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McCain Campaign Controversy

POSTED: 03:37 PM ET, 08/13/2008 by The Editors

It's been three months since the McCain campaign imposed its no-lobbyist policy, but the candidate's lobbying ties continue to raise questions.

The Post's Matthew Mosk and Jeffrey H. Birnbaum reported today on Sen. John McCain's April phone call to the president of Georgia. McCain was prepped for the call by his top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, whose lobbying firm signed a $200,000 contract with the Georgian government the day of the call.

James Thurber, a lobbying expert at American University, pointed to the potential conflicts: "The question is, who is the client? Is the adviser loyal to income from a foreign client, or to the candidate he is working for now?"

Scheunemann has since separated himself from the company, Orion Strategies.

The story, which has drawn a strong reaction from some readers and bloggers, comes just as the Russia-Georgia conflict becomes a point of debate in the McCain-Obama race.

Meanwhile, a new controversy has come up over whether McCain should back out of a fundraiser scheduled next week in Atlanta with Ralph Reed, whose name surfaced in the investigation of Jack Abramoff. The Reed-Abramoff connection was raised in a 2005 Post story that reported how Abramoff had quietly arranged for a client to pay Reed and other conservative, anti-gambling activists to help in the client's pro-gambling campaign.

By The Editors |  August 13, 2008; 3:37 PM ET
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It must be a slow news day. Since the press doesn't have their rock star Obama to fawn over they figure the can pass the time making lame accusations against McCain.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 3:55 PM

Show me who you are with, John McCain, and I will tell you who you are.

Ralph Reed, the former pretty boy of the Christian Coalition and intern to Jack Abramoff?

It will snow in hell the day we will see this story looped on Fox News.

Posted by: Roy | August 13, 2008 3:55 PM

Lets vote for Ms. Hilton, she won't support any of the over paid under worked folks in Washington who claim to be servents of the people.

Posted by: marvin | August 13, 2008 3:56 PM

"Today, we are all Georgians."

Randy Scheunemann

Posted by: BK | August 13, 2008 3:58 PM

McCain’s presumptuous response to Georgia-Russia conflict reveals that he wants to “out-Bush” Bush himself! It’s a scary thought that this senile is running to become commander-in-chief! He wants to continue “go-alone”-- failed Bush approach. He has neither the right temperament nor sound judgment needed for a world stage issue like this one. He circled himself a neo-con lobbyist cabal with a Mafia-mindset, who advocate for narrow interests. For example, McCain's top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, was until March a registered lobbyist for the Republic of Georgia. His firm continues to work on behalf of Georgia today. In 2006, lobbyist Scheunemann accompanied McCain on a trip to Georgia. And since Friday, McCain and Scheunemann have been issuing bellicose pronouncements on behalf of Georgia [in effect lobbying] in its conflict with Russia over the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia. However neither of them mentioned that Scheunemann was a Georgian lobbyist!

Posted by: Yet another example! | August 13, 2008 4:02 PM

I just cannot see how McCorrupt is allowed to have all the lobbyists, Black and this Randy crook running his campaign. Maybe this will be his waterloo. Can you imagine the brouhaha if Barack had these crooks on his staff???????????? Sure!!!

Posted by: muffy | August 13, 2008 4:05 PM

McCain. I could of told you that. I wonder if McCain is related to the McCain family ghost.?Check out the McCane family Ghost
http://www.mccanes.com/hauntedguide.html

Posted by: John | August 13, 2008 4:06 PM

"The Republican nominee strode to the microphone for the first of several blistering statements condemning Russia's moves, delivering his comments well before President Bush spoke publicly about the incident.

"Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory," he said, interrupted by the sound of jets taking off. "

OK, how come we are not hearing anything about McCain's presumptive BS? Huh? The uppity black man speaks confidently and the morons and media portray him as egotistic and stepping out of his bounds. What? Because McCain is white no one sees this as entirely hypocritical? Pathetic!

Posted by: mjo757 | August 13, 2008 4:08 PM

McCain's entire campaign staff is composed of lobbyists! Thanks WaPo for finally noticing that the "Maverick" is full of it when he talks about ridding Washington of Big Money influence peddling. Scheunemann is perhaps the worst - look at his foreign policy positions! He was one of THE most vocal cheerleaders for this disaster in Iraq and now he is agitating for restarting the Cold War with Russia.

If McCain is listening to this proven idiot then he is also a complete imbecile.

Posted by: maria | August 13, 2008 4:11 PM

McCain claims no lobbyists....
McCain's foreign policy adviser is a lobbyist for Georgia, conflict of interest anyone?
McCain to attend fundraiser with Reed-Abramoff??? conflict of interest?
Exxon John must think Americans are stupid enough to believe his lies.

Obama! Change we can BELIEVE in!

Posted by: Ron | August 13, 2008 4:11 PM

It will be amazing if this story gains traction. It seems that the McCain campaign has effectivly kept potential inflamitory stories out of the media, if not making little issue of any damaging story so that it does not linger.

Oh well............

Posted by: BigB | August 13, 2008 4:13 PM

Ralph Reed has more than a "relationship" with Jack Abramoff.

Either Jack or Grover said of Reed, and I paraphrase:

"He's just like us, only worse."

Why would the Christians follow Reed?

Why would any Republican candidate for anything be seen associating with him?

Watch "Capital Crimes" http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/watch.html

Posted by: Capital Crimes | August 13, 2008 4:14 PM

Americans should be worried about this situation.

We know who's allegeance Randy Scheunemann pledges to; $$$$$$$$.

It is precisely how many other Randy Scheunemanns are there in McCain's camp.

Is there one for each interest, have they gotten where they are because they won the auction for the spot?

If we look back over the past 8 years of Republican policy, few could honestly comment that monied interests have been very satisfied with the actions of their Government.

Few could honestly saw the great majority of Americans received the same value or have the same opinion of the actions of THEIR Government too.

If everyone voting would vote their pocketbook, the Republican Party would cease to exist.

Posted by: wmc418 | August 13, 2008 4:15 PM

Americans should be worried about this situation.

We know who's allegeance Randy Scheunemann pledges to; $$$$$$$$.

It is precisely how many other Randy Scheunemanns are there in McCain's camp.

Is there one for each interest, have they gotten where they are because they won the auction for the spot?

If we look back over the past 8 years of Republican policy, few could honestly comment that monied interests have been very satisfied with the actions of their Government.

Few could honestly saw the great majority of Americans received the same value or have the same opinion of the actions of THEIR Government too.

If everyone voting would vote their pocketbook, the Republican Party would cease to exist.

Posted by: wmc418 | August 13, 2008 4:16 PM

McCain is a 'maverick' hypocrite, a lobbyists' dream. For the longest time, this media darling claimed to be honest, straight-talker, truhtful. Now, we have found out that McCain cheated bigtime so much so that ron & Nancy Reagan stopped talking to McCain, and McCain's 1st wife had to scramble and get a job to support herself & her sons; meanwhile John McCain was schmoozing with the very rich Ms. Hensley. McCain is not only old and senile but he is corrupt.

Posted by: M. Stratas | August 13, 2008 4:16 PM

It must be a slow news day. Since the press doesn't have their rock star Obama to fawn over they figure the can pass the time making lame accusations against McCain.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 3:55 PM
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Oh how the blind are so easily lead.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 4:18 PM

There is no group blinder than the Obamabots.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:21 PM

the bottom line is that teflon john has been given th "i'll turn a blind eye/ear" pass by mainstream media. only keith olbermann msnbc gives the straight skinny on this scary old white haired dude. his misteps down right lies, and senior moments have not been reported fairly by the media. fixed noiseFox news) even ran a picture of him that was 8 yrs old, supposedly talking that same day. if this guy gets elected, which i think he will because the obama campaign does not realize that there is no honor among politicians and trys to run a clean campaign, we will have major war some place that we cannot win-iran/russia

Posted by: shirley | August 13, 2008 4:22 PM

Hello his campaign chairman is the biggest lobbyist, Charlie boy, then there's old Ralph who's throwin a party for him, and how about that Scheunemann guy, directly tied to the crap over in Georgia right now, and how nice just in time for McSame to run all over the news media spewing his WAR WAR WAR and more WAR message! Anyone who believe's these guys are either very stupid or still drinking the Bush/Rove kool aid!

Posted by: Sue F | August 13, 2008 4:23 PM

I'm thinking McCain might have make a mistake accepting the lobbyist money from Georgia, since there was no one to correct him or point it out, he thought it was our southern state of Georgia lobbying him.

Posted by: Ryan | August 13, 2008 4:23 PM

Keith Olbermann couldn't give the straight skinny about a yard stick. The guy is an idiot and completely unentertaining.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:24 PM

I'd rather see a rock star in the White House than a 70 year old B rate actor!

Posted by: Hey there ObieJuan | August 13, 2008 4:27 PM

I agree. Any rock star would be a better choice than Obama.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:29 PM

This is why mercenary, third party lobbiests should be outlawed in favor of their w2 status employment by a SINGLE entity.

When lobbiests can work both for a candidate and a foreign government they are a NATIONAL SECURITY LIABILITY!

Imagine if the lobbiest for the NRA was also the aid to a political candidate for president?

Or what if a lobbiest for big pharma was on the whitehouse payroll?

Or what if big oil had undue sway in the whitehouse... Oh. Wait a sec.

Ugh. Never mind its already happened.

See what you get when lobbiests are allowed to pimp for ANYONE?

Posted by: JBE | August 13, 2008 4:29 PM

Dude, you're putting us all to sleep with this boring stuff.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:30 PM


HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN AN HONEST RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN?

Posted by: Nelson | August 13, 2008 4:32 PM

It's always good to see McCain get some press coverage. Unfortunately, as usual, he makes the news because he is corrupt and hangs out with crooks and demons.

Too bad that the poor, like obiewan, can't see past their hatred of upright people long enough to see the charlatans for who they are.

They elected Bush and now they want to follow their "success" by electing McDeath.

