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Daniels out 2-4 weeks

As I reported in Saturday's paper, the Wizards are expected to announce that guard Antonio Daniels is expected to miss 2-4 weeks with a sprained right MCL, an injury he suffered in Thursday's win at Miami.

The injury leaves the team with nine healthy players including Darius Songaila, who has a sore ankle, and Andray Blatche, who has a sore foot. Both Songaila and Blatche are expected to be able to play Saturday night against Sacramento. My best guess is that Roger Mason Jr. will start for Daniels and rookie Nick Young will see heavy minutes as well.

No word yet as to Ernie Grunfeld's plans for the roster. As has been reported extensively, the team is right up against the luxury tax threshold and adding a player would require the team to shell out a dollar-for-dollar tax. After the season, teams that stay under divvy that money up. I'm told that the amount split between teams that stay under is between $2-3 million.

I'll have more info on Saturday.

By Ivan Carter  |  December 15, 2007; 2:47 AM ET
 
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Comments

My prediction has come true. AD is out b/c he's worn down.

Now, EG's back is against the wall even more. Will he try to get by with the current roster, or will he sign a player or make a trade to shore up the PG spot. Making a trade sounds like the best route.

Smush Parker anyone?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 3:21 AM | Report abuse

Being worn down and spraining an MCL are two different things.

Way to cheer an injury. Prick.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 15, 2007 3:27 AM | Report abuse

"Being worn down and spraining an MCL are two different things.

Way to cheer an injury. Prick.

Posted by: | December 15, 2007 03:27 AM "


Gee, I guess athaletes getting overextended doesn't increase their risk of injury, especially older ones. Not in your bizzarro world.

I'm not cheering an injury, you stinky c*nt, I'm cheering because Les BouleS will show if they want to be contenders or pretenders.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Well, DCMan, I think you are right.

Abe and Ernie better have a real hard think on this one.

But whatever the decision (wait it out until New Year's and maybe sign someone to a ten-day, blow the luxury cap and sign someone out of Europe... Boykins is not the answer, Steve Francis looks lost on the court in Houston and Smush Parker is poison..., or just stand pat and pray that the resiliance this team has shown will continue), I am pretty confident that management will not be taking it lightly.

Sacto now presents a serious, immediate challenge. Benno Udrih has been a fantastic pickup for them at point guard since Mike Bibby went down, so the pressure is really going to be on Mason and Stevenson to control him.

Nor can we consider slippling Butler to the 2-guard to free up much of Stevenson's time to back-up Mason at the point against the Kings, as Butler is the only Wizard who matches up well at the 3 against Ron Artest. This should mean that Nick Young is going to get a major opportunity to play.

This is a good test for Eddie Jordan and the coaching staff here! (Actually if Eddie were about 20 years younger, he could suit himself up, he was a very good backup point guard for LA back in the day...)

And get well fast AD, you are a heckuva player.

Posted by: khrabb | December 15, 2007 4:18 AM | Report abuse

"Nor can we consider slippling Butler to the 2-guard to free up much of Stevenson's time to back-up Mason at the point against the Kings, as Butler is the only Wizard who matches up well at the 3 against Ron Artest.

Posted by: khrabb | December 15, 2007 04:18 AM "

This is going to be a heckuva matchup!!!! CBut is not going to take any BS from Artest.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 4:25 AM | Report abuse

DC Man, does the 88 indicate the year you were born or your age? Youthful innocence or senility are the only cases you could plead for calling a sprained MCL a case of a player being "worn down." We're, what, 22 games into the year? Jeebus. Let Mason play the point, hope the injury that Antonio apparently played on last night keeps him down to the shorter end of that 2-4 week scale, and hope the team stays near .500.

The lack of perspective here bothers me greatly. There are too many readers who don't appreciate a team that is fun to watch, plays well together, and doesn't have any real legal trouble. It doesn't come along every day. Adding a player to that mix could be very dangerous, especially this late in the season. If it's not their year, it's not their year.

