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No Kidding Aside for the Edwards Affair

POSTED: 05:19 PM ET, 08/12/2008 by Derek Kravitz

It seems like the ongoing saga over former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) and his extramarital affair with a campaign staffer has taken yet another turn -- toward the humorous.

Sarah Miller of The Los Angeles Times jokingly blames herself for Edwards's affair, saying an odd commonality between her and Edwards's mistress, Rielle Hunter, could have led to the now-infamous relationship.

One notable highlight from Miller's story: At a party a few years ago, Hunter purportedly told Miller, "I am going to be famous. Rich and famous. I am going to meet a rich, powerful man."

The Post's Ruth Marcus also has a bit of fun with it, ridiculing the one-time presidential candidate's use of the phrase "99 percent honest."

In an interview with ABC News, Edwards said he consistenly denied tabloid stories about his affair because they weren't completely true: "Being 99 percent honest is no longer enough."

"He was once derided as the Breck girl," Marcus writes. "Now it turns out we're talking Ivory soap, 99 and 44/100ths percent pure."

The Nation's Katha Pollit writes that while she supported Edwards (he "talked seriously about inequality," she says), she "never liked him."

"So now we know," Pollit writes. "John Edwards did have sex with that woman, Rielle Hunter, just as the National Enquirer said. So much for all those jokes about Bat Boy and Hillary's alien baby."

Even the rather staid Chronicle for Higher Education is having fun at Edwards's expense. The title of its blog item about the former senator's visit to a Massachusetts college? "Salem State College Lecture Could Be an Affair to Remember"

(Thanks to our astute readers for pointing out the correct location of Salem State.)

By Derek Kravitz |  August 12, 2008; 5:19 PM ET
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Salem State College is in Massachusetts, not Oregon.

Posted by: LB | August 12, 2008 6:03 PM

Hunter was gold digging for a rich and famous man. This woman who reminds me of Linda Tripp has a lot of cojones. She is not, I repeat not pretty to look at. Edwards is tasteless as far as this woman in concerned.

Posted by: truth1 | August 12, 2008 6:13 PM

Actually tasteless from a man's point of view. Ultimate power ultimately corrupts, or something like that.

Posted by: CJ | August 12, 2008 6:26 PM


Edwards was had. no doubt, still no matter how tempting a woman can be you can still keep it in your pants especially when you're married and you're running for President at the time. The infidelity, to me as a voter, is not so important as engaging in the affair during his campaign rather than before. his affair decision is a train wreck not just a mistake.
i know the type of woman, and they can sometimes be hard to spot when offering sex, and she makes her self clear when she says "I am going to be famous. Rich and famous. I am going to meet a rich, powerful man."
Another Bonnie Lee Bakley. she kept getting involved with anybody connected to show business including Marlon Brando's son until she hit pay dirt with Robert Blake. Guys, some of the women out there just aren't worth it!

Posted by: happens all the time | August 12, 2008 6:28 PM

John Edwards is a phony? So who's surprised

Posted by: PL | August 12, 2008 6:31 PM

Lord Acton - "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

Posted by: JD | August 12, 2008 6:31 PM

Edwards would have been wise to wear a rubber

Posted by: Dud | August 12, 2008 6:36 PM

"The Lord has forgiven him." God talks to him. How can you fault such a holy man?
We could have been saddled with this saint in the White House.Haven't we made this mistake before?

Posted by: Jackie | August 12, 2008 6:42 PM

Another stupid man looses his head over a piece of tail.

Posted by: jb | August 12, 2008 6:46 PM

What astounds me is not only Edwards' lack of contrition but that he still thought, even after having an extra-marital affair, that it was appropriate and realistic for him to run for President. I have 2 words for him: Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Lauri | August 12, 2008 6:47 PM

The entire Edwards affair does not deserve print time.

All DEMOCRATS should be extremely happy that EDWARDS had an affair with a woman, not a man, as REPUBLICANS did.

END OF STORY.

Posted by: WALTER | August 12, 2008 6:54 PM

I think he did it to prove he isn't gay to Ann Coulter.

