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Just wanted to put up a blog post in case you all want to comment on today's game. The Wiz are up 46-41 at the half and playing pretty well. A win over the Mavs following last week's big wins over Boston would really send a message to the league about this team.

By Ivan Carter |  January 21, 2008; 2:17 PM ET
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Don't feed the animals, Ivan.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 2:24 PM

The funniest thing this season is that Gilby had a much ballyhooed workout regiment this offseason. He was playing hoops at Barry Farms on 9 ft. rims, he was biking without a helmet around town, he was playing video games, he was selling 32 versions of his new shoes, and he was running behind a parachute. What does he have to show for that? A bum knee.

What about Caron? He's having a career year. His scoring average is up, his rebs and other stats are up. He being called a franchise player now. The team has followed his cue on toughness. Now, he's got 3 point range, is hitting almost 50 FT's in a row, and has slimmed down.

Shocking to all, because nobody heard anything about Caron all summer, and he's been a pleasant shocking surprise to us all. No info whatsoever that Caron was working out so hard this summer.

Let's stand up and give Caron his props.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 2:40 PM

Did anyone see the latest AJ promo?

"He doesn't have a nickname....he doesn't have an alias....all he has is Jamison in the back and Wizards in the front...READY TO RULE!"

What a great counter commercial to the overhyped and overused Agent Zero commercials.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 3:08 PM

DC Mann88........they also have one for Caron Butler...but he does have a nice name which is tough juice

Posted by: Fulvio | January 21, 2008 3:13 PM

CARON WITH THE SWADDAGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody who thinks or says this team is not exciting without Gilby in the lineup needs to be

1. slapped hard
2. slapped again
3. get their eyes checked.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 3:16 PM

"DC Mann88........they also have one for Caron Butler...but he does have a nice name which is tough juice

Posted by: Fulvio | January 21, 2008 03:13 PM "

Thanks. I haven't seen that yet.

Caron may have a nickname, but it was given by EJ as earned.

Gilby's nickname was conjured up by himself in his attempts at self promotion.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 3:18 PM

Ahhh! Very satisfying win. It feels like last season again (before the injuries of course). Seriously though, Ernie is a genious, this is how you assemble an NBA team, piece by piece, till the puzzle is a masterpiece. We're almost there guys.

Posted by: The Owl Wizard | January 21, 2008 3:19 PM

Wow this DCMan88 guy is something else. 6 out of the 10 posts are by him? Start your own blog buddy dont corrupt this one.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 3:28 PM

Message delivered. This team is for real. You can add to Ernie's long, long list of smart-to-brilliant moves (let's hear again from the anti=DeShawn pro-Navarro group) the addition of Randy Ayers. What a different mindset this team has from last season with regard to defense. Dallas committed 25 TO's and seemed frustrated all day. The leaders of this team have all bought into the defense mentality and when Gil returns he will also buy into it, in my opinion.

Posted by: arnie | January 21, 2008 3:35 PM

I notice Stein and Hollinger at espn both have the Wiz ranked 11th in the power rankings. This after beating the Celtics back-to-back. The Cavs are ranked higher? Wonder if today's handy victory over the Mavs earns them increased respect? Oh well, it just doesn't matter. They are playoff bound and I'm liking their chances. Yes, how Gilbert and Etan will fit in are live issues, and it probably doesn't hurt Gilbert to read in this forum the reservations many have about him as a team player. (If he does read it.) But he's a smart guy and he's only getting more mature with time. Seeing how the team has succeeded without him has obviously given him much to ponder. He'll be a big addition to the team when he returns. The "old masters" AJ and AD, and fellow all-star CB won't let things get out of hand. The Wiz are better than most people realize.

Posted by: 7snider7 | January 21, 2008 3:42 PM

It's time to raise the expectation level for the Wiz sans GA. I was hoping we'd remain around .500 by feeding on bottom dwellers and mid-level teams.

I didn't count on a 20/10 Jamison at this point in the season, a True No.1 and Top 15ish player in Caron, and the ever increasing defensive effort and results that I've seen so far.

I'm really impressed with how they are playing, and I have no doubts we'll continue and perhaps be the team to beat in the East, once Gilbert is back. Great Win and Sweep of the Mavericks for Wiz today!

Posted by: Janitor | January 21, 2008 3:44 PM

great win. some potentially important playoff-seeding games coming up this week and next against cleveland and toronto (twice). let's hope the wizards can keep it rolling.

Posted by: AC | January 21, 2008 3:45 PM

"Wow this DCMan88 guy is something else. 6 out of the 10 posts are by him? Start your own blog buddy dont corrupt this one.

Posted by: | January 21, 2008 03:28 PM "

You're great at counting. I heard Ocean City is looking for someone to count the number of grains of sand at their beach. You should go submit your resume.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 3:47 PM

Randy Ayers for coach of the year.

Posted by: Wiz fan in NJ | January 21, 2008 3:48 PM

I have to give it up to the guys, their playing really well. I just want to see what happens when Gilbert returns.

I am not so worried about how Etan will fit, he does need the balls as much. He is high energy and will only make the bench better.

Posted by: Skip in Va | January 21, 2008 3:50 PM

Is this team peaking too early?

One fear I have, especially when multiple players are having "career" seasons at the same time (D.S., Haywood, Blatche...etc) is the distinct and inevitable premise that they will come down to earth so to speak. If that happens (like it happened last year), then what?

I'm not sure how you can combat this, its not like EJ is burning out the starters, but maybe something to think about going forward?

Posted by: The Owl Wizard | January 21, 2008 3:53 PM

I'm patting myself on the back: I thought Randy Ayres would make a difference all along. But would the Wiz be transformed into a formidable defensive team had Gilbert remained uninjured? Was he buying into Ayres' coaching? Will he when he returns?

