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Stevenson deal done, Wiz SL team drops to 0-3

First, the news of the night: the Wizards and free agent shooting guard DeShawn Stevenson have agreed to a four-year, $15 million contract. Stevenson will hold a player option for the fourth year. The offer has been in place for several days and Stevenson has been mulling his options. By late Friday night, free agent guards like Morris Peterson (New Orleans Hornets) and Steve Blake (Portland) had agreed to deals and the market was pretty much set.

Stevenson had been hoping for more money - perhaps another $3 million - but in the end, the Wiz offer was the best that was going to be out there. From a pure basketball perspective, it's a deal that works out for both sides. Stevenson got a nice bump after playing for less than $1 million last season and he'll have a player option in four years that will allow him the chance to go out get another contract or make another $3.7 million or so with the WIz.

For the Wiz, signing Stevenson means keeping last season's core together - a core that had the best record in the East shortly before the All Star break before injuries hit - with the knowledge that Andray Blatche, Oleksiy Pecherov, a healthy Darius Songaila and rookies Nick Young and Dominic McGuire will add to a potentially strong bench.

The contract terms will also help the salary-cap tight Wiz retain restricted free agent Andray Blatche and still be able to use the by-annual exception for a guy like Calvin Booth.

The summer leaguers dropped to 0-3 with a 74-69 loss to Houston tonight. The good news was that Pecherov busted out with a very strong game. He got off to a nice start, was active on the boards all night and finished with 26 points on 11 of 21 shooting with 14 rebounds. Young added 14 points on five of 14 shooting but the summer Wiz continued their trend of playing well in the first half only to lose steam in the fourth quarter. They led by 17 points in the first half but were outscored 32-14 in the third and couldn't finish at the end.

Wes Unseld Jr. went with a different lineup tonight: Aaron Miles and Brian Chase started in the backcourt, Dominic McGuire and Pecherov opened at forward and Kyle Visser again started at center. For the second straight game, Miles played a solid all-around floor game. He finished with six points and eight assists with no turnovers in just under 32 minutes.

- I had a chance to chat with Coach Eddie Jordan briefly before the game and he said he plans on speaking with Lionel Hollins about the team's open assistant coach position soon. Hollins last coached on the staff with Memphis.

-Nothing really new to report on the Juan Carlos Navarro front but it's almost a certainty that the Wiz won't sign him now that Stevenson is in the fold. The latest is out of Memphis where Navarro's fellow Spainard, Pau Gasol, said that he wants Navarro in a Grizz uniform next season. I did hear one rumor that I haven't been able to confirm. It goes like this: Memphis was (or is) willing to make a deal that would bring Navarro's rights to Elvis-town along with Brendan Haywood. According to the rumor, however, Ernie wanted to package Etan Thomas and his contract in the deal instead of Brendan. It wasn't clear which player the Wiz would take back but I would assume it was Stromile Swift, who has one year remaining on his deal. Again, file that one in the rumor department.

- Tonight, a little birdie told me that Dallas is one team that might jump out with an offer for Blatche. That makes some sense because I read a report out of Dallas a few weeks back stating that Blatche would be a possible target for the Mavs if other options fell through. Stay tuned.

By Ivan Carter  |  July 13, 2007; 10:25 PM ET
 
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Just goes to show that the Summer League doesn't guarantee a thing when it comes to performance, good or bad. Pech put up some very good numbers tonight showing his potential. Can't wait till November so we can see how these fellas play on the real court!

Thanks for the updates Ivan. Making the summer sports blues go by a lot easier.

Posted by: Nick | July 14, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Who the F is Stromile Swift?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see O-Pec's performance tonight. Just hoping Ernie can get something real good for Navarro. Picking Stevenson over Navarro (essentially to placate Gilbert) may turn out to be a grievous error unless he does get the moon for Navarro.

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 1:27 AM | Report abuse

They'd only get Swift. Please. That's not worth it, even if they take Etan's contract. Not sure I like the idea of the Wizards not signing JCN. That could hurt them. I certainly didn't like reading that JCN wasn't even the second option if DeShawn didn't sign. Can't believe EG would prefer Devin Brown instead of JCN.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we should me a little more concerned about this Blatche situation. Dallas might offer their mid-level exception, and Ernie probably won't want to pay that. Ernie's talked a good game in the past -- he said he wanted to keep Hughes and Jeffries, too -- and then let them walk (in Hughes' case, by insulting him with a lowball offer). I'd hate to see Blatche go, too. He really shows flashes for a young guy. I'm just not sold on Ernie yet...

Posted by: Jake | July 14, 2007 1:41 AM | Report abuse

I'm curious about the Dallas move with Blatche. Any thought here that they might be thinking ahead towards 2009? The thought being that if the team drives up Blatche's price, they could limit the cash available for a Wizard resigning of Arenas? I could also see them wanting to add Blatche on his own merits, but I wonder if there might be other considerations at work for them.

As far as tonight's game when, it was good to see some of the action. Young had some good shots, Pech had a great 1st quarter and showed some good range from the 3 point arc. The most consistent player though was McGuire. The guy never quits. It's hard to see how he WON'T be a key player off the bench this year. Miles looked solid too earning some highlight reel worthy assists -- I could see him potentially earning a spot on the regular season roster.

Posted by: JPT | July 14, 2007 1:43 AM | Report abuse

The Blatche situation scares the bejeezus out of me. Ernie Grunfeld has been nothing short of masterful so he gets my benefit of the doubt and the Wiz DO get to match any offer...but playing hardball and leaving Blatche to chance seems like a mistake to me.

Locking Blatche up at the same terms as Amir Johnson got seems like a freakin steal to me.

Posted by: JJ | July 14, 2007 1:58 AM | Report abuse

JCN + John "hot plate" williams + Jenna jameson for Nowitzki

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Lets face it, Blatche will be gone. Every year several free agents get overpaid and jump ship to other teams, blatch will be one of those guys.

