Final: Cavs 116, Wizards 86.

Ivan's on deadline -- and likely dealing with some grumpy Washington players and coaches -- so we'll just post the final score and ask this: what the heck was that?

Cleveland, best known in the NBA postseason for choking to the Bulls, set a franchise record for margin of victory in a playoff game. As Tom Withers writes in his early AP game story:

It may be time for Plan B.

Vent your spleen below ...

By washingtonpost.com Sports Editor |  April 21, 2008; 10:22 PM ET
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Gilbert needs to keep quiet and sit on the bench. What happened to the guy before the playoffs that was playing within the offense and setting up teammates. Now the offense starts and stops with him.

Posted by: Ryan | April 21, 2008 10:31 PM

I thought Cleveland was best know in the postseason for dominating the Wiz. Oh well.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2008 10:31 PM

This game pissed me off. Never have I seen the wizards choke at every level of the game

Posted by: Alex | April 21, 2008 10:32 PM

Truly, the one thing that is seared into my mind is not the blow out loss, or the total loss of composure by my home team, but the shot by Damon Jones at the end of the game with Cleveland up by 20+ points. When Damon jones drained that three pointer and began making fun of Deshawn Stevenson, and then Lebron jumped off the bench laughing and imitated Deshawn as well, that really set me off. I can't believe that Lebron is thought of so highly nationally, internationally, etc and yet he is so thoroughly classless. To be beating a team by 20 points and then to make fun of them at the end leaves me speechless. I know no major news outlet will pick that up b/c everyone thinks so highly of lebron, but in my mind, i will NEVER cheer for lebron and i will always cheer against him (and i live in Cleveland!)

Posted by: Vobiwan | April 21, 2008 10:32 PM

That was some of the worst decision-making, hustle, and execution I've ever seen in a 40 minute span. It looked like it was going to be another good game and then... wow. Arenas appeared to lose his heart, Stevenson has clearly lost his mind, and Antawn's the only one playing ball.

I'm ok with the "hard foul" plan, but it's not effective--LeBron's built like a linebacker--and it's making us look like thugs (see Haywood). What's worse is that EJ announced it. I'm not sure why everyone here is so shocked to see fouls called... it seems the cat's out of the bag.

Posted by: District Sleeps Alone | April 21, 2008 10:33 PM

pathetic group of immature losers. quickly becoming the joke of the NBA. way to go guys. i certainly hope everyone watched the Caps instead - a team that actually has heart and don't embarrass themselves and their fans who support them. i'm over this group of players. blow it up please. not kidding.

Posted by: what a joke | April 21, 2008 10:34 PM

@ Vobiwan:

... I'd have to disagree if you contend DS didn't have it coming. That guy's an idiot. Regardless of James' youth, he's shown a ton of composure not getting baited into doing something dumb (dumber than the elbow in game 1, anyhow). Let him taunt when he's ahead; it's the taunts when you're down by 16 I don't approve of.

Posted by: District Sleeps Alone | April 21, 2008 10:36 PM

Damn, this loss was so bad even Ivan couldn't bear to blog tonight!

Posted by: C.Bell | April 21, 2008 10:40 PM

Vobiwan - the fact of the matter is that Deshawn was the one who did that move first when down by 20. He hit a meaningless 3 and did his little move. No wonder Deshawn and Drew Gooden are such good friends. They both live on another planet and have lost all sense of reality. I am a Clevelander as well and have a lot of respect for a lot of players on the Wizards, especially Butler and Jamison. However most of the "classless acts" so far have been perpetrated from the Washington side. Again, the series is far from over. If things continue to go down the way things have been though, the Wizards seriously have to look at doing something with Stevenson.

Posted by: Hondo17 | April 21, 2008 10:44 PM

i have no idea what to say whatsoever. all i know is that we got owned, we shot an extremely low percentage from the start, and lebron didnt even have to turn it on before the blowout. i hope we still got it, best wiz team in a long time if u ask me.

Posted by: WIZFAN | April 21, 2008 10:44 PM

if gil winces like that after every jumper then this is going to be a short series... caron needs to get around wally...jamison needs to make shots... and can we please play a game with our starting center? is that too much to ask refs?

Posted by: CreditZard | April 21, 2008 10:44 PM

Time to blow it up. No heart, no toughness, no defense. Arenas is nothing more than a flake. He doesn't deserve max money. I'd let him walk, resign Jamison to come off the bench and build around Butler, Young and Blatche.

Posted by: garg8050 | April 21, 2008 10:46 PM

Really? Its the taunts when you're the toast of the game that I disapprove of. It's classless.
That's my problem w/ LeBron. (besides the fact that his game is predicated on running through people). He's widely considered one of the two best players of the game, he has unbelievable physical gifts, but he behaves like a baby on the court; whining, making faces, taunting; it's just pretty lame... If he thinks hes a king why doesn't he act like a man?
That and being a Yankees fan from Ohio.

Posted by: LeBully | April 21, 2008 10:52 PM

I saw tons of over the back no-calls (loose ball fouls) that resulted in offensive rebounds and 2nd and 3rd shot opportunities for the Cavs. The officiating was horrendous. Haywood is our only force inside because Caron and Antawn choose to mainly shoot J's. Hopefully some home cooking and a HYPED Verizon Center crowd can get the Wiz back into this. Right now, its lookin' real ugly.

Posted by: G$ | April 21, 2008 10:55 PM

That said, when Cleveland shoots......BOX OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: G$ | April 21, 2008 10:56 PM

I like the guy personally, but Eddie Jordan can't get the job done. He's had ample talent to go deep into the playoffs every year (with the exception of last b/c of injuries), but here we stand at the precipice in April again. Time to move on.

Posted by: Danno | April 21, 2008 10:59 PM

i think its time to break up the team, and the only keeper is "butler". this team suck, they talk alot of trash but never got things done,its just flustrated that i don't feel like watching them anymore

i think arenas might have hurt the team rather than help since he came back

Posted by: ak47 | April 21, 2008 11:00 PM

trade arenas for Brand or trade him for a high pick so we can select derek Rose and have money to sign other guy, i'm sick and tired of his mouth already!

Posted by: ak47 | April 21, 2008 11:02 PM

"He's had ample talent to go deep into the playoffs every year"

Really? Then I must have been in a walking blackout for the past few years because i don't remember him ever having that kind of talent. I remember him having a nonathletic, jumpshooting team with no reliable interior presence, a negligible to nonexistent bench, and no players with a tough defensive mindset.

Posted by: kalorama | April 21, 2008 11:04 PM

@ LeBully:

I agree, as far as timing of taunts go, there's really no "classy" time. I just think that, as far as basic sense goes, it's just idiotic to taunt when trailing by so large a margin. In LeBron's defense, Damon Jones did the taunt (he's a DS-brand moron), James was merely laughing along, aping him. I love the Wiz, but I think all this cutting down on LeBron is a tad much. He's arguably the best player in the NBA right now and his conduct on and off the floor is on par with MJ and, again arguably (though not too arguably), better than Kobe. Sure he whines, but so did Jordan and so does Bryant. It's easy to put on the rose-colored glasses when thinking of MJ, but the fact is that he was one of the biggest asses on the court (just ask his teammate, Scott Skiles). Anyway, until we can figure out a way to stop him, running through people or however, I think we should show a little respect for someone who just continually beats us. Now I must go and wash myself... I feel dirty.

Posted by: District Sleeps Alone | April 21, 2008 11:04 PM

I love it when people propose ridiculously unrealistic trade, FA, and draft scenarios.

Posted by: kalorama | April 21, 2008 11:06 PM

The Refs were bad as usual, Verajo did the same thing as haywood except he swatted @ the head, i also loved the ticky tack hand check foul called on Butler, thought that was comical. I think refs effected game 1 more than this one tho. The team played with no heart, Jamison should be torching Ben Wallace but constantly misses open shots, Caron Butler must still be hurt because mid season Caron blows by Wally with ease. Gil doesnt look the same still, no explosion to the hoop. We need to give Nick Young some more run if we have trouble scoring and honestly, i think Brendon Haywood is the only player on our squad who has consistently showed up. Last-I hate when lebron grabs his mouth like it hurts and also announcer referred to his doing the Cant See Me in game 1 as playfull poking fun. LeTravel Bias

Posted by: Jstack42 | April 21, 2008 11:06 PM

The Wizards have achieved the unthinkable... waking up the hibernating Cavaliers (at least for the first round). The Cavs lacked all conviction until meeting these Beltway wonders in the playoffs. Many thanks!

Posted by: NWS | April 21, 2008 11:07 PM

i tried to warn ya about dstink, but you didnt wanna hear it. and ejs coaching is simply, in my best bill walton,
H O R R I B L E.
maybe ej should watch a jazz game if he wants to see some blood and guts coaching.
jerry sloan is a master. that team plays hard.
not soft.
HARD.

Posted by: dk | April 21, 2008 11:10 PM

"...choking to Chicago"? Cleveland was supposed to beat Michael Jordan and the Bulls? I didn't know that. Wow, no one knew that. I guess Jordan wasn't that great afterall, it was just the Cavs choking.

Washington Post, with all the journalistic history, hires fanboys to run their blog. Nice.

What a joke.

Posted by: Dunbar | April 21, 2008 11:11 PM

What's really sad is that last season when our 2 top scorers (and best players) were injured and out, we never got owned like this! We were competitive and the losses were understood since we were missing players.

We were blown out tonight and I honestly do not see how the Wiz can recover. That was a beat down of the worst kind.

That being said, Lebron is totally classless and always has been. He played that foul by Haywood to the hilt....several of our players were hit hard but did they get respect? No...a thousand times no. And every time Lebron was fouled he touched his mouth like someone had hit him there...what a farce.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:11 PM

So what exactly is Plan B?

Or is it to purposefully injure LeBron James?

Posted by: EV | April 21, 2008 11:15 PM

Ivan, maybe the Wiz should wear different uniforms for Game 3....just a thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:15 PM

It's not over. And even if it is, it beats having to live in Cleveland. (But it's not over.)

Posted by: Irene Pollin | April 21, 2008 11:15 PM

yea yea yea we get it. we all hate freakin james. but the wiz completely sucked 2night. and ej was helpless and thats really really sad. this act is gettin old real fast.

Posted by: dk | April 21, 2008 11:16 PM

This game wasnt Eddie Jordans fault, the entire team played with no hustle or energy. Id rather this than a 1 point loss tho, maybe the team will respond to having everyone talk trash about them. Game 3 is Must Win

Posted by: jstack42 | April 21, 2008 11:17 PM

I'm done with this team, tired of wasting my time watching them, I actually turned my tv off before the end of the 1st quarter, I knew they didn't have it in them. They are worse than .500, they're a .375 team, at best. They don't have what it takes to win big games and hold on to leads. I had two floor seats to game 3, I'm putting them ebay now.

Posted by: Tony | April 21, 2008 11:19 PM

@Irene

I've been to DC, you got no room to be knocking any other town.

Posted by: EV | April 21, 2008 11:20 PM

Lebron James classless ? Sounds like some other losers comment ( overated )

Posted by: lebronze fan | April 21, 2008 11:20 PM

Worse than game 6 two years ago when Lebron got in Gil's head...How does Clevland exploit every advantage on offense over the wiz and washington end up having arenas try to post up James?
Does not matter how well Wizards played without Arenas during regular season, Jordan does not know how to sit him when he is clearly killing the team. Anybody notice how many jump balls the wizards have lost in two games?

