Ready for Indy

The Wizards will get their first glimpse at the new-look Pacers tonight at Verizon Center, and on paper at least, it appears to be an interesting matchup. The Pacers acquired F Al Harrington this summer and can team him with a pretty solid front line that includes C Jermaine O'Neal and SF Stephen Jackson. Jamaal Tinsley and Marquis Daniels are your men in the backcourt and Coach Rick Carlisle can dip into a solid bench that includes Darrell Armstrong, Danny Granger, former Maryland G Sarunas Jasikevicius and Jeff Foster.

Indy is 3-1 following last night's 97-86 home win over Philly and Carlisle has been working hard to get his guys to play better defense (sound familiar?) For a quick read on the state of the Pacers, read Indy Star beat writer Mike Wells .

The Pacers received a nice effort by reserve G Rawle Marshall, who came off the bench last night to score 16 points on 5 of 5 shooting.

Tonight's matchups will be interesting. Etan Thomas will get Jermaine O'Neal, Antawn Jamison will get Harrington, Caron Butler will check Stephen Jackson as he did last season, Gilbert Arenas and Tinsley will see a lot of one another and DeShawn Stevenson will be assigned to Daniels.

Carlisle has played Harrington some at C and used O'Neal at PF so don't be surprised if you see that and, like Eddie Jordan, Carlisle has gone to a smaller lineup at times when he wants to spread the floor and attack off the dribble. In Saturday's win over the Knicks, Carlisle used Armstrong and Jasikevicius together for the entire fourth quarter.

By Ivan Carter |  November 8, 2006; 9:52 AM ET
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People seem to be sleeping on the Pacers but I like them alot. Harrington and O'Neal have game, Daniels can do it all and just needs more polish and their bench is fairly deep. Yet they haven't really gotten much hype for advancement in the playoffs. We'll see I guess but I think the Pacers are pretty dangerous. Not dangerous enough to beat my Wizards at home but dangerous nonetheless.

Posted by: Jake | November 8, 2006 10:36 AM

Sarunas CatchMyCabbages will go Carlos Arroyo on us and score 20. We will give up easy buckets with the 2nd unit in there, and allow a couple guys to get hot for the Pacers. You know O'Neal will get his and I look forward to a tough battle down low. It will come down to whether or not we make big plays at the end of the game. This late-game will be dissected and the lapses throughout will be ignored. If we win, everyone will say that we have righted the ship; if we lose, you will hear that 'we need to get back to playing D' and blah blah blah.

Nothing is fixed and nothing is changed from last year people. The only real difference is that 'ared 'effries isn't dribbling off his leg and firing salvos at the backboard and getting overhyped as a defender.

We are a nice little gimmicky team that can score on bad teams. There is a struggle this year: Gilbert knows that the squadron was too reliant on him in crunch time last year. He is desperately trying to get his teammates involved so that they don't stand around and watch him on big possesions. What do we get? Jarvis Hayes jumpers with his foot on the 3point line out of timeouts.

IC, can you petition the coaching staff to revoke his 'license to pull'? How many bad jumpers do we have to see (by bad, I mean TERRIBLE shot selection) before we make a change? This isn't Michael Redd here. I have no beef with JH taking open jumpers in the flow but the 23 foot fall-aways make me want to start fist-fights with strangers.

We were all lied to. Everyone of us.

Posted by: Bernard King | November 8, 2006 10:46 AM

Thanks Jake, it's always great to hear such positiveness from a die hard Wiz fan, right? Could you be any more negative? It has only been three games and every team out there is trying to establish their game. Trying to see what works what best and what needs more work. Which players work well together and at what point in the game. The Wiz are no different.Give my Wiz a break, there is still time. Let's see, we have played three so that leaves.......79 games to go. Don't count us out yet. Geeze!

Posted by: wizfan4life | November 8, 2006 10:58 AM

Sorry Jake, my post was directed at Bernard King.

Posted by: wizfan4life | November 8, 2006 11:00 AM

I've read the fans' frustrations and the coaching staff's statements regarding defense, but it all comes down to this:

They were who we thought they were!

Posted by: Jones | November 8, 2006 11:17 AM

""Sarunas CatchMyCabbages will go Carlos Arroyo on us and score 20.""

Nooooo, it's "Passthecabbages" ;)

It's the only way I could remember his name when I was at Maryland. :)

Anyway, yeah he will score 20 and look like an all-star and Harrington will have a big night also.