Posted by: tmac | July 14, 2007 2:06 AM | Report abuse

EG's in a tough bind cuz nobody wants Etan or his contract. no team wants to pay that luxury tax. to make a good deal, EG ideally needs a team that's under the salary cap and needs a veteran big man. most reports say Memphis, but quiet as kept...the ideal team would really be the Chicago Bulls!

the Bulls have 9 players that account for $46.8M. that's like $9M below the salary cap. PJ Brown is talking about retiring, they aren't talking about bringing Mike Sweetney back and the only front court player they have is Ben Wallace. Scott Skiles loves tough, defensive bigs that don't mind doin' the dirty work. Etan does play kinda recklessly, so he'd fit in with their team philosophy.

the beauty about the Bulls bein' under the cap is that they can take Etan's salary w/o the Wiz having to take anything back...other than a 2nd round pick in '09 or '10. the Wiz then acquire a trade exemption -- i'm not sure what the value would be though. they could throw in the rights to Juan Carlos Navarro and possibly get a 1st rounder in '09 for Etan and Juan Carlos.

if the Bulls traded for Etan, they'd still be almost $2M under the cap and $14M under the luxury tax. that's more than enough to sign 5 players to play for the minimum!

if John Paxson's willing, i'm sure there's a deal to be swung! its a win-win for both teams.

Posted by: builtfromwax | July 14, 2007 2:27 AM | Report abuse

That is the last thing I want to see is Blatche a Bull. We will be regretting it as he kills us in the playoffs for the next bunch of years. I hope we can keep Blatche, there is so much talent and ability there.

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 2:50 AM | Report abuse

STFU + STFU for STFU and a 1st rounder

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 6:22 AM | Report abuse

Now we got Stevenson, so gotta move JCN--though I hate to lose him--'cause we can't afford him. One possible option would be to trade JCN alone for a really good future draft pick, (nothing worse than a top 10 first round!) thus not obligating this season's cap space. Unfortunately though it seems we need to use JCN as an included piece to make Etan or Brendan tradeable. Anyway, Ernie's reputation may be at stake for what he does this offseason. He already has made a statement in keeping Stevenson, who has worth for the Wiz, just not a major upside (we may have seen his whole package, albeit his 82 games played back-to-back seasons plus solid shooting, defense helps to build chemistry, so guess I'm undecided about him.)

Going full circle, we may have to package JCN with one of our stiffs to make it possible to retain Blatche.

Ernie's going to find a way, hope the curse doesn't mess him up.

Posted by: cuzco03 | July 14, 2007 7:51 AM | Report abuse

I think EG will find a way to keep Blatche. Especially since the Wizards can match any deal he gets.

If the Wizards can trade JCN's rights and etan's contract for an expiring contract, that's good thing. Gives us room to sign a veteran next season depending on how all these young players work out. Maybe JCN is good, but this is just a wrong time for a combo guard to come to the Wizards

Posted by: Bart | July 14, 2007 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Ernie now has step one in place, by not breaking the bank in signing Stevenson he's left some wiggle room to move on to his next steps.
Blatche now rises to the top of the deck, yes Mikie, we'll be hearing news about Blatche now! No one could put an offer sheet on the table before the 11th, agents of restricted free agents always have to let the big unrestricted free agent signings take place first and then see who has money left to make an offer.
At this point with Memphis signing Milicic and Charlotte commiting most of the cap dollars elsewhere it's beginning to look like the most Blatche would get would be a team that is willing to spend the full Mid Level Exception on him. When you stop and think about it that's really alot to spend on pure potential.
That's what Milwaukee did with Thomas, who at the time had shown flashes but had some injury issues in Dallas and here that had limited his playing time. Flash forward to today and he has a bloated contract for a guy that still flashes that potential from time to time but his career numbers are still those of an overpaid backup.
Yeah, Blatche could blow up and be the "next Somebody" or in four years all of us arm chair GM's will be saying, "Why did Grunfeld waste 8m a year on that guy?". More likely he'll just turn into a good NBA player that will keep flashing thoose games at you from time to time and let you dream of how great he could be in between nights where he barely shows up.
If Dallas flashes the full MLE at Blatche then Grunfeld could match or a sign and trade could be a possibility. Dan Snyder's fellow Billionaire Boys Club Member Mark Cuban could pay the full MLE and the luxury tax money it would create without crimping his life style much. He could just look at it as some kind of fine and mouth off about the luxury tax and pay it.
Or more likely, he's looking at engineering a sign and trade with us. Could Cuban be shopping to get Navarro's rights along with Blatche? He's got two centers that might interest us, though Dampier is overpaid for what he is, and he's always wheeling and dealing.
His team lead the league in wins last year but flamed out again in the playoffs. He loves the international guys, could a Blatche offer be the first step in trying to engineer a sign and trade with us that would net him Navarro and then put together a deal with Memhis for Gasol?
Just Blatche doesn't make a whole lot of sense for him to spend luxury tax dollars on, but if he could engineer something to put Dirk, Navarro and Gasol together he wouldn't mind opening up the old wallet to the league.
Him and Donnie Nelson have always had their organization tuned into the international players more than any other club. If Navarro is the next big thing from Europe and Ernie has made it no secert that he's willing to deal him, I can't beleive Dallas isn't in the game unless he's totally overated.
Could a Blatche sign and trade be part of a bigger Dallas, Memphis, and Washington three way? Ivan, has your birdie got anything on that?

Posted by: GM | July 14, 2007 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Hey GM, in your scenario, what do the Wiz get in the three-way?

Posted by: cuzco03 | July 14, 2007 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Blatche in no way affects Gilbert. The Wiz can pay Gilbert more than any other team. Doesn't matter what the cap looks like you can go WAY over the cap to keep your own player.

Posted by: eric | July 14, 2007 8:45 AM | Report abuse

We must plan now to avoid luxury tax in one more year when we have to sign Gilbert and figure out if we can afford Jamison. Trading Etan frees up salary space. Go sign Blatche and figure out how to get Camby here...Go Ernie! Subtract Haywood and Etan.

Posted by: wizfanatic | July 14, 2007 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Ivan has mentioned that MLE is only enough to be used for either DS or JCN. I thought MLE is for free agent, but if JCN is signed, isn't his salary goes by the rookie salary schedule, since he is a rookie and not a FA?

Posted by: Sagaliba | July 14, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Ok everyone, lets chill here.
Don't fall into the trap of wanting your team to sign and keep every stud player they can. There is only one ball on the court and x amount of minutes per game.

- Assuming DeShawn brings the same intensity that he had in his contract year, the move to resign was fine. It keeps the core together and he is one of the few willing to play D

- After all these years of waiting, I would LOVE to have JCN play here. However, the truth is that like most Euro's he plays no D which is not what this team needs. Plus, they just drafted a 2-guard in Young. You therefore can't bring him on now, just not enough minutes

- If they can move JCN and a contract (preferably Etan of course), then getting picks OR future cap help is huge. Next year the Wiz will need to pony up for GA and Jamison. While I don't like Swift as a player, he only has one year left and you know that means he will bust his hump this time around. I like the Kyle Lowry thoughts.

