Wiz at Sonics (one last time?)

Here's hoping that this isn't my last NBA-related trip to this great city. I'm a big Seattle fan.

All hands on deck for the Wizards tonight (except for Gilbert Arenas and Etan Thomas of course) while the SuperSonics will again be without former Maryland F Chris Wilcox (right pinkie finger).

Coach Eddie Jordan said the theme during a morning meeting at the team hotel was centered around doing everything they didn't do last night during that dreadful loss at Portland: Rebound. Play with energy. Close out on shooters. Get back in transition. You name it.

"We just have to play a lot smarter, a lot more athletic and be a lot more physical," Jordan said. "I don't think we did anything even good last night."

Agreed. Philly won again tonight so the Wizards had better come with it.

By Ivan Carter |  March 26, 2008; 9:58 PM ET
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Why doesn't Gilbert come back tonight? Seattle is one of the worst teams in the league and Gil could just guard Luke Ridnour and Earl Watson the whole night.

Posted by: juandixonformvp | March 26, 2008 10:14 PM

Could someone please give me the TVU channel for this game???

Posted by: Jason | March 26, 2008 10:18 PM

It will be sad day for Wizard fans when Gilby does come back.

If Gilby stays out for the year and the Wizards are healthy otherwise, I could see them winning a series or two in the playoffs, as long as Butler is healthy.

If Gilby comes back, they will be bounced in the first round for sure.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 10:56 PM

LOL!

Once again, the loser on this blog decides to make a post using my name again (see above). I saw that this loser made a conscious effort to use "Gilby" instead of "Gil" like she did last time.

I personally do not care if Gilby comes back or not. I do know that if he comes back, he's going to try to prove that he's still got his shot, and in the 20 minutes he's alloted, he might try to put up 20 shots.

In any regard, instead of watching Les BouleS tonight, there's a better game on ESPN, the McDonald's all american game.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:03 PM

BTW, if you look carefully, you will note that I never refer to Les BouleS as "the Wizards."

BUSTED!

LMAO!

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:05 PM

By "she" are you referring to Clewiston88 on the espn board? "Her" last post looks EXACTLY like the one that was supposedly posted by you on here except for the "Gil->Gilby changes."

What a loser indeed.

Posted by: Rodney | March 26, 2008 11:07 PM

I'm busted. I'm clewiston88 and I'm the one making random posts on this blog.

Posted by: Rodney | March 26, 2008 11:11 PM

To comment, you should be required to sign in.

This rebounding is ridiculous. Haywood can't handle big white stiffs...ok, Pryzbilla and Collison are decent players, but damn, why does it have to be like this against the Wizards?

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | March 26, 2008 11:16 PM

To comment, you should be required to sign in.

Agreed.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:20 PM

Please, I could give a rat's @ss (your momma's) if people have to sign in or not.

Just to prove again, I never refer to Caron as "Butler." I either call him Caron or CBut. Also, I use quotes when referring to other people's posts. I don't just post their message.

Rodney, you need to get a life and stop wasting your time comparing one blog to another and who posts what on which board. Only you seem to waste time giving a sh@t.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:28 PM

Oh boy, this West Coast series can turn into ground hog day compared to last season's ill fated west coast series.

So, where are all the geniuses now calling EJ the COTY? Please don't give him all the credit when the team wins, but none of the blame when the team loses.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:31 PM

Wow, whoever is doing this needs to get a life. I never curse as it is against my religion. I would never use words such as "@ss, sh@t, or CBut." Please stop libeling my good standing with this community.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:32 PM

Despite our poor play tonight, I still firmly believe that EJ should be COTY.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:33 PM

UGH, I give up. My midnight shift at McDonald's is coming up. Any posts from "me" tonight after this one are from an imposter.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:36 PM

LOL!
It really is a sincere form of flattery that so many people want to pretend to be me.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:40 PM

lol, let me try

Gilbie is really good at basketball. I like chicken.

Posted by: DCMAN88 | March 26, 2008 11:46 PM

LMAO!!!!

It's like you losers just discovered that you could fake posts in my name, and now you can't do anything else. While you idiots are obsessing over me, I'm going to be watching the game.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 12:00 AM

lol

Posted by: Rodney | March 27, 2008 12:10 AM


I think you've upset yourself.

