JCN deadline lifted?

I'm in the process of trying to confirm the report out of Spain that FC Barcelona has lifted Juan Carlos Navarro's trade deadline. Last week, the team said the Wiz had until the end of business tonight to have a deal in place but it would make sense for Barcelona to provide a little more time because JCN has been so anxious about playing in the NBA this season. If it takes a few more days to get deal done, so be it.

As I reported in today's paper and in my last blog, the Wiz are looking for a first round pick in return for JCN's rights and the Memphis Grizzlies are considering whether to make such an offer. I haven't heard anything to indicate that the sides are still discussing a deal that would involve other players (Etan Thomas for Stro Swift perhaps?) but, as we all know, that could change.

One issue to consider in any possible Wiz/Grizz deal is that Memphis has precious little salary cap space remaining after signing Darko earlier this summer. Basically, Navarro would be taking a huge hit AND would have to fork over around $2 million for his buyout with Barcelona to sign with Memphis. According to the Memphis paper, Grizz GM Chris Wallace shot down a report that Pau Gasol was willing to pay for Navarro's buyout.

Either way, there is no question that Navarro, his reps and Barcelona want something done soon. Navarro and his reps want to know where he'll be and Barcelona wants to know whether or not the team will have him next season. The Wiz on the other hand, are in a position to kick back and wait for the right offer. I'll keep you posted.

-Some folks wrote in asking about the the team's decision to not bring back Dir. Player of Development Harvey Grant, who basically worked as another assistant coach on Eddie Jordan's staff. Harvey traveled with the team for road trips and spent a lot of time working with young players like Andray Blatche and Oleksiy Pecherov as well as the team's centers. I know Eddie vouched for keeping Harvey on staff but I'm not really sure why the decision was made to let him go. I can say with some degree of confidence that Harvey's departure had little do with Andray's actions on and off the court. When/if I find more concrete info on the issue, I'll update.

-Not much of an update on Andray so far today. His agent hasn't returned my calls for several days now and I haven't been able to reach Andray either. I have spoken with several players and other folks with the team and the general feeling continues to be amazement/frustration that Dre put himself in such a position in the first place. Still, my gut feeling is that Ernie will sign the kid and then everyone will hope he doesn't have a repeat of what went down the other night.

-Haven't really commented on the schedule but it is interesting to note that the Wiz will play 10 of their first 16 games on the road. Right now, it appears that Eddie is going to have a deep roster so it's not hard to imagine him using that first month to figure out a rotation. The good news is that the fellas will play nine of 13 games at VC in December. My feeling is that training camp and the preseason will be huge for Andray (if he's here), Oleksiy P and the rookies if they want to get long looks from Eddie in that first month or so.

-Count me among those who aren't jumping all over the Boston bandwagon. Don't get me wrong, KG is the man and I know this because I was fortunate to catch him from his rookie year on in Minny but Ray Allen is coming off two ankle procedures and the rotation gets really thin after KG, Sugar Ray and the Truth. The East is going to be better but I still see the Wiz slotting somewhere between the third and fifth seeds if Gilbert, Caron and Antawn stay healthy and the bench gives Eddie more production than last season.


By Ivan Carter |  August 3, 2007; 1:00 PM ET
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1st hahah u dorks

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:33 PM

Thanks for the 2 great updates. After all the Ivan hating posts, I hope people think twice after that great article shedding some deeper light on things about Blatche we did not know.
Keep Andray, Dump Etan.

Posted by: Robert | August 3, 2007 1:35 PM

I know, of course, that there'll be a DC-bias to these posts/responses, but THANK YOU for coming out and giving the Wiz some respect in your East Coast prognostication. ESPN's 'experts' have little to no faith that the team will even make the playoffs. Whu?

Posted by: Eric | August 3, 2007 1:37 PM

hahaha good call anon on making fun of all the dbag's on this site that get excited about posting 1st.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:39 PM

I really hope we get Swift. The Poet hasn't produced and creates internal problems with Haywood. I don't see why management would want to give that fued another chance to flame up. And maybe someone needs to show Blatche a Kwame Brown mix-tape so he realizes that great potential is meaningless without some smarts and discipline.