Posted by: disinterested reader | August 12, 2008 7:00 PM

Why is this section called "Investigations" and not "Tabloid News"?

Posted by: Dawny Chambers | August 12, 2008 7:05 PM

Wait for the movie

Posted by: Patty | August 12, 2008 7:07 PM

So, who really believes that John Edwards is not the father of that child? What are the chances that Ms. Hunter would have an affair with Mr. Edwards aide and he would father that child. Sure, he volunteered to take a paternity test but he knew that she would not consent to allow the child to be tested.

Will the Post follow up on the more serious issues? Was she paid off? If so, where did the money come from? Was any of it campaign funds? Were there any laws broken? Follow the money!

Posted by: Buccojoe | August 12, 2008 7:08 PM

Walter,

You mean like that REPUBLICAN Jim McGreevey?

Gotcha. Great point, Walter!

/sarc

Posted by: Mr Jaggers | August 12, 2008 7:11 PM

John McCain, John Edwards, Bill Clinton, Rudy Guliani... the list goes on and on. Powerful men attract women and sometimes stray, this is nothing new in American politics, crosses party lines, and likely will continue. That's life. And really, what they do in their bedroom is not our business and not real news. I'm more interested in how they run our country, I'll take a cheatin' president that can run our government well over the current one any day, who flounders around with his words and foreign policy, and has given us the largest, most powerful and most expensive federal government in US history.

Posted by: dh | August 12, 2008 7:16 PM

I ask you to consider this question?
Has John Edwards affair made your life any worse off or better because of it? What does any part of what he does do with you?

Posted by: antiebabs@aol.com | August 12, 2008 7:20 PM

At least he could have cheated on someone better looking than a dog. Ms. Edwards' is much prettier than Ms. Hunter.

Posted by: Julie in Georgia | August 12, 2008 7:24 PM

What's with these people!? The Democrats have affairs with less-attractive women while the Republicans do anonymous gay things in airport bathrooms.

Can't they act like normal people?

At least McCain had sense enough to have an affair with a millionaire and later to marry her, even if he did get the marriage license for Cindy McCain while still married to (and cheating on) his first wife.

Without her money, he wouldn't be where he is today.

Posted by: Joe | August 12, 2008 7:28 PM

But, but, but, wasn't Edwards more "electable" than Obama?

Posted by: Joe Hannes III | August 12, 2008 7:28 PM

Why do you continue to post non-stories like this?

or

Where is the follow-up on the affairs of David Vitter (still a Senator), Larry Craig (still a Senator), John McCain, etc?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 7:29 PM

I agree - I was disappointed but I would take John Edwards over George Bush any day of the week.

Posted by: Marc from San Diego | August 12, 2008 7:30 PM

Here is what I don't get: So here is this "couple" in middle-age -- to advanced middle age. Edwards says the affair was short, yet it seems like a child may have been conceived in a short time.

I know a little something about fertility in middle age--I can see how two 18 year olds can conceive during a short affair. I don't quite see how this might happen with people of Edwards' and Hunter's age.

Let's review: Hunter was a serious party girl--but she apparently knew how to remain childless--"if she wanted to!!"

(And--no condom??????) Edwards risks his wife's health with unprotected sex? If a no condom policy had been the former party girl's way of doing business, you'd think she would have contracted an STD or two, maybe enough to frustrate fertility at an advanced age. Or if a condom was used, did Hunter fish it and its contents out of trash later on and stick it in the freezer for use later?

What's been made public about the story is just too much, but I am guessing there is still A LOT more to it!

Finally, even if no paternity test is done now, tell me that the kid isn't eventually going to bear some kind of resemblance to whomever is the father. Unless in good 'ole so. cal, they kid gets to meet up with plastic surgeons at an early age.

Posted by: beth | August 12, 2008 7:41 PM

For all you clowns who think the "other presidents do it" excuse is a valid justification for Edwards behavior, how do you propose justifying his lying? Oh, that's Ok, too? If both of those things are Ok, is it Ok if a conservative politician does the same?