Posted by: Scott A | April 21, 2008 11:25 PM

There's still time to recover, but I'm skeptical at this point. Basketball's so much a game of match-ups and we don't match up well against Cleveland for some reason. Beat Boston 3 out of 4 times this year. Good match-ups there. It doesn't look to me like Washington knows how to get good shot selection against Cleveland's defense. You can't keep losing in the first round to the same team every year without making some moves. I don't think this is Jordan's fault. Time to shake up the roster, and try again, I'm afraid. Unless these guys get their act in gear and pull off a miracle in the remaining games.

Posted by: olav | April 21, 2008 11:26 PM

lebron is a total punk on every level, a whiny, cry baby, drama queen - the way he would grab his mouth like he'd been punched in the face when he wasn't touched, the total flop job on the flagrant foul that wasn't nearly as egregious as verajao's foul on blatche, the non-stop whining and complaining when anyone dare touches him or God forbid a foul's is called on him, acting like he's above trash talking even though he talks more trash than anyone. The whole poor victim me act - the taunting, the nail biting, the stupid little dance he does when he makes a layup - he's a classless punk - I despise him on every level.

The Wiz did not deserve to win this game at all, they were completely out of control and didn't execute at all - they were out hustled, out played and looked sloppy, lazy and totally clueless - I'm disgusted with lecrybaby and the pathetic officiating - Haywood's ejection was a joke ...I'm incredibly disappointed with the Wiz ...

Posted by: tommy knocker | April 21, 2008 11:29 PM

Two down,two to go!I lived in the District when Golden State beat the Bullets.All I heard was whining and excuses.Do people in this town ever except the fact that they got their ass beat?If Cleveland choked against the Bulls,than a whole lot of other teams choked to.We had talent,but we just couldn't beat them in the play offs.Washington has a lot of talent,more than we do,but for some reason the Cavaliers seem to have the Wizards number.

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 21, 2008 11:36 PM

We have to realized Lebron learned alot in the finals last year when they got sweep by the Spurs. His B Ball IQ is much highter this year when the Wizards face him with Caron and Gil. You see those guys miss that playoff experince when they was hurt last year and I guess they though it was the same Lebron 2 years ago and now they know he's a much better player. You can tell that they didnt learn anything because Deshawn had a terrible series last year and he is following up with another bad series. Lets keep it real this team is not a contender yet because our B ball IQ is not there yet and the only way to get there is to make it to the playoffs and learn from it. We have more talent then the Cavs, but everybody on that team knows there job and with us we try to do too much one on one. I wasv very disappointed with dirty play on our part and that tells me we are not ready for the next level. Dont break up the team its a solid team, maybe the little light may come on and they will figure it out how good they are. Anything is possible Haywood is playing better.

Posted by: Rock Star | April 21, 2008 11:38 PM

TommyKnocker,

Dude, LeCryBaby whipped your whole team tonight. LeCry about that.

Posted by: The Dude | April 21, 2008 11:39 PM

Watching Rockets/Jazz. Man, i still can't beleive the Wiz took Pecherov over Millsap.

Posted by: kalorama | April 21, 2008 11:44 PM

Gilbert needs to keep quiet and sit on the bench. What happened to the guy before the playoffs that was playing within the offense and setting up teammates. Now the offense starts and stops with him.

Posted by: Ryan | April 21, 2008 10:31 PM


It was all Gilby's fault. Jamison had a great Game. Butler had a great game. The role players had a great game. Gilby is the only one that played bad for the Wiz. We need to get rid of him because it's always his fault.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2008 11:44 PM

To whom it may concern:

On behalf of the entire Cleveland Cavaliers organization, I would like to extend a sincere apology to all Wizards fans for the beatdown that was just laid upon the Washington Wizards. Even after all the childish trash-talking perpetrated by the Wizards before the series (in particular Gaygent Zero and DeSoulja Boy Stevenson), that was still a particularly cruel and in some ways inhumane whipping of your home team.

It just wasn't right what the Cavs did to you all!

LOL

GO CAVS!!!

Posted by: CAVS OWN WIZARDS | April 21, 2008 11:45 PM

I thought Cleveland was best know in the postseason for dominating the Wiz. Oh well.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 10:31 PM

My mistake, Cleveland is known for not winning any type of Championships for over 40 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:45 PM

Hey, you don't have to believe the Wiz fan's that LeBron gets treated different than others.

Reggie Miller:

"If it was any other player, Haywood would probably not have been ejected."

He went on to point out that a couple of Wizards had been fouled hard albeit with more of a play on the ball, but also more of a blow to the head. It should have been a Flagrant 1, which does not result in an automatic ejection, Ivan.

"That was not a playoff foul. That was a ticky tack regular season foul."

Referring to the hand touching on LeBron as he started backing Caron down. Comical!

Also, somewhat unrelated, but kind of an important call in the game was Haywood's second foul early. An absolute phantom call. I rewound and watched it 3 times and Haywood did absolutely NOTHING! I think his jersey might have touched Z as Z grabbed the rebound. We can't do a thing on the boards against Cleveland without Haywood. I think this is where we miss Etan Thomas!

Posted by: Rob P | April 21, 2008 11:48 PM

trade arenas for Brand or trade him for a high pick so we can select derek Rose and have money to sign other guy, i'm sick and tired of his mouth already!

Posted by: ak47 | April 21, 2008 11:02 PM

I agree. It was all Gilby's fault. Jamison had a great Game. Butler had a great game. The role players had a great game. Gilby is the only one that played bad for the Wiz. We need to get rid of him because it's always his fault.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 21, 2008 11:49 PM

Gutless!! Gutless!! Gutless!! The Wizards are a team of jump shooters! No defense, no hustle, no rebounding!! Did you see how pi$$ed off Ernie Grunfeld looked? I don't think Isiah and the Knicks would have looked this bad. Barkley nailed it when he said the Wizards are the dumbest team in sports.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:50 PM

lebron is a total punk on every level, a whiny, cry baby, drama queen - the way he would grab his mouth like he'd been punched in the face when he wasn't touched, the total flop job on the flagrant foul that wasn't nearly as egregious as verajao's foul on blatche, the non-stop whining and complaining when anyone dare touches him or God forbid a foul's is called on him, acting like he's above trash talking even though he talks more trash than anyone. The whole poor victim me act - the taunting, the nail biting, the stupid little dance he does when he makes a layup - he's a classless punk - I despise him on every level.

The Wiz did not deserve to win this game at all, they were completely out of control and didn't execute at all - they were out hustled, out played and looked sloppy, lazy and totally clueless - I'm disgusted with lecrybaby and the pathetic officiating - Haywood's ejection was a joke ...I'm incredibly disappointed with the Wiz ...

Posted by: tommy knocker | April 21, 2008 11:29 PM

Post of the year. My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Adam | April 21, 2008 11:51 PM

The performance tonight by the Wizards was a joke. How stupid can you get, Eddie? You trap LeBron, shut off the baseline and have him shoot j's or pass off to someone else. At this point, you have to live and die with that. It's obvious LeBron is going to the free throw pretty much every time he goes to the hole (we need some committed team defense). Also, by now it's obvious that we have terrible shot selection. Look up the stats if you don't believe me. DeShawn was below 40% for the season which is the kind of crap that doesn't belong in the NBA (but lo and behold, his 1-9 performances have continued in the playoffs and to make it even worse, he only shoots 3s). Caron is playing very passively right now and not playing like he has all season. Antawn, love your hustle and tenacity but you can take Big Ben off the dribble so why do you let him off by taking unnecessary threes (though, he is the only one that has come to play so far). I wish Gilbert played more like D-Wade in his scoring mentality (limit the threes, take it to the hole, go to the FT line and get the bigs in foul trouble- look at the disparity in FT attempts between the Cavs and us through the first two games). By now, I am starting to think it wouldn't hurt to give Nick Young some minutes (it's true he makes mistakes, but he also gives you that raw scoring ability from the bench which is definitely what the Wiz need because the bench is not scoring right now). If the Wiz lose this series, the front office should consider the possibility of not re-signing Gil (have you noticed the defense suffers when he is on the court and furthermore we still don't know how he will bounce back from the injury over the course of a full season). Man, I wish we had more of a post presence (Big Z is really helping them by creating second-chance points and he kills with his back-breaking mid-rangers. For Game 3, the Wiz have to do anything to keep LeBron out of the paint as much as possible, box out for rebounds, get Butler going, and have better shot selection and move the ball around (this will go a long way in coming back in this series). I would like to congratulate the Caps on their Game 6 win (way to go guys, you play with heart and passion), now I just hope the Wiz come out and do the same in the next game.

Posted by: Nasir | April 21, 2008 11:52 PM

@Irene

I've been to DC, you got no room to be knocking any other town.

Posted by: EV | April 21, 2008 11:20 PM

Well not any town but you can knock a town that hasn't won anything over 40 years.

Posted by: EV | April 21, 2008 11:52 PM

To TommyKnocker and all the other LeBron haters here in the MD/DC/VA area-

Y'all need to form some kind of therapy group or something because to me it looks like you guys are hating on LeBron so much you can't see the truth. He gets a bunch of calls but so did MJ - get over it!! LJ is no question one of the top talents in the NBA and every player on the Wizards except DScrub would tell you so!

The Wiz are a good team with a lot of talent but they are not their best in a physical blood and guts series. It's not only the matchup against the Cavs they need to worry about, it's the fact they play bad D against mediocre players. One great player is enough to beat a team with bad defense.

Posted by: AJRich | April 21, 2008 11:54 PM

Two down,two to go!I lived in the District when Golden State beat the Bullets.All I heard was whining and excuses.Do people in this town ever except the fact that they got their ass beat?If Cleveland choked against the Bulls,than a whole lot of other teams choked to.We had talent,but we just couldn't beat them in the play offs.Washington has a lot of talent,more than we do,but for some reason the Cavaliers seem to have the Wizards number.

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 21, 2008 11:36 PM


40 years down without any championships, 40 more to go

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 21, 2008 11:54 PM

Let me just be clear to those who did not read my other posts.

The refs were not WHY we lost the game! Period.

But, to deny LeBron, MJ, and others get special treatment from NBA refs is to not live in reality!

Oh, Reggie Miller was also ALL OVER Z and his constant traveling, which he was called for ONCE, but could have been called for 2/3 times at least. I thought that was pretty funny commentating by Reggie.

Posted by: Rob P | April 21, 2008 11:55 PM

TommyKnocker,

Dude, LeCryBaby whipped your whole team tonight. LeCry about that.

Posted by: The Dude | April 21, 2008 11:39 PM

I just saw a stat that my city hasn't won anything for over 40 years. Now i can't stop LeCrying.

Posted by: The Dude | April 21, 2008 11:55 PM

A punk? That statement says a lot about bitterness.How do you explane what he is able to do as a player.I remember Jordon went through the same thing.He had other players hate him so much that a group of players got together and froze him out in a all star game.Other team had what they call,The Jordon Rules.They would knock him on his ass every time he drove the lane.When he complain he was call a punk,cry baby.I remember Elven Hays use to cry all the time,he would go so far as to blame other team mates in public for not winning.Yeah the Big E....Long Live The KING!