Posted by: Me | March 27, 2008 12:14 AM

Durant = Beast.

Mason = Fire.

The End.

So long, Seattle

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 12:16 AM


Roger Mason Jr. is not a Microwave, nor a Hibachi, but you can call him the Foreman Grill.

Posted by: TruthAboutIt.net | March 27, 2008 12:19 AM

DC Man, so you are going to watch the game? Well I guess that is a start.

Anyways, I couldn't watch the game tonight because I'm visiting in Atlanta but I'm glad to see a win. Now we can maintain that 5 spot for at least another day.

Posted by: B.A.M. | March 27, 2008 12:30 AM

a win is a win is a win

Posted by: khrabb | March 27, 2008 12:32 AM

a win is a win is a win

Posted by: khrabb | March 27, 2008 12:32 AM

a win is a win is a win

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 12:33 AM

is a win is a win is a win

Much like a troll is a troll is a troll.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 12:46 AM

So we know that 88 is "clewiston" from the ESPN boards. Can someone figure out who this guy is and "out" him so that we can get him outta here and get this blog back to quasi-normal? "Lewiston" and "88" should give us something to start with...

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 1:08 AM

OK, happy they won but...Curious as to why EJ took out Mason for the last few minutes. The guy was ON FIRE and singlehandedly was winning the game for the Wiz by either dropping 3 bombs or drawing defenders and dishing. He didn't look tired. Any thoughts? Same with Songaila -- I thought he was doing a nice job as well only to get pulled at the end.

Posted by: Ed | March 27, 2008 1:12 AM

Songaila looks like a completely different player recently. He must have been playing through some kind of significant injury earlier in the season, because this isn't just a case of getting out of a slump. The way he's running, moving, and cutting to the basket now versus earlier is like night and day.

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 1:44 AM

Why can't I post

Posted by: Rob P | March 27, 2008 1:50 AM

OK, was at the game here in Seattle. Arena crowd was dead - actually may be one of the few places more quiet than the Phone Booth (Verizon Center). Seattle fans I spoke to seem resigned to the fact that the Sonics are departing. Sad - this is really a good sports town. Even still, the place was less than 50% full.

As for the game - weird flow. First two quarters I kept looking at the game and then the score, wondering why the Wiz were not blowing out this team. BTH was available down low almost the entire 1st quarter. DSteve was jacking 3's like he thought he was Agent Zero. It wasn't like Seattle did anything of note, but they were up by 6 at the half. Subsequently built a double digit lead in 3rd quarter and the fans around me sensed a run by the good guys was coming. Then, it happened and the rest is history.

Would be sorry to see the Sonics leave Seattle. But I am glad our guys gutted out an important road win!

Posted by: mohammed10 | March 27, 2008 2:02 AM

BTW, if you look carefully, you will note that I never refer to Les BouleS as "the Wizards."

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 26, 2008 11:05 PM

That's because you're an azzzz.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 2:49 AM

Roger Mason can serve the same purpose that Jaren Jackson did for the Spurs in 98-99. He led them in 3 pointers and that's pretty much all he did. He was instrumental in helping them win the championship that year as he was 31 for 86 on three pointers in the playoffs. Great ending to the game.

Posted by: mark | March 27, 2008 7:26 AM

The Wizards needn't worry about Philly, because they are a freight train that won't be stopped. Cleveland is probably praying that the Wizards grab the 5th seed, because nobody wants anything to do with Philly.

How come the Wizards are world-beaters one night, then sleepwalking the next? COTY? Really? Isn't part of being a great coach getting your team to bring it every night?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 9:00 AM

More clues that we're waaaayyyy overdue for a championship. The last time we won a basketball championship...
Grease was the #1 film in America
The first draft of 'The Empire Strikes Back' was submitted.
The first Ford Pinto explodes after being rearended, causing a major recall.
Susan B Anthony dollars were first coined.
Bill Walton was NBA MVP.
Bernard King made the All Rookie team.
Mike Bibby's dad Henry led the sixers in assists.
Calvin Murphy averaged 25 ppg and only had 5 kids.

OK I made part of that last one up but you get the point. This could be our year !!

Posted by: mark | March 27, 2008 9:22 AM

Actually , I just looked it up and Calvin has 14 children by 9 women. I'm thinking now that I shorted ol' Calvin. He might have had more than 5 by 1978. My bad, Cal.

