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James and Cavs Part II

So it's LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers again. Only problem is, the Wizards won't have Gilbert Arenas and Caron Butler this time. Either way, the Wiz did their part with a close win over the Pacers tonight. The odd thing about covering this game was that while I paid attention to what was happening on the floor in front of me, I was also watching a broadcast of New Jersey/Chicago on a courtside TV while furiously refreshing scores from other games on my laptop.

Miami Coach Pat Riley laid down to Orlando by benching Shaq and D-Wade, and Cleveland messed around at home with Milwaukee until putting them away in the fourth. That left Nets/Bulls and Wiz/Pacers. The Nets were up big but Chicago made a run (here we come Detroit, Toronto or maybe Chicago). Then, the Wiz started to struggle. (Uh oh, Detroit it is). Then it was down to Cleveland or Detroit once the Nets pulled away from the Bulls late thanks to some hot shooting by Nachbar. The Wiz made it interesting as they always do but ultimately won because, well, the Pacers are terrible.

So here we are: Wiz and Cavs. No Gilbert. No Caron (don't believe the hype about him coming back at some point in this series. I hear he's done 'till the second round and that's if by some miracle they get there). The good news is that is is probably the best matchup for this Wiz squad. It's LeBron a little Larry Hughes and not much else.

Jarvis: "Hey, let's go play and see what happens. I'm just glad to be in the playoffs. I made it!"
Antawn: "Nobody thinks we're going to win and that's fine. I like the underdog role."
Antonio: "I'm excited. I don't care what anyone else thinks, we're in and I'm excited."

By Ivan Carter  |  April 19, 2007; 12:10 AM ET
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Obviously the Wiz should have no chance, but "that's why they play the games." Who knows, maybe LaBron gets hurt and we take them deep into the series just for fun.

Posted by: larry roberts | April 19, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come out and support this team in the playoffs at the VC. Every Wizard fan should be proud of the way this team fought down the stretch. They gave it everything they had and deserve to have a great home court advantage in the playoffs. We have absolutely nothing to lose, and the fans should look at it this way. Give these guys the support they deserve.

Posted by: bigswish3 | April 19, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Win or lose this series could be fun.

The Wiz gets the scrappy underdog role, no shame if they lose--and LeBron gets exposed as the ridiculous nail-biting whiner that he is.

I surely hope we get to see his pouting bawling & the traveling salesman act this series. How much worse would that look when his squad is on court vs. the wounded never-say-die reserve team. Hes' crying and getting the advantage of all the calls while the are just scrapping away, doing what they're paid to do. Shut up and play.

I think we could surprise them and play a close game or two. Frankly I don't even care if they win one.

Hope? We move the ball well. Brendan plays Big Z well. We know what they're about. The game plan. We have a chance to protect the baseline if Eddie plays the Big line-up (Bulletproof plus Haywood, Jamison at SF). Deshawn and Daniels protect the perimeter better and ain't no Jefries trying to play roaming free safety-- out of position of most rotations trying to patch too many holes at once. Are we still doomed, sure why not, but as the native americans say: 'Hoka hey. Today is agood day to die.'

All I know is if we're even close in one game the phone booth is going to be off the hizzo. And if we actually win one, either in CLE or here, it's gonna be utter madness. Lose your composure. Lose your voice. Loud.

Can't lose. We playing basketball in DC in late April. World's gone crazy again.

Posted by: doclinkin | April 19, 2007 1:06 AM | Report abuse

If the Wizards play tough grind it out defense & keep the score close just like they did the last time they played the Cavs, they'll have a chance.

Posted by: | April 19, 2007 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Did anybody read Jermaine O'Neal is to be traded this summer?

Posted by: jaa | April 19, 2007 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Expect a hard foul or two from DNote, Darius Songaila, 100-dolla-bill.

I'd love to see a little more Silent Cal. Especially next to 'Proof. BUt we can afford to go Big because Mike Brown loves hisself the halfcourt.

This is the series when Blatche can grow by leaps and bounds. He gets to see Gooden (who kills us) and Varejao (another high energy Big). Valuable lifefire experience for him to stow away over the summer, digest, dissect and analyze for the next go 'round.

I think if and when we go Big we can smother them, make it tougher. Force them to win with outside shots not baseline highlights and hijinks.

Whatever. I'm just looking forward to a few hard fouls.

Could be I've got just got emotional problems, but hey, right, I'm a long term Bullets fan. Goes without saying.

Madness. Madness...

Posted by: doc again | April 19, 2007 1:21 AM | Report abuse

This is a good matchup for us, maybe even better than the Raptors. We've only had one blowout loss since Arenas went down which is encouraging.

Go Wizards!

Posted by: juandixonformvp | April 19, 2007 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Game 1 is set for Sunday at 12:30 p.m. Game 2 is Wednesday night, 8 p.m. Let the good times roll.

Posted by: Ivan | April 19, 2007 1:45 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards should go big in this series, but EJ never does. It's the one lineup he never fields, and I don't understand why. He's so ridiculous. Now's his chance, though. Put the middle on lockdown.

Posted by: Colin | April 19, 2007 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, Sunday at 12:30 p.m. Don't they know the Wiz don't play well on Sunday afternoons? Well, ok, we'll give Cleveland a shot at winning one game before we close em down :))

Posted by: Mitch | April 19, 2007 6:37 AM | Report abuse

The biggest problem with Les BouleS being in the playoffs is that the mistery and pain will be dragged out over at least 1.5 weeks because of the way the games are spaced out (2 days between games). Talk about a slow death. Oh well, nobody's forced to watch anyway...

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 19, 2007 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Why was everyone sweating Orlando???

From my understanding is the only way that Wizards would have finished with the 8th seed is if new Jersey and the Wizards loss and they finished in a 3 way tie.

Posted by: dc | April 19, 2007 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Cleveland is a much better matchup than the Raptors. The Raptors are a better 3-pt shooting team, and have dominant offensive big-man in Bosh. Cleveland has LeWhiner, and a bunch of role players. In game 1, Cal Booth should hold up James likes Voskhul held up Arenas, and let Antonio Daniels fall into James' knee on one of AD's kamikaze drives. I'm kidding, I don't want any part of James to be hurt...except maybe his feelings.

Who should gaurd LeBron? DeShawn? Jarvis? I say, sit Jarvis, and put in Blatche, and let the big man annoy James.

Posted by: Tuna | April 19, 2007 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I agree. The Cav's are a better draw then Toronto. All the Wiz have to do is contain one man, vs. a slew of men from Toronto who can all hit a 3's at anytime.

All the pressure is on the Cav's, not the Wiz. I am starting to like this. If the Wiz can go about 85% to 90% on their free throws they might surprise some people.

Again, EJ I appreciate you putting the "personal stuff" aside and letting Haywood get some "run". Don't give up on Blanche because of that shakey game he had yesterday. He was due one bad game. Don't forget about Mason, give him some "run" too.

I liked that lineup of AJ, Blanche, Haywood, Daniels, and Stevenson. I hope you let them get some "run" together as a unit. Etan is still looking good so I will give him his due again.

Posted by: mikie | April 19, 2007 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Well 2 weeks ago we said it was all about heart and to be frank I have to say I was impressed by this stretch run despite the losses. We lost because we were outmanned but not out hustled. I agree that the Cavs are a good draw. Let James have his 40 but contain Hughes, Varajou, Z, Marshall, Gooden and stay close. Obviously rebounding will be key as well and Blatche must step up, particularly on defense.

There is a little part of me that would not mind seeing us fall on our face and get horribly swept so that Ernie G will be convinced that major changes are essential. But then the real fan in me steps up and I slap my face and say Go WIZ! Let's go out and shock the world!

Posted by: BmoreRev | April 19, 2007 8:50 AM | Report abuse

It's imperitive that EJ go big so that Jamison doesn't have to spend gobs and gobs of energy gaurding and fighting with Drew Gooden. If Blatche isn't gaurding James, he should be gaurding Gooden. Gooden KILLS the Wiz, and therefore, the Wiz cannot let Jamison gaurd Gooden. Of course I have contradicted myself, as if Jamison isn't gaurding Gooden, who is gonna guard, James? Not a chance. Sigh.

Posted by: Tuna | April 19, 2007 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I hate that Varejao. Sideshow Bob. Does he ever look in the mirror to see that hair???? Doesn't it scare him??

Posted by: DC G | April 19, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

These teams know each other very well, but the Wizards have been forced to adopt a slower pace on offense. Brown seems to love to grind it out so these games will be way different than last year's series.
Stay close hope for a break and try to steal it at the end, and play them one game at a time.
The league took some heat on a couple of LeBron's plays last year. So they may be making a real effort to look like they call it straight up with him. Like Arenas, it can get in his head if he gets charging fouls called on him. So if we get a little help from the refs we might be able to steal a game or two and turn it into a series.
We are way undermanned but you have to give these guys credit. Other then the Chicago game the effort has been there game after game. If you're a Wizards fan you've got to be pulling for these guys.

Posted by: GM | April 19, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

fire the coach he sucks

Posted by: keep it rel | April 19, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

When Varejao speaks I almost expect to here Kelsy Grammmer's voice! Maybe we need to bring in Bart and Lisa, they always seem to be able to foil him in the end!
Or maybe people could show up with really long fake fingernails on and see if the crowd could freak out Queen La Travel. Could you see it, 20,000 people all with really long finger nails. The guy might chew his own off up to an elbow and disable himself.
Back in the 70's when Dick Motta was our coach we were known for some really zany crowds at the old Cap Center. Hell, we may as well have some fun with this and think up something to freak out the Cavs and fire up the crowd.

Posted by: GM | April 19, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I say let Jamison hang out with Gooden and Marshall - neither one will have monster games no matter who's on them.
Then tell Blatche that he has no responsibilites beyond being LeBron's shadow. As long as Jarvis has the same mindset when he's in to blanket LeBron (and not to throw up long range bricks) we might just have some real games. Has LeBron proven yet that he's able to take a series of hard fouls?

Posted by: JCfor3 | April 19, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I agree with most of you - Cleveland is less high powered offensively than Toronto, so this matchup given our injuries is probably better for us. Also, Brown isn't any great shakes as a coach, so for once we should be in a push position with the coaching approach.

We need to go big for sure. Brendan needs to play whenever Ilgauskas is playing - he owns Z. Etan, on the other hand, gets owned by Z. Fortunately Z doesn't play huge minutes, so we should be able to do spot matchups and keep both Etan and Brendan fresh.

Best case is that DeShawn can play Larry at close to even. Neither PG is much of a scorer but AD should have speed advantage over Snow.

As mentioned above, need to keep Jamison fresh. Problem is: he has to play either the three or the four. That means he has to play the four. Moving him to the three puts him on LeBron which isn't happening. Also, Blatche will get crushed by refs if he covers LeBron, no matter how clean he plays him.

With Blatche and Songalia off the bench we should be able to match up ok with their bench, tho they will have an advantage with their smalls.

End of the day, we have very little shot to pull the series out, but there is a chance. Major problem is that even if we play flawlessly, unlikely that the NBA won't mandate through the reffing that the Queen moves on.

Posted by: charles jones | April 19, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Don't think the Bullets have a great shot in this series, but if you look at the individual matchups and the Cavs bench/supporting players, they arent THAT much better than the Bullets.

Snow, Hughes, Varajou, Z, Pavlovic, Marshall, Gooden, Jones...I know some of them have killed the Bullets in the past (Snow, Jones etc.), but they arent world beaters.

I'm guessing Jarvis will match up against Lebron, and will NEED to play him tough - keep him under 25/28, limit his chances, and make him pay for going to the hole. My memory is pretty has Jarvis done against him in the past?

Posted by: the cheat | April 19, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

The only way the Wiz can win this season is if:
1. Jordan seriously outcoaches Brown. I think at times Jordan needs to go big, other times really big (front line of Haywood, Thomas, and Jamison), and other times small. Full court press, zones, the whole deal. Channel crazy Don Nelson and dictate what's going on. Just running the offense and doing the usual stuff won't be enough.
2. Jarvis plays at or near his ceiling the entire series, both guarding James and on the offensive end.
3. Blatche somehow finds a way to bother James the way Jeffries did in last year's series. The Wiz have to keep James on the perimeter.
4. Jamison has four monster games.

Posted by: Henry | April 19, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

In addition to containing LeBron, the Wiz will have to make sure they cut off his passing lanes. He's very adept at picking through a defense with his passing.

Somebody tell Bulletproof LeBron is actually KG in disguise!

Posted by: iceberg | April 19, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Cavs in 5.

Too bad there is no Arenas to choke on the FT line this time around.