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 21, 2008 11:56 PM

RE:I thought Cleveland was best know in the postseason for dominating the Wiz. Oh well.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 10:31 PM
My mistake, Cleveland is known for not winning any type of Championships for over 40 years.

****

Actually, when was the last time there was a championship team in Washington?

Posted by: Arlington | April 21, 2008 11:59 PM

To whom it may concern:

On behalf of the entire Cleveland Cavaliers organization, I would like to extend a sincere apology to all Wizards fans for the beatdown that was just laid upon the Washington Wizards. Even after all the childish trash-talking perpetrated by the Wizards before the series (in particular Gaygent Zero and DeSoulja Boy Stevenson), that was still a particularly cruel and in some ways inhumane whipping of your home team.

It just wasn't right what the Cavs did to you all!

LOL

GO CAVS!!!

Posted by: CAVS OWN WIZARDS | April 21, 2008 11:45 PM

To the city that hasn't won a Championship in 40 years,

On behalf of all Sports fans, we would like to extend a sincere apology to all Cleveland fans for not being able to win ANYTHING in over 40 years. We know that's pretty pathetic but will try to have some sympathy.

Go Cleveland, we are pulling for ya!!!

Posted by: Cleveland wants some sympathy | April 22, 2008 12:00 AM

"My mistake, Cleveland is known for not winning any type of Championships for over 40 years."

..because 30 years is much better?

Posted by: Paul | April 22, 2008 12:00 AM

Be a man,don't use my name.

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 22, 2008 12:05 AM

A punk? That statement says a lot about bitterness.How do you explane what he is able to do as a player.I remember Jordon went through the same thing.He had other players hate him so much that a group of players got together and froze him out in a all star game.Other team had what they call,The Jordon Rules.They would knock him on his ass every time he drove the lane.When he complain he was call a punk,cry baby.I remember Elven Hays use to cry all the time,he would go so far as to blame other team mates in public for not winning.Yeah the Big E....Long Live The KING!

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 21, 2008 11:56 PM

Long live the 40 year DROUGHT!!!

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 22, 2008 12:06 AM

"My mistake, Cleveland is known for not winning any type of Championships for over 40 years."

..because 30 years is much better?

Posted by: Paul | April 22, 2008 12:00 AM

Redskins won 3 (count em) Super Bowls - and that was not 30 years ago.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:06 AM

A punk? That statement says a lot about bitterness.How do you explane what he is able to do as a player.I remember Jordon went through the same thing.He had other players hate him so much that a group of players got together and froze him out in a all star game.Other team had what they call,The Jordon Rules.They would knock him on his ass every time he drove the lane.When he complain he was call a punk,cry baby.I remember Elven Hays use to cry all the time,he would go so far as to blame other team mates in public for not winning.Yeah the Big E....Long Live The KING!

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 21, 2008 11:56 PM


Long live the 40 year DROUGHT!!!

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 22, 2008 12:07 AM

Be a man,don't use my name.

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 22, 2008 12:05 AM

Nevermind, i'm not a man or real a fan. That's why I am on your site.

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 22, 2008 12:09 AM

It's a weak sauce argument Paul, but the Cleveland baiter is banking on the fact that Clevetown as a city is pretty much bereft of sports championships in the modern era.

Sure, it's been 30 years since the aberration that was the Bullets championship run, but the argument would be that the Redskins won a championship less than 20 years ago, as if that makes any of us feel better about our local sports franchises.

Posted by: Gack | April 22, 2008 12:10 AM

"My mistake, Cleveland is known for not winning any type of Championships for over 40 years."

..because 30 years is much better?

Posted by: Paul | April 22, 2008 12:00 AM

Redskins won 3 (count em) Super Bowls - and that was not 30 years ago.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:06 AM


Even DC's United won some Championships this decade. MD Terrapins won this decade too. Man being a cleveland fan is more pathetic than I thought

Posted by: maarafuojo | April 22, 2008 12:11 AM

"Lebron controlled the game, he's head and shoulders above a lot of people and sometimes he looks like a man playing among boys. He controlled the game with his intensity, with his leadership and with his play-making and just his presence."

"So he just took hold of [the game] and just ran with it."

Posted by: Eddie Jordan | April 22, 2008 12:11 AM

It's a weak sauce argument Paul, but the Cleveland baiter is banking on the fact that Clevetown as a city is pretty much bereft of sports championships in the modern era.

Sure, it's been 30 years since the aberration that was the Bullets championship run, but the argument would be that the Redskins won a championship less than 20 years ago, as if that makes any of us feel better about our local sports franchises.

Posted by: Gack | April 22, 2008 12:10 AM


OK, you caught me. i'm a pathetic Cleveland Fan trying to act like a DC fan

Posted by: Gack | April 22, 2008 12:12 AM

LOL at the pathetic clevleand fans on this board defending their whiny, crybaby, drama queen, ref protected bully - the Wiz stink - the cavs beat them silly - why are you here defending that classless punk - go to your own blogs and enjoy the last reminants of sports glory in your miserable lives - lebron wears YANKEES hats to a cleveland game and you slobber all over him like he gives a crap about your fans - he will opt out, go to new york and come back to cleveland every year and take great pleasure in beating your starless team silly - mark my words - as soon as he leaves cleveland in the dust you will see what the rest of us see -a super star capable of doing great things with the basketball, but incapable of one ounce of class or humility - you will hate him as much as the rest of the world

Posted by: Jonesing | April 22, 2008 12:12 AM

Holy crap. That stank. The worst thing I've watched in years. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible on every level. The Wiz in no way deserved this game, but I am still in shock that Haywood was ejected for that foul. I'd live with the flagrant 1, but the flagrant 2? C'mon! This is what we get when our coach tells the media his plan is to foul "the King."

It amazes me that a team that can beat the Celts three times can lay such an enormous egg. I'm in total shock.

Posted by: Lou | April 22, 2008 12:13 AM

For all of you who were happy we were playing Cleveland (again) in the playoffs - how do you feel now?

I wish we had played Orlando (or even Boston or Detroit)....even if we lost to the Magic, Dwight Howard is a classy guy...someone to admire...unlike that Cavalier player who is talented but arrogant and cocky and actually refers to himself as "King"

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:13 AM

Lou, what is even worse is that Haywood most likely will be suspended for Game 3....bet on it. Thanks for nothing, David Stern!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:14 AM

"Y'all need to form some kind of therapy group or something because to me it looks like you guys are hating on LeBron so much you can't see the truth. He gets a bunch of calls but so did MJ - get over it!!" - AJ

Huh??? I'm dumbfounded. You say we need to "see the truth" and then you admit LeBaby gets "a bunch of calls". That makes no sense. Who cares if MJ got calls to? That does not make our point that LeBaby gets calls invalid.

I actually think the Wiz will be so embarrassed that they will pull out game 3, but I don't see us winning the series anymore. I want to see leadership from CB and serious intensity. Jamison is playing the best, but even he was not as intense this game as he was say during that last game against Boston where he was possessed.

Whoever pointed out that the strategy of fouling LeBaby is stupid is very right. Nice point! The real strategy should be to keep him from penetrating, period. Play off him and turn him into a jump shooter with SOME early doubling. Although Arenas' and other's attempts to double are so telegraphed, slow, and poorly executed that LeBron constantly picks it apart with ease. Not enough intensity all the way around!

Posted by: Rob P | April 22, 2008 12:14 AM

My mistake, Cleveland is known for not winning any type of Championships for over 40 years.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 11:45 PM

Yeah, that too. Does it make you feel better to be owned by a city that hasn't won anything? Are you still celebrating Super Bowl XXVI? Is there any chance of a championship in Washington any time soon? Cleveland is a city that's been losing for 40 years, and yet the Cavs are better than the Wizards, the Browns are better than the Redskins, and Indians are better than the Nats. Stand tall Washington. Your football was good 20 years ago.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:14 AM

"Man being a cleveland fan is more pathetic than I thought.."

Good point, Maarafuojo. Going off-topic on an unrelated sport in a basketball blog just so you can console yourself.

..what is the name of this blog.. i could have sworn it says wizard's insider.. what sport are we talking about... hmm...

Posted by: Paul | April 22, 2008 12:16 AM

My mistake, Cleveland is known for not winning any type of Championships for over 40 years.

Posted by: | April 21, 2008 11:45 PM

Yeah, that too. Does it make you feel better to be owned by a city that hasn't won anything? Are you still celebrating Super Bowl XXVI? Is there any chance of a championship in Washington any time soon? Cleveland is a city that's been losing for 40 years, and yet the Cavs are better than the Wizards, the Browns are better than the Redskins, and Indians are better than the Nats. Stand tall Washington. Your football was good 20 years ago.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:14 AM


I take it back, it is pathetic that none of the teams I listed above could anything for 40+ years. Even DC's damn soccer team won championships this decade. I'm trying to make myself feel better by comparing each of my team to DC's team. Man Cleveland is pathetic.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:18 AM

"the Browns are better than the Redskins" -you must be kidding, right? The Redskins made the playoffs 2 out of the last 4 years and the Browns made the playoffs....when???? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:21 AM

Whoever the Cleveland troll-baiter ought to google this blog's archives if he thinks I'm really an incognito Cavs fan.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2007/02/billups_fix_the_allstar_game_n.html

You may search for "Gack" or "Queen LeTravel" ;)

Posted by: Gack | April 22, 2008 12:24 AM

Citing a 40 year championship drought in Cleveland doesn't in any way diminish from the fact that the Wizards still trail in the series by two games. I hope your (brilliant, I'm sure) discussions of other teams' lack of championships will keep you and your friends occupied for the month of May while this 40-year loser is playing basketball.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:24 AM

"the Browns are better than the Redskins" -you must be kidding, right? The Redskins made the playoffs 2 out of the last 4 years and the Browns made the playoffs....when???? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:21 AM


Now that i think about it you make a good point. The Browns missed the playoffs even though we played in a weak division with 4 games against the sorry Bengals and Ravens.

Let me tell you how pathetic it is in cleveland. Even our football team bailed on us to be closer to DC in Baltimore. The original Browns realized how pathetic Cleveland is. Now that's a slap in the face.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:24 AM

@ anon 12:13/12:14 am

"I wish we had played Orlando (or even Boston or Detroit)....even if we lost to the Magic, Dwight Howard is a classy guy...someone to admire...unlike that Cavalier player who is talented but arrogant and cocky and actually refers to himself as "King"

Absolutely great post. Who refers to themselves as "King"? What the hell has he won? If Haywood is suspended for game 3, there is a legit conspiracy theory there. Okur had a MUCH worse foul in game one of the Utah series and did not get suspended. On a dirty scale, Haywood's foul was a 4/5 where Okur's was a 10

Jonesy, your post was right on point as well.