Posted by: 7snider7 | January 21, 2008 3:57 PM

Peaking isnt something that really applies in Pro Basketball. The season is so long and their are so many games. Great thing about NBA play-offs that really eliminates peaking is the 5 and 7 game series. Its not one and done like the NCAA Tourney.

In the NBA, good teams expose bad ones over a series of games.

Posted by: JSchon | January 21, 2008 4:01 PM

Echoing what others have said above, I would say the single biggest factor in the Wiz being able to still play well without GA is their improved defense.

I expect when GA gets back he will play better defense as well. From the link posted by Rook yesterday, it was looking like GA had improved his defense in the eight games that he played this year (over last year).

Posted by: Tim | January 21, 2008 4:07 PM

I understand NBA teams aren't prone to typical "peaking" like a college team is. However the point remains, that for the past month a number of our veteran players have played better than they have ever played in their careers.

While this is a good thing, it does leave me a little worried that its happening in January and not April. Championship teams go from good to great after the allstar break. Does this team have another gear left that it can go to?

Posted by: The Owl Wizard | January 21, 2008 4:08 PM

The extra gear is GA.

Posted by: JSchon | January 21, 2008 4:13 PM

In the past several years going back to when Larry Hughes was here, the Wizards have not played as well after the All Star break.

This poorer play seemed to be related to injuries they incurred.

Posted by: Tim | January 21, 2008 4:17 PM

Were so money

Posted by: Jason | January 21, 2008 4:18 PM

The extra gear is GA.

Posted by: JSchon | January 21, 2008 04:13 PM

You got it. Provided he doesn't mess up the shift.

Posted by: 7snider7 | January 21, 2008 4:19 PM

In the past several years going back to when Larry Hughes was here, the Wizards have not played as well after the All Star break.

This poorer play seemed to be related to injuries they incurred.

Posted by: Tim | January 21, 2008 04:17 PM

Well yes and no. Three years ago the Wiz actually got better after the all star break and beat Chicago in the playoffs. Of course the past two seasons have been different. Yes injuries have played a part, but Championship teams overcome injuries and just play.

A big reason has also been that the Wiz have not stepped up their game. We've always been a jump shooting team and very much still are. The more the season goes along the less those shots fall.

Posted by: Owl | January 21, 2008 4:24 PM

Looks like DC Moron (Clewiston) is at it again...what a surprise. I think your Heat have lost 12 in a row now.

Posted by: Wizzz | January 21, 2008 4:28 PM

1 1/2 games out. Come on Detroit, beat Orlando. And by the way, STOP with the worrying about Gilbert coming back and chemistry issues. EVERY team in the league would like to have that problem.

Posted by: Larry Roberts | January 21, 2008 4:31 PM

Such a nice win. Now home and home against the Cavs... a minor moment of truth and hopefully we will once again rise to the occasion.

Wizards 2007-08 -- Ya gotta love 'em.

Posted by: khrabb | January 21, 2008 4:32 PM

When I said they often did not play as well after the All Star break, I was speaking of the regular season.

As I recall in that season with Hughes (his last here), he was out for at least a month after the break and AJ missed time as well with knee tendinitis.

They were haiving trouble winning games for a while, but came on at the end to secure a playoff spot when AJ and Hughes were back.

Posted by: Tim | January 21, 2008 4:33 PM

Are you done counting grains of sand yet?
I didn't think so! OCean city has a ton of sand! Probably too many too even count by someone who likes to count things! Like you!

Maybe you will think about that next time you try to one up the DC man.

Way to lay down the smack DCMan!

oooooeeeeee!

Posted by: i smoke | January 21, 2008 4:37 PM

lol-ing right now!

I have this picture in my head of a guy applying for a job and they ask: "Do you have any prior experience counting sand grains?"

You would probably have to intern first!

I wouldn't even want to have estimate how many grains of sand there are!

Posted by: i smoke | January 21, 2008 4:41 PM

And by the way, STOP with the worrying about Gilbert coming back and chemistry issues. EVERY team in the league would like to have that problem.

Posted by: Larry Roberts | January 21, 2008 04:31 PM

Maybe so, but it is still potentially a problem. You don't deal with a potential problem by ignoring it. You see that it may be coming and prepare for it. The hope is that upon returning Gilbert will be all about winning, and that his personal stats will be an afterthought. If he can do that, the Wiz could go all the way given the way they're playing.

Posted by: 7snider7 | January 21, 2008 4:43 PM

Haywood has improved because of hard work (FT/shooting %) and because he is getting the minutes he needs. The other top seasons are almost entirely due to more minutes than they've ever played. Caron is having a career year because he has taken over as top dog. Coach Hopla deserves a lot of credit. You can see the changes in shooting form with BH, DS, AD and Caron.

Caron should remain top dog when Gilbert comes back because this team plays with his personality now. Gilbert can still be the media darling and he'll get his shots. But to do anything in the playoffs this team needs Caron voice and will to win out defensively. Eddie can help by getting Gilbert to give up the ball to start half court possessions, for starters.

The myth that this team has to outscore people and win 110-108 every night is dead. that means Gilbert can increase his defensive effort without worrying about taking over in the 4th quarter.

Posted by: Monte | January 21, 2008 4:44 PM

BTW, it did come out this summer on the Wiz website from Caron himself that he had worked in the offseason to improve his shooting range, ball handling and also his conditioning. It really shows.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 4:55 PM

Caron should remain top dog when Gilbert comes back because this team plays with his personality now. Gilbert can still be the media darling and he'll get his shots. But to do anything in the playoffs this team needs Caron voice and will to win out defensively. Eddie can help by getting Gilbert to give up the ball to start half court possessions, for starters.