Posted by: 761-091 | April 19, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I can't understand why, with Butler and Arenas out, Blatche isn't getting more minutes. He was playing incredible, high energy, efficient basketball when he stepped in for Jamison and when Eddie does put him in the game he gets on the offensive glass, blocks shots, and makes good looks. I understand that there are guys with more experience on the bench but it seems like Blatche brings alot more to the team than Songalia, or Hayes when his shooting is off the mark which is more often than not. With Lebron and the cavs coming up I think Blatche would match up very favorably with Lebron. Afterall, the guy held his own against Garnett.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 19, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"It's imperitive that EJ go big so that Jamison doesn't have to spend gobs and gobs of energy gaurding and fighting with Drew Gooden. If Blatche isn't gaurding James, he should be gaurding Gooden. Gooden KILLS the Wiz, and therefore, the Wiz cannot let Jamison gaurd Gooden. Of course I have contradicted myself, as if Jamison isn't gaurding Gooden, who is gonna guard, James? Not a chance. Sigh."

Put Stevenson or Jarvis on LeBron and let Jamison guard Snow. Snow could have the greatest offensive game of his life and still only score 13 points. It's much more important to keep Gooden off the boards with Blatche or Songalia and let Jamison rest on D (which he does anyway).

Posted by: Anonymous | April 19, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"It's imperitive that EJ go big so that Jamison doesn't have to spend gobs and gobs of energy gaurding and fighting with Drew Gooden. If Blatche isn't gaurding James, he should be gaurding Gooden. Gooden KILLS the Wiz, and therefore, the Wiz cannot let Jamison gaurd Gooden. Of course I have contradicted myself, as if Jamison isn't gaurding Gooden, who is gonna guard, James? Not a chance. Sigh."

Put Stevenson or Jarvis on LeBron and let Jamison guard Snow. Snow could have the greatest offensive game of his life and still only score 13 points. It's much more important to keep Gooden off the boards with Blatche or Songalia and let Jamison rest on D (which he does anyway).

Posted by: Charlie32 | April 19, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Get the brooms ready, cause the Cav's are gonna sweep us. What a disappointing way to end the season. I can't wait until they unload most of the roster. Get Haywood, Hayes, Thomas, Ruffin, Taylor, and Mason out of here. They all should be in the NBDL.

Posted by: S.O.S | April 19, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"I can't understand why, with Butler and Arenas out, Blatche isn't getting more minutes. He was playing incredible, high energy, efficient basketball when he stepped in for Jamison and when Eddie does put him in the game he gets on the offensive glass, blocks shots, and makes good looks". Unknown Poster....

Contract year for Blatche, my friend. As I have said before, the Wiz can not afford for the kid to "show to much" because they have a certain amount of money to give to him out of that 5 million exemption.

A crazy contract offer from another team will force the Wiz to match and then mess up their signings for Stevenson, OPEC, This year's #1 pick and possibly Navarro in Spain. Navarro is making about 2.5 or 3 over there and he is going to want the same thing here.

The Wiz will be "real close" to the luxary tax threshold. If Butler had not gotten hurt, you would not be seeing much of Blatche.

Don't worry though, after he signs a 5 or 7 year contract, Blatche will be seeing major minutes next year and then probably starting the year after next because that is when Jamison's contract ends. Remember, although this is a sport, it is still a business.

Posted by: mikie | April 19, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Did Stevenson play man-to-man D against Lebron at any point this year? My memory on who guarded who is pretty craptastic...

I'll say this: if Lebron goes ape-s$%t and kills us with 35-12-8 every night, tearing up whatever combo of Constable, CantFeel, and Bulletproof EJ throws out there, fine. Let it be. I dont by the whole Lebron is savior hype, but he is a damn good player, and if he finds himself even more in the playoffs without our toughest player going at him.

But if the Bullets get embarrassed by the Cavs with Lebron being held to 20/25 and any combo of Gooden/Snow/Z/Jones/Marshall killing us night after night, then I'll be pissed. This team has to show more heart and not let a bunch of "past their primes" and "never has beens" walk all over them.

Posted by: the cheat | April 19, 2007 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the Wizards have much of a shot to win the series, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do a lot better than all the sportwriters and commentators expect. This time around, they've got more guys who can take turns on Lebron, and Stevenson is a good matchup on D against Hughes. Z never does very well against Haywood. The challenge for the 'zards is going to be putting points on the board, particularly at crunch time. Antawn predictably will come up big, but they can't afford any 1-7 shooting nights from Stevenson or Hayes. Blatche has been in an offensive slump lately--he seems to have lost confidence in his jumper and his ability to get to the rim--but who knows, maybe he'll get it going too.

Posted by: Patrick | April 19, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

"Also, Blatche will get crushed by refs if he covers LeBron, no matter how clean he plays him."

This is my fear. I love the idea of Blatche on 4 steps McGee, but this is the playoffs folks. The superstar is going to get the calls over a near rookie.

Posted by: Columbia Heights | April 19, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Another consideration might be that Blatche has been playing really poorly lately.

Posted by: Mitch | April 19, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Another advantage of going big and playing Jamison at small forward is that James will need to guard him.

Posted by: Sean | April 19, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Superstars get the calls in the playoffs, but the league and their TV partners also LOVE an underdog giving the favorite an unexpectedly scrappy 1st round series.
Two years ago both us and the Bulls were the new kids on the block as far as the playoffs were concerned. We got a pretty evenly called series. Last year, as young as we were, we got cast as the team that had advanced in the playoffs vs. the new young superstar leading his team into the playoffs for the first time. Lebron got to play the underdog and the superstar at the same time. He parted the water and took 4 steps to the basket and the rest is history.
This year if we sock em in the mouth early and play them tough and physical we could gain Cindrella Status. If Jamison can offset Lebron's scoring we can turn this into a series of our other guys vs. theirs.
That's a hugh job for AJ, but in the last few games I see a shift in his thinking from being a second or thrid option to realizing this team will go only as far as he'll carry them. And Lebron is as much liability on D as Jamison is and their bigs aren't quick enough to chase AJ around.
Blatch has a chance to help in this series as high energy guy, but his minutes will be determined by how well he can execute on offense. This new slower paced style that EJ is playing dictates mistake free basketball. Songalia and Stevenson will be the two real wild cards, we'll need their jump shooting to make these games close.
These guys are beginning to get a tough, battered, and bruised, us against the world look about them. Could we push it to 6 and have the Butler trot out and pull a "Willis Reed" on them?
Before you laugh and say I'm crazy, remember Reed only played three minutes. But the crowd and his team went so wild they won anyway. If we could push it to seven that would be a victory, hell I'd be happy if we pushed it to 5.

Posted by: GM | April 19, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

ej sucks

Posted by: keep it rel | April 19, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

It's clear that most of the people posting these messages are into fantasy because they have no clue about the real game of basketball.

The Cavs are #1 in the NBA in offensive rebounding so they get a lot of easy putback points. The Wiz have no one to cover LeBron including Blatche, Jamison, and Stephenson.

I love that Wiz fans drink the kool-aid but they played the Cavs close last game because King James had one of his worst games of the season shooting. People call him a whiner but what do you think Gilbert is?

Good try but sweep or 5 games at most. Go home and make some moves that result in playoff series wins then give me a call.

Posted by: Alex | April 19, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Even though we're probably out in the first round, I'm glad we made the playoffs instead of tanking. Three playoff appearances in a row! That's worth celebrating, after being away for so long.

All I want to see is some fight - then it's on to the draft and the free agent market.

Posted by: Gonzo, MD | April 19, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Um..Blatche, a restricted agent, is already set to be signed by Wiz. Ivan announced that last sunday. He's not being saved or hidden. Jordan had to balance out his wins and losses to position himself with the team with the best match up & would give Wiz best chance in playoffs.
"The Cavs" Sports Talk discussed it ad nauseum
(I saw somebody on here posted an article about it. Wiz did just that Cool move on Eddie's part)

Now Chicago has the problem match-up w/ Miami. Skiles ego bigger than his team. Miami will likley kill them again.

Somebody said Jermain O'Neal being traded.
He's been hurt a bit but now I understand he's just don't want to play. Any news?
That would be 2 big men on block this summer - O'Neal & Garnett.

Posted by: ball | April 19, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

761, Arenas won't be around to hit the 30-footer to tie the game in the final seconds either.
How about putting Donell Taylor (probably our best defender on the bench) on LePutz. I thought he did a decent job on LePutz in the last game. Blatche on Gooden (Andray will do by far the best job keeping that soft schmo off the boards) and leave Jamison on Marshall who is pretty much a spot-up shooter and that's it (it shouldn't be too taxing on him). And for the love of God EJ, please play Haywood this series so that Z can be rendered a non-factor like last year.
And Alex, get a clue, most of us here no that it is unlikely the Wizards will win, but just the same we are all trying to figure out ways to win. If you don't want to read that, then piss off to some other message board that worships LePutz.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 19, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"Um..Blatche, a restricted agent, is already set to be signed by Wiz. Ivan announced that last sunday. He's not being saved or hidden". Ball

Ball - True, the Wizards are set to sign him, but as a restricted free agent another team can "still" offer him a contract at any amount. The Wizards have the right to match it. "Restricted" does not mean "only" the Wizards can offer him a contract.

Thus, if a team offers AB a 3 or 5 year contract (after seeing him tear it up with increased playing time) at 4.5 or 5 a year, the Wiz would have to use their whole 5 million dollar exception to "match" it.

Poof!! There goes their plans of using the 5 million to "split" between AJ and Stevenson, vs. keeping AB to limited minutes so that he does not get as much exposure.

"Jordan had to balance out his wins and losses to position himself with the team with the best match up & would give Wiz best chance in playoffs". Ball

You lost me on this statement. What does that have to do with Blanche? What does this statement mean? thanks...

Posted by: mikie | April 19, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

First time poster -
Anyone notice that this build of the Wiz is eerliy similar to Earnie's build of the Bucks? Earnie does not get D.

Anyone notice the EJ has never been credited with D? When he was with the Nets, he was credited with bringing in the "Princeton Offense." I think he is lost trying to teach D.

Lastly - Vs Cavs - I am thrilled to get the Cavs. They stand around so much, it is an easier style to play against. I totally agree with the comments about the Wiz needing to play Big. Eddie won't do it, but it would be a great move.
Major Kudos to the Wiz for fighting hard without Caron and Gilbert.

Thanks guys

Posted by: Columbia - Wiz | April 19, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

With Gasol that makes at least three. From some of the things I've been reading there are a number of Vets that will be on the move. Could be a year that someone could be had for a bargain basement price since there are several teams rumored to be in salary dump mode.
Rumor was that the Bulls only offered a first round pick, P.J. Brown(for cap releif) and either a future #1 or a player that wasn't Deng, Gordon, or Hinrich and then pulled that offer back for Gasol.
Thought is that Memphis, Seattle, Sacramento, Minnesota, the Knicks(if they can find any takers)are all going to be in salary dump mode. Portland still has a few contracts that they'd love to move. And the Clippers are always frugal and spent some money and disappointed, so look out there. New Orleans spent alot of money last off season but now has to sign David West and Shinn has always been a known penny pincher.
Mr. Pollin has been critized by some for not wanting to pay the luxury tax, but league wide teams are trying to get under it. EG has manuvered to have a number of expiring contracts this off season so we have some flexibility plus three players overseas that we control right now.
With the expiring contract players that could be used in a sign and trade to offer cap releif to a team, our draft pick and Haywood who is signed to a reasonable contract EG does have some peices to work with. And outside of the big three I don't think there's an untouchable player. As much as I like him it wouldn't shock me if Blatche could be included if we see the chance to make the right deal.
Our chances of getting a first teir guy like Garnett or O'Neil might not be so good. But there are other guys out there that might be in our reach. I agree with Ray, I'd love to see Gasol at center for this team.
But I'm sure EG will be busy this offseason, he might even give Alex a call!

Posted by: GM | April 19, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

What about a first round draft pick & maybe Blatche or Song or_________ plus a bench player for KG, O'Neal or Gasol?

I've read KG - O'Neal, Pierce are very frustrated & unhappy. Gasol? waiting on largest offer.

Isiah is already going after tyson Chandler - not sure how that'll play out.

Are they going to cut Clips Thomas?

Besides Gasol, anybody with Grizzlies worth takin a look at? Some of the tanking teams will be open to trading. Anyone look decent?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 19, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

To many "road miles" on KG and O'Neil to give up Blatche. I really believe Blatche is going to "blow up" to an all star player.

You can see the potential. This would be his what, 2nd or 3rd year in college? He would easily be a top 5 pick this year if he had went to college.

EJ got a steal. I would suffice to say Gil, Caron and Blatche are the only ones on this team that should not be touched.

No disrespect to Jamison though, but if the right deal comes I would have to give him up. Only because of his age and that is it.

Posted by: mikie | April 19, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Did any of you guys see the outlook for each NBA team for the off-season they did on It was outstandingly depressing.

Here is a basic paraphrase:

-We have tons of $ tied up in 2 centers and are stuck with them for the next several years.
-Arenas can opt out after next season and likely will if he doesn't see the team taking enough steps to win a title.
-Stevenson will leave and command a ton of $ that will kill our already limited cap space if we want to re-sign him
-hayes is a FA (this is happiness in my heart...OK I'm done dancing...)
-We'll have to decide on Blatche who's rookie contract is up.
-Jamison is in the last year of his deal and will be our only chip to bargain with
-the rest of our guys are re-treads who will be released
-We have extremely little room to sign anyone and we know that Pollin will NEVER pay the luxury tax
-We'll be the 6 seed again next year while Lebron, Wade, the Pistons, and the Raptors keep winning.
-We won't have any dollars if we decide to bring in Oleg Tektarov and Juan Carlos...the draft picks we have that don't play for us.