Posted by: matt | August 3, 2007 1:42 PM

Swift is worthless except for cap space

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:43 PM

Any word on whether the 1st round pick would be lottery protected?

Also, if Etan is included in the deal are we going to be seeing a lot more small ball for the Wiz? Isn't Haywood the only center we have under contract then?

Posted by: denbo | August 3, 2007 1:46 PM

Man I wish they didn't lift the deadline. i want this trade to go down today.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:47 PM

Is there something wrong with being a sports fan? You're reading about the wiz too bro, and you don't even have the class to write in your name. Don't diss your own fans - have a little class and respect.

Posted by: Dave | August 3, 2007 1:47 PM

Thanks again Ivan for keeping us up to the minute!

It's funny because I suggested the Etan/JNC for Swift/Draft pick swap off the bat, and everyone hated it! Just makes sense if we're looking to move Etan because they're salaries match, and Swift doesn't seem to be a big part of their plans.

To those saying Swift has an expiring contract, I believe he's signed to the summer of '09, but it is still a year shorter than Etan. I just think he'd be a good fit on our team and uptempo style. It would be nice to add an athletic shot-blocker to our frontcourt. And he can play PF and would be a nice smallball center off the bench. Both he and Etan played 19.2 min a game last season.

The key though is the 1st round pick. Next draft looks good, and I'd love to have 2 picks in round 1!

Plus keeping Etan now good yield better offers down the line. If we get a month or 2 into the season and Etan is playing well, and another team has an injury at center, interest in him could rise.

And it seems even with Memphis' limited cap space, they seem to be JNC's preference according to his agent.

Posted by: Darnell | August 3, 2007 1:48 PM

Ivan, do you know the seriousness of this crime? Is he looking at serious time if convicted? Or is this something like Sean Taylor's DUI arrest?

Posted by: Bart | August 3, 2007 1:49 PM

Bring back JAHIDI WHITE

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:50 PM

The only person here i have respect for is Ivan.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:53 PM

the rest of you are a bunch of want to be GM's with some of the worst ideas I have ever seen.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:55 PM

Dave you can just zip it and respect my posts

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 1:58 PM

the anonymous flamer returns. greaaaat. Can't wait till kids go back to school.

Posted by: JJ | August 3, 2007 2:02 PM

u are out of luck i work 9-5 son

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 2:04 PM

You guys can't take a little ball busting. I'm just simply making fun of anyone who thinks its cool to post 1st!!! yeah. Are we 5 year old girls here or sports fans??? It seems to me its a bunch of 5 year old girls

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 2:06 PM

Wow this conversation has gotten incredibly pointless.

Any chance Warrick is discussed in the deal?

Posted by: TP | August 3, 2007 2:10 PM

work? i doubt what you do qualifies. All you got is a 'keyboard Maximus' complex. congrats on being an A hole. I pity you.

Posted by: JJ | August 3, 2007 2:12 PM

So Harvey Grant was supposed to be mentoring young Andray, and working with the Wiz centers?

I don't think it's hard to see why he was let go even without taking into account the recent incident with Blatche. The earlier blog noted that Dray's work habits were pretty poor, or maybe inconsistent is a better way to put it. We all know about the inconsistency among the big men.

It stands to reason that they made a decision to go with someone else since Harvey didn't seem to be having much of an impact on the guys he was working with. No?

Posted by: Prophet | August 3, 2007 2:12 PM

I heard that the wiz is interested in signing posey too...however, i disagree with it cause we already have a logjam at guard and forward, and i think swift is an improvement over etan

Posted by: NV | August 3, 2007 2:13 PM

thank you I appreciate it...Must be doing something right b/c I making 6 figures this year.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 2:14 PM

it brings me great joy to piss all of u off so much

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 2:16 PM

"u are out of luck i work 9-5 son"

Shocker.

Posted by: Johnny Boy | August 3, 2007 2:17 PM

most normal humans do work 9-5

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 2:19 PM

Ivan, thanks for all the updates. Blatche probably cost himself a few million as now every team has doubts about giving him a big contract. Hopefully he will learn from this and make some better choices.

