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Blatche update

You may have seen the story out of Syracuse in which Andray Blatche yesterday told a TV station that he was not arrested and charged with solicitation in DC early last Thursday morning. Problem is, I'm looking at a police report and court documents right now which outline that Andray Blatche and a man name Gregory Palmer were indeed arrested and charged with solicitation on the morning in question.

Not sure why Andray would deny the charges when they are documented, filed and on the record. According to the document titled: "United States vs. Andray Blatche, the event occured on 8/2/07 at approximately 12:11 at 10 Thomas Circle NW in Washington DC. Blatche and Palmer were both accused of solicting an undercover officer working in the prostitution unit.

From the document, here is how it went down: Blatche and Palmer were in a vehicle when they pulled up at Thomas Circle.

Defendant 1 (identified by police as Blatche) : "Hey, what's up with you?"
Undercover cop: "You tell me."
AB: I'm trying to see what you're doing."
UC: "Do you want (Blank) or (Blank)?"
AB: "Well, I want both."
UC: "And what about you?"
D-2 (identified as Palmer) : "I want the same."
UC: "I charge $80 but I do two at the same time."
AB: "Yeah, I'm good with it."
UC to Palmer: "And what about you?"
GP: "Yeah, $80 is good."
UC: Aight, you want to pull right?"
AB: "Naw."
UC: "I have a room right here."
AB: "Uh, ok?"

At this point, according to the document, the cop gave a pre-arranged signal to other officers and Blatche and Palmer were arrested and later charged. A hearing for Aug. 31 has been set. Now, I'm not trying to pile on Andray but I did feel that it was important to show that myself and other reporters who worked on this story did our job correctly. Again, this doesn't mean that AB is guilty, just that he was arrested and charged. Again, I still think the Wiz and Blatche will come to an agreement on a contract but this didn't help speed things along.

Also, the agent who represents Mike Hall confirmed today that Hall signed the team's qualifying offer last month. The team never made an announcement. No new word on the Juan Carlos Navarro situation yet but I'm hoping to have something later.


By Ivan Carter  |  August 6, 2007; 3:30 PM ET
 
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Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Ivan,

I agree that it was foolish of AB to deny that this incident ever occured. We as an American people are very forgiving. He needs to apologize to all parties involved and begin the healing process (whatever that entails) and move on.

Posted by: Sixx | August 6, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update Ivan.

No comment on the Blatche situation..

Good for Mike Hall. I don't think he'll get much run, but good for him. I didn't think he showed enough in Vegas, but I guess the team saw enough last year to offer him the deal.

Posted by: Rook | August 6, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Andray!

Ig'nant. Just ig'nant. *sigh* *shakes head*

"I charge $80 but I do two at the same time."

No doubt! Those two got done...by Jill Law.

Posted by: iceberg | August 6, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Why would reporting the details of the police report be "piling on"? It's public information. Why didn't you report the details before, Ivan?
I can understand not doing it in the paper, but in the blog, you've lots of room to put this sort of information, and I think you know us well enough by now to know that we will appreciate any information you can give us.

Posted by: Sean | August 6, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

So what would you guys say if this was the deal we got for JCN:

Memphis receives J.C. Navarro

Washington will receive a first round pick from the Grizzlies

'08 if the Grizzlies select 20 or further down, it goes to the Wizards (top 19 protected)
'09 if the Grizzlies select 17 or further down, it goes to the Wizards (top 16 protected)
'10- '12 the Grizzlies pick is lottery protected
'13 - the pick is top 12 protected and if it has not been given, cash considerations will be given to the Wizards.

Posted by: Zonker | August 6, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

You saw that also. No way that EG did that.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

sean -

back before the internet...this type of information would never get reported...to expect this type police information as something ivan should be expected to do is unrealistic....Ivan reported exactly what needed to be reported at the time of the incident

Posted by: fred | August 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

This just happened Friday morning. The police report and the docs from the arraignment were probably available just today. Let's give Ivan a break, he's feeding us more info than anyone else.