The myth that this team has to outscore people and win 110-108 every night is dead. that means Gilbert can increase his defensive effort without worrying about taking over in the 4th quarter.

Posted by: Monte | January 21, 2008 04:44 PM

I agree with everything you said here minus the last paragraph.

I think it would be him focusing on defense and taking over at the end of the game. I always thought Gil was a more dangerous Tony Parker, both extremely quick, get to the paint/line at will and close the game out. The difference clearly being that Gil shoots better than Tony and Tony defends better.

But yes, I think the offense should run through Caron like it was this season before Gilbert went out. And why not take Caron's personality, he's older and he was a lottery pick. Gilbert is a second rounder who worked his way to All NBA status. Can't be mad at that.

Posted by: Owl | January 21, 2008 4:56 PM

Wow, I never post here, but I just had to say that DCGirl88 is the biggest a-hole I've seen on the net in a while. What does is take for the Post to ban someone?

DCGirl88: Why all the hate on Gil? Did he reject your advances?

This team is going to be absolutely deadly when Gil returns. It's not that much of a homeristic stretch to think that they might become one of the three best teams in the league by the end of the season.

Posted by: JJ | January 21, 2008 5:23 PM

I like your thinking, JJ, about when GA gets back.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 5:27 PM

Wow. I'm really enjoying this season.

DC"MAN" would be irritating if he had a brain. But he doesn't so he's not.

Posted by: Patrick | January 21, 2008 5:38 PM

"Wow. I'm really enjoying this season.

DC"MAN" would be irritating if he had a brain. But he doesn't so he's not.

Posted by: Patrick | January 21, 2008 05:38 PM "

Could be worse. Could be you.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 6:02 PM

"Wow, I never post here, but I just had to say that DCGirl88 is the biggest a-hole I've seen on the net in a while. What does is take for the Post to ban someone?

DCGirl88: Why all the hate on Gil? Did he reject your advances?

This team is going to be absolutely deadly when Gil returns. It's not that much of a homeristic stretch to think that they might become one of the three best teams in the league by the end of the season.

Posted by: JJ | January 21, 2008 05:23 PM "

The only thing deadly is probably your mom's crotch.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 6:02 PM

"You got it. Provided he doesn't mess up the shift.

Posted by: 7snider7 | January 21, 2008 04:19 PM "

Odds are he will. Gilby has become obsolete here in DC. Team is thriving without him.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 6:05 PM

HA! Deadly like your mom's crotch! Cause SHe prolly doesnt wash it!

Aw, man... thats awesome DC Man...

where do you get this stuff? Genius...

Whats next? Who's next? who wants a piece of DC Man? No one!!! thats who...

I cant wait to see your next smack down!

Deadly as your moms crotch, thats legit!

Posted by: i smoke | January 21, 2008 6:09 PM

No diggity, no doubt.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 6:21 PM

Great game great win!

It's funny, you listen to pretty much all of the Wiz players and they can't wait for Gil to return but yet most of you who post here thinks he is gong to cause a problem. I am a true blue Wiz fan and read pretty much all of the sites devoted to the Wiz and this has to be the most anti-Wiz site I have seen. Most of the posts I scanned are full of crap with this DC person and full of crass comments regarding body parts and and other vulgarities. Here it was that I assumed Wiz fans had class.

Anyway.........it will be interesting to see how the Wiz play Cleveland. Looking forward to it. Great to see Etan back and Eddie continuing to give Brendan his props. Would love to see more of Dominque McGuire but I guess his time will come.

GO WIZARDS!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 6:22 PM

"It's funny, you listen to pretty much all of the Wiz players and they can't wait for Gil to return but yet most of you who post here thinks he is gong to cause a problem. I am a true blue Wiz fan and read pretty much all of the sites devoted to the Wiz and this has to be the most anti-Wiz site I have seen. Most of the posts I scanned are full of crap with this DC person and full of crass comments regarding body parts and and other vulgarities. Here it was that I assumed Wiz fans had class.

Posted by: | January 21, 2008 06:22 PM "

This shows why people remain anonymous, because I sure as heck wouldn't want to be associated with that kind of stupid post either.

Nobody here said Gilby is going to come back as a problem. What people are saying is that it'll be interesting to see how he'll blend in and what kind of role he'll assume because the team has changed in many areas since he left.

All the while Gilby has been gone, he's been very defensive on the same issue too. He was sensitive when KG said that this team is better without him. Gilby's response was that it takes 82 games to determine if a this team is better without him. Also, Gilby said Les BouleS have beaten bottom feeders except for Dallas. That was until Les BouleS just beat Boston twice and Dallas again today.

Based on Les BouleS success, Gilby has no recourse now but to accept the fact that Les BouleS have indeed changed, gelled, gotten better, etc. since he went out. Thus, to save further embarrassment of himself, he's resigned to that fact and thus offered up a token "I can come off the bench" remark.

Time will tell how this plays out, but I'm just glad Les BouleS are doing great and the games are more exciting now from start to finish because you don't have one single player dominating the ball and you don't have to rely on final second heroics. I prefer the fact that Les BouleS are beating teams soundly, like today at home.

Hurray!

PS. If these guys keep playing as well as they are playing, and making me proud, I might have to retire "Les BouleS" for the rest of the season and just call them the Wiz.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 6:31 PM

Aw man, that was thought provoking stuff DC Man!

Humanitarian Award is in the mail!!!

Just when you thought he was going to lay down law like TJ Hooker, you drop the knowledge like Ms. Crabtree...

You are a beast... Can I make you dinner?
DC Man for Prez...

Posted by: i smoke | January 21, 2008 6:42 PM

Please, please everyone....just ignore the village idiot. He's totally ruining the blog.