Posted by: Jim | December 15, 2007 4:55 AM | Report abuse

Ivan I think your right that Mason and Young will see heavier minutes than they have been seeing (especially Young whose mins were down last few games). There are no other choices so you have to be right. But I dont know if you're definately right that Mason will start. If Young comes in with the second unit, its the whole problem that EJ has been talking about. He said he doesnt like Young playing without the veterans. So I think he starts Young instead of Mason if he was serious when he said what he said in the past. That way Young is out there with the vets and any rookie mistakes will be easier to hide. The two guards can share ballhandling sense I don't think that Nick is really a point guard or can handle the ball. Then Mason comes in to back up either position and plays heavy minutes like you said.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 15, 2007 5:20 AM | Report abuse

DC Man or wanna be man... please watch your language... your insipid comments (look it up in the dictionary if you need to) are not welcome here... this is a discussion about sports not about your misogynistic notions of what it is to be right

I'm not cheering an injury, you stinky c*nt, I'm cheering because Les BouleS will show if they want to be contenders or pretenders.

Posted by: LK | December 15, 2007 7:11 AM | Report abuse

I think starting Nick Young against Sacto is an interesting idea, provided you are convinced that (a) he is going to shoot well after basically two consecutive DNPs, and (b) Stevenson can play an acceptable point guard against Udrih, who has been very tough this year.

I believe that Mason will match up better against Udrih to start, and that Mason and Stevenson would be a safer starting guard combination for that reason.

Either way, Young, Stevenson and Mason are going to have to basically split 96 minutes between them for the next several games... with the amount of time each plays a function of their productivity and matchups. Butler gets into the mix at 2-guard in some situations but not tonight, I suspect.

As Butler will have a big job to do against Artest, the big scoring burden tonight falls on AJ, and we will need truly dominant efforts from Heywood and Blatche, as they have the best matchups to exploit.

This one will be another nice coaching test for Eddie, and I think he will pass with flying colors.

Posted by: khrabb | December 15, 2007 7:58 AM | Report abuse

What happened to the point guards from summer league? are they worth signing? if they have a contract in Europe, can they be signed?

Posted by: CW | December 15, 2007 8:04 AM | Report abuse

What about giving Lil Penny a shot? I know Miami cut him, but I don't think we can go 4 weeks with two guards? When can you start signing people to 10 days? This sucks, the team just can't get a break on injurys.

Posted by: Section101 | December 15, 2007 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Wow what a blow. Spirits in the locker room had to be high after beating Miami. Well, some of us thought we were walking on thin ice these past few weeks. We asked for a back up point guard and some said we were fine. Well this is what we feared would happen. We should expect to see a lot of pressing defense until we prove we can beat the press. I am not sure we can and so that is why when Gil went down I wondered if using shooting guards at the point is the answer. on ball defense of point guards is now also a major concern. We need to find someone to solve those 2 issues: defense and breaking the press. Both Mason, Stephenson have proven that they can run the offense somewhat adequately and when they are hot they keep the defense honest with their jumpers. EJ will need to run with the hot hand. Young could get more time also.

Posted by: BmoreRev | December 15, 2007 8:28 AM | Report abuse

CURSE O' LES BOULEZ...
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CURSE O' LES BOULEZ...
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CURSE O' LES BOULEZ...
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Posted by: reispace | December 15, 2007 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, had to get that out of my system.

Even with the easier Dec schedule, we'll be lucky to go .500 while Daniels is out (I will be most pleased to eat my words if they prove me wrong.)

We're back to the same argument of whether management spends $5M on a guy that may not make a large impact. The only difference now is that management needs to consider its responsibility to the fans. An extended inability to conduct practice is a breach of contract with the fans.

Posted by: reispace | December 15, 2007 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Donnell Taylor anyone?

Posted by: bridgewater | December 15, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Well, there goes the season :(

Posted by: Lisa | December 15, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Big man back.....

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!

Abe is cheap and by the 50th game the seats will be empty....

AJ will bolt from DC next summer....

Posted by: big man | December 15, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Another option would be to start D. McGuire and simply play CB at the 2. On defense you could have either one guard Artest or just Butler. In this scenario Stevenson or Mason may starts at the point.

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Lemme get this straight, DCMan88 - AD is averaging only 30 minutes a game so far, in only 22 games, and we're running him into the ground???