Posted by: Prager | August 6, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I love that the word "Aight" is spelled out in the document. From a linguistic and/or grammatical standpoint, shouldn't there technically be an apostrophe between the 'A' and 'i' to indicate a contraction?

Posted by: C. Joe Divola | August 6, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

This makes me very nervous that the young boy can not even "fess" up to his mistake. That is not a very good sign. 10 million for 5 years instead of 12.5 for 5 years, with a team option on the 4th and 5th.

I can not go to bat for my boy on this one. The kid is disappointing me more and more. Man what a waste of talent..........

Posted by: Bullets Fever | August 6, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

AB may mean that he got a deal with the 50 to drop the charges.

At least I hope that's what it means. He needs to let his agent do the talking for him.

Posted by: Zonker | August 6, 2007 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Tough juice needs to open up a can of whoop-a$$ on Andray.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Sounds to me like entrapment. The cop mentioned money first.

Now of course the smartest thing for Dray to do is to take his lumps, apologize and never do anything like this again.

But still the DC cops need to be getting it right, please.

Posted by: doclinkin | August 6, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

ENTRRAPMENT?!?! wazza... wha... fa...

WHACHOO TALKIN ABOUT, DOC?!?!?!

Posted by: Zonker | August 6, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

yeah like Marrion Barry wuz entrapped

Posted by: s | August 6, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

The b*tch set him up!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Marion Barry was entrapped. And I'm not some pipe-smoking rockhead. I'm a DC resident who doesn't like Barry at all, but when the police rent a hotel room, provide crack to a pro, and have that pro call MB and entice him to a hotel room to get high and get busy, it's entrapment.

Posted by: LouisTheRogue | August 6, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

From a legal definition. I'm saying any competent lawyer could blow this out the water. Though the real damage is done already.

Not saying Dray didn't intend to get nookie and pay for it, but in the transcript who is soliciting whom? Dude is just asking for some --you know-- and the ladycop is the first to bring dollar figures into the deally.

Posted by: doclinkin | August 6, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Michael Wilbon agrees with me on Navarro trade:

Washington, D.C.: What am I missing? Did the Wizards really trade away the right to a potential great player in Navarro in order to keep the mediocre Stevenson?

Michael Wilbon: Okay, you and I think EXACTLY the same way on this...I haven't talked to Ernie Grunfeld or Eddie Jordan...and I hardly ever find myself thinking Grunfeld makes a bad move. Look at Grunfeld's talent-scouting record. He's great at knowing who can play and who cannot. Yes, I must say, without benefit of any reporting, my initial reaction is that I hate this deal...I really, really like Navarro and think he could be on the ball and get Arenas off of it, which might be one of the reasons the Wizard didn't want him...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/08/03/DI2007080301151.html

Posted by: DCW | August 6, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I was just making two points:

1. I wasn't criticizing Ivan for not reporting this information before. Ivan seemed to think he was "piling on" by posting this information. Why does he think reporting public information is piling on?

2. I loved reading it, and want more!

Posted by: Sean | August 6, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

IMO having wilbon agree with you about the wizards might be more of a bad thing than a good thing. Wilbon shows about as much interest in the wizards as he does in yodeling.

Posted by: greg | August 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

f you ab you feg kiss as

Posted by: daddy | August 6, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Actually guys, I've felt it entrapment all along. He's 20 for cryin out loud...all she would have to do would be to lean her boobs(of size) in the window..case closed for a guy that age...I say entrapment.

Also, the the fact that they are asking him to drug test weekly is ridiculous.

He needs to hire a good attorney and not let this mess linger. Why he or his agent haven't I am clueless.
I am just glad it wasn't in virginia or you wouldn't see him attempt to play this year.(sorry Virginians)

Posted by: Robin | August 6, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Does Blatche's arrest mean I can get a spot on the roster again?