If a child has a temper tantrum and his parents ignore him, eventually he will stop....same with the Village Idiot. He just wants attention.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 6:45 PM

This team has proven its mettle beyond anybody's expectation. We now know what they can do.

Now is the time to start planning for the playoffs. In particular, AJ's and CB's (and even AD's) minutes should be limited to 35 per game over the next 20 games, and the reserves need to show what they've got if they expect to get any minutes in the playoffs.

Posted by: Izman | January 21, 2008 6:46 PM

Some idiot posted not to quote something stupid from a rapper and what does that idiot do? He quotes a rapper! ROFL!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 6:52 PM

What I noticed that was interesting was that AB played limited minutes in the first half. He looked out of it, out of sync.

However, despite his poor play ,EJ let him play the last 6 minutes of the game even when BH only had 1 personal foul.

I thought that was a great move by EJ. AB needs to know that his lack of production isnt going to determine his minutes.

Posted by: JSchon | January 21, 2008 6:52 PM

Last year, DCWoman dogged AB so bad and wanted him gone and saying he'd rather have Paul Millsap than AB any day. Then of course, when AB was playing well, DCWoman completely turned around and said EJ was an idiot for not letting AB have any playing time to show his talent, etc...

Pathetic and fickle, just like the DCWoman he is.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 6:57 PM

Well DC88 is an idiot anyway. AB came out of high school and is only 21 whereas Millsap played 4 years of college. Millsap may have a nose for the ball on the glass but he is undersized very little upside compared to AB. AB has so much to show.

An apt comparison would be Juwan Howard vs. Sheed when they were both here in DC. We all know how each player's career went after the Bullets foolishly traded away Sheed.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 7:06 PM

This is an old, old gripe that y'all will of course ignore. But. Why can't you link stories to a box score? I'm sick of having to go to ESPN to get the box. It's 2008. How hard could that possibly be?

Posted by: John | January 21, 2008 7:08 PM

Awesome game by the 'Zards. I will continue to visit Ivan/Michael's blog here even with the troll here when he's not lurking in his mom's basement. It's a shame, we'll probably hear about him when he hangs himself one day.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 7:12 PM

WHAT SHAME? WE'D ALL REJOICE!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 7:14 PM

Well I for one thought some of the things posted by DCMan was pertinent and good for discussion in the blog last year. He even sounded almost normal shortly after the New Year, but soon afterwards, all he's posted has been venomous junk to other posters instead of focusing on real basketball. Oh well, I suppose you can't change a tiger's stripes after all.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 7:26 PM

Go Wiz..

I went out on a limb at the beginning of the season and predicted that the team would do well if not better without GA.. no man a team make... so I'll take another shot.. I say trade him. Who knows who we might get in return? Two players for the prize of one? Perhaps a couple of players with playoff experience. GA will never be a role player.... he thinks he's the show. He will do well elsewhere, and we cold pick up the depth we need.

Posted by: LK | January 21, 2008 7:33 PM

Go Wizards! Now slap Lebron's Cavs upside the head so his scowl becomes permanent.

Posted by: rgz | January 21, 2008 7:37 PM

This is an old, old gripe that y'all will of course ignore. But. Why can't you link stories to a box score? I'm sick of having to go to ESPN to get the box. It's 2008. How hard could that possibly be?

Posted by: John | January 21, 2008 07:08 PM

Here you go:
Click on:
- www.washingtonpost.com/wizards
- http://stats.washingtonpost.com/nba/scoreboard.asp
- then click on Box

Posted by: rgz | January 21, 2008 7:42 PM

sorry, click on Box of the game you want.

Posted by: rgz | January 21, 2008 7:43 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! HALLELUJAHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Let's all get together and say a prayer that Gilby will blow out his other knee so that the current team can continue to play well and not leave chance that this media hog Gilby will return any time soon.

SWADAGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 7:49 PM

Great win today, especially in how they locked in on D in the second half and really didn't give the Mavs much of an option. They got baskets, but they had to throw something up with the shot clock running down. And the steals and hands in the passing lanes! Don't think I've seen the Wizards EVER play D like that. Keep it up.

And how about Stevenson and Pech from outside? "I get buckets, son"...

Great to see Etan back and mellow on the bench with the guys. Hope his rehab progresses and that if we see him this year, there will be no beef between him and Haywood.

Now, a beatdown of the Cavs in Cleveland on Wednesday (and tough scrapping after that with Memphis and Toronto, win or lose -- though I really want them to crush Memphis) will get this team even more attention.

Go Wiz!

Posted by: iceberg | January 21, 2008 7:49 PM

"

Well I for one thought some of the things posted by DCMan was pertinent and good for discussion in the blog last year. He even sounded almost normal shortly after the New Year, but soon afterwards, all he's posted has been venomous junk to other posters instead of focusing on real basketball. Oh well, I suppose you can't change a tiger's stripes after all.

Posted by: | January 21, 2008 07:26 PM "

Oh well, who really cares anyway? Only the people obsessed with trying to make Gilby invaluable and irreplaceable on this team. It's great that CBut and AJ and others are proving them all wrong.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 8:03 PM

leave the poor guy alone. DC Man is only responding to personal attacks. He is not on the offensive but on the defensive. He makes some very good points and makes this blog interesting and worth reading. The only complaint I have is wishing injury on someone.

Posted by: MD Man90 | January 21, 2008 8:11 PM

Why can't we move the Bullets back to Landover....DC sucks :)

Posted by: MD Man90 | January 21, 2008 8:12 PM

I know its killing gilbert the team is playing so well without him.