- Amir Johnson, who is in a similar situation as Blatche (former HS player entering his 3rd year) just got 4 mill a year. Blatche now figures to get that, even from a team like the Mavs. If someone wants to go nuts and overpay him dramatically, so be it. But I say 70-30 he comes back, but the better McGuire looks, those odds could drop. Also, if they can't move Etan, the odds could drop lower. With DS, Pesh, Etan and McGuire, there would not be a lot of minutes left over.

- Can't imagine they move Haywood unless they get a starting center back. They can afford to go without a true backup center to Haywood and go with a Songalia/Blatche/Booth situation, but not sure you can afford the same with the injury-prone Thomas as your starter. Not going to get excited about any Camby rumors at this point.

- Nice game from Pesh last night. Really liking Miles now and hope he stays. McGuire continues to impress and I think Visser has a real chance to make the team if they move Etan

Posted by: Ben | July 14, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

cuzco03,

Haywood is very tradable, I am sure Memphis or Atanla would not mind just take him alone, even Nets reportedly were interested, but EG does not want to trade him. The reason Etan is difficult to trade is because of his contract. EG wants to trade Etan to gain cap room. Trading Haywood would only give you less than MLE.

All these years people complaining about Haywood not giving 100%, it was Etan who has bigger contract and was either injured or sitting on the bench.

Posted by: Sagaliba | July 14, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I think its a good buy. under $3.75 mil per year for a starting 2 guard. Everyone is concerned about salary cap and signing agent zero but at the same time people want JCN and Blatche.

Hello is anyone thinking??? JCN would get midlevel $5-6 mil per year and that would take away the chances of signing Blatche and giving Gil his contract.

Stevenson's contract is not putting us in a bind. Ivan says his contract leaves room to sign Blatche.

STOP LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD!!!

IF WE SIGN JCN WE WOULD HAVE NO TRADE BAIT TO CREATE CAP ROOM FOR MORE IMPORTANT THINGS!!!

WHOEVER SAID THEY ARENT SOLD ON EG THEY NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DAYS OF JORDAN AND BEYOND WHEN WE COULDNT REACH THE PLAYOFFS.

WASHINGTON FANS ARE SO VOLATILE AND SPOILED!

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | July 14, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Everyone here fails to realize that EG is trying to find a dominant, at least better than what we got, center that can bang, score, rebound, and play some mid-level defense. That's why EG is offering JCN and Etan; JCN is the real deal for other teams, but Eg is saying I not just going to give this guy away; I what somehting in return. That in return is the center, a 2nd round pick at least, and some freed up money for signings next year.

I believe EG is somewhat wedded to Haywood becazuse of his height and ability to block shots; we have done better when he is in the line-up. haywood just has to be taught not to do flay-aways and go to the basket and draw the foul. Plus Haywood gives us better defense because of his height against other eastern conference centers; Etan does not. Etan is really a power forward, not a center.

Etan will be just like a Jahid White, nothing when he leaves here, so he can go.

But my sense is no one is going to take the offer and then we will have to find out how to sign JCN on the cheap or another trade deal/scenario will arise. Don't want to speculate what that is, but Blatche and AD will be here next year.

And it we do need a third point guard which we do not have if we let JCN go.

We may be able to just let Etan go and free up money to sign JCN, which will ive us OP as a back-up center and Booth.

Posted by: Arm-Chair GM | July 14, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I like DeShawn for what he brings, but I do have a problem with the contract. For much of the bidding process it seems Washington was bidding against themselves, raising the offer just because DeShawn wouldn't sign and not because there was a better offer on the table from another squad. That's just bad business. Of course we don't know for sure if that was the case, but I do know that you can look at any other newspaper from any NBA city and you don't see DeShawns name anywhere. That at least says that the market wasn't exactly overflowing with opportunities for him. EG had all the options in the world (JCN, Brown, Young and the possiblity of adding in trade)so he could (and should) have taken a harder line in negotiations with Stevenson's camp.

I love what EG has done for this team with trades and his decisions in the draft (Young, Pecherov, McGuire and Blatche all figure to be good players)but honestly the two contracts he's given to our own free agents and the one he dealt out to AD were all over inflated. Grunfeld has a hot item in JCN that everyone wants but he's probably devaluing what he would get in trade a little because he has to include his biggest contractual mistake in the deal to salvage some of the franchise's future. I just don't want to see Deshawn's contract come back to bite us in the butt like Etan and AD's are.

Ben, I like Miles a lot too. It's been a while since we've had a true PG on the roster behind AD and he's shown that he can run the show if called upon. He plays pretty good on the ball defense too. I just don't know where his roster spot comes from if we retain Blatche and Hall. Maybe we could "Mike Hall" him and stuff him away on the IR until the need arises?

I could live with a Stro/Lowry deal for JCN/Etan...but only after Memphis talked us down from a Warrick/Conley deal (which doesn't work money-wise I don't beleive). EG should be asking for the moon like everyone claims he is because he needs this deal to clear cap space and bring in a quality player or pick.

Posted by: Jay | July 14, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

As soon as Washington fans hears a buzz about a person they want to get em. They dont know what he can do and I'm sure they havent seen him play.

Lets play this scenario like our great Dan Snyder would:

1. The Buzz is great for JCN
2. We sign him to $6mil/yr
3. We lose Blatche this yr and DS
4. He becomes a backup 3rd PG/2nd SG
5. He averages no more than 10 pts/game
6. In 08-09 possibly we lose Jamison (contract year) and/or Arenas (contract year)
7. We lost depth and possibly a starter or two.
8. WE BOO EG OUT OF TOWN!!!
9. BEING WASHINGTON FAN PRICELESS
7. We BOO EG out of town.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | July 14, 2007 10:46 AM | Report abuse

i thought ivan said amir johnson's deal was 4 year for 12 mil, that's only 3 mil a year, not 4. so unless some team offers blatche major bank, we should be able to retain him for up to about the same contract as stevenson's.

trading jcn and etan for swift, wouldn't be that bad at all. it not only saves us 1.5 mil this season, but then swift comes of the books next year. plus swift is a solid player, at least as good as etan, if not a little better.