Posted by: Michael Ruffin | August 6, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

rule #1 don't give your real name.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back Robin! For what they are going to cost him, I hope Blatche got a good look.
The kid also needs to realize in the internet age, everything is going to end up online, including his comments in his hometown paper meant for family and fans.
He does need a lawyer to get a handle on this, and just shut up until he's ready to plea it out, and make a contrite statement.
I think there were a couple of "ladies" involved the night that him and Party John got bushwacked. Kid's quilty of serial bad judgement, jury's still out on if he'll grow up, or will have a serial rap sheet record like say Zack Randolph. Which was a guy some on this site wanted us to acquire. Can you imagine that guy in NYC?
I think in the end Ernie will still sign Blatche if he doesn't manage to throw more gasoline on this fire and gets it behind him quickly.
I can just hear some of the new lockerroom tags for Blatche. "Eighty Bucks" "Double Team" or changing 50 Cents to fifty/fifty.

Posted by: GM | August 6, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Robin...entrapment. Please note guys this statement is being made by two women. He is 20 years old....she came on to him.....what 20 year old would say "no"? In fact, what 40 year old would say "no"?

Posted by: Lisa | August 6, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness, I think this may be just a little too much information for me today.

I didn't know Big Boy got down like that.

Posted by: mrs prude | August 6, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

way to step up there blatche

Posted by: domo | August 6, 2007 6:51 PM | Report abuse

He's a kid. He broke the law (allegedly) and needs to deal with the consequences if he did.

But, it is a non violent crime for a 20 year old. Let's keep that in mind.

Posted by: Patrick | August 6, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

i thought even the ugliest dudes in the nba had easy access to the most beautiful ladies ... and AB has to pay for it?

Posted by: mk | August 6, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

No question that this was entrapment. She offered him (blank) and (blank) and then quoted a price. He never initiated anything. He will definitely walk, probably soon, when the charges are dropped. Shame on the officer for not following the rules.

That said, I'm not sure how much I blame the guy. I'm sure he's well aware of some the problems a number of NBA players have had with women over the years. Kobe and Juwan come to mind. Seems like whenever a player is accused of some misconduct involving a woman, scads of people yell, 'why don't you just pay for it,' the implication being that a pro will not go making false accusations.

I guess the lesson is, pay for it, but don't get caught.

Posted by: Bill Baxter | August 6, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Man is he dumb. Check that, he is basically a 20 year old high school drop out. Par for that course, I guess. But could you imagine a real ho getting propositioned by a 7' AB. Wouldn't be no 80 dollars; she'd be wanting to charge by the foot for that dude.

Posted by: oddjob | August 6, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Entrapment or not he shouldn' be doing it.

That's like Bill Clinton saying he didn't inhale. :P

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | August 6, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

So,this is what it has become. Let a talented young athlete go out and break the law,and have fans cover for him!It seems that even if it is "entrapment",he was still out there looking for "It".Now would you really expect your child at age 20 to go out on the streets looking for a girlfriend for rent.Let your child try that and see if you have the same opinion!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

ivan please leave that kid along he made a mistake and he is paying for it right now with his image and you (IVAN) will be in the same kid face after a game wanting a interview and I hope he remember everything you have done to try to hurt his image and you have tried it all will come back to you later please mark my words watch went you say about people let it go it over and done

Posted by: jf | August 6, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

WHAT?

Posted by: PM | August 6, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, dude was wrong and very well might lose a few million on his contract. Plus I'd hate for him to slide free and feel vindicated or in anyway emboldened by what should be a humbling situation to make him smarten up and grow up.

He's essentially a college kid with too much money and time on his hands, and quite frankly many a young idiot has done something stupid or regrettable during his summer vacation, or Spring Break or what not.

Nah, I brought up 'entrapment' because it's basic law enforcement procedural stuff. Shoddy police work. And I hate to see it.

In this case it's no big deal since the majority of offenders in this (relatively) victimless crime just need a slap on the wrist and the threat of public shame. But if you're enforcing a law, you know, do it right, otherwise you embolden the dudes you do catch.

