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Haywood to LeBron: stop the whining

After going through a practice today at the VC, Coach Eddie Jordan and several Wizards tried to put the best possible face on the team's brutal predicament. The Wiz are down 3-1 and need a win at Cleveland, where they have lost four straight in the playoffs, on Wednesday night to prevent yet another first-round loss to the LeBron James and the Cavs.

It's not looking good.

Jordan, Gilbert Arenas and Roger Mason Jr. all talked about going into Cleveland, playing hard and trying to get the series back to Washington for Game 6. The fun began when Brendan Haywood, after talking about the same thing for a bit, was asked about LeBron James saying that the Wizards "want to hurt LeBron James" after yesterday's game.

James was referring to the flagrant 1 foul DeShawn Stevenson put on him yesterday. James claimed that Stevenson hit him with a fist. Stevenson said he was going for the ball. Replays showed that Stevenson indeed made contact with the top of James' head, thus knocking his headband off, but the part of his arm that made contact was the forearm, not his hand and certainly not a fist. The flagrant 1 seemed appropriate. James felt differently.

"I definitely saw DeShawn coming, but I didn't know that he hit me with a closed fist until one of my teammates told me," James said. "If we were on the park, something definitely would have escalated. If we was on the park where I grew up playing a lot of basketball, something would have happened. But I guess that's what I want to do. They want to hurt LeBron James. It's not going to work."

And yes, James used the third person. That was spectacular.

After hearing the question about what James said today, Haywood puckered his face up like a baby and said: "Oooh, they're trying to hurt me!" before turning serious.

"C'mon man, this is the playoffs. He wears 23 and he wants to be Michael Jordan. I respect that because he's a great player. But look what Mike went through. Mike got fouled way worse than this. You know what I'm saying? Nobody is trying to hurt him. Everybody is trying to play basketball, trying to win, trying to play tough. Leave it alone."

For the record, James turned to referee Danny Crawford and said: "Danny, they're trying to hurt me!" while rubbing his elbow after Haywood's flagrant 2 foul in Game 2. He didn't use the third person that time though so it wasn't nearly as funny.

Haywood on whether he's ever heard an NBA player claim that another team is trying to hurt them: "No, I don't ever remember a player coming out and saying that another team is blatantly trying to hurt me but the game has changed a lot. Back in the day, you couldn't have said that just because of the nature of the game with the Bad Boy Pistons, the Knicks...you would have been seen as flat-out soft. But that is how the game has changed. They are not about flagrant fouls or tough play. It's all about fluid motion and scoring a lot of points so it's different. When I was growing up, you never heard that. I never heard Magic say it. Or Mike. Or Larry (Bird)."

By Ivan Carter  |  April 28, 2008; 1:24 PM ET
 
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I'd like to hurt LeBron James.

Posted by: Chinatown | April 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

me too.

Posted by: Adam | April 28, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Me 3. I also wanna add that Jay-Z is a bama 4 life for putting out a diss song about somebody who never even mentioned his name! Only Lebron said his name. But it makes sense being as though he picks battles that he knows he can win. But his old ass gets quiet and disappears when a real threat (Dipset, Nas, Wayne) steps to him. Then he becomes "the president of DefJam". He a sucker

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Nice!

It didn't even take 1 post to get people who want to actually cause physical harm to LeBron.

Kudos Wiz fans, at least you arent denying it like your thug life team does.

I just hope they use metal detectors on the Wiz players on Weds.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

LeBron is having virtually everything go his way and he is still whining? It's too bad the Wiz don't seem to have what it takes to use that against him.

Posted by: low | April 28, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards just need to keep their composure in Game 5. Don't give these biased refs any excuse to make any more phantom calls.

Play hard, but smart.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Damn, I almost forgot to bash Damon "i'm way to old for a mohawk" Jones. First off, What idiot at Love decided that it would be a good idea to let Damon Jones get on the mic. Its DAMON JONES!!!! Its bad enough that they let a diss song be played about one of the city's stars (who is ALWAYS at the club), but then play it 5 times and then let a nobody get on the mic and trash him. Damon Jones is garbage. He's nothing more than a paid flunkie. He was Shaq's flunkie (until Shaq realized he was some garbage and that he was the reason they didn't get past Detroit that year). And now he's Lebron's flunkie.

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards just need to keep their composure in Game 5. Don't give these biased refs any excuse to make any more phantom calls.

Play hard, but smart.

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Wizards play smart? Why start now?

I also hope there are no more "phantom calls" any more of those and LeBron could really get hurt. LeBron might go into the 3rd or 4th row instead of the 1st or 2nd.

I would just be happy if the Wiz at least TRIED to make it look like they are actually playing basketball.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Normally the team that is whining is the team that is losing. But somehow that is not the case in this series and that makes things even more embarrasing for the Wiz.

Posted by: low | April 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Just stop jacking up 3s early in possessions and we will be fine. We made our comeback at the end by attacking the basket and executing. If we had done that all day, we would have won convincingly. If we had bothered to rebound on the defensive end, we would have won another game by 30+. We are the better team, so winning 3 straight is definitely not impossible.

Posted by: playoff beard | April 28, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Not to be pedantic, but the Wiz have actually lost 5 straight playoff games in Cleveland.

'08 (1&2)
'07 (1&2
'06 (Game 5).

Last win was Game 2 in '06. They own us

Posted by: Kev | April 28, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Next on my hitlist is Mike "DONT U HURT MY BABY!!!" Brown. LMAO. I remember back in the day, I used to play football outside everyday after school. The field was right in front of my balcony so my mother could watch me play. Now, I was always the smallest dude out there (at times playing with dudes who was triple my size), and when I get hit my mother would always cringe. But she never ever ever ran out there to tell them not stop hitting me so hard.
So why the hell does Mike Brown run out on the court every time Lebron, who is 6'9, 260 (uhh... Balco, anybody?) gets fouled? There has got to be a rule put in that keeps the coach in the coaches box no matter what happens on the floor. I commend Eddie for not stooping to his mellow dramatic ways.

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I thought Stevenson got all ball. LeBonbon deliberately stuck his melon in there to create the contact.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Next on my hitlist is Mike "DONT U HURT MY BABY!!!" Brown. LMAO. I remember back in the day, I used to play football outside everyday after school. The field was right in front of my balcony so my mother could watch me play. Now, I was always the smallest dude out there (at times playing with dudes who was triple my size), and when I get hit my mother would always cringe. But she never ever ever ran out there to tell them not stop hitting me so hard.
So why the hell does Mike Brown run out on the court every time Lebron, who is 6'9, 260 (uhh... Balco, anybody?) gets fouled? There has got to be a rule put in that keeps the coach in the coaches box no matter what happens on the floor. I commend Eddie for not stooping to his mellow dramatic ways.

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You would defend your meal ticket too.

Eddie Jordan doesnt have to worry about it because CAVS players arent trying to cheap shot your players out of the game.

You should commend the CAVS for shutting up and playing basketball, not Eddie Jordan.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I thought Stevenson got all ball. LeBonbon deliberately stuck his melon in there to create the contact.

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Me too. It is totally uncharacteristic of a guy like Stevenson to do something like that.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

And last but not least on my list, is Mike Tirico for dogging the Wiz fans just because we weren't chanting overrated anymore. It was a one time thing Mike. It was funny to the fans. It was funny to Lebron. Hell, we'd much rather boo than to chant overrated everytime he touches the ball. And stop over selling everything Lebron does. Yeah, he's great. But over selling a pass out the double team is a lil bit excessive to me.

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz should just shut up until their season ends on Wednesday night. After getting out rebounded by 20, you really shouldnt say anything. BTW, most of the Cavs were in foul trouble at the end of the game, so its hard to say that the refs were biased.

Posted by: Black | April 28, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Eddie does defend his players. Just not to the extent of running on the court everytime a foul occurs. And if I recall, Lebron cheap shotted Blatche with an elbow and Varejao picked up a flagrant 1 against Blatche as well. So the Cavs did take cheap shots against the Wiz. The only cheap shot from the Wiz was when Haywood pushed Lebron in the air. Other than that, they've been hard fouls. And Lebron needs to watch the replay instead of listening to hear say to see if Deshawn took a swipe at him

Posted by: C.Bell | April 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

btw pat im a quitter riley is about to step down as heat coach. that is until the next guy gets em rollin again and then riley will swoop down and kick the guy out ala stan van gundy and take over again. he just wants some1 else to do all the dirty work. what a loser.

Posted by: dk | April 28, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

It's time for Gilbert to take the numbing shots. Why not put DMac out there to get some rebounds? Wiz gotta get off to a quick start and sustain it on Wed. Wiz even got outrebounded in their 36-point win.

Posted by: T-Train | April 28, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

i was at thursdays game. and it was great. everything about it. but it was weird. after we won the game, the verizon ctr shot confetti into the air.
i turned to my son and said, thats whats wrong with this team. you dont celebrate like that unless you win the series. one game, especially when youre down, means nuthin.

but they acted like they had just won the series or maybe were afraid they wouldnt win another game at home--both being wrong mindsets-- so they wanted to celebrate.

thats the difference between teams that know and act like theyre good and belong and teams that dont.

also the white out thursday was cool even if we did steal the idea. but to do it again sunday is just been there done that. come up with somethin new. everything about sunday had a 2nd hand feeling--including the ending.

Posted by: dk | April 28, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz are obviously not trying to hurt LeBron. LeBron is smart, he is playing to the media and the refs. Annoying? I think so, but its definately smart. The Wizards came out and said that they would commit good, hard, playoff fouls on LeBron which was incredibly stupid. You can do it, but you cant say it. And Haywood is right, Jordan had a bullseye on his chest his whole career and he never whined about getting fouled. LeBron is one of the best players in the game, his biggest strength is getting to the hoop, and he is getting an advantage by putting it in the refs heads that the Wiz are trying to hurt him. He is a smart crybaby.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Referring to himself in the third person. Before game two someone made a comment about the fact that he wouldn't be surprised if Lebron began referring to himself in the first person.

Good Call! LOL

Also Lebron is the biggest crybaby there is. He is also the biggest flopper who doesn't have to flop. For example. During game one, he came up, after a foul, checking his mouth (Which he does a lot, Must have fake teeth that he doesn't want to fall out). I assumed that he had been hit in the mouth so I looked at the replay. The contact was on the arm and only the arm. He came nowhere close to the mouth.

GIVE ME A BREAK!

signed, Pampered by the officials

Posted by: Alex | April 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Eddie does defend his players. Just not to the extent of running on the court everytime a foul occurs. And if I recall, Lebron cheap shotted Blatche with an elbow and Varejao picked up a flagrant 1 against Blatche as well. So the Cavs did take cheap shots against the Wiz. The only cheap shot from the Wiz was when Haywood pushed Lebron in the air. Other than that, they've been hard fouls. And Lebron needs to watch the replay instead of listening to hear say to see if Deshawn took a swipe at him

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I agree, Wiz fouls are clean and have no malicious intent at all.

I think Eddie actually stands up more often to congratulate his players when they cheap shot someone. I think they get awards. The cheaper the foul, the better!! I bet Stevenson got a bigger bonus than Haywood because he didnt get ejected for his.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz should just shut up until their season ends on Wednesday night. After getting out rebounded by 20, you really shouldnt say anything. BTW, most of the Cavs were in foul trouble at the end of the game, so its hard to say that the refs were biased.

Posted by: Black | April 28, 2008 2:32 PM


The refs aren't Cleveland biased they are Lebron biased. How about the most obvious travel in history in game 4 when Lebron decided to take a short trip from the free throw line to the base line in the area between the paint and the 3-point arch ball in hand. That travel was so obvious that I couldn't even complain, just sit there utter shock.