Posted by: lance | January 21, 2008 8:25 PM

Great game. Ivan, share the popcorn. Defense picking up is result of CB & AJ leadership followed up improvements from the bench. Has anyone been surprised by PESH. Solid performance over past few games. EJ is comfortable with bench since he had 6-9 in during 3rd quarter when the game was slightly favoring Washington.

On Gilbert, his ego is part of the game and helps his endorsements; which is were the big money is made. Can he handle the bench position? Yes, because his real desire is NBA championship and the respect it will bring.

Posted by: Gareth | January 21, 2008 9:07 PM

"I know its killing gilbert the team is playing so well without him.

Posted by: lance | January 21, 2008 08:25 PM "

It is, that's why he responded to KG's comment about the team being better without him by saying that it can't be judged until after 82 games, and that the team without him, at the time, had only beaten bottom feeders with the exception of Dallas.

After that, he realized that it was a no win battle, so he offered to come off the bench for 4-5 games when he returns.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 9:20 PM

"leave the poor guy alone. DC Man is only responding to personal attacks. He is not on the offensive but on the defensive. He makes some very good points and makes this blog interesting and worth reading. The only complaint I have is wishing injury on someone.

Posted by: MD Man90 | January 21, 2008 08:11 PM "

I know, that was in poor taste and I take that back.

But, you are very correct and astute in noticing that any vulgarity from me is in response to the multitude of personal attacks and bad words from people who can't handle a single phrase uttered against their hope and dream, Gilby.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 9:21 PM

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 21, 2008 9:23 PM

Did anyone else catch Stackhouse when he was checking back in late in the game? He was getting booed (again), and he made like he was checking out the fingers on his hand... and then left the middle one up. He probably didn't know that moment was going to be broadcast on the Jumbotron, though. I wonder if any TV personas saw that.

Posted by: VeCente115 | January 21, 2008 9:40 PM

Those damn good-for-nothing Pistons! Couldn't even help us out tonight with the Magic. Dammit!

Posted by: George Templeton | January 21, 2008 9:49 PM

Orlando has a good team and they were playing at home. Close though.

Miami is actually giving Cleveland a game tonight so far - another team we will be competing with for playoff positioning.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 10:07 PM

When Gilby gets back this squad will be awsome it is going to be up to EJ to balance the minutes, big game on wedensday vs the LEBRONS can't wait for that one we win that one w/o GILBY and that would be huge that will give the LEBRONS something to think about and by the way ease up on the tasteless remarks dc man88.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | January 21, 2008 10:34 PM

"Those damn good-for-nothing Pistons! Couldn't even help us out tonight with the Magic. Dammit!"

No man, that helps us! I think we can catch Detroit (passing Orlando's a lock).

Posted by: Adam | January 21, 2008 10:39 PM

DCMAN88, are you Clewiston from the espn board?


Yes or no, you're a worthless sack of you know what for wishing an injury on Gil and for talking all the crap you've been talking.

Posted by: Adam | January 21, 2008 10:41 PM

Personally I have no issue with DC. We approach our team, and I'm guessing basketball from different angles and viewpoints. I tend to look at things analytically, and think my way around issues. DC is a little more on his gut feelings about issues. Neither of us are employed in the Wiz front office so it really doesn't matter, its all just friendly banter.

I am glad to see that you retracted your statement about injuring another man though. That was a little disturbing.

Posted by: Owl | January 21, 2008 10:43 PM

Owl, how can you NOT have an issue with him? The dude is plain and simply DERANGED. Im beginning to think he is writing from the looney bin.

He is obsessed with Gilbert and just cannot let it go. Even if Gilbert is not mentioned for days, he will bring him up and trash him. Enough already - DC jerk. Go tell it to someone who cares!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 10:52 PM

Adam, I am not calling anything a lock at this point. Before the Wizards can think about the Pistons, they need to pass and put the Magic in the rear view mirror. Unfortunately it looks like the Magic aren't going to collapse like last year.

And why does anyone here respond to some of the nasty things about Gilbert posted by DCMan88, Lance and others. There is no point. You can't engage them on this issue so just ignore them when they take a gratuitous shot at Gilbert or when they take a gratuitous shot at you. Not every post should be hijacked like this one. It's nuts!

Posted by: George Templeton | January 21, 2008 10:58 PM

look guys, let's just stand down for a bit. when things get personal, it's easy for people to get riled up. DC regularly has good posts.. as do many on this board. But when things spiral downward and people pile on, he (and others) lash out a bit. For example, people keep on bringing up a $7K bet or Clewiston or whatnot, i suppose to prove up the point that he has a personal vendetta against Gilby. Regardless of whether this is true or not, some (SOME) of his points are legit. He apologized for some of his remarks so a bit of detente now, maybe? I agree that a number of his posts have been crude and tasteless but so have others who have been provoked and are in turn needling back. So, please, just chill.

The Gil question is a live one and worthy of debate. although pretty much nothing can get resolved until it happens so it's pretty speculative right now. Personally, I think Gilbert will cause a bit of a hiccup when he reintegrates in a month or two but his addition will be absolutely crucial for the playoff run. I would love a 3-6 matchup to bounce the Cavs in the first round...

Anyway, I am HIGHLY enjoying myself. Caps seem to be rolling right now and the Wiz fer sure are. I almost want to believe that the Giants will beat the Patriots in some agonizingly painful fashion (i.e., Eli tossing a hail mary with no time left) to blow up the perfect season.

But I'm just dreaming. The reality is that the Cavaliers are coming up and they are playing well, I think. Give LJ credit, he's playing like a man right now.

I placed a bet with a friend: Wizards will finish no worse than 4 seed. Waddya all think of that?

Posted by: duk | January 21, 2008 11:10 PM

nice all star omissions for Gil DCWoman, shows everyone your true colors. BTW you sure know so much about Kobe. You must be that CO woman sucking on Kobe's schlong we all heard about. Getting denied by Gil must have hurt once you've had Kobe beef!