Summary: We won't have a SG or PF on the roster again, no shooters, no one that can guard anybody and very little room to sign anyone. Basically, not making a deal this year was incredibly short-sighted.

Posted by: Bernard King | April 19, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Did any of you guys see the outlook for each NBA team for the off-season they did on It was outstandingly depressing.

Here is a basic paraphrase:

-We have tons of $ tied up in 2 centers and are stuck with them for the next several years.
-Arenas can opt out after next season and likely will if he doesn't see the team taking enough steps to win a title.
-Stevenson will leave and command a ton of $ that will kill our already limited cap space if we want to re-sign him
-hayes is a FA (this is happiness in my heart...OK I'm done dancing...)
-We'll have to decide on Blatche who's rookie contract is up.
-Jamison is in the last year of his deal and will be our only chip to bargain with
-the rest of our guys are re-treads who will be released
-We have extremely little room to sign anyone and we know that Pollin will NEVER pay the luxury tax
-We'll be the 6 seed again next year while Lebron, Wade, the Pistons, and the Raptors keep winning.
-We won't have any dollars if we decide to bring in Oleg Tektarov and Juan Carlos...the draft picks we have that don't play for us.

Summary: We won't have a SG or PF on the roster again, no shooters, no one that can guard anybody and very little room to sign anyone. Basically, not making a deal this year was incredibly short-sighted.

Posted by: Bernard King | April 19, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Les BouleS' best chance at winning is having AB in the game. Given that, if the rumors are true that they are putting AB on the shelf so that he won't get a huge contract offer from another team this offseason, then why should we take this team seriously? Why?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 19, 2007 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey, DCMan88/ Clewiston88/ ClueLessOne, you don't like Gilbert Arenas but you'd sure go for Rasputia in the new Eddie Murphy film, Norbit:
Now we know why you are such a jerk.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

"Besides Gasol, anybody with Grizzlies worth takin a look at? "

I wouldn't mind seeing Mike Miller in a Wizards uniform.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for printing that Bernard. Ivan said that last sunday during the half-time break when he was on 980 and they do need a bench because who they have are very sub par - D league material at best.
Side note:
Last reading - GA still not speaking w/EJ.
He said "hello" once since before his injury. Will speak with teammates - not EJ.
What a mess. -

Berbard, I agree - because management's attitude towards $ - the most they will be is 1st or 2nd rnd fodder. They have to spend money to get some talent.

Can we agree with Bernard King?

Posted by: Rob | April 20, 2007 1:32 AM | Report abuse

"Summary: We won't have a SG or PF on the roster again, no shooters"

Right. Jamison, Songaila, Blatche -- no power forwards on the roster. Go away troll.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2007 2:32 AM | Report abuse

cavs are an early 12 point favorite for sundays game.....should i go ahead and put a 50 dollar bet on the wiz to lose by 12 or less? or you guys think the cavs will run all over us?

Posted by: k-man | April 20, 2007 4:02 AM | Report abuse


You're pretty insistent aren't you? Don't worry, I won't bother viewing the link you attached. It's not worth it. Thanks for thinking about me though.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 20, 2007 7:42 AM | Report abuse

DC88, Looks like you have perhaps one or the other: a fan, stalker or he/she wants to be like you? Giggle

They can't hardly steal your thunder.
Keep postin and keep us laughin.

Posted by: Robin | April 20, 2007 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Benard King, ESPN.COM's anaylsis of the Wizards is a classic case of piling on a team when it's hip to say they're toast. Some of their football guys have been calling for the Patriots to implode for years. I think you can really objectively look at the Heat, Cavaliers, and Pistons and create just as a depressing picture.
What if LaBron or Wade opt out???
Two teams full of bloated contracts and Vets that have seen better days. The Pistons have been trying to put together one more run this year and will have to retool. But Dumars is the man to get them back to where they want to be just like EG is here.
First of all is Stevenson opts out the Wizards only have seven players under contract next year. Arenas, Daniels, Butler, Jamison, Thomas, Haywood, and Songalia, based on this year's salaries they made a combined 53m. At current luxury tax levels that leaves 12m to fill 8 roster spots.
Blatche is number one that has to be signed. Anyone of the three Euro guys can be delayed a year until Jamison's 15m comes off of the books and we will still retain their rights. Want to make any bets if there are no deals what the chances of us drafting another guy that we have to wait for are? In that case I'm thinking Splitter would be a good bet.
Jamison and his agent and EG need to all get creative. His 15m is a hugh bargaining chip. Teams that want to dump a long term contract will crave a guy in the last year of his deal that will be a good Boy Scout and not carve up their team chemistry in the year he's around. There are alot of other trades out there, but Jamison and Daniels plus a first rounder for Gasol and Miller would have an upside for both teams.
But Jamison likes it here, and we like him. He could look at a whole different approach. If he gets his 15m this yr. and then is a FA then he will most likely settle for a 5-6m mid cap exception to find his way back onto a winner, because I can assure you if he gets dealt it will be to a team that's decided to tank it for awhile.
He could look at opting out and then resigning with the Wiz for something like a four year deal for say 8m per year.
In the long run he'd get his money back in a multi-year deal and would avoid a year of losing and trying to catch on with another team, and we'd gain about 7m of cap room to work with.
With 19m EG's job gets alot easier, first of all Stevenson turned down a 3 yr deal at 3m per year and had to settle for about 1m he got from us. What makes anyone think he's going to get a hugh deal on the open market? Is it the way he took over and carried this team on his back and won games at the buzzer when Butler and Gil went down?
He'll be back, he'll either opt out and get a moderate contract or he'll decide to wait a year and hope the Wizard's give him a good boyscout deal.
All and all, EG has alot of flexibility and this team has a bigger upside than most. Could it all implode, sure we've been there before. But I'm excited about this offseason.

Posted by: GM | April 20, 2007 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Robin, what thunder are you talking about? No lightning bolt...he's just irritating. But perhaps that's what you meant by thunder.

Did anyone see the Playoff Preview Show last night on NBA TV? Of course, EVERYONE is counting the Wiz out....most of them predict we will be swept. Eddie Jordan was interviewed via telephone and did at least keep the analysts laughing. Fred Carter told Eddie that he must be glad he signed the extension before the season went down the tubes. Eddie laughed and said "yes...when we went on that 6 game losing streak, I would have been fired." Also said Mike OKoren kept urging him to sign it.

Peter Vecsey asked Eddie for his strategy to win games since he had "no talent." Even though I'm sure Vecsey did not mean it exactly as it sounded, I hope the Wiz players heard that remark and respond in a big way.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 9:07 AM | Report abuse

"Berbard, I agree - because management's attitude towards $ - the most they will be is 1st or 2nd rnd fodder. They have to spend money to get some talent" Rob

Rob they are spending money, but it just has been spent in the wrong way on some players. Ernie's only mistake with his stint here as GM was matching the Bucks contract offer to Etan a couple of years ago. I believe Ernie just got here, so he must had took the advice of someone on the Wizard's scout team or Eddie's to match the contract and keep him.

That contract of Etan's is so "complex" it really makes it hard for Ernie to move him. That is why it is so imperative Etan keeps playing the way he is, because with that national exposure Ernie might be able to trade him to someone. With him sitting on the bench Ernie would never had been able to get anything for him this offseason.

You and Bernard King should not be to down about next season. If Ernie is about to trade Etan, that will open up about 7.5 or 8.5 in cap room. That my friend, is good news.

However, if Etan is still here; Ernie will probably have to trade Haywood (which he does not want to do, but Eddie would like to see it done) to get maybe another "type" center or SG in return.

They can not create "cap room" because they have to make trades and get a "salary" in return that is within 15% or 25% (????)of each other.

The only way they could get cap relief by trading Etan or Haywood is to trade to one of the three teams that are under the cap, where they can take on the salary and then give us a draft pick in return instead of a player or players. (I could be wrong on this, so someone jump in and correct if I have it wrong).

Now fast forward to 2008. That is when we will be looking real good. Jamison's 18 million cap hit will be coming off of the books, because he is going to use his player option this year to cash in on the extra year. Can you blame the dude?

With all that cap space available, we will be able to "run the tables" with the free agent class. If Gilbert decides to "opt out" and sign a new contract, the Wiz will still have a lot of cap room left to get a good free agent as long as Gilbert does not try to break the bank.

Gil said he would not do that if it meant the Wiz needed more money to sign a "great addition". So I will take Gil's word at that. To summarize, we will be fine next year and the year after that is when Jamison's contract comes "off of the books" and Ernie will be in a position to make some moves like the Bulls did this year.

Posted by: mikie | April 20, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Good post GM. I did not see yours when I first read BKings and Rob's post, so I had to respond to it. If I had saw your post before I started mine, I would not have wrote it. You hit the nail right on the head with your salary breakdown and numbers.

This is why it is always good to gather knowledge for yourself vs. listening to media types who are giving information on what the team is "giving" them.

Posted by: mikie | April 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

GM, thanks for that analysis - made me feel a lot better after reading Bernard King's.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse


You're clearly the only woman on this blog that knows what you're talking about. Given that, you're more knowledgeable than a lot of the girly boys here too. Thanks for the props.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 20, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Mikie, Either way it pans out the Wiz have retained alot of cap flexibility in these coming years. Cleveland and Miami have hugh messes to deal with. And star players that have contracts that will allow them to head for the bright lights of the "big cities" if things aren't panning out the way they'd like.
It would be nice if some of the Post writers would spend a little time on this subject as we roll into the off season. But I'm sure Dan Steinberg and the "where a player should be after season ending surgery police" are on assignment. They probably have Gil's dumpster staked out to see what he's eating!

Posted by: GM | April 20, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Thanks GM - I can agree.

Ivan said pretty much same last week.
They've already made assesments on most of the players. Hayes supposedly gone.
Stevenson - prob gone as well. Marc Stein listed him as one of Most Improved. congrats to him for that. You both said basically same. Obviously, this is all speculation so the best and only thing is to wait and see.

Re: My post to DC88?

I think DCman88 keeps it interesting.
It looks like he makes himself laugh!

How interesting would this blog be if everybody all said the exact same thing?
He's been colorful at times but hopefully we're past that now. Besides, it appears Mike & Ivan found what he has to say concrete enough to print it and respond to his questions. Having worked for the Post once upon a time-thats pretty good.

Remember Iron sharpens Iron. Thats how we all get better. Same for Wiz - tougher the competition - the better they will become.

Posted by: Robin | April 20, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Great posts by Mikie and GM. Ivan has made it clear that we will do anything to keep Gil after next season. While he can always opt out, keep in mind that there are not going to be many teams that have the money to sign him. Those that do may well want to save their money to make a run at King James the following year. This is particularly true of teams that have good prospects. Along the same lines, if Gil wants to leave here, it presumably will be for a team that can win the championship. Since the teams that typically have the kind of cap money available that Gil will command aren't good, that also bolsters the likelihood he will stay.

I don't see us keeping DeShawn. Blatche is a must keep. With the big fellow coming over from Europe, the key add this off-season will have to be some kind of 2 guard. I'm guessing EG will grit his teeth and trade big for small (!) getting rid of Haywood - the positive to this is that for Haywood's talent and reasonable contract, we ought to be able to get a pretty good 2.

K-man - 12 is a pretty big number, and I'd be inclined to take it - I'm not sure I'd jump on it now, as I am guessing that the number will go up as we get closer to game time.

Couple of series odds if anyone is interested -

Take Cavs - 1-20, Take Wiz - 15-1

Bulls 2 gets you 1, Miami 1 gets you 1.5 (this is surprising to me, notwithstanding home court)

Houston 2 gets you 1, Utah 1 gets you 1.5 (this will be a great series)

Toronto 1.6 get you 1, NJ 1 gets you 1.4

The other series are all big odds, tho no one is favored as heavily as the Cavs.


Posted by: charles jones | April 20, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I think the Wiz will keeep Stevenson. He's a good fit here and although he's earned a pay raise, no other team is going to break the bank to get him. Even without Bird rights the Wiz have the best bargaining position.

I think they'll probably try to trade Haywood as well, but I don't think the chances of getting a good (better than Stevenson) starting SG for a backup C are all that good.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Some very good posts GM, but here is my question. Is there anyone under the cap that would want to take Thomas' contract. Maybe if they are young team and need a good leader, they might, but it seems to me the only way the Wizards can move Thomas is if they get a similarly bad contract in return.
Now I bring up Brad Miller again only because he would be a perfect fit for this offense (even though we would be worse defensively). I wish we could get Tyson Chandler away from the Hornets.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 20, 2007 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Isiah Thomas has already made offer to Tyson C for NY. Trying to fit the former Bulls players together - Curry, Chandler and Crawford.