Close game once again withthe Wiz shooting jumpers and the Pacers getting layups.

Pacers over Wiz 105-100 and people start calling for Jordan's head.

The Wiz never play the Pacers very well. Never.

As for the other thread, I never said Hughes was or was not overrated. I'm just saying the Wiz give up dudes who can play D for guys who cannot.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | November 8, 2006 11:40 AM

a few thoughts:

1) at beginning of second half of orlando game, you could tell how things were going to end up. the teams traded baskets - our two scores were a tough long shot, and a jamison flip through traffic that defied gravity to go in the hole. orlando got two layups, one one a pick and roll (btw - when are we going to learn how to defend that?). Though the scores were even, the difficulty differential in the shots was enormous and i knew we would not be able to keep up. it is about defense - even if our players are better scorers, and score more often on the same shot as our opponents, every player on the opposing team is a scoring machine if all they have to do is hit layups.

2. Gilbert is taking some shots (no pun intended) on this blog, and deservedly so. while he doesn't seem to be getting the calls this year, he is also not taking it to the hole as aggressively as in year's past. on one possession in the fourth quarter of the orlando game, dooling was on him like white on rice, clearly having been coached not to give him the open jumper. gilbert of last year would have driven by him - for some reason, he isn't doing that this year. sometimes you have to get pummelled with no call once or twice to start getting the calls.

3. gilbert's turnovers. for the last three years this team (not just gilbert, but he is perhaps the most notable offender) has made horrible home run pass attempts that run into turnovers. the team has to learn when to throw it deep or lob it and when not to. gilbert's soft lob attempt to a covered etan in the fourth quarter that turned into a turnover doesn't work (and wouldn't have put etan in a position to score easily so risk/reward made no sense). that being said, his turnover when trying to do a cross over through two players to get to the hole is fine - that is gilbert's game, and if the coaches suppress that, he loses his edge. better decision making.

4. why can't we rotate? against our defense, a pass out from the post on the double by the opponent, followed by two passes along the three point line seems to always leave someone (usually their hot shooter) wide open.

5. eddie and his timeouts. it seems he ALWAYS waits two possessions too long for a time out, and looks at the score and not the run. if we are down 2 and go down 8 he calls the timeout a possession too late. if we are up 8 and go to 2 up, he seems to never call a timeout. i think that this is very material as to why no lead is big enough. the team also gets out of its defensive mindset if the other team makes two shots when we are playing good defense. suddenly two good hard shots against good wizards d begets three layups, no timeout to stop it, and a 10 point run against us.

now the good news - we have been competitive in each game we lost, and in both those games gilbert was not himself; if etan's play is not a fluke, when gilbert gets it together, we will be very tough. if hayes starts to contribute positively off the bench (and he is more than capable) we will have a decent bench, and a very strong starting five.

on the haywood trade - concerned that etan will get hurt, and w/o haywood where would we be? that being said, wood is so petulant that he may not contribute even in that circumstance. problem is - i just don't see a big man out there that we can get. swift is a career malcontent, and while getting rid of haywood might be like getting rid of atkins (addition by subtraction), bring in another headcase doesn't work.

tonight's game rests on antawn (who has been making timely opponent run breaking baskets). harrington is much more athletic and can score; if we can win that one in the box score, we win. tall order tho.

Posted by: charles jones | November 8, 2006 12:05 PM

Arenas seems to be concentrating more on actually playing the point so far this year. He is making good decisions, passes, and running the team. At some point he will start attacking the basket more (hopefully tonight!). Defenses seem to be really focusing on stopping him so far, but is it just me or does he just not look as quick as usual?

Interested to see how Etan does against O'Neal, and if he can continue his very high level of play. Harrington will have a big game on 'Twan, and Passthecabbages will have a career game probably. Hopefully Hayes can get it together and counteract with some bench scoring of our own.

Pacers are a definate playoff team... we should beat them at home, if so this would be a very good win!

Posted by: Darnell | November 8, 2006 12:20 PM


Here is where I disagree with you:

1) We are supposed to know what we have. That is what 'continuity' is supposed to do for you.

2) We are repeating the same formula as last year; say we are going to play D, don't, and try to outscore people. Play close games, win some/lose some. This formula got us 44 wins last year. This year, it will get us less because everyone got better except us.

3) Of course I am negative. THEY LIED! it was all lies. I am livid that I even began to believe the lies for a second.