Posted by: Rob P | April 22, 2008 12:25 AM

Oh, and, for what it's worth (about as much as mentions of any past championship), the Cleveland Crunch were perennial indoor soccer national champs through the 1990s.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:26 AM

Citing a 40 year championship drought in Cleveland doesn't in any way diminish from the fact that the Wizards still trail in the series by two games. I hope your (brilliant, I'm sure) discussions of other teams' lack of championships will keep you and your friends occupied for the month of May while this 40-year loser is playing basketball.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:24 AM

I must be dumb. How could I possibly think it is better to be up in a series 2-0 than not win anything over 40 years. Let me correct myself. It sucks being in a city without any championships. I was correct in saying "40 year old loser" though

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:27 AM

"the Browns are better than the Redskins" -you must be kidding, right? The Redskins made the playoffs 2 out of the last 4 years and the Browns made the playoffs....when???? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:21 AM

Cleveland Browns 10 6
Washington Redskins 9 7

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:27 AM

instead of whining & making excuses, why don't you washington fans try to do something more constructive like focusing some energy into the upcoming games at your place. Cleveland did what they were supposed to do - they protected their home court.

I wouldnt mind seeing some better basketball coming from DC - It's boring to watch a 30-pt blowout for us Cleveland fans too you know.

And to anyone that has something to say about how you should behave when you are up 20+ points in the playoffs.... It's the effen playoffs; if you are getting beat down by 30+ in the playoffs, that's your own problem; and the only remaining question is whether or not you belong here.

Bring it on girls.

PS- as for the 40 year thing... anyone blogging on here that is old enough to remember sports championships from 40 years ago is a total loser.

Posted by: Lebron4President2008 | April 22, 2008 12:28 AM

"We're playing the champions and I know they changed their team but they still have the same coaching staff and they got the -in the respectful way- the monster player and he's taking over."

"He's taking over the series."

Posted by: Eddie Jordan | April 22, 2008 12:28 AM

'Basketball's so much a game of match-ups and we don't match up well against Cleveland for some reason.'
Posted by: olav

Absolutely. Clevelnad is too big for 'em for one thing. Z is a tough match up for 'em though Brendan gives him a battle. Wallace keeps Jamison off the boards. And that Verijou kills 'em when he's in there. And obviously they have no answer for Lebron. That's beyond obvious. After a couple of fouls, Brendan, who's their only answer size-wise, is out of there and Blatche can't handle any of it at the rim. On offense, Cleveland is tenacious on the perimeter and at the same time has that size to challange at the rim. Before you know it, they stop moving the ball around and it's a bunch of threes. On defense, this foolishness of trying to double LeBron way out at near mid-court to get the ball out of his hands, when he just then looks over the top of the double-team for an assist is ridiculous. It's like he's playing against teenagers.

I'm hoping for a change but I don't know about this deal.

Posted by: Fenderdeluxe | April 22, 2008 12:29 AM

Oh, and, for what it's worth (about as much as mentions of any past championship), the Cleveland Crunch were perennial indoor soccer national champs through the 1990s.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:26 AM


See how pathetic Cleveland is. I had to resort to referencing a indoor soccer league. I hope you guys don't think I'm even more pathetic now. Boy was that a mistake to point that out.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:29 AM

Cleveland Fan:

Your not-so-subtle trolling/baiting is the one type of post that's actually making me feel all right about posting on a rival team's blog. Anyone who impersonates a rival to troll for oneself is clearly many times more bored/lonely/disturbed than I am. Thank you.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:29 AM

I must be dumb. How could I possibly think it is better to be up in a series 2-0 than not win anything over 40 years. Let me correct myself. It sucks being in a city without any championships. I was correct in saying "40 year old loser" though

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:27 AM

How does it feel to get your ass kicked by losers every year?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:29 AM

"PS- as for the 40 year thing... anyone blogging on here that is old enough to remember sports championships from 40 years ago is a total loser"

Well, either that or they are, you know, OLD.

Posted by: Gack | April 22, 2008 12:29 AM

instead of whining & making excuses, why don't you washington fans try to do something more constructive like focusing some energy into the upcoming games at your place. Cleveland did what they were supposed to do - they protected their home court.

I wouldnt mind seeing some better basketball coming from DC - It's boring to watch a 30-pt blowout for us Cleveland fans too you know.

And to anyone that has something to say about how you should behave when you are up 20+ points in the playoffs.... It's the effen playoffs; if you are getting beat down by 30+ in the playoffs, that's your own problem; and the only remaining question is whether or not you belong here.

Bring it on girls.

PS- as for the 40 year thing... anyone blogging on here that is old enough to remember sports championships from 40 years ago is a total loser.

Posted by: Lebron4President2008 | April 22, 2008 12:28 AM

It's boring going over 40 years without any championships. I'm trying to make myself feel better and justify it, by saying you shouldn't remember something 40 years ago. Are you buying it or do I look more pathetic?

Posted by: Lebron4OptingOut2009 | April 22, 2008 12:32 AM

Actually, ignore my previous comments (12:29). My new personal favorite is to quote another person and then impersonate that person at the same time. This is in fact more bizarre a practice than I had previously imagined possible. Who said the Internet was a cultural black hole?

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:32 AM

I must be dumb. How could I possibly think it is better to be up in a series 2-0 than not win anything over 40 years. Let me correct myself. It sucks being in a city without any championships. I was correct in saying "40 year old loser" though

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:27 AM

How does it feel to get your ass kicked by losers every year?


Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:29 AM

I'm sure it doesn't feel as bad as having a 40 year drought!

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:33 AM

Actually, ignore my previous comments (12:29). My new personal favorite is to quote another person and then impersonate that person at the same time. This is in fact more bizarre a practice than I had previously imagined possible. Who said the Internet was a cultural black hole?

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:32 AM


My other favorite is to surf and blog on other cities' websites, since my city is pathetic. Who said that Cleveland was a sports town?

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:35 AM

To those that want to break up the team and give up now: Please hand in your Washington Wizards replica jerseys at the arena on Thursday-your use as a fan is no longer necessary.

Wiz will win games 3 and 4. Just like we won game 3 and 4, and 5 and 6, in the 2005 1st round series vs Chicago.

And to all those that threw in the towel now: Thank God our players don't quit as easily as some of you "fans."

Pitiful.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 22, 2008 12:35 AM

The constant repetition of this 40-year drought message by folks (most likely one very lonely blogger) is starting to sound germane, maybe even relevant. In fact, come to think of it, repeated messages are more true than those not repeated... I now actually accept what Bush said that Saddam Hussein communicated with Bin Laden to plan 9/11!

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:36 AM

"Cleveland Fan:

Your not-so-subtle trolling/baiting is the one type of post that's actually making me feel all right about posting on a rival team's blog. Anyone who impersonates a rival to troll for oneself is clearly many times more bored/lonely/disturbed than I am. Thank you."


well actually champ, i hate to ruin the mood again.... but i live here in DC and I get the Post delivered to me. I'm a medical resident from Georgetown and i'm up right now because i'm studying for my board exams. So to add insult to injury, i'm the internet-predator (not unlike yourself) you had hoped for after all.

Cavs in 4.

Posted by: Lebron4President2008 | April 22, 2008 12:40 AM

I'm sure it doesn't feel as bad as having a 40 year drought!

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:33 AM

No doubt. Maybe Mark Rypien could play PG for the Wizards. Return of the DC Glory Days.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:43 AM

The constant repetition of this 40-year drought message by folks (most likely one very lonely blogger) is starting to sound germane, maybe even relevant. In fact, come to think of it, repeated messages are more true than those not repeated... I now actually accept what Bush said that Saddam Hussein communicated with Bin Laden to plan 9/11!

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:36 AM

I just confused myself. Oh well, can't blame me for trying to divert attention from the 40+ year Drought. What do you expect from a pathetic Cleveland Fan who stays up all night to post on another city's blog.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:43 AM

Um, well you might want to reduce your benzedrine scrip, because I think you're confused. I didn't imply you weren't in DC, nor that you were in fact very bored. I suppose the only relevant line in your response was the last one which, consequently, comes as neither an insult or an injury. Good luck on the tests.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:44 AM

Poor guy, doesn't know when the ruse is over... nobody ever taught him when he took the joke too far. I just hope it's not too late.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:46 AM

I'm sure it doesn't feel as bad as having a 40 year drought!

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:33 AM

No doubt. Maybe Mark Rypien could play PG for the Wizards. Return of the DC Glory Days.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:43 AM


I will even go back further. Way way way way way back. Jim Brown can play for the Browns, and finally bring a championship.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:47 AM

@ Barno

I hope we do win the next 4, but hoping and realizing this team QUIT as you suggest us fans have and the fact that, for instance, the behavior of DS is embarrassing.

We are now getting ridiculed nationally. Not bc we lost. Bc we talked trash and now DS is taking his classless selfish self promoting behavior to a whole new level. No wonder he and Arenas' are such good friends. Like someone said earlier, I feel bad for Jamison and Butler who do things the right way always!

Posted by: Rob P | April 22, 2008 12:49 AM

Poor guy, doesn't know when the ruse is over... nobody ever taught him when he took the joke too far. I just hope it's not too late.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:46 AM


Poor Cleveland. I hope it's not too late for us to end the Drought!!!

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:50 AM

@ Barno

I hope we do win the next 4, but hoping and realizing this team QUIT as you suggest us fans have and the fact that, for instance, the behavior of DS is embarrassing.

We are now getting ridiculed nationally. Not bc we lost. Bc we talked trash and now DS is taking his classless selfish self promoting behavior to a whole new level. No wonder he and Arenas' are such good friends. Like someone said earlier, I feel bad for Jamison and Butler who do things the right way always!

Posted by: Rob P | April 22, 2008 12:49 AM


Yeah Jamison and Butler did things the right way tonight. They played very well and very hard. It's too bad Gilby and DS lost it for them. It's a shame they wasted a great effort by Jamison and Butler. Jaimson and Butler each had triple doubles and played excellent D.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 22, 2008 12:52 AM

To The Dude:

i apologize. These comments come in so quick and i was not aware that there was actually someone named "Cleveland Fan" making asinine remarks. I thought i was the 'cleveland fan' you were referring to which i am not.

Posted by: Lebron4President2008 | April 22, 2008 12:53 AM

Aww well, I suppose it is too late for him. The fortunate thing for Cleveland is that it's never too late to end a drought. Although, despite what Mr. Arenas says, losing for a certain number of years in the past in no way affects one's chances of winning in the future... darn you basic statistics.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:53 AM

Lebron4President2008:

Apology accepted; I'm on your side. Good luck on the boards and go Cavs.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:55 AM

I will even go back further. Way way way way way back. Jim Brown can play for the Browns, and finally bring a championship.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:47 AM
Did you make the "I can't feel my face" motion after that little zinger? Here's a hint: the Cavs don't need Jim Brown's help. They can handle the Wizards just fine as presently constituted.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:58 AM

To The Dude:

i apologize. These comments come in so quick and i was not aware that there was actually someone named "Cleveland Fan" making asinine remarks. I thought i was the 'cleveland fan' you were referring to which i am not.

Posted by: Lebron4President2008 | April 22, 2008 12:53 AM

Aww well, I suppose it is too late for him. The fortunate thing for Cleveland is that it's never too late to end a drought. Although, despite what Mr. Arenas says, losing for a certain number of years in the past in no way affects one's chances of winning in the future... darn you basic statistics.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:53 AM

Lebron4President2008:

Apology accepted; I'm on your side. Good luck on the boards and go Cavs.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 12:55 AM


The Dude,

Do you want me to be on the bottom or top? I swallow too!