Posted by: Robin | April 20, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Robin, sorry but it's impossible to "get past" being called a "c$nt" and "moron" by someone just because I disagreed with him about Gilbert. I'm sure the guys on here will not be able to "get past" being called "fudgepackers" either.

So you can enjoy him if you like but being called horrible names by someone who only enjoys sticking a knife in Gilbert (and the team in general) is not amusing and funny. I'm sure you would feel the same way if he called you those names.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Actually Lisa, I try to live in the present not the past. But quite frankly, I wouldn't put too much into an anonymous typed comment. How is it "personally offensive?" Is he "looking at your person?" No. Give 3 warnings - if ignored -Report it -"Keep it Movin." Whats behind us should stay there. Ivan addressed it.

In the scheme of it worth it?Just remember what happened to those kids & professors at VA Tech. Life is short.

Step over foolishness that distracts and "Keep it Movin" The Wizards did and are in the playoffs. Thats something to be glad about today. Now, GM & everyone are trying to figure out our roster..thats something else to be glad about.

Posted by: Robin | April 20, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, Robin...I will NEVER be able to move past being called a "C$NT!!!" by a KID! So you can stop calling me "foolish" - that was a "foolish" remark in and of itself.

I am moving on from this topic, however, because I really want to focus on the Wiz. In fact, that is all I've wanted to focus on this season but one person on this blog did not see it that way. Just wanted to "Gilbert and Wiz bash."

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse


Chandler would be a great fit (never thaought I'd say that, I used to hate the guy) but I don't see any reason in the world the Hornets would part with him. It's also very unlikely that any team with cap space would use that much of it for Thomas. He's a solid backup on most good teams and not enough of a difference maker for a bad team to spend that kind of money on him.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Robin, you are a wise woman and a woman who will go far because you are not going to let petty BS hold you back. I like your outlook.

All the REAL haters out there need to stop hatin' and need to move on with their lives. Maybe some people won't be called the "C" word if they didn't act like one.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 20, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"Now I bring up Brad Miller again only because he would be a perfect fit for this offense (even though we would be worse defensively)". George T.

George - I would work with trade. That gives us a legit 7 footer who can "bang down" that faceup "j", just as one of those "Euro" centers could.

I don't have anything against Etan, but I just have a hard time with him playing the "5" instead of the "4". Although EJ's thinking is he is not mobile enough to play the "4" and that is why he keeps him at the "5".

This is probably the same reason why he never puts Etan and Haywood in together because they both demand "block" time and EJ probably feels they will get in each other's way.

That may all be true, but I do not see why they can be in together at the end of tight games when we are playing "offense/defense with the sub's. How much harm could that do??????

IVAN/MIKE - Could you please ask Eddie why he never plays Haywood and Etan together on some series?????? Thanks......

Posted by: mikie | April 20, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why there's so much hype over Brad Miller. He made absolutely no impact during the world championships and watching him play, he looks like a complete stiff. His claim to fame is almost being knocked the "F" out by a wild Shaq haymaker.

Given that, if I were to target a center for trade, I'd try for Chris Kaman. He's a very active guy, legit 7 footer, young, and only costs 3.5 mil (Miller is 9.6 mil). I don't know how their contracts are structured, but every time I've seen Kaman, he looks active (and also looks like a psycho with the long hair, but has since cut it).

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Kalorama, I'm with you. Would love to have Tyson Chandler - even though I used to despise him (when he played for the Bulls). The Hornets seem to love him and he seems happy to be there as well. He was very complimentary of Chris Paul in an interview I saw recently.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I used to like Miller's game, but he really seems to have peaked and trailed off. Plus, as much as he may offer offensively, the absolute last thing the Wiz need is to get worse defensively. The primary thing they need from a center is a strong, active physical presence in the low post and on the boards. That's not Miller (even on offense, he's a high post/face the basket player), whatever other positives he brings.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

You reinforced both my points kalorama. My main point is that the only way anyone takes Thomas is if we get a bad contract in return. My other point is that I wished we could get Chandler, I can't imagine there is anyway we could.
And I am not hyping Miller as a panacea for all our problems, DCMan, far from it. I am throwing him out there because the Kings might look to dump him and it is a person we might have a shot at.
In terms of another C with a bad contract that might fit kalorama's description better (The primary thing they need from a center is a strong, active physical presence in the low post and on the boards.) I was going to suggest Joel Pryzbilla, but I can't make it work because he (Pryzbilla) is a base-year compensation player.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 20, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

DCMan, I might add that I would love for the Wizards to get Kaman, but I think that is as unrealistic as them getting Chandler. I don't the Clippers are that dumb.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 20, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Please, not Pryzbilla. He's injury prone, offensively inept and, despite putting up nice shot blocking numbers, a woeful individual defender.

And Kamen just signed an extension over the summer, so his salary is going to go up dramatically.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

If you try the NBA Trade Machine on you will find it as difficult as I did. By the way to get all the Bullets/Wizards fans in the mood as the playoffs start go here:

Posted by: George Templeton | April 20, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

George, very true, but they were also dumb enough to offer up Elton Brand for Kwame Brown. So, does that make the LA Clippers dumb, but Les BouleS dumber for not taking it?

BTW, I was calling for Tyson Chandler a long time ago. I did a trade machine for GM, and it worked. We give up Gilby, and they give up Chris Paul and Tyson Chandler. Of course, they would be dumb to give up both those guys for Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 20, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

A good point DC Man, but I don't think the Clippers are that dumb now. In any event, because of the extension that is about to kick in for Kaman, a trade for him will be difficult. What is tough is that we are already running out of Centers to trade for that might be available.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 20, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Chandler the one player Brendan always got up to compete against? For whatever reason - he did not like Chandler.

Who BTW J. Paxon w/the Bulls now says - seeing how well Tyson has developed -perhaps they made a mistake in trading him so quickly. Said its little too late but not upset with himself. Jerry Krause selected baby Chandler and Curry. Both are now just starting to develop. I see your point about Blatche. Brendan would have a Big Brendan fit of the Wiz got Chandler.

Posted by: Robin | April 20, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Well I actually was able to make a trade work for the Wizards to get Chandler (completely unrealistic). Daniels + Haywood for Chandler.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 20, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The thing about Kamen is that salary escalation that the Clippers are looking at. Did somebody say I don't think the Clippers are that dumb? Wow! If there is a team that has given away more players that went onto to be stars in this league and got nothing in return I can't think of them.
They disappointed this year and Stern is a notorious tightwad, he's dumped players before to get cheaper alternatives that he can control on the cheap for a few more years. Before Brand they were rebuilding about every third year, I'm not convinced he won't revert to his old ways and start dumping salary.
Gasol for Daniels and Etan with Jarvis thrown in on a sign and trade would work. We'd have to send along at least two first rounders to make them bite at that one. If they would end up with Durant I could see an upside for them. Veteran point to run the team and distribute the ball, servicable active NBA center, a wing guy that has shown flashes and maybe needs a new start. And a couple of shots in the draft to pick up somebody in the draft. And nobody has a cap busting contract.
We'd get a long center 7'0" with a 7'6" wingspan, tough rebounder, good low block scorer that can pop out high and really pass and shoot. He's not the world's best defender, but he does fill space in the lane and really keeps his arms up.
If they'd want Brendan instead of Etan it might cost us a little more money in the form of resigning Booth, Ruffin, etc. and shipping them along to make the salaries fit.

Posted by: GM | April 20, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Actualy, Les BouleS of the West didn't get good until Sam Cassell got there. He was also responsible for getting Les Wolves to the Western Finals. Cassell has championship pedigree and was hurt most of this year, along with them losing Livingston.

Cassell, Dunleavy, and Brand are the main stays there, and the main difference this year is that Cassell was hurt most of the year due to his bad back/old age.

I would think any trade by Les BouleS this year would require them to give up AB. Most of Les BouleS players are pretty much maxed out in terms of ability. AB is the lone question mark.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 20, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

"If they'd want Brendan instead of Etan it might cost us a little more money in the form of resigning Booth, Ruffin, etc. and shipping them along to make the salaries fit."

A team can only use players in a sign-and-trade if they have their Bird rights. Booth doesn't have any. In fact, aside from Ruffin, none of the Wiz's FA have any (because they haven't been signed to the team or played under the same contract for 3 years), so they couldn't be included in any deal this summer.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Make that "aside from Ruffin and Jarvis."

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Miller news in re:
Kings coach Eric Musselman
and a tidbit about our coach Eddie Jordan.

The Kings' basketball president plans to spend the next 48 hours meeting with his players and, from all indications, firing head coach Eric Musselman. Then comes the hard part: hiring the right coach and making the necessary roster additions/deletions to ensure that next season isn't a repeat of 2006-07.

Re: Eddie Jordan -

The season was 1997-98, and "Eddie Jordan" was head coach of a squad that featured an aging, disgruntled Mitch Richmond and included Olden Polynice, Otis Thorpe, Billy Owens and Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf. Williamson was the second-leading scorer. Tariq Abdul-Wahad was a rookie. A local product and former ballboy named Michael "Yogi" Stewart routinely earned the loudest applause, his energy and effort exceeding his size and talent.

The ensuing offseason makeover became the stuff of near-champions: Former owner Jim Thomas fired Jordan and, after a lengthy flirtation with Paul Silas, hired Rick Adelman

Eddie's been around.

Posted by: peterss2 | April 20, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone notice that this build of the Wiz is eerliy similar to Earnie's build of the Bucks? Earnie does not get D.

Anyone notice the EJ has never been credited with D? When he was with the Nets, he was credited with bringing in the "Princeton Offense." I think he is lost trying to teach D." - "Columbia - Wiz"

He actually put together that beat-em down Knicks team of the 90's. Do your homework.

Posted by: Nara | April 20, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Kalorama, So we send them Ruffin. I don't think there would be many tears shed around here over that. For whatever reason EJ and Daniels have never clicked. If Daniels could have a strong post season he may cement his rep as a strong vet point gaurd. The kind of guy you'd love to have around to teach a group of young puppies how to play.
There is no love lost between Brendan and EJ either, and EJ doesn't seem to particularly like rookies. So if we package Daniels, Brendan, and two first rounders EJ will be happy.
If we manage to send along Ruffin and Jarvis 99% of the posters here would be estatic. Memphis can't get out from under Gasol's deal fast enough, and I think he'd fit the Princeton offense to a Tee. So everybody's happy!
EG has the rest of the summer to work out a deal for Navarro. Get OPEC and the Russian over here in summer league and decide if they're ready. Decide if Taylor and Mason can be our 4th and 5th gaurds. And then look for a couple of guys for those final roster spots. Do you bring back Booth and Hall or can we find upgrades?
Working a new deal with Jamison makes all that real easy, if not then some really tough choices have to be made and a flawed roster could result with too many D League quality guys on the end of the bench like this year.
I think back in Jan. Ray and I were discussing the roster and I concluded then that EG may need to go to ABE and say we need to go over the cap or I need to move Jamison to take another step. In the end I think ABE will pay a little to keep Jamison around. But that's just me.

Posted by: GM | April 20, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

"Kalorama, So we send them Ruffin. I don't think there would be many tears shed around here over that. "

No one said there would be. But it would take more than that, salary wise, to get the deal done. To say nothing of the fact of why they'd want Ruffin. Or a resigned Jarvis. Kamen is a legit 7 footer who can score (with either hand) down low and rebound in traffic. Teams don't just give guys like that away for castoffs like Haywood, Ruffin, and Hayes.

Posted by: kal;orama | April 20, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

EDIT: I meant Gasol not Kamen. However, everything I said applies equally to both. Unless they're trading Gilber and/or Caron, the Wiz have nothing to offer that would entice either of their curren teams to trade them.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Comcast just reported that Gil is on the plane with the team heading to Cleveland and that he called all the Cavs word what that was about.

Posted by: Lisa | April 20, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Kalorama, Daniels and Haywood add up to 10m. Why would they take them? Both moderately priced Vets that can hold down the fort until their number 1 plus our number 1 this year, plus two number 1's next year develop.
It probably wouldn't take Ruffin's salary to make it work If Jarvis went along on a sign and trade. I don't think Hayes is as poor of a player as most on this site do. But I also don't think he'll get big money in this year's market, to many guys not alot of buyers in this market.
They'd gain three moderately priced vets and two draft picks, if you look at their ownership situation, they are in rebuild mode and want to operate on the cheap for awhile. Jerry West can walk away feeling like he put a young core in place for the future.
We'd get a starter at center. They might get a better deal, but they didn't before the trade deadline. Supposedly they only got offered two firsts and P.J. Brown and another player and Chigago pulled that off the table. Deng, Hinrich or Gordon were never in play according to the Bulls. They wouldn't have kept Brown past this year, so they'd have ended up with 2 picks plus one player from the Bulls that wasn't from their top 8.

Posted by: GM | April 20, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

If we start thinking about next season, some things to consider...

Is Blatche our Center of the future?