What's more Anti-American than that?

Posted by: Martiniano | August 13, 2008 4:32 PM

"I'd rather see a rock star in the White House than a 70 year old B rate actor!"

Good point. The Reps elected and loved their actor guy - you know, the old guy who sold cocaine to buy guns and served in office with Alzheimers?

I'd like to see The Boss in office. But in his stead Obama will do just fine.

Worst we can do is elect John "The Human Larvae" McCain.

Posted by: Good point there! | August 13, 2008 4:36 PM

HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN AN HONEST RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN?

Posted by: Nelson | August 13, 2008 4:32 PM
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... or for that matter a liberal that wasn't a hypocrite?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:36 PM

McCain: maverick in name only. Business as usual, from a typical Washington insider.

Ralph Reed: a sleazy GOP operative who uses (hijacks?) 'religion' to serve the GOP's corporate overlords.

Posted by: micron26 | August 13, 2008 4:36 PM

Nelson, how many Conservatives have won the Nobel Peace Prize?

Not too many, eh? Because they are bad men. That's why.

Posted by: Hey Nelson | August 13, 2008 4:38 PM

Martiniano, you must be a liberal because you have that arrogant "I know what's best for the ignorant masses" attitude down pat. You must be a legend in your own mind. Obama has the same disease as you.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:40 PM

But, obiewan, you MISSED it!! Now McCain is the NEW rock star, telling the Russians and Georgia his ideas about how they should deal with their conflicts!! Once in a while, McCain has to pretend HE can do something too instead of his campaign only picking Obama apart! Granted, McCain doesn't even show up to vote on 63.8% of the issues in Congress in his Senator job, and he spent the majority of his military "experiences?" looking at the 4 walls of an enemy prison, so what else does he have to brag about?? His affairs?

Posted by: Maerzie | August 13, 2008 4:41 PM

Maerzie, McCain will be the rock star when Keith Olbermann naws off his dingle berries every night and he can draw 200k Germans to hear a speech. That little Jujitsu move you tried to pull didn't work very well.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:47 PM

The fact remains for anybody who knows the philosophies and operations of the parties: Anyone who votes Republican and doesn't earn AT LEAST $500,000 a year is voting AGAINST himself and his own interests! But, many did that with Bush and they STILL haven't learned their lesson!

Posted by: Maerzie | August 13, 2008 4:47 PM

Great discourse, guys! This "Churchillian" use of the English language makes we wonder if there shouldn't be an intelligence test for not only posters but voters.

Posted by: Jublilation T. Cornpone | August 13, 2008 4:47 PM

Is the hypocrite even at the wheel of the BS Express? Are those who support him completely oblivious to the fact that his words are at complete odds with his actions? Answer me this, McCain morons: how many lobbyists working for McCain does it take to put the lie to his bogus "no lobbyist" policy?

Of course, this isn't the first lobbyist problem for this self-proclaimed anti-lobbyist, and it won't be the last. The only question is whether the mainstream media will report it, or continue to puff up the maverick myth?

McCain can continue to dissemble and outright lie, but federal law requires Scheunemann and any other lobbyist connected to McCain to publicly disclose all lobbying contacts as an agent of a foreign government.

And now Ralph Reed? Ralph Reed of the Jack Abramoff scandal? One wonders just how stupid are McCain's supporters. One wonders just how stupid McCain's supporters think *we* are.

Posted by: Ricardo Malocchio | August 13, 2008 4:49 PM

WP sure is getting desperate. Why don't these two erstwhile reporters look into Obama's alleged "fake" birth certificate proving he was not born in the United States, is not a natural born citizen, and is therefore ineligible to run for president - in dances Hillary.

Posted by: Adrian | August 13, 2008 4:52 PM

About time the Washington Post reporters start doing their homework. There is a definitive conflict of interest between what's happening in the Georgia-Russia conflict and McCain's ties to his lobbyist. The WaPo should keep digging.

Did the Georgian president overplay his hand because he was told to do so by someone in the McCain campaign and now has created an international conflict?

Posted by: Eros Wong | August 13, 2008 4:56 PM

Great discourse, guys! This "Churchillian" use of the English language makes we wonder if there shouldn't be an intelligence test for not only posters but voters.

Posted by: Jublilation T. Cornpone | August 13, 2008 4:47 PM
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Another post from an "I know what's best for the ignorant masses" liberal. You guys are like cockroaches today.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 4:59 PM

As I saw on cable news The Georgian President quoting Senator McCain….
I also expected to here this message has been approved by John McCain. I guess The Georgian felt obligated since they felt they are partners

Posted by: Annoyed | August 13, 2008 5:00 PM

you seem to have forgotten the Blonde lobbyist Vicki Iseman affair too!

Posted by: Elvis1 | August 13, 2008 5:01 PM

Talk about disgusting pork barrel projects.... 1 out of evey 5 dollars spent on the Iraq war goes to a private contractor. Is that what Bushie-Mccain call supporting the troops or supporting their lobbyist friends like Vicki Iseman, Rick Davis, his campaign manager, Charlie Black and jack Abramhoff?

The report, by the Congressional Budget Office, according to people with knowledge of its contents, will say that one out of every five dollars spent on the war in Iraq has gone to contractors for the United States military and other government agencies, in a war zone where employees of private contractors now outnumber American troops.

The Pentagon's reliance on outside contractors in Iraq is proportionately far larger than in any previous conflict, and it has fueled charges that this outsourcing has led to overbilling, fraud and shoddy and unsafe work that has endangered and even killed American troops. The role of armed security contractors has also raised new legal and political questions about whether the United States has become too dependent on private armed forces on the 21st-century battlefield.

Heckova job Bushie-McCain in supporting the troops!

Posted by: John W McCainBush | August 13, 2008 5:03 PM

McCain will drive this country further into the ground Obie. But based on what you've said so far, you're probably okay with that as long as Republicans continue to play on your fears. I hope you are enlisted to go fight these glorious wars that you argued for. You have clearly been listening to far too much right-wing hate speech. Were you related to the sad SOB who shot up that Unitarian church? You sound like a little coward just like him.

Posted by: McCain Equals Bush | August 13, 2008 5:03 PM

McCain does not know anything about the Economy, where Iraq, Iran, Pakistan or Afghanistan are in relation to each other, the different between the Shiites and Sunnis or anything else.

What is Amazing is how anyone can be an Senator for so many years and know so little, about so much!

McCain has made an Senate career out of being an POW 40 years ago. Without accomplishing anything of note in all years as an Senator except costing American tax payers Billions in the Keating 5 scandal, and co-sponsoring Amnesty with the Socialist, Drunk and Killer Ed Kennedy for the loyal Mexicans citizens sent by Mexico to Colonize American! To add insult to injury he then thought Americans were stupid enough to believe him when he tried to deceive them by saying it was not Amnesty or he was not rewarding them for invading the US and breaking numerous Laws! To show the agree that dementia has ravished McCain he even wanted to reward gang members like MS-13 with citizenship that work with & for the Mexican drug cartel and are some of the most vicious gang members in the world! McCain has shown much more loyally to Mexico and his Invading Amigos than to American and its law abiding Citizens. He constantly appears before the racist hate organization La Raza (The Race) that is dedicated to the reconquest of American Southwest and promises them anything as he begs for their votes!

McCain would rather lose an Nation than an Hispanic vote!

McCain's Hispanic Outreach person Juan Hernandez was a Cabinet member in Mexico's Vicente Fox's government and VP of the racist hate organization La Raza (The Race) & is openly for Reconquest of the American Southwest!.

Some of his comments.

“We have recognized that the Mexican population is 100 million in Mexico and 23 million who live in the United States…We are a united nation.”

Mexican immigrants “are going to keep one foot in Mexico and are not going to assimilate.”

Mexico's total economic policy is to send their Criminals and Uneducated peons to the US for Tax payers to support as they cost tax payers Billions sucking at the trough of public Welfare & for their free Medical & Schooling, while Killing, Robbing and Raping Americans citizens by the 10,s of thousands, for Businesses to Exploit and Profits from, and Corrupt Politicians to Pander and Cuddle for votes, while ignoring our Constitution against Invasion, the Rule of Law & their Oath of Office!

Apparently McCain agrees with his adviser about the Reconquest of the Southwest and the Colonization of American, or he would support our Constitution against Invasion, the Rule of Law, and Honor his Oath of Office, instead of rewarding the Invading horde with Amnesty!

McCain is too Stupid to be an Senator, too Stupid to be President and too Treasonous to be an American! My Friends.

Sadly, McCain is an ex-hero and now American traitor like Benedict Arnold!

Posted by: Black Saint J | August 13, 2008 5:03 PM

And another thing.... we American are most certainly *not* all Georgians. Some of us are smart enough to know - or at least not paid enough to pretend not to know - that Russian overreaction in no way excuses the cross-border provocations by the Georgians.

And neither does the encouragement of that belligerence by the neocon right, which now claims McCain as a fellow traveler.

McCain '08 - 4 more years of incompetence and corruption.

Posted by: Ricardo Malocchio | August 13, 2008 5:04 PM

I'm neither an Obamabot nor a hypocrite, nor do I slander strangers while hiding behind an anonymous tag. I have real problems with special interest money in Washington, especially when it appears to influence foreign policy which must always be based on American interests.

George Washington warned the nation to beware foreign entanglements for precisely this reason. Here it appears to have led to giving false encouragement to an ally, and, with McCain issuing bellicose statements, brought us into a state of direct confrontation with a nuclear armed nation. I long for adults to be back in charge, frankly.

And I share the views of the poster above regarding media treatment of the two candidates. Obama in Germany was scrupulous to avoid meddling in foreign policy decisions he is not entitled to make. Yet he was still criticized by some for even speaking to foreigners as if this was a violation of international etiquette. McCain, by contrast, literally rushed to issue an extremely belligerent statement before the US government had formulated a formal response, and presemably without the benefit of the information available to the President. Why is this apparent double standard not remarked upon in the press?