Posted by: Allen | August 3, 2007 2:19 PM

Interesting point.

Posted by: Harry Johnson | August 3, 2007 2:20 PM

look, i'm anonymous too! look at me! i need attention!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 2:23 PM

Seems like EJ and EG aren't working so well together. EJ's defensive guru, Berry, doesn't get renewed. Tommy T gets hired, but then quits. Now Harvey gets the boot. EG loves BTH, EJ doesn't.

If I were EJ, I'd want to leave b/c I don't even have control over my own staff. Wes Unseld Jr. is only on the team as an assistant coach b/c his daddy was and is Les BouleS greatest bullet of all time. He'll get the axe onces Leonsis takes over.

Posted by: DC Man88 | August 3, 2007 2:25 PM

Now that there is some doubt on whether we will re-sign Blatche, why not take on JCN on a bloated rookie salary

Posted by: Mont | August 3, 2007 2:38 PM

I'm Super Anonymous Blogger! I really need some attention!

Posted by: Me too! | August 3, 2007 2:41 PM

Outside of salary cap concerns is there any reason Navarro was never considered to play in Washington. It seems that having him on the same court with Arenas, or Stevenson seems like a good combo based on all his skills and celebrity. And honestly we need someone to light a fire off the bench - a sixith man. By December couldn't he be that guy? There are about 3 guards I would be willing to let go for someone who could be Spainish Manu Ginobili or Bobby Jackson (in Sacremento)?

As for Etan. Haywood has a fighting streak with other centers in Chicago and DC (i.e. Kwame). Besides, Etan has heart and determination that got him the starting position last year.

Posted by: J3 | August 3, 2007 2:47 PM

JCN was quoted as saying there are many players on Les BouleS who possess the same skill sets as he does, especially with the resigning of DS, so he said Les BouleS probably don't need any more players like him

Posted by: DC Man88 | August 3, 2007 2:49 PM

"it's not hard to imagine Eddie using that first month to figure out a rotation"

LOL, I think other than the starters, EJ used random number generator to decide who comes in next!

Posted by: Sagaliba | August 3, 2007 2:54 PM

While we overpaid DS and have to wait 2 or 3 three years for Nick Young to develop, we will certainly live to regret not signing JCN. What good will this pick do for us if Gilbert opts out next year?

Posted by: Wizzy | August 3, 2007 2:56 PM

Navarro would have fit in perfectly with

PG - Rod Strickland
SG - Calbert Cheaney
SF - Juwan Howard
PF - Chris Webber
C - Gheorghe Muresan

Doesn't fit with the current group though - ship him.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 3:00 PM

There should absolutely be no 1 month feeling out period for Les BouleS. The core of the team remains intact, and should play fluidly. Opech should not be taking 20 ft. jumpers, but should try to show us that he has some sort of D in that lanky, slouchy body.

If Les BouleS don't start off on a roll, don't be surprised if EG gives EJ the royal boot.

Posted by: DC Man88 | August 3, 2007 3:03 PM

Know what's wrong with this list just above? It would beat the current Wizards team in the playoffs, that's what. Webber and Howard in their prime played very well together, Cheaney was way better than Stevenson, and Strickland, while he mostly sucked in DC had some great years before he got here--no way would Arenas defend him in the post, plus he was a brilliant passer.

As for Muresan--who you would put on him, Haywood or Etan? Booth?

Posted by: KTV | August 3, 2007 3:07 PM

Pradamaster, Journalism 101 doesn't apply to blogs. There's plenty of locker room anecdotes and gossip in Ivan's blogs that are no more or less newsworthy than AJ's exchange with AB. And AB's encounter with the police last October is indeed a news hook. That's not hatin' on Ivan -- I'm a big fan. Just a question addressed to a professional journalist.

Posted by: Prazak | August 3, 2007 3:11 PM

Matt said:

"The Poet hasn't produced and creates internal problems with Haywood."

Given everything we know about Brenda, I would say the opposite is true with respect to creating problems.