4) We learned last year (or should have learned) that wins are so precious. You can't always wait for a surge. They must be stockpiled. Losing to an 8-seed or worse team and giving up 117 to the Celtics should have the alarms going off.

5) Restating a bit here, but I have seen this play before and I know how it ends.

I just want them to do well so badly.

Posted by: Bernard King | November 8, 2006 12:43 PM

Interesting comments on Sarunus. However, he is day to day and did not play last night. Apparently he hurt his back while lifting luggage in his house. So he may be off his game tonight--God willing.

Posted by: steiner1 | November 8, 2006 1:04 PM

Hey Ivan, just wanted to say saw you on Comcast and you did good job. They should get you to do a Wizards weekly show on there, like a weekly recap and preview of what's ahead with news and analysis. They are really lacking on that type of thing there, and that show they have with Dave Johnson is ok but really has no substance. I guess NBC has the Fullcourt press which is ok, but they don't always focus on the Wizards. I mean how annoyed would people be if their Redskins Report show was actually 4/5 of show talking about other teams around NFL and college football??

Posted by: Darnell | November 8, 2006 1:04 PM

I guess its time for me to let everyone in on the reason why Gilbert is struggling...Ok, everybody ready? It's Deshawn Stevenson!!! That bama aint made a shot this year except for his comfort spot in Orlando. I got the league pass cause I'm outta the Wiz market so I hear the other teams' commentators all the time(which I hate because there's no team better than Steve and Phil) and Orlando seemed thrilled he was gone. He got replaced by Keith Bogans for pete's sake!! And Keith is actually playing better ball than Stevenson right now. What happened to all the talk about how adujusted he was to the team and the offense? I agree with B.King on that one(as much as it pains me to say that). We've been lied to, folks. Teams don't even bother to check Stevenson and send an extra man at Gil, which forces him to pass(not his strong point) the ball more. Its hard to go to the rim(strong point) when you got 2 guys standing in your way. Jordan should switch to Jarvis or Mason jr. so the D won't double up on Gilbert as often as they do. At least the thought of Jarvis or Roger shooting keeps them honest enough to stay with them. But as long as Stevenson is in, we're in for a long season. But at least he didn't cost 30 mil.

Posted by: c.bell | November 8, 2006 1:18 PM

the problem i foresee is that with jamison on harrington, it will basically be like etan is guarding oneal and harrington. that will be too much for him. he could handle howard vs orlando because battie is such a non-factor. but harrington and oneal combined will be too much for etan to overcome. haywood will come in and do no better, and everyone will again be complaining about center being our weak spot, but in reality it is jamison.

Posted by: poptart | November 8, 2006 1:28 PM

Ivan, can you ask Etan if he's got Bob Marley on his Ipod? If so, ask him if he likes the song "Crazy Baldheads"?

It's got lyric "chase that crazy baldhead out of town"! He can sing that to Haywood.

Posted by: Darnell | November 8, 2006 1:38 PM

Why so much negativity?

The Wizards are a fun competitive team that lost 2 close games on the road to potential playoff teams. And the season is 3 games old. I just don't get it. Can we relax and let them play ball for a few weeks before we get over-analytical?

Calling for trades, dissing the star players. Over the course of any given game, every player is going to make a few mistakes. Gil's positive plays far outweigh the negative plays and Jamison's 20/10s far outweigh his lackluster D.

Plus, they are so much fun to watch, win or lose.

My $.02

Posted by: Nickels | November 8, 2006 1:41 PM

you guys are flippin over 3 games . miami lost by 42 in the opener . bynum for lakers is mvp of league so far so should the season end now ? by the way mr. king we won 42 not 44 last year

Posted by: honeest abe | November 8, 2006 2:10 PM

Honeest Abe, these games count just as much as the games at the end of the season. If we don't get some of these winnable games now, we will pay for it at the end of the year. We supposedly kept our continuity, and our guys got together and worked hard this offseason. We should have an advantage over these teams right now that are making alot of adjustments. If we can't beat these teams now, what makes you think we can beat them later. But we can take your attitude of "hey lets just be happy with our team because they are fun to watch, and they are nice boys. Let's don't care if they lose, or don't play defense because we like them and it is fun". It is fans like you that perpetuate the consistant losing while the front office promotes other team's stars coming to town. When we miss the playoffs you won't have your happy loser entertainment will you, but you didn't think about that did you buddy? Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee?!