This is a serious issue, not a game, and McCain's willingness to cynically use this opportunity as a campaign tactic is beneath the man I initially supported in 2000.

Posted by: obiewannabe | August 13, 2008 5:04 PM

obiewannabe, get over yourself. No wonder you like Obama. You each carry too high an opinion of yourself and to little of others.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:08 PM

obiewan,

Now you see how it feels to supporters of Senator Obama when the McCain campaign, Senator McCain and the media makes LAME ACCUSATIONS of Senator Obama. What goes around, comes around. So shall ye sow, so shall ye reap!!! Booya!

Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 13, 2008 5:10 PM

obiewan,

Now you see how it feels to supporters of Senator Obama when the McCain campaign, Senator McCain and the media makes LAME ACCUSATIONS of Senator Obama. What goes around, comes around. So shall ye sow, so shall ye reap!!! Booya!

Posted by: CitizenAJ | August 13, 2008 5:11 PM

John McCain for Warmonger in Chief. His lobbyist buddy really set him up well this time. Is this another war engineered by the Neocons? Sounds like Schuenemann's work. His partner recently took $200,000 from the Georgians. Sounds like some conflict of interest here. McC and his lobbyist advisor should be required to stay out of this one.

Posted by: lynne | August 13, 2008 5:13 PM

This is too easy

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:14 PM

"More War" McCain for President. Boo-yah.

Posted by: Don Julio | August 13, 2008 5:14 PM

CitizenAJ, what are the lame accusations made against Obama?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:15 PM

Obiewhine, please tell us why you will vote FOR McCain. Not why you will be voting against Obama. Can you tell us what McCain and his merry band of lobbyists have done that you support so much? Please, entertain us. Is it because Rush told you to?

Posted by: McCain Equals Bush | August 13, 2008 5:17 PM

MCCAIN LOBBYISTS FIRST

ttp://www.mccainslobbyists.com

Posted by: rima | August 13, 2008 5:17 PM

It must be a slow news day. Since the press doesn't have their rock star Obama to fawn over they figure the can pass the time making lame accusations against McCain.

Posted by: obiewan
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I hope you win the McCain toaster oven for your lame posts, opie.

Posted by: 2008 | August 13, 2008 5:18 PM

Obiewhine...heh heh

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Last Place McCain-McBush III Corporate Welfare Robbing the US Treasury (American People)
Last Place McCain-McBush III Wall Street selling American Big Banks to foreign billionaires Crisis giving foreign sweatshop billionaires direct votes in Our Economy, Way of Life and Government.
Mission Accomplish Last Place McCain-McBush III For Trying To Destroy Our Democracy and Economy

The Multiple Crisis that are hurting OUR COUNTRY are the fault of the Administration, Supreme Court, Congress and especially the GOP Republican Party for allowing GOP Republican International War Suspects McBush, Cheney, and Rice to lie, cheat and steal their way into the Highest Office on Earth and remain there for eight years. The Entire World thinks that America was ridiculous for allowing GOP Republican criminals and scoundrels to steal their way into office not once but twice. If you locked three Rock Wellers in a jewelry shop for eight years without supervision, what would you expect upon returning? Why are Americans surprised that the three scoundrels McBush, Cheney, and Rice have smashed up the place and almost destroyed America in eight years? You should have expected bad things from those criminals eight years ago and stopped them back then. Instead of stopping the trillion dollar criminals, the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) went after the Dixie Chicks, Paris Hilton, Rosie O’Donnel, and Britney Spears. How stupid.

Now the media (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) pursues Boy George, because he might be a threat. What an incredibly stupid, stupid, and racist media we have. The World is watching and laughing at our stupid media and defunct Wall Street robber barons greedy selfish shortsighted supercapitalistic system. Since when does the prerequisite for becoming the President includes being a poor military academy student, out of action POW, computer illiterate, senior citizen and husband of a recovering drug addict / thief / criminal? Last Place McCain is qualified to be a former POW and Mrs. McThief is qualified to be a recovering drug addict. What a pair and example for our youth. Romney the compulsive liars will not help our country as vice president. I say elect the GOP Republicans and force them to fix their gigantic GOP Republican supercapitalism mess in one year or dissolve the defunct and forever failing GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party. The defunct GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War against the objection of Most Americans and the Entire World. Now the GOP Republicans are obligated to immediately stop this illegal Iraq War, involve Europe in the peace keeping / rebuilding task, and face the International Court of Justice (The Hague) on charges of War Crimes. Irish-American Barack Obama takes the high road, while Last Place McCain swims in the sewer.


GOP Republican Failures Reagan was an idiot, while Gorbachev saved the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush I and idiot sidekick Quayle accomplished nothing, while Barbara acted presidential

Democratic Success Bill Clinton Balances the Budget
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintains a barrel of oil at $24
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintains a gallon of gasoline at $1.50
Democratic Success Bill Clinton achieves an excellent US relationship with the World

GOP Republican Failures Bush II attacks the US Constitution and steals elections from the American People
GOP Republican Failures Bush II attacks the United Nations and declares an illegal war against an innocent country Iraq
GOP Republican Failures Bush II smuggles criminal Saudi Arabian friends of the Bush out of the country who were key figures in the attack against our country
GOP Republican Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire oil criminal Wall Street friends to illegally raise a barrel of oil from $24 to $145
GOP Republican Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire oil criminal Wall Street friends to illegally raise a gallon of gasoline from $1.50 to $4.50
GOP Republican Failures Bush II illegally starts wire tapping citizens, torturing prisoners, and attacking Mexican-American workers (who are the backbone of American labor)
GOP Republican Failures Bush II tarnishes America’s good name with the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush II is perceived as a villain to the World
GOP Republican Failures Bush II, Cheney, and Rice War Crimes questioning by The Hague
GOP Republican Failures Last Place McCain is owned by millionaire oil criminals and will continue the Bush policies of failures

AMERICA belongs to AMERICANS and not to greedy GOP Republican Wall Street criminals speculating away our children’s future.

Posted by: GOP Last Place McFailure | August 13, 2008 5:20 PM

Obiewhine...heh heh

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:18 PM
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Wow! You're easily entertained.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:21 PM

McCain is obviously back in the Keating mode. The lobbyists running his campaign are selling favored status to foreign countries. No wonder McCain screamed "war" when Georgia and Russia clashed. Georgia has ownership in McCain's presidency!
Watch this story. If it doesn't make it in the evening news it's because the evening news you watch is shilling for McCain. He's a crook!

Posted by: Fishingriver | August 13, 2008 5:23 PM

Wow! You're easily entertained.

Posted by: obiewan
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Golly! You're easily unemployed, OPee.

Posted by: 2008 | August 13, 2008 5:23 PM

Why the personal attacks, dude? If you have a disagreement with anything I wrote, please state it. By your behavior, it seems to be you who is guilty of the numerous accusations you have been hurling around.

Posted by: obiewannabe | August 13, 2008 5:24 PM

You can call Obama a "rock star" if you like, as I see that as a compliment to the candidate. It suggests energy, drive, people-appeal, youth, charisma, as well as, business savvy.

By Comparison, with McCain, I see, hmmm.....Nothing!!! but Bush reincarnated.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:28 PM

One comment here says in one word what has happened to our news reports and the level at which viewers function. Re: Keith Olberman, "not even entertaining". Well duh---the news not entertaining? Maybe we could back up the reporters with a song or dance to entice the viewers. I tend to agree that Keith is short on actual news but, apparently, that's the way of the world now. If I didn't watch BBCWorld News every day I would have no idea about what's happening in my world!

Posted by: Elisabeth | August 13, 2008 5:29 PM

Obiewhine, please tell us why you will vote FOR McCain. Not why you will be voting against Obama. Can you tell us what McCain and his merry band of lobbyists have done that you support so much? Please, entertain us. Is it because Rush told you to?

Posted by: McCain Equals Bush | August 13, 2008 5:17 PM
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First, I'll tell you why I won't vote for Obama and I'll give you the short version. He is an elitist, supports Black liberation Theology which makes him a Marxist, a liberal to the extreme, has ZERO relevant experience, he can't string two sentences together without a teleprompter and he is EXTREMELY ARROGANT. How's that for starters.

Telling you why I am voting for McCain is real easy. He is a better choice than Obama.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:29 PM

I am currently lining up all my Star Wars storm trooper buddies to march during the GOP convention. We show you!

Posted by: Obiewanmymommy | August 13, 2008 5:29 PM

I guess Obiewhine has nothing positive to say about his candidate, surprise surprise. Maybe he'll vote for Bob Barr. No one has anything good to say about McSame. Is he the "maverick" you hoped he'd be Obiewhine? Did he flip-flop enough for you? Or do you simply look to your right-wing radio for your answers? Why don't you do some of your own research? Do your own homework and learn to think for yourself. Don't just be another parrot.

Posted by: McCain Equals Bush | August 13, 2008 5:33 PM

According to the Emperor, Obama is a marxist and liberal (I have no idea what those words mean). Lord Vader on Fox News says that he uses the teleprompter and has no experience...

and I just piddled in my costume.

Posted by: obiewantMcCain | August 13, 2008 5:33 PM

You can call Obama a "rock star" if you like, as I see that as a compliment to the candidate. It suggests energy, drive, people-appeal, youth, charisma, as well as, business savvy.

By Comparison, with McCain, I see, hmmm.....Nothing!!! but Bush reincarnated.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 5:28 PM
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Keep calling "The One" (aka Obama) a rock star. I can't hear, or read, that enough. One thing about arrogant people is they have a poor sense of humor and hate being the target of good humor. This is why McCain's celebrity ads are so effective. Obama can't respond effectively to them because he actually believes his own hype.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:34 PM

What about midlevel oil company employees donating big bucks way beyond their means to McCain? It happened a few days after he flipped on offshore drilling.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/hess_corporation_office_manage.php

I get a kick out of the "Washington Post Investigations" at the top of this blog. It's the shortest investigation I've ever seen.