It looks like both will be back this season so it will be interesting to see how EJ F ups the rotations.

Posted by: FU Kobe | August 3, 2007 3:12 PM

"EJ used random number generator to decide who comes in next!"
Good call. I have never been able to determine what he's thinking when he subs in and out. There must be something going on in practice that we just aren't privy to. Seems to me Blatche deserved more PT last year. Oh well. Maybe that's why EG has EJ on a short leash. One year deals for your assistants is a strong message.

Posted by: mark | August 3, 2007 3:12 PM

outside of it not being possible? lots of us wanted him here.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 3:16 PM

DCMAN88, You don't want Pech taking jumpers? He may start off in the post but I'm sure he'll get pushed out to the 18-20 foot mark til he gets stronger. That might be the only shot he can get at this point in his career. I think people are forgetting that his is a veteran team and the rotation for the top 6 guys should be set. You're right. The only thing EJ needs to do is put a rotation in concrete and stop trying to match up game to game. Our best 8 are our best 8 and should get consistent minutes regardless of who we're playing unless there's an injury. I'm telling you, he must have Wes Unseld's rotations in his back pocket.

Posted by: mark | August 3, 2007 3:20 PM

well person trying to be me, he won't take it.

Posted by: Monte | August 3, 2007 3:20 PM

why is it that some of you still continue to entertain the idea and make blog requests to keep JCN and take the luxury tax hit when you know it's not in the plans? let it go! now, we might have the opportunity to sign AB at a lesser amt/term. can any of the remaining $ be used on a 1yr tender to arvis or Boothe? being that AB is a restricted FA drafted in the 2nd, i'm thinking if any of his $ is left on the table, it's dead weight and can't be used on others. hopefully, the kid learns from his mistakes and takes life more seriously. i have a soon-to-be 19 yr old who i'm teaching the same thing to. good posts Ivan. the past few have been extra informative. can't wait for October.

Posted by: G$ | August 3, 2007 3:24 PM

How we can keep JCN

Couldn't Juan Carlos Navarro sign a 3 year $6.5 million deal (I took in effect 8% annual increases) starting at the remains of the MLE (MLE $5.3mil minus Stevenson $3.3mil equals $2.0mil) and then pay his former team $1.5 mil or the $2.0 mil and the Wizards would pick up the other $500K (maximum allowed under the current Collective Bargaining Agreement)? Juan Carlos Navarro can live on $500K for the first years knowing he would be getting $2.16 mil in 2008 and $2.32 mil in 2009. I do believe Dominic McGuire contract pays a first year salary of $450K, but I am not sure.

LOL
Maybe Jamison can give him some of his overpaid $16 mil for carry his bags or something.

Any thought on this?

Posted by: B Skillz | August 3, 2007 3:25 PM

Did somebody just say something about resigning Jarvis Hayes?

Okay...sir have you been drinking? May I see your license and registration please?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 3:27 PM

nice ivan i like the fact that you read our comments then you tell us what we want to hear i really hope we get swift. because kg just went to boston zach randolph just went to knicks and it would be good to have swift to block shots and check the kg,dwight howard,shaq.

thanks ivan your next article can you tell us about more about swift. ivan your the best

Posted by: brandon | August 3, 2007 3:30 PM

nice ivan i like the fact that you read our comments then you tell us what we want to hear i really hope we get swift. because kg just went to boston zach randolph just went to knicks and it would be good to have swift to block shots and check the kg,dwight howard,shaq.

thanks ivan your next article can you tell us about more about swift. ivan your the best

Posted by: brandon | August 3, 2007 3:30 PM

nice ivan i like the fact that you read our comments then you tell us what we want to hear i really hope we get swift. because kg just went to boston zach randolph just went to knicks and it would be good to have swift to block shots and check the kg,dwight howard,shaq.

thanks ivan your next article can you tell us about more about swift. ivan your the best

Posted by: brandon | August 3, 2007 3:30 PM

I have much less of a problem with solicitation than I would have for drunk driving. Drunk driving kills innocent people. I still remember when Juwan Howard got off of his drunk driving charge with a slap on the wrist. He's been a jerk in my eyes ever since.

