

Posted by: tesseracts of love....booyah.... | August 11, 2008 9:47 PM


who is head of DHS ????


Michael Chertoff.

who is he ???


search on MICHAEL CHERTOFF, Green QUEST...

he obstructed the search for the funders of 9/11....


before that he was a REPUBLICAN hassler of Clintons as the "whitewater prosecutor,"


what do he and Ken Starr have in common ??

they represent bushCO and CRONYs...


not AMERICA....get a clue.

they still haven't let the blacks back in, that they evacutated after Katrina.... they default on taxes, their property gets sold to

bushCO and CRONYs developers.....140,000 DEMOCRATS leave New Orleans....and some fat white guys get some prime realestate for nothing...


......

Posted by: look around you ignorant people..... | August 11, 2008 9:49 PM

hey, it's all very nice that they are buffoons... bush and frens'


but they are getting paid to be buffoons...rather large amounts....

as your jobs go overseas, and bushCO and CRONYs money launder drug money through sub prime....and you pay for that too...

take these "sticks of wood," from the french...

and break them in two....

Posted by: tell tale signs of erosion of moral value.... | August 11, 2008 9:51 PM

http://www.turkishweekly.net/comments.php?id=1985

Iraq of Bush and Cheney

by a Turk, Abdel Wahab Badrakhan


Tuesday , 21 March 2006


On the third anniversary marking the start of War on Iraq, and after all what happened since the occupation, it is yet to be known if another people is willing to hand in its fate to the US soliciting liberation from a blood-thirsty dictator, only to cast it into the mazes of a fierce civil war. It is true that the sway of Saddam's governance created an apparent "stability," a seemingly "unified" country, as well as a people more incline to "secular" behavior, also apparently.

However, the architects of the invasion and occupation considered the possibility of using "the positive fundamentals" of the previous regime; they rather relied thereon as encouraging elements for war.

Once the invaders arrived to Baghdad and overthrew the regime and its statues, they started to destroy everything, the State, the Army, and the institutions (except for the part related to oil).

The occupation authority ended up standing on the ruins of a country, to the extend of uprooting police centers even in regions where it was not even present.

There was no one left to call in case of emergency.


this is what the world sees, a bushCO und CRONERStag


_________O_C_C_U_P_A_T_I_O_N___________

Posted by: gasp....................... | August 11, 2008 9:52 PM

Hi folks; Guess what? No on really cares
very much about this story. Sure, its fun to dis another lying politico, but they are all smarmy liars, right? I mean, let he who has never wanted to bed some sweet young lady who he is not married to, cast the first aspersion. Both men and women like to do the nasty with a new partner now and then, and that is the way it will always be. This is a non-story. I've just downloaded some videos from the Georgian War, and it is a really viciously ugly little tragedy. The US Bush-men strung these poor fools in Georgia along, letting them think that the good old USA will help them if the Russkies
decide to whack them, and - whoops - actually - "hey, we lied...ha ha ha.. Now, go die." Premier Kissoff (aka Put-in), can now go on a bloody purge and all the Bushmen can do is throw words at him. And of course, it is the poor bloody civilians that suffer, as their lives and property are destroyed. What a freaking farce!
And the USA, that great beacon of democracy, spends its media time trying to figure out who is hiding the salami in the halls of power...
Does tart-humping really matter anymore?
I was so naive. I just never thought the 21st
century would stink this badly. The US failure in Iraq now means that there is absolutely zero that the Yanker military can do to help the poor, stupid Georgians, and so another neat little democratic experiment will be ground under the Russian boot-heel. This is a sad outcome, and it will end up costing all of us, in the nasty, violent future that we are so quickly navigating towards.
But I can say with some certainty, that whether some dumb-arsed Yanker politico was having it off with someone who was not his wife, will have absolutely zero impact on anything at all - except maybe the comedy writers, I guess...
Leno and Letterman might get some mileage from this Edwards guy, at least. But for most of us, it is another data-deflecting non-story, trumped up by the media folks who just love it when they can pontificate and moralize - instead of actually going out and researching a real story.
- Rus.