Posted by: JC | July 14, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Well Deshawn will be here. Only hope now is that we improve in the BIG man dept.
I still don't like going into the new season as we finished. What are the goals for this team? Just to make the playoffs.
We'll do that if no more changes are made but won't go too deep. We need to IMPROVE not stay the same. Common Ernie earn your $$$$$.
McGuire, Young & the big O showed some game in the 3 SL games let's hope the improvement keeps coming.
They could help.

Posted by: Sam H | July 14, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

it was mentioned in an article that Amir Johnson was offered 4yrs $12 million.

DS took 3.75 of the 5.365 mid-level; that leaves 1.605. It was mention in an aritcle that Wizards have offered Blatche a prelimnary offer-it had to be no more than 2 million a year for 4yrs-$8mil.

Since everyone else is over the cap, Blatch is locked-up for us.

The question still remains what team really whats JCN that they will take Etan and give up something HUGH! Because that is the only way a deal is going to happen.

We may be better off keeping Etan since we really have no back-up cneter that will be able to produce what we need if we give him up.

Memphis, Miami, nor Cleveland has anything work getting. Memphis reportedly signed Darko for their mid-level; if they are willing to give him up for JCN and Etan or possible Haywood, then that would be a deal, if we could get a 2nd rounder with it. Mourning in Miami, but not sure if he is worth it unless we get a first rounder, but it doe snot make sense to improve or competitor in our division. No way to Cleveland, they do not have anything we need or willing to give-up.

We (fans) are in a wait and see no need to speculate anymore.

Posted by: Arm-Chair GM | July 14, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I think the value we got for DeShawn is pretty good. He started 82 games for us last year and got less money than chumps like Matt Carrol, Kapono (bench guys)and Luke Walton. Also, I think it showed loyalty and kept him happy to pay him a bit. Ernie refuses to get caught in overpaying for players, and for this reason alone he is a great GM. Do you know how badly the Cavs regret overpaying Hughes and the Knicks Jeffries?

Posted by: RC | July 14, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Stromile Swift? Oh please no.

Posted by: ineedpoon | July 14, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Arm-chair says buy Etan out and sign Blatche and JCN.

What's wrong with that? Is it a one year lux tax bite? If so, Abe won't allow it, but it would help the Wiz' future by getting these talented players on board. Then next year, go back to the no lux tax internal team rule.

It doesn't help get the Wiz a true center, but one doesn't seem out there anyway, unless you acquire a journeyman expediency you'll regret by December.

So it comes down to talent vs. money.

Posted by: Ed | July 14, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Show Me The Money
Big spending doesn't always pay off. Just ask the New York Knicks. The Knicks, who missed the playoffs last season with a 33-49 mark, were strapped with a $45 million luxury-tax bill Friday. That means New York owes almost $40 million more than the second-highest paying team in the Mavs, who finished with the league's best record.

Team Money Owed
1. Knicks $45,142,002
2. Mavs $7,204,968
3. Nuggets $2,022,418
4. T-Wolves $998,536
5. Spurs $196,082

Blatche is not going to the Mavs; he will be here in Washington next year.

Now if the Nuggets want to to do a deal. I woul dbe willin to trade JCN and Etan for Camby and a 2nd rounder.

We get a center who would compete with Haywood for starting Center, a future pick to add to our depth of young players and buildign the team for the future (next year's calss will be better than this years), and we get freed up cap-space for our resignings next year.

Make it happen EG!

Posted by: Arm-Chair GM | July 14, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The money for Deshawn seems a little high, but overall i think its good they brought him back, and didn't pay WAY too much.

There really aren't minutes for JCN. So if they can get any decent big and/or cap relief it would be good. As much as Brendan drives me crazy it makes for sense to keep him and dump Etan's big contract. (Obviously thats what Ernie is aiming for, hopefully he can pull it off) The tricky thing there is can Eddie and Brenda make it through another season together?

- I am loving MacGuire. He is high-energy and seems to have a little of that tough juice in him. As a 2nd rounder who thought he'd go in the first my man is going to play w/ some purpose every chance he gets.

- hope to see Miles on the roster.

- so far I am unimpressed w/ Nick Young. I watched most of the Sac game, and the whole game last night and he looks like a scorer (well, shooter)and not much else. Lazy passes, poor and forced shots, missing open cutters ... Plus he seems to pout when its not going well and doesn't bring it on D. Hopefully I am misreading him. I realize it has been only 3 summer league games and many of the top picks have been struggling, but Young seems to have a ways to go.

- Will DeShawn's game drop off now that he got paid???

Posted by: pepcoenergy3 | July 14, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

DS2 + Ben's Chili Bowl + Republic Gardens for Kwame Brown + Venice Beach

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

JCN and Etan for Stromile and a draft pick would be an upgrade from what the Wiz have now. Stromile would flourish in this offense. plus, he has one year remaining on his deal to free up cap room for next season. so, you know he is going to bust his ass. there is a nice crop of free agents next year, including Gil and Jamison. EG has done one hell of a job for this team. there is a 180 degrees difference as to where the Wiz would be if MJ was still running the show. so the EG haters just need to chill out and let him do his thing. however, if the Wiz arent doing so good by the all star break, dont be surprised to see a trade.

Posted by: Crofton Carl | July 14, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Well, the Stevenson signing has been completed for very reasonable $$...We do need some froncourt depth though - don't know whether Blatche is ready to contribute next year. How about a cheap athletic big like Chris Mihm - he boards well, he blocks and he runs - a perfect fit for the Wizards and best of all he should come cheap...

Posted by: Mikey | July 14, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

JCN + a donkey punch for Paul Pierce and a dirty sanchez.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

there is enough to pay for blatch bc he doesn't count towards the MLE. Also these deals always have built in raises... so i don't think that Deshawns deal starts at the 3.75 more like 3.2 and rises by 10% every year. So we have 2.1mil left of the mle... now would jcn sign for that? I doubt it but there is always a chance. The real issue here is abe not wanting to pay the luxury tax.
I would love it if we could lock up blatch for several years on the cheap i.e. with a similar deal to deshawn 4/15 without the player option (you have to give him a raise over the detroit guy bc he has played more and played better).

Everyone please remember that resigning blatche does not take away from the MLE bc of the Gilbert Arenas exception.