Posted by: Darnell | November 8, 2006 3:03 PM

Please, Gil's struggles have nothing to do with Stevenson. Gil has Jeffries playing next to him for two years, and Arenas still put up big numbers. It has nothing to do with Stevenson, who, incidentally, has taken only 15 shots. Let's hold off judgment until he's had time to hoist a few more up. Gilbert is struggling because he's shooting poorly and he's turning the ball over. Many of the shots he's missed so far through three games have been open jumpers, not the result of double teams or effective rotations. So let's not start blaming Stevenson, or anyone else, for Gilbert's problems thus far. Let's look squarely at Gilbert and realize he's the reason he's been struggling. Will he snap out of it? Most definitely. If he plays anywhere close to his normal level against Cleveland and Orlando, the Wizards are 3-0 right now. But, whether they were 3-0, or whether they are 1-2, as they stand now, this team would still have the same problems. At least at 1-2 they don't have a false sense of confidence.

Posted by: Colin | November 8, 2006 3:03 PM

Not sure if it's been mentioned here yet, but Bill Simmons (ESPN's "Sports Guy" and Page 2 contributor) had this to say of Gilbert in his recap of Week 1.

"Remember when Michael Jackson started hanging out with Emanuel Lewis and Bubbles the Chimp and getting plastic surgery on his face every other week, and then he made the "Bad" video and everyone came to the collective realization, "Uh-oh, he's gone crazy?" I think we're still about 18 months away from this moment with Gilbert. But anyone who can spur a phenomenal blog report titled "Arenas: I'm not quirky" and inadvertently prove that, yes, he's extremely quirky, is a force to be reckoned with. If he starts wearing one glove and hanging out with Walt from "Lost," watch out."

Funny stuff about Gilbert, and a nice nod to this blog. Congrats guys.

Posted by: bryc3 | November 8, 2006 3:11 PM

I know how many games have been played broseph. I also know exactly what happened last year after 82 + a playoff loss. I am incensed because we are headed for that same level of play again this year. Instead of this 'next step' we were promised, we are getting a bowl of lie stew that tastes really good going down, but makes you throw up after your squad still can't stop ANYONE.

I can't help you if you can't see the same things. I will keep hammering this until everyone realizes it or I die in a horrible accident, we are the same team as last year with the same problems. Continuity doesn't do a thing for you if you have problems carry over.

I'm going to win the lottery and marry Kiera Knightly. Just because you say things doesn't mean they are so. You've seen how awful the D has been thus far and you know how this play ends.

Watch any of the top 4 seeds from either conference (except Phoenix) and see how many layups they give up in the half court. You'll be stunned.

Posted by: Bernard King | November 8, 2006 3:19 PM

I'll be at the game tonight...section 101, row S...right behind the wizards and my friends will definitely try and get Big Baby Haywoods attention...on a serious note, it will be interesting to get a full view of everyone's attitude on the always seems as though Big Baby is on the end of the bench, pouting to andray blatche...

Posted by: DC | November 8, 2006 3:28 PM

Back to my post from yesterday - I'd like everyone to pay attention to Jamison on the defensive end tonight. I do not care if he scores 20 most nights . . . he'd need to score at least 40 every night to compensate for his defensive lapses. If this were hockey, his plus/minus would be -25. I just feel that, for $14 million (and our highest paid player this year), the Wizards should be putting a complete player at the PF position. While most of the Wizards are defensively deficient to a degree, he is completely deficient.

Posted by: MDP | November 8, 2006 3:38 PM

J. O'neal probably out tonight due to sprain ankle from last nights game. Rick Carlisle on John Thompson show.

Posted by: poptart | November 8, 2006 3:56 PM

How can you say Stevenson isn't the reason? When Jared was here, at least he would take his man away from the top and post him up, or hit the boards, or shoot a three. Who cares if it went in, at least he shot it! Stevenson is just hanging around the backcourt getting in the way. How many 2 guards you know only takes 15 shots through 3 games? And what really ticks me off is that he is an excellent athlete but I've yet to see him attack the rim!

Posted by: c.bell | November 8, 2006 4:08 PM

Oneil out? you know what that means...

get ready for some "small ball"

Posted by: poptart | November 8, 2006 4:10 PM

darnell, we are 1-2 . last year we started very well 4-1 the fell off so a fast start doesnt mean anything if you dont keep on winning and a slow start means nothing if we pull together and win 50 or so games . you shouldnt drink so early in the day it makes you stupid as i notice by your comments

Posted by: honest abe | November 8, 2006 4:12 PM

"Big Baby is on the end of the bench, pouting to andray blatche..."