Posted by: me | August 12, 2008 7:41 PM

Ever see Absence of Malice? Paul Newman sets up the press, knowing it cannot resist a good story; How about this? Hunter has herself artificially inseminated using the sperm of her old friend, and moves in with him and his family temporarily, then makes herself look as guilty as possible with moves to Santa Barbara and money from the attorney. When it is felt the press has slandered and libeled them sufficiently they come out with the truth and spring the trap. They would OWN the media when they got done. Or they really are as dumb as they appear. Is he really dumb enough to pork this woman with her past, running for president, married, and his wife sick with terminal cancer? Great judgement Edwards!!

Posted by: max | August 12, 2008 7:47 PM

No doubt Walter!.....at least McGreevy had the decency to resign-- who knows how many Tom, Dick and Harry's are waiting to be accosted in airport men's rooms by STILL Senator Larry Craig-- the repugicans STILL want to caucus with him though . Hey, the scandal list is long on BOTH sides of the aisle, but it is clear that under the rule of Bush, there's no contest: Tom Delay...Mark Foley...Duke Cunningham....Rick Renzi...Bob Ney...and umm Ted stevens.

Posted by: pax vobiscum | August 12, 2008 7:48 PM

Actually I'm more concerned that the Post didn't take the time to check on the location of Salem State College. Maybe you'd better begin your Investigations a little closer to the editing desk.

Posted by: Molly | August 12, 2008 7:49 PM

Yes, please investigative journalists outthere- follow the money. Too many questions still dangling re campaign funds directed to an unqualified videographer, his preposterous claim that he's had no awareness of all these payouts. The sex part is not my concern, it's the bad judgement and dishonest behaviour. I hope there's a federal probe. It seems his behaviour w/funds has been illegal. Gee I wish he'd give me a refund. I supported him enthusiastically and contributed whatever I could from my modest salary. And this so-called champion of the poor was squandering money and time on all this deceitful behavior. And the arrogance of his Friday night interview- so staged and insulting to our intelligence.

Posted by: yjohnson | August 12, 2008 7:53 PM

Well really, thanks to Rielle she is almost 100% wrong in her predictions. She is not going to marry a powerful man although he was almost one when she met him and he is going to be half as rich as he was if he leaves his wife to marry her. It is lose, lose for both Edwards and Rielle and it couldn't happen to a more deserving couple. They get each other or do they.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 7:55 PM

Doesn't he have enough money for hookers?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 7:56 PM

I'm trying to get the jokes, but something is missing.

Posted by: jhbyer | August 12, 2008 7:57 PM

The Gay Old wing of the Republican party is the most powerful and most secretive organization in the world. They have so much power, they manage to suppress the news cycle of their shenanigans whenever it breaks the surface of the public awareness. We've had gay reporters with preferred White House access, gay teen sex rings with preferred White House access, including private tours in the middle of the night, gay sex scandals involving congressmen and senators galore, and STILL the simple fact that these people all know each other and push for promotions inside their clique never comes to the light. It is a simple fact, many of the most powerful Republicans are closet gays, and they are in those positions of power BECAUSE they are inside this gay power clique. Which group, ironically, often feeds the anti gay sentiment of the party, because they realize exactly how deep and powerful this theme is across the Republican base. The whole thing is astonishing to me, and it is even more astonishing that not one "reporter" in the US will even try to put the pieces together, even when it has become glaringly obvious as to what is going on. I guess every one of them are cowards who figure they'll be out in the cold if they do report on what group is actually the power behind the thrones.

Posted by: PD | August 12, 2008 8:11 PM

Oh, and I forgot famous...she is not famous she is notorious and there is a big difference. The affair pushed John Edwards from the famous column to the notorious page also. Men, women-epecially women who pursue rich, powerful, famous men-talk. That's the point...to brag to their friends and feel superior at the class reunion. Usually the only talent these women have to be successful is to act the geisha (with apologies to geishas who at least spend years learning the art) And getting pregnant is the oldest trick in the book and the man who lets it happen is both an idiot and a fool and that's the truth.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 8:21 PM

All you Democrats who keep making the gay accusations against the Republicans in a derisive way have seemed to miss the point that gays in general have thought that they could be a welcome group in the Democrat party and that it is the blue-nosed Republicans who look down on them. Hillary is supported by gays. I read Republican threads all the time and they do not make fun of gays the way you people do.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 8:26 PM

I can't believe we all have nothing better to do than getting wrapped around the axel over another lying cheating politician. Perhaps the first disqualifier of any presidential candidate should be the fact that they aspire to the presidency.