Posted by: Alex | April 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz are obviously not trying to hurt LeBron. LeBron is smart, he is playing to the media and the refs. Annoying? I think so, but its definately smart. The Wizards came out and said that they would commit good, hard, playoff fouls on LeBron which was incredibly stupid. You can do it, but you cant say it. And Haywood is right, Jordan had a bullseye on his chest his whole career and he never whined about getting fouled. LeBron is one of the best players in the game, his biggest strength is getting to the hoop, and he is getting an advantage by putting it in the refs heads that the Wiz are trying to hurt him. He is a smart crybaby.

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What makes the Wiz and their fans even more angry than LeBron touching his mouth is that he is getting up at all.

Thank god this will be over soon so we don't have to worry about one of the best players in the league getting seriously injured for no better reason than he is playing (and beating) a bunch of thugs (besides AJ).

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

hey, wood.
get the hell out of here.

Posted by: yeah but you still live in cleveland | April 28, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

hey, wood.
get the hell out of here.

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I hope to, and with any luck, it will be with an un-injured LeBron.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about you guys, but I'm watching as much of the other playoff games on TV as I can. As for hard fouls, so far most of the commentary (both ESPN & TNT) I've heard is something like 'expect hard fouls, it's the playoffs'. I heard Reggie Miller say that. Sorry I don't know the other on air announcers by name. And they were talking about Denver, LosAngeles, San Antonio, Dallas, New Orleans, Detroit, Philadelphia, etc.
So Cleveland & Washington are clearly not the only teams exchanging hard fouls.

Posted by: rgz | April 28, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

We don't care that he gets back up or that he gets 30 a night or any of that. We only want him to do it without an unfair advantage which he knows he gets and takes advantage of him.

Also I am tired of hearing that Lebron is the bigger man. Sure what Stevenson said was dumb and no one in their right mind would consider James overrated. For us it is just fun. But when Lebron throws a party, invites the wizards, and then plays the song that the idiot Jay Z made. This kind of feuding, which if lebron was the bigger man he would stop, is going to get someone hurt or worse. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Posted by: Alex | April 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Uh Wood..What about the blow to the side of Andre Blatche's face by Lebron. But that doesn't count because it was delivered by the Queen? What about that? Carry your Lebron worshipping Bull back to the Cav websites. We ain't buying it here! Go Wiz!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow, LeBron is just so heroic.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

And Damon Jones is a funny looking, mowhawk wearing, bench riding, country talking BAMA! Did he even get in the game?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about you guys, but I'm watching as much of the other playoff games on TV as I can. As for hard fouls, so far most of the commentary (both ESPN & TNT) I've heard is something like 'expect hard fouls, it's the playoffs'. I heard Reggie Miller say that. Sorry I don't know the other on air announcers by name. And they were talking about Denver, LosAngeles, San Antonio, Dallas, New Orleans, Detroit, Philadelphia, etc.
So Cleveland & Washington are clearly not the only teams exchanging hard fouls.

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However, the Wiz are the only team to admit it BEFORE they did it, continually target the same player, and get ejected for it.

On a good note, they have made themselves the laughing stock of the playoffs.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Mark has never heard a star who whines as much as him. Mark remembers back when Bill Laimbeer used to make that same face after not getting a call. Mark respects leBron's game but hates the way he begs for calls. Mark doesn't think he needs to do that because he'll get the calls anyway. Mark likes to refer to himself in the 3rd person. It makes Mark feel special.
Yeah we'll probably lose the series but at least we don't have to come up with a new excuse. We can use the same one we've used for 3 years...we're injured. It's never good to use an excuse but it IS true.

Posted by: mark | April 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

i'm not naive, i know stevenson put something extra into that foul. that said - HE GOT A TON OF BALL BEFORE EVEN HITTING DuhBron!

wizards partially brought it on themselves, but the perception that they are trying to hurt DuhBron is a myth. Successfully cultivated by cavs, their fans, commentators.
look at kidd's foul last night for an idea of what has no place in the game.

Posted by: yeah but you still live in cleveland | April 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Reading all these comments during the playoffs makes me laugh, but sometimes it also makes me a little angry.
I'm a Cleveland fan who has lived in DC for 3 years and was at the game last night. It was a great game and exactly what I wanted to see. The Cavs deserved to win that game. If I was EJ, I wouldn't have given that last shot to Gilbert. Yes, he did tie the game, but I don't think that was the right call. See, I've been a Cavs fan forever(I have been since I was 11 and my family moved to Cleveland so that is almost 20 years) but I am also a fan of the NBA and I actually follow the Wizards and have all season.

Anyway, the Wizards should really just shut their mouths right now and focus on Game 5. Let LeBron say whatever he wants to; he has proven himself on the court in this series, and has mostly taken the high road. He hasn't let any of this distract him. And DeShawn did hit him in the head with the flagrant foul, whether it was intentional or not. Even my friend who is a Wizards fan admitted that when he saw the replay. It was the correct call.

He is a great player; the "overrated" chants sounded really stupid yesterday. The biggest reason why the Wizards lost? They got killed on the boards. Maybe they should focus on that instead of making fun of LeBron. It clearly doesn't effect or bother him and he is going home to play in front of a home crowd that is going to be going crazy!!

Oh and for people who have dissed the city of Cleveland in this comments section since the playoffs started; grow up. Cleveland is s city that has been hit particularly hard economically, and if the fans there take great pleasure in their basketball team, well let them! I grew up having Michael Jordan kill our playoff hopes every year. Did I hate him? No, I watched him in awe and wished he played for Cleveland!

Posted by: CavsGirl | April 28, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Final word on LeBron...
Great player. Top 2 or 3 in the league. whiner. It sure would be nice to root for the guy. Even when Mike, Bird, and Earvin were kicking our arses, we appreciated their games. it's hard to do that with james because he's hard to like unless you're a Cav fan.

Posted by: mark | April 28, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Uh Wood..What about the blow to the side of Andre Blatche's face by Lebron. But that doesn't count because it was delivered by the Queen? What about that? Carry your Lebron worshipping Bull back to the Cav websites. We ain't buying it here! Go Wiz!

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Yeah he gave a forearm shiver to Blatche after Bltache hit him in the face the prvious play and didn't get called. Did you miss that part?

2 wrongs doesnt make a right, but would you rather he sits and takes all of the cheap shots and does absolutely nothing to retaliate? Would he not be a sissy then in your eyes? Considering the cheap hits he has taken OVER AND OVER, 1 retaliation is the LEAST the Wiz should get.

I far from worship LeBron, he should be a better jump shooter, FT shooter, 3pt shooter, and defender. I just don't condone thug play, from any team. Andy V's foul on Blatche was bush league, but a far cry from at least 2 of the fouls the Wiz have put on LeBron.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Ivan, man, come on. Did you really have to throw (Bird) in parentheses there? Were you worried we'd think it was Magic, Mike, and Larry (Hughes)?

Posted by: bws | April 28, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I also meant to say Damon Jones is an agitating buck toothed bama! What a joke that dude is. Bench rider!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Final word on LeBron...
Great player. Top 2 or 3 in the league. whiner. It sure would be nice to root for the guy. Even when Mike, Bird, and Earvin were kicking our arses, we appreciated their games. it's hard to do that with james because he's hard to like unless you're a Cav fan.

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LeBron being is hard to like for Wiz fans and Detroit fans. He is an icon in the sprots world already. You don't get that way if you are "hard to like"

See Barry Lamar Bonds if you don't believe me.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I believe Damon Jones put you out of the playoffs before

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

re: being an icon + likability:
you get that way when you are identified at 15 or 16 as a freakishly talented athlete and the hype/marketing machine starts paying you and promoting you before you have achieved anything.

let me be clear-he is a talent unlike anyone i've ever seen in basketball. unstoppable. good for you.
and he is not over-rated, but he is so over-hyped it makes me not like the NBA. and he travels, and gets calls in his favor. those things however, rarely impact the outcomes of games, but they give fans a reason to doubt the fairness of the playing field. it sucks, and he's not the only one to benefit from it, just the most obvious example of it.

so, i think he is just like barry bonds - people in SF (cleveland in this case) love him, while everyone else hates him.

Posted by: yeah but you still live in cleveland | April 28, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

These articles are getting a bit out of hand. Haywood, can you get the point. Stop running your damn mouth. Can a coach get to these criminals already and tell them to shut up. Cavs need to hurry up and put them out so we can all get to a basketball series and cut out the mouthing off. Wizards are bringing squirt guns to a canon fight.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I agree with Wood, LeBron is just about as likable as Barry Bonds.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Someone please tell me if they agree or not. I am a massive bullets/wizards fan but i have to call it like i see it. D. stevenson has got to go...he's had one good playoff game out of 8 in the last two years...even in the good game he was dropping 3 pointers mostly when the wiz were up 20+...let's look at the downside: NOT CLUTCH 7 out of 8 stinkers; dumb turnovers; the cross court pass in the first half; two horrible 3point attempts yesterday...one on a fast break (a brick) and one in the motion in the offense except he caught it and did a turn around 3 pointer (high percentage shot)...total knucklehead for all the lebron chat...
in fact the only good thing about ds is supposedly his defense but when you plan on doubling lebron anyway you might as well have roger mason on defense because he is such a more dynamic offensive threat. Using ds as part of a double is wasting whatever good defense he plays---that part is jordan's fault...he needs to go too...

Posted by: izzy from ny | April 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

LeBron shud join WNBA

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Actually, the Wiz players need to join the WNBA, maybe they could get out of the 1st round of the playoffs then.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

2 wrongs doesnt make a right, but would you rather he sits and takes all of the cheap shots and does absolutely nothing to retaliate? Would he not be a sissy then in your eyes? Considering the cheap hits he has taken OVER AND OVER, 1 retaliation is the LEAST the Wiz should get.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:01 PM

Sorry Wood, Lebron gets hit driving to the basket, the same exact way that Blatche got hit driving to the basket, the same way that Daniels got hit, Stevenson got hit, etc. The cheap shots are the elbows to the face after the play. No Wizard has done that. I've lost a lot of respect for Lebron this series. I used to think of him as a stand-up guy, but he's been showing his lack of class throughout the series. All he does is hypocritically mock the Wizards players by saying "oh you know, we don't get into that stuff", all the while he's doing the same things. It's like I'm watching a satire on how to be a classy athlete, and Lebron is the main character. Be a man, shut your mouth, and play the game. You're a great player, but FAR from a great role-model for the game.

And that's not to say that the wizards are innocent. But they don't represent the NBA the way Lebron does. He's a far cry from the days of Jordan/Magic/Bird.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Izzy, you have the most sense of all the Wiz posters right now.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

izzy - before this series i would not have agreed with you - he had a solid year, especially given what he's expected to do and what the team is paying him.

but now? his shot selection could not have been worse down the stretch yesterday. we have plenty of shot-jackers on this team. he needs to be the guy who helps settle the team down and provide grit and toughness. ON THE COURT! not with his damn mouth off it.

i'd be ok with him playing elsewhere next year (good luck getting any value for him now)

Posted by: yeah but you still live in cleveland | April 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

re: being an icon + likability:
you get that way when you are identified at 15 or 16 as a freakishly talented athlete and the hype/marketing machine starts paying you and promoting you before you have achieved anything.

let me be clear-he is a talent unlike anyone i've ever seen in basketball. unstoppable. good for you.
and he is not over-rated, but he is so over-hyped it makes me not like the NBA. and he travels, and gets calls in his favor. those things however, rarely impact the outcomes of games, but they give fans a reason to doubt the fairness of the playing field. it sucks, and he's not the only one to benefit from it, just the most obvious example of it.

so, i think he is just like barry bonds - people in SF (cleveland in this case) love him, while everyone else hates him.

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Your argument is awful. I want you to check 2 things for me.