Posted by: doclinkin | August 6, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

What I think is every time this 20 year old does something wrong it's spoken about but you know what have the Wizards really given him a chance NO do I think he will learn from this mistake YES so sign him already so we can see what he will really do

Posted by: lil cuz | August 6, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

He made a mistake but we all can let it go and move on nut ivan always print false information I have talk to some players about what ivan said and no one player I talk to from the wizards said anything to ivan about ab so some stuff he makes up I know players said that wouldn't interview with him this season so ivan just stop it over let it go

Posted by: jf | August 6, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I would really like to have the tape because this just sounds like these to men were singled out,o here and these so called officer really didn't do her job right she offered money it looks to me that from the liffle skip AB just said NAW and tried to pull off.

Posted by: ladies | August 6, 2007 9:20 PM | Report abuse

jf

Are you out of your mind? I suppose you believe that Ivan "made up" the police report too? Why in the world would he make something like this up?

Ivan - please ignore this idiot. We really appreciate your coverage...

Posted by: pk1 | August 6, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Ya number 1 player thank he all that but I don't even see him as much I see the rookie I saw the news in Syracuse and AB just wanted to defined his self woul'd anybody.

Posted by: man look | August 6, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Based on the legal definition of entrapment, this was not entrapment. Blatche initiated the exchange (his vehicle stopped by the officer and he said hello). The officer raised the option of doing "blank" and "blank," for a price, but that won't constitute the type of persuasion needed for an entrapment finding.

Posted by: Joe | August 6, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Only rich people do illegal things and get away with it and poor people trying get slammed but I wish I know Arenas cause he a hater if AB takem to the hoop he may miss out

Posted by: funny | August 6, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

first of all read in a straight line
AB didn't offer she did and are you the jury hell no so whatever ass JF

Posted by: look | August 6, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

jf is not use punctuation give it over it done i talk to many player in nba on me emergency red player fone me fone speak with voice of player and tell that ivan do bad thing write stuff from police report make me so mad mark my words watch went you say my fone also say jahidi white touch me in my special place i smile but now am angry again rarrrr

mom say ivan make up all story about me so angry now need to be held WHY no BTH here when I need him

Posted by: ab (i mean jf) | August 6, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

AB is a good ball player and everyone makes mistakes he just has to deal with it and he will

Posted by: OVER LOOKERS | August 6, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Yikes.

Didn't I read somewhere that OPEC and Blatche had "hit it off" and were going to be spending lots of time in the gym together? I was hoping for more than this from young Blatche. It'll be interesting to see how his teammates react to this.

I do hope that he ends up being forced to take a lesser contract. Whether or not he was guilty/entrapped/whatever, he needs to learn not to put himself in these situations.

I don't know--if the kid didn't learn from a bullet, though, what's he going to learn from this slap on the wrist?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Dont play yourself...... you act LIKE the story about you, damn Was you there?

Posted by: Dont play | August 6, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

i don't think anyone here thinks Blatche is a bad player, or doesn't want him back. I think the common notion here is that he needs to get his head out of his ass and square things up. Who cares how you want to rationalize his actions, point is it is illegal. He got booked. And the wizards (rightfully) have a problem with their investments getting arrested. (you would be completely brain-dead to ignore this)

Ivan on the other hand is the beat writer for the wizards and as such he is responsible for reporting on such mundane news items as prospective players getting arrested. He absolutely has done nothing to perpetuate Andre's problems. You see Andre has done that all on his own. Any player who has a problem with Ivan about this would be a bigger fool. (Not that anyone with an IQ over 10 even remotely believes you.) And anyone who is confused about this could not possibly have the brain power needed to form a complete sentence. Case in point!

Posted by: greg | August 6, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Bullets for dummies he was set up then two everybody need to grow up and deal with this issue Ivan took info and ran with everyone needs to come to there own conclusion but you know what we will soon see

Posted by: LALA | August 6, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with Ivan, I believe the Wiz are considearing not signing him or even a sign and trade deal. You have got to be rethinking bring in a knuckle head who from all accounts will probably not fulfill his promise and may spend more time in court than on the court. Now both the shooting and EJ's rotation makes just a bit more sense.