Is Pecherov our PF of the future?

Do we draft Jeff Green at 16 to be our SF of the future?

Will Juan Carlos Navarro finally join the Wizards?

Do we keep Stevenson, or go into next season with Arvis as our starting SG?

Do we trade Haywood, and what can we get for him if we do?

Posted by: Darnell | April 20, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

GM, you make a well-reasoned argument but not a very convincing one. Big trades involving major players in-season are generally pretty rare, as teams usually get better offers in the offseason as their potential partners have a better picture of what their assets are (i.e., draft position, where they stack up in their respective conference and playoffa/title contention, etc.) and what they need to do. (If the Bulls get bounced in the first round, I assure you'll they'll be talking to the Grizz over the summer.) They do happen (Iverson) but they're generally the exception and have some extenuating circumstances (like a player publicly demanding a trade).

If the Grizz trade Gasol, they'll be looking for some combination of the following: Immediate (or near immediate) cap relief, lottery picks, good young players thay can use use in their core as they rebuild post-Gasol. Unless they plan on including Arenas or Butler (and they don't) the Wiz can't meet even one of those criteria.

Just because a trade works on some online trade tracker doesn't mean it'll work in real life. The Wiz simply don't have the assets to get a player like Gasol.

I'd love to have Gasol in a Wiz uniform. But it's not going to happen.

Posted by: kalorama | April 20, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

You know Lisa I am stunned that no one reacted to your post by accusing Gilbert of giving the Cavs a scouting report.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 21, 2007 12:55 AM | Report abuse


You're pretty insistent aren't you? Don't worry, I won't bother viewing the link you attached. It's not worth it. Thanks for thinking about me though.

Posted by: DC Man88

You know you looked at the link, and so did everyone else. Now we know why your wife looks like. Yikes!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2007 1:06 AM | Report abuse

"Is Blatche our Center of the future?

Posted by: Darnell | April 20, 2007 11:18 PM"

How in g#d's name is Blatche ever going to bulk up enough to be a center?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2007 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Almost as funny as saying Gilby is going to be a point guard.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2007 1:12 AM | Report abuse

"You know you looked at the link, and so did everyone else. Now we know why your wife looks like. Yikes!

Posted by: | April 21, 2007 01:06 AM "

Why are you calling your momma my wife?

PS. Still haven't looked at the link yet. Thanks for thinking about me though. I know you can't stop paying attention to me. Too bad for you if I offended you in the past. You can be anonymous, but you know who you are. :D

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2007 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Kalorama, not saying that it really will happen, just putting the idea out there that it could. Jamison/Gasol is the more likely deal if we'd be willing to send two first rounders. I'm not sure that we'd want to do that deal though.
The Grizzlies are just a team that is highly likely to move a near Allstar qaulity player that can play center. Since the Bulls didn't move P.J. Brown on his current contract I don't think that he can be resigned and then sent in a sign and trade this offseason so Paxson burned that trade chip that he acquired. And they seem to have no inclination to mess with their core. They seem to think at the 9 they might be able to get a center(Hibbert?) or possibly move up for a PF(Horford?) and have two young bigs to develop together.
They might be covering their butt after the fact, but they insist that they never offered any of their young core players in any Gasol deal. You're right deals involving Allstars are difficult during the season.
But Gasol is not an Allstar, he's not a guy like O'Neil or Garnett that is going to kick up ticket sales, and he has a big contract. A guy making 13m that isn't going to sell alot of tickets isn't going to create interest with many teams. Gee I think I just convinced myself to lower our offer, Abe's never going to want to pay this guy!
But to me he has the skills to play 5 in the Princeton so that Eddie Jordan can run that offense the way it's supposed to be ran. Ray and I had this discussion back in Jan. and I'm of the mind that finding a 5 that can come out high and be the hub man and pass or shoot is the hardest thing to come up with. Especially if you'd like him to play D and rebound too.
If you look at how we run the Princeton we've modified it so the center doesn't handle the ball so much. Watch it when EJ has Songalia at center, suddenly the ball is moving and our cutters are getting open. A good passing 5 that can bury the wide open 15 footer makes this offense work. If he can drop into the post and have a back to the basket game to make teams play it honest it becomes smooth as silk. The best example is the Kings of about 3 to 4 years ago.
He's not the only guy out there, but there's not alot of guys that can play the 5 in the Princeton in this league so we should have more interest than other teams. And their owner is determined to move that contract. They could gain some instant cap releif because Daniels could replace Chucky Atkins who is at the end of his deal. And Haywood and Jarvis Hayes could be moderately priced starters while the 4 1st rounders develop or decent rotation guys at a reasonable cost which is what they are here.
But EG probably has something else entirely in mind. My point from the beginning of this was, we're not in as bad of a situation as the ESPN guys were making us out to be and there are moves that we can make. But Ray brought Gasol up a month or so ago and watching the guy I've become intrigued with the idea of him here in the 5.
Throw in Navarro and I'm almost ready to take Spanish lessons.

Posted by: GM | April 21, 2007 4:33 AM | Report abuse

Given Ivan's description of Navarro and his skill set, I wonder why we would need him. If he's Gilby is going to take the majority of the shots, the this spanish "Juan Dixon" is going to demand the ball too. We need someone with basketball smarts, dirty work doer, great passer, and long bomber. Les BouleS don't need another ballhog.

Look at Jasekevicius. He was also the Euro player of the year, but when he came to the US, made little impact. I might rather concentrate monies on Nocioni than Navarro or Deshawn.

"But Gasol is not an Allstar, he's not a guy like O'Neil or Garnett that is going to kick up ticket sales, and he has a big contract. A guy making 13m that isn't going to sell alot of tickets isn't going to create interest with many teams. Gee I think I just convinced myself to lower our offer, Abe's never going to want to pay this guy!"

That's Gilby's job, as the team's "franchise" player to bring in the fans. When he was lighting it up, selling out the phone booth was no problem. Only when he was stinking it up after All Star Weekend did interest wane. DC is a town of very fickle fans, so getting Gasol is good, but we need more athleticism. Someone who finishes with a dunk, not a goofy layup.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2007 9:25 AM | Report abuse

But they both count for two points don't they? I was just saying that at Gasol's salary many teams will shie away unless they preceive that the guy will sell tickets. Selling tickets isn't the problem here and I agree that really more of Gil's role as the face of the franchise, but here the marketing has really been done around the big three.
I'd trust Caldaron, the Raptors point gaurd that played with Navarro on the Spanish World Championship team, or Gasol's opinions on Navarro. They rave about his passing, ability to go to the hoop and finish, and basketball smarts. And the guy shoots a heck of a percentage from the International 3 point line. From the times I've seen him he's much more physical than Dixion and can man up more on D and not just gamble for steals.
Most of all he definitly not a ball hog and can play point and distribute or is very active off the ball like Hamilton from Detroit. For several years Euro guys have been saying he's the best player over there. He's lead Spain to the World Championship and his pro team is one of the top in the highest Euro League.
Now all of that doesn't assure he'll make it here, but I like his chances.

Posted by: GM | April 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Don't know if you know, but a dunk is a higher percentage shot than a goofy layup.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"James said Arenas talked trash to him on the phone, but he didn't have the heart to respond. "No. Absolutely not. I don't talk trash -- only when somebody talks trash a little bit to me. But he's not playing," James said with a laugh. "I can't talk trash to him. It doesn't make sense.""

Gilby Apologist Response: "It's cute. It's just Gilby being Gilby. He's quirky."

Somebody With A Sense of Reality: "WTF is this guy doing, trying to get the opposition fired up and make his 'teammates'' job that much harder? If you want to help, just shut your yap and encourage your own teammates. Don't add fuel to the fire."

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert the franchise came to verizon offices regularly not to see teammates. Not to see coach. Mgmt said he must deal with teammates. Did not appear hurt nor injured if so not that badly..It wouldn't surprise me if he showed up to play in Cleveland.

He could put on a show and shock cleveland.
thats why he called the King.

Posted by: pedro | April 21, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Pedro, don't know what the heck you are talking about....I've seen television shots of Gil walking around (and getting off the plane in Cleveland) and he can barely walk.

Posted by: Lisa | April 21, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

If James wasn't trash talking he'd have kept what was said between players between players. Instead he made a point to say that Arenas is a spectator not a player in this series. If that's not talkin trash, I don't know what is!
And by the way, how do you know what Gil said besides James' account? Ever think it could just be James being the King?
I grew up and played ball in an era when if you had anything to say you did with your game, a hard pick, or a well placed elbow. But if you were going to go play with the brothers you had better be prepared to listen to a little trash.
Two generations of players have come and gone since Ali burst on the sports scene talkin the talk, I'm not going to apologize for James or Arenas. But, why are we to assume that it was one more then the other?

Posted by: GM | April 22, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Now the fun starts. If we can keep dumping the ball into Poet and let him punish the Cavs' soft front line, we may be able to surprise some people. But no jump-shot contests, please.

And no, folks, AB is not going to be the difference-maker in this series. Please.

Posted by: Mitch | April 22, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

could it be any more obvious that john thompson has a rooting interest in this game??? i freakin love it

Posted by: k-man | April 22, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I had hoped that a few weeks of teams fighting all over themselves to play the Wizards in the first round would light a fire under these guys but apparently not. If we lose cause of talent deficiency that's one thing but don't lose cause the other team's so obviously hungrier. This team is completely neutered. Dead Team Walking

Posted by: TMZ | April 22, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

that miss by jarvis and 3-pt by larry at the buzzer had dagger written all over it. 6 point swing right there. we coulda had a 1 point game at half...instead, we're back where we started after 1st qtr.

Posted by: k-man | April 22, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

WTF!?! foul!?!

Posted by: hmmmmm | April 22, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

you sure as hell can't say this team doesn't have heart....
if only our bigs (thomas and brenda) could play....2 points TOTAL?!?!? that's the difference in the game, ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: k-man | April 22, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

way to go AD. can't wait for caron to come back in game 3.

Posted by: ct fan | April 22, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"But Gasol is not an Allstar, he's not a guy like O'Neil or Garnett that is going to kick up ticket sales, and he has a big contract."

Actually, Gasol was an All-Star last season. He's also a young 20/10 7-footer who has yet to even hit his peak. Guys like that cannot be had with overpaid role players and mid-late 1st round picks.

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Haywood 5 minutes - I guess the "personal" stuff with EJ has "rear it's ugly head" once again????

Blanche 2 minutes - I was hoping my "stash" because of upcoming contract was wrong, but now I do not think so.

Donnel Taylor - Mop up duty (AD played the whole game). Wow........

As much as I am trying to "deal" with EJ, I am having a real hard time with it right now........

Ivan and Mike - Could you please find out why EJ did the things above (Haywood)???

Posted by: mikie | April 22, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I didn't expect an effort that was just so devoid of fight and passion. I know they hung in early, but they look like they just didn't have it in the second half. And of course as the game wore on, a lot of the little things that hurt this team reared there ugly head. Not rebounding the other team's misses, not being able to keep a hold of the ball, turnovers etc. I just want some fight that's all!

Posted by: George Templeton | April 22, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

George, I don't agree without about the Wiz lack of passion. They did play hard and with heart but just wore down in has been the case since Gil and Caron went down.

I just wish we had SOMEONE besides Jamison who would step up and score. Heck, if we don't have that person on the team, go get someone off the street. The fact that all the media, etc. has disrespected the Wiz without the Big Two, someone needs to step up and show them. In fact, the media is predicting an easy trip to the finals for the Cavs because they think they will sweep the Wiz and then win easily over the Nets/Raptors (they are thinking Nets) as well.

Posted by: Lisa | April 22, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Jarvis just said that Larry Hughes knows all the Wiz plays and was calling them out to the Cavs players the entire game.

Posted by: Lisa | April 22, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Tell the truth everyone. When LeBron went down with that sprained ankle you thought that there was a chance.

Posted by: larry roberts | April 22, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Kalorama, What did the Milwaukee Bucks get for Jabber? The 76er's get for Chamberlain? Or the Lakers for Shack? Or the Bulls for Chandler and Curry? Or years ago, what did we give up for Elvin Hayes?
Four of the greatest big men of all time were traded for??? I've been watching this game for a long time and boy there have been strange trades. Two young big men whose game's hadn't peaked yet given up for not alot.
Gasol has asked out, the owner has come out and said even if he hadn't of asked for a trade they would be looking move his contract this off season. Jerry West has announced he's leaving July 31st, the team is for sale, and has no coach. He's going somewhere, and I really wonder how much the Bull's will offer this off season. I don't see alot of suitors for him right now. They may develop, but maybe they won't.
When a team's ownership decides to trade a guy for contract or off the court reasons,and there's not a strong GM in place with a long range plan to build a team some really strange trades can take place. Webber for a broken down worn out Mitch Richmond???
Never say Never, target the players to run your system and figure out how to get them.