1. Road game attendance
2. Top 5 selling jerseys in the NBA
3. All star voting (by the fans)
4. Nationally televised games per team

Many, many people like him, I am sorry that you don't. Maybe if he got caught with some weed, or perhaps DUI, or even better rape allegations, or my favorite spousal abuse? Maybe then people would start "hating" him more than they already do.

Only bitter fans hate LeBron (ie: Detroit and Washington fans)

Is it LeBron's fault people started this in high school???

Give me a break.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

If you like Cleveland that much "Cleveland girl, why are you living here? Enough said. Go celebrate elsewhere. We don't care whether you "followed the Wiz all season or not. You cheered for the Cavaliers so we know were your loyalty's lie. Cleveland sucks! Dirty city full of Bama's!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

So Wiz fans, are you saying that you wouldnt trade anyone on your team for LeBron?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Bama these.............

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

actually the wizards can't beat the Cavs because the playoffs are fixed. the league wants Jebron in there because he is a draw.

But you don't hear Deshawn and Hibachi crying about it do you?

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

They did all of their crying before the series.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

someone on here is acting like they are 4 years old, when things dont go your way start name calling.........dirty city......Bamas.........grow up, your metality replicates Stevenson's........is that you Deshawn

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

And take Wood with you. Can't you guys find like fans on your own posts to talk with? Oh I forgot, it's Cleveland! Do you all even have blogs on which to posts? Just wondering since you all seem to be here. Lebron's got mad game but is an Arrogant Ahole with his smug self. Humble is not his middle name.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Wood, Lebron gets hit driving to the basket, the same exact way that Blatche got hit driving to the basket, the same way that Daniels got hit, Stevenson got hit, etc. The cheap shots are the elbows to the face after the play. No Wizard has done that. I've lost a lot of respect for Lebron this series. I used to think of him as a stand-up guy, but he's been showing his lack of class throughout the series. All he does is hypocritically mock the Wizards players by saying "oh you know, we don't get into that stuff", all the while he's doing the same things. It's like I'm watching a satire on how to be a classy athlete, and Lebron is the main character. Be a man, shut your mouth, and play the game. You're a great player, but FAR from a great role-model for the game.

And that's not to say that the wizards are innocent. But they don't represent the NBA the way Lebron does. He's a far cry from the days of Jordan/Magic/Bird.

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Who on the Wiz has gotten jacked out of bounds while defenseless in the air?

And Stevenson's foul wasnt malicious? Come on you are better than that (I hope)

I can honestly say though, this is the first time I have EVER heard anybody get mad at LeBron for NOT engaging in the Wizards tomfoolery.

Let me guess, you would like him more if he said to Arenas "Oh yeah Gilbert, I know you want us but we are gonna kick your ass" Give me a break.

Some times I wish LeBron did stoop to the Wiz level so that they would get what's coming to them. I commend the whole Cavaliers team for not getting caught up in the garbage that the Wiz have perpetrated on this series. Shut up and play ball.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

LOL Haywood is hilarious!

1. Haywood would destroy Lebron in a fight.

2. Lebron is the softest SF in the NBA.

3. Lebron gave the cheapest shot in this entire series to Blatche, yet all we hear about from Cavs is their poor baby Lebron getting slapped in the noggin by Stevenson.

They're trying to hurt me!

LMAO.

Posted by: Lebron is Gay | April 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see the foul Jason Kidd put on Pargo of the Hornets last night?? It was much worse than Haywood's foul on Lebron. Kidd was tossed but after the game, Chris Paul said he did not think Kidd was trying to hurt Pargo. Chris Paul is a mature young man...unlike whiny Lebron.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah when did they cry before the series.

and no I wouldn't trade anyone for JeBron. not even songaila. jebron is scum.

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

BTH has shown some good maturity and veteran leadership this season. His no nonsense approach hopefully will rub off on others on this team, namely DS and some of the goofball young guys.

If DS doesn't bring it on Wednesday, he's going to have a long, suffering summer.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

which 2 out of those 4 things did you want me to check?

#1 - i'll give you that, to a degree. but people want to see the best players, not the same as liking them and rooting for them.
people loved going to see bonds, but not because they wanted to root for him.


#2 - FRONTRUNNERS (get used to that, Wood)

#3 - same as #1.

#4 - really? nationally televised games as something other than the league promoting it's chosen stars? come on.

Posted by: yeah but you still live in cleveland | April 28, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Why would a rape allegation hurt LeBron's popularity? Kobe Bryant still as popular as ever.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

If I were LeBron I would be arrogant when it came to the Wizards too. Remember, you called him Overrated. He is just trying to prove you wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

open your eyes bamas!
THE PLAYOFFS ARE FIXED.


"Your argument is awful. I want you to check 2 things for me.
1. Road game attendance
2. Top 5 selling jerseys in the NBA
3. All star voting (by the fans)
4. Nationally televised games per team"

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

prescrunk is a damn fool

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Well if they are fixed stop watching then. If you lose they are fixed, if you win you team is good. People please.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Leave me alone guys, I live in Cleveland. :(

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

lol OWNED!

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

How does being arrogant prove that you're not overrated?

More amazing logic from the intelligent community of Cleveland.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Wood,
Enjoy LeBron for the next couple years because after that he'll be in NYC and you'll still be in Cleveland. Better win that chip soon...

Posted by: DT | April 28, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

which 2 out of those 4 things did you want me to check?

#1 - i'll give you that, to a degree. but people want to see the best players, not the same as liking them and rooting for them.
people loved going to see bonds, but not because they wanted to root for him.


#2 - FRONTRUNNERS (get used to that, Wood)

#3 - same as #1.

#4 - really? nationally televised games as something other than the league promoting it's chosen stars? come on.

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1. So the people who come to watch him couldn't possibly like him?

2. Frontrunners don't count as people who like LeBron now?

3. So the people who vote for LeBron couldnt possibly like him?

4. The NBA put him on because people like to watch him, I would imagine some of them actually like him.

And this is all in response to "everyone hates him".

Please

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

at least I identify myself you anonymous jebron scum reviling bama

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Well then I will move to NYC too, because I love Cleveland. Maybe LeTravel will give me a job holding his jock strap.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

OK all of the "the city of Cleveland sucks" blasts are preschool. Dont make me start running down everything wrong with DC. I refrained from it so far

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Wood,
Enjoy LeBron for the next couple years because after that he'll be in NYC and you'll still be in Cleveland. Better win that chip soon...

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And?

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

prescrunk.......your momma

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

which 2 out of those 4 things did you want me to check?

#1 - i'll give you that, to a degree. but people want to see the best players, not the same as liking them and rooting for them.
people loved going to see bonds, but not because they wanted to root for him.


#2 - FRONTRUNNERS (get used to that, Wood)

#3 - same as #1.

#4 - really? nationally televised games as something other than the league promoting it's chosen stars? come on.

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Sorry, I meant 4 things.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Haha Cleveland is a dump. I'll talk about that all night. If you want to compare to DC, we'll have even more fun.

Posted by: Cleveland - a godawful place to live | April 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I can honestly say though, this is the first time I have EVER heard anybody get mad at LeBron for NOT engaging in the Wizards tomfoolery.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:29 PM

No, you've got it wrong. What I don't like is that he SAYS he's not engaging in it, but then he DOES all the stupid antics on the court (mocking deshawn's "i can't feel my face", mocking the fans with gestures, etc.), and off the court (the whole jay-z/soulja boy thing, talking about "they want to hurt Lebron James", "if this was on the street, something would've escalated", etc. crap). If he wants to be a bad-boy tough guy, then come out full force and don't put up a front. He's such a great player, and it's a shame that he also has such a hypocritical personality.

I cannot respect a person who isn't genuine. Lebron James is not a genuine person. Talks one way, walks another. That's something I can't respect, no matter how talented.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

ok wood - let's settle it scientifically.
who here likes lebron?

Posted by: yeah but you still live in cleveland | April 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

rgz, Cleveland and Washington are far from the only teams exchanging hard fouls in the playoffs. The difference is that the other teams doing it (a) have been doing it all season, so it's no big deal to the refs and opponents when it happens; they expect it (b) know how to do it in the flow of the game in a way that doesn't make it look like a desperation move and (c) don't advertise it in the media before the game even starts.

Posted by: kalorama | April 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

What's amazing is that the Game 4 winner by Delonte West is probably in Cleveland's all time Top 10 greatest moments. Not sports moments mind you, but greatest moments ever for people of the city of Cleveland.

Posted by: oh hai | April 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Well then I will move to NYC too, because I love Cleveland. Maybe LeTravel will give me a job holding his jock strap.

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Nah, I will still be here rooting for my CAVS like I have been since before the Price/Doughtery era. Will it be sad if he goes? Sure.

But I will still root for him (just not against the CAVS) because he is an Ohio boy, just like me.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

So Wood, I'm just wondering--have you purchased your LeBron Knicks jersey yet, or are you just waiting until next year when it's official and you can jump to the next bandwagon?

LeBron is no Kobe, my friend, and he never will be. One day the calls won't fall his way any more--and you can ask Dwayne Wade how much fun it is to be an NBA "superstar" when the refs stop looking out for you.

Posted by: Keep crying, Cleveland | April 28, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Maybe but the bottom line is we are KICKIN YOUR AZZ......DEAL WITH IT

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"But I will still root for him (just not against the CAVS) because he is an Ohio boy, just like me."

LMAO

Posted by: LMAO | April 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

yeah he is ohio scum who roots for the spankees over the injuns, the cowboys over the browns, and the bulls over his own f'ing team. i can't wait til he opts out and all you cav bamas will be wishing you could return the same jebron jersey that everyone else has

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

No, you've got it wrong. What I don't like is that he SAYS he's not engaging in it, but then he DOES all the stupid antics on the court (mocking deshawn's "i can't feel my face", mocking the fans with gestures, etc.), and off the court (the whole jay-z/soulja boy thing, talking about "they want to hurt Lebron James", "if this was on the street, something would've escalated", etc. crap). If he wants to be a bad-boy tough guy, then come out full force and don't put up a front. He's such a great player, and it's a shame that he also has such a hypocritical personality.

I cannot respect a person who isn't genuine. Lebron James is not a genuine person. Talks one way, walks another. That's something I can't respect, no matter how talented.

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No, I'm right. LeBron puts his team first, do you really want him to freaking get in a fight with Stevenson???

He would never do that. If he gets ejected, the team loses. Period

So you get mad when he mocks Stevenson's stupid gesture, AND you get mad when he doesnt get in a fight.

Makes sense. Bottom line is, everyone knows the Wiz are getting clowned, and it is noone's fault but their own.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

But even though he wears a Yankees hat everywhere and never lives in Cleveland in the off-season and secretly prefers to be as far from the mid-west as possible, he is STILL a Cleveland boy, just like me.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

So Wood, I'm just wondering--have you purchased your LeBron Knicks jersey yet, or are you just waiting until next year when it's official and you can jump to the next bandwagon?

LeBron is no Kobe, my friend, and he never will be. One day the calls won't fall his way any more--and you can ask Dwayne Wade how much fun it is to be an NBA "superstar" when the refs stop looking out for you.

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No, I won't buy a jersey if/when he leaves.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

He is a Cleveland boy, just like me. That's why we all post on the Washington Wizards blog all day.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is a Cleveland boy, just like me.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I think LeBron is a great player, but has ZERO class and is a crybaby. He's won no championships like Kobe, yet constantly is complaining to the refs, media, etc. I actually like to see Kobe play even if he is arrogant because he's a MAN and accepts hard fouls as part of the game. Even after winning a close game, LeTravel had to disrespect his opponent. Without the refs, the Cavs would not have one Game 1 and LeBron would have been on the bench with his 3rd foul in the 2nd quarter before DSS's flagrant foul ("closed fist").