Posted by: mark | March 27, 2008 9:26 AM

Songaila looks like a completely different player recently. He must have been playing through some kind of significant injury earlier in the season, because this isn't just a case of getting out of a slump. The way he's running, moving, and cutting to the basket now versus earlier is like night and day.

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 01:44 AM

I noticed the same thing too. Maybe he was having some back or leg problems before. However, as you said that is not the case now.

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | March 27, 2008 9:31 AM

No game analysis from me, I was "knocked out" by halftime. I saw enough in the first half to think we might be in trouble.
Did not see the score and highlights until this morning. Man, I hate these 10:00 games, I can't hang anymore.

Anyway, it looks like Mr. Mason is somebody the Wiz will want to give a three year contract to. He plays the "1" (which I did not know or think he could do) and he plays pretty good defense. A three year 12 million dollar contract seems fair. The dude has earned it.

AJ should then be resigned at maybe 8 or 9 for three years and then whatever is left should go to Gilbert. I think they should look at securing AJ and Mason first and then take care of Gilbert. That is no disrespect to Gilbert, but he wants "max" money and that is going to be a MAJOR PROBLEM.....


Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | March 27, 2008 9:43 AM

Ivan,

I'm begging you: please have the web folks institute a registration policy for this blog. It will go a long way toward making this readable again.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 27, 2008 9:52 AM

Posted by: skippyjlp | March 27, 2008 10:37 AM

I certainly agree that Roger Mason should be resigned. He signed a one year deal to show his stuff to the Wiz and has done above and beyond to prove his worth. Last night should show that to the Wiz brass and they should reward Roger with a contract. He is improving his game all around, brings it every night and boy when he is on with the three, he is quite deadly. The "Silent Assassin". Appropriate name for him. Great job by Roger. Don't blow it EG by letting him get out of here.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 10:38 AM

I certainly agree that Roger Mason should be resigned. He signed a one year deal to show his stuff to the Wiz and has done above and beyond to prove his worth. Last night should show that to the Wiz brass and they should reward Roger with a contract. He is improving his game all around, brings it every night and boy when he is on with the three, he is quite deadly. The "Silent Assassin". Appropriate name for him. Great job by Roger. Don't blow it EG by letting him get out of here.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 10:38 AM

Anything less than $16M/year (what he has now) for AJ is great disrespect. But I don't know if the Wizards will give him the same for another 3 years. GA will want $18M/yr at least (he has $12M/yr now).

Posted by: rgz | March 27, 2008 10:43 AM

I've noticed Stevenson doing a little "3d" signal with one hand after he makes a 3...

Ivan, can you ask him what the deal with that is? He does his slightly different than Damon Jones so I'm wondering what that's all about

Posted by: MDBaller1 | March 27, 2008 11:02 AM

rgz - Gilbert may WANT $18M/year, but the CBA will only allow $15.6M/year.

Max contract for a 7-year vet is $15,649,500 for the base year contract.

I think the max raise allowed per year is 12%... and the Wizards are the only team that can offer a 6-year contract.

..
By the way, I think that Roger Mason is playing himself right out of town. This past off-season, he turned down a three-year deal from the Spurs for $3M, to sign a one-year deal with the Wizards for the Veteran Minimum of $895,341. His reasoning?
He wanted the opportunity to showcase his talents this season so he could get a big contract next year.

The Spurs, who like guys that can play a little defense and hit the 3-pointer, may offer him the full mid-level exception this off-season. If they don't, there is probably a team out there that will. The Wizards just won't be able to stay under the Luxury tax to keep him.

Posted by: Rook | March 27, 2008 11:11 AM

I wouldn't sign Jamison for more than $10 mil. True, he's an integral part of this team, and they'll miss him if he leaves... but giving huge contracts to players in their 30s almost never works out in the long run.

See: Carter, Vince
See: Kidd, Jason
See: Wallace, Ben

Posted by: MDBaller1 | March 27, 2008 11:14 AM

I've noticed Stevenson doing a little "3d" signal with one hand after he makes a 3...

Ivan, can you ask him what the deal with that is? He does his slightly different than Damon Jones so I'm wondering what that's all about

Posted by: MDBaller1 | March 27, 2008 11:02 AM

I noticed that too... I just assumed it was disrespect to Jones, who did Stevenson's face wave during the last Cleveland game.