Posted by: Lebron4President2008 | April 22, 2008 1:00 AM

I will even go back further. Way way way way way back. Jim Brown can play for the Browns, and finally bring a championship.

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 12:47 AM
Did you make the "I can't feel my face" motion after that little zinger? Here's a hint: the Cavs don't need Jim Brown's help. They can handle the Wizards just fine as presently constituted.

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 12:58 AM


I wish someone can help any one of the many Cleveland Fans end the drought. We lost the Browns once. We are losing Lebron next. Who else is leaving this pathetic city?

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 1:02 AM

"the behavior of DS is embarrassing."

"DS is taking his classless selfish self promoting behavior to a whole new level."

Posted by: Rob P | April 22, 2008 12:49 AM

Exactly how is his behavior embarrassing? He isn't doing anything now that he hasn't been doing for the Wizards since day 1. Whether it be flashing his hand in front of his face, or playing agressive defense on the opponents top offensive player, the man has started more consecutive games than any player in the entire Eastern Conference.

So what exactly has he done at all this series that is classless?

Posted by: Barno1 | April 22, 2008 1:02 AM

Ah, homophobic remarks: the famous last resort of misanthropes and 13-year olds everywhere. Congrats bro. I hope your mom packs you a twinkie for lunch tomorrow.

The unfortunate problem you still face is that your team is trailing by two games, despite your best efforts to do... whatever it is you're doing.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:03 AM

I suppose if my team just lost by 30 points I would be tempted to change the subject away from the game, too. How dare LeBron and the Cavaliers show any emotion beating a team with players that called them overrated, said they hoped to play them because they knew they would beat them, and repeated their game plan of hard fouls on LeBron anytime he got near the basket.

Posted by: Reality | April 22, 2008 1:04 AM

@ Barno:

He did the hand thing while trailing by 16 points. He invited Soulja Boy to sit in the front row for game 3. He's incited the anger of the best player on the other team, who's gone on to massacre he and his team the first two games. He's an embarrassment to himself and making a mockery of the team. He's playing horrifically.

I'm not sure a history of classlessness (from day 1, even) renders his current behavior any less classless.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:07 AM

Ah, homophobic remarks: the famous last resort of misanthropes and 13-year olds everywhere. Congrats bro. I hope your mom packs you a twinkie for lunch tomorrow.

The unfortunate problem you still face is that your team is trailing by two games, despite your best efforts to do... whatever it is you're doing.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:03 AM


The bigger problem is we will go another year without a Championship.


Lebron4President2008,

Can I have a piece of your twinkie *wink*

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:08 AM

I wish someone can help any one of the many Cleveland Fans end the drought. We lost the Browns once. We are losing Lebron next. Who else is leaving this pathetic city?

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 1:02 AM

I hope so too. Beating up on the Wizards hasn't been particularly satisfying in a couple years now. Maybe Jamison will come to Cleveland. God knows he's never going to win a title with that ball hogging, one dimensional choker in DC. Hibachi!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 1:08 AM

OH SNAP!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 1:10 AM

I wish someone can help any one of the many Cleveland Fans end the drought. We lost the Browns once. We are losing Lebron next. Who else is leaving this pathetic city?

Posted by: Cleveland Fan | April 22, 2008 1:02 AM

I hope so too. Beating up on the Wizards hasn't been particularly satisfying in a couple years now. Maybe Jamison will come to Cleveland. God knows he's never going to win a title with that ball hogging, one dimensional choker in DC. Hibachi!

Posted by: | April 22, 2008 1:08 AM


Cleveland hasn't been satified in over 40 years.

Maybe Lebron4President2008 can help satisfy me in other ways.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:11 AM

If you're going to mimic me, at least bother to spell correctly. I've got an image to maintain.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:12 AM

If you're going to mimic me, at least bother to spell correctly. I've got an image to maintain.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:12 AM


That wasn't me.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:13 AM

I've been trying to blog on the Cleveland site, but they keep reminding me of our terrible 40+ year drought. I have no life and i'm so bored, I decided to visit another team's blog and post all night long!

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:14 AM

Oh, but it was, my homophobic imitator. I just hope you're more diligent while filling out you homework. In that vein, shouldn't you be asleep by now? School comes early!

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:16 AM

Oh, but it was, my homophobic imitator. I just hope you're more diligent while filling out you homework. In that vein, shouldn't you be asleep by now? School comes early!

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:16 AM

That wasn't me

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:18 AM

Posting here is nice. It's good to keep myself grounded amidst all the celebratory posts at the Cavs blogs. I can soak up all the desperation and depression evinced by the actual posts and by the awkward attempts at trolling, and revel in my temporary happiness. That's right, The Dude troll, your misery brings me pleasure. Thanks. Go Cavs.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:19 AM

Posting here is nice. It's good to keep myself grounded amidst all the celebratory posts at the Cavs blogs. I can soak up all the desperation and depression evinced by the actual posts and by the awkward attempts at trolling, and revel in my temporary happiness. That's right, The Dude troll, your misery brings me pleasure. Thanks. Go Cavs.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:19 AM


I haven't had any real pleasure in over 40 years. In the meantime, maybe Lebron4President2008 can bring me some Pleasure.

Posted by: The Dude | April 22, 2008 1:20 AM

I have seen games where the other team has beaten you down or embarrassed you, this was not one of them, we embarrassed ourselves, we played stupid and gave them the game.

Here's whats making me real mad, the double coverage, its time to man up and play lock on defense. Lebron is gonna score no matter what we do, he showed that past to games of double covering, but if we go one on one defense, then he can't get his teammates involved and they will start to stand around and get lazy, lebron will start to try to take over the game himself, whats the problem with allowing him to score 40 pts if the rest of his team does nothing, the cavs have shown they can pass the ball away from the double team and that is what hurt us bad. now we've got a fired up cavs team where the players now actually believe in themselves, thank you genius plan.

Posted by: wizfan | April 22, 2008 1:25 AM

The Dude:

i was mimicked as well... that's the problem with these 'add-any-name' blogs.

Just a bunch of poor sports & sorry losers.

-the real Lebron4President2008

The apology was the last post that was actually mine.

peace out.... Washington - stay classy!

Posted by: The REAL lebron4pres... | April 22, 2008 1:31 AM

The Dude:

i was mimicked as well... that's the problem with these 'add-any-name' blogs.

Just a bunch of poor sports & sorry losers.

-the real Lebron4President2008

The apology was the last post that was actually mine.

peace out.... Washington - stay classy!


Posted by: The REAL lebron4pres... | April 22, 2008 1:31 AM


Oh, you never answered if you prefer top or bottom?

Posted by: The REAL lebron4pres... | April 22, 2008 1:36 AM

folks the wizards have a lot of problems to solve for starters they don't preach defense or hold each other accountable on defense and a lot of times they play one on one being offense or denfense vs teamthey don't seam to have that mentality,also these guys no disrespect intended but they don't h ustle on the boards and they allow two many second chance points now what iam interested in is that how much is Randy Ayers gonna improve this defense come next season and if the wizards are out of the playoffs in the first round is Eddie Jordan back since Grungeld wants denfensive coach someone like either Brian Shaw or Mario Ellie Eddie Jordan has too much offensive staff and not enough defensive staff that is the biggest problem with this team and here is anoter problem they are too inconsistent with their shooting.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 1:37 AM

116-86. These bozos got it right for once. the score says it all.

how embarassing.

Posted by: aww gee wallllyyyyy | April 22, 2008 1:38 AM

All of this talk between cavs and wiz fans is pointless. We all saw what happened tonight. It is what it is. We absolutely embarassed ourselves via all the trash talk, and there's no other way to slice it. The best we can hope for is to tie the series up at 2-2 and go back to cleveland hat's in hand, so to speak. I'm as big of a wizards fan as they come, and I have to admit this loss has made me question the makeup of this team more than any loss we've experienced in the last four years. I'm still willing to give this team a shot to prove that it's not what it appears to be (an entertaining, happy-go-lucky group of guys who care more about having fun then doing what it takes to WIN in the playoffs), but i obviously have my doubts after what I saw tonight. I will consider it a victory for this team if we cut out the talk and all the other nonsense (i.e. deshawn's utterly ridiculous hand motion when he hit the three to cut the lead to SIXTEEN in the third). If we cut that garbage out completely and just come out and compete, i'll be proud of this team again. If we don't and we lose, needless to say changes are in order. If we don't and we win, I'm STILL not convinced changes aren't in order. Right now it looks like the wizards lack the maturity and mental toughness to win a single game on the road against the cavs. Taking care of business at home by winning two games is simply the first step towards fulfilling the promise that we all had put in this team before this series started. I'm not ready to abandon ship yet, but I certainly am not blind to the Iceberg we're about to ram into if we don't make some changes to our attitude as a collective unit. GO WIZARDS.

Posted by: zach | April 22, 2008 1:39 AM

116-86. These bozos got it right for once. the score says it all.

how embarassing.

Posted by: aww gee wallllyyyyy | April 22, 2008 1:38 AM

History says it all....40+ year DROUGHT.

how pathetic

Posted by: aww gee wallllyyyyy | April 22, 2008 1:41 AM

"Their coach kept them disciplined. And this coach couldn't keep his guys disciplined enough to keep this competitive. I did a horrible job of keeping these guys in an organized fashion, playing with intensity, discipline and organization. We'll see if we can play with a lot more intensity, discipline and intelligence once we get back to Washington." Eddie Jordan as quoted in Wilbon's article

Hey, could not say it better myself! But, although I am not a huge fan of EJ the basketball coach, I do think he is a classy guy. I actually feel a little bad for him. It's not just his fault the Wiz played this poorly! But, then again, when has discipline been a coaching forte of his?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 1:50 AM

last anon post was me...

One other point about Wilbon's article. I think Wilbon inferred that GA does not have a great basketball IQ at least compared to LeBaby's. Great point! The only basketball related IQ GA has pertains to his "I get buckets" mentality!

Go Caps! What a difference in heart and effort! Watching those two games back to back was a lesson in contrast. Alex Ovechkin will be worth every dime of his 120 million contract in gate receipts, playoff success, and franchise value. Starting to wonder if GA deserves much more than 60/70 much less MAX money! Aren't you supposed to get a return on an investment that big?

Posted by: Rob P | April 22, 2008 2:02 AM

Really? We were actually outplaying the Cavs up until the 4th in game 1. But after this pathetic performance, we know who's walking the walk and who's talking the talk. Give me a break. Now, Bron-Bron gets a huge amount of "fouls" and he takes three steps everytime he drives the lane. And there's been some measure of double-standard in this series (Varejao's swipe at AB). But there's no way a playoff team should lose by 30, even on the road. The Wiz should be ashamed of themselves, because they embarassed the city and their fans in this game. It seems like they're more interested in proving a point that they're tough rather than playing basketball. Eddie had better get his boys in order or we could be swept again. This time we won't have an excuse.

Posted by: embarassed | April 22, 2008 2:08 AM

last anon post was me...

One other point about Wilbon's article. I think Wilbon inferred that GA does not have a great basketball IQ at least compared to LeBaby's. Great point! The only basketball related IQ GA has pertains to his "I get buckets" mentality!

Go Caps! What a difference in heart and effort! Watching those two games back to back was a lesson in contrast. Alex Ovechkin will be worth every dime of his 120 million contract in gate receipts, playoff success, and franchise value. Starting to wonder if GA deserves much more than 60/70 much less MAX money! Aren't you supposed to get a return on an investment that big?