Posted by: Blatche | August 3, 2007 3:30 PM

nice ivan i like the fact that you read our comments then you tell us what we want to hear i really hope we get swift. because kg just went to boston zach randolph just went to knicks and it would be good to have swift to block shots and check the kg,dwight howard,shaq.

thanks ivan your next article can you tell us about more about swift. ivan your the best

Posted by: brandon | August 3, 2007 3:30 PM

According to my calculation, we are @$3.5 mil under the threshold for the luxury tax. We have 11 players signed (CBA says you must have at least 13, 12 active and 1 inactive).

Say we sign Aaron Miles to $427K (rookie minumum), Blatche to a first year salary of $1.0M (giving his recent run in with the law, he should accept whatever he can get now) and then Navarro to a first year salary of $2.0M (using the rest if the MLE).

This could work. Any thoughts?

But seriously, without Blatche taking $1.0M, there is no way to get Navarro on this years squad.

Posted by: B Skillz | August 3, 2007 3:32 PM

skilz, he owes 3 million Euros, not dollars. Remaining portion of the MLE is 1.55 or so because DS averages out to 3.75M. he'd basically spend the prime years of his life breaking even.

Could we give that to him? sure. could we make him accept it? no.

Posted by: Monte | August 3, 2007 3:36 PM

it isn't going to happen
let it go

Posted by: g | August 3, 2007 3:41 PM

Everyone is so hell bent on getting rid of Etan and Brendan - insisting that they are defensive wimps and offensive wussies but I disagree. The way this team is structured I think we need a dominating post presence to be effective. If we run an up tempo style of game it will force opponents to adjust thus making their big men a liability so what's all the fuss about?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 3:44 PM

"DCMAN88, You don't want Pech taking jumpers? He may start off in the post but I'm sure he'll get pushed out to the 18-20 foot mark til he gets stronger. That might be the only shot he can get at this point in his career. I think people are forgetting that his is a veteran team and the rotation for the top 6 guys should be set. You're right. The only thing EJ needs to do is put a rotation in concrete and stop trying to match up game to game. Our best 8 are our best 8 and should get consistent minutes regardless of who we're playing unless there's an injury. I'm telling you, he must have Wes Unseld's rotations in his back pocket.

Posted by: mark | August 3, 2007 03:20 PM "

Okay, let's say Opech is in the starting lineup with Gilby, CBut, and AJ, and you want Opech to be shooting 18-20 ft. jumpers instead of getting inside and working his post game, getting OR, or taking short J's? Les BouleS for sure don't need any more big men or little men looking for their shots.

Posted by: DC Man88 | August 3, 2007 3:45 PM

can you please stop referring to the wiz as "Les BouleS" -- it's really annoying.

Posted by: gtown | August 3, 2007 3:50 PM

Opek or whatever his name is = undersized and overrated

McGuire = energetic but inexperienced

Young = young

Wizards suck

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 3:53 PM

Thanks Ivan for the two updates. If push comes to shove they should just offer Navarro a one or two year deal, even if that puts us over the luxury threshold. He'll be a great player to come off the bench and the added competition will probably only make DS better.

Most importantly, I predict there will DEFINITELY be some injuries this season that will make teams salivate to trade for Navarro. Should a Dwayne Wade, etc.. get seriously injured in the middle of the season all of a sudden handing over a 1st round draft pick and some extra talent seems more plausible.

The key, I think, is not to lose this great talent back to Barcelona - that would be VERY shortsighted. Sign him and just wait for the season to start and trade offers to start coming in.

Posted by: DCW | August 3, 2007 4:01 PM

JCN's euro team has shown they have no credibility. Les BouleS should offer his euro team 1 mil, take it or leave it, for his rights. But, if Les BouleS can send JCN to another team and get rid of one of our 2 disgruntled centers, then Les BouleS should do it, but only if they get a draft pick and a player with some upside in return.

Posted by: DC Man88 | August 3, 2007 4:12 PM

If the Wiz want true depth they should seriously consider a guy like Navarro. Not only will he be a major spark off the bench (extremely valuable, and something we've been without for years), he is insurance in the event Gil, Stevenson, Jamison, or Caron get injured this year.