Posted by: Dante | July 14, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Alright Wayne from Bowie, you need to get your facts straight. First I don't know one person who wanted to keep JCN who wanted to give him the whole MLE. ESPECIALLY when you consider that JCN wanted a 3-year deal at $3 million per. Do you get that Wayne $3 million per year. That is less than the $3.75 per DS is getting. So please don't misrepresent the position of some of us who wanted to keep JCN.

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I was very happy in the Wiz summer league game against the Kings, and despite not getting the win( who cares about the record, they're just playing for experience) I think Nick Young did well, Dominic Mcguire did great, Mike Hall did alright, and that was about it
Visser sucks, he's missed about 7 or 8 layups through the first 3 games
in last night's game against Houston, we played unbelieveable basketball the first half and completely fell apart the second.
Pecherov was kickin ass,
Mcguire was having huge hustle plays
Young was making his shots (and bad passes)
Miles had so many sick dishes that lead to easy points
and
Visser made 2 layups! i was shocked
I'm looking forward to the game tonight vs. Cleveland

Posted by: TYLER | July 14, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

CAN SOMEONE CLARIFY THIS FOR ME?

JCN will be a NBA ROOKIE. Wizards just signed their first round draft choices Nick Young and Pecherov for less than 1.5 mil each. Why would JCN cost more than that? Isn't he also bounded by NBA rookie salary schedue??

Posted by: Sagliba | July 14, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Get this George. Do you understand since we got EG as GM every year there has been a change in our starting 5. Lets get some consistency here. We have some chemistry that we have going here. 750,000 is worth the chemistry not to mention JCN has to get use to the NBA game and then develope some cchemistry with the team. 750,000 more for a starter is better than paying JCN $3 mil to be a 7th or a 8th man. Im sure AD and NY is going to get there minutes. I admit DS is not a go to man he is at best a 3rd option who plays better defense than JCN.

If JCN can be used to clear some space for the future so be it. Remember Jamison is in his contract year also.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | July 14, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Wayne that is a much better argument than "1. The Buzz is great for JCN; 2. We sign him to $6mil/yr." at least we are now talking about things that are actually case.
Now here is where I think you are going wrong with your argument. We are talking about for 3 years a difference of $2.25 mill total and another year at $3.75 on top of that (the difference between the prospective 3-year $9 mill. deal for JCN and the DS deal). So is the continuity and the chemistry worth that extra money with probably a worse player. Lets examine it.
The fact that we have had a change in the starting 5 every year doesn't matter. The changes have helped us. Are you telling me that you wouldn't want to have Caron at the price we have instead of Larry at the price Cleveland got. Jeffries was overpaid, did you really want to keep him at that price. If we got something good for Haywood (another potential starting 5 change) would you really care if we waved goodbye to him?
Who cares about change if you are getting better, and no question about it the Wizards need to get better. Don't let the injuries at the end of the year fool you, this team is not where it needs to be. Now I have always said and continue to maintain that Deshawn being here or not has little to do with this team's chemistry, that the best (and maybe only) reason is to placate Gilbert.
Not only that, in Europe offenses are based more on movement, both with and without the ball. You think Eddie's offense would be perfect for a guard like JCN. Yes absolutely. And there is question in my mind he would jump ahead of Young and Daniels. He is a perfect compliment to Gilbert because of his passing ability and the fact he can move without the ball and find the open spot on the floor (that also goes for finding other people in there sweep spots on the floor).
Do we lose something defensively, probably, but it has been fairly established in many blog posts that DS did not come as advertised defensively (and of course was better offensively than we all thought). There, I hoped addressed your cogent arguments in favor of DS over JCN.
As for Jamison, if he resigns with the Wizards next summer it will be for significantly less than the $18 mill. he gets this year. Truthfully I wish we were hearing about a potential blockbuster where Jamison's expiring deal was being used to net us a near elite (but overpaid) player that could make the difference in the east.
Apologize for the rambling, I look forward to your response.

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

No not at all I like the dialogue.

I was actually one of those people who blogged my thoughts that DS was an overrated defender. I brought up stats of b list 2 gaurds who dropped buckets on the guy i.e. K. Martin's 40 points. Not to mention I blogged in a starting 5 that consisted of:
Haywood/Thomas
Blatche
Jamison
Butler
Arenas
which is more defensively threatening.

I really go back and forth and struggle with this decision but I think for the money we are giving him hell he can stay. I youtubed JCN and see he is an impressive player and I have raved on his abilities to my friends. But Im just not sure about him, something about him Im totally not sold on. I mean someone has to play some kind of D and JCN is a 6'4" guy and that wouldnt be good to match him or Arenas up with a SG in this league if on the floor at the same time.

The fact is JCN is our only trade bait where we can package him with E.T. (which I think is the better of the 2)and get some cap room. Something has to give this is $$$ we are dealing with and not fantasy.

I agree with all the changes EG made but DS's contract is not nearly what Jeffries and Hughes got. I think he is doing a great job as a GM.

I also agree with you about trading Jamison I also blogged yesterday that we should trade Jamison and E.T. to Utah for AK-47.

We agree on alot of things but you are too pro on JCN.

Posted by: Wayne from Bowie | July 14, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Wayne, I like that lineup with Blatche at PF but i think that antawn is too slow to guard high caliber small forwards.
I would like the lineup
C blatche
PF jamison
Sf butler
sg stevenson
pg arenas

in the games where we were missing antawn/caron and andray blatche started as a forward we were just ok; we won some, we lost more

I think he could be a good C if he bulks up a little. Andray is already taller (but alot skinnier) than Etan
And he is smaller than brendan but more athletic and talented