I'm hoping that Stevenson is using that signal to remind himself to keep those "hard feelings" alive.... waiting for the playoffs.

Posted by: Rook | March 27, 2008 11:16 AM

I don't think Antawn would be disrespected by making less money next year (on a new contract) than he is this year (at the end of an excellent contract).

Did Alonzo Mourning feel disrespected when he came off a $20m/yr contract (02-03 with the Heat) and signed for less then $5m with the Nets in 03-04, and then even less when he was back with the Heat after that? I doubt it. How about Juwan Howard, who was also making $20m in 02-03, but signed for 03-04 for only $5m?

I think it's gotta be pretty standard, and understood, that older players coming off large contracts don't necessarily get even bigger money on their next contract, even if they're still playing well. Even Kevin Garnett, the highest-paid player in the league at $21m last year, is making less than he was in 03-04 ($28m), according to the USA Today salary database...

Posted by: Josh | March 27, 2008 11:22 AM

"Did Alonzo Mourning feel disrespected when he came off a $20m/yr contract (02-03 with the Heat) and signed for less then $5m with the Nets in 03-04, and then even less when he was back with the Heat after that? I doubt it. How about Juwan Howard, who was also making $20m in 02-03, but signed for 03-04 for only $5m?

Posted by: Josh | March 27, 2008 11:22 AM "

Uhhhhhhh....

In case you forgot, Zo had kidney disease and had to have a transplant and wasn't even supposed to return to the NBA.

Therefore, you can't really compare negotiating positions between Zo and AJ.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 11:59 AM

"DC Man, so you are going to watch the game? Well I guess that is a start.

Anyways, I couldn't watch the game tonight because I'm visiting in Atlanta but I'm glad to see a win. Now we can maintain that 5 spot for at least another day.

Posted by: B.A.M. | March 27, 2008 12:30 AM "

So you are not watching the game, but still posting. Who cares if you can't watch tonight, but then again, why should anyone care if you can't watch?

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 12:03 PM

You can certainly make an argument that 'Zo was a special case, but he wasn't my only example. Why did Garnett take less money, why did Juwan Howard take less money, why did Rasheed Wallace take less money ($17m 03-04, $10m 04-05), why did Zydrunas Ilgauskas take less money ($14.6m 04-05, $9.2m 05-06)?

It seems awfully likely that it's because they were at least starting to get old for NBA players, and both sides knew they weren't going to get paid like they were still on the upswing.

Posted by: Josh | March 27, 2008 12:49 PM

I think Jamison re-signs for around $10 million/year. He's a smart guy and realizes he's got a great situation here. Guys in their 30s don't, by and large, get huge contracts, and he knows that.

Besides, as much as I like Jamison (and who doesn't?), he's not a max, or near max, player, especially not at his age. I don't think he'd get even $10 million/year from another team, given his current circumstances.

He's a very good player who's in the perfect spot with the perfect team for him. He will know that better than the last couple of Wizards who left for "greener" pastures (Hughes and Jeffries), and give the Wiz a home-team discount, finishing out his career here.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 27, 2008 12:53 PM

Jamison has been overpaid most of his career. A $10 mill contract is hardly disrespect. It's market value for a guy of his age, ability, and history. No GM is going to offer a 32 year old finesse PF who's never gotten past the second round of the playoffs a max deal. At least not one that wants to keep his job.

As for Mason, money's not the only issue with him. I can see the Wiz being willing to match a full MLE offer if they can work it without going over the luxury tax. But there's also the issue of playing time/role. He could get a starting job on some other team which, if the money is even (or close) may be the tipping point for him. Both Finley and Barry are going to be FAs this summer for the Spurs and they most likely won't re-sign both, and may not bring back either. Mason could step right into the starting SG role for them.

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 1:01 PM

Kalorama has it right re: Mason. He's played himself into the full MLE which would be $4.5M/year for a contender (Spurs, Rockets, Hornets) and the Wiz don't have the cap room to resign him as a backup . Tough for EJ to give NY quality minutes while he has DeShawn starting and Mason coming off the bench. They'd have to move AD or DeShawn to free up playing time which isn't going to happen. Mason may like playing in him hometown but not at a deep discount when he's hitting his prime. He's key this year as a 3-point shooter and backup PG, but hard to tell what his role would be like next year.