Posted by: Bill | August 13, 2008 5:35 PM

I am now figuring out - John McCain, isn't even going to vote for John McCain.

Posted by: latinovoter | August 13, 2008 5:36 PM

Ummmm ... Obiewan ... most people would believe popularity is a good sign of support, and most people support a candidate because they prefer them. So since when did "rock star" become perjorative? Lol ... I guess if you can regularly hold your rallies in a phone booth like McCain you gotta find some way to calm the green eyed monster. He is sooo jealous, it's funny. And I actually love the fact that the ol' maverick is gettin' what he wished for ... MORE PRESS COVERAGE! It's about time ... no lobbyists, now that's a funny line!

Posted by: straight talk my a** | August 13, 2008 5:36 PM

I am currently lining up all my Star Wars storm trooper buddies to march during the GOP convention. We show you!

Posted by: Obiewanmymommy | August 13, 2008 5:29 PM
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You've got the wrong movie. It should be a bunch of Agent Smiths from The Matrix. After all, you are voting for "The One" aren't you?

Posted by: o | August 13, 2008 5:37 PM

The real "one" is Luke Skywalker. He and Princess Leia are twins - cool, huh?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:37 PM

"Today, we are all Georgians."

Randy Scheunemann

Posted by: BK | August 13, 2008 3:58 PM

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For $200k, I'll say I'm a Georgian too. I'm heading over to the McCain campaign website to see how I can sign up.

Posted by: Indie in VA | August 13, 2008 5:38 PM

Ummmm ... Obiewan ... most people would believe popularity is a good sign of support, and most people support a candidate because they prefer them. So since when did "rock star" become perjorative? Lol ... I guess if you can regularly hold your rallies in a phone booth like McCain you gotta find some way to calm the green eyed monster. He is sooo jealous, it's funny. And I actually love the fact that the ol' maverick is gettin' what he wished for ... MORE PRESS COVERAGE! It's about time ... no lobbyists, now that's a funny line!

Posted by: straight talk my a** | August 13, 2008 5:36 PM
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I find it very funny and reassuring that you don't get why the 'celebrity' ads are so effective.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:39 PM

I am currently lining up all my Star Wars storm trooper buddies to march during the GOP convention. We show you!

Posted by: Obiewanmymommy | August 13, 2008 5:29 PM

Now, THAT'S funny ... but you better watch out. McCain will be showing up in his Emperor's costume.

Posted by: obiewannacracker | August 13, 2008 5:39 PM

Dork alert! Dork alert! Poster calling himself "obiewan" is engaging in ironic pop culture comments about Obama.

Posted by: George Lucas called - you're a dweeb... | August 13, 2008 5:40 PM

Why on earth does McCain waddle around with his arms sticking straight out? Is it to try and look tough?

I think he looks just like a penguin.

You know...I'm just sayin'.....

Obiewan...please don't tell me you've taken the name of that Stars Wars geek. Say it ani't so, Obiewan!

Posted by: richie | August 13, 2008 5:42 PM

Dork alert! Dork alert! Poster calling himself "obiewan" is engaging in ironic pop culture comments about Obama.

Posted by: George Lucas called - you're a dweeb... | August 13, 2008 5:40 PM
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This is funny. A guy trying to look hip by using the word "dork". Did you get that ancient word from McCain himself?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:44 PM

Yes, an insult about being hip from the doofus calling himself "obiewan". You got a lightsaber to go with the witty commentary?

Posted by: Obiewan: everyday is Halloween in my house... | August 13, 2008 5:47 PM

Why on earth does McCain waddle around with his arms sticking straight out? Is it to try and look tough?

I think he looks just like a penguin.

You know...I'm just sayin'.....

Posted by: richie | August 13, 2008 5:42 PM
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You're going to feel really stupid after I tell you. It's because the North Vietnamese broke bones in his arms and shoulders while he was a POW for five years and didn't allow him medical attention so they could heal properly. Someone that makes this kind of comment must not have any pubic hair yet.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:49 PM

Is it true that when John McCain left his first wife after she "stood by her man" while he was captive in Vietnam, home alone raising their children. Did he come home only to leave her after she fell ill for a younger woman. The current Mrs. McCain?

I know, it sounds like John Edwards, but he ain't running for President. John McCain IS....

What say you Republicans out there about this and "good ole'fashioned FAMILY values"?

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | August 13, 2008 5:49 PM

Yes, an insult about being hip from the doofus calling himself "obiewan". You got a lightsaber to go with the witty commentary?

Posted by: Obiewan: everyday is Halloween in my house... | August 13, 2008 5:47 PM
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If I did I would give it to you if it would make you post something funny.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:51 PM

Obiewannabe managed to put together a very intellegent post. You, Obiewan, on the other hand come across as a loser, who has neither a high opinion of others, or an intelligent one of your own.

Posted by: Craig Jones | August 13, 2008 5:51 PM

Sorry everyone I had to take a break there to masturbate over that kitten I killed last week.

--- Mom! SHUT the DOOR! I told you to stay OUT when I'm at the computer! GAWD! --

Anyway, yeah so Obama is, like -- what was it Rush said? -- oh yeah, a nig... er... a nogood person. Yeah, so there.

-- MOM!! Ferchrissakes, can't you leave me alone for a MINUTE! I'll clean my room LATER! No you CAN'T throw that fly covered shoebox away! BECAUSE!! Go ahead and tell dad! I don't care! I HATE you! --

So anyway, you Obamabots suck. I gotta go.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 5:51 PM

find it very funny and reassuring that you don't get why the 'celebrity' ads are so effective.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:39 PM

Are they effective because they distort John McCain's failure to be present for any one of 8 votes on alternative energy? Are they effective because they try to distract voters from focusing on John McCain's own turgid speaking style and inability to inspire even his own base? Yeah, that's sure a positive, effective message to deliver to millions of people trying to enjoy the Olympics, from the guy who promised us a positive, respectful campaign. I'd like to suggest an ad: who IS John McCain today -- not in 2000, not in 1969 but today. Now that would be interesting.

Posted by: obiewannacracker | August 13, 2008 5:53 PM

Is it true that when John McCain left his first wife after she "stood by her man" while he was captive in Vietnam, home alone raising their children. Did he come home only to leave her after she fell ill for a younger woman. The current Mrs. McCain?

I know, it sounds like John Edwards, but he ain't running for President. John McCain IS....

What say you Republicans out there about this and "good ole'fashioned FAMILY values"?

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | August 13, 2008 5:49 PM
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McCain could have a harem of women tucked away in Saudi Arabia and he would still be a better choice than Obama.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:53 PM

"It must be a slow news day. Since the press doesn't have their rock star Obama to fawn over they figure the can pass the time making lame accusations against McCain."

Posted by: obiewan

And it's about time the press went after McCain, who is as phony as they come, "my friend." And corrupt. The only current Senator still bearing the ethical censure of his peers. Who seems never to have seen a lie he doesn't think he could use.

Posted by: edwcorey | August 13, 2008 5:57 PM

Obiewannabe managed to put together a very intellegent post. You, Obiewan, on the other hand come across as a loser, who has neither a high opinion of others, or an intelligent one of your own.

Posted by: Craig Jones | August 13, 2008 5:51 PM
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Yet another arrogant "I know what is best for the ignorant masses" liberal. Is there enough oxygen up where you lefties fly around in the stratosphere?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 5:58 PM

And it's about time the press went after McCain, who is as phony as they come, "my friend." And corrupt. The only current Senator still bearing the ethical censure of his peers. Who seems never to have seen a lie he doesn't think he could use.

Posted by: edwcorey | August 13, 2008 5:57 PM
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The only reason Obama isn't censured yet is he hasn't been in the Senate long enough to get caught. How many days did he serve before announcing his run for president?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:01 PM

How can you see lefties floating around with your head so far up McCain's a$$?

Posted by: "Obiewan's" mother called: GET A JOB!!! | August 13, 2008 6:02 PM

Are they effective because they distort John McCain's failure to be present for any one of 8 votes on alternative energy? Are they effective because they try to distract voters from focusing on John McCain's own turgid speaking style and inability to inspire even his own base? Yeah, that's sure a positive, effective message to deliver to millions of people trying to enjoy the Olympics, from the guy who promised us a positive, respectful campaign. I'd like to suggest an ad: who IS John McCain today -- not in 2000, not in 1969 but today. Now that would be interesting.

Posted by: obiewannacracker | August 13, 2008 5:53 PM
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I wish you Obamabots would just quit whining.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:03 PM

And we wish you would find a real girl, get married, and leave our basement.

Posted by: Obiewan's Mom and Dad | August 13, 2008 6:04 PM

Sorry, Craig, I guess we are liberal elitists for... I'm not sure exactly... Also not sure where I said anything about ignorant masses.... This dude is a trip. Is it possible this is performance art?

Posted by: obiewannabe | August 13, 2008 6:05 PM

How can you see lefties floating around with your head so far up McCain's a$$?

Posted by: "Obiewan's" mother called: GET A JOB!!! | August 13, 2008 6:02 PM
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There you go again, assuming I am a Republican. Stop with your two dimensional thinking. Then again, you are a liberal so maybe you can't help it.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:06 PM

And we wish you would find a real girl, get married, and leave our basement.

Posted by: Obiewan's Mom and Dad | August 13, 2008 6:04 PM
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I can't. You raised me to be a liberal so I'm going to live off of "parental welfare" for as long as I can get away with it.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:07 PM

You are assuming him saying you have your head up McCain's @ss is equal to assuming you are a Republican. That doesn't necessarily follow. Whatever you are, McCain is welcome to you, you freakshow.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:10 PM

as opposed to one dimensional thinking? you know, Joe Lieberman called - he'd like to know when you will be crawling out of McCain's a$$ so that he can get his spot back.

Posted by: Obiewan Can'tthinkee | August 13, 2008 6:11 PM

mc/cain should check HIS facts before he let's his Bush boys speak for him. Who is j.mc, look at the last 2 elections and you'll know. I truly thought of all people, after what they did to him he would be a bigger man....guess not.