Posted by: | January 20, 2008 08:44 PM

Anon, DC Man88 has already admitted he's gay, so in effect he has already had too much schlong - it's not really an insult when it's the truth to him.

I have to admit though, you had me rolling with the KOBE BEEF stuff! Awesome stuff.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 11:10 PM

How does Arenas deserve to be an all star selection this year? Why the heck are people voting for him? I never understood why people vote for injured players. Just goes to show you that letting the fans decide the all stars is a big mistake. Especially when the 2 billion people in China will easily vote in Yao Ming (ok deservedly) and Yi Jianlian (getting more votes than Caron and Antawn??).

Posted by: MD Man90 | January 21, 2008 11:19 PM

Yeah fan voting is mostly a popularity contest, but then again, they are the ones paying these athletes the exorbitant contracts so they should at least have a say to who they wanna see in the all star game.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 21, 2008 11:22 PM

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Posted by: George Templeton | January 21, 2008 10:58 PM

Orlando ALWAYS fades away toward the end of the year....But hey, if we're the 2 seed, the 3 seed, the 4 seed, it doesn't really mean much....We still have to go through Boston and/or Detroit eventually.

And I normally wouldn't say anything about this DC jerk, but there should be some way to ban this guy's IP address or something...It's inexcusable to act like him.

Posted by: Adam | January 21, 2008 11:26 PM

I know it's not in the fan DNA to keep expectations reasonable and not get carried away, but I'll make the plea anyway ... hold off before predicting the Wiz winning the East. It's a long season and they've got a lot of work ahead of them.

Posted by: kalorama | January 21, 2008 11:44 PM

i smoke has been cracking myself up.

Good job selfs keep up the good work!
1 more in the ear ought to do it!

DC man! What uP?

You seem to be giving Gilby a pass, implying that he could be softening his stance almost makes him sound reasonable. We both know he is more obstinate than a passive aggressive board trolling repressed anti-social pseudonym sporting donkey (brighteyes)

http://horsefame.tripod.com/img/BGCbk.jpg

I loved that obstinate donkey until i learned about Laura! Pick up that sock!

Now is not the time for compassion!
We ache for your singularly focussed smackery!

Posted by: i smoke | January 22, 2008 12:04 AM

oopsy, i clearly meant (brighty)

Posted by: i smoke | January 22, 2008 12:07 AM

I think too many people are rushing to judgement on Gilbert. Nobody knows how a player will play under certain conditions until the opportunity is presented. Gilbert has seen how effective the Wizards have been in terms of ball movement and defense. This is even more astonishing considering the almost embarrassing manner in which the Wiz regarded the importance of defense in recent years. Sure, there is a chance that Gilbert will go back being the chucker he is (after all, scoring is his forte) but considering his personality and character (his love of the game, unsurpassed work ethic), I would say there is a very good chance he will successfully adapt his game in light of Butler's recent emergence and the team's commitment to physical, hard-nosed defense. I think we should start looking at Arenas' return in positive ways rather than thinking that he will blow up the team's chemistry. I liken this to Amare Stoudamire's situation a while ago. Though the Suns won 54 games, nobody dared suggest that he was a hindrance to the team (and upon his return, it was clear he was a crucial component of a Suns team playing at optimum efficiency). You need to remember that Caron, Antawn and DeShawn have risen their output to levels that we haven't seen when Gilbert was playing. Now assuming that they keep up their play and Gilbert comes back at say 85-90% of his capabilities, I see no reason why this team can't advance to the Finals.

Posted by: Nasir | January 22, 2008 12:58 AM

DC "Man"88 (Clueless88):

I see that now that you can't argue the Heat still being in title contention or better than the Wiz, the next best thing you can think to do is knock Gilbert Arenas by pretending that his team is better without him. After he comes back and the team dominates as a whole, what then will you think to diss Arenas or the Wiz about? If the Wizards are on a roll at the end of the season and through the playoffs, what will your role be on this board?

Oh yeah, you'll bash Gil because he was injured.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 22, 2008 2:23 AM

I have not been one of those who bait dcman on this site and have found his comments occasionally stimulating.

But today I think things have gotten a little out of hand... Man, you should NEVER wish pain on another human being, period, full stop.

Take your meds, son.

Posted by: khrabb | January 22, 2008 4:14 AM

Everyone here who encourages the village idiot should withhold their comments because they obviously don't know his history. For every sane comment he posts, there are 50 insults/Gil bashing posts. We all know that he has a thing for Gilbert and hides it by praising Caron. Vitriol is all that he understands.
MD Man90, If you think that his fool is a 'poor guy' who's only on the defensive, you must be new to this forum.
Even the comments that he makes that are not filled with insults are often just plain wrong and don't have facts to back them up. He makes half-assed assumptions that are logically flawed. He's the same guy that has said negative things about Kobe. All Kobe has done this year is put his team in 3rd place in the conference so far. It was widely documented that Caron was slimming down and working on his long range game this summer yet the idiot missed it and tries to belittle Gilbert. What does the fact that Gilbert rode his bike without a helmet or played ball at Barry Farms have to do with anything? That Gilbert was playing ball and using the parachute to work out says that he was trying to rehab to most sane people. No matter what Gilbert does, the village idiot twists it around. He also continues to bring up articles about Gilberts' kids, his girlfriend and his grotto that have absolutely nothing to do with basketball.
face it, guys...the dude has a serious psychological issue and a crush on Gilbert Arenas.
BTW, compare Kobe's stats this year so far with Gilberts from last year. They're pretty close. Gilbert may not be Kobe but he's invaluable.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 22, 2008 5:31 AM

i smoke, you may have been amusing initially but at this point, you're almost as annoying as the idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 22, 2008 5:33 AM

Basic rule of thumb here is to ignore any posts that are anonymous. Usually, they're idiotic and worthless anyway.