Posted by: Mark VB | August 12, 2008 8:28 PM

Salem State College is in Massachusetts, not Oregon. It's actually quite fitting that the Edwards selected Salem for their paid speaking engagement. Salem is the home town of Nathaniel Hawthorne, the author of "The Scarlet Letter". Perhaps John can give his speech while wearing a T-shirt with a large letter A on the front.

Posted by: tarheel | August 12, 2008 8:53 PM

Politicians who engage in infidelity lack character. The American people deserve better.

Posted by: Stealth Chicken | August 12, 2008 8:53 PM

He is not the president,he won't be the president, he won't hold any political office - so, what's the big deal? It's his business what he does. So, leave it alone, move on to more needy things as helping the senior citizens, paying for the injured solider's health issues and helping our veterans coming back from the war, etc. etc.

Posted by: kakki | August 12, 2008 9:05 PM

Edwards for Attorney General or Sec of Labor. It has been proven over and over that a screwed up personal life has nothing to do with how you do your job. He will be a better person now with this humiliation.

Posted by: lynne | August 12, 2008 9:06 PM

the entire group of men seem to be going for new women perhpas thinner and wilder and a bit younger then their wives ...who they dont find attractive enough and are bored with them and look for newnesss excitement ...what is forbiden is always way more attractive.men like to hunt chase...once they marry they look elsewhere....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 12, 2008 9:12 PM

I don't care what happens to John. I feel sorry for his wife. Her last memories on earth will be of her stinking cheating husband. Shame on you John. God will get you!!!!

Posted by: vixie | August 12, 2008 9:14 PM

The problem here is boinking a crack ho (read Hunter's bio if you think this description harsh) and paying her out of campaign funds. Shows incredibly poor judgment, and (unless the fair market value of a few crappy videos is $114,000), could easily be characterized as prostitution and a violation of campaign finance laws. Comparisons to the dalliances of other politicians are singularly inapt.

Posted by: Chuck Cardiff | August 12, 2008 9:16 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder she provided something that was missing in his life. Looks have little to do with emotion between a man and woman. No man takes seriously any woman who loves herself more than anyone else, these "beautiful" women, never marry or are childless, and there is no real purpose in their lives but themselves. This woman has a child, most on here would place money ahead of having children. Those who choose that way of life, will die lonely and alone. Anyone can make money, but the real rich persons in this life, have something more important than money, and that is the opportunity to shape a child's life. She provided him with what he needed at the time, and that is all right with me. Women who use sex as a weapon, only harm themselves. This woman won. I wish her the best of luck. I wish John Edwards the best of luck.

Posted by: Faust100F | August 12, 2008 9:19 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder she provided something that was missing in his life. Looks have little to do with emotion between a man and woman. No man takes seriously any woman who loves herself more than anyone else, these "beautiful" women, never marry or are childless, and there is no real purpose in their lives but themselves. This woman has a child, most on here would place money ahead of having children. Those who choose that way of life, will die lonely and alone. Anyone can make money, but the real rich persons in this life, have something more important than money, and that is the opportunity to shape a child's life. She provided him with what he needed at the time, and that is all right with me. Women who use sex as a weapon, only harm themselves. This woman won. I wish her the best of luck. I wish John Edwards the best of luck.

Posted by: Faust100F | August 12, 2008 9:20 PM

Affairs have been going on forever and will continue forever. This does not deserve an "investigation."

Why don't you investigate something real?

How about the private "Federal" Reserve. You know, the one set up by bankers to enrich themselves. The institution that lets our politicians spend anything they want to, leaving us with the debt. The reason the dollars in our pockets are losing value constantly.

If money is power, there's a huge power grab going on right under our noses.

Investigate that.