AJ is not going to accept less than $10M a year to stay here unless they Wiz offer him a 4-year deal which is iffy for a guy who will be 32 in the offseason. He's a great fit for EJ's system, provides leadership and production, and is very durable. The Wiz are going to have to to EXCEED THE LUXURY TAX to keep both Jamison and Arenas. Tough decisions for EG to make, but that's why he makes the big bucks.

Wiz need another big body (i.e. like Etan) to bang and rebound against guys like Collison and Pryzbylla as well as the playoffs.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 27, 2008 1:21 PM

Mason wants to be here and as a Wizard. It is home, he has ALWAYS wanted to play for the home team and he has business ventures in the area that are more viable if he is here. He was offered I think 3 years, 3.something or another million contract with Dallas but decided to take his chances with the Wiz. He also knew about the playing time situation when he decided to stay. At the time, Gil was not out hurt. However.........maybe things have changed and he will be open to other opportunites outside the DC area.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 1:22 PM

I doubt Mason's decision to reject the Spurs and re-sign with the Wizards had anything to do with a longing for home. It was a pretty basic business decision. He knew if he signed in San Antonio he'd be competing with 3 established, entrenched players (Ginobili, Finley, and Barry). In D.C. his competition would be a journeyman coming off a playoff sweep where he shot 19% from the field and a rookie. He figured he had a better shot at being in the rotation and getting regular minutes in D.C. which, in turn, would give him a chance to play his way into a better deal than what the Spurs offered. He was right.

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 1:31 PM

Jamison...finishing out his career here.

Posted by: Keithinator | March 27, 2008 12:53 PM

Another consideration Keithinator is that very few teams will be able to free cap space to even offer Jamison anything in the $11-12 Million range.

Memphis will be under the Salary Cap, after they renounce the rights to Kwame Brown - they should have around $9Mil... (assuming my calculations are correct, after adding back in the mid-level exception). But I doubt Jamison would want to go there.

Sacramento might get close to $8-9Mil under the cap IF both Ron Artest and Kenny Thomas both opt out of their contracts. But Kenny Thomas would be foolish to opt out - he's getting paid $7.4Mil - no other team is going to pay anything close to that.

The point is that both Arenas opting out of his contract at the end of this year, and Jamison's expiring contract, happened at the precise time that is most adventageous to the Wizards.

Posted by: Rook | March 27, 2008 1:32 PM

they should let Mason go if the money gets big and they really think Young is going to be good (I don't). They do the same thing (at least in theory). Sign another big guy instead.

Posted by: steve | March 27, 2008 1:36 PM

If they can trade Young or Pecherov to free up space to sign Young, then I say do it. The Wiz kids have potential, but I haven't seen anything from any of them (including Blatche) to convince me they're so "can't miss" that the team should pass up an opportunity to get/keep a better/more productive player at their spots.

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 1:59 PM

"You can certainly make an argument that 'Zo was a special case, but he wasn't my only example. Why did Garnett take less money, why did Juwan Howard take less money, why did Rasheed Wallace take less money ($17m 03-04, $10m 04-05), why did Zydrunas Ilgauskas take less money ($14.6m 04-05, $9.2m 05-06)?

It seems awfully likely that it's because they were at least starting to get old for NBA players, and both sides knew they weren't going to get paid like they were still on the upswing.

Posted by: Josh | March 27, 2008 12:49 PM "

Why are you even mentioning Juwan Howard? What has he done and why shouldn't he take less money? Is he putting up 20-10 like AJ? Was he even getting off the bench?

Are either Big Z or Rasheed all stars putting up 20-10 on the offense?

KG's making 23 mil this season, but what has he won?

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 2:20 PM

It's funny how early in the season, farts on this blog were getting excited about OPech coming back from injury and helping Les BouleS out. Well, OPech has been back for a long time, and hasn't made any contributions Oh well.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 2:22 PM

they should let Mason go if the money gets big and they really think Young is going to be good (I don't). They do the same thing (at least in theory).

Posted by: steve | March 27, 2008 01:36 PM

No they don't.

Mason is a backup sg who is a 3 point specialist, and who can handle the point in a pinch.

Young is also a backup (at least at this point in his career) sg who is a natural scorer that can create his own shot.