Posted by: TYLER | July 14, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why Kevin Garnett is never mentioned in trade rumors going to the wizards for
Jamison
Blatche
JCN
+
1st round draft pick
2nd round draft pick
that wouldn't even tear up our team
1st string
C Haywood
PF garnett
sf butler
sg stevenson
pg arenas
2nd string
C Thomas
PF songalia
SF Mcguire
SG Young
PG Daniels

i think thats a great trade for both teams if i were either side i would do it

minnesota gets young players, expiring contract,picks

washington gets a supestar

Posted by: TYLER | July 14, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why Kevin Garnett is never mentioned in trade rumors going to the wizards for
Jamison
Blatche
JCN
+
1st round draft pick
2nd round draft pick
that wouldn't even tear up our team
1st string
C Haywood
PF garnett
sf butler
sg stevenson
pg arenas
2nd string
C Thomas
PF songalia
SF Mcguire
SG Young
PG Daniels

i think thats a great trade for both teams if i were either side i would do it

minnesota gets young players, expiring contract,picks

washington gets a supestar

Posted by: TYLER | July 14, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe so, I am glad we see eye-to-eye on a lot of things.
Just having watched JCN in the World Championships (and yes I understand that is a questionable indicator), I just believe that he is exactly what the Wizards need. That is also based on the fact that JCN in the lineup would accomplish two things.
One, moving Arenas to the 2 (which I think is necessary if the Wizards want to be a championship conteder.
Two, leading the Wizards to move towards running the Princeton offense with more regularity (which in my vision for the Wiz means an easier time at the offensive end, leading to the ability to give more effort at the defensive end).
Maybe a bit pie in the sky, but that is why I was so much in favor Navarro being a Wizard. Ernie has been right in people he let walk (Jeffries, Hughes), but in those cases they were offered far more than what they worth. That isn't the case with JCN and I think if the Wizards weren't so damned worried about the luxury tax I feel like Navarro would be here.

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

who do you guys value more, and in what order. a) Navarro b) A.D c) deshawn
I wonder what the cap hit would be if we squeezed blatche and navarro in the traded away one of the centers.
Also the reason I asked the first question was because I wondered if its possible for AD to get traded away. I mean look at what denver was willing to give to blake who ran back to the blazers. I wonder what we'll have to give them to get Kmart and camby.Probably a point gaurd, one (or two) of the centers and a power forward. Both of the denver guys have either worked with EG or EJ.
about dmac i'm not surprised, this is a guy who got two triple doubles in college. and comparisons are going from g-wallace, kirilenko, young kenyon martin, scottie pippen to shawn marion

Posted by: bruceO | July 14, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

who do you guys value more, and in what order. a) Navarro b) A.D c) deshawn
I wonder what the cap hit would be if we squeezed blatche and navarro in the traded away one of the centers.
Also the reason I asked the first question was because I wondered if its possible for AD to get traded away. I mean look at what denver was willing to give to blake who ran back to the blazers. I wonder what we'll have to give them to get Kmart and camby.Probably a point gaurd, one (or two) of the centers and a power forward. Both of the denver guys have either worked with EG or EJ.
about dmac i'm not surprised, this is a guy who got two triple doubles in college. and comparisons are going from g-wallace, kirilenko, young kenyon martin, scottie pippen to shawn marion

Posted by: bruceO | July 14, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Stromile's not that bad at all. He'd be a rock solid back-up PF, better than anything we've got.

One thing I've never understood about the NBA is why it does all its stats per game, rather than per minute. A guy like Swift gets dissed because his numbers look low, but he only gets back-up minutes (about 20 a game over his career). You extrapolate his numbers out to starters minutes, and all of a sudden you're talking 17-18 ppg and 8 rpg. Which isn't far off from Jamison land. Plus he has the rep of being a solid defender (with a couple bpg).

He's real, decent depth.

Posted by: DCinCO | July 14, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Bruce to get a Camby or a K-Mart, I think at the minimum you are looking at Jamison (expiring contract), Navarro (a talented guard they need now that Blake has left) and they would probably only take one of two bad contracts on this team (Daniels or Etan, probably Etan). And that doesn't even count what draft picks might get thrown in. I am not sure there is a GM in the league who would take both Etan and Daniels in one deal (and if they did, we would be getting back some awful contracts no doubt about it).
And now I will answer your question: 1. Navarro, 2. DS (cheaper, more durable than Daniels), 3. Daniels.

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

If we loose Navaro it will come back to haunt us for years.....trust me. He is the real deal. One NBA exec. said "navaro had the best floater I have ever seen". He said "EVER!!!!" do you guys get it. This is the kind of player that makes everyone around him better, a proven winner, a proven leader and he can not be defended. We have his rights and we are going to loose him....typical of my Wizards. Hamilton, Webber, Wallace X 2, They love to break my heart. For those compairing Debrick to Navaro....Pleeeeessssssee. There is no comparison. What has DeSawn ever won. He was just a poduct of playing with the big three...ie. JJ, Hughes. Navaro is THE MAN and we are just going to let him go for peanuts...NOOOOOOOOOO, Not Cool. We need this type player and players like him to get to the next level, conference finals.

Posted by: Surfer | July 14, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

good grief, TYLER. you have to ask why Minn would not make that trade with us invloving Garnett? are you serious? you seriously don't think they could do better than that poo poo platter you put toghter? Minn was in talks to get Amare and your talking about that bucket full of crap?

Posted by: C-lo | July 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

who ever above suggested that Visser make the team......WHAT? he is absolutley terrible, have you been watching him at all.....he tries hard but that is where it ends. He is just a terrible player.

Posted by: Mangomike | July 14, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm very happy the Wizards kept DeShawn at a fair price. I agree with the posters above that Blatche will most likely remain a Wizard. Just so long as someone like Isiah doesn't offer a stupid contract.

If I were a betting man I'd bet on JCN staying in Spain. If Ernie doesn't get an offer he likes, so be it. I hope he does, but that's why he gets the big bucks.

I have to get two things off my chest after reading these posts over the last few weeks. One, JCN is an unknown, period. I don't care how many points he's scored in Spain or how many nicknamses he has, he's far from a sure thing. The other point is about summer league. It is interesing and fun to watch, but it means absolutely nothing.

Here's the first team all stars from 2005:

J.R. Smith - NOH
Travis Outlaw - POR
Sebastian Telfair - POR
Dwight Howard - ORL
Nate Robinson - NYK
Chris Kaman - LAC
Luke Jackson - CLE
Tony Allen - BOS
Jason Maxiell - DET
Ike Diogu - GSW

Posted by: Patrick | July 14, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

i'm beginning to think that we wiz fans have a snyder complex wherein we expect EG to go out and get everything done in the first day of free agency and make a splash.
Whereas EG has proven over the last two years that he takes his time and at the end of the day all the moves he makes end up improving the team. Instead of flipping out over DS or JCN lets give EG some time and sit back and enjoy the fact that we have a competent GM unlike the skins.
Some one on this board mentioned that every year we have had a new starter since EG got here. And that by signing Deshawn we would be getting some consistency. Well I am willing to bet that yes EG did sign DS for consistency and at a reasonable price but not for the consistency that you all think. Replacing one starter a year has worked out for us and isn't a huge deal to work one new starter into the rotation every year.
EG is keeping DS because he plans on getting us a new starter at a different position and to replace two starters in one year is too much turmoil. I would much rather see us upgrade our PF/C players than fret over the difference between JCN and DS


Posted by: Dante | July 14, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

visser stinks. hopefully (besides the draft picks) miles is the only summer squad member to make the roster.

why would denver trade camby?

ern is going to have a tough time finding someone to take on etan's contract. does isiah want him and JCN?