Wood - try the Cleveland Plain-Dealer website where loyal Cavs fans said LeBron will leave as soon as he can opt out of his contract after they lost Game 3.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 28, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

But even though he wears a Yankees hat everywhere and never lives in Cleveland in the off-season and secretly prefers to be as far from the mid-west as possible, he is STILL a Cleveland boy, just like me.

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He lives in Akron in the off season, and his new home is almost finished in Akron.

He can be a Yankees fan, many youngsters fall into the "front-runner" vibe in middle/high school. I don't care if he likes the Yankees. Why do you?

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is a Cleveland boy, just like me.


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Ohio, not Cleveland specifically.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if he likes the Yanknees because he's a good old boy from Ohio, just like me. Cleve-land. Say it with me now, Cleve-land. It's a cool place to live when you're ready to die.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

It's Ohio, not Cleveland. Ohio is greater than the sum of its parts. That's why me and Lebron are Ohio boys and we will live here forever.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

No, I'm right. LeBron puts his team first, do you really want him to freaking get in a fight with Stevenson???

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:46 PM

was it my imagination, or did i see lebron step to stevenson after the play was over? i could've sworn that's the way it went down, not the other way around.

or maybe i was just imagining the elbow to blatche's face after the play. yea, that must've been my imagination too.

please keep in mind, if blatche or stevenson or haywood were the one's who gave lebron an elbow to the face after the play, they would've been tossed in a heartbeat. lebron is protected from up high in this league, and please don't try to argue that.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I think LeBron is a great player, but has ZERO class and is a crybaby. He's won no championships like Kobe, yet constantly is complaining to the refs, media, etc. I actually like to see Kobe play even if he is arrogant because he's a MAN and accepts hard fouls as part of the game. Even after winning a close game, LeTravel had to disrespect his opponent. Without the refs, the Cavs would not have one Game 1 and LeBron would have been on the bench with his 3rd foul in the 2nd quarter before DSS's flagrant foul ("closed fist").

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You mean like when Kobe was a "man" for getting ejected for cheap shots last year, or like when he was a "man" for commiting adultery, "allegedly" raping a girl? Or perhaps the "man" who demanded to be traded, or maybe the "man" who demanded that Phil be cut loose?

If that is your definition of a "man" I will pass.

I will take the guy who keeps getting up no matter how badly your players and team don't want him to.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

was it my imagination, or did i see lebron step to stevenson after the play was over? i could've sworn that's the way it went down, not the other way around.

or maybe i was just imagining the elbow to blatche's face after the play. yea, that must've been my imagination too.

please keep in mind, if blatche or stevenson or haywood were the one's who gave lebron an elbow to the face after the play, they would've been tossed in a heartbeat. lebron is protected from up high in this league, and please don't try to argue that.

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You are mad at LeBron for getting blasted by him, reacting, and then not falling into the bush league??

Makes sense

As I said, Blatche didnt get called for the same thing 30seconds earlier.

He won't get caught up, and you will go home..................again.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

They did all of their crying before the series.

Posted by: | April 28, 2008 3:26 PM

Example Please

Posted by: Alex | April 28, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Washington fans deserve DeShawn Stevenson. Sign him to a ten year extension.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I think all you Wizards fans need to stop whining and complaining. The whole Washington area fan base is a whiny bunch of people. I for one am a Redskins fan, but the majority of the Skins fans are the same way. I wouldn't be giving Mr Zero any big contract anytime soon. DeShawn Stevenson should watch his mouth. You wanna talk about overrated. He looks like an idiot waving his hand in front of his face with that ugly face hair. The Cavs own the Wiz and thats the reality of it all. King James will once again eliminate your whining, trash talking (but not backing it up), overrated team. Look at the Washington trend. The Skins were out in round 1, the Caps are out in round 1, and the Whining Wizards are soon to follow. Oh yeah, and the announcers and media are just as whiny as the fans. ALL HAIL KING JAMES!

Posted by: Z23 | April 28, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

There is no way in hell the Wizards are trying to hurt LeBron on purpose. I would never, EVER allow that. I would make the Wizards forfeit the series before I sent one of my golden geese out to the slaughter for at least 5 games. Not happening. Nothing malicious going on here.

Posted by: David Stern | April 28, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line is, everyone knows the Wiz are getting clowned, and it is noone's fault but their own.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:46 PM

That doesn't change the fact that Lebron's lost himself a lot of credibility in the way he's handled this situation. You would NEVER see guys like Shaq, Garnett, Billups, Duncan, act this way. Lebron has showed his personality, and it's not a very admirable one. You made the comparison yourself, very Barry Bonds like. Phenomenal talent, but far from a class act.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

wood you and jay-z and jebron and anonymous need to take your scum existence and jump in front traffic on I-90

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Example Please

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Let's see

1. LeBron is overrated
2. Everyone wants Cleveland
3. We are going to hard foul him
4. they can't beat us 3 years in a row

Meanwhile, the little old Cavs kept their yaps shut, even though they had every opportunity to talk back.

Some here would have preferred that, because then their team wouldnt look like such fools down 3-1 in the series.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

You are mad at LeBron for getting blasted by him, reacting, and then not falling into the bush league??

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 3:57 PM

Obviously, you don't understand. Reacting, especially in that way, is bush-league. That's the end of it.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

owned

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Lebron gave a worse cheap shot to Blatche with his elbow. Is that more manly because he didn't get ejected? If that's your definition of "logic" your "analysis" is no longer welcome here.

Right Lebron is the ONLY player in the NBA who gets up after a cheap shot. LMAO!!! No, but he is the only one who cries about it in the third person an hour later.

Also way to bring up something that Kobe was completely exonerated for. That's pretty manly of you. I'm sure Lebron has never cheated on his wife - oh wait, he's not even married to his baby's mama. But he's quite the man right?

At least Kobe isn't an HGH-head like Lebron.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Wizard lose = Cheat, because there is no way the Wizards can lose

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

how is that an example of crying wood?? jebron is scum

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Example Please

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Let's see

1. LeBron is overrated
2. Everyone wants Cleveland
3. We are going to hard foul him
4. they can't beat us 3 years in a row

Meanwhile, the little old Cavs kept their yaps shut, even though they had every opportunity to talk back.

Some here would have preferred that, because then their team wouldnt look like such fools down 3-1 in the series.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:01 PM

Hey Genius, I said whining not trash talking.

Oh and not talking back, what about the Jay Z - Soulja boy comment. Yeah, way to put out the flames the mister class act Lebron James.

Posted by: Alex | April 28, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

That doesn't change the fact that Lebron's lost himself a lot of credibility in the way he's handled this situation. You would NEVER see guys like Shaq, Garnett, Billups, Duncan, act this way. Lebron has showed his personality, and it's not a very admirable one. You made the comparison yourself, very Barry Bonds like. Phenomenal talent, but far from a class act.

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That doesnt change the fact that ONLY Wiz fans have ridiculous opinions like this, because they have hated him for 2 years now.

Everyone else in the sports world sees what is going on. The Wiz look like thuggish, cheap shotting fools. And the Cavs refused to get caught up.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Link to one credible sports journalist (e.g. not from Cleveland or Akron or whatever crap you guys call cities) who agrees with anything you said.

We'll wait since you clearly have nothing better to do.

Posted by: Wood OWNED | April 28, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE jump in front of traffic

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey Oh Hai, West's 3 isn't even in our top 10 playoff moments against the Wiz. Because you know, we've had an awful lot of them lately.

Washington:

Worst NBA fanbase
Worst NBA Writers
Worst players on a "supposed" big time team

Maybe someday you guys will know the joy of May basketball.

Posted by: Ivan Carter is hands down the worstr NBA writer in the league | April 28, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, you don't understand. Reacting, especially in that way, is bush-league. That's the end of it.

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It is bush league to get angry when someone you KNOW has it is for you cheap-shots you?

Yeah, I am sure noone would have taken offense in the same scenario, you are really reaching.

He realized his error before doing anything stupid.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha, not quite Cleveland guy. Nice posturing though.

Posted by: Ivan Carter rules | April 28, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Link to one credible sports journalist (e.g. not from Cleveland or Akron or whatever crap you guys call cities) who agrees with anything you said.

We'll wait since you clearly have nothing better to do.


Agrees with what? I have said a few things.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

All this talk is so funny to me. All i hear are excuses on why the wiz lost. Not one comment about how the cavs are a better team they may not have better individual players than the wiz, but they are just a better all around team. All you guys are complaining about Lebron travels Lebron gets all the calls blah blah blah. Hell Michael Jordan traveled half the time and got all the calls. He owned us for years, learn it and except it. I didn't even know the wiz and their fans hated us so bad before this series we were overlooking you and thinking of Boston like we should cause you guys just got owned again. I know it's hard hell all of cleveland still hates John Elway and always will for him beating our ass, but at least i respect Elway and Jordan. They owned us and they were better it's as simple as that. Learn it and except it.

Posted by: it's good to be alive | April 28, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

No you've pretty much just said the same thing over and over.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

wood rush hour starts in an hour. better get a move on.

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Also way to bring up something that Kobe was completely exonerated for. That's pretty manly of you. I'm sure Lebron has never cheated on his wife - oh wait, he's not even married to his baby's mama. But he's quite the man right?

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Is he married?

And BTW Kobe did his cheap shot simply because he was mad that he was broke and they were losing, not after getting hit in the face the previous possession.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Everyone else in the sports world sees what is going on. The Wiz look like thuggish, cheap shotting fools. And the Cavs refused to get caught up.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:05 PM

Sorry, but only Lebron, the Cavs, and their fans consider the Wiz as "cheap shotting fools".

Every other analyst I've seen has said that the Wizards are playing hard-nosed, tough-fouling, playoff basketball. In fact, their all essentially calling the Cavs soft, saying this was nothing compared to the old days. Even some Cavs players have admitted as much.

And if by "refused to get caught up", you mean cheap shot elbows after the play, starting skirmishes after the play (Lebron on Haywood in game 1), doing mock gestures on the court (Lebron AND Damon Jones), and giving out the same hard fouls the Wizards are giving out, then yes, I agree with you.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

it's good to be alive, please quote one post in this entire comments section which contains an "excuse why the wiz lost" other than the Wizards' players own ineptitude.

What is with you illiterate Cleveland people coming here and posting nonsense?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Just reading all this stuff i guess that not all DC people are ignorant. just prescrunk.......you are a real azz

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Wizards fans, just like their team, need to make excuses for EVERYTHING! LBJ owns the Wiz and always will. STOP WHINING! WASHINGTON SUCKS! The End.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

All this talk is so funny to me. All i hear are excuses on why the wiz lost. Not one comment about how the cavs are a better team they may not have better individual players than the wiz, but they are just a better all around team. All you guys are complaining about Lebron travels Lebron gets all the calls blah blah blah. Hell Michael Jordan traveled half the time and got all the calls. He owned us for years, learn it and except it. I didn't even know the wiz and their fans hated us so bad before this series we were overlooking you and thinking of Boston like we should cause you guys just got owned again. I know it's hard hell all of cleveland still hates John Elway and always will for him beating our ass, but at least i respect Elway and Jordan. They owned us and they were better it's as simple as that. Learn it and except it.

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Meh, it is their go-to. At least before this year they werent COMPLETE thugs.

As an above poster said it will never be the Wiz fault for losing.

I suspect the Cavs could beat then for the next 5 years in a row, and the Wiz would still be "more talented", and "they can't beat us 8 years in a row"

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

hey its good to be alive--

you are scum. wood is a bama. jebron is an idiot. cleveland is the worst city EVER. its not even over yet and if the cavs do get past us you are going to get OWNED by the celtics in 4

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

thats it prescrunk,

Since I cant beat you up my big brother will....whaaaaaa whaaaaaaaaa

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Cleveland fans wont stop whining about how Wizards fans wont stop whining.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Just so you know, Boston doesnt like you either

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

For all you Cleveland fans, if you'd watched the Wiz all these years you'd be amused at people calling them "thugs". Anyone who's followed this team knows that it's one of the softest teams in the NBA and, aside from Deshawn running his mouth and Brendan crying about his playing time (and throwing punches at his fellow Wiz center), it's genuinely a group of nice guys. Even Gil, for all his public silliness, seems like a nice guy.