Posted by: GM | April 22, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I know EJ is paid to coach and I'm not. But he can't follow the same old tired plan of fatiguing his first unit. Does he want Jamison and Daniels to be useless in the next game? Oh ok, so it's the playoffs, and there are few more days between games, but still... Couldn't he have thrown Booth in against Ilgauskas? Where was Blatche, where was Haywood? In my view Etan was almost a no show with what 5 rebounds?
So small ball was supposed to be faster, then how come we only got ONE fastbreak?

Posted by: rickgonz | April 22, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Ok I know we weren't "supposed" to win this game. But I have completly had it with EJ and am tired of giving him the benifit of the doubt with regard to his subsitutions and who he plays. 5 Minutes for Haywood when he is a noted Ilguasakas killer??? Seriously this is absurd... i won't even get into blatche not playing. I read on ESPN that it was Ilguasakas who killed us in the 4th quarter and lo and behold i go see the box score and haywood was practically never in the game.
While we still might not win these games we have a lousy coach who isn't even giving his team a fair shot or even allowing them to have a chance down the strecth.

EJ has got to go and I am calling on all wizards fans to start a movement as such.

Hire Aldeman

Posted by: Dante | April 22, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh why, oh why, am I not surprised by the apology. Too predictable.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 22, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Haywood question was asked on Comcast postgame show. Glen Consur (spelling??) skipped around it and gave the "political" answer. Phil Chener, Buckhaniz, Jerry Coleman on the WTEM are all on the Wizards payroll, so they never give a real answer.

Dave Branch then pressed for a better answer from Ed Tabscott and he said Haywood was in the doghouse with EJ. With that said, he has a very short leash.

When Haywood took the fall away jumper that was all air, that had EJ yank him for the rest of the game. I believe that.

Give me a break, are telling me one shot that does not fall and you are yanked out for the "whole game"?????!!!. You are telling me Blanche takes a jumper in the flow of the game and misses and then he does not get back in??????

You run AD almost 48 minutes without giving him a "blow" from Donnel Taylor or Mason???? I know AD was great at running the game, but DTaylor can not even get a little run???? Please someone tell me what EJ's deal is. He blew it again with his "sub" calling....!!!!!!

Posted by: mikie | April 22, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz played gallantly for about 2.5 quarters...but to expect this team of lazy defenders to find it in April is just plain stupid...the players dont play D very well..they are lazy and they love to chuck up balls to compile stats - and that with Arenas and Butler playing..Eddie Jordan is the only reason you have chance he has done well with this team..

Posted by: DC in C-Town | April 22, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Mikie, how is it possible for one post to be wrong on so many counts?

DT can't play, dawg. He can't run the offense for crap, and AD could play extended minutes because he has until Wednesday night to recover.

AB has played like total dreck for the last 3 or 4 games. His limited minutes had nothing to do with missing that one jumper.

Mason was in the game, made a couple of shots and had a couple of turnovers. To put him opposite Larry in a "battle" of shooting guards is the mismatch of the year.

You really think that guys like that are the key to beating a Cleveland team with 50 wins in the RS? Wake up and smell the java, man.

Sure, EJ is at fault for everything. He has a bunch of budding all-stars on the bench that he just refuses to play. Please, give me a break, dude.

The keys were: AJ scored 28 pts., but needed 27 shots to do it. (10 for 27, including several missed layups). D Steve had another shaky game. Poet came up totally empty. AD played a nice game but probably has to take it to the rack more in the coming games.

Posted by: Mitch | April 22, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse


The Bulls got a top 10 pick for Curry and 14 million dollars in cap relief for Chandler. The Lakers got a young all-star caliber, multiposition big man for Shaq.

Did they get equal value? Probably not. but they did get real value. A couple of backups and some middling picks is not real value for a top 10 C who's yet to even hit his prime.

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse


Certainly it wasn't news to you that Haywood is in Jordan's doghouse?

Coaches almost always shorten their rotation in the postseason. They figure they can get away with playing guys more minutes because of the longer layoff between games. And they aren't going to play guys they don't have coinfidence in, and Jordan has none in Haywood. He also knows the Wiz's chances are slim. He figures that giving long run to scrubs like Taylor isn't likely to lengthen them.

Anyone see Full Court Press last night? When asked what's wrong with Haywood, David Dupree (who I think we can all agree knows more about the NBA than most) said: "He's dumb as a bag of hammers, he can't guard anybody, he gets into fights with his own teammates, he can't shoot, he gets one rebound or one dunk he acts like he should get an award." That's it in a nutshell.

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Lisa I would agree but they were pretty much out of it starting mid-way through the third quarter. There wasn't anytime after that, that you would have thought the Wizards had any hope.
I disagree with you a little bit mitch. Yes Daniels can play the 48 minutes, but then he will not have anything left at the end and the Wizards will lose like they did today. Like it or not if the Wizards want to win 40 minutes is the absolute most Daniel can play. Taylor did a decent job defensively on LePutz in the last game in D.C., why not use him a little bit (although James didn't have a good game anyway).
As for Blatche, he needed to be in there to try and hold down Gooden. Jamison on him was a bad idea.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 22, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice that Larry Hughes had a heckuva game? Many people have said on this blog that Larry was nobody until he started playing with Gilby, but if you look at it, Gilby hasn't advanced a team past the 1st round until Larry was on the team.

Also, any more reason needed not to resign DS? 3-12, 9 pts, no steals, 1 assist.

Also, in case you guys missed the Ivan/Michael Wizards chat last week, someone asked Ivan about Gilby and leadership and this was Ivan's response:

"As to the leadership issue, he flat out said he isn't one and doesn't want to be one."

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 22, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Mitch - you get my vote. Mason on Hughes? DUMB GM, didn't know you played - but I agree whole heartedly about the trash talking.

For a coach thats been to playoffs many many times - Jordan sure plays like he's lost. Who knows - maybe first round is best he can do.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

"DT can't play, dawg. He can't run the offense for crap, and AD could play extended minutes because he has until Wednesday night to recover.

AB has played like total dreck for the last 3 or 4 games. His limited minutes had nothing to do with missing that one jumper". Mitch

Yo Mitch. First of all, I was not talking about DT playing "major" minutes. My whole point in me asking about minutes for him was the simple point of giving AD a "blow" in the 2nd quarter and maybe two to three minutes at the start of the 4th, so that AD would not run out of gas (flat "j's" missed free throws, weak man to man defense, and lazy entry passes and etc....).

I also liked DT matching up on L Hughes who was smoking hot, to play that "chest to chest" man defense. DS or Mason could have "ran the show" while DT was in there, so I was not implying that DT "run the show".

Dude, I have been playing ball and around it for almost 20 years so I already know DT is not a pure point guard, so I don't have to be reminded of that.

As for AB, yes some of his last games he has been a little "off". But all I am saying is the young dude is getting yanked as soon as he makes one mistake. He is not allowed to "play through" his one or two mistakes.

As a player, when you are out there and make one mistake and the coach yanks you out two or three games in a row, you start to play "scared". That's just a fact.

For a young boy like that, you have to build his confidence up. So, the reason why I mentioned the jumper is because that was his one mistake again, and guess what he got yanked. All I saying is, if Eddie is going to yank him like that (happened twice in the game), he should not play him at all, thats all I am saying.

All I did in my post is mention three players who have the ability to cause "defensive problems" for other teams with their length (Haywood and AB) and quickness (DT).

We can apply "full court" pressure with them and extend the game past the half court line. Just a change in tempo to cover for lack of talent.

I was never trying to imply these dudes were "world beaters" or the answer to Eddie's problems. Yea, I have played basketball long enough to know rotations get shorten in the playoffs, you aren't telling me something I already don't know.

However, for AD to play almost 3 straight quarters and most of the 4th quarter without a "blow" at his age means we are asking for trouble, long layoff time to next games because of the playoffs or not. That is still not an excuse to run him into the ground.

What happens if AD gets hurt? Because EJ failed to let DT or Mason get any run at the point, they will be "fresh meat" out there if they were forced to start a game. Tell me, how smart is that????

How AB can not be in there to check LaBron or Gooden for at least 10 to 15 minutes makes no sense. Again, that is major length being wasted.

To have Ruffin (6 7" maybe???) getting minutes over Haywood against SideShow Bob, Gooden and 7 foot and something "Zke" is to much to try to understand.

How does Booth not get any run since Haywood is such "a problem" with some of you posters and "off brand" David Dupree????

Can you explain that to me please? Don't give me that weak answer about EJ having to shorten his rotation either. Give me some with some substance???

Posted by: mikie | April 22, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I love Larry Hughes (well, I used to) but honestly he has not done well since joining the Cavs...and not having Gil as a teammate. Gil and Larry complemented each other greatly. I believe the Cavs made some changes recently and Larry has been playing better since then but until that time he was pretty much considered a disappointment.

As to Larry playing great against us today....of course he did...and will continue to do so. He KNOWS the coach and the PLAYS....nuff said. Same thing going on with Golden State and the Mavs right now. Nellie used to coach the Mavs and knows them inside and out...and GS won every game against the almighty Mavs this season.

Posted by: Lisa | April 22, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

As we all know, there are days when Larry will put up bricks with the best of them. Unfortunately, today wasn't one of those days.

Another thing that hurt was Dee Song getting in early foul trouble. He couldn't really play his game.

I agree with Tapscott's comments after the game that the Wiz have to make these games "ugly" by getting a lot more physical. The Cavs got too many easy baskets. While Poet and Dee Song committed a lot of fouls, they were touch fouls and not the kind to leave an impression. Make those fouls count lads!

Posted by: Mitch | April 22, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Mitch, the Wizards have been giving up too many easy baskets for the better part of the past decade and a half. If they haven't corrected the problem by now, it's unlikely it'll change by the time the next game rolls around. The bigger concern now is finding someone else besides Jamison to show up offensively, and finding ways to get easy baskets themselves.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Mikie, DT & RM got exp at the point those weeks after Ga went down. DT was preety good..Mason awful. that said - DT would be better to backup Daniels. Mason just seems to want to jack up 3's. In the playoffs-why does ej not play his bench? The Cavs are the only team in these finals we match up with could he not better prepare?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it ironic that in the two season since we lost Larry Hughes to the Cavs, the Cavs have been our 1st round playoff opponent?

It bugs me everytime I see Blatche on the bench, he's sitting next to Haywood. Usually with Haywood running his mouth about something, and Blatche with his headband pushed to the top of his head with a disinterested look on his face looking at his fingernails bored.

Posted by: Darnell | April 23, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

I am just wondering,I am a novice fan and still learning the game, but, is it that hard to add new plays? It seems that since Hughes left the Wiz, we have still used the same plays and the Cavaliers are able to capitalize on that and use it against the Wiz. Since, the Wiz is very short handed right now, would not a couple of surprise plays to throw Hughes be in order? Also, I watched that game and unless someone else besides Jamison and Hayes don't start connecting with the basket, they might as well get out the fishing rods because it is over. I still had hope that the Wiz could make a little noise, but now, I am not too sure. I know Stevenson is not used to being a go to scorer, but it sure couldn't hurt if he could connect a few of those. I wonder if he is trying so hard that it is affecting his focus when shooting. With all of the disrepect the Wiz have been receiving, I thought they would come out with a high level of intensity and fire and playing with reckless abandon like the Warriors did against Dallas. But after watching that game, I tell you, I really have no words to describe the Wiz situation at all. Being a loyal fan, I am still hoping and praying that somehow we could still that game on Wednesday.

Posted by: wizfan | April 23, 2007 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be funny if AB wants to play out his contract so that he can become an unrestricted free agent after next season?

As to Larry Hughes, this guy is a great player and a difference maker. Don't listen to those naysayers that say he hasn't done anything since he's been with the Cavs. These people were in a fog and forgot that he was injured for a time (you get injured when you hustle, not when you sit on the bench or don't play any D), his little brother died, and he's playing in a Mike Brown offense, which doesn't suit him nor Lebron.

Lucky for them, Mike Brown has changed his schemes because otherwise, he would have been canned. I'm happy for Larry and his success. Shows Les BouleS that they can't lowball someone and expect them to stick around. Stick around for what? Tradition of the franchise? Are Les BouleS the Lakers, the Bulls, the Celtics? Not. Players know that this cheap franchise isn't going to spend money on top coaches or players or accomodations. Why bother?

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 23, 2007 7:22 AM | Report abuse

Well, surprise, surprise...DC Dude knows more about Larry Hughes and the NBA than all the coaches and experts.....maybe EJ should call him in for a consult on our that he is.

Posted by: Lisa | April 23, 2007 7:34 AM | Report abuse

EJ should worry about coming up with a gameplan that ex players won't easily pick up. Then again, why bother talking about the playoffs? This "franchise" was on a downward tailspin since before All Star Weekend and nothing Gilby could have done to stop it. You better run out and buy yourself some playoff tickets, so that your beloved Gilby won't leave due to lack of fan support.

Curse o' Les BouleS.