Posted by: Skeef | August 6, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

All u psuedo lawyers need to go back to law school... A police officer is ALLOWED to quote a price and unit being sold--that is not entrapment, thus there is no clear cut case for entrapment period! Who here is really arguing that Blachte was buying candy for him and his boy to eat with a sexy stranger...What crack are you guys smoking!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

let Ivan do what he do I don't have a problem with the report but, judgeing AB is not for you or me and mmmmm.... do you have a very bib IQ because congress men and big wigs do this too. Is this personal for you? may it is

Posted by: no words | August 6, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Greg,I agree with you. but take it a step further and say, "would I accept this from my 20 year old"?This "kid" is an NBA pro kids look up to these guys.Are they not able to respect that and do things the right way?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS BASHING IVAN BUT WHO CARES, EVERYBODY HAS THERE OWN OPINION BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU WHY GET MAD THIS IS SOMEONES ELSES CAREER YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ONE SO GET A LIFE

Posted by: NO MORE | August 6, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Greg, sorry the last comment was mine.

Posted by: PM | August 6, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Here's the likely deal for JCN from Memphis:

-----------------------------------------------

I have been told that this is how the Navarro deal shakes out... Memphis receives J.C. Navarro. Washington will receive a first round pick from the Grizzlies (contrary to what has been reported, I am told that this is how it will break down) I will try to make this as simple as I can, but it is a little tricky. '08 if the Grizzlies select 20 or further down, it goes to the Wizards (top 19 protected). '09 if the Grizzlies select 17 or further down, it goes to the Wizards (top 16 protected). '10- '12 the Grizzlies pick is lottery protected. '13 - the pick is top 12 protected and if it has not been given, cash considerations will be given to the Wizards. Chris Vernon

Posted by: DC Man88 | August 6, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Let me make this clear to anyone who wants to try and scare me with threats on this blog or anywhere else: I'm not scared of anyone. I'm not hiding either. I'll be up early every single day doing my job which is to get information on the Wizards and write about it.

Posted by: The Real Ivan | August 6, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

NO MORE you are right nobody should be bashing Ivan.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

i hope all you guys have a job and quit writing stuff on this website ivan is only thinking about his self

Posted by: jf | August 6, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

The Real Ivan,please keep doing so,and thank you for all you do

Posted by: PM | August 6, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

let's write something good tomorrow ivan stay off the kid for one day can you do that please

Posted by: greg | August 6, 2007 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah leave Ivan and Micheal Alone...yes i know i get a little impatiant sometimes because no reports in like a week but when there is no news than what can they do...

I personally would still like to sign and trade Blatche...propsed trade by me

Cavs Get:

-Blatche
-AD
-2nd Round Pick (if necccesary for pick to go through)

Wiz Get:

-Anderson Varajao

this would be a great deal we would get our a Shot Blocker, Rebounder with GREAT energy with the team that we currently have i believe he can actually start for us at the 5...i know we would lose AD to a rival but if health we can still beat the Cavs w/ or w/o Daniels....we are going to most likely sign Miles...and he seems like a very good passer and ball handler and not to mention his sneaky defense

Posted by: Fulvio | August 6, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

GROW UP PEN PALS GOOD NIGHT

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

i wish some of you guys we stop picking with ivan is is a beat writer thats his job to go out in get news for the wizards then report it. he is a good beat writer he lets us no everything we want to hear. and like he said the frist time if you guys do not like this website go some where else and get your news.


thanks ivan

Posted by: brandon | August 6, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

If you was getting up every morning writing correct information about the wizards know one say anything (ivan) but most of your information you write is not true about the wizards I know this I have heared so you not talking about ab but another stuff so if there is no news don't write anything but you make something up everytime

Posted by: j | August 6, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

jf,go away if you don't like it here

Posted by: PM | August 6, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Ivan has wrote stuff about players in the paper and I call the agent of the player to config and they haven't answered ivan calls but he print something anyway so this guy is right don't print false info guys make sure it right

Posted by: AD | August 6, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

You people just amaze me. you want information,come in here looking for it,and then when it does not match your idea of what is the truth you take it out on the messenger and not the truth of the story.Be a fan of the team and the game,and take it for what it is.Let Ivan and the gang do the job you "as fans"enjoy reading and posting to!