This is why his knee got injured?? What are ya lookin for - 17 minutes a game by each of the starters? This is too silly for words - the guy got injured. This is really going to hurt us. But it isn't due to inordinate playing time.

Posted by: sfam | December 15, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

DC00,

I think we can help you here. Tell us how Gil jilted you into the downfall that has consumed your life. Sharing helps! Look into a mirror and repeat: "I am good enought, strong enough, and doggone it Gil loves me."

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

"The lack of perspective here bothers me greatly. There are too many readers who don't appreciate a team that is fun to watch, plays well together, and doesn't have any real legal trouble. It doesn't come along every day. Adding a player to that mix could be very dangerous, especially this late in the season. If it's not their year, it's not their year.

Posted by: Jim | December 15, 2007 04:55 AM "

Where in the world have you been?

Does winning championships matter to you, or do you treat your local sports franchise like a trip to the zoo to laugh and amuse yourself at the animals?

Real legal trouble? How sad is that? What's the difference between real and unreal legal trouble? Did AB get arrested this past summer? Did Gilby get arrested in Miami and also was about to get served with legal papers while Les BouleS were aiding him in hiding?

Adding a player is not by choice, it's by necessity. Les BouleS are down to 7 players who aren't hurt right now, with DSong having ankle issues and AD having knee issues.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

"DC Man or wanna be man... please watch your language... your insipid comments (look it up in the dictionary if you need to) are not welcome here... this is a discussion about sports not about your misogynistic notions of what it is to be right

Posted by: LK | December 15, 2007 07:11 AM "

Whatever. Does yours stink too?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Here's an honest question:

Since you said that AFTER the season, the team that stay below the cap get to divvy up the spoils, can the Wizards sign a player to a short term contract that expires before the end of the season and still get the luxury tax money at the end of the year?

Like something about 2 consecutive 15-day contracts? Daniels is out 2-4 weeks, not 2-4 months, so they really only need to bite the bullet for so long.

Posted by: James | December 15, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Even before the season start, I have stressed the importance of a 3rd string PG for a team that has a starting PG coming off sugery and a backup though capable, his body has taken a lot of beating during 11 yrs in the NBA.

3rd string PG is like a spare tire, you hope you never need to use it, but you got to have it! Unfortunately, we need it NOW!

AD out for 2-4 weeks, I think Wizards has to sign a PG now, even if that means they get ove the luxury tax. And no, not Donnell Taylor, we need a true PG. Taylor simply cannot run the offense, he is worse than Mason in the PG role.

Posted by: Sagaliba | December 15, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Might be time to explore what we could get in trade for Songaila... Rafer Alston?

Posted by: sashae | December 15, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"What happened to the point guards from summer league? are they worth signing? if they have a contract in Europe, can they be signed?

Posted by: CW | December 15, 2007 08:04 AM "

Les BouleS gambled that they don't need these guys, and other teams picked them up already. Given that, Les BouleS are too close to the cap to do anything b/c Abe doesn't want to jeopardize that salary cap bonus for his team.

To Les BouleS, money is more important than winning or fielding a team that's not undermanned.


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"On a larger scale, Jordan wants to win now. Like any coach who signed a two-year extension with a team option for the third year last summer, the continuity line gets old.

"But I understand Mr. Pollin's standpoint," Jordan said. "We want to stay within a certain budget for the Washington Wizards. We're not going to be like four or five or six other teams that can do anything it takes to win. Those are decisions we made within the organization. It doesn't bother me. There are times when you say, 'How come we can't get this guy?' But then you say, 'These are the parameters the organization has set.' ""

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021602210.html

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"Lemme get this straight, DCMan88 - AD is averaging only 30 minutes a game so far, in only 22 games, and we're running him into the ground???

This is why his knee got injured?? What are ya lookin for - 17 minutes a game by each of the starters? This is too silly for words - the guy got injured. This is really going to hurt us. But it isn't due to inordinate playing time.

Posted by: sfam | December 15, 2007 09:50 AM "

AD is 34 and there's no other point guard on the team. AD is the backup point guard, who should be averaging about 20-25 min/game. He shouldn't be playing starter minutes!!!!!