They're definitely not thugs and they're definitely not out to hurt Lebron. Lebron and Mike Brown are trying to work the media and the officials just like MJ and Phil did. I'm not going to get angry at Lebron about that, and it's too bad so many Wiz fans are bashing a genuinely great player and a pretty impressive young man of 23. But you Cleveland folks shouldn't buy their spin, just as you should just cop to the fact that Lebron does get special treatment by the refs. You of all people should be able to see this, considering you were at the losing end of a lot of official deference to Michael Jordan.

Having said all that, I do think Deshawn was out to clock Lebron. Yeah he used his open hand and got some ball, but if you look at the still shots he's looking right at Lebron's head. You generally look at what you're aiming for.

Posted by: Prazak | April 28, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

hey anonoymous what was your record vs the Celtics this year?

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, we will miss you guys after Wednesday. Take care, Bi...better have my money

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

thats what I thought. OWNED scum

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Cleveland has a much, MUCH better chance of beating Boston in the next round, as many basketball analysts have also said. I would love, for two reasons, to see the whining wizards make it to round 2. 1) BOSTON WOULD ABSOLUTELY HUMILIATE THE WIZARDS and 2) because Mike Brown would be fired. and he sucks. which makes the Cavs beating the Wiz like a red headed step-child even better. Back to reality. The cavs will win and we look forward to another easy first round next year (if the wiz even make it that is)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

And Wood, it is pathetic that you Cleveland fans are logging onto a Wizards fansite just to talk trash. Don't you have anything better to do?

Posted by: Prazak | April 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but only Lebron, the Cavs, and their fans consider the Wiz as "cheap shotting fools".

Every other analyst I've seen has said that the Wizards are playing hard-nosed, tough-fouling, playoff basketball. In fact, their all essentially calling the Cavs soft, saying this was nothing compared to the old days. Even some Cavs players have admitted as much.

And if by "refused to get caught up", you mean cheap shot elbows after the play, starting skirmishes after the play (Lebron on Haywood in game 1), doing mock gestures on the court (Lebron AND Damon Jones), and giving out the same hard fouls the Wizards are giving out, then yes, I agree with you.

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1. This is not "the old days" you didnt get that memo?
2. Barkley, ATH guys, PTI guys (even Wilbon the Washinton hack), first take announcers, have all commented on the puzzling actions of the Wiz before and during this series.
3. You won't fing anything like Haywood's foul on any tapes from the Cavs, or fouls with malicious intent like Stevensons shot on LeBron. What you will find is people not letting idiots stand over someone with their crotch in their face, you will also find people mocking the idiocy of Stevenson, which is a far cry from hitting a defenseless plar while he is full-speed in the air.

You and your fellow Wiz apologists are actually entertaining though, I'll give you that.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

prescrunk I dont answer fools but it doesnt matter what the record was obviously. Look it up your damn self, you are on the computer. It may surprise you

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is definitely overrated. I've always thought, the Wizards need an enforcer, with the caliber of Oakley or Mahorn, to be able to compete. But I guess it won't work also because Lebron is well protected by the NBA and the referees. He is a valuable commodity to the NBA. He will always be overrated until he wins the NBA world title. He will always be a level below Kobe Bryant.

Posted by: Charles | April 28, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Just so you know, Boston doesnt like you either

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Meh, PP is a punk, but the rest of the team is OK. At least we can assume that they won't try to hurt one of the best players in the league.

Well we actually can assume that about every team but Washington.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Well if the people on first take said it than it must be true.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

A level below Kobe is 1000 levels above anyone who plays with the Wizards.....thats a funny argument....so, he is not Kobe, I know that, but he is second............ha

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is definitely overrated. I've always thought, the Wizards need an enforcer, with the caliber of Oakley or Mahorn, to be able to compete. But I guess it won't work also because Lebron is well protected by the NBA and the referees. He is a valuable commodity to the NBA. He will always be overrated until he wins the NBA world title. He will always be a level below Kobe Bryant.

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Show me a championship that Kobe has without Shaq and I will be impressed.

Maybe this year, maybe not.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

1. LeBron didn't win that game for Cleveland. Joe Smith, Sideshow Bob and Ben Wallace won it with their offensive rebounding. If the Wizards hadn't given up so many second opportunities, they would have won in a walk. I think Eddie deserves a good share of that blame for that, because he went with that small lineup for so long, instead of getting Haywood and/or Blatche back in there. Hell, I might have considered putting in McGuire--he may be a liability ball-handing and shooting-wise, but he's a beast on the glass.

2. On the replay of that hard foul by Stevenson, you can see that he's going for the ball. LeBaby is a big whiner. Notice also how he made a big show of getting up and acting like he wanted to fight, even though he subsequently claimed that it wasn't until later that his teammates told him (erroneously, if you look at the replay) that Stevenson supposedly hit him in the head with a fist. What's wrong with that picture?

3. It was painful just watching Gil struggle to elevate off just the right leg on that last-ditch three point attempt, so I can imagine how painful it must have been for him to attempt it. After the way he went out there obviously crippled and gave it his all (even on defense!) for 32 minutes, I don't see how anybody can justify criticizing the guy. I wouldnt wish two knee surgeries on LeBaby, but if he was in that situation, I seriously doubt that he would be out there risking his future, like Gil is.

Posted by: John Brisker | April 28, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Well if the people on first take said it than it must be true.

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Nah, just making a point about public perception.

I don't need any analysts to see the Wizards for what they are.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

And while you are at it Go Dallas Cowboys too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Wow Wood has been completely obliterated in this chat and yet he's still posted for like 7 hours straight. Isn't it time for you to go home from your awesome Cleveland job to your awesome Cleveland house where you can have a 6 pack and enjoy your awesome Cleveland life?

Posted by: LOL at Wood | April 28, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Or sit in Awful DC traffic

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

1. This is not "the old days" you didnt get that memo?

You and your fellow Wiz apologists are actually entertaining though, I'll give you that.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:28 PM

When have you heard me try and defend the Wizards? All I've said is that Lebron has showed that he's been no better (character-wise).

And I couldn't agree with you more on point #1. Like I said, a far cry from the likes of Jordan/Magic/Bird. At least there's still hope with Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, DWilliams, and Greg Oden.

Posted by: psps23 | April 28, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

1. LeBron didn't win that game for Cleveland. Joe Smith, Sideshow Bob and Ben Wallace won it with their offensive rebounding. If the Wizards hadn't given up so many second opportunities, they would have won in a walk. I think Eddie deserves a good share of that blame for that, because he went with that small lineup for so long, instead of getting Haywood and/or Blatche back in there. Hell, I might have considered putting in McGuire--he may be a liability ball-handing and shooting-wise, but he's a beast on the glass.

2. On the replay of that hard foul by Stevenson, you can see that he's going for the ball. LeBaby is a big whiner. Notice also how he made a big show of getting up and acting like he wanted to fight, even though he subsequently claimed that it wasn't until later that his teammates told him (erroneously, if you look at the replay) that Stevenson supposedly hit him in the head with a fist. What's wrong with that picture?

3. It was painful just watching Gil struggle to elevate off just the right leg on that last-ditch three point attempt, so I can imagine how painful it must have been for him to attempt it. After the way he went out there obviously crippled and gave it his all (even on defense!) for 32 minutes, I don't see how anybody can justify criticizing the guy. I wouldnt wish two knee surgeries on LeBaby, but if he was in that situation, I seriously doubt that he would be out there risking his future, like Gil is.

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1. So his points, 12 boards, and 7 assists didnt have a bit to do with it? Cavs won because of alot of things yesterday. LeBron, Z, West, Gibson, Z, Smith, Wallace all contributed.

2. Yeah Stevenson couldnt have had and bad intentions on that foul.

3. I agree it is painful to watch Arenas. I can't believe he is even out there with his knee like it is.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, 3 years in a row, you will be exterminated

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Wizards didn't start playing THUGBALL until the playoffs, when they realized they'd have to play the same team that sent them home twice before. Hmmm, how many times has Lebron been to the foul line this series, more than double any other player on either team. The only "phantom" calls are the ones not being made against the Washington Thugs. How many flagrent fouls in the series, and who was the only recipient of said fouls? Yeah, they're not out for anyone... Deshaun should be suspended for his CHEAP SHOT, as should've Haywood. Sorry Deshaun, you can't go after a ball with a closed fist. (And, yes, if you watch the replay, it was a forearm to the head with a closed fist.) It's obvious the Wizard's can't win on a level playing field, so they have to resort to thugball. Their only goal here is to injure Lebron for payback of being sent home 3 years in a row. Cavs will get past the Thugs, but the thugs are out to make sure the CAV's won't be able to play a second round.

Posted by: Cavs Fan | April 28, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it time for you to go home from your awesome Cleveland job to your awesome Cleveland house where you can have a 6 pack and enjoy your awesome Cleveland life?

Posted by: LOL at Wood | April 28, 2008 4:37 PM

Cut it out dude. I'm just as amazed at all the free time Wood has too, not to mention a bit perplexed by his motives and curious as to what he's getting out of it, but taking a cheap shot at the city's job market and working class roots is classless.

Posted by: jones-y | April 28, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

When have you heard me try and defend the Wizards? All I've said is that Lebron has showed that he's been no better (character-wise).

And I couldn't agree with you more on point #1. Like I said, a far cry from the likes of Jordan/Magic/Bird. At least there's still hope with Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, DWilliams, and Greg Oden.

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It doesnt matter who comes into the NBA, the crap that went on back then will NEVER be allowed or condoned again.

Saying LeBron is the same class-wise as Stevenson, Haywood, and Blatche is funny though. You get comedy points for that.

Posted by: Wood | April 28, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Damon Jones is Lebron's caddy. He keeps him around for laughs. He talks much trash only because Lebron can back him up. Sucka.

Posted by: dcwizard | April 28, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

The wiz don't play thugball. And I think that's the point. Its so completely obvious that they are fouling hard because they never have before. But again, I look at other games and see the same hard fouls. I see cleveland doing it too. As a matter of fact, I seem to recall a cheapshot (correct me if I'm wrong) by West on Mason (or was it AD?)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

last post mine

Posted by: jones-y | April 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

lebron is scum

Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

DOWN THREE GAMES TO ONE,WE GOT'EM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 28, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: prescrunk | April 28, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse


Wizards didn't start playing THUGBALL until the playoffs, when they realized they'd have to play the same team that sent them home twice before. Hmmm, how many times has Lebron been to the foul line this series, more than double any other player on either team. The only "phantom" calls are the ones not being made against the Washington Thugs. How many flagrent fouls in the series, and who was the only recipient of said fouls? Yeah, they're not out for anyone... Deshaun should be suspended for his CHEAP SHOT, as should've Haywood. Sorry Deshaun, you can't go after a ball with a closed fist. (And, yes, if you watch the replay, it was a forearm to the head with a closed fist.) It's obvious the Wizard's can't win on a level playing field, so they have to resort to thugball. Their only goal here is to injure Lebron for payback of being sent home 3 years in a row. Cavs will get past the Thugs, but the thugs are out to make sure the CAV's won't be able to play a second round.

Posted by: Cavs Fan | April 28, 2008 4:42 PM

Quit your whining cavs fan. look at the pic here, do you see a closed fist???

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/04/the_capital_disses_back.html

Surely the Stevenson foul was no worse than Sideshow Bob's in game 2.