Posted by: PM | August 6, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey AB...that's strike 2.

Posted by: oddjob | August 6, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Yeah leave Ivan and Micheal Alone...yes i know i get a little impatiant sometimes because no reports in like a week but when there is no news than what can they do...

I personally would still like to sign and trade Blatche...propsed trade by me

Cavs Get:

-Blatche
-AD
-2nd Round Pick (if necccesary for pick to go through)

Wiz Get:

-Anderson Varajao

this would be a great deal we would get our a Shot Blocker, Rebounder with GREAT energy with the team that we currently have i believe he can actually start for us at the 5...i know we would lose AD to a rival but if health we can still beat the Cavs w/ or w/o Daniels....we are going to most likely sign Miles...and he seems like a very good passer and ball handler and not to mention his sneaky defense

Posted by: Fulvio | August 6, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

oops looks like someone posted the 'lay off the kids' comment as me.

Thanks PM, The real judgment call is on Ernie's side. I would think they will still make a fair offer, but you can bet their will be more than a few stipulations regarding behavior and legal issues. If i could make that much money I would suck up a few drug tests. As they say trust but verify.

I don't know what I would do if it was my kid. On a personal level this is pretty troubling behavior. Thank god I don't have to find out, but hopefully he can get things together. He has no choice but to take the heat, and keep trying to move forward.

Posted by: greg | August 6, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Good grief - I'm stunned by what people are saying here.

1) I am a lawyer and that is not entrapment, plain and simple. He will probably get to plea it down but that won't be because the case is weak, it will be because the courts can't handle a full out prosecution of every solicitation charge. I bet they lose the car tho.

2) Putting the legalese aside, can there be any doubt about what was going on with AB down on Thomas Circle and why he was there? Maybe the cops should have better things to do than put stings for this type of crime (or maybe not), but if getting a prossie is a crime, and is there any doubt that AB was down there to do something that was a crime? He got busted - he has to live with it.

3) The host(s) of this blog are reporters. Their job is to report. Does anyone here really believe that a reporter for the Washington Post makes things up? They have an op-ed page every day for opinions. They have some kind of audit department I'm sure that spot fact checks articles, and takes any REALISTIC claim of false reporting very seriuosly (anyone remember Jayson Blair or that other dude they made the movie about). At the end of the day a paper's life relies on its reputation. No way no how in this day and age about something as ultimately entertainment as the NBA would the Post allow false reporting.
4) All that being said, it has been very clear to me over his time covering the skins and wiz that Ivan is a diligent, intelligent, insightful reporter who does have good relationships with lots of the Wizards. His institution wouldn't allow false stories, but more importantly I can't begin to imagine that our man Ivan would do something like that. To accuse a journalist of something like that is the highest insult and should not be undertaken lightly.
5) Finally I used the term "host" above, and I meant it. This blog is hosted by Michael and Ivan, and we are guests. Guests need to behave or they should leave. I've said it before but we are very lucky to have this kind of insightful daily blogging from Michael and Ivan. If you don't dig it, beat it - don't ruin it for the rest of us, and don't make it something that makes either of the hosts get bent out of shape about - I'm hoping that wasn't Ivan with the comment above, but if it was, dude, on behalf of myself and I'm sure the other loyal readers of this blog, sorry man.

Keep up the good work.

On a Wiz note, anyone considered that AB just hurt himself with his negotiations with Ernie with this whole mess. The five year contract they were working with him before was pretty cheap - it will only get cheaper.

Posted by: charles jones | August 6, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

At this point I think it would be wise to keep AD, we don't have a ton of options for a suitable replacement. AD doesn't make a ton of jumpers, but he does distribute the ball well and he draws a ton of contact. I like the fearlessness he plays with. Kept wishing, maybe some of that would rub off on Hayes... but that never happened. Still trading AD to cleveland seems to leave us thin at guard.