Since practically no one even knows the basics, like that it's actually private and not federal, it'll be news to them, right?

Posted by: manda | August 12, 2008 9:25 PM

About ten years ago, a very beautiful and talented young lady from Georgia was removed from her position as a pilot of a strategical bomber. She lied about having casual sex with another pilot in a very remote and folorn place almost in North Pole. Both were single. Just casual boy/girl encounter. To Gen.Shelton, Armed Forces Chief her lie counts because of the supreme importance of her job that requires 100% integrality.(a month later, Shelton admitted his own love affairs). If you think presidency or VPcy is less important than the said pilot position, candidates can safely lie. If equally or more important, candidate's privacy cannot respected totally. We are not allowed to talk about these private matter but last week San Francisco gays were allowed to make open sex in the city street. What and where is privacy?

Posted by: nguyendynasty | August 12, 2008 9:41 PM

a rove production, insurance, so to speak

Posted by: marti wellz | August 12, 2008 9:42 PM

And what about Newt Gingrich, didn't he divorce his wife while she was in the hospital. Can't tell me there was no prior hanky-panky with that one!

Posted by: dg | August 12, 2008 9:52 PM

I like John Edwards. I think he's a good man who made a serious error in judgement. I'm sorry for his family, especially his wife who is ill. No one's perfect. If John's wife can forgive him, then who are we to cast judgement. On the other hand, if he spent taxpapers money on Hunter, that's a different story.

Posted by: Joan | August 12, 2008 9:55 PM

Actually, it's not the sex thing that bothers me most. It's the fact that it seems pretty obvious that Hunter is a manipulative player. Just watch her video "plane truths" which captures her flirting with him.

What concerns me is that if this cheap and transparent person could manipulate him, who might have at him if he held office?? Would the likes of Putin, big business or any other person or entity totally wrap Edwards around their fingers and make him (and us)dance to whatever tune they want to play??

THAT I think is the biggest problem--Edwards is prone to being manipulated.

Here's an aside: Hunter's friends all seem to opine that Hunter is the most honest person they ever met--that she absolutely INSISTS on the truth. Ha Ha. She's been caught in lies. She tells her friends Edwards is the father: She tells the media Young is the father. So much for what ostensibly was her best quality.

Posted by: beth | August 13, 2008 12:12 AM

I knew Edwards was a phony sleeze ball from the get-go! His two Americas' banter and his arrogant, self-aggrandizing and cocky, good ol' southern boy charmer tactics, have parlayed him right where he belongs. He always displayed such an air of elitism while claiming that he was the candidate for the "common" man. Re: $400 hair cuts, for example.
Now people see him for the superficial and lying politician he proved to be!
"I saw it coming."

Posted by: Victor | August 13, 2008 2:12 AM

I knew Edwards was a phony sleaze ball from the get-go! His two Americas' banter and his arrogant, self-aggrandizing and cocky, good ol' southern boy charmer tactics, have parlayed him right where he belongs. He always displayed such an air of elitism while claiming that he was the candidate for the "common" man. Re: $400 hair cuts, for example.
Now people see him for the superficial and lying politician he proved to be!
"I saw it coming."

Posted by: Victor | August 13, 2008 2:20 AM

A multi-millionaire like John Edwards couldn't at least be kind to his wife and buy a $1.95 condom? You know, he could have picked up, and brought home a nasty disease.....and some of them have no cure.
I can't believe how some of the smartest men in the world will fall for airheaded women like Rielle Hunter. A word of advice to men: Don't go having affirs. And if you do, don't go after women who have accomplished nothing in life but the men they bed. They are only after your money!
Rielle now gets to be "kept" in multi-million dollar homes, get provided cars and free healthcare. Was the sex that good that it was worth John Edwards public shame, and his family public humiliation? Methinks not! Another one bites the dust!

Posted by: Sonya | August 13, 2008 4:31 AM

Edwards is being judged too harshly. Unlike Bill Clinton, he was not a serial womanizer. He was not taking advantage of an immature 22 year old intern.