Posted by: medleys | August 13, 2008 6:14 PM

You are assuming him saying you have your head up McCain's @ss is equal to assuming you are a Republican. That doesn't necessarily follow. Whatever you are, McCain is welcome to you, you freakshow.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:10 PM
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Yet another arrogant liberal?!?!?!? I see some cracks developing in that thin veneer you wear that tries to disguise your seething hatred of those you consider lower than you.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:14 PM

as opposed to one dimensional thinking? you know, Joe Lieberman called - he'd like to know when you will be crawling out of McCain's a$$ so that he can get his spot back.

Posted by: Obiewan Can'tthinkee | August 13, 2008 6:11 PM
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Obama called me and he wants to know when you can get that keyboard and monitor out of his rectum. He want to be able to dance at the luau tonight.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:16 PM

I remember a day when the press was labeled as 'liberal.' Times have clearly changed as the GOP owned media has now swung far right. It's good to finally see some balance in reporting that let's the facts come out and the People decide.

Posted by: David Hale | August 13, 2008 6:18 PM

Oh yeah, I'm really coming apart at the seams here, bud. Your insightful commentary has caused me to reevaluate my life. Darn jedi mindf*ck!

But, you're half right, I do consider you lower than me.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:18 PM

I remember a day when the press was labeled as 'liberal.' Times have clearly changed as the GOP owned media has now swung far right. It's good to finally see some balance in reporting that let's the facts come out and the People decide.

Posted by: David Hale | August 13, 2008 6:18 PM
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This must be an attempt at sarcasm.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:20 PM

Oh yeah, I'm really coming apart at the seams here, bud. Your insightful commentary has caused me to reevaluate my life. Darn jedi mindf*ck!

But, you're half right, I do consider you lower than me.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:18 PM
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I have no doubt you consider yourself above me. Also, above anyone that disagrees with you. That is the way you liberals think of yourselves.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:23 PM

Nope, just you.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:23 PM

I guess you glued the veneer back on and filled the cracks?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:25 PM

Are they effective because they distort John McCain's failure to be present for any one of 8 votes on alternative energy? Are they effective because they try to distract voters from focusing on John McCain's own turgid speaking style and inability to inspire even his own base? Yeah, that's sure a positive, effective message to deliver to millions of people trying to enjoy the Olympics, from the guy who promised us a positive, respectful campaign. I'd like to suggest an ad: who IS John McCain today -- not in 2000, not in 1969 but today. Now that would be interesting.

Posted by: obiewannacracker | August 13, 2008 5:53 PM
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I wish you Obamabots would just quit whining.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:03 PM

Obiewhine accuses us of whining, yet he can't come up with a SINGLE thing that he supports McSame for! What a joke! He has nothing to say, so he goes back to "arrogance" over and over... What a hack! I think Obiewhine had better turn up his Rush Limbaugh so he can get some new talking points, these old ones just aren't doing it any more Obiewhine. Let me guess, now I'm being arrogant. You are pathetic.

Posted by: McCain Equals Bush | August 13, 2008 6:27 PM

I think you have me confused with Ikea, young man.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:29 PM

So which is, Senator McCain? Do you always, as your friend Joe Lieberman says, "put America first, unlike Barack Obama?" Or are we "all Georgians," as you proclaimed yesterday? Is your chief foreign policy adviser working for an American presidential candidate or is he serving his Georgian client?

I know it is very confusing for you to keep track of all of these things. Maybe you should ask your friend President Misha "Saskavili" what he thinks about it - or get Joe Lieberman to whisper the answer in your ear.

Posted by: Chuck | August 13, 2008 6:30 PM

The first comment is hilarious!

There are many Democrats would love for McCain to get more press, because they would cover many of his questionable dealings, like having a lobbyist from Georgia tell you how to respond to a crisis involving Georgia. Can you say CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

And the Ralph Reed thing... What hypocrisy! When it was expedient, McCain was running around talking Rabout how he was fighting the Abramoff corruption scandal and scandal participants like Ralph Reed. Now that he needs Ralph Reed's and Abramoff's dirty money, he's looking the other way on corruption!

That's not leadership.

Posted by: Please give us more McCain! | August 13, 2008 6:30 PM

Obiewhine accuses us of whining, yet he can't come up with a SINGLE thing that he supports McSame for! What a joke! He has nothing to say, so he goes back to "arrogance" over and over... What a hack! I think Obiewhine had better turn up his Rush Limbaugh so he can get some new talking points, these old ones just aren't doing it any more Obiewhine. Let me guess, now I'm being arrogant. You are pathetic.

Posted by: McCain Equals Bush | August 13, 2008 6:27 PM
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You're getting your knickers in a twist there Obamabot. I told everyone why I am voting for McCain. He is by default, a better choice than Obama. McCain is far from perfect but he isn't nearly as far from perfect as Obama.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:31 PM

I think you have me confused with Ikea, young man.

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:29 PM
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Maybe. Cheap veneer all looks the same to me.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:34 PM

Careful: facts and stuff are all elitist and arrogant. Or didn't you get the memo the first 500 times?

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:34 PM

Their is no bigger idiot than obiewan and his idiocy is dwarfed only by the treasonous acts of the ideology he represents. To demean a patriot like Obama and to support a corrupt ideology like modern day conservatism as represented by John McCorrupt and his McBush ideas is almost as treasonous as the outing of a CIA agent by the heros that obiewan is cheerleading for.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 6:34 PM

The first comment is hilarious!

Posted by: Please give us more McCain! | August 13, 2008 6:30 PM
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Thank you! Thank you very much! I'll be here all week.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:36 PM

Their is no bigger idiot than obiewan and his idiocy is dwarfed only by the treasonous acts of the ideology he represents. To demean a patriot like Obama and to support a corrupt ideology like modern day conservatism as represented by John McCorrupt and his McBush ideas is almost as treasonous as the outing of a CIA agent by the heros that obiewan is cheerleading for.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 6:34 PM
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Wow! This Obamabot must have received an operating system upgrade! The rest of you need to log on to get this update.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:39 PM

Cheap veneer? Au contraire, mon frere, I'm a liberal elitist, remember? Real wood only for me. I bet you haven't seen real wood in... well, since that kitten...

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:40 PM

Careful: facts and stuff are all elitist and arrogant. Or didn't you get the memo the first 500 times?

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:34 PM
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Pssst.... your arrogance is showing again.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:41 PM

Cheap veneer? Au contraire, mon frere, I'm a liberal elitist, remember? Real wood only for me. I bet you haven't seen real wood in... well, since that kitten...

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:40 PM
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It figures that you liberals don't know cheap veneer from the good stuff. It explains a lot.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:42 PM

If by "arrogance" you mean "brilliant logic ornamented with witty wordplay that demolishes obiewan's fragile ego and makes him suck his thumb briefly before he remembers that's bad and puts it away," then, yes, I quite agree with you!

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:44 PM

It figures that you liberals don't know cheap veneer from the good stuff. It explains a lot.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:42 PM

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And it figures that you don't know real wood at all. Now THAT explains a lot!

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:47 PM

If by "arrogance" you mean "brilliant logic ornamented with witty wordplay that demolishes obiewan's fragile ego and makes him suck his thumb briefly before he remembers that's bad and puts it away," then, yes, I quite agree with you!

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:44 PM
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Wow! You liberals really have a knack for making yourselves feel like mental supermen. Kudos on having such a self reinforcing delusional mind.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:48 PM

And it figures that you don't know real wood at all. Now THAT explains a lot!

Posted by: n00biewan | August 13, 2008 6:47 PM
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You'r starting to stray pretty far off the reservation now. you might want to stroll back to it before you get hopelessly lost.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 6:50 PM

McCain has a lot of lobbyists in his campaign it is old news and no surprise.

Posted by: Swanson | August 13, 2008 6:53 PM

I like that Obiewhine never has anything meaningful to say. I can boil literally every single one of his posts down to two categories: 1. Recycled right-wing talking points, like "Obama is an elitist"; or 2. Personal attacks that attempt to distract readers from the real points, as in, "your arrogance is showing."

This is how you know McCain will lose by a landslide in November. Hopefully Obiewhine doesn't go of the deep end and start killing people like so many other right wing psychopaths. Remember McVeigh or the Unibomber? Or maybe the KKK? These are all results of your type of ideology, Obiewhine. Get a grip dude.

Posted by: McCain Equals Bush | August 13, 2008 6:53 PM

McSame; dirty low down shame and gulty as sin. "AS DARKNESS COMES TO LIGHT" THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBURG.

McCain took MILLIONS FROM LOYIST ON A CONSTANT BASIS. THE MAN IS DEEP IN $$$ AND HE'S GUILTY AS SIN

Alzheimer’s supporters would vote for this lunatic, who does not know his history, takes MILLIONS from lobbyist, answers the economy with drilling,drill drill, fiercely defends Georgia against Russia not because allies but the millions he’s in debited to his buddy, can’t remember crap, cannot hear, he’s mind is still in the POW camp and feels deserving of the White House.
Terribly boring, has nothing to say, but childish blunders,
MCSAME: Please just stay home with your stepford wife and your coat tail daughters.

Posted by: SO | August 13, 2008 6:55 PM

At least Obama seems like a normal kind of guy who hasn't been exposed for any sexual immorality like ADULTERY.

Is it true the Reagans stopped being McCain's friends when he was having an affair with his now very rich wife?

And that the mother of his children had to go to work to support his kids?

I keep reading about McCains adultery everywhere.

Usually, when there is smoke...

Posted by: Voice | August 13, 2008 6:58 PM

This is breaking news? Or does the fact that McCain's campaign staff is composed MOSTLY of lobbiest, or lobbiests on temporary loan from their lobbying firms to work on the campaign, just becoming relevant once something (or somewhere in the case of Georgia) blows up?