Sounds like when Samaki Walker was here whining to Kwame Brown in 04-05.

Go Wizzzzzzzzz.

Posted by: dc | November 8, 2006 4:14 PM

Harrington will kill us inside now, because Eddie Jordan will have Etan AND Brendan on the bench while the Pacers score layup after layup. Jamison will be center and Harrington will score 40 uncontested points! Add to that Jasikevicius puting up at least 20 and this will be another excruciating evening to watch.

Honeest Abe and Nickels will be happy though to watch our "fun" team, and chalk it up to another tough loss to a "playoff caliber" team.

Posted by: Darnell | November 8, 2006 4:16 PM

dont watch if you dont like how the team is going . i'll be have a cold one in the club level bar after the win

Posted by: honest abe | November 8, 2006 4:19 PM

oh and the cavs lost to the hawks in cleveland last night heard they were gonna trade the king for it and not play again this season

Posted by: honest abe | November 8, 2006 4:23 PM

Actually, the Wizards play pretty well at home so I expect a win. I'll be there enjoying a few cold ones and enjoying some exciting basketball, preferably with a win. Etan is going to teat these fools up.

If we win our next three (all at home) and get to 4-2 will people relax a little and enjoy the team?

Posted by: Nickels | November 8, 2006 4:31 PM

Is there any way the Wizards can outfit Haywood with some goggles that are tinted with some deadlocks on the lenses in a way that will make all opposing centers look like Etan? He would be good for 20 and 15 every night.

Posted by: Henry | November 8, 2006 4:39 PM


Sit down. Take a Valium. Put a cold compress on your forehead. Relax, dude. It's only 3 games. Right now Philly's 3-1. Atlanta's 3-1. Dallas is 0-3. Phoenix is 1-3. Do you think these records are indicative of the way the season will play out for those teams?

Get a grip, big guy! If the Wiz are 5-15 after 20 games, then we can panic.

Posted by: Keithinator | November 8, 2006 4:48 PM

""Oneil out? you know what that means...get ready for some "small ball"""

Lol! You know it!

Arenas will probably be at the 5 spot. ;)

""Why so much negativity?""

We're hard on the Wiz right now because they are giving up even more layups and points then last year. We're all fans, but we expect them to do better then they are. They look pretty bad defensively and they talked all summer how they were trying to improve that and it doesn't look like it at all.

It's way too early on the Stevenson thing, but if his struggles continue I would think Hayes would replace him at some point down the road.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | November 8, 2006 5:03 PM

I'll try to get some injury updates on the Pacers prior to tip and post it up.

Posted by: Ivan | November 8, 2006 5:26 PM

Are there rules against using actual facts when commenting on this blog? Or is it a hyperbole only zone?

Posted by: Wondering | November 8, 2006 5:38 PM

Come on, Wondering. Don't you live in Washington? Facts aren't necessary; you can make your own reality.
And would you believe facts cited by people named "poptart," "nickels" or for that matter, "Percy"?

Posted by: Percy | November 8, 2006 6:51 PM

Jermaine O'Neal and Sarunas Jasikevicius are going to play tonight.

Posted by: Ivan | November 8, 2006 7:00 PM

I lied, or actually, the Pacers said O'Neal was going to play and they put his name on the pregame scoresheet as a starter but he's in a suit. Out with an ankle injury.

Posted by: Ivan | November 8, 2006 7:31 PM

as discussed above, jamison's box v harrington's was the difference, particularly on assists and steals. dominating win. we had the advantage of o'neal being out and indy being on the end of a back to back, but we did what you are supposed to do in that situation - knock 'em down and keep kicking them. i think we only won a couple of games by plus 20 last year (hawks, not sure if there was another).

Very solid win.

Posted by: charles jones | November 8, 2006 10:16 PM

Wow. That was awesome. We scored 37 points in the 3rd quarter. Obviously, we were on fire. If there is a way we could have that same defensive intensity we rocked in the 3rd all the time, we'll win 50 like you guys keep saying. I hope that happens. That was just dominant.

Really helps when your star shoots 70% from the floor.

Either way, I'm an a$$ and will remove myself from prognostication for a period of two weeks as punishment. Bang.

Posted by: Bernard King | November 9, 2006 9:16 AM

Good news! If the playoffs started today, the Wiz would be seeded higher than the Heat! What a wonderful thought!