If you have a 15 year old honda accord and continue to drive it 2 hours round trip to work every day, it's going to break down on you sooner or later. A 15 year old honda is different from a 5 year old honda.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"DC00,

I think we can help you here. Tell us how Gil jilted you into the downfall that has consumed your life. Sharing helps! Look into a mirror and repeat: "I am good enought, strong enough, and doggone it Gil loves me."

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 09:50 AM "

Cheezy Skeezy,

Is that the technique that your mom used to get herself off crack and a life of prostitution that bore you?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Ouch. This one is going to leave a mark.

Daniels was playing some fantastic ball for us and it is hard to imagine we don't slip a little now. That said, Mason has really been stepping up of late and is probably in a good mental state to accept this challenge. God forbid anythihg happens to Mason or DS...even a common cold could cost us a few games now.

No worries about Nick being ready, he was born ready and will come in and fill it up. Yes, there will be some rookie mistakes but his upside far exceeds. As long as he is not asked to run the offense.

Abe has made his choice and I am not sure what it would take to move him at this point. What is the league minimum for dressed players? Maybe if we are in jeopardy of having to concede games due to insufficient number of players he will think about it? If it was a home game of course. Obvisous sarcasm but this is now a pretty extreme situation.

At what point does his stubborness begin to affect the moral of the players? They are doing their part, can we honestly say Abe is doing his?

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | December 15, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Les BouleS, with 7 healthy players, will be screwed if this team ever plays an OT game and has a couple of players foul out. Not only could they forfeit, but the player's legs would be dead!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

What is the mandated league minimum number of players that must be suited up to play - 8? Must they all be able to play or could Gil with his crutches be counted and just not play?
What is the first day that players can be signed to 10 day contracts?
Occasionally a player will accept a lower salary to play on a winner. Would it be legal for one or more of the highly paid to agree to a one time pay cut to buy a player for the rest of the season? It would cost him (them) less than it would cost Abe, since he would pay the salary AND lose the kick back from the luxury tax.

Posted by: lrmc623 | December 15, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

AD is 34 and there's no other point guard on the team. AD is the backup point guard, who should be averaging about 20-25 min/game. He shouldn't be playing starter minutes!!!!!

If you have a 15 year old honda accord and continue to drive it 2 hours round trip to work every day, it's going to break down on you sooner or later. A 15 year old honda is different from a 5 year old honda.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 10:03 AM

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Interesting analogy, not accurate or makes any valid points, but interesting.

Now back to these hurt feelings, since your basketball musings have been, well; trashed. Tell us when you new your love for Gil was real. When did he cause you pain? How did it occur? If you have family issues that are the basis for this one-it love affair, please share. Let's get this all out so that we can stay on basketball-related topic as opposed to the smelly body parts that you refer to from time to time. Btw, be sure to include any BO issues in your response...these might be linked to your feeling so of selfworth.

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Is that the technique that your mom used to get herself off crack and a life of prostitution that bore you?

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 10:05 AM

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Now I know it is easy to got directly to yor sterotypes such as crack and prostitution... However, focus on the core you. Define your urging for Gilbert. What are they really? A cry for help? A cry? Do not back away, take the journey, so that you can leave this obsession behind. Gilbert, does not love you, he does not know you although you may have yelled for his love from the nose bleed seats. You will survive, we are here for you. SHARE!

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

OK, how about Billy Thomas, if they decide to bite the bullet on the lux tax payouts.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/index.jsp?player=billy_thomas

He's got the zize that EJ likes, he's played in the Wizards system, and the coaches and players all like him so there wouldn't be any chemistry issues.

Posted by: quizzical | December 15, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Hot damn!

Whatever happened to Billy Thomas? I remember him lighting it up from the three a couple years back...

Posted by: Drexer | December 15, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

If they can live with a 5-10 pg, there is Andre Barrett

http://www.nba.com/dleague/bakersfield/barrett_071201.html

Posted by: quizzical | December 15, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards are going to have to deal with teams pressing them now that we are looking at Mason/Stevenson/Young trying to bring the ball up the floor. The damn curse lives!

Posted by: George Templeton | December 15, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

billy thomas as a pg? his best position is sg and he wasn't even that good - maybe on par with stevenson on his worst day. he has no pg skills whatsoever.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 15, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I think we all could see this one coming. Too big a risk to have only one PG on the roster.