PS. I don't know more than the coaches or experts, but I do know more than you. Not sayiing much though.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 23, 2007 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Larry Hughes sucks ass. If that was him instead of Lebron twisting that ankle, his career would be over. And speaking of that play, was that not the most blatant attempt at protecting superstars? How many times have players come down on others feet and twist an ankle and the ref calls a foul? Zero (no pun intended). And not only did he call a foul, he called it only after realizing that it was Lebron and he was in serious pain. I taped the game for my dad and replayed it several times. He clearly doesn't blow the whistle until after he looks down and notices that its Lebron! I know the NBA doesn't stop the game for injuries and if you go back to that moment, the Wiz was down by 4 and had possesion and a 5 on 4 advantage. But since he called a bogus foul on Etan, he stopped play, (Cleveland called a timeout which gave his Majesty an extra 5 minutes) put Lebron at the foul line, and gave the cavs 2 free points! Then they proceeded to go on an 11-2 run following Lebron's injury. Game over, man (well, they still was in it but some dumb ass coach who shall remain nameless decided to guard a 7'3 center with Michael Ruffin instead of BTH. But i'll gripe about that in my next post). Ivan or Mike, you guys have done an excellent job keeping us informed and getting our questions anwswered. So is it possible to get an explanation out of the League on that call? I mean if Etan purposely stuck his foot out there, why isn't it called a flagrant 1?

Posted by: C.Bell | April 23, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I'll give EJ the benefit of the doubt ONLY because this is a 7 game series and he has a chance to adjust. Remember, the Wiz have lost every game 1 in their 3 year stretch. But if he comes out with Ruffin on Big Z again, especially in DC, more and more people will be calling for his job. FYI Eddie, when the opposing center says that he was even surprised that BTH got no burn, that should tell ya sumthin, playa!

Posted by: C.Bell | April 23, 2007 8:12 AM | Report abuse

"I'll give EJ the benefit of the doubt ONLY because this is a 7 game series and he has a chance to adjust. "

Adjust? Meaning go small ball? Adjusting is not one of EJ's strengths. Otherwise, the latter part of Les BouleS season wouldn't have been a total flop.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 23, 2007 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Someone Get Me Broom Service

· Antonio Daniels, having an animated discussion with Etan Thomas about how to run basketball's most basic play.

Thomas: "I thought when Darius [Songaila] popped" . . .

Daniels: "What are you talking about?! He catches it at the top of the key. Then you pick-and-roll."

Thomas, sheepishly: "Oh."

· A miffed Eddie Jordan wonders why his defense didn't get credit for holding LeBron to 14 shots.

"Somebody call maintenance," the Wizards' locker room attendant says, "the urinal is overflowing. It's going everywhere."

Deja lose.

Posted by: owizeone | April 23, 2007 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Re that play when the ref called a foul on Thomas after LeBron landed on Thomas's foot:
I don't believe I have ever seen a ref call a foul after the shot went in the hoop and the other team took the ball out of bounds and inbounded it. Check the tape -- the ref blows the whistle after Hayes throws the inbound pass. That was the latest whistle ever.

Posted by: Joe | April 23, 2007 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Sadly - Nobody needs to know what the wizards ar doing becaus THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!

MATADOUR DEFENSE??????? Your Center STILL doesn't know what a P-I-C-K & R-O-L-L is !!!for crying out loud, LOL, LOL, LOL,!!!

Its doesnt matter if this DC dude likes Hughes or not...its just a sad performance
Hughes or James aside. How dumb is a coach who puts his pride and stubborness before a playoff win..

Yep thats the man you want to trust with your team. He needs to be in line behind Musselman and the rest of the drunken loser coaches.

Per Gilbert: Arenas summed up the mood of his team as well as anyone in one of his blog entries the other day. He said since he's been gone the locker room has become a quiet and dispassionate place with the feel of "a library."

Only they haven't read the books on basketball.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 23, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Joe, I've never seen a ref call a foul with zero time left on a clock either, after watching to see if the ball went in or not, until I saw the Golden State game agains Les BouleS.

"Per Gilbert: Arenas summed up the mood of his team as well as anyone in one of his blog entries the other day. He said since he's been gone the locker room has become a quiet and dispassionate place with the feel of "a library.""

B.S. The only passion I saw with Gilby was Gilby trying to get his dibs on All Star Weekend. Mailed it in the rest of the season.

"My calvicle was poppe back in!!!! Hibachi is back!!!"


Posted by: DC Man88 | April 23, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Wizfan, there really aren't that many plays in basketball, what a smart guy like Hughes can do is know your tendancies and how you run them. Those are pretty hard things to change at this point in the season.
But in basketball it isn't what you run as much as how you run it. Everybody knows exactly what Utah runs, but for a quarter of a century Sloan has had that team executing the same play with it's few variations and options and it still works. When I started to watch this game in the late 60's to early 70's Sloan played with the Chicago Bulls and Bob "Butterbean" Love, Chet "the Jet" Walker and those guys were running the same basic pick n roll stuff that the Jazz run today.
The big thing in the NBA has always been finding mismatches that favor your team and exploiting them. Don Nelson has always been the master at that and proved it again last night against the Mavericks.
EJ yesterday totally ignored matchups that favored us. In the past Haywood has always given Ilg. fits. We never matched him up against him. Blatch is quick enough to potentially cause Gooden problems, we'll never know. And Jarvis can post up their guys, and did it well when we called it. Just wasn't called enough.
EJ has got to spell AD some, he was gassed and spent in the 4th again. But plain and simple Hughes had a monster day, about 13 points above his season average which was about the margin of victory. Stevenson has got to rise to challenge and shut him down.

Posted by: GM | April 23, 2007 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Nah joe, it was a missed shot. Lebron and Etan both went up for the rebound but his Majesty came down on Thomas' foot. But we both agree that it was the most ridiclous call ever. That was nothing more than a slap in the face of the Wizards organization. It shows how much the League protects the superstars. Thats why I'm such a mark for Gilbert. Gil is that one guy who wasn't invited to the party cause he was weird, but then he just says "F*** it" and crashes it! Did they stop play when he went down? Hell no!

Posted by: C.Bell | April 23, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

DC, I was at the GS game. Last time I checked, one tenth of a second was on the clock when the foul was called. So that's legit. Stopping play just because someone is injured is not. I would've been okay if he just stopped play, but to stop play AND give Etan a foul was uncalled for. And WTF is your beef wit Gil? Gil was implying that since he's been hurt, the locker room hasn't been the same. Hell, the whole freakin team acknowledges that (even Ivan and Mike)! He didn't say nobody in there didn't have passion. He was the life of the locker room and since he's been out, no one has filled his role. Dawg, you're so quick to bash Gil for no reason other than he makes more money than you (and probably everybody else on this blog). You think that he's selfish? Look at the numbers cuz. Look at the team's winning percentage when he scores more than 30. Last time I checked, Gil has been top 10 in steals since he's been a Wizard. And outside of Kobe, there is NOBODY better in the last 2 minutes of a game than Gil. So you and the rest of the "We hate Gil cause he likes to shine" club can go to hell with that "the team is better without him S***! Cause last time I checked, they are what, 2-10 since he went down?

Posted by: C.Bell | April 23, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Is it possible that next year, AD can be a player/coach? Cause it seems he knows more than EVERY coach we have. I bet if he coached next year they'd know how to defend a pick and roll

Posted by: C.Bell | April 23, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Lisa, Last I checked, I've never seen you post anything here remotely close to stupid. So I hope you know that not everyone shares that sentiment.
Oh, surprise,surprise, someone has managed to stir up another Gilbert Arenas debate. The only thing that I have to say about Gilbert Arenas in relationship to yesterday's game is, Didn't he look nice in that suit! Very Dapper.
Other than that as someone loves to say,"WTF" are you bringing him up for anyway?

Posted by: GM | April 23, 2007 9:53 AM | Report abuse

C Bell, in case you have not been here the past few months, DC Dude HATES Gilbert and will do and say anything to stick a knife in him. He goes on and on and on AD NAUSEUM about the D*mn All Star Game and Gil's party. Obviously, he is insanely jealous. He gets most of his "info" by cutting and pasting stats and quotes from the newsmedia.....duh...we read the Post, etc. If a media person agrees with his views, he loves that person...if they do not he TELLS us not to pay them any attention. It's so laughable. He even said that Gil should have moved out of the way when Wallace landed on his knee. How insane is that?

What totally baffles me is how much time he spends writing on a blog for a team that he obviously does not like.

Posted by: Lisa | April 23, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Mitch - Were you joking when you said to keep passin the ball into the poet?

You must be jokin!! and what diference would it make if larry even knew ONE play?

Eddie Jordan couldn't figure out what plays to call himself..How would Larry know what the h-- he's callin IF JORDAN DOESN'T KNOW HIMESLF?

Definitly the sign of a GREAT COACH - every week he says something's "his fault"
No play - wrong play -DNP Haywood, sorry he did - 1 second in the 4th. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face? Blatche, Booth, Ruffin???? Mason on Hughes??? Thomas on Ilgaugus? We need a coach to coach the coach!!

"Jordan blamed himself for the sequence, saying he called the wrong play. Everyone agreed that Hughes's shot was a major boost for the Cavaliers"

Jordan defended his decision to defend Ilgauskas with smaller players rather than 7-foot center Brendan Haywood, whose five minutes of action came in the first half. Haywood gave Ilgauskas trouble during last season's first-round series.

"I just thought that the guys that were playing were playing hard and playing smart, so I'm playing those guys," Jordan said. "I don't care if they're 5-2."

"Ilgauskas, who averaged 9.8 points in last spring's six-game series, was surprised that he didn't see more of Haywood. "Yeah," Ilgauskas said. "They played really good defense against me last year in the playoffs. I really struggled. I really don't know why he didn't play much. I'm sure we'll see more in the upcoming games."

Per Ivan Carter - nuf said

Only game 1 but can the coach swallow his pride?

Posted by: Wiz Fan1 | April 23, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

"But if he comes out with Ruffin on Big Z again, especially in DC, more and more people will be calling for his job. FYI Eddie, when the opposing center says that he was even surprised that BTH got no burn, that should tell ya sumthin, playa"!
- C.Bell

"EJ yesterday totally ignored matchups that favored us. In the past Haywood has always given Ilg. fits. We never matched him up against him. Blatch is quick enough to potentially cause Gooden problems, we'll never know. And Jarvis can post up their guys, and did it well when we called it. Just wasn't called enough.
EJ has got to spell AD some, he was gassed and spent in the 4th again"
- GM

GM and CBell. This is all I was trying to say yesterday. By the way, did anyone hear that answer EJ gave when they asked him what happened on that shot with Jarvis at the end of the 2nd quarter when Jarvis shot it with 8 seconds left and then gave Hughes 6 seconds to get off a clean look at a 3 point shot.

EJ said that Jarvis quick shot was "HIS (EDDIE'S)" fault????!!!!! EJ said HE messed up the play call and there was confusion. So he took the blame. What??????!!!!!!

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT PLAY CALL????!! You have 16 seconds left!!!! Hold the ball until 2 seconds left and then shoot??? What other play call would there have been???????? EJ tried to say he wanted a quick shot. How in the world does that make sense with 16 seconds left?????!!!!

Jarvis just made a bone headed play. But guess what, did he get "yanked" the rest of the game??? Heck no. As usual he was given a pass by EJ??? AB and Haywood, no such pass.......

I could not believe EJ tried to cover for Jarvis mistake like that. If EJ is going to keep this beef up with Brendon and not separate business and personal, the Wiz are going to get "swept"!!!!

Eddie knows if he puts a lineup of AB, Haywood, Jamison, AD and or Stevenson or Mason that is his best offensive/defensive unit.

But because of all the "stuff" he has going on against AB and Haywood, he will not allow his ego to do so. As DCMan said earlier, the playoffs are a game of "adjustments" and we all know EJ is not good at that.

His adjustment plan is to go to smallball. And we all know how well that goes. For all the negative stuff I have to say of EJ, I still would like to have the dude here as coach next season, because I do believe that guy can coach.

But on the other hand, if he does not learn how to separate "business" and "personal" he is going to make himself look real bad in this series. He already had a pass with Gilbert and Caron being down, but to do the dumb stuff he did yesterday voids his pass.

As what was written yesterday, none of his assistants have been given extended contracts. That should tell you something right there. However, they might be telling him some of these same things about how he is playing Haywood, AB and DT but he is just not listening.

Posted by: mikie | April 23, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Wiz Fan1 I am glad you see that thing about the pride thing too. Looks like we were both thinking the same thing we we both posted at the same time.

Again, knowledge is power. Research and analyze things for yourself vs. what some media types are always trying to give you.

Posted by: mikie | April 23, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I just read Michael Wise's article. I am glad to see someone else in the media world can see there is more to this thing with Eddie and Haywood. For a minute there, I thought it might just be me???

Posted by: mikie | April 23, 2007 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Mikie, you're right. Previously, when management bought in the Defensive coach.(someone on this blog stated him name) Jordan didn't like it cuz he hired his "own people." Didn'nt want the mans help. Tapscott & Co. made mention of it during post game show & how EJ didn't allow the individual to work with this team. Tapscott tagged it "the matador defense" He thought Jordan might reconsider but not so. Geo Michael also mentioned it once. Jordan would not yield. Perhaps you're right - the asst coaches- who do speak periodically on 980 mention a few things but careful not to expose the coach too much.
It sounds like Jordan has taken on Abe's persona & attitude. Maybe we'll see Haywood leaving Verizon this summer in his convertible benz, in shades ala MJ.