Posted by: Johnnie Futbol | April 28, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?page=LeBron-080424

'nuff said. Only game the Washington Thugs got left, thugball. Even your own Coach admits it, why can't you...
Where was the whining CAVS the previous two years you got sent home? Where was all this BS last year, or the year before? It was only this year that the Thugs came out "gunning for lebron"... oh sorry, I was supposed to use the thug code word there, "protecting the rim."

That's ok, we'll send you home next year too...

Posted by: Cavs Fan | April 28, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

WHEN Cleveland is eliminated I hope all the Wiz fans on this site remember all the junk being talked by all these Cleveland fans. The #4 seed in the Eastern Conference, you'd think by all the talk that Cleveland has seen the second coming of christ. WHEN they are eliminated let's all go find some Cavs boards and dish out some payback.

Posted by: Wiz fan sick and tired of the Cleveland Idiots on this Board | April 28, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't care about anything LeBron says. We shouldn't have to worry about LeBron because every other player on his team is a role player. With a DIFFERENT COACH, we would have put away this low-talent team by game three and now we wouldn't be talking about Le-Anything but the second round. But today, our team's collective ego is permanently shot and we will lose this series because of EJ's Le-Bonehead.

Posted by: DC | April 28, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

No whining here, especially when up 3-1. Just pointing out the thugball play...
Only whining I hear is from Thug fans crying about going home 3 years straight.

Posted by: CAVS FAN | April 28, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

No thugball. Its all in your collective minds. Brainwashing by osmosis, you nuthuggers.

Posted by: jones-y | April 28, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

It's funny the knock on the Wizards has been they're too nice, or no D, no toughness. And now suddenly because they don't let LeBron stroll in for layup after layup they are a team full of "Thugs".

Posted by: Darnell | April 28, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

No whining here. If we lose we lose. Cleveland has been the better team for three of the four games played.

Washington basketball has been about as good as Cleveland's for the past 30-someodd years.

You got BronBron. Good for you. You better put a team around him, or else there's a ceiling on it for you.

Posted by: jones-y | April 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

hey wood, and erybody else from cleveland on this.

win a championship.

in anything. basketball, football, baseball. i mean, do something, cuz as much as it sucks being down 3-1. it must suck 100000x more never knowing what winning a real championship feels like.

Posted by: DC Sports | April 28, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Not only has Love thrown DeShawn under the train, but you should see the transcript of the Chat House with Wilbon. A question was asked about LeBron's professionalism/maturity given some of the punk things he's said and done to egg on the Wiz this series. Wilbon went totally in the tank for LeBron and piped him like he was the 2nd Coming. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Wilbon has sold DC down the river for some time now, hasn't got a real clue or connection to the local sports scene ever since he went corporate with ABC/ESPN. Guys like LeBron are his meal ticket for him to stay relevant nationally.

Posted by: Love & Wilbon | April 28, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

So,

we have a Cleveland troll. And we aren't supposed to hit it where it hurts? It's real life?

I guess Cleveland trolls should stick to safe places like Cleveland boards if they don't want to get a bit roughed up.

So, I won't. I won't make any comments about foreclosing this post like a Cleveland neighborhood...

I won't ask any questions about the kind of life a person must lead to spend this much time devoted to trolling a board for a team hundreds of miles away from your own life...

It's not necessary.

Let me just say, I take no pleasure in human suffering. I do take pleasure in whiny nut job fan boys who doth protest too much the greatness of a truly over-hyped star. That is the truth. Cleveland fans want respect? Admit LeBron is over-hyped. Overrated, I don't know. I don't rate him very high because his "act" is so intolerable. Over-hyped, Absolutely!

Do I think Cleveland trolls are capable of such stunning moments of self awareness? No. Why not? Well, 1, they still root for the Browns. In fact they asked for a second helping of Browns. A big steaming pile of Browns is exactly what they got.

And 2. They have used LeBron-o-vision to "turn" this wizards squad into the Bad Boy Detroit teams or Portland jail Blazers... That is the single most hilarious indictment of Cleveland Troll intelligence. Ever. If you seriously imagine the Wizards a "tough" "thuggish" crew of injurious hooligans then I say Badminton or Croquet is probably a sport that would better suit you.

DC's team while flawed has NEVER been mistaken for a tough playing team like Riley's Knicks... never until that is LeBron saw them. I can only imagine how "MEAN" and "SCARY" you will find Boston or Detroit?

Boo! Awww, it's ok, I didn't mean to frighten you.

Posted by: sodumb | April 28, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Can please de Wizards shut up and start playing some basketball!!!!!!

Posted by: elbeto | April 28, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

They tryin to hurt lebron! LMFAO

Posted by: Donk | April 28, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, stop crying, I said I didn't mean to frighten you.

Here come the water works.

Posted by: sodumb | April 28, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

GAME OVER

Heywood and the rest of the punks are going back home by Friday. Same old same old...and "bama" is a word so pathetically unique to the DC area that it holds as much credence as the "I can't feel my face" routine...what a joke. Jamison is the only "bama" on that whole team I would put on my squad.

Posted by: Game Over | April 28, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

DC's own Pro'Verb just knocked my headband off with a closed fist...figuratively speaking, of course.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/112292182c356e25/

Posted by: LeBron James | April 28, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys, don't hurt me! I'm a fragile superstar! Lebron James shouldn't be treated this way! Lebron James is the man!

Posted by: Lebron James | April 28, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Cleveland fans is that they are so used to losing. They never win anything, and they get excited when they start to win. That is why they cry so much about the Wizards trying to hurt LeBron. Seriously, think about it. If anyone on the Wizards decided they should take out LeBron James, think of how easy it would be. The fans (and the Queen himself) need to realize that making a 6'9 260 lb. 59% FT shooter earn his points is not that bad of a strategy. At his size, it's necessary to hit him hard. Unfortunately at the end of every game, some fool gives the Queen a microphone and let's him whine and whine and whine about how we are trying to hurt him (in the third person which says tons about his level of arrogance and sense of entitlement, not to mention the "chosen one" tattoo) and as a result the Cavs fans buy into it. It makes me vomit a little every time I hear some Cav fan claim that the Wizards are trying to hurt LeBron. Now if Damon Jones were to ever get off the bench......

Posted by: DC The Kid | April 28, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"Not only has Love thrown DeShawn under the train, but you should see the transcript of the Chat House with Wilbon. A question was asked about LeBron's professionalism/maturity given some of the punk things he's said and done to egg on the Wiz this series. Wilbon went totally in the tank for LeBron and piped him like he was the 2nd Coming. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Wilbon has sold DC down the river for some time now, hasn't got a real clue or connection to the local sports scene ever since he went corporate with ABC/ESPN. Guys like LeBron are his meal ticket for him to stay relevant nationally.

Posted by: Love & Wilbon | April 28, 2008 5:24 PM "

Wilbon has claimed no allegiance to DC or its teams though. He's Mr. Chicago, although he chooses to live and work here, and he'll be the first to tell you that, although less gently that I have.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 28, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"Quit your whining cavs fan. look at the pic here, do you see a closed fist???

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/04/the_capital_disses_back.html

Surely the Stevenson foul was no worse than Sideshow Bob's in game 2."

As I said before, it did seem like the Post reporters were fanning the flames. Of course that would be the dynamic duo of Ivan and Mike.

Both dudes have to do their jobs though, to sell papers. In private, the thinker (aka Etan Thomas) is probably telling DS to ignore Ivan.

Posted by: DC Man88 | April 28, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

GAME OVER

Heywood and the rest of the punks are going back home by Friday. Same old same old...and "bama" is a word so pathetically unique to the DC area that it holds as much credence as the "I can't feel my face" routine...what a joke. Jamison is the only "bama" on that whole team I would put on my squad

Game over is a BAMA. If Cleveland could, they would take Jamison, Gil, Butler, Blatche, Young, AD, Etan, Haywood, Wes Unseld, Muresan, Manute Bol, and Mugsy Bogues as they are right now over anyone on the Cavs team.

Posted by: DC The Kid | April 28, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

maybe not Manute Bol but yes the rest of the list is correct. :)

Thank you David Stern for creating the LeCrybaby, LeTravle, LeNBA league. I wonder if LeCrybaby was crying when he was getting all those tattoos.

What a waste of talent to have him in Cleveland.

Posted by: ericmc1998 | April 28, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

what the hell does Haywood know about playing old school basketball...he gets beat up by his teammates doesnt he?

all this rapping crap on both sides is all crap all the time - in old school they played - games close together so they didnt have the energy to talk all this crap, incorporate rappers, screw around..its sad..

but more trashing from the team that should have maximized its talent to play, not its ability to motivate others thru stupidity...

Wilbon's legit-the Wiz have done the trashin'..but every town has it homers in the media - every town - just because he is not doesnt mean he sold anyone out to LeBron..

I love the games and I love talking about the games -enough of this crap...lets talk bball...

Posted by: old and grey | April 28, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

old and grey you get the last word because you called it? No.

WE SUPPORT OUR WIZARDS, trash talken and all.

So go back to your cleveland papers and post there. Wait you only have one paper in cleveland and 3 people post there. that's right.

Posted by: old and grey 2 | April 28, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me the only thing that anyone should be discussing right now is that with all of the talking, finger pointing, etc., is the fact that Cleveland leads this series 3-1.

On a side note, I for one was embarrassed to have fans chanting overrated at LeBron. The man goes off for 34 12 and 7.

Just looks like LeBron and company are going to laugh all the way to the second round like they have the past 2 years while Washington sits at home and mopes again.

Posted by: Mark27m | April 28, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

First off, it was Mike Brown and Lebron James who started all of the talk about the Wizards physical play. Deshawn called Lebron overrated over a month ago and Gilber said that he wanted to play Cleveland. Big deal. But the whole "hack-a-Bron" was created by Brown and James. And its worked. Its amazing. Lebron is having it both ways. He's posing, flexing, trash talking, and making hard fouls. Yet he's being portrayed as the "bigger man" who's too dignified to respond. He's such a big, tough guy (as he says, "6'9, 260"), yet he's flopping, pointing at the boo-boo on his elbow, rubbing his mouth when he gets hit on the wrist. Its very tiresome for a fan of the opposing team.
Yeah, the Cavs are winning and as a Wizards fan that frustrates me. So there's not much I can do except point out that it takes 2 to tango. And to boo him and shout "overrated" when I'm at the game.

Posted by: bowiemd1 | April 28, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

one of the good things about the playoffs in the internet age is this exchange of information.

it serves as a great ego boost to my brothers and sisters in the great midwest of america to see how utterly full of excuses, false bravado, and questionable powers of observation you folks from our mighty nation's capital are.

the wiz haven't won jack and won't with this big lineup of hacks and crybabies. they are soft and lazy and no amount of flagrant 2's will change that.

cavs beat the generals again, and the real playoffs start in the second round. since lebron's 31/9/8 has silenced all talk about his game (except to delusional washington fans) why not attack his personality? besides jay-z he'd have the 2 million people of cleveland on his side because he ain't never done anything wrong up here. the only haters are the ones that he scorches on the court.

Posted by: neoclass | April 28, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

This whole situation trips me out. I'm sitting at home in Houston, Texas(I know, we have our own problems here, T-Mac/3-1 deficit also) checking out espn.com when I read that another Wizard(this time its Brendan Haywood. Hey Brendan you are a bust, shut your mouth and play ball for a change) is running their mouth. When are these players gonna learn....the trash talking is not working....the physical play is not working....maybe they need to hire that guy jeff Gilloly, that beat Nancy Kerrigan's knee with a pipe, to go after Lebron....cuz nothing is working...and all the Wizards that are running their mouths(Agent less than zero, Haywood, and Deshawn "I got jumped on draft night and have never been able to play since" Stephenson) are just coming out looking like chumps. Shut your mouths and let your play do the talking! There's a reason he is called "King James", the dude can ball!