Posted by: Rob P | April 22, 2008 2:02 AM


Gilby already proved his worth. It's so much he can do with injuries this year. It's funny how fast people forget how good someone is. Jamison and Butler make close to what Gilby makes this year.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 22, 2008 2:11 AM

I was upset when Barkley called the Wizards a stupid team when only DS and GA seemed to be running their mouths, but they absolutely played a stupid game in game 2. No ball movement, just chucking up bad shots, DS taunting after being down 16, letting Szerbiak get hot, just bad. And if Gilbert's going to play this bad then he needs to sit. I can't tell if he's joking or clueless when he calls himself the number one end of quarter and end of game player. He's not even close to being in Lebron or Kobe's league.

Posted by: Stephen | April 22, 2008 2:52 AM

I need a bucket. We're treading water!

Posted by: Agent Zero | April 22, 2008 6:21 AM

I think had a chance if the refs could see that that flegrant on James was barely a foul.

Posted by: Jesse | April 22, 2008 6:52 AM

quit feeling sorry for yourself. quit shooting jumpshots. drive to the rim CB, AJ, GA. and drive again. and drive again, etc. Be a man like BH. He is the only player slugging it out and giving his heart and sole. (I can't believe I am saying this.) It doesn't even look like the other players have his back. I'm more convinced now that while lebron may not be that overrated, he is a cry baby and a cheater and none of the other players really like him, and the refs treat him like a king. But the big 3 have no one to blame but themselves for this performance. drive to the rim and shoot or pass and drive some more. come on. and that was no flagrant 2. one anybody else it would not be called that way, particularly in the playoffs.

Posted by: oddjob | April 22, 2008 6:58 AM

Hopefully by this morning all of the Clevelanders have cleared out of our blog. The regulars here have hit on a few things that are obvious. I've added a few...
We are not boxing out. If that doesn't change, we're getting swept. We were in game 1 because AJ was hitting the boards. BiZ's ability to hit a jumper pulls Bh away from the hoop. CB and AJ have to get it done.
CB was outscored by Sczerbiak. If he doesn't start dominating that matchup, we get swept.
Gilbert's wrist is worse than he's letting on. While the announcers were talking about his knee, he kept flexing his wrist and wincing. If that's not better soon, we're done.
BTH is a key to this series. If he gets suspended, we're finished.
Besides Songaila, our bench is suspect despite getting lots of experience this season. RM is playing himself out of the nice contract that he'd previous played himself into.
Big Z has no answer for BTH and AB/Songaila have no answer for Big Z.
Lebron's game is getting up a head of steam 20 feet out and driving to the hoop, running through any incidental contact. You have to stop him before he gets up that momentum. Gil was the only one that actually played him properly by backing off and making him shoot. Pressing LeBron gets you muscled and he will run right by you.
We're not equipped to play the slow game. If we are not pushing it and scoring lots of points, we lose. The slow game is not our game.
Gil DOES get buckets. it's his forte and he should be asked to do what he does best...particularly now. AD should play most of the game and Gil should come in shooting for the last 5 minutes of every quarter. That's it !
Kenny and Barkley were both way off in their comments about Gil. They keep talking about him Gil was ignoring his teammates and trying to nbe a hero. Fact is, EJ gives Gil the green light and expects him to score. Even Barkley admitted that when he was playing, he could sense when he neede to score. Gil does that, too. How can you say he's shooting too much when he takes 10 shots? Ridiculous.

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 7:07 AM

I'm the biggest Wiz fan on this blog.

Posted by: Ivan Carter | April 22, 2008 7:08 AM

AIIIIRRRR BALLLLL

Posted by: Gilbert Arenas | April 22, 2008 7:09 AM

Funny thing is, I just woke up and I still can't feel my face.

Posted by: Deshawn | April 22, 2008 7:13 AM

more observations:
DS obviously needs to hit some of those open 3's. It's a totally different game when he does. He also needs to challenge LeBron and make him work on defense. LeBron is only being forced to play one half of the court and he's conserving his energy. Any one of the all stars in this league could dominate if they get to rest on defense. Run his man around screens and tire him out a little. Our offense might be our best defense.
Gotta run some of the offense through BTH. Almost every team in the league plays an inside out game. Since BTH is a legitimate threat to score inside, why not try it out? We may get some wide open shots as a result. I have faith in BTH to pass it back out when he sees the dbl team come.

My bottom line:
Gil is still hurting. Caron is either hurting or unable to do anything but shoot jumpers. When he wanted to blow by Wally, he did. He needs to do it more. BTH needs to stay out of foul trouble. Gil should only play 20 minutes a game but should play Vinnie Johnson/Ben Gordon style. He gets buckets so let him get buckets. RM should get no time if he can't hit a shot. We're better off with AD/GA only.
Pech may be able to play Big Z as well as or better than Blatche. At least he can pull him away from the hoop with the threat to shoot. Maybe he should have been developed a little more this season.
Bottom bottom line: as poorly as we played, they held serve. Whether we lose by 10 or 30, it's still only 2-0. No time to panic til we lose a home game.

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 7:18 AM

and..GO CAPS !!!!

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 7:21 AM

Deshawn started this mess. The drama surrounding his "stupid" assinine statement has gotten the Wizards off their game. I am at a loss for words this morning. That game was nothing short of abysmal. The coacing sucked, execution sucked. Instead of worrying so much about hard fouling people(Lebron) the Wiz need to play their game! I will be there in spite of how I feel right now, on Thursday to cheer them on. But, to be completely honest, the wind is out of my sail and I think that if something is not changed between now and Thursday, we are going to see 3 and 0 come Friday morning. Still love my Wiz, but I don't know where the team that played with so much intensity throughout the season have went. On a lighter not, how about those Caps! What a game!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 7:52 AM

I hate to admit it but [gulp] DC Man88 was right. This team as currently constructed is good enough to make the playoffs but not built to actually advance. No toughness, not enough size, not enough savvy. The thing that struck me the most about last night's debacle is that the Cavs were shooting layups while the Wiz were settling for jumpers. I'm the biggest Tough Juice fan out there but he's playing like a cream puff. He had Wally Freaking Sczerbiak guarding him (most of the time straight up) and he's shooting JUMPERS?! WTF Caron?! I don't get it. I just don't get it. Caron HAS to make Cleveland pay for that matchup. Also DS needs to make LeBron work on defense. How overrated is Lebron now? If I were coaching this team, I'd tell all of my players, "Whoever shoots a jumpshot with more than 10 seconds on the shot clock is getting yanked." The most frustrating thing is that last year's squad played HARD (including Arvis) all four games. We just got outgunned. Now we have a much more talented team but there is no HEART out there at all... I'm gonna hang in there but some serious changes need to be made to this roster when the season is over.

Posted by: Essex | April 22, 2008 7:58 AM

the only thing that pisses me about this series is seeing lebron cry in front of the refs EVERYTIME when he's touched.

c'mon, lebron. you're a superstar. act like one. you're physically gifted. don't look at the refs for extra help.

Posted by: mike | April 22, 2008 8:03 AM

The WHOLE Wiz organization needs to be completely and utterly emabarrassed after that display of undisciplined, uninspired play last night. WOW! What a mess! Whew are they going to hear it when they get into the city. All of the radio broadcasts,tv analysts and sportswriters are raking my guys thru the coals. Will the Wiz do as the Caps did and play with a little pride and sense of urgency while curtailing their emotions and focusing on the job at hand? We will see on Thursday. All I can say is GO WIZ! As much as I want to turn away from this train wreck, I have to stay around and hope that there is some life left in this team. AUGGGGGGGGGGHH! Makes me wanna holla!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:28 AM

To those that want to break up the team and give up now: Please hand in your Washington Wizards replica jerseys at the arena on Thursday-your use as a fan is no longer necessary.

Wiz will win games 3 and 4. Just like we won game 3 and 4, and 5 and 6, in the 2005 1st round series vs Chicago.

And to all those that threw in the towel now: Thank God our players don't quit as easily as some of you "fans."

Pitiful.

Posted by: Barno1 | April 22, 2008 12:35 AM

And yet, I would argue that this team DID quit last night. Maybe you weren't watching the same game, but the Wizards gave up when Cleveland extended the lead to about 18 points in the third quarter. You could see it on their faces. They were rattled, disoriented and confused. So they gave up, ready to move on. The only small bit of consolation I took was that Gilbert actually looked pissed about losing. I've never seen him look genuinely ticked off before following a loss. Maybe something is sparked inside of him. Maybe I'm grasping at straws -- at anything -- so that there's still some hope for the Wizards. I don't see it, though, until they put together a great top-down performance.

Also, I liked how Jamison said they have to take it to rim. Well, they did. AJ did, in particular. But the Wizards (especially AJ) missed countless lay ups last night. So even when they're taking it, they're missing the bunnies. Those are huge misses.

Posted by: Colin | April 22, 2008 8:41 AM

Y'all have a lot of nerve talking about who is known for choking in the NBA playoffs! Anyone for a hat trick?

Posted by: unseldsghost | April 22, 2008 8:51 AM

Maybe it is those ugly uniforms. Maybe if we put them in a pile and burn them before the game, play in our home whites or the blues we may undo this horrid mess we find ourselves in. (just trying to inject humor here) Win or lose they really need our backing right now and I am there for the Wiz. A true blu fan. May not always like what I see but I won't desert them. Go WIZ!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:51 AM

The fact of the matter is the Wizards got their behinds handed to them last night. They showed no heart whatsoever!!! And folks get on here and get on Lebron, LOL. This series is in no way over, but if they don't step it up they are going to get swept!!!

Posted by: dcb | April 22, 2008 8:52 AM

Oh yea, I guess Lebron got about 2 gallons of milk or more cause he really milked that Haywood foul for the media last night. Both he and coach Brown. You would think the Wiz were the Pistons of old the way they are being portrayed in the media right now. My boys are getting it on all fronts.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:54 AM

For Haywood to get ejected for that foul was unbelievable! I have never seen anything like that. It certainly was no worse than Varejo's foul on Blatche! To eject our only center at that point in the game was just totally deflating.

I will say Cleveland's size so far has been difficult for us to match up with. BigZ with Big Ben, Varejo, Joe Smith, and LeBron. Haywood is our only legit center, and Jamison/Caron at forwards overall is a small frontcourt. We gotta find a way to speed up the tempo and take advantage of our speed and athleticism.

I am still optimistic. We only have to win 1 out of 4 in Cleveland. We have to win our 3 at home. But we still have 2 more at Cleveland, and we just gotta win one of them.

Posted by: Darnell | April 22, 2008 8:56 AM

Hmmm...
"Actually, Arenas did have one problem: he lost a grip of money to Andray Blatche and Nick Young by missing a series of shots from mid-court after the shootaround was over. Some were right-handed, some were left-handed and some were over the head tosses while facing the other way."

maybe they should have been looking at video and being a bit more serious about the game....

Posted by: nowhine | April 22, 2008 8:58 AM

It was more of James' momemtum that made him go down hard than Haywood hitting him. Haywood barely moved into him. In fact when you watch it you see Haywood moving his arms down as he moves into him as if he was trying to brace LeBron from going down hard but was unable to. At that point he put his hands up to show he wasn't trying to hit him hard. He was simply keeping him from making a shot. I thought it was good defense.