I know - its only one game but I am like everyone else on here - nervous about Jordan's lineup, subs and rotations.
I think we all hold our breath - prayin & hopin for a win. It must be more difficult for exp'd ball players - knowing the game, seeing the probs & can do nothing to help.

Posted by: Robin | April 23, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Just in..

Coaches Rick Carlisle and Sam Mitchell contracts expire end of season.
Byrd eceptionally unhappy not being a winner. Hoping O'Neal doesn't ask for trade but if he does - will consider.

Seems Raptors GM forced Sam Mitchell(coach) to accept & play rookie Bargniani. sounds sort of familiar? reportedly some friction there.

So now..he'd like to bring in an asst coach from Suns to replace Mitchell. It all depends on how well they do in playoffs. The GM is "hoping" (how weird is that?)Raps lose that will strengthen his position to replace Mitchell.

That says a lot..lets us know there's lots going on btwn owner, GM & coach.

Just another day in the NBA

Posted by: Robin | April 23, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

This manic hysteria is mildly amusing. Kind of sad, but amusing nonetheless.

The Wizards are going into a gunfight with a half empty clip. There's no magic bullet that's going to win the series. And if there was, Haywood wouldn't be it. Coaches play the players they trust and have confidence in. Jordan has none in Haywwod and his behavior and much of his play down the stretch is to blame for that. The idea that inserting him into the lineup is somehow the key to vistory is laughable, at best.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"Hughes was mostly a nonfactor during the Cavaliers' six-game series victory over Washington last season. He averaged just 12.3 points, shot 31.3 percent and his only contributions were scoring 24 points in Cleveland's overtime win in Game 5 and assisting Damon Jones on the game-winning jumper that clinched the series. "It's a new day," Hughes said. "A lot of things went on last year. It's a new day."

Hughes had not recovered from a broken hand that limited him to just 36 games last season and it was later revealed that he was playing through a difficult time emotionally. His younger brother, Justin, was battling a serious heart ailment and later died during the Cavaliers' second-round series against Detroit.

"We know how special this game is to Larry," James said. "Last year, he came back in the playoffs but he wasn't the Larry Hughes that we know, and I know because of the tragedy with his family and his finger not being 100 percent. So it's a blessing that we got to play Washington again. He's 100 percent healthy and his mind is clear and just focused on basketball.""


Posted by: DC Man88 | April 23, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"DC, I was at the GS game. Last time I checked, one tenth of a second was on the clock when the foul was called. So that's legit. "

Nah, I saw the play too. Tony Brothers clearly messed up the call and gave a charity trip to the foul line to Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 23, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse


Your gimpy behind should have stayed home!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 23, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The defensive assistant is Bill Barry and I mentioned him. And you are correct Kalorama there is no magic bullet to win the series, but there are quite a few things that Jordan could do different that would help.
You have to play Haywood against Z as much as possible, BTH always plays him well. Blatche needs to be on the floor for at least 20 minutes guarding either Drew Gooden or LeBron. You can't play a defense that leaves Donyell Marshall wide open! Donell Taylor should be on the floor at least 10 minutes (and should guard LeBron), same with Mason, so that Daniels has something left at the end. And Ruffin should barely be on the floor at all. Hopefully Jarvis will be more like he was yesterday rather than Arvis that he has been most of the time.
All these things together will give the Wizards a chance.

Posted by: George Templeton | April 23, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

That's a good idea in theory George. The practical problem with it comes from what we saw at the end of the regular season. Taylor is not a PG and is prone to making bad decisions with the ball and forcing shots. Haywood too often sleepwalks his way through games and doesn't have impact. People want Jordan to put aside his presumed personal beef with haywood, but the real problem is whether Haywood can put it aside and focus on playing hard in whatever minutes he gets. The evidence is iffy at best.

Their margin of error is too small for Jordan to give extended time to players he doesn't trust to produce.

That being said, I really think Booth, who has shown the ability to play hard and be productive in short stintseven after long periods of inactivity, should get more run against Ilgauskas.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Uh, sorry, Kalorama, on your statement about Jordan having no confidence in Haywood? Not necessarily, according to Ivan's most recent piece - Per Eddie Jordan: "Brendan has been big off the bench. Now, what he does with that is up to him."

He may NOT be the key to victory but the record does bare that he gave Ilgaukus(?) a hard time - each time they played.Ilgaukus said as much.

Now, if you are more knowledgeable than the player himself. ok. kudos to you.

I think the point GM & others are making - they can't do any worse at least putting a bigger body against him. Can't predict if Spiderman & superman came in would help either.

Quite frankly - Feel Wiz did pretty descent job & aren't cryin & whining like Shaq. Just read articles with him complainin about everything but the weather the day he played his entre 27 minutes then fouled out. Thank God Riley was a straight-up guy & called it like it was. They got beat fair & square.

Posted by: rob | April 23, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

WizFan1 wrote: "Mitch - Were you joking when you said to keep passin the ball into the poet?"

No, actually, I meant it. And the facts proved me right, too. They didn't pass the ball into Poet, and they got killed.

I rest my case.

Posted by: Mitch | April 23, 2007 1:11 PM | Report abuse


If you want to take: "Now, what he does with that is up to him." as some kind of unqualified endorsement, so be it. The view of life through rose colored glasses must be nice. But anyone without an agenda can see it for what it is. If Jordan really had confidence in him, why isn't he playing him? Yeah, I know. A logical question. Curse me. But I guess it's easier to willfully misinterpret a single line from one quote than actually examine the evidence at hand.

And the record also shows that the last time Haywood played significant minutes against the Cavs was before his demotion which was brought on by a long stretch of listless, impact-free play. Again, if Jordan's confidence in him hadn't waned, why bench him (and all but banish him from the rotation)?

And last I checked, Booth had a bigger body and he had the distinction of not pouting or half-assing it through games, thus my suggestion of giving him more run.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

"I think the point GM & others are making - they can't do any worse at least putting a bigger body against him. Can't predict if Spiderman & superman came in would help either". Rob

Kalorama - This is all everyone is trying to say. Nobody said Haywood is going to turn the whole series around. It is just fustrating knowing we are still losing the games and not using all of our bullets! It is clear you do not like Haywood, just like it is clear DC Mann does not like Gilbert. But for once, could you take the personal stuff out of it and look at the situation in basketball terms?

Man, you sound just like Eddie. You keep using all this junk Dupree and that "weak" post game host with the WTEM (Jerry Coleman) keep using. You all keep attacking the dude's character.

None of you are there everyday to know both sides of the story. So don't be too quick to judge people off of hearsay.

But if you all want to use "character" as your base of attack on Haywood, why is it everytime I see the Wizard's doing something for charity, Haywood is always there? Along with AB, Taylor and Mason. Even at recent events when he was getting no minutes? Is that a dude who is not a team player, since you want to keep using "character" for your aurguments?

As for as Dupre talking about Haywood being dumb, who is he to talk? I have listened to Haywood do color on the Mistics game, and the dude knows his basketball. Dupree is nobody who impresses me anyway, and that was not cool to call anybody "dumb" in public.

Dang dude, you sound just like you work for the organization or something? Are you on their payroll, or are you looking at the same team everyone else is?

Posted by: mikie | April 23, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse


Relax, young fella. It's just a game.

I'm fairly certain I haven't attacked Haywood's character. I have criticized both his game and behavior, both deservedly so based on the documented evidence. Sorry if that upsets you. Well, actually, I'm not. If it upsets you (and clearly it does) that's unfortunate for you. Oh well.

I have no personal feelings for Haywood, good or bad. But I do think the potential for positive he (occassionally) brings to the court and the team is outweighed by the negatives (more in evidence recently). Just that simple and obvious. Accept or reject that viewpoint as you will, but please spare me (and us all) your attempts to personalize it into some kind of vendetta against your boy, because that's so clearly not what it is.

His charity work is all fine and dandy. Props to him for caring. But that has jack all to do with how he acts/behaves/plays inside the arena, which is all I've ever spoken on. Apples and oranges. Hell, apples and bananas, even.

And, again, I agree they could use a big body against Ilgauskas which is why, more than once now, I've wondered why Booth doesn't get more run. But don't let the facts interfere with your ranting.

As for Dupree, like him or not at your discretion. I couldn't possibly care less. But most people who follow the NBA readily acknowledge him as a very knowledgable souirce about the game and the league.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse


More to the point, most of what I've written in this thread hasn't even been about my feelings regarding Haywood. It was mostly in response to all of the hand-wringing and name-calling directed towards Jordan, wondering why he didn't play Haywood more. I was simply pointing out (what should have been) the obvious answer: That as a result of Haywood's recent play and behavior, Jordan has little trust/confidence in him and thus is reluctant to play him. (And if you paid any attention to the coverage of the team over the last couple of years, you'd know he didn't have that much to begin with.) Again, this is bourne out in the fact that Haywood's role and PT have rapidly shrunk after that incident on the bench was reported and Jordan was quoted as being unhappy with the "energy" he was getting at the C position when Haywood was starting.

You may not like the answer, but that doesn't make it any less accurate.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

No, I don't think any of us knows brendan. A family memeber has known him for about 6 yrs. But that is irrelevant because I personally don't.

Now, upon listening Brendan opin after several games; he has does appear intelligent regarding their problems basketball wise. Interesting you say this and hopefully won't get angry from his comments.

After one game BH noted: "we're always playing too much one on one-with one man making all the shots. When he isn't making any its like team is stuck. Thats not team ball but I don't have any say about that.

His opinion about Suns: They play team ball.They show you what can be done when you share the ball - play team ball. None of them is trying to be the star. They show you, they don't need one star player out their jackin up and makin all the shots.

He was asked if he thought his teammates saw that as well?

He said; They should cuz its true.

On another occasion: He felt the coaching staff put all their eggs in one basket.
Depending on one player all the time he felt was rediculous - to carry entire team when its other players quite capable of stepping up. He didn't understand why things were done the way they were.

These are merely from some memory. We cannot speak of his character and because he does charity appearances doesn't mean he has character nor integrity.

All of the bench guys are vying for slots on this team just to stay in the NBA. They will do whatever necessary to please and give an appearance of oneness to mgmt and owners. That said- none of this means one thing regarding the basic discussions on this blog because these are all personal ramblings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda cuz the bottom line is: Eddie Jordan is the coach and Gundfeld GM.

Dupree, a NBA writer and an NBA Analyst is paid to make his judments. Take that up with him. His on-chat with USA Today is tuesdays. Submit your comments - maybe he'll respond.

Posted by: Rob | April 23, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Dupree's chat is usually on Wednesdays, I believe. Or at least it has been all the times I've submitted questions.

As for Haywood, if he says he's willing to step up, he needs to walk the walk. He also needs to read the writing on the wall. This team's offense (when healthy) is built around Arenas, Butler, and Jamison. In his role as center, stepping up means being physical, rebounding, blocking shots, and going back strong with putbacks. Worrying about who gets how many shots shouldn't even be on his radar screen, because he's not a shot maker. And that's not just a consequence of him being on the Wizards, that's a consequence of his not being a consistent, reliable, efficient offensive set player.

Posted by: kalorama | April 23, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Kalorama - In order to walk the walk, he has to be allowed to go into the game first. Trust me he is so desparate for minutes now he would be glad to just get in and play defense.

He is not looking for shots anymore, that was Gilbert's first year, before he found out Gilbert was the real deal.

As I am going to say for the last time is the man deserves a "bone" that's it. You don't hear me screaming about him starting, just for him to get some run. He is 7 feet and from the North Carolina Tarheels. I am pretty sure he can do the same job if not more than Ruffin.

As for Booth, I have always been a fan of his since Unseld drafted him in the second round years ago. But he is thirty years old now and he should be only used in spot duty. I always liked his game.

However, I can not get over the fact that whenever Haywood plays, you never really know what you are going to get. Can that be a negative thing, for sure. But it could be a positive thing also if he is playing like he did in that Miami game a couple of weeks ago.

We have three games left maybe, so we all know he will be gone at the end of the season, so why not let the dude play some in backup minutes and let him "showcase" himself to other teams.

I already realize you have your opinion on Haywood, just like I have mine; but what gets me to get to posting about it is when Eddie does stuff like he did in the last game with him. If Eddie would have let the man play some int he 4th quarter when Ike was getting off, you would not have heard anything from me.

Why not let the man get 15 to 20 minutes and handle this in the offseason, vs. doing things like not playing him against someone he generally plays well against just to make a point.

I am a Wiz's fan first and foremost, not a Haywood "super fan". I look at what we need on the court to succeed, so when I see an average "5" just sitting on the pine not even getting 15 minutes just blows my mine.

Posted by: mikie | April 23, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

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