I mean c'mon WaPo. This hardly constitutes investigative journalism. This stuff is all over the blogs, and is being piped over the radio waves daily on Air America and Nova M Radio. All you have to do it turn your radio on. They do all the leg work for you.

But you have to get more current. This "breaking news" is so yesterday. Keep up, MSM.

Posted by: Prattle in Seattle | August 13, 2008 7:08 PM

Sounds like the McSame-iacs here are still angry that Larry Craig hasn't tapped danced with them yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 7:09 PM

Want to hear something funny? McCain got his Georgian foreign policy talking points word-for-word from Wikipedia.

Look it up, it's true.

At least he's making progress with "The Google"

Posted by: JR | August 13, 2008 7:14 PM

Once again the Washington Post is days late on anything potentially negative about John McCain. This story broke on Huffington Post dot com almost as soon as the Georgia invasion happened a couple of days ago. Even today, the Georgian president said that McCain has to do more than talk tough to really help the Georgian people. Even mentioned him by name.

Obama is on vacation so we see how interesting McCain is to the main stream media. Where is the 24 hour coverage of John McCain? The daily McCain is really way ahead story? Keep in mind. The one that is behind is the one that makes the most noise. The one who is behind goes on the attack, runs negative ads and challenges his opponent to more debates. No matter what the post prints or what angle they choose to pursue, Obama is ahead. Doesn't matter if he is ahead by 1 or 201, first to 270 gets the prom queen.

Finally, this conflict in Georgia, just like the 911 attacks happened on George Bush's watch--not Bill Clinton's, not Barack Obama's or even John McCain's. This is W's problem and is the result of W's failed administration. You'd think with just four months to go he could not screw us up any more that he has in the last 7.5 years. Instead he takes us right to the edge of the brink.

Posted by: gwt301 | August 13, 2008 7:19 PM

"You're going to feel really stupid after I tell you. It's because the North Vietnamese broke bones in his arms and shoulders while he was a POW for five years and didn't allow him medical attention so they could heal properly. Someone that makes this kind of comment must not have any pubic hair yet."
obeiwan"

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obeiwan, you are going to feel really stupid when I tell you that it happened in his plane crash before he was captured and he broke the military code of honor by giving up our ships positions to the VC in exchange for medical treatment.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 7:22 PM

I don't know if they will let me post a link here, but this is how we go to war with Iran and Russia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

Posted by: Dave | August 13, 2008 7:25 PM

obeiwan, you are going to feel really stupid when I tell you that it happened in his plane crash before he was captured and he broke the military code of honor by giving up our ships positions to the VC in exchange for medical treatment.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 13, 2008 7:22 PM
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Some of it but not all of it. It mostly is a result of the torture from and subsequent lack of medical treatment by his captors. As for bashing him for breaking under torture, I see you conveniently left out the part where he turned down a free ticket to go home because others were there longer than him and he thought they should be returned home first. It resulted in him staying for several years more enduring severe torture all that time which is another reason he can't move his hands above his shoulders. Now YOU look REALLY stupid. Way to show your appreciation for our POWs. Then again, I don't expect anything better from a liberal when it comes to our military personnel.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 7:31 PM

Roy, I agree, it is all about who you associate yourself with and McSame's surrogates, like Ralph Reed, are about as scummy as they come.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | August 13, 2008 7:33 PM

Let's suit up McCain and have him wage a one man war against Russia.

What the hell is with this guy? McCain is just repeating what his Georgian-bought lobbyist and campaign executive are giving him to read.

As if Russia is scared. They are rallying around this too. The TV news there (after which FOX is modeled) have them all worked up against Georgia.

Besides, who are we to tell Russia not to invade a sovereign country. Seems we do that too.

As far as McCain and his support of things military:

June 2008: Iraq and Afghanistan War Funding, Unemployment Benefits Extension, and GI Bill, John McCain didn't even have the guts to show up and follow through on his promise to vote agaisn't the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill
September 2007: John McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.
May 2006: John McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities. TWO YEARS before the Walter Reed story broke, and trust me that place was in a grave state of disrepair then!
April 2006: John McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.
March 2006: John McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
March 2004: John McCain voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans' medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes.
October 2003: John McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.
April 2003: John McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

Those are just the votes I could find in 10 minutes of research.

Posted by: fred O. | August 13, 2008 7:36 PM

obiewannacracker:
Please use proper English.

That's "Obiewan IS a cracker."

Cracker, please.

Posted by: Prattle in Seattle | August 13, 2008 7:36 PM

obiewannacracker:
Please use proper English.

That's "Obiewan IS a cracker."

Cracker, please.

Posted by: Prattle in Seattle | August 13, 2008 7:39 PM

Roy, I agree, it is all about who you associate yourself with and McSame's surrogates, like Ralph Reed, are about as scummy as they come.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | August 13, 2008 7:33 PM
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OMG!!!! You can say this and still vote for Obama?!?!? He sat in a church for 20 years supporting Black Liberation Theology and listening to racist, hate America sermons; cohorted with Bill Ayers a known terorist; had the felon Rezko get him a sweetheart deal on a house; then had Rezco slice him off a piece of the adjacent lot for cheap; funneled tax money to the wacky Catholic hate spewing priest, etc... These guys make Ralph Reed look like he is ready for sainthood.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 7:43 PM

obiwan angry man.

Get a grip and put forward facts that can be discussed. Regurgiating insults is not an intelligent way to support your candidate.

Posted by: Vote_with_your_brain | August 13, 2008 7:43 PM

Hey fred O., did you cut and paste that from MoveOn.org or Huffinpuff's web site?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 7:44 PM

obiewannacracker:
Please use proper English.

That's "Obiewan IS a cracker."

Cracker, please.

Posted by: Prattle in Seattle | August 13, 2008 7:36 PM
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Hey, you members of Trinity are always welcome here.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 7:46 PM

There is only one Georgia State that I, expect to give my life in defense of and that as you all know, that would be the Empire State of the South ours truly The State of Georgia in the United States of America. Senator McCain, his campaign staff of neocon lobbyists and their supporters can go and sacrifice their own for giving false hopes, lies and empty promises to the government of Georgia the ex-Soviet state of the USSR, unless they had designed all along to confront Russia militarily, because an economic chokehold on Russia, even if possible, would most likely cause it to react like a cornered rat. We are all Georgians only when it matters first and foremost with our own State of Georgia, USA. The words and deeds of Senator McCain, his neocons cohorts and consorts have undeniably proven that they are ready, willing and able to bring on World War III even before they are elected to succeed Bush/Cheney. All Americans who plan on voting for Senator McCain should be fully aware that they are effectively preparing for World War III. The facts speak for themselves, in a recent article by AP’s Pete Yost, “Four months ago, on the same day that Scheunemann's partner signed the latest $200,000 agreement with Georgia, McCain spoke with Saakashvili by phone. The senator then issued a strong statement saying that ‘we must not allow Russia to believe it has a free hand to engage in policies that undermine Georgian sovereignty.’" .Go read the whole article and research before you vote.

Posted by: Joey, Georgia USA | August 13, 2008 7:47 PM

obiwan angry man.

Get a grip and put forward facts that can be discussed. Regurgiating insults is not an intelligent way to support your candidate.

Posted by: Vote_with_your_brain | August 13, 2008 7:43 PM
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Who said McCain in "my" candidate? It is just who I am voting for this election. It could have been different if George Soros had not shoved another, liberal, Marxist, sleazy, absolutely zero experience loser down the Democrat's collective throats.

Do you know if Obama plans to water on water during the convention? I think it would go over big with the Obamabots.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 7:51 PM

A few paragraphs short and a few days late with the story, but I suppose better late than never, even if this story is buried in the online WaPO. McCain is a pandering liar. He's surrounded by lobbyist who "claim" to be off the payroll, yet are owners or part owners of their own lobby firms. Please. Charlie Black has they audacity to run his lobbying business out of the "Straight Talk Express" back during the fall 2007 primary season. Ralph Reed got caught with his lips around Jack Abramoff's.....wallet. Randy S.? Conflict of interest? Ya think? Sadly, this story will go nowhere. The media's too worked up over a black man vacationing with his elderly grandmother and sister in that far off elitist neverland called Hawaii. And ripping speeches from Wikipedia is just a nice topper for 'ol gramps. Poor old fool probably doesn't even know what Wikipedia is.

Posted by: Martin | August 13, 2008 7:58 PM

McCain isn't just senile, entitled, elitist and dumb. He's also crooked. As crooked as they come. And the press has been protecting him for far too long. If Obama had been involved with something similar, Fox News, MSNBC, CNN—every news program would be looping the story.
Even out the bias people. McCain is not a Maverick. He's just another crooked politician who did something good a long time ago.

Posted by: Silas Porter | August 13, 2008 8:12 PM

McCain isn't just senile, entitled, elitist and dumb. He's also crooked. As crooked as they come. And the press has been protecting him for far too long. If Obama had been involved with something similar, Fox News, MSNBC, CNN—every news program would be looping the story.
Even out the bias people. McCain is not a Maverick. He's just another crooked politician who did something good a long time ago.

Posted by: Silas Porter | August 13, 2008 8:12 PM
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Are you serious?!?!? You are actually accusing the media of not giving Obama preferential treatment? Do you only listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity?

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 8:18 PM

John McCain is so damned ODD!So is his strange-o little cheerleader wife in her eastern-European folk dress. For a rich woman , she wears some odd clothes.

Posted by: majorteddy | August 13, 2008 8:18 PM

John McCain is so damned ODD!So is his strange-o little cheerleader wife in her eastern-European folk dress. For a rich woman, she wears some odd clothes.

Posted by: majorteddy | August 13, 2008 8:18 PM
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No stranger than the church Obama and his wife attended for 20 years. Strange is a relative term.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 8:21 PM

McCain is always in some conflict of interest situation, but the MSM gives him a
break. This is disgraceful and he talks about putting country first. Please, he is so corrupt. By the way, what happen to Cindy's wrist, things that make you go hmmmm!