The Wizards can add someone on a 10 day contract without going over the luxury tax, correct? Any chance Donell Taylor can be signed, or is he in Europe?

Posted by: Sean | December 15, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

No, is your dick as small as your mind?

"DC Man or wanna be man... please watch your language... your insipid comments (look it up in the dictionary if you need to) are not welcome here... this is a discussion about sports not about your misogynistic notions of what it is to be right

Posted by: LK | December 15, 2007 07:11 AM "

Whatever. Does yours stink too?

Posted by: LK | December 15, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

This team keeps doing things I didn't think they could do. So I'm finally a believer. I think DS, RM, and NY can handle the guard duties, with CB playing some spot minutes at the 2. It's not ideal, but these guys keep outperforming expectations.

The problem is if one more guy gets injured. At some point Abe is going to have to stop dreaming about that luxury tax money coming back and make a move.

Posted by: Mitch | December 15, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't say Billy Thomas has no pg skills whatsoever, as his game logs show some games when he had a lot of assists.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/gamelogs.jsp?player=billy_thomas
And he fits the mold that the Wizards are looking for at backup pg -- good height, ability to hit the 3. Is he worth the money the team would have to forego when it incurs the lux tax? No. However, they may have no choice now, and he does have the advantage of having played for the Wizards before.

Posted by: Quizzical | December 15, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I would be surprised if Nick Young starts tonight.

I think the most predictable thing EJ will do is start Mason and DS, although Young should get a lot of minutes. CB may get some time at guard as well.

Posted by: Tim | December 15, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

So glad we got rid of Steve Blake and Juan Dixon. Yeah, we didn't need them.

Posted by: Barno | December 15, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I was going to post yesterday that the biggest achilles heal the Wiz have is lack of depth at PG, even more so than getting thin on the front line.

We'll see how this pans out.

Posted by: Tim | December 15, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The problem with the Wizards remains Abe. He does a great job in the community with charity and makes sure that it gets noticed through the game commentators but it is stupid that the Wizards only have 8 healthy players at this time of year. They started with 13 when most had 15 under contract. That included Thomas, then Arenas gets hurt, then Pech, Songalia is hurt and now AD. Abe is cheap and a horrible owner. The Wizards do not have a point guard on the active roster. In addition, they only have two real big men in Haywood and Blatche. What they do have is guys like Jamison, Butler who are very talented and playing with great heart. In addition Brendan is playing better than ever. To bad Abe is clueless as it will fall apart. AD was important.

Posted by: Mike | December 15, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Has the injury exception for Etan expired? It would seem picking up a Mike Wilks or other journeyman pg known for their professionalism would make sense at this juncture. Someone to help immediately and then later when AD fights through the next two months knee soreness. Someone who would remain a positive influence even if they rack up DNPs when Gil returns or didn't make the playoff roster later in the year. There are no bigs of any quality available for the injury exception around a pro-rata $3Mil, but plenty of guards. Talking about a band-aid, not an upgrade...Wilks did a great job in this kind of role for the T-wolves a few seasons back, but there are others.

Posted by: Pauly B. | December 15, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

So glad we got rid of Steve Blake and Juan Dixon. Yeah, we didn't need them.

Posted by: Barno
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Stop bringing up Dixon and Blake! We didn't get rid of them. They want to be "starters," that's why they left. Get the fact straight!

Posted by: Sagaliba | December 15, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of former Wizards (a weak segway, I know), Yahoo box scores now carry the +/- for each player. In last night's Cleveland game, Larry was a -18. Even worse, the much-discussed AV was a -23. Hey, for that kind of +/-, I offer my own services for half the money.

Posted by: Mitch | December 15, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea of Nick Young getting more burn, I know he's looked frustrated sitting on the bench lately. But I would also like to see the Wizards use this opportunity to get Dominic McGuire involved at SF, by bumping Stevenson &/or Mason (or Young?) up to PG and playing Caron at SG, or whatever. McGuire is a very talented young player, and I'd like to see them give him an opportunity to shine.