I am also not convinced that Edwards is a narcissist, as he confessed and claimed to be. He is just vain. The REAL narcissist is Rielle Hunter. Clearly this broad lived a life above the rules that constrain the rest of us poor schleps. She partied, indulged in dope and free sex to her hearts content. The fact that she was born to a life of privilege paid for by a rich Dad who made his money collecting the insurance proceeds on the animals he killed and property he burnt down, should not be a surprise. Nor, should Ms. Hunter’s brain storm of an idea for a TV show, which would celebrate the lives of the “other” women who liberate poor law abiding brow beaten married guys into having the courage to break the contraints of their marriage vows. This self obsessed chick even sees herself as a seeker of the truth, who’s mission is to bring others to a higher level of a awareness!

Edwards was vulnerable, although still responsible for his actions. He lost a son, and then devoted time to charities trying to overcome the loss, and then he lost the election last time around when he ran as the Dem VP candidate. And of course this was followed by Elizabeth's tragic bought with cancer. Finally he tried to gain the Dem presidential nomination on behalf of the poor of this country. I think this guy was emotionally exhausted trying to be the perfect husband and human being. Something inside of him wanted to break away and have some fun “me” time. Then who does he have the misfortune to meet? The “me” sex and dope spiritual awareness whole fools expert herself, Rielle.

Yeah, I am truly sorry for John Edwards, and of course his family. He had the sad fate of being liberated from the confines of reality by Rielle. If his political career is wrecked it is sad. But seems to me he was truly unhappy in politics and was running on empty. He had a sense of duty and wanted to do something good in the memory of his lost child. The guy was ripe for self distruction.

I truly hope he and his family recover from this devastating affair.

Posted by: Madeleine | August 13, 2008 9:47 AM

Sad. His wife needed his support (my 50 something wife is in the exact same situation), yet this self centered egocentric has no compassion, except for himself. I know the LORD will regive him, but it will be hard for the rest of us.

Posted by: James | August 13, 2008 9:54 AM

Maybe they should make special prolactives for politicians and celebrities. Such highly prized and esteemed sperm deserves the finest loinery.

So Edwards loved his beautiful wife for 30 years. Should we imagine by his own definition of "love" it's likely he had other affairs? Or was this adulteress (who looked like Camilla Bowles on the one cover) was just way too gorgeous and he just had to indulge for the first time? Maybe if he were to have been president (sure with not ever even carrying NC for vice pres) he would have consulted astrology like others before.

Posted by: luvs | August 13, 2008 10:14 AM

John Edwards was arrogant enough to run for the highest office in the land while commiting adultery in the midst of his wife's terminal cancer diagnosis. Mrs. Edwards shows great character for the guts it took to give this man a second chance. She was responsibly looking to the future of her children in case her cancer overcomes her. John won the lottery when he married Elizabeth. Does no one think of the consequences before removing their pants in this day and age? Rest assured, memories of specifics of affairs may fade over time but one never forgets how it felt to be betrayed by your spouse. Time heals nothing. What happens in time determines the outcome. Does John Edwards have the discipline now to help his family recover, disregarding his political aspirations? As in all affairs, the other woman chose her path, she deserves any and all negative consequences. The only regret; the child she bore will pay the price for years to come regardless of the DNA results.

Posted by: MaryAnn | August 13, 2008 10:19 AM

Personal judgement and character tells much about the political decisions a person would make if he/she were elected to office. This is the reason we have the right to know the truth about John Edward's affair. He choose to have an affair, when there was the possibility of humiliating a loyal, devoted wife as well as his children who have also sacrificed for his political ambitions. Elizabeth Edwards is terminally ill and has spent many of her precious days away from her family campaigning for a husband she believed in. This is the way he thanks her.
There are also many many people who spent hours volunteering to help his campaign. There are many people who donated hard earned money hoping he was the candidate who cared about them. They/we all deserve to know the truth so that we will not be made fools of again.

Posted by: Liz | August 13, 2008 10:30 AM

I AM DISGUSTED. HOW COULD EDWARDS DO THIS? SLEEPING WITH THIS UGLY WOMAN. SLIM PRETTY SUGAR PIMP DADDY SHALL NOT SLEEP WITH FUGLY HO'S.