Second rule of thumb is to ignore comments that are dedicated to me. These losers hold personal grudges, and my responses to them in the past are generally initiated by foul words started by them.

Also, there's nothing wrong with bashing Gilby here. He deserves it, and this is a Les BouleS blog. Anybody sensitive to bashings of Gilby should go jump off a building, because nobody is bashing you. It's not like someone slapped your mother, so don't take it so personally.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 8:42 AM

BTW, Lisa sucks.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 8:47 AM

What most people don't realize is that Gil's return will benefit Caron and AJ the most. At the rate those two are going and PT at the 40's each game they will run out of gas between the All-star and near playoff time. Gil will surely help both of them ease their load.

What I'm worried about is our center position. BTH played 20 minutes last night and with ET nearing full recovery will see his mintues go down further.

Posted by: Dave | January 22, 2008 9:14 AM

Dallas played horribly both times the Wiz played them. If we beat the Cavs on Weds, then I'll be a believer.

Posted by: Perspective | January 22, 2008 9:16 AM

Pecherov over Nowitzki, anyone see that? That was great, I hate that guy...look for Pesh to take minutes from Blatche

IE: better range and the same defensive skills

PS did you see him run the break with C+Butler...slow and steady wins the race.

GO WIZARDS!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | January 22, 2008 9:21 AM

When Gilby returns though, I'd prefer to keep AD as the starting PG. Guys now are used to him directing the ball and the flow of the game. If anything, I'd prefer to have DS come off the bench, and put Gilby at the 2.

Gilby playing the 2 would allow him to ease his transition back to the 1 as a starter. The 1 is more stress.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 9:24 AM

I was looking at the stats, and remembered Nick Young calling O-Pec "white hole." Well, O-Pec played 12 minutes, took 2 shots, hitting 50%. Young played 13 minutes, took 10 shots, and hitting 10% less. Who is the bigger "hole?" LOL!

Posted by: Sagaliba | January 22, 2008 9:41 AM

The Idiot establishing rules of thumb? How about a rule banning you from this forum?
Here here !

Posted by: Anonymous | January 22, 2008 9:53 AM

I was looking at Daniels' career stats. He's actually have a somewhat similar season to his first DC year although points are a down a touch and his assist numbers are up. But numbers notwithstanding (and i didn't look at +/- or more esoteric, team based stats), it seems undeniable that Daniels keeps things flowing and under control this year.

What I have trouble recalling from last year was what occurred when Arenas played point. Would having AD at 1 keep the ball flowing when GA comes back? And how are the Wizards' assists numbers this year compared to last (controlling for the facts that the Wiz are scoring less and probably having fewer possessions).

O-Pec has a sort of appealing goofiness. He's an NBA player so obviously he's a great athlete but he also seems to have occasional moments where he forgets how to move backwards. Definitely becoming a fan favorite.

Posted by: duk | January 22, 2008 9:54 AM

The offense isnt as efficient this year than last year. The team is getting the same type of shots and not making higher a percentage of them. They are are getting to line as much and assists are down by 1 per game. There are stats to substantiate this.

The difference in play has been on the defensive side of the ball.

Posted by: JSchon | January 22, 2008 10:05 AM

from Gil's blog (sorry if it's already been discussed):

"I want to get a six-year deal. I want to be a max player. If my team decides that they don't want me here any more and they're going to go in a different direction, then I got to look elsewhere. For me to look elsewhere, I want to go find a championship team who's a championship contender. I'm going to have to take less money, but I'm willing to do that to win a ring. If my team doesn't want me, then I'm going to another team and I'm going to take less money to go there."

How does everyone feel about this?

Posted by: Nick | January 22, 2008 10:07 AM

How do you feel about it Nick?

Posted by: JSchon | January 22, 2008 10:10 AM

In today's paper, even EJ says that Gilbert says things to the media just to get them talking. We'd be better off ignoring what the guy says and judge him on what he does on the court. Unless he's breaking the law or saying something that's socially unacceptable (like offending an ethnic group or religious group), what he does off the court is not that important.
Based on his stats, he turns the ball over too much but he's a good scorer and decent assists guy at 6 per game. For a PG, he's not a bad rebounder and his defense (besides steals) has been below average in previous years. It's worth noting that everyone on the team's defense has been below average except for DS and BTH. DS has been at a disadvantage because he's a perimeter guy who relies on help defense if his man gets by and that help has been nonexistent before this year. Gilbert is in the same boat. With the new system in place, there's no reason to believe that his defense won't as improved as everyone else's.
Some people seem to have a short memory but Caron wasn't that great a defender last year. Again, I hate to tout Holinger as the expert but his PER rating system is the only thing out there that gives comparisons.

http://www.82games.com/0607/0607WAS5.HTM

Looking at last years numbers, we got hurt most at the C position, followed by SF. The negative difference between our PER vs. the opponents PER at those two positions were the greatest. The two highest positive differences were PG and then PF.
In other words, Gilbert and Antawn outplayed their counterparts over the course of the season while no one else on the team did. Granted, they did it on the offensive end but they still did it. Don't see why they couldn't do it again.
For comparison's sake, this year, SG is the only position where the opponent PER is higher than ours. It kinda explains why when DS has a good game, we always win.

Posted by: mark | January 22, 2008 10:37 AM

Nick, as you can see, Gilby is way too focused on money, being a max player. Even when he's got less leverage, he's still putting it out and mildly threatening the organization about what he will do.