Posted by: satch | December 15, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Anybody that cheers an injury is exactly what LK and Skeef and others have called him. This forum is supposed to be for Wizards fans not people who just want to be right about a prediction any idiot could have made. AD himself said last year that he can't play starter minutes for a full season any more. You didn't have to be Nostradamus to figure that the likelihood of him getting hurt was high his age and with the way he plays recklessly.
As for getting another player, anything we do is gonna cost Abe, so it's not likely. I think we'll try to ride it out for 2-4 weeks and hope no one else gets hurt. I can't see Abe giving up the tax booty that he'd get to share with other teams under the cap.

Posted by: mark | December 15, 2007 1:36 PM | Report abuse

As long as no one else gets hurt, we'll be fine. Daniels is a good facilitator but Mason is a bigger long range threat and opens up the floor with his 3 point shooting. No dropoff on offense because a lot of what we do is individual one on one anyway. As or D, Mason has improved dramatically and will be able to man the position til AD gets back. We should see a variety of traps and presses coming and we'll need CB, DS and AB to help with the ball handling, but we should be able to adjust. DS will probably play the point now with or Mason starting. I don't see a huge dropoff at all. We're replacing a veteran with a veteran.

Posted by: mark | December 15, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

It is beyond imagination, that in this age of sports and big money, that an owner would allow this type of exposure to his team.
The players are expensive commodities, and to pinch dollars at the expense of additional injury exposure to your valuable players is unpardonable.
I have not seen a reduction in ticket prices, while fielding an undermanned team.
It is way past time for the Pollin family to relinquish ownership of the Wizards, and allow the development of a championship organization and personnel that will achieve the dream of Abe, another championship.
This will never occurr with this Scrooge approach to financial management.
That is where the curse of Les Boulez resides.

Posted by: mricklen | December 15, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

AD is hurt???
Surprized?
He spends more time hitting the floor than any other player in the NBA.
It's amazing that he lasted this long.
What ever happened to the PG that we had in the Summer league??
I think he signed with the Heat but they released him before
the season start.

Posted by: VB Hoop Fan | December 15, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only Wizards fan who doesn't want them to hit the luxury tax? Abe is a fantastic citizen who does a lot of work for the community. I love the Wizards and want their season to go well, but I'd rather Abe get an extra 2-3 million, most or some of which (I hope) will eventually make its way to charity, then spend it on some random player who might not really help the team in the long run anyway.

Lets put it this way, even without AD for 2-3 weeks the Wiz should have enough to be in the playoff hunt.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 15, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to the PG that we had in the Summer league??
I think he signed with the Heat but they released him before
the season start.


Posted by: VB Hoop Fan | December 15, 2007 02:24 PM



I think you're referring to Brian Chase. He's playing in the D-League - and as such, is available to be signed.

Currently averaging 14 ppg and 4.0 assists.

Posted by: Rook | December 15, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

By the way VB Hoop Fan, if the Wizards sign ANYONE, I think it will be Brian Chase.

He knows the offense from his Summer League play. He's an OK on-ball defender; and he can bring the ball up under pressure. He only lacks a consistent 3-point shot; otherwise I think he would have stuck with Miami.

Posted by: Rook | December 15, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Looks like a good time to be careful about what you wish for. If you did have a Gilbert problem (and I'm not talking about the butt nut here) that got smartly solved, didn't it? Same for an Etan problem, etc. You think Pollin's a Scrooge? I'm sure Marketing Genius Leonsis will do much better when all his attention moves from the NHL to the NBA. (You do remember those all those ridiculous AOL CDs, don't you?) I'm also certain that Ready Teddy will never, ever, consider moving the team, as I'm sure you are . . .

Posted by: DocRH | December 15, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

How many 10 day contracts can you sign before a contract has to be signed?
Is it 10 day or 10 game?
How does it effect the cap?

Posted by: VB Hoop Fan | December 15, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz are going to have to suck it up for two weeks. They are not going to make a move until Jan 01. And then it will be for a 10-day contract guy. They will basically audition different 10-day guys until they find one they like and then will sign him for the rest of the season.

They will be very light tonight, as AB is hurt, his foot needs a week of rest...his #s were ok last night but his play stank. DSong needs another couple of nights off too.