Posted by: MDoggNic | April 28, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Thing is, the Wizards aren't playing any dirtier than the Cavaliers. It just that Mike Brown and Lebron James have done a better job of complaining. Oh and I admit, the Cavs have been winning, so they get to write the history books.

Posted by: bowiemd1 | April 28, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I'll tell you who the biggest crybabies in the league are...freaking Wizards fans. You guys are the laughing stock of the league right now. The Cavs and LB continue to work you and you continue to run your mouths.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

@CavsGirl

A tip of the hat to ye. I appreciate your post of 2:55 p.m.

Posted by: Wiz fan former Ohioan | April 28, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

BLOW THE WHISTLE

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I HEAR WE ARE ROCKING "BLOW THE WHISTLE" AT THE Q ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE WHOLE ARENA WILL BE ROCKING.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I called it! It was only a matter of time before he started referring to himself in the third person.

LJ: "They're trying to hurt Lebron James, and what hurts Lebron James hurts me personally, you know? Lebron James has extensive playoff experience, and Lebron James knows the difference between hard-fouling Lebron James and trying to hurt Lebron James. Lebron James would just add that Lebron James is a phenomenal talent; Lebron is a natural scorer and one of the best 'and-one' players in the league, and Lebron James deserves some protection."

Given that Lebron James is the next incarnation of Jesus Christ (we're all witnesses, right?), they should just allow him to make his own calls. He could be the first player/referee.

Posted by: satch | April 28, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

no way craig ehlo would call me overrated.

no way brad daugherty would flagrant 2 me.

this current red 23 is like me on 'roids.

i scorched cleveland so bad.

he has returned to avenge the loss.

witness.

Posted by: jordan's ghost | April 28, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

BUT I AM SCORCHING YOU BEYATCH

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is getting upset!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the Bullets?

Posted by: StuckontheBeltway | April 28, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Thinking back to game 4 I am still completely baffled that the Wizards and eddie specifically were not smart enough to give fouls on Ben Wallace. series should be 2-2 right now

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Never thought I would love to hear Brendan Haywood's quotes so much! The dude has been on point and hilarious this year!

As far as the LeBaby/Wiz stuff, it's ridiculous to paint LeBaby as just a victim. I have not condoned anything going on in this series that has nothing to do with basketball, but LeBaby is just as involved with his actions and comments as DS. So, if you deem DS to be classless then LeBaby is just as classless with a little bit of whine added. Plus, a whole lot more arrogant. Ok, so don't attach the word classy to LeBaby ever either.

And I hate to point this out, but the national media story begins with DS calling LeBaby "overrated". Well, if you listen to DS's side, LeBaby said very disparaging and somewhat personal remarks about DS first within earshot of Gooden (DS's best friend in the NBA). Why did the national media not bring this up? Is it a coincidence that Gooden is no longer a Cav?

Posted by: Rob P | April 28, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Think about this too:

LeBaby disparaged a 17 year old kid with his Jay-Z/Soulja Boy remark. What did Soulja Boy ever do to him? If it was off the cuff as it most certainly was, then LeBaby at some point thereafter should have said I did not mean to disparage a kid through no fault of his own.

Real classy LeBron! Real classy!

Cleveland fans are you so blind as to ignore LeBron's classlessness? He is your superstar so he can do what he pleases without criticism? He's going to leave the Cavs regardless! I'll tell ya DS has certainly received a fair amount of criticism both nationally and locally.

Posted by: Rob P | April 29, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Wiz will still win the series. If not it will be because of Leking and the nba and the refs and cleveland and their fans and the media and jay-z and the white out and EJ no wait not Ej, announcers and and, I will think of some more. It won't be because we suck cuz we are a better team than Cleveland even though we keep losing to them. We also have the better city, just ask Marion Berry!

Posted by: Wizzez4Life | April 29, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Lekicksourbuteverytime will never be as classy as DS and he makes excuses unlike Gil

Posted by: Wizzez4Life | April 29, 2008 12:46 AM | Report abuse

I think Lecrybaby whines because he wants to be like us so we will like him even though he keeps whoopin' us

Posted by: WizHead | April 29, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

It is not fair we keep losing. We are clearly the better team. Everyone is cheating us. We have a right to cry! Gil said we wanted to play the Cavs so we should have won! It just is not fair so lets attack the city of Cleveland. Our city has the largest employer in the world. Ha!

Posted by: WhizzaWiz | April 29, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Who cares if LeGreat is one of the greatest players ever? We Wiz fans have declared him classless and whiney, so there!

Posted by: PizzonaWiz | April 29, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to hurt LeBron James.

Posted by: Chinatown | April 28, 2008 1:55 PM

me too.

Posted by: Adam | April 28, 2008 2:03 PM

Bring that talk to the dirty streets of Cleveland You punk!

Posted by: Pissinonthewizards | April 29, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

You don't think every city in the United States have been hit hard economically? Are you nuts? Are you smoking something? When everyone watches parts of DC, they see the nice side...the mall, downtown DC, etc. But take a step into Southeast DC, PG. Tell me they are living excellent. I know because my family worked hard to get out of that area. So please when you start talking about "Cleveland is s city that has been hit particularly hard economically", walk out to the ghetto areas around DC. It has one of the highest areas of STD, crime and because of the nice areas, has a high living cost. It forces families to move from that area.

And about Lebron worshiping...please get off his jock. You should get over yourself. Do you think Yankee fans don't hate Red Sox players, Redskins fans hate Cowboys players...

If the Wizards wanna talk, let them talk. If they lose the next game, then Lebron will force them to shut their mouths. Until then, they can talk all they want. They will have to do what it takes to back it up. It doesn't stop them from playing their games. I know whenever I talked trash to someone or they talked trash to me, it didn't take us out of our games. This team had a brash of injuries through the whole season which toughen them up. We lost Gilbert for pretty much the entire season and Caron for part of the season. If this team didn't have a backbone, they would not even be in the playoffs.

And btw Cavsgirl, Lebron started all this. He is the one that started talking crap about the Wiz and making PERSONAL comments about Deshawn. Not even to his face, behind his back. That is a little girls move...

Posted by: Terpin It | April 29, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

as long as arenas is with this team, they are certain losers. sad but true. he's a very good but not great player who if signed to a max contract will doom wiz to still more mediocrity. it's a shame that coach jordan played him in the fourth game and so wasted an entire season.

Posted by: rod | April 29, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Yea Lebron started it and made us cry! It just aint fair.

Posted by: WizBabies | April 29, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Washington talks like monsters and plays like babies. LeBron talks like baby plays like monster. Jim Rome is on to something. Scoreboard rules! 3-1 Cavs...

Posted by: Joe Analyst | April 29, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Yea Deshawn said Lebron started it and we believe him because he has been an upstanding citizen.

Posted by: DStheMAN | April 29, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

It is not fair Gil is hurt!

Posted by: LovesExcuses | April 29, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

>>>I'll tell you who the biggest crybabies in the league are...freaking Wizards fans. You guys are the laughing stock of the league right now. The Cavs and LB continue to work you and you continue to run your mouths.

Posted by: | April 28, 2008 8:22 PM


Blow the whistle. Bomb

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Yea because Lebron has denied what Deshawn said...

Posted by: Terpin It | April 29, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Talkin bout blowin the whistle... hear the lebron diss

Posted by: Terpin It | April 29, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Love Cleveland trolls talking about class etc in a Wizards blog. You come in here and spam and talk trash etc etc, and pretend you and your team/LeBaby are all about class and have done no wrong. It's so laughable!

Not a single one of you showed up after game 3 in these threads either! Hmmm....

Get a life and hang out in the Akron Beacon Journal or whatever the hell you have for media there!

Posted by: Rob P | April 29, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm surprised Ivan is STILL avoiding the real story of this series. There's not even a point to staying in their good graces, unless you know something we don't. That locker room will look a whole lot different next year. Is there more to be gained for a beat reporter by acting like the team's publicist than there is in telling the truth? I don't get it, Ivan's clearly a smart guy and i refuse to believe he's been totally brainwashed by these guys. So what's the angle here? I'd love to know the real reason he's writing this stuff. He can't be buying it.

Posted by: zach | April 29, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Bulls vs Knicks old school....difference is Knicks went out to play hard and WIN THE SERIES and never said a bad word about Michael Jordan to the press.....but anyway alot of their hard fouls or defense was focused on Michael........okay LOOK HOW FAR THAT GOT THEM........The only thing i think people who are not Wizards fans are seeing is that the more you make fun off or anger James or tell him he's not as good......it will only give him more motivation to play better...and continually beat the wizards......will people not learn....

Lebron is good, and he is also quite strong so i guess you do have to foul him hard....jordan was 6'6" a buck 95 , kobe is 6'7" 205....both great all round scorers but dont take the same beating because they cant drive and power their way through every possession....unfortunately James can....and does other than when he might get tired and jack up a three.....

All the wizards need to do is stop comlaining or trying to focus all their energies on James and focus on the whole team (errr Delonte)....

And also...Haywood???....c'mon Haywood....the Bad Boys could've talked junk...Oakley Ewing Starks the same because they actually did something or could errr play basketball.....AT least he's tall so he looks like a basketball player.....

and respect to the Wiz for backing up Deshawn....but you noticed how Gil, Antawn or Jamison never got into a verbal slugging match after a '2 point win' in the regular season.....

just learn for next year...Play ball and....play ball

Posted by: UK | April 29, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line: Cavs up 3-1. If Cleveland is such a bunch of losers, what does that make Washington? The Cavs have one solid player, no set offensive plays, a lousy coach and a weak defense and they're up 3-1 and back home for game 5. The most damage the Wizards ever did to the Cavs was letting us get Larry Hughes.

Posted by: AtleastBulletsWasACoolName | April 29, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RoseColoredGlasses | April 29, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

DCMan88 / old and grey,

I know Wilbon is a Chicago homer, and I did not mean to try to overstate that he should have an allegiance to DC. My point was how much he is in the tank for LeBron. Last I checked LeBron was not from Chicago, and for a DC sportswriter and national sports commentator to act like LeBron walks on water is just silly and ridiculous. Where is the critical analysis that can properly break down pros and cons of a player - even a superstar? Wilbon & Love & the refs are ready to lay their coats in the mud so that the "King" doesn't soil his L2s - this NBA superstar worship is just played out and frustrating. I give kudos to Mike Wise b/c he is at least willing to objectively point out flaws and shortcomings for everyone involved, regardless of team affiliation or superstar status. Instead, Wilbon turned himself into a walking/talking Nike "Witness" commercial.

Posted by: Love & Wilbon | April 29, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Love and Wilbon...point well taken...just wish the excitement and talk was about the games...there have been 2 pretty good ones we had the privilege of seeing...

"shut and play" was one of my favorite sayings, but nobody in this league does that anymore..heck in the regular season they dont even play most nights until Q4.

the game wednesday at 6 p.m. - the Wiz gotta rebound and must be able to reverse the ball, keep it swinging, look inside - and keep the Cavs d trying to compensate for it. I am befuddled watching Mason come in and score, play some D and then get parked on the bench.

for the Cavs - need step up shooters like in game #4 and the same rebounding effort every play throuhgout the game...and Z needs to show up stronger than his game 4 effort...I think the blow out games are over and whatever is left will be grind it out, tough half court bball..now thats old school eastern conference playoffs..and I think its entertaining as heck...

Posted by: old and grey | April 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

LeBron is not "crying" about the Wizards trying to hurt him...

He's laughing at the fact that they CAN'T hurt him.