Posted by: Rus Future | August 11, 2008 10:16 PM

theres a lot of talk on this site.but I see no walk

Posted by: A -vet | August 11, 2008 10:17 PM

I agree,

of course you also realize that if bush Company and CRONIES weren't busy

raping the people of IRAQ, and trying to incite an attack on IRAN to take their oil out of the party...

RUSSIA might not feel like that they could do the same to GEORGIA....


bush is a homosexuah on the take, and presents no threat to their homosexuah PUTTIE PUUT boss man....


it's a Turkish shower and George W. and Vladamir are just taking advantage of their position on the


pecking orderof things...


could be some bad news for Putin in about 3.5 weeks having to do with personal tragedy....


oh well.


.

Posted by: Das Future | August 11, 2008 10:33 PM

So Walk . . don't complain.

Posted by: Mike | August 11, 2008 10:36 PM

Mike


the views "abscribed to" are propaganda positions and the fact that you take them personally says that they work...


SEARCH on GOEBBELS, Rove and read a few articles....


oh and

SEARCH on NAZIS, Republicans, Bush


the origins of the CIA include nazi propagandists some of whom were later invited into the Republican Party to teach them about controlling the people with

words, und stupit making

look how vell dey hev suck ceeded? jahvohl.

Posted by: actually | August 11, 2008 10:52 PM

my point, this bush government is more than corrupt-its out right criminal.where to from this point?

Posted by: A- vet | August 11, 2008 10:58 PM

A-vet,
You'll get no disagreement from me . . . my favorite bumper sticker is one that says "Quick, someone give Bush a BJ so we can impeach him."

Posted by: Mike | August 11, 2008 11:02 PM

My question: will JE do the right thing and marry his "baby mama" after Elizabeth dies?

Posted by: bkl | August 11, 2008 11:09 PM

what to do?

well it's happening.


most of the rest of the world are backing away from bush and friends like they have AIDs.....


what is required now is that someone be placed in the presidency that can name names and take down addresses...


or Congress could do it.


Bush and his will be sued into oblivion and face criminal charges.

ideally, someone would charge him before the end of his presidency in order to prevent him from using the veto.


there are several plans in the work....bush is a lightweight , you have to wonder if his own cronies would let him walk around free with all of that information in his brain to tell in some night of drunken remorse...


things happen when you go quail hunting with Dick.


.

Posted by: TO A Vet | August 11, 2008 11:15 PM

real reason to take bush and his cronies to task for their crimes is to


stop the monetary bleeding , paying organizations that produce little or nothing except graft, influence peddling and profiteering...


how much has been built or rebuilt in IRAQ?


JACKSXXX is what I've been hearing...


Paul Bremer gave away $12 BILLION IN CASH IN OFF THE RECORD, UNTRACKED BRIBES...


wonder how the United States' INFRASTRUCTURE would look with 9 TRILLION SPENT ON IT?????


we'd probably have a healthy economy, now we have former lawyers and war profiteers with offshore accounts richer than the prince in Brunei or Dubai....


all of that money siphoned out of the United States with songs of false patriotism by a raging hom osexual president who used homosexuality as a tool of demagoguery....


much as J. Edgar Hoover did....Roy Cohn.


prostitutes in power.


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Posted by: the | August 11, 2008 11:31 PM

Republicans have their faults, but there's no avoiding the fact that it's been the Democratic hierarchy who not only can't keep it in their pants but lie and lie and lie to our face about their indiscretions. Believe me, if any of our present and recent past Republicans were doing this, we'd know about it. Nixon? Ford? Reagan? The Bushes? None of the above. And if the Dems consistently lie to us about this, how can we believe anything they tell us?

Posted by: Daddy Tom | August 11, 2008 11:36 PM

Bush and co. lied to us about things that were much more important that "indiscretions." We have over 4000 dead young Americans and Iraqis. Let them lie all they want about their private lives. They need to tell us the truth about issues of national security and financial well-being.

Posted by: Mike | August 11, 2008 11:44 PM

like Daddy Tom has some Crawford Salaami in his pie hole....

and talking with a severely impaired tongue...

but that's noramal for the Gay OLD Party members....that and dancing in lederhosen with naked children...


but we all know that it's old news.


.