So they are down to six healthy bodies for tonight and probably the next game.

Posted by: oddjob | December 15, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Will everyone stop hyperventilating about this? How about if we see at least one game before we declare AD irreplaceable, presses unbreakable, and Abe Pollin cheap. Yes, AD has been really solid lately -- he's one of the best back-up PGs in the league, and we'll miss him badly the next weeks. But the Wiz run an offense that doesn't rely on a traditional point, and presses can be beaten by team passing, not simply by one good ball-handler.

As for Abe Pollin, why don't you all see how it goes before shooting your mouths off about a man who doesn't want to give up $3m to sign a Billy Hunter of Donnell Taylor to two 10-day contracts.

And DCMan, what are you, a wannabee sports trainer? Did you speak with or examine AD in the locker room before your diagnosis that too much playing time resulted in his sprained ACL? 30 mins a game 22 games into the season is not heavy minutes, even for a 34-year-old. Plenty of old guys logging much heavier minutes and not getting injured, plenty of younger guys logging much ligher minutes that are getting injured.

Too many people b*tch about stuff they know next to nothing about.

Posted by: Prazak | December 15, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty certain a 10-day contract lasts for 10 calendar days or a certain number of games. (Three or four is my guess.) I'm certain that two 10-day callups are the max, after which any further work means a contract for the rest of the season.

Posted by: DocRH | December 15, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

About 2 weeks ago, I proposed that we cut Roger Mason and now he is our starting point guard. Where's Chris Whitney at?

Posted by: ATLwizFAN | December 15, 2007 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Will everyone stop hyperventilating about this? How about if we see at least one game before we declare AD irreplaceable, presses unbreakable, and Abe Pollin cheap. Yes, AD has been really solid lately -- he's one of the best back-up PGs in the league, and we'll miss him badly the next weeks. But the Wiz run an offense that doesn't rely on a traditional point, and presses can be beaten by team passing, not simply by one good ball-handler.

As for Abe Pollin, why don't you all see how it goes before shooting your mouths off about a man who doesn't want to give up $3m to sign a Billy Hunter of Donnell Taylor to two 10-day contracts.

And DCMan, what are you, a wannabee sports trainer? Did you speak with or examine AD in the locker room before your diagnosis that too much playing time resulted in his sprained ACL? 30 mins a game 22 games into the season is not heavy minutes, even for a 34-year-old. Plenty of old guys logging much heavier minutes and not getting injured, plenty of younger guys logging much ligher minutes that are getting injured.

Too many people b*tch about stuff they know next to nothing about.

Posted by: Prazak | December 15, 2007 03:22 PM

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Amen

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

F*ck it. I'm getting off my fat *ss and going to the game tonight...they may need me.

Posted by: oddjob | December 15, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Prazak I'm with you on everything except your defense of Abe Pollin. It is well-settled that Abe Pollin is cheap regardless of whether the Wiz sign anyone. No need to wait to declare that. Given the team's current injuries it is necessary to sign another player, if only to have enough bodies for practice.

Posted by: LH | December 15, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Well I hope this means there is going to be more PT for DMac. Because they'll need to rest Jamison and Butler. But to all those who think that we should sign a guy let's think about this:
1. We push through these 2-4 weeks and we get Ad back the rotation goes back to normal.
2. We stay under the lux. tax threshold and we are able to gain 2-3 mil. for extra cash in re-sign/free agency. Oh and by the way this off-season coming is could be one of the strongest FA classes in recent times.
3. Brendan Haywood is playing his best basketball ever this year. Sounds like prime-time to trade him before he goes soft again and unload some of his contract on someone else, Thus making more room for the Wiz.(J. O'Neal anyone?)

Posted by: NickB | December 15, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's "well-settled" that Abe Pollin's seen enough to know that money doesn't solve every issue, and certainly not many fan issues. Remember the Juwan Howard debacle? Remember the -- dare I say it? -- Michael Jordan fiasco?

Posted by: DocRH | December 15, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

"Too many people b*tch about stuff they know next to nothing about.