Posted by: CJ Baltimore | November 9, 2006 9:51 AM

Good news! If the playoffs started today, the Wiz would be seeded higher than the Heat! What a wonderful thought!

Posted by: CJ Baltimore | November 9, 2006 9:51 AM

I'm with you BK! What a great win! Defense looked real good in 2nd half, and we turned it up and put them away! I thought Jamison played good, and looked like he was trying harder to defend and rebound. Arenas was awesome, and overall the team looked great.

I am so happy Eddie did not go small ball, which I expected with ONeal out. He let our centers play tonight, and Etan and Brendan both responded and played well.

Everyone did good, played hard, shared the ball. These are all the things I have been wanting to see, and last night I saw it. Hope we keep it up, sustain the effort, tighten up some things and continue to improve. This is a good step in the right direction.

Posted by: Darnell | November 9, 2006 10:01 AM

overall i was very pleased with coach jordan's substitution pattern. he did a great job rotating players. we had good size and scoring throughout the game as far as personel. we did not go to small ball, ruffin came in some actually at pf, the centers played all game, daniels was good off the bench, and hayes started to hit some shots.

eddie jordan deserves credit for this win because he did great managing the game and on his rotation. As I blamed him for the Cavs loss due to poor substition and strategy, this game he deserves the credit for the win.

Posted by: poptart | November 9, 2006 10:08 AM

Wow, I was wrong...

...but I didn't realize the Pacers played the night before and they weren't going without Oneal.

They ran out of gas late in the second quarter for sure.

I wish they would play like that every night.

One play that stnads out in my mind was one series when Jamison was on a fast break and pulled up to take a JUMPER when the lane was free. He hesitated, then drove to the basket.


The Wiz lack a "killer" instinct, even the announcers mentioned this. A win is a win either way.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | November 9, 2006 10:11 AM


That Jamison play stands out to me, too. But he seemed soft while he was driving down the lane. It just bothers me.

Posted by: Jacko | November 9, 2006 11:49 AM

Jamison is not Kevin Garnett. He will never be Kevin Garnett.

What he is is a very effective scorer around the basket and from the perimeter. Someone who can create his own shot, score off broken plays and is an excellent finisher off loose rebounds. Someone who does not need plays called for him to score. Someone who will get you 20 and 9 every night.

If you're looking for an Amare Stoudamire or Dwight Howard or Elton Brand, sorry, they're not available. But Jamison is a darn good player regardless.

Jamison plays with heart, he is a class act, and his mature and focused attitude leads this team - a team that will win 50 games this year. You can pick on his defense all you want, but this is a 50 win team with his contributions regardless. Is that not good enough for you? What do you want 60 wins? Move to San Antoinio.

Get off Jamison's case and on the bandwagon.

Posted by: Wei | November 9, 2006 12:49 PM


Calling out Jamison's poor defense is not 'piling on' the guy; it's simply a statement of fact. Being a Wiz fan doesn't mean being a mindless booster no matter what. Nothing wrong with examining the team's strengths - AND weaknesses.

I though Antawn really turned up the defensive intensity last night, in fact. He looked lost on D for the first quarter and a half, then started bearing down.

Another positive that hasn't been pointed out yet is Blatche's play. Sure, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from inside the barn, but he hustled, played solid D, passed well, and was aggressive going after rebounds. Very impressed with the kid last night.

It was also good to see Gilbert driving hard to the bucket again. Now he needs to do it on the road.

Posted by: Keithinator | November 9, 2006 1:06 PM

Whoever said the reason Gilbert is struggling on offence this year is because of Stevenson is full of crap. Gil put up over 40 in both home games this year. And his only really off night was the opener. And gil always struggles in those type of games.

Hell I'd even wager Gilbert could put up 25 to 30 a night with Abe starting at SG.

Posted by: dc | November 9, 2006 3:08 PM


Jamison may not be an all league defensive player, but let me let you in on a few secrets: Ben Wallace can't shoot worth a dang. Tim Duncan can't hit free throws. Yao Ming is slow on his defensive rotations.

If you are hoping that one day Jamison wakes up and is Dennis Rodman, well, you just may be spinning your wheels.

The point is, yes, every player could improve is some are, but harping on Jamison's defense when he makes so many other important, positive, and valuable contributions is tiresome.

Posted by: Wei | November 9, 2006 4:11 PM

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