Posted by: greg | August 6, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

I also 2nd the charles jones post.
Sometimes I hope those guys don't read the boards too closely.

Posted by: greg | August 6, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Charles Jones!

You all complain ad nauseum when there is NO information (it is the flippin' off season) and then complain about the info that is written - actually accusing Ivan of making stuff up!

Ridiculous!

Posted by: Lisa | August 6, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

yea but i believe that Miles will be a good back-up or they can even send us one of there back-up points...i wonder what it would take to get Daniel "Booby" Gibson...i bet he is worth more than Blatche and Hayes combined after his showing in the playoffs last year

Posted by: Fulvio | August 6, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I will repost this from the last blogpost.

Zonker, DCMan there is no way Grunfeld made the deal you are talking about for Navarro. It is more likely that it is a lottery protected in 2008, top 3 protected 2009, top 1 or unprotected in 2010.

CJ that was a good post, I just hope Blatche ends up with a shorter deal for less $$ per year and the loss of money will make him straighten up.

Posted by: George | August 6, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

That was me, not another George.

Posted by: George Templeton | August 6, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

DCMan got that info from another guys blog -not surprising since it appears he gets all his info from other sources. The info is all hearsay.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I wish you blogged for the Celtics

Posted by: Jared | August 6, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

ivan is doing a good job. keep up the good work.

ad should be kept!

i understand the desire to move the poet or brenda.

come on EG, make something happen .. make a splash.

Posted by: mk | August 6, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

for the fool bashing Ivan, get a life. go somewhere else, find a girlfriend, whatever. We all appreciate Ivan's (and Mike) work. keep up the good work fellas.

Posted by: tmac | August 6, 2007 11:55 PM | Report abuse

80 DOLLA MAKE YOU HOLLA!!!!!!

Posted by: wizfan | August 7, 2007 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Ernie Grunfeld should extend that same 5-year $12.5M contract for Blatche that Ivan said was extended before the incident. Only this time, it should be loaded with incentive clauses and team options so that Blatche has to bust his butt and keep his nose clean in order to get paid.

Posted by: nate33 | August 7, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

I also want to add my two cents in support of the charles jones post. The commenting on this blog has gotten really out of hand. I just hope that Ivan and Michael don't get tired of the b.s. comments and just give up on this.

Posted by: Mike in SD | August 7, 2007 1:55 AM | Report abuse

IF IVAN IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND AB CONTRACT I BET ALL OF YOU THAT THE CONTRACT IS DIFFERENT IN THAN IVAN SAID 5YR 12.5 I BET YOU IT IS MORE THAN THAT AND WHEN IT COME OUT YOUR HEARD IT FROM ME IVAN MADE THAT NUMBER UP WHAT GM OR PERSONAL WOULD TELL HIM THAT INFO NO ONE BELIEVE ME I USED TO WORK FOR A NBA TEAM I KNOW THIS THE NUMBERS OF A CONTRACT WILL NOT GET OUT UNTIL THE PLAYER KNOW HIS SELF AND I KNOW FROM GOOD SOURCE THAT AB HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT A CONTRACT FOR 12.5 FOR 5YR

Posted by: AD | August 7, 2007 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Look, Ivan is a GREAT reporter. I've been a journalist for 18 years, and I can separate the chaff from the wheat. Ivan, in my experience, doesn't report stuff that he doesn't have cold. If he hears something rumored, he reports it that way. The Post is lucky to have him, and Wiz fans are lucky to have him. Appreciate what you've got. AD, jf (I suspect you're the same person, and will have another moniker soon), put your cards on the table. If you think Ivan's not reporting straight up, prove it.

Posted by: Keithinator | August 7, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Ad is a complete idiot!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2007 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I consider Ivan the best beat reporter the Post has, and because of him, I (and we) are able to get information on the Wizards on a near daily basis in July and August. This is incredible. Take a look at other papers, in Washington and across the country, and you'll be lucky to find local team coverage more than once or twice a week this time of year.