Posted by: Prazak | December 15, 2007 03:22 PM "

Same applies to you.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

"Am I the only Wizards fan who doesn't want them to hit the luxury tax? Abe is a fantastic citizen who does a lot of work for the community. I love the Wizards and want their season to go well, but I'd rather Abe get an extra 2-3 million, most or some of which (I hope) will eventually make its way to charity, then spend it on some random player who might not really help the team in the long run anyway.

Lets put it this way, even without AD for 2-3 weeks the Wiz should have enough to be in the playoff hunt.

Posted by: | December 15, 2007 02:32 PM "

Why would anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in the team care about going over the luxury cap if it can help the team?

The sad thing is that EG hasn't brought anyone into VC to work them out leading up to this AD injury. Thus, it's not like they evaluated people and made a decision not to bring someone in because they couldn't determine anyone could help them. Instead, they just flat refused to work out anyone for purely financial reasons. Now, they are scrambling. That's sad!

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"AD is hurt???
Surprized?
He spends more time hitting the floor than any other player in the NBA.
It's amazing that he lasted this long.
What ever happened to the PG that we had in the Summer league??
I think he signed with the Heat but they released him before
the season start.

Posted by: VB Hoop Fan | December 15, 2007 02:24 PM "

Geez, and some experts on this blog think AD's age, style of play, and minutes had nothing to do with his injury. AD didn't look too happy when Telfair rocked him with a hard foul on the breakaway.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"Now back to these hurt feelings, since your basketball musings have been, well; trashed. Tell us when you new your love for Gil was real. When did he cause you pain? How did it occur? If you have family issues that are the basis for this one-it love affair, please share. Let's get this all out so that we can stay on basketball-related topic as opposed to the smelly body parts that you refer to from time to time. Btw, be sure to include any BO issues in your response...these might be linked to your feeling so of selfworth.

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 10:15 AM "

It's great that you choose to target me for being right on everything that has come to fruition with my predictions, especially with Gilby. Keep reading my posts, and maybe you'll learn more.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

"Now I know it is easy to got directly to yor sterotypes such as crack and prostitution... However, focus on the core you. Define your urging for Gilbert. What are they really? A cry for help? A cry? Do not back away, take the journey, so that you can leave this obsession behind. Gilbert, does not love you, he does not know you although you may have yelled for his love from the nose bleed seats. You will survive, we are here for you. SHARE!

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 10:20 AM "

Gilby may love you, but many men have loved your mom more...for that 5 minutes.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Big win. AD going down could have easily punctured our confidence. Instead the team responds with its best defensive effort of the season (didn't see the game, basing it on the score - would love to hear more from those of you who watched the game).

Keep it up Wiz!

Posted by: ATLwizFAN | December 15, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Gilby may love you, but many men have loved your mom more...for that 5 minutes.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 09:03 PM


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Dig deeper, no transference. I know you have the strength to find the basis of your obsession and do away with it. Perhaps someday you will be able to see Gil play basketball and not breakout in hives. For now, we will simply accept your acknowledgement of the your deep abiding love and obsession. Ok, the floor is yours, tell us about it. If there are also issues with your parents, we will deal with them in the followup sessions.

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Caron is the undisputed hear and soul of this team. He sets the tone each and every game. Tonight, he emphasized teamwork and racked up eight assits. He'd better get an all-star nod. If the Wiz keep winning, the votes should accumulate.

Blatche is really struggling with the fouls the past few games - on both ends of the court. He's taking himself out of these games. He needs to keep his head in the game; the Wiz need him on the court.

Brendan's unstoppable.

Posted by: reispace | December 15, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

"Dig deeper, no transference. I know you have the strength to find the basis of your obsession and do away with it. Perhaps someday you will be able to see Gil play basketball and not breakout in hives. For now, we will simply accept your acknowledgement of the your deep abiding love and obsession. Ok, the floor is yours, tell us about it. If there are also issues with your parents, we will deal with them in the followup sessions.

Posted by: Skeef | December 15, 2007 09:33 PM "

Get over yourself and your wannabe psycho analyst schtick. If you can't debate basketball and Les BouleS, then you're wasting your time here.

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 15, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I luv Gilby! Do you think he notices me when I wink and smile and sashay around at the games?

Sashay! '-)

Posted by: DC Man88 | December 17, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

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