Posted by: looks | August 12, 2008 12:20 AM

there are 4 MILLION IRAQIS that have fled the country


and 1.4 MILLION DEAD IRAQIs....


you know kinda like the extermination of the indigenous population of North America....


you know like Buffalo Bill and his friends helped kill all of the Buffalo so that the Indians would starve and their lands could be stolen...

same thing...


30 Year Carbohydrate Law giving rights of a formally NATIONALIZED OIL INDUSTRY to western BIG OIL COMPANIES...


like Ecuador, Mexico, Venezuela and others....despoiled by the predatory lending practices of the World Bank


Paul Wolfowitz and his ilk...


oh, sorry, you were just talking about "appeal to emotion," and who's pretty and has sex appeal


facts elude you all.....you all jess little children that kaint hold ontoa idea.


sorrwy


booo hoo

.


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Posted by: actually | August 12, 2008 12:25 AM

sucking down salaami in the White House like Monica Lewinsky for the past


8 years....Jeff Gannon say he's quick...


where dat news wha' boyz????


you sick?


comone

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Posted by: George Bush been | August 12, 2008 12:27 AM

As a resident of NC, and a current breast cancer survivor, my heart aches for Elizabeth Edwards. As a former supporter of JE, words cannot begin to convey how absolutely disgusted with his actions that I am. All I can say is that Rielle must have been phenomenally talented in the bedroom because everyone can easily see that he didn't sleep with her for her looks. His wife Elizabeth is beautiful inside and out, and she certainly doesn't deserve what he has put her through. I agree that he probably only recently confessed his liaison to his wife. Why? Probably because he got caught with his pants down and could no longer continue the facade that he had not cheated. As far as him taking a DNA test to disprove paternity, why is Ms. Hunter so opposed to the idea? Obviously she has something to hide. Rielle has indicated that she doesn't want to put her child through a DNA test. Why, is it too traumatic getting her cheek swabbed with a q-tip? He is so low that I wouldn't even describe him as pond scum. He is the bacteria that feeds off the algae on the pond scum. My opinion, John Edwards go back under the rock from which you slithered. The American people don't need you and NC certainly doesn't want you! That being said, let it be noted that I am a democrat; however, it will be a cold day in hell before I vote to put a man in office who refuses to salute the American flag or recite the pledge of allegiance. Although that certainly is his American right not to do those things (we are the land of the free)- as President one would think that demonstrating patriotism to serve as an example for others would be an absolute must. Patriotism means a great deal to many Americans. It is the driving force of who we are and where we come from. It is a powerful reminder of our greatness and the sacrifices our fathers made to make this a great nation. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being wary of any man or a woman who desires to be the head leader of this country but deliberately strays from any sense of patriotism and a great many of our American traditions. As far as I am concerned - O'bama should join his scumbag comrade - John Edwards and give up any hope of running this country. Go McCain!

Posted by: Cyndimed | August 12, 2008 1:49 AM

Jonathan Darman is the biggest dweeb of all, for using Ms. Hunter for his personal professional gain. He is the most despicable of all, not Ms. Hunter, who is merely delusional and desperate.

Posted by: J Harlin | August 12, 2008 1:53 AM

Kay Day, my Mother married a Day so let's don't get started!!!

We don't hear much about Jeff Gannon's white house visits---

Nute,Barr,and the Speaker from La,had a woman on the side while trying to impeach Clinton---
nd McBush did the same thing too!!

Posted by: MtnMan | August 12, 2008 6:43 AM

Actually Just me, Pat Tillman died in Afganistan. You know the war Obama wants to escalate.

Posted by: RobT1 | August 12, 2008 8:15 AM

I have heard that Obama camp strongarmed Edwards with exposure if he didn't throw his support behind Obama. Also heard that they were strongarming superdelegates. Not surprising as this is the way the Chicago political machine works.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 8:58 AM

i have to agree with some of these posts here. there are people on BOTH SIDES of the aisle that are guilty which only makes them as human as the rest of us right here, right now. if john edwards had come forward when he confessed his affair to his family and staff then we wouldn't be dealing with the crap that will probably destroy his career. he isn't any different than the rest of us at a time of weakness with a partner willing to participate at that moment in time. one thing i would love to know is would he do it again if given the opportunity? and how long did this last?
my gut tells me that even though he is willing to give a sample for testing doesn't mean he isn't the child's father...because she won't submit her daughter for testing.