Posted by: Susan | August 13, 2008 8:21 PM

Obiewan was the FIRST poster and basically has been a thorn in the side of everyone on this thread. And for what?

To defend the Lobbyist and McCain camp goon Randy Scheunemann.

A guy who was:

ON THE BOARD OF THE 'PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY'

(that said before 9/11 that a 'New Pearl Harbor' would rally the troops to a two-front war)

AND A NEOCONSERVATIVE BENT ON ATTACKING IRAQ.

(AP today said he was 'part of the community of neoconservatives who relentlessly pushed for war in Iraq')

Obiewan has spent upwards of 4 hours on this thread DEFENDING THIS MAN.

My bet is that Obiewan is a paid shill just like McCain and just like Scheunemann. These people flock together... Abramoff, Reed, Scheunemann, McCain. Same thing.

Posted by: F&B | August 13, 2008 8:22 PM

If Randy Scheunemann has told the Georgians that the US has his back, then we know how a McCain presidency would be run by lobbyists who are paid by all sorts of outsiders.
The answer to that question should determine whether McCain is at all competent to run the country - seems not, considering how he runs his campaign, or rather how his campaign runs him.

At any rate, we have been forewarned in this case that we have another Bush type running for office.

Posted by: beagun27 | August 13, 2008 8:30 PM

Pardon the pun, but this alleged "controversy" is a red herring. Putin has been planning this invasion for at least several months with troop deployments near the border of Georgia. He either was waiting for an excuse or he created one so he could attack with impunity.

Putin kept his plans secret and there is no way McCain's adviser could have influenced events. Obama's campaign is grasping at straws to create controversy out of thin air.

This is just another cheap barack attack.

Posted by: alance | August 13, 2008 8:31 PM

Obiewan was the FIRST poster and basically has been a thorn in the side of everyone on this thread. And for what?

Obiewan has spent upwards of 4 hours on this thread DEFENDING THIS MAN.

My bet is that Obiewan is a paid shill just like McCain and just like Scheunemann. These people flock together... Abramoff, Reed, Scheunemann, McCain. Same thing.

Posted by: F&B | August 13, 2008 8:22 PM
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The only reason I am a thorn to you is because I'm not an Obamabot. If I am a paid shill then please tell me who I send the bill to for four hours of my time.

As for people flocking together, how about Obama, Ayers, Wright, Phleger, Axelrod, Daly, Farrakhan etc...

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 8:40 PM

McCain's a dirty as any politician and dirtier than most. Instead of representing the party of Lincoln, McCains represents that party of Ted Stevens.

Posted by: Jon D | August 13, 2008 9:08 PM


Well, let us point out that Randy Scheunemann, is one of the Wolfowitz-Perle-Libby jewish neocons...

and ask whether McCain knew, (or whehter he's too dim or confused to know that a call to Scheuneman's client) Georgian president Saakashvili, could be seen as a green light type of thing.

As Saakashvile says he took it to be. And then perhaps ask if it's true that Georgia's defense minister, described as a
"former Israeli" (!) who was instrumental in Israel's quick arming of Georgia...

and then wonder just how far the Wolfowitz plan...attack Iraq, and then Iran and then Syria...had a further plan, up through Turkey and into Georgia, and...eventally Russia. Using American taxpayer dollars until...

But back to McCain. What did he know and when did he know it? Or does he know yet?
His answer on the subject tonight was
not close to coherent.

Posted by: unneocon | August 13, 2008 9:26 PM

Obiewan, you conveniently left out this part of my post:

Lobbyist and McCain camp goon Randy Scheunemann.

A guy who was:

ON THE BOARD OF THE 'PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY'

(that said before 9/11 that a 'New Pearl Harbor' would rally the troops to a two-front war)

AND A NEOCONSERVATIVE BENT ON ATTACKING IRAQ.

(AP today said he was 'part of the community of neoconservatives who relentlessly pushed for war in Iraq')

Defend that.

We are talking about Randy Scheunemann. John McCain's "top foreign policy adviser". That is the subject of this post. You have be posting here all day and not mentioned Randy Scheunemann ONCE.

So what do you have to say about John McCain's "TOP FOREIGN POLICY ADVISER".... Nothing?

Let me try to start you off.... Okay, three points:

1) He was on the Board of Project for a New American Century.

2) He was part of the community of neocons who relentlessly pushed for war in Iraq.

3) He was paid by the country Georgia to Lobby John McCain's office, and now he is working for the John McCain campaign while McCain makes statements about Georgia.

Defend those three points without invoking Barack Obama.

Thanks.

Posted by: F&B | August 13, 2008 9:26 PM

If it was a lame accusation, why did the McCain advisor 'separate himself' from his lobbying firm?

Posted by: MyVoteDoesNotCountInAlabama | August 13, 2008 9:36 PM

The extent to which the Republicans instigated the Russia-Georgia conflict is debatable, but their efforts to milk it for all its worth are not.

Posted by: barbara | August 13, 2008 9:41 PM

Obiewan, you conveniently left out this part of my post:.......

Defend those three points without invoking Barack Obama.

Thanks.

Posted by: F&B | August 13, 2008 9:26 PM
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You are mistaken in thinking I am some ardent supporter of McCain. I am not. I don't claim he is a choir boy. I am not voting for McCain. I am voting AGAINST OBAMA. Obama is too inexperienced, liberal, untested, unknown, willing to blow with the political wind and has sequestered himself to the point he looks unsure of himself or he is hiding something. There are plenty of things I don't like about McCain but once again we are put in a position by the two political parties of voting against someone instead of voting for someone.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 9:41 PM


Obiewan is a smart a little adolescent.

One of the Jewish whiz kids mouthing off on every post every hour.

Their names are all to familiar to many of us. The names change, the stupidity and smart a never does.

please do us all a favor and ignore him ...get on with posting intelligent things.

Posted by: ignore the brat | August 13, 2008 9:42 PM

Too funny- listen to the wingnuts try to change the subject. Once again, "the un-Maverick" Magoo is caught using lobbyists who have conflicts of interest, and all they can do is show that they are in denial.

This man is a disaster. He is just what America doesn't need- another GOP politician squarely in the pocket of big business and lobbyists who has no clue about the needs of working people.

Obama is going to win, rednecks. Deal with it!

Posted by: LH | August 13, 2008 9:47 PM

Too funny- listen to the wingnuts try to change the subject. Once again, "the un-Maverick" Magoo is caught using lobbyists who have conflicts of interest, and all they can do is show that they are in denial.

This man is a disaster. He is just what America doesn't need- another GOP politician squarely in the pocket of big business and lobbyists who has no clue about the needs of working people.

Obama is going to win, rednecks. Deal with it!

Posted by: LH | August 13, 2008 9:48 PM

Obiewan is a smart a little adolescent.

One of the Jewish whiz kids mouthing off on every post every hour.

Their names are all to familiar to many of us. The names change, the stupidity and smart a never does.

please do us all a favor and ignore him ...get on with posting intelligent things.

Posted by: ignore the brat | August 13, 2008 9:42 PM
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Another arrogant liberal has weighed in?!?!?!? Maybe one day you will realize you are no better than those you see as the "ignorant masses" that need your guidance and superior liberal intellect.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 9:49 PM

Obama is going to win, rednecks. Deal with it!
Posted by: LH | August 13, 2008 9:47 PM
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Stay away from sharp objects on November 4th and 5th. You might be feeling very suicidal.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 9:52 PM


Two things on the front burner have one thing in common.

The more we find out about the Georgian situation--the more we see the personnel in the McCain campaign--the more we see.

Jewish neocons/zionists/israelis...what do you name them, EVERYWHERE.

EVER see a McCain appearance without Lieberman pratically on his back, for example, what's with that? Then there's Schmidt, et. al. And now Scheunemann as foreign policy advisor. Who else?

Posted by: campaign personnel | August 13, 2008 9:53 PM

Too all you liberals:

Please accept my sincere thanks for providing me with pro-Obama posts that have no basis in sound logic and humility. It has made it very easy for me to respond with humorous replies. I have come to the conclusion that the easiest way to defeat an arrogant liberal (is there any other kind?) is through self deprecating humor. They think so highly of themselves that they can't respond in kind and this just further highlights the extent of their arrogance toward the 80% of the country's population they look down on. It has been funny playing you all like a fiddle.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 10:00 PM

My point has been made.

This troll has NOTHING to say about Randy Scheunemann. John McCain's "Top foreign policy adviser"...

And a guy who: was on the board of PNAC, is a neocon who relentlessly pushed for war in Iraq, and who was a lobbyist working for a foreign power but now works for McCain.

If you suggest that having someone like THAT in the White House is "the lesser of two evils" you are A) totally brain-washed or B) totally brain-dead.

Posted by: F&B | August 13, 2008 10:10 PM

That termperamental McCain - Another Point of Interest: Word is that Obama's use of drugs as a TEENAGER will be a REAL issue that Republicans will use against him during and after the conventionS this month. HOWEVER, for some reason, John McCain's ADULT TRANSGRESSIONS will NOT be mentioned. For instance: upon returning from Vietnam, McCain was a serial adulterer - AND McCain and his current wife, Cindy, were involved, committed adulterers before McCain divorced his wife at the time. Also, a minister outed McCain at a public meeting by asking him about calling Cindy a "c_nt" - rhymes with bunt. McCain offered no denials, but changed the subject. This response was after Cindy had referred to his thinning hair, also in public. Oh - McCain prefaced the "c_unt" insult after saying, "At least I don't put on makeup like a trollop every morning."

Look this up via search engines and especially on YouTube: McCain's calls Cindy a ______.

Posted by: DanaDash | August 13, 2008 10:11 PM

While the Post licks McGoo's nutty arse and gives us 13-part stories on lone dead interns still dead, here is some real news doing done by real journalists:
McCain adviser got money from Georgia By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer
Wed Aug 13, 5:42 PM ET


John McCain's chief foreign policy adviser and his business partner lobbied the senator or his staff on 49 occasions in a 3 1/2-year span while being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the government of the former Soviet republic of Georgia.