The only thing they have in common is that they are both natural 2's. I think NY will be a starter in this league for a long time to come. I think Mason will remain a backup 3pt specialist who may even get a starting spot on some team for 2-3 years if it fits.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 27, 2008 2:36 PM

last post mine

Posted by: jones-y | March 27, 2008 2:41 PM

If you're not interested in history, I guess that's up to you, but some of these guys were bigger names than Jamison, and they put up good numbers too.

I picked these examples by looking up players whose names I recognized and who took smaller contracts after having larger ones.

Juwan Howard was as much out of a hat as any of the others, but since you asked, he averaged 18.4 points, 7.6 rebounds, and 3.0 assists in 35.5 minutes for Denver in 02-03. In 03-04, he averaged 17.0 points, 7.0 rebounds, and 2.0 assists, again in 35.5 minutes, for Orlando.

Juwan wasn't an All-Star in his contract-expiration year, but Big Z was when his contract expired in 2005. He averaged 16.9 PPG and 8.6 RPG in 04-05 in 33.5 minutes; in 05-06, under the cheaper contract, he averaged 15.6 and 7.6 in 29.3 minutes per game.

'Sheed wasn't an All-Star in his contract year - his All-Star years were 2000, 2001, and 2006 - but he averaged 13.7 PPG, 7.0 RPG, and 2.0 blocks in 30.6 minutes in 03-04, and then 14.5, 8.2, and 1.5 in 34.0 minutes, for less money, in 04-05.

I don't know what Garnett's victories have to do with the subject - as much as I love Jamison, he hasn't gotten past the second round of the playoffs.

Posted by: Josh | March 27, 2008 2:50 PM

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

University of Phoenix, DeVry Univ., Strayer U., Walden U.

You name it, those Les BouleS doctors probably got their medical degrees online!

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NOVA: Based on the players' past experiences, how would you rate the Wizards medical staff? Shaq seems to be looking good, and he has attributed his good health to the unique practices of the Suns' medical staff. Any thoughts?

Ivan Carter: That's a very hard question to answer because I'm not in the medical field and I'd have to look around the league and see how this team's injuries compare to other teams. I will say this: Arenas, Butler and Oleksiy Pecherov have all been diagnosed as having one level of injury this season only to learn later that it was worse. Arenas was cleared in October to play on that knee and then re-injured it. Butler was diagnosed as having a strained hip flexor and then later learned that it was a partial tear of the labrum and Pesh was said to have a severe ankle sprain and it wound up being called a stress fracture. That's not a good trend, I'll say that. I don't cout Etan Thomas because he pushed to be cleared to come back to practice and was told by the team athletic trainers that his sternum may not be ready. Then he went out to practice and took a shot to the sternum.

Posted by: DC Man88 | March 27, 2008 3:35 PM

Pech isn't an NBA player, he wasn't even a top Euro prospect when we drafted him. Love the guys work ethic though.

Posted by: The Facts | March 27, 2008 4:17 PM

To be able to compete with the elite teams in the East (Boston, Detroit, and Orlando), the Wiz have to get another physical big man to compliment BTH. Trading NY, Blatche and possibly AD may be necessary to get a solid veteran that could give us those 15-20 minutes we desperately need to spell AJ and Haywood. It's no coincidence we've been killed on the boards the last 2 games by bigger teams with younger legs late in the season.

If we keep NY based on his potential to be a big-time scorer, there's no point in trying to resign Mason who plays the same position. Wiz have a lot of tough offseason decisions to make and Abe is going to have to open the purse strings if he wants to try to keep AJ, Arenas, and possibly Mason. Going over the luxury cap threshold is a given if the Wiz want to keep all three and give GA a max contract.

Wiz need to make bold moves like the Celtics did last year or be content with being the 4th or 5th best team in the East.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 27, 2008 4:54 PM

BTW, the Wiz could have traded up to draft Al Thornton who was picked by the Clippers a couple slots in front of us. He would have given us a physical low post scorer, cut AJ's minutes to 35, and been groomed to be the starter if he left. The Wiz have wasted their last two No. 1's and EG should trade this year's if he is going to draft another project like Pecherov or another scorer who plays no D like NY.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 27, 2008 5:31 PM

I thought Pech was a second rounder? And last year, they drafted the player that was the best available. Yeah they probably could've traded up, but then again they could also trade GA for Elton Brand this coming offseason. lol!

