Wiz at Clippers, Butler and Daniels update

Caron Butler didn't participate in this morning's shootaround and it appears that he may miss his sixth straight game with a strained left hip flexor when the Wizards play the Clippers tonight here in Los Angeles. Antonio Daniels, who missed the last two games with a sore right ankle, did participate in shootaround and there is a good chance that he'll be in the lineup tonight.

Judging by the conversation I had with Caron the other night, there is a good chance that he will sit out of Sunday's all-star game. He made it pretty clear that his main focus is on getting healthy so he can get back out there and help this team in the second half. I think we all agree that they need a healthy Caron Butler more than they need a hurting Caron Butler in a meaningless, glorified pickup game in New Orleans.

Boston's Ray Allen would be a logical choice as Butler's replacement should he elect to sit out and Orlando's Hedo Turkoglu would be another possibility. Something could be officially announced later tonight.

By Ivan Carter |  February 13, 2008; 5:31 PM ET
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"Judging by the conversation I had with Caron the other night, there is a good chance that he will sit out of Sunday's all-star game. He made it pretty clear that his main focus is on getting healthy so he can get back out there and help this team in the second half. I think we all agree that they need a healthy Caron Butler more than they need a hurting Caron Butler in a meaningless, glorified pickup game in New Orleans."

Caron deserves another round of applause. He's clearly a team guy, focused on his responsibilities with the team. Hooray!

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 13, 2008 6:35 PM

Michael Lee: I think a lot depends on tonight. If Caron goes tonight, he will probably suit up on Sunday. If he doesn't play, he likely will sit. He definitely is honored to be invited to New Orleans, but the Wizards pay his mortgage, ya know.

Butler is confident that this won't be his last all-star appearance and believes that his No. 1 obligation is to the team; not playing a few minutes in an exhibition game.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 13, 2008 6:40 PM

an Jose: Any chance Gil will be back for his self-professed date of March 2? The team is sinking fast without him.

Michael Lee: Gilbert is working his way back into shape. It's really hard to tell exactly when he'll be back. He says early March, Eddie Jordan may want him to rest for a little longer.

The team is sinking fast without Caron Butler and Antonio Daniels. Those guys really need to get back soon. The team has been playing without Gilbert for most of the season, and they've gone 21-19 overall. They've lost seven of their last eight without Caron.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 13, 2008 6:41 PM

We can read the chats ourselves.

But I'll hit on a point. Even with Caron and AD and AJ out there, the Wizards oftentimes look lost offensively. They don't look aggressive. All three settle for jump shots in a lot of instances. That's when it's good to have someone like Gil. They were a top team in the EC last year with him. They're a middle of the pack team without him. He needs to come back.

I was hoping to see Caron play this weekend, but he's absolutely right. It's about the Wizards, not about a ridiculous All-Star game. Good on him.

Posted by: Colin | February 13, 2008 6:59 PM

the league should replace a Wiz with a Wiz in the allstar game...BTH would look nice playing in NO.

Posted by: oddjob | February 13, 2008 7:01 PM

"But I'll hit on a point. Even with Caron and AD and AJ out there, the Wizards oftentimes look lost offensively. They don't look aggressive. All three settle for jump shots in a lot of instances. That's when it's good to have someone like Gil. They were a top team in the EC last year with him. They're a middle of the pack team without him. He needs to come back."

Huh?

And Gilby doesn't settle for jump shots?

And, where was the team during the second half of last season when Caron went out while Gilby and AJ were still in the lineup? Crashing and burning into 8th place in the playoffs.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 13, 2008 7:54 PM

Last year Gilbert got injured 4/4/07 against the Bobcats and Caron got injured 4/1/07 against the Bucks. Caron played his last game 2 games before Gilbert did. The Wizards were slipping even with Caron. Last season the NBA leader in free throw attempts was Kobe at 768, Gilbert was only 50 behind at 718, so I don't think he has been settling for bad jump shots all that much. The Wizards struggled the past two years because both Caron and Gilbert were injured at the same time (granted Caron got injured much later this year, but the injuries still overlaped). The real question is not whose injury is more costly to the team, but at what point does this team go from being considered gutsy to being considered fragile. I like most of the guys on this team, but will they ever be able to stay healthy for a whole season?

Posted by: Dude | February 13, 2008 8:18 PM

Les BouleS were slipping right after Gilby decided to play the all star game even with a dislocated clavicle.

Also, what happened during that "must win" west coast road trip (sans Caron) when they predicted going 4-1 but ended up going 1-4 against west coast teams without their stars? Recall, Caron had hurt his back after the plane sat in the runway for almost 8 hours and missed that west coast series.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 13, 2008 9:34 PM

You are one SICK dude.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 13, 2008 9:51 PM

You are one SUCKEE chick.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 13, 2008 10:13 PM

Your argument has base, they went 2-8 in games that Caron was out (Gilbert played) earlier in the year. But in the time when Caron played between his 2 injuries (early in the year & season ending) the Wizards were barely above .500. I think that the 2-8 was more a reflection of AN all-star being injured rather than THE all-star that was injured, so we will have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: Dude | February 13, 2008 10:48 PM

AD comes back from an injury (which he sustained by playing on an injury) and plays 45 minutes. Not a good sign for the second (temporary?) returns of Butler and Arenas.

I can hear arguments about how bad the bench is and that the starters need to log heavy minutes. But Mason scored 32 the night before and the team was +4 when he was on the floor. He was also on the + side last night.

What comes first: the chicken or the egg? It you don't develop the bench, they will lay eggs when called upon.

Anyway, when Arenas returns, AD will go back to being a bum who can't play with the big boys. Right? No, totally random is what comes to mind.

Posted by: Izman | February 14, 2008 10:41 AM

"Your argument has base, they went 2-8 in games that Caron was out (Gilbert played) earlier in the year. But in the time when Caron played between his 2 injuries (early in the year & season ending) the Wizards were barely above .500. I think that the 2-8 was more a reflection of AN all-star being injured rather than THE all-star that was injured, so we will have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: Dude | February 13, 2008 10:48 PM "

My point also was that Gilby, with his dislocated clavicle, should have sat out last season's all star game, but the megahype that he put behind his last minute squeaking in as a starter clouded his judgment.

Instead of playing in the all star game, and worse, participating in the 3 point shoot out, which traditionally throws off one's shooting stroke, Gilby should have stayed home and rested. Nash pulled out last year because he said he needed to get healed up for his team's second half run. Gilby put his own self interests in front of the team's, and the rest is history, or the rest of last season was history.

Posted by: DC Man88 | February 14, 2008 12:50 PM

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