Posted by: BOBSTER | August 13, 2008 3:01 PM

America has become a nation of hypocrites.
The latest poll says 63% of all married people cheat on their spouses, and the majority of cheater are women.

And who cares. In Europe the story would be on page 41, behind the obits.

Seems that all who reported the Edwards story were women.

How very Objective!!!

Posted by: lbeck | August 13, 2008 4:11 PM

Nobody is talking about Andrew Young, the father of the baby. He has RIGHTS!

Posted by: ddman | August 13, 2008 5:01 PM

First of all, Edwards proved himself to be NO MORE ELECTABLE THAN OBAMA AND CLINTON STARTED OUT. As unelectable as John Edwards is right now, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were that unelectable to begin with.

Wait until the "REAL ATTACKS" against Obama begin in mid-September. He'll sink like a lead pipe.

Secondly, Edwards has welcomed a paternity test.

Hunter refuses to have a paternity test.

There are plenty of reasons why she could have refused to reveal the paternity of the child other than the simplistic view that she "JUST WANTS TO PROTECT EDWARDS."

She may want to damage his marriage, so if the child is his, him not proving it hurts his marriage. She may have loved him, so when he said that he didn''t love her, she could have taken it personally, and doesn''t want to help him at all. There is also the possibility that the child isn''t Edwards'' or Young''s, which would be embarrassing for her and prove that she''s blackmailing these guys for money if she told one of them that it was their''s.

There is also a rumor out there that the child may be IN VITRO. Which would go along with that.

Posted by: framecop | August 13, 2008 6:27 PM

I copied my comment from another site, which changed all of my APOSTROPHES to QUOTATIONS, which p*sses me off.

Posted by: framecop | August 13, 2008 6:29 PM

In response to Posted by: me | August 12, 2008 7:41 PM,

ALL POLITICIANS LIE. I thought most people knew that.

It just so happens that ALMOST ALL POLITICIANS CHEAT ON THEIR SPOUSES, and have always done that, since the beginning of civilization.

Emperors cheated, kings cheated, heck KING DAVID IN THE BIBLE cheated on his wives with another man's wife. Many of the Founding Fathers cheated, especially Thomas Jefferson. Woodrow Wilson, FDR, JFK, Clinton, MLK Jr, Jesse Jackson, etc, etc, etc...ALL CHEATS.

60 percent of married men have or will cheat, and 45-55% of married women will do the same. The rate among wealthy, successful people is even higher, so the odds are that EVERYONE WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT THIS YEAR has cheated before.

If we had a media worth a d**n, they'd talk about how pervasive infidelity is in this country and especially in politics, but of course they don't want to do that, because Edwards was the one they criticized all campaign long (hair, house, hedge fund, bloggers) for things that ALL OTHER CANDIDATES also did, as if that had anything to do with the people who he was speaking on behalf of, so the media's never going to focus on the other candidate's cheating.

PS. GAS PRICES ARE ONLY FALLING BECAUSE AN ELECTION IS APPROACHING.

Posted by: framecop | August 13, 2008 6:40 PM

Why do men with much to lose always have affairs with ugly women? Let's be clear, I in no way endorse or support adultery, but IF you are going to cheat on your wife and put at risk your marriage, family, career, reputation, legacy and maybe untold millions, could you at least, PLEASE, for the rest of us, we of the faithful husbands sect, who are in these times and in others, consistently tasked to explain why men are such dogs, cheat with a woman who is at least marginally attractive?; a 6 on the 1-10 scale. Is that asking too much?

Posted by: West Adams | August 13, 2008 6:44 PM

This is the biggest, MOST RETARDED, lie out there:

"Personal judgement and character tells much about the political decisions a person would make if he/she were elected to office. This is the reason we have the right to know the truth about John Edward's affair..."

NO, LIZ, the only reason you want to know about it is because you are a nosey b****.

The Founding Father's cheated...should we rip up the Constitution?

Thomas Jefferson cheated...should we get rid of the Declaration of Independence?

King David in the Bible cheated...should we rip out the Book of Psalms?