Posted by: Darnell | April 22, 2008 9:08 AM

I agree with Rob P...... there is no leadership on the floor, for the Wizards. If GA is there supposed leader then he needs to act like it. A leader never gets called for a childish tripping foul. The Wizards need to turn the reigns over to CB. It's clear that the CAVS are making a concerted effort to take him out of the game. It tells me that they fear him more than anybody else. If you don't agree, watch the tape you will see that they are running AD's man at CB when he gets the ball causing him to play with hesitancy.

The Wizards have never been known as a physical team, so why are they trying to be physical? The double team has not worked so far, because the defenders are telegraphing the double teams, and/or not using proper technique when closing out. I say make LeBron a jump shooter. If he beats them with the shot, then IMO he deserves it.

This line up with GA and AD still has me scratching my head. Since GA came back, I have not seen those two in the line up at the same time, so why now???

I say get RM involved because he can be a catalyst. He has not had open shots that he was getting in the regular season, because the team is not running the offense. IMO, if he is involved, that opens things up for CB and AJ.

Although I like Eddie, I think he will probably be let go if the Wizards bow out in the first round. Ernie will probably seek a coach who will instill a little more discipline and leadership.

Last note, GA probably should not opt out of his contract this year!!!!!! If the team keeps playing like it has been, Ernie just might BLOW IT UP!!!!!!

Posted by: bullets_0000 | April 22, 2008 9:24 AM

Haywood's foul was pretty bad, and when looked at individually, probably should've resulted in an ejection. However, Varejao's hit on Blatche was just as bad, if not worse. I saw TJ Ford take a similar shot earlier this year and had to be carried off in a stretcher with a neck brace on, with concerns about his future health. That was a classless shot by Varejao, and in no way did he deserve less than Haywood.

Posted by: psps23 | April 22, 2008 9:24 AM

This is all pretty ridiculous. Why can't the topic stay on the Cavs-Wizards series instead of totally bashing cities and players?

I am a Cleveland fan, but I do not feel that I am too biased to see the truth. That being said, the Cavs have dominated this series. The Wiz came in talking so much, but have played flat and unmotivated (especially last night). If the Cavs keep getting the type of production from guys like Wally, Big Ben, Boobie and D West the series will be over in 4.

As far as the officiating goes, it has been fair. I agree with Reggie Miller that if that was someone other then LBJ (or Kobe, D Wade or another superstar) had been hit then it would have been a flagrant 1. That is just the way the league works though. MJ would have gotten the exact same call. The handcheck by Butler was a joke, I will admit that.

Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008 9:25 AM

I hope BTH don't get suspended for game 3. I believe he's the most important player right now for the Wiz. He's there only inside player and the one that can guard Z.

We'll see what the Wiz team is made of in game 3. Are they just all talk/blog OR is there pride inside them? Game 3 will be the most important game not only for this series but for the team in the last 10 years. It will be a make or break for them.

Posted by: Dave | April 22, 2008 9:40 AM

LeBron James is the most dominating player in the NBA. I give up...He outscored our Big Three...sure we may get two wins but it looks bleak. I can't believe I'm saying this but the Wizards are toooo bruised, sprained, and tired to man up in the playoffs. Its understandable that James is killing us. Charles Barkley was right as well. I hope we can keep all of our guys next year and they can stay healthy for a change because if we lose Jamison and Gil...HELLO LOTTERY!!!!

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | April 22, 2008 9:42 AM

Terrible game article by Ivan Carter. What's wrong with telling the truth? Like how the Wiz have embarrassed themselves and are now the laughing stock of the league? No mention of the Stevenson garbage? No mention of how the team obviously quit? No mention about how Gil is awful to play with and how he's ruined the chemistry?

Posted by: Bill | April 22, 2008 9:48 AM

Mason, Jamison, Stevenson and Butler: missing the "pose" at the end of the jumpshot. You're just chucking it up now just like Dominic does in hopes of it falling in. Ball won't fall in without the spin.

Posted by: rgz | April 22, 2008 9:51 AM

CB3 needs to become the focal point of the offense as he's the one who can create for his teammates plus score on his own. The Cavs are doubling him because they don't fear Agent Zero getting to the basket. He's clearly only able to take jump shots as he's about 75%. The team showed a complete lack of leadership last night and played in a panic once it fell behind in the 1st half. I think that is the worse game AJ played this year - air balls from 6 feet and shots that hit nothing but the backboard. Instead of running the offense and keeping everyone involved, Caron and Gil resorted to one on one once we were losing. GA can only be an asset on the offensive end and should have been yanked much earlier when it was clear he was hurting the team. EJ needs to show some leadership that transfers down to his players which he admitted after the game.

As for the officiating, BOTH of the fouls on Haywood and Verajao should have been called the same. Both were committed with no attempt at the ball and could have resulted in injuries to either player. If Haywood was given a Flagrant 2, then Verajao should have been given the same in the 1st quarter and ejected....not to mention the hard foul by Delonte West on AD which Reggie Miller pointed out could also have resulted in an injury. No consistency in how any of those 3 hard fouls were called which points to a bias from the officials and protect of LeBron.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 22, 2008 9:51 AM

West's foul on Daniels was in no way dirty, especially compared to the fouls that LBJ has taken. West just made a good, hard foul while still making an attempt at the ball. Hard fouls are part of the playoffs and up to this point I think both sides have given each other clean, hard fouls (except for Haywood's and Varejao's).

Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008 9:56 AM

It's probably unfair to compare this team with our last two playoff Wiz teams since we had our #1 offensive option out all year. In previous years, we got to the playoffs by scoring a lot and defending a little. A lot has been made about our defensive improvement this year because the opponent average per ganme is lower. That's deceiving. AD is a slower paced pg and we're a slower paced team. Of course opponents are going to score less. Less fast break opportunities for us and them. I'm not convinced that we're that much better defensively. My opinion is that we had a team that was great offensively and poor defensively and have become a team that's ok offensively and average defensively. The numbers for this season are pretty clear... when we score more than 100 points, we are 33-12. We need to pick up the pace and if the Cavs can run with us, fine. We're too small to bang with the halfcourt traditional playoff style. CB and AJ are undersized for their positions and BTH is an average rebounder. If we continue to slow it down and play their game, we lose. I'd like to pick up the pace but am probably in the minority.

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 9:58 AM

As far as the officiating goes, it has been fair. I agree with Reggie Miller that if that was someone other then LBJ (or Kobe, D Wade or another superstar) had been hit then it would have been a flagrant 1. That is just the way the league works though. MJ would have gotten the exact same call. The handcheck by Butler was a joke, I will admit that.

Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008 9:25 AM

JC I have to disagree with you on the officiating being fair. Did you count the "over the backs" the Cav's were commiting and there were no calls. Did you see the drives by AD, CB and Gil into the lane and only not to get a call? The Cav's hand checked and bodied up and there were no calls. The minute LaBron drove, FOUL!!!

It almost felt like whenever the Cav's wanted to drive you "KNEW" a foul was going to be called. Now, did all of this lose the game for the Wizards? I would say no. The Wiz started losing the game before the officials started jerking the Wizards around on calls and no calls.

Cleveland's defense is really giving the Wiz some problems and I will give them credit for that. You can see the Spur's influence from Mike Brown with his defensive sets. The Wiz are not running their offensive sets as they should. This is not EJ's fault. This game was not lost by EJ, it was lost by the players and the officials (in that order).

Gil and CB missing so much time during the regular season is really starting to show. Their legs are not there and they are no where near 100%. Big Ike continue's to walk, Sideshow Bob continue's to go over people's back, and if you "glance" at LaBron a foul is called. To many factors involved right now for the Wiz to be successful.

** Full props go out to Haywood, who looks like he is the only one who came here to play. Mason what the heck is going on with your shot???????

Posted by: Bullets Fever #1 | April 22, 2008 9:58 AM

We showed no heart or effort out there on the court last night. Cheers to Haywood for the foul he tried to get us fired up, atleast he wasnt taking bets on jumpshots before the game. Although this is a tuff pill to swallow game 3 is still huge we need to come out focused and execute if we can get the fans into it take game 3 maybe we can swing things. BTW Deshawn you might want to take the floor seats you got for Soja Boy back and buy yourself a ticket to the circus instead because you looked like a clown out there last night doing your "I cant feel my face" jesture down 18.

Posted by: wdevers | April 22, 2008 10:01 AM

I think EJ's hard foul strategy has backfired. Worse, Wiz has broadcasted it so loudly beforehand, Cavs used the publicity to cry foul and got that ejection of Haywood.

The fact is, Wiz simply does not have any physically tough, imposing player. I am sure Ben Wallace can dish out hard fouls better than any Wiz player. When you are engaging "hard foul" strategy, you should expect the other team to hard foul you back, and Cavs not only did last night, it had the upper hand (with some ref's helps too).

Posted by: Sagaliba | April 22, 2008 10:01 AM

The game was pure slap on the face! I agree with Dave, the next game will show the true character of the team.

Mike Brown did a good selling job before game 2 and he succeeded. I know I'm setting up myself for the EJ fans club here but Mike Brown is outcoaching EJ in this series.

Posted by: Fortune Teller | April 22, 2008 10:02 AM

I don't know about all the "over the backs" you guys are talking about. There is one easy way for a team to start getting those calls and it's called boxing out. If the Wizards bigs put a butt on Z then they will get those calls, but they did a very poor job of that last night.

Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008 10:08 AM

So I woke up around 4AM in Warsaw, staggered down the stairs, lit up the laptop to cjeck on the Wiz and quickly realized I should have stood in bed....

EVERYTHING is riding on Game 3, people...

Posted by: khrabb | April 22, 2008 10:10 AM

I think EJ's hard foul strategy has backfired. Worse, Wiz has broadcasted it so loudly beforehand; Cavs used the publicity to cry foul and got that ejection of Haywood.

The fact is, Wiz simply does not have any physically tough, imposing player. I am sure Ben Wallace can dish out hard fouls better than any Wiz player. When you are engaging "hard foul" strategy, you should expect the other team to hard foul you back, and Cavs not only did last night, it had the upper hand (with some ref's helps too).


Posted by: Sagaliba | April 22, 2008 10:01 AM

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Sagaliba, I couldn't agree with you more. For the life of me, I can't understand why the Wizards would broadcast they are going to be physical with LBJ and the CAVS. If you are going to be physical just be physical don't BROADCAST IT. But the Wizards are not known for being physical, so why now??? As you pointed out the Wizards don't have anyone who can be physically imposing. So as far as I am concerned, they created this mess, now they need to clean it up!!!!

Posted by: bullets_0000 | April 22, 2008 10:17 AM

People have been flaming arenas in this thread, and understandably he should get some heat b/c when you make bold statements before a series and can't back it up, you should get criticized. But, he is only 7 some games back after missing 60+ games, has had 2 surgeries on the same knee in the last 12 months, and now has a wrist injury on his shooting hand. He obviously is NOT the same gilbert we know in terms of ball handling and shooting, but he is out there b/c he knows that just his presence alone can divert attention from his teamates. Its unfortunate he made those comments in his blog, but he isn't talking now, he is playing in pain for his team. Go Wiz (from a sad Wiz fan in Cleveland)

Posted by: Vobiwan | April 22, 2008 10:26 AM

I too agree with Sagaliba.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 10:31 AM

mark--
I totally agree with what you're saying about AD being slower resulting in less possessions and less scoring for both teams. I was saying the same to my husband a few nights ago. The rest of the team is not ready to play at Gil's pace.