That way if we lose one of our big three (like we did on and off last year) the team doesn't have to give up 70% of the following 10 games until that guy gets better. That kind of insurance is invaluable. I wish EG would reconsider. Surely he learned something from our injury plagued second half and playoff series of last season: we have no real depth.

Posted by: DCW | August 3, 2007 4:17 PM

Are there any calls coming in from the Lakers? Now that KG is traded and signed long term in Boston, they still need some pieces. The kid Turiaf would be a nice fit for the Wiz. He's not really a true 5 but who in the East really has one other than NY, Cleveland and Miami. The skill players in the East who rebound and score are at the 4 where we are most deficient defensively. Maybe LA would take a run at JCN and take on Etan out there to back up Mihm and Kwame??? And yes, arvis off the bench is still a viable option.

Posted by: G$ | August 3, 2007 4:28 PM

Monte, I was only using information from http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm and http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm to come up with my scenarios. Maybe they are wrong. :-)

Posted by: B Skillz | August 3, 2007 4:33 PM

DCW, you haven't been paying attention have you?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 4:43 PM

Ivan, I completely agree with you regarding your forecast for the Wiz this season along with resisting a jump onto Celts bandwagon. I can hardly think of anyone on their team beyond KG, Ray, and Pierce. The Celts gave up the farm to get KG leaving the bench almost non-existent. If you think the Wiz Big 3 get extended minutes, wait till we talley the minutes for the Celts Big 3. They have no bench so by default KG and his 2 Robins are going to nearly see max minutes. Their ages are all on the wrong side of 30 so the chances of them having physical breakdowns can't be ignored.

Posted by: low | August 3, 2007 4:51 PM

skilz, DS's average counts towards the MLE, not just next year's salary number. Thus the 3.75 average leaving 1.55ish. Even using the 1.8 BAE, its not enough. he'd still basically be playing for nothing after paying the 1M euro per year buyout.

lots of folks have run the numbers for at least a month, they keep coming out the same way. Its not happening.

Posted by: Monte | August 3, 2007 4:55 PM

Prazak, this is totally a discussion for another place, but my understanding is that it's not so clear and dry that blog entries don't need a viable news peg, especially those from a print media company.

Why must there be such a huge difference? Methinks that in the future, the same journalistic standards will apply to blogs as well, or at least similar standards. I know personally that I wouldn't discuss needless gossip on Bullets Forever unless there was a viable news peg.

Posted by: Pradamaster | August 3, 2007 5:01 PM

Wizzy wrote:
"While we overpaid DS and have to wait 2 or 3 three years for Nick Young to develop, we will certainly live to regret not signing JCN. What good will this pick do for us if Gilbert opts out next year?"

If Gilbert opts out, blow up the team; start over. That most definitely includes EJ. That's not a scenario, it's a disaster. Like it or not, he's the franchise. There's no Plan B if he's leaves. Just back to the drawing board.

Posted by: reispace | August 3, 2007 5:36 PM

Ummm Opec...6'11/7'0 = undersized???? I mean he doesn't have bulk yet but he is just a rookie. Young...yes he is young...being a rookie and all... And Mcguire may be inexperienced (AS IN ALL ROOKIES) but hey he can potentially give us minutes cuz he can rebound and play defense.

These are ALL ROOKIES who aren't projected to start at all. So how, because of our rookies do we suck? What a dumbaRse comment.

Posted by: terpin it | August 3, 2007 11:17 PM

wasn't DCman just a week ago saying we should move Navarro as soon as possible and accept a 2nd rounder? Now this deal isn't good enough. A lottery protected pick is what Navarro is worth.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 11:31 PM

Awvee Storey signed with Milwaukee ...

The Wizards developmental league affiliate, the Dakota Wizards, won the developmental league championship. Who knew? They don't have any players from the NBA Wizards by the way ...

So how are we going to get rid of Etan and Brendan and who are we going to sign to play center?????????????????

Posted by: rb | August 9, 2007 12:35 PM

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