Posted by: hemnebob | August 12, 2008 9:40 AM

Yeah he is not the father - RIGHT - wonder how much he paid her NOT to have a paternity test while he sits there and says he wants a paternity test. How stupid does he think the public is????? What a super egotistical jerk he is. And the fact that he is paying off Young while his mistress and love child live with them is totally disgusting. He is a moron

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 10:36 AM

Nice going by the WaPo investigations unit if you weren't 11 months late, kinda like your last drawn out investigation that took 13 days of on the front page and broke no news. Hire new investigators.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 1:07 PM

The biggest loser after Elizabeth Edwards in this John Edwards affair is JOHN McCAIN.
It brings to light now what everyone was afraid to talk about- his playboy life and infidelities-
Cheating on his wife Carol with many mistresses and eventually abandoning her for a newer, prettier, richer and more connected version when she needed him most. A woman who in her deepest despair put him first by not letting him know of her accident, lest he worry about her. What a pay back she got!!! Forced to accept a divorce in order to have her medical bills paid for by her "loving" John.

Posted by: S | August 12, 2008 2:51 PM

Another opportunity for the media to "showboat" the moral decline of a once great Nation. If this type of lifestyle continues , we will be known as the modern day Rome of the World. Remember what happened to them?

Posted by: PTD | August 12, 2008 3:59 PM

Politicians all do the same no matter what party they are from. First they deny any wrong-doing. Then they admit to a "mistake in judgement". Then they apologize. Then they continue doing it all over again until the next time they get caught. This is the Bill Clinton school of "Screw you I'll do whatever I want"! Why is anyone surprised over this? We rewarded Bill for "Not having sex with that women". The public worships these guys and women can't get enough of the power trip. This is the true morally bankrupt American citizen. We have taught our children that there are no such things as morals. Wait until you see what the future brings!!! God help us all.

Posted by: Noel Surprise | August 12, 2008 4:11 PM


Anyomous: Right on! Hypocrites

The biggest loser after Elizabeth Edwards in this John Edwards affair is JOHN McCAIN.
It brings to light now what everyone was afraid to talk about- his playboy life and infidelities-
Cheating on his wife Carol with many mistresses and eventually abandoning her for a newer, prettier, richer and more connected version when she needed him most. A woman who in her deepest despair put him first by not letting him know of her accident, lest he worry about her. What a pay back she got!!! Forced to accept a divorce in order to have her medical bills paid for by her "loving" John.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 6:57 PM

Question I'm musing about: is it better, morally and politically, when you've cheated on your wife to a)stay with her (Clinton Edwards, Jackson), or b)divorce your wife and marry your mistress (McCain, Guiliani, Gingrich)?

Obviously, McCain's mistress-now-wife was an heiress to a $100M fortune, so that may have skewed McCain's thinking, especially when you consider how much money means to political viability these days. Assuming that the financial aspects in such a situation are a wash, which option appears better?

Posted by: billp | August 12, 2008 11:42 PM

JOHN EDWARDS IS 'SORRY' HE GOT CAUGHT. LIF HIS AFFIAR WAS OVER IN 2006 WHAT WAS HE DOING VISITING HER AT THE BEVERLY HILLS HILTON IN 2008? HE IS A SCUMBAG. TOO BD HE'S NOT THE ONE WITH THE CANCER. HE IS SUCH A FREEKING LIAR WITH HIS $400 HAIRCUTS AND COMPARING HIMSELF TO A KEN DOLL... GIVE ME A BREAK... HE IS DISGUSTING

Posted by: Lisa | August 13, 2008 12:13 PM

This guy is one of the lowest creatures on earth, cheating on his sick wife and lying about it to the public. 99% truth is not good enough "John Boy".... get "over yourself". You may think that every woman wants you, but you sure picked a dog to have an affair with. Go back to chasin ambulances you crook, cheat, liar and poor excuse for a man.

Posted by: Leo | August 13, 2008 12:18 PM

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