If nothing else, I'm glad Abe is not susceptible to threats. If Abe can drop MJ like a bad habit, he can also drop Gilby like a bad habit. I think George Solomon wrote about this awhile ago.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 10:39 AM

The offense is way more efficient this year because we now have a balanced attack, rather than having one single guy dominate the ball. It's always better to have a balanced attack like the Spurs or the Pistons offer, because then the team is less reliant on one single ballhog having to score 30+ a game or last second heroics.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 10:41 AM

How does everyone feel about this?

Posted by: Nick | January 22, 2008 10:07 AM

Absolutely nothing different about Arenas' statement that he has not said a dozen times before. He wants to stay here, but if the Wizards don't want him, he'll go to a Championship contender for less money.

He wants that 6-year deal. The Wizards are the only team that can offer that to him. IF Ernie Grunfeld feels Gilbert is worth max money (which, for a 7 year vet like Gilbert would be about $16per year), then he will sign him. If not, then the Wizards will have about $16M to sign a Free Agent, or two.

I personally believe that re-signing Arenas will be crucial to re-signing Jamison. If they don't re-sign Arenas, I see Jamison leaving to play for Charlotte or Dallas.

The way this team has played this year, especially the way Jamison has played, I can't see Ernie starting over by letting Arenas and Jamison walk and signing Free Agent replacements.

Posted by: Rook | January 22, 2008 10:43 AM

"The Idiot establishing rules of thumb? How about a rule banning you from this forum?
Here here !

Posted by: | January 22, 2008 09:53 AM "

Only if you mattered, but you don't, and that's why you're smart at keeping your anonymous handle. Idiot Lisa.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 10:43 AM

There is absolutely no reason to sign a player to a max deal if the team is flourishing without him. If Les BouleS were tanking, then one could easily reason that Gilby is critical to the success of the team.

Clearly the team is doing great without him, so why bother overspending for Gilby? I'm sure Abe feels the same way.

Since AJ is Abe's favorite player, I'm sure Abe would rather pay up for him rather than Gilby.

Abe doesn't respond well to threats, so I doubt if he'll take mark's advice to ignore Gilby. No one does anyway.

It's funny though. mark tells people to ignore Gilby, but he continues to read Gilby's blog. mark tells people to ignore me, and he's reading my comments too.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 10:46 AM

Wow, I never post here, but I just had to say that DCGirl88 is the biggest a-hole I've seen on the net in a while. What does is take for the Post to ban someone?

DCGirl88: Why all the hate on Gil? Did he reject your advances?

This team is going to be absolutely deadly when Gil returns. It's not that much of a homeristic stretch to think that they might become one of the three best teams in the league by the end of the season.

Posted by: JJ | January 21, 2008 05:23 PM

JJ he did get rejected wanting schlong and it hurt so bad after he's already had Kobe beef.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 22, 2008 10:52 AM

Rook, I can't see any connection between what Arenas does and what Jamison does. I really can't see him going to Charlotte, a lottery team or Dallas, a team that (A) won't have money to sign him and (B) he played for previously and is on record as saying he didn't like playing for (esp. since they already have all-stars starting at the positions Jamison plays).

Jamison wants to win and I think (given that he's still in the prime of his career) he'd rather win with a team he helped build that just piggyback onto someone else's success. There's certainly no guarantee he'll re-sign here, but I don't think there's much chance he'll bolt as a knee-jerk reaction to Gilbert leaving.

If anything, he'll wait to see what kind of move Grunfeld makes to replace Gilbert if he leaves, and go from there. If he goes anywhere, the Spurs would seem to be the most likely destination, as one of the few teams with both cap space and a real shot at a title.

Posted by: kalorama | January 22, 2008 11:31 AM

The offense is not more efficient Herb...
Points are dwon, shooting percentage is down, assist are down.

The difference has been on the defensive end.

Show me any stats that prove the offense being more efficient.

We are even getting the same looks at the basket as last year.

Posted by: JSchon | January 22, 2008 11:43 AM

Les BouleS are absolutely more efficient since Gilby left. More guys are now involved and because they are involved, that gives them an incentive to play tough on D also. Things are going so well, it'll be a shame if/when Gilby returns.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 2:55 PM

You're really showing your complete basketball ignorance now, DCGirl88. The offense is provably less efficient this year, saying that it's not is laughable.

Things are going so well, and it'll be even more awesome when Gilbert Arenas returns and you crawl off to your little hole.

Posted by: JJ | January 22, 2008 3:22 PM

Oh yeah, Les BouleS are way more efficient both on the offensive and defensive end this season without Gilby. Take that to the bank.

Posted by: DC Man88 | January 22, 2008 3:46 PM

JSchon,

My feeling is that I understand the motivation behind Gil's comment but I think from a business-sense it's not going to be effective. Abe Pollin will not be pushed around by anyone, as someone commented above. Further, he's making the comment while sitting at home rehabbing, not exactly a commanding position to be in. If he were healthy, averaging close to 30 ppg, and if the Wizards were as successful as they are right now without him, THEN I would say a statement like that would be harmless. But what kind of leverage does he have right now? Who knows what level of performance he's going to come back at once he is healthy? We all saw how he wasn't the same Gil in the first games of the season. No one knows if we'll see the same Gil as we saw last year again. Odds are we will, but it's not a certainty.

So at this point, he's not a max contract player in my mind. If he makes a comeback this season, shows how significant his contributions are to this team (a question mark at this point only because we won't know the chemistry with the current team until he comes back), then he can talk max contract. But for now, why make the statement? Who's going to take a chance (Wizards or any other team) on a max contract until they see he can come back and make as big an impact as he did in the past few seasons?

In the meantime, I'll enjoy reading his blogs because they are entertaining and will continue cheering for AJ and Tough Juice on the court!

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