Posted by: pepcoenergy3 | July 14, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

this board has officially become lame...

Posted by: greg | July 14, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

DCinCO, a stats per minute stat is stupid; bench guys don't play 40 mpg for a reason.

Comparing Swift to Jamison? You're drinking too much of that funny Colorado water.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

i'd take back Stromile...if you look at his per/40...he's a 17/8 guy...he just is stuck behind Gasol.

Posted by: tim | July 14, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I think Swift could potentially be to us what K-Mart was for the Nets when EJ was running the offense there. He ABSOLUTELY has the talent, his attitude and work ethic have been his downfall, but in the right situation I think he could work out.

Posted by: RichBoy | July 14, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Swift got traded to Houston who really needed a starting PF and what did he do? Zilch. Houston traded him back with Rudy Gay just to get a solid glue guy in Battier. The guy ABSOLUTELY has the talent but so does Kwame. Enough said.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

One NBA exec. said "navaro had the best floater I have ever seen". He said "EVER!!!!" do you guys get it.

Puleeze, legendary icon Joe Gibbs also said they looked into everything about Desmond Howard and he was a can't miss player. Wow, that certainly was true... Yeah he's so proven. Just like Jasikevicius did in Indiana and where now? Stop dreaming, nobody knows how he's gonna do in the NBA. They even said Delfino was going to be better than Manu, yeah sure.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what EG tells EJ when EJ sees and hears that EG would rather move Etan than BTH.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 14, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

You're probably the same guy telling everyone to trust you and to sign Larry Hughes for more than Gil because he obviously was better than Gil too right?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

So George Templeton, if the Wiz can't win a championship with the best combo guard at PG, you think they can win it with the so called best combo guard in Europe playing PG huh? Wow, that makes sense. The reason the Wiz may not get that championship is their lack of defense overall as a team. You think Cleveland got there to the finals because of Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, or Boobie Gibson? You really think Tony Parker is a pure PG too? Go back to Gil and Parker talking about them both being scorers when they first met. Talk about being an idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert maybe the best combo guard in the game, but he can't run a team. He is a good passer, but not a good conductor of the offense. That is not his best skill. It is my contention that Navarro is better at that part of the game (running a team, conducting an offense) than he is at the scoring part (although he is very good at that too).
With Arenas not having to bring the ball up all the time and not having to put the effort in to try and run the offense, Arenas will have more energy to play some defense, which according to some posters on either this blog post or another one, he was apparently good at it when he was in Golden State. One way for this team to get better on defense is to be more efficient on offense.
And are you saying that the best combo guard in the NBA and his best bud (a decent but slightly above avg. 4th option on the team), will be a better backcourt than the best combo guard in the NBA and the best combo guard in Europe?

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 6:53 PM | Report abuse

George, I agree with your assessment about Gilby. One thing though, Gilby likes the ball in his hands regardless of whether he's 1 or 2. I don't think he will willingly relinquish that. With regard to JCN though, people who've seen him play compare him to Juan Dixon, who is not exactly a pure 1 guard. I've seen highlights of JCN where he's just dropping bombs. I want JCN here, but I don't think he'll be the answer to our 1 guard needs in running the Princeton Offense.

If Les BouleS decide to trade JCN, it'll be a total letdown for those on this blog who've spent time talking about this cat. It better be for someone more exciting that SS from Memphis whom Les BouleS would only want b/c he's on his final contract year. I'd take SS and their 1st round pick next year.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 14, 2007 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Nate Robinson or Early Boykin for Gilbert Arenas

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I've seen the comparison and I can see why people make it, but I do think his PG skills are more developed than Dixon's. If they could Memphis' first-rounder will little or no protection that would be good.
I wonder if Ernie can't get anyone to take Etan in a Navarro deal if he might be able to convince Abe to go over the luxury tax for just this year to keep Navarro, since the Jamison money comes off the books next year.

Posted by: George Templeton | July 14, 2007 7:52 PM | Report abuse

The reason we are having trouble getting rid of etan thomas is because he showed flashes if becomig a good player the season before he became a restricted free agent. he hasn't improved!!! andray blatche averaged less than 4 points and 4 rebonds. history has shown us that we should let him become a maverick, net, or whomever. i see no reason to give a team's 4th string power forward a "rewarding" contract.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

We either keep JCN and worry about a center next year (which I think is the best decision if Wizards are willing to goover luxury tax to keep JCN) or trade JCN and Etan or Haywood to Denver for Camby and a draft pick.

Blake just left Denver so they are without a back-up point guard; JCN could be a fit, aothough I don't want to let his potential go for our future squad and the other potentials on the bench.

Other free agent cneter like Jamaal Maglorie sign with Nets; Darko with Memphis; so wer either stick with what we got and sign JCN with some luxury tax or we try to make a deal.

Downside is no one wants Etan's contract.

Let's wait and see.

Posted by: Arm-Chair GM | July 14, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm A Maryland Grad and season ticket holder who saw all of Dixons college games. I love Dixon, but to compare navaro to him is not a good comparason. Navarro was playing proffessionally ar age 17, while Dixon was still playing high school ball up at Calvert Hall. Navaro was playing on spain interenational team before Dixon even got of the Terps bench. Navarro has many more skills then Dixon. He has the Floater and will go to the basket if you come out too far on him on defense, if you lay off him, his jumper is as good as Dixons. All I am saying is you load your team with this type player when building a champion. It would be nice if, during the season, when one of our big three goes down, and one of the other two needs a rest or gets in foul trouble to be able to go to our bench knowing we have a guy who can light it up at any moment. We can still put up the points even with two of our big three ouot of the game. Navarro is a absolute steal at 3 - 4 million a year. Love all the post guys...keep it up. We are all Zards fans and we all want the same thing. A wizards team that is always a threat to win it all......lets build a dynasty. Go Wizards

Posted by: Surfer | July 14, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

"Swift got traded to Houston who really needed a starting PF and what did he do? Zilch. Houston traded him back with Rudy Gay just to get a solid glue guy in Battier. The guy ABSOLUTELY has the talent but so does Kwame. Enough said."