Thank you Ivan, for your journalistic integrity and for giving me something other than MLB and Training Camp news in August.

Posted by: Ritchie | August 7, 2007 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Taken from the memphis grizzlie message board.....

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zack:
from Verno

[URL=http://chrisvernon.blogspot.com/]http://chrisvernon.blogspot.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]THE DREADED CVERNON.COM EXCLUSIVE: THE PARTICULARS OF THE JUAN CARLOS NAVARRO TRADE[/b]

I have been told that this is how the Navarro deal shakes out...

Memphis recieves J.C. Navarro

Washington will recieve a first round pick from the Grizzlies (contrary to what has been reported, I am told that this is how it will break down)
I will try to make this as simple as I can, but it is a little tricky

'08 if the Grizzlies select 20 or further down, it goes to the Wizards (top 19 protected)
'09 if the Grizzlies select 17 or futher down, it goes to the Wizards (top 16 protected)
'10- '12 the Grizzlies pick is lottery protected
'13 - the pick is top 12 protected and if it has not been given, cash considerations will be given to the Wizards.

I love the way this shakes out for the Grizzlies and it is much more comforting than the reports that it is simply a lottery protected pick that they are giving up, etc.[/QUOTE]sounds great...

and a big, big thanks to Vernon...

and some may wonder why i created a new thread for this...

well, if someone wants to know what we traded for Navarro, reading 14+ pages to find out really sucks...i know, after being gone all weekend, it took me forever to wade through that whole thread to find out we really don't know...

and verno deserves some credit for telling us the details...[/QUOTE]

Posted by: Dre' | August 7, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

LET AB live can he get some rest today

Posted by: DAMN | August 7, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

How did we get into rakin Ivan and Michael over the coals? Did we take a wrong turn or something?

We don't bite the hand that feeds us people. Not sure who the feisty parties are but Ivan nor Michael shouldn't waste one drop of ink nor energy with their comments.

On Blatche - He simply needs a good lawyer. They actually have prostitution court for these type cases. Prob won't be disastrous..just embarrassing.

Question tho...who is this Greg Palmer?
He's always in the midst when trouble occurs? So far several times.

Anyway, sounds like Wiz have good team this yr. Look forward to seeing Song at full potential.

Posted by: Robin | August 7, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the cop mentioned money first so it sounds like entrapment to me too. Other than that, it was a hilarious read. Andre need to get his momma to come live with him cause he sure isn't living right on his own. Thanks for the laughs, LOL.

Posted by: Derek | August 7, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

He should've just gone to a massage parlor or called an escort service, I don't think he's married so what's the big deal anyway? Men need sex and women sell it, he just wanted to cut to the chase of the dinner/dancing and pay less. He must need the money though if he's going to ho's that low on the payscale.

Posted by: James Beavan | August 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

So, what. Police should be stopping terrorist plots not entraping guys looking to get laid.

Posted by: John | August 7, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

He would've signed the contract and gotten all the -"tang " he wanted and more. Weak.

Posted by: RobGreg | August 7, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Im no legal expert but I watch enough tv to know that in cases like this the diff. between just being/doing the propostioning and actually catching a charge is showing INTENT. So when she tells him to 'drive up to this spot' and he abides, that is the key. Same reason on 'Dateline Predators' they have the culprit bring an item, it shows valition and intent. Ha maybe I should be a lawyer...

Posted by: Joe | August 7, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone think prostitution doesn't go on under the watchful eye of the police in DC and most other American cities?

I just keyed in "escort services washington dc" at A9.com and found several sites advertising prostitution, including photos and contact info.

Surely DC cops are at least as intelligent as I and could do the same.

Are they really interested in combating prostitution (not that I'm recommending they do so) or in targeting certain individuals? I'm white, by the way.

Posted by: Roger in CA | August 7, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

sick society about to implode...

Posted by: richard jenkins | August 8, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

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