The payments raise ethical questions about the intersection of Randy Scheunemann's personal financial interests and his advice to the Republican presidential candidate who is seizing on Russian aggression in Georgia as a campaign issue.

McCain warned Russian leaders Tuesday that their assault in Georgia risks "the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world."

On April 17, a month and a half after Scheunemann stopped working for Georgia, his partner signed a $200,000 agreement with the Georgian government. The deal added to an arrangement that brought in more than $800,000 to the two-man firm from 2004 to mid-2007. For the duration of the campaign, Scheunemann is taking a leave of absence from the firm.

"Scheunemann's work as a lobbyist poses valid questions about McCain's judgment in choosing someone who — and whose firm — are paid to promote the interests of other nations," said New York University law professor Stephen Gillers. "So one must ask whether McCain is getting disinterested advice, at least when the issues concern those nations."

"If McCain wants advice from someone whose private interests as a once and future lobbyist may affect the objectivity of the advice, that's his choice to make."

McCain has been to Georgia three times since 1997 and "this is an issue that he has been involved with for well over a decade," said McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers.

McCain's strong condemnation in recent days of Russia's military action against Georgia as "totally, absolutely unacceptable" reflects long-standing ties between McCain and hardline conservatives such as Scheunemann, an aide in the 1990s to then-Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott.

Scheunemann, who also was a foreign policy adviser in McCain's 2000 presidential campaign, has for years traveled the same road as McCain in pushing for regime change in Iraq and promoting NATO membership for Georgia and other former Soviet republics.

While their politics coincide, Russia's invasion of Georgia casts a spotlight on Scheunemann's business interests and McCain's conduct as a senator.

Scheunemann's firm lobbied McCain's office on four bills and resolutions regarding Georgia, with McCain as a co-sponsor or supporter of all of them.

In addition to the 49 contacts with McCain or his staff regarding Georgia, Scheunemann's firm has lobbied the senator or his aides on at least 47 occasions since 2001 on behalf of the governments of Taiwan and Macedonia, which each paid Scheunemann and his partner Mike Mitchell over half a million dollars; Romania, which paid over $400,000; and Latvia, which paid nearly $250,000. Federal law requires Scheunemann to publicly disclose to the Justice Department all his lobbying contacts as an agent of a foreign government.

After contacts with McCain's staff, the senator introduced a resolution saluting the people of Georgia on the first anniversary of the Rose Revolution that brought Mikhail Saakashvili to power.

Four months ago, on the same day that Scheunemann's partner signed the latest $200,000 agreement with Georgia, McCain spoke with Saakashvili by phone. The senator then issued a strong statement saying that "we must not allow Russia to believe it has a free hand to engage in policies that undermine Georgian sovereignty."

Rogers, the McCain campaign spokesman, said the call took place at the request of the embassy of Georgia. And McCain campaign spokeswoman Nicolle Wallace added that the senator has full confidence in Scheunemann. "We're proud of anyone who has worked on the side of angels in fledgling democracies," she said in an interview.

McCain called Saakashvili again on Tuesday. "I told him that I know I speak for every American when I said to him, today, we are all Georgians," McCain told a cheering crowd in York, Pa. McCain's Democratic rival, Barack Obama, had spoken with Saakashvili the day before.

In 2005 and 2006, McCain signed onto a resolution expressing support for the withdrawal of Russian troops from Georgia; introduced a resolution expressing support for a peace plan for Georgia's breakaway province of Ossetia; and co-sponsored a measure supporting admission of four nations including Georgia into NATO.

On Tuesday, McCain told Fox News that "as you know, through the NATO membership, ... if a member nation is attacked, it is viewed as an attack on all."

Scheunemann's lobbying firm is one of three that he has operated since 1999, with clients including BP Amoco, defense contractor Lockheed Martin Corp. and the National Rifle Association.

Scheunemann is part of the community of neoconservatives who relentlessly pushed for war in Iraq.

No one in Washington is more closely aligned with the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq than prominent neoconservatives, who for years had regime change in Iraq as a goal as part of their philosophy that the United States shouldn't be reluctant to use its power, both diplomatic and military, to spread democracy and to guarantee world order.

Now, McCain and other politicians who pushed for the invasion are seeking to emphasize the progress, albeit fragile, of the current troop surge in Iraq.

In the months before the war began, Scheuenemann ran the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, set up in November 2002 when public support for the looming invasion was eroding.

Before that, Scheunemann was on board with the Project for the New American Century, whose letter to Bush nine days after the Sept. 11 attacks pointed to Iraq as a possible link to the terrorists.

The letter said American forces must be prepared to support "by all means necessary" the U.S. government's commitment to opponents of Saddam Hussein.

Scheunemann was among the letter's 37 signers, a Who's Who of neoconservative luminaries including William Kristol and Richard Perle.

If anything, Scheunemann's duties have been enhanced from McCain's 2000 presidential campaign, when Scheunemann also advised McCain on national security and foreign policy issues.

Earlier in his political career, McCain displayed the kind of caution that could be expected from someone who fought in Vietnam and was a prisoner of war.

In 1983, McCain urged U.S. withdrawal from Lebanon. "I do not see any obtainable objectives in Lebanon, and the longer we stay there, the harder it will be to leave," he said.

As the United States prepared for the first Gulf war, McCain was among a handful of members in Congress who began raising caution flags about the operation.

"If you get involved in a major ground war in the Saudi desert, I think support will erode significantly," said McCain. "Nor should it be supported. We cannot even contemplate, in my view, trading American blood for Iraqi blood."

Posted by: Christians Against McNut | August 13, 2008 10:13 PM

obiewan:

The fact remains that the Democrats tend to be better in governance than the GOP.

Witness the fact that in all your postings, you have yet to say a single proven positive point McCain or Bush has done.

All you have is juvenile attacks.

Posted by: Aldous | August 13, 2008 10:22 PM

A Point of Interest and Concern for those of us voting AGAINST McCain, as well as those voting FOR Obama: Why aren't we ensuring that these issues re: McCain become national issues of concern. Also, ABC - the World News crew, and who ever the corporate honchos happen to be - are McCain PR experts. Charles Gibson, George Stephanopoulos, and Jake Tapper can't get through a broadcast without pushing negatives against Obama. For example, two or three weeks ago, Gibson kept asking McCain during an interview, "Are you ready to call him (Obama) a flip-flopper?" AND Tapper, in particular, refers to any news items re: Obama as "pretty pictures." They don't even try to hide their obvious, over-the-top biases - their cheshier grins betray them everytime they discuss their exaggerated practically "push polling" for McCain and against Obama.

Posted by: DanaDash | August 13, 2008 10:24 PM

from near total reliance on foreign energy sources, the overtly zealous pro-foreign oil Republicans only wanted to drown us deeper in crude from overseas. Why do you think as a great nation we, in comparison to other European nations, have miserably failed to adequately build up and fund national mass transit infrastructures? This mess has been brewing and simmering to spill over a long time ago and we are simply witnessing the tip of the iceberg. Whenever the Democrats sought to bolster and secure the manufacturing jobs for the middle class the Republicans flooded the national dialogue during elections with emotional wedge issues, like school prayers, bias ethnic issues, and civil lifestyles. All the while, they rule by instilling bogus fears of liberal governance, banal labeling of their opponents as elitists and other concocted falsehoods. The only truly patriotic Republican that placed country first was President Eisenhower, since then most of the Republican leaders have insidiously, with utmost malice placed corporate interest ahead of our national interest. If you objectively study the historical facts of our past politics and governance, this mitigated conclusion is irrefutable and right on the money. A fair outlook at the overall grade in regards to our energy policies of the past thirty years and more, the Republican Party rightfully deserve a grade of F.

Posted by: Joey, Georgia USA | August 13, 2008 10:34 PM

My point has been made.

This troll has NOTHING to say about Randy Scheunemann. John McCain's "Top foreign policy adviser"...

And a guy who: was on the board of PNAC, is a neocon who relentlessly pushed for war in Iraq, and who was a lobbyist working for a foreign power but now works for McCain.

If you suggest that having someone like THAT in the White House is "the lesser of two evils" you are A) totally brain-washed or B) totally brain-dead.

Posted by: F&B | August 13, 2008 10:10 PM
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Even assuming that everything you say is true, it pales in comparison to the harm Obama will inflict on this country if he is elected president.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 10:38 PM

obiewan:

The fact remains that the Democrats tend to be better in governance than the GOP.

Witness the fact that in all your postings, you have yet to say a single proven positive point McCain or Bush has done.

All you have is juvenile attacks.

Posted by: Aldous | August 13, 2008 10:22 PM
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The Democrats have done an outstanding job running Congress since 2006. For proof just look at the price of gas for starters. Didn't they promise to reduce gas prices in the 2006 elections? Yeah, they are just who I want running the White House with Pelosi and Reid in charge.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 10:42 PM

Hey there Christians Against McNut, get a clue! NOBODY reads a post that long. WTH, does George Soros pay you by the word to spread this liberal BS? One other thing, you lefties have NOTHING on McCain and that is why NOBODY cares about the boring, lame lobbyist manure you are trying to shovel.

Posted by: obiewan | August 13, 2008 10:46 PM

Just joking everyone. I'm an Obama supporter.

After the past seven years of Republican sleaze and corruption, why anyone would support McCain. McCain is just another four years of Bush.

Posted by: obiewan | August 14, 2008 7:36 AM

Just joking everyone. I'm an Obama supporter.

After the past seven years of Republican sleaze and corruption, why anyone would support McCain. McCain is just another four years of Bush.

Posted by: obiewan the placebo | August 14, 2008 7:36 AM
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Is this your attempt at humor? Imitating little old me? I'm flattered you would even try but as we now see you just aren't up to the task. Maybe I should call you the liberal parrot. Liberal want a cracker?

Posted by: obiewan | August 14, 2008 9:22 AM

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