I think that a team's makeup has a lot to do with a player's success. The system matters, and an athletic pogo-stick like PF may work much better in a system such as ours, which is built on atthleticism, as opposed to a burn the 24-second clock place suah s houston when van gundy was coaching. Battier absolutely fit that Republican style of offense that JVG implemented. When you have multiple superstars on your squad, you have to have glue guys that don't care about stats and just fit the system that's in place. Isn't that what DS is to us? Do you think we resigned him because he's the best SG in the league? Very short-sighted statement on your part, nameless one. A player's experience on one team does not dictate his performance overall. Caron wasn't so great in L.A., Gil wasn't Hibachi in G-State, and AJ was coming off the bench in Dallas. They come to DC and now they're all-stars. And to use Kwame as an example, I don't even have anything to say about that. I mean if that's the end-all-be-all of a player having talent but not ever panning out, then I guess no one ever makes it. Besides, that's not even a good example. Kwame is good at one thing, make that two: 1) having small hands, and 2) having a cooch.

Posted by: RichBoy | July 14, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

"Swift got traded to Houston who really needed a starting PF and what did he do? Zilch. Houston traded him back with Rudy Gay just to get a solid glue guy in Battier. The guy ABSOLUTELY has the talent but so does Kwame. Enough said."

I think that a team's makeup has a lot to do with a player's success. The system matters, and an athletic pogo-stick like PF MAY (Note: I am not predicting that Swift would be a breakout player as a Wiz, but read the post for the moral) work much better in a system such as ours, which is built on athleticism, as opposed to a burn the 24-second clock place such as houston when van gundy was coaching. Battier absolutely fit that Republican style of offense that JVG implemented. When you have multiple superstars on your squad, you have to have glue guys that don't care about stats and just fit the system that's in place. Isn't that what DS is to us? Do you think we resigned him because he's the best SG in the league? Very short-sighted statement on your part, nameless one. A player's experience on one team does not dictate his performance overall. Caron wasn't so great in L.A., Gil wasn't Hibachi in G-State, and AJ was coming off the bench in Dallas. They come to DC and now they're all-stars. And to use Kwame as an example, I don't even have anything to say about that. I mean if that's the end-all-be-all of a player having talent but not ever panning out, then I guess no one ever makes it. Besides, that's not even a good example. Kwame is good at one thing, make that two: 1) having small hands, and 2) having a cooch.

Posted by: RichBoy | July 14, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Also, I find it pretty sad that so many of the poster here are so narcissistic that any opinion that differs from their own has to be name-called. Not that I have been, just a general statement in reading posts. Seems like some of the posters here hide behind a nameless identity that allows them to let out their post-adolescent rage from being bullied and ridiculed in grade school. Some of you even think Grunfeld's an idiot! Laughable.

Posted by: RichBoy | July 14, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Uh, Jamison was the best 6th man in Dallas, Gilbert was hibachi enough in Golden State to warrant a huge contract here, and Caron was pretty damn solid in LA.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

This Blatche to Dallas thing is rediculous. Dallas is also supposedly interested in Steve Francis, Chris Webber, and James Posey. They're well into luxury tax area and are not going to pay $8-9 mill/year for someone to be their 7th man. I wish the rumours that got reported here would be limited to ones that actually exist in the realm of possibility (e.g. Navarro in a sign-and-trade for $6 million Posey??).

Posted by: Anonymous | July 14, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

"andray blatche averaged less than 4 points and 4 rebonds. "

Uhh, maybe only playing an average of 12 minutes a game for only 56 games where he started 13 had something to do with it this past season.

Even with the big two out for the season, AB only averaged 12.5 minutes during the playoffs against Cleveland. Looking at the roster Les BouleS has, the disjointed offense, and how his boy BTH was treated by EJ, AB really has no reason to want to stick around.

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 15, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

In a way it was good to see the Wiz finally hold on to DS their starting 2-guard and not let him get away like Hughes and Jefferies did the last two years. Kudos to EG for avoiding the hat trick.

Posted by: low | July 15, 2007 3:29 AM | Report abuse

"Uh, Jamison was the best 6th man in Dallas, Gilbert was hibachi enough in Golden State to warrant a huge contract here, and Caron was pretty damn solid in LA."

Read what you're saying. However you want to slice it, they were pretty good where they were, but the point is they have flourished here. Many factors play into that. The system, maturity, experience. Swift's not a world-beater, but I would take him over Thomas.

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Posted by: Sarah | July 15, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Is Anthony Nunley on our summer league team? LOL

Posted by: RichBoy | July 15, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"In a way it was good to see the Wiz finally hold on to DS their starting 2-guard and not let him get away like Hughes and Jefferies did the last two years. Kudos to EG for avoiding the hat trick.

Posted by: low | July 15, 2007 03:29 AM "

A good way to look at it, but if DS had any real ability at all, he would have gotten better deals elsewhere. Both Larry and JJ had better offers from other teams. DS had a Mickey D's job waiting for him if he decided to hold out.

"I can't feel my face b/c the deep fryer oil is too hot."

Posted by: DC Man88 | July 15, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"I think that a team's makeup has a lot to do with a player's success. The system matters, and an athletic pogo-stick like PF may work much better in a system such as ours, which is built on atthleticism, as opposed to a burn the 24-second clock place suah s houston when van gundy was coaching."

The type of player you describe is exactly what the Rockets needed at PF. They needed (still need) someone with size, length, and quickness to hit the boards, play defense and offset Yao's lack of speed and help keep him out of foul trouble. Swift had just the raw ability they needed, but he could never be bothered to capitalize on it. Same thing in Memphis.

Posted by: kalorama | July 15, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"This Blatche to Dallas thing is rediculous. Dallas is also supposedly interested in Steve Francis, Chris Webber, and James Posey. They're well into luxury tax area and are not going to pay $8-9 mill/year for someone to be their 7th man."

They're paying Erick Dampier near max money to play 20 mpg off the bench. They paid Jamison upwards of $12 or 13 mill to be their 6th man. Cuban has never shied away from throwing the money around for a guy he really wanted.

Posted by: kalorama | July 15, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

why stromile swift trade JCN+ AD for Mike Conley Jr.

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