Grover Cleveland supposedly father a love child and served two terms after that...should we erase his Presidency from the history books?

Should we forfeit our victory in WWII, because FDR has MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY affairs?

Those gas prices under Clinton's affairs...$1.39 a gallon, were pretty cheap, even though he was a cheat. Would you rather pay $4/gallon with Bush keeping his in his pants?

JFK was a pretty good President, as was FDR, and Thomas Jefferson was one of the architects of this nation.

People who say that we must know about the indiscretions of politicians because it's an indication of how they'd govern, are just GOSSIP-OBSESSED, NOSEY IDIOTS looking for an excuse to be nosey.

Posted by: framecop | August 13, 2008 6:51 PM

My my framecop, aren't you angry. I'm not saying he is the only person in history to cheat, and I don't want the details. I want to know if he took the money that we hard working people scraped together to send him and paid it to his mistress. Don't we have that right?

Posted by: Liz | August 13, 2008 8:29 PM

I rather have the adulters FDR or JFK or John Edwards as my president than that
none adulterer (as far as we know)
George W. Bush.

Unlike, John McCain, John Edwards, is incredibly good looking. Have you noticed that when the female reporters report on this story they have a smile on thier lips and a twinkle in their eyes? (To be fair, so do some of the men reporters)
I think people hate John Edwards more for
for his good looks than his infidelity.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2008 1:57 AM

The only thing which separates humans from animals is morality and character. I'm so tired of feeling duped by politicians and people getting away with this kind of behavior unscathed and even richer than before. Sure, no one is perfect or immune to temptation, but to try to pass yourself off as a caring, Christian individual to the public while behaving like an animal in your private life is something else. Hunter should feel even more ashamed for her behavior, and if it is determined that she did actually receive money derived from political contributions, I think she should have to pay it all back -- home included -- to ELIZABETH.

Posted by: Katherine | August 14, 2008 1:04 PM

Okay Liz,

Where is your evidence that Edwards authorized and paid hush money to Hunter out of campaign funds, are are you only speculating?

It's amazing that people's logic is that if you lie about one thing, then you must be lying about everything.

Okay, now go and apply that same logic to GWB, who has lied about everything since he's been in the White House...

...OKAY, BAD EXAMPLE. ;-)

Posted by: framecop | August 14, 2008 8:12 PM

Edwards finance chairman has admitted that he paid the money. Lets follow the money to the truth.
And framecop, I am missing your logic on all your examples. And how on earth have you gotten the idea I would defend Bush in any way.

Posted by: Liz | August 14, 2008 9:38 PM

Cheater’s Rap

John Edwards talked about Dad’s mill,
While sleeping with a chick off the pill,
He lied and fibbed to the MS press,
And, awoke early to preen and dress.

His wife, Elizabeth, knew the lie in 2006,
But supported John in Iowa while sick,
They stole Hillary’s honest votes daily,
And laughed on cue, and hiding Rielle.

Why did John lie like a cheatin’ rat ?
No “New Deal” for the average Democrat,
While Obama and Hillary fought on the stump,
John Edwards watched Rielle grow a bump.

Now John’s love child is common news,
And Fred Baron has money to lose,
Rielle, now nursing, has jetted away,
Even Geraldo has joined the fray!

John’s affair has hurt his poor kids,
More than Clinton’s cigars ever did,
A sordid tale that some call a crock,
The only winner, a loser named Barack!

Like dogs in heat, Edwards did pant,
Defined forever, just like Hugh Grant,
Tabloids paid to get the sleaze,
Is it John’s baby, mister please?

Vote for John Edwards, give me chills,
Meet you for sex in Beverly Hills,
John, don’t need to prove you ain’t a gay,
Just pony up to compare your DNA.

See Barack in Hawaii like Bobby Vinton,
Unaware the DNC plans to elect a Clinton,
Edwards may face time from the tax man,
But not if a pardon is part of Obama’s plan.

While Elizabeth cries over her brood,
Baby mama with John was not a prude,
Gone the innocent days of Tom Sawyer,
John gettin’ love like a real trial lawyer

Posted by: Rapper Ray | August 17, 2008 12:59 PM

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