Posted by: jones-y | March 27, 2008 5:43 PM

Why would the Clippers, a team in serious need of talent, have wanted to trade down? What could the the Wizards have offered the Clippers in combo with the #16 pick to interest them in making that deal?

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 6:19 PM

Why would the Clippers, a team in serious need of talent, have wanted to trade down? What could the the Wizards have offered the Clippers in combo with the #16 pick to interest them in making that deal?

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 06:19 PM

Perhaps Minnesota or Miami would be interested in Blatche + Wiz 1st Round pick (#16) + Memphis Conditional 1st Rounder...

Then the Wiz could select Derrick Rose.

OR

They could just use their own pick to choose:
Roy Hibbert, or Darren Collison (my two favorites, either of which may slip to the Wizards slot in the draft)

Posted by: Rook | March 27, 2008 6:55 PM

Rook,

We were talking about trading up in last year's draft (to get Al Thornton) not this year's.

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 9:44 PM

Yes, Songaila played well recently. But he needs to grab more rebounds. 3 rebounds in 20 minutes for someone who plays PF/C is not enough.

Posted by: Sagaliba | March 27, 2008 9:50 PM

As for this year's draft ... Minnesota and Miami are going to be picking in the top 5. There's no way they're trading down with the Wizards.

Posted by: kalorama | March 27, 2008 9:53 PM

DC Fairy88, you haven't made any contributions, either. Quit ragging on OP.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 28, 2008 2:14 AM

The doctors cleared DC Fairy88 to post here, but then he was so full of himself he choked and died.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 28, 2008 2:17 AM

Rook and Kalorama - Thornton was picked at #15, one spot ahead of the Wiz, and the Clippers were already without Sean Livingston their stud combo guard for the season. We could have traded Pecherov and offered a swap of No. 1's in 2008 to move up one spot to get Thornton. Resigning DSS and Mason makes the selection of NY look even worse since he gets uneven playing time.

EG has made no draft picks that have had any impact since he's been here (Hayes, Blatche, Pecherov, and Young). He did trade the No. 5 pick in 2004 to get AJ which was a great move because it also rid us of Stackhouse. I've been very disappointed with all of our draft picks going back to Kwame Brown.

Posted by: wizfan89 | March 28, 2008 10:26 AM

"We could have traded Pecherov and offered a swap of No. 1's in 2008 to move up one spot to get Thornton."

Livingston is a PG. Young is a shooting guard. The Clippers already have the SG spot covered more than adequately with Mobley and Maggette. Livingston's loss doesn't create a particular need for a player like Young.

Posted by: kalorama | March 28, 2008 1:25 PM

"EG has made no draft picks that have had any impact since he's been here (Hayes, Blatche, Pecherov, and Young). He did trade the No. 5 pick in 2004 to get AJ which was a great move because it also rid us of Stackhouse. I've been very disappointed with all of our draft picks going back to Kwame Brown." - wizfan

EG did not draft Hayes nor did he make the Stackhouse trade. Those moves were MJ's. As far as draft picks are concerned, what is wrong with the potential and talent of what we have considering where they were selected? NY is a definite NBA scorer at the 16th spot and a probable starter in 2/3 yrs or sooner. Pech was a real late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder (can't remember exactly) who may be Bargniani lite or perhaps a bust, but it was not a guaranteed drafting spot. Then we got both McGuire and Blatche who appear to be very talented NBA players drafted in the second round. So what is so bad about this track record? NOTHING

Just add that he signed Arenas and traded Kwame for Caron and you got one hell of a GM. He also let Hughes and Jeffries walk, which ended up well too (I know the details).

Posted by: Rob P | March 28, 2008 1:34 PM

Retract the Stackhouse trade. I should have double checked that one. It WAS EG's first move as GM of the Wiz. A nice trade too though!!!!

Posted by: Rob P | March 28, 2008 1:43 PM

Pecherov was a mid first rounder (#18) who has yet to display any real NBA game for a 7 footer.

That said, Grunfeld has a done a fine job overall remaking this team from the sludge he was given to work with. Has his every move been genius? No. But on the whole, there ain't much to complain about.

Posted by: kalorama | March 28, 2008 1:49 PM

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