Have we seen Gil, Mason, Jameson, Blatche, and Haywood together? I think that could be interesting.

Posted by: Lou | April 22, 2008 10:36 AM

I agree, too. As much as the Pistons fouled Jordan, they always said that they were just preventingand 1's. They never talked openly about the 'Jordan Rules'. Talking about it just prepared the officials to call fouls upon contact.
For the life of me, I just cannot understand why they continue to let Z take 3-4 steps every time he puts the ball on the floor. LeBron took 3 steps on that dunk when he split the defenders but he's LeBron and I expect him to get that no-call.
I also agree that BTH seems to be the one of the only guys that has come to play both nights. i think that Gil tried but his wrist is hurt. I also think that AJ tried but his shot wasn't falling. The key is this...
We are not a team that takes the ball to the hole. We cannot play a different game that the one that got us this far. Our jumpshooters are trying to do something outside of what it is that they do best. The first game, there was a huge disparity in foul calls. Because of the makeup of this team, that's just the way it will be. I think we're gonna have to do two things to win.
1. Stick with what we do best offensively and continue to shoot jumpers instead of forcing drives. Our shots will fall here at home.
2. Not only box out but agrressively go after rebounds. They're taller and are able to reach over our forwards' heads for rebounds. We have to body these guys and not wait for the ball to get to us.. go after that ball.
3. Force Lebron to beat us alone and fro the outside. Back off and cut off the drive. If he consistently hits the jumper, so be it. We'll just have to consistently hit ours, too.
4. Stop nutting and make our freaking foul shots.
5, Lastly, treat a scrub like a scrub. Wally and Ben are weak links. Exploit them.

Posted by: mark | April 22, 2008 10:44 AM

I believe the problem with the Wizards is that everybody with the exception of Haywood are playing extremely tense and seem intimidated while the Cavs are playing loose and energetic..

As a team I still believe they have more talent as a whole but they need to start stepping up and blocking out all of this CAV superiority mental bull***. Lebron is a great player but the Wizards would loose to any good team if they continue to dig their own hole by missing buckets all the time.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:00 AM

Mark if I may add to your list.

6. Play BTH to the max (around 35 mins). I will say it again he's the only who can match up well with Z.

7. Experiment with both BTH and AB on the floor at the same time.

8. Try the 2-3 zone if it works. This will limit the penetration and inside game. It will give Wally and the rest the space for 3 pts but I will test them first.

.....Just my $0.02.

Posted by: Dave | April 22, 2008 11:02 AM

Mark,

Agree with most of your points, but disagree that we cannot drive to the basket. The question lies on how healthy Arenas is. When he is healthy he can drive to the basket and either finishes the shot or gets fouled among the best in NBA. The problem seems that his wrist not only affects his shooting but limits his ball handling as well (either that or the fact he hasn't played for a long time).

Haywood has played well. Last night he got the ball in scoring position 5 times, and got 10 points for that! A drive and dish to Haywood may alleviate some of the shooting woes.

Posted by: Sagaliba | April 22, 2008 11:03 AM

Not sure why so many of you are ready to jump ship. The Cavs held home court and now it's your turn (yea, I'm a Cavs fan). I suspect if the Wiz win the next 2 at VC, all you haters will be again singing the praises of everyone. I admire GA immensely for his adoption of the boy whose family was lost in a fire, and I can understand him pounding his chest in an effort to get a big contract. If it backfires this year, he can always not opt out and try to convince other teams of his BB greatness next year. Understandable strategy. Haywood is a decent player but, as with all bigs, dependent on outside guys keeping him involved in the game which is especially hard when the outside guys is your 3 headed monster. Chill out and enjoy the series whoever wins.

Posted by: Gene | April 22, 2008 11:03 AM

Last night was an embarrasing DEBACLE....plain and simple. The ONLY way the Wiz can bare their faces in public again is by winning this series...and I don't see that happening. Sad to say, I don't see them winning another game.

Last night's loss was lethal.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:08 AM

love it when people propose ridiculously unrealistic trade, FA, and draft scenarios.

Posted by: kalorama | April 21, 2008 11:06 PM

well at least i have a thought to share with the readers, and at least arenas for brand doens't seem to be that ridiculous

Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:09 AM

Truly, the one thing that is seared into my mind is not the blow out loss, or the total loss of composure by my home team, but the shot by Damon Jones at the end of the game with Cleveland up by 20+ points. When Damon jones drained that three pointer and began making fun of Deshawn Stevenson, and then Lebron jumped off the bench laughing and imitated Deshawn as well, that really set me off. I can't believe that Lebron is thought of so highly nationally, internationally, etc and yet he is so thoroughly classless. To be beating a team by 20 points and then to make fun of them at the end leaves me speechless. I know no major news outlet will pick that up b/c everyone thinks so highly of lebron, but in my mind, i will NEVER cheer for lebron and i will always cheer against him (and i live in Cleveland!)

Serves the team right, I hope they don't win a game. The team members who got LeBron going should learn to keep their ouths shut. CAVS in FO

Posted by: Skip in VA | April 22, 2008 11:14 AM

Wiz seem to be satisfied when they are up in early quarters. They don't have the killer instinct. I heard Tom Brady say last year, that the Pats didn't just want to win, but kill their opponents. Wiz need that mentality. If their up 10, they should try for 15, 20, 25, etc.

I'd try everything on LeBron. Give him a million different looks. Double team, ball deny, full court press, DMac on him, cut off his drive to the right, etc. All his drives are to his right, the guy has no left...

Posted by: Boulez | April 22, 2008 11:14 AM

the weirdest thing about the haywood incident is he has been the biggest cupcake his whole career. thats been one of his biggest problems--that he never put a body on any1.
hes never hit any1 before. so for him to get a flagrant 2 is unheard of.
crazy man.

Posted by: dk | April 22, 2008 11:23 AM

Ok, I'm generally a huge fan of Jamison, Butler & Gilbert - but this game raises the question of whether it's time to try breaking up our Big Three and try something else.

Posted by: WizFan007 | April 22, 2008 11:25 AM

We have a gimpy ball hog in Arenas, we have Butler who's afraid to drive on Wally, and Jamison throwing up bricks. Our only player that has stepped up is Brenda Haywood.

Eddie Jordan. You're awful, Your so called triangle offense is non-existent, you're perimter defense is awful, and you let a gimpy ball hog destroy the ball movement on our team.

GOODBYE!!!

Posted by: Justin | April 22, 2008 11:25 AM

Eddie Jordan earns his money in the regular season.

To get blown out by 30 in the playoffs is an embarrassment. But is anyone surprised? He is a wonderful players coach but his leash is too loose with some of his players. Stevenson should be benched--because if you talk the talk--and then put up crap offensive numbers (while demonstrating none of the defensive toughness that he is supposedly known for)--you should sit down. He's approaching Freddy Mitchell territory IMO.
The fact is that this team gets blown out far to often for all of it's talent. That is a direct reflection of the laissez faire attitude that EJ takes far to often. Coupled with that fact that his Princeton offense is performed at a mediocre level with this squad--EJ needs to go if the Wiz fail to advance past this series.

Posted by: NYCWizFan | April 22, 2008 11:43 AM

So does gil opt out now? Do the wiz resign him or sign him to a max deal?

Posted by: is gil out | April 22, 2008 11:55 AM

Call him LeBully, LeCry...Whatever, butLebron is the most explosive athletic and multidimensional player the NBA has ever seen. Everybody blames him when things go wrong, your team is losing because they are not focused and they dont think beyond round 1.

If I was a Wiz fan, I am not, I would hope my team gets out of this now. This is embarrassing. Its ok to talk trash, but they have no edge, if you talk trash before a game history shows you increase your chances of losing.

TRADE Stevenson, he is an embarrassment to your franchise.

AND GET RID OF THOSE UGLY JERSEYS!!!!!

Posted by: Go Ahead Blame LeBron for World Hunger! | April 22, 2008 12:09 PM

"The fact is that this team gets blown out far to often for all of it's talent. "

The real fact is that this team doesn't have nearly as much of the right kind of talent as the fans like to think it does.

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2008 12:19 PM

If I am not mistaken, when GA came back he was the second person off the bench, after RM. He usually played with RM as his back court mate. Why is coming into the game first off the bench with AD??? As I see it, the CAVS do not respect AD's outside shooting. This line up allows AD's man to double CB. IMO, if you bring in GA play him with RM, thus you have two shooters in the back court, which stops the double team on CB, and therefore he can go to work.

Posted by: bullets_0000 | April 22, 2008 12:32 PM

The Wizards need to break out that Cap style of motivation and get back in this series. They will have home court advantage (although no refs in their pocket) so they should be able to win the next couple of games in DC.

Posted by: charlie | April 22, 2008 12:33 PM

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Posted by: Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:40 PM

This was one bad loss. We should not overreact. We should stick with the offense, D up on the Lebrons, and focus on winning Game 3.

We have a great GM, a great coach, and great talent in place. It's insane to make major offseason changes. It's just tough to win playoff games when the refereeing is one-sided (guess who the suits want to win this series!), and your best 2 players are nowhere near 100%.

Posted by: Dellis | April 22, 2008 12:45 PM

Please stop making excuses. LeBron is a force greater than the opposition. He is as they called him in high school a "Phenomenon".

The only way to beat LeBron is for the Wizards to play TEAM BALL. Not foul ball.

LeBron is too great!

LeBron is the King!

Trade deshaun!!!! aka little soldier

Posted by: Blame LeBron... Yeah Right | April 22, 2008 1:07 PM

Is Lebron's personal assistant or top groupie posting on this blog?

Posted by: see poster above | April 22, 2008 1:10 PM

choking to the bulls? a last second shot is not choking. wiz's need to do more than whine. if i want to listen to whining i can turn on sport talk radio in the districtg

Posted by: joe | April 22, 2008 1:37 PM

wait til next year.

Posted by: stick | April 22, 2008 2:14 PM

No disputing the horrible play by our big 3 but let's not forget the Cavs won on their home court as expected. Things should "hopefully" change when the venue switches back to DC.

As stated before, there are two many mismatches for the Wiz not to take advantage of. Butler should be drooling when Wally is guarding him. Same for Jamison with Big Ben. Stop taking soft jumpers on the perimeter and drive to the bucket! And please, put a hand in the face of the Cavs and don't give them a wide open shot.

Posted by: Wizzz | April 22, 2008 4:23 PM

"If I am not mistaken, when GA came back he was the second person off the bench, after RM. He usually played with RM as his back court mate. Why is coming into the game first off the bench with AD???"

I wondered about that too. I assume it's because Jordan was trying to amp up the offense with Gilbert on the floor, while, at the same time, making sure everyone stayed involved by having Daniels run the point. Not only did that not work, but it put the the reserves at a disadvantage, because having Mason run the point took away from his focus on his own scoring, which the desperately needed.

Posted by: kalorama | April 22, 2008 7:46 PM

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