I think Haywood and some other people are misunderstanding the point LeBron is trying to make...he's merely ENTERTAINED by it.Give a man a match, and you'll have kept him warm for a few seconds. Set a man on fire, and you'll have kept him warm for the rest of his life.
I really can't understand where BRENDA Haywood is coming from.. To me, SHE is the one doing the crying and complaining, along with DeShawna Stevenson..
To me Brenda Haywood = Homer Simpson. at least Homer is funny...Maybe Brenda Haywood should take her own advice, and just shut the **** up!!!! what are these peoples problem?! I mean honestly, its like an idiot who stuck his hand in a gators mouth and said ow! then he sticks it in again and says OW! now, he thinks long and hard about what he's doin, and then promptly sticks his hand in the gators mouth again. Honestly, teams should realize that you dont antagonize the better team. Oh wait, these Morons where under the impression that THEY are the better team. Go figure.Washington is a big JOKE & the CAVS will take a "WIZ" on them come Wednesday @ 6pm PERIOD! I'm outta here, PEACE lames...

Posted by: CAVS NATION 08 BABY!! | April 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Ivan Carter. Wow. What a writer. Do you write these nuggets at recess or during Social Studies? I just can't believe you don't even try to be a little bit honest. You must be a stringer, there is no way you could possibly draw a paycheck. I've never seen such homerism in sport writer 'blogs'. They all have some, but this is the worst.

Posted by: Dunbar | April 29, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS ALL A BUNCH OF NONSENSE...I'M A CAVS FAN, DIDN'T LIKE SOME STUFF I SAW (FLAGRANT FOULS)BY BOTH TEAMS, BUT REALITY IS, WE ARE JUST THE FANS. THE THE PLAYERS PLAY. EVERYONE IS GETTING CAUGHT UP IN THE HYPE OF THIS SERIES. TALK IS TALK...BUT WHEN IT'S TAKEN FURTHER, THEN THERE'S CONCERN IN THE LEAGUE.

LETS WATCH THE GAME AND ROOT FOR OUR TEAM TO WIN, AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING DOWN THE OTHER TEAM.

JORDAN WAS AMAZING, AND EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T PLAY FOR MY HOME TEAM, I WAS A FAN BECAUSE OF HIS GAME. LETS GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. YOU MAY NOT LIKE HIM (LBJ), BUT AT LEAST RESPECT HIS SKILLS. BTW, WASHINGTON IS A GREAT CITY, AS WELL AS CLEVELAND. DON'T KNOCK A CITY FOR THE WAY PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PLAYERS HANDLE THINGS. JUST ROOT FOR YOUR HOME TEAM, WITHOUT BEING A HATER. PEACE.

Posted by: SWITZERLAND | April 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

First of all, I think Wiz players talk too much. They need to let their plays speak for them. Truth is, this Wiz team cannot be physically imposing even if they want to. They only talk about "hard fouls," but they don't deliver them, not the way Piston Bad Boys or Knicks used to do. (Well, maybe rules have changed that you cannot do that anymore.)

OTOH, LeBron is quite theatrical. Once on Sunday, when he was fouled he fell to ground like someone had pushed him. The reply showed that there was no reason for him to fall on the ground. Even the commentator said, that was just a "regular foul," and not a "hard foul." I can see that Cavs is trying to milk this "hard fouls" strategy the Wizs have advertised to the whole world; but come on, isn't all these acting and lying (e.g., Stevenson's so-called "closed fist") a little bit too far?

Posted by: Sagaliba | April 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I agree. I'm from Washington and this is all stupid. Lets play some ball.

Posted by: bsmith | April 29, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Switzerland is right. Let the players play the game. Go Wizards.

Posted by: jeff | April 29, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Washington native here. The Wizards don't have the ability to beat the Cavs. Dumb move, callin out that you wanted to play the Cavs in the first round...what, were you hoping for more time off before next season? When we're out of the playoffs, maybe take that time to reflect on how to better present and represent our city. Let's get some real players here in the next draft.

Posted by: wizzashizza | April 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody have the video of Heywood mocking Lebron. I saw it on Comcast last night and it was one of the funnier things I've seen in a while and would love to send it to coworkers/friends.

Posted by: Mike R | April 29, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Stevenson is a flopper trying to use James to get his fame. Tell your convict, I mean Stevenson to quit cherry picking for dunks and try to play defense. He is the biggest flopper I've seen next to Arena's. If he would quit making bad attempts at 3 pointers and shut his dumb@#$$ mouth this might be a different series. See Ya next year LOSERS

Posted by: king james rules | April 29, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Send your friend the video, dont forget the audio too, the funniest part was the Washington media all laughing in unison sucking his wood, now Blow the whistle.

Posted by: Blow the whistle | April 29, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Any competitor in the world would have called the Cavs out if they played for the Wizards. Of course you want to play the team that has ended your previous two seasons to extract revenge. Further, any competitor in the world doesn't need to hear any trash talk to get hyped for the playoffs. IT'S THE PLAYOFFS. Do or die, win or go home, you don't need any more motivation than that.

As far as I can tell, the Wizards have represented DC to the fullest so far. The only thing I am embarrassed about is the DJ at Love playing a Wiz diss track and allowing Damon Jones to grab a mike?!? That DJ is a bama, and shouldn't be allowed back in the club.

Posted by: DC The Kid | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

They wouldnt have called them out publically, thats the big difference. Jamison and Butler arent saying anything. When you call a team out publically that add fuel to the fire, playoffs or not. Now, blow the whistle....

Posted by: Anonymous | April 29, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Dang,

The Cavs did have a "homecoming dance" in your crib, man, I would be pissed about that too, especially since they were already up 2 to 1. And then won the game....Oh well, now...blow the whistle.

Posted by: Blow the whistle | April 29, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Blow this! Every year in the playoffs, the Cavs need some kind of gimmick catch phrase "Witness" "Blow the Whistle" "Swept in the finals" etc... Why can't they do without them? It's because their team is no plain and boring (that's right even with the "King") that someone has to keep it interesting. Unfortunately for Jay-Z, he didn't take quite enough time on his diss, and it sounds terrible. Listen to the rebuttal by Pro'Verb and tell me this - how did an unknown rapper from DC get the best of Hov.

Trust me Jay, your "son" doesn't need any one else telling the refs to blow the whistle. He's got that one covered. Please come out with a new song called "I sunk DefJam" or "My son needs a tissue for his boo boo"

Posted by: DC The Kid | April 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I like how when someone is fouled hard and says they dont like the unnecessary roughness they are cry babies.....hmmmn maybe if Bron rises up after a hard foul and pops Stevenson in the mouth wonder what ppl would say...i mean lets be honest if anyone on this forum was playing ball in the 'park' and someone did that it wouldnt end with a brush off or a complaint.......

but i respect any superstar that doesnt put his value to his team in jeopardy by retaliating to stupid fouls.....e.g look at the Kidd foul...yu could tell he was going for the ball then it all went wrong.....Washington fouls are just senseless shoves and thumps...

Like someone said, if Lebron is overrated and a crybaby, then isnt a shame that an overrated crybaby has a team with 3 All Stars in a 3-1 hole....thats just something to mull over...I wld love to see the Wiz give the Cavs fits but all they do is talk and talk and taunt and well....lose

Good luck in game 5

Posted by: UK | April 29, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

waaa waaa all I hear is Wizards fans crying. the playoffs are fixed, Lebron cheats, etc. Give me a break. Your team just can't beat the Cavs. 3rd playoff series in a row, 3-11 against the Cavs. After a while you have to throw out the conspiracy theories, the excuses, and realize that they just aren't who you thought they were. As far as the trash talking/cheap fouls: 1) Deshawn Stevenson starts it by calling LBJ overrated. Lebron responds with the jay-z comparison. 2) Agent Zero calls out the cavs, saying the whole teams wants them, they don't think they can lose 3 times in a row (be careful what you wish for), 3) Wizards idiotically tell everyone they are going to foul, and foul hard. 4) Blatche and Lebron foul for foul. 5) Haywoods incredibly stupid flagrant. 6) AV's flagrant. 7) Deshawn's throat slashing gesture (seriously don't you have to be good to talk trash?) 8) DeShawn's flagrant. 9) Lebron saying they are trying to hurt him/series over. 10) Brenda Haywood (you know the guy who pulled another guys hair) calling lebron soft. Looks to me like most of the trash talking is coming from the team who can't back it up.

Posted by: Jay-z | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

waaa waaa all I hear is Wizards fans crying. the playoffs are fixed, Lebron cheats, etc. Give me a break. Your team just can't beat the Cavs. 3rd playoff series in a row, 3-11 against the Cavs. After a while you have to throw out the conspiracy theories, the excuses, and realize that they just aren't who you thought they were. As far as the trash talking/cheap fouls: 1) Deshawn Stevenson starts it by calling LBJ overrated. Lebron responds with the jay-z comparison. 2) Agent Zero calls out the cavs, saying the whole teams wants them, they don't think they can lose 3 times in a row (be careful what you wish for), 3) Wizards idiotically tell everyone they are going to foul, and foul hard. 4) Blatche and Lebron foul for foul. 5) Haywoods incredibly stupid flagrant. 6) AV's flagrant. 7) Deshawn's throat slashing gesture (seriously don't you have to be good to talk trash?) 8) DeShawn's flagrant. 9) Lebron saying they are trying to hurt him/series over. 10) Brenda Haywood (you know the guy who pulled another guys hair) calling lebron soft. Looks to me like most of the trash talking is coming from the team who can't back it up.

Posted by: Jay-z | April 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

DC the Kid,

Waaa, Waaaa

Why do the Cavs have to have a slogan? Whatever, that material for nothing. Blog Arenas and tell them to win a playoff series. Then change your tampon. Our boring team will be blowing you away AGAIN. And Jay Z already told you to stop coming at him with these damn no names, DeShawn, Pro'Verb. Who the hell is that? If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound? No. Get real. and um...Blow the Whistle

Posted by: Blow the whistle | April 29, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Wiz fans are biased. It's understandable. LeBron is getting fouled hard and often, no doubt about it. The problem is.....he's working the thug Wizards so hard, they are resorting to making fun of him personally. Make fun of him all you want, after he drops 35-40 points on your lame asses in game 5, we will see who has the last laugh. MUHAHAHAHHAMUHAHAHHAHAAMUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Huml | April 30, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey Wiz fans!!!!!!!

YOU GOT ROCKED!!!!

CRY MORE =)

Posted by: Huml | April 30, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I am always amazed by the Cleveland trolls that come in here talking trash. Let's do a quick comparison: Washington, D.C. is the nation's capital; Cleveland is referred to as the "Mistake by the Lake", a city that was the first to default on its loans since the Great Depression, and at one point so riddled with industrial waste issues that the Cuyahoga River literally caught on fire. The Washington Redskins won an incredible 3 Super Bowls under coach Joe Gibbs; the Cleveland Browns have never won a Super Bowl and are haunted by the memories of some of the greatest collapses in NFL history (so great, in fact, that they are commonly referenced by a single word, as in "The Drive" or "The Fumble", both of which came at the hands of the Denver Broncos). The Washington Wizards won the NBA championship in 1978, and have won 7 division titles and 4 conference titles; the Cleveland Cavaliers have won no championships and only 1 conference title (last year). WIth Ernie Grunfeld, the Wizards have a savvy GM who can make smart trades and key acquisitions; LeBron James fell into Cleveland's lap in 2003 and will bolt to New York in 2010, bringing the franchise back to square one. Cleveland's fans are notorious for lacking class, with the infamous "10 Cent Beer Night" topping the list. The Browns-Jaguars game in 2001 where the game was called was another fantastic showing by the Cleveland fans.

I hope this puts the ridiculous trash talking by Cavaliers fans into perspective.

Also, for those that also worship at the altar of Jay-Z, this video will be life-altering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bED9wMqQ1i8

Posted by: MD to DC | May 1, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

lebron is the best

Posted by: andre | May 6, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

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